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Interview: with John Malanca and Kristin Rosenqvist

John Malanca: 00:08 Welcome, everyone. This is John Malanca with The Sacred Plant. I have a special guest with us today. She's been part of our community actually since day one of our launch in 2017. Our guest today is Kristin Rosenqvist from Reno, Nevada.

John Malanca: 00:24 She has a great story to share. Kristin, let me bring you on

so you can share your side of the story, and what you've gone through, and how you found us and where you are today.

Kristin R.: 00:38 Well, I was first diagnosed with cancer in 2005 with invasive

ductal carcinoma, a type of breast cancer. I went went through the allopathic model of neoadjuvant chemotherapy, and surgery and then radiation. I went 11 years just working on my health and trying to make sure that I didn't get a recurrence of the cancer. What I actually found was that the chemo itself had weakened me so much. I ended up with fibromyalgia and all kinds of other autoimmune conditions. I've been struggling with my health ever since.

Kristin R.: 01:23 In that search for answers, somehow The Sacred Plant

came into my inbox and I signed up for the webinar. I had never used cannabis before, not even as a teenager. I was completely open to it. You guys just touched my heart and I just knew that if anything ever happened to me, that if I did get a recurrence that this was the path I would take, I knew it was my path.

Kristin R.: 01:49 Evidently, that was in the beginning of June 2017. A week

or two later is when I had my mammogram and they told me on July 3rd after we got the biopsy results back that I had cancer again in the opposite breast. It was the same kind of cancer. It was identical HER2 neu negative, ERPR positive, et cetera, except that it was much smaller this time around. It was only .5 centimeters. I was so weak from being sick all these years that I knew that if I went through cancer and radiation again that it would take away whatever was left of my brain, which had already taken a big hit with chemo. I

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just knew I didn't want to go through that again. Of course, I had knowledge of The Sacred Plant behind me. That's what started me.

Kristin R.: 02:41 I'd always had a clean diet. I was eating turmeric every day.

I was doing lots of fruits and vegetables, all those foods to keep breast cancer away. Yet, I still got it back. I knew I needed a big gun, that diet wasn't going to do it alone. As soon as I was diagnosed I was on the phone with my GP, my family doctor. The next day I was in his office and he wrote me a script. I drove to Carson City and I got my license, it was just as fast as I could. Within three or four days I had cannabis in my hand.

Kristin R.: 03:14 I had started with taking RSO. I was using a slightly different

model, not micro-dosing. I was using a higher dosage. It's been quite a journey. The end result was that in June of 2018 I had a completely clean thermogram that shows absolutely no sign of cancer. I've had lots of blood work done and all my blood work is normal, everything looks good. As far as I know, at this point, I'm cancer free. Now it's been six months with confirmed. I've had three sets of thermograms in the meantime to make sure everything okay. Now I'm just continuing to work on my health. I'm doing everything I did to cure cancer except that because of financial reasons I had to cut way back on my dosages, but I'm still doing everything I did before. I didn't want to leave anything out that I thought was really helping me.

Kristin R.: 04:12 Now I'm looking to get to the underlying reason for my

fibromyalgia, and autoimmune conditions, see if I can get those completely healed too. But the cannabis is really working in that area. I know that if I lower my dosage my autoimmune symptoms come back and if I raise the dosage to where I'm comfortable, then the autoimmune symptoms are actually going away as well. It's not just helping the cancer, it's cured scars, huge scars that I had that went away, that have healed. All of my autoimmune, and I have multiple autoimmune conditions, have all been improved.

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Cannabis has been pretty much a miracle for me. Kristin R.: 04:51 But it's also been part of a bigger program where I have an

absolutely pristine diet. I live alone and I can control what comes and goes in my house and what gets prepared here. I'm taking plenty of supplements that are very high quality, good sourced. I even have worked a lot on how I take the supplement so that they don't cancel each other out and so I get the most absorbency.

