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No . 49. Friday. May 25. 1990/Jya istha 4. 1912 (Sake)

C o Luuns

Answers to Questions 2—32

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Starred QuestionNos . 986 to 990.

onAnswers to Questions :

Starred QuestionNos . 991 to 1007 32—82

Unstarred QuestionNos . 10401 to 10633 62—427

nary Reterenoe 427—434

(Death of Shri K.S . Hegde)

Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh

Prof . N.G . Range 428—429

Shri L.K. Advani 429—430

Shri Somnath Chatterjee 430—431

Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee

Dr. Thambi Dura i 431—432

Shri Nani Bhattacharya

Shri Ibrahim Sula imanSa it 432—433

Prof . SaifuddinSoz

Kum ari Mayawati

Shri Chitta Basu

S ign m arked above the nam e of a Member ind icates that the questionwas actuallyd onthe floorof the House by that Member.

LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA

Friday, May 25, 1990/Jyaistha 4. 1912

(Sake)

(MR. SPEAKER inthe C hair]

SHRlVASANTSATHE: May Im ake a

request to theentireHouse?Aserious m atter

has arisen. Aninterviewgivenby theGovernorct Kashm irto a weekly the C urrent has

m peared today where he calls the entire

Muslim populat ion01 Kashm iras m ilitants

and says .

“Iwant to elim inate them i irst

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MR. SPEAKER:At the moment. please

allow the‘QuestionHourto continue.

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THE MINISTER OF INFORMATIONANDBROADCASTINGANDMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P.

UPENDRA) : We are go ing to discuss Ka

shm irtoday. ( Interrup tions)

SHRIVASANTSATHE: Iam not askingtorsuspens ionof QuestionHour. All Iam

requesting is that thisdiscussiononKashm irshouldcontinuefirst altertheQuestionHour.

MR. SPEAKER: Will youplease take

yourseat?

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS

[English]

Export ofWheat Bran

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986 . SHRIK.S . RAO :WilltheMinisterot C OMMERCE be pleased to state:

(a ) whetherGovernm ent havedeviseda specialprocedureforexportoi wheatbran;

(b) it so .whetherAgriculturalandProc

essed Food Products Export DevelopmentAuthority (APEDA) has beeninvestedwlhmore powers inthis regard; and

(c) theguidelines issued inthis regard?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE

MINISTRY OF COMMERC E (SHRIARANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a) to (c) . AStatement is laid onthe table oi the House.

STATEMENT

(a ) to (c) . Wheat branappears inList 2Part 8 Schedule lot the Import and Export

Policy Volum e- IIas anitem export of which

is subject to annual ceiling . Th e procedure

forreleaseof theceiling cl this item is deter

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m lned annually.

ln1989- 90. tonneswas thecell

ing torwheat branplaced at the disposaloi

Agricultural and Processed Food ProductsExport Developm ent Authority (APEDA) forwhich reasons a

“specialprocedure

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interm s

of Para 01 the previous Import and

Export Policy Volume- ll was prescribed.

Guidelines inbrief, inth is regard. are giveninenclosed Annexure.

Theceiling and theprocedure forwheat

branexport for1990- 91 areyetto benotified .

ANNEXURE

“Special

“ProcedureforExport ofWheat

Branin1989- 90 (Orders issued by CC I&Eon .90VALID UPTO 31

It has beendecided to devise a special

procedure torexport oiWheat Braninterm sof para of Section Iof said policybook:

( i) The ceiling forexport cl WheatBranwill be placed at the dis

posal cl Agricultural and Proc

essed Food Products Export

Development Authority, New

Delh i (APEDA) .

(n) The exporters are required toreg ister their contracts backedby 100% Irrevocable Letter ofCredit with APEDA.

Exporters will subm it a Bank

Guarantee equivalent to onepercent oi the FOB value as per

Irrevocable Letter of C redit toAPEDA, infavourof theGovernm ent, by bond as prescribed inSectionVIof the Export Policy1988- 89 (Vol. II)

( iv) APEDA will not allocate m ore

than 10°/o of the total ava ilable

ceiling to any individualexporter.

(v) Onfulfilm ent 01 sa id conditions .

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(VII) Entire exportwillbe m adewithinthe validity period of the export

licence fa iling wh ich the Bank

Guaranteewillbe forfeited by theGovernment.

(vi ii) No registrationof contracts will

bem ade after31st March . 1990.

norany exports will be allowed

byAPEDAevenif the quant ityolthe ceiling rem a ins unutilised.

As soon as the ceiling is exhausted.

APEDAwillreport the iacts to theMinistryoiCom merce. EP (Agri- ll) Section.

SHRl K.S . RAO : Ihave seenthe reply

givenbythehon. Minister. The inform ationis

already there inthe press report . The sam ething has beenrepeated. with a little more

addition.

11 is seenthat the ceiling fixed initially is

tonnes . Ijust wish to know trom the

hon.Ministerwhetherthere is any scientificbasis forlixing this tonnes because

the quantum oi productionof wheat inth is

country as also branis substantia l. Iwish to

knowwhetherit is based onanintentionto

earnforeignexchange and also to provide

getting betterprice torthewheat growers or

it is based onthe ava ilab ility of quantities?

theAPEDAwillissueceiling slips

to the exporters . onfirst -come

first- served bas is . Indicating i t!

particulars such as the nam e ol

theexporter.num beranddated

Orderand Irrevocable LetterofCredit, quantity allowed. FOB

value and the destinat ion.

APEDA shall send the release

advice along with the Bart

Guaranteeto theconcernedPortLicensing Authority. who onreceipt cl the same from APEDAshall ensure that anExport Li

cence with validity period upto31stMarch . 1990is issuedw

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nhin48 hours .

JYAISTHA4. 1912 (SAKA)

iHRIARANGILSHREEDHARANzTh is

g of matric tonnes if fixed with

oncurrence of the Ministry of Agricul

Departm ent of Food. Ministry of Foodass ing Industry.

Nhenwe export any commodity. our

thrust is . we should be able to earnas

rforeignexchange as possible.

i t th is case also. wewill take care of it.

SHRIK.S . RAO : Youdid not m ake it

whetherthe totalquantity ava ilable forrt is taken into considerationornot. I

wanted a clarification.

Mysecond questionis . inregard to rice

on m any an occas ion. in Andhra

esh shortage is felt by the m ills which

xoducing Oil from the rice bran. The

rt potential forrice brancake and oil is

very much . Earlier. the Associationof

Millers and also Producers of thepaddymade a representationto thisGovemasking them to allowto import ricebransomecountries like Indones ia . Bangla

and all that where it is ava ilable at a

very cheap rate and they also sa id. as

from the statem ent. that foreignex

ge that could be earned byvalue inthe

try is substant ial. and it is inthe interest

rnationalso apart from the rice m ills . If

lesire of the hon. Minister infixing up10 tonnes is for earning foreign ex

ao. the foreign exchange could be

ad ina substantialm annerby allowingsem illers to Import ricebranandexport

rd cd te . Why theGovernm ent has noti a decis ion for this allowing of the

rt of rice?

SHRIARANGIL SREEDHARAN: The

Mem ber has repeated his question.

rvailabilityofwheatbranand th ings like

3 decided by the Agriculture Ministry.

h iyplace theirdem andswith them and

reirconcurrence.

kbout rice bran. it is no poss ible form e

re anoff- hand reply. The quest ionretowheat bran. However. Iwould like to

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inform the hon. Memberthat ricebranimport

is banned inth is country.

SHRIA. CHARLES : Iknowthequestionrelates to the Ministry of Com m erce. How

ever. lwould like to pointout thatwheatbran.lfproperlyprocessed by the foodprocessingunits inIndia . canincrease ourfood produc

tion. May Iknow from the hon. Minister

whethersuitable instructionswillbe givento

the Departm ent of Food Process ing to seethe poss ibility of processing of wheat bran

instead of exporting it as a rawm aterialand

thereaftergetting it imported as a processed

food?

SHRIARANGIL SREEDHARAN: The

wheat branisused fortwo purposes :One is

forcattle food and the other is forfood. Wehave not exam ined this poss ibility inIndia.

Wewillconsiderthis proposalra ised by thehon. Mem ber.

SHRIM. BAGAREDDY: Th e quota forexport of wheat branlast yearwas fixed at

tonnes . Iwould like to knowwhether

this targetIs ach ievedornot. Ifnot.whynot?

SHRI ARANGIL SREEDHARAN: ln

1989- 90. thefollowing twopartiesweregiven

licence but no import took place:

Asha Pure Minachem a (P) Ltd.Bombay.

2 . REPL Engineering (P) Ltd. Bombay.

Th e export could not be effected in

1989- 90. Party No . 1 has not taken the

export licence and Party No. 2 has sought

extension for the validity of the export ll

cence.

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SHRIJANARDANYADAV:Ricebranis

required to runsm all industries Inthis country. Iwouid liketo knowfrom theGovernmentthrough youwhetherthere is anyproposalto

utilise theunexportedricebraninIndia inthe

sm all scale industries sector?

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mw m atting quality control .

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ow whether the governm ent will look

m e two items—firstly. foreigntrollers

ing fishes and secondly. about the

y of fishes that is being exported.

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU :The hon.

barhas m ade some very valid po ints

ave had someproblem s ofothertrollers

1g into ourwater. Bit the problem is not

y serious one. There has beenvery

percentage of it. In fact. we have

seated quitea fewtrollers inthe last few1. But we do not really have a shortage

rtrollers go ing Inourareas . Infact. as

th ow. for m arine products . the bas ic

rt is of Shrimps . Now we are getting1ps from inland farm ing also which is a

11311waterfarm ing as faras Shrimps are

arned . Now about the exports . as you

fee. If youtake the figures of overallre exports . they have not beenveryinthe last year. We have not had theof growth which wanted to have. For

are have beenholding a lot of meetings .

riggest markets today are Japanand

S . WithUSA. we have had som e prob

of quality . we are lmpress ing uponour

ners that they must m a intain qualityolat alllevels . Now inmarineproducts.tycontrolis a problem wh ich is not onlylby us . but it is faced by most of the

tries also . And If youhave a problem

two to three percent . it is tolerable. If it

up beyond five percent. then it be

is a very serious problem . Now certain

IUTOS have beentakenand s lowm anurers who arenot adhering to the qualitylule. have beenasked to do so.

i l-IRINANlBHATTACHARYA:S ir. m ayrest theMinisterto expla inorto apprise

louse whether this export target as

nent is of about Rs . crores?

would be the export component of

rlture including spices andplantations?

is the first part. Secondly. the recent

pingchanges inthe alignm entofforces

East Europeancountries and also in

othercountries have beentakeninto

tnt wh ile proving the potentiality of

t in those countries and also while

the targets .

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SHRIARUN KUMAR NEHRU: S ir. Iwould like to give the hon. Mem berfigures

forthe last three years as faras agricultural

products are concerned. Whenwe are talking of products. we are also taling of the

plantationandm arineproducts andthewhole

thing. In1988- 89. ourtota lexport was ofRs .

crores . Last year. we have exportedfor about Rs . crores . In the current

year. ourexport is crores . Icangive

youthe statistics . if youwant to have. for

each individualproducts . products also. like

spices. cashew. tobacco. cereals . oil-cakes

and thewhole lot . At the mom ent. If youtalk

interm s of percentage. out of 36 thousand

crores . the totalagriculturalproducts export

will comprise about percent of the

total export. As faras the changes inEast

Europe are concerned . Ido not think. it

fundam entally affects our exports . We donotanticipateanyproblem .WhateverBudgetwe have fixed. we have taken into accountEasternEurope. There are a few countrieswhich want to trade with us inhard curren

cies . We have sa id that if theywant to pay inhardcurrencies . we arewilling to do so from

tom orrow. So .wedonot anticipateanygreat

problem .

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SHRIARUN KUMAR NEHRU : S ir. IcannotanswerfortheMinistry ofAgriculture.

SHRINANDLALMEENAzGarlic is being

growninRajasthanandMadhya Pradesh forthe last fouryears . Th e cost of production

including thepriceof seedof garliccomes to

about Rs . perbigha . but whenfarm er

goes to the m arket to sell his produce. he

gets Rs . 190to Rs . 400-500perquintalandthus he has beenincurring a huge loss . Mr.

Speaker. S ir. Iwould like to know from the

hon. Ministerthrough youwhethertheGov

ernm ent of India is th inking interm s of ex

port ing garlic also alongwith otheragricul

tural com modit ies? If not. the Governm entmay inform the House the am ount of loss

being incurred by the farm ers and how the

Governm entproposes to m eetout th is loss?

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Basically. these problems are looked after

them . If theycangiveus some otherareas.

thenwe (Internp tions)

SHRINAND LALMEENA:Mr. Speaker.S ir. the farm ers are suffering a loss of Rs .

3000 to 4000 per bigha in selling garlic I

would like to knowwhethertheGovernmentwillexport garlic? . ( lnterrrp tions)

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Joshi. Ididnot call

you. please s it down.

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SHRI RAM KISHAN YADAV: Mr.

Speaker. S ir. India is anagriculturalcountryand all agricultural com modities are being

produced here. Iwould like to knowfrom the

Hon. Ministerof C omm erce thenam esofthe

com modities which are being im ported into

ourcountry and the m easures being taken

by the Governm ent to prevent the imports?

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU:SIr.none

of the item s which are being exported are

being imported. Imports arebeingdoneonlywhenyouhave a shortage. Th ings likePalm

Oil. If youhave a sm all shortage. thenIt is

being imported. Fourorfive years ago. we

used to import nearly three quarter of am illiontonne of pa lm oil. Today, we are not

evenimporting hundred tonnes . Ourimports

of foodgra ins are very very sm all. But that is

only whenyouhave a m arginal shortage.

Otherwise. we are exporting the surplus .

whenwe have. Iwould like to clarify that for

allagriculturalcom m odities . it is theMinistryof Agriculture wh ich indicates the surplus ;

thenwe export. So. unless surplus comes

from them . it is verydifficult to m ake predic

tions .

DR. ASIM BAI It is verygood that the

agriculturalproducts form 15 to 16 percent

of the totala ports . Her lwant to knowfrom

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the Ministeras to what is the total percent

age of export from annual sources .

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU :Sir. therearefivehundreddifferent item s .Wewillhaveto calculate the percentage of each individ

ual items . (Interruptions)

DR. ASIMBALA: Sir. Iwant theMinisterto com municate this percentage of exports

from anim alsources. to me.

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU : We will

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU : S ir. thisIs a m atterfortheTextiles Ministry.

Iwould like to know from the hon. M in

isterwhetherit is a fact thatGaladhari Broth

ers have also got a hand in spoiling the

Indianm arket.

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU : S ir lamafra id. the hon. Mem ber

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s inform ationrs to

tally incorrect. Japan has not banned theim port. In fact. Japan happens to be our

biggest m arket . We are selling m arine products worth nearly Rs . 300-400crore.

SHRIS .B.THORAT:Sir. Iwilllim itmyself

only to the Part C of the Ma inAnswer. It is

stated inthe answerthat.“the bas icstrategy

forpromoting exports of agricultural items

willbe to generate export surpluses C ot

ton and cotton yarn are item s which will

generate export surplus . Th e Governm entof Maharashtra has requested to export

cotton.TheCentralGovernm ent has stoppedthe export ofcottonand cottonyarn. WilltheGovernment re- think and allow the Mahar

ashtra Governm ent to export cotton and

cottonyarn?

SHRIBALGOPALMISHRA: Sir. as you

know. prawns and shrimps have becom e a

m ajorsource of foreignexchange. so farasIndia ls concerned. by exporting them . But

Japanhas totallybannedtheImportof prawnsand shrimps from India because the qualitywas bad during the last two years .

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corned. Ido not knowwhat they have to do

wi h shrimps export. Theremaybehundreds

of part ies exporting shrimps from India . But

we arenot aware of any complaint.

SHRIJOSS FERNANDEZ: My hon.

friend mentioned about poaching in the

ArabianSeawaters . ItIs also my lnforrnation

that foreigncountries aredefinitelypoach ingi t the Arabian Sea with Purseine boats .wh ich have spohisticted equipm ent. including refrigerationfacilities. which are stayinginourwaters fortwo months at a tim e.

lwouldlireto ask the hon. Minister. Ifwe

do not have such soph isticated equipm ent.whetherwecanask othercountries to teach

ourstaff to m anthose boats to enableus to

ensure bettershareof the trade. particularlyfortuna fish .

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU : Sir. wehave no intentionof getting soph isticated

equipm entforpoach ing from som ebodyelse .

As far as ourwaters are concerned. If the

hon. Memberhas any inform ationabout any

particulartype of sh ips wh ich are poach ing .

we can look into it. We have received no

such com pla int .We have had som e trawlerscom ing in. Som e trawlers had also been

confiscated. Beyond that. there is not much

poaching .

As faras tuna fishing is concerned. we

have takenup the deep- sea fishing .g Wewant to encourage tuna fishing but we are

not aware of refrigerated ships com ing into

ourwaters .

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SHRIDILEEPSINGHBHURIA:As hasbeenstated by the Hon. Minister. the Gov

ernm ent of India willexport goodsworth Rs .

crores toothercountries .We receivemany complaints that the goods we are

sending are not of that specificationwhich

was approached. NAFED was set up to

export agriculturalproduce to foreigncoun

tries . Iwant to know whetherthe Government will export com m odities through this

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agency by banning allthe private parties so

that no compla int m ay com e from foreign

countries and only approved goods are

exported? Onone hand private parties are

not sending the goods intim e and onthe

otherfruits andvegetablesperish intheway.

It also spoils ourreputation in the world

m erkst . Iwould like to know whether the

Govem mentwlllexportsuchproducethrough

the organisationsuch as NAFED?

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU:S ir.whenwe are dealing with fresh vegetables and

agricultural products . certa in am ount of

wastagequalitycompla intsdocom e in. Th eycom e inboth from theGovernm ent sourcesand a lso the private sources . But Ido not

thinkwecantake a decis ionthatwewillgive

thewhole th ing to theGovernm ent sourcesothat therewillnotbe anyproblem . Thefact is .we have to improve uponourpro

- shipm ent

inspections.Wehaveto impressuponpeoplethat if they got theirgoods rejected theywillnot get export orders aga in.

SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHARY: Itseem s m arine products from a substantial

part of ourexports andGovernm ent of Indiawants more exports to save oureconomy.

MayIask the hon. Ministerwhat steps he is

tak ing inspecificfields justme; inthem arine

products?Apartfrom prawns . there areother

types of fish . And they havebeenwasted as

they are not processed. Apart from this .

there are otherm arine products a lso which

canbe processed and exported. Iwould like

to knowas to whetherornot the C om merce

Ministry has any proposal just to help thetrawlerowners who are becom ing bankrupt .

Otherthanprawns . there are othertypes offish which should be processed and plans

should be m ade to export them also. Sec

ondly. Iwould like to ask about Orissa iron

ore m ines which were gett ing good foreign

m arkets. But these iron-orem ines are beingclosed downbecause now. the export has

beenbrought down. ShallIbring th is fact to

thenoticeof the C om m erceMinisterand ask

h im as to what steps are they propos ingregarding the present m ining operationof

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Orissa to at least . provideemploym ent to thelaborers there?

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU : Fisheryand iron-ore are very diverse fields . But Ido

notm indanswering them . Firstly . lwould liketo mention that as far as the total world

market form arineproducts is concem ed. it is

of theorderof50billiondollars and out of50

billiondollars . 40 billiondollars constitute

fish products . We are encourag ing to exportothertypes of fish also to foreignm arkets in

Europe andAm erica . We are export ing a lotof things likecuttle fish andothervarieties . In

Orissa .we havem adem ass ive investm ents

andwewant to m ake furtherinvestm ent for

shrim p farm s and brackish shrimpfarm . Weare speaking to the Chief Minister inth isregard. So faras ironore inOrissa is con

cerned. the hon. Mem ber is aware that we

are thinking of deepening Paradip Port also

so that additionalquantit iescanbeexported.

Iron-oreexports hasnotcom edowninOrissa .

Wewant to conserve som eof the iron-ore in

Orissa forourownproduction. But there Is

no questionof iron-oreexports com ing down

and there is also no questionof unemploym ent being generated inOrissa .

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Tourism Places InMaharashtra

'988. SHRIHARIBHAU SHANKAR

MAHALE:WilltheMinisterofTOURISM be

pleased to state:

(a ) the details of tourist places of Nationa l and International Importance inthe

State of Maharashtra ;

(b) thesteps takenforthedevelopm entof theseplaces during theSeventh FiveYearPlan; and

(c) the deta ils of proposa ls forfurtherdevelopm ent of these places undercons id

erationof Governm ent?


MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRSANDMINISTEROFSTATEINTHEMINIS

TRY OF TOURISM (SHRISATYA PAL

MALIK) : (a) to (c) . Astatementi s la idonthe

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Table of theHouse.

(a) To identifyanddeveloptcof National and International im j

prim arily the responsibility of

Governm ents . However. the C on

m ent of Tourism extends finar

tance forstrengthening oftourisn

ture based on the specific pr:

calved from the State Governn

merit. ava ilabilityof funds and int

riy.

(b) Th efollowingprojects/scisanct ioned by the C entral De;Tourism duringtheSeventhFiveY

Floodlight ing of

Maqbara . Auranga

2 . Provis ionof toilet a

waterfacilities at I

phanta and Ellora .

3. C ottages at Genpe

4. Beach Resort at V.

5. Yatri Niwas at She

6 . Wayside facilities 1

7. Trekking equiprne

harashtra

8. Watersports equip

(c) Th edetailedprojectreportestim ates forC entralfinancialas:

the year1990- 91 are yet to be i t.

the State Governm ent of Mahara

.SHRIHARIBHAISHANKAR

Mr. Speaker. Sir. Iwant to tel

Ministerthroughyouthat there is I

of anconcrete program me inth i

the place of tourist interest Ini f

Maharashtra. but there are 8 to 1

Delh i. like Ashoka Hotel and Se

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wh ich is adjacent to Ashoka Hotel. Rs . 26

crores have beenspent onthe latter's con

(Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER:Areyougiving inform a

tionorask ing questionto get inform ation?

SHRIHARIBHAUSHANKARMAHALE:Is itcorrectthat three storeys of this hotelare

vacant and big officers live there? (Internp tions) Mr. Speaker. S ir. there is no

ITOC hotel inthe m etropolitancity of Bombay . but publications of say som e

th ing else. has not pa id any atten

tion towards Maharashtra Iwant to know

whetherthe im plem entationconta ined inthe

publicity literature is upto date?

MR. SPEAKER: Please ask about

Maharashtra .

SHRIHARIBHAUSHANKARMAHALE:Bom bay is a very big city but no hotel has

beenset up by the there Iwant to

knowwhetherit is a fact that evenpublicityi terature Is not ava ilable there?

SHRISATYA PAL MALIK: l have al

ready said that allthe inform ationregardingthe development of tourism inMaharashtra

during the seventh Five YearPlan is contrined inthereplywhich has beenplaced on

the Table of the House. So faras the hotels

inMaharashtra areconcerned. Icangive the

deta il of the hotels inMaharashtra to the

Hon. Memberthrough you.

MR. SPEAKER: There is no need of

giving nam es of the hotels inMaharashtra .

please give theirtotalnum ber.

SHRISATYA PAL MALIK: Iam givingthe irtotalnum beronly. There are 7 five star

delux hotels. 10five starhotels . 10fourstar.

19 three star. 31 two starand 12 one star

hotels inMaharashtra . There are 26 other

hotels . which are to be class ified .

SHRIHARIBHAUSHANKARMAHALE:Mr. Speaker. S ir. my quest ionhas not beenreplied to Rs . 26 crores have beenwasted

onthe constructionof Sam rat hoteladjacentto the Ashoka Hotel and th is hotel is lying

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vacant. Big officers are living there. (Inter

MR. SPEAKER:Mahaleji .youtakeyourseat please. Now don

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t waste more tim e of

the House as youhave already asked two

questions .

THEMINISTEROFCOMMERCEANDTOURISM (SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU ) :Forthe purpose of tourism . we would car

talnly like to encourage as m any facilities

sum SAWA PAL MALIK: About theanxiety of the hon. Mem ber. Iwould like to

tell that his inform at ion is not correct . Th e

hotels runby are earning enough

profits but eventhen it is the policy of theGovernm ent that big and costly hotelshouldnot a constructed there but preference is

being given to the construction of‘

Yatrl

Niwas’

at different places according to the

dem and of the State Governm ent (Inter

SHRIA.R. ANTULAY:As iswellknown.the Konkancoast of Maharashtra is one of

the best tourist spots with beautiful virg in

beaches and the nationcanleg itim ately be

proudof it. It is not only the coast of Mahar

ashtra. It canwellbe term ed as thenational

coastwith potentialfornationalwealth . This

entire coast has m any beautifulcreeks . Willthe hon. Minister assure the House that

instead of leaving the matter to the State

Governm ent alone. the entire Konkancoast

will be taken up by th is Governm ent fordevelopm ent . as a national project. onthelines of South of France? Unlike the Konkancoast the coast of south of France has nocreeks . S ince the creeks canbecom e the

most beautifuland attract ive holiday resorts

and tourist resorts . along with the beaches

onthe coast wh ich are virgin, not only at

Ganpatipuia inRatangiri district but at m anyotherplaces , at least thirty to forty of them

along the 300 m ile long Konkancoast. will

the hon. Ministerassure theHouse that this

Projectwillbe takenup as a specialnational

project fordevelopm entonthe lines ofSouthof France to earnforeignexchange?

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and infrastructureaspossible.Wehavemanyschem es of this nature com ing up allover

the country and we would certa inly like toencourage the establishm ent of a beachresort inthe Konkanarea. But as youknow.

we haveconstra ints onourBudget. As faras

the C entralGovernm ent is concerned. theMinistry of Tourism canact a cata lyst. but

basicallythesuggestions have tocom e from

the State Governm ents . And if there are

good suggestions from the State Governments . we cancerta inly cons iderthem ia

vourably subject to the ava ilability of funds .

SHRIRAMNAIK: Mr. Speaker. Sir. it is

25th May today. and already two months

have passed s ince the 1990- 91 Budgetwas

presented. Inpart (C ) of the reply. the hon.

Minister has sa id that even the proposals

have not beensent by the Governm ent ofMaharashtra . Iwant to know the tim e bywh ich Governm ent of Maharashtra was tosend its proposals . what are the reasons for

not sending them and what is the am ount

allocated intheBudget toprom otetourism in

Maharashtra.

SHRISATYAPALMALIK:Mr. SpeakerS ir. the policy is that State Governm entssend theirdifferent schem es regarding as

sistencefordifferent touristplaces indicatingtheirpriority. A m eeting took place between

the representatives of the Governm ent ofMaharashtra and Central Governm ent inMay inth is regard. Som eworks have been

Identified at som e places which are to be

given priority. If hon. Mem berwould payattent ionto my reply. he will find that esti

mates have beenreceived by us. We havereceivedpriority listbutwehavenot receivedthe deta iled project estim ates . We will takeim m ediate actionafterreceiving them .

SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHARY: Mr.Speaker. S ir. hon. Minister has given the

deta ils of the tourist spots of National and

Internationalim portance . Iwould liketoknow

whether your attention has been drawn

towards (Interruptions)

MAY 25. 1990

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Member. questionis not related to Bihar.

SHRIGANGA CHARAN LODHI: Mr.Speaker. S ir. Budelthand is has h istorical

reg ioninUttar (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. member. th is

questionhas no concernwith BiharorUttarPradesh . it is a genera l question.

SRIISHWAR C HOUDHARY : S ir. thequestion is related to the tourist places of

National importance. Iwant to knowwhether

Rajg iri. Pawapuri. Parasnath . Brahm ayoni .Ram shila . Gaye. VishnuPad and the entire

Bodh Gaya areas have been developed

keeping inview their im portance from the

tourism point of view? Iwould also fike to

know whetherGovernm ent’s attention hasbeendrawntowards it andwhetherGovemm entwillgive priority to the developm ent of

BodhGays andVishnuPad inyourschem es .

If so. the deta ils thereof?

SHRISATYAPALMALIK:Mr. Speaker.S ir. altho h it has no concernwith the

question ed yet the questionra ised bythe hon. Memberis very im portant Iwant to

inform the House through youthat we have

preparedacomprehens iveschem eforBihar

and UttarPradesh part icularly forBuddh istcircle inBiharwhere there are m any im por

tant tourist places relating to Mahatam a

Budha. Governm ent of Japan13 giving loanforthis purposeandm anyworks aregoing to

start there. Inform ationinthis regard willbe

givenwhena separate questionis asked.

SHRIGANGA CHARAN LODHI: Iamalso asking a generalquestion. Hon. Minis

termust know that two m onths ago Ihad

writtento the hon. Minister inth is regard.

Bundelkhand was the centre of activities of

Ram a . Besides th is. Kalpi is the birth-

place

of the creatorof the great characters of the

Mahabharat . Laternational m ovem ent forfreedom was launched from Jhans i byMaharani Laxm ibai. Mahua is thebirth place

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of Atha - Udalwho arecons idered among themost valorous men. Iwant to know from the

hon. M inister as to what steps are beingtakenby the Departm ent of Tourism to devolop these historicalplaces? Many tourists

vis it these places but they go back disap

pointed . Th ey get no m eans of transport. I

want to know from the hon. Minister the

steps takenby the Departm ent of Tourismforthe developm ent of there places .

SHRISATYAPALMALIK:Mr. Speaker.Sir. we willcons iderpos it ively the sugges

tions foractionregarding allthe touristplaces

proposed by the StateGovernm ent of UttarPradesh . For the informat ion of the hon.

MinisterIwant to tell him the things which

havebeendecidedbyus onlyyesterday and

day before yesterday. A big Mela is beingorganised inBifur. thecentre of activities of

Nanaji . Acafeteria is beingconstructedthere.

Ourdepartm ent works intwo ways . Whatevernames of tourist places we get inBun

dekhand region from Uttar Pradesh Government . wewilltake steps Inthat regard. In

connectionwith the letters received from the

hon.Mem bers regardingdevelopm entofthe

touristplaces .we are going to take decision

inthis m onth . Ihave received his letter. we

arecons idering it (Interrup

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Mem ber. pleasetakeyour (Interrup tions)

SHRIJASWANTSINGH: Mr. Speaker.Sit

.Iwant to ask a generalquestion. Who isthememberfrom this constituency?

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU : It is myconstituency (Interruptions)

SHRIMATISUMITRA MAHAJAN: Mr.Speaker. S ir.we are talking about thedevel

Opment of the tourist places nearthe sea

shore. Irecently vis ited Konkan. There Is an

atm osphereof fear. It iscorrect thatdevelopment of that area should be done and the

people also get benefited by it but at the

placewherecottages havebeenconstructed,

som eundes irable th ings arealso happening

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which affects Its ancient culture. Iwant to

know whether Governm ent has pa id anyattentionto check it? Such th ings are taking

place at Ganapati Kutirwh ich is a religious

place. But there is a fearamong the people

of Konkanthat If such wrong culture devel

ops there. It will affect theiroriginalculture.

SHRISATYA PAL MALIK: If Iunderstand the questioncorrectly. Iwould like to

subm it that whetherIt is the questionof thebeaches of Konkanorof Goa . such th ings

have come to ournotice. There are certa in

things which are extra -ordinary forus but

they are ordinary forthem . and th is causes

difficulty forus . Therefore. we are trying to

identify such tourists abroadwhose actions

m ay not be opposite to ourculture. We are

paying attentiononyourpoint and trying to

bring elite and interested tourists . But we

have to accept it that these things are com

monforthem wh ich are uncommonforus .

DR. DAULATRAO SONUJ IAHER: I

want to know the places forwhich schem es

have been subm itted by the Maharashtra

Government to C entralGovernm ent forthedevelopm ent of tourist centres there duringthe Seventh FiveYearPlanand thenumberof schem es cleared by you Please also

state the num berof such schem es included

inthe Eighth Five YearPlan? Do theyconta inthenam es ofAnjnerisaputara andTrimbak also and if so the deta ils thereof?

SHRISATYAPALMALl lcangivethe

deta ils of the schem es sanctioned by the

Centre during the Seventh Plan. The same

have also beenplaced onthe Table of the

House. Icangive thedeta ils of the schem es

identifiedbyus uptilnow. There is a scheme

of Yatri Nives at Latoorunderwh ich tented

accom m odationwillbe m ade ava ilable. Wehave to m ake arrangem ents forprovidingaccom m odational Tourist C om plex Ocean

Nagar;waterandEquipm entVisitors centreAurangabad. Rural C raft C entre Pune;

Tourist centre Pathalam - C atham alan; and

Hurbour C ooz ing betweenElephants and

Bom bay. The Governm ent of Maharashtrahas identified these places inconsultation

with theCentralGovernm entbut estim ate of

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these schemes has not beenprepared as

yet.

KUMARIUMABHARATI: Khajuraho isan international tourist spot in C hattarpur

district. A Boeing service is operat ing from

Delhi to Varanasi via Khajuraho. Therewas

a sm alloffice of the Department of Tourismtiters . Few Days ago that officewas closeddownforunknown reasons. Do you have

any inform ationto th is effect that the said

tourist office has beenclosed downat such

anim portant place? Iwant to knowwhether

theGovernm ent has anyproposalto reopenIt

SHRISATYAPALMALIK: Idonot haveanyknowledgeabout it. Ithankyouforgivingme this inform ation. Iwill look into th is m at

ter.

SHRISOMJIBHAIDAMOR: Mr. Speaker.S ir. issue of tourism was ra ised there earlier

also . The questionofAndam anandNicobarIslands and Gujarat was also ra ised here.

Everytime theGovernm ent replies that it hasno money no funds and no budget. The

Ra ilway had no money and it had ra ised

money from the public by floating a com

pany. Iwould like to ask the hon. Minister

whether the Governm ent’s cons idering or

willcons iderto setupanycompanyonthese

lines to ra ise money forthe developm ent oftourism alloverIndia?

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU: SeveralMem bers from various States have been

asking questions about developing touristfacilities. Ijust want to give som e sm all

inform ation. S ir. if you perrnlt. Altogether.

whatwe have inIndia is thatwe have a total

of about 30m illiontourists . out ofwhich

m illiontourists arecom ing from abroad. and

aredom est ic touristswho are travellingfrom one place to another. It is ourintention

to develop the infra- structurals facilities for

allthe States. fordom estic tourism and also

forforeigntourism . Inm anycases. the infra

structure is the sam e. What Iwould like toindicate is that the budget at the disposa lof

the C entral Governm ent Is very very re

strld ed.

SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: I

asked the question in Hindi. You at

reply inHindi .

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Ministe

speak inEnglish. youcanuse earphor

Hindi version. You should not ra ise

quest ionof language.

SHRIARUNKUMARNEHRU:Younot use earphone. Ishallanswer in”II

MR. SPEAKER: Now he is speaki

Hindi.

New Form at of Accounts o f Pub ll

SectorBanks

SHRI PRAKASH KC

BRAHMBHATT:

SHRIN.J . RATHVA:

WilltheMinisterofFINANC Ebepierto state:

SHRIARUN KUMAR NEHRU: Al

StateGovernm ents havetheirownbutand the centralGovernm ent will suppethe schem es concerning tourism whicl

be sponsored by the State Governm t

But atpresent there is anallocat ionofR

crore intheentireseventh FiveYearPiaof which Rs . 16 crore are for the i

Governm ents . Therefore. all the Sche

willbepresentedbefore thecentral6 01

ment by the State Governm ents . 1

Central Governm ent will sanction 1

keeping in view the funds ava ilable.

CentralGovernment is conducting a sufortourist schem es inAndam anandNic

Islands but there are environm ental

some other problem s . S ince tourism

developed inAndam anand NicobarIslr

andwewant that it should becom e a to

spot infuture theGovernm entwilltry itsto develop it.

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Speaker. S ir. this questionIs related to theform at of bank accounts. but as he has

raised the questionofcorrupt ion. Ith ink thatthe change we want to bring Inthe form at.willalso be related to the check ing of corruption. We will take multi-pronged actionto

check corruption. Recently. There was an

article oncorruption. inwhich it was stated

that those who wanted to do bungling or

forgeryInthebanks . hadcom e to realisethat

anact of fraud was betterand more ga inful

thanthatofrobbery. Ith iri t that inviewof this

s ituat ionwe will take appropriate action.

Necessarychangeswillbecarriedout inthe

rules and inthe form at. It will be helpful in

rooting out corruption.

Telecast/Broadcast of Riches (Mantras )of Vedas onDoordarshan/Air

'990. PROF. RASA SINGHRAWAT:

Wi ll the Minister of INFORMATION ANDBROADC ASTING be pleased to state:

(a ) whether Governm ent propose totelecast andbroadcast theRiches (Mantras )from Vedas indevotionalmus icprogram m es

Inthe morning transm ission;

(b) if not. the reasons therefor;

(c) whetherany survey has beenconducted inregard to thes ignificanceof edas

forcom monpeople ; and

(d) ifnot.whetherGovernmentproposeto conduct such a survey?

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATIONANDBROADC ASTINGANDMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P.

UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b) . Atpresent. there isno such proposa l. However. som e of the All

India RadioStations includeVedicrecitation

in their programm es of devotional mus ic.

Songs of devotionalnature inSem i- C lass i

calorclassical style are also telecast inthemorning tans im iss ionof Doordarshan.

(c) No. S ir; and

(c) No. S ir.

MAY 25. 1990 OralAnswers 28

MR. SPEAKER: Please ask yourques

SHRIP. UPENDRA: As a m atter of

policy. AIRandDoordarshandonot encour

age ritualistic religious broadcasts by the

stations . However. in pursuance of their

policy. that program m es should helpstrengthenthem oralfibreof the people. AIR

and TV draw upon the experience of the

peopleandthefollowers ofallthereligions of

India. and use extracts from the sacred lit

eratures . This endeavouris reflected in'

the

mus ical and spokenwords programmes .

PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT: M .

Speaker. Sir. Iwould like to request theMinistry of lnforrnation and Broadcasthgthrough you that more than 86 per cent

populationof th is country has unfi nchhgfa ith in the Vedas . Maharishi Dayanand

Saraswati . who was the first comm entator

onVedas and the first votaryofnationalism .

had sa id that all the Vedas are the booksof

true learning. Yogiraj Sri Aurobindo haddsoaccepted th is fact. Ourculture. religion. tre

ditions. legacy. knowledge. science and

mus ic. all have originated from the Vedas.

S ince no importance has beengivento the

Riches of the Vedas onDoordarshanand

AIR. Iwould li te to knowwhetherthe Minis

try Is aware of the fact that the very word‘

Vedas’

m eans the treasure of knowledge?

Is it also not a fact that the Governm ent ofIndia has recognised the Vedas not only as

a relig ious text . but also as a source of

knowledge and onthe bas is of th is recogni

tion. theGovernm ent has setup a RashtriyaVed Vidya Pratishthan?

PROF. RASASINGHRAWAT: Inviewof this recognition. is it not the duty of the

Ministry to dissem inate the knowledge as

conta ined inthe Vedas to the people? Is it

not necessary to publicised it forthis veryreasonalso that the Vedas are the orig inof

many culturalsects of ourcountry?

OralAnswars JYAISTHA4. 1912 (SAKA) OralAnswers 30

Beyurd h h we cannot do anything.

[Trarro n]

PFD F. RASASNGHRAWAT:WiIItheDoordarshan and AR riot prepare their

progrunm ee wi h a view to spreading the

cheeta h knowleQ e of Vedicaesthetics.

m ic. mathem d ice. social life. architecture

rndscience as contained inthe Vedas?

SHRIP. UPENDRA: Ihave alreadytrimmed tha we cannot broadcast these

things. But Inmury programmes. insem i

clsssical and classical program m es. bhaktirsngeet h being given. Beyond th is. we

wh at do anyth ing .

Spearer. Sir. Inhis replyto this question. thelion. Minister has expressed his desire in

lsvourof such broadcasts and it is a m atter

oi'

py that the AIR is going to broadcast

program mes related to Vedas . It has also

beenstated Inthe reply that program mes of

classicalmus icare also broadcast onDoordarshan. Songs ofdevotionalnature inclas

sicalstyle are also telecast inthe transm is

sions of Doordarshanbut the treasure of

knowledge of educative value enshrined in

theVedas areuniversallyaccepted and theydonot go against anybody

’

s interest.

'Om Vishwanidev saviturduritani para

Yadbhadram tannasuva .

’

O God. the Alm ighty . m ake everyone

happy and prosperous by removing their

unhappiness . It does not go against anybody. Nobody will object to it. Th enwhat ishe problem in telecast ing such things of

knowledge and science inthe form of m ax

ins onDoordarshan. Th is will help to dis

t i ninateandpopularism theknowledge and

teach ings of the Vedas. So. lwould llte b

know from the hon. Minister through you

whed‘rerthesesm allshicksa from theVedas

willbe telecast onDoordarshan?

SHRIP. UPENDRA: Some stations ofAl India Radio are giving sometimes slokas

from theVedas butnot as a regularfeatures

only to dailyprogrammes . But occasionalythese are givenwhenever the occasions

SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE:Naturally Ihaveno objectionof Sutras fromVedas are also popularised but it should be

such Sutraswh ich agree with ourC onstitu

tionand Direct ivePrinc’

p les . Otherreligions

are also there. They have also elm i erap

peals . WhentheGovernmentwould takeupthe religious things . would they consider

both these aspects and inconsiderationof

that alone will they fix up anything?

SHRIP. UPENDRA: As Im entioned.

som e stat ions like Mathura . PondicherryDharwar. etc. occas ionallybroadcast slokas

from Vedas . Sim ilarly Hyderabad and Sri

nagarKendras ofAllIndia Radio give recita

tionfrom the QuranSharief. JullundurStationAll India Radio and Doordarshanalso

broadcast and telecast excerpts from the

Gurbani . And wheneverChristianfestivalscom e. the religious chorus are also telecast

and broadcast .

SHRI KAPIL DEV SHASTRI: Mr.

Speaker. S ir. Vedas are the most ancient

treasure of knowledge of the world. It is

known to the entire world that before the

Vedas. therewasnobookIntheworld. S ince

Vedas are the most ancient treasure of

knowledge of the world and all otherrelig

ions have takenteach ings from them . lwould

like to knowwhat hes itationIs there onthe

part of Doordarshanand AIR intelecasting

these shlokas?

MAY 25. 1990

SHRIP. UPENDRA:Th ere isno hes ita

tionon our part. These are telecast and

broadcast occas ionally depending on the

occas ion.

SHRIRAJVIR SINGH: Mr. Speaker.Sir. Iwould like to ask the hon. Minister

through you whether he wants 80 crore

peopleofthis country to shunthe Vedicpath

of knowledgewh ich finds a universalrecog

nitionandwh ich provides lnumerable topics

of research to the scholars work ing onthe

Vedas InGerm any and othercountries? To

enrich the knowledge of the m asses of this

country. the shicksaofVedas and the trans

lated versionthereof should be transm itted

ondoordarshan and AIR. Iwould like to

know as to what steps are proposed to be

takenby the Government inthis regard?

SHRIP; UPENDRA: i have already

answered that question. There is no hesita

tionorreluctance. But as a policywe arenot

doing It everyday.

SHRIA.K. ROY: InVedas two types of

slokas are there—one glorifying som eGod.

theotherglorifying thenature. Anelementof

atheism is also there. Iwould like to know

from the hon. Ministerwh ile broadcasting

different religions and allthat. willbe broad

cast also the elements ofatheism which are

there.

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SHRIP. UPENDRA: It is a suggestion

foraction. We willconsiderit .

WRITTENANSWERS TO QUESTIONS

Report of National C om m ittee on

Tourism

SHRIMITRA SENYADAV:Will

the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to

(a) whetherGovernment have exmn

ined the recomm endations contained inthe

Reportsubm ittedhy theNationalC omm ittee

onTourism som e tim e back ;

(b) if so. the Governm ent's read ionto

various recomm endations m ade by the said

C omm ittee recom m endation-wise; and

(c) towhatextent therecom mendat ions

would be useful forpromot ionof domestic

and international tourism ?


MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS

ANDMINISTEROF STATE INTHEMINIS

TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL

MALIK) : (a ) and (b) . The m a inrecom mends

tions of theNat ional C om m ittee onTourism

and the reactionof the Governm ent inre

epacts of them are as givenbelow:

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(c) Therecomm endations areusefulfor

developm ent of turism infrastructure and

thereby increas ing the flow of turista both

domestic and international.

Non-Res ident Indians

SHRIDHARMESH PRASAD

VARMA:

SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA

WilltheMinisterofFINANC Eba pleased10 state:

(a ) the country-wise number of Non

Ras ident Indians around theworld and the

amount so far invested by them in India

includ ing inForeignC urrencyNon-Res ident

(FC NR) deposits inbanks and inotherar

easzand

(b) thepolicyofGovernment to tapNon

Res ident Indianresources inthecurrent five

yearplan?

THE MINISTEROF FINANC E (PROF .

MADHU DANDAVATE) : (a ) No specific

census ofNRIs is ava ilable. The total invest

m ents m ade by Non-Res ident Indians as on

inclus ive of bank depos its

am ounted to nearly Rs . crores .

cumulatively .

(b) It is the policy of Governm ent to

provide all necessary facilities and incan

tives to theNon-Res identIndians to invest in

India .

Proposa lof lndo - lnternatlona l Bank

L im ited

'993. SHRIPRAKASH KOKO BRA

HAMBHAT'

I'

: Will the Ministerof FINANC E

be pleased to state :

(a ) whetherthe First lndo - international

MAY 25 . 1990

Bank li m ited (FIIB) will bring InequityNRIdepos its ;

(b) If so . the deta ils thereof and

amount which willbe non-repairable ;

(c) WhetherGovernm ent have car

erad the proposalm ade by the Preside

Indo -NRIChamberof C omm erce and

ture inth is regard;

(d) If so . the deta ils of the propose

forward by the FIIB ;

(e) WhetherGovernm ent have co i

ered the proposal; and

(f) If so . the tim e bywh ich finaldoc

is likely to be taken?

THE MINISTER OF FINANC E (SMADHU DANDAVATE) : (a ) to (f) . The

Indo- InternationalBank Ltd. . Nassau. B

m as . a bank set up by Indiannon- res id

inNovem ber, 1988 had approached

serve Bank of India inJuly. 1989 to a

them toopena branch inBom bay to m ot

NRIinvestm ents/depos its . The Bank’

s

plicationhas not beencons idered favc

bly by Reserve Bank of India . The Bank

s ince requested Reserve Bank of Ind

recons ider its decis ion.

Sett ing up of Tourist C om plex in

Kanyakum ari

‘

994. SHRIN. DENNIS :Willthe M

terof TOURISM be pleased to state :

(a ) whethert here is any proposa lUI

cons iderationofUnionGovernm ent for

ting up of a tourist com plex inKanyaku

D istrict of Tam ilNaduwith the collabore

of Japan:

(b) if so . the details thereof: and

(c) the tim e bywh ich this project is Ii

to be approved?



STRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRSIMINISTEROF STATE INTHEMINIS

Q F TOURISM (SHRISATYA PAL

”0: (a ) No . S ir.

(b ) and (c) . Do not arise.

rws Item“Smuggling onthe Rise

”

‘

995 . SHRIBANWARILAL PUROHIT:

the Ministerof FINANC Ebe pleased to

(a ) whetheraccording to various anti

gg ling organisations operat ing in the

My. it has beenrevealed that smuggling

h iss have increasedconsiderably since

past one decade as reported in the

Iustan Tim es dated 28 and 29 April.

1:

(b) if so . whatharthereportprepared by

ntelligenceWing inSeptem ber, 1989 in

horationwith anti - smuggling organisa

has since beenexam ined; and

(c) if so . the deta ils of the report and the

tersteps contem plated by Government

aka anti - smuggling organisat ions more

:tive?

THEMINISTEROF FINANC E (PROF .

IHUDANDAVATE) : (a ) It isnotposs ible

t im atewhethersmuggling activities have

easedduring thepastdecadeand if so to

t extent . The value of seizures effected

re C ustom s authorities overthe past few

s as g iveninthe table show anincreas

rend . Th is neednot necessarily indicaterurt in smuggling but could be due to

i s if ied anti - smuggling efforts .

TAB LE

Va lue of seizures

(Rs . incrores)

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Value of seizures

251 .47

4

(Provis ional)

(b) No such report has beenprepared

byanyof the intelligenceagenciesunderthis

Ministry .

lc) Does not arise .

Writ ing off Loans of Farm ers , Art isans

and Weavers

‘

996 . SHRISANATKUMARMANDAL :

Wi ll the Ministerof FINANC E be pleased to

state:

(a ) whetherGovernm ent have form u

lated the deta iled schem e of debt relief to

farm ers . artisans andweaverswho had taken

loans upto Hs . i from variousbanks . in

consultationwith the RBIand theNABARD ;

(b) if so . the details thereof; and

(c) if not. the reasons fordelay and the

tim e by wh ich the schem a is likely to be

formulated?


MADHU DANDAVATE) : (a ) to (c) . The

Governm ent of India had announced its

decis ionforproviding debt relief forfarm ers .

artisans and weavers who had takenloans

upto Rs . from public sectorbanks .

reg ionalruralbanks and cOOperative banks .

The Governm ent has form ulated the Agri

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culturalandRuralDebtReliefScheme. 1990.

Th esalient features of theSchem e aregiven

inthe attached statem ent.

( 1 )

(2 )

(3)

I4)

STATEMENT

Salient features ofAgriculturaland

Rural Debt Relief Scheme. 1990

of the C entralGovernm ent

Relief willcoverallshort - tennand

term ovardues advanced bypublic

sectorbanks . reg ionalruralbanks .

coo peratives including and devel

opm ent banks . as on2ndOctober.

1989.

Relief will be ava ilable to the bor

rowers whose principal amount

from one ormore banks . reg iona l

rural banks orcooperatives does

not exceed Rs .

Th e wa iver of the principal and

interest am ounts will be allowed

upto a lim it of Rs .

The benefit of debt relief will be

ava ilable to the following catego

ries of borrowers ;

(a ) Non-wilful defaulterfarmerwho

is determ ined by the Annewari

System applied on the village

bas is .

(b) Non-wilful defaulter, artisans!

wheaverswhocomm itteddefault

inrepaym ent of h is loandue to

adverse circum stances .

(c) Defaulterfarm ers . artisans and

weaverswith‘

C hronicovardues'.

i. a . overduas which have re

m a ined unpa id formore than3

years from the cut off data i s .

MAY 25 . 1990

(7)

(d) The surviving fam ily of the

ceased borroweronwhom

loanliability has devolved .

(e) Th e farmerwho had filed in

vency petitions orwho had

ready been declared insoli

and fulfills the conditions i t

tioned above.

The m anagerof the lead baneach of the blockwillact as a ci

dinator for the im plem entatior

the scheme and will conv

m eetings of the m anagers of c

carri ed branches of public asbanks . reg ional rural banks . c

tralcooperative banks . landde

opment banks and block deve

mentofficers/tehsildartodetern

the total principa l amount of l

takenbyeachborrowerandtovi

other conditions relevant to

schem e.

Borrowers willbe advised Inwri

bytheManagerof thebranch at

the extent of relief provided .1

closure of the account if it is I

settled and the reply the ba la

amount whereverapplicable .

Wom enEm ployees InMEL, C handra

‘

997. SHRIS .E. THORAT: Will

Ministerof STEEL ANDMINES be pleato state:

(a ) whetherGovernment are swan

Identificat ion of borrowers

determ inationof eligible loans

be done by the Managerof a

branch of the public sectorban

regional rural bank . He will i

have the authority to sanction

relief to the borrowerso ldenti

anddetannined.undertheSche

WnttenAnswers

Sir. Apart from various studies by different

Government and industrialorganisations. a

comm ittee of 5 Am bassadors have under

takendeta iled studies to assess the impact

of integrat ionof EuropeanMarket by 1992

onIndim trade.

(c) Various steps are being taken to

meet the requirement of the emerging s ituation in Europe wh ich . of the proposed

measures ; follow-up of the new standards

being evolved InEurope; interactionwith

forums of industries and trade; efforts to

promotewarehous ings etc. inEurope .

C entralAss istance to Orissa

1000. SHRISAMARENDRAKUNDU :Will the Ministerof FINANCEbe pleased to

(a) whether UnionGovernm ent have

givenorpropose to give any financialass is

tance toOrissa to m eet theBudgetarydeficit

of the State. particularly in view of h igh

densityofpopulationbelowpoverty line ; and

(b) if so . the details thereof?

THEMINISTEROF FINANCE (PROF.

MADHU DANDAVATE) : (a ) and (b) . Plan

ningComm iss ionhavesuggested addit ional

accommodation by way of special loans .

advanceplanass istanceetc to theGovern

mentofOrissa to bridge thegap inresources

forfullyfunding theAnnualPlanfor1990- 91

The above proposal is undercons ideration.

MAY 25 . 1990 WrittenAnswers

Death C laim s Pendh g with LIC

‘

1001 . SHRIL K. ADVANI:

SHRIKALPNATHSONKAR:

WilltheMinisterof FINANCEbepleased

to state:

(a ) thenum berof death cla im s pendingwith the Life Insurance C orporation. State

wise ;

(b) thenumberof such cla im swh ich are

five years orm ore old; and

(c) the steps Governm ent propose to

take to pay cla im s to such widows who do

not have grownup children. at their door

steps so that they do not have to runfrom

pillarto post intheirdepressed state?


MADHU DANDAVATE) : (a ) and (b) . The

num berof death cla im s outstandingwith the

Life lnsuraca C orporat ionof India as on31stMarch , 1989 were 14456 out of wh ich 826

deathcla im swereoutstanding formore than

2 years which were furtherreduced as on

28th February. 1990 to 412 . LIC does not

keepseparatestatistics ofdeathclaim swh ich

are outstanding for 5 years or m ore . The

Corporationalso does not m a inta inthe statist ics of death cla im s State-wise . However.

the Lona -wise statistics covering all the

States/Union Territories are m a inta ined

separately wh ich . as on are a s

under:

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(c) Inthenorm alcourse. alldeathcla im s

get disposed of with ina period of 2 years .

except difficult cases nam elywhere titles or

otherlegaldisputes are involved. The C or

porationendeavours to settle as m any as

death cla im s as poss ible w'

nhin75 days of

inform ationof death . But inreaped of early

death cla im swhere invest igationandcalling

of more requirem ents become necessary.efforts are m ade to settle cla im s withina

period of one yearfrom the date of inform a

tionof death . Inorder to settle the cla im s

axped'niously. all possible help is givenby

the Agents . Developm ent Officers and offl

cia ls of theServicing Branch to thecla im ants

ingetting the requirem ents com pleted. Thus

theLIC has apm persystem to ensureprompt

settlem ent of claim s.

ADB's Debt Report

‘1002 . SHRI M .V . C HAN

DRASHEKARAMURTHY:Will theMinisterof FINANC Eba pleased to state:

(a ) whetherGovernm ent have receivedfrom the AsianDevelopment Bank deta iled

report regarding India's foreigndebt ;

(b) whether suggestions have been

received from the As ianDevelopm ent Bank

forrefum ishing certaindata; and

(c) ifso . the reasons thereofandwhether

the requireddata havebeenfurnished to the

ADB?


MADHU DANDAVATE) : (a ) No . Sit .

(b) and Does not arise.

Bauxite

C hina clay

MAY 25. 1990 WrittenAnswers

Explorationofunerals h kh harashtra

terof STEEL AND MINES be pleased tostate :

(a ) whether the Geological Survey of

India has conducted any survey forfind ingm ineraldepos its inMaharashtra ;

(b) if so . the estim ated quant ity of vari

ous m ineraldepos its inMaharashtra sepa

rately and the quantity of m inerals exca

vated everyyearindicating the value thereof

during the last three years till 31 March .

1990:

(c) what is the program me of m ineral

excavationduring 1990- 91 in C entral and

State/private sectorseparately;

(d) whether ass istance from intem a

tional agencies have been sought/availed

fordevelopm ent of m ineral inMaharashtra ;

and

(a ) if so . the details with progress

thereof?

(b) Th e reserves estim ated are as given

below:

(Inm illiontonnes)

THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES

AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTIC E

(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) The Geolog ica l Survey of Ind ia . the Directorate of

Geology and Mining . Govt . of Maharashtraand other C entral/State Agencies have

conclud ed surveys for finding m ineral de

posits inMaharashtra .

Copperore

IronOre (Haem at ite)

Manganese ore

Ilm enite (sand)

Kyanite 8: S illim anite

Limestone

Tungstenore

JYAISTHA 4. 1912 (SAKA) WrittenAnswers 50

181 .550

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(d) Anagreement singed on12th May.1988 betweenMineralExplorat ionCorpora

tionLtd. and BureauDeRecherchesGeolo

giquews Et°

Minieres (BRGM) of France for

im plementing a jo int project forexploration

and developm ent of Tinand Tungstende

posits inIndia through transferof Technol

ogy inMineralExplorationcovers theKhobna

tungstendepos it inNagpurdistrict . Mahar

asthra .

(e) Work to evaluate the oxidised zone

of the tungstenore body . exp;loratorydrilling

and deep pitting as recom m ended by the

Joint Task Force is under implementation.

Representetlone from Kerala AgeInst

New Im port Export Po licy

'roo4. PROF. P.J . KURIEN: Will the

Ministerof C OMMERC Ebepleased to state :

(a ) whetherrepresentations have been

received from Kerala aga inst the new Im

port-Export Policy;

(b) if so . the ma inpo ints intherepresen

tat ions ; and

(c) the reactionofGovernment thereto?


MINISTRY OF C OMMERC E (SHRIAR

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) Yes . S ir.

(b) The m a inpo ints inthe representa

tionwere that the new Import and Export

Policy inrespect of agricultural and planta

tion products—coconut o il. copra . natural

rubber. co iryearn. cocoa and spices would

have adverse effed s onthe farmers of Ker

a la ;

(c) There has beenno change inIm port

and Export po licy forthe above m entioned

item s exceptfornutm eg andm ace . Import of

these two item s wh ich was earlier allowed

underOpenGeneralLicence by a llpersons

MAY 25 . 1990

for stock and sale has been tightened bybeing brought inh the licensablecategory in

the new Import and Export Policy .

C ourt Osees of H.Z . L. Udepur

'1005 . SHRIKAILASHMEGHWAL :Will

the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be

pleased to state:

(a ) the num ber of cases other than

pertaining to labourlaws by and aga inst the

Hindustan Zinc Lim ited. Udaipur and its

various units pending In Lower. High and

Supreme Courts alongt names of the

parties and issues involved;

(b) s incewhenthesecases arependingand the present positionof the cases ; and

(c) the steps takento settle thedisputes

am icably betweenthe part ies concerned?



(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) and (b) . A

statem ent is la idontheTable of theHouse .

[Placed inLibrary. PleaseNo . See No . LT

(c) Request forout of court settlem ents

areconsideredkeeping theCom pany’

s inter

est lnview.

Stagnat ionInPrornotlonInMinistries !

Departm ents

'1006 . SHRIP.R. KUMARAMANGA

LAM: Will the Minister of FINANC E be

pleased to state:

(a ) whetherGovernm ent are aware

there is acute stagnat ion inpromotions in

Group‘

C’

and‘D’

posts inMinistries/Depart

m ents of UnionGovernm ent;

(b) if so . whetherthere is any proposa l

to give autom aticprom otioninGroup‘

C'and

Wni‘tenAnswers

‘

D’

posts aftera specific period; and

(c) if so . the deta ils thereof andwhenit

is likely to be introduced?

THE MINISTEROF FINANC E (PROF .

MADHUDANDAVATE) : (a )Governm ent are

aware that there are som e cadres inGroup‘

C’

and‘

D'posts without promotional ave

nues orwith inadequate promotional pros

pacts .

(b ) and (c) . InC entralGovernm ent . posts

at various levels arecreatedonneed -based

cons iderations . Incaseposts at promotional

levels are not functiona lly justified/required.

the sam e m ay not be created s im ply to

provide m ore promotional avenues and for

remov ing stagnation. However. based on

the dem and of the Staff S ide of Nationa l

Counci l (J C M) . the Governm ent is exam ining whether at least one prom otion in the

service career of the Group‘

C'and

‘

D'

Governm ent servants canbe provided.

Translati'on!

Sa le by Maganese ore lndla Ltd .

'1 007 . PROF . MAHADEO

SHIWANKAR: Will the Minister of STEEL

AND MINES be pleased to state:

(a ) whether the Manganese Ore India

Ltd . so ld last yearm anganese ore to a firm

m uch belowthepreva iling internationalrate;

(b ) if so . the facts thereof ;

(c) whether any m em orandum was

rece ived from the m anganeseOre India Ltd.

Staff Welfare Associationalleging m alprac

tree inthe deal;

(d ) if so . whetherthe allegations have

been enquired into ; and

(e) if so . the outcom e thereof and the


corrective steps taken?

m eMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINESAND THE MINISTER OF LAw

‘

A‘

Nif'

JUSrrcs (SHRIDINESH GOSWAMI) : (a ) No .

S ir.

(b ) Does not arise.

(c) Yes . S ir.

(d) and (e) . Theallegationswere looked

Into andwere found to benot substantiated.

[English]

J apanese Aid to lndla

10401 . SHRIPRAKASHV. PATIL :Will

theMinisterof FINANC Ebe pleased to state :

(3 ) whetherthe Japanese Prim e Minis

terwho vis ited India inAprilhas decided for

a m arginal increase inbilateral a id to India ;

(b) if so , to what extent it has been

increased ; and

(c) the otherdecis ions takenon eco

nom ic a id to India?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE

MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS

TRI) : (a ) to (c) . During h is recent vis it the

Japanese Prim e Ministerhad indicated that

Governm ent ofJapanis likely to extend Yen

Loans inthe reg ionof about Yen100 billion

inthecurrent financialyear. Th is represents

anincrease of Yen billionoverthe last

year's com m ittm ent of Yen b illionYen.

C losed Rolling Mllls InB ihar

10402 . SHRIA.K. ROY:Willthe Minis

terof STEEL AND MINES be pleased to

state:

(a ) the nam es of the rolling m ills ly ing

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closed inDhanbad district of Bihar?

of capital blodted and

thepersons unemployed as a result thereof;

(c) the reasons forclosure; and

(d) thesteps taken/proposed to be taken

to reopenthese m ills?


AND THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUS

TIC E (SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) to (d) .

The inform at ionis beingcollectedandwillbe

la id onthe Table of the House.

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Tem porary Em ployees InRanch i

Doordars hanKendra

10403. SHRIR.L.P. VERMA: Will theMinisterof INFORMATION AND BROAD

C ASTING be pleased to state:

(a ) whether som e tem porary employees in Doordarshan Kendra. Ranch i are

work ing there s ince its incept ionbut theyare

not being m ade perm anent;

(b) whether these employees are not

being pa id eventhe m inim um wages ;

(c) whether Government propose to

m ake them perm anent ; and

(d) if so .whenandthe steps being taken

to pay the m inimum wages?


UPENDRA) : (a ) Yes . S ir. Som e em ployees

havebeenengaged. oncasualbas is . against

those posts which havenot beenfilledupon

regularbas is .

(b) No , S ir.

MAY 25 . 1990 WrittenAnswers 64

(c) No. S ir. The rules do not perm it the

appo intm ent of casual employees. on a

regularbas is . unless theycom peteforregu

larappointm ent .

(d) Does not arise.

Poppy C ult ivat ionInReleethen

10404 . SHRI GULAB C HAND

KATARIA:Willthe Ministerof FINANC E be

pleased to state :

(a )whetherGovernmentproposeto give‘

Pattas’

to the farmers engaged inpoppycultivationinRa jasthan;

(b) i l so. whenand if not. the reasons

therefor

(c) whetherth is cultivat ionis a source of

improvement Inthe econom ic conditionof

farmers andforeignexchange Is also earned

thereby ;

(d) If so . whetherGovem mefit proposeto increase its production;

(9 ) whetherGovernment contemplate

to setupa factory based onpoppy InRajast

ham and

(I) if so . when?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a ) to (d) . License forpoppy cultivation

are issued inOctober/Novem berto thefarm

ers who areeligible forsuch licence inaccor

dancewith theconditions forgrantof licence

decided by the Government every year.Opium poppy cult ivation ina source of im

provementoftheeconom icconditionoffarm

ers and foreignexchange ls also earned bytheGovernmentof lndla from exportofopium

to foreigncountries . Productionof opium in

India is ma inlyexportoriented. Indianopium

has beenfacing stiffcom pet itionInthe inter


ai m arket from alternative raw m ate

am ely. concentrate of poppy straw

has . inter alia; resulted indecline in

exports and accumulat ionof stocks .

I, Governm ent do not propose to ln

rthe productionof opium .

I) and (f) . There is no such proposalat

11.

ng of J obs by SBIfrom C a lcutta to

Bom bay

3405 . SHRIBASUDEB AC HARIA:

a Ministerof FINANCE be pleased to

r) whetherthe State Bank of India has

Ivarious im portant jobs . e.g . inter

t reconciliationwork. travellercheques.

om C a lcutta to Bom bay which has

ad in the curta ilment of employment

iality as wellas the loss of econom ic

anceofWest Bengal; and

I) ifso. theactionproposed to be taken

vem m ent inth is regard?

HE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE

TRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS

Za ) and (b) . State Bank of India (SBI)

ported that it had transferred certa in

om C alcutta long back onbus iness

anagementcons iderations inthe light‘

actors anddevelopments obta ining at

aterial tim e. SBIhas furtherreported

abank has no proposalto transferanysect ion/item of work from Calcutta .

:cording to SBIthe shifting/transferof

rsections/Items ofwork from C alcutta

at resulted in any reduct ion in the

em ployment potentiality in WestI:

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Re-constitut ionof Boards of Directors

of Natlona llsed Banks

10406 . SHRIA. VIJAYARAGHAVAN:

Will the Ministerof FINANC Ebe pleased to

(a ) whetherGovernm ent have anyplan

to re-constitute the Boards ofD irectors of thenationalised banks ; and

(b) if so . the tim e bywhich theseBoards

are lik ely to be reconstituted?

Incent ive to AwardWinning ExportFirm s

10407. SHRIPARASRAMBHARDWAJ :WilltheMinisterof COMMERC Ebepleasedto state:

(a ) whetherany suggestionhas been

m ade by the Associated Cham berof Corn

merce and Industry of Ind ia to initiate a

shcem etograntspecialfacilities to theaward

winning export firm s so as to provide them

sufficient encouragem ent to increase for

s ignexchange earnings; and

(b ) ifso.Governm ent’

s reactionthereto?


MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRIARANGIL SREEDHARANY. \a\


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHAS

TRI) : (a ) and (b ) . The Board of D irectors of

the nat ionalised banks is a continuing entity

and vacancies of directors that arise are

filled up from tim e to tim e. At present there

are certa invacancies cl non-official direc

tors onthe Boards of all the 20nationalised

banks . It is the endeavourof the Govem

m ent to fillup these vacancies as early as

poss ible after mak ing a review of earlier

appointm ents .

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Percentage of tim e takenby advertlse

m ent onTN

10408. DR. VENKATESHKABDE:IMIIthe Ministerof INFORMATIONANDBROA


(a ) the percentage of tim e taken by

advertisem ents onT.V. :

(b) the revenue earned through such

advertisemets during three years ;

(c)whetherGovernm entproposeto ban

advertisem ets onT.V/Radio ; and

(d) the deta ils of any schem e to evalu

ate the effect of advertisem ent onm inds of

ch ildrenand adolescents?

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION

ANDBROADC ASTINGANDMINISTEROF

PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P.

UPENDRA) : (a ) The durat ionof tim e taken

for telecast of advertisem ents on Door

darshan. at present . is around 3percent of

the total transm issiontim e.

(b) The gross com m ercial revenue of

Doordarshanforthe last threefinancia lyears

was Rs . crores .

(c) No . S ir.

