why do models fail? problems, problems …

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ingsley Dunham Centre eyworth ottingham NG12 5GG el 0115 936 3100 NERC All rights reserved Why do models fail? Problems, problems John Rees BGS Head of Policy and Science Co- ordination Andrew Hughes BGS Groundwater Modeller and NMPI Co-organiser

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Why do models fail? Problems, problems …. John Rees BGS Head of Policy and Science Co-ordination Andrew Hughes BGS Groundwater Modeller and NMPI Co-organiser. Ideal vs reality. Generic issues as seen from a government institute - the British Geological Survey. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Kingsley Dunham CentreKeyworthNottingham NG12 5GGTel 0115 936 3100

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Why do models fail?Problems, problems …

John ReesBGS Head of Policy and Science Co-ordination

Andrew HughesBGS Groundwater Modeller

and NMPI Co-organiser

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Ideal vs reality

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Generic issues as seen from a government

institute - the British Geological Survey

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BGS and numerical modelling

Groundwater - Model Developer and user Coastal change - Poacher and gamekeeperContamination - often the ‘honest broker’

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Typical reasons for failure

• Lack of consistency of approach

• Turnover and education of staff in client organisations

• Language between user and modellers, and between modellers

• Appropriate and sufficient data

• Trust between parties

• Unrealistic expectations

• Honesty about the limitations of models

• Cost of taking-up new developments

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\Policy makers

\Resource Managers

\Modellers

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Key organisations

• Universities

• Consultants

• Government Institutes

• Regulators

• Utilities

• Government Ministries

• Pan-governmental

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Regulator issues

• Limited number of staff that have modelling skills

• Accessibility of models is often poor – they are often not easy to run

• The maintenance and updating of models has a high cost (the leaky roof syndrome)

• Inadequate data to support development or understanding

• Expectations are often not met

• Stakeholders are not adequately consulted

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Resource manager issues

• Common uncertainty about the specification and scale of model required

• Lack of clarity about the needs of regulators

• Find that models have too much uncertainty for detailed use

• Inadequate timely stakeholder involvement

• Find that models are not as flexible as managers would like

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Model developer issues

• Models are driven by policy and not the other way round e.g. Habitats Directive

• Few examples of models being trusted by all parties

• Stakeholders are recognised as important, but involvement is very variable

• Personalities are important in defining how much stakeholders interact

• Managing expectations is very important

• Those consultants who deliver to spec and on time may not be the best to drive modelling forwards

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Broader implications

• Lack of efficiency associated with development encourages adoption or tweaking of older ‘industry standard’ models instead of adoption of newer models.

• Drive to conservatism encourages usage of ‘tried-and-tested’ consultants who focus on delivery, rather than more innovative scientists who will introduce new concepts and stretching the modelling.

• Acceptance of limitations (e.g. empirical constants, black-boxes) instead of driving better modelling.

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Towards solutions• Need common understanding before attempting to

formulate solutions

- Climate change models are not taken up by some national governments that do not accept reality!

• Language – differs markedly between disciplines

• Definition of problem type, organisations involved and geographic extent

• Problem is potentially huge, so need boundaries

• Guidelines are needed

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Summary

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Questions ?