Kristin R.: 05:23 I've also worked on a lot of spiritual issues and emotional

issues with ESP, meditation. I've done a lot of spiritual work as well. I think that cannabis, like I said, was my big gun that I was putting my most faith in in a sense, I ended up putting a whole lot more faith in the end in faith itself, that's what I learned was one of the biggest parts of my healing.

John Malanca: 05:53 I always incorporate giving it a one, two, three punch and

that's what you've done, not including just using cannabis alone, and diet, prayer. I know you do tapping, which I'm a fan of, meditation. You were healthy, you were in great shape prior to getting a diagnosis of cancer, correct?

Kristin R.: 06:16 Yeah, I had been an athlete and I was in some of the best

shape of my life back in October 2005. I was looking forward to the ski season. I was in awesome shape and thought that everything was going great. My weight was just right. I was in a good direction and then I got this diagnosis and I have never skied since. I tried one day, the following winter after cancer therapy, and I didn't even make it to the chair lift basically. I skied back to the lodge from this chair lift, and sat and cried.

John Malanca: 06:48 Was it pain, or weakness, or energy? Kristin R.: 06:53 Weakness. John Malanca: 06:54 Yeah.

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Kristin R.: 06:54 Weakness, no energy. John Malanca: 06:56 A lot of these autoimmune issues came after your cancer

diagnosis, correct? Kristin R.: 07:03 Yeah. Actually, when I was talking about, for instance, just

being weak, that was purely from the cancer. When I really came down with the autoimmune problems was it was June 30th, overnight, of 2007. It was about six months or so, a little bit more, six to nine months after my treatment had ended. That's when I was hit with the autoimmune disease, that's when the pain from the fibro and all these other symptoms started.

John Malanca: 07:34 You're great with dates and that's something that I am.

When you have stuff like this you'll never forget those dates. I go through every day of remembering with Corinne, where we were, what dates, things where we were diagnosed, what we went through. It sounds like you're the same.

Kristin R.: 07:58 Yeah, I think it actually is a form of trauma, just like a

trauma victim will remember certain points of what happened to them, it will stick in their memory and we don't forget those details ever. Around it, might be a fog, but there's certain details that you never forget. It's like where you when the space shuttle blew up, or where were you when Kennedy died, if you're old enough for that. I don't think you are, I am, barely. Because it's kind of a traumatic experience I think that's why those dates get stuck in our memories so much and we don't forget them.

Kristin R.: 08:34 I think the important part for me is to learn to become less

emotional about it, to be able to think about those dates and think about those occurrences. As a friend explained to me, it's like taking a book off the shelf and you don't let yourself get emotionally involved. You just read it, close the book and put it back on the shelf. When I look back at experiences with that attitude and that lightness, then I look through it now, I can open the book and read it and not

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have that emotional trauma that I had before. Now, I remember, I don't forget, but I don't have the emotional content that comes with it, quite that emotional blow that I used to have.

John Malanca: 09:16 But it is similar to PTSD. I remember Corinne and I, we

were convinced we were going to beat this bloody disease. Kristin R.: 09:24 Oh of course. John Malanca: 09:25 But we talked about it's like after this I think we have to go

talk to somebody because this has been very traumatic for us. We had it all planned out, mapped out of what we were going to do and the next steps to get to the next part of our life, open wound and hearing you when you were diagnosed on the third of July you said, 2017 that's right when Corrine and I we were diagnosed June 29, 2017. Our doctors went out of town for 10 days for the 4th of July weekend or week. Like you, I went to everything and had to do it on my own for 10 days because our doctor was gone.

Kristin R.: 10:13 That's a big responsibility. John Malanca: 10:16 It's a big responsibility. Kristin R.: 10:19 But Corinne was so lucky to have had you. That was part of

my story is that I've done it mostly by myself without very much support at all. There are a handful of people who have tried and have been really wonderful and really grateful to have them there with them on the journey. But as far as treatment decisions, everything that I did, all the record keeping, day to day, I did on my own.

