the next generation of auditors presentation
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Mark Salamasick CIA, CISA, CRMA, CSP
Director of Center for Internal Auditing Excellence
The University of Texas at Dallas
For
Houston IIA Chapter
November 3, 2014
Where Will the Next Generation of Internal Auditors Come From?
The Fight for Talent!
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Mark Salamasick, CIA, CRMA, CISA, CSP
Director of Center for Internal Auditing, UTD 11 Yrs.
Adjunct Faculty, University of Texas at Dallas 18 years
SVP, Internet/Intranet Services, Bank of America 2 years
Director IT Audit, SVP, Internal Audit, Bank of America 18 years
Senior Consultant, Accenture 4 years
Instructor of Accounting and Information Systems, Central Michigan University 3 years
BS in BA and MBA Central Michigan University
Numerous IIA International Committees since 1990 currently on Learning Solutions and previously the Board of Trustees of the Research Foundation
Four books published by IIA International
Chartered and Past President of Two Toastmaster Clubs
Recruited hundreds of entry level auditors for twenty years and trained hundreds of college hires over eleven years
Enjoy running, road and mountain biking, traveling, speaking and financial investments
Agenda
Past
Present
Future
PAST
Where have internal auditors
come from in the past?
Quick
Survey
Where did you start your career?
Public Accounting
Industry
Government
Were you aware of the profession of Internal Audit at that time?
Quick
Survey
What job did you start with?
Internal Audit
External Audit
Tax
Something Else
Other companies
Universities
Public accounting firms
What do successful UTD IAEP
students look like and where
did they go?
IAEP gave me the tools I needed to start my career on the right path. The program is designed to build communication, risk assessment, and process design skills that are essential for any career decision.
Kunaal Sarna, Microsoft
The IAEP program at UT Dallas offers a variety a networking opportunities important for any career searching/planning including receiving offers for an internship and/or full-time position.
Michael Callahan, Lennox International
The IAEP program served as the foundation and gateway into a career that provides the fundamental knowledge of management, solid business practices and understanding of an organization in its entirety. I have leveraged that experience into other career fields and realized that a base knowledge of internal auditing is an invaluable tool set that is critical to the success of any project, any career.Cynthia Nguyen, UT Southwestern Medical Center
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PRESENT
Baseline - Profile Group
Positions
Size of Audit Groups
Size of IT Audit Groups
Openings
Is this Realistic?
Requirements Experience and Education (Audit Senior):
Bachelors degree in Accounting.
CISA designation required.
CPA or CIA preferred.
3+ years of audit experience (Big 4/public experience preferred).
2+ years of IT Internal Audit experience.
Prior experience in performing SOX-related audits.
Prior experience in the financial services industry.
Advance skills with the following Microsoft products: Excel, Word, Visio, PowerPoint, and Access.
Really?
Job Requirements (Audit Senior):
Bachelor's degree in Accounting or Finance, or similar business degree
Minimum of 5 years of auditing experience in public accounting and/or a corporate internal audit
In-depth knowledge of and experience applying audit principles, practices, and procedures
Strong knowledge of Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) and Sarbanes-Oxley (SOX)
Ability to document, analyze and make improvement recommendations in processes and controls
Proficient in Microsoft Office Suite
Excellent verbal/written communication skills
Ability to multi-task and adapt to changing organizational and departmental needs
Ability to work collaboratively with all departments, management levels within the company, and external stakeholders
Relevant certification such as CPA, CIA or similar
Must be able to travel up to 30% of the time
Operations, JDE, Hyperion and ACL experience a plus
This is more like it!
Desired Skills and Experience
MUST HAVE:
Strong investigative and analytical ability required.
Excellent consultative and judgment skills, confidentiality, and interpersonal ability.
Must be able to communicate effectively with employees at all levels.
Must have the ability to negotiate and influence results without direct authority.
Thorough understanding of accounting principles and standards.
Bachelors Degree in Accounting, Finance, or related field required (Masters from an IAEP program preferred).
Minimum of 5 years healthcare auditing related experience.
Certified Public Accountant (CPA) or Certified Internal Auditor (CIA) required.
NICE TO HAVE:
ACL and/or IDEA experience preferred.
Have you looked here lately?
Chapter Job PostingsNRG Energy - Sr. Internal AuditorLocation:Houston, TexasDate Posted:October 22, 2014Date Ending:November 22, 2014Swift Energy Company Internal Auditor IILocation:Houston, TXDate Posted:October 14, 2014Date Ending:November 15, 2014Allegiance Bank Texas - Senior AuditorLocation:Houston, TXDate Posted:October 13, 2014Date Ending:November 12, 2014Harris County Auditor's Office - Audit ManagerLocation:Houston, TXDate Posted:October 13, 2014Date Ending:November 12, 2014Harris County Auditor's Office - Manager Construction/Contract AuditLocation:Houston, TXDate Posted:October 13, 2014Date Ending:November 12, 2014Harris County Auditor's Office - Senior AuditorLocation:Houston, TXDate Posted:October 13, 2014Date Ending:November 12, 2014
What is changing?
