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Muslims Do Not Comprehend The Bible:

INTRODUCTION:

Muslims clearly do not comprehend the Bible and see problems where

there are none, and come to completely wrong conclusions. This is

strange given the fact that their holy book is actually a takeoff from

the Bible. Let's look at a few instances where they utterly fail to

comprehend, one of them in fact where their book is actually saying the

same thing as the Bible in different words.

LUKE 1:35 VS. SURA 3:47:

Let's first look at what the Quran (Koran) says at Sura 3:47:

Sura 3:47, "She said, "My Lord, how can I have a son, when no man has

touched me?" He said, "GOD thus creates whatever He wills. To have

anything done, He simply says to it, `Be,' and it is."

And, Sura 3:48 says, ""He will teach him the scripture, wisdom, the

Torah, and the Gospel." Interestingly here the Quran (Koran)actually speaks of the first five (5) books of the Bible, the Torah;

yet today many Muslims rail against the Bible from which their book the

Quran (Koran) was plagiarized from.

Now the Bible says at Luke 1:35, "And the angel answered and said unto

her, The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Most

High shall overshadow thee: wherefore also the holy thing which is

begotten shall be called the Son of God." (American Standard Version;

ASV).

Interestingly although both the Quran's (Koran's) 'Be' and the Bible's

(in some translations only) overshadow both refer to exactly the same

thing, but use different words, some Muslims do not comprehend this

and think overshadow has bad connotations. Both these passages refer

to God's (YHWH) using his active force or power referred to in the

Bible as Spirit or Holy Spirit to implant the life force of his only

begotten Son, that we know as Jesus (Yeshua) into the womb of the

virgin Mary as recorded in Matthew 1:18-25, "Now the birth of Jesus

Christ was on this wise: When his mother Mary had been betrothed to

Joseph, before they came together she was found with child of the Holy

Spirit. 19 And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man, and not

willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away

privily. 20 But when he thought on these things, behold, an angel of

the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of

David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is

conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. 21 And she shall bring forth a

son; and thou shalt call his name JESUS; for it is he that shall savehis people from their sins. 22 Now all this is come to pass, that it

might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet,

saying, 23 Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bring

forth a son, And they shall call his name Immanuel; which is, being

interpreted, God with us. 24 And Joseph arose from his sleep, and did

as the angel of the Lord commanded him, and took unto him his wife; 25

and knew her not till she had brought forth a son: and he called his

name JESUS." (ASV). Now some may not understand just what this force

or power of God (YHWH) is so here is a brief explanation.


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A brief consideration on and reasoning on Acts 10:19-20; Acts 16:6;

Acts 13:2-4; Acts 15:28; Romans 8:14; Romans 8:26; Ephesians 4:30; and

1 Corinthians 2:10-12 will show that the Spirit or Holy Spirit is God's

(YHWH's) active force or power and emanates from him and is a force

completely controlled by him, and is capable of giving him feedback and

gathering for him information.

But first let's see why the Spirit is indeed God's (YHWH's) active

force or power from an understanding of the ancient word 'pneu'ma'

translated Spirit or Holy Spirit in English. The neuter Koine Greek

word for spirit (pneu'ma) is used with the neuter pronoun "it" since it

is lacks gender. This fact is conveniently over looked or hidden by

most Trinitarian translators of the Bible as admitted in the "New

American Bible Catholic Bible," regarding John 14:17: "The Greek word

for 'Spirit' is neuter, and while we use personal pronouns in English

('he,' 'his,' 'him'), most Greek MSS [manuscripts] employ 'it.'" So

when the Bible uses masculine personal pronouns in connection with

para'kletos at John 16:7, 8, it is conforming to rules of grammar,

not expressing a doctrine. And in Ancient Hebrew the word here

rendered Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, or Spirit which is translated from'ru'ach' meaning "breath; wind; spirit." In Latin, it is spiritus,

and in Sanskrit, 'prana' which means both "breath" and "spirit." And

the pertinent definition in the Funk & Wagnalls Standard College

Dictionary (ISBN 0-308-10309-2 and 0-308-10310-6) clearly states, (4)

In the Bible, the creative, animating power or divine

influence of God...[etymology-[


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spirit of the world, but the spirit which is from God; that we might

know the things that were freely given to us of God." (American

Standard Version; ASV), clearly showing that the "spirit which is from

God," and God "revealed [them] through the Spirit," and uses it to

search all things, thus showing it is a controlled spirit capable of

feedback. God (YHWH) has complete control over his power or force and

can choose its fields of operations as testified to at Romans 8:14,

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God."