MAY 25 . 1990

(d)Astudyundertakena fewyear

onSociolog icaleffects ofTVadvertise

reveals that. byand large; these are int

ing . enterta ining and inform ative hav

negat ive influence onsociety.

Export of Vegetables from Kerr

10409. SHRIMULLAPPALLY F

C HANDRAN: Will the Minister of

MERC E be pleased to state :

(a ) the totalquantity and value of

tables exported from Kerala to thr

C ountries during 1987- 1988 and 198

(b) the incentives/facilities being9to export ers of Kerala forincreased e

to Gulf;

(c) whether his Ministry had rer

any representat ionaga inst the reduc

a ircargo space allottedbyAirIndia to I

Exporters from Trivandrum . C och ir

C alicut . if so . the deta ils thereof; and

(d ) the actiontakenby Governn

this regard?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN

MINISTRY OF C OMMERC E (SHRANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) The totaltity and va lue of vegetables exporterKerala to the gulf countries during t i

three years are indicated below:

(Estim ated)

1987- 88

1988- 89

1989- 90

Source: Kera la State Industria lEnterprises Ltd Trivandrum .

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(b ) Incentives such as C ash C ompen

sa tory Support. Import replenishm ent etc.

forincreas ing export of fresh vegetables are

granted to allexporters including exporters

of Kerala .

(c) and The Agricultural Product

andProcessed FoodExportersAssociation.Trivandrum had represented about the re

dud ionof cargo space allocated to Trivan

drum byAirIndia . The m atterwas takenup

wi thMinistry of C ivil Aviationwho have ln

formedthat the cut has s ince beenrestored

byAirIndia effect ive 15th April. 1990.

Relaxation InImm igrat ionForm a lltles

forC onvenience of ForeignTourists

10410. SHRIM.M. PALAM RAJU :WilltheMinister of TOURISM be pleased to

(a) thedeta ils ofm ajorchanges interm sofrelaxation in imm igrationform alit ies im

demented for the convenience of foreign

tourists ; and

(b) the further steps proposed to beIakenby Governm ent to reduce form alities

forforeigntravellers to the country?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEMINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRSANDMINISTEROFSTATEINTHEMINIS


MALIK) : (a ) There seem s to beno scope forfurtherrelaxations inim m igrationform alities

forthe convenience of foreigners as gener

ally it takes not m ore than2 m inutes to clearthe passengers at the im m igrationcounter.

Foreigntourist groups com ing without visa

canbe granted land ing perm it facilities upto

a m ax imum period of 30days by the im m i

grat ionOfficers provided the tour is spon

sored by recognised IndiantravelAgencies .

(b ) Procedure to obta in‘

exit perm iss ion’

forthe foreigners registeredwith the foreign

ers Reg ionalOfficers at the fourMetropoli

tancities i .e. Delh i. Bom bay . C alcutta and

Madras has beensimplified . now foreigners

reg istered .with FRRO’

s at Delh i. Bom bay.C alcutta and Madras obta inexit perm ission

from the Airport at the tim e of departure.

Ass istance to Kerala forTourism

10411 . SHRIT. BASHEER: Will the

MinisterofTOURISM be pleased to state:

(a ) the ass istance provided for the

developm ent of tourism in Kerala during

1989- 90;

'

(b ) the totalamount spent inthat sector

and the ach ievem ent m adeduring that year;

(c) the allocationm ade forthe developm ent of tourism during 1990

- 91 ;

(d) whetherthe Governm ent of Kerala

has subm itted any schem es orprojects in

this regard; and

(e) if so . the details thereof?

(c) to Financialass istance to State

Governm ents is extended ontheirspecific

proposals . The StateGovernm ent of Kerala

has yet to form ulate and subm it deta iled

project reports alongwithestim ates forcentral

financia l assistance forthe year1990- 91 .





MALIK) : (a ) and C entral Depart

m ent of Tourism sanctioned projects!

schem es amounting to Rs . Iakha dur

ing 1989- 90. whereas the tota l ass istance

released during theyearforthenewandon

go ing projects was Rs . lakhs .

Flood Relief Ass istance to Bihar

10412 . SHRIDEVENDRA PRASAD

YADAV: Wi ll the Ministerof FINANC E be

pleased to state:

(a) the steps being taken by Union

Government to check devastating floods in

Bihar

(b) the total financial ass istance sanc

tioned to Biharout of the Flood Relief Fund

during the last three years ; and

(c) whether any concrete proposal is

C alam ity

underconsiderationofGovt. to providefloodrelief Inthe aforesa id State?

(b) ,

The amount of C entral assistance

released to BiharState during the last three

years forfloods andothernaturalca lam ities

is as under:

1987-88

1988- 89 Earthquake. localised floods .

1

1989- 90 Floods and otherlocalised

calam it ies like drought. fire. etc.

(c) The recomm endations of the Ninth [English]FinanceC omm issionrelat ing to sett ingupof

Calam ity Relief Fund foreach State have Slm pllflcatlonof Tax Lawsbeenaccepted by the C entralGovt . and thearrangem ents forthecustody and operation

of the Fund are being worked out . ForBiharSta te. the contribution to the Fund. every

yearduring the Ninth Finance C om m iss ion

periodwillbeRs . crores by the C entre

and Rs . crores by the State.

10413. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTANARSIMHARAJAWADIYAR: Will the Ministerof FINANC E be pleased to state :

(a ) whetherthe GreaterMysore Chamberof C om m erce had suggested s im plifica



TRI) : (a) C omprehens ive plans for flood

m anagem ent for all the river systems in

Biharhave beenprepared byGangs Flood

C ontrol C omm iss ionand sent to the State

Govt . fortaking follow up action.

MAY 25 . 1990

(a ) the criteria for select ionof press

persons to accom pany the Prim e Minister

during his tours inthe country and outs ide

the country ; and

(b) whether cons iderat ion is given in

State-wise selectionof press persons se

companying the Prime Minister.




UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b) . The m a incriterion

of select ionis the best poss iblecoverage. In

foreigntours . the guiding factorof selection

is to secure the best poss ible coverage for

India’

s foreignpolicy initiatives andthePrime

Minister’

s vis its . Weightage is givento per

sons having experience incovering interna

tiona l affa irs . Representation is given to

regionallanguagenewspapers. to theextent

poss ible .

Post ing of Husband andWi fe at sam e

Stat ion

10416 . SHRIJ . C HOKKARAO :WiIltheMinisterof FINANC E be pleased to state:

(a ) whetherthere is any policy forpost

ing of officers/employees of nationalised

banks at the sam e stat ionwith theirspouses

employed in C entral Governm ent/State

Governm ent departm ent; and

(b) if not. the reasons therefor?



TRI) : (a ) and (b) . Inview of the instruct ions

applicable to Govt . em ployees but keepinginm ind the factors peculia to the banking

irdustry . adm inistrative requirem ents of the

banks and transf norm s . etc banks have

beenadvised to >rm ulate a policy to post

husband andwit J at the sam e stationwhere

both of th m work i' the sam e bank or in

different banks . C a as where eitherof the

Interm s of Sastry Award applicable to

award staff employees . they are. norm ally,

not transferred outside the language areas

inwh ich they are serving .

EntrepreneurDevelopm ent Program m e

C onducted by SDI

10417. searINDRAJ IT GUPTA: Wil

theMinisterof FINANC Ebepleased to state:

(a ) whether the State Bank of Ind ia

conducted EntrepreneurDevelopm ent Pro

gramm e from Novem ber17 to Decem ber

18. 1985 forSouth Arcot at Neyveli ;

(b) if so . the details thereof .

(c) whetheraftersuccessfully complet

ing that programm e som e of the trainees

were instructed to subm it project report for

securing loans ;

(d) if so . theirnumberand howm any of

them have beengivenloans ; and

(e) the steps being taken to sanction

loans to rem a ining tra inees who have sub

m itted project reports?



TRI) : (a ) and (b) . State Bank of India (SBI)conducted an Entrepreneur Developm entProgram m e (EDP) from 1 .85 to

atNeyveli forSoulyArcot D istrict . 24part ici

spouses doesnot belong to banks are not

covered underthe above guidelines . Under

theOfficers ServicesRegulations . applicable

to banks officers . they have allIndia transfer

liability and due to adm inistrat ive reasons .

their transfers m ay be unavo idable and.

therefore. it has not beenposab le to allow

any blanket exem ption for officers of the

banks from the transferonthe ground that

the otherspouse belongs to the State/C en

tralGovernm ent .

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pants were tra ined in various aspects of

(c) to (a) . All the partic'

pants to the

training program me were advised to subm it

theirprojects . However. only 4 participants

subm itted the projects forsanct ionof loans .

0utolwh ich . twowere sanct ioned assitance

Iortheirprojects . One was not found viable

and the fourth applicant could not be as

sisted due to his indebtedness prior to h is

training program m e.

[Translation]

Development of Tourist Centres InChattisgarh Dlstrlct of Madhya Pradesh

10418. SHRIRESHAM LAL JANGDE:

WilltheMinisterofTOURISM be pleased to

(a ) thedeta ils oltheplaceswhereboard

ing and lodg ing facilities are being provided

by theIndiaTouri sm Developm ent C orpora

Bandhavgarh Nat ionalPark


tionorby the StateGovernm ent inthe State

of Madhya Pradesh ;

(b) the am ount spent forthe development of tourism in C hattisgarh district of

Madhya Pradesh during the last threeyears ;

(c) whetherthere is any proposa lunder

cons iderationof UnionGovernm ent to develop Moramdev Ratanpur. S irpur. Dantewada. Rajm . Sheorinarayan as tourist

centres ; and

(a) rso . the details thereof?

Kanha NationalPark

Bhopal Khajuraho Sanchi

Mandu Satna

C h itrakoct Orchha Shivpuri

Panchm arhi

Indore Pipariya

J aba lpur Rookhad

(b) The C entra lDepartm ent ofTourism

have sanctioned the following schem es in

( i ) Cafeteria -cum - to ilet facilities at Dantewada

C hattisgarh districts during the last three

years :

(Rs . inlakhs)

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEMINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRSANDMINISTEROF STATE INTHEMINISTRY OF TOURISM (SHRISATYA PAL

MALIK) : (a ) Boarding and lodg ing facilities

are provided at the following pieces by India

Tourism Developm ent C orporation and/or

by the State Governm ent in Madhya

Pradesh

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(11) Ways ide am enities at Kawardha

( irr) Ways ide facilities at Bhoramdeo

(c) No . S ir.

(d) Does not arise.

C om pllance of RBIDirections by

ForeignBanks

10419. SHRIPHOOL C HANDVARMA:

Wi llthe Ministerof FINANC E be pleased to

state:

(a) whetherthe foreignbanks operatinginthe country are complying with the direc

tions of theReserve Bank of India regarding

m inimum depos its inan account . work ing

hours . receiving sm all denom inationnotes

(b ) ifnot. the reasons therefor;

(c) whetherthese banks cons iderloan

applications below Rs . 5 lakh ; and

(d) ifnot.the steps proposed to be taken

aga inst these banks?


MINISTRY OF FINANC E (SHRI ANIL

SHASTRI) : (a ) and (b ) . Reserve Bank of

India (RBI) has reported that it has not is

sued any direct ive to the banks governing

the m a intenance of m inimum ba lance in

depos it accounts . The IndianBank‘

s Asso

ciation (IBA) has issued ground rules and

code of eth ics inth is beha lf to be followed by

the m em berbanks . However. it is opento

the m em berbanks to m ake theirownrules in

regard to the m inimum ba lance etc. RBIhas

furtherreported that the foreignbanks oper

ating in India are following the m inim um

work ing hours prescribed by it and that it hasnot received any compla ints about the for


1

eignbanks not accept ing sm alldenom ina

tionnotes from the public.

(c) and (d) . According to the inform ation

available with RBI. the foreignbanks con

s iderloanapplications belowRs . five Iakh .

[English]

Go ld Ornam ents

10420. SHRIMATIJAYAWANTINAV

INC HANDRA MEHTA: Wi ll the MinisterofFINANC E be pleased to state:

(a ) the numberof samples collected byGovernment in Maharashtra under Gold

C ontrolAct s ince. 1988;

(b) the actiontakeninthe regard so far

(c) whether Government propose to

m ake any provis ion to indicate any‘

Ha ll

Mark’

onallgoldornam ents topreventcheat

ing by jewellers?


MINISTRY OF FINANC E (SHRI ANIL

SHASTRI) : (a) Ninety- two (92 )

(b) 01these s ixtynine sam ples relate to

regularseizures such as prim ary gold for

eignm arked gold etc. Inrem a ining cases

samples were taken to determ ine correct

ness of stam ped purifyof gold ornam ents at

India Governm ent Mint . Bom bay. Out of

these3sam pleswere of thedeclared puri ty .

In9 cases notice to Show C ause were is

sued and 3 cases have been adjudicatedand penalty im posed . 6 cases are pending

finalisation of adjudication and 10 cases

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pending Issue of Show Cause Notice .

(c) There is provis ion inSection30 of

theGold C ontrol Act requiring dealers to

stamppurity onornaments .

Export of Agricultural Products

10421 . SHRITEJ NARAYAN SINGH:Vi ltheMinisterof C OMMERCEbepleased

(a) whether Government propose to

export Agricultural products through the

Mi dstryofAgriculture;

(b) if so . the reasons therefor;

(c) the deta ils of Agricultural products

p roposed to be exponed through Ministry ofAgriculture; and

(d) how farthe proposedchangewillbeb eneficial to farm ers?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEMINISTRY OF C OMMERC E (SHRIARANGIL SREDHARAN) : (a ) No. S ir.

(b) to (d) . Do not arise .

Telecasth g of Malaya lam ,

Progrerrrm es

from Air. Trivandrum

10422 . SHRIsunEsrrKODIKKUNNIL-wit theMinisterofINFORMATIONANDBROADCASTING be pleased to state:

(a) whetherGovernm ent have cons idtiredtotelecastMalayalam program mefrom

AIR. Trivandrum stat ion to Gulf countries0Specially to United Arab Em irate; and

(b) if so . the tim e bywh ich itwould start

IBIecasting the Malayalam program me?

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATIONANDBROADC ASTINGANDMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P .

UPENDRA) : (a) and (b) . All India Radio


C inem a Theatre InAkashvanl Build ingBom bay

10423. SHRIRAM NAIK:Wi lltheMin

lster of INFORMATION AND

BROADC ASTING be pleased to state:

(a ) whether a cinem a theatre In the

building of AkashvanlInMumba i (Bombay)ls not being used though it ls located Ina

prime locality bearC hurchgate station;


(c) the numberof days Itwas used for

the period from 1stApriI. 1989t031stMarch .

1990; and

(d) the efforts m ade to use the theatre

for other purposes Including dram as and

public functions?

Trivandrum does not telecast any pro

gramm es and it Is also not possible techni

ca llytobeam telecasts toGulfcountries from

Trivandrum . There is dso no proposal for

broadcasting ofMalayalam program m es for

Gulf countries from All India Radio. Trivan

drum . However. a fullfledged service com

prisingprogram mes inHindi.Malayalam and

Arabic directed to the Gulf region is pro

posedtobe introducedaspart cf the t lan

proposals of AllIndia Radio . The Servicewill

prim arily be directed towards Indianethnic

Groups inSaudi Arabia . Om an. UnitedArab

Em irates . North and South Yomam . Kuwa it.

Jordan. and parts of Iran and Iraq . The

Servicewillstart as soonas two numbers of

250KW SW transm itters being installed at

Panaji, forthe purpose. are com m iss ioned.




UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b) . There is no cinem a

theatre s ituated inthe building ofAkashvanl

inBom bay. There is anAuditorium inthe

AIR. Broadcasting House C omplex at

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C hurchgate . Bom bay . Th is auditorium was

handed overby A.I.R. to the National Film

Developm ent C o rporationforscreening of

film s . However. the auditorium was taken

back from Nat ionalFilm Developm ent C or

porationforsetting up AIR’

s Multi - track re

cording studio .

(c) and (d) . Aftertaking back the audito

rium from National Film Developm ent C or

poration in 1988. it is being used for the

purpose of recording of program m es before

invited audiences . Renovat ionwork to m ake

the auditorium suitable for muItI- track re

cording studio and civil modificationworks

have already beeninit iated .

Ass istance to Go ldsm iths

10424. SHRIR. JEEVARATHINAM :

SHRIR.N. RAKESH:

SHRI PHDOL C HAND

VARMAz,

SHRIA.R. ANTULAY :

WilltheMinisterofFINANC Ebepleased

to state:

(a )whetherGovernment haveassessed

the numberof licenced goldsm iths in the

country and theirannualdem and of gold;

(b) whetherthere is a propose to give

loanorsom e relief to the goldsm lths fortheir

rehabilitat ion being affected by the Gold

C ontrolAct now repealed ;

(c) if so . the deta ils thereof ;

(d) whetherGovernm ent have takenany m easures to m eet the requirem ent of

gold inthe country ; and

(e) if not , the reasons therefor?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a ) Thenum berofcertifiedGo ldsm iths


in the country was in 1989. No

assessment is howeverposs ibleofthe annual

dem and of gold required by goldsm iths .

(b) No . S ir.

(c) Does not arise .

(d) No . S ir.

(9 ) Gold is not anessentialcom modityhenceno actionhas beentakento m eet the

requirem ent of gold inthe country .

NRIlnvestrnent Inthe C apital Issues of

IndianC om panies

10425 . SHRIDILIP SINGHJUDEO :

SHRI SHANTARAM

POTDUKHE:

WilltheMinisterof FINANC Ebepleased

to state:

(a ) -whetherthere is analarm ing slum p

in the Non-Res ident Indian (NRI) invest

m ents inthecapitalissues of IndianC om pa


(c)whethereveninthedom est icmoney

m arket . the investors are ina dilem m a over

debenture tactics of the C ompanies ; and

(d) if so . the m easures Governm ent

propose to take to countenance thes ituat ion

andrevampthe investm entm arket -bothNRI

and domest ic investm ents?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a ) to (d) . Investors response to the

issue ofcom pany depends upona variety offactors , including the general state of the

capitalm arket. the m arketing effort put inbythe com pany. its past record. the expecta

tions and perception of the investors and

WrittenAnswers

otheroptions available to tham . Various steps

forthe developm ent of the m arket and to

protect the interest of investors are taken

from tim e to tim e. wh ich is anongo ing proc

ass and willcontinue .

Setting up o f Televis ionTransm itters

Unit InRura lAreas of Srlkakulam

10426 . DR. VISHWANATHAM :Willthe

Ministerof INFORMATION AND BROAD

CASTING be pleased to state :

(a) whetherthe RuralTelevis ionTrans

mitterunit is proposed to be set up inrural

areas of Srikakulam during 1990- 91 ;

(b) if so . thedeta ils of the locations ; and

(c) if not. the reasons therefor?


UPENDRA) : (a) to (c) .Whereas a lowpowerTVtransm itter is already functioning at Sri

kakulam . the h igh power( 10KM) TV transmitterat Visakhapatnam also provides serv

ice inparts of Srikakulam district Includingruralareas . There is . however. no approved

scheme at present to set up anotherTV

transm itter in Srikakulam district . It is the

endeavourof theGovernm ent to extendTVservice to the rem a ining uncovered parts of

thecountry including those inSrikakulam

district as expeditiouslyas poss ible .depend

ent upon the ava ilability of funds for th is

Purpose.

Loss to ITOC from Tourist Transport

10427 . SHRIKASHIRAM RANA: Willthe Minister of TOURISM be pleased to

state:

(a ) whether efforts are go ing on for

some years to closedown/reduce the trans

port fleet of India Touri sm Developm ent

JYAISTHA4. 1912 (SAKA) Wri ttenAnswers 86

C orporat ion (ITOC ) onthe ground that it Is

not econom ica lly viable to run transport


(c) the reasons forthe loss inthe trans

. port activity of ITDC and efforts m ade to

curtail/reduce the losses?


MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRSANDMINISTEROF STATE INTHEMINIS


MALIK) : (a ) to (c) . The roleof ITDC has beenofacata lyst inproviding transportationneeds

at tourist destinations . It has . therefore. been

the policy of ITDC to withdraw from such

places where private or other transport

operators come forward tocaterto the trans

port needs cl Tourists . Accordingly from

1983onwards . ITDC closeddownnine trans

portunits and has furtherplans to reduce its

fleet in the com ing years so as to reta in

ultim ately a hardcoreof about 50vehicles at

locations . comm ercia lly viable. The ma in

reasons forthe loss was provisionof com

petitive transportationfacilities by the sm all

private operators/State Tourism Developm ent corporat ions whose wage costs and

overheads were lower.

Loanfrom I.M.F.

10428. SHRIKALPNATHRAI:WilltheMinisterof FINANC E be pleased to state:

(a ) the am ount of loangranted by the

InternationalMonetary Fund to India duringthe last Financia lyear;

Efforts arebeing made to reduce losses

and improve performance by changing and

enlarging the product m ix besides laying

more emphas is ontourand travel activity .

Fortheyear1989- 90. theAshokTravels and

Tours’

profit is est im ated to beof the orderof

Rs . 53 lakhs .

MAY 25.1990

(b) whetherthe same was fully ut ilised

forthe projects forwhich it was m eant; and

(c) the amount of loanexpected from

I.M.F. during the current financia lyear?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a) No loanwas sought from the IMF

during the lastfinancialyear.(b) and (c) . Does not arise.

Distributionof Ironand SteelItem s by

Sell

10429 . SHRIKESHARILAL: Will theMinisterof STEEL ANDMINES be pleased

to state :

(a ) whether scarce steel item s like

Round sheets m m ) inspecial!

ordinary quality have been released byBranch Sales Office, SAIL. NewDelh iunder

TBS/LTC during January-MarchlApril

- June.

1990by violating distributionnorm s ;

(b) theallocat ionmadepercentagewiseforRounds/GP Sheets inboth the qualitiesduring the above period

(c) whetherthese percentages of allo

cationwere applied uniform ly to allcustom

ers ;

(d) whether pro-offersladditional pre

offers quant ities of GP sheets . LFO were

subsequently changed into ordinary qua litywhile status

‘

A’

dem and forordinary qualitywas pending ; and

(e) If so . the quant it ies so changed

alongwith the deta ils of the Parties and the

reasons forsuch change?



TIC E (SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) No .

S ir.

(b ) There is no percentage-wise alloca

tionforrounds/GP . Sheets .


(d) When alternative quality m aterial

was offered aga inst TBS of January-March .

1989. there were no pending Status‘

A‘

bookings forthe m aterial.

(a ) About 166 tonnes ofordinary qua lityG .P. Sheets were supplied by SAIL tofiveparties aga inst LFO G .P. sheets . so as to

obviate the possibility of paym ent of penal

ties aga inst TBS Booking .

Advert is ing expend iture [

onSoft Drh ks

and Product C ost

10430. SHRISHIKIHO SEMA:Willthe

Ministerof FINANC Ebe pleased to state :

(a )whetherGovernm ent are aware that

huge expenditure is incurred by the m anu

facturers of soft drinks onthe advertis ing!

publicity resulting inh ighercost of the prod

ucts

(D) If so . the average cost of publicity

expenditure oneach bottle

(c) whetherGovernment propose toputany ceiling on advert is ing expenditure to

bring downthe prices ; and

(d) If so. the steps takenorproposed to

be takeninth is regard?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a) to (d) . Inform ationIs beingcollectedandwillbe la id ontheTable of the House In

due course.

Perm iss ionforTest ifying of 7 C Ls

Outs ideWharf Area

10431 . PROF . K.V . THOMAS :Wi lltheMinisterof FINANC E be pleased to state :

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wers

TIIEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES


tw ie INGS l-IGOSWAMI) : (a ) and (b) .

The Governm ent have decided to set up

h igh- level Judicial C om m iss ionforthe ap

pointm ent of Judges inthe High C ourts and

the Suprem e C ourt . and forthe transferof

Judges from one High C ourt to another. Its

compos itionisg iveninthe C onstitut ionS ixty

Seventh Am endm ent Bill. which was intro

duced inthe Lok Sabha on

No otherC om m iss ionis proposed to be

set up at present .

Interest charged by IndianOverseas

Bank. C a lcutta

10434. SHRI V. SREENIVASA

PRASAD :Will the m inisterof FINANC E be

pleased to state :

(a ) whetherthe IndianOverseas Bank .C alcutta has initiateddiscuss ionswith som e

Public Sector Undertakings inconnect ion

with interest C hargedonsomeaccount- hold

are of the Bank;

(b) if so .whetheranyprogress has been

m ade inthis regard; and

(c) if so . the deta ils thereof?



TRI) : (a) to (c) . IndianOverseas Bank has

not initiated discussions with any Public

SectorUndertaking regarding interest con

cess ioninany of the accounts .

Workers of Re- ro lllng Industry

10435 . PROF . VIJAY KUMARMALHOTRA: Will the Minister of STEEL

ANDMINES be pleased to state:

(a ) whetherGovernment have receivedrepresentations from the AllIndia SteelRe

MAY 25 . 1990

rollers Associationregarding the prob

difficulties faced by the workers of th

rolling industry inthe country;

(b) if so . the detai ls thereof ;

(c) the act iontakenorproposed

taken to m itigate the hardsh ips of

workers ;

(d) if not. the reasons therefor;

(e) whetherGovernm ent propose

exam ined thedifficulties of theworker

panel of experts ; and

(I) if so . when?

(b) to (d) . Ava ilability of sem is!

from m a inproducers is less than2096 t

dom estic ava ilability i.e . including fro

secondary sector. Increased product

the secondary sector is further bein

couraged . Inaddition. imports of son

lots are allowed through MMTC as

againstReplenishm ent/AdditionalLice

(e) and No. S ir/Does not arisr

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Im port o f Prim e cok ing C oa l

10436 . SHRIBRIJ BHUSHA

WARI: .Will the Minister of STEEL

MINES be pleased to state:

(a ) the total quantity of prim e c

coalbeing imported annually;

THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDII

ANDTHE MINISTER OF LAW AND

TIC E (SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) .

tion has been drawn by the Assoc

towards closure of som e re- rolling m il

to inadequate supplies of raw m ateri .

the m a inproducers .

JYAISTHA4. 1912 (SAKA) Wri tenAnsm 94

ie m nualproductionof primew k

Ithe country; and

e reasons forlrnponing it?

MINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES

1989-90

forto bridge the quantitat ive and

i gaps betweenthe requirement

Inous ly availableprime quality low

kirglcalcokingcoal. theIntegratedits resort to Imports . The imported

landed with the indigenous coal

i higherash content percentage In

rs Including des ired ash levels .

he productionof prim ecoking coal

untry during 1988- 89 was

ones and was estimated to have

I4m illiontonnes during 1989- 90.

g of lndla-Pak istanBusiness:IIforWomenEntrepreneurs

7. SHRIR.N. RAKESH:

SHRIMANIKRAO HODLYA

GAVIT:

the Minister of COMMERCE beoflmm

whether a m eeting of the India-

o

Business C ouncil forWomenEnIrs was held InNew Delhi onao

0;

ANDTHE MINISTEROF LAWAND JUSTICE (SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) and

the Iast two years and those planned forthe

current yearare givenbelow:

1990-91

(b) If so . the detai ls thereof

(c) the nam es of the Members who

part icbated Inthe meeting and

(d) thesalient features ofthediscussion

held In the meeting and the suggestions

givento Government by the C ouncil?

WOMEN‘

SWINGOFNATIONALALLIANC EOF YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS

(1) Smt . Neena Malhotra. C hairper


MINISTRY OF COMMERC E (SHRIARANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) to (d) . Thesecond meet ing of the Joint Bus iness

Women’s C ouncilof India andPakistanwasheld InNew Delhi on28th April. 1990. The

partlc'

pants underlined the need forcooparationbetweenthe two countries inimpart

ing training inAdm inistrat ive and Business

Managem ent. for taking up study tours in

India and Pakistanto ident ify the areas of

mutualcooperationand to Improve volum e

of trade betweenIndia and Pakistanof the

mutual advantage of the two countries . No

suggestionsweregivenby theC ouncilto the

Government.

The following members partlcbated

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(2 ) Sm l . RajniAggarwal. C ha irperson.International C o m m ittee

(3) Sm t . Priya Khanna . Vice C ha irper

son

(4) Sm i . Shoba Arora . Vice C hairper

son. Delhi C ham ber

(5) Sm t . NarinderPalKaur. Secretary

PAKISTAN ASSOC IATION OF

WOMENENTREPRENEURS (PAWE)

( 1 ) Begum Salm a Ahm ed . Pres ident

(2 ) Bushra Ajm a l. Jo int Secretary

(3) Frazana Rahm an. Secretary . ln

form ation

(4) Basra Sultana

(5) Sham ina Sultana

Im port of Super301 onText iles Exportto U.S .A.

10438 . SHRIS . KRISHNA KUMAR:

Wi lltheMinisterof C OMMERC Ebe pleased

(a ) the impact of US . decis ionto list

India under Super 301 . on the export of

textiles ; and

(b) the steps being contem plated to

save textile export?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEMINISTRY OF C OMMERC E (SHRIARANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) So farno actionaga inst Indianexports to the United Stateshas beentakenby theUS underprovis ionsof SUper301 . Inthe circum stances . there is

no questionof text iles exports from India toUS being affected by the listing of India.

MAY 25. 1990

(b) Does not arise.

Smugg ling of Stat ionery

10439. SHRIMATIBASAVA RA

WARI:

SHRIG .S . BASAVARAJ :

Willi baMinisterof FINANC Ebe pic

to state:

(a ) whether large sca le smugglin

stationery from Nepa l. Hong Kong and

gapore is pos ing a m ajorthreat to the In

stationery industry ; and

(b) if so . the steps taken/proposed l

takento check th is smuggling?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN.

'

MINISTRYOF FINANC E (SHRIANILSI

TRI) : (a) and (b ) . The inform ation is

readilyava ilable . It is beingcollected ant

be la id onthe table of the House .

S ick Tea Gardens

10440. SHRIC HITTA BASU : Wil

Ministerof C OMMERC Ebepleased to s

(a ) whetherthere is any proposa lu

cons iderationof Government fornat ion

ing some sick tea gardens ;

(b) if so , the nam es of the gardens ;

(c) at what stage the proposalstant

present?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN

MINISTRY OF C OMMERC E (SHRI

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) No . S ir.

(b) and (c) . Does not arise.

Stock Markets

10441 . SHRIP.M. SAYEED: Wil

Ministerof FINANC E be pleased to sta

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(a ) whetherthe PHD C hamberof C om

merce and Industry has pleaded that more

stock m arkets be set up particularly inthe

State capitals ;

(b ) if so . the deta ils of the proposa ls

alongwith the reasons advanced; and

(c) Government’

s reactionthereto?



TRI) : (a ) and (b) . PHD C ham berof C om

merceandIndustry. inaMemorandum dated

3l st October. 1989. had suggested inter

alia . the developm ent of new stock ex

changes as the existing stock exchanges

would be underservice stra inonaccount of

fikely increase inthe num berof registeredcom panies . as well innum berof investors

and volume of transactions by the turnof

century .

(c) Governm ent have noted the above

suggestion.

Expenditure onRenovat ionof ITOC

Hotels

10442 . SHRIMATIGEETA MUKHERJEE: IMII the Minister of TOURISM be

pleased to state:

(a ) the details of funds earm arked and

spent by the ITDC forthe purpose of addi

tions . alternations and renovations of Its

hotel properties during the last three years .

year-wise and hotel-wise


(b) the month-wise deta ils of amount

spent onth is account during 1989- 90;

(c) whetherthe am ount spent inthe last

month of 1989- 90 was disproport ionately

h igh ; and

(d) if so . the reasons therefor?

(b ) The requis ite inform at ionis givenin

the attached Statem ent - ll.





MALIK) : (a) The requis ite inform ation is

giveninthe attached statem ent- I.

(c) and (d) . The expend iture booked in

the last month of 1989- 90 has beento the

tune of Rs . lakhs aga inst the total

expenditure of the order of Rs .

lakhs forthe whole year. The figure of Rs.

lakhs booked inthe month ofMar90

is inclus ive of ( 1 Rs . 156 lakhs fortheworks

directly undertaken/executed inthe whole

yearby various units (forwh ich the advice

was received inMar (2 ) Rs . 50lakhs has

beenonaccountofopeningof letterofcredit!

paym entofcustom duty;and (3) a sum ofRs .

50 lakhs pa id as mobilisat ionadvances for

future works thereby leaving a balance of

Rs . 100lakhs approxim atelyas having been

spentonadditiorValteratiorVrenovatIonworks

during the month ofMar90which com pares

favourably with the expenditure incurred in

the earliermonths .

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SRISchem e forSm all Sca le Industries

10443. SHRISUDHIR GIRI: Will the

Ministerof FINANC E be pleased to state :

(a ) whether the State Bank of India

(SBI) has launched a newschem e knownas“Rehabilitat ionclinics

”

to contribute to the

so lutionof the specificproblem s facedoy the

sm all sca le industries ;


(c) thenum berofwom enentrepreneurs

who are expected to benefit by the cell

opened forthem by the SBIduring the year

1990?



TRI) : (a ) and (b) . State Bank of India has

reported that to expedite finalisationof reha

bilitationpackages for s ick sm all sca le in

dustries . rehabilitationcells have beencre

ated at its Zona lOffices with anAdm inistra

tive Officer (Rehabilitation) incharge of the

C ell. The in- house team cons isting of vari

ous functionaries of the bank a lso m eets

periodically to discuss problem s relat ing to

rehab ilitat ionof the s ick units .

(c) StateBankof India has reported that

inaddition to the various schem es under

sm allscaleand sm allbusiness financeunder

wh ich the wom en entrepreneurs receive

credit faci lities . the bank has lauched a

schem e ca lled“Stree Shakti Package

”

whereuriderconcessions ininterest rate and

m argins havebeengiven. Underth is schem e

lakhs wom enentrepreneurs have so far

beengranted advances and the total out

standing loans as oh Decem ber1989were

Rs . 86 crores .

MAY 25. 1990

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Form s of Unit Trust of lndla InI

10444. KUMARIUMA BHARI

theMinisterofFINANC Ebepleased

(a ) whether som e of the form

Unit Trust of India are in English

mostly inEnglish . if so . the num be i

form s :

(b) the num berof form s requir

filled inEnglish only; and

(c) thereasons fornot allowing 1

various schem es to be filled inHindi

whenth is arrangem ent is likely to bi

THE DEPUTY MINISTER l

MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANII

TRI) : (a) to (c) . According to the inf:

received from UTI. m ost of their 1

present are inEnglish foroperatic

sons as data relating to the largenur

Unit holders and tim ely paym ent

dends etc. have to be done with th

computers . TheUTIhas beenasked

duce as m any form s inHindi as fee

Alleged Harassm ent of Revel

Officials

10445 . SHRI BALASAHEB

PATIL : Will the m inister of FINAI

pleased to state:

(a ) the deta ils of cases of allegassm ent of revenue officials as rep

the‘

Tim es of India’

dated 19th Marc

(b) whetherany invest igationh

m ade to findout if any harassm ent h

caused to the officia ls as alleget

report ;

MAY 25 . 1990

(c) thenumberof employees recni itedonthat job and the deta ils of jobs entrusted

to them ?


MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRSANDMINISTEROF STATEINTHEMINIS


MALIK) : (a) to (c) . Prim arily forthe prestigIous C I-IOGMConference. a skeletonChem i

calFoodTesting Laboratorywas set upwith

4 employees in 1983 inAshok Hotel, New

Delhi. wh ich functioned only upto 1986 -87.

Two of the fouremployees left the services

in1984 and the services of the rem a ining

two (viz ananalyst and a LabAssistant) are

being utilised by ITDC in its Medical and

Health Wing for ass isting its Delhi- basedhotel unit in ensuring compliance of the

provis ions of Food and Adulterat ion Act.

ITOC has not incurred any expenditure on

equ'

pment/machinery forth is set up duringlast 3years .

Export of Spices

10449. SHRID.M. PUTIE GOWDA:

WilltheMinisterofCOMMERCEbepleasedto state

(a ) tha target set andquantum of spices

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exported during the year 1989- 90 and b r

eignexchangeearnad;

( b) whether the target of expon ol

spices during the year 1989- 90 had been

(c) Inot. the reasons therefor; and

(d) the steps takenby theGovemment

to boost the export ol spices?

THE MINISTER OF STATE N THE

MINISTRY OF C OMMERCE (SHRIAR

ANGILSREEDHARAN) : (a) and (b) . Astate

ment is attached.

(c) Export of spices has exceeded

targets . quantIty-wise. although there was a

shortfall. value-wise during 1989- 90. Th is

was ma inly because of lesser unit vakre

realisat ionand lesserexport of pap er. due

to easy supply position inthe internat ional

market .

(d) Export promotion measure being

undertaken include publicity campaigns .

particbation intrade fa irs . organisationof

buyer-sellermeets andqua lityImprovem ent

program mes. inadditionto various Incen

tives li te C OS and Import replenishm ent .


rlbutlonof Ironand SteelMeterua

0450. SHRINAKUL NAYAK:

SHRIKESHARILAL:

VIIIthe Ministerof STEELANDMINES

eased to state:

a) whetherIronand Steel m aterials

beenreleased byBranch Sales Office.

New Delh i toparties covered by Ad

Departm enta lC om m itteerG ovem m ent

Reports No . 10and 11 dated 2 1 0cto

January. QOand26December. 1989

ctively on the bas is of fate capacity

cafes aga inst the contents of. the os

certificates to som e DC TD units for

Iercial produd ion against chartered

eer’

s cert ificate and to som e DGTD

withoutobta iningclearancefrom DGTD

ding com mencement of comm ercial

lotion;

b) whether these part ies were also

red m aterials aga inst TBS booking

red aga instconfirm edbookings ofDRS

more and by allocating light sections of

rrs ionangles inTBS to private part ies

refusing supplies to EEPC RO holders

Ivan. delaying defence priorities ; and

if so . the protectionGovernm ent

as to provide to custom ers who are

:ened by these officia ls?

HEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES

THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUS

(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (3) B80 .

NewDelhi has supplied Ironand Steel

ials interm s of JFG guidelines and on

iss ion of docum ents required under

ridelines .

)n receipt of a com plaint from a party

red to the Delh i branch . an internaln

’

utee inSAIL was asked to look into it .C omm ittee subm itted its report on

C erta incorrective actions aris

ing out of the reportwere takenby the zonal

office . Th e issues brought out by the party

were also a subject m atterof audit mem os in

Decem ber. 89 and January. 90. Th e audit

memos pertaining to distributionplicy have

beenreplied by SAIL and the otherperta in

ing to d ishonouring of C heques is under

reply. Since th is m attercame to thenotice of

the head- quarters of SAILMarketing organi

sation. two senior level com m ittees were

a lso appo inted by SAIL to look into the

issues inits entirety. The C om m ittees have

com e to the conclusionthat

( i ) neither the JPC nor the internal

guidelines of SAIL have beenvio

lated.

( if) the branch has followed pract ices

prevalent overa num berof years .

(III) allbookings have beenm ade ona

uniform bas is .

It Is not possible forSAIL to check the

authencityof docum ents ;Whereverauthen

ticity of docum ents have beenquestioned in

thecompla ints . these havebeen sent to the

issuing authorities fortheirverification.

(b) Supplies of m aterials have been

m ade in consonance with the la id down

guidelines and procedures . There was no

pendingdem and from EEPC IDefence at the

time of offering the item s referred to inthe

question.


Establishm ent of Second TigerSafari In

Karnataka

10451 . SHRIV. KRISHNA RAO : Wi ll

the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to

(a ) whethera Second TigerSafari is

proposed to be established inKarnataka ;

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(b ) if so. the detalls of lts location. the

area and the‘

numberof different species of

animals to be kept there;

(c) WhetherGovernment propou to

provide specialcentral assistance to m ake

the safari complex a famous tourist centre;

and

(a) if so. the deta ils thereof?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEMINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS

ANDMINISTEROFSTATEINTHEMINIS


MALIK) : (a ) No. Sir.

(b) Does not arise.

(c) No. Sir.

(d) Does not arise.

[Translation]

Incom e-Tax Ra ids

10452 . SHRIRAJVEER SINGH: Will

theMinisterofFINANCEbepleasedto state:


(a) the numberof blg andwell known

companies ra ided by the Departm ent of

Income Tax during the last two years ;

(b) the deta ils of companies wherein

Irregularitles were found inthese ra ids ; and

(c) the outcome of the ra ids?

Details of searches which resulted in

seizure of prime- fade unaccounted assets

worth Rs . 1 crore ormore. are givenbelow.


MINISTRYOFFiNANC E(SHRIANII. SHAS

TRI) : (a) to (c) . The IncomeTax Department

conducted 11 .489searches at various prem

ises including thoseofcompanies during the

fina ncialyears 1988-89and 1989- 90. These

searches resulted inthe seizure of prima

facieunaccountedassets ofest im atedvalueof Ra .280.73 crores . Inthe statem ents re

corded during the course of the searches.

thepersons searched have disclosedunac

counted income of Rs .442 .80crores .

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Sett ing up of NewHotels InKera la

10453. SHRIA. C HARLES : Will theMinisterof TOURISM be pleased to state:

(a ) whethersom e leading hotel indus

tries inthe country and abroad have applied

for setting up hotels at the touri st centres in

Kerala to boost tourism inthe State;

(b) It so . the deta ils thereof and the

num ber of applicat ions cleared - ln th is re

gard; and

(c) the further steps to be takenby

Governm ent inthat regard to ensure ade

quate hotel facilities inKerala?





MALIK) : (a ) No . S ir.

(b) Does not arise.

Ironore concentrate

Ironore pellets

(b) KIOC L has planned anexport

m illidh tonnes of ironore concentrate and

m illiontonnes of ironore pellets in1990

91

MAY 25. 1990 WrittenAnswers 14

(c) TheGovernm ent has takensteps

provide various incentives to hotels to e

courage setting up of more hotels in t

country including Kerala .

Export of IronOre by KIOC L

10454. SHRIMANORANJANBHAKT

Wi ll the Ministerof STEEL ANDMINES I

pleased to state:

(a) the quantum of ironore exported !

Kudremukh IronOre C om pany Ltd . in198

89 and 1989- 90;

(b) the target set forthe export of in

ore by the said company in1990- 91 ; and

(c) the steps takento ach ieve the t:

THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINI

AND THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JU

TIC E (SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a) In

ore exported by Kudremukh IronOre C oI

pany Lim ited (KIOC L) in1988- 89 and 198

90 is as follows:

1989- 90

(c) Th e C om pany has already obtain.

orders forthe m ajorquantity of supplies a

does not envisage any difficulty inreach i i

the target .

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Policy Regard ing h dustriel Relat ions

h Banks

10455. SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR

GANGWAR: Will the Ministerof FINANCEb epleased to state:

(a ) whetherGovernm ent proposes torevise the policy inregard to the industrial

relations inbanks ;

(b) if so. the deta ils thereof andwhenit

i sIt aly to be im plem ented ; and

(c) the m anner inwh ich the bank em

pbyees willbe benefitted?


WISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a ) No. S ir.

(b) and (c) . Do not arise.

Pred i ct ionand Price of Meta llic Ores

10456 . SHRI SATYANARAYAN

JATIYA: “fill the Ministerof STEEL ANDMINES be pleased to state:

(a) the m anes of metallicores m ined inthecountry during the last three years ;

(i t) the quantum consum ed fordom es

licuse thereof and .the quantum of m etallic

Ores exported alongwith the export price of

Oaeh ore ; and

(c) the standard m arket priceof each ofthe indigenous m etallic ore and im portedMetals separately?

THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINESANDTHE MINISTER or: LAW AND JUSTICE(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) to (c) .

JYAISTHA4. 1912 (SAKA) Wri tenAnswers 146

Inionnat ionis beingcollected andwillbe laid

onthe Table of the House.

C able carFacility at Kem m anna Gud i In

Karnataka

10457 . SHRIH. C . SRIKANTAIAH: WIIIthe Minister of TOURISM be pleased to

(a) whetherGovernm ent are aware that

Kem mannaGudi inKam ataka is a verygoodtourist resort ;

(b) It so . whetherthere is any proposa l

underconsiderationofUnionGovernm ent to

provide“

cable car facilities at Kem manna

Gudi to boost tourism ;

(c) if so . the deta ils thereof; and

(d) whether Government would ap

prove schem es of private entrepreneurs in

this regard?



ANDMINISTEROF STATE INTHEMINISTRY OF TOURISM (SHRISATYA PAL

MALIK) : (a ) Yes . S ir.

(b) No . S ir.


(d) It is for the State Government to

exam ine such proposa ls as and whensub

m itted by private entrepreneurs .

Im ports of C apital Goods

10458. SHRIYASHWANTRAO PATIL:

WilltheMinisterof C OMMERC Ebe pleased

to state :

(a ) the im ports of capitalgoods during1989 -90as com pared to 1988

- 89; and

MAY 25. 1990

(b ) the reasons forthe increase. if any?

THE MINISTEROF STATE IN THEMINISTRY OF coMMERcE (SHRIAR

1988- 89 1989- 90

7081 .70

‘

Provis ional

(b) Th ere arem anycontrbutory factorslike imports fortechnologicalupgradationI

export production. inflation, fluctuation inforeignexchange rates etc. fortheIncrease.

Opening of Branches of Na initalAlm ora

Ks hatriya Gram inRank

10459. SHRIHARISH RAWAT: Wi lltheMinisterofFINANC Ebepleased to state:

(a) where Na inital Almora KshatriyaGram in Bank has applied foropening its

branches ; and

(b) if so . the names of the places and

the tim e bywh ich branches of the sa id Bank

are proposed to be opened?



TRI) : (a ) Reserve Bank of Ind ia (RBI) has

not received any request from Na initalAi

mora KshetriyaGram inBank forallotmentof

additionalcentres foropening branches .

(b) Two licences earlier issued to

NainitalAlmora Kshatriya Gram inBank for

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) Import of m i

tal goods during 1989-90'and 1908-89

‘

Is

as under:

1988-89

Export of Sugar

10460. SHRIHARIKEWAL PRASAD :

Wi lltheMinisterofCOMMERCEbepleased

to state the quantity of sugar likely to be

exported inthe current financial year?


MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRIAR

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : Likely exports of

sugar in the current financial year are as

follows :

MT

Th e above exports will be aga inst the

preferential quotas alloted by EEC andUSA

for India . In addition. exports of some

opening branches at centres Bhola and

Loharkhet inAlmora District are pending for

utilisa tion. As the bark could not open i s

branches at thecentres by313t March 1990

due to inadequate Infrastructure. the Re.

serveBank ofIndia has extended theva lidity

period of these licences upto September.

1990.

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quarxi ies are li tely to som e neighbouring

[Swi sh]

Export of Bas icDrugs and Finished

Medicines

10461 SHRIK. MANVENDRASINGH:

Wil theMinisterofCOMMERCEbepleased

1 ) d ub :

(a ) whethersam e facilities are be ing

provided for the export of bas icdrugs and

finished medicines ;

(b) if so . the reasons therefor; and

(0) whetherGovernm ent propose to

give m ore incentives forexport of finished

medicines?



ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) C ash C ompen

satory support (C C S) and import replenish

ment are among the faci lities granted for

export of bulk drugs and formulations . 008

at 1536 of fob value is adm issible onexport

of drugs excluding 27 item s inthe negative

list . C C S at 1596 is a‘so adm iss ible onall

drug formulations. including thosem enui se

tured out of the bulk drugs inthe negative

list .

Im port replenishm ent at the rateof 15%

of fob value of bulk drugs and at the rate of

2096 of fob value of formulations is adm is

sible aga inst exports .

(b) C C S is intended to com pensate

unrebated indirect tax com ponents . freight

disadvantageandm arketdevelopm entcostsontheexportproduct induemeasure. Import

replenishm ent provides inputs fore xport

porduction.

(c) No such proposal is underconsideration.


T.V. Serials/Feature Fi lm s Pend ing for

10462 . SHRI PRATAPRAO B .

BHOSALE: “fill the Ministero f INFORMATIONANDBROADCASTING be pleased to

( a ) whether a large num ber of T.V.

serials and feature film s are pendingwith his

Ministry forapproval;

(b) if so . thenam es of these serials and

feature films with specific reasons for

pendency ineach case;

(c) w hether Governm ent propose to

revise its existing norm s to accord approval

to pending T.V. serials and feature film s ;

(d) if so . the deta ils thereof; and

(e) thedetails of charges . if any. which

are required to be pa id by the producers of

T.V. serials?

(e) In accordance with the existing

procedures . anapplicant is not required to

pay anyprocessing fee forcons iderationof

his proposal.


ANDBROADCASTINGANDMINISTEROF


UPENDRA) : (a ) to (d) . The scheme forao

capl ing newproposals underSponsoredTV

serialswas suspendedwith effect form May

7. 1986 . Allproposals received by thatdate

have s ince beenprocessed and finalised.

As regards proposals fortelecast of feature

film s . received inlarge numbers . theirex

am inationis anong oing process . There is

no preposa lat present underthe cons idera

tionoftheGovernment tochange theproce

dure forscreening/selectionof the offers for

telecast of feature film s .


Rate of Savings

10463. SHRIS . C . VARMA: Will the

Ministerof FINANC E be pleased to state :

(a ) the rate of savings as a percentage

of Gross Dom est ic Product inIndia S ince

1980 as com pared to Japanand otherad

vanced countries ; and

(b) the efforts being m ade by Govern

m ent keeping theupward trend inthecostof

living inm ind. to stepupthe rate ofsaving for

mustering addit ionalresources fortheplans?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN TIIE

MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a) The requis ite data . as availableis

giveninthe Annexure.

(b) The rateof saving intheeconomyis

influenced by m any factors such as therateof interest. growth of real output and the

distributionof incom e inthe economy. Gov

em m ent’

s efforts are directed towards rais

ing the rate of savings providing incentives

for saving and discouraging unessential

consumptionand thereby mustering addi

tionalresources forthe plan.

WrittenAnswers MAY 25 . 1990

Transla tion]

TFAIFaci lities L ike Pregat i Ma idenIn

OtherC ities

10464. SHRISARJU PRASAD SA

ROJ : Will the Ministerof COMMERCE be

pleased to state:

(3) whetherthe Trade Fa irAuthority of

India (TFAI) propose to provide facilities like

thoseprovidedatPragat iMa idan.New Delhi

insom e othercities also ;

(b) if so. the deta ils thereof;

(c) whetherGovernm ent propose to

provide such facilities inUttarPradesh also ;

(d) it‘

so . when and where and the

am ount a llocated therefor; and

(e) if not. the reasons therefor?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEMINISTRY OF C OMMERC E ( SHRIAR

ANGILSREEDHARAN) : (a ) and (b) . Trade

Fa irAuthority of India a im s at organis ing

trade fa irs not only inDelh i but also inother

im portant cities and State capitals . Though

there are certa inproposals to develop exhi

bit ioninfrastructure inthe m etropolitancities

inthe country like Bom bay . no definite proiect has emerged .

(c) to (e) . In1987, the Govt. of Uttar

Pradesh requestedTFAIto prepare feas ibil

ity report for setting up of an exhibition

complex inLucknow. TFAIinform edGovt. of

U.P. about the term s of preparing such a

report . Inthe absence of a reply from Govt .

ofU.P. no furtherprogress has beenm ade

onthe proposal.

[English]

Specia lDuty Allowance inOffices of

North EasternReg ion

10465 . SHRIAJOYMUKHOPADHYAY:

Will the Ministerof FINANC Ebe pleased to

(b) if so . wh ich are those offices :

(c) if not . the reasons thereforan

time by which the orders are likely I

issued?

Res ident ial Flats TakenonLease

United Bank of India

10466 . SHRIB .N. REDDY : Wi

Ministerof FINANC E be pleased to st:

(a ) whetherthe United Bank of

has obta ined residential flats forthe i i

ployees onlease inDelh i . if so . the nu

of flats takenonlease as ondate;

(b) whether the Bank has renr

lease deeds onexpiry of lease agreem

(a ) whethernecessary Govern

orders have s ince beenissued forMof the Specialduty Allowance to allSo:

of the C entralGovernmentEm ployees

ing indifferentofficesofNorthEasternR

with retrospect ive effect inaccordancr

provis ions of Governm ent of India

dated f4th Decem ber. 1983;

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN

MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANILS

TRI) : (a ) to (c) . In accordance witl

GovernmentofIndia orderdated 1

Special (Duty) Allowance has beenallto C entralGovernm ent Civilianem plojas an incentive to attract and reta ir

services of com petent officers inthe

Eastern.

Reg ion. These orders are 1

cable to allthose C entralGovernment

ianemployees who have AllIndia Tra

Liability and are posted to North Ea

Reg ion. Therefore, there is no need for

ing a separate order inrespect of C r

Govt. employees having All India Tra

Liability and.

working in North Ea

Reg ion. However. Invery few except

cases . the condit ionof All India Tra

Liabilitywas relaxed inpublic interest .

157 WrittenAnswers

(c) the numberof cases where land

brds refused to accept the renewed lease

agreements during 1989 and 1990 (so far) ;

(d) whetherthe Bank has vacated the

premises Incase landlords didnot agree to

accept the new lease agreem ents and re

quested for vacationof flats ;

(e) if not. the reasons therefor; and

(I) the action. if any. proposed to be

fi rm by Gori em m ent Is th is regard?


MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a) United Bank of India has reportedflist

'

nhas taken1 15 flats onlease inDelh i forisemployees as ondata .

(b) It is the endeavourof the Bank to

oetlheleasedeeds renewed ontheirexpiry.

(c) According to Bank. landlords haverefusedto accept the renewed lease agree

ments in33cases during 1989and 1990(sofar):

(If) to (f) . Th e Bank has reported that ithasvacated 30flats so far aftertaking into

account the genuine difficulties of the land

bids. Inthe rem a ining cases the Bank has

notbeenable to m ake alternative arrange

ments and is also not convinced about the

genuineness of thedem and of the landlords

bf vacation.

Acquis itionof prem ises onleese/rents ibasis, renewalof lease deeds and vacation

ofprem ises arem atters of day to dayopera

tions of the Banks and decis ions in this

regard are takerLby banks them selves on

commercialcons iderat ions . Government do

not interfere insuch dayto dayOperations of

the Banks .


Oeri ceselonal Rate of C ustom s duty to

t uetanPhoto film s ManufacturingC om pany Ltd.

10467. SHRIP.G . NARAYANAN: Will

theMinisterof FINANC Ebepleasedto state:

(b) whether the sam e m ethod was

adopted Ingranting concess ional rate of

customs duty to private sectorunits ; and

(c) If not . the reasons therefor?

Loans Sanct ioned by Delh i Financia l

C orporation

10468. SHRIM.S . PAL:WilltheMinis

terof FINANC E be pleased to state:

(a) whetherconcess ional rate of cus

tom s duty was granted around 1982 on

wards to HindustanPhoto Film s Mfg . C o.

Ltd. . only aftertak ing into considerationthe

Excise duty. Sales tax. convers ioncost and

large Investm ent made by Government In

theHindustanPhoto Film s Mfg . C o . Ltd for

expans ionprogram me forintegrated m anu

facture of allphoto- sens itised goods



TRI) : (a ) Presum ably the reference is to the

concess ional rates of custom s duty on im

portofphotosensitisedgoods . Initially. import

dutyconcesslonwas granted around 1976

forim port of colourjum bo film s forprocess

Ing Into colourcine film s . Import duty con

cess lons for im port of jumbo rolls of other

photosens itised goods were also extended

subsequentlyat various concess ionalrates .

The duty concess ions ava ilable underthe

relevant not ifications are not confined to

Hindustan Photo F ilm s Manufacturing

Company Lim ited and canbe ava iled of byany importerso long as he fulfils the condi

tions stipulated inthe relevant notifications .

(b) and (c) . In view of (a ) above. does

not arise .

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(a ) whetherthe Delh i Financial C orpo

rat ionhas ach ieved its targets forsanction

ing and disbursem ent of loans during 1989

90;

(b) if so . the num berof schem es for

setting upofnew industries sanctioned dur

ing the period; and

(c) if not. the reasons thereforand the

act ion proposed to be taken aga inst the

erring off icials?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E(SHRIANILSHAS

TRI) : (a ) to (c) . It has beenreported by Delhi

Financia l C orporat ion that the targets for

sanct ions during 1989- 90 were ach ieved

and a total num ber of 561 schem es were

sanct ioned for sett ing up new industries .

However. targets fordisbursem ents during

the sa id period could not be achieved as

there had beendelays insanctioning of loan

applicationsduring the first S ixmonthswh ich

adversely affected the loandisbursements .

Further. disbursem ents of loans were also

delayed insom e cases inthe disbursem ent

departm ent . The corporat ion has already

init iated departm entalactionaga inst anoffi

cerand has reported that it is also contem

plating suitable actionaga inst certa inother

off icials .

Part lclpatlonby DoordarshanInInter

nat iona l T.V. Producers Market In1990

10469. SHRIPRAKASHV. PATIL:Will

theMinisterof INFORMATIONANDBROAD

CASTING be pleased to state:

(a ) whetherDoordarshanparticipated

ininternationalT.V. producers m arket 1990

at C annes betweenApril 20th and 2sth ;

(b) if so . the Indianmovies thatwereon

display there

(c) the benefits thatDoordarshangained

out of this ; and

MAY 5 . 1990

(d) whetherthere were any of

ourfilm s and if so . the deta ils thorar

Ti-IE MINISTER OF INFORM

ANDBROADC ASTING ANDMINIST

PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (S i

UPENDRA) : (a ) Yes. S ir.

[Transla tion]

Sa le of Englis h and Hind i Mega:

Published by Publicat ionDIvII

10470. SHRIR. S . PRASAD: I

Ministerof INFORMATION AND Bl

CASTING be pleased to state:

(a) the present sale of each

English and Hindi Magaz ines and r

ca ls etc. published by Publicat ion

and s incewheneach of these is beir

lished

(b) the names of the m agaz in

periodicals etc the publicationand I

tionofwhich has beensuspendeddui

(b) The Festival serves as a m

po int for buyers and sellers of T.

’

gramm es. Doordarshanaccordingly

pated inth is Fest iva lto promote the

its ownprogram mes . Inall. 22 teIe - fil

full length feature film s produced by

darshan. both ln- house and bycomu

ing outs ide Directors . were at diS |

Doordarshan- India stallsetup at the

(c) and (d) . C ontracts for SUI

program m es , including two film s“0

'Marattam

'. to the tune ofUS 5 26 .0C

executed at C annes itself. Addit ional

for supply of program m es valued a

have beenreceived . AS a ri

the m arketing effort of Doordarshan’

at the Festival. m any foreignbuyer

im pressed and a steadyflowof trade

ies continue to be received .


last three years and the reasons therefor

( c) the arrangements . 0any. proposedw homade forresumptionofpublicationand

s alt thereof?



PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI. P.

UPENDRA) : (a ) Astatem ent is givenbelow.


(b )“Indianand Foreign Review

’was

earlierbrought out by Pib lications Division

on behalf of Ministry of External Affairs .

S ince June’

88. the m agaz ine is brought out

by Ministry of ExternalAffa irs undera new

nam e"

India Perspective"


Reform s

10471 SHRISHED SHARANVARMA:

Vii !theMinisterof LAWAND JUSTICE be

pleased to state :

(a) whetherthe h igh levelComm ittee

corst'

tuted by Governm ent for electoral

reforms has g ivenits report ; and

(b) if so . the m a inrecom m endations

fliereof and the reaa ion of Governmentthereto?


ANDMINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE

(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) Yes . S ir.

(b) The m a inrecom m endat ions of theCommittee are givenbelow. These recom

mendations are present ly undercons idera

lionof theGovernm ent.

STATEMENT

“sinRecom m enda tions of the C om m itteeonElectoralReform s

The ElectionC om m iss ionto be a

three m emberbody . Th e appo int

ment of C h ief Election C om m is

sionerto be inconsultat ionwith the

C hiefJusticeofIndia andtheLeader

of the Oppos it ion. The C EC to be

consulted forappo intment ofother

Members .

2 Afresh delim itationonthe bas is of

1981 census . Rotat ionof sets re

served for Scheduled C astes .

Introductionof multi-purposephoto

identity cards .

4 No individualto be allowed to con

test from m ore thantwo constituen

cies .

5 .

10.

12 .

13.

WrittenAnswers 166

Non- serious cand idates to be dis

couraged. Securitydepos itof inde

pendent candidates to be raised .

Forfeiture of security deposit for

failure to secure less thant 14th of

the votes polled.

Statutory backing for important

provis ions of model C ode of C on

duct.

Use of electronic voting mach ines

inall future elections .

Aseries of leg islative m easures to

be undertakento eradicate booth

capturing . rigging and intim idation

of voters.

State funding inkind to a lim ited

extent to recognised political par

ties . to beginwith .

Plying of automobiles . carrying of

firearm s. sale and distributionof

liquor onpoll day to be electoral

offences .

C onstitutionof anExpert Com m it

tee to go furtherinto thequestionof

change of the present electoral

system .

A standing Com m ittee to the

Parliam ent to go into all electoral

D isqualification‘

underAnti-defec

tionlawtoberestricted to voluntary

res ignation and vot ing or absten

tionaga inst party wh ip only inthe

case of vote of confidence. money

billorvoteofthank to thePres ident.

Pres ident orGovernor to decide.

the Issue of disqualificationafter

obta ining the Election Comm is

s ion’

s opinion.

’

C om panies having C ollaborationwith

U.S .A.

10472 . SHRIE.S .M. PAKEER MO

HAMED: Wi ll the Ministerof FINANCE be

pleased to state:

(a) thedetails of thecompanies havingcollaborat ionwith theUSA indifferent fields ;

(b ) the totalpart icipationofUS Compa

(c) whetherGovernm ent havereceived

proposals from thesecompanies forincreas

Ing the trading lim its; and

(d) i so . the actionGovernm ent pro

pose to take onthese applications?


MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a) and (b) . During 1981 to 1989 .1376

foreigncollaborations were approved be

tweenlndlanandU.S . Companies involvingtotal lnvestrnent of Rs . lakhs .

(c) and (d) . Trading lim it have been

knposed only oncom panies having more

than4096 non- resident Interest . Govt . receives requests forperm iss ion for h igher

trading lim its periodicaly from such compa

nies . A h ighertrading lim it is perm itted on

case to case to bas is inthe light of relevant

factors. e.g. ancillarizatlon. m arketing of

products manufactured by Public Sector

Undertdrings, and exports etc.

Opening of Reg ionalRuralBanks In

Tam ilNadu

1047s. SHRIANBARASUERA: wartheMlnlsterofFlNANC Ebepleasedtostate:

(a) the numberof regionalruralbanks

MAY 5 . 1990

opened inTam ilNadudurh g 1988-G

1989- 90

(b) whetherGovernment propr

openmore regionalruralbanks inthe

during 1990- 91 ; and

(c) i so . the deta ils thereof?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER N

MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANIL!

TRI) : (a ) No RegionalRuralBank has

opened InTam ilNaduduring 1988- 8

1989- 90.

(b) and (c) . Th ere Is no propc

present to open any new Regional

Bank inTam ilNaduduring 1990- 91 .

Setting up of a Cnh PowerTuneraf Pavegedh Hill InPanchm ahr

SHRI SHANKER

VAGHELA:

SHRIHARINPATHAK:

SHRIN.J . RATHVA:

10474.

WilltheMinisterofNFORMATTOI

BROADCASTING be pleased to statr

(a ) whether State Govem mr

Gujarat had sent a proposalforestabla h igh powertransm itterat Pavagadf

Panchmahaldistrict as theexisting low

transm itterIs not covering the adjacI

ees ; and

(b) lf so. the t im ebywh ich a highl

transm itteris li tely to be set up so tha

areas of th is regionwould be coverer

THE MINISTER OF INFORMI

ANDBROADC ASTING’

ANDMINIS'IT

PARLIAAE NTARY AFFAIRS (SHl

UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b) . Arequest fort

Ishment of add tlonal TV transm ltt

Gujarat State Includi ig Panchmahalr

WnttenAnswers

Demand ForSecond C ti anne y Orlaea

10476 . SHRIANADICHARAN DAS :

Wi l the Minister of INFORMATION AND

BROADC ASTING be pleased to state

(a) whetherStateGovem mentofOrissa

ha s made a dem and forsecond channelof

te levisionto telecast program mes inOrissa ;

(b) if so . the actiontakenby Govern

m ent to m eet th is dem and?


A NDBROADC ASTINGANDMINISTEROF

P ARLIAMENTARY. AFFAIRS (SHRI P.

UPENDRA) : (a ) Yes . Sir.

(b) It has beendecided. inprinciple. to

introduce Second C hannelTVService In16

additional cities . including Bhubaneshwar

(C uttack) . underthe Eighth Plan. subject toavailability of funds .

Preposa l ForC onduct ing Program mesi tSecond C hannel onT.V. and A.I.R. by

PrivateAgency

10477 . SHRIA.R. ANTULAY: WilltheMinisterof INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

(a) whether Governm ent have any

Proposal to conduct certa inprogram m es in

thesecond channelof T.V. as also inA.I.R.

entirelyby private agencies ; and

(b) if so . the deta ils thereof?

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATIONANDBROADC ASTINGANDMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P .

No , S ir.

(b) Does not arise.

JYAISTHA4. 1912 (SAKA) WrittenAnswers

Opening Balance of Item s Kept forSale

hi C ustoms House RetailShops

10478. SHRIRAM SAGAR (Sa idpur)WilltheMinisterof FINANCE be pleased toreferto the reply givenon3oth March . 1990

to Unstarred QuestionNo . 2947 regarding

sale of confiscated sarees and state:

(a ) whetherGovem m ent propose to

display daily the pending balance of the

Items kept forsale inAll C ustoms House

retail shops ; and

(b ) If not. the reasons therefor?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER N THE

MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANII. SHAS

TRI) : (a) and (b) . The feasb llityofdisplayingda ily the opening balance of the item s kept

forsa le inallCustom s House reta il shops isunderexam ination.

[Transla tion]

C hildren's Programmss InHindi

10479 . SHRIMOHAN LAL JHIKRAM:

Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND

BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

(a ) whether Government propose to

telecast ch ildren's program m e like

'/ M icky

Mouse'InHindi also .

(b) if so. the deta ils thereof; and

(c) if not . the reasons therefor?



PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P .

UPENDRA) : (a ) to (c) . Such program m es

are at present acquired by Doordarshan

m a inly from international sources as the

requis ite facilities and specialised expertise

needed fortheir indigenous productionarescarce. It is . nevertheless . the endeavourof

MAY 5 . 1990

Doordarshanto promotes the productionof

these program mes with inthe country.

Plans Made by State Tourism Develop

ment C orporations to Prom ote Tourism

10480. SHRI GUMAN MAL

LODHA: Wi llthe Ministerof TOURISM be

pleased to state :

(a ) whether there IS any proposa l to

illum inate h istorica lmonum ents to promote

tourism during 1990- 91 ;

(b) whethertheStateTourism Developm ent C orporation has sent such plans to

unionGovernm ent forfinancial assistance

and approval; and

(c) if so. the State-wise deta ils thereof

and act ionbeing takenthereon?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEMINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS

ANDMINISTEROFSTATE INTHEMINIS


MALIK) : (a ) to (c) . The developm ent of

tourism is prim arily the responsibility of the

State Governm ents Union Territories .

HowevertheCentra lDepartmentofTourism

provides financia l ass istance to the State

Governm ents/UnionTerritories forstrength

oning tourism infrastructure incountry ln

cluding floadlighting ofmonuments of tourist

im portance . Th is financial ass istance is

cons idered bases onthe specific proposa ls

of the State Governm ent/UnionTerritories .theirm erit. inter- so priorities and ava ilability

of funds .

