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One bill, 58 hours, 308 MPs. When all was said and done,Bill C-6 passed in the House by a vote of 158 to 113.
All day long, and all through the night, MPs were up and down in the House to speakfor or against legislation to get Canadas postal workers back on the job.
Fifty-eight hours later, it was on to the upper chamber where senators calledwitnesses, quizzed ministers, and discussed clauses and amendments.
iPolitics followed the debate from start to nish morning until night untilmorning. Here you will nd just some of what we saw, heard, photographedduring some very long days at the end of a short but hectic session.
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Some played guitar in the lobbyto unwind. Some broke open achoice bottle o 10-year-old scotch.Others caught naps on the couch
o a colleague, araid to leave the
building.
For three days, Canadas 308MPs ound themselves virtually
living in the halls o Parliament,
caught in the midst o the rst li-buster most current members o
the House o Commons have ever
known.
By the time the libusterwrapped up Saturday night and
Bill C-6 passed by a vote 158 to
113, members o the 41st Parlia-
ment were tired and bleary eyed.However, many o them had
also learned a lot more about par-
liamentary procedure and abouteach other. On both sides o the
House, rookie MPs bonded with
their new colleagues and many
had the chance to deliver theirmaiden speeches.
While the hours were gruel-
ling, some MPs ound their past
lives equipped them well or livingthrough a libuster.
For Conservative MP Kellie
Leitch, the long hours on the ooro the House o Commons pale in
comparison to some shis she has
worked as a doctor. Shelly Glover,Conservative MP or Saint Boni-
ace and a police ocer, ound the
time she has spent on stakeouts
staring at the same door or hourson end were tougher than her
shis during the libuster.
Green Party Leader ElizabethMays past experience in long-haul
negotiations helped her to go or
three days on a mere three hourso sleep. As the only member oher party in the House o Com-
mons, May was so worried shed
miss an important development
that she was araid to leave thebuilding. Instead, she slept on the
couch in Liberal MP Judy Footes
Centre Block oce.
I know not to drink too muchcofee, not to try to get wired, to
eat, drink lots o water, stay o-
cused on the work. I can do a ull48 hours without sleep.
Meals were a bit more o a chal-lenge. While ood was served in
the lobbies on either side o theHouse o Commons, there wasnt
always a lot o choice or vegetar-
ians like May. For example, Friday
nights supper in the lobby wasbee stroganof but May made do
with the noodles and salad.
May said it was even tougher
or Hoang Mai, NDP MP or theMontreal-area riding o Brossard-
Laprairie, who is vegan.
Te Bloc Qubcois our-person
delegation helped pass the time
late Tursday evening by breaking
open a bottle o 10-year old Macal-lan single malt scotch in the oppo-
sition lobby.
NDP MP Charlie Angus said al-
cohol was expressly prohibited inthe NDP lobby.
Te one diference between us
and some o the other caucuses is
that nobody has had any alcohol. I think it has kept us more on
our game.
Instead, Angus and other NDPMPs broke out their guitars to
unwind and pass the time. An-
gus said he learned Chilean songs
rom one o his new colleagues,Paulina Ayala, and Qubcois
songs rom Pierre Dionne Labelle.
Angus used to drive all-nightshis with his band beore he was
an MP, so he is used to doing a 12-
hour all nighter, although he ad-
mitted it was easier to do when hewas younger.
Im actually eeding of the en-
ergy o the new members par-
ticularly the Quebec caucus.Guy Caron, NDP MP or Ri-
mouski Neigette emiscouata
Les Basques, said the libuster
reminded him o his days in thestudent movement. He said the
guitar sessions in the lobby helped.
It was very serious inside (theHouse), but at some point we have
to unwind as well.
For Government House Lead-er Peter Van Loan, who said he
doesnt drink alcohol, it was Diet
Pepsi that got him through the
hours. I used to work night shis. I would work 40 hours on a
weekend two 20-hour shis
with our hours sleep in between.Daryl Kramp, Conservative MP
or Prince Edward-Hastings, was
sel employed or 40 years. imemeant nothing. One hundred hourweeks were sometimes the norm.
Earl Dreeshen, Conservative MP
or Red Deer, worked long hours
or years teaching and running aarm.
Jamie Nicholls, NDP MP or
Vaudreuil-Soulanges, said he
managed about six hours o sleepa night but instead o sleeping kept
nding himsel wanting to watch
CPAC to see how his colleagueswere doing.
Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet, NDPMP or the east-end riding Mon-
treal riding o Hochelaga, gotthrough the libuster by tapping
into her past and the long hours
spent in union negotiations. It
was a very good experience, shesaid with a slightly tired smile.
We got so much experience in
less than a month so that whenwe return in September we will be
pros.
Guitars, scotch, and stolen sleep:Behind the scenes of the libuster
sat, june 25, 2011elizabeth thoMpson
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When I think about postal work-ers, the rst image that comes to
my mind is the postal deliveryellow who comes to my home.
His name is Gary and he pro-
vides mail service to my house.
At my house people are normallyhome during the day, so it is my
85-year-old stepmother who re-
ceives the mail. Like a lot o se-nior citizens and Canadians, a
relationship develops between the
person who delivers the mail and
amilies. It becomes quite a per-
sonal thing.When amilies celebrate the
important seasons and everyone
wishes each other well, it is oneo those cases where the services
that government provides comes
right up against the public in aparticularly intimate and impor-
tant way. I think we all want to
start this debate by realizing that
we need to appreciate the worko those who work in the public
service.
...
Efective labour relations in this
country really do rely on good
aith and we have not seen thatin the actions o the government
here. I, too, as was the member
or AcadieBathurst, was quiteshocked to hear the labour min-
ister describe the situation that
is acing us as a strike. Tat sim-
ply is not true. Tat was the mostbrazen example o propaganda
designed to try to turn peopleagainst these workers that I have
seen, and to see it right here in the
House o Commons is shocking.What we are acing right now is
a lockout. I we did not have the
lockout we would not have this
debate. We would not have thislegislation and people would be
receiving their mail. Te work-
ers who provide that service are
ready to go to work now, but theyare aced with a problem. When
they show up or work there is a
lock on the door and they cannotwork. Tey cannot go into thatsorting plant. Tey cannot go into
the post oce. Tey cannot col-
lect the bag o mail and deliver itto people like my mother-in-law
and lots o other people who are
waiting or their mail.
