ukedchat archive 02 december 2010
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Creativeedu 19:57Is everyone ready for #UKEdChat - with @carolrainbow and @CreativeEdu
hosting... let's learn about crowdsourcing!
ukedchat 19:57#ukedchat starts in a few minutes. Join @carolrainbow & @Creativeedu as
they discuss, "crowd sourcing a curriculum"
dailydenouement 19:58No idea what crowdsourcing even means... #ukedchat So this could be a steep
learning curve!
stevebunce 19:58RT @ukedchat: Join @carolrainbow & @Creativeedu as they joint host
#ukedchat this evening "Crowd sourcing a curriculum"
ukedchat 19:58Please remember to add #ukedchat to your tweets, so they can be added to
the archive.
didactylos 19:59ukedchat ever since I started teaching I have borrowed others ideas, now I
have a lot more people I can borrow from
carolrainbow 19:59Your hosts for the evening are @CreativeEdu - and myself #ukedchat
#ukedchat
MissSMitch 19:59are we talking about internet crowdsourcing or using in schools? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 19:59 @dailydenouement I crowd sourced a couple of great definitions which I'll
retweet as soon as everyone is sitting comfortably ;-) #UKEdChat
carolrainbow 19:59 Hello and welcome everyone, it seems the crowd sourcing idea is the one that
is going to move us forward tonight. #ukedchat #ukedchat
ianaddison 19:59crowdsourcing is great, very useful for sharing ideas with other people
#ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:00 Tonight - Around the world in 33 days what exciting curricular
opportunities are there for children in this fun topic. #ukedchat #ukedchattombarrett 20:00 @carolrainbow @CreativeEdu Strapped in and ready :-) #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:00We could build these ideas into a creative curriculum bank for all to use.
#ukedchat #ukedchat
mooshtang 20:00If I just stick a microphone into my computer can I record my voice as well as
the screen to explain a method? #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:00 My idea is that we have a crowd sourcing opportunity every few weeks as
time allows, maybe one every 6 weeks or so. #ukedchat #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:01 Good evening everyone and welcome to #UKEdChat with @carolrainbow
hosting and me doing my best to support! #UKEdChat
carolrainbow 20:01@tombarrett Would love your Google docs crowd sourcing to be running - but
it seemed to stop :-( #ukedchat
didactylos 20:01ukedchat last summer our Aliens summer school was crowd sourced in an
hour on twitter
Creativeedu 20:02Harnessing the collaborative power of social networks to facilitate the
development of a solution to a problem #UKEdChat @PeteJbell
didactylos 20:02ukedchat are we talking about the theory, or using an example or organising
stuff?
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carolrainbow 20:02 @mooshtang not in Twitter - sadly
Catriona_O 20:02@gorsey why are you asking me? don't you follow #ukedchat? #get with it
gorsey!!!!!
Creativeedu 20:02 Earlier this evening I crowd sourced a couple of definitions of crowd sourcing
which I thought would be good to get us started. #UKEdChat
dailydenouement 20:02 @carolrainbow So is this a primary topic then? #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:03 was wondering also RT @MissSMitch: RT @didactylos: #ukedchat are we
talking about the theory, or using an example or organising stuff?
paulholio 20:03 @CreativeEdu @carolrainbow Evening #ukedchat
MissSMitch 20:03RT @didactylos: #ukedchat are we talking about the theory, or using an
example or organising stuff?
Creativeedu 20:03 Crowdsourcing - To tap into the collective knowledge and experience of a
group of people to aggregate a response. #UKEdChat @CrudBasher
SusanElkinJourn 20:03
ukedchat How does 'crowd sourcing' differ from (discredited) 1960s style
'topic work'?
carolrainbow 20:03@dailydenouement @carolrainbow it could be primary or KS3 I guess
#ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:04 @GaryAveryICT @CreativeEdu sounds perfect
carolrainbow 20:04 As we add ideas can we add an age group please, then I will catalogue, we
could develop a useful topic web #ukedchat #ukedchat
paulholio 20:04 I don't know if I follow... #ukedchat
duckinwales 20:04 Oops - arrived late - what's the #ukedchat topic tonight please?
GaryAveryICT 20:04
@CreativeEdu ah...a kind of internet brainstorming then.... #ukedchat
mooshtang 20:05and then embed in blog by uploading to vimeo or somewhere? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:05@duckinwales we're discussing crowdsourcing a creative curriculum
#UKEdChat
john_at_muuua 20:05@CreativeEdu @PeteJbell interesting definition, but needs must include
'social networks', surely that's just the medium #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:05@duckinwales brainstorming Around the World in 33 days as a creative
curriculum topic #ukedchat
SusanElkinJourn 20:05 #ukedchat Or is it more of a theme day? Taught in 1 school where we used to
have wonderful cross-curr Indian days, for examp with food etc
mooshtang 20:05 If I just stick a microphone into my computer can I record my voice as well as
the screen to explain a method on the smartboard ? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:05RT @garyaveryict ah...a kind of internet brainstorming then.... #ukedchat
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ianaddison 20:06#ukedchat I'm crowdsourcing a new ICT curriculum for my primary school, DM
me if you want to join in
BAFDiploma 20:06@didactylos Hi Roger, you are missing the # from ukedchat so your tweets are
showing up.
MissSMitch 20:06i love the idea of a theme day -in 2ry pupils would get a different range of
topics and could feedback in tutor time #ukedchat
didactylos 20:06 ukedchat so is tonight about brainstorming and will follow up with some formof wiki?
Creativeedu 20:06@paulholio what's up - not sure if you follow what crowdsourcing is or what
we're up to tonight? #UKEdChat
dailydenouement 20:06 We don't use creative curriculum yet RT @carolrainbow: brainstorming
Around the World in 33 days as a creative curriculum topic #ukedchat
MissSMitch 20:06 #ukedchat I love the idea of a theme day
carolrainbow 20:06@Ideas_Factory I agree but it is useful to have some ideas ready to pick up
and use #ukedchat
colport 20:07
What tools could be used for crowdsourcing an idea? Google docs?
#ukedchat
mberry 20:07 @SusanElkinJourn when you say topic work is 'discredited', by whom? and on
what basis? cf IBO PYP http://goo.gl/pMdSB #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:07 why 33 days? #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:07@MissSMitch I heard on 2dnry teacher talking about a theme day - it worked
really well, pupils motivated etc #ukedchat
cleverfiend 20:07 Its not just ideas teachers want - its the confidence to branch out and do
smthng different.Should be sharing these experiences 2! #ukedchat
SusanElkinJourn 20:07 Around the world in 33 days? 'Multicultural' novels for Key Stage 3. Plotprovenance on maps etc. #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:07 Whilst we discuss crowdsourcing we'd also like to carry some out - let's source
ideas on the topic 'around the world in 33 days' #UKEdChat
john_at_muuua 20:07 does crowd sourcing need 'social media'? #ukedchat
JMGubbins 20:08I was thinking something like this: http://bit.ly/eMe8kb Each school in the
project could make their town 3d #ukedchat
clairelowe2 20:08what is crowdsourcing - can guess but can someone explain pls #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:08
@carolrainbow #ukedchat After you've asked the kids-then ask the staff-what
would they like to know about the topic?
TheHeadsOffice 20:08Is the idea to crowd source across the internet or within a school / cluster?
#UKedchat
theokk 20:08@carolrainbow have you a platform or place in mind for the crowwdsourced
curriculum Carol? #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:08@missbrownsword Any number of days - 80 was too many maybe 30 too few
:-) #ukedchat
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Creativeedu 20:08 RT @john_at_muuua:@petejbell interesting definition, but needs must
include 'social networks', surely that's just the medium #ukedchat
clairelowe2 20:08@ianaddison you need to ensure that ICT is plumbed into the experiences
offered to the children not a separate event #ukedchat
MissSMitch 20:08 @john_at_muuua I think it social networking would be easier as you havepositive inputs but it would be great to see it in school #ukedchat
tombarrett 20:08 @carolrainbow You mean the Curriculum Catalyst? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:09What do you consider to be the positives and negatives of crowdsourcing?