[Translation]

Sem inaronAutonom y forElectronic

10481 . SHRIMADHAVRAO SC INDIA:



(a ) whethera sem inaronauto

electronic media was held at Hydr

the secondweek of January this Y

(b ) If so . the ma inobservat

suggestions made therein; and

(c) Governm ent's reactionthr

THE MINISTER OF INFOR

ANDBROADC ASTING ANDMINI!PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS ( i

UPENDRA) : (a ) A colloquium oi

Bharatl Bill has been held by P

Instituteof Development Studies er

Institute of Management and C om

Hyderabad on . 1990.

(b) The g ist of conclus ions an

m andationsm adeat th is C o lloquiur

(c) Th e suggest ions made hr

cons ideredwh ile finalis ing arrange

thePrasarBharatlBillwhlch hasbeer

forconsidera tionof this House.

STATEMENT

Made onThe C olloquium Hel

1990

The colloquium welcom e

flative takenby theGovernm ei

autonomy to the electronic m t

expressed appreciationof the

inwhich the draft bill has bee

before the public for debate

making suggestions forIm prc

The colloquium noted with sat

the intentionbeh ind the estab

of the Corporation m antione

Statem ent of objects and Ree

tached to theBill. Th ecolloquii

WrittenAnswers

them various oonoess ionslrs iaxations in

credit facilities .

NRis Export Oriented Units

10483. SPIRIVAMANRAO MAI-iADlK :IMIIthe Ministerof FINANC Ebe pleased to

(a ) whetherNon- Res ident.

Ind ians had

applied forvarious Export Oriented/Import

substitute lndustrialUnitswith equitypart ici

petion;

(b) .the criteria or specified lim its of

investment by NRI; and

(c) the investm ents m ade by NRls

during the last two years?

TI-IE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE

MINlSTRYOFFINANC E(SHRIANILSHAS

TRI) : (a ) Yes S ir.

(b) NRIinvestm ents Inbank depos its

areperm itted to individualsundertheFC NR/

MRESchem es freely. Non- repa irable invest

m ents are allowed inmostcases upto 10096.

The levels perm itted on repatriable bas is

generally depend upon the priority of theactivity and m erits of the case.

MAY 25 . 1990

There is a lim i tef596forPortfolio

ments . Direct investments inindustn

tures is perm iss ibleundervarious sci

including the 7496and 4096 Schem a

(c) The totalinvestm ents m adeI

Res ident Indians as on .90 inin

of bank depos its amounted to nes

crores, cumulatively.

Transla tion]

Vacant Posts of scusrs inNatl

ised Banks

10484. SHRIK.D. SULTANPU

theMinisterof FINANCEbe pleased

thecategory-wise.num berofposts rs

forpeople belonging to Scheduled 1

Scheduled Tribes lying vacant inet

tiona lised bank forthe last three yet

THE DEPUTY MINISTER ii

MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANIL

TRI) : (a ) The backlog in recruitn

respect of posts reserved for Sch

C aste/ScheduledTribe. as at the on

years 1987. 1988 and 1989 as repo

the 20nat ionalised banks is givenb

M ienAnswers MAY 25. 1990 M ienAnsw

(b) and (c) . inalum inium sell-sufficiencyhas beenach ieved with NALC O going into

production. HC L has com m iss ioned a C on

tinuous Cast C opperRod Plant at Taioja .

Maharashtra; with an installed capacity of

tonnes perannum . wh ich will sub

stantially m eet the dem and for such wire

rods inthecountry. Detailed explorationand

feasb ility study forintegrated development

of Maianjkhand Copper Project. Madhya

Pradesh hascommenced. Asim ilarstudyon

S inghbhum C opperBelt . (Bihar) has been

completed. AnewIntegratedProject is beingimplem entedbyHindustanc L im itednear

C h ittorgarh inRajasthanwith a capaclty to

produce tonnes z inc and

b ones leadannually to meet the-

dem andof

Z inc and Lead to a very substantial extent

indigenously.

Excise Duty Evas ionby Manufacturers

of SanitaryWares and Bath Soaps10487. SHRIRAMDAS SINGH: Will

theMinisterofFNANC Ebepleasedto state:

(b) if so . thedeta ils of such m i

ers and the actiontakenaga inst t

THE DEPUTY MINISTER

MINISTRY OF FINANC E (S i

SHASTRI) : (a) Yes . S ir.

(a) whethera num berof cas

slon of Excise Duty by m anufa l

SanitaryWares and Bath Som e I

detected during the last three yea

(b ) Show cause notices dr

C entral Excise duty of Rs . 307.

have beenissued in25 cases a |

manufacturers listedbelow. Out r

14cases CentralExciseduty”

am

Rs . lak hs has beenconfi l

penalty of Rs .

’

lakhs has

WrittenAnswers

Use of Photocopyh g Mach ines

10488. SHRIMADANLAL KHURANA

Wi lltheMinisterof FINANCEbe pleased to

(a ) whetherGovernment areawarethat

with the Introduct ionof photocopying m a

chines inGovernment offices . evenvolum i

nous and lengthy notes. briefs. reports etc.

are being photocopied inlarge num berfor

circulation amongst large num berof per

sons instead of cutting stencils and cy

clostyling.

(b) whether it has resulted into heavyexpenditures ;

(c) if so . whetherthere Is any proposal

to issuedirections toGovernm entofficesnot

to use photocopying m ach ines forphoto

copying lengthy documents ; and

(d) if instructions exist. the reasons for

not ensuring compliance thereof together

withdeta ilsofactiontakentoenforcecompli

ance?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANii. SHAS

TRI) : (a ) No instance has come to thenotice

of the Govt. of india whereinvolum inous

documents are being photocopied forcircu

lationamong large numberof persons .

(b ) No Sir.

(c) and (d) . There are already instruc

tions for avoiding wasteful expenditure in

Governm ent of india wh ich . interalia. lay

downthat econom y should be ach ieved in

stationery as faras poss ible. inviewof this

no fresh instructions are cons idered neces

sary.

MAY 25. 1990

Applicat ions forC ustom s C isarah

Photographic Fi lm

10489. SHRISHANTILALPURUE

TAMDAS PATEL: Will the MinisterFORMATION AND BROADC ASTih

pleased to state:

(a ) the numberof applicat ions rel

during the last six months (upto 31st i

1990) forcustoms clearanceofphotogfilm s andthenum berofapplicationscil

State-wise break up; and

(b) thereasons fornon-clearance

rem aining applications?

THE MINISTER OF INFORM!

ANDBROADC ASTINGANDMINISTT

PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHI

UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b) . The inform s

being collected and willbe la id onthe

of the House.

Rehabilitat ionof Deep Sea Fish

10490. SHRIK. PRADHANI: i ll

Ministerof FINANCE be pleased to s

(a ) the numberof fishing units ir

sea sectorwho have subm itted rehr

tionproposals since J anuary

(b) whetherrepresentativesof the

ping C redit investm ent Com pany 0

Lim itedwerepresentduringdiscuss ior

entrepreneurs inthe early part of th is

and .

(c) the steps . If any. being tai

ensure propercompliance by the SC

rehabilitationpolicy ofGovernm ent ion

sea fish ing industry.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER lN

MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILE

TRI) : (a) Shipping Cred it and inves

MAY 25. 1990

respect of such irhports .

10493. SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA

MURTHY: Wi llthe Ministerof FINANCE be

pleased to state:

(a ) the deta ils of the concessions and

facilities that hadbeenoffered to traders and

entrepreneurs in Punjab by the Reserve

Bank of india and/orthe industrialDevelopm ent Bank of india ;

(b ) whether these concessions were

due to expire on31 March . 1990;

(c) whetherthese concessions to trad

ers and entrepreneurs inPunjab have beenfurtherextended ; and

(d) if so. the deta ils thereof?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER lN THE


TRI) : (a ) Reserve Bank of ind ia (RBI) has

reported that inorderto help the trade and

industry inPunjab to overcom e the difficulties experienced by them on account of

disturbedconditions intheState. banks have

been advised from tim e to time to grant

followingconcess ions/relaxations toborrow

ers inPunjab :

( i ) Adhoc increase inthe credit lim it

upto 5096subject to a ceiling ofRs .

20 lakhs by officials at branch!

controlling office level. Lim its in

excess of Rs . 20 lakhs to cleared

by higherauthorities .

( i i) Reduct ioninthe m arg inso that it

does not exceed 1596.

( i i i ) Extens ioninthe period of realise

tionof bills by 1 month .

( iv) Reschedulem ent of repayment of

tarm loaninstalments byex

period umo one year inda

(v) Reduction by 5096 in

charges on demand drs

ordem bankers chequa ar

rem ittances .

(vi) Higher bile discounting i

borrowers with in the over

m issb ie bark finance a

m arginprescribed onbiils i

industrial Developm ent Bank i

has also givenpreferential ti ssim i

liberalterrns tonewindustries inPunjconcess ions granted are as under:

As regards promoters cont

and DER. Inst itut ions m ay

flexible approach depend

merits of each case.

Product ionof Prim e Tiriplati

10494. Wi lltheMinisterofSTEE

MINES be pleased to state:

Under refinance Schem e .

tance would be available

industrial units com ing up

State of Punjab at a conce

rate of onthe loani i

nancefrom industrialDevei

Bank of India to the inst

being at the rate of 996 peri

(b) to (d) . The concess ions gral

bank to trade and industry inPunjal

expired on31st March . 1990 havi

extended upto 31stMarch . 1990. Th

ingconcessions grantedby industrial

opm entBankofIndia forindustries in

wh ich expired on31st March . 199

beenextended fora furtherperiod of

upto 31st March . 1992 .

221 Wri tenAnswers

(a) whether the total indigenous pro

ductionof prim e tinplate decreased during

die last financia lyear;

(b ) if so . the reasons thereof and how

far it is short of the totaldemand;

(c) the estim ated quantity of tin-plate

usedforfood-

packaging andnon- foodpack

ning purposes Inthe country annually;

(d) whethertinmanufactures particulartyInthe sm allscale sectorare producingwaste and secondary grade tinplate; and

(a) if so . the stepsGovernmentpropose

t i take to increaset he indigenous produc

tionof prim ary tinplate and banthe produc

tionand use ofwaste tirp late forfood peck

who?

THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINESANDMINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE

(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ).

Yes . S ir.

(b) Severalfactors have contrbuted tothe decrease of indigenous productionof

tinplate inthe last financial year: These ln

Glide h igherlanded cost of TinMill Bled :

plate (TMBP) . increase Indirect import of

Prim e tinplate and also tirp late waste

Waste.andcompetitionfrom othermaterials

need inthepackaging Industries likeplastic.Pa per. Card boards etc. The gap betwesn

h d igenous productionand total assessed“O mani!In1989- 90Is about lakh tonnes .

(c) Authenticpublished data onquanfit y oi tim iete used iorfood-

packaging and

“on-b od packaging Inthe country are not

(d) Tim ists b not m anufactured IntheS m all scale sector. Tinplatewaste and secQ sidarygrade tinplate arenot produced. butn'\ssa are arisings durlrig the procass of


(a) More units are being penni ted b

produce TinPlates . No banonuu of dn

plates waste waste for food-packagh'ig b

advisable unless there are good grounds I:

do so .

Developm ent of indianFishery Indud ry

10495 . PROF. P.J . KURIEN: wa steMinisterof C OMMERC Ebepieasedb std e:

(a ) thedeta ilsofSchem es Implemented

bytheMarineProductsExport DevelopmentAuthority forthe development of indianfish

ery industry;

(b) whetherthe Schemes forbuildingfrozenstorage refrigerated trucks havebeen

discont inued ; and

(c) If so. the reasons thereof and thefinancial loss incurred by Governmentthereon?

Schem es forTechnology-upg a

dationand value- addition

Schem es for product devebp"IBM ;

(III) Schem e of equity participd ion

by the MPEDA in projects for

promoting va iue addedproducts

and deep sea fishing ;

( iv) Schem es for upgradation and

quality control of seafood proc

essing Units ;

THE MINISTER OF STATE lN THE


ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a) The SchemesIm plemented by Marina Products Export

Development Authority (MPEDA) for thedevelopm ent of ind ianFishery industry In

cludez

WrittenAnswers MAY 25. 1990

farm ing and setting up prawn

hatcheries for supply of seeds

and;

(vi) Part icipat ion in Specia lised

C om modity Fa irs abroad. pub

licity program mes abroad and

organis ing Buyer- SellerMeets .

(b) Yes.sir.

(c) These Schem es were initiatedwith

the objective of being catalyst forencouraging private entrepreneurship Inthe m arine

export sectorthrough provis ionof bas ic in

frastructuralfaci lities . They were discontin

ued afterthis lim ited purposewas ach ieved.

These Schem es cannot be appropriately

assessed interm s of profit orloss .

Pi oposa i forFinancialRestructuring of

Scindia Steam Navigat ionC om pany

10496 . SHRISANAT KUMAR MAN

DAL : Will the Minister of FINANC E be

pleased to state:

(a ) whetherGovernm ent areconsider

ing a proposalforthe financialrestructuring

of the Scindia Steam NavigationC ompany

Lim ited ;

(b) if so . its broad features ; and

(c) Government's stake in the C om

pany?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER N THE

MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a ) and (b) . The Rehabilitat ionPro

posa l subm itted by the company is under

cons iderationof Shipping C redit 8 invest

ment C ompany of india Lim ited (SC lC l) .

(c) The total outstanding exposure of

the Governm ent of india through loans and

guarantees amounts to Rs . J 78 crores approxim ately as onMarch 31 . 1990.

Export of S ince -Manganese to J

10497. SHRIS . B. THORAT:

Ministerof STEELANDMINES be ;to state:

(a) whether Governm ent are

about thecompla ints received regard

quality of mmaria is of s ilico-m ani

suppliedby Maharashtra Elw rosm i

lied to Japanfrom Visakhapatnam ;

(b) if so. the details thereof; an

(c) the actiontakenagainst the

found guilty?

Th is payment b the Japanes i

was unavoidable as otherwise MEL

THEMINISTEROFSTEELAND

AND THE MINISTER OF LAW ANI

TIC E (SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : l

(b) . Yes . S ir. Maharashtra Electi

Li m ited (MEL) had exported silico i

nose inthe last quarterof 1988- 89 a

quarterof 1989- 90 to Malaysia and

The 2ndshipment was as percontrtweenM/s . C ot ia international. cor

Toyo Denka Kogyo C o . Ltd. . Japi

MEL. Although the material in C i

com pos itionwas withinthe specific

M/S . C OTIA compla ined that it col

overs ize. The indianagency MIS . 86

Pvt. Ltd. who has beenappointed or

agreementbetweenMIS . Cotia interr

andMEL had cleared the materialbe

theirsampling tests at Vizag.

As itwas cons idered that itwouli

inthe com m ercial interest of MEL 1

quality com plaint from Japanese bu

team of two SeniorOfficers fromMEL

Japanand afterinspectionof the m a

MOUwas s igned forcompensat ion

penses to Japanese party forscreen

material and realis ing some of the 0

m ateria l.

WrittenAnswers

(d) whetherth is fest ivalwould be held

inC alcutta at least once a year. whenthis

city. once the cultura l centre of the film

industry . has got the necessary infrastruc

ture forth is purpose; and





Yes . S ir. The Government

has now takenthedecis ionto hold the inter

national Film Festival fordocum entary and

short film s once inevery two years orbien

nia lly.

(b) This decis ionwas taken inview of

the financialconstra ints of the 8i h FiveYear

Plan.

inaddition. it is felt that itwouldbebetter

to alternate this festivalwith the lntam ational

C hildren's Film Festival.

(c) The tentative expenditure forfesti

vals in1992 and 1994 is estim ated as Rs . 62

lakhs and Rs . 71 lakhs respect ively.

(d) The Governm ent has decided to

hold the fest ival biennia lly. Therefore the

quest ionof holding the Film Festival inC al

cutta at least once a yeardoes not arise.

However the question of holding the

Film Fest ival inCalcutta inrotat ionwill be

givendue cons iderationby the Ministry at

the appropriate tim e.

(e) Does not arise.

Nam e of the Schem e

1986- 87

MAY 25. 1990

[Translation]

Schem es of UC O Bank

10500. PROF . RASASINGHRAII

Willthe Ministerof FINANC E be pleas :

state:

(a) the investm ent m ade by the l

Bank indifferent Schem es during the

three years . schem e-wise ;

(b) thenumberofbranches of th is i

inRajasthan. district -wise;

(c) the depos its of this Bank inRs

hanand the amount of loans given ir

State during last three years ;

(d) the nam es of the schem es u

poverty a lleviat ionprogram m es being r

atedby theBank intheStateandthenur

of beneficiaries thereunderduring the

three years ;

(e) whetherGovernment have recs

compla ints about m ism anagem ent in

Bank; and

(i ) if so. the details thereof and

actionproposed to be takenbyGove‘

m i

inthis regard?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER lN

MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SI

TRI) : (a) UC O Bank has reported thatdi

the years 1986- 87. 1987-88 and 198

following investments hadbeenm ade b

bank indifferent schem es :

1987- 88 1988- 89


real the Sd ieme Am ount Sanctioned

1986-87 1987- 88 1988- 89

a of the Scheme

Mard i 87 Mard i 88 March 89

oint Program me 19688 29347

ker Sections 20186 24997 29771

(b) The total numberof branches of bark on31 were 135 . The district

lBank inRajasthanas reported by the wise pos itionIs indicated below:

Bharatpur

Jhunjhunu

C huru

WrittenAnswers MAY 25. 1990

Banner

Bikaner

Sriganganagar

Jodhpur

Bh ilwara

Nagaur

Uda ipur

Tota lNo .

(c) The deposits of the bank inRajast Stateduring the last three years as rep

hanand the amount of loans givenInthe by UC OBank are as under:

March 1987 March 1988 Ma i d ) 19!

Deposits 14642 19510 24364

Advances 7906 10727

(d) The num berr beneficiaries under the Poverty Alleviat ionProgram me in

MAY

Turn-Over inLT.

10502 . SHRIMULLAPPALLY RAMA

CHANDRAN: WilltheMinisterofTOURISM

be pleased to state :

(a) the total turnoverof india Tourism

Developm ent C orporationduring 1988 and

1989;

(b ) whetherthetum -overhas increased

during the last three years

(c) if so. the rate of increase; and

(d) theunits of ITOCwhich contributed

most to its profits during 1989-90?


MINlSTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRSANDMINISTEROF STATE lNTHEMINISTRY OF TOURISM (SHRISATYA PAL

MALIK) : (a) The total tumovarof "DC for

the last two years is givenbelow:

1988- 89

1

(b) Yes. S ir.

(c) The increase in turnover during

1989-90 (based onprovis ionalresults) over

the year1986- 87works out to

(d) AshokHotel. NewDelhi has earned

the highest profitofRs . lakhs (provi

s ional) during 1989- 90.

im port of DentalEquipment

10503. SHRIMULLAPPALLY RAMA

C HANDRAN: Wi ll the Minister of C OMMERCE be pleased to state:

Wrr’ttenAnewen

(a) whether Government propincrease import of dentalequipm ent

the current year;

(b) if so. the reasons therefor;

(c) whetherany study has beer

to assess the effects of increased

duties levied ondentalequbm ents ;

(d) if so. the findings thereof?

THE MINISTER OF STATE ii

MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (S i-i i

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) No , Sir.


(c) Custom s and Excise duty on

equpm ent have not been increasetrecent past . There is. therefore.no or

of any study by the Government tothe effects of increased taxes/duties

ondentalequipm ent .

(d) Does not arise.

Export ef Freg I-ep

10504. SHRIw LLAPPALLY l

C HANDRAN: Wil the Minister ofMERCE be pleased to si d e:

(a) whetherGovernmenthave re

any representationforlifting the ban

export of frog legs ;

(b ) ifso .Govem m ent’

sdecis ionti

(c) whenwas thebanfirst institui

the reasons therefor; and

(d) the percentage of frog iegs i

to total seafood exports before

planned?

THE MINISTER OF STATE ll

MINISTRY OF COMMERC E (S i-i i

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) and (b)

237 Wri tenAnawan JYAISTHA 4. 1912 (SAKA)

S'r. Tha banonexport of frog lags is stil In

bios;

(c) The banwas first imposed from 1stAii i i|. 1987onenvironm entalconsiderations.

(d) Thepercentageof frog- legs exportsb iota !seafoodexports ranged from in

1981- 8 2 to in 1986- 87 in term s of

quant i ty . before it was banned.

Ex p ort o fNon- C ana lised item s by

M C .

1 0 505 . SHRIMATI VASUNDHARARAJE : Wi llthe Ministerof C OMMERC E be

pleas e d to si d e:

( a ) whether the Minerals and MetalsTradin g Corporationhas a proposal to Ineroas e the export .of non-canalieed Item s

during 1990-91 ;

( b ) ii so. the target set forthat purposefor19 9 0- 91 financialyear;

Minerals

Agro products

industrialproducts

Diamonds/gem s

Merchanting trade

Projects

C ountertrade

(c) the steps taken b h ouses the

export; and

(d) the item -wise deta ils thereof?

THE MINISTER or STATE lN THE

MINISTRY OF commence (sum AR

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a) Yes . Sir.

(b ) The target set fornon-canalised

exports by MMTC for 1990-91 Is Rs. 550

crores .

Targets set fordilferentgroups byMMTC

forexportofnon-canalised item sduririg 1990

91 are as under:

(c) and (d) . MMTC has formedanum ber

ofnon-cana iised export groups . A separate

Divis ionhas beenconcentrat ing onexports

of engineering pro jects . MMTC has been

conducting m arket studies I) identify se

lected Item s forexport and Ident ifying reli

able domestic sources of supply to act as

associate suppliers of MMTC .

MAY

Tum -Overin

10502 . SHRIMULLAPPALLY RAMA

CHANDRAN: WilltheMinisterofTOURISM

be pleased to state:

(a) the total turnoverof ind ia Tourism

Development C orporationduring 1988 and

1989:

(b) whetherthetum -overhas increased

during the last three years ;

(c) if so. the rate of increase; and

(d) theunits of ITOC wh ich contributed

most to its prof its during 1989- 90?


MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRSANDMINISTEROF STATE lNTHEMINISTRY OF TOURISM (SHRISATYA PAL

MALIK) : (a ) The total turnoverof "DC for

the lad two years is givenbelow:

1986- 89 10616 69

118542 6

(b) Yes. S ir.

(c) The increase in turnover during

1989- 90 (based onprovis ionalresults) over

the year1986- 87works out to

(d) AshokHotel. NewDelhi has earned

the highest profitof Rs . lakhs (provi

s ional) during 1989- 90.

im port of Denta lEquipm ent

10503. SHRIMULLAPPALLY RAMA~

CHANDRAN: Wi ll the Minister of C OM

MERC E be pleased to state:

(a ) whether Government prop:

increase im port of dentalequipm ent I

the current year

(b) if so. the reasons therefor

(c) whetherany study has been

to assess the effects of increased

duties levied ondentalequipm ents ; s

(d) if so. the findings thereof?

THE MINISTER or STATE lN

MINISTRY or C OMMERCE (SHR

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) No . Sir.


(c) Custom s andExcise duty oni

equpm ent have not been increased

recent past. There is. therefore. no qu

of any study by the Government to a

the effects of increased taxes/duties

ondentalequipm ent.

(d) Does not arise.

C HANDRAN: Wil the Minister ci t

MERC E be pieasad to std e:

export of "00 l0o8 :

to totai

WrittenAnswers

tionavailable for the calendaryear 1988.data about spacedevoted to advertisem ents

was furnished by 354 da ilies . Out of these,

five da ilies devoted 60% and more of their

space to advert isem ent. 16 da ilies devoted

between50- 5996 . Space devoted to adyar

tisem entbyrem a ining333da ilieswas below

5096.

(b) There is no such proposalbefore

the Governm ent as th is will tantam ount to

infringem ent of the freedom of the Press . to

wh ich the Governm ent are deeply com m it

ted .

(c) No . S ir.

(d) Does not arise.

Export of Dress Materials

10510. SHRIK.S . RAO :WilltheMinisterof C OMMERC E be pleased to state:

(a ) whetherGovernm ent have benned

exports of dress m aterials . ready- m ade

garm ents. fabrics and textileItem s onwhich

excerpts of verses ofQuaranare im printed ;

(b ) if so. the reasons therefor;

(c) whetherExport’C ontro iOrderto that

effed has beenam ended; and




ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) Yes . S ir.

(b) A mus iirn organisation. nam ely.

Anjum anAhle is iam hadrepresentedaga instthe export of dress materials! garm ents and

other fabrics! textile item s conta ining im

prints of excerpts from the Holy Ouaran

because they hurt the religious sentiments

of the Muslim s .

MAY 25. 1990

(c) Yes . Sir.

(d) An Export (Control) Amendment

order No. E(C ) AM (49) read Iii'tfi

public Notice No. 26 - ETC (PN) 190both

dated 16-3- 1990have beenissued. Further.at the time of announcem ent of imports a

Exports Policy. 1990.- 93 anExport

Trade C ontrol Order No .E(C )

(50) di . has beenissued.

Sickness inSS ISed er

105 1 1 . SHRI PRAKASH KOKO

BRAHMBATT:WilltheMinisterof FINANCE

be pleased to state:

(a).

whethera high level standing advi

sory com m ittee sat up to review the flowof

Institutionalcredit to the sm all scale indus

tries sad orand otherrelated m atters has

expressed concernoverthe ris ing trend in

s ickness Inthe SSIsector;

(b) if so. the m a inrecom m endations

m ade by the Com m ittee; and

(c) the steps being takento checkIi"

rise insickness inthe SSIsector?


MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS'

TRI) : InApril. 1986 . Reserve Bank

of india (RBI) had constituted a Standing

Advisory Com m ittee under the C ha irmfl“

ship of Dy. Governorto review the flow

institutional credit to Sm all Scale Indoor"

(SSI) Sed erandotherrelatedm atters andW

suggest measures for improving the pO‘

form ance of the C redit Delivery System i i

securing increased ass istance to th is sed O’

RBIhas inform ed that thecom m ittee m ed”

periodically and its s ixth meeting was held

on21st April. 1990. in th is m eeting . Walia . the ris ing trend ins ickness Inthe 55

,

sectorwas noted by the C om m ittee we”

concern.

WrittenAnswers

RBIhas issued guidelines to alleched

u le dcom m ercialbanks forrehabilitationof

p d entiailyviables ickSSIunits . Theseguide

li n esemphas ise theneed forearlydetection

o f incipient s ickness and fortaking rem edia l

m easures intim e. RBIhave also laid down

th e viability norm s and parameters forpro

v i d ing relief/concessions to potentially vi

ab lesick SSIunits .

lDBIhas a lso formulated a refinance

scheme for extending rehabilitationass is

tance to s ick sm all sca le industrial units

through banks and State levelfinancial insti

tuilons . The National Equity Fund Schem elaunched by iDBl in 1987 also provides

equity type of support for rehabilitationof

potentially viables ick units intheSSIsector.elig ible underthe schem e.

SuperZ inc Sm elterPlant

105 12 . SHRI GULAB C HANDKATARIA: Will the Ministerof STEEL ANDMINES be pleased to state:

(a)whenthework onSuperZ incSm elterPla nnearC hittorgarh is likely to com mercea“<1 whenit will start production;

(b) whether local people will be prefen-

9 d inemployment there; and

(c) if so. the deta ils thereof and if not."19 reasons therefor?

THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINESAND MINISTER or LAW AND JUSTICE(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a) Work on“0 SmelteronHindustanZinc Lim itednearC h ittorgarh. com menced inApril. 1989. it isIil‘Q ly to start productionforJune. 1991

(b) and (c) . Workm anare employedth rough the District Employment Exchange.a“bled to suitability. if candidates spon80 ndby theEmploym entExchange arenot

nd suitable for the job. recruitment is


done through openadvert isem ent .

Mopping up of Household Sector

Savings

10513. SHRIJ . C HOKKARAO :Wi lltheMinisterof FINANC E be pleased to state:

(a ).

the additional m easures Govern

m ent propose to evolve formapping up the

savings inthe household sector; and

(b) the expected am ount of savings in

1990- 91

(b) The net coiiad ions underthe vari

ousSm allSavings Schemes during 1990- 91

are est im ated at Rs . crores.

[Translation]

Export of Foodgra ins

10514. SHRIHARIBHAUSHANKAR

MAHALE:Willthe Ministerof C OMMERCE

be pleased to d ate:

(a) thenamesof foodgrainslpulsesbeingexported at present;

(b) the nam es of countries to which


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANlLSHAS

TRi) : (a) Sm all Savings Schem es adm ini

stered by the Governm ent are undercon

stant review and whenever need arises

changes arecarried outwith a view to m axi

m iss the collections .

Bes ides. Governm ent propose to ex

tend the Deposit Scheme forRetiring Gov

ernment Employees . 1989 to the Retiring

EmployeesofPublicSectorcompanies . The

lim it of depos its underthe NationalSavings

Scheme 1987 is also proposed to be in

creased from Rs . to Rs ina

year.

Writ tenAnswers MAY

these com modities are being exported;

(c) the totalvalue of foodgrains/pulsesexported last year;

(d) the target fixed for the export of

these item s during the current year; and

(e) the steps being takenby Govern

m ent to increase these exports?



ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) and (b) .

Foodgra insperm itted forexportarebasm ati

rice. allowed underOGL. and non-basd

rice. wheat. bajra . jowar. ragi and barleyallowed subject to annualceiling fixedbythegovernmentdependinguponthe ava ilability

of exportsurplus etc. Bulk of these items are

exportedto theMiddleEastcountries . USSR.

UK and USA.

Export ofpulses isnot perm itted except

incase ofprocessed pulses m adeout of the

pulses im ported undertheAdvance Licens

ing Schem e. Pass Book orby anapproved

100percent export orientedunit.

(c) The total value of foodgra ins ex

ported during the year1989- 90 is estim ated

at Rs . 427 crores .

(d) and (a) . No targets havebeenfixed

Numberof applications/

proposals received.

Numberof applications

approval

NRIinvestments :

a ) Repatriationbas is .

Drop h Proposa is from NRi

rests. SHRIMATI

.

BASAVA RAJE

WARi i Will the Minister of FINANCE l

pleased to state:

(a) whetherthere has beena drop int l

number of proposals received from no

res ident indianduring 1989;

(b )‘

l so . the extent thereof and t f

reasons therefor; and’

(c) the num berof proposals approve

byGovernment so far?

forexport of foodgra ins . as- export of

'

item

under lim ited ceiling depends upon est

m ated production. consumption and sun

pluses . as well as theirprice competitive

ness. With in'

these lim itations . efforts or

made to encourage exports by tackin

operationalconstra ints .

THE DEPUTY MINISTER lN TH

MINISTRYOF FINANC E(SHRIANILS HA!

TRI) : (a ) to (c) . The following statem e

shows the num berof applications receive

from NRis . proposals approved by the D

perimont of IndustrialDevelopm ent (Seen

tariat forIndustrial Approval) and the Ni

Investment proposed:

WrittenAnswers

(a ) whetherGovernm ent are aware of

the increas ing incidents ofdrug trafficking in

Bihar; and

(b) if so . the effective steps being taken

to check th is tendency?



TRI) : (a ) and (b) . Inform ationavailablewith

the Narcot ics C ontrolBureaurelating to the

quantities ofvarious drugs seizedinBihardo

not indica te any increase in incidence of

drug traffick ing Inthat State. However. in

viewof its proxim ity'

toNepal. Biharis vulner

able to traffick ing of drugs . particularly.hashish and ganja . Ourenforcement agen

cies rem ainalert to prevent drug trafficking .

A zonal office of the Narcotics C ontrol Bu

reau has also been set up at Varanasi .

coveringBiharam ongotherStates . tomonitor

the drug traffick ing s ituationinthe area and

to coordinate with the concerned State on

forcem ent agencies forappropriate action.

Task Force forDistribut ionof ironand

Steel

10519. SHRIK.S . RAO :Willthe Minis

terof STEEL AND MINES be pleased to

(a ) whetherthe task - forceappointedbyGovernm ent to review the guidelines and

suggest modifications fordistribut ionof iron

and steel has subm itted Its report;

(b ) ifso .what are its recom mendations ;

(c) the steps proposed to be takenbyGovernment to im plementtheserecom m en

dations?



(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a) to (c) . Th e

MAY 25. 1990

Guidelines forMerchant Banks

10520. SHRIK.S . RAO :Wiilthe

terof FINANC E be pleased to state :

(a).

whether the Securities an

change Board of india has recemly I1

guidelines forthe merchant bankers ;

(b) if so . the deta ils of the guidel

(c) whetherthe sm all m erchant

ers have expressed their resentm en

the stipulations envisaged inthe guide

(d) if so. the deta ils thereof; and

(e) the steps contemplated to a‘

fears of the sm allm erchant bankers ?

.THE DEPUTY MINISTER lN

MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANILSTRI) : (a ) Th eGovernment have issui

guidelines formerchantbankers on9th

1990.

(b) A copy of the guidelines is

below.

Task Force inits report subm itted toGt

m ent sought to address certa in im p

issues such as priority class ificat ion.

pad group.bas is forfixationof ent itle

mode of supplies to the sm all sca le s

new and sick units etc and has give

om m endations onsom e of them . Th

port Is underexam ination.

(c) Th e guidelines have. by and

beenwellreceived. It is poss ible that

m erchant bankers m ay have rasarvi

about some aspects of the guidelines I

wouldregulatetheirad ivities .However.have reported that so farno sm allm ar

bankerhas expressed specially inwrit

verbally any resentm ent to them ovr

stipuid ion envism ed In the guide

JYAISTHA4. 1912 (SAKA) WrittenAnswers 254

sationcriteriawouldtake into accountm a inlythe following:

ld) and (e) . The quest iondoes not 8 ) Profess ionalcornpetence .

b) Personnel. their adequacy and

STATEAE NT quality. and other infrastructure .

c) C apitd adequacy.

d) Past trad record. experience.

general. reputationand fa irness in

Any personorbody propos ing to en ali theirtransact ions .

gags inthe business of merchant bankingwouldneed authorisationby the Securities

andExchange Boardof kidia (SEBI) Inthat

prescrbad form at. Th is wil also apply to

lim epresently engaged Inmerchant bank

ingactivity. including asManagers . ConsultantsorAdvisers to issue.

issue managem ent . which will ln

ter- a ils consist of preparation of b) Allmerchant bankers must have a

prosped us and other inform ation m inimum networthofRs . onecrore.

relating to the issue . determ iningfinancing strud ure. tie-upof finan

t c) The authorisationwill be for an

ciers and final allotment and/or Initialperiod of there years .

refund of the subscription.

d) SEBIm ay collect from the m er

5 )

0 )

d )

0)

C orpord e adviser services relat

ing to the issue.

Underwriting

Portfolio m anagem ent services .

Managers . C onsultants orAdvis

ers inthe issue.

Allm erchant bankers are expected to

Wi iorm with high d andards of integrity andIaIfi less Inall theirdea lings . Acode of con

duct iormerchant bankerswillbe prescribed

bySEBI. Withinth is context SEBI’

s authori

chant bankers aninitia l authorise

tionfee. anannual fee and a re

newalfee.

f) The specificrespons ibi lities of each

a ) Allm erchantbanners . including the

existing one must obtain the eu

thorisationfrom SEBIwith inthree

months from the issue of these

guidelines . SEBIm ay extend th is

period at its discret ionby a m aximum of three more months .

All issues should be m anagedby at

least one authorised m erchant

banker, functioning as the sole

m anager or the lead m anager.

Ordinarily. not more thentwo m er

chant bankers should be associ

ated as lead m anagers . advisers

and consultants to a public issue.

In issues of overRs . 100 crores .

the num bercould go upto a m axi

mum of four.

k)

MAY 25. 1990

leadm anager'mustbe subm itted to

SEBIpriorto the issue .

Wh ile D irectors . prom oters and

every personwho authoriseds the

issue of prospectus . sha llbearfull

respons ib ilityverifying thecontents

of the prospectus . m erchant bank

ers shall exercise due diligence

independently veryfying the con

tents of the prospectus and rea

sonableness of the views ex

pressed therein. The m erchant

bankers of the issue shallcertify to

this effect to SEBI.

To ensure a direct stake of m er

chant banker(s ) inthe issue m an

agedbythem . leadm anagerswould

be required to accept a m inimum

596 underwriting obligat ion in the

issue subject to a ceiling . Details in

th is regard will be prescribed by

SEBl.

Leadm anagers/m erchant banliers

would be respons ible forensuring

timely refunds and allotm ent of

securities to the investors .

The involvementofm erchantbank

ers inanissue should continue at

least tillthecom pletionof essent ial

follow- upsteps,wh ich must include

listing of the instrum ent. and

despatch of certificates . refunds .

Evenitm anyof these activities are

handled by other interm ediaries .

merchantbankers shallbe respon

s ible forensuring that these agen

cies fulfil theirfunctions . and must

enablethem selves todischargeth is

respons ibility through suitable

agreem ents with the issuercom

pany.

The m erchant banker shall m ake

available to SEBIsuch inform at ion.

docum ents . returns and reportsas

m ay be prescribed . and calledfor.

I) SEBIshallprepare and prescrboa

Code of C onduct for merchant

bankers wh ich they should adhereto .

State-wise C ontrlbut lonlnExports

1052 1 SHRI C HANDUBHAI

DESHMUKl-l: Will the'

Minister of GOM

MERCE be pleased to state : 1

(a) whetherh is Ministry has assessed

the contributionof each State and Union

Territory inthe totalexports from lndiaduriflflthe last one year;

(b) if so. the deta ils thereof; and

(c) if not . whetherany steps have bfi"takentocom pile such data to helptheStd

”

to take suitable measures to increase th‘“

share?

THE mmsrenOF STATE IN 11 4E

mmsm v or: commence (srrrrrANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a) and (b) .State-wise export figure are not co

0)

SEBI m ay suspend/cancel the

authorisationof m erchant bankers

for suitable durations incase of

violationsoftheGuidelines.Allsudr

cases willbe brought to thenotice

of C C l. Relevant willbe brouglrtto

the notice of C C I. Relevant details

inth is regardwould beworkedout

by SEBI.

Noth ing inthese guidelines shall

exem pt the com pany. its function

aries, orotherfrom any responsi

bility placed onthem by any exist

ing law. regulation. guidelines or

conditions im posed with any sanc

tion.

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13.

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17.

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23.

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Aurangabad

Parabhani

Nanded

Osm anabad

Buldana

Akola

Am ravati

Yavatm al

Wardha

Nagpur

Bhandara

Chandrapur

MAY 25. 1990

Mm beroi TV transt gm

Wri tenAnswers

The districts of Raigarh and Thane are

covered by the High PowerTransm itterat

Bombay .

Publicat ionof DelIyM eeltty Newape

pers from Mahareehtre

15 23. SHRIHARBHAUSHANKAR

MAHALE: Will the Minister of INFORMAo

TD NANDBROADC ASTING bepieaaedb

JYAISTI

newspapers being published from Mahar

ashtra district-wise; and

(b) the quantity ofnewsprint allotted to

each of them during last three years . year

wise?

THE MINISTER or: INFORMATION


PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P

UPENDRA) : (a) (b ) . A statement ls

Probeh to UC O Benlt Affa irs

SHRI PRAKASH KOKO

BRAHMBHATT:

SHRIM.J . RATHVA:

10524.

WilltheMinisterof FINANC Ebepleasedto state:

(a ) whetherGovernment have ordereda probe into the State of affa irs inthe UC O

(b) if so . the deta ils thereof; and

(c) the tim e bywh ich the enquiry reportwillbe received?


MINISTRYOFFINANCE(SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a) No. S ir. No probe has beenordered

Into the state of affa irs of UC O Bank.

(b) and (c) . Do not arise.

Discret ionary Refinance to Banks10525 . SHRI PRAKASH KOKO

BRAHMBHATT:

SHRIM.J . RATHVA:

WilltheMinisterof FINANCEbepleased

to state:

(a ) whetherthe Reserve Bank of India

decided to provide discretionary

refinance to save banks wh ich are indire

(b ) if so . the deta ils thereof;

(c) the totalrefinance that theRB I. has

agreed to provide;

(0) the extent towhich this willhelp the

batik : and

Wri tenAnswers 278

(e) thedeta ilsofbanks . Ifany. proposed

tobeprovidedassistanceunderthe Scheme45

at present?

Export of Iron-ore from Balledllle“nee

10526. S i-IRI PRAKASH KOKO

BRAHMBHATT: Will the Ministerof C OMMERC Ebe pleased to state:

(a ) whetherJapanese SteelMills hasnot nom inated ships inthecurrent month for

transportationof ironore


(c) whether it has resulted in los s of

foreign exchange for the country and in

ha lting of product ionat Ba llad illa m ines ;

(d) whetherGovernm ent have takenupthe m atterwith the Japanese Governm ent ;and


MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS

TRI) : (a ) to Reserve Bank of indie (RBI)has reported tha discretionary refinm ce is

provided to banks by it forshort periods to

enable the banks to tide over tem porary

m ismmches betweentheireources anduses

of funds . Discretionary refinance Is not ih

tended to overcome structural problem s in

funds pos ition of banks . The scheduled

commercial banks are perm itted to draw

discretionary refinance Ip to an am ount

equivalent to of a bank's average

aggregate depos its in 1986 87. No prior.

sanctionofRBIis requiredInsuch cases . On

th is basis . lim its fordiscret ionary refinance

total Rs . crores . In additiona l. for

short periods RBIm ay sanctionadditiona l

discretionary refinance for over-com ing

temporaryliquidityproblem s onthem erits ofeach case . As onMarch the tota l

Iim itead ua liysanctioned to banks am ounted

to Rs . crores and the actualdrawa la

bythe banks aggregatedRs . cro res .

m m

(e) Iso. the cm thereof?

THE MNISTER OF STATE N THE

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a) and (b) . There

was som e shortfall innom inations of sh ipe

bq aenase SteelMills inAprii due to con

gestiona the Japanese Ports .

(c) There iano loss of foreignexchange

as lhe shortfa il inAprIi will be m ade up in

sweequent months . However. production

8dadila projectNo. 5was stoppedIoreight

days from to

(d) and (e) . MMTC had takenup the

matterwi h the Jm anese buyera as a result

ofwhich adequate numberof vessels have

beennom inated for sh ipment during May

andJune. 1990.

Foreignexchange earnings from tour

ism are not estim ated State-wise orplace

[EM

10528. SHRIMITRASENYAoAv:wrrthe Minister of TOURISM be pleased to

JYAISTHA4. (SAKA) Whi tenAnswers 278

[Translation]

(Rajasthan)

(a)whethertheITOC haveconstitutedaHigh Powered Com m ittee of Dr. Executives

in 1989- 90 to formulate concrete and ex

haustive transferpolicy/Rules forits execu

tivas in all units/divisions throughout the

000mm;

(b) if so . whetherCom m ittee have for

mulated the transferpolicy/rules ;

(c) If so . the broad outlines of the

10527. PROF. RASASINGHRAWAT:Willthe Ministerof TOURISM be pleased to

state: the number of foreigntourists who

vis‘

eed the famouspilgrim spot . Pushkarand

Dargeh Sharif Aimer inAjmer district of

Rajasthanandthetoteirevenueearnedfromthem during the last three years?

- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE




MALIK) : According to Inform ationava ilablefrom the State Government. the num berof

foreign tourists . who vis ited Puskhar and

Aim er during the Test 3 years . are given

WrittenAnswers

transfer rules as recom m ended by the

C om m ittee and the date by wh ich these

m iss are likely to be notified and im ple

m entad inITD C ;

(d) whether the exhaustive and con

crete transferrules s im ilarto theabovewould

be formulated and implem ented incase of

non- executives of ITDC and




ANDMINISTEROF STATE INTHEMINISTRY OF TOURISM (SHRISATYA PAL

MALIK) : (a ) No. S ir.

(b) to (e) . Does not arise.

BanonFi lm s Im ported by Non-Res i

dent Indians

10529 . SHRIDHARMESH PRASAD

VARMA:

SHRIP.M . SAYEED:

SHRIMANIKRAO HODLYA

GAVIT:

SHRIR.N. RAKESH:

WilltheMinisterofINFORMATIONAND

BROADC ASTING be pleased to state :

(a ) whetherGovernm ent propose to

banim port of film s by MRls ;


(c) whetherit has also beendecided to

im port film s through theNationalF ilm Devel

cpm ent C orporation; and





UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b) . Government is

MAY 25. 1990

reviewing thepolicyof importof featurefilma

by NRIs .

Second Report of Ninth Finance

C om m iss ion

10530. SHRIDHARMESH PRASAD

VARMA: Will the Ministerof FINANC E be

pleased to state:

(a ) whether Governm ent have found

som eanom alies inthe SecondReport of the

Ninth Finance C om m iss ion; and

(b) if so . the deta ils thereof and thesteps takenby Governm ent forthe rem oval

of anom alies?



TRI) : (a) No . S ir.

(b) Does not arise.

ADB's C oncess iona lAss istance to

Ind ia

SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA

MURTHY :

SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE

PATIL:

10531 .

WilltheMinisterofFINANC Ebepleased

to state:

(a ) whether India has recently been

able togetconcessionalassistance from the

(c) and (d) . As perthe Im port 8 Export

Policy for the period April 1990 to March

1993- Voi . l announced by the Government

National Prim Developm ent C orporationis

already importing film s includingvideo rights

of foreign feature film s and'

video films.

Im ports are m ade by MPOO underOpen

General Licence onthe basis of foreign

exchange released by theGovernm ent in‘

as

favour.

WrittenAnswers





MALIK) : (a ) TheGovernment have recently

givenperm iss ion forthe im port of 300 a ir

conditioning units forthe travel trade over

the next 2 years m aking ITOC the nodal

agency forthese imports at a reduceddutyof

(b) No firm quotat ions have yet been

received but it is expected that the foreign

exchange involvedwouldbe inthe regionof

Rs . crores spread overa period of 2

years .

(c) and (d) . The indigenously produced

bus airconditioners’

havenot beenproviding

the com fort level that foreign tourists are

sued to. and. therefore. a need was felt to

im port these a ircondit ioning units . The im

ports are likely to help tourism industry.

including i TDC . to increaseforeignexchange

earnings .

C rit icism of NewImport Export Policy

by Sm all Sca le Industry Group

roses. SHRISAMARENDRAKUNDU:

WilltheMinisterofCOMMERC Ebe pleased

(a ) whetherthere have beenadverse

com mentsbytheSm allScaleIndustryGroupregarding the import export policy recently

enunciated byGovernment;

(b) whether they have presented a

memorandum inthis connect ion;

(c) ifso . onwhat aspects thesm allsca le

Industries feel that they are badly h it ; and

(d) whetheranyremedialmeasures are

contemplated?

MAY 25. 1990

IFC IScheme forTechnology Finance

10534. SHRILK. ADVANI:

SHRI SHAMERSINH

VAGHELA:

WilltheMinisterofFINANCEbepleased10 state:

(c) thepart iculars of projects ass isted in

the fields of software developm ent. artHicial

intelligence. educational robots . digitised

fonts. intermediates forpesticides and hy

brid seeds



ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) to (d) . Afterthe

announcement of the Import-Export Policy.

1990- 93. a num berof representations have

beenreceived m einst som e of the provi

sions of the Policy . However. basically. the

suggestions relateto them inimum threshold

prescribed forgrant of Export hosue status .

wh ich has beenfrxed at Rs . 5 crores onNet

Foreign Exchange Earnings basis in theNew Polfcy as compered to Rs . 2 crorea

during theearlierpolicy. Basedonthe ropra

sentations received. the m inimum threshold

for recognition as Export House has not

beenreduced toRs . 4crores onNet Forelgn

ExchangeEarnings bas is with suitable tran

s itional arrangements to enable Export

Houses to achieve the aforesa id level of

exports .

(a) whethera new scheme of technol

ogy finance and developmentwas launched

towards the end of 1988 to provide Impetus

to the technologica l innovat ions and their

commercialisationinthe country by provid

ing requisitefinancialsupportundertheRisk

C apitaland technology Finance C orporation

Lim ited sponsored by the Industria lFinance

C orporationof India ;

(b) the number of projects so sanc

tioned as yet ;

WrxfenAnswers

Nandurbar

Osm anabad

Pandharpur

MAY 5 . 1990

Transnrl ter

LPT ( 100W)

LPT ( 100W)

LPT ( 100W)

HPT ( 100W)

( inrepin ement of KW transm itter)

Shahad

Wardha

Alum inium Research Inst itute At

Nagpur

10536 . SHRIVASANTSATHE:WIIltheMinisterof STEELANDMINES be pleasedto state:

(a ) whetherGovernm ent hadproposed

to set up Alum inium Research Institute at

Nagpur; and

(b) if so . the deta ils with the progress

m ade so farinthat direction?

THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINESAND MINISTER OF LAW AND

'

JUSTTC E

(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) Yes . S ir.

TheGovernment had sanctioned the settingup of the JawaharlalNehruAlum inium Research . Deveiopm ent and DesignCentre atNagpur. at anestimated cost of Rs.

crores . includingUNDP assistance of US 3m illion.

(b) The landforlooationof the C entreat

LPT ( 100W)

LPT (room

Bhandera. Maharashtra

10537 . PROF . MAHADEO

SHIWANKAR: WIIIthe‘

Ministerof STEELANDMINES be pleased to std e :

(a) whetherdeposits of valuable Man

ageness and C hrom iteOres areavalld rleIn

the Bhandara district of Maharashtra;

(b) Iso.whetherm lningwork has been

started there andwhetherGovem ment hd

forcreationof infrastructure at she shebeen

Initiated. Procurement of equ'

pm ents and

recruitrnent of scientists and staff ls inprog

ress . The Directorof the C entre and Ch ief

TechnicalAdviserunderUNDP have beenappointed. Mls ALUTERV- FKI Hungary .

have beenappointed as lntam ational S ib

contractor. The Centre has beenregisteredas a SocietyundertheRegistrationofSocie

ties Act.


receivedany representationinth is regardon

Ja mm y 29. 1990; and

(c) if so . the details thereof and the

s tuntakenthereon?

TifiMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINESAND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTIC E

(SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI) : (a ) Man

g anese depos its are reported at Dungri

Buzurg . C hilda andHiwara .Asobani. Nave

gm n-Hiwara . G .F. Karli and G .F. Bhawan

thai areas ofBhandaradistrictand C hrom ite

i IPu ntof Bhandara district .

(b ) and (c) . Atpresentonlym anaganesa

m ines are being worked inDungrbuzurg.

C h i tia and Hiwara.

A letterdated was received

from the Hon‘

bla Member regarding the

! sw ay ofMaganasa and Chrom ite ores

i I vi lage Chard of district Bhandara in

Maharashtra and the prospects of m ining

them . The m atterwas enquire into through

i ts IndianBureauof Mines who have re

ported that there nooccurrenceof manga

nese and chrom ite invillage C handi.

Ris ing of Transm issionC apacity of

AlPJDoordarshanC entres of Aur- I

gabed, Maharashtra

10538 . PROF . MAHADEOSHIWANKAR: Will the Ministerd INFOR

MATDNANDBROADCASTINGbepieased

(a) thepresent transm iss ioncapacityofRadio Stat ionand Doordarshan C entre of

Aurangabad (Maharashtra )

(b) whetherGovernment propose to"crease the transm iss ioncapac

‘

ny ofRadiostationas wellas DoordarshanC entre; and

(c) the act iontakenorproposed to betfish IIIth is regard?


ANDBROADCASTINGANDMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P.

UPENDRA) : (a ) to (c) .

A. I.R Aurangabad Is presently

aqubpedwith a 1 KWMedium Wave transm itter. There is no approved schem e to

Increase the transm iss ioncapacity of th is

Station.

Rashtriya Gram inVlkas Nldhl

10539. SHRIO .S . BASAVARAJ :

SHRIMATIBASAVARAJES

e lthaMinisterofFINANCEbepleased

to state :

(a ) whether the Industrial Finance

C orpora ion of India (IFC I) has set up a

Rashtriya Gram inVi taeMidh i ;

(b ) if so . whetherthe m a inpurpose of

theSchem e is to support thepoverty allevia

tionprogrammes inthe North EasternRe

gion; and

(c) the am ount provided by the IFC Ifor

The approved Seventh Planof Doordarshanincludes a schem e to upgrade, the

LowPower( 100W) TVTransm ittaratAuran

gahad to High Power ( 10W) A high power

(10W) TVTransm itterhas beeninstalled a

Aurangabad and is functioining on a re

ducedpowerof 1 KWwith effect fromas thework relat ing to the TV towerhas not

bancom pleted . The transm itteris envisaged

to be com m iss ioned onfullpowerof 10KWoncom pletionof the tower.

MAY S . 1990

i nflernentng'

the scheme?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER II THE

IndustrialF'nance C orpora

tionof lndia ( lFC I) has set up a Rashtriya

Gram inVi ces Midh i (RGVN) at Guwahati .Assam inApril. 1990. The ma inobject of

RGVN ie to estd ai ish . prom ote. support and

social and econom icupfitment of rural andurbanpoor and phys ica ly and socio -eco

nom ically handicappedpersons . orinfam i y

wanare program m es . In’

eially the organisa

tion intends to confine its activ‘

eies in the

North-EasternRegion. IFC Ihas a rsed. in

principle. to provide to RGVN a corpus fund

upto Rs . 2 crores ina phased manner.

10540. SHRIJ . CHOKKARAO:WilltheMinisterofCOMMERC Ebepleased to state:

(a) the deta ils of market promotion

measures takento increase the export of

leatherand leatherproducts ; and

(b) the specif icm arkets being explored

forrigorous export ca mm ign?



ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) ..The m arket

promotionm easures takento increase the

export of leatherproducts include m arket

surveys orspecificprodud s. organisationof

Buyer- SellerMeats . sponsoringSales taam s.

part icipationinspecialised com m odity fa irs .

etc. and Im parting des ign development

training fortechnicians undervarious inter

national asslstanca and cooperationprojacts .

(b) Th t spacli icr arkats beingexplored

forrigorous a portor .npa ignareWestEuro

Q uestionPapers forRecm ltm ent h

10541 . KUMARIUMA BHARATI: Will

theMinisterof FNANC Ebeplaasad to state:

(a ) the nam es of nationalised banks

andfinancial institutions which do not a ilowtha answering of qued ions inHind m edium

inthat openrecruitm ent and departmental

axarninations and whose questionpapers

are not preparad indiglot inHindi and in

English ; and

(b) the time by which Hindi medium

wouldbeallowed inthese exam inations and

questionpaperswouldbeprapared in'

diglot?



TRI) : (a) and (b) . Wh ile theopenrecruitmentforbanks is conducted by various Bank ing

Service Recruitm ent Boards

departm ental promotion exam inations are

generally held by banks them selves orcon

ducted through the Institute of Banking Par

sonnelSelection. As perawa ilabia inform a

tion. quastionpapers are prepared inbilin

gualform andcandidates aregivenoptionto

write answers either inHindi orEnglish in

exam inations conducted by Banking Serv

ice Recruitment Boards .

Most of the banks and financial institu

tions arealso allowingHindi m edium and the

quest ionpapers are sat bilingually intheirdepartm entalprom otionexam inations . The

Governm ent has already im pressedupona ll

banks and financialinstitutions to allowHindi

m edium inall exam inations and to ensure

that questionpapers are prepared Indiglot

without any furtherdelay .

MAY 5 . 1990

(a) whethersome big industrialhouses

we evading‘

ncom e- tax by showing huge

expenses onm a intenanceoq est l-Iousea

whle inpractice these Guest Houses are

used as res idential houses of Directors of

” W W :

(b ) if so. the details thereof and the

Guam Houses during the last three years ,

company-wise; and

(c) the stepsGovernment have td tenin

th is regard?


MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS

TRI) : (a ) UnderSection of theIncome

tax Act. any expendIture lncurred by an

assesses onthe m a intenance of any real

dential accom modationIn the nature of a

guest house. is not allowad as a deduction

while comm ting the total. incom e of the

assesses . If a Directorof a company uses

any bu'lding of the company. Including the

guest house. for his res idential purposes

withoutpayment of adequata rent. the value

of the perqulska computed Inaccordance

with the Income- taxRules . ls Included inthe

totalincomeoftheDlrecmrandtax ischarged

(b) Forfum ishing inform at ionwith re

gard to expenditure Incurred onthe m a inte

nanceofguest houses during the last there

years by the companies belonging to large

Industrial houses . whose names have not

been specified. a reference would be re

quired to be made to the assessment rec

ords of all the companies of all the large

industrialhouses .which areassessedto tax

by various assess ing officers all over the

country. The effort m ade and the tim e spenti t colacling this inform ationfrom hundreds

of files will not be com m ensurate with the

(c) As the m isuse ofguest houses was

felt to be a mode of tax evasbn. provisions

undersect ion of the Income- tax Act.

referre to m . were made to enable the

t me taxDepartm erl todisallow the ent'

ae

expenditure Incurredonm a intenanceof any

res identialaccommodationinthenatureof a

guest house.

Restrictions onLength of C omm ercia ls

10548. SHRIMATIBASAVA RAJES

WARI: Will the Ministerof INFORMATIONANDBROADCASTING be pleased to state:

(a ) whetherrestrict ions onthe length of

com mercials onDoordarshanare likely tobe

lifted;

(b) If so . whetherany concrete propos

als have beenreceived inth is regard ; and

(c) if so. the deta ils thereof?

any part icularcapsule is dependent onthedurationof such capsule.

AnnualMeet ing

10547 . SHRIMATIBASAVA RAJES

SHRIG . S . BASAVARAJ :

WilltheMinisterofFINANC Ebepleasedto state:

(a ) whetherTwentyTh ird annua lm eet

ingof theAs ianDevelopm ent Bankwas heldrecently;

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATIONANDBROADCASTINGANDMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P .

UPENDRA) : (a ) to (c) . Except forthe pre

sorb ed m inimum durationof 10 sownds .

there is no restriction on the length of a

oornm ercial advertisem ent for telecast.

m m

(b) i eo . whetherthedevelop'

ng ooun

lyiseere disturbed overthe overwhei nlng

a mbit ion of the developed nat ions in

M ADB's po i oies snd the tendency to

M oond'

sions to loansnnd

(c) the m ainsrb iects decussed at the

m m elmeeting and the om mereol?


IN IS'

TRYOFFINANC EQ M IANILSHAS

Yes S ir.

(b ) ADB’

s policies are shaped by the

have majori ty of share holding.

(c) The issues regarding next Replen'

shm entofAsianDevelopm erxFund. Fourth

poverty in the developing countries . and

edm issionof both Turltey and Mongolla to

theBank.werediscussed. However.no final

Seerch end Selzure C eeee

10548 . SHRI MANORANJAN

BHAKATA:Willthe Ministerof FINANCEbe

plea sed to sta e:

(a ) the numberof search and seizure

cases i t wh ich assessments are sti llpend

mg aga inst tax evas ionas on1 April. 1990;

(b ) whether any prosecutions were

launched during this perlod; and

(c) If so . the details thereof?



TRI) : (a ) As on Ist April. 1990.

a ssessments were pending in search and

seizure cases .

(b ) and (c) . prosecut ions have

beenlaunchedduring the 1989- 90. ofwh ich .

JYAB THA4. 1912 (SAKA)

595 were bnched fortax evasion.

Dietrlbutlonof i onend Steelm

1N . SHRINAKUI. NAYAK:

SHRIKESHARILAL:

WilltheMinisterof STEELANDMNESbe pleased to state:

(a) whethersteei dletrbuionbyBranch

Sales Office. Steel Authorly of India Ltd

NewDeltlhesbeendonebyviold Ingnorme

part ies since l April. 1989;

(b) the detels of gross Irregulerltlee

Government auditors on

and resped lvety

reports were favoured by allowing them to

change theirdemand altercutoff date. by

accepting booking beyond computer surn

m -rv. byw ho proportionately h igh-r

90m m . d booki e and by phys ica l!

releasing stillmore m aterials

(0) the actiontakenby Government in

this regard?


AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTTC E

(SHRIDINESH GOSWAMI) : (a ) and (b) .

880 . SAIL. NewDelh i has supplied ironand

steel m aterials interm s of J FG guidelines .

past practices and onsubm iss ionof docu

(d) llso . thedetals ofeachpartycoverd

Inabove reports. indicatlng fullpart iculars of

their licensed capacity. item/quant’

ey-wise

coverage of dem and aspercomputersum

mery. Item-wiseofftakelentitlem entof items!

quart i les booked andreleasedunderallthe

scheme s ince April89 to June. 90 (quarter

wlse) ; and

Wri tenAnswers

(b ) i so. the details thereof; and

(c) the steps takenby Government to

check recurrence of such incidents?


MINISTRYOFFINANCE(SHRIANILSHAS

TRI) : (a ) and (b) . As per inform ationavail

ablewith Reserve Bank of India (RBI) . dur

ing the year 1989. one case of burglary at

Am ritsarbranch of Bank of Maharashtra on

7th18th January. 1989 was reported by the

bank inwhich 44 safe depos it lockers we

foundbrokenopen. Bes ides . twocompla ints

were m ade by the customers one each in

respect of Mysore branch of C anara Bank

and Park C ircus (Calcutta ) branch of Dena

Bank alleging m iss ing ofcerta inornaments

(c) The banks have theirownintem al

h strud ionslguidelines forthe ma intenance

and operat ionof the lockers . RBIhas ad

vised all the banks to take precautionary

measures particularly with regard to the

locationof the vault. nature of the lockers .

need forburglaralarm system s and liaisonw

’

sh localpolice. RBIhas also made e study

of certa inbranches of banks and based on

i s findingsmdvisedthebari ts to takeneces

MAY 5 . 1990

sarysteps b strengthenthe system byplug

ging the loopholes to avo id loss of articlss

from the safe deposit vaults .

Fh encleIAseletenoe l ento Kereie by

10554. PROF. K.V. THOMAS :WintheMinisterof FINANCE be pleased to state:

(a).

the financial ass istance g iven toKerala by the Life Insurance C orporat ionfor

various schemes during the last three years

with deta ils of the schem es ;

(b ) whetherthere Is prompt repaym ent

to the LIC ; and

‘

(c) the schemes from Kerala underthe

cons iderationof the LIC ?

THE DEPUTY MlNlSTER IN THE

mfmsm vorFINANCE (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a) A Statem ent Is givenbelow.

(c) None.


Export of C eshewNute

10555 . SHRIA. CHARLES : Will the

Ministerof C OMMERC Ebepleased to state:

(a) the quantity andvalueofprocessed

cashew-nuts exportedduring the year1989

90.

(b) the target set forexport of cashew

nuts incurrent year; and

(c) the steps takenby Governm ent to

promote export of cashewnuts?



ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) According to

provis ionalfiguresreceivedfrom the C ashew

Export PromotionC ouncil. the qnantlty and

value of cashew kernels exported during

1989 - 90were MT and Rs .

croras respectively.

(b ) A tentative target ofRs . 400crores

has beenset forexport of cashew kernels

during 1990- 91 . This Is srb lect to revis ion.

(c) Steps takenbyGovernm ent to prom ote export of cashew kernels include the

fo llowing :

i) Exports onOGL

u) REPof 10% onexports of cashew

kernels ;

ii i) A C C S of 8% on the exports of

cashewkernels roastedandsa lted.

WrittenAnswers 314

inconsum erpacks of one kg'

or

less ;

Iv) Publicity through Indianm iss ions

abroad; publicationof promotional

literature in various foreign lan

guages and distributionabroad;

v) Prom oting Delegations of export

ers to strengthen and develop

contacts with importers and iden

tily problem s .

FinancialAss istance to Kerala

10556 . SHRIA. CHARLES : Will the

Ministerof FINANCE be pleased to state:

(a) the financial ass istance givento

Kerala dui ing the year1989- 90bes ides the

grants allocatedundertheplannedschem es ;

(b) the purposes forwh ich the ass is

tance was glvenand the am ount givenfor

each ;

(c) whethel the assistance glvenhasbeenproperly andfully utilised by the StateGovernm ent; and g(d) If not. cases where the allocations

have not beenfully utilised orm isut ilised?


MINISTRYOFFINANCE(SHRIANILSHAS

TRI) : (a ) and (b) . A total amount of Rs .

crores was givento theGovernm ent

of Kerala during 1989- 90 bes ides C entral

Ass istance for State's Annu IPlan and

C entral/C entrallysponsoredschemes forthat

year. as shownbelow:

WrittenAnswers MAY WrittenAnswers 320

(c) and (d) . Share InCentraltaxes and

duties and grant In lieuof tax onRa ilway

Passenger fares under the recom menda

tions of the FinanceComm iss ionwereInthe

natureofgeneralassistance to theState andthus theirreleaseIsnot linked toanyspecific

purpose. S im ilarly. sm allsavings b angiven

onthe bas is of net collection inthe State

were not linked to any specific purpose.

Central assistance forupgradationof

standards of adm inistration and relief of

naturalcalam itieswerereleasedonthebasis

of the progress/completionof schem es .

Gap betweenSupply and Dem and of

NaturalRubber

10557. SHRIA. CHARLES : WINtheMinisterofCOMMERCEbepleasedb state:

(a) the steps being takenby Government to bridge thegapbetweendernandand

supply ofnaturalrubberwith inthe country;

(b) whetherany steps have beentaken

to expand the cultivationof mbberto non

(c) if so. deta ils thereof and hectares of

land brought underrubberplantationduring

the last three years . year-wise; and

(d) them easures takenbyGovernmentb promotecultivat ionofhigh yieldingvuiety

of mbberplants?



ANGILSREEDHARAN) : (a) Increase Inthe

Indigenousproductionthrough expansionof

rubbercultivationand improvement of pro

ductivity are the mainsteps being takenby

theGovt. to bridgethegapbetweendem and

andsupplyofnaturalrubberwith inthecoun

try. Necessary Imports forthis purpose are

also being m ade.

(b) and (c) . Yes . S ir. Various stepshava

beentakento expandcultivationof h i th erto

1987- 88

1988- 89

1989-90 Provis iond

Alum inium Product ion

10558. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA

NARASIMHARA’JA WADIYAR: Will theMinisterof STEELANDMINES be pleased

(a) the nam es of various public sectorundertakings engagedInalum inium produc

tionat present ;

(b) the ach ievement made by these

public sectorcompanies In increas ing dum inium Inthe Seventh Five YearPlan;

(c) whetherGovernm ent have fixed a

target to Increase alum inium production in

the Ebhth Plan; and

Include setting up of Regional Ruth erlle

search Stations . establishment ofnurseries.

provis ionofextensionservices . suppi asm l

training. a financial assistance under tie

rubberplantationdevelopment schem e.The

area brought under rubberduring the last

three years have beenunder:

(d) The nurseries established by the

RubberBoard distribute planting m aterialto

smallholders at concess ionalrates . Inaddi

tienel. nurseries operated by the private

owners and rubbergrowers societies also

provide high-

yielding planting materials to

the rubbergrowers .

Wri tenAnswers

(d) if so. the specific measures pro

posed to be td reninthat dired ion?


AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE

(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a) Two publicsectors companies . viz . Bharat Alum inium

Com pany Lim ited (BALCO) Nat ional Alu

m inium Company Lim ited (NALOO) . areengaged inproductionof alum inium metal.

(b) During the Seventh Five YearPlan

period the product'onof BALC O has been

startedcommercialproductionduring 1987

88 whenitproduced tonnes of alu

m inium . Its production has progress ivelyi ncreased to tonnes In1989- 90. the

te rm inalyearof Seventh Five YearPlan.

(0) and (d) . Yes . S ir. Some of the

prim ary producers of alum inium have plansfor m odernization and expansion of their

existing capac'

sies during Eighth Plan.

Area C overed by Doordarshan. State

10559. SHRIA. VIJAYARAGHAVAN:

Will the Minister of INFORMATION ANDBROADCASTING be pleased to state:

JYAISTHA4. 1912 (SAKA) WrittenAnswers 322

(a) the details regarding theState-wise

percentage of area and populationcovered

by T.V. program mes ; and

(b) bywhat time the totalaree of Kerala

willbe covered by T.V. program me?


ANDBROADCASTINGANDMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P.

UPENDRA) : (a ) TV coverage. area-wise

and population-wise. invarious States/Um

IonTerritories as at present is givenInthe

Statement below.

(b) With thecom m issioning of the high

power (10KW) TY transm itter (Inreplacem ent of the exist ing low power (100 W)transm itter) underimplem entationat Calicut

by 1992- 93. about 9796 area of Kerala Is

expected to be brought underTVcoverage

( indus of the areas receiving fringe serv

ice. where elevated antennae and boosters

etc. are required forobtaining satisfactoryreception) . FurtherIm provem ent of TV cav

erage inKerala depends uponavailabilityof

resources forthe purpose.

M ienAnswers MAY 25 . 1990 Wri ter: Answers 332

(c) whethertheMMTC has reducedtltt

procurement as well as export d ironare;

10560. SHRI MANORANJAN

BHAKATA: WilltheMinisterofSTEELANDMINES be pleased to state: (d) i so. the reasons therefor?

(a) the total area at present covered

underm ines

(b ) the planned overallprogramme b

bring more area underm ining ; and

(c) the num ber of people displaced

during. the three years from areas brought

underm ining and li tely to be displaced In

1990- 91?


AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE

($5t DINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) to (c) . Total

area covered under m ining leases in the

cot‘

a’

ttry at present Is hectares.

Bringing newarea underm ining opera

tions depends onvarious econom iccons id

erat ions including potentiality .of the area

anddem and form inerals ; there Isno overall

program me in'

th is regard.

Large scale displacement of people In

m ining as has not beennormally taking

place . So e displacem ent takes place incaseof big m ining projects wh ich necessi

tates rehabilitat ionof the displaced fam ilies

andsuch rehabilitationmeasures are inveri

ablyundertakenby the Project Authorities .

Procurem ent and Exportof IronOre by

10561 . SHRIGOPINATH C AJAPA

THI: Will theM inisterof C OMMERC E be

pleased to sta s :

(a ) whetherthe stock of ironera has

beenpiling up at different ironore m ines ;

(b) i so . the reasons therefor;

(c) No. S ir.

Sales outlet of C offee Board

10562 . SHRIH. C . SRIKANTAlAHzlfi I

the Ministerof COMMERCE be pleasedto

(a) whetherthe Sales OutletseroctetBoard are working Five Days a week in

Kam atd tannd

(b) i so .whether:Government propose

to introduce s ix day wesk for thsse Selas

outlet forthe benefit of the public?

C entres of SBIforForeignExchange

Dea ling and coverOperations

10563. SHRIBASUDEB AC I-IARIA!

Willthe Ministerof FINANC Ebe pleased0

THE MINISTER OF STATE INTIE

MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRIAil

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a) and (b) . Some

stocks of ironore pilsd up inApril. 1990s

BailedilaMines duetodelay innom ind‘

enol

ahhs forVizag Port by Japanese SteelIlls

due inturnto congestioninJepa ssePorts.


MINISTRY OF COMMERC E (SHRIAR'

ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) and (b) . Yes.Sir. Inview of the 5 dayweek (40 hours) loI

all em ployees inthe Cofee Board. it willb!

appreciated that it would not be possb lelo

adapt different norm s forthe C offee Boa“I

Reta ilDepots .

WrittenAnswers

UttarPradesh . HoweverShort Wave support service

'

from Lucknow and Delhi are

available to this district .

(b) Yes Sir.

(c) and (d) . There isnomprovedschem eh set up a radio stationto Dharchula during1990- 91 . Dharchula receives Short Wavesupport service from the 10KW SW transm itters at Lucknow and Delhi . The SeventhPlanproposals of AIR includes schem es for

upgrading the Short Wave transm itters at

Lucknow-andDelhi to50KWSWeach . Then

comm iss ioned. these transm itters are en

visaged to provide additional Short Wavesupport service to thewholeof Pithoragarh .

Including Darchula .

Expenerst ttrt

10566 . SHRIHARISHRAWAT:Wl theMinisterofC OMMERC Ebepleasedb state:

(a) whether any scheme has been

formulated for the export of fru'ae during

1990-91 ;

lb) il so. the quantity of frults propoeed

b be‘

exported during th is period; and

(c) the name of iru'ss proposed to be

exported?



ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) to (c) . No spe

oi ic scheme has beenformulated for the

export of fruits during 1990-91 . TheAgricul

tural s Processed Food Products Export

Developm ent Authority (APEDA) set up byGovt. forpromoting exports of agriculurala

processed foodproducts Intaking a number

of steps to increaseexport of fruits byorgan

b’

ngbuyer- sellermeets andbypartic

'

pating

i t irsernational exhb itions for developing

newmarkets etc. lt - isnot possible to have a

flrrnestim ateof export of fruits during 1990

MAY 5 . 1990

91 as the samewoulddepend tponvarious

factors such as intem ationaltradingenviron

ment etc. The names of fruits. being ent

pom dm maneoee.erases-apples au ce.

citrus fru'ns watermelons etc.

Openh g oIDank Brancheem C hamol

Dlstrlct olUttarPradeah

10567. SHRIHARISH RAWAT: WII

theMinisterofFlNANC Ebepleasedto std e:

(a) thetotalnumberbranches ofnationalised banks opened inChamoli district in

UttarPradesh during 1989-90; and

(b) the iocations thersof?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER at m e

urmsrnvom rrm cetsttnrm l sm s

TRI) : (a ) and (b) . During year1989- 90 two

opened at Bhiri and MuldtuinC ham ol Dis

tireMirtisterofFNANC Ebepleasedto std e

(a) the names cf al foreign bari ts

operating inthecountry alongwith the loca

tions cl theirbranches ;

(b ) the prof‘

t figures of allforeignbanks

Inthe country during the last three yeus .

year-wise;

(c) the foreigncurrency reserves/de

poaits of these bari ts durlng the last three

(d) the foreigncurrency repatriation

figures of these banks during the last three

years . year-wise?


wornm cetsm rm rt sm ts

l b (d) . The IrlormationIt being

m owet tllem eewll be laldofl‘

eof the House.

Export of eranl e

69 . SHRIM.MPALLAMRAJU:Wll

the annualexports ofpolishedgran

3theIast threeyears andthelorebn

re eam ed therefrom ;

the names of countries to which

the polished granite Is exported;

the primary compet itors to India In

nationalmuket; and

ncourage the granke industry?

uttersrsnor sam eerm e

i t! or cow snce tsm rnasaeeorwwr) : (a ) Exports of

granites including t iles during the

n. ees ld ths .

Rs . m o ld ths .

Rt m wths .

The maiorbuyers lorlndianpollcedreJm an.UK.USA.WestGermany

The major compet‘

sors at Indian

are Ch ina. South Korea . Braz il.

rice. USA. Canada etc.

educt ionof cut and polished gran

euncem ent of stablepolicies by the

rammenta forgraniteIoesses inclu

e tenAnswers 336

sionof grants Industry Inthe list of thrust

steps td tenby theGovernment b further

encourq e thegranite Industry.

h etkutes Sellh g Financial Services

10570. SHRIM.M .PALLAMm um s

theMinisterofFINANC EbepIeasedtoata e:

(a) how successfulourfinancial Insti

tutes have beenInselling financial services

abroad;

(b) the nam es of all financial InstituesBanks selling financialservices abroad and

Inwh ich countries ;

(c) whetherany relaxat ionls contents

platedIntherulesragardingallowing foreign

banks to sel financialservices Inthe coun

W; and

(d) I90. the deta ils thereof?

(c) and (d) . Government have no pro

posals underconsiderationto give any reo

laxationto the foreignbanksoperating inthe

country to sell financial services inlnd a .

THE DEPUTY MINISTER l l TIE

MNISTRYOFFINANC E (Sl-RIANI. SHAS

TRI) : (a) and (b) . Preaerl ly. 9 Indianbanksareoperating in25 foreigncountrleswherein

they are rendering banking services inckrd

Ing foreignexchange. financing of import

export business. opening of letters stored!etc. They have played a s ignificant role In

financing India related trade. promoting flow

ofnon-res ident Investments. provldrycorre

spondent banking Iacilkles and raising re.

sources forIndiancompanies . Inadd'nion.

Unk Truet of lndiaJ nasaocIationwith the

MerrillLynch ofUnhedStates . had launched

off-shorefund.namely lndlaGrowth Fund.In1968 for mobilisation of funds from Non

Res ident Indians. Unit Trust of India also

undertakes consultancy services inforeign

countries as andwhenprovided. Thenames

of the Indianbanks and the countries In

wh ich they a s operating are givenbelow.

m m Answers

ExploitationoIl uerals InILP.

10573. SHRIRESHAMLM JANGDE:

SHRIPYARELALKHANDEL

Wil theMinisterd STEELANDMNSS

(a ) thequantityci ccal. iron. corundum .fit . dolom he.copper.diarnondandlimesb ne

extracted trornthe m ines byUnionGovem

ment inMadhya-Pradesh during the period

horn1984toDecem ber1989.year-wlseand

the irm arket value at that time; and

(b ) the amount oi royalty paid to the

Madhya Pradesh Government on these

m inerals during the above per'bd?


AND MINISTEROF“

LAW AND JUSTICE

(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a) No m iningoperationisusuallyundertakenby theUnion

During theperiod trom 1984toDecem

ber. 1989. the UnionGovernment has not

ti tan up any such m ining operation In

Madhya Pradesh.

lb ) Royalty is payableonlyby the lease

holderto the State Governm ent . Inview of

the answerto part (a) oi the question. the

w end pam om d w mm vbv tho

UnionGovernment b the Government of

Madhya Pradesh does not arise.

Elbert ot t onore te -llpell lrem asstar

10574. sum RESHAM LAL JANGDEWiltheMinisterd OOMMERC Ebepleasedtom

(a) therevenue earnedbyGovernmentbyeitporting Ironore from Bastarto japan

JYAISTHA4. 1912 (SAKA) Wri tenAnswers 348

during the last three years ; and

(b) the steps being takento increasethe rats d export of ironore from Bastar?

Ti leuwrsnanor STATE N THE


ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a) Sale value oi

Balladiia IronOre from Bastar regionex

ported by MMTC to Japanduring the last

three years has beenas under

1987-88

1988-89

(b) Export Comm itments torBa ilediia

ironore lumps from Rasterhave been'reo

duced torthe year 1990-91 onaccount of

domesticdem and forthis type d ore.

[Translation]

Gold Reserves kt Ih dhys Pradesh

10575. SHRIRESHAM LAL JANGDE:

M ! the“ulsterof STEEL ANDMINES be

(a) whethera largenumberof people

sre obtalning gold by seiving riversand ln

certainvilegas InRaburand Ra igarh dis

tricts d Madhya Pradesh ;

(b) it so. the details thereot;

(0) whetherthe Geologica l Survey oi

India had evermade any si lorts to explore

gold inMadhya Pradesh ; and

(d) it so. the names ol places and the

outcome thereoi ?

MAY 25. 1990

THEMNISTEROFSTEELANDMINES


(SHRIDINESH GOSWAMI) : (a ) and (b) .According to inform at ionreceivedIrom Govt

oIMadhyaPradesh. placergold inverysm all

quaraity is reported to have beenobta ined

by panning cl sand trom Bajore. Tapkara.Phariabahar. Manderbahar Pandripani .Khutgaon. Kandaibhr. Sem erkacharGarl

aband . Sabadmunda . Sanajpuri Na ia .

Bhdrkhunda Nala . Garight Nala etc. oi Ra i

garh District and Irom Baghm ara. Deogaon.Dum rapa li Oshni area oi Soniharia Nala.Deishurand Kharonokoi and Kum hari etc.

of Ra’

p'

urDistrict.

(c) and (d) . Geologica lSurvey oi Indiahas beencarrying out prelim inary assess

m ent olgold occurrences inTapkara -Pandir

Pant- Ludo areas in Dharam jaygarh and

J ashpurTehs ils of Ra igarh D istrict since1981 . Work so larcom pleted indicates assay value 01 gold inprim ary zones varyingIrem to PPM inbed rock Irom less

than to Pm inthe res idual soil and

from gm /tonne to gm ltonne in the

gravel zones/alluvia lplacers .

Screenh g o f Kannada Feature Fi lm s on

Banga lore Doordarshan

10576 . SHRIH. C . SRIKANTAIAH:Will


(a ) whethertheBangaloreDoordarshan

h a s beenscreening Kannada testurefilm so nevery Saturday ;

M if 80 . whetherGovernm entP'OPOSOso take steps to screen Kannada feature

f i lm s onevery Sunday onBangalore Door

d a rshan; and

(0) WhetherGovem m Omb

regional languq e Kannada onSaturdays?




UPENDRA) : (a ) Yes . S ir.

(b) No. Sir.

(c) The telecast ot the reg iond pro

gramm e on Saturdays from Doordarshan

Kendra at Bangalore already beg ins halm

hourearlierthanonotherweek days .

Kannada T.V. Serials onBanga lona

10577. SHRIN.O . SRIKANTAIAH: W3


(a ) thenumberof Kannada T. V. send s

shownonBanga lore Doordarshan duri ng

1988-89 and 1989- 90;

(b) thenames ot the Directors orthese

TV serials and the am ount pa id to th em by

the Bangalore Doordarshan;

(c) whethertheBangaloreDoord arshan

is selecting theTV serials produced by a tew

(d) the criteria adopted in se lect'

ngKannada T

'V serials?

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATIO NANDBROADC ASTING ANDMINISTERO FPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P .

UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b) . The num ber a tKannada serials shown on Doorda rs hanKendra. BangaloredurirIg 1988- 89 and 198990 is sevenand 22 respectively . The na m esoi the directors ol these seria ls a o oivonbebwh the stateM Al these wero m on

WrittenAnswers

Sl. No. Nam e of the Serial

Dodda Mane

MechanicMudda

Alegalu

Mr. Tenant

Nam m a Nam m ali

Prem ada Karanj i

C razy C orlnal

Nagalesu

NeevuNsavu

BadukuBannada C hittara

Sphota

Kanna Muche Kaade Koode

Preeti Prem a

Aud itoria of Ministry of ISB


BHOSALE: Will the Ministerof INFORMATIONANDBROADC ASTING bepleased to

(a) thenam esofplaceswhereauditoria

have beenconstructed by the Ministry.

(b) whetherthese auditoria are allowed

onprivate bookings ;

(c) if so . the deta ils of criteria forsuch

booking and charges . placewise.

MAY 25. 1990

Raghavendrs

Ram esh Bhatt

Katta Ramacha idrr

S ihi Kah i C handra

ArjunDev and

TN Narasimhan

Vishva Prasad

Lingerai

Katta Ram achandra

A.S . Murthy

H.T. Nagendrappa

R. Nagesh

R.S . Kowshik

ArjunDev

(d) whether his Ministry proposel°

construct such more auditoria during 199°

and 1991 ; and

(e) if so. the deta ils thereof?

THE MINISTER OF iNFORMATlON


PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRIP

UPENDRA) : (a ) The following auditoria3"

owned by the Ministry of Inform ation

Broadcast ing .

( i) S iri Fort Auditorium . NewDOW

( ll) Film s Divis ionAuditorium .NW

hadev Road. New Delhi .

353 m unAnswers JYAISTHA4. 1912 (SAKA)

(t'

i ) NFDC Auditorium . Bom bay. above are allowed onprivate bookings .

(Iv) AIRAudib rium . Bombay. (c) Priv! e bookings are done onfirst

come- i irst - served bas is . C harges oi book

(v) AIRAudib rium . New Delhi. ings are g iveninthe statement below.

(vi) Auditorium . Pune. (d) and (e) . Yes . S ir. AIR envisages to

construct a sm all auditorium at Pune and

(b) Auditoria mentioned at ( i) to ( iii ) recording studio-cum -Audltorium atMadras .

Oi

Oi)

( iii)

( iv)

(ll)

STATEIE NT

Dram alC ulturalShow Perform ance:

One show inthe m orning session A. to PM)

One show inthe evening sess ion PM to PM) Rs .

Additional show (same day)(Maximum 3 hours)

Morning Session(with nit conditioning

Morning Sess ion(without a ir-conditioning

Evening Sess ion (with a ir-conditioning)

EveningSession(without a ir-conditioning)

Forone Show only RS .

Formore thanone show

First Show Rs .

Second Show RS .

Th ird Show

Subsequent Shows (PerShow)

MAY 25. 1990

Maximum 8 hours Rs .

AdditionalCharge Rs . 2.000l perhour

Overand above 8 hours .

The party hiring the auditorium can hire the following additional space. if

required. by paying the hiring charges indicated against each :

OFFIC EROOM SlN THE SIRIFORTC ULTURAL C ENTRE C OMPLEX:

RS . 21 11 perroom perday/perShow

TWO GREENROOM BAC K STAGE:

Rs . 4981 perday/prShow.

Film DivisionAuditorium . NewDelhi

( i) Showonweek days withinoffice hours- forfirst one hour

orpart thereof

(It) Forevery addit ional half anhourorpart thereof

(III) Shows onsundays . holidays and outside office hours on

work ing days 330/

( iv) Forevery additionalhalf anhourorpart thereof

MPOOAuditorium . Bom bay

PerShowCharges

Invitationto Aud ience forRecording of

Programm e onNew YearEve


BHOSALE: Will the Ministerof iNFORMA

TIONANDBROADCASTING bepleased to

state:

(a) whetherGovernment propose to

broad base the criteria forrecording of pro

gram m es onNew Year’

eve to include gen

eralpublicotherthanthe relatives/acqua in

tances of the staff ofAIR Doordarshanas

audience;

(b) if so . the tim e bywh ich the criteria

willbe broadbased; and

(c) thedeta ils of theprocedure followedinth is regard?

WrittenAnswers



TRI) : (a ) and (b) . The searches were con

ducted byUR L and Enforcem ent Director

ate oh 25 90. The Officers of Income Tax

Department were also associated. Certa in

incrim inating ,docum ents from FERA. C us

tom s and Incom e Tax angles have been

seized.

(c) Oncompletionof investigationbythe revenue agencies . act ioninaccordance

with relevant laws willbe taken.

Overdraft Facility to Punjab

10583. SHRIKAMAL C HAUDHRY:

WilltheMinisterof FINANC E be pleased to

(a ) whether the Punjab Government

has requested the UnionGovernm ent to

enhance the overdraft facility to Punjab and

increase the period for rem itt ing the over

draft ;

(b) if so . the action taken by Union

Governm ent; and

(c) whetherthe Punjab Governm ent is

rem itt ing the overdraft intim e?



TRI) : (a ) No . S ir.

(b) and (a) . Do not arise.

Tax Evas ionby Utens ils ManufacturingFactories InPunjab

10584. SHRIKAMAL C HAUDHRY:Willthe Ministerof FINANC E be pleased tostate :

(a ) whether various steel utens ils

m anufacturing factories inPunish wh ich are

not reg istered with Governm ent are not

MAY 25. 1990

ma inta ining any accounts of the sales a id

purchases etc. and thus evading taxes;

(b) if so . the steps takento check tax

evas ionby such factories ; and

(c) thenum berof cases of tax evasion

by such factories detected during the last

one year?


MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS

TRI) : (a ) and (b) . Utenci is areexemptedfrom

duty underC entral Excise Tariff Act. 1985.

Utenciis Manufacturers having income

exceedingRs . or turnoverexceed

ing Rs . as specified inSection

44AAof the Incom eTax Act. have to main

ta inaccounts .

(0) No case of Incom e tax evasion

during the last one year has come to the

notice.

Im port of Mach ines by Hindustan

Photofilm Manufacturing C ompany

10585 . SHRI V . SREENIVASA

PRASAD :WilltheM inisterof C OMMERCE

be pleased to Sta te :

(a ) whether the HindustanPhotofilm

Manufacturing C ompany ha s im ported a

numberof m ach ines recently:

(b) if so. the deta ils of the machines

im ported and the purpose forwh ich these

m achines have beenim ported ;

(c) the deta ils of the foreigncompanies

from which these m achines have beenin

ported:

(d) whetherthe m ach ines have been

found defective ; and

(e ) if so . the respons ib ility fixed by

ment on the import of defective

as?

E MINISTER OF STATE IN THE

RY OF COMMERCE (SHRIAR

;REEDHARAN) : (a ) to (e) . The infor

i t being collected.

as forInvert and Distribut ionof

Photosens ltlve Material

586 . SHRID.M. PUTTE GOWDA:Ministerof C OMMERC E bepleased

whether the Delhi Profess ional

apher’

s Association has urged

nent to end the practice of licensinginand distrt utionof photosens itive

I:

if so . the reactionof Governm ent

andwhetherGovernm entpropose to

is the import and distribution of

ns itive m aterial; and

ifnot . the reasons therefor?

E MINISTER OF STATE N THE

RY OF C OMMERC E (SHRIAR

SREEDHARAN) : (a ) Yes . S ir.

and (c) . Inviewof indigenous ava ile

acia ltypes of X- ray film s viz . (1 LO

am m ographic film s ; (2 ) Massm ini

os ; (3) Special types of X- ray film s

changers : and (4) X- ray film s for

nners have Deét‘

i Shea ? from "19

eneral Licence to the Lim ited Per

List inthe Import and Export Policy- 93onthebas is Ofrecom m endation

>m m ittee of Em inent Radio logists

ed under the cha irm ansh ip Of the

DirectorGeneralOfHealth Services .

pes of photosens itive m aterials are

for im port underOpenGeneral Li

1912 (SAKA) WrittenAnswers 362

Indirect Taxes underDisputes

10587. SHRIDHARMESH PRASAD

VARMA: M ilthe Ministerof FINANC E be

pleased to state:

(a ) whethera huge amount of indirect

taxes and particularly C ontrolExcise duties

is underdispute; and

(b) if so . whetherGovernmentpropose

to create a forum on the pattern of the

Settlem ent C om m iss ionto enterta inm atters

relating to indirect taxes?



TRI) : (a ) Yes . S ir.

(b) Aproposalis undercons iderationat

the prelim inary stage .

Sett ing up of Radio Stat ions InPunjab

During Seventh Plan

10588 . SHRIKAMAL C HAUDHRY :



(a ) the num berof Radio Stations withlocation thereof set up by Governm ent in

Punjab during the Seventh F ive YearPlan:

(b) whether Governm ent have any

preposal to set up new Radio stat ions in

Punjab during the Eighth Plan; and

(c) if SO . the nam es of the places iden

tilled fortheirlocation?



PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P .

UPENDRA) : (a ) NO new radio station has

beencom m iss ioned inthe State Of Punjab

during the Seventh Five Year Plan. How

ever. the approved Seventh PlanOfAIR has

schem es forsett ing upnew radio sta tions at

WrittenAnswers MAY WrittenAnswers

Bhatinda and Patiala . These stations are

envisaged to becom m lssionedduring 1990.

(b) and (c) . Furtherexpans ionofRadio

Service intheState‘

of Punjabcanbeconsid

ered once the financial allocationand the

phys ica l target of the Eighth Five YearPlanhave beenfinalised by the Planning C om

m iss ion.

Im port o f Fore ignC are

10589. SHRIE.S .M. FAKEER MO

HAMED : Will the M inisterof C OMMERC Ebe pleased to state:

(a ) whetherGovernm ent propose toliberalise the rules relating to import of for

eigncars ; and

(b) if so . the deta ils thereof?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEMINISTRY OF COMMERC E (SHRIARANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) No. S ir.

(b) Does not arise.

S i. No. Nam e ofDistrict/C entre

BILASPUR

B ilaspur

Korba

Sewar

rTranslation1

Opening of Bank Branches InMa

Pradesh

Theexisting data reportingeyster

not generate Inform ationregarding I

of Scheduled C aste m ajority centres .

Nam e of Bank

Allahabad Bank

OrientalBank of C om m erce

Punjab and S ind Bank

C entralBank of India

State Bank of India

10590. SHRIRESHAM LAL JAI

Wi llthe Ministerof FINANC Ebe plea

state thenames ofplacesInRa ipur. Bi

and Ra igarh districts of Madhya Pr

where the State Bank of India . nation

bank and regionalruralbanks have 0

theirbranches during theperiod from i

1985 toMarch31 . 1990and thenam e

Scheduled C astes m ajority placesthem ?


MINISTRYOF FINANCE(SHRIANIL !TRI) :Thenam es ofthecentreswhere

SectorBanks and regionalruralbanlc

Opened theirb ranches during thefrom April 1 . 1985 to March

Districts of Bilaspur. Ra igarh and RaMadhya Pradesh . aregiveninthe statbelow.

Sl. No.

WrittenAnswers

Name ofDistrict/C entre

Mohgaon

Bailha lpur

Dam apur

S ildaha

Amora

Belpan

C hhatauna

Mochh Bilaspur

RAIGARH

Bimda

Sarabkombo

Laripani

Sukhrapara

Konda Tara i

Sankara

Gaj iadih Ra igarh

RAIPUR

Ra ipur


Name ol Bank

State Bank of India

State Bank of India

UnionBank of India

Allahabad Bank

State Bank of Indore

State Bank of India


C entralBank of india



Ra igarh Kshetriya Gram inBank

State Bank of India

Ra igarh Kshetriya Gram inBank

C entralBank of India

State Bank of India

Punjab Nat ional Bank

State Bank of india

Bank of Maharashtra

IndianOverseas Bank

Sonadib

Chanat

Lambar

Kolihadeori

Bichh iya

Pendravan

Dhans ir

Samoda

Godh i

C handkhuri

Jakharpara

Dhawalpur

Patharla

KOhakuda

JYAISTHA 4. 1912 (SAKA) Wri teri Answers 370

State Bank of Saurashtra

Dena Bank

Punjab NationalBank

State Bank of India

Dena Bank

Dena Bank

Punjab Nat ional Bank

State Bank of India

IndianBank

State Bank of India

Den’

a Bank

Dena Bank

Dena Bank

Punjab Nat ionalBank


UnionBank of India

Dena Bank

Dena Bank

State Bank Of India

Allahabad Bank

Dena Bank

Punjab Nationd Bank

Urm al UnionBank of India

Hatiora Punjab NationalBank

State Bank of India

Soridkhurd State Bank of India

Bam hani State Bank of India

Git-Puri C entralBank of India

Deosundra C entralBank of India

Rohansi State Bank of India

Gums UnionBank of India

State Bank of India

Ba lda CentralBank of India

Khedwa IndianBank

Allahabad Bank

Gattasilli Dena Bank

Mechka PunjabNat ional Bank

Karegaon Punjab NationalBank

Khauna Ra ipur Dena Bank

[English ] (a ) the num berof employees of the

MITC O factories gett ing the C entralGovem

Pay Scale of MMTC Em ployees m ent Sca le of MMTC . category-wise ;

10591 . SHRIA.K .ROY:Willthe Minis

terof COMMERC E be pleased to state:(b) the num berof employees of the

MITC O factories getting wage Board scale

WrittenAnswers

does not seem feas ible to introduce new

welfare schem es forthecineworkers forthe

present . However. efforts are constamly

m ade to extend benefits of the schem e for

award of scholarsh ips to m aximum num ber

of beneficiaries . The Welfare facilities are

provided keeping inviewthe resource pos i

tionof the Fund.

Transferof Am ount to C ine Artists

Welfare Fund

10593. SHRIR.L.P. VERMA: Will the

Minister of INFORMATION OF BROAD

C ASTING be pleased to referto the reply

givenon29th Decem ber. 1989 to Starred

QuestionNo . 93 regarding transferof profit

to C ineWorkers Welfare Fund and state:

(a ) whether the total amount due to

transferto the C ineArt istsWelfare Fund has

S ince beentransferred to that Fund; and

(b) ifnot. the steps being takenforearlytransferof the due amount?




UPENDRA) : (a ) No. Sir.

(b) Ina m eeting held inApril 1990with

the counsel of S ir Richard Attenborough .

one of the part icipants inthe C c-

production

andFinanceAgreem ent forthefilm‘Gandhi’.

itwas decided to form a separateTrust inthe

nam e of C ine Artists Welfare Fund in line

with theprovis ions inthe C O-

productionand

Finance Agreem ent forthe film‘Gandh i’. It

was decided that such a Trust should be set

upbyNFDC . C orporationhasdecided toset

up a Trust C a lled C ine Artists Welfare Fund

with an initial contributionof Rs .

Finaldraft of Trust Deed is underprepara

tion. Separately. a proposalfordeputationof

an Indian delegation to V.I<. for deta iled

discuss ions fortransferof 5% of net profits

from the film‘Gandh i’ to the C ine Art ists

MAY 25. 1990

Welfare Fund is undercons ideration.

Ut ilisationof Ass istance by Sick links

10594. SHRIRAM NAIK:Wi ll theMin

isterof FINANC E be pleased to state:

(a ) whethertheBoard forIndustrialand

Financial Reconstruction and/or national

ised banks exercise controloverthe utilisa

tionof the interim amount disbursed to sick

units ;

(b) the measure takento see that the

relatives and lor trusted friends of owners

are not onthe m anaging com m ittee of the

cooperative society formed by the employees to runthe sick unit;

(c) whetherthe above authorities eh

surethatIegitim atedues .notprotectedunder

labourlaws . are pa id ondue dates ; and

(d) the rem edial m easures taken/pro

posed by Governm ent to protect the inter

ests of the sm all depos itors and debenture

holders of the sick units?



TRI) : (a ) to (d) . Interm s ofprovisions of Sick

Industrial C ompanies (Special Provis ions)Act. 1985 . Board forIndustrialand Financial

Reconstruction (BIFR) has no powers to

disbursem onies to thesick/weakunits . Such

disbursem ents are m ade interalia by banks

and financial institut ions who are expected

to m onitor the ut ilisation of the am ounts

disbursed by them .

BIFR has reported that so far it has

sanct ioned only one schem e forrevivalof a

S ick industria lcompany withworkers part ici

petion. nam ely Kam ani Tubes Ltd . The

schem e inter- a ils envisages ( i) transferof

shares of the Kam eni’

s (about 91 and

others of the facevalueofRs . 95 lakhs to the

workers’

cooperat ive ( i i) vesting the m an

377 WrittenAnswers JYAISTHA 4. 1912 (SAKA) WrittenAnswers 376

agement of the company ina reconstituted

Boardof Directors cons ist ing of profess ion

alyqualified experiencedpersons including

2 representatives of the worker’

s coopera

tivehi ) payment of retrenchment compon

sation (iv) provis ion for payment. am ongothers. to depos it holders . etc. Im plementa

tionof the scheme is monitored by the BIFR

soas to initiate rem edial m easures. if any

caled for.

Money of Ind ianC om panies Blocked by

Iran

10595 . SHRIANBARASUERA: WilltheMinister of FINANC E be pleased to

(a) whether Rs . 59 crores of som e

IndianC om panies have been blocked by

Iran;

(b) if so . whetherUnionGovernmenthave takenup th is issue with Iran; and



MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a ) Accord ing to inform at ionreceivedfromReserveBank ofIndia . theoutstandings

as on inrespect of project exportsand com m odity exports m ade to Iran

amounted to an equivalent of RS .

crores .

(b ) and (c) . The questionof paym entsdueto various Indiancom panies was taken

up by the Governm ent of India with theGovernm ent of IraninAugust. 1989. It was

agreed that the Governm ent of Iranwouldlook into the cla im s of Ind iancom panies and

facilitatepaym ents to them from Iranianfirm s/

governm ent agencies and other legal enti

ties ih respect of leg it im ate pending cla im s .

Bank G edlt to Poor

10596 . SHRIANBARASUERA: Willthe Minister of FINANC E be pleased to

state:

(a) whethertheReserve Bank of India

has givenany instruct ions to the national

ised and othercomm ercia lbanks to stepup

credit to the poor; and

(b) i f so . broad features thereof?


MINISTRYOF FINANC E (SHRIANIL SHASTRI) : (a ) and (b) . Bankswere advisedby the

ReserveBank ofInd ia to ra ise theproportion

of their advances to 40 percent and 10

percent of their tota l advances to Priority

Sectorand WeakerSect ions’

respect ively.

To ach ieve these object ives . banks are aolively participating in special program m es

initiated by Government such as the Inte

grated Rural Developm ent Programme

(IRDP) . Differential Rate of Interest (DRI)Schem e and Self-Employm ent Program m e

forUrbanPoor (SEPUP) for im proving the

econom icconditionof the weakersections .

TheDRISchemecaters to thecreditrequire

m ents of the weakeramong the weak and

ass ists them in their efforts to better their

econom ic condit ion by sm all productive

endeavours . Integrated RuralDevelopm ent

Program me a im s at helping identified poor

fam ilies inthe rural areas to cross the pov

erly line by enabling them to acquireproduc

tive assets with the help of subs idy and

institutional finance . Self- Employm ent Pro

gram m e forUrbanPoora im s to provide self

em ploym entopportunit ies tourbanpoorand

covers allcities/townswh ich arenotcovered

under Integrated Rural Developm ent Pro

gram m e. PersonSwhosetota lfam ily incom e

does not exceed RS . 600/ pm . are elig ible

forass istance underth is program m e .

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C o lns Black Market ing

10597. SHRIANBARASUERA: Will

the Minister of FINANC E be pleased to

(a ) whetherthere is black -m arket ing of

coins inthe country;

(b) ifso .whetheranyarrests havebeen

made in this connect ion in 1988- 89 and

1969- 90; and

(c) if so . the deta ils thereof and the

actiontakenthereon?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E(SHRIANILSHAS

TRI) : (a ) to (c) . As a result of various steps

takenby theGovernm ent to stepupproduc

tionand supply of co ins there is abundant

ava ilability of coins inthecountry. NO arrest

onaccount of black m arket ing of coins has

beenreported by any State Government .

Ass istance by FinancialInst itut ions for

Industria lDevelopm ent InTam ilNadu

10598. SHRIANBARASUERA: Will

the Ministerof FINANC E be pleased to

state:

(a ) whetherany financialaid has been

givenby the public sectorfinancial institu

tions forthepromotionof industria ldevelop

m ent inTam ilNaduduring the lasttwoyears ;

and

(b) if so. the deta ils thereof?



TRI) : (a) and (b) . The Industrial Develop

MAY 25. 1990

1967- 66 1966-89

Sanctions

D isbursements

Bokaro Steel Plant

10599 . SHRIA.K. ROY :WilltheMinis!

terof STEEL AND MINES be pleasedio

state:

(a ) the num berof theft cases of steel

and otherm aterials from Bokaro SteelPlant

inthe last five years and the am ount of loss

thereof with year-wise break -up;

(b) the expenditure onthe security in

the planduring the above period ;

(c) whetherboth the above things are

onthe increase;

(e) the steps takento check them?


ANDTHE MINISTER OF LAW ANDJUS

TIC E (SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a) The

des ired inform ationis givenbelow:

Am ount of Loss

151

m ent Bank Of India (IDBI) has reportedthat

the three All- Ind ia Financia l Institution

nam ely . IndustrialDevelopm entBankoflndii

(IDBI) . IndustrialFinance C orporationoflnda

(IFC I) and Industrial Credit and Investmort

C orporationof lndia . Ltd . (IC IC I) haveduringthe last two years sanctioned and disburse

the following amounts to pro jects inTami

Nadu.

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High C ourt of Maharashtra during the last

three years . year-wise ; and

(b) the steps proposed to be takenbyGovernm ent forearly disposalof arrearsof

cases and provide speedy and cheap jus

tics ?



TIC E (SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) The

num berof cases pending inBom bay High

C ourts during the last 3 years is as follows :

NO. of cases

139546

142691

156454

(b) The m atterof filling up the vacant

posts Of judges inthe Bom bay High C ourt is

engag ing the attentionof the Governm ent .

Bes ides . a C om m ittee of 3 C hief Justices of

High C ourts has been constituted by the

Governm ent inJanuary. 1989 to study the

problem of arrears inC ourts and to suggest

rem edialm easures .

MAY

Perforrnanca ofNatlona lleed Bani

10603. SHRIVASANTSATHE:WI‘

Ministerof FINANC E be pleased te st

(a) the nam es of first five nations

com m ercia lbanks interm s of theiroutst

ing perform ance for the year 1989- s

orderof theirm erits andm a inach ievem

and also the bottom three with unsati:

tory perform ance;

(b) the incentive g ivenforbetter

form ance and dis incentives forunsati

tory perform ance ; and

(c) theefforts being m ade/propose

encouraging hea lthy com petitions an

the nationa lised banks?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSI

TRI) : (a) The perform ance of banks ca

judged by various param eters relatir

theirfunctioning . Inso far as advanci

prioritysectorandweakersect ion.with s

lated targets of 4096 and 1096 of tota

vances respectively. are concerned. thr

five and last threenationalised banks (r

20 nationalised banks ) according to

perform ance as at the and of Deca i

1989 (latest ava ilable) are givenbelch

WrittenAnswere

(a ) the financialass istance sanct ionedbyvarious public sectorfinancial institut ions

forthe prom otionof industrialdevelopm ent

inAndam anandNicobarIslands during the

last two years ; and

(b) the actualam ount. out of the above.

disbursed in the UnionTerritory during theabove period?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a ) and (b) . It has beenreported byIndustria lDevelopm ent Bank of India (IDBI)that the fourAll- Ind ia Term Lending Finan

cia lInst itut ions nam ely. IndustrialDevelopm ent Bankof Ind ia (IDBI) . IndustrialFinanceC orporat ionof India (IFC I) . Industria l C redit

and Investm ent C orporation of india Ltd.

(IC IC I) and IndustrialReconstruct ionBank

of India (IRBI) have togethersanctioned and

disbursed during the last two years to units

bested in Andam an and Nicobar Islands

and following am ounts :

1987- 88 1988- 89

Sanction

Disbursem ents

Opening of Reg ionalRural Bank In

Andam anand NicobarIs lands

10608 . SHRI MANORANJAN

BHAKATA:WilltheMinisterof FINANC E be

pleased to state :

(a ) the num berof regiona l rura lbanks

opened inAndam an and Nicobar Islands

during 1987- 88. 1988- 89 and 1989- 90;

(b) whetherGovernm ent propose to

open m ore reg iona l rural banks there in

1990- 91; and

MAY 25 . 1990



MINISTRYOF FINANC E (SHRIANILSTRI) : (a ) No . Reg iona lRura lBank hasestablished in Andam an and Nicuba

lands so far.

(b) and (c) . There is no propoi

present to openanyReg iona lRuralBi

the Andam an and Nicobar Islands d

1990- 91 .

[Transla tion]

Loans Advanced Under SEEUI

10609. SHRIRAJVEER SINGH

the Minister of FINANC E be pleas

state:

(a ) thenum berofpersons benefitt

far. underthe Self- em ploym ent to Edui

Unemployed Youth Schem e ;

(b) the tota l am ount of loans prounderthe Schem e during 1989

—90; i

(c) the am ount a llocated forpron

ass istanceunderthe Schem eduring 15

91?

(c) The Governm ent provides an

right C apital subs idy to the extent 0125

the loanamount to the beneficiaries u


MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANILSTRI) : (a ) and (b) . Reserve Bank of

reported that underthe Self— Employ

Schem e forEducated Unem ploym ent )

(SEEDY) . loans have been sanction

lakh personsduring theperiod 19

84to 1988- 89. Thedata forthe year19!

regarding the num berOf beneficiaries

the am ount of loans sanctioned to

underSEEDY Schem e has not yet ber

ava ilable .

WrittenAnswers JYAISTHA 4. 1912 (SAKA)

i s schem e forwhich a provis ionof Rs . 57

rores has beenm ade forthe year1990-91 .

ForeignProjects Bagged by Ind ian

C om panies

10610. SHRIRAJVEER SINGH: Willto Ministerof C OMMERC E be pleased to

(a ) the num berof projects inforeignountries forwhich contracts were received

y Indiancom panies ; and

(b ) thenam esof thecountries awardinguch contracts?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEIINISTRY OF C OMMERC E (SHRIARiNGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) The totalnum

erof contracts forOverseas projects res ived by the Indiancom panies during the

eriod 1987. 1988- 89 and 1989- 90 were

00. according to the inform ationreceived

om the Ex im Bank of India .

(b ) Nam es of the countries award ing

iese contracts were as under:

Algeria

2 . Bahra in

3. Bangladesh

I. Ethiopia

5 . Indones ia

Kuwa it

10. Jordan

27 .

26 .

29.

30.

32 .

33.

Malyas ia

Malawi

Maldvies

Mozam bique

Nigeria

Om an

PDRY

Saud i Arabia

Sri Lanka

Somalia

Sudan

Syria

Ta iwan

Tha iland

Turkey

YAR

Zambia

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[English

Recruitm ent of C lass—IV Em ployees In

Banks

10611 . SHRIR. JEEVARATHINAM:

IMIIthe Ministerof FINANC E be pleased tostate:

(8 ) whether the C lass - IV em ployeesare first employed inda ily wages bas is bytheconcerned BranchManagers ofthebanks

and later onregularised;

(b) if so . whetherGovernm ent proposeto fram e rules and procedure to be fo llowed

forthe recruitm ent of C lass- IV employees

by the various nationa lised banks and

(c) the num berof C lass - IV em ployeework ing indifferent nationalised banks at

presentontem porary/da ilywages bas is and

whenwill theirservices beregularised?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHASTRI) : (a ) to (c) . The recruitm ent insubordi

nate cadre inpublic sectorbanks is done

through the Em ploym ent Exchanges/Z ilaSa inik BoardsN ocational Rehabilitations

C entres . Regularappo intm ents insubordi

nate cadre of the bank are not m ade by the

branch m anagers disrectly . Vacancies of

tem porary nature are. however. filled on

tem porary/da ily wages bas is to enable the

banks to cope with the increase inwork of a

tem porary nature/absenteeism of the regu

lar incum bents . Tem porary em ployees . as

per the provis ions of the Bipartite settle

m ents as well as underthe industria l laws .

are cons idered for perm anent absorption

subject to their be ing eligible in term s of

qua lifications etc. as well as underthe ap

propriate provis ions of the Bipart ite Settle

m ents/industriallaws . Banks .generally . keep

a panelof such em ployees fortheirabsorp

tionaga inst future vacancies . Som e banks

have agreements with their unions in this


regard. Since recruitm ent for the subordi

nate cadres of the public sector banks is

done by the zona l/Reg iona llDivis ional ol

fices at the field levels . the data collection

system ava ilablewith them does not readily

generate the requis ite inform at ionwith re

spect to the num berof such em ployees.

Loans Advanced to Tam i lNaduUnder

IRDP

10612 . SHRIR. JEEVARATHINAMMIII

the Minister Of FINANC E be pleased to

state :

(8 ) whetherGovernm ent propose to

cont inue the Integrated Rura lDevelopment

Program m e (IRDP) ;

(b) the tota lam ount Of loans d is tributed

to the people inTam ilNaduunderthe IRDP

during the last three years ;

(c) whether Governm ent propose to

involved the loca lMem bers of Parliam ent in

the distributionof IRDP loans so that they

m ay help inthe distribut ionOf such Ioans to

genuine needy persons ; and

(d) if so . the deta ils thereof?



TRI) : (a ) Yes . S ir. IntegratedRura lDevelopm entProgram m e IRDP) has beenextended

forthe year1990- 91 .

(b) The amount of loans disbursed bybanks underIRDP inTam ilNaduduring the

last three years is as under:

Amount (Rs . inlakhs)

1987- 88

1988- 89

1989- 90

(Ti ll Feb 1990)

WrittenAnswers




UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b ) . Allthe 26 districts of

Maharashtra ( 1981 C ensus ) are covered byTV service. wholly orpart ially. TV coverage

is expected to substant ia lly im prove insom e

of these districts oncom m iss ioning of the

h igh power ( 10 KW) transm itters under

im plem entation at Aurangabad and Am

bajoga i during the current financialyear.

(c) and (d) . AllTV transm itterinMahar

ashtra are linked to DoordarshanKendra .

Bom bay via Satellite for relay of Prim ary

(Reg iona l) service .

Broadcast/Telecast of Program m es o f

Drug Abuse

106 16 . SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA

NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: M il the

Ministerof INFORMATION AND BROAD


(a ) whetherAll India Radio and Door

darshan are broadcasting and telecasting

anyprdgram m e td tackle them enace of drug

abuse ;

(b) if so . whensuch program m e was

launched by AIR and Doordarshan;

(c) whetherthe views of IndianC ouncil

of Medica lResearch (IC MR) and othervo i

untary organisations have beentakenwh ile

producing these program m es ;

(d) whethersuchprogram m es arebe ingcovered inthe Reg iona lstations of AIR and

Doordarshan indifferent States ; and

(e) if so . the deta ils thereof?

'Radio , Drug . Alcoha l. Tobacco Education.

MAY 25 , 1990

THE MINISTER OF INFORN

ANDBROADC ASTINGANDMINIS'

PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SI

UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b) . Program I

Drug Abuse are regularly telecast b

darshaninvarious form ats .

S im ila rlyAllIndia Radio stat ions

cast about400program m es every m

the subject of Drug Abuse . Inaddi

India Radio has launched a specia l

seria l ent itled Radio DATE wh ich i

broadcast currently from the 8th Apri

(o) Views of Ind ianC ouncilof I

Research and othervoluntary organ

have beenreflected/takeninto ecoou

producing these program m es .

'Rad i

is a jo int venture with the IndianC c

MedicalResearch .

(d) and Reg ional Doorc

Kendras nam ely . Delh i . Bom bay. C

Srinagar. Madras , Ja landhar, Ll

Hyderabad. Bangalore the Trivandn

cast program m es onDrug’

Abuse ac

to theirprogram m e requirem ents .

All Program m e Orig inating Sta

AllIndia Radio arebroadcastingmomonDrug Abuse and the

'Radio DATI

is being broadcast in15 languages .

Schem e ForDevelopm ent of KI

Pauri Garhwa l As Touris t I

10617. SHRISARJU PRASJ

ROJ : Will the Minister of TOURIE

pleased to state :

(a ) whether the Governm ent I

Pradesh has sent any schem e ford

ing KhirsuinPauriGarhwa las a m mto UnionGovernm ent for its approv .

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(b) if so. the deta ils thereof and the tim e

bywhich it is likely to be m proved; and

(c) if not . the reasons therefor?





MALIK) : (a ) No . Sir.

(b) Does not arise .

(c) Developm ent of tourism is prim arilytherespons ibility of the StateGovernm ent.

G edlt Faci lit ies to Fisherm en

106 18 . SHRIT. BASHEER: Will theMinisterof FINANC E be -pleased to state:

a) Forloanamount upto Rs . 7500/

(b) Loans overRs . 7500/ and upto

Rs .

(c) Loans overRs . and upto

Rs .

(d) Loans overRs .


(a ) whether Government have any

schem es orproposalto provide credit facili

ties and otherincentives to sm allfisherm en;

(b) if so. the deta ils thereof?



TRI) : (a ) Reserve Bank of india (RBI) hasreported that advances provided by com

mercia lbanksforfisheries arecoveredunder

PrioritySectoras activity allied to agriculture

and hence elig ible forvarious concessiona li

ties such asconcess ionalrateof interest and

Iiberalised m arginand security norm s .

(b ) RBIhas advised the banks that for

fisheries . need- based short term s loans

should be granted . The rate of interest forit

is as under:

(96perannum )

1

1

to

Term loans fora period ofnot less than3years to fisheries are available at the followingrates:

a) To sm a ll farm ers

b) To others

Margin should not be taken for loan

a"tauntupto Hs . i Forloans overth is

allh ount. the m arginwould very from 15% to

25 96. Banks should not take collateralsecu

”Wby way of m ortgage of land orth irdparty

(96perannum )

1

guarantee forloans upto RS . 10.000/where

m oveably assets are created.

Term loans are granted by banks for

developm ent of fisheries ina ll the aspects

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from fish catching to stage of export, finane

ing of equipm ent necessary for deep sea

fish ing. rehabilitation of tanks (fresh water

fishing) fish breeding . etc.

Decrease InExports From Kera la

10619. SHRIT. BASHEER: Will the

Minister Of C OMMERC E be pleased to

state:

(a ) whether there was a substantialdecrease inthe exports of various item from

Kera la during 1989- 90;

MAY 25 . 1990

(b) if so . the deta ils inth is regard; and

(c) the reasons forthe decrease?

(b) The deta ils of shortfallare indicatedbelow:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEMINISTRY OF C OMMERC E (SHRIARANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) There is substantial increase inoverall export of major

com m odities. from C och inPort and Trivan

drum Airport . However. therewas shortfallin

export of C ardam om . pepperand Tea .


(c) The reasons were :

Pepper: Poorcrop. late arri

val of the crop and

oversupply s ituation

in international m ar

ket.

C ardamom : Poor crop and h igh

dom estic prices .

Low production.

NMDC’

s Explorat ions

10620. SHRIN. DENNIS : Will the

Ministerof STEELANDMINES be pleased

to state:

(a ) whethertheNationalMinera lDevel

opmentC orporation(NMDC ) has undertaken

explorationwork forfinding m inera ls depos

its inthe last year; and

(b ) if so. the State-wise deta ils thereof?



TIC E (SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : (a ) Yes .

Sir.

(b) State -wise deta ils Of exploratory

work done byMMDC in1989 are as fo llows :

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Sett ing Up of a T.V. Relay Stat ionat

Pa ll

1062 1 . SHRIGUMAN MAL LODHA:

“fill the Minister of INFORMATION AND


(a ) whetherGovernm entpropose to set

Up a T.V. relay stat ionat Pali inRajasthan;and

(b ) if so. the tim e by which it is likely to

be set up?




UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b) .‘

A low power ( 100

W) TV transm itterhas a lready beenfunc

tioning at Pali inRajasthan s ince March .

1988.

Opening of P. l. B . Office At Bhubanesh

war

10622 . SHRIANANDl C HARANDAS :


BROADC ASTING be pleased to state :

(a ) whetherStateGovernm entofOrissa

has requested UnionGovernm ent to open

an office of the P. I.B . at Bubaneshwar

a longwith aninform ationcentre and Libraryinview of im portance of both C uttack and

Bhubaneshwaras new centres ; and

(b) if so , thedeta ils thereof andGovern

m ent’

s response thereto?




UPENDRA) : (a ) and (b) . Yes , S ir. Wh ile

stress ing theneedforthis . the StateGovern

m ent also offered to extend a llposs ible helpforthe irim m ediateopening . Keeping inview

the im portance of the city as a news centre.

a proposa l has been included inthe Vlllth


Plan. Its im plem entation depends onthe

ava ilability of resources .

Supply of Sm allerDenom inat ionNotes

by Banks

10623. SHRIY . S . RAJA SEKHAR

REDDY : Will the Ministerof FINANC E be

pleased to state :

(a) whetherthere is anydearth ofnotes

of sm allerdenom inations IITte Rs . 2 . Rs . 5.

Rs . 10etc. particularly innationa lised banks ;

(b) whethersom enationa lised banks in

New Delhi do not give currency notes below

Rs . 100 and custom ers particularly m iddle

class one are put to a lot of inconvenience;

and

(c) if so . the details thereof and the

rem edialsteps taken?


MINISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANIL SHASTRI) : (a ) Reserve Bank Of India (RBI) have

reported that there is no earth of no tes of

sm allerdenom inations like Rs . 2 . Rs . 5 and

Rs . 10 inthe nationalised banks .

(b) RBIhave stated that they have noinform ationthat som e nat iona lised banks in

New Delh i do not give currency notes be low

Rs . 100/

(0) Does not arise .

World Bank Lend ing Po licy

10624. SHRIY .S . RAJA SEKHAR

REDDY : “fill the Ministerof FINANC E be

pleased to state :

(a ) whetherthere is a sh ift inthe lend ing

policy ofWorld Bank ;

(b) if so . what are the changes ; and

417 Wri tenAnswers

(d) and (e) . Governm ent has proposed

to abolish the exist ing Gold ( C ontrol) Act.1968.

Recom m endations of Finance C om m is

s ionRegard ing Gulers t's Share

106 27 . SHRI PRAKASH KOKO

BM HMBHATT: Will the Minister of Pi

NANC E be pleased to state :

(a ) whetherthe State Governm ent of

G uja rat has po inted out that its share had

cont inuously declined from percent dur

ing the Seventh Finance C omm iss ionaward

to percent inthe Eighth Finance C om

m iss ionAward and fina lly reduced to per

cent in the Ninth Finance C om m iss ion’s

recom m endations ;

(b ) if so .whethertheStateGovernment

h a s po inted out that the award is unfavour

ab le to the State and also great injust ice has

beendone to the Governm ent of Gujarat's

s h are ; and

(c) the reactionof UnionGovernm entth ereto and the steps being taken in this

regard?


M INISTRYOFFINANC E (SHRIANILSHAS

TRI) : (a ) and (b) . The State Governm ent of

Guja rat have intim ated that they had po inted

out to the Ninth F inance C om m iss ionthat

theirshare inthe totaltransferof resources

has beendeclining .

(c) The Ninth Finance C om m iss ion

wh ile recom m ending the devolutionof te

sources to the StateGovernm entwould have

taken into account all the factors including

the representation of the Governm ent of

Gujaratwh ile m ak ing its recom m endations .


[Transla tion]

Advertisem ent to Deity Newspapers

10628. PROF . RASASINGHRAWAT:Wi ll the Ministerof lNFORMATlON AND


(a ) whetherGovernm ent propose to

revise the policy of giving advert isem ents to

the da ily newspapers ;

(b ) if so . the deta ils thereof; and

(c) the norm s adOpted forincluding the

newspapers (da ilies and weeklies ) in the

advertisement list?

THE MINISTER OF iNFORMATlON

ANDBROADC ASTINGANDMINISTEROFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P.

UPENDRA) : (a) and (b ) . Yes. S ir. The

recom mendations of the C om m ittee const i

tuted to go into the various aspects of the

advert is ing policy ofGovernm ent. areunderconsideration.

(c) Allthenewspapers wh ich apply and

fulfilandcriteria la id downintheAdvertising

Policy (as per statement givenbelow) are

cons idered forinclus ionInthe DAVP m edia

list .

STATEMENT

MINISTRY OF INFORMATIONANDBROADC ASTING

(Advertis ing Policy of the Governm ent of

‘

A’

Pream ble

TheD irectorate ofAdvertis ingand Visua l Publicity places

advert isem ents in various

newspapers/journa ls onbeha lf

on various Ministries and

MAY 25. 1990

Departm ents of the Governm ent of India . A num ber ofautonomous bodies and pub

licsectorenterprises channel

ise their advert is ing through

The prim ary objective ofGov

ernm ent advertis ing is to se

curewidestposs iblecoverage

through newspapers wh ich

circulate news or com m ents

on current affa irs and stan

dard journa ls onscience. art.

literature. sports . film s .cultural

affa irs etc.Whilegiving advertisem ents . politica l affiliations

or editoria l policies of the

publicationconcerned are not

taken into account . However.

advertisem ents would not be

issued to newspapers . jour

na is which incite or tend to

incite com munal pass ions .

preach violence. offend the

sovereignity and integrity of

India or socially accepted

norm s orpublic decency and

m orals .

'8

’

POLIC Y GUIDELINES :

Keeping inview Governm ent

Policy . Publicity requirem ents

and ava ilability of funds . a

ba lanced and equitable placing ofadvertisem ents is a im ed

at Governm ent advert ise

m ents are not intend to be a

m easure of financial ass is

tancetonewspapers/journals .

Inpursuance of broad social

objectives of the Governm ent

and inorderto ach ieve parity

of rate betweenvarious cate

gories of newspapers appro

priai s weightagecons ideration

m ay be givento :

Sm all and Mediu

pers/ journa ls

nica i journa ls

Language news

na is and

Newspapers/jou

lished especia lly i

rem ote and bord i

Sm all. Medium ar

papers/journa ls

rised as under:

Sm a ll

tionof or

sue.

Medium C irc

tween I

copies per issue .

Big C i l

above cc

sue.

Inselecting news

licat ions forplaci

m ent advert isem

lowing cons idera

takeninto accour

C overage Of rear

different walks of

larly incase of n;

pa igns .

Reaching specific

people dependin

m essage to be

Sm a ll and Medir.

pars willget m ajc

tion in m ot ivatic

campa igns .

MAY

ment m ay deem appropriate .

gigAdvert isem ent Rates

The rate structure forGovern

m ent advertisem ents will be

worked out by DAVP on the

bas is of the principles enunci

ated above . The DAVP will

enter into appropriate rate

contractswith individualnews

papers/journals .

[English 1

Inquiry into - Internat ional Fi lm Festiva l

forDocum entaries and Short Fi lm s ,

Bom bay

10629. SHRIM.J . RATHVA: Will the

Ministerof INFORMATIONAND BROAD


(a ) whether there have been com

pla ints of wastage of money and m ism an

agem ent during the week long Bom bay

Internat ional Film Festival forDocum enta

ries and Short Film s organised by the Film s

Divis ionduring February. 1990;

(b) if so . the deta ils thereof;

(c) whetherGovernm ent have ordered

any inquiry inthis regard; and

(d) if so. the outcom e thereof?




UPENDRA) : (a) Two newspaper articles

appeared inStatesm anandHindustanTim es

criticis ing the conduct of the Rim Festival

held at Bom bay . Th ese articles referred to

alledged m ism anagem ent and wastage of

money during the conduct of the fest iva l.

Otherthanthese two art icles there has been

long fest ival held at Bom bay .

In addition. over 50. prom inent film

personalities had. in a letter. appreciated

and congratulated the Film s Divisionforthis

Festival.

(b) The criticism s dealtwith hospitality

givento delegates . selectionof awards . lack

of publicity. poorqua lity of entries etc.

(d) Does not arise .

Rev is ionof Fi lm Po licy

10630. SHRIPRAKASHV. PATIL :Wi lltheMinisterofINFORMATIONANDBROAD


(a ) whetherGovernm ent are reviewingthe film po licy;

(b) if so . the m a infeatures of the pro

posed new film po licy ;

(c) whethertheNationa lFilm Developm ent C orporat ionis to be strengthenedunder

the new film policy ; and

Im ay also be mentioned that the Film

Festivalwas generally accla imed as a no

table success . Num erous articles appeared

in Indian as well as foreign newspapers

com m ending th is festival. It includes the

prestigious Holywood Reporter weekly.

m agaz inewhich com m ents of m atters relat

ing to film s around theworld.

(c) No form al inquirywas called for. The

compla intswere. however. looked into . Th ere

wasno excess expenditure incurredby Fi lm sDivis ion. As aga inst the sanct ioned budget

of Rs . 60lakhs . theoverallexpend iture is not

expected to go beyond Rs . 54 lakhs . it was

concluded that the fest ivalwas a reasonable

success and that most of the crit icism was

exaggerated.

425 Wri tenAnswers




PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P'

.

UPENDRA) : (a ) to (d) . The question of

formulationof a film policy is underconsid

oration. It is prem ature at present to indicate

detai s of the proposed film polIc/ and as to

whether the Nations Flm Deveioprnent

C orporat ion is to be strengthened and the

Discuss iononh ide -Us Econom icTrade

Relat ions

10631 SHRIMADANLALKHURANA:

M iltheMinisterof C OMMERC E bepleased

to state:

(a ) whether the attent ionof Govem

m ent has beendrawnto the news - item"US

Bus inessm en not impressed with India's

Prom ises'appearing inthe

‘

IndianExpress’

of 9 April. 1990;

(b) if'

so . thedeta ils of the talks held and

the reactionof theUS Bus inessmenthereto ;

(c) whethertherewere any compla ints

from U.S . bus inessmenregarding bureau

crat icdelays inIndia ; and

(d) if so . the steps takenorproposed to

be takenInth is regard?



ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) Yes . Sir.

(b) A m eet ing of indo-US Joint Busi

nose C ouncilwas held on5th and 6th April.

1990 inWashington. Th is was participated

in by leaders of bus iness and industry on

both s ides . Theydiscussed m atters of inter

es t and made jo int recom m endat ions . on: ( i)Technology transfer. ( ii ) Ind ianinvestment

and jo int ventures laws ( i ii) Bilatera l trade.


The JBC was addressed by senioroffi

cials of Governm ent of India who expla inedvarious aspects of India

’

s econom ic poli

(d) C auses of procedural delay are

being continuous ly mon‘

xored and remedia l

measures taken.

SHRIY .S . RAJASEKHAR

REDDY :WIIIthe Ministerof FINANCE be

pleased to state:

(a ) whetherReserve Bank of India has

agreed to release more funds forprocure

m ent of cotton; and

(b) . If so, the deta ils thereof?


MINISTRYOF- FINANC E (SHRIANILSHAS

TRI) : (a ) and (b) . Reserve Bank of India has

reported that credit requirem ents for pro

curem ent of cottonare fully m et subject to

the bas ic condition that credit drawn Is

matched by the value of stocks .

Libera lisat ionof Farm s Trade by DEC D

10633. SHRIKAILASH MEGHWAL :IMIItheMinisterof C OMMERC E bepleased

to state:

(3 ) whetherthe Ib eralisationof Farm

Trade byOECD (OrganisationforEconom ic

C ooperation and Development) countries

(c) Inhis speechMr. DonaldM. Kendall.

C o - C ha irm an of the JBC referred to the

bureaucracy Ingeneral term s and empha

steed the need to de- regulate and Ib erallse

econom ies . No specific com plaints were

raised during the JBC m eeting . Therewere

references generally to delays inherent in

governm ent procedures .

Obituary

have anadverse effect onIndia’

s plans for

agriculturaladvance. particularly inthe Food

Process ing sector;

(b)whethersuch liberalisationwillchoke

off ourexport avenues which is the m ajor

plank of ourfood process ing plans ;

(c) whetherGovernm ent have devel

oped a lternative plans to m eet the contin

gency; and

(d) if so . the deta ils thereof?



ANGIL SREEDHARAN) : (a ) No , S ir. Liber

a lisationof Farm s Trade by theOEC D coun

tries is expected to have a beneficialeffect

onexport of agriculturalproducts including

processed agricultura l products to these

countries .

(b ) No . S ir.


(d) Does not arise.

1 hrs .

OBITUARY REFERENC E

[English ]

MR. SPEAKER: Hon'ble Mem bers . it is

with deep sense of sorrow that Ihave to

inform the House of the sad dem ise of Shri

K .S . Hegde. form erSpeakerof this august

House from July 1977 to January 1980. Shri

Hegde represented the Bangalore South

constituency of the State of Karnataka . He

was elected as Speaker. Lok Sabha . on2 1st

July. 1977 . Earlier. he had beena m em ber

of Rajya Sabha from 1952 to 1957 .

MAY 25 . 1990

Adistinguished juristanderudite scholar.Shri Hegdewas a judge of theHigh C ourt of

Mysore from 1957 to 1966 . Hewas the C h ief

Just ice of Delh i andHim acha lPrades h High

C ourt during 1966- 67. He served as a judge

of the Suprem e C ourt of India during 1967

73.

Apart from adorning the high office of

Speaker. he served onvarious C om m ittees

of both the Houses . He was also a m em ber

of Panel of C ha irm an inRajya Sabha and

was the C ha irm anof the C om m itteeof Privi

leges of this House .

He was alternate delegate to the Ninth

Sessionof the United Nat ions in1954 and

served onits Second C om m ittee .

As a Speakerof th is House. his obser

vat ions anddecis ions havebeenof im m ens e

help to success ive Speakers .

Shri Hegde passed away on 24 May

1990at this native place inKarnataka at the

age of 81 .

THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRIVISH

WANATHPRATAPSINGH) :We share your

sentim ents regard ing Shri K.S . Hegde .

At th is m om ent. we share thegrief of h is

fam ily and pray to God that they have the

strength to face this tragedy .

PROF . N.G . RANGA (Guntur) : l asso

Hewas a persons of great learning and

great ins ight inthe judicial system . He had

acted as C h ief Just ice of Delhi High C ourt

andHim acha lHigh C ourt . And by h iswrit ing

and publications he has contributed to the

understanding of theproblem s of the judicia l

system . As Speaker he has set trad itions

that will be the guiding path for tim es to

com e . And inhim we have lost a persons of

great learning. understanding and patriot

Ism .

Obituary MAY

[Sh . Somnath C hatterjee]

one of the beacon lights in the branch of

jurisprudence. As a Speaker. we have a lso

had the privilege of knowing him as one of

the m ost distinguished and fa ir Speakers

who conducted the deliberations -of th is

House with great appropriateness . No sec

tionof theHouse had'theneverfelt that there

was any Mem berwho was not allowed to

have views expressed in the House . He

treated everyone alike . lwas thenthe C ha ir

m anof one of the ParlIam entary C om m it

tees and onoccasions Ihad opportunity to

discuss m atters with h im and Ifound him

helpfulandconstructive inhis suggestions .

Icannot forget those days . Onbehalf of m y

Partyand m yself, Iaga inexpress ourcondo

lence and oursym path ies to the m em bers of

h is fam ily .

SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE

(Panskura ) : S ir. Iassociate m yself and all

the m em bers of ourParty with the observa

tions already m ade by m yprevious speakersonthe sad dem ise of Shri K.S . Hagos .

S ir. Idid not have have the privilege

personally towork with h im . but Ihave heard

from others about h is ability as a Speaker

com ing from h is juridical background into

this world. wh ich is very im portant in my

Opinion.

Anotherth ing is . Iheard that he was a

personofgreat integrity . Ibelieve also that in

today's set up that is one of the things which

we m ust rem em bers and emulate.

With these words Iexpress m y deep

condolenceandalsoconveythatto his fam ily .

DR. THAMBI DURAI (Karur) : Mr.

Speaker. S ir. it is a very great Shock to know

from youthat ourform erSpeaker. Shri K .S .

Hegde is no m ore . Just now ourPrim e Min

ister. Prof. Ranga . Mr. Advani and m y other

colleagues sa id about h im . how he rendered

On behalf of m y party AIADMK and

m yself. Iofferourcondo lences throughyou

to the bereaved fam ily.

We arevery very sorry and Iexpressml'

deep sorrow and condolence . Onmybelt“

andonbehallofm yparty. theMuslim L089“

h is service not only inthe jud icialfield. butalso in politica l life . He upheld justice 11

juridical system , and in the sam e wayhe

upheld justice inpolitica llife a lso . Heheaded

this House ina crucia l period in 1977 and

also as anem inent Speaker. he handledtho

Housevery carefully and a lso he servedin

good m anner; as ourRanga jrsa id . heraised

a lot of questions inthe Ra jya Sabha a id

also inthe Lok Sabha . Hewas a championof

agriculturists . Also . as a judicial manhe

rendered good justice. He is not morewi ll

us l

SHRINANI BHATTAC HARYA (Bor

hampore) : S ir, onbehalf of m yself andmyGroup. Iofferourcondolences onthedo

m ise of Mr. Hegde . Ishare the views ex

pressed here by m y othercolleagues ard

also Ioffer my deep condolences to the

fam ily of Shri Hegde .

SHRI IBRAHIM S ULAIMAN SAIT

(Manjeri) :Mr. Speaker. S ir. Iassociatemysel

with the sentim ents expressed by you, the

Prim eMinisterand othercolleagues regard

ing the pass ing away Of Shri Hegde,who

was the formerSpeakerof Lok Sabha lam

deeply grieved at his dem ise . Imust saylhfll

hewas apersonof high qua lit ies of headand

heart , of integrity and character. He had

d istinguished h im self inthe judicia lfieldand

he was not only a Judge of the High Cowls

of Karnataka and Delhi . but a lso becarrtea

Judge of the Suprem e C ourts later. Hewas

the Speakerof th is Lok Sabha in1977and|

had thegoodfortune to be here inLokSzrblla

at that tim e . He conducted the proceedings

of the Lok Sabha inanadm irable manual

and m a inta ined the dignity of th is House.


l convey my condolence to the entire be

reaved fa nily andpray that his soulm ay resti t peace .

PROF . SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla ) :Mr. Speaker. onmy behalf and onbehalf of

my Party . Ifully associate myself with the

feei ngs expressed by the hon. Prim eMinis

ter. yougoodseii . Prof . Rangaji and others .

