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MOTIVATIONAL

INTERVIEWING IN THE

CONTEXT OF BRAIN INJURY

Toronto ABI Network Conference

Nov. 21, 2014

Tim Godden, MSW, RSW.

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Getting our ball rolling…

• Participation guidelines

• Three brief videos

http://youtu.be/lRYJzwvT0WA

http://youtu.be/Ow0lr63y4Mw?t=1m55s

http://youtu.be/Cbk980jV7Ao

• A quick exercise to help us finalize our

agenda

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My MI Knowledge

(Where am I with MI? )

scale 1 - 10

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Overview • MI-3 highlights

• Small group

exercises based

on key concepts

• Role play or

• Interactive

discussion re:

challenges & how

MI could help

• Next steps?

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One of three definitions

Technical definition:

MI is a collaborative, goal-oriented style of

communication with a particular attention to the language

of change. It is designed to strengthen personal motivation

for and commitment to a specific goal by eliciting and

exploring the person’s own reasons for change within an

atmosphere of acceptance and compassion. (Miller & Rollnick, 2013)

Slides marked with used courtesy of MINT.

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Considerations with ABI

• MI is different with people living with ABI because both cognitive impairment and living with a disability affect the individual’s awareness, motivations, decisions, and goals.

• You will not follow the person living with brain injury wherever he or she wants to go, but rather you will act as a guide to him or her in the goal of maximizing potential. Lemsky, adapted from Naar-King & Suarez, 2011.

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MI with ABI (cont’d)

• Less aware and more concrete- thinking

clients benefit from conversations about

short-term and concrete changes; longer-

term goals and values can be built in

if/when awareness improves

• Understanding the complexity of forming a

post-injury identity will help you express

accurate empathy Lemsky, 2014.

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OUR “CALLING”

What drew you to doing this work in

the first place?

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The Righting Reflex

• “The human tendency to correct things

that are perceived as wrong.”

• This tendency often leads to premature

problem solving and advice-giving,

presenting a barrier to a person being

actively involved and engendering

rebellion.

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Related ABI literature concept

“Fundamental Attribution Error” (FAE)

• “…is the tendency to attribute another’s

unpleasant behavior to an internal

disposition and to view that behavior as

under the person’s control.”

• FAE widespread in treatment settings

where “difficult” behavior is encountered. Giles and Manchester (2006).

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Reigning in our Righting Reflex

(RR) Part 1

Exercise at your tables:

• Discuss how you know the RR is present.

This can include feelings, thoughts, bodily

sensations (i.e. shoulders in ears,

blushing), etc…

• Each group assigns spokesperson to

report back a summary to large group

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Reigning in our Righting Reflex Part 2

• Help each other generate personal

prescriptions for the RR - namely,

generating as many strategies as possible

for resisting the RR.

(For instance, “When I feel my shoulders in my

ears, I will take three deep breaths and refocus on

listening.”)

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R-U-L-E

• R: Resist the Righting Reflex

• U: Understand your client’s motivations

• L: Listen to your client

• E: Empower your client

• Rollnick, Miller, & Butler, 2008

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MI Spirit…

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The Spirit of MI • Partnership

– honours the client’s experience and perspective (formerly “collaboration”)

• Acceptance – Encompasses absolute worth, accurate empathy,

affirmation and autonomy

• Compassion

Acting “benevolently to promote the client’s welfare,

giving priority to the client’s needs.” (Miller & Rollnick, 2013).

• Evocation vs. education – Resources and motivation are presumed to be within

the client

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MI Spirit with ABI Autonomy: • Therapist’s job is not to take

responsibility for change but to support and guide while seeking to elicit the client’s own ideas for change even within a constrained environment.

• Being supportive of autonomy within

limits set by the current setting by emphasizing personal choice.

Lemsky, 2014

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MI Spirit with ABI (cont’d)

Collaboration (a delicate balance):

– Appreciating that behaviour change will not happen in the absence of a partnership with the client (in the context of collaboration with decision-makers on the goals)

– Being honest (with yourself and the client)

about your role in promoting both autonomous decision-making and positive behaviour change in order to maximize the person’s potential.

Lemsky, 2014

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MI Spirit with ABI (cont’d)

Evocation:

• Drawing out intrinsic motivation – “the

engagement in behaviours for personal

interest as opposed to external

consequences.”

• Transforming external demands into

personal values or goals.