John Malanca: 10:43 Oh boy.

Kristin R.: 10:44 At least she had you at the end and you were with her every

single day. That love, that means so much. John Malanca: 10:56 If I was closer [crosstalk 00:10:57] I'd be your support

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system. We are your support system. Kristin R.: 11:00 Yes. John Malanca: 11:00 We have a whole community that will be your whole system

because-

Kristin R.: 11:01 You are. The people, and you, there are other people that I found as well who have been my support system, even ones when people step away when they know I'm using cannabis, when they won't help me financially because I'm using cannabis. They won't help me because they're afraid that I'm doing the wrong thing and that I'm killing myself by not getting allopathic treatment. When all those people step away, and scatter out of your life, and that's something that you expect when you use cannabis, unfortunately. We're in a transition period where some people are open to it and some are not. That's kind of the reality of it.

John Malanca: 11:42 Can you share with some of our listeners the difference

between allopathic treatment, as well as holistic and alternative?

Kristin R.: 11:50 Well the first time I started with neoadjuvant, which then I

had chemotherapy first to shrink the tumor, they were able to shrink it away from my skin, so I had a better cosmetic result and I was very happy with that I thought. Then I had my surgery and 99.95% of the tumor was dead. They only find a couple of live cancer cells that were left when they pulled it out. Then I went through 30 days of radiation, plus a boost. They used five different chemo agents on me the first time. This time around I decided I didn't want surgery. I did allow them to do a needle biopsy because I didn't know how else to prove whether it was cancer or not. Now I know that there's certain tests that you can take that I've learned about since that can detect cancer, so if you have something showing on a mammogram or thermography and you want to know for sure whether it's cancer you don't have to have a biopsy now, you can take a blood test. If you

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have these cancer antibodies, then you just assume it's cancer and you start treating for cancer to chase that.

Kristin R.: 13:11 The first thing I started using was cannabis and then I

started using things like PectaSol-C, which is modified citrus pectin, that lowers your Galectin-3 and prevents metastasis of the cancer. I took DIM. At the time it was DIM with I3C, which now I'm not sur the I3C is necessarily, but the DIM is necessary. I also took calcium D-glucarate. Once I was diagnosed cancer free I did take away calcium D-glucarate because it was so expensive, that was one of the ones I had to cut back on.

John Malanca: 13:47 The majority of those treatments when you do alternative,

they're not covered on insurance, because I know we did [crosstalk 00:13:54] immune therapy, we did stem cells, we did high Vitamin C, you name it.

Kristin R.: 14:02 Right. I have been on a real budget. I have had no

substantial ... I have had certain people help me in certain amounts and I'm happy for every penny that I get, but it hasn't been a dent in what I really needed. I had to really do this on a budget. I had a very small nest egg, not much money. That was my nest egg for when I retired. I decided I better spend it because if I didn't spend it I might not get to the age where I could completely retire. I've had to do everything on a budget. If there was something like an IVIC that I wanted to do, or CG-MAF, which I really wanted to do, those things are just way out of my price range. There was no way I could do them.

Kristin R.: 14:49 I had to do this on a budget and find the most cost effective

ways of getting to do this, and I was still spending tremendous amounts of money. At one point I was spending $1500 a month just on cannabis.

John Malanca: 15:04 Wow. Kristin R.: 15:04 Plus supplements, plus other things. I went through my little

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nest egg very, very quickly. If I didn't have that nest egg I don't know what I would have done. If my cancer were to come back now I don't know what I would do because now it's gone and now I'm living paycheck to paycheck.

