ukedchat archive 21 october 2010
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ianaddison 20:00#ukedchat tonight's topic 'How to get 'behind the times' schools
ahead...and FAST!'
ianaddison 20:00 Ok...you ready? here goes...#ukedchat
ukedchat 20:01
It's 8pm - Join @ianaddison and others NOW discussing "How to get
'behind the times' schools, ahead...and FAST! " Remember the
#ukedchat tag
MissSMitch 20:01 what do we mean by behind the times? #ukedchat
MissSMitch 20:02 @ianaddison thanks! #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:02 #ukedchat Need to find positive wizards to lead the changes
deerwood 20:02How can a school tell if it's 'behind the times' and how can we
demonstrate that to them? #ukedchat
dughall 20:02I'm #ukedchat ting for the next hour. "How to get 'behind the times'
schools, ahead...and FAST! "
TheHeadsOffice 20:02#ukedchat THe key is to show them what 'good' looks like using their
staff & pupils
ianaddison 20:02RT @MissSMitch: what do we mean by behind the times? #ukedchat
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TheHeadsOffice 20:03#ukedchat Behing the times does not only mean techy believe me!
When you have dinosaurs on the staff you sch is BTT!
jimbo9848 20:04#ukedchat start an organisation to bring them up to speed. It could
be called BACTA or something similar.
chrismayoh 20:04 Already 4 mins behind. No chance of catching up now! #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:04
visited a school this week where the head had worked there since she
was TA & only place she'd ever worked, didn't seem good to me
#ukedchat
ianaddison 20:04RT @squiggle7: even if you show them many are still very reluctant
to change the way they've always done things #ukedchat
didactylos 20:04
#ukedchat the Demolition Govt may well feel the 'behind the times
schools' are in fact not a problem. Gove doesn't like progressive ideas
JfB57 20:04#ukedchat I suspect if they are BTT their results are not going to be at
the top@deerwood
dughall 20:04 @ianaddison So, does techy = good? #ukedchat
AdiNotNow 20:04#ukedchat What we really need to know is why are they less techy -
money staff infrastructure?
JfB57 20:05@squiggle7 #ukedchat Hence the need for positive wizards plus the
children. Once they have the idea they can lead reluctant staff!
didactylos 20:05#ukedchat behind the times to me is not paying any attention to all
the learning theory we have got that we did not have 20 years ago
missbrownsword 20:05@Laura_987 no she was described by someone I know who works
there as 'not very forward thinking' #ukedchat
deerwood 20:05 @didactylos many schools may also feel the same way #ukedchat canwe convince them otherwise?
cleverfiend 20:05
There is a balance to be struck between not moving with the times
and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes along!
#ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:05are schools 'behind the times'? in many ways schools are leading the
times in tolerance and cultural awareness #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:06@JfB57 but many schools don't have the positive wizards to lead.
#ukedchat
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dughall 20:06 @janwebb21 You got it Jan :-) #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:06Surely being 'with the times' is to be able to select an appropriate set
of tools to do the job at hand. Tech or no tech #ukedchat
deerwood 20:06@didactylos but Roger, there are people who believe that many of
our learning theories are incorrect #ukedchat
innerquest 20:06perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god called
technology, maybe WE should take a step back? #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:06if it's merely tech, then the answer is never to be static. we need tech
that upgrades with us, #ukedchat
ICanTeach_uk 20:06
Let's face it anyone using #ukedchat is clearly ahead of the times -
however those 'not' on twitter are not necessarily behind the times
dughall 20:06 @jimbo9848 BACTA LOL :-) #ukedchat
chrisrat 20:06RT @ianaddison: RT @MissSMitch: what do we mean by behind the
times? #ukedchat
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chrismayoh 20:07
RT @cleverfiend: There is a balance to be struck between not moving
with the times and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes
along! #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:07
RT @cleverfiend: There is a balance to be struck between not moving
with the times and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes
along! #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:07Lol > > RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat start an organisation to bring
them up to speed. It could be called BACTA or something similar.
MissSMitch 20:07@innerquest I agree tech should enhance good practice not replace it
#ukedchat
AdiNotNow 20:07#ukedchat I think to become more techy, a staff need inspired
leadership. Show them the value of tech and get them onboard.
john_at_muuua 20:07
just having tech does not keep us ahead. having partners that keep us
ahead is what matters #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:07Some staff so used to seeing things go full circle, initiative after
initiative, they think 'going techy' is just the same #ukedchat
didactylos 20:07#ukedchat you can be very techy and still behind the times, depends
how you measure things
duckinwales 20:08
RT @SusanElkinJourn: @cleverfiend #ukedchat It all goes round &
round though. If you teach 40 yrs & don't change you'll be right three
times - it's said.
TheHeadsOffice 20:08
RT @innerquest: perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god
called technology, maybe WE should take a step back? #ukedchat >Or
pause
deerwood 20:08 @squiggle7 @JfB57 I don't charge a lot! #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:08@ICanTeach_uk possiblly. but how long before twitter is last year's
myspace? #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:08 RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat start an organisation to bring them up tospeed. It could be called BACTA or something similar.
ianaddison 20:08RT @innerquest: perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god
called technology, maybe WE should take a step back? #ukedchat
deerwood 20:08 @didactylos fair point #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:08
RT @ICanTeach_uk: Lanyone using #ukedchat is clearly ahead of the
times -however those 'not' on twitter are not necessarily behind the
times
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dughall 20:08
RT @ICanTeach_uk: Let's face it anyone using #ukedchat is clearly
ahead of the times - however those 'not' on twitter are not
necessarily behind the times
SusanElkinJourn 20:08@cleverfiend #ukedchat It all goes round & round though. If you
teach 40 yrs & don't change you'll be right three times - it's said.
duckinwales 20:08@squiggle7 @JfB57 you need a condusive environment to start with.
#ukedchat
janwebb21 20:08 @dughall didn't think it sounded like you!!! #ukedchat
didactylos 20:08@deerwood #ukedchat don't mind if there's a debate about it, its
where people are still in a time warp that the problem lies
chrisrat 20:08
RT @TeachersTV Host Krishnsn is asking the panelists what changes
will mean for teachers #TTVdebate That's where things like teachmeets
come in
didactylos 20:09RT @chrismayoh: Surely being 'with the times' is to be able to select
an appt set of tools to do the job at hand. Tech or no tech #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:09@cleverfiend absolutely - measured approach where one/two try
something out then feed on is important #ukedchat
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AdiNotNow 20:10 @chrismayoh #ukedchat hear hear!
squiggle7 20:10@JfB57 I didn't hear of teachmeets until I started using twitter
#ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:10indeed RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help you
teach better. Not a teaching method or replacement for teaching.