#UKEdChat
CreativeSTAR 20:09 Please please please include outdoor activities in any crowd sourced creative
curriculum #ukedchat Creativity happens easily outside
mberry 20:09@MissSMitch we had some lovely whole school theme /weeks/ too at my old
place. #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:09
My first thought is planning a route using GoogleEarth / Google maps, working
out distances etc #ukedchat #ukedchat
paulholio 20:09@CreativeEdu the specifics of what you are up to tonight, but I'll catch on
eventually... #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:09RT @colport: What tools could be used for crowdsourcing an idea? Google
docs? #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:09 @JMGubbins Thank soujnds good! #UKedchat
colport 20:09 @TheHeadsOffice I think either works well. #ukedchat
tombarrett 20:09 #UKSnowDepth is an eg of #crowdsourcing #ukedchat
SusanElkinJourn 20:09 #ukedchat Could use poems as global stepping stones too.
missbrownsword 20:09 @carolrainbow we did a thing where the kids flew around the world, eachclass a diff country which they visited during the week #ukedchat
dailydenouement 20:09Ha! Was just about to say same RT @clairelowe2: what is crowdsourcing - can
guess but can someone explain pls #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:09@tombarrett The Curriculum Catalyst - yes could not remember it's name :-(
sorry
missbrownsword 20:10indeed RT @HYWEL_ROBERTS: #ukedchat #mantleoftheexpert is a great way
of unlocking a theme creatively.
didactylos 20:10@Creativeedu #ukedchat google docs works very well for indiv ideas, for a
range a wiki is better
Creativeedu 20:10
Welcome to any latecomers to #UKEdChat tonight we are discussing
crowdsourcing a creative curriculum
clairelowe2 20:10RT @tombarrett: #UKSnowDepth is an eg of #crowdsourcing #ukedchat
HYWEL_ROBERTS 20:10#ukedchat #mantleoftheexpert is a great way of unlocking a theme
creatively.
tombarrett 20:10Tools for #crowdsourcing have to have no barrier to entry - or if they do a
simple way to hop over them #ukedchat
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carolrainbow 20:10 RT @JMGubbins: I was thinking something like this: http://bit.ly/eMe8kb Each
school in the project could make their town 3d #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:11 RT @ideas_factory: @carolrainbow #ukedchat After you've asked the kids-
then ask the staff-what would they like to know about the topic?
DrAshCasey 20:11 So crowd sourcing is asking a 'room' full of people for ideas? Where did theterm come from? #ukedchat
didactylos 20:11RT @tombarrett: Tools for #crowdsourcing have to have no barrier to entry -
or if they do a simple way to hop over them #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:11I think a key thing with crowdsourcing is simply that many heads are better
than one? #UKEdChat
JMGubbins 20:11@Creativeedu As I understand it crowdsourcing is basically a global
collaborative effort to accomplish a singular goal. #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:11 #ukedchat How can u 'Crowdsource' a truely creative curriculum-creativity
does not have predefined set of answers & exists without a pathway
theokk 20:11@TheHeadsOffice got to be Internet? When it's closed it is not really
crowdsourced #ukedchat
dailydenouement 20:11Are we talking about crowd sourcing generally or a particular topic? I'm
hopelessly confused #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:11Maybe getting different groups to study different areas and feed their ideas
into a wiki or make presos #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:11RT @theheadsoffice: Is the idea to crowd source across the internet or within
a school / cluster? #UKedchat
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john_at_muuua 20:12difficulty of crowd sourcing is that 'crowds' are inclusive, meaning they include
the good bad and... needs quality control #ukedchat
mberry 20:12@missbrownsword I guess that's not to be taken literally. Would have loved
to see the risk assessment ;-) #ukedchat
SusanElkinJourn 20:12#ukedchat It would be good to learn a few phrases in the languages of the
other countries too.
Cre8tiveCoach 20:12 RT @HYWEL_ROBERTS: #ukedchat #mantleoftheexpert is a great way ofunlocking a theme creatively.
didactylos 20:13 RT @ianaddison: shouldn't we crowdsource everything? why do tchrs spnd
hours planning when we're all doing the same thing anyway?? #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:13#ukedchat All you are doing when you crowdsource is coming up with more
ideas-what if pupils hate ideas-what then?
colport 20:13 @Creativeedu My concern with online crowd sourcing is that this would
exclude many experts who do not engage in technology #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:13 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowdsourcing - from wikipedia #ukedchat
clairelowe2 20:13 #ukedchat How cn u 'Crowdsource' a truely creative curriculum-creativity
does not have predefined set of answers & exists w/out a pathway
MissSMitch 20:13@Ideas_factory it would allow students to apply skills without exam restraints
#ukedchat
MissSMitch 20:14RT @Catriona_O: is crowdsourcing an ongoing activity or is it just useful for a
one off question? #ukedchat
tombarrett 20:14 Success of #crowdsourcing does depend on your ability to access a crowd or
indeed the make up of the crowd you want to tap into #UKEdchat
MissSMitch 20:14#ukedchat crowdsourcing is a good way of making links especially in a 2ry
setting - not the final answer but a definite start
Catriona_O 20:14is crowdsourcing an ongoing activity or is it just useful for a one off question?
#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:14How can we involve those who are less tech savvy in our crowd sourcing?
#UKEdChat
didactylos 20:14 @colport good way to get them involved then #ukedchat
Tina_Barr 20:14 RT @gregoryshea: Looking for more educators to tweet with and follow!
Please RT! Thx #edadmin #elemchat #midleved #lrnchat #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:14@colport #ukedchat Not only that but it narrows the type of ideas you havebecause it's mainly the same type of person...
Creativeedu 20:14 RT @colport: My concern with online crowd sourcing is that this would
exclude many experts who do not engage in technology #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:14@Ideas_Factory surely you only choose ideas that you think your pupils would
enjoy - and adapt ideas to fit your class? #ukedchat
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GaryAveryICT 20:14 But if we 'crowdsource' don't we run the risk of losing creativity, especially
across a cluster, do we crowdsource with children. #ukedchat
SusanElkinJourn 20:14 @CreativeEdu @CrudBasher #ukedchat Yr definition is the sort of jargon
which gets teachers/teaching a bad name. Up with plain English!
AntHeald 20:14RT @didactylos: RT @ianaddison: shouldn't we crowdsource everything? whydo tchrs spnd hours planning when we're all doing the same thing anyway??
#ukedchat
cleverfiend 20:15 @ianaddison If we all worked from 1shared resource it would be QCA
schemes all over - its the ideas that aid personalisation etc #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:15 I forgo to include #ukedchat in last tweet, doh!
CreativeSTAR 20:15@clairelowe2 #ukedchat Crowd sourcing ideas for a creative curric need not
be prescriptive - more like springboards to tailor
colport 20:15 @Ideas_Factory Agree, and also agree with your point about pupils. I always
engage ideas with pupils about what they want to learn #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:15RT @didactylos: #ukedchat I think we need to talk generally not go for any
specific idea here its about process IMHO tonight
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didactylos 20:16 @MissSMitch it can be asynchronous and ongoing #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:16
I SUGGEST WE TALK GENERALLY - THEN CROWD SOURCE AN IDEA
COLLABORATIVELY OVER THE NEXT WEEK USING WHAT WE LEARNT
TONIGHT? #UKEdChat
GaryAveryICT 20:16@carolrainbow Agreed, as teachers we all have our own style and take on
others ideas in our own way... #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:16 @MissSMitch @Catriona_O I would have thought it should be on-going - andadded to as nnew ideas crop up #ukedchat
JMGubbins 20:16 I think the important thing with a project like this isn't just the project, but the
outcome- does it have real world application? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:16#ukedchat you could crowdsource help guides, videos, examples, ideas etc
didactylos 20:17@colport but we can benefit from others contributions and still shape it
ourselves #ukedchat
GaryAveryICT 20:17 What is the easiest forum for crowdsourcing? #ukedchat
SusanElkinJourn 20:17
@didactylos #ukedchat That makes more sense. But it just sounds like any
good lesson to me.
