de legibus': cicero as scipio and the problem of the excluded philosophic statesman
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De Legibus: Cicero as Scipio and the Problem of the Excluded Philosophic Statesman
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De Legibus: Cicero as Scipio and the Problem of the Excluded Philosophic Statesman
Interpretations of Cicero‘s de Legibus have frequently focused on Cicero the character‘s
initial recusatio of a variety of genres in which he might potentially write (Benardete 1987,
Nicolai 2000, Dolganov 2008). Since Cicero ultimately settles on the topic of legislation for the
state described in de Republica (Leg. 1.20), a decidedly political topic with philosophic
overtones, some scholars [such as Rudd & Wiedemann (1987) and Dolganov (2008)] have
concluded that the purpose of his self-representation in this dialogue is to bolster his own
auctoritas as a statesman whose views on law are backed by philosophic expertise, all in an
attempt to regain his former political prominence.
There is no doubt that Cicero was eager to regain his former status in the Roman state, as
is clear from several letters dating to the late 50s and early 40s.1 However, the question of
Cicero‘s immediate political purposes in composing de Legibus is complicated by the fact that
we really don‘t know exactly when he wrote it— while scholarly consensus has settled on the
late 50s, plausible arguments have been advanced for the 40s as well. But I would suggest that
the exact date of the work‘s composition is not as important for understanding Cicero‘s purposes
as the dramatic date of this imaginary conversation between Marcus, Atticus, and Quintus. This
conversation is clearly envisioned as taking place sometime in the late 50s, after the death of
Clodius and before the outbreak of the civil war, at a time when Cicero was decidedly not
influential in practical affairs.
In my view, it is this dramatic setting which is of primary importance. Rather than
looking at de Legibus as a political tract couched in the dialogue form as a mere convenience, we
need to consider this dialogue precisely as a dramatic dialogue written in the Platonic tradition,
1 See for example Fam. 9.2.5, a passage I have provided in an Appendix to the handout.
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containing such features as an imagined historical setting, interlocutors with specific character
traits, as well as dramatic action internal to the dialogue itself. Upon examining de Legibus in
this way, I am obliged to deny the claim that Cicero thought writing this dialogue could have the
effect of restoring him to his former prominence. In my view, Cicero means to show the reader
of de Legibus exactly the opposite, that his political rehabilitation is extremely unlikely. I will
arrive at this conclusion first, by comparing Cicero‘s image of himself in de Legibus to his
portrait of Scipio Aemilianus in de Republica, and secondly, by comparing the historical
circumstances prevailing at the time of the dramatic date of each dialogue.
The literary character of de Legibus cannot be underestimated. The dialogue‘s reference
to Cicero‘s earlier work de Republica opens the way to the depiction of Marcus in de Legibus as
a philosophically educated and experienced statesman. This identity is established through the
implicit identification of Marcus with Scipio, an identification which is effected first of all
through the conflation of Marcus the writer of de Republica with Scipio the chief speaker in de
Republica. In Book 1 of the Laws, Atticus tells Marcus, as we see in HANDOUT 1:
[Atticus]: Since you have written about the best form of the state, it seems to follow that
you yourself should write about laws. For I see that Plato of yours did this. . .2 (Leg.
1.15)
Quoniam scriptum est a te de optimo reipublicae statu, consequens esse videtur ut scribas
tu idem de legibus. Sic enim fecisse video Platonem illum tuum. . .3
But shortly after Atticus has referred in this way to Marcus‘ authorship of de Republica, Marcus
himself credits Scipio with the authorship of de Republica, for which please see HANDOUT 2:
2 Translations from the Latin in this paper are my own.
3 Quotations from Cicero’s Rep. and Leg. in this paper are taken from Powell’s 2006 OCT edition.
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[Marcus]: Therefore we must keep to and preserve the form of the state which Scipio
taught was best in those six books, and we must accommodate all the laws to that regime,
and must also plant moral habits. . . (Leg. 1.20)
Quoniam igitur eius reipublicae, quam optimam esse docuit in illis sex libris Scipio,
tenendus est nobis et servandus status, omnesque leges accommodandae ad illud civitatis
genus, serendi etiam mores. . .