SusanElkinJourn 20:10#ukedchat More than tech I worry abut teacher attitude - them and
us, put downs etc. That's what we need to change.
TheHeadsOffice 20:10RT @ianaddison: outstanding is all about sats levels, we got great
results, we're outstanding #ukedchat >Not in my experience
ianaddison 20:10
RT @SusanElkinJourn: @cleverfiend #ukedchat It all goes round &
round though. If you teach 40 yrs & don't change you'll be right threetimes
john_at_muuua 20:10@TheHeadsOffice @innerquest agree. it's the people that keep us
ahead, no the medium #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:10@dughall depends on inspector. at my old school he said i'd love to
give you good/outstanding, but can't cos of results #ukedchat
xovation 20:10
RT @cleverfiend: There is a balance to be struck between not moving
with the times and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes
along! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:10
RT @chrismayoh: Surely being 'with the times' is to be able to select
an appropriate set of tools to do the job at hand. Tech or no tech
#ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:11RT @ianaddison: @TeachersTV you want to know what teachers
think? join #ukedchat every thursday at 8pm. #ttvdebate
DrAshCasey 20:11
#ukedchat does innovation breed contempt? We have to convince
teachers not schools to be innovative otherwise it can be a flash in
the pan
janwebb21 20:11 @SkoorBttaM can see some inititatives that have been tweaked sincetheir original intro (and falling by the wayside) #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:11 keeping ahead is not as important as leading the way. #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:11RT @duckinwales: @squiggle7 @JfB57 you need a condusive
environment to start with. #ukedchat >Appointing right HT vital
dughall 20:11@ianaddison Did he really mean 'results' though? Or maybe CVA or
progress? Anyway, that's another topic... #ukedchat
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janwebb21 20:11
@SkoorBttaM I think what sometimes gets forgotten is that
sometimes full circle is more of a spiral /BUILDING on previous
success #ukedchat
cleverfiend 20:11
@SusanElkinJourn I've started to notice the cycle after 16 years in
education :) I would hope each cycle gets refined and improved
#ukedchat
didactylos 20:11#ukedchat I have to constantly change how i do things in my job andstand up and show how I do it. Some eaehcers have not moved in a
decade.
AdiNotNow 20:12#ukedchat behind the times schools need STRONG leadership with
vision. Not a satisfaction with the satus quo.
deerwood 20:12
RT @dughall: RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help
you teach better. Not a teaching method or replacement for
teaching. < No
DrAshCasey 20:12
RT @john_at_muuua: keeping ahead is not as important as leading
the way. #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:12 @TheHeadsOffice HT makes so much difference I agree! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:12@SkoorBttaM perhaps it's the fine tuning when we go full circle that
needs more attention than doing what we did 1st time #ukedchat
duckinwales 20:12@squiggle7 @JfB57 #ukedchat - me too, have just put #tmhhs on my
annual CPD log - let's see if it raises any eyebrows/questions!
missbrownsword 20:12outstanding SEN schools don't fit this RT @ianaddison: outstanding all
about sats levels, we got great results, we're outstanding #ukedchat
dughall 20:12RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help you teach
better. Not a teaching method or replacement for teaching.
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john_at_muuua 20:13my best teaching experience was in a Sri Lankan village. no electricity,
but completely socially aware and 'ahead of the times' #ukedchat
deerwood 20:13RT @deerwood: RT @dughall: RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech
is a tool for learning
didactylos 20:13#ukedchat the 'mantra' we don't have time is a killer - its similar to I
don't have time to tidy my room - the payoff is easier if tidy
ianaddison 20:13@didactylos very good point, but why are some teachers not moving
with the times? are they too busy to re-learn? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:14
RT @TheHeadsOffice: How many here were fired up by this forum?
Were you all born IT obsessed?I suspect not so how did you get
here?#ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:14
RT @john_at_muuua: keeping ahead is not as important as leading
the way. #ukedchat >Absolutely!
janwebb21 20:14
RT @TheHeadsOffice: RT @squiggle7: @JfB57 I didn't hear of
teachmeets until I started using twitter #ukedchat >See my next
couple of tweets!
carolrainbow 20:14
@john_at_muuua @TheHeadsOffice @innerquest #ukedchat
Stepping back from the tech will not necessarily engage pupils who
use it all the time
SusanElkinJourn 20:14#ukedchat Is the Innovation Unit still going at DFS or has it fallen to
the axe?
greyengine 20:14RT @AdiNotNow: #ukedchat behind the times schools need STRONG
leadership with vision. Not a satisfaction with the satus quo.
janwebb21 20:14@ianaddison @didactylos managing the change is SO important but
some changes challenge pedagogies #ukedchat
cleverfiend 20:14
@missbrownsword We are an outstanding SEN school - and still
needed to get outstanding results - not sats but FFT/ CVA etc
#ukedchat
didactylos 20:14 @ianaddison#ukedchat part is the crappy CPD model we havepersisted with and they have come to expect
TheHeadsOffice 20:14RT @squiggle7: @JfB57 I didn't hear of teachmeets until I started
using twitter #ukedchat >See my next couple of tweets!
janwebb21 20:15
RT @colport: @ianaddison I see that teaching is a continuous
personal learning journey for me - I owe it to the pupils I teach
#ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:15@carolrainbow @TheHeadsOffice @innerquest. Not 'stepping back',
but giving context and depth that does not need tech #ukedchat
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Laura_987 20:15@missbrownsword Ah right. I can imagine she's quite stuck in her
ways. #ukedchat
didactylos 20:15#ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of idealism and
interest and have the system bash it out of them?
Catriona_O 20:15@DrAshCasey isolation is the enemy of improvement andit breeds contempt. WE need to talk to each other - simples!