Ideas_Factory 20:17@carolrainbow #ukedchat I agree-but by decided what the kids enjoy all your
doing is replecating the old QCA units.
tombarrett 20:17Jump into the #ukedchat tonight as we discuss #crowdsourcing, what it means
and how we can make best use of it in edu
jowinchester 20:17I think it is possible to selectivly crowdsource - after a crowd in a bar is not the
same as the crowd in a cafe.. #ukedchat
CrudBasher 20:17@SusanElkinJourn @CreativeEdu Heh heh, you are probably right! How would
you define it in plain English? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:17@susanelkinjourn do you have a plain english version we can use?
#UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:17 RT @susanelkinjourn: @CrudBasher #ukedchat Yr def is the sort of jargon
which gets teachers/teaching a bad name. Up with plain English!
SusanElkinJourn 20:17 @mberry i didn't say it was. I wondered if it was . . ? #ukedchat
mberry 20:17 The source crowd needn't be us, it could be the pupils: what would you (all)
like to learn? How could we teach one another this? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:17@colport #ukedchat I mean we're all aiming for same objectives and 90% are
teaching the same topics
john_at_muuua 20:17 @SusanElkinJourn Up with plain English! indeed #ukedchat
mooshtang 20:18
RT @mberry: The source crowd needn't be us, it could be the pupils: whatwould you (all) like to learn? How could we teach one another this?
#ukedchat
colport 20:18@didactylos Yes, I think that was the point I was trying to make. #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:18RT @didactylos: @colport but we can benefit from others contributions and
still shape it ourselves #ukedchat
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Creativeedu 20:18 RT @mberry: The source crowd needn't be us, cd be the pupils: what wd you
like to learn? How could we teach one another this? #ukedchat
clairelowe2 20:18 #ukedchat@colport @ianaddison we share lots
ianaddison 20:18#ukedchat while working on the VLE, most tchrs were reluctant to share any
ideas or resources in case 'they weren't good enough'
myhallin 20:18 RT @briankotts: 100 Incredibly Useful YouTube Channels for Teachershttp://bit.ly/aomuZb #edchat #edtech #ukedchat #eduswe
ianaddison 20:18 #ukedchat problem is, how many tchrs actually like sharing? What have you
ever given back? until we get over that, crowdsourcing wont work
Creativeedu 20:18 RT @tombarrett: Jump into the #ukedchat tonight as we discuss
#crowdsourcing, what it means and how we can make best use of it in edu
carolrainbow 20:18@Catriona_O @carolrainbow a wiki is just an outcome - every activity would
have a different outcome #ukedchat
colport 20:18 @ianaddison The QCA topics have a lot to answer for :-( #ukedchat
ianchia 20:18 @GaryAveryICT #ukedchat @creativeedu @tombarrett Hello everyone -
serendipity intervenes. We'd like to invite you to http://j.mp/gqQNSQ
Creativeedu 20:19 RT @CreativeSTAR: please please include outdoor activities in crowd sourced
creative curriculum #ukedchat Creativity happens easily outside
ianchia 20:19 @carolrainbow @Ideas_Factory #ukedchat We're a diverse group of parents
who are educators and artists/artisans/developers who are attempting
josepicardo 20:19 one of best things about crowdsourcing as classroom activity is to see pupils'reaction at how easy it is to access new knowledge #UKEdchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:19Using edublogs for OCR ICT cont. ass so learners can 'collaborate and share
information effectively'. #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:19#ukedchat Lets not forget-A creative curriculum doesn't just mean having
more ideas for your theme or doing more 'arty' activities
SusanElkinJourn 20:19@CreativeEdu #ukedchat Working with a group on a non-exam topic?
Creativeedu 20:19 Has anyone tried crowdsourcing with their pupils? #UKEdChat
GaryAveryICT 20:19@colport I'mditching my ICT QCA units, they don't fit with a creative
curriculum #ukedchat
stevebunce 20:19
RT @CreativeSTAR: Please please please include outdoor activities in anycrowd sourced creative curriculum #ukedchat Creativity happens easily
outside
didactylos 20:19@SusanElkinJourn yes but with input from maybe hundreds of brains by using
the pln #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:19 @mberry great point! #UKEdChat
ianchia 20:20 @carolrainbow @Ideas_Factory #ukedchat ...a worldwide crossexchange of
creativity and learning, trying to invent a new way of sharing betwn
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theokk 20:20@ianaddison v important point, think you are right but things are changing,
culture shift needed #ukedchat CC a good catalyst
tombarrett 20:20Tapping into the expertise and asking for contributions from a wider
community, so it's not just me my def of #crowdsourcing #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:20RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat problem is, how many tchrs actually like sharing?
until we get over that, crowdsourcing wont work
colport 20:20 @GaryAveryICT Absolutely, so perhaps we should crowd source re-designingan ICT curriculum for all key stages. #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:20It could be us, teachers not interested in tech and pupils - but banks of ideas
really should be useful to spark creative lessons #ukedchat
didactylos 20:20@GaryAveryICT @tombarrett has already shown the power of google docs for
this @ukedchat
ianaddison 20:20 @clairelowe2 @bevevans22 and people on here are obviously an exception,
but trust me 95% of hants teachers are not sharing #ukedchat
josepicardo 20:21pupils don't really connect social networking and its crowdsourcing
possibilities with learning #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:21 @ianaddison @colport we are moving away from topics towards themes
allows more scope for chdn's ideas eg belonging, choices #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:21 @clairelowe2 you only have to look at the massive potential of sharing in
wizkid and how few bother to share back. it's a travesty #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:21 RT @tombarrett:"Tapping into the expertise and asking for contributions from
a wider community, so it's not just me"#crowdsourcing #ukedchat
ianchia 20:21#ukedchat @carolrainbow @Ideas_Factory children/schools worldwide. Some
backstory here: http://j.mp/ej04qGCatriona_O 20:21 how do you harness your crowdsourced info #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:21#ukedchat example i always use: Have you ever downloaded from a site like
primary resources? Have you ever uploaded back?
Miss_LollyDolly 20:21#ukedchat I don't understand why teachers wouldn't share - surely it would
make life much easier?! #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:21@DrAshCasey #ukedchat That's what I mean-crowdsource the kids!!Not just
the ideas but the topic
josepicardo 20:22pupils getting mixed messages all the time: assemblies and PHSE tell them it's
all bad - some of us say it's actually good #UKEdchat
didactylos 20:22
@ianaddison that's their choice, their mistake, shouldn't top those who will
and will reap the rewards #ukedchat
colport 20:22@ianaddison A good example...just look at the resources still evident from
sparkle box :-0 #ukedchat
thecleversheep 20:22 @tombarrett This environment lends itself to communicating with a crowd or
team, it doesn't often get leveraged for creation. #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:22 RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Lets not forget-A creative curriculum doesn't
just mean having more ideas for your theme or doing more 'arty' activities
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DeputyMitchell 20:22@ianaddison Good point Ian! Erm...just for the record I haven't! #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:22@ianaddison @clairelowe2 Maybe we can start the culture change ;-)
#ukedchat
cleverfiend 20:22RT @Catriona_O: how do you harness your crowdsourced info #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:22 @ForesterJo agreed, but you still need a bank of ideas and resources to usealong the way don't you? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:23@robsteadman what was the response like #UKEdChat can you tell everyone
more about class wikis please?
mberry 20:23
@GaryAveryICT @colport @ideas_factory @cleverfiend
www.standards.dfes.gov.uk has been offline since lunchtime, poss. earlier.
