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There is much controversy over which text is the best to use when translating the Bible. Increasingly, recent information favors the textus receptus as the preferred Bible ground text, rather than the critical text which has been popularized over the last 150 years. Here is a brief outline of some of the facts.

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  • 1.Bible Translation Text Issues R. D. Patton Missionary to Suriname 8/3/2013 Text Issues 1

2. Basic fundamentals for text choice for fundamentalists The fundamentals of the faith Separation from apostasy Separation for worldliness 8/3/2013 2 3. Two basic ground texts available Two philosophies Two groups One is separated from apostacy One is associated with apostacy Developed in a time accepting German rationalism & evolution 8/3/2013 3 4. Two basic questions: Is the Bible inspired by God? Liberals no Fundamentalists yes Is the Bible preserved throughout history of the church? Liberals no Fundamentalists some yes, but some no 8/3/2013 4 5. In terms of inspiration Is it just the ideas liberals and many fundamentalists Or are the actual words inspired (verbal plenary inspiration)? Fundamentalists, but not all 8/3/2013 5 6. What does the Bible say about extent to words being true? Exodus 20:1.And God spake all these words, saying,... Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 8/3/2013 6 7. What does the Bible say about extent to words being true? Luke 21:33. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. I Thessalonians 4:8.Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 8/3/2013 7 8. Jesus Himself states that the jot and tittle are important: Mt. 5:[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. This is not merely a preservation of ideas, but the actual words of scripture. 8/3/2013 8 9. An eclectic text where many words are missing cannot meet the requirements of every word Although no doctrine is completely missing, many doctrines are watered-down, especially concerning the deity of Christ. In the New International Version, for example, there are 45 versus missing, and 147 verses have significant portions of the verses missing.1. 1.Waite, D.A. Defending the King James Bible. Bibles for Today. 1992 8/3/2013 9 10. Does the Bible say anything about preservation? Matthew 5:18.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 24:[35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 8/3/2013 10 11. The Bible & preservation I Peter 1:23. Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. [24] For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: [25] But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. 8/3/2013 11 12. The Bible & preservation Psalm 119:[89] For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven... [111] Thy testimonies have I taken as an heritage forever: for they are the rejoicing of my heart... [152] Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them forever. 8/3/2013 12 13. The Bible & Preservation Psalm 12:[6] The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.[7] Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. There is gender dissonance, but the antecedent still goes to words 8/3/2013 13 14. How many Bibles stick with the preserved text Critical text or eclectic text: 134 complete translations and nearly 300 New Testaments Textus receptus & masoretic text: 1 the KJV Bible. Some of the New KJV is from the text as well, but there are some eclectic changes and 100,000 footnotes that are mostly eclectic 8/3/2013 14 15. Westcott & Hort revised the TR text D. A. Waite identified 9970 different changes in the words! 2800 words are missing from the TR text The total change is approximately 7% of the text 8/3/2013 15 16. Three basic positions on inspiration The TR/Masoretic text is inspired (and preserved) by God The eclectic text is to be preferred though no true final text is available The KJV was re-inspired (with 54 men translating) and actually can correct the Greek text I would reject this totally 8/3/2013 16 17. Basic positions on preservation 1. There is no verbal preservation in any given text or translation. This is a typical liberal position 2. The text is preserved, but you must study all the texts to find it. Who can find all the texts? Many are in restricted countries, or perhaps buried yet 8/3/2013 Les 1 Santa Jejej 17 18. Basic positions on preservation 3. God re-inspired the English text. This is the KJO position which I reject 4. God has preserved the original inspired writings, which are now available in a given Hebrew and Greek text. This is the position I take and that God has providentially preserved the texts 8/3/2013 18 19. The Holy Spirit will guide John 16:[13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come John 17:[17] Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth;. 8/3/2013 19 20. God uses believing churches to preserve his Word. Timothy 3:[15] But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 8/3/2013 20 21. The OT scribes took great care to copy accurately Special skins and ink The scribe must read out loud each word before writing it They counted the letters, and which letter was in the midst Any copy with sigificant errors was destroyed 8/3/2013 21 22. There were those who deliberately changed the Word . II Thessalonians 2:[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 8/3/2013 22 23. Falsifying Pauls letters People were circulating false letters under the name of Paul. Therefore he would personally sign his letters to show that they were genuine. II Thessalonians 3:[17] The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write. 8/3/2013 23 24. The Bible warned about false teachers Peter, Paul, John and Jude all warned about false teachers. God gave the responsibility to the believing churches to sift out false teaching, as the church was the pillar and foundation of the truth. 8/3/2013 24 25. Older = better??? Thus being older was no guarantee of purity, since there were false teachers and also false books dating back to the time of the apostles themselves. Plus the best texts were used many times until they were tattered and must be replaced. The bad texts were ignored 8/3/2013 25 26. The argument from age does not support the critical text The critical or eclectic text is derived primarily from Vaticanus & Sinaiticus, written about 350 AD We have received text translations long before that about 150 AD Peshitta (Syrian) Itala The Gothic translation is received form, and written in 350 AD 8/3/2013 26 27. The Alexandrian school from area of Alexandrian texts Alexandria was a center of Greek learning, and had a large Jewish population. Both Gnosticism and Platonism were prevalent. The Chatechical school was founded by Pantaenus, who was a gnostic 8/3/2013 27 28. Alexandrian school The church father Clement became its head, who was also a gnostic.1 In 232A.D., Origen became the head. He believed in infant baptism, Arianism, the veneration of Mary, and allegorical interpretation. 8/3/2013 28 29. Alexandrian school Origen Origen was a Universalist who believe that even demons would be saved. He felt that the Scriptures were of little use without allegorical interpretation. Eusebius followed, and Constantine ordered 50 Bibles to be made. Possibly Vaticanus & Sinaiticus were among them 8/3/2013 29 30. 1800 years the church used the traditional text If you believe in divine preservation through the churches, then you either believe that the traditional text is the correct one, or that God allowed the text to disappear for 18 centuries, and to be replaced by ones which were associated with apostates 8/3/2013 30 31. The Catholic church used the Vulgate This was a translation by Jerome into Latin which was used for 1000 years The Greek Orthodox used basically the traditional text When Erasmus translated from the Greek, he knew about the Vaticanus, but rejected it 8/3/2013 31 32. John Wycliffe Translated from the Vulgate into English He was attacked by the Catholic church, but had several very influential friends who kept him from capture. He taught the Lollards, and opposed the Catholic doctrine of transsubstantiation 8/3/2013 32 33. John Wycliffe He died of a stroke and was buried His works were condemned by the Catholic church and burned About 40 years later, his body was exhumed, and the bones burnt and thrown into the River Swift 8/3/2013 33 34. William Tyndale Brilliant in many languages Began translating directly from the Greek and Hebrew into English Excellent translations, which are the basis for further translations till the KJV Completed the New Testament and a good part of the O.T. 8/3/2013 34 35. William Tyndale His books were burned in England. A friend sold his books to the Bishop who burned them, but the price the Bishop paid allowed them to print many times that number. He was eventually betrayed by a man he helped imprisoned for months, and then burned at the stake 8/3/2013 35 36. William Tyndale His last prayer: Lord, open the King of Englands eyes. One year later, they printed the Matthew Bible, which was largely Tyndales work. Th

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