#ukedchat
deerwood 20:15@didactylos: @ianaddison #ukedchat changing the CPD model could
be key to bringing schools forward #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:15RT @didactylos: @ianaddison#ukedchat part is the crappy CPD model
we have persisted with and they have come to expect
colport 20:15
@ianaddison I see that teaching is a continuous personal learning
journey for me - I owe it to the pupils I teach #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:16RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of
idealism and interest and have the system bash it out of them?
chrismayoh 20:16Isn't accountability a big part of this debate? Why's it so difficult to
get rid of staff who deliberately combat positive change? #ukedchat
deerwood 20:16@stevebob79 @dughall @ianaddison is that in terms of using ICT or
provision (or both)? #ukedchat
lisacov19 20:16#Ukedchat the way to move forward is to utilise all ideas that are
available & what better way to share ideas than through multimedia?
didactylos 20:16@janwebb21#ukedchat and sometimes challenge the status quo at a
very deep level
janwebb21 20:16 @ianaddison @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat by playing catchup!
dughall 20:16
Moving is uncomfortable. As is change. But, as @mister_jim
reminded us @ #tmx without change, there would be no butterflies.#ukedchat
cleverfiend 20:16
RT @Catriona_O: @DrAshCasey isolation is the enemy of
improvement and it breeds contempt. WE need to talk to
each other - simples! #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:16RT @missbrownsword: outstanding SEN schools & nurseries don't fit
with tests ideology @ianaddison: #ukedchat
duckinwales 20:16#ukedchat Were you all born IT obsessed? I suspect not so how did
you get here? @TheHeadsOffice
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ianaddison 20:16
RT @colport: @ianaddison I see that teaching is a continuous
personal learning journey for me - I owe it to the pupils I teach
#ukedchat
ianaddison 20:16totally agree with @didactylos about CPD, how much CPD have you
had that has inspired you? (not inc teachmeets) #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:17Yup > >RT @AdiNotNow: #ukedchat behind the times schools need
STRONG leadership with vision. Not a satisfaction with the satus quo.
dughall 20:17@stevebob79 Sadly so do I. Maybe OFSTED might not always be the
best judges of what is outstanding #personalopinion #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:17@ianaddison @TheHeadsOffice sadly i probably was born a tech
head, but chose the arts because the tech was easy.#ukedchat
squiggle7 20:17
with CPD, especially tech, needs to be drip fed and followed up. So
much CPD not passed on/given support to implement #ukedchat
didactylos 20:17#ukedchat have blogged about this - drew analogy with doctors and
would we tolerate them not keeping up to date?
DrAshCasey 20:17@Catriona_O but we need to do that as teachers within schools not
as schools with teachers. #ukedchat teachers maintain change
Catriona_O 20:18@DrAshCasey couldn't agree more. Therein the power to effect
meanigful change lies.....#ukedchat
janwebb21 20:18
@didactylos it's very unsettling at so many lessons when we are
challenged to change the WAY we teach - values/emotions difficult
#ukedchat
ianaddison 20:18RT @didactylos: #ukedchat have blogged about this - drew analogy
with doctors and would we tolerate them not keeping up to date?
DrAshCasey 20:18@deerwood @stevebob79 @dughall @ianaddison I don't believe
that ICT means innovation but innovation can use ICT #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:18
RT @dughall: Moving is uncomfortable. As is change. But, as
@mister_jim says without change, there would be no butterflies.#ukedchat
duckinwales 20:18RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of
idealism and interest and have the system bash it out of them?
AdiNotNow 20:18
#ukedchat An alternative to getting these schools on track. Make
them use them for their CPD and all training so they see what
potential...
colport 20:19@didactylos Absolutely. This is one of the reasons why teaching is not
seen as professional. We should continue our learning #ukedchat
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jessamacookie 20:19@ianaddison feels like that and I haven't even been lucky enough to
get a FT job! #ukedchat (sorry down as lost out at another interview)
dughall 20:19RT @didactylos: #ukedchat have blogged about this - drew analogy
with doctors and would we tolerate them not keeping up to date?
SusanElkinJourn 20:19@cleverfiend Yes - similar but not identical cycles of change, with
continuous improvement. #ukedchat
Nevagonnabslim 20:19#ukedchat who believes in latest fad of large open learning spaces
with two or three lessons goin on
lisacov19 20:19#Ukedchat keeping up to date is about being reflective of where we
are & what we are doing, looking at where http://tl.gd/6jc34l
squiggle7 20:19
@TheHeadsOffice I have no idea how I got into tech, just kinda
happened! #ukedchat
dughall 20:19Leadership is *essential* without SMT buy-in, change & movement is
nigh on impossible #ukedchat
AdiNotNow 20:19#ukedchat ...that technology would have for the children. They may
even keep up with them!!!
john_at_muuua 20:19
RT @DrAshCasey: @Catriona_O but we need to do that as teachers
within schools not as schools with teachers. #ukedchat teachers
maintain change
NickiA10 20:19@ianaddison Is it just the system that bashes it out of people or the
endless admin? #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:19It is often untrue true that people don't have time to do things. It's
that they have chosen not to prioritise them #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:19RT @DrAshCasey: I don't believe that ICT means innovation but
innovation can use ICT #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:19
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of
idealism & interest &have the system bash it out of them? >Some notall
SkoorBttaM 20:19It all goes round & round though. If you teach 40 yrs & don't change
you'll be right three times- it's said RT @AdiNotNow: #ukedchat behind the
times schools need STRONG leadership with vision. Not a satisfaction
with the satus quo.
didactylos 20:19@duckinwales #ukedchat often by a chance 'seeing' of a process or
idea and 'pinching it' to adopt to my own work
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mr_chadwick 20:19
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teachers come into the job full of
idealism and have the system bash it out of them? < not the good
ones.
ianaddison 20:20
RT @chrismayoh: It is often untrue true that people don't have time
to do things.It's that they have chosen not to prioritise them
#ukedchat
didactylos 20:20#ukedchat I've loads of creative energy and enthusiasm after 35 years
- but don't mark work, don't write reports, don't do the school 'clag'
john_at_muuua 20:20we really are in danger of confusing the medium and the message
#ukedchat
Arakwai 20:20
@DrAshCasey @catriona_o To be effective surely individuals need
the support of a whole school culture promoting innovation ?