Tere is a simple solution tothis. I have asked the prime min-
ister repeatedly over recent days
to simply adopt this solution,
which I will say again: primeminister, take the locks of the
door and let us have our postalservice back.It is not a strike. It is a lockout
initiated by the management,
clearly supported by the govern-
ment. We say that it is supportedby the government because i the
government were sincere in sug-
gesting that the strike is causing a
problem or the Canadian econo-my, then it would be taking action
to make sure the mail was deliv-
ered as quickly as possible. Te
simplest way to do that is to take
the locks of the doors, but that is
not the objective, unortunately,despite what is being said.
Te objective is to interere
with the process between work-
ers and management to come toa air collective agreement. Tat,
unortunately, I must conclude, is
the objective.
Te government says it has tolegislate the workers back or eco-
nomic reasons, but i that were
the case, why did it shut down thepost oce in the rst place?
I would again ask the govern-
ment to order Canada Post to
take the locks of the doors. It isan agency o the government. Let
us remember that, and the actions
it has taken have compromised
the Canadian economy. Let usremember that, too. Tat could
be done now. A simple phone call
would get that process sorted out
within hours. I have no doubtabout it, i the prime minister
were to call the CEO, but by sid-ing with the employer here, andby pitting the workers against
the Canadian people as a blatant
attempt to try to divide and con-
quer, as we have seen this govern-ment do beore, the government
has essentially killed the incen-
tive to bargain.
Let us take a look at the impacton the average ull time postal
workers amily during the our
years o the agreement. It turns
out that it would be $857.50 taken
out o the pockets o the postalworkers amily. It is understand-
able why people would be upsetabout this, particularly when the
CEO is going to get a bigger bonus
by virtue o that very reduction.
A government that is preparedto do that to the postal workers,
we have to ask ourselves, who are
they prepared to do that to next?
Who is next?Actual ly, this is why the 33 mil-
lion Canadians ought to be taking
a very close look at this legislation
and asking themselves i they are
next. Will they be hit next? Will
there be user charges to deal withthe huge decit this government
built up, a record decit I might
say? (We are getting commentary
rom the commentariat over hereon the other side.) One is tempted
to respond by suggesting that the
massive corporate tax cuts they
implemented le them with thisdecit and i they ollowed our
advice they would not have one.
Also, what about pensions? Any-one across the country who has
a plan or when they will retire,
and, yes, many do not have a pen-
sion plan so we need to strength-en the Canada Pension Plan to
help all these people, but or those
who do have a pension plan, here
they are looking at a governmentthat is willing to come in and im-
pose on them the ollowing. Tese
workers would not be able to re-tire with the ull pension they
thought they had, which their
amilies understood would be
available or retirement, on whichall amily plans were dependent
on, which plan kept workers go-
ing on some o the worst weather
days when their job involved go-ing door to door or when a work-
ers arm was hurting as they were
sorting the mail.
hat worker was probably
Mail? Its personal thing
Why should anyemployers bargainin good faith if theycan count on thegovernment to stepin and impose whatthey cannot get atthe bargaining table?Where is this going toend?
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thinking that at the end o theday he or she could retire with
a certain pension and would not
live in poverty. he work was
worth it. More time would bespent with amily because a lot
o the work is shit work. Prom-
ises are made to spouses and kidsthat more time will be spent with
them eventually, and a pension
will be there.
Everyone is rustrated when
something they were counting onis not available. When peoples
mail is not delivered, it is tough
and it is very tough or smallbusinesses.
I had a small business once and
I would be paying my contractors
but i the cheque had not arrivedrom the person I had the con-
tract with, it was tough. Tere are
small businesses right now that
are struggling because o thatsituation. Tere are other busi-
ness owners who rely on the mail
as undamental to their business.
We all know about those
particular kinds o businesses.
Tat is why, i we were serious
about these particular businesses,we would take the locks of the
operation and let the workers getback to work.
Why should any employersbargain in good aith i they can
count on the government to step
in and impose what they can-not get at the bargaining table?
Where is this going to end? Once
we allow this sort o thing to
get started, who knows where itcould go?
Tat is why we are proposing
that the laws be changed and
why we cannot support this leg-
islation, because it encouragesemployers everywhere to go out
and test the waters. Look whatthey got at Canada Post. Maybe
we can manoeuvre into a similar
position. Who do we have to call
in the government to get them onside? Who do we check in with? I
guess we will start with some o
those consulting companies that
seem to be populated by ormermembers o the party. Maybe we
will get some advice there but that
is a topic or another day.By sending a message that back-
to-work legislation could be the
new norm or labour negotiations
in this country, the whole notiono good-aith negotiations really
goes out the window and it is a
slippery slope that the govern-
ment wants to orce Canadiansto go down. I simply ask the gov-
ernment i this is really where it
wants to go because it is going tobe very dangerous.
Hand in hand with progressive
parties like the New Democratic
Party, collective bargaining hasbeen one o those engines or
progress or working people. I see
this as a legacy to build upon, notsomething to be torn down.
I am simply not going to sit and
watch the Conservative govern-
ment ollow in the ootsteps o
the U.S. Republicans and theirea Party riends.
We have all been watching oc-
currences in Wisconsin, where
the governor yanked collective
bargaining rights rom 175,000
public employees, and nullied
their rights to decent conditions,gender equality, and air pen-
sions. Tis particular governor isnot even hiding that this is an at-
tempt to cut down the number oworkers. It is not just in Wiscon-
sin, but Ohio, Indiana, and Idaho
are all attacking workers, using
the excuse o austerity.I summarize our essential posi-
tion here.