#ukedchat
ianaddison 20:23@cindypenney don't want the competition getting the good stuff? that makes
me want to swear. lots. children will miss out #ukedchat
tombarrett 20:23 @ianaddison So you need to choose your crowd carefully #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:23 @clairelowe2 thanks look forward to having a read :) #ukedchat
ianchia 20:23@CreativeSTAR @clairelowe2 #ukedchat - We're attempting this via
http://j.mp/dIGGG0 over December w @sendfelicity
Creativeedu 20:23
RT @josepicardo: one of best things about crowdsourcing as classroom
activity is to see pupils' reaction at how easy it is to access new knowledge
#UKEdchat
Creativeedu 20:23 RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Lets not forget-A creative curriculum doesn't
just mean having more ideas for your theme or doing more 'arty' activities
james_madeinme 20:23 @ianaddison @clairelowe2 @bevevans22 I agree. It's dangerous to assume
the Twitter 'crowd' in Ed is not a small minority. 1/2 #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:23 #ukedchat in training 500+ tchrs about VLE I found 90% had downlaoded from
sites but only 5 people had shared back. crowdsourcing is hard
Ideas_Factory 20:24 #ukedchat @ForesterJo It's a absolute MUST to do some learning away from
the usual environs-give the kids a different space to be inspired
theokk 20:24@james_madeinme possibly an influential and affective (growing) minority
#ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:24Banks of ideas that all could add to, adapt, modify etc may be useful in many
ways #ukedchat
Miss_LollyDolly 20:24 @ianaddison I agree! #ukedchat #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:24#ukedchat Teacher: 'My stuff's not good enough to share' Me: Stop sharing it
with the 30 children in your class then.
stevebunce 20:24http://primarypad.com/ has a low technical barrier for teachers,but I still
often use paper when planning out with others #ukedchat
thecleversheep 20:24 @tombarrett I hinted at the need to model substantial products/projects in a
blog post yesterday: http://thecleversheep.com #ukedchat
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MrColleyStMarys 20:24@colport @GaryAveryICT Reworking presentation unit based on
globalgossip's work on slideshare. Want a look? #ukedchat
ianchia 20:24@CreativeSTAR @clairelowe2 #ukedchat Here is the seed for this Sat's activity
http://j.mp/gzMKXT - but it's open ended.
ianaddison 20:24#ukedchat I'm far too used to playing devil's advocate on here...I am pretty
much on the same side as most of you. I'm just saying :-)
Creativeedu 20:24 RT @SusanElkinJourn: @CreativeEdu #ukedchat Working with a group on anon-exam topic?
missbrownsword 20:24 @ianaddison Lot of teachers aren't confident theyve good ideas to share and
yet some ideas/resources shared on sites are terrible! #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:24 The number of times I go into school to help with planning and people say -
wow - did not know about that - they need to know! #ukedchat
GaryAveryICT 20:25 @ianaddison Agreed.. never thought of that. #ukedchat
robsteadman 20:25@CreativeEdu #ukedchat Class Wiki: once they got over the novelty of the
chat facility they helped write a (cont) http://tl.gd/7985nv
Creativeedu 20:25RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat Teacher: 'My stuff's not good enough to share'
Me: Stop sharing it with the 30 children in your class then.
james_madeinme 20:25Fear of sharing, fear of scrutiny, just plain old fashioned fear. A grass roots
culture of sharing must precede any fancy tech. #ukedchat
ianchia 20:25 @Ideas_Factory #ukedchat with http://j.mp/gzMKXT we're trying to show
intersection of STEM & arts. 3D geometry & craft for K-6 @sendfelicity
DeputyMitchell 20:25 Many teachers don't think that they have much to offer as they believe they
are satisfactory or satis with elements of good etc #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:25 RT @ianaddison: @cindypenney don't want the competition getting the good
stuff? that makes me want to swear. lots. children will miss out #ukedchat
lauradoggett 20:25RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat Teacher: 'My stuff's not good enough to share'
Me: Stop sharing it with the 30 children in your class then.
Creativeedu 20:25can anyone share an example of crowd sourcing really contributing to their
curriculum / lesson planning #UKEdChat
didactylos 20:26 @missbrownsword absolutely #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:26 #ukedchat I do have to say I spent 2yrs training teachers and trying to get
them to share. I know the barriers. Also many of you are sharers
thecleversheep 20:26@tombarrett Yes, Twitter. I ran out of characters, which is a limiting factor.But we have crowdsourced a few resources... #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:26 RT @robsteadman: @CreativeEdu #ukedchat Class Wiki: once they got over
the novelty of the chat facility they helped write a (cont) http://tl.gd/7985nv
didactylos 20:26RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat Teacher: 'My stuff's not good enough to share'
Me: Stop sharing it with the 30 children in your class then.
missbrownsword 20:26@CreativeEdu I often ask twitter tohelp me with lesson ideas that's
crowdsourcing isn't it? #ukedchat
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Creativeedu 20:26
RT @DeputyMitchell: Many teachers don't think that they have much to offer
as they believe they are satisfactory or satis with elements of good etc
#ukedchat
DeputyMitchell 20:26 Maybe? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:26#ukedchat I crowdsourced ideas for biographical questions with Year 5-6 and
then the children wrote http://bit.ly/a3uW3T
Creativeedu 20:27 Has anyone ever declined the opportunity to share a good idea whensomeone else was crowdsourcing... and why? #UKEdChat
ianaddison 20:27I share all the time, if it's crap,people won't use it. If it's useful to 1 person,
then it was worth sharing http://bit.ly/cQCy16 #ukedchat
CreativeSTAR 20:27@Ideas_Factory #ukedchat Fostering Creativity - here's HMIe perspective
http://twurl.nl/roffsr Definitely more than just the arts!
GaryAveryICT 20:27I have memory sticks full of resources.. what is our forum for sharing or
should we get own own sites #ukedchat
BAFDiploma 20:27RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat Teacher: 'My stuff's not good enough to share'
Me: Stop sharing it with the 30 children in your class then.
carolrainbow 20:27 There is no doubt that teachers feel their work is not good enough - an
OfTSED result I think - but I see amazing stuff in schools #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:27@ianaddison there's also an element of 'if I share I'm showing off' #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:27RT @tombarrett: @CreativeEdu http://bit.ly/d9XRFO #UKEdChat Curriculum
Catalyst
ianchia 20:27
@CreativeEdu @ianaddison #ukedchat -extending the experience 2
parents>3rd stakeholder we hope 2 pivot the learning experience
@sendfelicity
ForesterJo 20:27 @ianaddison think you can have bank web tools etc but think resources maycrop up along the way as chdn ideas grow (if given opp) #ukedchat
john_at_muuua 20:27RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat Teacher: 'My stuff's not good enough to share'
Me: Stop sharing it with the 30 children in your class then.
Ideas_Factory 20:27 @Creativeedu #ukedchat We ask kids what topic they want to be taught-then
crowdsource what they want 2 learn about-then ask adults-then plan
AntHeald 20:27#ukedchat what I share with kids is mainly 'expertise' rather than 'resources':
how do we crowdsource that?
Creativeedu 20:27@missbrownsword YES getting your twitter followers to help you with your
ideas IS crowdsourcing... who else does it? #UKEdChat
tombarrett 20:27 @CreativeEdu http://bit.ly/d9XRFO #UKEdChat Curriculum Catalyst
julietteheppell 20:28@josepicardo PSHE says what is bad? Social Networking? defo not in my
school! :-) #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:28
RT @Ideas_Factory: @Creativeedu #ukedchat We ask kids what topic they
want to be taught-then crowdsource what they want 2 learn about-then ask
adults-then plan
TeacherToolkit 20:28 http://j.mp/eV0b73 #ukedchat #TTkit
clairelowe2 20:28 @ianaddison #ukedchat so we could start our own sparkle box?