#ukedchat
innerquest 20:20
Is it teacher recruitment or the consultants whr we need to root out
the "unbelievers" in technology 4 learning? ive met a few! #ukedchat
stevebob79 20:20@DrAshCasey I agree. But school I'm thinking had little ict therefore
not delivering curriculum so should not be 'outstanding' #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:20
@AdiNotNow what to say to a group of teachers who want to
develop use of ict and need to see the potential? big pic or baby
steps? #ukedchat
ICanTeach_uk 20:20
#ukedchat unconsciously incompetent to consciously incompetent to
consciously competent to unconsciously competent - this is about
CPD
ianaddison 20:20Ok, so what do we do about it? Let's start with our school. How can
we get the teachers to be more 'up with it'? #ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:20
@didactylos but we make CPD look like staying up to date &
encourage tradition. Need to change CPD 2 help those behind to
catch up #ukedchat
JfB57 20:20
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat have blogged about this - drew analogy
with doctors and would we tolerate them not keeping up to date?
>Excellent
duckinwales 20:20 Staff come to me for CPD when a) they see what I do and want to usethe same b) they understand it will save them time. #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:21RT @squiggle7: I have no idea how I got into tech, just kinda
happened! #ukedchat >I bet there was a positive wizard somewhere!
janwebb21 20:21@JfB57 different approaches - carrot/stick, make them feel bad or
encouragement/support/modelling #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:21RT @john_at_muuua: keeping ahead is not as important as leading
the way. #ukedchat
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AdiNotNow 20:21 @ianaddison #ukedchat non pupil day online?
didactylos 20:21 #ukedchat wonder if there's some correlation?
colport 20:21It has to be a pretty dire place where all the staff, + whole school, are
'behind the times'! Surely there are pockets of change? #ukedchat
MissSMitch 20:22RT @didactylos: @drashcasey #ukedchat I'd argue for a personalised
learning CPD as opposed to whole school 'soakings'
stevebob79 20:22#ukedchat ...but also needs direction from the top and 'stick' used
along with the 'carrot'
innerquest 20:22
You can either put policies in place to stop people not doing it, or cpd
people to be better, both would be needed #ukedchat
duckinwales 20:22 #ukedchat @ianaddison lead by example.
dughall 20:22
@ianaddison Teachers generally buy into learning. If you can show
them impact on learners, that often works. (*you* know that ;-))
#ukedchat
caroljallen 20:22
@didactylos #ukedchat I get told that teachers are too old to get to
grips with technology - I top trump them on age and say get on with
it!
didactylos 20:22@drashcasey #ukedchat I'd argue for a personalised learning CPD as
opposed to whole school 'soakings'
john_at_muuua 20:22we educate. we are not tech salespersons. knowledge has no
operating system. #ukedchat
stevebob79 20:22#ukedchat need to start by those leading demonstrating outcomes/
advantages and inspiring people to join the ride
SusanElkinJourn 20:23 @john_at_muuua Education is learning to think for yourself. Trainingis doing what others tell you. #ukedchat
JfB57 20:23@janwebb21 You have the big picture & break it into baby steps!
#ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:23@ianaddison I have got other teachers at school doing things
differently because 'can we do what Miss B's class do?' #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:23@colport I think if the head is behind the times it is easy for the staff
not to bother! (Especially a school with older staff ;-) #ukedchat
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john_at_muuua 20:23@didactylos @drashcasey totally agree. CPD should be much more
differentiated#ukedchat
Paddymcgrath 20:23#ukedchat are we talking about tech or behind the times in how we
treat young people
mdpkeenan 20:23#ukedchat all this self congratulatory back slapping navel gazing look
how good we are at ict - pointless because no "dinosaurs" watching
ianaddison 20:23RT @caroljallen: #ukedchat I get told that teachers are too old to get
to grips with technology -I trump them on age and say get on with it!
didactylos 20:23@colport #ukedchat in 2ndry pockets of change are no use re the
whole curriculum experience for the learner
SusanElkinJourn 20:23
RT @didactylos: @drashcasey #ukedchat I'd argue for a personalised
learning CPD as opposed to whole school 'soakings'
Catriona_O 20:23
@DrAshCasey not sure about that. Working to a deficit model? Much
prefer the developmental one we use - 4stage
http://bit.ly/bFvMx5#ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:23@ianaddison If necessary it has to be part of PM to get them started
#ukedchat
squiggle7 20:23@TheHeadsOffice not at school, I think I picked it up along the way
and enjoyed using it. #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:24@skoorBttaM certainly true about current situation #ukedchat -
babies being thrown out with bathwater
dughall 20:24RT @TheHeadsOffice: @ianaddison If necessary it has to be part of
PM to get them started #ukedchat
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caroljallen 20:24
@didactylos #ukedchat fully agree, even topics that are CPD for all
should not be delivered en masse! Personalise and respect learning
need
drtimony 20:24RT @john_at_muuua: we educate. we are not tech salespersons.
knowledge has no operating system. #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:24RT @missbrownsword: @ianaddison I got other teachers at schooldoing things differently because'can we do what Miss B's class do?'
#ukedchat
squiggle7 20:24RT @didactylos: @drashcasey #ukedchat I'd argue for a personalised
learning CPD ... < def should be differentiated #ukedchat
didactylos 20:24@caroljallen#ukedchat agree fully , and respectfully point out I can
top trump you!
kishtiaq 20:24
RT @john_at_muuua: we educate. we are not tech salespersons.
knowledge has no operating system. #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:24RT @Paddymcgrath: #ukedchat are we talking about tech or behind
the times in how we treat young people
Catriona_O 20:25
@DrAshCasey maybe it's not all up to the teachers? pupil lead
learning - like http://bit.ly/anRLbk might help move everyone
on?#ukedchat
Paddymcgrath 20:25RT @SusanElkinJourn: @john_at_muuua Education is learning to
think for yourself. Training is doing what others tell you. #ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:25@ianaddison we need teachers to look ahead and not have to look at
their feet to make sure they don't trip #ukedchat
deerwood 20:25@didactylos hmm, personalised learning CPD ... do you mind if I use
that phrase? #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:25 @colport Your pockets my positive wizards! #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:25 @mdpkeenan but we're trying to discuss ways to help the 'dinosaurs',what do you suggest? #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:25RT @SusanElkinJourn: @john_at_muuua Education is learning to
think for yourself. Training is doing what others tell you. #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:25 @SusanElkinJourn thank you! well said! :-) #ukedchat
stevebob79 20:25RT @dughall Teachers generally buy into learning. If you can show
them impact on learners, that often works. #ukedchat
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janwebb21 20:26RT @dughall: @mdpkeenan Should we show #ukedchat to the
dinosaurs then? And. Explain. It. Very. Slowly?
deerwood 20:26@didactylos @caroljallen don't you two start arguing, you're both
inspirational #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:26RT @duckinwales: #ukedchat @ianaddison lead by example >There
are enough great things here to have those in abundance!
janwebb21 20:26@JfB57 I agree but some find the whole big picture extremely
scary!!! #ukedchat
dughall 20:26
RT @missbrownsword:I have got other teachers at school doing
things differently because 'can we do what Miss B's class do?'
