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CONFIRMED MINUTESCOMP/NMMT/NMMM

FEBRUARY 2012

CONFIRMED MINUTESFEBRUARY 20-24, 2012

SHERATON SAN DIEGO HOTEL AND MARINASAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA, USA

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

MONDAY, 20-FEB-12 TO THURSDAY, 23-FEB-12

CLOSED COMPOSITES (COMP)/NON METALLIC MATERIALS TESTING (NMMT)/NON METALLIC MATERIALS MANUFACTUIRNG (NMMM) MEETING

0.1 CALL TO ORDER / QUORUM CHECK - CLOSED

The Composites (COMP)/NON METALLIC MATERIALS TESTING (NMMT)/NON METALLIC MATERIALS MANUFACTUIRNG (NMMM) Task Groups were called to order at 8:00 AM, 20-Feb-12 with 15 prime voting members present. It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.

A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:

Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)NAME COMPANY NAME

* Pete Atwell Airbus* Muriel Auzanne Airbus* Mike Bemis Goodrich* Laura Benedetti SAFRAN Group

Pam Blevins GDATP* Pietro Bonarrigo Bombardier, Inc

Robin Borrelli The Boeing Company* Tara Campbell Rolls-Royce Group* Elmer Cardwell General Dynamics* Ray Cleghorn The Boeing Company

Linda Colli Rolls Royce Corp* Jeff Conrad Cessna Aircraft Company

Georges Coste SARFRAN GROUPKent DeFranco Lockheed Martin

* Joe DeVirgilio The Boeing CompanyMichael Dickerson GDATPTimothy Ditch The Boeing CompanyGeorge Doviak Goodrich

* Kevin Dowling Spirit AeroSystems Inc. ChairLecindro E. Percira EMBRAER S.A.Kevin Elston Spirit Aerosystems

* Achim Enzmann Eurocopter* Sara Gunnarsson Volvo Aero* Richard Hammond The Boeing Company* Brett Hemingway BAE Systems* Mark Jackson Triumph Aerostructures – Vought

Aircraft Division* John Key Bell Helicopter Vice Chair* Betty Kocsis Honeywell Aerospace

Manuel Koucouthakis Honeywell Aerospace* Eric LeFort Sonaca* Frank Lennert The Boeing Company

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* Lance Loeks The Boeing CompanyJeff Lott The Boeing Company

* Leah Markowitz Honeywell Aerospace* Andreas Mastorakis GE Aviation* Angelina Mendoza Goodrich AC7118

SecretaryDiana Mendoza Honeywell AerospaceTim Myers HoneywellVang Nguyen GoodrichOlivier Nolinas EurocopterLarry Olsen Northrop Grumman Corp

* Keith Panuska Lockheed Martin Corporation AC7122 and AC7124 Secretary

Jeremy Phillips Cessna AircraftPerin Price GoodrichAmanda Rickman Raytheon

* Leroy Samuels Ball Aerospace & Technologies CorpChristian Schwamiyer MTU Aero EnginesKenneth Sposato Triumph Aerostructures – Vought

Aircraft Division* Anne Stanley Bombardier, Inc

Mike Steele The Boeing CompanyArmen Talverdian The Boeing CompanyNeil Tinsley P & WCMichael Walker Spirit AeroSystems Inc.Ella Watson GoodrichAndrea West GoodrichVerl Wisehart Rolls Royce CorpLing Yap The Boeing CompanySamadi Yoeuth Goodrich

Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)NAME COMPANY NAMERichard Alkire HexcelMayana Amis GME Aerospace - BrasilJohn Boyd Burnham Composite Structures, Inc

* Paul Braun Cincinnati Testing Laboratories* Kevin Brennan Swift Engineering, Inc.

Tom Brooks Applied Composites Engineering* Jim Brown Hexcel* Pierangelo Campagna EXOVA

Andrew Cantrell Fargensen ForgeJulien Corato EXOVARoger Coryer ATK Composite StructuresWilliam DeLaurier IMR Test LabsSuzanna DeMoss 3MEric Dirats Dirats LaboratoriesPatrick Durkin TE Wire & Cable LiaisonTim Edmunds Metcut ResearchRyan Finley Hexcel

* Ben Flores AASCJorge Garcia C&D Zodiac MexicoAlan Hambley Durkee Testing Laboratories, IncJim Harlukowicz Element Materials Tech

* Rick Heise Swift Engineering, Inc.

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John Hill PTI IndustriesPeter Holden Precision Polymer Engineering LTD

UKHubert Kern FACC AG

* Dennis Kidd Cincinnati Testing LaboratoriesJeff Kingsley USAFGreg Lebosky Element Materials Tech.Jianghong Liang Web IndustriesDavid Luoni Element Materials TechnologyDebra Maier ATK Composite StructuresPaul Maldonado C&D Zodiac MexicoRobert Manring GKN AerospaceJessica Mattison Parco, IncJosh Mazin Flamemaster CorpDan McMillen Parco, IncLeticia Mimoz Presto Casting CoOmar Miranda Aernnova Aerospace Mexico

* John Moylan Delsen Testing LaboratoriesAlieia Olvera Aerodesign S.AJacob Padrul ConstelliumJose Perez Element Materials Tech.

* Richard Perrett Advanced Composite Group* Rick Price Park Electochemical

Steve Reilly Sherry LabsSerjio Ribeiro GME Aerospace - BrasilRyumuudo Rodriguez C&D Zodica Mexico

* James Rossi Westmoreland Mechanical Testing & Research, Inc.