First, we must not be dividingCanadians in this place by talking
about 55,000 postal workers and
33 million other Canadians. It is
time we started to see each other
as all part o the same people whoare trying to accomplish the same
goals or our amilies. Tat is
what this is about. Tereore, I amasking that we see less o this di-
visive politics, particularly in this
debate because many Canadians
will be ollowing it.I do not want those who deliver
the mail or who sort it on our be-
hal, each and every day, to eelthat they are somehow less than
anyone else.
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This motion, which wouldsuggest a hoist motion, isto move this in six months,unlock the doors of Canada
Post, and for what? Dean Del Mastro
He suggests that if weunlock the doors that thiswould take us back to therotating strikes.
Jack Layton
They should go to the primeminister and tell him to pickup the phone, call the CEOof Canada Post, and tell himto unlock the doors.
Joe Comartin
These neighbours acrossthe country are waiting onCanada Post to unlock thedoors.
Rathika Sitsabaiesan
Canada Post needs tounlock the doors.
Sitsabaiesan
The member had said thatCanada Post must unlockthe doors.
Richard Harris
Could the member let heror the government knowthat if it were to unlock thedoors, problems would be
solved? Claude Gravelle(Nickel Belt, NDP)
Unlock the doors and getthe postal workers back towork.
Jasbir Sandhu
They asked me to tell thegovernment to unlock thedoors
Sandhu
Mr. Speaker, if thegovernment was seriousabout getting the mailmoving, it would unlock thedoors.
Jean Crowder
The government needsto unlock the doors. Thegovernment needs to putthe workers back to workby not legislating them, butlegislating the government
to unlock the doors and thelockout. Tyrone Benskin
Why will the governmentnot unlock the doors?
Dan Harris
Why did the Minister notjust introduce a bill thatordered Canada Post tounlock the doors
Chris Charlton
It must unlock the doors. John Rafferty
If the government wasreally interested indelivering the mail, allit has to do is unlock thedoors.
Claude Gravelle
Call on Canada Post tounlock the doors
Charlie Angus
Clearly, the governmenthas the power to directCanada Post to unlock thedoors
Linda Duncan
Unlock the doors. Irene Mathyssen
Please unlock the doorsnow.
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ruth ellen brosseaubMg, npd
When I think about this, I try toput mysel in the workers shoes.
Ten I think about it rom all per-
spectives. I see not being able to
get ones mail. It is hard.However, being a Canada Post
worker and being locked out o
work and having ones rights vio-lated like this, that is brutal. Tat
is not right.
We really have to stand here and
ght or their rights. We have tostop the lockout. Let us get back to
work. Everybody back to work.
Mylne reeManagpM,
npd
We have to value our workers. Our
communities need every membero the community to be able to live
in dignity. It is upsetting to me
that the members on the other sidehave not quite realized that this is
not about specic groups o Cana-
dians, but about our communities
as a whole.
... At this point, I think we willprobably be elaborating more over
the weekend, but I am a bit too
tired to keep going right now.
pat MartinWg c, ndp
It is now my turn to kill 10 min-
utes, so I am going to set about do-
ing that.
We are all getting tired o hear-ing the same questions and an-
swers back and orth. We all know
we are engaged in this process toallow the parties to continue ne-gotiate in the absence o the dra-
conian and heavy-handed imposi-
tion o the terms and conditions o
their settlement, as ound in BillC-6.
However, it has been a useul
exercise in the sense that, over thecourse o 24 and 36 hours, as we
get more physically exhausted,
this side is getting grumpier and
starting to reveal a little bit more
about who they really are and what
their agenda really is.As they get crankier, they slip
of o the PMOs talking points
and start to reveal how they re-
ally eel about organized labourand about elevating the standard
o wages and working conditions
through ree collective bargain-
ing. We get insight and glimpsesabout how they eel about pension
plans, how they eel about dened
benet plans. We start to see what
they are really trying to do here istake on some big issues.
deence Ministerpeter Mackayc n, cpc
NDP members have wrapped their
arms around working people. I
have heard numerous reerences
throughout the debate this eve-ning to working people. I have a
very simple question or my col-
league rom Nova Scotia, whohas a ne bit o that maritime lilt
and lots o great rhetoric and ery
emotion and passion tonight.Tere is no ownership in work-ing people in any party in this
country, I assure him, and a lot o
working people are being afected
by this strike, he will be the rst toadmit. Small businesses, seniors,
individuals count on the mail ev-
ery day or their very livelihoodsand those o their amilies, to re-
ceive EI cheques, something very
undamental to a lot o people in
Atlantic Canada.
andreW cashd, ndp
oday a CEOs salary is 220 timesthe average workers pay. Whether
one is a small business person, a
worker, a big business person, or
running a medium-sized business,there is something wrong with
that.
laurin liurM, ndp
I am wondering i my hon. col-
league could tell the House aboutthe kind o precedent this back-
to-work legislation sets or uture
generations o workers enteringthe workorce, many o whom
will be young Canadians who
already all within the lowest in-
come brackets o our country, oour society.
eve adaMspm s M v af,
c
oday I was on the phone with aconstituent o mine. She runs a
small business and has been run-
ning it or 11 years. She was on the
phone with me three times today.Cash ow has become critical.
She runs a mail house. Her rev-
enue evaporated earlier this week,
she is looking or some stopgapnancing and on Monday she
needs to decide whether she is
laying of 16 people.
I am here today to implore the
opposition to please allow this
woman to get back to work andallow Canada Post workers toget
back to work. She questions what
really is being achieved by con-
tinuing these debates or some 17or 18 hours. Te point has been
made.
libby daviesv e, ndp
I guess now we are into about our
sixteenth hour. I have been look-
ing at this beautiul calendar onthe table in ront o us and it still
shows Tursday, June 23.I kind o eel like we are in thatmovie Groundhog Day, or what-
ever it was called, where it just
keeps going around. I guess it
might be Tursday or a while
ted hsukg i, l
I agree that what we are doinghere reminds us o that movie
Groundhog Day. But I remember
in that movie progress was made.