#ukedchat
TeacherToolkit 20:26
Are you all taking part in the #TTVDebate? If not, shame on you!
#ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:26
@stevebob79 Are we defining innovation and good practice by ICT? I
think as teachers we can look beyond that...horses for courses
#ukedchat
sciencelabman 20:26@missbrownsword the kids i teach are my best ambassadors, they
ask other teachers if we can.... do what mr Pratts class do.#ukedchat
andyjb 20:26@dughall #ukedchat agreed without smt buy widespread
organisational change doesnt happen
duckinwales 20:26RT @mr_chadwick @ianaddison Have to be good example/role
model. Then they'll come to you. #ukedchat
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didactylos 20:27@theheadsoffice #ukedchat certainly they can benefit from tech to
work smarter, though some like 'gate duty' etc is still a pain for staff
andyjb 20:27teaching and learning individual practise maybe different #ukedchat
but have to be convinced on within school transfer
DrAshCasey 20:27@Arakwai @catriona_o I don't think you need it to be effective in
your classroom but top down CPD is not effective... #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:27@chrismayoh If what you're doing isn't recognised as 'positive'
change then should it be as easy to get rid of you? #ukedchat
ZoeRoss19 20:27little & often helps- easy & effective tech-tip at end of newsletter,
persuading SMT to give over bit of INSET for sharing etc #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:27
RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison we need teachers to look ahead and
not have to look at their feet to make sure they don't trip #ukedchat
SusanElkinJourn 20:27
RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison we need to give them time to breath.
Teachers who rush don't have time to look around at see the
alternatives. #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:27
RT @Catriona_O: @DrAshCasey maybe it's not all up to the teachers?
pupil lead learning - like http://bit.ly/anRLbk might help move
everyone on?#ukedchat
lisacov19 20:27
RT @dughall Teachers generally buy into learning. If you can show
them impact on learners, that often works. #ukedchat our starting
point
kishtiaq 20:27#ukedchat educators have a wide variety of tools abd tech is one
such tool. The best teachers use basic tools and this may not be tech
caroljallen 20:27
@ianaddison #ukedchat start by respecting their fear, then show
them the way forward in achieveable steps rather than showing an
end point
chrismayoh 20:28 @skoorBttaM Good point. Even consensus is only opinion #ukedchat
colport 20:28 @didactylos Fair comment. I was coming from the perspective of aprimary school #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:28RT @carolrainbow: @colport Easy for sch to play the age card.
#ukedchat Unfair & lost opportunity
stevebob79 20:28@DrAshCasey absoulutely not. It's about the appropriate tool for the
job. One of greatest ICT skills is knowing when not to use it #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:28RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison we need teachers to look ahead and
not have to look at their feet to make sure they don't trip #ukedchat
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ICanTeach_uk 20:28
@john_at_muuua I think Twitter is sustainable but will be
superseded - bound to be something out there for tomorrows
teachers #ukedchat
Olivia_Darlin 20:28
RT @deerwood: How can a school tell if it's 'behind the times' and
how can we demonstrate that to them? #ukedchat
http://ow.ly/19zipv
kishtiaq 20:29 #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy not tech, tech, tech!
mr_chadwick 20:29Keep forgetting hashtag!! Told you I was 'behind the times'
#ukedchat
sellyeve 20:29RT @SkoorBttaM: RT @dughall: Leadership is *essential* without
SMT buy-in, change & movement is nigh on impossible #ukedchat
scholaforis 20:29
@Catriona_O joining late: soz. Agree and think that lot nontech
teachers afraid to show ignorance in front of tech savvie kids
innerquest 20:29Primary & EY - Do U need technology 2 B a successful teacher? Does
a child need techology 2 learn? It's fun, but is it neccessary #ukedchat
colport 20:29
@carolrainbow Agree, but I go back to the motivation of people
teaching in the first place - the pupils. Or at least it should be
#ukedchat
sellyeve 20:29@TheHeadsOffice age is just a number - it's perspective that counts
#ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:29@didactylos yes....hosing everyone down with CPD doesn't make
them change it just makes them annoyed #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:29RT @dughall: Leadership is *essential* without SMT buy-in, change &
movement is nigh on impossible #ukedchat
AdiNotNow 20:29
@ianaddison #ukedchat We have involved reluctsant teachers from
the start with our MLE. still in process of setting up but they're
enthused
Catriona_O 20:29 @DrAshCasey if it's not effective in the classroom it's not effective!#ukedchat
DeputyMitchell 20:29Sorry to cry off #ukedchat this evening, just back in from a LONG day!
Will catch up later when I'm lying wide awake in bed! ;-)
mr_chadwick 20:29
Agree with @missbrownsword Children seeing another class and
wanting to be involved. Have to be horrid teacher not to act then.
#ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:29
RT @stevebob79: @DrAshCasey absoulutely not. It's about the
appropriate tool for the job. One of greatest ICT skills is knowing
when not to use it #ukedchat
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ianaddison 20:29@TeacherToolkit we have our own discussion going on here at
#ukedchat shame on #ttvdebate for not checking their diary!
predacomDom 20:30@lisacov19 How would the use of ICT for T&L ever get proven if to
use it it always has to be proven? #Ukedchat
janwebb21 20:30@caroljallen it's a really fine balance between inspiration and
trepidation #ukedchat
TeacherToolkit 20:30@ianaddison then we should show how talented we all are by
tweeting #ukedchat & #TTVDebate in all our chats = #EduBate
teachersTV 20:30RT @TeacherToolkit: Are you all taking part in the #TTVDebate? If
not, shame on you! #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:30
@ICanTeach_uk i'm not convinced. it's good for us techy aware
people. but put it in front of 'the others' and they go blank.#ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:30
@dughall Wh sch obj for PM means everyone 'suffers' & that helps
those who are reluctant. Shared misery but then lights come on
#ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:30
RT @TheHeadsOffice: @colport Easy for sch to play the age card.