Although Ihad the privilege of hearingh is Shri Hegde as a leaderof opinion. Ihad

not had the privilege of knowing h im as the

Speakerof this House .

S ir, we keep discuss ing about the per

sonal'

nies who have held th is high office in

the C entralHall. WhatIheard about lateShriHegdewas that hewas a very boldpersons .

whenhe funct ioned as a Judge andwhenhe

functioned as the Speaker. of this august

House. Ihave heard that som etim es . the

jurists and legal lum inaries who were drawntohigh offices work invery tight jackets . The

otherunique quality inMr. Hegde that Ihaveheard was that he was not very rigid on

issues . He had a very great senseof accomnodationandunderstanding andhebroughtcredit to th is h igh Office. Ipay m y deepest

condolences to the bereaved fam ily .

KUMARI MAYAWATI (BIjnor) : Mr.

Speaker, S ir. the hon. Prime Minister and

some seniorhon. Mem bers have apprised

theHouse ofShriHegde’

s ability andgentlertoss. though not ingreat deta il. Iha ve nei

t herheard him norleverhad theopportunityto see him . but whateverlittle Iknow about

h im is based onthe inform at ionprovided bynewspapers and periodica ls .

On behalf of m y party and m yself Ideeply mournhis dem ise .

SHRIC HIT'

TA BASU (Barasat) : Mr.

aker. Ijo iny‘

ou. the Leaderof theHouse

MR. SPEAKER: We deeply mourntheloss of this friend and Iam sure that the

Housewilljoinm e inconveyingourheart- feltcondolences to the bereaved fam ily.

TheHouse m aynow stand ins ilence for

a short whi le as a m ark of respect to the

departed soul.

(The Mem bers thenstood ins ilence fora

MR. SPEAKER: TheHousenowstands

adjourned to m eet at 11 O'clock onMonday.

the 28th May. 1990.

1 hrs .

The Lok Sabha thenadjourned tillEleven

of the C lock onMonday . May 28. 1990/

Jya istha 7. 1912 (Sake)

Printed at S . Narayan Sons . Delh i- 6 .

and other distinguished Members of th is

augustHouse topaymy tributeto thememoryof Shri K.S . Hegde. the form erSpeakerof

this House . As youhave m ent ioned. he was

one of the lum inaries of indianjudiciary. He

functioned as Judge IndifferentHigh C ourts

inourcountry and ultim ately he was ele

vetad to the pos ition of the Judge of the

Suprem e C ourts of India . He delved deepinto the judicial system and he also wrote a

book ent itled'Th e C risis of Judiciary

’

. He

was anable parliamentarian. As youhave

been kind enough to m ent ion. he was a

Mem berof the Rajya Sabha and a Mem berof th is House and served m any Parliamen

tary C om m ittees . with h is rare qualities .

S ir. Ihad the rare privilege to serve thisHouse in1977 underhis able Speakership.

Irecollect som e s ignificant com m ents whichfellfrom his lips . wh ich was a greatwisdom

to the entire House. He also delivered veryim portant rulings wh ich constituted a land

m ark ih the h istory of the parliamentary

pract ices inourcountry . Ideeply mournh isdem ise and express m y heartfelt condo

lences to the bereaved fam ily .

C OLuurIs

( i ii) Need to set up industries based ontale- com munication

network inBihar

Shri Manjay La l

( iv) Need to electrify ra ilway line betweenRanaghat Bongaon

Section

Dr. As im Ba la

(v) Need to provide financial ass istance to BiharGovernm ent

forboring tubewells inJahanabad and Gaya districts to

cope with drinking waterproblem there

Shri Ram ashray Prasad S ingh

(vi ) Need forclearance of the gas- based projects to m eet the 49—50

esca lating powerdem ands of Madhya Pradesh

Shri Madhavrao Scindia

(VII) Need to set up a C olourPhoto Film Project at Majkhali

inAlm ora

Shri Harish Rawat

nstitution(Scheduled C astes ) Orders (Am endm ent) Bill 50— 110

As Passed by Rajya Sabha

Motionto cons ider

Shri Ram Vilas Paswah

Shri K.S . Rao

Prof . Ram Ganesh Kapsa

Shri C hand Ram

Shri Eduardo Fale iro

Shri Kalra Das

Kum ari Mayawati

Shri G .M. Banatwa lla

Shri JagpalS ingh

Shri Prem Pradeep

Shri M. Selvarasu

Shri Hukumdeo NarayanYadav

Shri Gopi Nath Gajapath i

Shri S . Banjam in

o ns t itution (S ixty—Eighth Am endm ent ) B ill

Motionto consider

) iscuss ionUnderRule 193

Shri Ram Vilas Paswa

Prof .“

N.G . Ranga

Shri Santosh Bhart iya

Shri Resham LalJangde

Shri MatilalHansda

Shri Ram SejIwan

S ituationaris ing out of the C yclonic Storm s inthe Bay of Bengal

and the relief m easures undertakenby the C entralGovernm ent

and Gvernm ents Of Andhra Pradesh . Tam ilNaduand Union

Territory of Pondicherry

ShrIK . S . Rao

C OLUMNS

68— 69

72— 74

74—84

86— 90

91— 93

93— 95

95— 101

101— 102

102— 106

1 10— 143

1 10— 122

122— 126

126— 130

130— 135

135— 140

141— 143

143— 200

143— 149

Shri Eh . VIjayekum arRaju

Shri Kusum a Krishna Murthy

Shri J anardanYadav

Shri Lokanath C houdhury

Prof . M. C . Ranga

Shri A.N. S ingh Deo

Shri Gopi Nath Gajapath i

Shri A. Vijayaraghavan

Shri J . C hokka Rao

Shri A. Venkata Reddy

S hri Ba lgopa lMishra

Shri BaSavapunna iah S ingam

Shri P . Marsa Raddy

Dr th swanatham

Shri S . Benam in

Shri Dasa i C howdhary

Shri Sye d MasudalHossa in

Shri Nit ish Kum ar

C OLUMNS

149— 153

153— 158

159— 161

16 1— 163

164— 165

165 — 168

168— 171

171— 173

1 74— 176

176— 177

177— 180

180— 184

184— 185

185— 187

187— 200

Papers La id MAY 28 . 1990 Papers La id

Governm ent ontheworking ofthe Industria l Developm entBankofInd ia fortheyear198889. [Placed inLibrary . SeeNO .

LT.

Trans la tion]

Annua l Report and Review onAll India

Handloom Fabrics Market ing C orporationSociety Ltd . Delh i for

.

1988- 89 and of

Nat iona l Inst itute of Fash ion Techno logy,NewDelh i and Statem ent re-delay In

Laying these Papers

THE MINISTER OF TEXTILES ANDMINISTER OF FOOD PROC ESSING IN

DUSTRIES (SHRISHARAD YADAV) : i bagto lay onthe Table ;

( 1 ) ( i) A copy of the Annual Report

(Hindi and English vers ions)of the All India Handloom

FabricsMarketing C ooperativeSociety L im ited. Delh i , fortheyear 1988- 89 a long with Au

dited Accounts .

A copy of the Review (Hindiand English vers ions ) by theGovernm entontheworkingofthe All India Handloom Fab

rics Marketing C ooperative

Society Lim ited. Delhi . fortheyear 1988- 89 . [Placed in

Library . SeeNO . LT.

(2 ) ( i) A copy of the Annua l Report

(Hindi and English vers ions )of the National Institute of

Fash ion Techno logy , New

Delh i. for the year 1988- 89

along with Audited Accounts .

(II) A copy of the Review (Hindiand English vers ions ) by theGovernm entontheworking ofthe NationalInstitute of Fashion Technology . New Delhi ,forthe year 1988- 89.

(3) A statem ent (Hindi and English

vers ions ) showing reasons fordelay inlay ing the papers m ent ionedat (2 ) above . [Placed in L ibrary .

SeeNo . LT

[English]

Annua l report of and review on Gov ind

Ba llabh Pant Paryavaran Evam Vlkas

Sansthan, for1988- 89 and statem ent re.

delay Inlaying these Papers

THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENTAND FOREST (SHRI NILAMANI

ROUTRAY) : Ibeg to lay onthe Table :

( i) A copy of the Annua l Report

(Hindi and English vers ions)of the Govind Ba llabh PantHim alaya Paryavaran Eyam

Vikas Sansthan for the year

1988- 89 along with Audited

Accounts .

(II) A copy of the Review (Hindiand English vers ions ) by theGovernm ent onthework ingofthe Govind Ballabh Pant

Him alaya Paryavaran Eyam

Vikas Sansthan for the year1988- 89.

(2 ) A statem ent (Hind i and Eng lish

vers ions ) showing reasons fordelay inlay ing the papers m ent ionedat (1 ) above. [Placed in Lrb rary .

See NO . LT.

Annua l Report of and review onInst itute

of C onst itut ionaland Parliam entary stud

Ies , New Delh i, for1988-89 and a sta te

m ent re. delay Inlaying these papers

THEMINISTEROFSTEELANDMINESAND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTIC E

(SHRIDINESHGOSWAMI) : lbeg to lay onthe Table

( i ) A copy of the Annual Report

(Hindi and English vers ions )oftheInstituteofC onstitutional

and Parliam entary Stud ies .


New Delhi . forthe year198889 along with Audited Ao

counts .

(II) A statem ent (Hindi and English vers ions ) regarding Re

view by the Government onthe working of the Institute of

C onstitutiona land Parliam en

tary Studies . New Delh i. forthe year1988- 89.

(2 ) A statem ent (Hindi and English

vers ions ) showing reasons for

delay in lay ing the papers m en

tioned at ( 1 ) above. [Placed in

Library . See No . LT.- 1008190]

Statem ent correct ing reply g iven on

to U.S .O . No . 8472 regard ingh st ltute of m ateria l science and L i feScience and Statem ent re. reasons for

delay Incorrect ing the reply


MINISTRY OF SC IENC EANDTEC HNOLOGY (PROF . M.G .K. MENON) : Ibeg to layonthe Table a statem ent (Hindi and Englishvers ions ) ( i) correct ing the reply g ivenon14May . 1 99010 UnstarredQuest ionNo . 8472

by S hri Basavapunna iah S ingam . M.P.

’

re

ga rd ing Inst itutes of Material Science and

Life Science and (II) g iving reasons fordelayin correct ing the reply. [Placed in Library .

See No . LT.

- 1009190]

Annua l report of and review onInst itute

of Applied ManpowerResearch, New

Delh i , for1988- 89


MINISTRY OF SC IENC EANDTEC HNOLOGY (PROF . M.G .K. MENON) : Onbeha lfofShri BhageyGobardhan, Ibeg to lay ontheTable

( 1 ) Acopy of the AnnualReport (Hindiand English vers ions ) of the Insti

tute of Applied Manpower Re

search . new Delh i. for the year1988- 89 a long with Audited Ao

counts .

(2 ) A copy of the Review (Hindi and

Papers La id

English vers ions ) by the Governm ent onthework ing of the Institute

of Applied Manpower Research .New Delh i. for the year 1988- 89 .

[Placed in Library . See No . LT.

Not i fica tionunder Export (Duality C ontro landInspection) Act 1963;Reviewandreport of Ind ia tea and Restaurants Ltd. .

Bom bay. for1987- 88 and a statem ent re.

delay In lay ing these papers ; Annual

report etc. of and review onTea Board,C a lcutta for1988- 89 and a statem ent re.

delay Inlay ing these papers


MINISTRY OF C OMMERC E (SHRIARANGILSHREEDHARAN) : lbag to layontheTable

( 1 ) Acopy each of the following Notification(Hindi and English vers ions )undersub- section(3) of section17of the Export (Qua lity C ontrol andinspection) Act . 1963:

( i) TheExport InspectionAgencyDeath -cum - Retirem entGratU

ity (Am endm ent) Rules . 1990

published inNotifications No .

518 inGazette of Indiadated the2sth February. 1990.

TheExport InspectionC ouncil

Death -cum - Retirem entGratu

ity (Am endm ent) Rules. 1990

published inNot ificat ionNo .

519 inGazette of India

dated the25th February. 1990.

[Placed in Library. See No .

LT.

Acopyeachofthefollowing papers

(Hindi and English versions ) undersub- sect ion(1 ) of section619A of

the C om panies Act . 1956 :

( i) Reviewby theGovernm entonthe work ing of the India Tea

and Restaurants L im ited .

Bom bay . fortheyear1987- 88.

(II) AnnualReportof the IndiaTea

MAY 28 . 1990

and Restaurants L im ited .

Bom bay . forthe year1987- 88

a lon'

g with-Audited Accounts

and com m ents of the C om ptroller and Auditor General

thereon.

(3) A statem ent (Hindi and Englishvers ions ) showing reasons fordelay inlaying the papers m ent ioned

at (2 ) above. [Placed inLibrary . See

No . LT.

A copy of the Annua l Report

(Hindi and English vers ions )of theTea Board. C a lcutta . for

the year1988- 89.

Acopy of theAnnua lAccounts

(Hindi and English vers ions )of theTea Board. C alcutta . for

theyear1988- 89 togetherwith

Audit Report thereon.

( i ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi

and English vers ions ) by theGovernm entontheworking ofthe Tea Board. C alcutta . for

the year1988- 89.

(5) A statem ent (Hindi and Englishvers ions ) Showing reasons forde

lay inlaying the papers m entioned

at (4) above . [Placed in Library .

See No . LT.

Transla tion]

Not ifica t ionunder C entra l Exclses and

Sa lt Act 1944. Incom e Tax Act 1961 .

C ustom s Act, 1962. Am endm ent to regu

lat ion22 of Reserve Bank of Ind ia Gen

eral Regulat ions 1949. C onso lidated

Report o f the work ing of Public Sect ionBanks for to 31 and annual

report o f and review on Industria l FI

nance corporation of India for 1988-89

and Report of C .A.G . of Ind ia for year

ending31 —Municipalcorporat ionof

Delh i


MADHU DANDAVATE) : i . onbeha lf of ShriAnil Shastri . beg to lay onthe Table :

(I) Acopy each of the fo llowing Notifications (Hindi andEnglish versions)undersub- section(2 ) of section38

of the C entralExcises and SaltAct.

1944:

(V)

G .S .R. 797(E) published i tGazetteof India dated the31stAugust . 1989 togetherwithan

explanatory m em orandum re

garding paym ent of duties of

Excise onthe S teelBeadWrre

Rings used in the m anufac

ture of C ycle/C ycle Rikshaw

tyres .

G .S .R. 418(E) published i t

Gazette ofIndia datedthe3oth

March . 1990 togetherwith an

explanatory m em orandum

m ak ing certa in am endments

to Not ificat ionNo .

- C E

dated the 1st March . 1986 so

as to insert S . No . 17A inthe

proviso thereto .

G .S .R. 4S3(E) published in

Gazette of India dated thezod

April. 1990 together with an


m ak ing certa in am endments

to the Not ificat ionNo . 175/86

C EDated the 1stMarch .1986

G .S .R. 950(E) published itGazette of India dated the 1stNovem ber, 1989 togetherwith

anexplanatory m em orandumregarding duty of Excise on

parts of Stat ionary Batirlas for

m anufacturing/assem bly of

com plete Stationary Batteries

at S ite wh ich was not beinglevied priorto 81h May. 1984.

G . S .R. 1018(E) published in

Gazetteof India dated the201h

Novem ber. 1989 togetherw'

th

anexplanatory m em orandum

regarding duty of excises on

build ing m ateria ls m anufac

luredat the s ite ofconstruction

of building foruse at such site.

(V)

(Vi)

(vi ii)

MAY 28 . 1990

March . 1990 togetherwith an

explana tory m em orandum

m ak ing certa in am endm ents

to Not ificationno .

- C us . .

dated the 2othMarch . 1990so

as to prescribe bas ic custom sof 100 percent on all item s

otherthanpolysulphones .

G .S .R. 400(E) published inGazetteofIndia datedthe27thMarch . 1990 togetherwith an


m ak ing certa in am endm ents

to Notification No .

C us . . dated the 20th March

1990so as to perm it two more

specified item s at a conces

s iona l rate of 25 percent ad

valorem forpassengers ava il

ing concess ions .

The Baggage (Am endm ent)Rules . 1990published inNotifica tionNo . G .S .R. 4OI(E) inGazetteofIndiadatedthe27thMarch . 1990 togetherwith an

explanatory m em orandum .

The Transfer of Res idence

(Am endm ent) Rules 1990

published inNot ificatIonNo .

G .S .R. 402 (E) inGazette of

India dated the 27th March .

1990togetherwith anexplana

tory m em orandum .

S .O . 2GO(E) published in

Gazetteof India datedthe27thMarch. 1990 togetherwith an


regarding revised rates of ex

change forconvers ionof cer

ta in foreign currencies into

Indiancurrency orvice- versa .

G .S .R. 4OS(E) and G .S .R.

406 (E) published inGazetteof India dated the 281h March .


tory m emorandum seek ing to

exem pt goods tem porarily

00

Papers La id

im ported under ATA C arnet

for display or use in exhrb i

tions . fa irs . m eetings and s im i

larevents from the whole of

the bas ic. add itional and aux

iliary dut ies of custom s .

G .S .R. 42 1 (E) published inGazetteofIndia dated the3othMarch . 1990 togetherwith an

explanatory m emorandum

m aking certa in am endm ents

tonot ificationNo .

- C us

dated the 2oth March. 1990.

G .S .R. 419(E) and G .S .R.

420(E) published inGazetteof India dated the 3oth March .


tory m em orandum seeking to

exem pt raw m ateria ls and

com ponentswhenimported for

m anufactureof specifiedprod

ucts forsupply to hundred percent exportorientedundertak

ings orfree trade zones from

the whole of the bas ic. add i

tiona l and aux iliary duties of

C ustom s .

G . S .R. 422 (E) published in

Gazetteof India dated thesothMarch . 1990 togetherwith an


garding exem ption to goods

im ported into India aga inst an

advance Licence from the

whole of the bas ic and add i

tich a i duties of C ustom s Ievi

able thereon.

G .S .R. 423(E) published in

GazetteofIndiadate'

d the3oth

March. 1990 togetherwith an


garding exemption to goods

im ported into India aga inst a

BlanketAdvanceLicencefrom

the whole of the bas ic and

additiona l duties of C ustom s

Ieviable thereon.

(5 )

(7)

JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) Message from R S .

G .S .R. 424(E) published inGazetteofIndia datedthe3othMarch . 1990 togetherwith an


m aking certa in am endm ents

to the NotificationNo .

C us . . dated the 2oth March .

1990. [Placed in Library SeeNo . LT- 1016190]

A copy of anam endm ent to Regulat ion22 of Reserve bank Of India

Genera l Regulations . 1949 (Hindi

a nd English vers ions ) published inGazette of India dated the 22nd

Apri l. 1989undersub- section(4) of

section58 of the Reserve Bank of

India Act. 1934. [Placed inLibrary .

See No . LT

Acopy of the C onsolidated Report

(Hindi and English vers ions ) of thework ing of the PublicSectorBanksforthe period from the 1st January .1988 10 31st March . 1989. [PlacedinLibrary . 89 9 No . LT

A copy of the Annual Report

(Hindi and English vers ions )of the Industrial Finance C or

porationof India for the year1988- 89 along with the state

m ent Showing the Assets and

Liabilities and Profit and LossAccounts of the C orporation

under sub- section (3) of section35oftheIndustrialFinanceC orporat ionAct . 1948.

(II) A copy of the Review (Hindiand English vers ions ) by theGovernm ent ontheworking ofthe Industria l Finance C orporat ionof India fortheyear198889. [Placed inLibrary . See No .

LT

A copy of the Report (Hindi andEnglish vers ions ) of the C om ptrollerandAuditorGeneralof India forthe year ended the 3i st March ,1989 (No . 4 of 1990)— Municipa l

C orporat ionof Delh i underart icle151 ( 1 of the C onstitution. [PlacedinLibrary . See No . LT

hrs .

MESSAGE FROM RAJYA SABHA

SEC RETARY-GENERAL : S ir. Ihave toreport the following m essage received from

the Secretary-Genera lof Ra jya Sabha :

‘

Iam directed to inform the Lok Sabhathat the Rajya Sabha at its s itt ing heldonMonday . the 14i hMay. 1990. adOpted

the following m ot ion in regard to the

Jo int C om m ittee onOffices of Profit :

“That this House concurs inthe rec

om m endationof the Lok Sabha that a

Jo int C om m ittee of the Houses to be

ca lled the Jo int C om m itteeonOfficesof Profit be constituted for the pur

poses set out inthe motionadopted

by the Lok Sabha at its s itting heldon

the 23rd March . 1990 and resolves

that th is House do jOIn in the sa id

Jo int C om m ittee and proceed to elect .in accordance with the system of

proportiona lrepresentationby m eansof the s ingle transferable vote . five

m em bers from am ong the m em bers

oftheHouse to serveonthe sa idJo intC om m ittee .

”

2 . Iam furtherto inform the Lok Sabha

that inpursuance of the above m otion. the

following m em bers of theRajya Sabha havebeenduly elected to the sa id C om m ittee:

SardarJ agj it S ingh Aurora

Shri Anand Prakash Gautam

Shri Ta lari Prakash Manohar

Shri MakhanLa lFotedar

Shri Sontosh Kum arSahu.

Report of C om m . onpay etc. MAY 28 .1990

of S C S . of Houses ofparl.

1 1 .04 hrs .

C OMMITTEE OF PARLIAMENT ON THE

PENDING MATTER OF THE SC ALE OF

PAY AND C ONNEC TED MATTERS IN

RESPEC TOF THE SEC RETARIES -GEN

ERAL OF HOUSEOF PARLIAMENT

Report

[English]

SEC RETARY-GENERAL : Ibeg to layon the Table a copy of the Report of the

C om m ittee of Parliam ent on the pending

m atter of the sca le of pay and connected

m atters inrespect of the Secretaries-Gen

era lof Rajya Sabha and Lok Sabha .

SHRINIRMAL KANTIC HATTERJEE

(Dumdum ) : Mr. Speaker. now the report of

the C om m ittee underitem no . 10 has been

la id on the Table Of the house . It is most

unfortunate that m any Part ies and Groups

have not been consulted . The m atter of

Secretary -Genera ls em olum ents is the

concernof the ent ire Parliam ent . It brings in

and involves the prestige of Parliam ent in

relationto otherservices inthe country . We

are not aware. norare m any of theGroups in

the House aware of th is . What we want is .

before the report is im plem ented. th is should

be intim ated to all Mem bers of different

Parties/Groups (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER:The Secretariatcannot

be discussed here .

(Interruptions)

PMBR C om m . Report

hrs .

C OMMITTEEONPRIVATE MEMBER'S

BILLS ANDRESOLUTIONS

Minutes

[Eng/ish]

SHRISHIVRAJ V. PATIL (Latur) : Ibegto lay onthe Table Minutes (Hindi and English vers ions ) of the First to S ixth S itt ing of

the C om m ittee on Private Mem bers’

B ills

and Resolut ions held during the current

sess ion.

[English]

MR. SPEAKER:ShriBabanrao Dhakne.

Shri A. C harles .

(Interruptions )

PROF . SAIF-UD-DIN:SOZ (Baram ulla ) :

S ir. Ihave to say som eth ing very im portant

abut the statem ent of the Hom e Minister.

MR. SPEAKER: Iwillcom e to you.

SHRIVASANTSATHE (Wardha ) : S ir. I

would like to ra ise with yourperm iss ion a

very im portant m atter relating to the deterio

rat ionof condit ions inPunjab . Only the other

day. we learnt that once aga ininthe Go lden

Tem ple. people have gone inwith arm s . All

the holocaust and catastrophe in Punjab

m a inlybeganbyconverting theGurudawa ras

into fortresses , if you rem em ber. Arm ed

people go ins ide and build up so ca lled

castles there. from where thenthe attacks on

the people outs ide get launched and the

m ost soph isticated arm s being collected .

MAY 28 . 1990

[Sh . Dinesh Singh]

suspended ins inuations is neithergood for

the dem ocratic functioning of the countrynorforthe relationsh ip betweenthe oppos itionand the Governm ent . And therefore. we

have beenpleading with the Governm entthat whetherit is papers connectedwith the

Bofors . whetherj t is papers connected with

theAirbus .whetherit is term s of referenceof

inquiry onMeham . these papers m ust be

placed onthe Table of the House. If these

papers'are not placed onthe Table of the

House. the Governm ent canhardly expectcooperation from us inthe pass ing of the

Bills that theypropose to bring inthe House .

Therefore. Ishould like to m ent ionverycate

gorica lly that the cooperat ioncanbe that

only if both s ides cooperate. It cannot be an

expectationfrom one s idewithout taking into

account the dem ands and the requests ofthe others ide. Therefore. if theGovernm entwish that we participate inth is extended

term and ass ist them inthe pass ing of the

Bills . then these papers must be im m edi

ately placed onthe Table of the House . Wehave a lready g ivenfourdays notice to theGovernm ent . There is no difficulty incollecting these papers . But if they are not placedinall hum ility . Iwould like to m entionto theHouse that they would force US not to cooperatewith them inthe pass ing of these Bills .

(Interruptions)

Transla tion]

SHRIL .K. ADVANI (New Delh i) : Mr.

Speaker, S ir, Ibeing perhaps theonly S indh iSpeaking personinthe house. confirm Shri

D inesh S ingh‘

s assert ionthat the develop

m ents of S indhi are very serious .

MR. SPEAKER Mr. Advani , Sindhi

Language is included its intheVlllth SchedUle of the C onst itut ion. inthat way allof us

are related to S indhi Language .

SHRIL .K . ADVANI: Iknow that a llof ushad contributed inthe inclus ionof S indhi intheVllth Schedule . TheGovernm entof Indiaor India would not like to interfere in the

interna l affa irs of Pakistan. But we have to

keep inviewthat the developm entsofBangladesh had greatly affected ourcountryandult im ately we had to invo lve ourselves ao

tively there . The happenings of Sindh indi

cate that due to its interna lproblems. PairiStanis m eddling inourKashm irand Punjabaffa irs . The Situat ion is

‘

explos ive to such

extent that withina day 120 persons were

killed inS indhwh ich is a sm a llprovince.The

developm ents in Sindh m ay have greater

im pact inouradjoining reg ions ofRajasthanandKatch and inthewholeofourcountry.So

we have to bevery cautious inourapproach.

At the sam e tim e India sha ll continue its

diplom atic efforts to com pel Pakistanto

prevent if from interfering into the affairs.

Kashm irand Punjab. We should give ahint

aswellas a warning to the rulers ofPakistan

to refra infrom indulg ing in h is adventurism

and m ak ing our interna l affa irs aninterna

tiona l issue to coverUp its interna lproblems.

Secondly . Iwant to say that theGovernm ent. should apprise inthe Parliam entofthe

S ituat ion that has been preva iling Punjabduring the last 6 m onths . In 1984 a white

PaperonPunjab was issued. Th ereafter.

there has beenm any incidents . Iam very

sorry to saythat the m igrationwh ich hasnow

beguninPunjab a lso is a s ignof deteriora

tionof the s ituation. TheGovernm ent should

inform theHouseof allthe facts abutPunjab.

inthe last few days the s ituat ionhas further

deterioratedb ecause of the frequentcases

of kid-napping and ransom . Ith ink. these

incidents arem ored isturbing thanthatcases

of murderand violence .

Last week. Im yself vis ited Aboharand

m et the people of that sm a llTehs ile a The

p00p| 6 from there cam e to m eet me. M

toldm e thatwithina m onth ransom sofaboul

rupees one and ha lf crore to two crores had

beenpa id to secure release of kidnapped

persons inthatTehs il. These are theserious

s ituat ions preva iling there . the Govemmenl

should take the Parliam ent into confidence

and bring out a second wh ite -

paperwhich

should indicate the facts not m entioned in

the fresh wh ite -

paperand a lso details how

Pak istanis interfering inKashm ir.

PMBR

SHRIDASAIC HOWDHARY (Rosera ) :Mr. Speaker. S ir, Iassociate m yself withwhat has beensa id by Shri Dinesh S ingh J iand S hri Advani J i about S indh ourcountryhas a lways been the staunch supporterof

dem ocracy . We have always supported themovem ent fordem ocracy inevery partof theworld . S ir. inthe S indh Provnce of Pakistan

a struggle forrestorationof dem ocracy has

beenfurgo ing onfoursevera lmonths . The

Pak is taniGovernm ent is bent uponto Gushthe m ovem ent wh ich is be ing piloted byMuhaz ir- Kaum i-Movem ent underthe lead

ersh ip of Shri Gulam Mustaba J atoi who isthe leaderof the united oppos it ionParty . As

ourleaders has sa id inKarachi and Hydera

bad water and electricity supply has beendiscont inued for13days . The localMaullavi

through the Mike announced that people

have com e in street to lodge theirprotest

wh enthe people cam e out on the road in

pro test. theywere crushed by theArm y . The

Arm y Killed 135 persons and injured m oreth an300persons .

I. therefore. want say that it is ourm oral

duty to support the movem ent forthe restora tionof dem ocracy be ing launched thereand we denounce the efforts of the govern

m ent of Pak istanto crush the movem ent.


UPENDRA) : S ir. hon. Mem ber. Shri D ineshS ingh has ra ised a num berof issues . Firstth ing . we have not m ade any ins inuation

about theirOooperationorfunctioning inthis

House. We are grateful to whatevercooparationthey aregiving

- sometim es construo

tive. som etim es otherwise.

SHRIZULFIOUAR ALIKHAN (Ram

pur) : Aga inanins inuation.

SHRIP. UPENDRA: Statem ent of fact .S ir. we had a m eeting of the leaders of all

part ies lastweek . Inthatm eetingwedecided

onthe bus iness to be takenup th is week . In

the m eeting. the leaders of the C ongress (I)

JYAISTHA 7. 1912 ( SAKA) C om m . Report

ra ised the quest ionof placing som e docum ents onthe Table of theHouse wh ich theydem anded earlier. And we prom ised that

whateverpapers haveto beplacedorcanbe

placed. the Governm ent will place them

before the end of the sess ion. that is . before

the end of th is week . Part icularly they m entioneddocum ents relating to theBofors dea l.

theAirbus dealand the term s of reference ofthe inquiry into the Meham incident . All thethree are engag ing the attention of the

Governm ent . The C abinet is tak ing a viewtoday and tomorrowand as prom ised by the

Governm ent. we will try to place whateverdocum ents canbe placed before the end of

the sess ion.

SHRIDINESHSINGH: Inth is connection. S ir. th is am biguous statem ent m ade bytheMinisterforParliam entary Affa irs iswhatcauses concern. He Says : “whateverpapershave to be placed and whatever can be

placed.

”

That m eans . he will select what

papers can be placed . Th is is what our

objectionis about . Wewant a llpapers to be

placed so that he does not play around withthat . (Interruptions) It is th is kind ofconcealing certa inpapers that shows the intent ions

of the Governm ent . (Interruptions )

SHRI SOMNATH C HATTERJ EE

(Bolpur) : S ir, so far as item s 16 and 17 in

today’

s list of bus iness are concerned. one

deals with the Am endm ent of the C onstitu

tionrelating to the Scheduled C astes and

Scheduled Tribes C om m iss ion- statutory

powers to be g iven- and the otherrelating to

land reform s .

Iwould like to know from Mr. D ineshS ingh whetherh is party , with orwithout the

papers be ing la id onthe Table. is go ing to

support oroppose the B ills . Let them decide

lwould thensuggest to thehon. Minister

forParliam entary Affa irs that he m ight post

pone voting oh these Bills tillhe has takena

decis ion. if he des ires ourcooperationon

them . If he does not des ire ourcooperation.

it is a different m atter. But thenthe respons i

bility forthe Bills pass ing ornot pass ing will

be h is . not ours .

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[Sh . Som nath C hatterjee]

whetherthey are go ing to oppose the B ills .

We ins ist that these Bills should be takenupby th is House . These are two im portant B ills .

They shouldbenon- controvers ialBills . These

cannot be m atters Of a quid pro quo . These

are types of B ills which cannot be a subjectm atterof a barga in. Inthenam e of so - ca lled

constructive oppos ition. they cannot hold

the country to ransom .

(Interruptions )

SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE

(Panskura ) :Wh ile appreciating the dem andfor laying Bofors Papers on the Table. I

would like to appea l to the C ongress Partynot to m ake that a pre conditionto the pass

ing of these Bills : ( interruptions) Theseare

such C onstitution(Am endm ent) B ills towhich

they are a lso com m itted . Therefore . Im ake

anappea lthat these two B ills bepassedwith

the requis ite m a jority .

Interruptions)

SHRIBASUDEB AC HARIA (Bankura ) :Th is shows the intentionand m ot ive Of the

C ongress (I) Party . (Interruptions) They aredem anding a pro

- conditionforpass ing two

im portant C onstitution (Am endm ent) Bills .

The Bill to include land reform s inthe Ninth

Schedule is an im portant one . Th is B illalso

g ives statutory powerto Scheduled C astesandScheduledTribes C om m iss ion. AS stated

by the ParlIam entary Affa irs Minister, Governm entwillplace a llthe (Interrup

We know tha t theywillplace a ll the

relevant papers onthe Table of theBut you should not bring

th is issue inthe way Of pass ing these two

B ills .oneofwh ich is regarding land reform s .

Is it that youdo not want the Land Reform sB illto be passed oryoudo not want to give

statutory power to the Scheduled C astes

and Scheduled Tribes C om m iss ion? Kindlyinform about th is to the House .

PROF . N.G . RANGA (Guntur) : Th is isjust like holding a sword at m y throat and

thenask ing m e to g ivem y reply . Here are tha

MAY 28 . 1990 C om m . Report

SHRI SOMNATH C HATTERJEE :Nostalg ia is good but it does not help us

today . (Interruptions)

PROF . N.G . RANGA: Iwant the truth .

the whole truth . Let the papers be placed on

the table of theHouse . Is itwrong onourpart

to ask for that? Should they not cooperatewith m e, the oldest dem ocrat inth is House?

We are asking forallthe papers . YOUare the

custodianof our (Interruptions ) . It is

their elem entary duty to respond to our

dem and. We have beenwa iting fora lltheseyears and we have beencooperating w ith

Bills wh ich we ourselves were anx ious to

pass . It has so happened so that they havecom e innow. Do they want to ho ld us toransom ? Here are the papers about whichwe have beenworried. troubled and painedfor three years . Ido not speak only for

m yself. Im yself have beenanxious . m ore

than others . to know the truth , the whole

truth (Interruptions) Mr. SpeakerS ir. I

went out of m yway— Let m e take the House

into conf idence— to ask the h ighest m an

concerned inourparty. inourGovernm entto assure m e that there was nothing wrong

onourS ide and Iwas giventhat assurance

wh ich Iaccepted . But nevertheless . theyhave beensay ing

‘

som eth ing is there’

and

m yconscience had beenat great pa in. Now.

wewant allthe papers to be la id ontheTableof theHouse .Why is it that theywant to keepthem ? Stillpeople of this country are won

dering as to whether there is som eth ing

wrong because m asses beh indus areunderthe im press ion that we have done som e

th ing terribly wrong . Is it not the tim e tha twe

should face the truth . the whole truth . noth

ing but the truth? Is itwrong ofus to say th is?

And . we are g iving a llourcooperation. Theyhave no other right except the right of de

m ocracy and our attachm ent to it . Otherwise. could th is m inority Governm ent bethere? S incewe are devoted to dem ocracy.

we are support ing them . And theywant to doit th is way

- holding us to ransom ? It does not

lie inthe m outh of m y friends in theirnew

enthus iasm fordem ocracy to say like th is .

(Interruptions ) Here is the sonOf a friend

of m ine .

PMBR MAY 28 .1990

[Sh . Nani Bhattacharya]

Youtell the people of the country that theyare oppos ing the constitut iona lam endm ent

billwh ich is intended to safeguard the inter

est of the Scheduled C astes and Scheduled

Tribes . Sim ilarly. let them also ta llthepeople

that they don‘

twant to safeguard the inter

ests of the poor peasants by giving the

constitut ionalauthority to the land laws .

PROF . SAIFUDDINSOZ (Baramulla ) : Icansuggest a comprom ise form ula .

SHRI NANI BHATTAC HARYA: The

C onstitut ional (Am endment) Bill m akes itobligatory onthe part of the State Governm ents to im plem ent the provis ions of the

relevant clauses . So . Irequest Mr. Sathe.

Mr. S ingh and others to see th ings . to go

deep int the affa irs .

SHRIP.R. KUMARMANGALAM : Yes .

we want to go deep.

SHRINANIBHATTAC HARYA: There

are papers wh ich reveal the corrupt prec

tices at the h igh level. The understandingwas that they should be placed ontheTable

of the House.

SHRIP. UPENDRA: Sir. hon. Shri Di

nesh S ingh . forwhom Ihave great respect.

obviated the need to call forany ins inuatin.

He m ade it so pla inand crude.

SHRISOMNATH C HATTERJEE: Butsoberly . That is h is qualification.


UPENDRA) : S ir. Icanunderstand if theOppos itiontakes exceptionto thepass ing of

the Bills if the papers are related to the bills .

They havenoth ing to do with the bills under

cons ideration. They are absolutely different

papers . not related to the bills . Idon't know

why they are linking up the lay ing of the

papers with these bills wh ich are.

verymomentous bills andforwhichwe havebeen

wa iting fora long tim e . People of th is country

SHRIKHEMC HANDBHAISOMAB

C HAVDA (Patan) : Mr. Speaker. S ir. pieallow m e to say som eth ing . We are t

cerned with the Scheduled CastesScheduledTribes . Item s num ber15 . 16

17. allthese three item s relate to Schedr

C astes and Scheduled Tribes . Please a

m e to say (Interruptions)

[Transla tion]

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. C hayda . pie

take yourseat .

SHRIDINESH SINGH: Mr. Spea

particularly theScheduledC astes andSciuled Tribes and the land less workers

wa it ing forthese bills . They also ra ised

questionofpapers . They have takenexr

tionto my adjectives . S ir. they have has

theGovernm ent fordecades and they hrendered aninvaluable service to thenet

Theyshouldunderstandwh ichpapers m

be la id onthe Table of theHouse ; what

be disclosed and what cannot be disclo

and also the pract icaldifficulties . Ican1

take two exam ples . Forexam ple . the to

of reference of the Suprem e C ourt iaAs youknow. the C hief Justice of Ind ia

to be approached forh is approva l to nr

the Judge . Anapproach has a lready bm ade . We are wa it ing fora reply from

C h ief Justice of India . As soon as we

ceive. it will be la id as well as the term

referencewillbeannounced simultaneor.

A s regards the Bofors’

documents .

havereceived theunpublishedreport . Agit requires the approvalorconcurrence oIGovernm entofSwedento m ake it publicapproach has already been m ade to

Governm entofSwedena lso to m ake itpuIhave giventwo exam ples ofthesepraci

difficulties orthepractica lproblem s invol

in laying . Here. we are expediting it.

stand byourprom ise. Itold them that be

this Sess ionends . whateverpapers car

la id. wewill lay them . That is exactly wl

sa id. Iwill stand by that . (Interruptions)

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Sir. hon. Mem ber. Shri Somnath C hatterjeehad m ade a reference to m e. Ihold Shri

Somna th C hatterjee with great rasped .

MR . SPEAKER: Youare m ak ing a per

sonnel explanation.

SHRIDINESHSINGH: Both . S ir.

SHRISOMNATHC HATTERJEE:Isaid .

he is a very soberperson. He is a m is - fit

SHRIDINESHSINGH: Ihavewatchedhis perform ance whenhe used to s it onthis

s ide of the House . But someth ing has

changed very much in th is transform ationthat has happened. that is . whenhecrossed

the floor. Iam sorry that inthis request ofours to place the papers ontheTable of theHouse fora very specific reasonhe is tryingb m ix it with various issues to give an im

pres s ionthatwe are not interested inthose

iss ues . Iam sorry that Som nathj i has ra isedthe issue of Scheduled C astes and Schad

uled Tribes . He knows verywell that m uch

before h is party cam e into existence inthe

world . the C ongress Party. underthe leader

sh'

p of Mahatm a Gandh i . had beenfightingforthe rights of the Scheduled C astes and

Scheduled Tribes . (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please order.

Please s it down.

SHRIDINESHSINGH: Now. there are

many so ca lled supporters of the ScheduledC astes and Scheduled Tribes . But Iremem

berthose days that ifyousat and atewith themem bers of the scheduledcastes . youwere

thrownout of yourcaste and com m unity. It

was thenthat C ongress was struggling . It is

very m uch easynow to S it ina restaurant andeat with som ebody from the scheduled

JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) C om m . Report

castes . (Interrrp tions) All that Iam trying tosay is that it is not our (Interrup

[Transla tion]

SHRIDAUDAYAL JOSHI(Kota ) : Thatcongress is dead.

( lntem p tions )

SHRI VASANT SATHE: Krishna .

Duryodhanand Kam a- all inone . (Interrup

SHRIDINESH SINGH: All that Iamsaying is that. we are equa lly interested inseeing that these Bills are passed. That is

why. we are suggesting to the hon. Minister

forParliam entary Affa irs that he should fa

cilitate thepass ing of these Bills . It is not that

we are ask ing for these papers only fromyesterday ortoday. we have asked forthemthree months ago . Does it take the Governm ent three m onths to collect these papers?

It is their intentionof not parting with these

papers orplacing them onthe Table of the

House that is creating concerninourm inds .

They want purposely to create a wrongim press ion in the country that they havecertainm ateria ls and that theywillnot share

them with theHouse. It only shows that theydo not have any worthwh ile case and theywant to keep this charge go ing m erely to

ga ina political advantage . And it is not our

intentionto perm it them to ga inth is po litica l

advantage . Ihavegreat regard and affection

forMr. Upendra . but Isee that he has begunto perform like h is leader who com binesm any roles inone f ilm . (Interruptions)

SHRIDINESHSINGH:S ir. hewas try ingto do the sam e th ing inthe House . Iwould

beg of h im to rem a inMr. Upendra . andnot to

perform various other roles that are beingunfortunately thrust upon h im . Ican onlyassure h im that it is ourintentionto ass ist this

House in pass ing this Bill; but we have

lim itations anddifficulties onth is also . (Inter

ruptr‘

ons)

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MR. SPEAKER: Please take yourseatthere is unam inity about SC /ST.

(Interruptions )

MR. SPEAKER:Mr. C havda . Please s it

down. We are already discuss ing what youare refferring to .

SHRISAIFUDDIN C HOUDHURY : I

have only one suggest ionto m ake onwhatthe hon. MinisterMr. Upendra sa id He has

sa id that Governm ent has written to the

Swedish Governm ent for disclos ing the

contents of the Aud it BureauReport . wh ich

was not published . Iwish them success in

theirpersuas ionwith the Swedish Governm ent . If they fa il, then without botheringabout what the Swedish Governm ent issaying, they should com e out openly with

facts .

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SHRIRAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH

(Jahanabad) : Mr. Speaker. S ir. Iam on a

po int of order.

MR. SPEAKER: What is yourpo int oforder? Mr. 802 . please take your seat . Hehas ra ised a po int of order.

SHRIRAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH:S ir. m y po int of order is that just now thelearnedMem berShri D inesh S ingh has sa idthat his party had been struggling for the

welfareof theScheduled C astes and Sched

uled Tribes from the very beg inning even

whenthe C om m unist Party was not inexistence . Iwould like to rem ind the hon. Mem

berabout Jawaharlal's book.“A Glimpse of

World His tory"

inwh ich he has writtenthat

the Revolutionof 1917 underthe leadership

of Lenin is a beacon for the poor and thedown- troddenof the whole world and that it

was proving to be very helpful inthe Freedom - struggle of India . (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: This is not a point of

order. Please take yourseat .

MAY 28 .1990

PROF . SAIF - UD- DINSOZ (Baram

S ir. the Hom e Minister is not here; an

privilege is involved .

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MR. SPEAKER: There is no quest

privilege-

youm ake yourpo int .

PROF . SAIF—UD- DIN 802 : l have

it . and it has gone onrecord. that the F

Minster’

s im pulse regarding Kashm iris

s incere. because Ihad the privi lege ofing to h im a num berof tim es . But the l

Minister's statem ent has m isled the H

as also the Prim e Minister’s wh ich he

m ade onthe 22nd inth is House . Henot

quoted a wrong figureof thosewho fell1

in the firing that was done by the

m ilitary on the m ourners on the 21st;

whenIquoted the figures . he sa id that

wrong. and he contradicted m e and

these figureswere concocted.wrong .u

and then he sa id that Ihad got the figfrom the terrorists .

Now. m y list is complete . Irais

quest ion. with th is House would younr

to knowwhat has happened? Iwant t

theHom eMinisterto inform this House

m any people died on the spot. and

m any people died inthe hospita ls by

evening? It cannot be less than50 tha

(Interruptions)

AN HON. MEMBER: How m anycers ? (Interm ptr

'

ons)

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MR. SPEAKER: Please take yourThere is no po int his standing .

(Interruptions)

PROF . SAIF-UD- DIN802 : InKas

there is terrible heart-burning onthe IMinister

’

s statem ent here. He has cc

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Translation]

SHRIRAM NAlK (Bombay North) : Mr.Speaker, S ir. the Telecom municationsys

tem inthecountry has beendisturbed forthe

last fourdays (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER:Whyareyoustanding?Ishallcalleveryone.

SHRIRAM NAIK: The officers of the

Telecom municatinsdepartment areonstrike

and (Interruptions)

SHRIKHEMC HANDBHAISOMABHAI

C HAVDA (Patan) : Iam ona po int of order.

MR. SPEAKER: Yes .

SHRIKHEMC HANDBHAISOMABHAI

C HAVDA:Ona po int oforder. Mr. Ram Na ik

is speaking . ThenProf. 802 is also speaking .

(Interruptions)

Transla tion]

MR. SPEAKER: Wh ich rule has beenvo ilated. Shri C havda . Pleases itdown. There

is no po int of order.

SHRIRAM LAL RAHI(Misrikh ) : Mr.Speaker. S ir, Iam ona po int of order.

MR. SPEAKER: What is yourPo int ofOrder? Underwhich rule youwant to ra ise

yourpo int of order?

SHRIRAM LAL RAHl: Iam go ing to

placemyPo int ofOrderJustnow. but please

listento m ypo int . Mr. Speaker, S ir. justnow.

anHon’

bleMem berof Bhartiya Janata Partyhas levelled this allegationaga instMr. 302 in

the House (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: There is no Po int of

Order. Please s it down.

(Interruptions)

MR.

’

SPEAKER: Mr. 302 . youtake your

PROF . SAlF-UD- DIN 802 : He has to

withdrawhiswords . Hehasm isled theHouse .

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(Internp tions)

MR. SPEAKERz Please take yourseat.

(Interruptions )

SHRIRAM LALRAHI:Mr. Speaker. S ir.lwant that youshould sateguard the honour

of the Hon’

ble Members (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Please s itdown. There

isno Po intofOrder. Youarespeak ing aga instthe orderof the C ha ir.

SHRIRAMNAl Mr. Speaker. S ir. the

whole C om municationSystem inthe country has beendisruptedwhich has resulted in

tota lchaos and collapse of the C om m unica

tion system . People canneither ta lk with

each - other inourcountry. northere is anytelecom munication link with the foreign

countries . Secondly . the computer systemhas beenbrokenout at a llplaces whether itis IndianAirLines Reservationsystem Ra i lway reservat ionsystem Fax System orit is a

Telex system of Oil C ompanies . The news

have not beencom ing through Teleprintersin the newspapers . as a result of which

inform ationis not being provided to the entire country . Such a serious s ituation has

beencreated . It has beenreported that the

em ployees of the telecom municat ion sys

tem—telecom munica t ionEng ineerService

Associationand JuniorTelecommunicationOfficersAssociationhavebeenag itating andlaunching work to rule agitat ion. During la s tNovem ber

’

89. theGovernm ent had acceptedthe recom m endations of Telecom munica

tionC om m iss ioner. but thepresentGovemm ent has not beenaccept ing those po ints .

that is why the present agitationhas been

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launched. It is being sa id that theMinistry of

Finance has beencreating som e obstacles

i t its im plem entation. In the Bombay cityalone MahanagarTelephone Nigam has

beenincurring a loss of Rs . one crore da ily Iwould li te to say that theMinisterof Financeand M inisterof Telecom municationshould

tak e the House into confidence about the

s i ua t ionandm ake a statem ent inthis regard

b day itself. It is m y subm iss ion (Interrup

SHRIP. UPENDRA: S ir. the sess ion

h a s beenspecifica lly extended to com plete

pend ing urgentGovernm ent bus iness and itwa s decided in the Bus iness Advisory

C om m ittee as well as inthe m eeting of the

Leaders . that otherissues willnot be ra ised

until these Bills are passed . Aga in. we are

spend ing lot of t im e onthese issues . Ire

qued youto takeup the legislative bus iness

of the House . (Interruptions)

SHRI BANWARILAL PUROHIT

(q ur) : Mr. Speaker. S ir. such a m ism anagem ent hasnot beenseenintheMinistry ofC om munication till today . I com e from

Nagpur. though the telecom municat ionsys

tem has beencom pletely disrupted in the

entire country . but telecom municationsys

tem has totallycollapsed intheninedistricts

ofVidharbha regionofNagpur. The services

of Teleprinters . U.T. l. P.T. I. and FAX has

beencompletely discontinued to the localnewspapers of the state. Industries and

Bus iness has completely com e to a stand

still. because telephonic talk can not be

made to otherplaces of ourcountry fromGujarat . Eventhere is no m eans of C om munication to send m essages to Delhi andBombay forlife saving drugs . FAX services

has a lso beendisrupted. Mr. Speaker. S ir.

the telecom munication. system has been

disrupted so much during the reg im e of

presentGovernm ent thatno efforts has beentakento solve it . No ta lks have beenheld

a bout the dem ands of the employees . The

com munication system m ay be im proved

JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) C om m . Report

afterholding talks with the employees . To

day. such is the s ituation lnNagpur

(Internp tions)

hrs .

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Kum aram anga

S ir. it is m ost unfortunate that after I

have beenca lled to speak . Inote that the

Ministergets up to speak and onhis ownhe

is trying to m ake a statem ent . There is a

certain (Interruptions)

THE MINISTER OF TEXTILES ANDMINISTER OF FOOD PROC ESSING IN

DUSTRIES (SHRISHARAD YADAV) : Mr.Speaker. S ir. all that he is saying

MR. SPEAKER: Please s itdown. Ihave

ca lled Shri Kum arm angolam .

SHRIP. R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Sir.th is issue has com eupearlier. Itwas settled

very am icably by discuss ing with the JuniorEngineers Association. the Telecom Officers Associat ion. Unfortunately. the Governm ent is not tak ing pos itive steps to solve

the problem . C om municationis com ing to a

halt . Yesterday we could not m ake even

loca l calls and the reason is because theGovernm ent is taking the m atter lightly . If

only they could calltheAssociation. discuss

with them . they could settle the issue with inm inutes . UnfortunatelythisGovernm entdoes

SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANGALAM

(Salem ) :S ir. Iwould liketo bring to thenot iceof the Governm ent that the telephone s ituationis extrem ely bad and the telecom municationsystem is almost com pletely brokendown. Yesterday night we could not m akeloca lca lls (Interruptions)

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[Sh . P.R. Kum aram angalam ]

not seem to take any m atterseriously and

thewhole telecom municationsystem is col

laps ing . Iwould pleadwith theGovernm entthat theydiscusswith theAssociat ionim m e

diately oncerta inm atters . C erta inly it is not

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Lokanath C h

oudhary.

SHRI LOKANATH C HOUDHURY

(J agats inghpura ) : S ir. theentire telecom mu

nicationsystem inthecountry is

(Interruptions) TheGovernm ent shouldcom ewith a statem ent today as to what steps they

propose to take to solve th is problem . (Inter

MR. SPEAKER: Shri C hitta Basu.

SHRIC HITTA BASU (Barasat) : S ir. asm any hon. Mem bers have drawnthe attentionto the com plete disruptionof the com

municationsystem inourcountry . the hon.

Ministerforcom municat ion should m ake a

statem ent (Interruptions)

SHRI SOMNATH C HATTERJEE

(Bolpur) :We are also support ing this .

SHRIC HI'

ITA BASU : The JuniorTelecom munication system officers and the

Ass istant Engineers had beenag itating onthis issue fora long tim e . They subm itted adem and of having tim e bound prom otioninOctoberlast . Theydem and that thereshouldbe a prom ot ionincaseofJuniorofficers aftertwelve years of continuous service and in

case of Ass istant Engineers . they should

have th is chanceofprom otionaftertenyearsof service . Th is is a long pending dem andof

a very im portant sect ionof ourta le- com mu

nication officers . There have been som e

ta lks . Ihope. the talks will bring about thedes ired results . lwant that theMinisterhim self

takes up thenegotiations and brings about a

peaceful settlem ent of the s ituat ionso that

the people canbe relieved of th is problem in‘

elecom m unication.

MAY 28 .1990 C om m . Report

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SHRIMADANLAL KHURANA: lwouldlike to subm it about telecom m unication

system that youshould ask him to m ake a

statem ent . because telecom m unication

system has beenparalysed there . My tele

phone has beenout of orderforfourdays

(Interruptions)

.SHRIBASUDEB AC HARIA: Onbehalf

of the entire House . S ir. you can a sk the

Ministerto m ake a statem ent .

MR. SPEAKER: Iam not com ing inthe

way. They are there and they canm ake a

statem ent .

Transla tion]

SHRIMADAN LAL KHURANA: Keeping inview the atm usphene inthe House.

youshould direct him to m ake a statem ent .

Youshould ask h im to m ake a statem ent in

th is (Interruptions)

SHRINATHU SINGH (Dausa ) : Im ake a

request that Governm ent should m ake a

statem ent onthe situationwh ich has been

created only by the strike of Eng ineers .

Governm ent should m ake a statem ent on

theentire telecom municationsystem . (Interruptions)


MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRSAND

'

MINISTEROF STATE INTHEMINIST RY.

OF TOURISM SHRISATYA PAI.

uJ K) : Iwillcovey the feelings of theHouseto theconcernedMinisterand request h im to

m ake a statem ent about it .

MR. SPEAKER: Iwould like to subm it

only th is much that so m any m em bers have

given their nam es to ask the Quest ions .

Therefore first of all. Iwould like to say that

inthe beglning that Billm ay be takenup for

wh ich the s itt ings of the House have been

extended .

C om m . onAbsence of

[Sh . M.J . Akbar]

beendisbanded . The Prim e Minister has

givena veryconfus ing answerintheHouse

andnot inform ed theHouse about thestatus

of that Ministry . Ith ink . we are entitled to

know whetherthat Ministry exists ornot .

Translation]

SHRIMADAN LAL KHURANA (SouthDelh i) : Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. Ihad givena notice about BachhawatWage Board andHon. Speakerhad prom ised to give m e tim e

to ra ise th is m atterinthe House (Interrup

Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. Iwould like tora ise two po ints about Bachhawat WageBoard award . One is related to the Governm ent . Not ification in connect ion with the

im plem entation of the Bachhawat WageBoard award. Second is about the im ple

m entat ionof the report of the Expert C om

m ittee forgrant of pens ionto journalists .

Has the Governm ent conducted any

survey inconnect ionwith the im plem entationof the recom m endations of the Bachha

wat Wage Board and how m any newspa

pers owners have implem ented these rec

om m endations . According to m y inform a

tion. only 10 percent newspaper ownershave im plem ented it and 90 percent have

not implem ented them . Supreme C ourt has

also not accepted the plea of News Paper

owners . but the laws are obsolete. It is m y

subm iss ionto theGovernment thatGovernm ent should clear its pos itioninth is regard

and the newspapers owners who have not

im plem ented the award. should be asked to

im plem ent them .

S im ilarly . the report of the EXpert C om

m ittee about the pensionto the journalists islying inthecold storage. it should a lso begot

implem ented by the Governm ent (Inter

rupt ions)

SHRIHARISH RAWAT (Alm ora) : Mr.Deputy Speaker. S ir. Hon. Mem bers are

following the procedure of m aking subm is

'Not recorded.

MAY 28 .1990 M .Ps . Report 44

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: This isnota

po int of order. Nowyouhave had toomuch

of your

(Interruptions )

SHRIHARISH RAWAT: Iam quotingthe rule also S ir.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Rawat.

please take your

(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: NowBillsto

be introduced . Shri Sharad Yadav

(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Only whd

Mr. Sharad Yadav says willform part olt

record

(Interruptions)'

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ladhajr. it is

not form ing part of the

(Interruptions )‘

s ioninZero Hour. Many im portant mattersare being ra ised underit. The issue ofnon

im plementationof BachhawatWage Boardaward has been ra ised. the newspaper

owners arenot very serious about the implementat ionof its recom m endat ions andthese

are not being im plem ented evenafterthe

assurances by the Governm ent againandaga in. because Governm ent is not takenany stringent actionaga inst these newspa

perowners . Many owners have gone tothe

court . land m ycolleagues had givenanotice

the by ignoring allthe norm s prescribedfor

telecast of film s . film of the N.T.R. hadbeen

telecast byTelevis ion. It appears thatRadio

andTelevis ionhave becom e m outhpieced

the National Front and the friends of them em bers of National Front Governmentunderthe leadersh ipofShri Upendra. (Inter

ruptions)

.16 hrs.

TEMANUFAC TURES DEVELOPMENTcounrcrr. (AMENDMENT) BILL

“

IEMINISTEROF TEXTILES ANDMINER OF FOOD PROC ESSING INDUSES (SHRISHARAD YADAV) : Mr. DepSpeaker. S ir. Ibeg to m ove that leave be

nted to introduce a Billto am end the Jute

nufactures Developm ent C ouncil Ad .

13.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKERzThe question

That leave be granted to introduce a

Bill to am end the Jute Manufactures

Developm ent C ouncilAct.

The m otionwas adopted.

SHRISHARAD YADAV: Mr. DeputySpeaker. S ir. Iintroduce the Bill.

'17hrs .

JNSTITUTION (SIXTY -NINTHAMENDMENT) BILL

"

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRSIRIMUFTIMOHAMMAD SAYEED) : S ir.39 to m ove for leave to introduce a Bill

herto am end the C onstitutionof India .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER:The question

“That leave be granted to introduce a

Billfurtherto am end the C onstitutionof

India .

”

The m otionwas adopted

SHRIMUFTIMOHAMMAD SAYEED:S ir. Iintroduce the Bill.

[English]

MATTERS UNDERRULE 377

Need for s Bench of Kera la

n hcourt and enAdm lnlstrs

tlve Trlbuns l st Trlvendrum

(Kerala)

Transla tion]

Need to construct a Multl- Pur

poseDam onrlverKoslInBlhsr

ublished inGazette of India . Extraordinary. Part II. Section2 . dated

SHRIA. C HARLES (Trivandrum ) : S ir.the questionof establishing a branch of theKerala High C ourt atTrivandrum . the capital

of Kera la . is pending forthe last m ore than

twentyyears . In1971 . theKerala Legislature

passed a unanim ous resolut ionfor estab

lishing a Bench at Trivandrum . As no deci

s ionwas taken. in1985 the Kerala Govemm entclarified that thiswi llbe reviewed a longwith the decis ionforsetting up anAdm inis

trative T ribunal at Trivandrum . But the

Adm inistrat ive Tribuna l was also subse

quently established at C ochin. As a result.

there is neithera Bench of the High‘

C ourt

noranAdm inistrativeTribunal inthe capital

ofKerala . Th is has led to lotof adm inistrative

inconvenience. It is . therefore. requestedthat the C entralGovernm ent m ay take ur

gent steps forestablishing a Bench of the

Kera la High C ourt and anAdm inistrative

Tribuna latTrivandrum without furtherdelay .

SHRI RAMENDRA KUMAR RAVI

YADAV (Modhepura ) : Mr. Deputy Speaker.S ir. Kos i divis ion inBihar is affected everyyearby heavy ra ins and devastating floodsinKos i river leading to disruptionof public

life. C rops of the farm ers are destroyed anda lot of inconvenience is caused due to

disruptionof transport faci lites . Not only this .

a lmost entire North Bihar is affected by the

floods inKos i river. Lakhs of houses . thou

Ma tters under MAY 28 .1990 Rule 377 48

[Sh . Ram endra Kum arRavi Yadav] [English]

sands ofca ttle. thousands ofkilom etres long Need to electrlfy Ra ilway line

pucee roads . crops standing inlakhs ofacres between Rsnaghat- Bongaon

of land are dam aged and lives of thousands

of people are adversely affected by it . EveryyearBiharGovernm ent has to incurloss tothe tune of crows of rupees due to devastat

ing floods inthe above river. The people of

North Bihar had started an agitation for

construct ionof a m ultipurpose dam onKos i

riverin1987with a view to provideprotect ion

from the floods inthe Kos i river. but Kos i

Dam has not beenconstructedso far. There

fore. Iurge upon the C entral Governm entthat a m ult i - purpose dam should be con

structedonKos i riverinB iharinconsultat ion

with NepalGovernm ent at the earliest .

Need to setuph dustrles based

on Telecom m unica tlon net

work InBlhar

SHRIMANJAY LAL (Sam astipur) : Mr.Deputy Speaker. S ir. Bihar is a backward

stateofourcountry . During the last43 years .

there has beenlittle developm ent inBiharincom parison to other States . In regard to

telecom municationindustries it is veryback

ward. The outlay lnthe Seventh Five YearPlanwas Rs . crores . There is a provi

s ionof Rs . crores inthe Eighth FiveYear Plan. The Departm ent of Telecommunications has opened its factories almost

inallthe states of thecountry . UttarPradesh .West Bengal and Delh i are very much for

ward inth is industry . But Biharand Orissaare deprived of such industries so far. Keep

ing inview the backwardness and unem

ploym ent in Bihar and Orissa a provis ion

should be m ade inthe Eight Five YearPlanforsetting up of telecom munication indus

tries there. Many tra ining centres and colleges connected with th is industry part icularly inBiharare running there .

Therefore. the Planning C om m iss ionis

requested that provis ionm ay be m ade for

setting up telecom m unication industries in

Bihar.

sect ion

[English]

To remove the sufferings of thepeople

electrificat ion of th is section is urgently

needed . The localRa ilway authority (Seal;

dah ) had recom m ended the electrificationof

this line inpublic interest but no actionhas

beentakenby the Railway Board so far.

lwould. therefore. request theRainyMinisterto fulfilthe long

- standing demands

of th is sectionat the earliest .

Transla tion]

Need to provlde flnancleles

s lstance to B iharGovem menl

for borlng tubewells InJaha

nabad and Gaye dlstrlcts to

cope wlth the drlnklng waft !

problem there

SHRIRAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH

(Jahanabad) : Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sirpol:

sons and anim a ls are dy ing due to Shortage

ofdrinkingwaterinBihar. The stateGovern

m ent has fa iled to solve this problem . People

are crying forwater. particularly inhundreds

of villages of Jahanabad and Gaye district.

That area is a rocky area and wateris ml

available even after boring . C h ildrenand

DR. ASIM BALA (Nabadwip) : Sir.Ran

aghat- Bangaon sect ion covers 33 Km. of

distance . Rail service is the only meansof

com munica tionon this sect ion. Out-dated

diesel locomotives run in this sectionwith

disruptive ra il services . As a result. thou

sands of passengers suffer regularly and

cannot go to theirrespect ive destinations in

tim e . Ra ilway authority adopts the practioeof us ing dam aged and unsuitable rakes

keeping the passengers in danger. More

over. there is neither a shed noranover

bridge inth is sectionand insom e stationsthere is no platform even.

C onst. (S . C . Orders

(Am end. Bill

Transla tion]

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND

WELFARE (SHRIRAM VILAS PASWAN) :Mr. Deputy Speaker. S irIdo notwant to takemuch tim e of the House . Iwas th inking to

conclude m y speech onFriday itself but thatwas not poss ible. Therefore. now Iconclude

it In5 m inutes . It is a s im ple Billwh ich has

beenbrought before the Parliam ent. As youknow that C entenary of Baba Saheb Ambedkar is be ing celebrated th is year. TheGovernm ent of India has decided to cele

brate this yearas the yearof Social justice.

A C onstitut iona l C om m ittee has beencon

stituted underthe C ha irm ansh ipof theHon.

PrimeMinister. Inth is yearof SocialJusticewe shall try to put an end to social and

econom ic inequalities and tobringthepeopleof backward class inthe m a instream of the

country . This Bill has beenintroduced tofulfill th is very purpose. Ag itated with the

existing social system Baba Saheb Am

bedkaradopted Buddhism inthe year1956 .

Lakhs of h is followers also adopted Bud

dh ism . Before and afteradopting Budh ism

Baba Saheb Ambedkar wished that he

wanted to protect the rights ofdowntrodden

and Harijans and he adopted it only forthls

purpose and he m ade cont inuous efforts for

it .

The persons who belong to Scheduled

C astes and em brace Budh ism should also

be provided the sam e facilities which are

ava ilable to the people of the Scheduled

castes . The Governm ent of Maharashtrahas already provided them facilit ies whichare m eant forScheduled C astes but these

has not beenprovided by the C entralGov

em m ent till now. AnAm endm ent Bill was

passed by the Parliam ent inthe Year 1956

underwhich those Scheduled C astes who

em brace anyotherreligionexceptHinduismare not entitled to get facilities wh ich are

m eant forthe Scheduled castes . The provi

s ionhadbeenm ade to give facilit ies underit

for the people of Scheduled C astes who

em braceS ikh religion. Nowthis Bill is before

youand this provis ionhas beenm ade in it

that the persons of Scheduled castes . who

have adopted Buddhism should a lso be

MAY 28 .1990 As Passed 52

With thesewords Iwould like to request

youto take it up forcons ideration.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion

m oved:

"

that the Billfurtherto am end the Con

stitution (Scheduled C astes ) Order.1950 and the C onstitut ion (Scheduled

C astes ) (UnionTerritories ) Order. 1951

and to am end the C onstitution(Jammu

andKashm ir) Scheduled C astesOrder.1956. the C onstitution(Dadra andNepal

Haveli) Scheduled C astesOrder. 1962.the C onst itution(Pondicherry) Sched

'

uled C astes Order. 1964 and the Con

stitution (S ikk im ) Scheduled C astes

provided the sam e facilities which areavail

able to the Scheduled C astes . The RajyaSabha has passed this Billunanimouslyon

the 8th May because on9th it was Buddha

Pum im a . Iam very grateful to youandconvey m y thanks to the people of allpartiss l

thank the leaders and co lleagues of the

C ongress Party and part icularly Shri Sathethat onthat day he sa id that as faras the

issue of Scheduled C astes and Scheduled

tribes is concerned. we are unanimous and

wewillprotect theirrights . Ifeel that this8]

can be treated as non-controversial. The

hon. Mem bers willcerta inly draw the attentionof theGovernm ent and ra isedproblemsof Scheduled castes and ScheduledTrbos

through th is Bill. Iknow that ourcolleagues

willsay that people of otherrelig ions should

also be covered under it but Iwould liketo

request youthat the governm ent wants thatthis issue shouldnot be g ivenpolit icalcolour

and theseproblem s shouldbe solvedcuttingacross the party lines . Th is B ill has been

introduced here because there is unanimityabout it . As Istated earlierthat th is Billhas

beenpassed by Rajya Sabha . that iswhyl

wantthat this shouldbepassed inLokSabha

with unanim ity within little poss ib le time. It

willbe a great achievem ent forus andforthis

House. If it passeswith unanim ity. itwillboa

tribute to Baba Saheb Am bedkarinthereal

sense inthis centenary year.

C oast. (3. C . ) Orders JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA)

Order. 1978. aspassedbyRajya Saeha .be td teninto consideration.