Bill Murrays character decidedhe just could not live the same day
over and over again and he tried
to do something to improve him-sel. I am wondering how we can
do the same?
david McGuintyow s, l
We have heard rom the NDP
labour critic that this was an op-portunity or his caucus to have a
learning experience. Some learn-
ing ex perience:How to Filibuster a Bi ll 101.
How to Posture or the Media
101.
How to Wrack Up Expendi-tures or the Canadia n axpay-
ers 101.
I NDP members want to team-
build, they can leave by the back
door o this building and climb
the Gatineau hills.
Everybody get back to workSeen and heard in the House of Commons on that very long June 23
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Procedural wrangling by theNDP to stall the governmentsbill to orce mail carriers back towork could backre and reverse
gains as the party o the people,
according to some experts.
All day long, and all through thenight, MPs o all stripes rose in
the House o Commons to speakor, or against, a procedural bidto shelve the Conservative bill or
six months. Te marathon talk-
est was only a precursor to a po-
tentially much-longer libusterdebate on proposed amendments
and the main legislation. It could
take several days or more beore a
nal vote on Bill C-6.Te NDP move to postpone it
which will inevitably pass with the
Conservative majority is un-
usual, bold, and ultimately, could
prove counter-productive. Mi-chael Behiels, a proessor o histo-
ry and politics at the University oOttawa, believes NDP leader Jack
Layton has walked into a Conser-
vative set-up to cast his party as
hard-line le.Laytons trying to play to his
base, but in doing that, Harper
has him totally ramed, he told
iPolitics. Te damage will con-tinue to be inicted as they reer
to him as this radical socialist
whos under the iron heel o orga-
nized labour.Behiels said the stage is set or
Harper to realize his dream
o realigning Canadian politics decimating the Liberals in the
mushy middle, intensely polar-
izing the landscape, making Con-
servatives the natural governingparty.
And politics aside, Harper has
the recession and recovering
economy on his side to help winthe court o public approval on the
mail delivery issue. Conservatives
read reams o correspondencein the House o Commons romconstituents and business owners
worried about the nancial impact
o the mail stoppage.
Te NDP manouevre could be asignicant misstep with long-term
impact, Behiels said. In the short-
term, Layton has scarce optionsor an exit strategy that saves po-
litical ace.
Hes caught. Teres no way
out hes trapped, Behiels said.Te Conservatives laid the trap,
and now they have tools at theirdisposal to humiliate the NDP
and rame the NDP as radicalsocialists.
While all parties proess the ul-
timate goal is to end the strike assoon as possible, Queens Univer-
sity proessor Ned Franks doesnt
see the Conservatives in any huge
hurry to end the parliamentaryshowdown.
I think Harper is sitting in
the at position, because he can
let Parliament go on as long as it
wants, and ultimately hes going toget his way, he said.
Te already-weak public appe-
tite or political wrangling is wors-ened by the uncertain economic
climate. Franks said the risk or
Layton is that by solidiying sup-
port rom one sector, he is turningof the masses.
Hes got to ask what part o
his electoral support hes want-
ing to appeal to is it the orga-nized unions, or is the vast mass
o people in the Canadian centre
and slightly le who objected tothe Liberals or one reason or the
other and switched to the NDP,
or the Bloc to the NDP, he said.
I get the eeling that among mostCanadians theres not a lot o sup-
port or the postal workers.
Franks said the whole exercise is
a poor example o conducting in-dustrial relations rom evident
aws in the monopolized govern-
ment service, to punitive govern-ment legislation, to politically
driven manoeuvring in the Com-
mons. In the end, Layton may have
a tough time convincing the public
this is a ght based on undamen-tal democratic principle, and could
leave Harper the victor.
Hes a warrior. Hes a brilliant
tactician and strategist, and hasbeen against the Liberals and
probably will be against the NDP
opposition, Franks said. But
hes not a diplomat or a concilia-tor, and hed need those skills to
get out o this. But I think Harper
would much rather sit back and letthe opposition smite itsel to death
than ofer a diplomatic way out.
Labour Minister Lisa Raitt said
the government will ght to thebitter end to pass the legislation
it deems necessary to protect the
ragile recovering economy. She
also urged Canada Post and the
Canadian Union o Postal Work-ers to return to the bargaining
table to settle the dispute on their
own, as parliamentary debate ap-peared set to drag on or days.
Were here to act or all Cana-
dians, not just ocus on whetheror not one party is being avoured
at the table, and let them have this
process that weve put in to the act
which is air and balanced, shesaid.
But the NDP also appeared
ready to dig in their heels.
I we can sit through SaintJean-Baptiste, Im sure the House
wont mind sitting through Can-
ada Day, said NDP deputy leaderTomas Mulcair.
Late Friday night, CUPW is-
sued a memo taking stock o the
massive support in the House oCommons, noting NDP and other
opposition MPs helped expose the
constant distortions and alse-
hoods spread by Canada Post andthe government.
Te union also praised the ral-
lies, demonstrations and occupa-tion o Conservative constituencyoces joined and supported by
student, women, anti-poverty, el-
low union, and other communityactivists.
Postal workers will never orget
this unprecedented solidarity, the
memo read.
With fles rom Meg Wilcox.
Filibustercould
backre,
experts sayri, june 24, 2011kathleen harris
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Monday, june 24, 2011sonya bell
he Upper House lived up to itsname Sunday, with Senatorsdelivering a superior level o debateon the back-to-work legislation
than their Commons counterparts.
Senators called witnesses,quizzed ministers, and discussed
clauses and amendments to Bill
C-6 in detail . Observers praised the
senators or their substantive dis-cussion, in contrast to MPs steady
stream o talking points.
Tats despite sitting at their
desks or one-tenth o the time MPsdid.
Te Senate isnt televised so most
Canadians couldnt compare thedebates. But trust us. Weve got thenumbers on Sunday in the Senate.