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Creativeedu 20:28@antheald I would say expertise and experience are often directly linked, you
can share experience?... #UKEdChat
kindlinglily 20:28
RT @CreativeSTAR: Please please please include outdoor activities in any
crowd sourced creative curriculum #ukedchat Creativity happens easily
outside
deafdotty 20:28
RT @carolrainbow: There is no doubt that teachers feel their work is not good
enough - an OfTSED result I think - but I see amazing stuff in schools#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:28RT @AntHeald: #ukedchat what I share with kids is mainly 'expertise' rather
than 'resources': how do we crowdsource that?
Ideas_Factory 20:29 @CreativeSTAR #ukedchat Agreed and that's the way it should be!!
ianaddison 20:29I wasn't going to join in #ukedchat tonight but you dragged me in. Sorry for
arguing, see you all later I share here: www.ianaddison.net
TeacherToolkit 20:29White Paper feedback by #TeachersTv & #DylanWiliam http://j.mp/hyFoYi
#ukedchat #TTkit
josepicardo 20:29@julietteheppell one of the enlightened ones then! hooray! :-) #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:29Does crowdsourcing curriclum topics from your pupils make them more
engaged as they have buy in? #UKEdChat
duckinwales 20:29
RT @Ideas_Factory: @Creativeedu #ukedchat We ask kids what topic they
want to be taught-then crowdsource what they want 2 learn about-then ask
adults-then plan
ForesterJo 20:29 @Ideas_Factory like a forest garden????? #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:29@ianaddison And aren't many teachers grateful? I know they are! It saves
time and gives lovely ideas etc #ukedchat
ianchia 20:30 RT @CreativeSTAR: please please include outdoor activities in crowd sourced
creative curriculum #ukedchat @sendfelicity has those in our cal
CreativeSTAR 20:30RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat Teacher: 'My stuff's not good enough to share'
Me: Stop sharing it with the 30 children in your class then.
carolrainbow 20:30 @ianaddison Bye and thanks Ian #ukedchat
spx8jkb 20:30 I love sharing ideas, shame those in my dept hate change! when training
NQT's they can't get enough! "Sharing creates genius!" #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:30RT @GaryAveryICT: I have memory sticks full of resources.. what is our forum
for sharing or should we get own own sites #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:30@clairelowe2 noooooo, I meant useful websites and stuff really like delicious.
#ukedchat
CreativeSTAR 20:30 @ianchia #ukedchat Love the hats! Inspired! Thanks for sharing
ianchia 20:30 @carolrainbow #ukedchat - our attempt here: http://j.mp/dIGGG0 with more
ideas from a PLN here: http://t.co/MJ88Hhh using @sendfelicity
colport 20:30 @ianaddison and myself crowd-sourced an e-safety area for people to get
ideas for developing in own school http://bit.ly/hxLKua #ukedchat
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cleverfiend 20:30 @clairelowe2 There is already a sparklebox alternative gathering traffic, and
the TES site - do we need more fragmentation? #ukedchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:31Thinking of running it as a way to get my form to research for and prepare
their assembly. Any ideas on a suitable medium? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:31
RT @ianchia: @carolrainbow #ukedchat - our attempt here:
http://j.mp/dIGGG0 with more ideas from a PLN here: http://t.co/MJ88Hhhusing @sendfelicity
didactylos 20:31 @clairelowe2 bad choice of example, but yes - might work, might not -
tension of central organisation versus individual flowerings #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:31
RT @colport: @ianaddison and myself crowd-sourced an e-safety area for
people to get ideas for developing in own school http://bit.ly/hxLKua
#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:31 @ianaddison thanks Ian fab input! #UKEdChat
julietteheppell 20:31 @josepicardo as with any department - it's the teacher, their understanding,
interests, passion and training not the subject! #ukedchat
thecleversheep 20:31 @tombarrett An example of Twitter crowdsourcing: http://j.mp/hdhLcx &
http://j.mp/f6Mz7C The lesson was in doing the activity. #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:32
RT @thecleversheep: @tombarrett An example of Twitter crowdsourcing:
http://j.mp/hdhLcx & http://j.mp/f6Mz7C The lesson was in doing the activity.
#ukedchat
AntHeald 20:32RT @missbrownsword @ianaddison there's also an element of 'if I share I'm
showing off' #ukedchat
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carolrainbow 20:33There are some great links to follow later everyone - thanks :-) #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:33@DaffodillyDaisy got to, i'll just keep winding people up otherwise. I'm not
usually argumentative. I think. #ukedchat
robsteadman 20:33@CreativeEdu #ukedchat I always ask parents and pupils for repertoire
suggestions for orchestra!!
clairelowe2 20:33 #ukedchat polar express and hot hot hot chocolate beckon
Creativeedu 20:33
RT @cleverfiend: @GaryAveryICT The trouble with self-hosting resources is
getting traffic. Taken me years & hard work to get a few hundred hits/day
#ukedchat
sellyeve 20:33 #ukedchat
sellyeve 20:33 RT @josepicardo as with any department - it's the teacher, their
understanding, interests, passion and training not the subject! #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:33RT @clairelowe2: am liking the reaction to my sparklebox suggestion!!
#ukedchat good to see that we are all about learning
ForesterJo 20:33
RT @Ideas_Factory: @Creativeedu #ukedchat We ask kids what topic they
want to be taught-then crowdsource what they want 2 learn about-then ask
adults-then plan
Creativeedu 20:34maybe crowdsourcing and community cohesion can be married somehow?
#UKEdChat
HGJohn 20:34@clairelowe2 Have you seen it in 3D on the Imax? An experience not to be
missed. #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:34@ForesterJo #ukedchat Yes!! or a building site, a park, a laundrette anywhere
that's sufficiently different to stimulate learning
sellyeve 20:34@Creativeedu we've found parental engagement absolutely key #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:34 RT @sellyeve: @Creativeedu I think any approach that gives chn moreinvolvement leads to more engagement #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:34RT @robsteadman: @CreativeEdu #ukedchat I always ask parents and pupils
for repertoire suggestions for orchestra!!
Creativeedu 20:34Fast and Furious #UKEDChat tonight as we discuss Crowdsourcing with hosts
@carolrainbow and @creativeedu
didactylos 20:34RT @theokk: Crowdsourcing and sharing should lead naturally to (opps for)
collaboration #ukedchat
ianchia 20:34 @CreativeSTAR @Ideas_Factory #ukedchat ABSOLUTELY. Innovation required
both STEM and arts, but don't leave out either. http://j.mp/ej04qG
tombarrett 20:34 Asking for contributions to a blog post is tapping into your crowd-see
comments here http://bit.ly/fpIg0v we used them in a lesson #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:35
RT @CreativeEdu: maybe crowdsourcing and community cohesion can be
married somehow? #UKEdChat think they need 2 b otherwise all abit
random?
carolrainbow 20:35 RT @spx8jkb: I love sharing ideas, shame those in my dept hate change! NQTs
cant get enough! "Sharing creates genius!" #ukedchat
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JamiePortman 20:35 #ukedchat True about teacher reluctance to contribute re: crowd sourcing.
We need to spread its benefits beyond twitter & into staffrooms
ianchia 20:35 @ianaddison #ukedchat we're trying to show that within a ww group context,
there's no right/wrong for learning creativity http://j.mp/gzMKXT
clairelowe2 20:35 @tombarrett like that example #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:35
RT @tombarrett: Asking for contributions to a blog post is tapping into your
crowd-see comments here http://bit.ly/fpIg0v we used them in a lesson
#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:35RT @theokk: Crowdsourcing and sharing should lead naturally to (opps for)
collaboration #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:36Sharing creates genius! #ukedchat - wisdom is definitely built from within!