“

SHRIK. S . RAO (Mach ilipatnam ) : Mr.eputy Speaker. S ir. the hon. Ministerwas

lorm ing theHouse that the C ongress lead

salso are cooperat ing inth is Bill. There isldenia labout it. Iunderstand from severa l

m ers that the young MinisterMr. Ram

as Paswanwants to be bold inprotectingrrights or ingo ing to the rescue of the

fortunate harijans inth is country. Initiallyren the reservations were added to the

hedule . the bas is forth is was only their

onom ic and social status . If it was onlyono m ic status . there were m any more

lo s hould havebeenincluded. Tak ing into

count the poverty pos ition. inferiority and

m uch havoc that theywere subjected to

generations .with the initiat iveofGandh ijlthose days . bas ically harijans were ao

pted and included inthis Schedule. Wheni go to thequestionofwhethersom eotherstes are also to be included. m anyof them

ad to harijans only . But lateron. itwas sa id

at by virtueof theirtak ingup C hristianityor

rddh ism , those people were not consid

ed as untouchable intheirrelig ionand soey shouldnot be included. Ido not find anystillcationinit . Wh ile Icom m end the hon.

lnisterforbringing Buddhists into the pur

ewof th is Bill. Iam unable tounderstandas

w hy he couldnot discuss it inthe C abinet

rhecould not convince the Prim e Minister

i t including the C hristians . who are also in

nosam e m iserable state. Whenwediscuss7Parliam ent orwhenwe discuss with the

nlrghtened citizens . it m ay not be known;ut as people

's representatives whenwe

reconnectedwith thenrralareas andwhen

rego to the harijanvoters . we are unable to

ilferentiate the harijan C hrist ian and the

arijanHindu. inthe society . It is onlynowon

aper that we are discuss ionwhether it

bould beHinduHarijanorChristianHarijanndwhetherit should be accepted ornot .

KUMARIUMA BHARATI Khajuraho) :hristians do not have this kind of system

SHRIK. S . RAO :Whenwevis itourownreas . ourownwards wh ich are segregated

from the m a invillage. It is very difficult to

identify who is C hristianHarijanand who isHinduHarijan. Inthe society also . they arecalled as Hari jans and treated as Harijans .

There is no districtionbetweenHinduharijanand C hrist ianHari jan. That is only onrecord .

whenhegoes forgetting adm itioninto sct

orcollegethat it iswritten. C hri stianorHlndu.

But whenyougo to a Harijanward. all aretreated as Harijans whetherthey are HinduHarijans . C hristian harijans or Buddh ist

Harijans .

What Iwant to convince my colleaguesand also the hon. Ministeris . wh ile appreci

ating h is initiat ive to bringneo - Buddhists into

the purview. Icannot understand why he

could not th ink term s of convincing the

Government or the House or the Prime

Ministerto include C hristians alsowho are in

the sam e m iserable state as what the Har

ijans are. By anychange. ifthe hon. Minister

and my colleagues are of the opinionthat

som eof the C hrist ians have achieved better

status in econom y or social. then surelythere are m anyHarijans also who are injoying the same status . By virtue of enjoy ingthese privileges flowing out of reservationto

first generat ionorsecond generat ion. som e

of them could have com e out of poverty.

som eof them could havebecome rich .could

havebecom esell- suff icientoi well-placed in

societyeitherinbureaucracyorem ployment

orsocia l status or inrespect of property. If

theHousewere to th ink that such people are

to be discont inued these privileges orto be

deleted from the Schedule. thewisdom lies .

the boldness lies inincluding HarijanChristians whoarevery poor.who are inthe sam eeconomy and social status but to delete

thosehari janswho areenjoyingbetterstatusorbetterproperty inthe society . Icanunder

standthereasoninit. The hon. Ministermust

have the courage to say Inth is House and

bring anam endm ent inth is regard.

Iexpla inm y ownexperience inragged

to HarijanChristians who are living inmyconst ituency. WhenIgo to a Harijanward.

irrespective of whetherhe is HarijanC hristianorHarijanHindu. fourfam ilies will beliving in one house. inone room . a little

biggerone.

C onst, (S . C . Orders

(Am end. Bill

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Iwillbring to

yournotice that lhave beengivena long listof yourParty . If youare not com pleting yourspeechwithin5 m inutes . Iwouldnot be able

to g ive tim e to sam e otherm em bers .

SHRIK . S . RAO : S ir. the m a inpo int I

wanted to im press onthe hon. Minister

KUMARIUMA BHARATI: Point of order. D ivid ing the

.

C hristians into HarijanChristians and h igh - caste C hristians . Ith ink .

the hon. Mem berhas to ask the perm issionofJohnPope Paul. Hedoesnotdivide C hris

tians into Harijan C hristians and Sa vam

C hrist ians . According to the C hristianreligion. there is no Harijanorno Sava m. allare

equal. What the hon. Mem ber is telling isaga inst the C hristianreligion. He is insulting

the C hristianrelig ion. (Interruptions)

SHRIG . M . BANATWALLA: Are theMem bers expected to look across theborderand take instruct ions? (Interruptions)

KUMARIUMA BHARATI: Do youdenythe ex istence of the Bible? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No po int oforder. Please. No cross - ta lking .

SHRIK. S . RAO :We are boasting ourselves with pride. Everyone of us says thatourcountry is a secularcountry.Whenitwasto be a secularcountry. is it a crim e foranyHarijanto take the C hristianity inth is country? By virtue of taking to the C hristianity .should he be deprived of the privileges that

weregivento h im earlierwhenhewas Hindu

orBuddh ist?Onwhat bas is . theHon. Minis

terhas com e to this House to include neo

Buddhists into the reserved list? On the

sam e principle. a m ere C hange of fa ith or

relig ion. should not be a reasonforprevent

ing or fordeclining the privileges that are

givento a poorm anora poorHarijantoenjoy a good status that he was entitled toearlier. If that principle were to be accepted

forpass ing th is Bill. the sam eprinciple must

also include HarijanC hristians inth is . Ido

notwant the hon. Ministerto m ake a m od

eryofourpolicyofsecularism bydiscrim inat

MAY 28 .1990

ing betweenHarijanC hrist ians and HarrjanBudh ists orHarijanHindus . Iwant this to be

taken into account and Irequest the Hon.

Minister to include Harijan C hristians and

HarijanMuslim s into th is category and to seethat they arenotdiscrim inatedbyonlychanging the fa ith .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Prof . Ram

Ganesh Kapsa . yourParty has 18 m inutes .

Ihave three nam es before m e. 18 m inutes

forthree Members . S ix m inutes each .

PROF . RAMGANESHKAPSE (Thane) :Am Iallowed to speak for18 m inutes?

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: 18 m inutes

forthree Mem bers of yourParty .

SHRIK. S . RAO : From our s ide. we

have obliged yourt im ings .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ido not knowwhetherall otherMem bers would do that . Icannot quarrelwith youa ll the t im e!

Transla tion]

PROF . RAMGANESHKAPSE (Thane) :I welcom e the C onstitution (ScheduledC astes ) Orders (Am endm ent) Bill. 1990m oved inthe House by the hon. Minister in

this birth centenary yearof Dr. Baba SahebAm bedkarand the 100th death anniversaryofMahatm a Phule . lt is true that it is a belated

step as it should have beendone long backin1956 itself . But itwas deliberately shelvedby the C ongress leaders at that tim e and

today we are trying to do it . It’

s better latethannever. so Iwelcom e the Bill. Iwould like

to tell the House what was done by the

C ongress leaders in 1956 . On the 14th

October. 1956 . i. e. ontheVijayadashm i day.

Dr. Baba Saheb Am bedkar along with h is

five lakhs harijan followers adopted Bud

dh ism atNagpur. But som edays priorto it on

the 25th Sptem ber. 1956 . orders to th is

effect were issued by the government that

the benefits of reservation. etc. wouldnot be

extended to Neo - Baudh Harijans . Is it the

kind of justice done to Neo - Baudhs by the

C ongress regim e?Does the C ongress Party

C onst. (S . C . ) Orders MAY 28 . 1990 As Passed

(Am end . Bill

[Prof . Ram Ganesh Kapse]

relig ioninprotest aga inst the evilofuntouch

ability lnHindu relig ion. He had sa id that

although he had borninaHindufam ily but hewould not preferto d ie as Hindu. His portra it

should have beendisplayed inthe C entralHalllong ago but itwas done by theJanta DalGovernm ent. Before th is , the C ongress

Governm ent did not visua lise this idea . Nor

didthey th ink h im worthyofconferring'Bharat

Ratna'. Today . they are ra is ing the issue of

justice forthem . Whateveryouare saying isa ll History is witness to it .So . whetherthe C ongress Party supports ornot. they should knowthatweare go ing to doth is work .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER:Wordwillnot

go inthe records .

(Interruptions)

[English]

SHRIK. S . RAO : Youwill support this

B illonly

(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER:Mr. Rao. why

do you carry on like this? Ithink all the

Mem bers of the House agree to the provi

s ion of th is Bil'Hence . it is not . Ith ink.

necessary to m ake long speeches . There

are other subjects to d iscuss . Ihope the

Mem bers will coperate. Now . Shri C hand

Ram .

Interruptions)

PROF . P. J . KURIEN (Mavelikara ) : Letus stick to the tim e .

(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You m ay

please ask yourMem bers to do that .

Expunged as ordered by the Cha ir.

Transla tion]

SHRIKALKA DAS (Karolbagh):

Deputy Speaker. S ir. th is is a m atterofgconcern. Acom prehens ive discussionsl

be held onit . It is be ing drifted to thewdirect ion.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If yousom epo int different from what havealr

beenm ade. youm ay m ake it.

SHRIKALKADAS : My nam e has !

recom m ended to speak onth is subjec

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Iwill

SHRIC HAND RAM (Ha rdo i) : Mr.uty Speaker, S ir. Iwould like to congral

the hon. Ministerforaccepting a long s

ing dem and and bring ing th is C onstilAm endm ent Bill. Iunderstand that it is ;

onoursociety and particularly onthe lcom m unity that evenafterso m anyyea

independence . atrocit ies are still I

com m itted onthe people belonging to l

ward classes . In1932 . the Poona Pac

s igned betweenDr. Am bedkarand theHindu leaders . Under the pact . it wesured by the C osts Hinduleaders that ia spanof 10years . allthe scheduledc

peb lewouldbe brought into them a inslof t society . But it is regretted that tha

has not beendone till now . In 193i

Am bedkar.wrote a booknam ed ANat

C astes”

. TheMem berwho spokepriorsa id that one Dr. Am bedkarhad state

it was not inhis hand to be bornina l

scheduled caste fam ily . but it was with

capacity to fight aga inst discrim inationstaying inthe Hindurelig ion. He wa itr

fulltirrenty years afterthat . Th is speecl

m ade by h im in the m eeting of‘

Sath

Todak Mandal’

held at Lohore. Itwasot

by Sant Ram who passed away rec

Bha i Parm enand was the leaderof l

Mahasabha thenand he was a lso invi

the m eeting. but later h is invitation

cancelled. (Interruptions)

Const. (S . C . ) Orders JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA)

fl DEPUTY SPEAKER:Wedon't haveorbng speeches . Please com e to the

-lRl C HAND RAM: Iwould like to say'

is much that Iwould not say anythingrssaryorunim portant. but Iwould like

ass my regrets overthe fact thatcaste

|e loggedly follows a personbelongre Scheduled C aste . evenif he gets

ed into som e otherreligionincludinginity . C ons ideration of C aste and

nity orthat of high orlow has no place

elig ion. but eveninIslam . people are“

m ated aga inst onthe bas is of caste .

Iinduweaverconverts into Islam . he

Ia'Pansari

’

. and if a personbelongty othercaste becom es a Mus lim . he

Ia‘

Vom an'and if a personbelonging

ithercom munity converts into Is lam .

alled a'KabirS ikh'. The very so ilof

such that it divides people oncaste

m m una l lines . Dr. Am bedkar. the

rof our C onstitution. had in 1936 .

orthe abolitionof caste system . He

the enactm entofHinduC odeAm end

ii“and som ehow abolish the caste

Now. with the introduct ionof th is Bill

j fortheNeo- Buddh ists . theprovis ion

.ose facilities . as are enjoyed by therled C astes . canIexpect of this Par

of India to go aheadwith the abolition

e system . C an Iexpect from the

of India the establishm ent of a cas

rnd ega litariansociety? Earlier. inour

es outs ide the House. we used to

i too m uch the extens ionof reserva

l the neo - buddhists . Iam glad that

as beenturned into a rea lity . Further.a s already stated. SarderPatel had

ised fourgroups inthe S ikh com mu

Scheduled C astes . but Iwould like to

nhere that there were no scheduled

am ong the S ikhs and caste systemnexistent inthat com munity. Infact .

anak Dev had vehem ently opposedp tice of untouchability and he had

at there would be no untouchabilitythe Sikhs but it is a m atterof great

hat overthe years . fours ikh com muv iz : Kab irpanth is . Ram das ias .

sis and S ikligars have com e to be

As Passed

recognised as scheduled caste s ikhs . Now

that the Neo- Buddhists too are be ing pro

videdwith the sam e facilities as are enjoyedby the scheduledcastes . No doubt provis ion

of reservation has been extended for an

othertenyears but Iwonderwhetherthere

willeverbe a tim e . whenth is caste system

would be com pletely abolished and thrown

out lock. stock and barrel? To ach ieve that

end. once. Ihad writtena letter to Pandit

Nehrusuggesting h im to introduce the sys

tem of inter-caste. inter- state and inter- religions m arriages and to provide jobs to allsuchcouples . Inthat letter. Ihad a lso asked h im

to abolish the use of surnames like Dwivedi.Trivedi . C haturvedi . Pandit . Thakuretc. with

thenam e of a particularindividua lbut unfor

tunately. Panditji did not agree to it sayingthat it would deprive the individual of h is

identity and as regards the intercaste m arriage. thatwas one

's ownchoice. Regarding

inter-caste. inter- religion. orinter- state m ar

riage. he sa id that it was a m atterof one's

ownchoice and m oreover inour country .

m ost of the m arriages take place with the

consent of parents and they are also ar

rangedbythem . Marriages outs ide thecaste

orcom m unity are resented and they lead tothe problem of disorderand disharm oney in

the society . On several occas ions Ihave

tried to get incorporated a provision inthe

lawunderwhich a separate Ministry m ay be

established to look afterthe welfare of theScheduled C astes and Scheduled Tribesand program m es forthe upliftm ent of these

people areundertakeninsuch a m annerthat

they them selves shouldcome forward to saythat they did not stand inneed of reservations any m ore . Is incerely hope that such astepwould be taken. Now. as it is inthecase

of S ikh and HinduScheduled C astes. who

havebeencontestingelections from reserved

const ituencies . the Buddh ists too are go ingto dem and separateconstituencies forthem .

Maharashtra has sevenreserved constitu

encies . Nowsupposing that. out of them .two

are reserved forthe Scheduled C astes . the

Buddh ists are go ing to dem and more re

served C onstituencies . say ing that at thetim e of delim itat ionof these constituencies .

they were not included inthe list of Scheduled C astes and a lso because theirpopula

I

C onst. (S . C . ) Orders

[Sh . C hand Ram ]

tionhas increased overthe years . Insuch a

s ituation, perhaps youm ay have no other

option. but to yield to theirdem and. butwhat

if . othercom munities . including C hristians

too start ra is ing s im ilardem ands? There

fore. Ifeelthatwe should find out a so lution

to th is problem . Ourcountrym enshould givea serious thought to th is issue .

1 hrs .

SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (Mor

m ugao ) : Thank you. Mr. Deputy Speaker.

Well. we have heard all these speeches . I

would like to say that s ince a lm ost 1977. I

have beenurg ing the success ive Govern

m ents to include Buddh ists and people of

otherrelig ions into the am bit of these provi

s ions . So . Iam happy to the extent that neoBuddh ists are g iven these benefits . But I

oppose th is Billbecause it furtheralienates

and further m arginalises the Mus lim s and

C hrist ians onwards . And it is going to create

a lotofproblem s . It is adding to theproblem s .

Iwould like to say here that lot of problem s

would be so lved and also m y fascist friends .

who are around here. would not have a

ground if we had

PROF . RAMGENESHKAPSE: S ir. we

are not fascists . (Interruptions)

SHRIEDUARDO FALEIRO : Why did

he arise? l have not m entioned.

PROF . RAMGANESHKAPSE:We are

not fascists . Who are fascists here? con

gressm enare fascists .

SHRIEDUARDO FALEIRO : Iwill support you. ldo not know how farit is taken. But

it is m y conviction. If youall agree that all

people of India are fundam enta lly Hindus . in

a fundam ental sense. that is my conviction

and what Ibelieve in.

hrs .

As far as ph ilosophy and ethos are

concerned. whateverm ay be ournames or

MAY 28 . 1990 As Passed

C onvers ionfrom one fa ith to a

did not change the socio - eco

status of a person. It was. the

desirable that converts from Schr

C astes to Buddh ism . C hrist ianit

shouldbetreatedasScheduled C :

Th is em inent person in Prof. I

Dandavate . the F inance Minister. Hthat C hristians m ust be treated as E

uled C astes . He sa id th is ina Report 3

ted by a C om m iss ionset up by h is Gm entand its alliedparties .nam ely . theI

C om m iss ionReport .

SHRIKALKADAS (Karo lBagh ) :

personalview.

SHRIEDUARDO FALEIRO : Iwilto h is im personalview also ina 3900

sa id th is inParagraph Now. let

what is the view of the Manda lGomn

wh ich is not personal.

Paragraph says :

languages . th is is my view in this re,

(Interruptions) It is not necessary cwelcom ing it . It is not foryouthat lam

this . It is as m uch yourconcernwhich iof m ine also . We are all sharing goo

had th ings bas ica lly . Iam surprised I

ourcountry we do not accept such 1mentaltruths and a lot of problem s co

solved itwe rea lise th is fact . Now.we a

onthat po int . What we are ta lk ing atthatth is discrim inatesunreasonably an

to the tens ions and conflicts as faras

lim s and Christians are concerned . T

lim ited . Instead of us ing m y ownwor

m eusesom e otherwords .which evenin th is House will accept . There is a

em inent personwho stated thus :

"

There is no doubt that socia lan

os tional backwardness am ongHinducom m unit ies is m ore or

the sam e orderas among Hind i

munit ies . Thoughcaste system isliarto Hindusociety. yet inactua

tice . it also pervades the non

com m unities inIndia invarying ds


(Am end. Bill

[Sh . Eduardo Fa leiro]

just quote from what a very em inent columnist Shri Prem ShankarJ ha says intoday

’

s

tim es of India underthe caption: Roots of

Kashm ir’

s Alienation. We are now try ing tofind out the roots of Muslim a lienationthere .

Inthe colum n. he says :

“InKashm irm ilitancy is not bornout to

poverty oreconom ic deprivation. but of

the despa irof a sm all. select group of

young people. who form a new but dis

inherited m iddle class .

”

Theninterm s of em ploym ent . What he

says is that it is lack of em ploym ent opportunities . He says :

“Every onecannotbecom eanentrepreneur. m uch less a successfulone . Thus

there has also com e into being growingclass of job seekers that is look ing

specifically forsalaried em ploym ent .”

He continues further:

“Part icularly ga lling to the young edu

catedMuslim s is the fact that theoff ices

of the bank and the private sector

com panies inKashm irare also staffed

overwhelm ingly with people from out.

s ide Kashm ir. and Kashm iri pandits .

Kashm iri Muslim s have obta ined jobs .but these are concentrated at the lower

end of the scale. Accusat ions of Indian

colonia lism are rooted squarely inthisem ploym ent pattern.

”

The bas ic problem is em ploym ent .Please do just ice. It is a problem foreveryIndian; Iknow that. There is lack of employm ent opportunit ies foreverybody ; we mustunderstand it . But there is particularlack of

em ploym ent opportunit ies form inority comm unities . particularly certa inm inority communif ies .

WhenIwas inthe bank ing . lwas veryhappy to see that wewere able to do som e

thing . Ihad not done anything . m y officers

did that . This was because Itook the C ha ir

MAY 28 . 1990

With these words . Iurge the G

m ent and Idem and that justice be donot be populist. do not try to get vote

here and there . Do justice. work 0

C iples . wh ich youarenot do ing . Iwill.

fore. absta inonth is Bill. Isay. neo - Bur

must be given. but unless youg ive

Muslim s and C hristians . Iwill absta

less. of course . Government acce|am end.which . if they are fa ir. theywil

bring theirownam endm ent.

AN. HON. MEMBER: That m eal

support is conditional.

SHRIEDUARDO FALEIRO : N

port is not cond itional. lam absta inin

not supporting this Bill. Iwill absta in

they include Muslim s and C hrist ians

par.

Transla tion]

As Passed

by Rajya Sabha

m anof the Minority C om m iss ionto Kandwe had a m eeting . Im ust say that

across a llcom munit ies . the people c

are aga instdiscrim ination. this is becs

ofus havesuffered discrim inationour.

Intheclonialrule . noneofus .whether

tians . Hindus orany othercom m unit

offered opportunities at parwith theor

ists . We were also under the boot

colonialists . We are aga inst d iscrim

aga inst anybody .

Inview of th is . this Bill is good ir

but it is go ing to create more probien

it would solve. Th is is because i hdiscrim inationof as faras the Muslir

Hindus are concerned . There is unn

able discrim ination. l hope. the Su

C ourt Strikes it downunderArticle

other provis ions . because it is unn

able.

SHRIKALKA DAS (Karol BagDeputy Speaker. S ir. Irise to extt

whole- hearted support to the C ons

(Scheduled C astes) Order(Am endm r

1990and a longwith it Iwould like to e

mygratitude to Shri Ram Vilas Ps sw.

the core of m y heart . forhis unt iring

C onst . (S . C . ) Orders JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) As Passed

(Am end. ) srrr

ich has resulted inthe introduct ion(if thiswhich should have been brought for

rd Iong bad t .

Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. the facilitiesng provided to the Scheduled C astes are

act. a com pensationfor the hum iliation

yhad suffered as untouchables forhun

ds of years inthe HinduSociety and thetacles that had blocked the way of their

elopm ent over the centuries . Like a

icon light. Dr Babasaheb Am bedkarwed them a way to com e out of that

m ess . In 1935 . he declared that itwaswith inh is powers to take birth as aHindu.

it was cert a inly with inhis controlnot toas a Hindu. That is why. In 1956. he

igwith his five lakh followers crossed to

foldofBuddhism at theDeekshantGroundlagpur. It is a h istoricalfact . that h itherto

rhere inthe world such a m ass conver

Ihad takenplace ina s ingle day and that

in such a peaceful m anner and this

oric stepwas takenby nonelse but by Dr.iasa heb Am bedkar. Secondly . even in

past the people had turned to the fold of

m orC hristianity but those who becam eslim s orC hristians wereconverted to the

gione itherat the gunpo int orfarcerta in

tarla i tem ptations from the Governm entlthey were g iventhe prom ised com forts

a ll those persons of Scheduled C astes

J stayed back to the fold’

of Hinduism .

rtinued to rem a inanoppressed and ex

ited lot .

Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. just now m yndwas say ing that the story ofeventhosewerted to Is lam orC hristianity is innowayerent from others . But here. Iwould like to

1whetherany untouchabi lity is pract isedhe Churches . where C hristians assem ble

prayers and serm ons? Iwould like to

rw from m y m us lim brethren whether

ouchability is practised inMosques and'

ga hs .

rns la tion]

SHRIEDUARDO FALEIRO : Iwould

just like to clarify . S ir. Every C hrist ian. eitherhere inth is House orelse-where. has got

som e orthe othercaste . C aste is stillpreva

lent and it is anunfortunate fact .

Transla tion]

Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. what Iwant Iwant to say is that these facilities are being

provided to the Scheduled C astes as a

com pensationforthe possess ion. that was

unleashed onthem overthecenturies . Whatis disappo inting is that those who are de

m anding the sam e facilities and privileges .

as are be ing enjoyed by the ScheduledC astes with in the Hindu fold. for Muslim s

and C hristians . have all long beenwork ingaga instthe interestsoftheScheduled C astes

and now they want to get all these facilitiesdiverted towards th is sect ion of people . I

believe that if these facilities are extended to

those who are convent - educated. well-or

ganised and have a ll along beenenjoy ingthe benefits ofconvers ion. itwould harm the

interests of the Scheduled C astes and the

neo - Buddhists , who have though m ade a lot

of sacrifices are presently not getting thebenefits of these facilities . Iwould be prejudicia lto the interests of theScheduled C astes .

Iwould like to subm it that thosewho havegotconverted into Buddhism have not ga ined

anyth ing . despite their im m ense sacrifices .

Though the sufferings that they had to undergo as Scheduled C astes have slightlym itigated afterconvers ion. they have beendeprived of the facilities that they were en

joy ing earlier. Unlike those. who got con

verted intootherreligions . theneo - Buddh ists

were not provided with any incentives ln

cluding one inrespect of the adm iss ionof

theirwards into convent schools . to pave the

way of the irupliftm ent . From that l under

stand that the m a inreasonand prim e objective of th is Bill is to provide facilities to the

neo - Buddh ists . who st illcontinue with those

age o ld politica l. socia land econom iccondi

t ions and a llthosewho arenot providedwith

any incentives despite the ir convers ion.

should be g iventhese facilities . That is the

purpose of th is B ill and those who are de

m anding the extens ionof these facilities to

C hristian and Mus lim converts are in fact


(Am end ) B ill

[Sh . Eduardo Faleiro]

harm ing the interestof the scheduled castes

andthey aredo ing injustice to tham becauseif these facilities are extended to them . Ifear

that the educated Christians and mus lim s .

who were brought up inanega litarian at

m osphere would cornerall the benefits andthescheduledcastes andtheNeo - Buddhists

would cont inue with their m iserable lot .

Natura lly . it would be prejudicia l to their

larger interests .

Iwould like to subm it that evennow theScheduledC asteHindus arebeing ill

- treated

They do not have any respect inthe society .

Buddhism is an inseparable part of Hindu

ism . Gautam a Buddha was a lso a Hindu

prince . He wiped away the dirt of evil practices and custom s . superstitions and con

servative andobscurantist dogm as from theaugeanstables ofHinduism andestablisheda refined and reform ed Hinduism . Ibelievethat it is one of the relig ions of this country . At

the t im e of his convers ion into Buddh ism .

Babasaheb Am bedkar explained the rea

sons forh is turning to the fold of Buddh ism .

In h is lectures and books he has broadlyenunciated the reasons forh is convers ionto

Buddhism alone andnot to anyotherrelig ion

because Buddh ism was anIndianrelig ion:

C hrist ians and Mus lim s asked h im to com e

to the fold of theirrelig ions . The Nizam of

Hyderabad evenwent to the extent of offering h im rupees 8 crore forthe upliftm ent of

h is com m unity provided he turned to the fo ldof Is lam but he rejected the offersay ing thatitwasnot a questionofm oney . but thatof the

country . Itwas a quest ionofnationalism . He

sa id that he would adopt only that relig ionwh ich had sprung up from the so il of th is

country . The feelings and sentim ents of Dr.

Am bedkarwouldbe realisedonlywhenthesefacilities are extended to theneo - Buddhists .

Had he not understood the im portance of

Buddh ism . its Indianidentity and its inseparable links with Hinduism . he could have

em braced Is lam or C hrist ianity . but he didnot turnto any foreignrelig ion. He got con

verted into Buddh ism because it had its roots

inthe so ilof th is country which was a lso thecradle of Buddh ism .


Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. Ibelievethis Bill introduced by theGovernm ent ismost appropriate one and all the facil

enjoyed by the Scheduled castes shoulm ade ava ilable to the Neo- Buddh ists r

Th is bill is incomplete conform ity withvis ionand aspirations of Babasaheb

bedkar. It would be im properto m ake

am endm ent. It will be an injust ice townthis sect ion.

Som e hon. Mem bers have given

suggestions inth is regard. But lwouldIil

quote these lines about theiract ion.

‘Woh Q atl bh l karate ha into Channah inhota

Ham aah bhli bharate ha in to htha inBadnam

’

.

Thus though they have com m ittr

grave crim e by m isguiding a sectior

m asses . but they donot confess it and

try ing foram endm ents inth is billso thatm ay m alignus and the Governm ent .

With these words Isupport the bill

KUMARI MAYAWATI (Brjnor) :Deputy Speaker. S ir. Iwould like tosom e suggestions regarding C onst itu

(Scheduled C astes ) Order (Am endm rB ill.

It is wellknownand as has beenstby severalearlierspeakers that Baba S t

Dr. Ambedkarhad declared that thougwas bornas a Hinduhe would not die

Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. Iheartily

port this billonbehalfof m yparty and m 1and oppose the m ove of C ongress to di

it through am endm ents . Theywould ha t

reply forit to the people . Now these pen

are bent upon harm ing that very ser

which has beenvoting them to power.

“

I

would be held answerable forit . Iwouleto em phas ise it once aga in that this

should not be tam pered. at alloritwoul

a great blowto the interest ofNeo Buddl

and scheduled caste people .


(Am end ) Bill

[Sh . G .M. Banatwa lla]

Ministerand this House towhatGandh ij i had

sa id . Gandhijl wrote in'Harijan' dated

Whether the Harrjan is nom ina lly a

C hrist ian. Mus lim or Hindu and now

S ikh . he is st ill a Harijan. He cannot'

change his spots inherited from Hindu

ism so called . He m ay change h is garb

and ca llh im self a C atholic Harijan. ora

Mus lim HarijanorNeo - Muslim orNeo ~

S ikh . but h is untouchability will haunth im during h is life

- tim e .

”

We . therefore, find that it is a fact that

m ore change of fa ith does not overnight

bring about analterationinthe status of the

person- socia l. educationa l or econom ic

status . Therefore. there is every logic inasking theGovernm ent to see that these

facilities or reservat ions or other conces

s ions are givento allthe Scheduled C astes

irrespective of the religionto wh ich they getconverted . A forceful plea has beenm ade

that Scheduled C aste converts to C hrist ian

ity. and Scheduled C aste converts to Islam

should a lso have the sam e benefit . Ihave

also com e before the House with anappro

priate am endm ent. and m ake a fervent plea

thatScheduled C asteconverts both to C hris

tianity and Islam should be included with in

the purviewof the B ill. looking at the injusticethat is there today .

There is an interesting book by Prof .Kande Prasad Rao . underthe title

“

Freedom

ofRelig ionforHarijans inIndia'. He has done

a lot of work . He says at page 8 :

As perthe law inforce . the status of a

Harijanvaries with the relig ionhe professes . A Harijan is at the m aximum

advantage if he professes the Hinduor

the S ikh relig ion; at a lesseradvantage

if he professes the Buddhist relig ion; at

a lesseradvantage if he professes the

Buddhist relig ion. and no advantage if

he professes the C hrist ianreligion.

"

Th is a lso ho lds true to a Mus lim

MAY 28 .1990 As Passed

SHRIKALKA DAS : If he becom es a

Mus lim . will they treat h im as untouchable?

SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (Mor

m ugao ) : He is anoppressorof a llrelig ions .

SHRIG . M. BANATWALLA: The orig inalSC m an. despite his convers ion. cont in

ues to beunderthesuppress ionandoppres

s ionof those who practise untouchab ility .

They m ake h is life difficult . He goes to drawwaterfrom a well. He m ay be a Mus lim , but .

orig ina lly . hewas a SC . Thosewho practise

untouchability. they oppress and suppress

h im . That is a fact of life wh ich has to be

therefore. m ade a strong plea that both the

Scheduled C aste converts into C hristianityand Islam m ust be brought with in the purview of the B ill. and they should a lso be

entitled to the reservations and facilities

ava ilable for the Scheduled C astes . Im ay

po int out here that the law accepts Mus lim s

am ong the Scheduled Tribes . There canbe

a Mus lim and there are Muslim s am ong the

STs . The Suprem e C ourt has a lso recog

nised this particular law. There are several

judgm ents to th is fact . Tim e is short . There

fore Iam not quot ing from them .

SHRIG . M . BANATWALLA: It is an

interruptionand Ihave y ielded to the hon.

Mem ber. Let the hon. m em berbe onrecord

and Isha llm eet the po int that he has ra ised

inthe hope that soonercounselwill preva il

upon him . though Iknow that th is hope is

go ing to be belied . There is no doubt aboutthe fact that Is lam does not recognise any

caste . A C hristianwillspeak forh is relig ion.

Iwill take h is words . As Iunderstand , the

C hristianity also does not accept of recognise Caste . The question is not whetherthese religions like Islam or C hristianity orBuddh ism orS ikhism . accept ca ste ornot ;

that is not a question. The fact rem a ins that

SC converts to these relig ions cont inue to be

under the wrath of those who profess un

touchability . Those who profess untouch

ability . they continue to oppress and sup

press and ill- treat the $03 irrespect ive of h is

be ing converted to som e otherrelig ion. The

life is m ade intolerable despite convers ion.

C onst. (S . C . ) Orders JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA)

understood . We here must not close our

eyes ; we have to see that socia l justice isdone to every sectionof oursociety .

Ihave a lso to say that the hon. Minister.

wh ile extending the reservation and other

facilit ies of SC to C hristians . to Buddh ists . to

Mus lim s and so on. must also correct the

various otheranom alies from wh ich the SC

people suffer today . Tim e does not perm it

me to speak m ore . Ihave already referred toa book writtenby the hon. Professor. Ihave

quoted him here . There are several ex

am ples . Forexam ple . take the questionofch ildren. the ch ildrenof a Harijanwom anwh o m arries a h igher caste Hindu Now

despite a fact that a SC wom anm arries a

h ighercaste Hindu and despite a fact that

she goes ina h ighercaste Hinduenviron

m ent. she continues to be treated as SC

m em ber. and rightly so . But thenthe questionof herchildrencom es up.

Execut ive orders m ake very arb itrarydiscn

'

m inations . that if the ch ildrenof such a

wom anare accepted inthe highersociety .theym aynotbe treated as Scheduled C astesbut if anych ild is not so accepted. hewillbe

cons idered as a Scheduled C aste . Now. a ll

these are very arb itrary discrim inat ions andthey discrim inate betweenone ch ild of the

parents from anotherchild of the sam e par

ents . Such discrim inations must a lso som e

to anend .

Before Iconclude . Imust say. that there

are m any people . a largenum ber. especia llythe Scheduled C astes them selves who do

not like to be called‘

Harijans'. They take theWord ‘

Harijan’as very derogatory . We m ustrespect the irsentim ents and the word

‘

Har

i jan’ should. therefore. be avo ided and we

m ust alwaysuse theword ‘

Scheduled C aste'

forthem .

Im ust po int out that som etim e back .

perhaps in1967or1968. theGovernm entofIrtd ia itself through various orders instructed

the departm ents not to use the word‘

Har

ii an'. Let that be followed .

As Passed

Transla tion]

SHRIRAMVILAS PASWAN: It is not soword

‘

Harijan'is urp arliam entary and the

correct words are‘

Scheduled C aste or

Scheduled Trb es'.

SHRIG . M . BANATWALLA: Ithank thehon. Minister very much . But despite the

fact . theword‘

Harijan'continues to be used .

So . m y po int is that eveninParliam ent

the use of this word inthe record must be

banned and the properword.

“Scheduled

C aste'should be used . Im ay referto youa

decis ionof the Press C ouncil of India that

was reported inthe publication.

"

lh e Press

C ouncil Of India : Review dated October.1989 at page 145 and the Press C ouncilwas

pleased to say.

“Theuseof theword

‘

Hanjan'should beavoided .

”

Now. S ir. you are very very im pat ientand. therefore. Iwould conclude. Iwould

only po int out by say ing that it is rather

unfortunate and very agonis ing that one ofthe hon. Mem bers here has deem ed it fit toinject dangerous com m unalovertones inh isspeech here before the House . He tried to

discrim inate betweenconvers ions to Buddhism and convers ions to Is lam and so on

and so forth and m ade sweeping and baseless a llegations that allconvers ions to Is lam

etc. . have beenby force . If that should have

beenthe s ituation. the Muslim s have ruled

overth is country fora thousand years andaftera thousand years . Muslim s would not

have rem a ined a m inority . as they are today .

(Interruptions )

S ir. please control them . Iheard them

with rapt attentionand they must a lso listento m e . They m ust a lso know the facts . Th is is

how there is anupsurge of com munalism in

ourcountry . (Interruptions)SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (Mor

m ugao ) : S ir. lam ona po int of order. Iwant

to seek a Clarif ication. (Interruptions )

C onst. (S . C . ) Orders MAY 28 . 1990 As Passed

(Am end ) Bill by Rajya Sabha

[Trans la tion] ( Transla tion)

SHRIKALKA DAS : They used to beconverted by force. (Interruptions)

SHRIBHOGENDRAJHA (Madhubani) :l have a po int of

SHRIG . M. BANATWALLA: Youm usthave pat ience to listen.

SHRIKALKA DAS : We won't listen

incorrect things .

SHRIBHOGENDRA JHA: Iwould like

to request thatwe allexpress ourview asweare free to do so but unfortunatelyhe (Interruptions)

SHRIG . M . BANATWALA: He is notready to listenourviews despite the fact that

we have listened to than.

SHRIBHOGENDRA JHA: Mr. DeputySpeaker. S ir. I am on a po int of

order. (InterruptrOns )

SHRIKALKADAS :Mr. Deputy Speaker.the country's History is a witness to the factthat during the reignof AllauddinKh ilj i andAurangzeb the Hindus were converted to

Is lam forcibly .

SHRIR.L . P. VERMA (Koderm a ) : Mr.Deputy Speaker. It cannot be tolerated it isourdirect

AN HON. MEMBER: Mr. DeputySpeaker. he is a that iswhy he is

ta lking like that .

SHRIG . M . BANATWALA: Aha ! Youhave not got the courage to listen. Interruptions )

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: l have al

lowed only Bhogendra J ha . The interruptions willnot of onrecord . (Interruptions)

"

Expunged as ordered by the cha ir.

SHRIBHOGENDRA JHA: Mr. DeputySpeaker. S ir. l am ona po int of order.

SHRI IBRAHIM SULAIMAN SAIT

(Manjeri) : Som ebody ca lled Shri Banatwa llaas That should be expunged .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: l have al

ready expunged it . Please take yourseat .

(Interruptions )

SHRIKALKADAS :Mr. DeputySpeaker.S ir. he is try ing to ignore the bitterfact thatHindus were forcibly converted during Aurangzeb

's tim e. (Interruptions)

SHRIDAUDAYALJOSHI Kota ) :Doeshe know that fore ignmoney work m illions ofrupees is being pum ped into India is he

aware as to how and forwhat purpose that

m oney is being used?This m oney is be ingused for religions convers ions . (Interruptions )

SHRIDAU DAYAL JHOSHI: He wascaus ing provocation rather than g iving a

reply. (Interruptions)

SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN

(Mursh idabad) : Objectionable words . if utterred by and person. should be expunged

from the records .What is bad init? Interruptions)

MRDEPUTY SPEAKER: Pleasedo notm ake provocat ive speeches as m ay result in

m ak ing a llegat ions and counter- allegat ions

from both the s ides . It is true that both the

part ies have a right to freedom of express ion

and speech but nobody should speak anyth ing a im ed at hurt ing the feelings of the

other party . Shri Banatwala was say ingsom eth ing inreply . He too enjoys the right tospeech . (Interruptions)


(Am end. ) Bill

[Sh . G .M . Banatwalla]

tat ionof h istory . But Iwillabideby yourrulingand will not go into the untruth that these

people tried to (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You havem ade that po int .

(Interruptions)

Transla tion]

SHRIKALKADAS :Mr. Deputy Speaker.S ir. now he is resort ing to the sam e overtone

aga in.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: He is well

with inh is right to rebut it .

(Interruptions)'

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Except Mr.Banatwa lla

’

s speech . noth ing elsewillgo on

record .

Transla tion]

Please be seated. Look , disorder iscreated as and whenyoutry to control the

Mem bers from there . Leave that task to the

persons itting inthe cha ir. He canwellm a in

ta inorder. Fourpersons rise to counteryourargum ent whenoveryou try to speak and

then there are replies and counter replies

from both the s ides . It is . therefore . betterto

a llow the cha into do it . Everyth ingwillbe setright. There will be no debate onth is issuenononwards . OnlyMr. Banatwallawillspeak .

[English]

SHRI LOKNATH C HOUDHURY

(Jagats inghpur) : Every Mem berbefore filinghis nom ination has takenthe oath forNa

tiona l integration. But. here . afterbecom ingtheMem bers of theHouse theyare speakingina com muna lovertone . So . it is the duty of

'Not recorded .


by Rajya Sabha

the House to prevent them from do ing so .

Nobody willbe allowed to subvert oursecular C onstitution. Our C onstitution is basedonsecularism . So anybody speaking with acom m unal overtone should be prevented

and theirspeeches should not be recorded .

SHRIG . M . BANATWALLA Ponnani) :

Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. wh ile m ak ing a

strong plea that Muslim s converted and

C hristians converted from Scheduled C astes

be included inthe previews of the B ill. Imust

a lso say that there need not be apprehen

s ions that the Scheduled C astes persons

will sufferinm atterof theirreservat ions . An

attem pt has beenm ade here to crea te an

a larm am ong the Scheduled C astes that if a ll

these Scheduled C as tes converted into

C hristians . Scheduled C astes converted into

Mus lim s are also broughtwith inthe purviewof the B ill. thenthe reservat ionand facilities

of the present Scheduled C astes Hindus

and S ikhs will suffer. Anattempt has beenm ade to provoke them . Iam sure that such

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ithink , first of

all. youwillnotpro long th is d iscuss ion. If you

prolcng thediscussiononthes ide issues the

m a in issue will be s ide- tracked . So . Iwill

seek the cooperationof a ll the hon. Mem

bersnot to ra ise anym ore po ints oforderandnot to ra ise any m orediscuss ions onthe s ide

issues . Now.with the spirit wh ich is con

ta ined inyourstatem ent. the entire House

would agree . Itwould be fora llthe Mem bers

to speak insuch a fash ionthat not only thefeelings of the Mem bers are not hurt but as ituat ionis notcreated because ofwh ich thenational integration or the unity aspect is

a lso not hurt. This applies to a ll the Mem

bers . Allthe sam e. som et im es advertentlyorinadvertently if som ebody has sa id som e

th ing . it is goodforhim towithdraw. Ifhedoes

withdraw inwe cantake care of it . Inm anycases it isnot good todwelluponsuch issues

infashionthat it is em phas ised. too m uch .

But. with the spiritwh ich is conta ined inyourstatem ent . Ith ink theHousewillagree . Now.

no m ore discuss ions onthe s ide issues . Mr.

G . M. Banatwalla to continue.

C onst . (S . C . ) Orders JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) As Passed

attempts willbe inva in. We canalways haveschem es to take care of the fact that the

extensionof the purv iew of the Billdoes not

rob ordoes not eat into the reservat ion. as at

present are enjoyed by the present sectionsof th e Soc iety . Detailed schem es canalwaysbe work ed upon. We are herediscuss ing the

principle onwh ich the ent ire m atter should

be look ed into . And theprinciplepropounded

by the hon. Minister. as Ihad sa id at the

beg inning of m y speech here. is a healthy

principle . It is a sound principle . But. let h im

not be a reluctant personto do socialjust iceto all th e sect ions of the people . Of course . I

have m y ownam endm ent wh ich Isha ll be

m ov ing at the appropriate tim e and Ihope

that th e Governm ent and the House willextend its approbat ion to that part icular

am endm ent .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Jagpa lSingh .


(Mursh idabad ) : S ir. Ifa il to understand whyyouare not ca lling Mr. Prem Pradeep.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: How do youtake that Iam not ca lling h im ?What m akes

yousay that? Iwill ca ll h im when his turn

comes . Please s it down. Don’

t worry . Iwillcallhis .

SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN:According to party strength . we are fourth .

Sir.

DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is not like that .Iwill ca ll h im . Please do not m ake th is

unnecessary statem ent .

SHRISYEDMASUDALHOSSAIN:Youhave first ca lled the Mem bers of the B .S .P.

andthe Muslim League .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER:Yes . they are9180Mem bers . Youcannot have anyobjeciIOnis that .

Translation]

SHRI IBRAHIM SULAIMAN SAIT

(Manjeri) : Th ere is no such thing like cas

teism etc. inIslam .

SHRIJAGPAL SINGH: Isha llg ive youanexam ples . whetherit is Islam orC hrist ian

ity. they cannot rem a inuntouched by it . Themost im portant C haracteristics of Hindure

lig ion are C asteism and

(Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If youwantthe speak without interruptions . please

address the cha ir.

SHRIJAG PAL SINGH (Hardwar) : Mr.

Deputy Speaker. S ir. Irise to support the

const itutionAm endment Bill. 1990. brought

inforsuch Harijans and Scheduled C asteswho got converted to Buddh ism som e 26 - 27

years ago . ofcourse .with som e suggest ions

and am endm ents ; and would like to thank

Shri Paswan for tak ing a tim ely band an

appropriate step by bringing into shape theage olddem andof the people of the countrythat Neo - Buddh ists should be g ivenallsuch

facilities and concess ions as are enjoyed byHindu-Harijans . With the introductionof theBill. one thing has becom e clear. and forthatIwould like to address the m enfrom B . S . P.

inparticular. that casteism and untouchab il

ityare theonlyattributes of theHinduSabha .

Th is is the reason beh ind the advent of

C hrist ianity and Islam in our country and

casteism and untauchability crept into them

as well.

SHRIJAGPALSINGH Anevilh im been

polluting our Society for the last several

thousands of years . Mayawati is present

here . Iwould like to tellthe people belongingto B .S .P. thatwith the introductionof this billit has becom e clear that . convers ion is nosolution to C aste ism and untouchability .

C onvers ionis no IOngerrelevant forbring ingabout econom ical and social developm ent .It th is bill is supported by the parties like theB .S .P. then it becom es clear that the eco

nom icand socialstatus of harrjans cannotbe

im proved through convers ionthoughl sup

C onst. (S. C . Orders

(Am end ) Bill

[Sh . Jagpa lS ingh]

port this bill Yet Iwould say that Shri

Paswah is also a part of Hindurelig ionand

h is Hinduism is C learly m anifest inh is m ov

ing th is b illhe has lots forharijanconverbutno love forthoseharijans convert C hristians .

forharijanconvert Muslim s . He should have

brought this constitutional am endm ent bill

m uch earlier. Inone of the Articles of the

const itut ion it has been stated that Hindu

religionwellcom prise of S ikh ism Buddh ism

and Ja inism and of no other relig ion. He

should have given equal status to a ll the

Harijanswhetherconverted intochrist ianias.Muslim s orBuddh ists otherwise th is bill ismeaningless .

The neo - Buddhists . launched anag ita

tion dem anding that they should a lso be

provided with such facilities as have been

extended to Schedule C astes and Sched

uled Tribes . The South IndianHarijans whohave converted them selves into C hristians

and those of the North Easternreg ioncon

verted into C hristianity have a lso beenag itat ing forthe past twenty five to th irty yearsdem anding s im ilarfacilit ies . Such dem ands

are reported inthe press da ily . It the irsocial

andeconom icconditions havenot im proved

despite converting into Buddhism . what it is

the guarantee that they will im prove now.

Th is Billdoesnotconta inanyprovis ionwh ich

m ay help erad icate the casteism and un

touchabilityprevalent inthecountry . C anhe

guarantee that the level of socia l and eco

nom icdevelopm entofNeo Buddh ists sh ould

be brought at parWith otherpeople inthesociety . After extend ing a few facilities to

those Harijans . He has kept no such provi

s ioninthis bill. If youextend these facilities

to lakhs and crores of neo - Buddhists then

youshould a lso th ink interm s of increasing

the reservations quota forHarijans . otherwise it will affect the prospects of harijans .

Paswanj i . Irequest youto pay m ore attentiontowards theirdevelopm ent of this com

munity after bringing this bill. At present .despitework ingfortwelve to e ighteenhours .

wearing tornClothes and facing starvation

we are not givendue respect inth is country .

The need of the hour is that we should be


l am com pleting m y speech but be

that Iwish to say one thing explo itat io

feudal stillcontinues inthe country ancworst affected are the people belong ie

weakersect ions . the Harijans . The Gov

m ent m ust take adequate steps to r

feudalexplo itation. Inthe ruralareas it h i

to be ensuredthatpeopleget theirfullwe

and land reform s should be underta

Th is canhelp inbring ing about socia leconom icdevelopm ent. m erely movingwould be of no use. As such Iwould

uponShri Paswanto ensure that allHari

get s im ilar facilities irrespective of the

whether they are C hristianconvertly Ilim s orHindus . So that a ll of them ca

brought at parwith othercom munities .

[English]

SHRI IBRAHIM SULAIMAN f

(Manjeri) :Mr. DeputySpeaker. S ir. the r‘

Harijan'should not be used It is unp:

mentary. It cannot be used. They shoulcalled as Scheduled C astes and Sched

Tribes . The hon. Mem berhas beenus ini

givendue respect inthe country and yos

succeed inextend ing th is respect only in

youare ina pos it ionto bring about econ:developm entof22 crorepeople belong ir

Schedule C astes and Schedule Tril

Presently a sense of hatred not aga instindividual but towards whole Harijancm unity has developed inthe Hindurelicwhetherhe is a C hrist ian. a Buddh is t

Hindu. hatred forthem is deep rooted ir

bloodof C asteHindus . Paswanj i . Ihad a :Shri P. Upendra to cancelthe transferonof one Shri Sh iv Kum arwho is a De

D irectorinA.I.R. and is a heart pat ient . I

days ago he fell downfrom a bus anc

ceived injuries but h is transferwas not icelled whereas Shri Upendraji has h incancelled the transferof foursuch pers

wh hadbeenperm tted as Directors . As 3

Iwant to say that th is is the root course .

tell the Ministers that atrocities are b

com m itted onHarijans . but yourMinis

are not prepared to listento us . (Inter

tions) The need of the houris to im proveeconom ic and socialstatus of these pec


(Am end ) Bill

[SHRIMATIGUTAMUKHERJIE in theC ha ir]

C ONSTITUTION (SC HEDULED C ASTES .

ORDERS (AMENDMENT) BILL

As passed by Ra jya Sabha C ontd.

Transla tion]

SHRIPREMPRADEEP (Nawada ) :Hon.

Mr. C ha irm an. S ir. Iuse to support the con

stitut ion(Scheduled C astes )Orders (Am endm ent) B ill. 1990. Th is B ill has beer. introduced inconnectionwill the status of neo

Buddh ists . onit and a d iscuss ionis go ing on

before speak ing ontheB ill. Iwould like to saysom eth ing about Dr. Am bedkar

Dr. B . R. Am bedkarwas a learned per

sonand a lega l lum inary . He was a great

th inkerand the com m unity inwh ich he was

born had been the target of trem endous

oppress ionexplo itationand discrim inat ion.

During h is schooling . he was m ade to s it

outs ide the classroom . Evenwhenhe went

to pract ise at the barorwas inthe m idst of

relig ious people he m etwith stiff appos ition.

U lt im ately he got recognitiononly whenthe

po ints ra ised by h im attracted public atten

tion.

The people whom we ca ll scheduled

C astes and Scheduled Tribes are actua lly‘

Ad ivas is’

. These are the orig ina l inhabitants

of Ind ia a lthough today they are counted

am ong Scheduled C astes and Scheduled

Tribes . Iwould like to give the definit ionof a

Scheduled C aste . It is a willknownfact that

HinduSociety does not accountequa lstatusto Scheduled C astes who are treated as

untouchables . There are 23 reasons for

th is . As Isa id they were the origina l inhabi

tants of th is area and it is quite poss ible thatthey were living in tribes . But when other

people cam e to this area som e of them went

to the jungles and are today ca lledAdivas is .

Others who stayed in the area are ca lled

Scheduled C astes . Thesepeoplewerem ade

slaves and everyone knows what type of

work theywere com pelled to do . Eventodaythese people carry right so ilontheirheads .

MAY 28 .1990 As Passe

by Rajya Sabb

It is sa id that people areconver

one relig ionto anotherby coercioneverbe the religion. At that tim e lsla

newreligionwith anewspirit .Whenauled C aste person converted to I

was accorded an equa l socia l stecould read

'nam az drawwaterfrom tl

well and s it inthe com pany of oth ifounders of ourC onstitution. part ici .

Am bedkar. were disturbed overthes ionfaced byo these people due to a

of econom ic m eans . lack of socia l r

tionand non- ava ilability of educatir

portunities .

There have beenplenty of argonth is subject inth is House . Forthe

argum ent we say that if a ca ste Hin

ries a Harijangirlthe irch ild would bras a Scheduled C aste person. Aftr

tim e it is poss ible that a ll castes

treated as one . Every State does nocom m onyardstick to Class ify various

Whentheconstitutionwas beingspeacila provis ionwere m ade forI

Scheduled C astes and Scheduled

But even43years afterIndepender

problem s have not been so lved a

such a length of tim e is m ore than3

to bring about a sea - Change inany 3Eventoday they are landless . uneand socia lly backward . Th is is a r

don't want to go into deta ils but

Harijanentered a tem ple . the tem

later washed to restore its sanctit

does th is prove? Inthese Chang ingstances . we have introduced a Billtr

the const itutionwith view to provid ir

cilit ies to neo - Buddh ists . We will. of

support th is B ill but at the sam e

cannot ignore these various po ints

wh ich have beenexpressed inth isIt isnot thatDr. Am bedkarsuddenly rh is religionand switched overto Bu

Perhaps the idea struck h im when

fram ing the C onstitution. Laterin19!specialcircum stances m ade him C h .

‘

relig ion But the essence of the do

this subject is that Harijans rem a intected whetherthey change theirrenot.


(Am end ) Bill

m e castes have a Scheduled C aste

s inWest Benga lthey m aynot have theasta tus inB iharorU . P. So the question3 regarding their socia l status and

om ic condit ion. Ihave received letters

m any relig ious leaders stating thatours

secularcountry and that otherrelig ionsId a lso get the sam e facilities which the

C onst itut ionAm endm ent B illproposes

re followers of Buddh ism . Ith ink other

i . a lso have rece ived such letters .

The relig ious leaders have appealed to

rl.Ps . to ra ise this issue inParliam ent .

we are d iscuss ing whetherto support

fillornot . Wecannot ignore the fact thatr have been m any people who haveerted to Buddh ism s ince the tim e ofDr.

edkar. But th is does not m eanthat we

rld not support th is Bill. We are infavouris C onst itutionAm endm ent and would

rllMem bers to pass it with a vo ice vote .

:h a B ill is brought by the others ideorbyligious leader. be it aGovernm entBillorivate B ill. we shall definitely cons iderhersuch a provis ioncanbe included in

ionstitut ionornot. (Interruptions)

MR. C HAIRMAN: Please finish intwo

tes .

SHRIPREM PRADEEP: All Mem bersfee to express the irviews inth is House .

em arkable tonote that in1956 . five lakh

ons converted to Buddh ism a longwith

im bedkar. But no facility is ava ilable tor. Dr. Am bedkar. one of the founders of3onst itut ion. has clarified cert a inpo ints

supposeneo- Buddhists havealso been

tioned by him Iwhole- heartedly support

Bill. With thesewords . Iend m y speech .

SHRIM . SELVARASU(Nagapa ttisum ) :

C ha irm an. S ir. Iwhole heartedly weleand support the C onstitut ion(SchedC astes ) Order(Am endm ent) Bill. 1990.

ngratulate the Governm ent and the

starforbringing th is tim ely m easure .

It was in1956. Scheduled C astes who

JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) As Passed

by Rajya Sabha

were oppressed and suppressed converted

to Buddh ism underBabasaheb Am bedkar.

Theywereca lledNeo - Buddh ists . TheseNeo

Buddhists though liberated from the socia l

taboos ofbeing ca lledHarijans . could not be

liberated from the econom ic backwardness .

Th is econom ic backwardness is the m a in

cause of the ir social backwardness and.

therefore. the Minister has rightly broughtforward the B ill for including them in the

Scheduled C astes List . lwelcom e the m easure.

S im ilargrievance exists inthe case of

Scheduled C aste converts to C hristianity .

C onvert C hristians should also be included

inthe Scheduled C aste List . C onvert C hristians are still econom ica lly backward. Their

lot canbe im proved only if they are given

concess ions . I. therefore . stronglyurgeuponthe Governm ent to m ove anam endm ent tothis B illforinclus ionof convert C hristians in

the Scheduled C aste List .

InTam ilnadu. a large num berof NariKuravas are inpoorcondition. Nari Kuravas

lead nom adic life . Their condit ion can be

im proved only if they are included in the

Scheduled C aste List .

Dhobies and barbers also belong to

poorand downtroddensect ions of the sod

ety . Insom eStates . dhob ies andbarbers areOppressed and insulted . Invillages . they arenot a llowed to draw waterfrom wells ; theyare not a llowed evento walk inthe streets

where h igh caste people live. Forsm all sr

rore. these poorClasses are punished se

verely by village panchayats dom inated byh ighercastes . I. therefore. request the hon.

Ministerto include both these com m unities

inthe Scheduled C aste L ist.

SHRIP. PENC HALLIAH (Nellore) : Are

barbers anddhobies suffering from untouchability?

MR. C HAIRMAN: Please do not inter

SHRIM. SELVARASU: Ia lso like to

m ake an appeal onbeha lf of blacksm iths .

C onst. (S . C . ) Orders MAY 28 . 1990 As Pas sed

(Am end. B ill

[Sh . M. Selvarasu]

Blacksm iths are the weakest sect ion of

society invi llages . They should be rehabilitated with special concess ions . For th is

purpose. they should be included in the

Scheduled C aste List.

S ir. we"

have passed severa l legisla

tions tocurb atrocities onScheduledC astes .

But these laws are not being im plem ented

properly . Irequest the Governm ent to constitute specia lm onitoring cells inevery District to watch the im plem entat ionof the pro

vis ions .

We arevery proud that th isGovernm ent

has constituted specia lcourts to try offences

aga inst Scheduled C astes . Irequest theGovernm ent to place onthe Table a quar

terly review of the funct ioning of the specia l

courts ineach State . That would keep us

a lways inform ed and we can suggest im

provem ents inthe m atter.

We should a lso see that wh ile nam ing

nationalm onum ents . publicplaces .Govern

m ent build ings -whetherState Governm ent

or C entra l Governm ents - streets etc. . we

should. inno case, m entionthe caste along

with nam es . Ex isting caste nam es from the

nam es of streets . public places and monu

m ents should be dropped by anexecutive

order.

Not only that. To help the StateGovernm ents to form ulate and im plem ent specia l

program m es for the welfare of Scheduled

C astes . specialgrants shouldbeprovided to

State Governm ents . Also . it m ust be seen

that a specified percentage of State Plan

allocationshould be compulsorily spent onwelfareofScheduled C astes andScheduled

Tribes .

With these words . Iconclude .

SHRIHUKUMDEC NARAYANYADAV

(S itam arhi) : Madam . Ithank hon. Shri . Ram

Vilas Paswan for bringing th is Bill. wh ich

m aynot look exhaustive but thepo ints beingexpressed inthis context are ofgreat im por

"

Sat saiyanke dohre jonnavak ktDekhanmeinchhote Iaage ghaon

gam bh ir"

Th is Billwillhave a serious impact

im plies that evenafterpeople belongi

Scheduled C astes and Scheduled'I

convert to anotherrelig ion. they shou]

the sam e facilities as before.

Isha ll not level a llegations on ar

because we do not understand the

m eaning of relig ion. Idon’

t believe thareligious devout do not have dispa rity.

ity and discrim inationintheirm inds . Wcom muna land are involved inpetty cornal m atters . that is why we see dual

everyth ing and ourex istence appearsindanger. Iwould like to say that if ar

adopts a religionwith genuine fa ith h

nounces worldly des ires because itquest ionof fa ith . If he converts to an

relig ionbecause of money lust . cravingworld fam e anddes ire form a le issue thr

is constantlyobsessed by the appreherof a fa ll. On the other hand. adoptir

antherreligionbasedonfa ith frees him

such fears and helps h im m ake prog

The m eaning of relig ionis to strengths

bond between fellow hum an beings

remove discrim inat ion. There would t

tens ionifwebuild a societywhere therediscrim ination. It is pleas ing tonote thaf

hon. shri Banatwalla and hon. Shri F

havedem anded that Scheduled C aste

Scheduled Tribes people who conveh

Islam orC hristianity beg iventhe sam e sfacilities that were being givento then

lier. Now we have reached that stagr

what are reasons for that? The pe

belong ing to the Scheduled C astes

Scheduled Tribes get specia lopportL

because of the C onstitut iona l and

provis ions m ade undervarious laws I

Governm ent and the House . Today

personls trying forh is inclus ioninthe

gory of the Scheduled C astes and S

uled Tribes and a num berof applic:

havebeenreceived inBiharforthis pm

Th is is so happening because persorlong ing to the Scheduled C astes and S

uled Tribes have beeng ivenspecia lctunit ies underthe constitution. But why

C onst. (S . C . ) Orders MAY 28 . 1990

(Am end. ) em

[Sh . Hukumdeo NarayanYadav]

a leaderto th is daywho could rise to the rank

of a C abinet Minister. right from the days ofPandit Jawahar Lal Nehru to the presentreg im e of Shri Vishwanath Pratap S ingh .

lnspite of that facility reservat ion if these

castes have not been able to produce a

leaderof that stature . We sha llhave to th inkina new directionto analyse as to why the

ta lent of this class of peoplecouldnot see its

fullbloom inspite of the facility orreservationandwhere lies the bas icfault . (Interruptions)That is what Iam say ing . Howeverthequestionis as to who is respons ible for it .

MR. C HAIRMAN: Mr. Yadav. please

conclude .

SHRIHUKUMDEC NARAYANYADAV:

Iam just concluding . Iam say ing who isrespons ible for it .

Papi kaunm anuj se uska nyaya churane va la .

Ya kinyaya ko khojatevighanka sheeshudane va la

”

.

The Governm ent shall have to identifythose who are respons ible forit . Is it not our

m isfortune? Iwould like to request ShriRamVilas Paswanthat now it is theGovernm ent

of Janta Daland it should not confine reservation to the Governm ent jobs only . The

Governm ent hasnot beenable toprovide fullbenef its or reservation to the persons belonging to theScheduledC astes andSched

uled Tribes forwhom there are already provis ionunderthe lawwh ile onthe others ide.

where reservation is not restricted by law.

the Governm ent does not adopt a liberal

att itude towards them . Please tellm e if any

po lit ica lparty adopts a libera lattitude to offerseats in the Rajya Sabha and the State

Leg is lative C ouncils to the persons belonging to the Scheduled C astes and Scheduled

Tribes?We thecasteHindus . cla im to be the

wort h iest people and th ink others to be

unworthy of becom ing the Mem ber of theRajya Sabha and the State Legislative

C ouncils . What will they get by these policies? Even inothercom m ittees constituted

As Passed

underthe various Departm ents of theernm ent from tim e to tim e. there is no

s ionof reservation for these categor

people so the off ice of the C ha irm ana

Mem bers is never offered to the pebelonging to the Scheduled C aster

Scheduled Tribes . Thenwhat is the r

th is reservation?

Madam C ha irm an. Iam justconclA leader carries with h im the idea .

im press ions he inherits from h is caste.

and the society where he was borrdeveloped . All these tra ils wh ich cont

to the shaping of his personality bebinding onh im and hecannot see beySo we have to free ourcountry fromevil ways and to inculcate new we

enable th is country go ahead onthe pprogress . Therefore a Billshould be sir

neously introducedwith th is bill. seekir

reservationforthe persons belong ingScheduled C astes and Scheduled

not only inthe Lok Sabha . State LegitAssem blies and the Governm ent jota lso inthe cabinet because youshouto it that five to tenpersons of a par

caste m ay becom e Ministers but eve

persons from am ongst theHarijans anrcannot be g iven that prest ig ious ple

personof Scheduled Tribe cannot bea cabinetMinister. Iwould like to requr

Governm ent to provide specia l oppi

ties to the people belonging to the S

uled C astes . Scheduled Tribes . Bac

classes m inorit ies and womeninthe

m ak ing com m ittees and the recruit in

appo inting agencies such as Public SC om m iss ion. Univers ity Service C os ionand the Ra ilway Board . Withoutcountry willnot progress . The Govercanconsole them selves by m ak ing

laws but like his forfathers the youth r

generation are not to be swayed bytem ptations of theGovernm ent . We vknow if he is seized of the irdubious wexplo itat ion of the Governm ent be

genuine intent ions need not be sub

ated by laws . Being it otherwise no

go ing to giveus ourrights . Therefore

required at the m om ent is to create 2

the persons belong ing to those ca ter

C ons t. (S . C . ) Orders

(Am end ) Bill

rits of leadership and to bring them in

m t line of the leaders . Iwould like to

rurpardonto say thatvery fewpersons

; ing to the Scheduled C astes and

luled Tribes are s itting inthe front rowHouse and the persons of Backward

as are not to be found there . It a leader

;e categories is not to be here.whowill

J l'them ? Iwould therefore like to call

:he personof uppercastes to give up .

eats powerontheirown. Iwould also

that be ing of otherwise the persons

ging to the Scheduled C astes . Sched‘

ribes . m inorities and the wom enwill

forward to capture it forcibly from them .

hese words . Iconclude.

'HRIGOPINATH GAJAPATHI(Berur) zMadam C ha irm an. Iwish to m ake

pecific representations inconnect ion

the C onstitution (Scheduled C asts )5 (Am endm ent) Bill. 1990 m oved by

rnam ic hon. Minister for Labour andre. Shri Ram Vilas Paswan.

here are certa inbackward classes of

rnt religions .who s ince ages . continue

ndeprived andunder-developed lot. in

cant num bers of overthree lakhs . in

stricts of Ganjam . Koraput and Phul

of Oris sa State .

urt her. there is also anotherclass of

nenonthe coasta lreg ions ofGanjamrof Orissa State predom inantly inthe“

pur and C hatrapur Assem bly segThese poor and oppressed lot of

men. depend onfishing fortheirliveli

However. they are being subjected toIhardsh ipby the big industrialhouses .

rave takento fish ing as a m ajorbus iact ivity us ing deep- sea trawlers . The

ss fisherm en. with theirsm a llcountryare no m atch vis - a - vis the industria l

and are thus underconstant oppres

Jrtheirbas ic livelihood.

hese backwardclasses and the fisher

are treated as untouchables and are

inhum an treatm ent . Evennow. theyring offended at public places like hochools . shops rivers . wells . etc. Bas ic

JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) As Passed 102

by Rajya Sabha

needs like education. hea lth facilities . jobselectricity. water supply and other social

am enities arenot provided to them . They arethus denied equality and social justice . Till

date. they are landless . bonded labourersand as a result. their hopes . aspirations .

skills and potentialities are dashed to the

ground .

It canbe seenthat tillnow. no relig ion.

party orgovernm ent has beenable to helpfree the backward classes and fisherm en

from econom ic bondages and accord themsocio -econom icdevelopm ent . Program m es

and schem es should be form ulated foreco

nom ic rehabilitationof the under-developed

lot . Laws aga inst untouchability should alsobe strictly enforced to enable this sectionofdeprived people to live like norm a l hum an

beings .

Iwould. therefore. urge uponthe Gov

ernm ent. through youMadam C ha irperson.

to enact necessary legislation for recognition of the under- developed backward

classes and also the poor, oppressed fisher

m enof Orissa State particularly during thecurrent birth centenary yearof Baba SahebAm bedkarj i .

SHRIS . BENJAMIN (Bapatla ) : Pro a

long time Icould observe inthis House the

anxiety andconcernthat is expressedwharever there are atrocities on harijans and

Scheduled C aste people. And . l am greatlyindebted and grateful to those people whohave shown a great concern for the well

being of the Scheduled C aste people whoare spread from Him alyas to C ape C am orin.

There is onplace inthe h istory to tellforwhatreasons this untouchability has com e intobeing .We haveno such authority to speak ofcourse . We are the aborigina ls of th is country as anhon. Mem berhas expressed and

severa l people cam e to this country and

invaded it . Perhaps a greater num ber of

people have com e from the Hindus idewho

thought to be the m ajority of this countryland . But . we are the nat ives andwe are the

patriots . There is no doubt about ourloya ltyso faras ourpatriotism is concerned.