41: Te number o times the 1997postal strike and its back-to-work
legislation were cited. Senators
compared and contrasted the two
cases. And Senator James Cowan,the leader o the opposition in the
Senate, dug up an old let ter Stephen
Harper wrote to the Calgary Her-
ald that year in which he voices his
real concerns about Canada Post.Cowan quoted:
Back-to-work legislation only
treats a symptom and not the real
problem with postal service inCanada. Te real problem is the
double monopoly in postal service.Te government gives post oce
management a monopoly over Ca-nadians mail, and then Canada
Post gives CUPW union bosses
the labour monopoly power to shutthe service down. Tat threat still
hangs over the heads o all Canadi-
an amilies and businesses. Its time
to end the double monopoly and togive Canadian consumers a choice
when it comes to mail serv ice. Only
ending the monopoly will ensure
that Canadians are never held hos-
tage by another postal strike.
7: Te number o times the 1991,
1987, or 1984 strikes were men-tioned. Chalk that up to institu-
tional knowledge.
91: Number o uses o clause,
as senators examined the bill bit by
bit.
Senator Cools picked out aclause, 11(2), designed to guide the
arbitrator, and brought it to the
attention o Minister Raitt duringher appearance.
Cools worried:I have never seen a clause like
that. Could you explain why the
words the short- and long-term
economic viability and competi-tiveness o the Canada Post Corpo-
ration would be inserted into the
bill? Could the minister begin by
telling us whether there is any dan-ger as to whether, in the short- and
long-term, Canada Post will be eco-
nomically viable and competitive?
6: Number o uses o subclause.
Now thats deep into the bill.
105: Number o uses o arbitra-
tor. Senators discussed the plan
to put the matter to an arbitrator
who will choose one side or theother, and how air a resolution that
might be.
32: Number o uses oamendment.
Senator George Baked proposed
moving an amendment to say thatthe bill should have been looked
at more careully in the House o
Commons, as many bills should be,
but especially this one.But perhaps the biggest difer-
ence in the two debates was what
wasnt there. MPs, in 30 diferent
ways, called or the government toUnlock the doors!
Number o times Senators grand-
standed with this order? Zero.
Since the Senate isnt televised, itshard to know. So trust us, we werethere, plus weve done the math
House vs. Senate?
Words and phrases that
came up again and again
during 58 hours of debate:
Words and phrases that
came up again and again
during 6 hours of debate:
In the House
By the numbers
In the SenateBy the numbers
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For businesses and charities, the
threat o strike action and the real-
ity o rotating strikes have createdsignicant uncertainty about mail
delivery. Many businesses made
the dicult decision to move tomore costly private-sector provid-
ers to ensure their goods and let-
ters would be delivered.
Tough Canadas economic re-covery continues, it still remains
ragile. I am worried about the
impact o higher delivery charges
on businesses and their customers.Te situation is also afecting indi-
viduals in every Canadian amily.
Couples are wondering when ori their wedding invitations willmake it to their loved ones. Grand-
mothers and grandathers cannot
send birthday cards to grandchil-dren. Students are awaiting uni-
versity acceptances and course
material. Our men and women in
uniorm and their amilies are un-able to exchange all those impor-
tant letters.
Honourable senators, or Cana-
da Post, this work stoppage comes
at a critical time or the corpora-tion. Canada Post was strongly a-
ected by the global recession thatbegan in 2008, like many other
businesses. However, Canada Posthas also experienced increased
competition in its major business
lines, such as domestic letter mail.
Tese pose an extreme threat toCanada Post and postal service
providers around the world. De-
spite alling decline in domesticletter volume, domestic parcels
and ad mail at Canada Post re-
main protable, i only margin-
ally. Te unds rom those prots
are reinvested directly into thecorporation to help acilitate its
modernization.
In 2008, Canada Post beganmodernizing its plants, upgrading
its equipment and rationalizing
its processes all with a v iew to be-
coming more ecient and to posi-tion itsel or the uture.
Canada Post is also making its
acilities saer or its employees,but its cost-cutting and modern-
ization eforts may not be enough
to ensure it remains nancially
sel-sustaining. Te corporation
is hoping to improve its businesssustainability by working with its
employees on the shop oor and
through collective bargaining to
bring about greater ecienciesand more exible ways o provid-
ing its mandate.
As we all know, negotiations
with the Canadian Union o PostalWorkers have ailed, and this work
stoppage has cost Canada Post
dearly. It is compromising its abil-
ity to work and to build toward amore ecient and afordable mail
service to the benet o all Cana-dians. Tis dispute has alreadycost Canada Post more than $100
million. Tere is the long-term im-
pact o users who have switched to
electronic billing and many otherindividuals who may never come
back to Canada Post, and that
cost has not yet been calculated.
Te longer this labour disruptioncontinues, the greater the negative
efects will be on Canada Posts
uture.
Aer eight months o ailed ne-gotiations, this labour disruption
must end now. My colleague the
Minister o Labour has alreadyoutlined what has occurred. Tisback-to-work legislation recogniz-
es that giving the two parties more
time is not the answer. Tis legis-lation precludes a urther strike or
lockout, results in certainty o ser-
vice or Canadians and imposes a
process on the parties to resolvethis issue.
Tis is the only solution or em-
ployees, the employer and, most
importantly, Canadians.
Couples arewondering when
or if their weddinginvitations will makeit to their loved ones.Grandmothers andgrandfathers cannotsend birthday cards tograndchildren.
This workstoppagehas cost
CanadaPostdearly
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CUPW president Denis Leme-lin used his appearance beorethe Senate to discuss the unions
approach to negotiations and tohighlight the act that rotating
strikes were implemented to en-
sure mail delivery was not inter-
rupted or the whole country.Bill C-6 was unnecessary, he told
the senators. It is unair because
it violates the right to bargain. Inaddition, this bill sets conditions
that are diferent than what could
have been obtained through bar-
gaining. Tis bill is completelyunacceptable.
Among those to question Leme-
lin was Senator Jane Cordy. Here
is part o their exchange.
Senator Cordy: Earlier this aer-
noon, Minister Raitt said in de-ence o Bill C-6 that all other av-
enues had been exhausted and that
is why the back-to-work legislation
was put orward. What is the posi-tion o the union? Were all avenues
exhausted beore the back-to-work
legislation was tabled and beore
the lockout happened, or thatmatter?