Creativeedu 20:36how can we spread the benefits of crowdsourcing beyond twitter and into
staffrooms? #UKEdChat
didactylos 20:36
@Creativeedu crowd sourcing by it's nature is an open activity and lends itself
to links with other actions #ukedchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:36@missbrownsword Outstanding teachers I've trained didn't want to be tagged
with 'bees knees disease'! #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:36
RT @JamiePortman: #ukedchat True about teacher reluctance to contribute
re: crowd sourcing. We need to spread its benefits beyond twitter & into
staffrooms
clairelowe2 20:36@HGJohn no i haven't thats a shame #ukedchat im sure we would all love it
nuttyprof24 20:36RT @TeacherToolkit: White Paper feedback by #TeachersTv & #DylanWiliam
http://j.mp/hyFoYi #ukedchat #TTkit
Creativeedu 20:36 @sellyeve do you have specific examples? sounds great #UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:37 RT @sellyeve: @Creativeedu our VLE project last year got over 100 parents &
grandparents more involved in children's learning - response huge. #ukedchat
ianchia 20:37@CreativeEdu #UKEdChat we're inviting parents/schools/children to combine
@sendfelicity http://j.mp/dIGGG0 http://j.mp/gzMKXT
theokk 20:37 @Creativeedu close down the staffrooms #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:37@Creativeedu #ukedchat Our curric Based loosely on Reggio Emilia early years
philosophy http://bit.ly/ft2Qdk
julietteheppell 20:37 @CreativeEdu crowd sourcing is defo a form of community cohesion! I
encourage it with students its practical and extremely useful! #ukedchat
sellyeve 20:37 @Creativeedu our VLE project last year got over 100 parents & grandparents
more involved in children's learning - response huge. #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:37RT @Catriona_O: "Sharing creates genius!" #ukedchat - wisdom is definitely
built from within!
kenradical 20:37why is it that teaching is such an insular profession? good discussion tonight
#ukedchat
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carolrainbow 20:37@MrColleyStMarys @missbrownsword that seems really sad - they are the
sort of teachers we want to share ideas :-) #ukedchat
megsamanda 20:38@tombarrett have you ever tried the "speed dating" exercise in a staff
meeting- choosing a topic of relevance #UKEdChat
ianchia 20:38@sellyeve @Creativeedu #ukedchat Hence our "trojan horse" of a
family/school based learning exp: http://j.mp/dIGGG0
tombarrett 20:38 Make it regular and simple, non-threatening #UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:38
RT @julietteheppell: @CreativeEdu crowd sourcing is defo a form of
community cohesion! I encourage it with students its practical and extremely
useful! #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:38@sellyeve how inspiring! have blogged about it or similar so everyone could
see? #UKEdChat
TeacherToolkit 20:38 #UKEdChat What format do schools use to celebrate ex-students Yr11 results?
Formal? VIP? Round-table? Oscars? Postal? Video? #help #TTkit
GaryAveryICT 20:38Twitter and other social media is well received in school but has the stigma of
only geeks tweet...which we all are not #ukedchat
tombarrett 20:38Share something, anything in the first 5 minutes of a staff meeting - helps to
begin the process of sharing #UKEdChat
Catriona_O 20:38@didactylos agree totally! #ukedchat i see crowdsourcing as an activity to be
followed by some sort of process/filtering?
missbrownsword 20:38@MrColleyStMarys @carolrainbow it's a barrier not only to sharing but to
career progression too #ukedchat
josepicardo 20:38 @JamiePortman problem is majority of teachers haven't had their paradigm
shift moment yet, nor are they bothered. We are but a few #ukedchat
ianchia 20:39@CreativeEdu @sellyeve #UKEdChat please see @sendfelicity and
http://j.mp/ej04qG
suebecks 20:39RT @tombarrett Share something, anything in the first 5 minutes of a staff
meeting - helps to begin the process of sharing #UKEdChat
CreativeSTAR 20:39As the saying goes "Knowledge is power, but only if it's shared!" #ukedchat
Does this apply to crowd sourcing?
Creativeedu 20:39 @garyaveryict really? I'm a geek and I'm proud ;-) #UKEdChat
josepicardo 20:39@tombarrett we do termly Show and Tell sessions in our department instead
of formal meeting #UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:39 RT @GaryAveryICT: Twitter and other social media is well received in school
but has the stigma of only geeks tweet...which we all are not #ukedchat
theokk 20:39@CreativeEdu well at least let kids and parents in if you still need the coffee ; )#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:39RT @tombarrett: Share something, anything in the first 5 minutes of a staff
meeting - helps to begin the process of sharing #UKEdChat
carolrainbow 20:39 Oxon Learning Platform is engaging learners and parents alike - and through it
more teachers are sharing - ideas, resources etc #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:39@theokk ha ha! closing down the staffrooms is definitely one way!
#UKEdChat
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Catriona_O 20:40loads of ideas for gathering info tonight but what about processing?
analysing? evaluating? #ukedchat?
carolrainbow 20:40@CreativeSTAR I think it does becasue it draws on a much wider knowledge
base than is usually possible #ukedchat
josepicardo 20:40@carolrainbow my students were using that in the playground today ;-)
#ukedchat
didactylos 20:40 @Catriona_O yes it's like having loads of stuff brought to you and you decidewhat you want to use #ukedchat
GaryAveryICT 20:40 oh no.. Snowballing??? #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:40#ukedchat Twitter is the best for crowdsourcing, shared ideas and
philosophies
mrjstacey 20:40 I did an internal teachmeet at staff meeting, 10 resources in 3 minutes, first
ever applause at a staff meeting sharing followed! #ukedchat
ianchia 20:40 RT @carolrainbow: RT @spx8jkb: I love sharing ideas, shame those in my dept
hate change! NQTs cant get enough! "Sharing creates genius!" #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:40
RT @ianchia: @CreativeEdu #UKEdChat we're inviting
parents/schools/children to combine @sendfelicity http://j.mp/dIGGG0
http://j.mp/gzMKXT
carolrainbow 20:40Snowballing is another form of gathering ideas - I have used that in the
classroom but would work for planning too #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:40@megsamanda @tombarrett we did a 'speed dating' meeting on
differentiation, worked well #ukedchat
sellyeve 20:41 @Creativeedu creating a blog is next project! #ukedchat
colport 20:41@Catriona_O Good point. Are you asking about crowd sourcing an evaluation
process? I do this with pupils. #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:41 Apologies. Urgent phone call will have to take my leave! Will catch up witharchive! #UKedchat
CreativeSTAR 20:41@missbrownsword speed dating! Great minds think alike - I often use this as
an intro to my outdoor CPD sessions! #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:41
RT @ianchia: @JamiePortman #ukedchat A worldwide gallery of
families+schools contribution is our aim. http://j.mp/gzMKXT X1000+
@sendfelicity
tombarrett 20:41 @josepicardo Do they work for oyur staff #UKEdchat
Catriona_O 20:41 @didactylos but is that enough?#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:41so essentially we seem to have agreed that crowdsourcing is sharing with bells
on and it's generally a positive thing? #UKEdChat
ianchia 20:41@JamiePortman #ukedchat A worldwide gallery of families+schoolscontribution is our aim. http://j.mp/gzMKXT X1000+ @sendfelicity
MrColleyStMarys 20:41@missbrownsword I'm having that idea for my NQT insets next week! Ta!
#ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:41@missbrownsword Sounds interesting-please tell us more #ukedchat
sellyeve 20:41 @Creativeedu chn inspired - found out today that since Sept my class last year
have hit the VLE space we created 3,000 times! #ukedchat
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Creativeedu 20:41RT @CreativeSTAR: As the saying goes "Knowledge is power, but only if it's
shared!" #ukedchat Does this apply to crowd sourcing?
didactylos 20:42@Catriona_O nothing is ever enough, it's a lot better than doing it all
yourself.... #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:42@colport no I'm asking about what you do with what you've
crowdsourced#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:42 what is the BEST medium for crowdsourcing? Does anything beat good oldTwitter? #UKEdChat
ianchia 20:42 @CreativeSTAR #ukedchat - Trying to show Knowledge+IMAGINATION is
power, when shared. Pls see: http://j.mp/ej04qG @sendfelicity
JamiePortman 20:42Showcase examples of crowdsourcing like @tombarrett's Interesting Ways:
http://bit.ly/eV4zfm.