John Malanca: 15:22 Could you share some of your cost-saving tips that you've

found and that are working for you? Kristin R.: 15:30 Well sure. I lost my ear phone there. One of the things that I

found is full extract cannabis oil is a very cost-effective way of getting cannabis. When I was using it at the beginning and where I wanted to taper to at the end, let's say a rice grain or two rice grains a day that they talk about, or let's say so many milligrams a day of THC. Doctor Frankel goes between 15 and 30 are the maintenance dose. What you would do is take that gram, determine the number of milligrams and then divide that and find out the number of pills you need. You can stretch that little gram out to be 30 days or 38 days if you want to. You can still get let's say your 15 gram dosage a day that you need, by 15 I mean 15 CBD, 15 THC if you're on a 1:1 regimen. It was a whole lot cheaper than buying the oil, if I was using the tincture, or a spray, or some other modality and I was trying to get 15 grams a day, it was a lot more expensive than taking the full extract cannabis oil and distributing it in pills. That was a very cost-effective way that I saved a lot of money doing that.

John Malanca: 16:52 How long did it take to realize that? Kristin R.: 16:55 I'm sorry, what? John Malanca: 16:55 How long did it take you to find this discovery? Kristin R.: 17:01 Well I found it pretty quickly because it was within a couple

of weeks I was starting to really react to the taste and really being put off. I didn't think I could continue if I had to taste that three times a day every day, so I found the pill. I actually got the idea for that from The Sacred Plant

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because I had watched, I can't remember the name now, the woman in New York who owns a shop. She was making her suppositories using coconut oil and her cannabis oil. That gave me the idea then to use a capsule. I decided to use MCT oil because I didn't want to melt things on the stove because that was another cost-saving idea I had was that when you have to transfer the oil to something and heat, and then transfer it to something else to then put it in the capsules, you're wasting a lot of product along the way and washing it down the drain. By injecting it with a syringe straight into the capsules and then storing in the MCT I wasn't wasting any product. So it saved me a lot.

John Malanca: 18:10 These syringes aren't injectables syringes, they're not with

needles that Kristin's talking about. It's a syringe minus the needle, basically just for measurement reasons. They usually come in a one gram syringe, which you use, or up to a 10 gram syringe.

Kristin R.: 18:32 Yes. I prefer ... They call it ... It's like a distribution needle. It

looks like a needle except there's no point, it's not to go into the skin. All it is, is a hollow tube and that just helps you aim it down into the capsule and makes it go in very easy. You can buy those online very cheaply as well. For instance, the syringes I get they have an attachment and I can hook one of those little dispensing needles on it and that's how I get it into the capsule so easily.

John Malanca: 19:04 You're on a wellness dose right now? Kristin R.: 19:08 Yeah. I did the Rick Simpson oil and at one point I was up

at a full gram a day, which turned out to be too much for me. It took me a long time to figure it out. Most of my treatment was actually done at half a gram a day. After the clean thermogram, then I cut back to a quarter gram a day and now I'm at an eighth of a gram a day. I would like to cut back further to stretch my dollars further, but right now as soon as I cut back on that eighth a gram to something else then my autoimmune symptoms start coming back, so what

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I'm doing now is treating my other conditions with it and then hoping it also keeps the cancer at bay.

John Malanca: 19:51 You have multiple conditions that you're treating with

cannabis, but you're also proving the example why more is not better.

Kristin R.: 19:59 Even when I did try cannabis or when I was a little psychoactive on cannabis I never felt good on it. I tend to get paradoxical reactions through lots of medications. Benadryl will keep me up at night. Sometimes it puts me to sleep, most of the time it keeps me up at night. There are things that are supposed to speed me up that actually slow me down, so I get paradoxical reactions. With cannabis, for some reason instead of feeling pleasantly high like most people would I tend to get a little bit irritable and uptight. I also tend to be a very tense person to begin with, maybe that's a tendency of mine. But the fact that I have paradoxical reactions I think is what actually gives me this unusual reaction.

Kristin R.: 20:47 I think the reason I talked a lot today about those reactions

is because it can happen to you when you're experimenting with cannabis. But the smarter you are about it the less likely it is to happen. I also wanted people to know I was using high dosages, because I experienced these things I want people to know if it does accidentally happen to you that it's not a scary thing. I want people to know that there are reactions that are different from other people to high levels of cannabis. Rather than being in the treatment window I was taking too much cannabis I wasn't aware of it because I wasn't because I wasn't aware what my personal body reaction was to the cannabis. I just wanted people to be aware so they could look for those things because there aren't many of us out there that it happens to, it's good information to have so you can discover it sooner.

