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Questions about designing and installing of new parabolic dish.
Matej Petrzilka, OK1TEH www.ok2kkw.com
The building -up of new EME QTH
ARP 11Usti nad Labem
1.12 2018
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Location of antenna versus Moon motionConsidering the location of dish at new EME QTH (elimination of natural obstacles such as trees, bush?) for usage of free path at Moonrise and Moonset in time of high declination for possibility of QSOs >10 000km (like KH6, ZL, VK, FK8, …). The possibility of ground-gain effect on VHF.
-The Declination (abbreviated dec; symbol δ) is one of the two angles that locate a point on the celestial sphere in the equatorial coordinate system, the other being hour angle.
-The sidereal month is defined as the Moon's orbital period in a non-rotating frame of reference (which on average is equal to its rotation period in the same frame). It is about 27.32166 days (27 days, 7 hours, 43 minutes, 11.6 seconds). It is closely equal to the time it takes the Moon to pass twice a "fixed" star.
In OK the Moon can’t get over 67° of elevation, min. Moonrise AZ ± 40°, max. Moonset ± 320°
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Source: UHF meeting 1972 OK1BMW
Location of antenna versus Moon motion
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An example of the effect of declination to length o f common window with KH6.
Location of antenna versus Moon motion
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Attenuation at EME path:b = 207 + 20,5 log f [dB, MHz]
• 50 MHz -242 dB• 144 MHz -251 dB• 432 MHz -261 dB• 1296 MHz -271 dB• 2320 MHz -276 dB• 3400 MHz -279 dB• 5760 MHz -284 dB• 10 GHz -289 dB• 24 GHz -297 dB• 47 GHz -303 dB
Why use the parabolic antenna for EME at all?
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Dashes marks example forDashes marks example forparabolic dish with parabolic dish with øø 0,75 at 13cm band0,75 at 13cm band
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What are the possible types of EME antennas?Horn antennas- Advantage: broad bandwidth, low noise- Disadvantage: large apertures not practical (too long, problem with mount)
Reflector dish antennas- Advantage: high gain, possibility to use more feeds for more bands, large apertures are practical
Yagi antenna- Advantage: small wind resistance, smaller but enough gain- Disadvantage: impractical use for band above 70cm due to noise from cables, problematic polarization switching, single band ability
Source of pictures:http://ok2kkw.com/next/horn_23cm.pdfhttps://science.nrao.edu/science/meetings/2014/14th -synthesis-imaging-workshop/archive/copy_of_AntennasReceivers. pdfhttp://ok1teh.nagano.cz/eme_gal432.htm
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Types of reflectors
Cleanest beam, minimizes standing waves, access to feed, problem with ribs constructions
Source of pictures:https://science.nrao.edu/science/meetings/2014/14th -synthesis-imaging-workshop/archive/copy_of_Antenna sReceivers.pdf
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offset dish – SKA project
Source of picture:https://www.icrar.org/west-australian-innovation-co uld-save-ska-millions
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offset dish – SKA project
Source of picture:https://newsletter.skatelescope.org/enews-august201 8-dish-report
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offset dish – SETI project - ATA
Source of picture:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Allen_Teles cope_Array_-_Flickr_-_brewbooks_(5).jpg
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offset dish – SETI project - ATA
Source of picture:http://inspirehep.net/record/879598/plots
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offset dish – 7,3m OE5JFL> https://www.qsl.net/oe5jfl/hb_offset_jfl.pdf
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offset dish – Green Bank (100m)
2004 of active panels – minimal preciosity 50 µm, operating frequency 0,1 – 110 GHzSource of pictures:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Green_B ank_Telescope
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Dual feeds at EME stations
Static feeds Shifting feeds Rotary feeds
G4HUP (23/13cm)
HB0/DF1SR(23/13cm)
VK3UM, PI9CAM (70/23cm)
Source of pictures:http://www.vk3um.com/VK3UM%20Dual%20Feed.htmlhttps://www.qsl.net/dl4mup/eme/emehistory.htmlhttp://moonbouncers.org/Orebro2017/DL6SH%20EME-acti vity%20Liechtenstein.pdf
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Calculations for center dish antenna
Azimuthal mount Equatorial mount
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SO ≈ ± SparaboloidFor F/D = 0,5
SO = π D2 / 4 Surface of disk
Surface of parabolic dish [m2]
Gi = 10 log [ 0,59 ( π D / λ )2 ]or
Gi = 17,82 + 20 log D + 20 log f
Dish gain [dB]
GdBd = Gi - 2,15
φ = 2 arctg ( 1/ (4F/D) )Irradiation angle for feed
α = 70 ( λ / D )Main lobe bandwidthangle (-3dB)
F = D2 / 16 vDistance of focus
More at:http://www.w1ghz.org/antbook/contents.htm
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Surface of the parabolic dish and wind resistance
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Surface of the parabolic dish and wind resistance
Holes in mesh shouldn’t be larger than 0,1 λ
Source of picture:http://www.rfhamdesign.com
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SM4IVE 13m DISHhttp://www.sm4ive.com/dish.htm
Surface of the parabolic dish and wind resistance
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Calculation of Wind -loadWind force = parabolic dish surface x drag index x stagnation pressure
Total wind-load of the EME dish:
(4,71238898 * 2 * 1121,7) /1000 = 10,57 kN
Pstagnation = 0,5* 1,2992 * (41,67)2 = 1121,7
Source:https://en.wikipedia.org
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EME Gearbox – common solution
Source of pictures - DL1YMK’s presentation: http://moonbouncers.org/A%20semi%20professional.pdf
Gearbox clearance versus dish beamwidth α (°) = 70 ( λ / D )
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Some manufacturers:Sunslew https://www.sunslew.comH-fang https://en.h-fang.com.cn
DL1YMK 3m EME DISH12” for AZ, 9” for ELSource of pictures:
http://ntc8191.co.kr/products/plana-worm-reducer/http://moonbouncers.org/onewebmedia/DL1YMK%20EME201 7.ppt
EME Gearbox – Hourglass 0 backslash
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Gearbox selection – consideration of the specific Hourglass gearbox
Wind-load for10m DISH= ~ 117,2 kN
Wind-load for3m DISH= ~10,6 kN
Torque moment = r x F
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73TNX for your attention