C onst. (s . c. ) Orders MAY 23 .1990 As Passed 104

(Am end . Bill

[Sh . S . Benjam in]

It so happened thatwe were drivenour

from ourgrounds and abodes . The profos

s ions thatwere givento us m adeus . evento

th is day. as ifwe are living a lm ost below the

poverty line . Theprofess ions thatwere left to

us are m iserable. We have to be the guards

of crem ationgrounds . We have to rem ove

the carcass . We have to rem ove the night

so il. Those are the profess ions that were

given to us as if they were do ing a great

m ercy . Under such circum stances . it so

happened thatwewere reduced alm ost like

beggars of the State . In that condition. a

quest ionhas arisen: “If religioncanbe takenas a ground . first discrim inationhas to stop.

’

As beggarsof theState.we haveapproached

at the tem ple. we have approached at the

m osque andwe have a lso approachedat thechurch . But who is respons ible forthis condit ion? Im ust say. the com muna ldifference

that was shown, the discrim inationthat was

showntous . m ust have beenrespons ible fora llthese th ings . So . while go ing to tem ples

a lso Iam d iscrim inated . But from centuries

back— l can say a m illennium - l was dis

crim inated anduntouchabilitywaspract ised.

So a long as untouchability is pract ised. to

wh ich com m unity Ibelong to it . willnot be am atterforcons ideration. But fortunately, the

Governm ent has brought about a Bill. theObjects and Reasons of which were clearlystated. as a pre

-concept forcons iderat ion.

What is the concept? Relig ionhas not inanyway brought about a developm ent or a

change in the econom ic and socia l cond i

tions of the depressed classes or to the

untouchables . Perhaps th is concept ionm ust

have to be revised and re - thought of.

The true nature orthe relig ious concep

tionis not socialoreconom icbut som ething

else and that is . a com m unionwith God.

consciousness developm ent and a clear

perceptionof the creator is the m eaning of

the religion. 80 . through religion. we com

municate forthe sa lvat ionof the soulandnot

forthe socialorthe econom ic developm ent

of the country . The criterion or the m a in

object of relig ionorthe end of the relig ionistransmutationof life . Atransm utationof life is

inherent in the religion itself. That is whyreligiontakenas anobjective orreasonfor

this stratificat ionis not good at a ll becauseth is stratificationbefore long was m ade by

Manu.

That stratificat ion was ex isting even

before Manu. From that tim e onwards . be

causeofth is strat ificat ionbeing im plem ented

inourcase. we have becom e so untouch

able and so poorthat we approach everybody fora lm s - because increat ionthere is anunsatiable hunger which is respons ib le forth is. Iam hungry ; Ibeg you. this m anandeverybody who com es my way. You find

beggars in the'

church . tem ple and the

m osque. IM IIyoudiscrim inate aga inst m e

because of the particularrelig ionto wh ich Ido not belong ; will younot give m e alm s?

That is what Iam ask ing . Underthe secularC onstitution. relig ion has been taken into

cons ideration. lInterruptions )

Unfortunately. thecourts also haveg ivena different verdict. as ifproselyt isationis the

property of one com m unity . Iam g iving an

exam ple viz . the case of Devarajan vs

Am ba lkar.

MR. C HAIRMAN:Nowyouhave to step.

SHRIS . BENJAMIN:Madam , th is is the

first tim e that Iam speaking . Ihad not ao

cepted offers m ade to m e by m y party to

participate earlier. As such . Ishould be g iven

more tim e . (Interruptions)

Iam now com ing to the pragm atic part,

andnot to theory . lam g iving the facts ;ba sed

onthem . Isay that these is anone s ided

approach . Eventhe C onstitutiona lprovis ion

was not accepted. It was negatived by the

courts also . Iam a Harijan. and m y fatherisalso a Harijan. Iam a HarijanC hristian. My

father is entitled to benefits . whereas Iam

debarred. What difference is there betweenm y father and m yself? Do Inot share thesam e blood. Have Inot beeneduca ted . with

the sweat of this agricultural labourerthat iswho has givenm e th is education? Is it a sin

that Iam bornas a Harijanora ScheduledC aste?


(Am end. ) B ill

PROF . P.J . KURIEN: Iagree with you.

But there is a problem foras . There are two

orthree speakers from ours idewho want to

speak .

MR. C HAIRMAN: Youhave to take my

perm iss ion. Th is is a proposalm ade by theGovernm ent . Iwould like to know yourreactionand thenwe shall conclude it accord

ingly.

SHRISARYNARAYANJATIYA (Ujja in) :Its continuity should not be disturbed .

PROF . P.J . KURIEN: Our problem is

th is . Otherwise . we do not have any ot her

d ifficulty . Iagree with the hon. Minister. But

we have three m ore speakers who eviltake

only two orthree m inutes each . Eithertheym ay be a llowed today or they should be

a llowed before the Minister replies tom orrow. Onthis condition we canagree with

hon. Minister.

hrs .

MR. C HAIRMAN:TheGovernm ent hasnot proposed that the discuss ionshould be

finished .

Transla tion]

SHRISATYA PAL MALIK: D iscuss ionshould be finished .

(Interruptions)

[English]

MR. C HAIRMAN: Hon. m em bers .

pleaseunderstandwhat theproposal is . The

proposal is not to close the discuss ionalto

gether. There are m any speakers . Evenif . a ll

cannot be a llowed. definitely . som e canbe

a llowed .

Transla tion]


WELFARE (SHRIRAM VILAS PASWAN) :Madam C ha irm an. before you give your


by Rajya Sabha

MR. C HAIRMAN: The tim e all

finished . Itcanbe extended . But theC

m ent has made anappea l that they'

include the next Bill at this stage. TI'

deals with more orless the sam e eu

(Interruptions)

MR. C HAIRMAN: Would youfinish or not? If you interfere like

cannot complete . Please listen. This

Governm ent’s proposal. My underslis that the hon. m em bers belongingtr

part ies .whose m em bers havenot spa llwillbe allowed tom orrow . Ihope l

House will agree with th is proposal.

PROF . P.J . KURIEN:Onoursidare only two more speakers . Not necr

today. but tom orrowbefore the hon. I

replies . they m ay be a llowed to spot

decis ion. wewould like to urge'uponyr

though we wanted th is B ill to be rtoday itself afterconclud ing the disconthis issue today . but s ince them em

theOppos itionPart ies and others expthe Opinionthat as voting onth is Billl

heldtom orrow. discuss iononth is Billr

finished by PM . today and after'

m ay takeupotheritem . wh ich is inre

theScheduled C astes and Schedulec

C om m iss ion and discuss ion on this

a lso should be finished today itself

voting onboth the B ills m ay be heldrow at the sam e t im e . Yesterday . tha t

d iscuss iononthis issue was fixed up

PM . We do not have any objectato lack of tim e an agreem ent was r

underwh ich it was to be finished t

PM . but now it is 4O’

clock . Therefo

gest ionhas beenm ade by the Minisby the Governm ent that discuss ionsubject m ay be stopped now and VI

take up thenext item of theAgenda .

row. afterthat replywillbe g iven. an

of the m em bers wants to seek claril

chart m ay g ive h im one ortwo m inuf

discuss ion on th is issue m ay be fr

today . Vot ing onit m ay be held tomr

l09 C onst. (S . C . ) Orders JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) C ons t. (68th Am end. ) Bill 1 10

(Am end . B ill As Passed by Rajya Sabha

SHRI SATY A PAL MALIK: That isagreed.

MR. C HAIRMAN:With this understandng. Ibelieve . everybody agrees . l have

already spokenthat the m em bers of thoseJanies who have not spokenwill have an

opportunity to speak , very briefly .

SHRI PIYARE LAL HANDOO

(Anantnag ) : Iwant to m ake brief sub- m is

sions . If any speech is allowed today . that

willbe of the m em bers of those part ies whohavenot yet spoken. not of thosewho have

already spoken.

MR. C HAIRMAN:Youhavenot listened

tome. This is the proposal of the Government.

SHRISATYNARAYANJATIYA (Uua in) :Mynam e is there .

MR. C HAIRMAN: There are m anynames . not only yours .

SHRISATYNARAYANJATIYA:Whenevermychance to Speak comes . the debateends there . Please a llow m e to speak .

SHRI RAM NAIK (Bom bay Nort h) :Madam . it is a co incidence that it is alwayshappening inhis case. So , Irequest that heshould be g iven more tim e to speak as

others are (Interruptions)

MR. C HAIRMAN Ihave g ivenm y ruling. It is the prerogative of the C ha ir. The

C hairtries to accom m odate allParties andas faras poss ible the Mem bers . Therefore.

Ihave heard a ll of you. Tom orrow when itcomes

.whoeverinthe C ha irwilltry to satisfyas many Mem bers as poss ible .

Now . if theHouse agrees . thenwe shallfikeup the next B ill.SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS : Yes .

MR. C HAIRMAN: With the unanim ous°ns ent of the House . Inow ca lluponShriam Vilas Paswah to m ove that the B ill

furtherto am end the C onstitutionof Ind ia be

takeninto cons ideration.

hrs .

consrrrurrorv (SIXTY - EIGHTHAMENDMENT) BILL

Transla tion]


WELFARE (SHRIRAM VILAS PASWAN) : Ibeg to m ove:

“That Billfurtherto am end the C onst i

tut ionof India be takeninto cons idera

tion”

.

[SHRINIRMAL KANTIC HATTERJEE inthe C ha ir]

hrs .

Mr. C ha irm an. S ir. m any Hon'ble

Mem bers have expressed their views on

C onstitution (Scheduled C astes ) Order

(Am endm ent) Bill. 1990. Som eoftheHon’

ble

Mem bers willget anopportunity to speak onit tomorrow also . Th is C onstitutionAm end

m ent B ill is a lso a very im portant Bill. (Interruptions)

All the Hon’

ble Mem bers of th is Houseare aware that there has been a long stand

ing dem and to provide constitutionalstatus .

constitutionalpowers and statutory powersto the Scheduled C astes - Scheduled Tribes

C om m iss ionand this C onst itut ionAm end

m ent Billwas presented inthisHouseduringthe year1978 a lso . but unfortunately itcouldnot be passed at that tim e. Lateron. in1979

th is Billwas presented aga inanddiscuss ion

onit was to be held on but aga init

could not be passed due to the downfa ll of

the Governm ent . Today after11 years , this

C onstitution Am endm ent Bill has beenbrought inthe House and lwould like to sayonly th is th ing to the Hon

'ble Mem bers that

the present Governm ent is determ ined andIwould like to say itclearly that if theHon

'ble

C ons t. MAY 28 .1990

[Sh . Ram Vilas Paswah ]

Mem bers and leaders of all the parties give

theircooperationonthese issues. Icansay

it with certa inity that whateversuggestions

theyg ive inregardto theupliftm entofSched

uled C astes andTribes . weakersections ofthe society . will be im plem ented. Because.

onsuch po licy m atters . especially . onthem atter of weaker sections . it has a lreadybeendelayed very m uch . The period of 43

years is not a short tim e and it s not properif

aftersuch a long tim e them aple feeldisap

po inted oh th is account. Ithink that it is

dangerous not only forthe Governm ent butforthe entire country if the people of Scheduled C astes . Scheduled Tribes . m inorities .

downtroddendeprived of theirrights and if

their is feeling of disappo intment am ong

them . Therefore. whendiscuss ionon th is

issue was held in the m orning . and Prof .

Ranga tried to link itwith theotherissue. that

Ifelt all that tim e there has not beenany

change inthe traditionof the C ongress PartyPart icularly inregard to the people of these

com munities But Ifeel

PROF . P.J . KURIEN:We have m ade itabsolutely

MR. C HAIRMAN: Please s it down. You

willhave yoursay .

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SHRIRAM VILAS PASWAN: Iam giving m y thanks

- for this only . Mr. C ha irm an.

S ir. Iwas giving thanks forthis . Inthe m orn

ing. when an effort was m ade to link th is

issuewith the otherissues Iwas little appro

hensive. But the Governm ent is happy thatall the Mem bers of ruling and oppos ition

parties areunanim ous onthe issueofSched

ule C astes and Tribes andweakersect ionsof the society . Therefore. Ihave stated that

if a llof youhave beencooperating with theGovernm ent though lcons iderthis th ing thatthe Governm ent do not have 213 m inority.theGovernm entwillfulfiltheprom ises m adeto the people by pass ing these Bills inthe

(68th Am end. ) Bill 1 12

House. There are two points . m any of ourfriends are saying thepo ints aboutwh ich lawhas not beenenacted . There is a need to

enact the law. Secondly the law. that has

beenenacted. isnotbeing im plem ented. 80.

it should be im plem ented . Th irdly . there isa

need to bring about a com prehens ivechange

inthe view point of oursociety . about whichourfriends have stated that problem willnot

be solved only by enacting a law. ratherour

socia loutlook should be changed. The issue

of Scheduled C astes . ScheduledTribesand

theweakersections of society is not just anissue concerning theirwelfare.

“

but it is a

problem forthe nation. it is a st igm a onour

society .We should see such problem s inthis

prospective only we had prom ised inour

electionm anifesto that if ourparty comes to

power. constitut iona l status and statutory

powerswillbeg ivento theScheduled C astes

and Scheduled Tribes C om m iss ion. Whenthe issue to extend the reservation for 10

years was ra ised in the House forthe firsttim e, Ihad stated at that tim e also that the

Governm ent if firm ly resolve to im plem ent itIcan say th is th ing that whether present

Governm ent have a five year's tim e oroneyeartim e. as a MinisterofWelfare . M inister

of Labourand as a part of theGovernm entofIndia . Iwould like that we m ay fulfil the

prom ises m ade to the the people with ina

year. Icancount them one byone . We have

subm itted that reservationm aybe extendedfor 10 years . it has been increased by thecooperationof allofyou. We seek the advice

of Ministry of Law to enact Prevention of

Atrocities Act for Scheduled C a stes and

Scheduled Tribes . They have advised us

that the C entral Governm ent is not underany obligationto consult the State Govemm ents . the C entra l Governm ent can issueNotification. The C entra lGovernm ent houseissued Notification. On 3oth January thatconstitutional status m ay be givento the

Scheduled C astes and Scheduled Tribes

C om m iss ion. TheGovernm ent have broughtth is inthe Parliam ent and itwould bepassed

it allof youC ooperatewith theGovernm ent .Many of ourfriends are saying that reservationquota has not beenfulfilled during the

period of 43 years because none of the

officer is afra id of any act ion. Eligib ility

C onst.

[Sh . Ram Vilas Paswah ]

reasonable rates .

S im ilarly tens and thousands of peoplearework ing inthe cottage Industry. But theyare working there as labourers and not as

ownersGovernm ent’s intentins areveryclearinthis regard . We had m ade som e C om m itments to the people . If we had the least

intentionto consum e tim e. we would have

takens ix m onths to fulfil one com m itm ent

and inth is way could have takenanother6

m onths forfulf illing the next item . Instead of

do ing that we are m ak ing all ourefforts to

fulfill the com m itm ents at the earliest pos

s ible . For th is purpose we have broughtforward three Bills at a tim e . The Bills relate

to ganting of certa infacilit ies to Neo - Bud

dh ists andthe Scheduled C astes andSchad

uled Tribes and Land Reform s . Bes ides .

these Bills relate to welfare of Scheduled

C astes and Scheduled Tribes and those

sect ions of the society who have beensubjugated for thousand of years . who have

beenbound by letterand whose vo ice hasbeensupressed . It is the labourclass whichhas beendenied the dignity of labour andhave been m ade downtroddens with the

result the growth of the country got ham

pered. We have . therefore, m ade a resolve

that we willgive them the dignity of labour.We stick to the sloganthatpeoplecapable toearnwill earn and people who indulge in

explorationwilltota lly bewipped and a newera willcom e. That is why th is constitutional

Am endm ent Bill has beenbrought forwardwh ich should grant statutory status to the

com m iss ionofScheduled C astes andSched

uled Tribes .

Ihad m entioned th is very po int in theHouse inlastDecem bera lso . Nowtwo things

areunderccns ideration. one is the C om m is

s ionof Scheduled C astes and Scheduled

Tribes and the other is the office of the

C om m iss ion of Scheduled C astes and

ScheduledTribes . Butnothing substant ia l isbeing done. Though report s are being pre

pared honestly . the report is not- be ing sub

m itted to Parliam ent on tim e. Even if the

report is subm itted in the Parliam ent. no

MAY 28 .1990 (68th Am end. ) err

discuss ionis being held onthe report.

if a discuss ion is held . the C omm issio

nopowers to implem ent thediscussion

exam ple a thiefbefore proceedingtoola chest. takes som e chappatis with h

case he encounters a dog which m igl

at him . to divert his attentionhe drips

pieces of the chappat is before it . Th isthe th ief incom m iting the theft cash . s

is the case with spend ing huge sums

nam e of Scheduled C astes and Sche

Tribes . A sum ofRs . 1000crores was

inthe Fifth Five YearPlanfollowed l5000 crores in S ixth Five YearPlar

crores in Seventh F ive YearEvenafterspending Rs . crore

ing these Planperiods . we have not

able to list 16 lakh Adivas is above th

erty line. j As such . we have decide

benefits of m oney be ing spent . Ondem ent work forAdivas is should reael

direct . Iwould like to lite one m ore ex;

Inthenationalh ighway pro ject . thougare am ple avenues of em ploym ent. lAdivas is cannot ava ilany such oppo

S im ilarly . electricity is be ing suppAdivas is . but they do not get it . It is

diverted to otherplaces and theAdiva

being shownas beneficiaries paper

There is no dearth of leaders ar

cies inthis country . But wha t is Iacki

the intention. As long as intentions :

clear. noth ing canbe done . Nw Iwo

to request the speakers to com e I

count the achievem ents of the Goveand thereafter m ake the ir suggestir

willwelcom e them . With th is th ing invcm ewith the Billform ak ing the C omr

forScheduled C astes and Scheduled

more powerful. We have proposedthe C abinet Minister

's status to its

m an. Earlier it was only of the rar

Secretary . Sim ilarly we have prope

g ive the status of a Ministerof Stat

Deputy C ha irm an. The C om m iss ion

only enquire into the com pla ints . b

exam ine their. It cansum m onthe pa

will also send its representatives to

pate in the m eetings held by the PlC om m iss ions of various status a

C entralPlanning C om m iss ionwhile 1

C onst.

'

vrg plans for their respect ive spheres . Wehave a lready sa id that before tak ing up anymajorplanning orproject inthe interest of theAdivas is . the proposa l of the projects to betakenupwillbe d iscussed with the Adivas is

and they willbe duly consulted before tackinga fina ldecis ioninthe m atter. It shouldnot

be so that m ajorprojects willbe takenup invenous Areas like Dhanbad . Hazaribaghetc. and the Adivas is willbe displaced from

there inorderto provide land forthe projects .

Netherthey are being pard any com pensationnor any em ploym ent . The people wholand whose acquired becam e hom eless .

Such m a jorproject have becom e a course

forthem . The C om m iss ionhas beengiven

fullauthority to go into cases viz . C ases of

atrocities . socio - econom ic m atters . m atters

relating to reservationorothersuch discrim i

nations . Som e rights wh ich have been leftandhave beenlisted and thePres ident. from

time to tim e

SHRIC .K . JAFFER SHARIEF (BangaloreNorth ) :We are happy to note thevariousright . Be inggranted to them . Iwant to old that

they should be g iventhe right to write confi~

dent ia l reports so that they canwork better.

SHRIRAM VILAS PASWAN: All right

you have sa id a right th ing and Isa id the

sam e th ing before youcam e At the sam e

tim e we are m ak ing provis ions for tak ing

punitive m easures aga inst those off icia ls

who vio late these instructions . Apart th is a

C o m m ittee has also beenconstituted underthe C ha irm anship of the Prim e Minister. A

co m m ittee has also been form ed at the

Secretarys’

level. Th is C om m itteewillm oni

torprogress afterevery three m onths . Wewant to see that not a s ingle seat is left

dereserved on14 April. 1991 . the day of Dr.

Am bedkar's b irth centrnory. Not a s ingle

back log should be there . We are proceeding

w ith th is objective in view. The previous

Governm ent had cla im ed that theywould fillup the backlog within3 m onths . If the back

log could havebeenfilledupwithin3m onths ,

why thatwork couldnot be com pletedduring

la s t43years?We haveno apprehens ions toyour intentions . When we learnt that th iswo rk canbedonewith in3m onths . ourm ora l

JYAISTHA 7.1 (68th Am end. ) B ill 1 18

Due to som e reasons the previous

Governm ent had takendecis ionthat therewas no need of it . ButwhenItook charge as

a M inister. Ireceived m any representationsfrom various states stating that thecondition

of such and such castes was worst thanthat

of the scheduled castes in their area and

they had d iscrim inated on the ground of

caste . It was stated that a lthough these

caste belonged to Scheduled Tribes but dueto som e reasons they have not been ihcluded inthe scheduled list . There is a gen

era lcom pla intof thepeople that som e castes

are included inscheduled caste ina part icu

lardistrict but not inotherdistricts . S im ilarly .

tribes in a part iculardistrict have been in

cluded inthe list of ScheduledTribes butnotin other d istricts . The State Governm enthave recom m ended to include them inthe

lists of and the sam e has beenapproved by the RegistrarGenera lof India .

We are preparing the list and before fina lising it.we have asked the C h iefMinisterof the

States to reexam ine the m atterand furnish

the lists of the castes which have beenleftout inorderto facilitate us intaking decis ion

inthe m atter. Bes ides this . if hon. Mem bershave any additiona l inform ationwith them in

912 (SAKA)

get a boost and we set a target of 1 yeartoaccom plish the task . Overt ly reviews willbem ade one afterthe anotherforclass I. class

IIand class IIIposts and the num ber ofem ployees in each category vis - a - vis the

num berof Scheduled C astes and Sched

uled Tribes am ong them willbe worked out .

If the back log of posts ineach category willbe worked out and actionwillbe takento fill

up all the reserved vacancies ineach cate

90W

There are a num berofothercastes alsowhich have not been included in the list ofScheduled C astes and Scheduled Tribes .

As you are aware . earlier the laws were

be ing enaclied by a not ification from the

Pres ident specify ing that such and such

castes in a part icular States belongs to

Scheduled C astes and Scheduled Tribes .

Fora subsequent am endm ents orform aking any addition or deletion in the Parlia

m ent .

C onst.

[Sh . Ram Vilas Paswan]

respect of castes wh ich deserve to be in

cluded inthe list of Scheduled C astes and

Scheduled tribes . the irnam es should also

be sent . We will definitely look‘

into it as I

prom ised earlier.

SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI

(Jhans i) : Do youpropose to com plete th is

task with inone year?

SHRIRAM VILAS PASWAN: We pro

pose to com plete th is work by the end of

Decem berth is yearbut it canbe done onlyafterreceiving yoursuggestions int im e .

SHRIRAJ ENDRA AGNIHOTRI All

officia l m ach inery is inyour hands . Iwant

that it should be com pleted under a tim e

bound program m e. (Interruptions)

SHRIHARBHAJAN LAKHA (Ph illaur) :There is a generalcom pla int that theircon

fident ial reports are writtenby the officers

belong ing to caste Hindi such as Brahm inswho are neverfa irto them ing iving reports .

It is . therefore . suggested that a provis ion

should be m ade inth is Billto the effect that

off icers belong ing to none-otherthanthat of

should write the confidential re

ports cl the em ployees belonging to Scheduled C astes and Scheduled Tribes .

SHRIRAM VILAS PASWAN:We have

a lready taken decis ion in this regard that

appropriate representat ionwould be given

to the people of the weakersections of the

society and scheduled ca stes and sched

uled tribes at the places where policy m atters are dea lt with and appo intm ents and

prom ot ions are m ade. We have a lreadytakenth is decis ion. Eventhen. it is not the

end of our goal. Now Ibeg to m ove the

m ot ionforcons iderations of the Bill. D iscuss ion has to be taken on it a lso . If hon.

Mem bers cont inue to ra ise the ir individua l

queries thenthere will be no end of it. Hon.

Mem bers of a ll part ies will speak on it andexpress their views . Iwill reply the po intsra ised by them .

MAY 28 . 1990 (68 th Am end. ) Bill 120

There is a reply to the debate.

[Transla tion]

SHRIRAM VILAS PASWAN: Norrlbeg to m ove the m ot ionforcons iderationol

the Bill inthe House .

SHRIC HHAVIRAM ARGAL (Morena):Mr. C ha irm an. S ir. the s ituat inhas assumed

such a pass that the people of Scheduled

C astes Scheduled Tribes are not getting

reservation inthe Ra jya Sabha . LegislativeC ouncils and in leg islat ive Assemblies in

proport ionto their populat ion. Resonator

quota forScheduled C astes and Scheduled

Tribes is not being filled up evenintheLok

Sabha Secretariat . the Pres ident Secretar

iat . the Vice - Pres ident Secretariat and the

Prim e Ministeroff ice . Whenthis is the stu

ation inthe offices located inthe capitalcity

of Delh i. howcanyouensure reservationsirr

otheroffices located at otherplaces inthe

country?

SHRIRAMVILAS PASWAM:Mr. C hai

m an. S ir. s im ilarviews . as expressedbythe

hon. Mem ber. havebeenexpressedbysomo

hon. Mem bers belonging to the C ongress

Party and hon. Shri Hukum deo Narayan

Yadav. There are no two opinions aboul l

that the Parliam ent is the suprem e bodyand

theGovernm ent has no objectioninbrima Billonthe .ine as suggested by thehon.

Mem bers provided all the politica l parties

approve the proposa l unanim ously . So far

we have m oved forward tak ing a ll thepoll?

ca lpart ies inconfidence . Ourpos itionisjust

like that of a cricket playerwho has tomake

runas well as save the wickets also . Sowe

have no object ion. The hon. Mem bers are

requested to take up the m atterwith their

respective part ies and obta intheirconcur

rence . If a ll the politica l part ies . be it the

C ongress Party or the leftist pa rties orfor

that m atterany otherpo lit ica lparties .agree

to the proposa l. the Governm ent has no

object ionto bring a billprovid ing reservation

forthe people belong ing to inthe

Rajya Sabha and the VidhanParishads .We

C onst. MAY 28 . 1990

PROF . N.G . RANGA: So faras the Billsare concerned , we are genera lly infavourofthem . That was the reasonwe were pre

pared to cooperate with them . But. it is a

m atterof extens ionof the Sess ionbeyondthe stated period . Therefore. we st ipulated

th is particular condition. This condition is

noth ing new. Earlierwe have beenm ak ingthese dem ands .Wewanted allthosepapersto be placed ontheTable of the House . The

sa id:‘

no’

. Then. they sa id som e papers were

m iss ing Alright. m ake up those papers

whatever they are . But . please for“God’

s

sake, place the who le lot of them on the

Tableof theHouse . It is stillposs ible forthemto do so . Otherwise. youwould m ake it very

difficult forus and youyoum ake it im pos

s ible a lso forus . we do not know. But . we

have giventhem a priorwarning . That is the

idea . Therefore. ldo notwant m y hon. friend

orthe House to be underthe im press ionor

to away with the im press ion that we are

opposed to the extens ion of the various

privileges wh ich the Governm ent wishes toextend to the Scheduled C astes . Scheduled

Tribes . Backward C lasses and so on.

So faras th is Billis concerned.we are a ll

infavourof it . It is a pity that he has been

go ing onsaying that so much t im e has beenlost . Who have beenelected as m em bers ofthe backward classes . m em bers of the

Scheduled C astes and Scheduled TribesC om m iss iontill now? Most of those m em

bers belong to and ha il from the backward

classes .Harijans andtheScheduled C astes .

Otherpeople were being kept away ortheyhad them selves absta ined from go ing into it.But inspite of that. the C om m iss iondid not

have sufficient powers . That is the reason

why a lthough they had beenconclud ing verym any useful studies inregard to all those

places and all those incidents where these

unfortunate people were being treated verybadly . atrociously . inspite of those reports

and surveys having beenm ade and reportshaving beensubm itted to the Governm ent .the socia lcondit ionof theunfortunatecrores

of ourpeople. tribalpeople as well as Harijans have not improved . The recom m enda

tions m ade by th is C omm iss ion have not

What is m ore unfortunate is . event

educa ted peoplewho ha ilfrom the tribe

well as from Harijancom m unity havr

been able to com pete with us .if n

surpass . at least to work instepwith r

work ing for the uplift of their ownpe

There have not beenm any Am bedkaJ agj ivanRam s .

(68th Am end. ) Bill

been im plem ented satisfactorily. alflrethe State Governm ents orby the Go

m entofIndia . That is the reasonwhymyfriends - so m any of us on th is side anm any on that s ide- have beenclamor

and m ak ing the dem and that this C on

s ion should be given statutory statusnecessary powers . Andw ith thecooper

of the State Governm ents . in most a

and ifneed be. incerta incases . theyv

be able to take necessary steps to rerthe grievances and a lso to m inim ist

sufferings of theseunfortunate crores t

bretherninourcountry .We havebeenin

these dem ands . But som ehow orother

HarijanMLAs . ourtriba lMLAs andcure

ent polit ica l parties- ih spite of their

poss ible intention- because of various

sons including the pressure of work ir

House. we have not beenable to taledecis ionorthe initiat ive . Now all ther

goes to my friend. Shri Paswan. Heus

be here on th is s ide. on the side 0

Oppos ition earlier. Iused to adm in

pass ionate advocacy forthe causeofI

people and Iam glad he has found the

im portant pos ition in th is Governmen

has com e forward with this B ill. We arefavour of th is Bill. We would like i t

passed . But that does not m eanthat it

too optim isticabout its capacity to rendl

needed services and to provide theno

protectionto theseunfortuna te people.

conditions canbe im proved provided

is a revolutionarychange . sa lutarychar

the m inds of ourm asses . We have to

on that constructive work . that Garrr

work . We are also Gandh ians ; they

cla im to be Gandhians . But we havr

beenable to work ina GandhianmewithGandh ianspiritandearnestness in:

to ra ise these people .

C onst.

5 very unfortunate . We hope fortheirrnce in larger num ber in tim es tond we hope those people who com e

po inted as Mem bers of th is C om m is1enthe statutory status com es to be

y Parliam ent through th is C onstitu

endm ent . they would a lso be able tothe foot steps of Dr. Am bedkar. ShrirrRam orso m any of ourownpublic

Harijan leaders and triba l leaders .

rsed to be Shri J a ipa lS inghwho used

ide leadersh ip forthe triba l people .

a in that hope and we hape other

rrs ha iling from other com munities

>uld be able to help ourcountry torth is blot onour society and onourWe condemnthat apartheid there in

tfrica . There has beenapartheidherewnvillages . These people have beennned forsuch a very long tim e andwe>toverit . Itwas Mahatm aGandh iwhothe conscience . who tried hrs best

'

e to rouse the conscience of our

here inourcountry . Not that there

0 earlierpeople . There were people

Am bedkar. Swam i Vivekananda .

as . Arya Sam aj ists and to m any otherrlleaders . But itwasMaha tm aGandh iade the sa lvag ing . the Upliftm ent. ofreople . a nat ionalproblem and. what

he m ade it a condrt ionprecedent for

hievem ent of our Swara j . Many of

:ongress sta lwarts inthosedays usedrnhappy about Ma hatm a Gandh i

’

s

rinregard to th is m atter. Inspite of it

in today , there are areas where not

.ese Harrjan and triba l people . but

rackward class people are be ing illand are being keptdown. We have toove all these th ings . It needs a social

onom ic revolutionand po litica l revo

rlso . Som ebody has beensay ing th is

g . Ifyoudo not hastento im prove the

ans of thesepeople . theywould them

com e and take up pos itions .

"

A tim e

com e when not one . two or three

ns orAm beclkars orJ agj'vanRam sbe occupy ing the C entre

'

s front

rs but those people th em selveswould

re front benches and drive the rest of

rto the other benches . Iwould wel

hat but prov ided rt rs done ina non

JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) (68th Am end. ) Bill 126

vrolent m anner. It canbe done inlaninstrtu

tiona lised m anner. non- vio lent m anner. onlythrough th is kind of a revo lut ionary yet evo

~

lutionary leg islatronand also atti tude . Mere

leg islat ion is not enough . According to our

C onstitution. they are welcom e to com e to

this House and to becom eMinisters . Inspite

of it all. theircondit ioncontinues to be just asunsat isfactory a s it has beenfora very longtim e . Therefore . the m ind of the people . the

approach of ourpeople . has to be changed

andcanbechanged andought to bechanged

by Parliam ent aswellas the public and theirleaders .

Iwelcom e th is B ill.

Transla tion]

SHRIC HHEDIPASWAM Sa saram ) :

Mr. C ha irm an S ir. with your perm iss ion. I

would like to put som e Interrup

[English]

MR. C HAIRMAN: Now the regular

debatewillcontinue . Shri Santosh Bhartiya .

SHRIKUSUMA KRISHNA MURTHY

(Am a lapuram ) : S ince m y name has been

ca lled . please a llow m e to speak .

MR. C HAIRMAN: lhave ca lled you. But

Isubstituted Prof. N.G . Ranga inyourplace .

Thank you.

SHRIKUSUMA KRISHNA MURTHY :He has m ade som e observat ions . Iam the

initiatorof the debate . Youm ust a llow m e to

speak .

MR. C HAIRMAN:Does henotbelong toyour Party? Pleas s it down. You have to

understand th is . Please understand this .

Transla tion]

SHRI SANTOSH BHARTIYA lFar

rukhabad ) : Mr. C ha irm an. S ir. S hri Ranga is

the senior- mostMem berof th isHouse and inth is sense. he is the

‘

Bh ishm a Pitam ah'

of

C onst.

[Sh . Santosh Bhartiya]

th is House . Today . the way he took the

cudget insupport of the po licy of the previ

ous C ongress Governm ent in respect of

Iam rem inded of the agony andinner conflict with wh ich Bhishm a of the

Mahabharta m ight have suffered . ShriRanga

is a living exam ple of honesty and self- less

service . Forthe last few years . he has beeninthe ruling party buy forthe m ost part of h islife . he had beeninoppos ition. Evenafter43

years of independence . the s ituat ionhas not

im proved inthe villages where the people

belong ing to Scheduled C astes still cannot

s it on a cot before a personbelong ing toC aste Hindu. They are not allowed to draw

waterfrom the com m onwells and separate

tea -

pots arekept forthem atvillage tea- sta lls

and they are asked to wash the tea -

pots

them selves despite m ak ing paym ent forthetea served to them . Inthrs society . whichwehave rnherited from the old generation like

Shri Ranga . atrocit ies are stillbe ing com m it

ted onthe wom enfo lk cf the people belonging to Scheduled C astes . Everybody casesofatrocities on the weaker sections are

reported inthenewspapers .Whenthepeoplebe longrng to go to lodge FIR to

Po lice Station. reports are not lodged . On

th e contrary . they a re lodged in the police

local up and sent to jarls . There ha s beenture of sendrng the people belong ing toth r = l s ectronto ja ils without any rhym e or

re r‘scnso that the irservices

‘

couldbeutilised

Io 'cleaning the ja ilprem ises . Forthe iast 42

years . th is has beencontinuing inoursocietyand strll we do not have m uch hope of

im provem ent . Ith ink there is no need to take

m ore exam ples to show how the people

belong ing to upper castes have explo ited

the weakersect ions forthe irown interests .

Bes ides th is . the funds released from

the C entre during the last 41 years fortheScheduled C astes and weakersections have

not reached to them . Iwould like to know

where the funds havegone . Who have beenbenelrted from the schem es launched for

them . How m any of them have got scho lar

shrps . Who got b enefrtofthe facilities granted

to them and em ploy m ent provrded under

MAY 28 .1990

S ir. the harrjans were disposed or

for whrch‘

Puttas'were granted to I

Whenthey tried to res ist , theywere nobeatenbut m ass killings were m ade .

villages were burnt downand police hthe r. rm ina ls . ldo agree that th is explo i

'

has be engo ing onforcenturies . but thr

aga inst th is social injust ice. wh ich s

have beenstarted afterthe independwas not started . Instead of repent ing fr

atrocities com m itted by them . the p

who were instrum ental inperpetrating

crim es on them are now say ing that

don’

t have any hope from th is Bill. The r

superiority and feeling of h igh anr

nurtured by them over the centuries

them to uttersuch words . lwould lrke

you that the bonded labourers ger

(68th Am end. ) B ill

those schem es ? Wrrlanyone e lse ever'

accountable forrt? Who W illbearthe re'

s ibility for th is . But one day we w ill he

reply these questions . WhenIhearwo

pra ise from a seniorMem berof the Hlike Shri Ranga . Ifeel distressed . I

think ing whetherIam srtting inthe’

K

Sabha’

. Iam distressed because such Ihave beenuttered by a personwht

been a freedom fighter. May be Is

bitter. but Iam just try ing to convey it thr

youthat the backward and the weekstions donot evenenjoy facilit ies likedri

water. roads and hospita ls wh ich ar

basic requirem ents . As m any as 99

them do not have houses to live in. III

respons ible for th is s ituation? Eventr

the evilpracticeof carry ing night so ilon

has been contrnuing in our country .

previous Governm ent did noth ing tonate this evilpract ice . Who is respons il

th is system ? Inm any parts of the corthe people belong ing to weakersectionot allowed even to take out barat pn

s ions . Not only th is . there have beenrin wh ich the brides were prevented

consum m ating theirm arriages and enjhoneym oonwrth the irhusbands . lwoul

to ask who is respons ible fora ll th is pahas afflicted to our society like lopert

body . Had they ever supported a s

m ovem ent launchedduring the last40

to fight aga inst these socia levils ?

C onst.

[Sh . Resham La l Jangde]

belong to the Scheduled C astes and Sched

uledTribes . They dwellinJ hugg is alongs idethe city

'

s sprawling and glittering roads and

one canfind thousands of them work ing as

bonded labourers . The LabourMinistry is

play ing hide and seek with them . Untoldstories of theirsufferings and m isery are

hushedupandwe are kept inthedark about

them . Thousands ofpeople belonging to theScheduled C astes and Scheduled Tribescom ing from the C hattisgarh reg ions are

leading hellish lives as bonded labourers inUttarPradesh and Delhi .

Iwant to say thatwe ta lk a lot about theupliftm ent of Scheduled C astes and Sebed

uled Tribes , but when it com es to pract ice .

eventhe presentationof the reports of the

Scheduled C astes and Scheduled TribesC om m iss ionis delayed by three - fouryears .

Inthe last forty years . notevena s ingle State

Assem bly took up th is report fordiscuss ion.

Leave a lone the StateAssem blies . eventh is

augustHouse has nevertakenupfordiscus

s ionthe report of the Scheduled C astes and

ScheduledTribes C om m iss ions ince 1950. l

have to say th is with utm ost distress . From

1952 to 1962 . lwas a C ongress Party M P.

of this veryHouse. Evenduring those days .

th is report was never taker. up fordiscus

s ion. Though repeated assurances areg iven

by the UnionHom e Ministry about check ingthe oppress ion. harassm ent and atrocities

unleashed on the Scheduled C astes the

Scheduled Tribes . whenit com es to sharing

the blam e . it passes onthe buck to the StateGovernm ents . The StateGovernm ents treatus contem ptuously. As a result. incidents of

atrocities and harassm ent and increas ing

day by day. Ido not want to dig old graves .

but Iwould like to bring to yournotice certa inth ings . More than ha lf the expenditure in

curred on Tribal Sub -

plans and Harijancomponent planis m et by the C entralGovernm ent. but no attention has been pa id

regarding theproperutilisat ionofthese funds

by the StateGovernm ents forthe im plem en~

tation of these plans . Has the Scheduled

C astes C om m iss ionereveng ivena report

with reference to the utilisationof the funds

MAY 28 . 1990

To g ive an exam ple . no steps have

beentakeninanydistrict across thecountryto im plem ent

‘

J a ldhara Schem e’

. Though

crores of m pees kept for this . have been

diverted. no one ha s pa id any attentionlo t

so far. S im ilarly . even today , hundreds of

Harijanvillages across the country do nol

have waterenough to tend th is fields. Har

ijan villages do not have m otorable roads

and the money allocated fo rth is purposebythe C entralGovernm ent do not reach them.

Inth is regard. Iwould like to ask youto take

effective steps inth is d irection. Mere pres'

entationofScheduled C aste C om m issioner's

report would not do . The upliftm ent of the

Scheduled C astes and Scheduled Tribes

are poss ible . only of you f ind ways and

m eans to solve the ir m anifo ld problems . I

would like to say here that povertycannotbe

a lleviated by reservations a lone .

(68th Am end . ) Bill 132

allocated forHarijancom ponent plan? After

all. as the hon. Shri Ram Vilas Paswah has

sa id .what are tha reasons forthediversions.

delay and lapse of croras of rupees kept

apart forHarijanC om ponent Plan. inalmost

every state? Shri Paswa h is a personifica

tionof the values and principles that Baba

saheb stood forand Is incerely hOpe that hisservices would take h im to new heightsand

he would excelDr. Am bedkar. The needof

the hour is that the C entra l Governmentshould be m ade accountable forthe imple

m entationof Harijan C om ponent Planand

TribalSub-

plans . The State Governments,whetherthey are headed by the JanataDal

orthe C ongress Party are m ost unreliable.

whenit com es to the im plem entationcf 'ne

WelfareSchem es fortheScheduledC : 25.

For the past forty years . we have at

observing that the C entra l Governme" s

not at a llaccountable forthe im plerw t in

of the Harijans C om ponent PlanandTribal

Sub - Plans . even when it involves central

funds . Henceforth . the C entralGovernment

should be m ade accountable for it andthe

Mem bersof Parliam ent should be allovredlo

ra ise questions inthe Parliam ent regardingthe implem entation of the Harijancompo

nent planand Triba lSub-

plans . irrespective

of the irbeing C entra lorS ta te subjects.

JYAISTHA 7. I

Migration to cities are st ill continuing .

Mia steps do youpropose to take to check

the monopoly of trade and industry by a

handfulof m ult im illiona ires bus iness houses .

which is prov ing to be a bottleneck in the

developm ent of the Scheduled C astes and

the ScheduledTribes? Poverty alleviat ionisinposs ib le unless and until job reservat ionsare m ade in the industrial sector. whether

they be private orpublic sector. Such provisions should be m ade so as to help them

escape from theclutches ofpoverty . It is sa id

that the b iggerfishes eat the sm allerfishes .

Sim ilarly . thewell-off am ong the Scheduled

C astes and also am ong the general cate

gory explo it theirbrethernfortheirpersonaladvancem ent. Well-off people am ong the

Scheduled C aste and Scheduled Tribes

C om m unit ies like the Kevels andDheem ars .

who ho ld h igh pos itions intheGovernm ent.com er a ll the benefits kept aside forbackward classes . There are m any such Sched

uled C astes and Scheduled Tribes whose

conditions havenot changed evenatterforty

years of independence. Even today . theyare treated like slaves and no one seem s to

be concerned about them . Iwould like the

Scheduled C astes and Scheduled TribesC om m iss ionto look afterthewelfareof such

Scheduled C astes and the backwardclassesas it would enableus to wa lk togetheronthe

path of socia lism . otherwise theupliftm ent of

the Scheduled C astes would rem a ina dis

tant dream .

Regarding suppress ionand atrocities, I

would like to state that theScheduled C astes

C om m iss ionershould be g iventhe authorityto investigate under the C om m iss ion of

Enquiry Act . The C om m iss ionershould be

giventhe authority to collect evidence. con

duct enquiry and present its report to the

adm inistrationand theHom eM inistry shouldtake thenecessary initiative and act as a ccordinator. Iam not bothered about the crea

tronof a separate Ministry forthis purpose.

but s trong and effective m easures should be

takento check the atrocities perpetrated on

theScheduled C astes andScheduledTribes .

and a lso im prove theirstandard of living . It

would serve no purpose if a separate Minis

try is created and if Hom e M inistry does not

Iwould like to m entionone more th inghere . There are m any drawbacks in theexisting reservationpolicy

- C andidates be

longing to theScheduled C astes andSched

uled Tribes get their interview cards four

days after the interview. There are m anyotherloopholes too . The confidentialreport

912 (SAKA) (68th Am end. ) Bill 134

coo rdinate with it . It would prove beneficia l

only if there is effective cc-ordination be

M eanthe two m inistries . Afterthis . Iwould

like to say that the C entral Governm ent

should m ake special provis ions forthe de

velopm ent of districts like Bastar. Koraput .

Mandla . Sarguja . Pa lm au. Ka lahandi . etc. .

wh ich have rem a ined backward forcentu

ries . Although . they are not centrally adm inistered territories the Union Governm entshould pay specia l attention towards it as

otherwise. these areas would rem a inback

word by centuries . wh ile the rest of the

countrym akes progress . Wh ilewewould beenjoying the fruitsofdevelopm ent. them p h

inthese areaswould be leading a hellish life.

Irrespective of the pace of developm ent .

those who toil would continue to to il. con

tinue to be oppressed and would rem a in

backward.wh ilethosewho havem adeprogress would m ake furtherprogress .

Inthis regard . Iwould like to say one

more th ing . that is . the presentationof the

report of this C om m iss ionevery year intheParliam ent and the StateAssem blies shouldbe m ade obligatory. The State Governm entshould furnish the necessary inform ationandreports soughtby the C om m iss ion.with in

a tim e bound program m e . Today . the s ituation is such that the State Governm ent donot furnish the necessary inform ationuptothreeorfouryears . It should be m adeconsti

tut iona lly obligatory onthe part of the StateGovernm ents to furnish the inform ation

sought by the C om m iss ion. At the mom ent.

there is no such provis ion. Secondly . the

report of the C om m iss ion should be pre

sented every yearand it should be takenupfordiscuss ion. The 1990- 91 report should

be takenup fordiscuss ionin1991- 92 itself .

It would serve no purpose if like stale food .

the report is presented and takenup for

discuss ionafterfouryears of its preparat ion.

135 C onst.

[Sh . Resham La lJangdo]

oftheScheduled C aste andScheduledTribeemployees are deliberately spo iled withoutany rhym e orreason. just inorderto debar

them from furtherprom otions . Wh ile those

belonging to the Scheduled C astes and

ScheduledTribes are sentonleap line . other

employee aftersent onstream line . Who is

go ing to be accountable for all this? TheState Governm ents do not realize theirrespons ibility. ratherthey take it as theirliability. To m ake speeches onit is one th ing but

to put it into practice is som eth ing else . How

m any of the Mem bers of Parliam ent and

State Assem blies have got the cases reg is

terad aga inst practice of untouchability atthe ir own init iatives? There is hardly any

Mem berwho has done so . They th ink that if

they do so . they m ay lose the votes of the

people belonging to general category . So

they are afra id of taking init iatives in the

m atter. If they have courage. they should

take init iative do get the cases registered

aga inst pract ice of untouchability and challans issued aga inst the offenders . They

should fight aga inst such elem ents . But veryfew Mem bers of Parliam ent have courage

and conviction to do so . Iwould like to

appeala llthe Mem bers of the Parliam ent totake init iative inth is regard. Iwould like to

know the num berof cases reg istered inth is

regard during the last 40 years after inde

pendence. lth ink thattherewillbe hardly anyvillage inthe country where untouchabilityhas not been practised . So long as the

polit ics of vote- catch ing is there . th ings will

not improve .

'SHRIMATILALHANSDA (Jhargram ) :

S ir. Irise to support this Billwh ich has beenbroughtforth by the Hon. Minister. Shri Ram

Vilas Paswah forthe welfare of Scheduled

C astes and ScheduledTribes people. Wh ilesupporting it . Iwill like to place a few th ings

before th is House. The progress and im

provem ent of the C onditionof ourSC ST

people is verynecessary inthe interestof theoverallsocia l. econom ic. culturaland polit i

caldevelopm ent cl the whole country . One

MAY 28 . 1990

class of people of ourcountry are tryingto

m ove forward by tram pling upontheseun

fortunate people . But that is not pcssble in

the language of poet Tagore Iwill say.“In

whom youhave throwndown. is pullingyou

downtoo ; and whom you have kept back

ward is also pulling youback (preventingyoufrom m aking any progress ) . The progres ol

the country m eans the progress of all the

people living there in. it does not mean

increas ing enjoym ent of a lltypes ofbeneftsby a handfulof people of the upperstated

society .who have a lready concernedallthebenefits .

S ir. the adivas is the triba ls the so -called

low- caste people raged incessant struggle

aga inst the Brit ish imperia lis ts sacrificing

their own lives . Hero ic stories about them

are heard all over the country . But aflef

'Translationof the speech orig inally delivered inBengali .

Mr. Deputy Speaker. Iknow that in

m any States like B ihar Utta r Pradesh,Madhya Pradesh . Orissa etc. beastly atroci

ties have beencom m itted onthe ScheduledC astes and Scheduled Tribes and theyare

continuing evennow. In1989 the numberof

barbaric atrocit ies com m itted ontheSched

uled C astes and theScheduledTribespeople

alloverthe country were 19 687 and3404

respectively . These atrocities were commi

ted by anlarge by caste Hindus . The anti

socia lelem ents perpetrated m any helmC rim es aga inst them and evenrobbedthe

honourandchast ityofthe irwom enfolkundcr

the instigationofrick landowners .Thehouses

of these poorpeople were burnt downand

they were dispossessed of whateverl'

ttlo

land they had. Such heart- rend ing incidents

are knownto all the Hon. m em bers of thisHouse. Whenever stern adm inistrative ao

tionwere sought to be takenaga inst these

anti - social elem ents . who had the secret

support of som e polit ica l parties like the

C ongress etc efforts have brenmade bythese politica lparties to hush up the cases.

Th is is very despicable . Istrongly condemn

such acts Everybody should condemnsud!

two - faced policy of the C ongress and their

politicalparties .

C onst.

[Sh . MatilalHansda]

should be able to m ake new suggest ions in

the light of the irpract ica l experience inthe

field form ak ing the welfare m easures more

effective .

l- orrea lwelfare of the SC 8 STpeople,

they have to beg ivenactualright to land . For

all the land. that has becom e vested . the

landless SC G ST people shall have to be

restored fullright and controloverthat land .

Iwillurge a lltheHon. Mem bers to look to theachievem ents of West Bengal. S ir. the

amount of land distributed among the lan

dless poorinWest Bengal is ha lf of the totalland d istributed in the whole country onlyKera la and Tripura has shownsom e progress inthe d istributionof vested land. OtherStates have fa llenbeh ind. Th is is due to lack

of good intentionand politica lwill on their

part . Iwill request the Hon. Minister to ar

range fora strictwatch onthe StateGovernm ents by the C entre . The Nationa l FrontGovernm ent has expressed its good intentionof carry ing out land reform s by am ending the C onstitutions . Iam very happy aboutit . ldem and that th is m ay be expedited.

The proposed national com m iss ion

should ensure that the SC G STpeoplewhowork as da ily wage labourers in differentStates . get the just and m inim um wages .

The workers them selves are not very a lertand conscious inth is m atter. The C om m is

s ionshould ass ist them . InWest Bengaltheadivas is and landless labourers have beenable to barga inforsom ewhat higherwagesthrough agitat ions . But inotherStates sucl'.

ag itations and m ovem ents are not verystrong . and inm any places there areno suchm ovem ents at all at present . Therefore the

Nationa l C om m issionshould keep a watch

and see that with launch ing of such agita

tions forbetterwages inthose places theym aynot be tortured m ercilessly aswe find inBihar. Orissa .U.P M.P. etc. Vig ilance is the

key. to the establishm ent and protectionofrights . The Govt . of India should declare

m inimum wages forthe labourers engaged

in agriculture and construction work etc.

MAY 28 .1990

Iwill request the Govt . that inthe appo intm ent of the m em bers of the National

C omm iss ion. priority must be givento their

sense of duty . dedication. sense of social

values and theircom m itm ent fortheweress of the society. They m ust not be ap

po inted to this im portant pos itiondue to the

support of any po liticalparty . Infact a provi

s ionto this effect should have beenmade in

the B ill itself . However. in the m atterof

appointm ent these things should be kept in

m ind .

Ionce aga inextend m y support to thls

Bill andwith that Iconclude .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Ram

Saltwan. yourparty has beenallotted four

m inutes tim e .

(68th Am end. ) Bill 140

wherem ostly SC GSTpeople areemployed.

The Adivas is live infores ts forgenerations

and find the irm eans of livelihood from the

forest products . They have beendeprivedoftheirincom e from the forests inm anycases.

At m any places they have beendeprivedoftheir land also . unscrupulous people have

purchased their land through fraudulent

m ethods . The Govt . should cons iderhow

the land canbe restored to the SC GST

people through enactm entof speciallegisla

tionetc. Forh ighereduca t ionof theSC GST

people specia lprovis ions like grantofschol

arships etc. are there . But along with this

m ore im portance should be givento their

prim ary education. Many superstitions are

prevalent am ong these people and manyof

their activities are based on superstition.

These should be rem oved . Forfreeingthem

from these superstit ious beliefs , comm itted

anddevoted teachers areneeded . Itmustoe

ensuredthatnobody rem a ins illiterate. Inour

C onstitutions . inthe D irective principles of

State Policy. provis ionhas beenm ade for

com pulsory educationof boys andgirlsupto14 years of age . The C entra l Government

should follow the C onstitutiona lprovisionin

this respect and try to educate allourpeople

at a ll levels . Iwill like that m ax im um stress

m aybe put onprim ary educa t ionforsuccessinth is field .

C onst.

SHRI RAM SAJIWAN (Banda ) : Mr.Deputy Speaker. S ir. Ithank youforprovid

i ng m e tim e forfourm inutes . Irise to support

the C onstitut iona l (Am endm ent) Bill fortheWelfa re of Scheduled C astes and Sebed

uled Tribes people . Only th is much canbesa id inthe tim e at m y disposal. But l am to

make som e more points . No doubt. a num

berof good legis lations have beenm ade forScheduled C astes and Scheduled Tribesbut their im plem entationis not effective. Weapprehend that the present leg is lationm ayalso meet the sam e fate. Stillwe hope that

with the tem po with wh ich hon. Ministerhas

brought th is Bill. a new era is expected to he

rald and these laws would be effectivelyimplem ented . Therefore . with this belief inminds . we are to move forward and support

1Howeverm oreexpedit iousness is requiredinthe m atter. The reservationquota m eant

forthem are not fulfilled . The hon. Minister

has sa id that he would get it filled with inone

year. It is a good th ing because by do ing so

hewould becom pleting a taskwh ich wasnot

com pleted by them in40 years . The hon.

Minister deserves to be congratulated for

th is . Due to faulty land reform s laws . people

belong ing to weakersect ions are not given

p ossess ionof the land forwh ich pattas are

g ranted to them . Even if possessionof the

land is g ivento them . crops ra ised onthe

land are destroyed and they are evendis

possessed of the land g iven to them for

construct ing houses forthem . There sorts of

atrocities are being com m itted onthem . In

orderto check these atrocities . youhave to

lake sternm easures and Ihope youwi llnotfind yourself lack ing onthis score . Youhaveto fight aga inst the powerful sect ions of thesociety who put h indrance inthe developM ent andupliftm entofHarijans . as this is the

" ra in problem . Hence you have to m akerh ore vigorous efforts forth is . Theotherday.

a discuss ionwas held intheHouse about thenum berof IndianAm bassadors abroad belong ing to the Harijancom munity . Iwould

l ike to know the num berof persons belonging to the Scheduled C aste and Scheduled

Tribes appo inted as Am bassadors and

Governors . If a leg islationis m ade provid ingfor20to 25°/o reservationforthem inm atters

of appo intm ent ofAm bassadors andGover

J YAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) (681k Am end . ) Bill 142

nors . wewillwelcom e such Iegis lati'

on. Ifyou

have guts and are interested inurshering in

new era . you bring such leg islation. How

m any Vice- C hancellors of Univers ities havebeen appo inted amongst the persons be

long ing to SO/ST? That is why Iam lay ingstress onconnect edefforts to im prove the lot

of these people . There are educated and

honest persons inourcom munity . They arecapable of shouldering such respons ibili

ties . At present. Mr. Paswah is ina pos ition

to do such th ings through constitut iona l

changes . We will support h im if he takes

steps to usherinnew era inthe country . But

inorder to ach ieve this goal. he is not to

contend with triv ia lchanges only but he willhave to bring revolut ionary changes intheC onstitution.

SHRIRAM VILAS PASWAN: If youhave som e idea . pleas elaborate it .

SHRIRAM SAJIWAN: The people belong ing to SC /STshould be appo inted Vice

C hancellors . Governorand to the otherhigh

posts as a lso reservation of seats in the

Rajya Sabha and the VidhanParishads be

provided for them . All of use includ ing the

C .P . l will support it . But if youdon’

t do all

th is. wewould be forced to expose you. You

should boldly take such m easures . There

are m any persons onyours idewho are bentupontheretrograde it. Therefore. Iwould like

to em phas ize that the Harijanwillget justiceonly if youtake firm . honest and revolution

ary steps . They could do little for harijansduring the last42 years . Howare yoursayingthat youwill do a ll th ings for them inone

year? It .s good if youdo it evenwith infive

years . We willcontinue to support you. Wewould not let you fallWe too have to see

whetheryoudo it ornot . Words a lone are

useless . Therefore . Iwould like to warnyou

thatyoushould take som e f irm steps . Whenever any atrocities are com m itted onHar

lians inany state. a report is obta ined . The

report is prepared by the concerned policeInspectorwho tries to hush up that case .

This report is subm itted to the C entra lGovernm ent through State Governm ent. Whatact ionis takenby youonthe report?

143 Discuss . under MAY 28 . 1990 out of cyclonic storm 144

Rule 193 S itua tionaris ing

SHRIRAMVILAS PASWAN:What can

we do whenthe laws are so?

SHRIRAMSAJIWAN:What foryouares itt ing intheGovernm ent whenlaws are so?Laws are violated . this what Iam say ing .

SHRIRAMVILAS PASWAN:BetteraskBasuSahib inth is regard.

SHRIRAM SAJIWAN: First of a ll. youshould get prepared and the entire House.

the m ajority would be with you. if youcom e

forward courageously . Th is is a lllam to say.

and now Iconclude while support ing it .

hrs .

DIS C USSION UNDER RULE 193

S ituatlonarlelng outof thecyclonics torm

Inthe Bay of Bengaland the relief m eas

ures undertakenby the C entralGovern

m ent and Governm ents o f Andhra

Prades h . Tam llNaduandUnionTerrltoryo f Pond icherry

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Houseshallnowtakeupdiscuss ionunderRule 193

onthe s ituat ionaris ing out of the cyclonic

storm in the Bay of Benga l and the relief

m easures undertaken by the C entral andState Governm ents concerned .

Shri PC Thom as— not present.

Shri K .S . Rao .

SHRIK .S . RAO (Mach ilipatnam ) : Mr.

Deputy Speaker. S ir, at least . Ith ink . after20

days afterthe serious devasta t ionthat cc

curred inAndhra Pradesh— it occurred on

the 9th of th is m onth— that th is House could

g ive us som e tim e to discuss the m atter.

(Interruptions ) After 20 days . we are dis

cuss ing it . Fourdays back . Iwas ins ist ing ondiscuss ing th is m atterunderRule 193. In

fact. all the m em bers from Andhra Pradesh

inBay of Bengal etc.

SHRI LOKANATH C HOUDHARY

(Jagats inghpur) : That is the State Govern

m ent’

s work .

Ido not want to repeat the statistics

givenby the hon. Ministerh im self. Morethan

a crore of people have beenafrected by il

Alm ost a ll the coastal districts have been

were aggrieved that th is m attercouldnotbe

discussed for20days . There is a sayingthat

unless a childcries form ilk . the motherdoes

not give h im m ilk . We have beengivingnotices right from the 1oth of this month. But

it could not com e to the m ind of eit herthe

Bus iness Advisory C om m ittee or the Gov

ernm ent to allowth is m atterto be discussed

inthe House . The Governm ent shouldnottake into account how m any m embers arethere inthe C ongress Party from Andhra

Pradesh ; the Governm ent must take intoaccount the feelings of the peopleofAndhra

Pradesh . Had the Minister taken serious

note of the devastationthat had occurredin

Andhra Pradesh— He h im self hadexpressed

it inthenote that hegave the otherday—lam

sure . every m em ber of the House would

have understood how serious it was. lwil

quote only one . If the newspapers and the

Governm ent were to give the numberof

deaths . they started with 30. thenitwenton

to 409. 50and so onup to 1000now. After20

days . obviously. we can understand that

there are still areas which are inaccessble

and the num berof people died couldnotbe

accounted for. till today . The cyclone we

there foronly one day. If it had continuedfor

som e days loanunderstand the irgoingonincreas ing the num berof deaths . There is

som e m eaning if such report s go oncom ing

But the cyclone was there of only one dayand the reports of deaths are continuing to

com e eventoday .

SHRIK .S RAO : The gravity of thecyclone and thepathetics ituat ionof thepeople

canbewell im agined by the fact that several

areas were inaccess ible for quite a long

t im e . That is whywe were m aking anuproar

in the house on the otherday . Itherefore

request the hon. m em bers not to m isunder

stand us .

147 Discuss . under

Rule 193 Situa tionaris ing

[Sh . K .S . Rao]

the farm erinthat part is . ifyouwere to get30

bags of paddy ortwo tonnes of paddy. oneand a ha lf tonnes goes towards expenditure

and the net incom e to the farm eris only oneth ird of total crop y ield. That m eans . if one

crop goes . he willbecom e bankrupt fortwocrops . It takes two years forhim to recover.Inone yearif he loses two crops. thenit willtake four years to recover for h im . Th is

aspect has to be looked into . He should not

be treated like a bus inessm anoranindustrialists . So . the farm er must be understood

properly . He is notgetting thecrop insurance

properly. C rop Insurance a lso applies one if

the crop fa ils . There is no provis ionforsuch

calam ities inthe crop insurance . The C rop

Insurance Act m ust be am ended insuch a

m annerthat the people who loss the crops

like th is also must be compensated . We had

requested the FC Ito open local centres

im m ediately forpurchas ing som e of these

paddy . which is disco loured . wet and even

germ inat ing som etim es . With the hope thatFC Iwill com e and purchase their paddy .they are stillkeeping thepaddy intheirfields .

PC I. though prom ised butnot ina substantia lway. So . m ore prom ise. as Isa id last tim e.

would not help the farm ing community.

S im ilar is the case of poultry people .

S ixty lakhs of poultry were dead and the

insurance people had not gone there . The

poultry farm ers are keeping the dead birdsunderthe fearthat if they are not phys ica llyshown. to the insurance people they willnotrepay . Th is is leading to epidem ic. The sm ell

is unim aginable and it is stinking . Nobodycan go anywhere near it. Fortunately or

unfortunately thedeadcattlewere rem oved .

But these are ly ing there caus ing health

hazards . So . lwant the hon. Ministerto direct

theInsurance C om panies togo to therescue

of these people and m ake a survey im m ediately .

Inregard to self- em ployed personnel. I

do not want to em phas ise once aga inthe

sam e condition.

Drinking water is not ava ilable in the

MAY 28 .1990 out of cyclonic storm 148

villages today. It is polluted . They donothave water. Wateris be ing carried formilestogether. So . im m ed ia te arrangementshave

to be m ade to get underground waterfor

drinking purposes at least. if not forother

purposes .

Iwant to suggest som e permanent

m easureswh ich are to be takenimmediatelyso that th is canbe tackled . Th eGovernmentmust find out the reasonwhy cyclones are

com ing continuously. particularly incoastal

areas . Almost every year we are getting

cyclones . Th is is the experience forthe last

several years . particularly for the last tenyears .

To save the hum anlives . every village

m ust be provided with three orfourcyclone

shelters so that hum anlives canbe savedin

such aneventuality .

There is anotherthought. If at least300

to 400m etres wide area adjacent to thesea

coast is developed with tall trees . thenthe

devastationdue to cyclone wh ich comesat

a speed of 250 kph canbe m inim ised.

S im ilarly. there is proposalonthepet

of the Governm ent of India to construct

coastal roads . Th is coastal road canbeof

use if it is constructed at least 6 to 10metres

h igh to prevent tida l waves or sea water

entering into the villages of the coastalar

eas .

If these perm anent m easures are tobe

taken. though we cannot prevent cyclones.

at least. we can save the five of human

be ings . property . cattle and otherthings. So

th is m ay be g ivena serious thought .

Fina lly. Ionce Aga inrequest the hon.

Minister to declared im m ediately— though

theMinisterhas gold m e persona lly. it ism l

off icially declared— as a national calamity

and ass istance must be giventreating itasa

national calam ity and the State must be

g iven im m ediate ass istance so that the

people have im m ed iate relief.

As severalofm y friends are theretotell

JYAISTHA 7, 1912 (SAKA)

ot her po ints . Iconclude by say ing that theone Ha m Rad io wh ich has helped to a very

great extent inreducing the ca lam ity. It is a

profes s iona l rad io and not a governm ental

organis ationwh ich is do ing alm ost free serv

be . Itdoes not cost anything . But the service

rendered by Ham Radio is enormous . Iwish

the hon. Ministerto go into the deta ils and

assist that Ham Radio . those profess ional

who work vo luntarily in such eventualities .

go to the villages and warnall the villages

through wireless and otherth ings .

[Transla tion]

'SHRI EH. VIJAYAKUMAR RAJU

(Narasapur) : Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. thecyclonic storm on9th egd l oth of this m onthhas affected very badly the state of AndhraPradesh . Tam ilNaduand Orissa have alsosuffered to som e extent .

At the outset Iexpress my deep grati

tude to the Hon. Prim e M inisterwho vis ited

thecycloneaffectedareas ofAndhra Pradesh

on12th and aga inon 19th of this m onth to

study the s ituationpersona lly . He was kind

ofenough to release Rs . 84 crores as grant

immediately . He a lso released Rs . 2 crores

from Prim e Minister’

Relief Fund . C holera

Vaccine and bleach ing powder etc. were

alsosupplied intim e. Thepeople intheState

willeverrem a ingratefulto h im forthe sym

Pathy and understanding he has shown. He

as shownpersonal interest in the rescue

and relief operat ions .

Also . Itake th is opportunity to express'h y grat itude to the Meterolog ica l Depart'F ront of Ind ia for its t im ely warnings whicha verted a m ajor loss of life and property .

S im ilarly all the army . a irforce and navy

p ersonnelwho without caring fortheirlives

rescued m arooned people. provided them

with food and drinking water deserve m yspecial thanks forthe irservices . The Hon.

Ministerof State forAgriculture has g iven

part iculars of loss . Ido notwant to waste the

time of this House repeating the sam e . In

view of theunprecedented loss theGovern

out of cyclonic storm 150

inBay of Benga l etc.

m ent should take the following steps to res

cue the people .

All the insurance and com prehen

s ive crop insurance cla im s should

be settled im m ediately.

All the areas Upto 20 to 25 Km s

from the sea have beensubm ergedby the sweater. The t ida l waves

rang ing from 6 to 10 feet height

have wasted these away everyth ing . The loss is totalEvennowa ll

areas are subm erged under sa ltwater to a depth of 1 ft . to 2 feet .These tidalwaters have depos ited

th ick layer of sa line earth in the

fields detrim ental to so il fert ility .

The Govt . should help the farm ersinremoving the salinity .

4. Pueca buildings should be con

structed for the people who have

lost theirhouses inthe recent cyclone with part of the m oney as

grant. ba lance as loan from the

NationalHousing Bank .

5 . (a ) The outstanding crop loans

should be writtenoff .

(b) Fresh loans must be sanc

tioned for the com ing Khariff

season.

6 . Inrespectof the Poultry Farm s . the

present outstanding loans should

be converted into long term loans

’

Translationof the speech orig ina lly delivered inTelugu.

In thousands of acres the paddystacks st ill lay under 1 to 2 feet

water. Thepaddy stacks have beencompletely soaked inthe continu

ous heavy ra ins . The Govt . should

purchase this disco louredpaddy orrice by relaxing the specifications

through Food C orporationof Indiaand Andhra Pradesh Rice Federationas they have done inthe caseof Punjab inthe past .