Mr. Lemelin: It is easy or theminister to say that because at that
moment we were in negotiations
and we were putting pressure onthe employer.
At the same moment Canada
Post decided to lock us out, the
government decided to table thislegislation. As soon as Canada
Post looked at this legislation andsaw this nal ofer selection, it isclear that they just sat down to
wait and said to the union, Let
go o all o your principles and de-
mands and just say Yes to whatwe are ofering.
It was unair to have this back-
to-work legislation tabled because
Canada Post decided to lock usout, so it should have been back-
to-work legislation on Canada
Post.
When we met with Minister
Raitt on June 8 or June 9, we o-ered then that, i the collective
agreement was put back into place,then we would go back to work
and continue to negotiate. We stat-
ed that publicly, I think on June 9
or June 10. Tat is what we oferedto do.
We said the same thing again
to Mr. Chopra, put the collective
agreement back in place and wewill go back to work.
Starting June 15, however, it was
easy or the employer to sit back,
relax and see what would come out
o this legislation. One could say
Canada Post had not been con-sulted on the legislation itsel, but,
or us, there was clearly a coali-
tion between Canada Post and thegovernment on this back-to-work
legislation.
Senator Cordy: So, you were will-ing to go back to work and negoti-
ate
Mr. Lemelin: Yes.
Senator Cordy: rather than
have Bill C-6.
Mr. Lemelin: Yes.
Senator Cordy: Tat is interesting.
This bill is completely unacceptableCUPW president insists it did not have to come down to C-6
It is clear that theyjust sat down towait and said to theunion, Let go of all ofyour principles anddemands and just say
Yes to what we areoffering.
his extraordinary bill hasbeen introduced in the Houseas a result o an unresolved labour
dispute between Canada Post and
more than 50,000 employees o the
Canadian Union o Postal Work-ers, Urban Operations Unit. Now
that the work stoppage has con-
tinued, regular postal service has
ceased. Canadians are turning toParliament or a solution. Tat is
what I am here to talk about today.
Context is important so that theextraordinary measures in the bill
can be better understood. Let me
start with three important points.
First, a reliable postal servicewithout interruption is an impor-
tant part o what keeps our econo-
my running smoothly.Second, when that service is in-
terrupted, or when the reliability
o that service is put into doubt,
it does more than just create aninconvenience, costs are incurred
and they are paid by Canadian
amilies and Canadian businesses.
Tird, many months havepassed since this labour dispute
began and there is no end in sight
in which the parties can reach a
settlement on their own.Given these acts, Parliament
has an obligation to act and to do
so in the best interest o the Cana-dian economy.
Context isimportant ...
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Senator Dallaire: You are the two
most senior ocials at Canada
Post. As such, you are accountable
or the successes and ailures oyour operations and those o the
corporation. Your role is twoold:
to manage resources, includinghuman resources, and to show
leadership.
When we look at this bill and
the reasons why, as leaders, wehave to resort to using back-to-
work legislation, I see a shortall
in terms o leadership, or perhaps
in management.Given that these issues are be-
ore us here in Parliament, I am
wondering what you plan on do-ing. On uesday or Wednesday,
when people return to work, I
want to know specically what
your reconciliation plan is oryour unionized workers who
have been prepared to continue
working despite this rather nega-
tive situation.
Mr. Chopra: Senator, you
made several comments about
leadership, and I could not agree
more. Beore I answer the question,I would like to salute your service
to the country, and your contribu-tions. You are certainly a great role
model or us to learn rom.Leadership matters, indeed. I
think leadership is about making
dicult choices. We could havemade the easy choice o taking
on a long-term cost burden. Tat
would have been the easy choice.
Te generation aer me would beasking why the tough choices were
not made to sustain the corpora-
tion or the long term. Canadians
expect their Crown corporations
management to take a long-termview and to nd the right balance.
When times are good, we have
been successul.Te second question you asked
was whether we are prepared with
a specic plan. Indeed, our desirewas not to reach a stage where we
have 12 days o rotating strikes.
Indeed, we did not oresee a sus-
pension o service under the cir-cumstances I explained earlier. A
lot o work needs to be done, andI can assure you that many people
in our human resources opera-
tions and many other aspects othe organization are working
on exactly the question that you
raised. It is not necessari ly just or
the sake o making sure that we dothis and welcome employees back
in a cer tain manner, but or longer
term healing. It is important that
employees understand why wewent through what we did.
At the same time, specic plans
are being drawn up with ourteams so that we can tell our su-
pervisors and managers how to
approach and handle questionsand answers.
Senator Dallaire: I will repeat my
question. You two are the lead-
ers. Te Canada Post Corporationlooks to you or its strategic orien-
tation, its mission, its culture and
its work environment. Te two o
you share these responsibilities.My question is specic. What do
you intend to say to bring about
a reconciliation with your subor-
dinates? What personal initiative
will you take? What arguments
will you use to eliminate the ric-tion caused by this business deci-
sion that, in the end, is unpopular
with your employees?
Mr. Ct: We started meeting
with our employees about threeor our years ago. A very spe-
cic communications plan was
established or our employees.
Last year, we met with employ-ees rom all our depots once or
twice. We visit the depots and the
work sites in all our major acili-
ties. We began this dialogue withour employees in order to explain
that the postal sector has reached
a turning point. Troughout the
world, the volume o mail is de-creasing by 4 to 5 per cent. Te
postal sector will have to adapt to
these changes.When the rotating strikes began,
we were very cautious, in order to
maintain good labour relations
and to ensure that there would be
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Everything depends onyour words. They will
live by what words youwill say, and you areaccountable for that.
no conict. Staf was instructed
on how to welcome employees on
their return to work. We wil l have
to resume the communicationsplan with our employees, explain
to them again what we want to
do and why, and that we had verylittle leeway.