Fernando Ruiz C&D Zodiac Mexico* Don Russell Toray Composites

Vicki Salzarulo Kaman Aerospace* Steve Schrameyer Cytec Engineered Materials* David Scott Hitco Carbon Composites

Rostislav Sirotkin National Institute of Aviation Technologies

Jeffrey Smith Element Cleveland* Kevin Snyder Composites Horizons Inc* Vitorio Stana Avcorp

Bill Steen Presto Casting CoGary Thompson Darchem Engineering LTD UKErick Thornquist Leading Technology CompositesRao Tipirneni Long Island Testing Labs

* Arno Toelkes Euro-CompositesShane Tucker Leading Technology CompositesNancy Vancil TorayJohn Vancura Expanded Rubber and PlasticsJacob Wallace ElementDan Walsh Triumph Composite SystemsAlisa Ware Applied Composited EngineeringJames Ware Applied Composites EngineeringThomas Watson J.D. Lincoln, IncFrank Worpenberg MAR-Test

PRI Staff Present Rebekah Braun Keith PurnellRob Hoeth Kevin WetzelSarah Jordan

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Joe Pinto

0.2 OPENNING COMMENTS - CLOSED

The Code of Ethics and Conflict of Interest Policy was presented for all Nadcap attendees. This information is also available in the Nadcap Attendees Guide. Open Meetings versus Closed Meeting Guidelines were presented.

The Staff Engineer (Rebekah Braun) presented the agenda for the CLOSED Task Group meeting.

0.3 SE DELEGATION - CLOSED

PRI reviewed the delegation data for AC7118 with the Task Group. The Task Group concurred with the recommendations. Delegation is maintained for Rebekah Braun - Senior Staff Engineer.

PRI reviewed the delegation data for AC7122 with the Task Group. The Task Group concurred with the recommendations. Delegation is maintained for Rebekah Braun - Senior Staff Engineer.

0.2.1 Staff Engineer - Auditor Qualification Audits

Currently two Training audits scheduled:o T1 - 145257 - Brian Johnson - 2-5 April 2012o T2 - 142433 - Dave Kennedy - 13-15 August 2012

Rebekah Braun is scheduled to attend an AS9100 Lead Auditor Course - RABQSA Certified scheduled for 14-18 May 2012. Task Group agreed to waive the T1 requirements for Rebekah Braun to become an approved Composite (AC7118) Auditor. T2 will be completed as planned.

0.3 CONSULTANT REVIEWER/AUDITOR TRAINING - CLOSED

0.3.1 Review the current status of Composite Consultant Reviewer’s training

A new Consultant Reviewer began training in December 2011. In addition to on-site training at PRI Headquarters, the Staff Engineer and Consultant Reviewer are performing joint reviews of AC7118 audits. To date, 5 audits have been reviewed or are currently going through the joint review process. Task Group has the ability to review the audit packages that are currently assigned to the Consultant Reviewer. These audits are assigned to the Consultant Reviewer but they are included in the joint audit review process. Once approved to review audits on their own, the Consultant Reviewer will not be allowed to review their own audits, only those performed by other auditors.

0.3.2 New Trainee Auditor

A new Auditor Candidate has been approved by the Task Group to move forward through training audits (T1 and T2). In addition to the T1 and T2 training requirements, the Trainee Auditor must also receive training on Compression Molding (CMP), Liquid Resin Processing (LRP) andAutomated Processing (Section 16e, f and g) prior to allowing the candidate to audit these scopes on their own.

Compression Molding training will be provided via the presentation that was provide to the Composite Auditor base during the October 2011 Auditor Conference. It was agreed that the Task Group Chair and Staff Engineer will work together to schedule similar training that was provided for the Composite Auditor base in 2011 for Automated Processing. This is estimated to be completed by the end of April 2012 and it is expected that the new Trainee Auditor will be upgraded to an Auditor by the end of April 2012.

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Until Liquid Resin Processing training can be organized, the Trainee Auditor will not be approved to audit to this scope of accreditation.

0.3.3 Auditor Capacity

There is a need for a Composite Auditor in the Asia Sector. The Task Group was directed to contact the Composite Staff Engineer in the event a potential candidate is identified.

0.4 OBSERVATION AUDIT TEAM - STATUS UPDATE - CLOSED

An update on the progress of Observation Audits was provided including the number of audits observed, what Subscribing Members have completed an observation, what Auditors have been observed and do we need to assign an observation for an Auditor that may not have been observed as of yet. This data was reviewed in addition to a detailed review of the Observation Audit Feedback Forms that have been submitted since the October 2011 meeting.

ACTION ITEM – Observation Audit Sub-Team to review the progress to date and determine how to move forward. Did we review an adequate number of audits from the "top 40"? Do we use the same statistical analysis to identify audits to observe in 2012-2013? John Key (Lead), Mike Bemis, Lance Loeks, Betty Kocsis, Monica Alcala, Brett Hemingway (Due Date: 15-Jun-12)

Task Group agreed that a Composite Specific appendix is something we would like to implement in the Observation Audit process. Comments on the Observation Audit Feedback Form are getting better and it was agreed to use the example of type of feedback that is desired.

It was agreed that the Observer Qualifications concept adopted by the Chemical Processing Task Group could be value added for some commodities but would not be necessary for the COMP, NMMT or NMMM Task Groups due to the high level of oversight of Nadcap audits that is consistently maintained by the Task Group.