Discuss . under

Rule 193 S ituationaris ing

[Sh . Eh . Vijayakum arRaju]

and fresh loans should be sanc

t ioned to undertake repa irs to the

structures .

7 . Im m ed iate steps should be taken

to supply drinkingwaterintankers .

Steps should a lso be takenim m e

diately to supply fodderto the surviving cattle population. The entire

respons ibility should not be left tothe state . governm ent a lone .

Sir. Iwant to m ake few suggestions

wh ich will help in averting the tragedy incom ing years . Experts have predicted that

the sea levelm ight go up by 3or4 feet inthenext com ing 3 or4 decades . Insuch a case

the ent ire area willbe subm erged inthe seawater. The adjacent agricultura l lands willlose theirferti lity . Lakhs ofpeople have to beevacuated to saferplaces . Allof them have

to be rehabilitated . One canwellim agine the

huge expend iture involved inth is . Hence an

expert C om m ittee should be appo inted to

study the entirem atterthorough ly . Appropri

ate steps should be takento avert the pre

dicted ca lam ity . Following steps will help inavert ing the future danger.

Kolleru is a world fam ous lake . Manyart if icia l lakes have com e up inrecent yearsto boost fishery . New Roads have beenla idaround it . Manynewfarm s have springup. In

fact . Kolleruis not the Kolleruonce it used to

be . As a result thewasterwateris not flowingout freely . quiteoftenresult ing inthe inundationof adjacent areas . Krishna . GodavariD istricts are receiving floods m a inly onthisaccount .

Hence to serve Krishna and GodavariD istricts from th is danger it is necessary todig Peranta la Kanum ucana l to take such

water to Upputeru at a fasterpace . Also a

regulatorshould be constructed to save the

area from the back lash of sea water.

The Governm ent should a lso take upthe following works inorderto avert inunda

tiondue to heavy ra ins and floods :

MAY 28 . 1990 out of cyclonic storm 152

inBay of Bengaletc.

Bickaq should be diverted

b) Kovvada C ana l should be

diverted to Godavari and a reservoirshouldbe constructed onit.

c) Erra Ka luva should be di

verted to Godavari :

d) Tham m ileruprotectionbunds

should be ra ised and strengthened.

e) Apara lleldra into Enamadumt

dra inshould be dug up. The old coursed

Gontherudra inshould be repa ired immedi

ately to dra inout waste wa ter into thesea

Otherwise seawaterm ay flowbackcausingenormous dam age to the entire area.

S ir. ldo agree that theworks m entioned

above should be takenup by the StateGovt.

S ince the State Govt . has no money to

undertake theseworks it has beenpostpon

ing thework indefinitely . EastGodavari.West

Godavari and Krishna D istricts of thedelta

reg ion are suffering year afteryearonac

count of heavy floods . Hence Iappealtothe

C entra l Govt . to take up the above men'

tioned works as a part of the strategy to

com bat floods . Budam eruprotectionbunds

should a lso be ra ised and strengthened.

A portion of Gunderu and Battiprobu

dra ins should be diverted to riverKrishna.

Allthe m ajor. m edium and m inordrains

should be widened and deepened inthe

delta area . Bunds should be a lsobe strenglll'

ened and widened so as to utilise them as

coastal roads . Suff icient num berof regula

tors should be constructed to prevent sea

waterentering the land . S ir. both the State

Govt . and C entral Govt . should team to

undertake the above m entioned works.We.

the farm ers of the area are a lso readyIO

contribute ourm ight forthe execut ionofthis

g igantic task . We areprepared to paybetter

m ent tax if necessary . Only by tak ing the

above- m entioned m easures . wewillbeable

to avert inundationof these lands by 593

water inthe com ing decades .

155 Discuss . under MAY 28 .1990 out of cyclonic storm 156

Rule 193 S ituationaris ing

[Sh . Harish Rawat]

there is no request from the TreasuryBenches . It least theMinistershould m ake a

request

Transla tion]

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEDEPARTMENT OF AGRIC ULTURE ANDC OOPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OFAGRIC ULTURE (SHRINITISH KUMAR) :We have no object ion. we are ready .

SHRIK .S . RAO : If the hon. Minister

agrees to take it up tom orrow. it is O K

otherwise we can continue today .

Transla tion]

SHRINITISH KUMAR: We are pre

pared. it a lldepends onyou. We cancom

plete it today itself.

[English]

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER:Wewillgoupto seveno

'clock because there are so m any

otherm atters to be discused tomorrow.

Transla tion]

SHRISHOPAT SINGH MAKKASAR

(Bikaner) : S ince it is a serious m atterwe

should finish'

we today .

hrs .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ith inkwe arediscuss ing a very im portant issue. Let us

discuss it insuch a fash ionthat som eth ingcom es outof it . It is a fact that tha cyclone has

hit the area andpeople have suffered. There

is no d ispute about it . There are certa in

th ings which are done by the StateGovernm ent. There arecerta inthingswh ich have to

bedone by the C entra lGovernm ent and theState Governm ents need som e ass istance

inBay of Bengaletc.

and allthat . Let us class ify that anddiscussit . There is no po int in repea ting the same

thing what otherhon. Mem bers have said.

Something should com e out of the discus

s ion.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is trus thatthe ent ire easterncoasta l area is covered

with the cyclone warning system throwl'l

Satellites . This is done through the Space

Departm ent .

SHRIKUSUMA KRISHNA MURHTY:S ir. Iwill give the suggest ions insteadof

narrating the s ituationthere . Sir. duringthe

tim ewhencyclone occurred last time. lalso

requested thento insta l a radarsystem atMachillipatnam and they d id it. Thatwassetup. but it has beentota lly dam aged inthe

present cyclone . During the cyclone, our

experience is that one radarsystem willnot

be enough to help the people inwamingaboutposs ibleoccurrenceofcycloneJ herefore. there should be two m ore radarsys

tem s . Apartfrom one at Mach illipatnam thero

should be one at Kak inada and anotherat

Am alpuram and the radarsystem inMasuli

patnam should be repaired because it hasbeen heavily dam aged in the present cyclone.

SHRIKUSUMA KRISHNA MURTHY:

Sir. apart from that. th is tim e thecommunica

tionsystem s have com pletely brokendorm.

The installationand improvem ent of wi s

less system would go a long way inhelping

people inthecoasta lareas . speciallyduring

the cyclone.

S ir. the farm ers have lost everything

and the C entral Governm ent have g’

yon

relaxationinthe m atterof purchasingpaddy

from the farm ers thereby the F . C . l. whether

it is discoloured or part ia lly spoiled. The

State Governm ent m ade a ll possible ar

rangem ents and the D istrict Adm inistration

has a lso com e a b ig way to help the P.c. l.

S ir. Ihave beenthere forabout 20days and

lhave seenthe problem s faced by thefarm

ers there. The F. C . l. is not at allresponding

inpurchasing theirpaddy . Iwould li te the

hon. Ministerto take th is m attervery ser‘r


ously . Inspite of the fact that the Governm ent has given relaxat ion. P. C .I. has not

responded to help the farm ers and they are

always ins isting ontheirownnorm s . instead

of responding to the relaxednorm s . They aretry ing to look aftertheirowninterests insteadof looking the interests of the farm ers . Th is is

a specia l s ituat ion of Its k ind and it is a

nationalcalam ity. Therefore. Ipleadwith the

C entralGovernm ent that theymust im m edi

ately instruct the FC I. to helpthe farmers by

purchasing theirpaddy . C om ing to the ass is

tance, Im ay po int out that declaring the

ass istance ina rout ing way by the C entralGovernm ent is not sufficient . The hon. C h ief

Ministerof Andhra Pradesh m ade it clearin

the recent interview with the World Bankteam that the C entralGovernm ent’s ass istance ofRs . 86 crores willnot be sufficient to

provide food and reasonable sheltereveninthetwo districts . Therefore. the C entre should

respond ina big way . Iwould request theC entra lGovernm ent to bearat least 50% of

the total loss occurred inthe recent cyclone .

Bes ides . there are num berof areas whereassistance has not reached properly be

cause therearebigbreaches ontheNational

Highways . Eventoday m ost of the affected

places are unapproachable and there are

num berof breaches onthe roads . Evenfor

me it has taken20 days to reach the m a in

land. Therefore . theNat ionalHighways andtheotherroad system s must be repa ired andimproved im med iately . specia lly on the

coasta l areas . Ihave been insisting theGovernm ent to construct the coastal road

between Thada and Itchapuram and this

road construct ionshould be takenup right

sam ast and if necessary it should be taken

uponwar- footing basis . Itwilldefinitely help

the affected areas ina very big way .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You have

already spokenfor10 m inutes .

SHRIKUSUMA KRISHNA MURTHY :Before concluding . Iwould like to impress

upon the Governm ent at Andhra Pradeshinherited a crippled econom y. Secondly. thes evere powerout put ha lt to the progress of

industrial growth . Onboth these counts it

Iha il from Bihar. Bihar is the worst

suffererof floods . People are facing a lot of

difficulties afterthiscyclone . Epidem icbreaks

out afterfloods . Iwould like to request youthat the centra l ass istance should be g iven

toBihar.WestBenga l. PondicherryandTam ilNadu to the extent poss ible . Farmers inthese states should be givenloans as their

crops have beendestroyed. S ide- by- s ide.

preventive m easures should also be taken

to check spread of disease as also drinkingwatershould be provided .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Drinkingwaterhas to be provided by State Governm ent. not by the C entra lGovernm ent.

SHRIJANARDANYADAV: Iwould like

to reiterate that the m ax im um ass istance

should be provided to the cyclone- h it states

to com pensate the econom ic loss suffered

by them .



requires much more help in th is hour of

need. Therefore. onthese counts the Gov

em ment should think ina bigway and com e

forward with big financial ass istance that

would definitely help relieve the distress of

the people of Andhra Pradesh now.

SHRIJANARDANYADAV (Godda ) :Mr.Deputy Speaker. Sir. Andhra Pradesh wastheworth h itfrom thecyclonethat developed

in the Bay of Bengal on the 2nd May .

'

It

para lysed the life inAndhra Pradesh andcaused m assive devastation. S im ilarly. the

coastalareas of Bengalalso suffered heavyloss due to this cyclone . These areas of

Bengal and its bordering areas inBihardidnot receive any centra l ass istance . Due to

th is cyclone. the districts of Dum ka . Godda .

Sahibganj . Pakurn Bihar received heavyra infa ll. All the Kuchha houses were col

lapsed in the heavy ra in. They are livingunder open sky in this hot season. The

C entralGovernm ent has takenno steps tom itigate theirhardsh ips .



hrs .

SHRI LOKANATH C HOUDHURY

(Jagats inghpur) : Mr. Deputy - Speaker. S ir.

the cyclone that lashed the easternreg ion

speciallyAndhra Pradesh is like a Prelaya. It

is perhaps theworst inthecyclone history ofIndia . Iam telling th is because Icom e from

the State whre cyclone invariably com es inthe cyclic order in every three years and

neverthe speed of the wind was less than

240k ilom etres . So . what do 240 kilom etres

m ean?Thosewho have beeninthe m idst of

cyclone would have felt it . So . s ir. the cy

clone as it has been stated has becomesom ething different . If yousee the h istory ofcyclone in the l gth century . in the 181h

century and inthis century. youwillsee thatit is more frequent row. Neverbefore. itwas

like th is . Som eth ing has happened to the

natura l process . Therefore. cyclone has

becom e a lm ost a regularth ing inth is coun

try . A lot of dam age has beencaused in

Andhra Pradesh . It is beyond the powers ofanyStateGovernm ent to m eet the s ituation.

Thepeople shouldbe m a inta ined tillthenext

crop is nurtured . The fertile lands of Gunturdistrict of Andhra Pradesh are inundated by

Saline waters . That land willrem a inunpro

duct ive and willnot be fit forcultivat ionfor

five years and drinking water will not be

ava ilable. Iam speaking from m yexperience

inOrissa . So . the Governm ent should dosom ething to m a inta inthe people tillthenext

crop is ra ised . The second th ing is that theyshould do som eth ing forthe land so that it is

cultivatedand ruralpeoplera ise theircrops . It

requires a high cost . No State Governm entcanm eet the s ituat ion. The Prim e Minister

him self has sa id: if it is not a nationa lca lam

ity. thenwhatwillbenat iona lcalam ity? Ifyoutreat som eth ing as a nationalcalam ity . is itthe respons ibility of the State Governm enta lone? The Governm ent of India has re

leased only Rs . 32 crores out of the FinanceC om m iss ion

’

sgrant fornatura lca lam ity .Willit be suff icient to m eet the s ituation? There

fore . insuch cases where such devastation

takes place and hum anm isery com es to th is

pos ition. it should be first the respons ib ilityof

inBay of Bengaletc.

Anotherpo int is . there shouldbeagreen

belt and in the cyclone areas . intensive

warnings are to beg iven. It is becauseof the

warnings that the lives could be saved. In

the C entral Governm ent to come forward

with help. It should not behave inawaythat

som e otherGovernm ent is there and our

Governm ent is different . Such a traditionhasbeencreated inth is country. Th e national

ca lam ity should be treated as nationalse

Iam ity involving all the nat iona l parties. Mysubm iss ionis to lessenthe difficulties ofthe

people of Andhra Pradesh. it is the primaryrespons ibility of the Governm ent of lndia totreat it as a national ca lam ity and hob theAndhra Pradesh Governm ent because theresources of the State Government arenotenough to m eet the requirem ents .

InOrissa also . we are apprehendingcyclone every three years . The speedofthe

wind that had hit theAndhra coast indicated

som eth ing . Whena lowpressure comes.weshould see whether the speed of the wind

canbe checked. S im ilarm ethods arebeing

applied inAmerica . Aga in and again. cyclone is destroying the easterncoast and

m akes the life m iserable there. So. the

Governm ent of India should th ink about

preventing in by lim iting the speed of the

wind so that thedam age is reduced. Forthat

purpose. the new m ethods wh ich are ap

plied ln the Am erica and other countries

should tried here a lso . To check this. a

coastal road cum em bankm ent is necessary . When thousands of people died in

Orissa . Shri B ijuPatna ik who was the then

Planning Board C ha irm an. em ployed a

comm iss ion under the leadersh ip of Dr.

Khosla . a renowned eng ineer. He said that

this canbe checked. if there is a h ighwayon

the coastline . It should start from Haldia to

Ram eshwaran in Tam ilnadu on Eastern

coast . Th is perm anent m easure should be

takento tackle cyclone . It is h igh- t im e totalre

actionwhen the dam age occurred due to

cyclone inAndhra Pradesh is staggering.

The Governm ent has estim ated the loss toone thousand crores of rupees . To check

such anextent ofdam age. prevent ivemeas

ures should be taken.

163 Discuss . under


[Prof. N.G . Ranga]

Every year. certa inpercentage of the na

lionel revenue should be contributed. Un

less we have som e such financial equipment. it would not be poss ible forthe Governm ent to go to the rescue of the sufferers .

Thenthere is the questionof cred it. Myhon. friend Shri K. S . Rao has already re

ferred to it . There is the credit which is

needed by the farmers and wh ich has al

ready beensupplied to the farm ers butwhichcannot be repa id at a ll. The long

- term cred it

wh ich has beensupplied to the farm ers for

wh ich insta lm ents have got to be pa id. those

instalm ents have got to be writtenoff . For

two years thereafter. the capacity of the

farm ers would not be there to repay thesethings . S im ilarly. taxes also . Land revenue.

for instance. has to be writtenoff. So m anyotherth ings have to be done .

Iwould like m y hon. friend the M inister

incharge of it . to get a regularsum m ary of

the speeches and suggestions'

m ade here

and a lso in the other House and let their

officers give them the necessary advice in

deta il as to how much help has to be ren

dered to the State Governm ent . This t im e. I

m ust congratulate the C entralGovernm entfor dism iss ing the earlier delay ing procodures and foradvancing money to the StateGovernm ent and a lso for sending StudyGroups so on. But that it is not enough .

Whateveradvance they have g iventoday isnot at allenough 20t im es such advance has

a be given. Wherefrom is anotherm atter.

The help of insurance com panies has to be

invoked. Banks have got to be also pressedinto service .

Having sa id all th is . what is it that theycando? At least now, as Ihave sa id. theyshould express theirgratitude. to the weav

ers . to the Harijans . to the backward class

people and to the helpless people . forhaving

risen to help them selves and m aking their

hero ic effort inorderto withstand the shock

of this terrible calam ity and thenprove themselves hero ic as befitting Indiancitizens .

MAY 28 . 1990 out of cyclonic s torm 164


SHRIA.N. SINGHDEO (Aska ) : S ir. Iwi llnot take m uch tim e as the m atterhas been

discussed thoroughly. But Iwant to just po intout that though the cyclone has vastly devestated the Andhra State yet a port ion of

Orissa has beenvery badly affected. that is .

theGanjam District ofOrissa . Unfortunately .

theGovernm ent has not takenany note of itand no team has beensent to the GanjamD istrict . From the last assessm ent wh ich I

got from the C ollectorof theGanjam District.thedam age to crops . theGovernm ent buildings . roads . private buildings etc. . com es to

nearly Rs . 20crores inonly a port ionof the

district which has affected . Wh ile cons idering this cyclone which has takenplace inAndhra . the bordering district ofOrissa . that

is . the dam age done to the Ganjam D istrict.must a lso be taken into cons iderat ion and

sufficient help m ust be givento the Govem

m ent of Orissa forrelief m easures .

There is anotheraspect which we have

not takeninto cons iderationthat is about the

Iwould a lso like to take this Opportunityto po int out a few m atters wh ich need im m e

d iate attention. As you know. our friends

have a lready described how the Eastern

C oast is prone to cyclonic cond it ions . The

worstcyclonicconditionthatwe have seenisinAndhra and inOrissa . Therewas a tim e in

Orissa in1971 . whenthe cyclone took aboutlives . If youcannot prevent a cclone.

at least, youshould take som e m easures so

taht the bruntof thecyclone is lessened . Out

ofthe m any suggestions thatweregivenandmooted inthose days . one was that everyvillage should youshould take have a ra ised

platform to provide a shelterto the cyclone

h it and flood hit people . Andwheneverthere

is som e m easures so that the brunt of thecyclone or flood. the villagers should be

evacuated to take shelter in those places .

But. unfortunately . noth ing has beendone .

As m y hon. friend as sa id . it is neverposs iblefor any State Governm ent to take these

m easures . It is tim e whenthe C entra lGov

ernm ent starts planning ina properm anner

to prevent th is devastationof cyclone and at

the sam e tim e to com e to the help of the

State Governm ents .

D'

s ctm m nder

Fh rfe l sti snuatrbnar'

s h g

aop da m a g e . Whenthere is a cycb ne . the

lected . It is only the poorclass . the Harijan

d iod e-d and especially the fa merclass. II

weha ve a perm anentcorp insuranceschem e

a rdwhenthere is a cycfone ora fboddf they

schem e that will go in a grad measure to

hob thes e people . Second th ing is . the

C entra lGovernment had started a schem e

anyearback knownas fireproect ionsd tem e

h r g iving insurance compensat ion to fire

mooted villages . Unfortunately . it has not

beenwo rking successq and inourSta te

not a single pie has beenpa id under th is

schem e . But the scheme is there. Iwould

request the C entra lGovernm ent to extend

this fire insurance schem e also to cyclone

and flood affected areas so that whenever

any v illage ora house is washed away orb lownout. the poorpeople should be able to

im m ediately obta inth is com pensat ionfromth is s im ilar schem e like the fire insurance

schem e . Therefore . these m easures m ust

be taken up im m ediately . Otherwise youneve r know when and at wh ich place the

cyclone will h it next year— it m ay be Tam ilNadu; it m ay be Orissa ; it m ay be West

Bengal or it m ay be Andhra . The whole

Eas ternC oast is prone to cyclone .

With these suggestions . Iwould aga in

request theGovernm ent to take into cons iderat ionthe flooddam age that has beendoneto the Ganjam D istrict and provide necessary help.

SHRIGOPINATH GAJAPATHI(Berham pur) :MrDeputy Speaker. S ir. ~the extento f lo ss to hum anlives anim als birds as wella s property inthe State of Andhra Pradeshcanwellbe gauged by the deta iled report on

the cyclone presented to th is House by thehon. M inister of

‘

State forAgriculture Shrr

Nitish Kum arrecently . Inthis regard. l take

th is Opportunity inexpress ing m y heartfelt

condo lences to the m em bers of the be

reaved fam ily . Iearnestly request the C entralGovernm ent to offermore libera l ass is

tance both incash and k ind to the affected

people of Andhra Pradesh . Tam il Nadu.

1912 (SAKA) M d m m res

i rBay d Berpd ee .

Oriss a as wel as of the UnionTerr'

t ory of

Pondd terrt e promm of the cycbne af

fed ed areas’

nAndhra Pradesh by the I-Ion.

Prime Minia er and Shri Rajiv Gandh i are

Furthera long term planm ust be im plem ented to repa irthe dra inage system and

protect the people. in the general sense.

living along theone thousandkilom etrecoast

line of the State of Andhra Pradesh .

It is reliably learnt that the United Stateshas g iven 25 thousand US Dollars to thePrim e Minister

’s Relief Fund to ass ist the

victim s of cyclone h it districts of Andhra

Pradesh . Th is is according to the UnitedStates Inform ationService release . Ih igh lycom m end this exem plary hum anitarian

gesture . Ia lso take th is opportunityto appea l

to all corners of the world for renderingim m ediate liberal ass istance to a ll the cyclone aflected vict im s of Pondicherry. thestates of Tam ilNadu. Andhra Pradesh and

Orissa .

InOrissa State . Iwish to fum ish deta ils

of dam ages to life and property reported in

the Econom ic Tim es. dated the 24th May1990. Iquote:

“Irrigationprojects .

roads and bui ld

ings suffered serious dam ages inthe

recent ra ins that lashed Orissa’

s

Ganjam D istrictandtheresultant floodswith the loss estim ated at aboutRs . 20

crores . according to a prelim inary officia lestim ate .

”

756 houses were com

pletelyrazed in419villageswh ile7965

houses were partially dam aged . One

personwas killed when an electric

We have observed from past experi

ences tl'rat owing to the geograph icnatureof

thecoast IineofTam ilNaduAndhra Pradesh .

Oriss a and evenWest Bengal. these stateshave becam e h ighlycycloneprone. Hence it

is worth while seriously explore the idea of

providing m ore cyclone shelters orcircular

shaped buildings wh ich are m ore cyclone

res istant . Th ese should be put up a ll alongthe m ast line of the Bay of Bengal.



[Sh . Gopinath Gajapath i]

pole fell onh im . The high floods had

badly h it several villages underBh ism ag iriPanchayatofD igapahandiBlockof thedistrict . The riverswh ichwrought

havoewere theRushikulya . Godahad.

Vam sadhara . Ramnadi and its tribu

taries . The est im ates showed that the

Ghodahad m edium irrigation projectsusta ined dam age as the swo llen

wa ters overtopped the reservo irwh ile

thecana ls breached theem bankm entsat severa l po ints . Severa l hundreds

acres of paddy land was sandcast byRam nad i inD igapahandi Block . The

sources sa id that the floods played

havoc in the riverin villages in Pa

Iakhem undi subdivis ion entering 50

villages in Parlakhemundi and Kas i

nagarblocks .

”

The flood waters . wh ich crossed the

red m ark at Kas inagar. entered into

low ly ing areas of the town. dem olishing severa l hundred m ud houses of

poorHarijans .

According to inform at ionreach ing here .

at least 500 m inor irrigat ionprojectssuffered heavy dam ages onthe eve of

paddy sowing season. Many of the

irrigat ion tanks were breached inDi

gapahand i . Sankehm andi. C h ikiti and

C hatrapurblocks .

Although the Bha lluabha i m inorirriga

tionproject hadnot suffered any m ajordam age. its fourkm long cana ls were

breached at severalpo ints and aboutone dozenstructures had co llapsed .

"

S ir. Ihave takentheva luable tim eof thisaugust House part icularly to apprise the

hon. Ministerof state forAgriculture present

here of the fulldeta ils . Lastweek , whenIhad

a personaldiscuss ionwith the hon. Minister

to request h im for rendering im m ediate

ass istance to the flood- affected vict im s of

Ganjam D istrict of Orissa State. Iwas per

plexed to know that the official report from

theGovernm entofOrissa hadnotyet reached

the C entre. to enable the later it render

speedy ass istance to the flood - affectedvic

tim s of Ganjam .

In th is regard. Ihave writtentwice to

taken up with the hon. C h ief Ministerof

Orissa as well as the D istrict C ollectorofGanjam to exped ite the essential official

report to the C entre .

Inkeepingwith the decis ionofmypartyleader. Shri Raj iv Gandh i. for donationofone months

’

sa lary

by all C ongress ( l) MP3 forcyclone relieftoAndhra Pradesh . Iam pleased to donatein

m yownsm a llway myone m onths’

salaryfor

the flood- affected vict im s of Ganjam districtto wh ich Ibelong .

Itake th is opportunity once againin

earnestly appea ling to the C entralGovern.

m ent to offer its m ax imum ass istance. both

incash and kind. to the cyclone victimsol

Ganjam D istrict inth is hourof calam ity.

SHRIA. VIJAYARAGHAVAN(Palghallz

S ir. regarding the natura l ca lam ity . whichhad takenplace inAndhra Pradesh. thehon.

Mem bers have a lready d iscussed thedeta ils and the velocity of the problem s faced

by the farm ers and people .

Iwould also like to po int out someofthe

difficulties faced by the people of Andhra

Pradesh . As a personfrom Kerala . wehave

acute shortage of rice. Only one - th irdofthe

required quantity of rice is produced inKer

ala and we are always collecting it from

Andhra Pradesh . If there is no ra ininAndhra

Pradesh . thenthe Kera lites willa lwaysoral

forra inInAndhra Pradesh because if thel‘

willbe ra ininthat state thenonly willwegel

rice. Th is tim e . afterhearing about this ca

lam itywe are quite afra id about the s ituation

inourState . So . wh ile discuss ing this thing.

Iwould like to reca ll som ething about the

defects inrelief . Eventhoughwe hadenottgh

idea before - hand regarding the naturalca:

lam ity. which was go ing to take place. there

were reports that there was adequate relief

Discuss . under


[Sh . A. Wjayaraghavan]

terwas born on a day when there were

floods ; h is fatherfell into the floods and the

Ministerwas a lso swept away inthe water.There was no ass istance by the Government at that tim e .

But this tim e. ourPrim eMinisterwent tohave an oh - the- spot assessm ent of the

cyclones . He announced Rs . 86 crores of

help to theGovernm ent ; without any form alrequest orm emorandum . the C entralGov

ernm ent has givenRs . 32 crores onthe spot .

Iwouldcongratulate theGovernm ent forth is

and request them to take further steps to

assist the people.

[Transla tion]

SHRIJ . C HOKKA RAO (Karimnagar) :Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. the cyclone hasbrought m isery to crores of people . yet there

has beenless dam age and devastationth is

time because the scientists of ourcountryforewarned it som e two - three days in ad

vance . Iwould . therefore. like to thank those

scientists through you. Secondly. Iwould

like to thank the Governm ent too for itsinstant and tim ely ass istance rendered to

the affected people . Then. the hon. Mem

bers who com e from Andhra Pradesh and

Orissa have givensome very good sugges

tions here intheHouse . lwould like to render

two - three suggestions m ore rather than

repeat the suggestions already given bythem . The Governm ent should keep inm indthe suggestions that have beengivenhere

fora perm anent solutionto th isproblem . The

hon. Prim eM inisterand the hon. Ministerof

Agriculture pa id an im m ediate vis it to the

cyclone- hit areas and prom ised large sca le

assistance and relief m easures there . Then

our hom Mem bers from Andhra Pradesh

and the State Finance Ministertoo m et the

hon. Prim eMinisterthere . Heprom isedevery

poss ible ass istance to them . Hewas ofview

that m ore any m ore ass istance inthis case

should com e from the centre itself becauseth is was a huge and difficult task and the

StateGovernm ents couldnot do anything in

MAY 28 .1990 out of cyclonic s torm


it becausetheirfinances arevery lim ited and

reliefmeasures couldnot be takenupunless

the C entralGovernmentcomesforward. Th is

is the viewof Mem berof every party . Ihope

that the concerned hon. Ministerwill com e

forward to announce the prom ised centra l

a id to m eet the s ituation.

17a fe!lt

rail

fl

Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. with regard tothe loanwa iverschem e of the C entra lGov

ernm ent . it has been sa id here that the

Government is go ing to proceed with it . Th eC entral Governm entshould wa ive the cc

operative loans as well. Im eanto say that

you should . at first wa ive the loans of the

cyclone affected people ofAndhra Pradesh .

keeping inview the extent of loss they have

sufferedforthwith and furthergive them fresh

loans so that they canearna livelihood . Do

not get bogged downinC entre- State wran

glings . ratherinit iate reliefm easures exped i

tiously. Aga in. write off otherloans . if any. of

such people .

Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. the wholecyclone hit village rem a ined inundated in

waterfor3-4days altogether. Derooted trees

lay flat across the roads but the surroundingvillagers . who were them selves a poorandhungry lot. cleared the roads of a ll the ob

stacies aga inst heavy odds and helped out

the affected people. I'

would like to thank

them allthrough this House. Without caringfortheirlives . they chopped thewood of thefa llen trees and cleared off the roads for

com munication. Th us . Isay that the rura l

people always com e forward to the help ofothers despite being them selves inpa inand

m isery. Such affected peoplewillm igrate to

the cities andconfront m any oddproblem s if

we fa ilto evolve a perm anent solutionto the

problem . My subm iss ionis that credit shouldbeg ivenforthwith to such poorpeople as the

agricultural labourers . weavers and fisher

m enas well. The loans they have drawntill

should be writtenoff and further advance

loans givento them so as to m ake them able

to earna livelihood.

“

Then. any extra loans

g ivento them by the coo perative orother

banks should be based oneasy term s of

conditions . Thewhole paddy produce of the


Inner h as been dam aged by getting

“ m ired km water. Iexpress m y thanks to

InG overnm ent of India for the relaxation

treyhave giveninpurchasing this damaged

poduco . They have takena timely act ion.

Blathere is no furtherpurchas ing there . Th is

and a coestal area alone . It is veryunfortu

naetha 60 ld th people inthecoastalareas

ofAndhra Pradesh have beenaffected byh is. Along with th is . som e of the paddy

produce has been dam aged due to the

subsequent excess ive ra ins inTelangana .

Kham m am .

’

Waranga l. Nalgounda . and

Karimnagar and relaxation should be ex

tended to these areas as well. It is veryregretful that paddy has beensold at a priceof Rs . 40 lesserthan the support price at

Karim nagar. wh ich is m y constituency and

no m ill and no traderis ready to buy it evenat th is price . The Food C orporat ionof Indiaha s opened upcerta incentres onthe eve of

the advent ofRabi seasonbut the lowerrungoff icia ls of the corporationare divesting the

fa rm ers incollusionwith the traders . The

C entra lGovernm ent orthe hon. M inister is

very sym pathetic to us aftermuch of pressure was exerted by us and so is the FoodC orporat ion but lakhs of people are still

suffering out of it inTelangana area . It has

brought m isery to 60lakh people inth is Deltaarea . InTelangana area too . the crop is

selling at Rs . 40 less thanthe support price

and it has inflicted heavy losses uponallthefarm ers . C oo perative loans should be ex

tended forthwithwithout beingIanguished inthe debate entrusting the respons ibilitythereof eitheruponthe C entra lorthe State

Governm ent. Again. the C entre shouldwrite

off the loans Upto Rs . Iwould like to

speak forhalf a m inutemore. The seeds and

the fertilizers should be distributed free of

cost . As most of the land has beenrendered

unproductivedue to the cyclone . the farm ers

should be g ivena 50% subs idy oras muchas they need in the next season for the

purpose of carry ing out the ir farm ing . The

fa rm ers cannot cult ivate anyth ing in the

com ing seasons if this a id is not givennow

and this will affect theireconom ic pos ition

very adversely inthenext yearaswell.Wh ilebringing this to yournotice . Itake yourleave .



MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes . Mr.

Minister.

SHRIK.S . RAO : S ir. Ihave givena list

of a few Mem bers who want to speak .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Five speak

ers from yourparty have already spoken.

Youshould have decided as to how to allot

the tim e . Ihave beenwarning youfrom the

morning .

SHRIK.S . RAO : Sir. it is a very im portant subject so they Want to speak .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Iwillgive youtim e but please don

‘

t repeat the po ints . You

have givenm e tennames which are to be

adjusted in40m inutes .

SHRIK.S . RAO : S ir. please don‘

t get

angry .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You shouldunderstand the difficulties of others a lso . I

cangiveyouas much tim e as is poss iblebut

what is thepo int inrepeat ing thewhole th ing .

We are already s itt ing late.

SHRIK.S . RAO : S ir. it is a very impor

tant subject.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: That is whywe extended the tim e from pm . to

pm . Allright . youdon’

t nowwaste the tim e .

Yes . Shri A. Venkata Reddy .

SHRIA. VENKATA REDDY (Ananta

pur) :Mr. DeputySpeaker. S ir. youare aware .

there was a terrible loss of life and dam ageto property inAndhra Pradesh due to therecent cyclone . The State Governm ent hastakenvery prom pt act ionand a save a lot of

lives . The agriculturists and the labourclass

were affected very badly and the State

Governm ent is do ing very good things in

order to help the victim s and the needy

people . The Prim e Ministerwas pleased to

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[Sh . A. Venkata Reddy]

vis it theaffectedareas and announcedsom e

relief and the reliefwh ichwas announced by

the Prim e Minister is not adequate . There

fore . Iwould request the hon. Minister of

Agriculture. who is is present inthe House.

and also thePrimeMinisterto grantmore a id

libera lly . because. there is a heavy loss of lifeandproperty inthe area . Ihope and trust that

the C entra lGovernm ent wi lldo the needfulinthe m atter.

Iwould also bring to your kind noticethat in addition to cyclone affected areas ,

there are areas wh ich are affected bydroughts andfam ines . Iam very glad that theState Governm ent and the C entralGovernm ent are taking prom pt actionas faras the

areas which are affected by cyclone are

concerned . As far as the areas which are

affected by droughts and fam ines are concerned . the State Governm ent and the

C entral Governm ent are not taking themvery seriously . Because. whenever anydrought orfam ine occurs . the people suffer

due to want of ra in. drinkingwaterand food .

The people who sufferdue to drought or

fam ine are m ore thanthe peoplewho suffer

due to cyclone . Therefore. Iwould requestthe State Governm ent and the C entra l

Governm ent to take prompt actionand take

perm anent m easures forthe eradicationof

fam ine . Ihope and trust that the State Gov

ernm ent and the C entra lGovernm entwilldothe needful inthe m atter.

In Andhra Pradesh . there is a Ray

a lseem a reg ionwh ich consists of Ananta

pur. Kurnool. C uddappa and so on.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Anantapur

district is not a cyclone affected district .

SHRIA. VENKATA REDDY : They arebackward districts . The condition of the

agriculturists and labourclass is very poor

and they are becom ing stillpoor. The ra infallin the Anantapur district is very low. It re

ceives second lowest ra infall inIndia . Anan

tapurdistrict is suffering because of fam ine .

Because of vagaries of m onsoon. people

MAY 28 .1990 out of cyclonic storm 176

SHRIBALGOPAL

Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. Ido not want torepeat what other speakers have already

told .

Iwould like to draw the attent ionofthe

House to the fact that East C oast has be

com e a regularvict im of cyclones forthelasttwo decades at least. In th is C oast. where

afforestationwas there . had beentotallydepleted . So . through you. Iwould request

the Governm ent to have a greenbelt ofat

least one kilom etre on the shore line from

Ram eshwaram to Hald ia and th is greenbell

should be strengthened by a band forthe

sam e length .

1 hrs .

Ina cyclone . as youknow. the tidalforce

spo ils agricultura lland tota lly . and the farm

ers do not getcrops fortenyea rs ; thesalinityof the land increases and so . life becomesa

problem there .

S im ilarly the powersupply system usually breaks downwhencyclone is thereSo.

Irequest Governm ent that in th is cyclone

prone belt , instead of cables wh ich are

erected onpo les . it would be better— and I

th ink it would be perm anent solut ion—if

underground cables are la id throughout theregion.

Ithank the Prim e M inister who has

shownh is concernby vis it ing the cyclone

prone areas twice ; but . unfortunately. after

the Prim e M inister's vis it and the C hiefMin

are suffering . They are not getting drinkingwaterbecause of want of ra in. The geolo

gists have also m ade a survey ofAnantapur.They have sa id that the Anantapurdistrlot is

go ing to becom e a desert very shortly andunless the Governm ent takes a keeninterest to save the district from becom ing adesert it is bound to becom e a desert. To

save the district of Anantapurfrom booom

ing a desert. Irequest the C entralGovemm ent to C onstituteAnantapurD istrictbroughtProne Area Authority as was done infaisalm er. Rajasthan.

179 Discuss . under


[Sh . Basavapunna iah S ingam ]

so that the cyclone canbe diverted . Theycandilute the intens ity of the cyclone a lso .

Everyth ing m ay be im poss ible to do . but

afterresearch the scientists m ay find som e

way out how to m inim ise the intens ity of thecyclone.

Ina calam ity like this . norm a lallotm ent

of the funds is not sufficient . Inthese circum

stances . Ihave rightly observed that only inthe rural areas the sea coast people are

be ing affected by the cyclone. But there are

rich people living inthe cities like Bom bay .

Madras . C a lcutta andDelh i . The incom e taxassesses are there. So , Isuggest to the

Governm ent of India to levy surcharge particularly for cyclone . They can keep th is

am ount inreserve fund . Wheneverthere is a

cyclone. they can take th is amount and

im m ediatelycom e to therescueofthepeopleaffected . Noth ing is go ing to be affected now

and then. Particularly inm y constituency aswell as the sea coast of Andhra Pradesh .

every district was affected by the cyclone .

Youknow it very wellthat the cyclonewillbefollowed by heavy ra ins . Due to heavy ra ins .

there is flood inevery areas . More dam age

is being caused by the flood. part icularly inKrishna and Godavari Divis ions . delta ar

eas . wh ich are the greenery of India they arebeing affected by these floods . It is a cult iva

tion area for the last 100 years . But the

dra inage system was not attended to by theGovernm ent . 80 , the C entra l Governm entshould take specia l interest and see that the

dra inage system is repa ired and restored othe vulnerable pos ition.

Severa l friends have spokenabout them easures to be taken. Isuggest to the

Governm ent that the House C om m ittee m aybe deputed to vis it the affected areas . In

Orissa . Madras and Banga lore . where there

is recurrence of this m enace. they canstudyit and suggest to the Governm ent what arethe m easures to be takenup by theGovernm ent. It m ay be m ore appropriate particu

larly inthe easterncoast inAndhra Pradesh .

There is a proposa l pend ing with the

MAY 28 . 1990 out of cyclonicstorm 180

inBay of Bengaletc.

Governm ent of India that a Highway fromIchapuram to Toda should be constructed lt

is a motorable road . Wheneverthere is aca lam ity . it is difficult to approach thepeople

because of lack of com municat ions. If this

road is constructed . then there will beno

difficulty to approach the people incaseof

cris is . That proposa l is pending with the

Government of India ; and the Governmentof India has to take im m ediate steps to

sanct ionthis project and see that thisroadisconstructed.

Ia lso request that theGovernmentmayannounce im m ediate relief for the lamiers

which were badly hit by the cyclone. They

have to com m ence their agriculture inthe

m onth of June . wh ich is the next month.

Instead of wa iting to find out whetherthey

arewilfuldefaulters ornot . the previous loan

m ay bewrittenoff and the new loanmaybe

granted aga in. TheGovernm ent shouldoome

to rescue of the farm ers .

With thesewords . Ithank youforgiving

m e th is opportunity to speak .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Surcharge

onincom e tax was yournew po int.

SHRIP. MARSA REDDY (Adilabadlt

Mr. Deputy SpeakerIwould not remat the

po ints wh ich the hon. m em bers have ai

ready m entioned. but to two orthreepoints.

Iwish to invite the attentionof the Govern

m ent . One is that the yard - st ick ofgiving its

perfam ily has beenreduced toRs.

S ince the Prim e M inisterwas kind

enough to give Rs . 2 crores they are addingthat sum of Rs . to th is Rs .

and are say ing that is Rs .

The Governm ent of India shouldmain

ta in perm anent helipads in sam e places

That was ourexperience . Aha lipadwasnot

there inthe sea coast . Tha t is why a helicop

tercouldn’

t go faraway and drop the food

packets . So . Isuggest to theGovernmental

India to construct a perm anent helipad inthe

coastalarea so that it becom es easytohelp

the people incase of cris is .


Irespectfully subm it to you that theGovernm ent should not have any differen

timonbetweena personwho dies inDelhiand a personwho dies inPunjab. All these

people who have beenaffected by the cydone . ha ve lost theircrop. the irhouses and

they have actually lost everyth ing . They areal now inrelief cam ps and theirnum ber isabout s ix lakhs and odd . So . it is not as if we

are ask ing for lakhs and lakhs ; even if the

Governm ent gives properass istance onpar

with the otherpersons thenIthink the State

and the C entralGovernm entswouldbedo ingjustice . That is one po int Iwant to m ention.

S econdly . the hon. Prim e Ministerwas

plea s ed to say onthe l8th May that this is a

nationa lca lam ity and that it must be treatedas such . lwould invite attentionto the report

of the Seventh Finance C om m iss ionwh ich

"Where a ca lam ity is of a rare severitythe C entral Governm ent should ex

tend ass istance to the Stateconcerned

evenbeyond the schem es suggestedby the C om m iss ion.

”

Now. earlier it was the m arg inm oneyand advance loanof 5 percent thatwas onlybe ing g ivenand a sum ofRs . 240croreswas

yearly given. The Ninth Finance C om m is

s ionhad sa id that. notwithstanding th is . Rs .

86 crores should only be given. Thatwas the

figure arrived at forthe last tenyears wh ichwas be ing givenby the C entra lGovernm entto the State Governm ent . Th is is a strangewa y of deciding th ings because inthe years1979. 1980 and up to 1988 the C entral

Governm ent was giving. fora ll the ca lam i

ties like floods , droughts and everyth ing .

These years the Rs . crores but tender

gave only Rs . 900crcres upto 1989- 90. So

in that context. for floods the average that

they havegivena llthese tenyearswas f ixedat Rs . 86 cores . notwithstanding ornot tak

ing into cons idera t ionthe dem ands m ade bythe StateGovernm ents fortheca lam it ies . All

thesetenyears thehavebeengiving according to the recom m endationm ade by variousFinance C om m iss ion; but it is fantastic andit is not according to principles of natura l



justice . Nor is it according to the dem and

m ade by the Seventh F inance C om m iss ion.

AN HON. MEMBER: That recom m en

dationwas by a C ongressm an.

SHRIP . MARSA REDDY : Yes . the

recom m endation of the Seventh FinanceC om m iss ionis also by a C ongressm an. You

need not be very anxious about it .

So . Irequest that the recom m endationof the Seventh Finance C om m iss ionbe takeninto cons iderat ion.

My fourth po int is .what Shri Murli Deorahas already sa id . In1977 lwas a Ministerfor

Revenuewhencyclone cam e. Ihad beentoMaharashtra and m et the C hiefMinisterand

a lso several industria lists . Theywantedonlyexem ptionunderSectionGOG orother

‘

rele

vant sect ions of the Incom e- tax Act . Manyvoluntary organisat ions are there to give

clothes . utens ils and z inc sheets forhousing

The others ide wh ich Iwish to bring tothenotice if the C entra lGovernm ent is aboutthe Ra ilways and the h ighways . They havebeenbadly dam aged . It would cost aboutRs . crores to repa irthe nat iona lh igh

wayand the C entra lGovernm entwillhave to

provide the m oney. and also expedite the

repa irs . So also . about the Ra ilways . it isestim ated that da ily the Ra ilways are suffering a loss of Rs . 40 lakhs because the ironore is not be ing brought to Visakhapatnam

port as the em bankm ent of 30 to 40 k ilom etres has collapsed and fourbridges a lso

havebeendam aged . Therefore. theEastern

Ra ilway is not at a llable to runthe tra ins andfrom the southerns ide from Vijayawada upto Wa lta irthe tra ins services are disrupted .

Unless these ra ilways lines and theNationa lHighways are restored and for that a lso

m oney is g ivenby the C entra lGovernm entmovem ent of the traffic both the road and

ra il, and norm alcy cannot be restored . The

m ovem ent of the supply of rice a lso has

been disrupted . The C entral Governm entshould give money and help the StateGovernm ent inrestoring thecom munications on

a warfooting .

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[Sh . P. Marsa Reddy]

inGujarat and Maharashtra . During the last

cyclone. they had given crores worth of

m aterial. So . free arrangem ent of goods

through ra ilways orby planes m ust be m adeforthe donated art icles . Incom e - tax exem p

tionalso willdraw m ore funds wh ich willgo

a long way inhelping the affected people .

The hon. Minister has m ent ioned that

he has arranged tonnes of phos

phate fert ilisers . We are thankfulto h im . But

the Ministerhas not showninh is note aboutthe land dam aged . Twenty thousand hectares of land had becom e saline . The Relief

C om m iss ioner has requested the C entra lGovernm ent to provide gypsum . apart from

phsophate fert iliser, to cure sa linity . The

C entra lGovernm ent m ust be provide gypsum ina largerway.

The otherpo int wh ich the hon. Minister

has not shown is that hectares of

gardenland hadbeendam aged . Th irty- three

thousand hectares of m ango gardens nine

thousand hectares of banana land. and s ix

thousand hectares of lim e gardenwh ich are

uninsured crops . Norm a lly the landholderslease them to the poorpeople. These poor

people have suffered. If there is any provi

s ionunderthe Genera lInsurance Act. thenwe canhelp those poorpeople .

Forty - two crores of rupees worth of

dam age had beencaused to the irrigationcanals . One - th ird of the cost must be borne

by the C entralGovernm ent and two - thirds

must be borne by the State Governm ent .

The C entralGovernm ent should com e forward to bearthe one- third cost .

Lastly. there is an acute shortage of

power. We have got two therm a l stat ions .

ForKottagudem therm a lstation, coa la lloca

tionis lakh tonnes and forV ijayawada . it

is lakh tonnes . Th is is the allocated

supply by the C entra l Governm ent . Therequirem ent forfull generation inregard toKottagudem therm a l stationis lakh ton

nes and forVijayawada it is lakh tonnes .

Therefore , there is a shortfall of about

lakh tonnes . So . specia larrangementsshould

be m ade to provide th is from S ingareni Col

Iieries orTa lcher inOrissa . My hon. friend

Mr. C houdhary asked the C entralGovemm ent to provide th is . The C entralGovem

m ent m ust im m ed iately supply coalso thatthe powershortage caused due to this cy

clone could be to som e extent redeemed.

DR. VISWANATHAM (Srikakulam jzllr.Deputy - Speaker S ir. Iwill take only a few

m inutes .

Inaddition. the farm ers . especially the

sm all and m arg ina l farm ers are affected.

Floods and cyclones go together. I-Iere.

prevention is better thancure . Unless youhave a m easure which links a ll the rivers.

especially inthe cyclone prone area. even

God cannot help it . Suppose cycloneaffects

one area . the otherarea cantake the flood

waterand reduce the havoc. Inthis regard.

ourscientists haveg ivenus theirideasmuch

earlier. But noth ing has beendone so far. l

hope the present Governm ent will look into

the m atterand act very quick ly . Thepresent

Governm ent has g ivenus tounderstandthat

village developm ent will be their priority.

About fifty percent Of the revenue is being

allotted.Now it is anOpportunity forthem to

develop Andhra Pradesh area . Agriw lture

and em ploym ent. village developm ent. and

reconstruction Of collapsed houses inthe

villages . all these canbe takenafresh . In

stead Of having sm allham lets onthe riveror

sea shore. youcanm ake large clusterof

houses atcentrally located places . Theycan

be viable colonies with 500 orm ore lo oses

where everyth ing can be provided easly

especially roads and otherfacility systems.

There youcanconstruct three- tierhouses

oncolum ns wh ich canstand both the floods

and the tidalwaves . Suppose . youhavetwo

to three t ier system . In ca se of cyclone.

people need not go to faraway villages but

they cans im ply go from one t ierto theother

tierand save their lives . If these m easures

are takenona warfooting and with innova

tive new m ethods . Ithink . repeated spend'

ing of non-

productive expenditure canbe

m inim ised .

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[Sh . Dasa i C howdhary]

should necessarily be enforced and com

pensationprovided to the cyclone affected

people forthedam agecausedto theircrops .

With these words . Ithank you.


(Mursh idabad ) : Mr. Deputy Speaker.r S ir.a lm ost allthe po ints and aspects have been

dealt with but one po int rem a ins to be ccv

ered as yet . Floods ordraught and cyclonesare a regularand recurrent phenomenonof

ourcountry . The relief m anual is an out

dated one . There are inadequate resourcesava ilable inourarea to m eet the eventualityof provid ing prom pt and tim ely relief. Iwould

like to request the hon. Minister to bringabout am endm ents inthe relief m anual so

that adequate. instantaneous relief and

ass istance canbe expended to the flood.

draught and cyclone h it people.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Minis

ter. S ir. the tim e of the House . canbe ex

tended untilyouconclude yourspeech .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: One po int

wh ich Iwould like to m ake is that the debate

has beenquite po inted. Many good po intshave beenm ade . Ithink youm ayplease look

into the suggestionswhich have beenm adeand act appropriately.

Transla tion]

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THEDEPARTMENT OF AGRIC ULTURE ANDC C -OPERATION IN THE MINISTRY OFAGRIC ULTURE (SHRINITISH KUMAR) :Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. Iwillconclude myspeech in just 15 m inutes . Iwould. at the

outset, like to thank . onbehalfof theGovemm ent allthe hon. Mem bers who participated

in th is debate . The hea lth iest part of the

debate was the constructive suggestions

were rendered by the hon. Mem bers inthishourof nationalcalam ity ris ing above their

party politics to a hum anitarianplatform . I

had givena deta iled descriptionof the loss

MAY 28 .1990 out of cyclonic stom

inBay of Bengal etc

and dam ages caused due to the l

while m ak ing a statem ent onbeha l

Governm ent inth is House . The hor

bers who part icipated intoday’

s deb'

did not m ate any m entionof the

ment concea ling the deta ils of the rcaused . The Housewas inform ed at

deta ils of devastations as received

C entralgovernm ent . So faras relie'

ures inth is hourm isery are concerrC entral Governm ent has very ap

progress ively provided the ass istanhon. Prim e Ministervis ited the are;

first on12th May and thenonl gth . H

anaeria l survey as also m et the a

people inorder to get acqua intedm isery by vis it ing the area by road .

C erta in lssues have been ra

hon. m em bers . The Prim e Minister

severaldirections afterreturning fror

Those direct ions are being followi

hon. m em bers have ra ised a dis

besides those instruct ions . Most of it

to relief. Iam not referring to per

solution infact no m em berhas so;

anyth ing new wh ich is not coverer

directions g ivenby thePrim eMinistethe questionof declaring it a nationafly a s im ilardem and was m ade in

Pradesh . The sam e dem andwas a ls

whena statem entwas m ade inthe I

this regard . Th is dem and has bee

able today a lso . The Governm ent isering it seriously . The people livingregionand theStateGovernm ent ha\the hon. Prim e Ministerto cons ide

nationa l calam ity Mr. Deputy Spea

youare aware that the Ninth Finanr

m iss ionm ade certa insuggest ions :

om mendations and on the bas is r

suggestions a calam ity relief fundtablished in25 States . It was form s

fately in every State having 75 r;contribut ionof the C entre and 25

contribut ionof the State concerner

past whenever there occurred a 1

there used to be great dem and for

help and cons idering th is fact a r

relieffundhasbeenestablished inth iAs pertheNinth Finance C om m iss ieof Rs . 86 crores has beenearm a


Pradesh . The tota l amount of relief

for25 States is Rs . 804 crores . WhenPrim e Ministerpa id h is vis it to that State

he first tim e he announced that forthe

1990- 91 Rs . 86 crores have beenkeptme ca lam ity Relief Fund of Andhra

h . The C entra lGovernm ent have to64 crores and Rs . 501 lakh infour

instalments . but keeping inview

i fact of the storm half the amount of Rs .

“a cres and Rs . 50 lakh that is Rs . 32

w as and Rs . 50Id ths has beenreleased .

“ th is a m ount is spent thenext insta llm ent

l ould be provided by the C entre. It has not

come to surface fully otherwise innorm alawm stances only wage and m eans ad

vance would have beengiven. Iwant to .say

someth ing regarding Bihar. Inthe wake of

hai storm at that State the Prim e Minister

wished the a rea and gave anassurance that

the neces sary relief would be provided to

hem . A centra l team went to the State of

Bharon tourand onthe bas is of its report

Rs . 54 lakhs was released as wage and

means advance. If the BiharGovernmentneed furtherass istance afterspending this

amount thanadditionalass istancewould bereleased outofca lam ityrelief fundof C entral

Governm ent.

SHRIK.S . RAO : Mr. Deputy Speaker.had asked all the Mem bers not to repeat

what the otherMembers have sa id. Youare

repeat ing the sam e th ing which you have

told inyourstatem ent. We want som eth ingm ore to be told now.

[Transla tion]

SHRINITISH KUMAR: l am com ing to

that point. The C entra lGovernm ent took them attervery seriously and released the necessary am ount . Nowthe questionis this thatthe Ninth Finance C om m iss ionhas statedtha t the Governm ent cancons iderthe m atterif the sufferings are ona large scale and

it should do that . The PrincipalSecretary to

the Prim e Ministerconvened a meeting on

2’

41h May inwhich the opinionof the con

cerneddepartm entswere sought. Theywere

Arrangem ents to provide seeds arealso

be ing m ade . TheNationalSeed C orporation

andothersuch agencieswho supply author

ised seeds have been asked about theava ilability of the seeds and to provide the

variety of seed as per the ir requirem ent .Recently has been sa id that ass istance

out ot cyclonic storm 190

r‘

nBay ol Bengal etc.

consulted and the Std eGovernm ent’

sepin

ion is being sought regarding the require

m ents of Andhra Pradesh . Whateverstandis takeninthe case of Andhra Pradesh . the

sam e will hold good incase of otherstates

also . As per the recom mendations of the

ninth finance C om m iss ion. As such . discus

s ions areunderway regarding the s ituat ionsunderwh ich nat ional ca lam ity canbe de

clared . It is not that government want to

ignore itbut from rpocedurepo intofview it is

necessary. A deta iled m emorandum from

the State Government in th is regard has

beenca lled for. Iwould like to say that the

State Governm ent . people living inthat re

gion and the hon. m em bers of the House

have also m adea dem and. butno m emoran

dum inthis regard has beenreceived from

the StateGovernment so far. Mem orandumis also necesssary forth is . The centre ca n

take act iononthat only. Ranga Saheb. you

need not worry inthis regard . It is no use to

m ake any announcem ent. a serious initia

tive is underway in th is respect . As such

there is no reasontoworry . The second thingthat Iwish to say Is th is that theGovernm enthas m ade a provios ionunderHUDC O insur

ance inthe event of loss to the houses inthe

event of outbreak of fire but not inthe wakeof flood orcyclone. C onsequently it is not

poss ibleto get anykindof im m ed iate benefitoutol itbutdiscuss ions regarding thecourses

of actionto be adopted inthe wake of such

a s ituationare-underway . The financial insti

tut ions like HUDC O . comm ercial banks or

Hous ing banks have beenadvised to grant

b ans onliberal term forthe repa irof dam

agedhouses andconstruct ionofnewhouses .

Thecha irmanofHUDC O hasgonetoHydera

bad to discuss the issue with the State

Governm ent. Instructions to build perm anent houses inplaceoftem porary ones havebeen g iven and the financial institutions

should extend ass istance inthis regard .

MAY 28 .1990

Rule 193 Situationarising

[Sh . Nitish Kum ar]

should be givenby the government forhorticulture and contingency plan. Th e C entral

Governm ent is prepared to formulate horticulture andcontengency. Itwants to extend

help to them underthis lay. The State Gov

ernm ents have beenasked to prepare contingency plans and the C entralGovernm entwould m ake allposs ible effort to im plem entthe sam e and th is has beencom municated

to them .

The hon. m em bers had also m entionedabout the procurem ent . They have asked

that the dam aged paddy and rice should be

purchased on concess ional rates . Eightycentres have beenopened forthis purpose

and the purchase is being m ade . As perthe

latest inform ation received by m e before

com ing to the House. 461 1 M.Tonnes of

paddy and7894M .Tonnes of rice havebeen

purchased tilldate. Rao sahab will say that

this is less andwe alsodo adm it that it is less .

The officers of our departm ent are conti

nouslymonitoring it andarem akingefforts to

create a hea lthy s ituation. Instruct ions to

m ake the purchases without any delay onthe basis of the rela tions has beeng iven.

The Governm ent is alert about it .

Many m em bers have sa idregarding thedam ages to roads and Ra ilway tracks . In

that context Iwould like to say that the

disruptioncaused to the trafficonaccount of

the dam age to ra ilway tracks between

Sam alkot and Vishakapatnam and youare

also aware that the down line has beenrepa ired . Repa irof up linewillbe com pletedby 5th June . The track betweenGollprolu

and Ravitam pattusectionis expected to be

set inorderby 15th ofJune . Many m em bershave ra ised the questions and Ialso want tosay thatwhateverloss to electricity has beencaused there. efforts are onto set it right .

Loss inthe productionof electricity that hasoccurred due to short supply of coa l intherm a lplants is being set right as 5 to 6 rakes ofcoal is being supplied from western C oa lfields instead of 2 to 3 rakes being suppliedearlier. The quantity of coa l supply from

S ingareni C o lliery Ltd was 25727 M . tonnes


on18thMay . ltwas beenincreased t0 42042M.Tonnes by 21stMay and efforts are beingm ade to m a inta inthis pace with a view to

ensure that powergenerationis not affected

or least affected. The instruct ions that had

beenissued by thePrim eMinisterinrespect

of telephones have beencom plied with the

and approxim ately 93% telephones have

beenset right . Out of the Nationalh ighwaysthatweredam aged . trafficonNat iona lHigh

wayNo . 5 has beenrestored fully and rehabilitationwork onNat ionalHighway No . 43 .

wh ich was partia lly effected is infull swingand a sum of Rs . 50 lakh has beenreleasedforits restoration.

Many hon. m em bers have expressed

concernabout the loans hy the banks . Iwant

to inform theHouse that hon. Prim eMinister

has issued directions and incom pliance of

those directions . R. B . l has issued instruo

tions to all banks ;

Recovery should be suspended.

2 . The loans should be converted .

3. Re- scheduling m ay be done .

Banks willwork according to these in

struct ions and to review the progress of

im plem entationof these schem es . regular

m eetings of the Banking C onsultative C om

m ittee at State and district levelwillbe held .

Th is work willbe carried out underthe guid

ance of lead banks . Inth is regard. whatever

direct ions have been issued by the Prim e

Ministersha llbe strictly enforced . One hon.

Mem berm entioned about drinking water I

want to inform that efforts are being m ade toimprove it and as perthe ava ilable inform a

tion739 water supply system s have beendam aged and th is includes 87 watersupplyschem es through pipes . To restore water

supply im m ediately StateGovernm ent havereleased Rs . 15 crores . 34 tankers have

beenput intoOperationinthe affected areasto supply water. In addition to th is bullodtcarts are also be ing used forthe supply of

water. To assess the extent of loss to water

supply system and the des ired relief to the

State Governm ent the Addit iona lSecretary

out of cyclonic s torm 192 is:

Discuss . under


[Sh . Nitish Kum ar]

tions have com e up regarding a perm anent

solutionto th is problem and m any of themareconstructive . Ionce aga inappreciate the

spirit with wh ich the hon. Mem bers have

g iven these ( interruptions) .

According to the inform at ionava ilable withus . Iwould like to say that we are a llfeeling

distresed and express our sympathy forallthe cyclone affected people. whethertheyare inAndhra Pradesh . Tam ilNadu. Orissa .

Pondicherry orany otherpart of the coutnry.

The spiritwithwhich the hon. Mem bers took

part inthis discuss ionand the work beingdone by th is Governm ent and others . to

provide relief and ass istance to the cycloneaffected areas . despiteourlim ited resources .

is pra ise worthy . We s incerely hope tahtthose affected by th is grave ca lam ity wouldbe rehabi litated . as soon as poss ible and

that they would start their life a new. Withthese words . Ithank you and

Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Would yourDepartm ent look into the long - term m eas

ures?

Transla tion]

SHRINITISHKUMAR: Regarding longterm m easures . l have already sa id that the

Government has takennote of the suggestions givenby the hon. Mem bers andwe aredefinitely go ing to take concrete and aflao

tive m easures .

SHRIK .S . RAO : S ir. irrespective of the

party affiliations . the entire peopleofAndhra

Pradesh have felt extrem ely happywhenthehon. Prim eMinisterhad vis ited the State on

f 1th and a lso on 19th . They have pinned

great hopeswhenhe m entioned that hewas

go ing to treat th is as a nationalca lam ity anddeclare it the m om ent he reaches Delh i . afterconsult ing the officia ls . Now. the ent ire de

script ion of the reply of the hon. Minister

MAY 28 .1990 out ofcyclonic storm 196

indicates a totaldilutionof thestatemntofthe

Prim eMinisterinregardto h is prom ise about

the national ca lam ity . He did not say even

one word that the Governm ent is go ing todeclare it as a nat ional ca lam ity ina day ortwo or after 10 or 15 days . We are onlyinterested inthe im plem entat ionof the state

m ent . So . we hum bly request the Governm ent once aga innot to m ake it diluted and

request them to see that it is im plem ented .

Trans la tion]

SHRIBH. VIJAYAKUMAR RAJU : Theentire dra inage system s inthree deltas are

com pletely collapsed due to the recent cy

clone . It is happening every year. Evenfor

every ra in. the dra inage is closed . Everyth ing is onrecord.

What Iam request ing is that the hon.

Ministerm ay please take necessary stepsas a long

- term act ionto repa irthedra ins and

other things . Otherwise . they are no t in a

pos itionto dra inout .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER:Actionhas tobe takenby the StateGovernm ent a lso . It is

a longterm m easure .

SHRINITISH KUMAR: Ido not agreewith ShriRao ; as here there is no questionofany dilutionthe P.M. s statem ent . The proc

ess oftranslating into actiona llta htwhatever

the Hon.

’

Prim e Ministerhas sa id there. has

already begun. On the 24th the Principa l

Secretary covered a m eeting of the officialsconcernedwith it . More lip servicewould not

serve any purpose as faras providing relief

is concerned. rather. arrangem ents have to

be m ade in a com prehens ive m anner to

m ake ava ilable the relief m ateria l to the

affected people. OurGovernm ent believesinwork and not inwords . Whenever. a declaration is m ade by this Governm ent . theentire necessary ground work is done bythem well inadvance . Ihave already sa idthat the Principa lSecretary had convened am eeting inth is regard.

Discuss . under


SHRIEH. VIJAYAKUMARRAJU : Yes .

it is both the C entral Governm ent and theStateGovernm entwh ich should take m easures . We are also ready to give betterm enttaxes .

SHRIDASAIC HOWDHARY (Rosera ) :Mr. DeputySpeaker. S ir. regarding the

'Relief

C ode Ihave just stated that whenthe hon.

Ministerwas a Mem berof the BiharLeg is lative As sem bly. he used to create uproarious

scenes wheneverthe State was affected byfloods and heused to say that it was neces

sary to m ake changes inthe'Relief C ode

'. I

would like to know whetherevennow. the

hon. Minister feel the need to bring aboutchanges inthe

'Relief C ode

'ornot?

SHRINITISH KUMAR: Mr. DeputySpeaker. S ir. the hon. Mem berhas asked aquest ionof a persona l nature . The factual

pos itionis that the Relief C odes are evolved

by the State Governm ents them selves andthe respons ibility of providing relief rests

with the StateGovernm ents . WhenIused tospeak inthe B ihar Leg is lative Assem bly. lconcentrated on the need of effect ingchanges inthe Relief C ode of the State and

eventoday. Ifeelthat there is need to m ake

amendm ents intheRelief C ode to update it .

[Engfish]SRI HAMENDRA SINGH BANERA

(Bh ilwara ) : Relief C ode was m ade duringthe Brit ish tim e?Are yougo ing to change or

am end the code ornot?

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Do not ex

pect h im to g ive im m ediate reply on th is

pos ition.

SHRIBALGOPAL MISHRA: Will the

Ministercons iderchanging theRelief C ode?

Will the Governm ent a lso include ha ilstormas one of thenaturalca lam it ies? At present.

ha ilstorm is not cons idered as natural ca

lam ity . Ha ilstorm is not less harm ful than

flood. cyclone ordrought .

JYAISTHA 7. 1912 (SAKA) out of cyclonic storm 198


Transla tion]

SHRI NITISH KUMAR: Mr. DeputySpeaker. S ir. as l have already sa id ReliefCode is a subject concerning the State

Governm ent and it is upto the StateGovernm ent toupdate it . Itwas la iddownyears backand it is necessary to m ake changes in it

from tim e to tim e so as to keep it uptodate .

SHRI NITISH KUMAR: Mr. DeputySpeaker. S ir. this is a very com prehens ivequestionand itdoesnotconcernthis departm ent a lone . It is a quest ion involving allthedepartm ents . Therefore. at the m om ent . it

would not be poss ible form e to say anyth inginthis regard .

PROF . N.G . RANGA:The hon. Mem berMr. Rajuof the ruling Party aswellas severa lotherfriends have referred to the dam age

done to thedra inagework . cana ls andbunds .

If money is not im m ediately a va ilable withthe Governm ent. would they be willing tora ise a loan. hand itoverto the loca lGovernm ent and see that the dra inage works are

takenup?

And the other suggestions regard to

incom e- tax relaxationand so on. Ihope m yhon. friendwouldnotedownandconvey thesuggestiqws to the hon. Finance Minister.

SHRIISHWAR C HAUDHARY (Gaya ) :Mr. Deputy Speaker. S ir. Ididn

't get an

opportunity to speak . Ihave two suggestions

to m ake inth is regard. The hon. Ministerhas

referred to both instant and long term m eas

ures . About the instant m easures . he has

sa id that relief work is go ing on it its full

swing . but he did not elaborate onlong term

m easures although big cana ls (dra inage

system ) and equipm ents have beendamaged. Does the hon. Minister propose to

work onany long term plan? If so . please tell

us about the amount proposed to be a llo

cated for the purpose. as it is a nat ional

calam ity .

199 Discuss . under MAY 28 .1990 out of cyclonic storm

Rule 193 S i tua tionarising

[Transla tion]

SHRINITISH KUMAR:With referenceto whatever hon. Prof . Ranga has sa id. I

would like to subm it that so faras the allocationof m oney is concerned.we have a lready

g ivento the state. a lum psum amount ofRs .

crores as C entralAss istance . As soon

as it is spent. anotherinsta lm ent of Rs .

crores would be m ade ava ilable to the State

Governm ent and all your suggest ions re

garding otherm atters . the views that have

beenexpressed here and otherrelated issues as wellas the creative suggest ions will

be sent to the State Governm ent.

Transla tion]

SHRIJ . C HOKKA RAO : Youshould at

inBay of Benga l e tc.

least write off the loans of sm a ll fa

weaver. and the fisherm en. What str

youpropose to take to alleviate their

ings?

SHRINITISH KUMAR: l have a

dwelt onthese th ings inm y speech .

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No

House stands adjourned to reass

tom orrow at 1 1 .00AM .

1 hrs .

The Lok Sabha thenadjourned till Eof the C lock onTuesday. May 29. 1

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