In the first passage, Cicero has Atticus view Marcus as the author of de Republica, and in writing
about laws, Marcus is envisioned as following in the footsteps of Plato, who also wrote a
Republic and Laws. But in the second passage, Marcus refers to Scipio as the one who ―taught
which [form of the state] was best in those six books,‖ and thereby positions himself not so much
as the author of a book on laws following his own book on the republic but rather as a successor
to Scipio, occupying in the current dialogue the place held by Scipio in the previous one.4
By portraying Marcus as taking the place of Scipio in the current dialogue, Cicero
implicitly invites us to examine Scipio in de Republica to see if Marcus exhibits any similar
qualities in de Legibus. Scipio and Marcus, in fact, are both depicted as philosophically inclined
statesman, senior statesmen, with great experience in political affairs. To speak first of Scipio‘s
philosophic inclinations, these are evident in the first place in his willingness to converse on the
report given in the senate of the appearance of two suns in the sky (Rep. 1.15). Tubero is the one
to raise the question, and Scipio, after a brief digression on Socrates, brings it up again upon the
arrival of Philus, for which please see HANDOUT 3: ―For you are accustomed to search out
eagerly the sort of matters which Tubero began to ask about a little earlier... [So] I am eager to
4 For a discussion of the extent to which Marcus’ laws in the current work are in fact accommodated to the regime
proposed by Scipio, see Powell 2001. The conflation of Marcus with Scipio also may imply that Scipio is truly a mouthpiece for Cicero the writer, confirming what scholars have often suspected.
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hear from you, Philus, what you think about those two suns.‖ (Rep. 1.17).5 Scipio‘s manner of
speaking reveals the mind of a man invested with the spirit of philosophic questioning and one
eager for philosophic conversation.
He also shows his philosophic bent through the ability to see beyond the confines of
politics to nature as a whole. For example, he gives voice to the concept of a distinction between
political and natural law, as we see in HANDOUT 4: ―How fortunate is that man to be
considered who alone is able to lay claim to all things as his own, not by the law of Roman
citizens, but by the law of the wise, and not by any civil tie, but by the common law of nature!‖
(Rep. 1.27). (Quam est hic fortunatus putandus, cui soli vere liceat omnia non Quiritium sed
sapentium iure pro suis vindicare, nec civili nexo sed communi lege naturae.) Scipio states in
effect that happiness belongs to the man who can claim the whole world as his own property
through philosophy and the law of nature, universal concepts showing a philosophic awareness
that surpasses the limitations of local politics.6 These words are themselves part of an
enthusiastic though relatively brief encomium of philosophy delivered by Scipio, an encomium
which will find its parallel in Marcus‘ own encomium of philosophy that brings the first book of
de Legibus to its stately conclusion (1.58-63).
But let us see how Cicero develops the character of Marcus along lines similar to Scipio‘s
character. In Leg., Cicero portrays himself as an urbane man in his own right with an inclination
towards philosophy. This image is promoted in a general way through Marcus‘ long philosophic
disquisition on natural law which takes up the majority of Book 1 (18-63). But in particular,
5 Soles enim tu haec studiose investigare, quae sunt in hoc genere de quo instituerat paulo ante Tubero quaerere. .
. de solibus istis duobus. . . studeo, Phile, ex te audire quid sentias. 6 More generally, Scipio’s argument about the temporal and spatial limitations of politics and human fame in this
section (1.26-27) foreshadows the major themes of his Somnium (6.9-26).
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Marcus makes a distinction between universal law, ius, and the particular laws of states, leges, as
we see in HANDOUT 5:
[Marcus:] We must include in this discussion the whole cause of universal law and of
particular laws... For we must explain the nature of law... [next] we must consider the
particular laws by which states ought to be ruled; then we must treat these... laws and
statutes of peoples, among which the so called civil laws of our own people will not be
hidden either (Leg. 1.17).
[M.]: Sed nobis ita complectenda in hac disputatione tota causa est universi iuris ac
legum... Natura enim iuris explicanda nobis est... considerandae leges quibus civitates
regi debeant; tum haec tractanda... iura et iussa populorum, in quibus ne nostri quidem
populi latebunt quae vocantur iura civilia.
Just as Scipio saw beyond the confines of the political order particular to Rome, so Marcus sees
beyond the particular laws of states to a universal law which can serve as the basis of all
particular laws.