Catriona_O 20:42 @CreativeEdu didn't we know that already? #ukedchat?
MrColleyStMarys 20:43 @missbrownsword @carolrainbow Agreed. Planned with 2 of my dept for
observations and was dead proud when they did well! #ukedchat
simfin 20:43if you have examples of learning platform use on snow days could you please
@the_lpn ? #UKedchat TY :)
Catriona_O 20:43@didactylos I'm really not that demanding! I'm just asking!#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:43 @theheadsoffice thanks for joining us #UKEdChat
missbrownsword 20:43several staff were visited by other staff who shared their ideas for
differentiation in 3 mins, can be used for anything tho #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:43RT @colport: @Catriona_O Good point. Are you asking about crowd sourcing
an evaluation process? I do this with pupils. #ukedchat
ebd35 20:43in Jan 1teacher per wk 2share resource/idea that can be used in other classes.
Hopefully help some to think outside box. #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:4415 minutes left in tonight's #UKEdChat about crowdsourcing - and fittingly
we've shared dozens of great links
tombarrett 20:44Interesting Ways have been #crowdsourcing for 3 years - technology not really
changed, nor has the majority of attitudes? - #UKEdChat
tombarrett 20:44Interesting Ways have been #crowdsourcing for 3 years - technology not really
changed, nor has the majority of attitudes? - #UKEdChat
didactylos 20:44@Creativeedu twitter is best for getting involvement but needs another
medium to capture/store/share ideas #ukedchat
AntHeald 20:44RT @JamiePortman: Showcase examples of crowdsourcing like @tombarrett's
Interesting Ways: http://bit.ly/eV4zfm.
clairelowe2 20:44RT @simfin: if you have examples of learning platform use on snow days couldyou please @the_lpn ? #UKedchat TY :)
sellyeve 20:44@Creativeedu twitter good but lacks availability of other approaches
#ukedchat
Janshs 20:45@the_lpn #UKedchat (via @simfin) I've posted some audio podcasts with
work to follow up in prep for next project (Maths) (MLE) (snow)
ianchia 20:45@CreativeEdu #UKEdChat We're trying to use @sendfelicity as a safe venue,
sourced via twitter and FB for parents. Schools can email me.
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Catriona_O 20:45is crowdsourcing feeding the infomation hungry at the expense of deeper
learning? #ukedchat?
Creativeedu 20:45 RT @didactylos: @Creativeedu twitter is best for getting involvement but
needs another medium to capture/store/share ideas #ukedchat
sellyeve 20:45@Creativeedu thanks! - Really pleased as 1 week can be ancient history when
you're only 9! #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:45RT @sellyeve: @Creativeedu twitter good but lacks availability of other
approaches #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:45@Ideas_Factory not sure I explained it well but glad you got the idea!
#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:46
RT @missbrownsword: several staff were visited by other staff who shared
their ideas for differentiation in 3 mins, can be used for anything tho
#ukedchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:46Steven Wright: "When you steal from one person, it's plagiarism. When you
steal from many, it's research." #ukedchat
JMGubbins 20:46
Some pretty interesting opportunities for visualizing data which could come
from crowdsourcing at : http://bit.ly/9s3xp6 #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:46@Creativeedu @didactylos Think Google docs is good for collating and storing
ideas to be shared #ukedchat
JamiePortman 20:46@josepicardo SUPERB point about paradigm shift and teacher reluctance re:
crowdsourcing. That's where we step in?
Creativeedu 20:46So what IS the best means of crowdsourcing it not Twitter - what other
methods do you use? #UKEdChat
sellyeve 20:46@tombarrett love the interesting ways series & it's ongoing accessibility
#ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:47 RT @MrColleyStMarys: Steven Wright: "When you steal from one person, it'splagiarism. When you steal from many, it's research." #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:47 RT @JMGubbins: Some pretty interesting opportunities for visualizing data
which could come from crowdsourcing at : http://bit.ly/9s3xp6 #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:47 RT @MrColleyStMarys Steven Wright When you steal from one person, its
plagiarism. When you steal from many, its research. love it! #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:47
RT @josepicardo: @JamiePortman problem is majority of teachers haven't
had their paradigm shift moment yet, nor are they bothered. We are but a
few #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:47@Catriona_O #ukedchat Isn't Crowdsourcing finding the provocation toachieve emersed learning?
Creativeedu 20:47 RT @ianchia: @CreativeEdu #UKEdChat We're trying to use @sendfelicity as a
safe venue, sourced via twitter and FB for parents. Schools can email me.
Creativeedu 20:48 RT @james_madeinme: #UKEdChat #crowdsourcing has to be more ambitious
than resource sharing and bring parents teachers children together.
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theokk 20:48@MrColleyStMarys we are talking about sharing, not stealing, so logic
doesn't apply #ukedchat
james_madeinme 20:48#UKEdChat #crowdsourcing has to be more ambitious than resource sharing
and bring parents teachers children together.
Catriona_O 20:49@james_madeinme #UKEdChat #crowdsourcing agree! It's about more than
information. It's got to be about what we do with it
tombarrett 20:49I think Twitter has provided me the best crowd > GoogleTools>Maps>Docs>Search>Sites provides the best tools to collaborate
#UKEdChat
carolrainbow 20:49@james_madeinme Agree - and non - tech teachers, outdoor education
specialists etc #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:50@Ideas_Factory as part of process - we need to talk about what the other
parts might be as well #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:50in order to crowdsource you need a crowd or following - how do you build the
right crowd for fruitful sharing? #UKEdChat
didactylos 20:50
RT @tombarrett: I think Twitter has provided me the best crowd > Google
Tools>Maps>Docs>Search>Sites provides the best tools to collaborate
#UKEdChat
Ideas_Factory 20:50 @Catriona_O #ukedchat Crowdsource just means gather ideas by using lots of
brains-not replace thinking-should be used in learning process
carolrainbow 20:50
RT @tombarrett Twitter has provided me the best crowd > Google
Tools>Maps>Docs>Search>Sites provides the best tools to collaborate
#ukedchat
saraloisstanley 20:50@MartynSoulsby search the #ukedchat timeline ( click on the blue link )
sellyeve 20:50Not sure the method is all important - for families/chn the opportunity + real
purpose + real audience v. imp #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:50
RT @tombarrett: I think Twitter has provided me the best crowd > Google
Tools>Maps>Docs>Search>Sites provides the best tools to collaborate
#UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:50 So now that we've shared lots of ideas about the whats and whys of
crowdsourcing, can we put it into practice in a group project?? #UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:51
RT @Ideas_Factory: @Catriona_O #ukedchat Crowdsource just means gather
ideas by using lots of brains-not replace thinking-should be used in learning
process
ianchia 20:51
@carolrainbow @MrColleyStMarys #ukedchat We call it collaboration not
theft. http://j.mp/dIGGG0 using @sendfelicity
Ideas_Factory 20:52@Catriona_O #ukedchat Agreed-talking about other parts of process could
take all night!
ianchia 20:52 @JamiePortman @josepicardo #ukedchat Teachers AND parents need to
pivot. We aim to entice learning http://j.mp/dIGGG0 using @sendfelicity
didactylos 20:52@Creativeedu #ukedchat you ask in twitter and popl appear with ideas
through your own PLN or via retweets
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Networking_Lady 20:52RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat Teacher: 'My stuff's not good enough to share'
Me: Stop sharing it with the 30 children in your class then.
ianchia 20:53 @Ideas_Factory @Catriona_O #ukedchat Better yet use ALL brains 2 inspire a
waterfall of creativity+learning http://j.mp/gzMKXT @sendfelicity
tombarrett 20:53
2) asking on Twitter for help with lesson ideas or links for a subject #UKEdChat
Catriona_O 20:53@Ideas_Factory OK then! but are we not just talking about info gathering now
then? #ukedchat
tombarrett 20:53 #crowdsourcing for us could be so many diff things 1) asking our classes to
contribute/share ideas-use those ideas to help move on #UKEdChat
carolrainbow 20:53 To look at ideas on a theme - take the best and add to them, get children and
others involved could produce something amazing :-) #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:53As we all tweet I imagine we all naturally crowdsource every day - but do our
colleagues I wonder? #UKEdChat
CreativeSTAR 20:53@ianchia #ukedchat Thanks for the link - hope your app is a success. I think
sharing is powerful and empowering...