Lemsky, 2014

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Spirit to practice

• Roll with Resistance

- “Stop, drop and roll”

- Pausing to consider situation; Drop your

current approach and do something

different; express understanding of client’s

point of view and emphasize personal

choice Naar-King and Suarez (2011)

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Meeting at the bottom of the stairs (4 Foundational Processes)

Planning

Evoking

Focusing

Engaging

Miller & Rollnick, 2013.

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The processes are somewhat

linear . . .

• Engaging necessarily comes first

• Focusing (identifying a change goal) is a prerequisite for Evoking

• Planning is logically a later step

Engage => Focus => Evoke => Plan

Miller, 2012

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. . . . and yet also recursive

• Engaging skills (and re-engaging) continue

throughout MI

• Focusing is not a one-time event; refocusing is

needed, and focus may change

• Evoking can begin very early

• “Testing the water” on planning may indicate a

need for more of the above

Miller, 2012

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Getting Moving:

OARS

OPEN Questions

AFFIRM

REFLECT

SUMMARIZE

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Additional early skill

Informing and advising: • Appropriate circumstance: when client asks for

info/advice

• Differences from more directive styles:

- info/advice offered with permission

- not just data dump; accompanied by support in

reaching own conclusions about relevance

(Elicit-Provide-Elicit)

Miller & Rollnick, 2013.

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Change Talk:

What we’re ultimately fishing for

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Conversational Gold:

“Change Talk”

• Change talk is client speech that favors

movement in the direction of change

• Previously called “self-motivational

statements”

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Preparatory Change Talk Four Kinds

DARN

•DESIRE to change (want, like, wish . . )

•ABILITY to change (can, could . . )

•REASONS to change (if . . then)

•NEED to change (need, have to, got to . .)

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Mobilizing Change Talk reflects resolution of ambivalence

CAT

• COMMITMENT (intention, decision)

• ACTIVATION (ready, prepared, willing)

• TAKING STEPS

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The flip side of the coin…

• “Sustain Talk”

and “Discord”

• Formerly known

as “Resistance” (focuses on client

pathology)

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Sustain Talk

• Desire for status

quo

• Inability to change

• Reasons for

sustaining status

quo

• Need for status quo

• Commitment to

status quo

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Discord

• Behavior

• Interpersonal (It

takes two to resist)

• A signal of

relationship

deterioration

• Highly responsive to

helper style

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Sustain Talk & Discord

• Both are

predictive of non-

change

• How we respond

to sustain talk

can cause

discord!

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Another small group exercise?

• Getting a sense of what an MI

interview might feel like

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Final activity

• Role play or

• Interactive discussion about MI and how it

could help with perennial challenges in

your settings.

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Further curiosities?

Feel free to contact at Tim:

416-535-8501, Ext. 36691.

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Select MI ABI citations 1. Bell, K.R., Temkin, N.R., Esselman, P.D.C., Doctor, J.N.,

Bombardier, C.H., Fraser, R.T., Dikmen, S. (2005). The effect of a

scheduled telephone intervention on outcome after moderate to severe

traumatic brain injury: A randomized trial. Archives of Physical Medicine

and Rehabilitation, 86, 851–856.

2. Bombardier, C.H., Bell, K.R., Temkin, N.R., Fann, J.R., Hoffman, J. &

Dikmen, S. (2009). The efficacy of a scheduled telephone intervention

for ameliorating depressive symptoms during the first year after

traumatic brain injury. Journal of Head Trauma and Rehabilitation, 24,

230–238.

3. Bombardier, C.H. & Rimmele, C.T. (1999). Motivational interviewing

to prevent alcohol abuse after traumatic brain injury: A case series.

Rehabilitation Psychology, 44, 52–67.

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MI ABI Citations (cont’d)

4. Corrigan, J.D., Bogner, J., Lamb-Hart, G., Heinemann, A.W. &

Moore, D. (2005). Increasing substance abuse treatment compliance

for persons with traumatic brain injury. Psychology of Addictive

Behaviors, 19, 131–139.

5. Giles, G.M. & Manchester, D. (2006). Two approaches to behavior

disorder after traumatic brain injury. Journal of Head Trauma

Rehabilitation, 21, 168–178.

6. Hsieh, M.Y., Ponsford, J., Wong, D., Schönberger, M., McKay, A. &

Haines, K. (2012). Development of a motivational interviewing

programme as a prelude to CBT for anxiety following traumatic brain

injury. Neuropsychological Rehabilitation: An International Journal, 22,

563–584.

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Good websites

• www.motivationalinterviewing.org

• ww.subi.ca