The parallel between Scipio and Marcus as men of philosophic learning is further
strengthened by the similarity of the interaction between Scipio and Laelius in Rep. and that of
Marcus and Quintus in Leg. The inclinations of Scipio and Marcus lead them to talk about
matters which the less intellectual men in the conversation seem to find useless. For example, in
the midst of his discourse on natural law, Marcus broaches the question of the dispute about the
highest good between the Old Academy and the Stoics. Marcus and Atticus discuss how the
conflict between the schools on this question might be resolved (1.52-55). But when Marcus
suggests that the solution is for everyone to ―obey the boundaries which Socrates stipulated”
(requiri placere terminos quos Socrates pepigerit, eisque parere, 1.56), Quintus, noticing the
legal terms his brother employs, takes the opportunity to redirect the conversation, for which
please see HANDOUT 6:
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[Quintus:] Fantastic, brother! You just now started to make use of the terms of civil law
and particular laws, and I am [still] waiting for your discussion about this subject. . . I
don‘t know if this matter [of the highest good] can ever be decided, but it certainly can‘t
in this conversation, at least if we‘re going to finish what we started.
[Marcus (or Atticus?)]: I was the one who veered off in that direction [towards the
discussion of the highest good], and not unwillingly.
[Quintus]: It‘ll be permitted some other time. Now let‘s do what we began, especially
since this disagreement about the highest evil and good has nothing to do with it.
[Marcus:] You speak very prudently, Quintus. . . (Leg. 1.56-7)
[Q.]: Praeclare, frater! Iam nunc a te verba usurpantur civilis iuris ac legum, quo de
genere exspecto disputationem tuam. . . Hoc diiudicari nescio an numquam, sed hoc
sermone certe non potest, siquidem id quod suscepimus perfecturi sumus.
[M. (vel A.?)]: At ego huc declinabam, nec invitus.
[Q.]: Licebit alias; nunc id agamus quod coepimus, cum praesertim ad id nihil pertineat
haec de summo malo bonoque dissensio.
[M.]: Prudentissime, Quinte, dicis. . .
Quintus rather forcefully returns the discussion to its original trajectory. Quintus argues in favor
of dropping the current question on the grounds that it cannot be resolved, and certainly not
during the present conversation. Now, Atticus and Marcus would not necessarily disagree, but
the awareness that the question may not ultimately have a definitive answer is no reason for them
to desist from that question. Quintus‘ words reveal his unphilosophic frame of mind. He wants
to bring the conversation back to the plane of politics, eagerly anticipating the legal doctrines his
brother will provide. Marcus‘ character as a philosophic man, therefore, stands out more clearly
through the contrast provided by his fellow interlocutor Quintus.
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Likewise, Scipio is recalled by Laelius from his discussion of the two suns to the more
pragmatic topic of the best form of government. Laelius, upon hearing from Philus that he and
Scipio are discussing the recent report in the senate (1.15) regarding the sighting of two suns in
the sky, indignantly remarks: ―Indeed, Philus? So have we already figured out matters which
concern our homes and the state, since we‘re now apparently asking what‘s going on in the sky?‖
(Rep. 1.19) (Ain vero, Phile? Iam explorata nobis sunt ea quae ad domos nostras quaeque ad
rem publicam pertinent, siquidem quid agatur in caelo quaerimus?) Laelius allows the
discussion of the two suns to continue for a time, but before long he asserts himself again to
draw the conversation away from what he views as a useless topic, as we see in HANDOUT 7:
―But Scipio‘s detractors and enemies control part of the senate... while the treaties have
been broken and those revolutionary extremists, the triumviri [of the land commission],
are daily scheming some new plan... For which reason, if you‘ll heed what I say, young
men, don‘t worry about that second sun... we can‘t know anything about those matters.
But having one senate and people is something which is both possible and, if it fails to
happen, extremely unbearable... [So] let‘s ask Scipio to explain what form of the state he
thinks is the best.‖ (Rep. 1.31-33)
Obtrectatores autem et invidi Scipionis. . . tenent. . . senatus alteram partem. . . foederibus
violatis, triumviris seditiosissimis aliquid cotidie novi molientibus. . . Quamobrem si me
audietis, adulescentes, solem alterum ne metueritis. . . scire istarum rerum nihil. . .
possumus. Senatum vero et populum ut unum habeamus, et fieri potest et permolestum
est nisi fit. . . Scipionem rogemus ut explicet quem existimet esse optimum statum
civitatis.