(ASV) clearly showing he can use to lead individuals and that it

belongs to him. And John 16:13 clearly shows it as a force, "Howbeit

when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the

truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he

shall hear, these shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the

things that are to come." Since it is quite clear that it is a

controlled force, "shall not speak from himself; but what things soever

he shall hear, these shall he speak,"

Clearly it is a controlled force used by God (YHWH) to do many things

as testified to at Acts 10:19-20, "While Peter was meditationg on the

vision, the Spirit said to him, 'There are two men looking for you. 20

Get up and go down, and without hesitation go on with them, for I havesent them.'" (The New Testament by Charles B. Williams); And the fact

that it is a closely controlled force is further affirmed at Acts 16:6,

"And the Spirit bade me go with them, making no distinction. And these

six brethren also accompanied me; and we entered into the man's house:"

(ASV); And at Acts 13:2-4, "And as they ministered to the Lord, and

fasted, the Holy Spirit said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the

work whereunto I have called them. 3 Then, when they had fasted and

prayed and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. 4 So they,

being sent forth by the Holy Spirit, went down to Seleucia; and from

thence they sailed to Cyprus." (ASV); And at Acts 15:28, "For it seemed

good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden

than these necessary things:" (ASV) clearly indicating direct feedback

to and response by God (YHWH); which is further shown by Ephesians

4:30, "And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, in whom ye were sealed

unto the day of redemption" (ASV) which once more indicates that is

gives direct feedback and it reacts to the feelings of God (YHWH) from

which it emanates thus a tightly controlled force or power.

Thus we can see and have an accurate understanding of what is being

spoken of in both the Quran (Koran) and the Bible and see that it is

exactly the same event and/or occurrence.

This is further emphasized by John 14:26, "But the Comforter, which is

the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach

you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I

have said unto you." (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

Jesus (Yeshua) spoke of the holy spirit as a "helper," and he said it

would teach, guide, and speak as recorded at John 14:16-17, "And I will

pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may

abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world

cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye

know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." (AV). And

this same thought is carried at John 16:13, ""Howbeit when he, the

Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he

shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he


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speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me:

for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you." (AV). The

Greek word he used for helper (para'kletos) is in the masculine

gender. Thus, when Jesus referred to what the helper would do, he

used masculine personal pronouns as shown at John 16:7- 8,

"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go

away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but

if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will

reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment." (AV).

On the other hand, when the neuter Greek word for spirit (pneu'ma) is

used, the neuter pronoun "it" is properly employed. This fact is

conveniently over looked or hidden by most Trinitarian translators as

admitted in the "New American Bible Catholic Bible," regarding John

14:17: "The Greek word for 'Spirit' is neuter, and while we use

personal pronouns in English ('he,' 'his,' 'him'), most Greek MSS

[manuscripts] employ 'it.'" So when the Bible uses masculine personal

pronouns in connection with para'kletos at John 16:7, 8, it is

conforming to rules of grammar, not expressing a doctrine.

Hence as can readily be seen, neither the Jews nor the early Christians

viewed the holy spirit as part of a Trinity. That teaching camecenturies later. As "A Catholic Dictionary," notes: "The third Person

was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362 . . . and finally by the

Council of Constantinople of 381." Interestingly this being

approximately three and a half centuries after holy spirit filled the

disciples at Pentecost! No, the holy spirit is not a person and it is

not part of a Trinity. The holy spirit is God's active force that he

uses to accomplish his will. It is not equal to God but is always at

his disposition and subordinate to him as clearly shown by scripture

and by historical reference.

The doctrine of the Trinity was hotly debated in the 4th century and is

man made. When Luther blew the lid off the RCC that salvation is by

faith and not by works, he didn't go far enough to eradicate the

doctrine of the Trinity as well. But the mainstream churches still

staunchly support it, rather than giving far more credence to what the

scriptures teach us - than from what has come out of man made creeds.