ACTION ITEM – PRI to bring auditor performance data to each Nadcap meeting to review during the Closed meeting. Use this data to identify areas for improvements for Auditors. (Due Date: 25-Jun-12)

ACTION ITEM – PRI to pull the list of COMP, NMMT and NMMM audits that are scheduled to take place between 1 July 2012 through 30 June 2013 and send to John Key. (Due Date: 14-Mar-12)

ACTION ITEM – John Key to call a meeting of the Observation Audit Sub-Team to discuss the points made in February Action Item #2. (Due Date: 31-Mar-12)

ACTION ITEM – PRI to report out an update of the Observation Audit activity. How many COMP, NMMT and NMMM audits were observed, who observed, etc. (Due Date: 15-Jun-12)

0.4.1 Audit Observation Form Feedback Review

Audit Observer Feedback Forms were reviewed by the Task Group. As a result, feedback will be sent to the COMP Auditor base in an Auditor Advisory.

ACTION ITEM – PRI to list the previous Observation audit number for all Auditors on the COMP/NMMT/NMMM Observation Audit Tracking Log. Share the feedback from the previous Observation audit with the current observer. (Due Date: 30-Mar-12)

ACTION ITEM – Lance Loeks to determine if JJG 475-2008 is equivalent to ISO 7500-1 and ASTM E4. (Due Date: 30-Apr-12)

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ACTION ITEM – PRI to add to October Auditor Training - Training on the verification of customer specific approvals. Customer Approved Equipment, testing, facilities, etc. (Lead on Topic Development - Kevin Dowling) All Subscribing members will be requested to provide feedback on their specifics. (Due Date: 22-Aug-12)

0.5 AUDITS FOR TASK GROUP DISCUSSION - CLOSED

The Task Group reviewed a number of AC7118 and AC7122 audits that required Task Group Discussion.

The following topics were discussed as the result of Audit Package Review:

Core Storageo What type of protection from contaminants is expected to be compliant with AC7118 Rev C

paragraphs 5.1.14, 15a-b.1.8 and Table 1? An Action Item was assigned for a sub-team to review these questions and provide

recommendation for revision to questions and/or handbook clarification. Scope of Accreditation - No Work In Process (WIP)

o How should the Task Group address the issue when a Supplier requests a scope of accreditation but cannot provide WIP to support the scope of accreditation (i.e. only Historical data or Demonstration Parts are able to be provided)?

As defined in the AC7118 Rev C, paragraph 2.2.2.1, merit may be impacted when Demonstration Parts are used to meet the requirement to have a minimum of 50% of the Job Audits completed with WIP. A similar approach will be taken when a significant amount of historical data is used to complete Job Audits. This will continue to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

ACTION ITEM – Team to review questions 5.1.14, 15a.1.8 and Table 1 and provide a proposal to better clarify the expectation. Also consider the handbook clarification that exists. Bring a proposal, recommendation back in the June 2012 Nadcap Meeting. John Key (Lead), Lance Loeks. (Due Date: 25-Jun-12)

ACTION ITEM – PRI to request for enhance to eAuditNet. Allow for a drop down box for each job audit to identify if the work was In Process, Demonstration or Historical. This could be applied cross commodity and allow for reporting data. (Due Date: 2-Mar-12)

0.6 OPEN DISCUSSION - CLOSED

0.6.1 Processing Capabilities

How can we ensure Suppliers are correctly identifying the scope of their audit?

Primes should verify their unique suppliers for compliance. The Processing Capabilities are identified in the s-frm-15. The Supplier is required to complete the s-frm-15 to identify the scope of their audit. Definitions already exist in the Audit Handbook for AC7118.

0.6.2 Prime Issued Supplier Advisory 2068

The Task Group reviewed the details provided in the Supplier Advisory and voted to take one of the following actions:1) No action. Let the certification stay until next audit in October.2) Withdraw accreditation. Supplier can come back into the system within 90 days of withdrawal.3) Suspend certification for a set period of time (90 days) and define actions that need to be taken to have the certification re-instated.

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A vote was taken and it was agreed to go with item #3. The standing Composite accreditation for the associated Supplier will be suspended pending completion of RCCA for the issues identified in the Supplier Advisory. Suspension period will be for 90 days. If adequate RCCA is not provided within 90 days and the issues cannot be considered as Closed, the certificate will be withdrawn.

0.6.3 Auditor Training Topic

When an engineering processing parameter is violated, does the Task Group want to have the Auditors document in the NCR if this is only a Manufacturing issue, or did this processing step also require Quality Control? If quality control was involved, was the non-conformance detected?

ACTION ITEM – PRI to modify s-frm-15 to include the statement, "See the AH7118 Auditor Handbook for definitions." (Due Date: 2 March 2012)

ACTION ITEM – PRI to circulate feedback to COMP Auditors from the Observation Audit Feedback Review. (Due Date: 2-Mar-12)

0.7 MEEING CLOSE-OUT - CLOSED

Tentative agenda topics for the June 2011 meeting:

One Day for Closed MeetingSE DelegationConsultant Reviewer StatusObservation Audit Sub-Team Report Auditor Training Topic DevelopmentAuditor Performance Data ReviewAudits for Task Group Discussion

ADJOURNMENT – (20-February-2012) – The Composite Task Group CLOSED portion of the meeting was adjourned at 5:00 p.m.

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1.0 OPENING COMMENTS FOR COMP - OPEN

1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check

This was an open meeting attended by Subscribers and Supplier Members

A quorum of 17 Subscribing Voting Members was established with the representatives in attendance listed above.

1.2 The Code of Ethics and Conflict of Interest Policy was presented for all Nadcap attendees. This information is also available in the Nadcap Attendees Guide.

1.3 Open Meetings versus Closed Meeting Guidelines were presented.

1.4 Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes

Motion was put forth to accept minutes from the October 2011 meeting. The minutes from October 2011 were approved as written.

1.5 Approval of New Voting Members

The following members have been approved by the Composites/Non Metallic Materials Testing/Non Metallic Materials Manufacturing Task Group to be added as Voting Members/Alternate Voting Members.

