MATERIALS TESTING

MEETING MINUTESAPRIL 21-22, 2004

MAEVA HOTELTOULOUSE, FRANCE

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the task group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the task group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

WEDNESDAY APRIL 21, 2004 (P.M. SESSION)

1.0OPENING COMMENTS

1.1 Call to Order/Quorum Check

The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Keith Kastner. A quorum of Primes was present; a quorum of Supplier Voting Members was not present.

1.2 Introductions were made by all attendees.

1.3 Attendance

An attendance roster was distributed for all to sign. The following attendance list includes all present during the open meetings on Wednesday (04/21) and Thursday (04/22).

Keith Kastner CessnaJason Jackson Vought AircraftLarry Casillas HoneywellZdenek Sitar Honeywell (Czech Republic)Mark Hermes HoneywellNeil Clarke Rolls-Royce plcFran Azzarto GE Aircraft EnginesAndreas Mastorakis GE Aircraft EnginesMehmet Demir GE Aircraft EnginesEmilio Lopez-Vioriero Nata AirbusUta Dietrich AirbusFabrice Della Martina AirbusCamille Valmy AirbusMehmet Doner Rolls-Royce AllisonAndy Iesalnieks Rolls-Royce AllisonShen Yeh Northrop GrummanDianna Berube United TechnologiesFrank Lennert The Boeing Company

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Ronald Bodemeijer The Boeing CompanyChristian Schwaminger MTU Aero Engines GmbHBen Clark Eaton AerospaceLaurence Potez SNECMA MoteursGerard Aubert CentechCarl Barrett Timet UK (Witton)Yang Joon Jin Korean AirDavid Kluk NSL Analytical ServicesRoger Ng Sulzer Metco (Canada)Kwan Kyu Park Korean AirNeil Poyner Westmoreland Mechanical Testing & Research Ltd.Tony Reed Goodrich Aero StructuresJames Rossi Westmoreland Mechanical Testing & Research Inc.Michael Rossi Westmoreland Mechanical Testing & Research Inc.Jim Scannell Dickson Testing Edenek Sitar Honeywell (Czech Republich)Jim Stokes PRIGregor Tokarenko Stork FDO B.V.David Yates Alcoa Fastening Systems (France)

Total attendees = 37.

1.3 MINUTES – The January 2004 meeting minutes were not approved, due to a lack of a quorum.

1.4 NACLA ISO/IEC 17025 FREQUENCY

In 2005, the NACLA regulations require that full assessments to the ISO/IEC 17025 requirements must be conducted every two years; or a full assessment must be conducted every five years, with on-site visits required on an annual basis. The Nadcap Task Group Operating Procedure (NTGOP), Appendix 2 (Materials Testing), must be revised to comply with this change in requirements. Discussion concerning the Mutual Recognition Agreement with NACLA ensued, with the issue deferred to Closed Session for further discussion.

1.5 HARDNESS TESTING CHANGES/ISSUES

Bob Ellis of the David Ellis Company gave a presentation regarding the changes introduced to ASTM E 18-03 for Rockwell Hardness testing. There will be additional changes to this document this year. Over the last several years,

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changes have included the requirements for manufacturers of test blocks to state uncertainties, allowing the use of carbide balls while requiring proper identification of type, not mixing the use of carbide balls, blocks not certified with carbide balls, and requiring the certification of test equipment by loading parameters rather than blocks. The last item will result in improved confidence of results, but will cause the elimination of older machines. The PowerPoint presentation is attached as Attachment 1 of the minutes.

THURSDAY, APRIL 22, 2004 (OPEN SESSION)

2.0OPENING COMMENTS

2.1 Call to Order/Quorum Check

The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Keith Kastner.

2.2 Introductions were made by all attendees.

2.3 Attendance (see Wednesday, April 21, 2004)

2.4 TASK GROUP OPERATION

The Staff Engineer, David Luoni, presented information regarding the general operation of the Nadcap accreditation program, specific to the Materials Testing Task Group. This included information regarding business meetings, audit report review, the controlling documents – SAE AS7101 and NTGOP-001, Appendix II; and the eAuditNet process. This presentation is attached as Attachment 2.

2.5 NADCAP IPT STATUS

Discussion concerning the 4th quarter summary and the upcoming round of testing. The next round was delayed slightly to complete the testing of the on-line registration and data submittal process through eAuditnet. The next round of testing will be handled electronically.

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Honeywell will supply a set of qualified metallographic specimens to address metallographic Round Robin concerns for an upcoming round of testing.

The GE representative requested that time on the July agenda be reserved for discussion of an alternate methodology to the IPT program. A presentation describing a program GE, SNECMA and Airbus have established with Centech Laboratories (France) and Dirats Laboratories(US) will be made. Two hours will be reserved on the agenda for the presentation and questions/answers.

ACTION ITEM: GE representative will supply an executive summary to the Staff Engineer for distribution prior to the July meeting.

2.5 NON-METALLICS/COMPOSITES REQUIREMENTS

15.1.4 A review of all work accomplished by the subteam at the March 11-12, 2004 meeting in long Beach, CA at the Boeing facility. A copy of the AS7101 draft document, based on the changes agreed to by the subteam, was provided. This document is available as Attachment 3. The next subteam meeting is scheduled for May 20-21, 2004 at the Boeing facility in Long Beach, CA. Two and a half days are to be added to the agenda and the end of the week for the July meeting to continue the work on the document by the subteam and any interested participants.

2.6 AECMA-PRO/ PRI AGREEMENT

Arshad Hafeez, the program director of Industry Managed Programs for PRI, gave a brief presentation concerning the agreement the was signed between AECMA-PRO and PRI . A presentation was also made at the Nadcap Management Council meeting concerning the agreement. Fluorescent Penetrant Inspection and Heat Treating are the two processes currently being reviewed.

2.7 ADJOURNMENT

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