Laelius calls attention to the current crisis of the state to convince the others that they should be
speaking about political matters. Like Quintus, he shrugs off the philosophic question at issue by
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declaring that it cannot be resolved. Quintus and Laelius, then, perform similar roles, and their
similarity calls attention, in turn, to the similarity between Marcus and Scipio.7
Another parallel between Scipio and Marcus is their common identity as senior
statesmen. First, as regards Scipio, he is portrayed, through the mouth of Laelius, as the one man
who has the capacity to save the state in its current crisis over the land commission established
by Gracchus, and yet is excluded from doing so, for which please see HANDOUT 8: ―But
Scipio‘s detractors and enemies. . . do not allow him, the one man who is able. . . to bring
assistance in the midst of such dangerous affairs‖ (Rep. 1.31). (Obtrectatores autem et invidi
Scipionis. . . neque hunc, qui unus potest. . . his tam periculosis rebus subvenire patiuntur.)
Finally, in the Somnium, Africanus delivers a conditional prophecy that Scipio will be the savior
of the state, and this is HANDOUT 9:
―To you alone and to your name will the entire state turn itself. . . you alone will be the
man upon whom the salvation of the state rests, and, in sum, as dictator it will be for you
to establish the state, if you end up escaping the impious hands of your neighbors‖ (Rep.
6.12).
In te unum atque in tuum nomen se tota convertet civitas. . . tu eris unus in quo nitatur
civitatis salus, ac ne multa, dictator rem publicam constituas oportet, si impias
propinquorum manus effugeris.
The anaphora of the word alone, unus, here recalls the wording of Laelius in Book 1, where
Scipio was said to be the one man able to remedy the situation, unus qui potest (1.31).8 In both
passages, Scipio is foreseen as the one man who can resolve the political crisis.
7 “Gaius Laelius... is portrayed as an ironic and practical man, who repeatedly returns the conversation from the
higher philosophical flights of Scipio to the real world of Roman life” (Zetzel 1999, xiii). “*Quintus’+ interest in philosophy being, apparently, limited, he shows a bit of impatience... He calls a halt altogether to his brother’s digression on the finis bonorum and by putting his concrete expectations on the table sets the discussion back on track (1.56-57)” (Dyck 28). 8 cf. Zetzel 1995 ad. loc. for the similarity of the two passages.
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In a similar way, Cicero makes sure to portray himself in Leg. as a man of
accomplishments in the political arena. Atticus is given the role of calling attention to Cicero‘s
moment of glory during the Catilinarian crisis. Atticus asks Marcus to consider employing his
leisure time to write a history of Rome, as we see in HANDOUT 10: ―A history is demanded of
you. You seem to me to owe this duty to your fatherland, so that the country which was saved
by you may, by you also, be adorned‖ (Leg. 1.5). (Postulatur a te. . . historia. . . mihi videris. . .
patriae debere hoc munus, ut ea quae salva per te est, per te eundem sit ornata.) While these
words bring up Cicero‘s past services towards the state, they are also used by the author to
portray himself as a man who ever remains concerned with politics. For Marcus ultimately
refuses Atticus‘ request, arguing that he does not have the extended amount of leisure time
necessary for completing a history of Rome. As Anna Dolganov has rightly observed, Cicero
implies that he does not intend to remain at leisure for long, and therefore that he wishes to
remain involved in public life.9 Through his own person, Cicero wishes to teach the lesson that a
Roman ought not to pursue leisure to the exclusion of public service. He must always be ready
to apply the learning acquired in leisure for the good of the state.
The common identity of philosophic statesman shared by Marcus and Scipio, and the
emphasis in de Republica on Scipio‘s exclusion from public affairs, call attention to the parallel
in the historical circumstances which holds sway within the drama of the two dialogues. Cicero
appears to be implying that in his own time, too, the republic is in crisis, hardly a surprising
notion, but more importantly, that he is being denied a political role in remedying the crisis. We
should not, however, assume that Cicero does this as a ploy to obtain power, or that he is calling
9 33. In my view, however, Dolganov’s interpretation of Cicero’s purpose in this dialogue as an attempt to gain
political power through the construction of himself as a man with political and literary auctoritas is cynically one-dimensional. The same could be said of the harsh judgments made on Cicero’s character, e.g. :”What follows is the well-known tirade against Roman historiographers (1.5-6), meant to massage Marcus’ ego” (33).
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for himself to be made dictator, in parallel with Africanus‘ prophecy for Scipio in the Somnium.