Ray Cleghorn - The Boeing Company - Alternate Subscriber Voting Member - AC7118, AC7122, AC7124Joseph DeVirgilio - The Boeing Company - Alternate Subscriber Voting Member - AC7118, AC7122, AC7124

1.6 Review of Meeting Agenda

The Staff Engineer (Rebekah Braun) presented the agenda for the Composites Task Group for this week.

2.0 STAFF REPORT – OPEN

Items of interest since the October 2011 Nadcap meeting were reviewed in addition to 2012 audit projections, current Auditor status and top nonconformances written against the AC7118 Rev B.Observation Audit Team is progressing and we are surpassing our goals. The first audit with Compression Molding has been conducted and accredited. A new Auditor has been contracted for AC7118, Jeff Reese.

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The above embedded presentation is also posted on eAuditNet under Resources - Documents - Public Documents – Composites – Meeting Presentations.

Future Meeting Information:

Berlin, Germany – June 2012Pittsburgh, PA – October 2012Dallas, TX – January 2013

ACTION ITEM – PRI to compare Top 20 job audits, current and past years to identify changes/trends. (Due Date: 25-Jun-12)

ACTION ITEM – PRI to show the More or Less Data per Auditor (identify them with A, B, C, etc.) and provide details such as more by 1, 2, 3 or less by 1, 2, 3. See the charts that are being used by NDT. (Due Date: 15-Jun-12)

3.0 METRICS – OPEN

The Composites Task Group Metrics for Suppliers, Staff Engineer and Task Group Initial and Reaccreditation Cycle Time, Supplier Merit and Subscribing Member Balloting were all reviewed.

Total Supplier Cycle Time – Initial Audit (Goal 25 with Average 20)Total Supplier Cycle Time – Reaccreditation Audits (Goal 25 with Average 15) Total Staff Engineer Cycle Time – Initial Audits (Goal 14 with Average 13)Total Staff Engineer Cycle Time – Reaccreditation (Goal 14 with Average 5)Total Task Group Cycle Time – Initial Audits (Goal 8 with Average 8)Total Task Group Cycle Time – Reaccreditation Audits (Goal 8 with Average 11) Supplier Merit – Goal is to have 80% of Eligible Suppliers on Merit, Actual is 72%.

Composite Task Group still has 97% participation of oversight on the audits.

4.0 SUPPLIER SUPPORT COMMITTEE (SSC) REPORT – OPEN

The SSC update was presented by Kevin Dowling including the mission and purpose of this committee.

The SSC is reinvigorating the Mentor Program for new Suppliers and has opened a booth in the registration area to answer questions and to help suppliers get into the proper task group.SSC Activities include: Metrics, Supplier Survey, Communication, Education, Nadcap Meetings and new initiatives for contract flow down and SSC Sponsored presentations (Export Control and eQualified)

The Composite Task Group is looking for a new SSC representative due to the loss of our current representative.

Vitorio Stana from Avcorp is a mentor for the Composite Task Group.

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5.0 PROCEDURE REVIEW – OPEN

NOP-006 – Supplier Advisories, NOP-008 – Supplier Merit Program, NOP-011 – Audit Failure Process and new procedure NOP-009 – Suspension and Withdrawal of Accreditation, NTGOP001 and Appendix XIV procedures were reviewed and specific items were highlighted. Please see the attached presentation for details.

All procedures can be found on eAuditNet under Resources - Documents - Nadcap Procedures.

Discussion ensued about the suspension of the AS9100 at many suppliers due to the change from Revision B to Revision C. Robin stated that this issue is being discussed by the NMC and guidance from the Council would be forth coming soon.

ACTION ITEM – For Procedure Review, keep the presentation up to date but PRI to only provide a report out of changes to procedures. Update the Procedure Review for every Nadcap meeting. (Due Date: 15-Jun-12)

6.0 ACTION ITEM REPORT OUT (RAIL) – OPEN

The Rolling Action Item List (RAIL) was reviewed and updated.

June 2011 AI #6 – Andreas Mastorakis (Lead) – OPEN – Team to define the scope of work for creating a pyrometry standard for autoclaves and ovens for use in composite manufacturing. Also discuss the scope of work with the HT Task Group to determine if they are organizing a similar activity. - Will be discussed during Agenda Item 7.0

June 2011 AI #14 – PRI – OPEN – Create a standard Opening and Closing Meeting presentation for the Composite Auditors to use. Bring the suggestion to monthly PRI SE SWAT meeting and ask that all commodities adopt one standard presentation. This will ensure that all data presented is correct (in the event the procedures are revised).

A standard Opening and Closing Meeting presentation is being discussed with the Initial Auditor Training Sub-Team composed of PRI Staff Engineers and other PRI Staff. If this team decides to not adopt a standard presentation, NDT has provided a good example that can be used for Composites and Non Metallic Materials.

October 2011 AI #1 - PRI - CLOSED - Review Auditor data - Look at Auditor #2 vs. Auditor #1. Did #2 write more NCRs that previous or less NCRs? - Discussed during the Closed Meeting

October 2011 AI #2 - PRI - CLOSED - Add to "Procedure Review", NTGOP-001 and Appendix 14. - Discussed during Agenda Item 5.0

October 2011 AI #3 - ALL PRIMES - CLOSED - Primes to update mandates or send communication to Suppliers who will now be impacted by the AC7118 Rev C where previously they were not. For example, Suppliers who need to be audited for Compression Molding.