John Malanca: 21:45 Can I ask you a question because this happens quite a bit

on a lot of patients we work with, they go online and they

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read this Rick Simpson protocol, which is not really designed for everybody. I just want people to know that-

Kristin R.: 21:59 No it's not. John Malanca: 22:01 ... the Rick Simpson protocol is taking a gram a day. It

doesn't say if you're a 2 year old child or a 95 year old [crosstalk 00:22:10].

Kristin R.: 22:10 And it doesn't say what the percentage of THC or CBD is in

that gram either, right? John Malanca: 22:16 Yeah. A lot of people go right out of the gate and go a gram.

Then they have a bad experience and then they say, "I'll never do this again."

Kristin R.: 22:24 Well Rick teaches you how to titrate up and it does work.

You start with one rice grain and you do that for four days. If you don't have any reaction and you're doing fine, then you do two rice grains a day for four days. You keep doubling it in that exponential way. Because you're taking one on one CBD with the THC, you're not getting very psychoactive at all.

John Malanca: 22:50 But the Rick Simpson protocol was not always with CBD, it

was a high THC made with [crosstalk 00:22:57]. Kristin R.: 22:57 CBD and THC, they were both high, a one to one ratio. John Malanca: 23:01 Which how he makes it is with paint thinner. Kristin R.: 23:08 The stuff that I have is done with CO2. John Malanca: 23:10 Yeah I know. Kristin R.: 23:11 So it's non-toxic. John Malanca: 23:13 It all changes. The true medical term is full-extract cannabis

oil, so I don't want people just automatically-

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Kristin R.: 23:19 Correct. John Malanca: 23:19 ... I'm going to go get Rick Simpson protocol. I share this all

the time, it would be like calling all types of coffee Starbucks coffee, perfect example of more is not always better for a lot of patients. If we would have given my father-in-law a gram a day and followed that protocol I know he wouldn't be here today. Corinne and I said, "Let's start low and see how we go." We found out with really about 10 milligrams we were having success. People used to say, "Impossible. You can't have the success." About a year later Corinne and I are up at a conference in Portland, Oregon and we hear this doctor speaking and it happened to be about micro-dosing, why less is more, and why is more in a lot of cases. I said, "Oh my gosh, this is exactly what we experienced ourself." That doctor, who's a dear friend of ours, is Doctor Sulak and so-

Kristin R.: 24:26 He's terrific. John Malanca: 24:28 But he talked about less is more, not only less is more

works in a lot of cases, but in cases like you, you can save money.

Kristin R.: 24:38 Right, exactly. He wanted me in that treatment window. Not

enough cannabis and you don't treat the symptoms or the disease that you're trying to treat, you don't get the effect you need. Too much and you become psychoactive and have problems on the medicine. In fact, some of the symptoms like the seizures, will go away at the proper dose, but if you take too much the seizures can actually come back at too high a dose. It's finding that perfect treatment window for everybody. At the beginning, I didn't really know about micro-dosing. I had watched the series quickly, but was available to me was the RSO, and so I just went with it.

Kristin R.: 25:21 For me, part of my belief system was if that i hit it harder

that it would help it. Part of my belief system was that I needed a slightly higher amount, so I think that might have

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helped my psychologically just deal with it better. But now that I'm down to an eighth of a gram, which is still a lot, I'm taking let's 38 grams a day. For instance, for Doctor Allan Frankel, his treatment window is usually between 30 and 60 grams a day [crosstalk 00:25:51] or milligrams a day.