Salaries take up 65 per cent o
Canada Posts revenue. Revenue
is declining by 3 to 4 per cent peryear. Last year, letter mail revenue
decreased by 4.5 per cent, with
each percentage point represent-
ing $30 million. With stable ordeclining revenues, we have very
little room to manoeuvre when
it comes to increasing employeeswages.
We tried very hard to explain
the situation to our employees. I
believe that employees have a air-ly good understanding o the situ-
ation. Our eforts in recent years
will help us when work resumes
this year.
Senator Dallaire: I nevertheless
believe that it is hard to say that
you have been successul given
that you were orced to resort tosuch a measure to close the gap
between what employees in yourorganization expect, through
their union, and what you haveproposed.
Tereore, I will repeat my ques-
tion. Your philosophy, Mr. Cho-
pra, has been articulated and peo-ple know it well. However, will it
be reintroduced when employees
return to work or will you wait orthe end o negotiations to resume
the dialogue?
Te Chair: Is there a reply?
Senator Dallaire: I want to know
what you will tell them on ues-
day, you as the leader. You arethe head o this whole thing. Ev-
erything depends on your words.
Tey will live by what words youwill say, and you are accountable
or that. What are the words o
reconciliation you will have, hav-
ing had to go through this processto bring them back to work?
Mr. Chopra: I I could answer
again on that point, the journey
that the company started almost
18 months ago o sharing withemployees why we need to do
what we are trying to do, i we be-lieve that is the journey, then we
have to continue the journey.As ar as healing is concerned,
the specic plans will include
having the small town hall s where
we can have those employeesask dicult questions. We have
never shied away rom answer-
ing dicult question to our ownemployees.
We go on the midnight shis,
the morning shis and the eve-
ning shis. Tere are specic
town halls that have happened or
18 months. Tere will be an evengreater need to ensure that we can
answer those questions, not just
at the most senior level but at theront line and middle manage-
ment levels. Tey need to be able
to answer those questions: What
transpired, why we are here andwhat is the way orward? Where
will the company go rom here?
I go back to the same thing:
Employees, in any organization,or or that matter in any institu-
tion, want to be part o the win-
ning team.Tey want to be part o someone
who will take the company or-
ward. Having that growth mes-
sage, understanding where we cangrow and where we cannot grow,
where we have to deend, we have
to be honest and upront.
Tat is the message we plan togive our employees, both our-
selves as well as our ront line and
mid-management.
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I eel so rustrated. I eel l ike a mom
who wants to call time out. I eel
that all the members on all sides o
this House have good intentions
but we cannot seem to meet in the
middle.
I honestly believe we could get
people back to work.
We could open those doors i we
reduced the partisanship o the dis-
cussion and started trying to gureout where we could come together
because we want the mail to move
and we want the workers to be
respected.
Mr. Speaker, I enjoy standing up as
I have been in the House uninter-
rupted without sleep or 31 hours. I
mention this not with any sense o
bravado, but merely to apologize in
advance i anything I say is some-
what less than coherent.
I will speak to the motion in a
couple o ways. I nd the challenge
o being original, aer 31 hours o
debate, is my main obstacle. We
have heard a lot o very ne words
on all sides o the House, but it has
become, and I hope I do not ofend
anyone, a little repetitious.
Let us surprise the people o Can-
ada by having the members o the
41st Parliament act diferently. Let
us actually get together out in the
corridors perhaps people are al-
ready doing it and remove those
sections o Bill C-6 that are unac-
ceptable to at least this side o the
House.
Let us nd a way that gets the
postal workers back to work as
soon as possible which satises all
the needs o the people that we haveheard so much about, the people
who need their glasses, the deliv-
ery o ood to the north, services
to small communities. All o those
needs and hurts wil l be mended the
minute we take the locks of the
door and get people back to work.
People who want their mail deliv-
ered do not really care whether we
keep section 15 in Bill C-6 or not.
I beg o all o us in the next ew
hours that we nd a way and maybe
hoist ourselves out o hoist amend-
ments ...
One group o people in the House
believes the best way to get the mail
moving is to push through Bill C-6,
come hell or high water. One group
o people in the House thinks the
best way to get the mail moving
again is to ght as hard as pos-sible against Bill C-6 in the hope
that somehow, while we are in this
place in our suspended animation
o June 23, there will be some prog-
ress somewhere else that solves the
problem.
Te astest way to get the mail
moving, which I know is their No.
1 objective, is to change Bill C-6
through amendment that allows
all o us in this place to agree that
we have respected collective bar-
gaining rights, the labour laws o
Canada and Canadian workers andwe have acted quickly in the inter-
ests o all people, whether they are
small business people or amilies
waiting or cheques.
We should not allow ourselves to be
so enamoured by our own rhetoric
that we orget that the astest way
to get the mail moving is to amend
Bill C-6 so that we can al l agree, get
the mail moving and go home at
some point this weekend.
I feel like a mom who wants to call time out,Elizabeth May confesses during debate
Green Party LeaderElizabeth Mayw . a mm h, w m m. h m w g :
Three days, little sleep, plenty to ponder
I will begin by congratulating and
thanking Senator MacDonald or
a well-balanced speech, not sur-
prising given his background andhis instincts as I have observed
them over the years. His speech
was merciully ree o some o the
ofensive rhetoric that we heardrom the government side in the
House o Commons during this
debate.Frankly, it was almost righten-
ing to hear some o the reerences
rom some Conservative members
about union bosses and unionhalls, as i those were un-Cana-
dian places, alien, perhaps, even
seditious.
I have not heard tone like thatabout unions in this Parliament in
all o the time I have been here.
I think one would have to goback to the Winnipeg General
Strike to hear comments like that
rom leaders, or perhaps go back to
what Senator MacDonalds grand-parents and mine told us about the
miners strikes in Cape Breton in
the 1920s.
It is somewhat rightening tohear that tone o debate and argu-
ment in the other place. I do not
think I wi ll hear much or any o ithere.
It is somewhatfrightening tohear that toneof debate
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he libuster over the ederalback-to-work bill or CanadaPost employees reveals the Con-servatives are prepared to act with
a heavy hand to protect Canadas
economic interests.