October AI #4 - PRI - CLOSED - Send the Audit Grading Spreadsheet to all Supplier and Subscriber Voting Members. - Emails on 19 OCT 11

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October AI #5 - Severine Guitton - CLOSED - Develop a guide for Supplier to use that will help them to find various meeting documentation (such as NCR data analysis and other meeting presentations) on eAuditNet. - Discussed during Agenda Item 4.0

October 2011 AI #6 - PRI - CLOSED - Ensure that RCCA Training is included in the Consultant Reviewers Training for AC7118. - Discussed during Closed Meeting

October 2011 AI #7 -PRI - CLOSED - Coordinate a meeting with Auditor and Task Group Chair to discuss audit results. - Discussed with the Auditor. Further details provided during the Closed Meeting.

October 2011 AI #8 - John Key - CLOSED - Oversight Audit Team to meet to determine subject matter for the February 2012 NMC Meeting report out. Include proposal for modification to audit feedback form. - Presentation created and presented to the Auditor Consistency Sub-Team on Monday, 20 February 2012.

October 2011 AI #9 - PRI - CLOSED - Circulate the tracking log to all the subscribing members and modify the tracking log to include audit start dates. - Email circulated on 25 January 2012.

October 2011 AI #10 - PRI - CLOSED - Send an email to Primes a request that the Subscriber place more input, observation and examples of what Auditors may have missed and things they could have done better. Provide strengths and opportunities for improvements. - Email circulated on 25 January 2012.

7.0 PYROMETRY FOR AUTOCLAVES AND OVENS USED FOR COMPOSITE PART MANUFACTURING - OPEN

Andreas Mastorakis gave the presentation to summarize what the Pyrometry sub-team has been working on. He highlighted the differences between our industry requirements and AMS 2750. The AMS 2750 has more detail in location of sensors, system requirements for the system, the sensor calibration requirement and calibration frequencies.

We next reviewed the comments that were given against the Bombardier Specification that was circulated since it was voted the best of the prime specifications for autoclaves and ovens.

It was suggested to go through the AMS P17 Composite Materials Committee. This would probably create a new standard due to the differences within the metal industry and the composite industries. The Bombardier document could be revised to set up the general sections and the information required within them. The document could then be shared/sent to the committee so they can review it and if approved, we can polish it up

Discussed frequency of how many primes require annual uniformity and performance surveys with a loaded autoclave. Most of the primes do not do this. This is a qualification requirement only.

It was discussed with Doug Matson (The Boeing Company, Heat Treat Task Group Representative) that most composite documents have “too many loopholes” and this would need to be addressed in any new standard or referred back to AMS 2750.

Both SAFRAN Group and Rolls Royce Group currently mandate AMS 2750 with exceptions written within their internal company document.

ACTION ITEM – PRI to re-circulate the Bombardier specification with applicable reference documents to Subscriber and Supplier Voting Members and any additional that request to be included in the circulation. Comments requested to be provided 4 weeks after circulation date. (Due Date: 9-Mar-12)

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ACTION ITEM – Anne Stanley (Bombardier Task Group Representative) to provide the additional reference documents (in the Bombardier specification) to PRI. (Due Date: 2-Mar-12)

ACTION ITEM – Pyrometry sub-team to meet to review and resolve the comments that are received. Team to be prepared to bring a proposal to the June 2012 Nadcap meeting. Andreas Mastorakis (Lead) (Due Date: 4-May-12)

ACTION ITEM – Send Andreas Mastorakis the comments that were made during the February 2012 Nadcap meeting in regards to the Pyrometry standard. (Due Date: 2-Mar-12)

8.0 CHANGES BETWEEN AC7118 REV B TO REV C - OPEN

Kevin Dowling presented the data that was presented during the three telecoms throughout the world, and due to the high participation at the San Diego meeting, it was decided to go over this information for the suppliers present.

This presentation can also be found on eAuditNet - Resources - Documents - Public Documents - Composites - Audit Information.

9.0 OPEN DISCUSSION - OPEN 9.1 Adding an Additional Scope to an Accreditation - Should this Impact Merit?

Discussion centered on should the supplier be penalized for getting a new scope of accreditation. Task Group concurrence is that adding a scope will not directly affect merit. The merit criteria will be applied, regardless of scope change from previous audit.

9.2 Historical Job Audits and Supplier Merit Impact

How should the Task Group address the issue when a Supplier requests a scope of accreditation but cannot provide WIP to support the scope of accreditation (i.e. only Historical data or Demonstration Parts are able to be provided)?

As defined in the AC7118 Rev C, paragraph 2.2.2.1, merit may be impacted when Demonstration Parts are used to meet the requirement to have a minimum of 50% of the Job Audits completed with WIP. A similar approach will be taken when a significant amount of historical data is used to complete Job Audits. This will continue to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

9.3 Annual Update of NOP-011 Mode B Failure Criteria: COMP

The Failure Criteria was reviewed and discussed. The Task Group voted and chose to keep the 2012 Audit Failure Criteria the same as 2011 (no changes).

ACTION ITEM - Using historical data to answer the same job audits on consecutive audits. Should merit be impacted? Should a Supplier receive the applicable scope of accreditation when historical data is used to answer the job audits on consecutive audits? Team to evaluate this situation and provide a proposal. Lance Loeks (Lead), Mike Bemis, Kevin Dowling, Pete Atwell, Elmer Cardwell, Vitorio Stana, John Vancura. (Due Date: 25-Jun-12)

ACTION ITEM - PRI to look at multiple past year data when considering changes to NOP-011 Failure Mode B criteria, not just 1 year. (Due Date: 10-Feb-13)

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ACTION ITEM - PRI to add to the June 2012 Nadcap meeting agenda an item to discuss adding the processing of thermoplastics to the AC7118. (Due Date: 25-Jun-12)

10.0 MEETING CLOSE-OUT - OPEN


One and a Half Days for AC7118Staff Report MetricsSSC ReportProcedure Review - Revised ProceduresAction Item Report OutObservation Audit Sub-Team status report outThermoplastics in AC7118Core Storage Sub Team proposalHistorical data for job audits - impact to merit proposalPyrometry for CompositesOpen Discussion

ADJOURNMENT - (21-February-2012) - The Composite (AC7118) portion of the meeting was adjourned at 4:30 PM.