#ukedchat Unfair & lost opportunity - Very unfair on pupils and
unnecessary
didactylos 20:30@colport #ukedchat think its much more effective in a Primary - also
its a smaller org so will have impact - not the silo mentality of 2ndry
jimbo9848 20:30#ukedchat is there a culture in some schools which is deliberately
negative to technology?
ZoeRoss19 20:30One HoD I know insisted his dept complete tasks on computer/use
tech-they hated it & it's not my style at all, but they did it! #ukedchat
dughall 20:30RT @stevebob79: It's about the appropriate tool for the job. One of
greatest ICT skills is knowing when not to use it #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:30 I've started slowly slowly catchy monkey at my school, lead byexample, provide helpsheets too http://bit.ly/cQCy16 #ukedchat
predacomDom 20:31@lisacov19 Experimentation leads to success, but also failure. But
having the confidence to fail always leads to success. #Ukedchat
ianaddison 20:31@TeacherToolkit if i was lurking, i'd try and join in with #ukedchat
and #ttvdebate but i'm moderating one of them!
caroljallen 20:31
@ZoeRoss19 #ukedchat when I started teaching my HOD signed me
up for typing lessons insisting his dept would not produce
handwritten stuff!
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DrAshCasey 20:31@Catriona_O the meaningful use of student voice rather than the
current rhetoric ... like it ... #ukedchat
didactylos 20:31#ukedchat we also live in a culture where experimentation is not in
vogue - where keeping in the shoal is safe re targets and Ofsted
john_at_muuua 20:31@jimbo9848 in many. because schools and management move
slowly and tech doesn't. #ukedchat
dughall 20:31RT @DrAshCasey: @didactylos yes....hosing everyone down with CPD
doesn't make them change it just makes them annoyed #ukedchat
SusanElkinJourn 20:31RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy not tech,
tech, tech!
TheHeadsOffice 20:31
@DrAshCasey THey need the confidence that the HT prepared the
path & that it is safe #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:31@colport Absolutely - the pupils have the right to good quality tech
tools and teaching #ukedchat
colport 20:31RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy not tech,
tech, tech! Don't tell them! As long as the lead
has it
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john_at_muuua 20:32
RT @colport: RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy,
pedagogy not tech, tech, tech! RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat is there a culture in
some schools which is deliberately negative to technology?
ianaddison 20:33
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat we also live in a culture where
experimentation is not in vogue - keeping in the shoal is safe re
targets/Ofsted
TheHeadsOffice 20:33@ianaddison Folk I've talked to about twitter #ukedchat & the sort
of things I get up to here are amazed & want to know more!
dughall 20:33@jimbo9848 I think schools with a whole school anti tech culture are
rare. But again, I say SMT/leaders are influential here. #ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:33 RT @Catriona_O: @DrAshCasey if it's not effective in the classroomit's not effective! #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:33
RT: I have got other teachers at school doing things differently
because 'can we do what Miss B's class do?' >>>>Pester power!!
#ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:33
RT @stevebob79: @DrAshCasey absoulutely not. It's about the
appropriate tool for the job. One of greatest ICT skills is knowing
when not to use it #ukedchat
caroljallen 20:33@janwebb21 #ukedchat Absolutely - and that is why one size fits all
CPD excites some; supports others; bores some and frightens others!
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ianaddison 20:33@TeachersTV not meant negatively, but #ukedchat is growing and
growing, I'm sure debates on different nights would help in future
didactylos 20:33 @drashcasey #ukedchat and plays to the cynical 'back row'
colport 20:33@SusanElkinJourn I know what you mean. I know younger teacherswho love the QCA schemes for teaching - now that's behind the times
#ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:33I don't think it's about tech tho, things like outdoor learning, forest
schools etc are v forward thinking & totally non-tech #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:34
RT @predacomDom: Experimentation leads to success, but also
failure. But having the confidence to fail always leads to success.
#Ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:34
I still think we're missing an opportunity by not letting the ch lead
more. Just look at the impact all ur class blogs are having #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:34@caroljallen we personalise learning for students - need to do the
same for staff because they aren't all one size #ukedchat
dughall 20:34
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat we also live in a culture where
experimentation is not in vogue - where keeping in the shoal is safe
re targets and Ofsted
DeputyHeadDunn 20:34 Hi all, late tonight!
duckinwales 20:34#ukedchat @missbrownsword very true - that reminds me - where is
@ForesterJo? lost in the woods?
didactylos 20:34@missbrownsword #ukedchat technology - even if a quill pen, is just
a tool for learning, totally agree with you
CHAR0ULA 20:34I think people have to be commited to professional development
otherwise they get stuck no matter where they are #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:35 @DeputyHeadDunn irony...it's about being behind the times tonight!#ukedchat
deerwood 20:35@dughall @jimbo9848 yes I both pity and admire ICT coords working
in a school were HT or SMT are opposed to tech #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:35RT @TheHeadsOffice: Folk I've talked to about twitter #ukedchat &
the sort of things I get up to here are amazed & want to know more!
sellyeve 20:35@dughall isn't that's a choice that you make though...or not?
#ukedchat
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dughall 20:35
RT @missbrownsword: I don't think it's about tech tho, things like
outdoor learning, forest schools etc are v forward thinking & totally
non-tech #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:35How many of you who have set up class blogs haven't had other staff
asking for one too! #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:35RT @didactylos: @missbrownsword #ukedchat technology - even if a
quill pen, is just a tool for learning, totally agree with you
jessamacookie 20:35
@innerquest 80% of time no ict to help in supply work but survive
fine. Its about using tools effectively not jus cos theyre there
#ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:35
@TheHeadsOffice not always. My HT asked me the purpose of PhD
aimed at improving my pupils learning experiences...it helps though
#ukedchat
caroljallen 20:35
@deerwood #ukedchat exactly! ...and perceptive, effective support
at that!
SusanElkinJourn 20:35#ukedchat Are some colleagues so resistant to change & reflective
practice that they really are in the wrong job & should be 'let go'?
ZoeRoss19 20:35@caroljallen Well, ur on here now,so that's pretty fantastic progress!
If time / lessons given, then have less of an issue with it #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:36
@TheHeadsOffice i was asked today if we can have a blog for the
school choir! I don't even know what they'd do with it! cool tho
#ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:36@didactylos I thought they were making out in the back row...?