This false doctrine is shown false by among other things the fact that

the Holy Spirit is nowhere in the Bible ever depicted as a person - but

rather as a dove, John.1:32, "And John bare record, saying, I saw the

Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him."

(AV), as a big wind and forked tongued flame at Acts 2:1-4, "And when

the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in

one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a

rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were

sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire,

and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy

Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave themutterance." (AV).

SOME OTHER MISCONCEPTIONS BY MUSLIMS THAT ARE NOT VALID:

Some Muslims have other equally invalid misconceptions. Let's deal

with a couple of these to give examples of their failure to comprehend

what the Bible is saying.

First Example:


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"(1) Who wrote those words? Jesus? God? Or some third observer that we

don't even know who he is. It is neither, God, Jesus nore the names

associated in the Bible to these gospels since they themselves are

spoken of in third person."

Reality with respect an invalid objection of Muslims:

As can be seen, many Muslims are obviously ignorant of the fact that

the Bible is NOT the product of one committee or strongman or

plagiarist as was the case with respect the Quran (Koran). It has

written by over 40 individual writers who used their own words, the

words of men to express the thoughts of God (YHWH) that they received

by inspiration. In other words, these men were not authors of what

they wrote, but simply scribes who put the thoughts of God (YHWH) they

received by inspiration into the words of men.

Not only that, all the other writers of later so called religious

guidance books borrowed from it and made changes in accord with theirstrong man or so called prophet. Take the example of Joseph Smith who

borrowed from it to write the Book of Mormon, but failed to give credit

or source to the Bible and twisted some borrowed things into bizarre

distortions. Other examples are of course the bizarre writings of David

Koresh the Prophet of the Branch Dividians of Waco, Texas; and the

Quran, and the Book of Wiccim.

Even Jesus (Yeshua) acknowledged that the words he spoke and that the

Apostles and Disciples of his who wrote the New or Greek Testament

under inspiration recorded as scribes were not his own, but those of

his Father, Almighty God (YHWH). This is clearly shown at John 14:23-

24, " Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep

my word: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and

make our abode with him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my words:

and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's who sent me."

(ASV).

Second example:

"(2) Why does the Bible lie when God had sons by the tons according to

the Bible, yet you make him his "only" son."

Reality with respect an invalid objection of Muslims:

The fact is God (YHWH) created, the angels and mankind can rightly be

called sons and daughters of God (YHWH), but Jesus (Yeshua) was the

only begotten and/or first of his creation as clearly testified to atColossians 1:15, "who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn

of all creation; " (ASV). Also, in posing such an invalid objection

they are falsely accusing God (YHWH) of having inspired men write lies

as God (YHWH) does not lie. Now this is absolutely wrong.

THEIR DYSFUNCTION:

Their comments on the virgin birth of Jesus (Yeshua) clearly recorded

in both the Bible and the Quran (Koran) Clearly shows they fail


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absolutely to comprehend the Bible any more than the eunuch at Acts

8:26-39, "But an angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise,

and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem

unto Gaza: the same is desert. 27 And he arose and went: and behold, a

man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace, queen of

the Ethiopians, who was over all her treasure, who had come to

Jerusalem to worship; 28 and he was returning and sitting in his

chariot, and was reading the prophet Isaiah. 29 And the Spirit said

unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. 30 And Philip

ran to him, and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said,

Understandest thou what thou readest? 31 And he said, How can I, except

some one shall guide me? And he besought Philip to come up and sit with

him. 32 Now the passage of the Scripture which he was reading was this,

He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; And as a lamb before his

shearer is dumb, So he openeth not his mouth: 33 In his humiliation his

judgment was taken away: His generation who shall declare? For his life

is taken from the earth. 34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I

pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some

other? 35 And Philip opened his mouth, and beginning from this

Scripture, preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on the way,

they came unto a certain water; and the eunuch saith, Behold, [here is]water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 [And Philip said, If thou

believest with all thy heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I

believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.] 38 And he commanded the

chariot to stand still: and they both went down into the water, both

Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him. 39 And when they came up

out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip; and the

eunuch saw him no more, for he went on his way rejoicing." (American

Standard Version; ASV).

However, unlike the eunuch of great authority under Candace, queen of

the Ethiopians, they fail to recognize that they do NOT COMPREHEND what

they read in the Bible.

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