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1.0 OPENING COMMENTS FOR NMMT – OPEN

1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check.

The Non Metallic Materials Testing (NMMT) Task Group was called to order at 8:00 AM, 22-Feb-12.


A quorum of 16 Voting Subscribing Members was established with the representatives in attendance listed above

1.2 The Code of Ethics and Conflict of Interest Policy was presented for all Nadcap attendees. This information is also available in the Nadcap Attendees Guide.



The Staff Engineer (Rebekah Braun) presented the agenda for the NMMT Task Group for this week.


Items of interest since the October 2011 meeting were reviewed in addition to 2012 audit projections, current Auditor status and top nonconformances written against the AC7122 Rev 0.

The above embedded presentation is also posted on eAuditNet under Resources - Documents - Public Documents – Non Metallic Materials Testing – Meeting Presentations.

2.1 Procedure Review – added as an item

Kevin Dowling summarized the procedural changes that affect the supplier base for NMMT.

NOP-006 – Supplier Advisories, NOP-008 – Supplier Merit Program, NOP-011 – Audit Failure Process and new procedure NOP-009 – Suspension and Withdrawal of Accreditation, NTGOP001 and Appendix XIV procedures were reviewed and specific items were highlighted. Please see the attached presentation for details.

All procedures can be found on eAuditNet under Resources - Documents - Nadcap Procedures.All procedures can be found on eAuditNet under Resources - Documents - Nadcap Procedures.

3.0 ACTION ITEM REPORT-OUT – OPEN


February 2011 AI #2 – CLOSED – Laura Benedetti – Add some clarifications in the Auditor Handbook for the uniformity criteria: porosities, parallelism between bonding lines, bonding

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"meniscus" criteria. AC7122/1, 2.19.2.16 - "Is the thickness uniformity of the bond line visually verified?" - Laura requests that a team to work together to deal with this issue. It was discovered that this is much more difficult to define that was first thought. There was a long discussion on how and if this is necessary.

DRAFT AC7122/1, paragraph 2.19.2.6 was revised to read, “Is the uniformity of the bond line visually inspected?”

DRAFT Audit Handbook for AC7122/1, paragraph AH will be revised as follows:

The auditor should discuss with the technician to gauge their understanding of the test. Look at the specimen to visually identify if the bond line is uniform with no anomalies (for example, continuous bond line, no gaps, parallelism, etc).

June 2011 AI #7 - OPEN - PRI - Release the updated AH7122 Rev B handbook including the clarifications in regards to alignment. Also copy the test code tables into the Audit Handbooks.- Almost ready to release. Rebekah to complete the revisions and will release on the 9-Mar-12.

October 2011 AI #1 - CLOSED - PRI - Plan a joint MTL/NMMT meeting for February 2012. - Will be discussed during Agenda Item 8.0

October 2011 AI #2 - OPEN - Mike Bemis and Laura Benedetti - Teams identified to create Core Testing checklist questions shall have the information available for review by the Task Group during the 2012 February Nadcap Meeting. US Team [Mike Bemis (Lead)], European Team [Laura Benedetti (Lead)], Arno Toelkes - Will be discussed during Agenda Item 6.0

October 2011 AI #3 - CLOSED - PRI - PRI ask Subscribing primes and suppliers to go back through the Core test code matrix and verify test codes listed are not based on test requirements that are only used for qualification

October 2011 AI #4 - CLOSED - PRI - Kevin Wetzel from MTL will forward a copy of their alignment presentation for ASTM E1012 to NMMT Staff Engineer for distribution to the Subscribers and Suppliers of the NMMT Task Group.

October 2011 AI #5 - CLOSED - Tara Campbell - Take the rough draft of Elastomeric Materials Testing job audits and “test” it as a material supplier and provide feedback on the acceptability of the questions and job audits. Tara is expecting to be at this supplier around 21 November. - Will be discussed during Agenda Item 5.0

October 2011 AI #6 - CLOSED - Betty Kocsis (Lead) - A sub-team (team members listed below) will be created to revise the current test codes to add the elastomeric specific questions as a “Class C” and to take the questions that the Elastomer Seals Task Group created for the ones associated with the new codes. Report will be at February 2012 Nadcap meeting. - Will be discussed during Agenda Item 5.0

October 2011 AI #7 - CLOSED - PRI - Distribute to the sub-team the Test Standard Matrix from the Elastomer Seals Task Group, the Draft AC7122 documents that were worked on with during this meeting (AC7122/1, /2 and /4) and the questions that the Elastomer Seals Task Group have created. - Emailed on 27OCT11

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October 2011 AI #8 - CLOSED - PRI - Coordinate a joint meeting of the NMMT Task Group and the Elastomer Seals Task Group at the February 2012 Nadcap Meeting. - Will be discussed during Agenda Item 5.0

October 2011 AI #9 - CLOSED - PRI - Ask Frank Mariot what percentage of Primes requirements is necessary to invoke a requirement across the board within the AC7122? This question is related to the requirement for Suppliers accredited to AC7122 to participate in an IPT. - Response was received. If only a single Prime has the requirement this would be a candidate for a supplemental sheet. If more than one define the requirements and they are in sync then the requirements can be incorporated once the task group has approved the addition via majority vote.