For the fact that Scipio was denied the ability to intervene in order to save his country and died
shortly after the dramatic date of the dialogue would seem to imply that Cicero foresees that he
will not be given the opportunity to do so either.10
And so the dramatic action of de Republica
suggests that Cicero will not be called on to save the state, and the crisis in the state in his own
time will not be remedied. Though it is unclear if Cicero thought he too was soon to die, Leg.,
following Rep., may suggest an intractable political problem for the Roman republic which
guarantees its failure: it is precisely that statesman most capable of safely guiding the state out of
a crisis who is excluded from office when his services are most required.11
What James Zetzel
(1995) has claimed for Cicero‘s de Republica can be claimed for his de Legibus as well: like its
predecessor, de Legibus proves to be, not mere political propaganda, but a carefully crafted
dialogue on political philosophy.
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The gloomy and bleak outlook Cicero continually conveys in his letters during the late 50s contribute to this interpretation. 11
The problem of the exclusion of the philosopher-statesman in Rep. and Leg. seems to be Cicero’s creative parallel to the permanent problem of the unlikelihood of philosophers ever becoming kings in Plato’s Republic.
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Appendix: Other Relevant Texts
de Re Publica 1.36
(Scipio:) ―I ask you to listen to me in the following way: neither as one altogether unversed in
Greek matters, nor as one preferring them to our own (especially in this subject matter [of
politics]), but as one of those who wear the toga, liberally educated due to the diligence of my
father, and fired with the love of learning from the time I was a boy, but much more learned
through experience and through the precepts I received at home than through literature.‖
‗Peto a vobis ut me sic audiatis: neque ut omnino expertem Graecarum rerum, neque ut eas
nostris in hoc praesertim genere anteponentem; sed ut unum e togatis, patris diligentia non
illiberaliter institutum, studioque discendi a pueritia incensum, usu tamen et domesticis
praeceptis multo magis eruditum quam litteris.‘
de Legibus 3.14
[Marcus]: We can recall men who were merely somewhat learned who were great in politics, and
many extremely learned men who were not very experienced in the politics. But who can we
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easily find, with the exception of [Demetrius of Phalerum], who excelled in both areas, so that he
was number one both in the pursuit of learning and in ruling the state?
[Atticus]: I think that we can, and in fact it‘s one of us three.
[M.]: Et mediocriter doctos magnos in re publica viros, et doctissimos homines non nimis in re
publica versatos multos commemorare possumus; qui vero utraque re excelleret, ut et doctrinae
studiis et regenda civitate princeps esset, quis facile praeter hunc [Demetrium Phalereum]
inveniri potest?
[A.]: Puto posse, et quidem aliquem de tribus nobis.
Fam. 9.2.5, Cicero to Varro, April 46
Now let us be determined to do the following: to live united in our studies, from which in time
before we were wont to seek delight, but now, in addition, safety; not to be found wanting, if
anyone wants to make use of us not only as architects but even as builders for the construction of
the state, and to come running to her aid quite willingly; if no hires us, nevertheless to write and
to read republics (―regimes‖) and to guide the ship of state and to ask questions about mores and
laws, if not in the senate house and in the forum, then in literature and in books, as highly learned
men of old have done. These things seem best to me, but what you will do and what seems best
to you, it will be most pleasing to me if you‘ll write it to me.
Modo nobis stet illud: una vivere in studiis nostris, a quibus antea delectationem modo
petebamus, nunc vero etiam salutem; non deesse, si quis adhibere volet, non modo ut architectos,
verum etiam ut fabros, ad aedificandam rem publicam, et potius libenter accurrere; si nemo
utetur opera, tamen et scribere et legere πολιτείας et, si minus in curia atque in foro, at in litteris
et libris, ut doctissimi veteres fecerunt, gubernare rem publicam et de moribus ac legibus
quaerere. Mihi haec videntur: tu quid sis acturus et quid tibi placeat, pergratum erit, si ad me
scripseris.
Leg. 1.14
[Marcus]: Where are you calling me, or what are you encouraging me to do? To draw up little
treatises on the law governing trickles of water from roofs, or boundary walls? Or to compose
formulas for contracts and judgments? Yet these are subjects which many have carefully written
up, and are more lowly than the sort of matters which I imagine are expected from me.
[M.]: Quo me vocas, aut quid hortaris? Ut libellos conficiam de stillicidiorum ac de parietum
iure, an ut stipulationum et iudiciorum formulas componam? Quae et scripta a multis sunt
diligenter, et sunt humiliora quam illa quae a nobis exspectari puto.