And while the Liberals workedto stake out the sensible middle
ground, the large absence o MPs
in the House reects the margin-alization o the once-mighty party.
Te NDP, in its new role as O-
cial Opposition, demonstrated it
will not roll over to give the rulingConservatives a ree ride espe-
cially on such undamental issues
as workers rights.
By going the libuster route,they did something very shrewd,
University o oronto political
scientist Nelson Wiseman told iP-olitics. Tey are the opposition.
Tey can use a lot o levers they
couldnt as the third party. Tey
made a statement that said, Werein charge.
While some observers believe
the NDP walked into a trap set by
the Conservatives, Wiseman in-sists the party was appropriately
exing its muscle while solidiying
its base, much as Stephen Harperhas oen been commended or
doing. Te strategic manoeuvringwon support rom the NDPs key
constituencies organized la-
bour and Quebec voters.
Allowing the Conservatives toquickly pass C-6 would have sig-
nalled the NDP was not yet ready
to be a erce opposition to theConservatives, he added.
Te Conservatives knew rom
the start that getting postal work-ers back to work and mail movingwas popular with most Canadians.
I believe the Conservatives rel-
ished the NDPs aggressive obsti-
nacy on the issue, as the majorityo public opinion is not sympa-
thetic to government employees
such as postal workers, Wiseman
said.Wiseman predicted many show-
downs and clashes to come with
Canadas new political reality, andNDP national director Brad Lavi-
gne said the Harper governmentshould not expect an easy ride just
because it holds a majority.Te opposition has many tools
and rom time to time, the leader
and his caucus will use the tools
at their disposal, he told iPolitics.We take the responsibility o o-
cial opposition very seriously, and
we will use the tools judiciously
and when warranted.Lavigne said the libuster o-
cially put the Conservatives on
notice that that the opposition is
strong, united and committed to
ghting against awed legislationand bad policy.
Yet by taking the hard-line on
the bill reusing to budge on
any o the NDP-proposed amend-ments the Conservative govern-
ment signalled it will exercise all
the powers it holds as a majority,
especially on money matters.Everyone keeps asking what
the message out o this is, Labour
Minister Lisa Raitt told CVsQuestion Period. Te messageout o this is, Parties, do your
deals yourselves, at your table.
I you think that governmentsgoing to go to Parliament and ask
or them to intervene, this is the
solution that youre going to get.
Because were going to give the so-lution thats best or the economy
which is a quick solution to the
matter, and were going to make
sure the economy is protected in
terms o service.Raitt rejected suggestions the
government was attempting to
kill unions or sidestep collective
bargaining. Te Conservativeswill not intervene in every labour
dispute, she said, but will step in
on national matters when there is
a risk to Canadas economy.Raitt denied the underlying
political strategy was to trap theNDP. She insisted the goal was to
introduce and pass appropriatelegislation, adding that govern-
ment did not anticipate the NDP
would wrangle to stall the bill.Troughout the libuster, the
Liberals attempted to stake out
ground as the moderate, middle
ground, suggesting debate overthe back-to-work bill clearly re-
ected the polarized dynamic o
a House o Commons divided be-
tween a neoconservative, hard-
right government and a socialisthard-le ocial opposition.
During most o the marathon,there were only a handul o Lib-
erals present. Wiseman said it be-
came starkly ev ident how margin-
alized the Liberals have becomeand how much work they need to
do to rebuild status.
Tey have a historic legacy, he
said, but thats about it.
Three long days on Hillsignal that Parliament
is in for a profound shiftin the next four yearssun, june 26, 2011kathleen harris
The message out ofthis is, Parties, do yourdeals yourselves, atyour table.
Labour Minister
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Welcome to the New World OrderMon, june 27, 2011don neWMan
Watching the mini session oParliament that merciullyended on the weekend, it was pos-sible to see the unolding o thepolitical New World Order.
Te session dragged past its June
23 end date because the New Dem-
ocrats libustered the back-to-work legislation to end the Canada
Post lockout and strike.
As the ocial Opposition with
103 members, the NDP has thebench strength to keep the libus-
ter going in a way the party never
could beore.
No one is going to mess orga-
nized labour, in particular with
Stephen Harper and his majority
Conservative machine.Te only problem is that the peo-
ple directly afected by the back to
work legislation and the libuster the postal workers wanted
the MPs to stop talking.
Te workers correctly realized
their bargaining power was lostthe second the legislation was
introduced.
Better to let the bill be passed
with a symbolic protest, get backto work, and start getting paid
again.
But to the union movement back-to-work legislation is an anathema.
In principle, the NDP agrees.
So despite the act that the li-
buster was costing the posties and that its members wanted the
talking to stop it dragged on to
make the ideological point.
Te Conservatives have been just as ideological, o course. So
ar with the majority Harper gov-
ernment, there have been two na-tional strikes, Canada Post and
Air Canada, and two pieces o
back-to-work legislation.
Air Canada and its workers set-tled beore the legislation could go
through Parliament, but the mes-
sage rom the government was the
same as with the post oce: Noone is going to mess organized
labour, in particular with Ste-
phen Harper and his majorityConservative machine.
So with a Conservative Govern-
ment ready to order strikers backto work, and an NDP ocial Op-
position ready to deend the rightto strike, the next our years could
see a number o re-runs o thelibuster that dragged into MPs
summer holidays.
Conventional wisdom has it
that both the Conservatives andthe NDP will moderate and mi-
grate toward the political centre
in order to consolidate their recent
electoral gains.Conventional wisdom may turn
out to be correct. But not yet.
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Before the overnight sitting was confirmed,
Tony Clement asked a very relevant question,
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The Bill C-6 libuster astold by MPs on Twitter
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June 25, 8:15 p.m.
After a completely unnecessary delay, Im nevertheless pleasedthat very soon Canadians will again have access to their postal
service, particularly small businesses and charities and, of course,this is the only thing that Canadians ever really wanted.
PM Stephen Harper