AntHeald 20:53 @CreativeEdu I'm on an EngLang teachers email list: I don't upload many
resources (take lots!) but do answer loads of questions #ukedchat
josepicardo 20:53@tombarrett it does for some more than other, I must admit #UKEdchat
dream_school 20:54
RT @tombarrett: #crowdsourcing for us could be so many diff things 1) asking
our classes to contribute/share ideas-use those ideas to help move on
#UKEdChat
droomschool 20:54RT @tombarrett: #crowdsourcing for us could be so many diff things 1) askingour classes to contribute/share ideas-use those ideas to help move on
#UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:54RT @tombarrett: 2) asking on Twitter for help with lesson ideas or links for a
subject #UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:54
RT @tombarrett: #crowdsourcing for us could be so many diff things 1) asking
our classes to contribute/share ideas-use those ideas to help move on
#UKEdChat
Catriona_O 20:54I think we all know how to crowdsource here. It wd hv been more interesting
for me to talk about next stage for me #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:54
@ianchia @Ideas_Factory @Catriona_O @sendfelicity Water all of creativity -
lovely idea :-) #ukedchat
tombarrett 20:543) encouraging your pupils to share pulse rate data in one google doc - we all
benefit from the shared data #UKEdChat
JMGubbins 20:54What is the difference between crowdsourcing and collaboration in an
educational setting? #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:54@Creativeedu how do you build the right crowd for fruitful sharing?
#UKEdChat Great question!
theokk 20:54@ianchia agree - plagiarism often used when its collaboration #ukedchat
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MrColleyStMarys 20:54 @theokk Odd how the two are interchangeable is schools though isn't it?
When the kids do either, it's called cheating! Forgot #ukedchat
AntHeald 20:55 People have different skills/personalities- some likely to be more visible than
others. How to integrate less showy/confident? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:55 @catriona_o there are still five minutes left - plus overspill... what would youlike to discuss? #UKEdChat
theokk 20:55 @MrColleyStMarys you are right there ; ) #ukedchat
ianchia 20:55 @CreativeEdu #UKEdChat We're building crowd of parents invested in their
children's learning, driven by Oz's best illustrators @sendfelicity
ukedchat 20:55 Five minutes remain for #ukedchat this week
james_madeinme 20:55#UKEdChat that's why @sendfelicity is so brilliant. It's not about tech at all but
it's impossible without it.
didactylos 20:55@Catriona_O that's the primary activity, others can follow if ppl choose to go
further #ukedchat
dream_school 20:55RT @tombarrett: 3) encouraging your pupils to share pulse rate data in one
google doc - we all benefit from the shared data #UKEdChat
droomschool 20:55RT @tombarrett: 3) encouraging your pupils to share pulse rate data in one
google doc - we all benefit from the shared data #UKEdChat
dream_school 20:55RT @tombarrett: 2) asking on Twitter for help with lesson ideas or links for a
subject #UKEdChat
droomschool 20:55RT @tombarrett: 2) asking on Twitter for help with lesson ideas or links for a
subject #UKEdChat
Creativeedu 20:55RT @tombarrett: 3) encouraging your pupils to share pulse rate data in one
google doc - we all benefit from the shared data #UKEdChat
ianchia 20:56 @theokk #UKEdChat Please visit the potential of @sendfelicityhttp://j.mp/dIGGG0 http://j.mp/gzMKXT http://j.mp/ej04qG
zaltech 20:56RT @tombarrett: 3) encouraging your pupils to share pulse rate data in one
google doc - we all benefit from the shared data #UKEdChat
Catriona_O 20:56 @ianchia I totally agee. But I think ppl hre understand wht U R saying
#ukedchat. It's those that dont who need 2 hear, & we need s'th else!
the_lpn 20:56 RT @Janshs: @the_lpn #UKedchat (via @simfin) I've posted some audio
podcasts with work to follow up in prep for next project (Maths) (MLE) (snow)
Creativeedu 20:57
RT @Catriona_O: @CreativeEdu what do you do once you've crowdsourced??
#ukedchat
didactylos 20:57#ukedchat here's a lot of worry statements tonight rather than seeing the
positives or am I misreading?
carolrainbow 20:57 @AntHeald It is the same in any group - some people are amazing and have
wonderful ideas but hide - we need to encourage them #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:57@CreativeEdu what do you do once you've crowdsourced?? #ukedchat
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Miss_LollyDolly 20:57joined #UKEdChat for the first time this evening and learnt a lot, thank you!
What a productive day!
Creativeedu 20:57less than five minutes left... anything that anyone has left that they want to
discuss... say it now! #UKEdChat
didactylos 20:58 #ukedchat ok work like balance - time for hignfy.....
james_madeinme 20:58#UKEdChat My first time pitching in but have hovered often. Thanks all and
stay warm!Catriona_O 20:58 @CreativeEdu thank you ! #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:58@Catriona_O @CreativeEdu Hopefully form a bank of rich ideas somewhere
that all teachers can access and add to #ukedchat
MrColleyStMarys 20:58 @theokk Maybe that's why teachers are so reluctant to share. Old mindsets
and all that as per @josepicardo s excellent point #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:58so there we go closing question: WHAT DO YOU DO ONCE YOU'VE
CROWDSOURCED? #UKEdChat
mrlockyer 20:59I'm actually planning an inset for Jan2011 based on teachers sharing good
ideas! All this is good stuff! #ukedchat
sellyeve 20:59@CreativeEdu & @carolrainbow - many thanks for great chat! #ukedchat
tombarrett 20:59Is there a doctor on board? http://bit.ly/cRNiV2 take a look at the "Tipping
Point" section, I explain 1st cr srcing ecperience #UKEdchat
carolrainbow 20:59@james_madeinme thanks for joining us James - hope you enjoyed it
#ukedchat
JMGubbins 20:59RT @MrColleyStMarys: @theokk Maybe thats why teachers are so reluctant
to share. Old mindsets and all that #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:59lets not all die in an overdose of unprocessed information #ukedchat
missbrownsword 20:59 realise you have loads of marking to do & add it to pile on your desk! RT
@Catriona_O: what do you do once you've crowdsourced?? #ukedchat
Creativeedu 20:59@didactylos lots of great links and exciting examples have been shared too...
#UKEdChat
Ideas_Factory 20:59Thankyou @carolrainbow and @creativeEdu for a wonderful #ukedchat tonite-
boy does the time go fast!!
Creativeedu 21:00Thanks to all for a great #UKEdChat I'm going to stick around for a few
minutes more...
missbrownsword 21:00thanks to #ukedchat hosts, I lost my voice earlier so I'd better go and find it....
ukedchat 21:00 9pm - A great job from @carolrainbow & @CreativeEdu hosting #ukedchat
this week. Join @dughall same time next week. Poll to follow!
ianchia 21:00 @carolrainbow #ukedchat - This Saturday's seed: http://j.mp/gzMKXT for
@sendfelicity, built into a world wide gallery - w no family left out
carolrainbow 21:00Thanks to everyone for all the wonderful ideas, links and the discussion
#ukedchat
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stevebunce 21:01 RT @carolrainbow: Thanks to everyone for all the wonderful ideas, links and
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Creativeedu 21:05
RT @ianchia: @Catriona_O #UKEdChat - let's make something
wonderful+beautiful+inspiring+creative using crowdsourcing to learn:
http://j.mp/dIGGG0
Catriona_O 21:05 @tombarrett wish that had been where we started! #ukedchat!