Public Accounting
Public Corporations
Government
Private Firms, Private Equity, and IPOs
Increased demand
More retiring
More control-related positions
More rotational strategies in audit groups
More demand in other parts of company
Higher level IT knowledge
Decreased supply
Public accounting
Universities
Other organizations
Full employment
What is the Population of Schools Teaching Internal Audit?
82 US Schools out of 460 AACSB Accredited Universities
32 US Schools part of IAEP program
Limited interest among Universities to start new programs
Many programs are struggling
IAEP programs
Orlando, September 2014
2011 Orlando IAEP Conference
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Three types of programs
Centers
Comprehensive
Foundation
Centers for Internal Auditing Excellence
The University of Texas at Dallas
Louisiana State University
University of Houston
University of Pretoria
Erasmus University Rotterdam
University van Amsterdam
What have I noticed about Students?
They dont know where they want to work
They dont know what they want to do
They dont understand career alternatives in risk management
They dont all come in with the same backgrounds and perspectives
They are eager to learn
Why New Programs Wont Be Created
Lack of a Champion
Many barriers in starting new internal audit programs
Marketing internal audit to students is difficult
Some false starts in new academic programs
Even current programs in internal audit will have difficulty staying at least status quo
Potentially some schools teaching internal audit
FUTURE
Options for future staffing
Maintain current staff
Decrease staffing when auditors leave
Recruit from other companies
Recruit individuals in career transition
Hire internal audit students from Universities
Hire students from Universities
Co-sourcing/outsourcing will increase
Future Demand/Supply of Internal Auditors
Demand for internal auditors and risk management professionals will continue to increase significantly
Winners will be those with staffing/recruiting strategy and long term outlook
Losers will be those who recruit randomly
Other areas of the organization
http://www.independentaudit.com/broaden-internal-audit-skills/
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Understand why people leave!
Dont like my boss
Travel
Career advancement
Promotion
Salary/Benefits
No room for advancement
Create Pipeline of Talent
Student volunteers(Unpaid)
Students want experience
Good way to test and gain experience
Paid formal internships
Full time while going to school
Winning the war for talent:
Actions steps
Differentiate yourself
What are Internal Audit students looking for in an employer?
Survey Says
Opportunities for Growth and Advancement-19
Work/Life Balance-14
Competitive Salary/Benefits-13
Good Corporate Culture-12
Flexibility - 11
Diversity in Work-7
Constantly Learning/Training-3
Challenging Work-3
Recognition/Feel Wanted - 3
Great Leadership-2
Good Travel - 2
Highly Technical Environment - 2
Does the Board think Highly of Audit - 2
Southwest Airlines
Student Chapter Event
Southwest Airlines
Student Chapter Event
Continually network
Visit a campus
Speak to a class
How to attract students?
Advocate the Profession in many ways
Faculty/Staff
Sense of Community (IIA/ISACA/ACFE
Student Chapter)
Cross discipline approach
Lots of large events
Create lots of disciples
Scholarships
Advocate for Academic
Relations and the Profession of Internal Audit
Denny Beran
How can YOU help?
Advocate the Profession
Invest in the Future
Money
Time
Talent
Treasures
Why You All Need To Help!
MARK BEGINS AGAIN AND WRAPS UP
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Lack of new talent entering internal audit
Shortage of internal auditors will get significantly worse
Need to advocate the profession in many ways
Very few new classes and programs
Everyone in this room can help!
The Future Internal Auditors
Dallas IIA Super Conference October 24, 2014
Getting started
Building relationship with faculty
Advocate the profession
Mentor students
Mentor those in career transition
Class Presentations
Student Groups
Be an advocate for the profession in many ways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi1L-0wC7wA
https://na.theiia.org/about-us/about-ia/Pages/Academic-Relations.aspx
Questions and Comments?Email: [email protected] Phone: (972) 883-4729Cell Phone: (972) 768-3016Office: University of Texas at Dallas Jindal School of Management-4.218 800 West Campbell Road, SM 41 Richardson, TX. 75083-0688 Website: jindal.utdallas.edu/iaep
For Additional Resources
https://na.theiia.org/about-us/about-ia/Pages/Academic-Relations.aspx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi1L-0wC7wA
http://jindal.utdallas.edu/centers-of-excellence/center-for-internal-auditing-excellence/
https://www.utdallasiia.com/