4.0 AUDIT HANDBOOK DEVELOPMENT – OPEN

PRI asked the Task Group to think about the Auditor Handbook and if there are areas of concern or confusion that we should create sub-teams to address. We will pick this up whenever an issue is identified.

5.0 JOINT MEETING WITH ELASTOMER SEALS GROUP - DEVELOPMENT OF TESTING CRITERIA FOR ELASTOMER – OPEN

5.1 NOP-005 Cross Commodity Agreements

Rebekah Braun gave a presentation on the subject of Memorandums of Understanding (MOU).

5.2 Joint Meeting with Elastomer Seals Task Group (ESTG) - Development of testing criteria for Elastomers

There were a few questions about the details that needed to be placed in the MOU.

What does NMMT have for Quality Requirement? o AS9100 for part and material manufacturers (AC7122-P and AC7122-R) and ISO 17025

for an independent labs (AC7122-I). How would the audit work?

o ESTG would utilize the AC7122 Base Document and any associated Slash Sheets (AC7122/1, AC7122/2, etc) to audit Elastomeric Testing that is being performed at the Captive Laboratories associated with the Elastomers part manufacturers. The ESTG would manage any resulting NCRs and grant AC7115 and AC7122-P accreditation accordingly.

o NMMT would also use the AC7122 Base Document and any associated Slash Sheets to audit Elastomeric Testing that is being performed at an Independent Test Lab. The NMMT Task Group would manage any resulting NCRs and grant AC7122-I accreditation accordingly.

5.3 Rolls Royce Test of AC7115 and Elastomer Seals Testing Questions

Tara Campbell provided feedback on the Rolls Royce test of the AC7115 and new AC7122 Elastomer Seals Testing questions. Generally speaking, the checklist was sound but a little jumpy in the general section. The testing lab review went well and the questions were leading into the right directions, but there were some disconnects within the standard and the labs procedures. So the testing of the testing questions went very well.

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ACTION ITEM - PRI to provide a copy of AC7122 (base document) to Elastomer Seals group. (Due Date: 2-Mar-12)

ACTION ITEM - Elastomer Seals group to review the sections in AC7122 that are applicable to P - Part Manufacturers Captive Laboratories and identify if there are concerns with applying any of these requirements to Elastomer Seals Suppliers. Also, review the job audit criteria to determine if the requirements are acceptable (i.e. one job audit per slash sheet) (Due Date: 25-Jun-12)

ACTION ITEM - PRI to review the details in the MOU between SEAL and NMMT and make necessary revisions. Share final draft of MOU at June Nadcap meeting. (Due Date: 30-Apr-012)

ACTION ITEM - PRI to add a Training Topic to the October Auditor Training to address the Elastomer specific training to the NMMT Auditors and Base Document AC7122 training to SEALS Auditors. Discuss logistics at June Nadcap meeting. (Due Date: 25-Jun-12)

ACTION ITEM - PRI to revise the AC7122 Slash documents (/1-/5) to identify the new Class materials. What is the next class material (Due Date: 25-Jun-12)

6.0 AC7122 REVISIONS – QUESTION FOR CORE TESTING – OPEN

Two sub-teams were created during the October 2011 Nadcap meeting. One team was tasked to focus on US standards and another team was tasked to focus on European standards.

Mike Bemis presented the data for the United States team.

Laura Benedetti stated that there are no EN standards being used for core testing. There are country specific standards, so the question is should we include the country standards. Arno Toelkes will review the questions that Mike Bemis presents to see if there is anything in the checklists which are not noted within the differing country specifications.

There were 7 ASTM Test Standards that were identified for Core Batch Testing.The team recommended that two (ASTM C 366 and ASTM C 271) were too simple to warrant creating a new test code.The team found that two (AST C 297 and ASTM C 393) had existing test codes (1.21.1 and 1.22.1 respectively) and job audits that adequately covered core testing as is.The team recommended that the final three standards (ASTM C 273, ASTM C 363, and ASTM C 364) have Test Codes written and created since there is nothing currently within the checklist.

The suppliers noted that many customer specifications have description of the specimens, but no drawings. The Task Groups needs to think on this issue, and have comments ready during ballots.The discussion was that the term “drawing” could also be a descriptive procedure or templates that are in documented instructions would be an acceptable alternate to a physical drawing.

A question came up as to requirement to labeling of the specimens. The Task Group insisted that each specimen be identified with a unique number. Bob Morrison will be notified of this decision. It is implied that test data should be correlated with the tested specimen, and it is a good industry practice for troubleshooting failure analysis.

Mike Bemis will add a question concerning a test that can be used across commodities to ask if the correct

ACTION ITEM - Mike Bemis to make changes to the AC7122 documents for Core based on the comments that were received during review. (Due Date: 2-Mar-12)

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7.0 OPEN DISCUSSIONS – OPEN

7.1 Annual Update of NOP-011 Mode B Failure Criteria: NMMT

The Failure Criteria was reviewed and discussed. The Task Group voted and chose to keep the 2012 Audit Failure Criteria the same as 2011 (no changes).

7.2 Can we identify what Subscribing Members the laboratories are performing testing for?

The data is currently listed in each of the Test Code Job Audits; however, there is no central location to list the customers.

ACTION ITEM - PRI to look multiple past year data when considering changes to NOP-011 Failure Mode B criteria. (Due Date: 10-Feb-13)

ACTION ITEM - PRI to create a word document to list the Subscribing Voting Members for AC7118, AC7122 and AC7124. Auditors/Suppliers to use this for each audit to identify which members they do work for. This will be attached by the Auditor to each audit package. (Due Date: 30-Mar-12)

ACTION ITEM - PRI to revise NTGOP-001 Appendix 14 to include the details that the Exova IPT will be accepted in place of the NMMT IPT. (Due Date: 30-Mar-12)

8.0 JOINT MEETING WITH MATERIALS TESTING TASK GROUP - OPEN

Rebekah Braun presented the Joint Meeting Topics.