#ukedchat
janwebb21 20:36@ebd35 I thought I'd better catch up with the new stuff when I did
return to teaching!!! #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:36
@TheHeadsOffice that's why thematic planning with the children is
so effective in some primaries, they can lead & take control
#ukedchat
dughall 20:36
RT @janwebb21: @caroljallen we personalise learning for students -
need to do the same for staff because they aren't all one size#ukedchat
DeputyHeadDunn 20:36 @ianaddison Oh irony indeed! lol #ukedchat
stevebob79 20:36
@missbrownsword agreed. E.g. celebrated reading project on TV
recently with @garethmalone. Lots of innovation, no tech in sight...
#ukedchat
didactylos 20:36RT @theheadsoffice: think we're missing an opp by not letting the ch
ld more. Just lk at the impact all ur class blogs are having #ukedchat
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nellmog 20:37
RT @janwebb21: @caroljallen we personalise learning for students -
need to do the same for staff because they aren't all one size
#ukedchat
lisacov19 20:37@predacomDom #Ukedchat lagree with leadership points but also
need to be able to bite the bullet & lead by example
TheHeadsOffice 20:37RT @colport: RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy,
pedagogy not tech, tech, tech! I remember Piaget!
dughall 20:38@ebd35 You may be a loner. That is my point. The *school* isn't
moving, you are. #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:38
@DeputyHeadDunn i think we're going to make a 'clubs' blog,
otherwise, every club will have one. not sure if good or bad thing?
#ukedchat
ebd35 20:38
RT @colport: It has to be a pretty dire place where all the staff, +
whole school, are 'behind the times'! Surely there are pockets ofchange? #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:38 @ianaddison perhaps they'd like podcasting their work!!! #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:38RT @janwebb21: @caroljallen #ukedchat teaching is teaching
whatever the age group! learning has to be personal to be effective!
DrAshCasey 20:38 @didactylos well they're certainly not listening anymore. #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:38@sellyeve Yes with not to but you may have to have a cunning plan
to get them there if the incentive isn't there naturally! #ukedchat
dughall 20:38
@sellyeve Yes, but not always an easy choice to make to leave the
shoal and face wrath of Ofsted or death by falling standards...
#ukedchat
Grevster73 20:39#ukedchat tech works when it supports pedagogical approaches, but
hate it when the tail starts to wag the dog.
TheBadgerBloke 20:39 #ukedchat tech works when it supports pedagogical approaches, buthate it when the tail starts to wag the dog.
janwebb21 20:39
@TheHeadsOffice @colport @kishtiag not to mention Vygotsky and
zones of proximal development!!!! prob even more appropriate for
#ukedchat
mr_chadwick 20:39RT @colport: I am trying to trial #classblogs for my class to get others
to do it, but hear the 'time' excuse #ukedchat < very familiar!!
lisacov19 20:39
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat we also live in a culture where
experimentation is not in vogue - where keeping in the shoal is safe
re targets and Ofsted
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geraldhaigh1 20:39Somehow I think technology has evolved to where it's more than a
tool. A working environment? A virtual learning space? #ukedchat
esoldaveglasgow 20:39
#ukedchat the current president of GTCS promised to make the word
Pedagogy common currency in Scottish education. It hasn't happened
yet.
sellyeve 20:39@dughall true but I think ofsted do a lot of following too - that's how
they end up trying to impose a one size fits all solution #ukedchat
DeputyHeadDunn 20:39@dughall tbh though, falling standards can't be accepted whatever
the reason
didactylos 20:39#ukedchat I don't say everyone must use Twitter, but its a superb
way of getting heads up on areas you could develop your own CPD
DrAshCasey 20:39
Concerned that we are pulling the 'behind schools' up on fibre optics
and not good practice #ukedchat
duckinwales 20:39
@ianaddison @TheHeadsOffice don't forget to put up some
#ukedchat posters!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2698233/ukedchat%20flyer.pdf
deerwood 20:39So, if we 'personalise' CPD for staff, can that help bring schools
forward? #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:39 @Brendano Absolutely! #ukedchat
Paddymcgrath 20:39 @colport they don't want to do it if the t word comes up #ukedchat
lisacov19 20:39RT @TheHeadsOffice @DrAshCasey THey need the confidence that
the HT prepared the path & that it is safe #ukedchat RT @ianaddison: @DeputyHeadDunn i think
we're going to make a 'clubs' blog, otherwise, every club will have
one #ukedchat
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ebd35 20:40RT @mr_chadwick: @ianaddison Have to be good example/role
model. Then they'll come to you. #ukedchat
caroljallen 20:40@deerwood #ukedchat absolutely! It works, it is effective and dare I
say it ...produces impact!
Paddymcgrath 20:40 @SusanElkinJourn it's always is a red rag for me #ukedchat
DeputyHeadDunn 20:40@ianaddison suppose it depends on how many clubs you've got!
We're a small primary so works well the way we do it #ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:40@colport depends on who defines the times? #ukedchat if its league
tables then they might not be so badly off
didactylos 20:40
@drashcasey #ukedchat err, actually now I've looked a bit closer you
could be right!
john_at_muuua 20:41small distinction but are we 'bringing schools forward' or 'taking
schools forward'? big difference #ukedchat
jimbo9848 20:41#ukedchat I fantasise about Google Classroom - a VLE in the cloud
that works and teachers can operate. One day maybe...
DeputyHeadDunn 20:41 @dughall oh I agree totally! #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:41@jessamacookie I think Ofsted is changing though - ICT important
again - learning important not test results #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:41
@geraldhaigh1 I wouldn't even say the tech is that - it is an enabler
for such things to take place and learning needs to be at
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squiggle7 20:41 @mr_chadwick that and e-safety are what I hear #ukedchat
Arakwai 20:42@deerwood Definately. We have seminars on different topics we
can sign up for, which a range of staff run. #ukedchat
colport 20:42@Paddymcgrath @mr_chadwick I do my class blog as a means ofcommunicating to parents http://bit.ly/cWC2Vy and pupils to discuss
#ukedchat
DeputyHeadDunn 20:42 @TheHeadsOffice agreed. 100% #ukedchat
Grevster73 20:42@deerwood I like the action research approach to cpd - focused,
personalized and effective small scale change #ukedchat
ebd35 20:42
@ianaddison ways to help the 'dinosaurs', what do you suggest?
#ukedchat Make it VERY easy for it to happen and make sure techworks!