There was a question concerning if the NMMT Task Group was a sub-group of the COMP Task Group or its own Task Group? NMMT is its own Task Group with its own Voting Roster and Supplier Support.

Are we going to merge MTL and NMMT? Currently there are no plans to do this. PRI is proposing an MOU between the two groups so that we can aid the independent labs to be one audit instead of two. Some Independent Test Labs were concerned with the time it would cost them if one audit could be two weeks total. They do not have the personnel to support this and escort them through the test is a difficult thing to absorb.

Issues that were identified – Oversight of the audit packages; practicality of the audit length; legislative of who owns the documents, difference in accreditation lengths, difference in how the audits are executed (sample of test for every audit for NMMT vs full scope audit every set number of years for MTL). We believe there are common questions that could be removed within an MOU so that there would not be redundancy if two audits were schedules between MTL and NMMT. One objection to the MOU would be if the audits ran simultaneously.

There are currently no auditors trained for both MTL and NMMT audits.

Following is the list of dual certified laboratories within Nadcap.

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Concerns were expressed that there is not enough overlap to consider an MOU between the two groups, and there is a general feeling that this is correct.

ACTION ITEM - PRI poll the laboratories that hold both NMMT and MTL to determine if they see any value in conducting both the MTL and NMMT audit at the same time. (Due Date: 30-Mar-12)

10.0 MEEING CLOSE-OUT - OPEN


One Day for AC7122Staff Report Procedure Review - Revised ProceduresAction Item Report OutAC7122 Ballot Comment Resolution (Inclusion of Core and Elastomers Testing) (joint meeting)SEAL MOU details - finalize (joint meeting)2013 IPT PlanningOpen Discussion

ADJOURNMENT - (22-February-2012) - The Non Metallic Materials Testing (AC7122) portion of the meeting was adjourned at 12:00 p.m.

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1.0 OPENING COMMENTS FOR NMMM – OPEN

1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check

The Non Metallic Materials Manufacturing (NMMM) Task Group was called to order at 1:15 PM, 23-Feb-2012


A quorum of 13 Subscribing Voting members was established with the representatives in attendance listed above.

1.2 Code of Ethics and Conflict of Information Policy was presented for all Nadcap attendees. This information is also available in the Nadcap Attendees Guide.



The Staff Engineer (Rebekah Braun) presented the agenda for the NMMM Task Group for this week.


Items of interest since the October 2011 meeting were reviewed in addition to 2012 audit projections, current Auditor status and an update on any Mandates/Intent to Mandate.

The above embedded presentation is also posted on eAuditNet under Resources - Documents - Public Documents – Non Metallic Materials Manufacturing – Meeting Presentations.

3.0 ACTION ITEM REPORT OUT - OPEN


June 2011 AI #4 – OPEN – PRI – Circulate the shipping condition verbiage to Subscribing Voting Members and request feedback on the proposed verbiage. - 14SEPT11 - Shipping Condition verbiage not yet received from Cytec representative.

October 2011 AI #1 - CLOSED - Team Leads - Teams identified to create checklist questions shall have the information available for review by the Task Group during the 2012 February Nadcap Meeting. Metallic Core Team Members: Lance Loeks, Keith Panuska, Kevin Dowling, Bob Morrison Non Metallic Core Team Members: Pete Atwell, Brett Hemingway, Arno Toelkes, Laura Benedetti - Will be discussed during Agenda Item 4.0

4.0 AC7124 REVISIONS – QUESTIONS FOR CORE MANUFACTURING – OPEN

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Two sub-teams were created during the October 2011 Nadcap meeting. One team was tasked to focus on Metallic Core Manufacturing and another team was tasked to focus on Non Metallic Core Manufacturing.

The Task Group proceeded to compare the feedback from the two teams and the associated two written checklist for commonality within the receiving inspection portion of the job audit. The two audit checklists were collated and the questions reviewed and combined from a global review perspective. The document will have to be reviewed to verify question consistency and redundancies.

Task Group agreed that if the supplier has AC7118 approval and the same materials were covered in Receiving in AC7118 as would the new Core Manufacturing slash sheet for AC7124, then those receiving quality control sections for the core materials can be N/A.

ACTION ITEM - PRI to clean up the AC7124 documents and circulate to the Supplier and Subscriber Voting Members for review. Include a document so that comments can be collected and returned. (Due Date: 30-Mar-12)

ACTION ITEM - Supplier and Subscriber Voting Members to review the AC7124 for content and flow and provide feedback on any necessary revisions. (Due Date: 15-Jun-12)

ACTION ITEM: Bob Morrison, Arno Toelkes and Lance Loeks to review the AC7124, Job Audit for Corregating, Slotting, Perforation and create more detailed questions. (Due Date: 15-Jun-12)

5.0 OPEN DISCUSSION - OPEN

No items were brought forward for Open Discussion.

6.0 MEETING CLOSE-OUT


One Day for AC7124

Staff Report Procedure Review - Revised ProceduresAction Item Report OutResults of the test of the AC7124-4 Core checklistAC7124 - Core Manufacturing Comment Review and ResolutionResults of AC7122-R/AC7124 Observation Audit - Feedback on the adequacy of the grading criteria.Open Discussion

ADJOURNMENT – (23-February-2012) – The Non Metallic Materials (AC7124) portion of the meeting was adjourned at 3:30 p.m.

Minutes Prepared by:

John Key ([email protected])Keith Panuska ([email protected])Rebekah Braun ([email protected])

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