DrAshCasey 20:42
RT: @dan_bowen: @DrAshCasey @deerwood @stevebob79
@dughall @ianaddison an innovation depends on your point of
reference #ukedchat
didactylos 20:42@geraldhaigh1 #ukedchat a healthy ecosystem is how I like to
describe it
DeputyHeadDunn 20:42@TheHeadsOffice our parents love it! They take lots of interest
#ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:42@colport HT should 'make' the time available. I think 'no time is the
worst excuse to make! #ukedchat
sellyeve 20:42 @caroljallen most definitely!! #ukedchat
colport 20:43
@TheHeadsOffice Totally agree. My class blog takes 5 minutes a day!
I make sure I find the time, for the benefit of pupils&parents
#ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:43 @DrAshCasey Important that 'free' laptops are not focussed on ch insch not interested in IT. Wasted resource #ukedchat
didactylos 20:43I would highly recommend it RT @simfin: may I offer my latest blog
on learning platforms to the discussion http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat
Paddymcgrath 20:43#ukedchat haven't we had something like 100 baker days since they
started. What's changed? What do we need to do in the next 100
SusanElkinJourn 20:43#ukedchat Trying to keep up at this speed is bringing on my (cured, I
thought) RSI so I'm bowing out for tonight. Another gd session, tho.
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TheBadgerBloke 20:43
RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat I fantasise about Google Classroom - a
VLE in the cloud that works and teachers can operate. One day
maybe...
Grevster73 20:43
RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat I fantasise about Google Classroom - a
VLE in the cloud that works and teachers can operate. One day
maybe...
missbrownsword 20:43RT @Grevster73: @deerwood I like the action research approach tocpd - focused, personalized and effective small scale change
#ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:43
@mr_chadwick #classblogs #ukedchat We are always saying the
same - good tech does not take more time but needs teacher to work
differently
innerquest 20:43ubiqutious technology, we're immersed in it, would we survive if we
lived 30 years agio? Hold on...we did! #ukedchat
simfin 20:43
may I offer my latest blog on learning platforms to the discussion
http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat
sellyeve 20:44@TheHeadsOffice for the most part, children are always interested in
IT aren't they? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:44RT @simfin: may I offer my latest blog on learning platforms to the
discussion http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:44RT @Grevster73: #ukedchat tech works when it supports pedagogical
approaches, but hate it when the tail starts to wag the dog. >SO right!
SkoorBttaM 20:44@colport I heard the time excuse too- now the children write the
blog post!! #ukedchat
stevebob79 20:44
#ukedchat Behind the times? on my SCITT today trainees were
amazed when I mentioned QCA SoW for ICT that many still follow is
12yrs old
john_at_muuua 20:45@stevebob79 i remember learning about 'punch cards' in 'IT' in 1984.
It was ever thus! #ukedchat
colport 20:45 @skoorBttaM Good idea. Again, that is involving the pupil. Couldwork in KS2+ #ukedchat
bennzaksflorist 20:45
RT @lisacov19: RT @TheHeadsOffice @DrAshCasey THey need the
confidence that the HT prepared the path & it is safe #ukedchat
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TheBadgerBloke 20:45@ebd35 @ianaddison #ukedchat 'dinosaurs' are just laggards - they
need the support & safety to try new technology
Grevster73 20:45@ebd35 @ianaddison #ukedchat 'dinosaurs' are just laggards - they
need the support & safety to try new technology
didactylos 20:45#ukedchat got to say proper 'team teaching' can be a pretty good
way of moving people one - right teaming is vital
colport 20:45@janwebb21 Perhaps we need a pedagogy #ukedchat session?
[@TheHeadsOffice ]
jessamacookie 20:45@carolrainbow I hope the trend continues. Hate the idea I had in ITT
of 'teaching the test' to my yr2s #ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:45
@Arakwai it might act as the catalyst for change but it is not what
keeps it going #ukedchat
trees2066 20:46 School disco just finished... late to #ukedchat again...
dughall 20:46RT @didactylos: #ukedchat got to say proper 'team teaching' can be a
pretty good way of moving people one - right teaming is vital
ianaddison 20:46 @DeputyHeadDunn any area #ukedchat
DrAshCasey 20:46@TheHeadsOffice it is a shame how much we do waste and now we
are losing specialist schools. A sad day. #ukedchat
Paddymcgrath 20:46RT @lisacov19: @Paddymcgrath #ukedchat reflect -review -
reposition & move on
sellyeve 20:46@TheBadgerBloke 'dinosaurs' 'laggards' recent conference described
them as '1973 ford cortinas' - labels...makes me flinch! #ukedchat
innerquest 20:46 Perhaps the problem is that we're still engaged in a school systemfrom the Victorian era, should we be moving outside of it #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:46@colport I think you could be right! (when's my next moderation! )
#ukedchat
dughall 20:46RT @colport: @janwebb21 Perhaps we need a pedagogy #ukedchat
session? [@TheHeadsOffice ]
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NickiA10 20:46 How do you keep up with ukedchat?
ianaddison 20:46@stevebob79 QCA ICT schemes of work are older than any children
in my school... #ukedchat
lisacov19 20:46 @Paddymcgrath #ukedchat reflect -review - reposition & move on
DeputyHeadDunn 20:46 @ianaddison plenty of those...what area? #ukedchat
Arakwai 20:46#ukedchat A good mentoring/coaching programme within a school
can support staff (and school) development if run well.
ianaddison 20:47
@dughall @colport @janwebb21 @TheHeadsOffice we need some
non-tech #ukedchat sessions i reckon
carolrainbow 20:47@ianaddison Web 2.0 easy to use tool such as Fotobabble, wordle,
discussion forums, edu glogster, story makers. comics #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:47
RT @dughall: RT @didactylos: #ukedchat got to say proper 'team
teaching' can be a pretty good way of moving people one - right
teaming is vital
TheBadgerBloke 20:47#ukedchat I'm using my new iPad for the first time tonight! This has
huge educational potential! #smugmode
Grevster73 20:47#ukedchat I'm using my new iPad for the first time tonight! This has
huge educational potential! #smugmode
missbrownsword 20:47lesson study is a good model for sharing good practice but it takes up
a lot of time #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:47@dughall Are you saying risk taking & standards can't go together?
#ukedchat
caroljallen 20:47
@ianaddison #ukedchat I find that free stuff from the web to
support barriers to learning eg screen readers; text to speech etc arewinners
mr_chadwick 20:47
RT @carolrainbow: #ukedchat We are always saying the same - good
tech does not take more time but needs teacher to work differently