John Malanca: 25:52 Milligrams a day. Kristin R.: 25:54 Yeah milligrams and I'm taking like 38, which is in his

treatment window, which is a little higher than his maintenance window. I would like to get down to that maintenance dose, so I'm looking for that microdose. But like I said, my sweet spot seems to be a little bit higher. I'm at the one-eighth of a gram right now with my autoimmune symptoms and I feel so much better at that dosage that I'm going to keep it up. Every few weeks I'll try to work it down again.

John Malanca: 26:23 Can you share the formulation that you're on right now? Kristin R.: 26:26 Excuse me? John Malanca: 26:27 Can you share the formulation that you're on right now? Kristin R.: 26:31 Oh-

John Malanca: 26:33 Are you on a 1:1 ratio or what ratio [crosstalk 00:26:36]? Kristin R.: 26:35 Yes, it's approximately 1:1 is what I go for. But the problem

is, sometimes the 1:1 is a little CBD high. Sometimes it's a little THC high. They're not exactly consistent, but sometimes I have to compensate for the dosages. I do the very best with it being just slightly CBD high, almost 1:1. If the things that are actually created that one oil is available, the CBD high, if the CBD is too high and the THC too low for me, then they have the opposite one. I use a 1:1, but it's as close to 1:1 as they can get without separating the ingredients and putting them back together for me, like I said. They're actually taking whole plant oil from particular

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buds, so that's where the variation is coming in. John Malanca: 27:26 You're doing this at night before bed and it helps you sleep

as well? Kristin R.: 27:31 Yes. I actually do it early in the evening like six, seven

o'clock, and then I'm ready to go to bed at 8:30-9:30. I'm trying to get to bed earlier now.

John Malanca: 27:42 Do you find that you wake up going to bed that early,

throughout the night? Kristin R.: 27:49 When I was taking iodine yes. Now, not so much. I only

woke up once last night. John Malanca: 27:55 Good. Kristin R.: 27:55 And I was fine. But for me, it takes two or three hours to get

in my system, so if I have it at six at night then it's not really hitting me and I'm not getting sleepy until eight, nine at night-

John Malanca: 28:07 Good. Kristin R.: 28:08 ... which is when I want to go to bed. So that's why I take it

that early because I'm ingesting it. If I was using some other modality that was a faster delivery system then I would be doing it later in the evening.

John Malanca: 28:18 You know your body and it sounds like you've taken

incredible notes. You know your body on how to fine tune your body.

Kristin R.: 28:28 Mm-hmm (affirmative). I've learned I need to listen harder to

my body. There are times when my body was giving me things that I ignored and came to regret that, but I'm learning. It's not so much regret, okay, it was another learning experience I know about.

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John Malanca: 28:43 Since cannabis is not a one-size-fits-all, everyone's different, hopefully one day it will get to the point where you have this, take that, you have this, take that. But you've had to find your sweet spot, but you also found for you what times of the day, and you were pretty strict on what times of the day you ingested your medicine, correct?

Kristin R.: 29:05 At the beginning I was very strict. I set up a schedule

because I realized I wasn't sleeping well. I wanted to establish a circadian rhythm, so I decided to eat on a schedule and take my meds on a schedule and maybe that would help regulate my circadian system. I was splitting my gram between three doses a day. I didn't like the taste, I just couldn't take the taste anymore. One day I actually threw it back up and I decided, "Well that was a waste of money. I can't do that anymore." I started making pills. I got MCT pill capsules and I started squirting it into the pills and filling the pills with an eye dropper with MCT oil. I would prepare a whole week or so at a time and started taking pills. I was doing that three times a day. When I cut back to a half gram a day I was on intermittent fasting, I was only eating twice a day, so I medicated twice a day as well and cut back. Now that I'm down to an eighth of a gram, to a tenth of a gram, I keep trying to go down and popping back up, I'm just taking it once a day and I take it in the evening because now it does make me a little bit more sleepy and a little bit more ready to fall asleep, so I [crosstalk 00:30:22].

John Malanca: 30:23 How are you sleep patterns? I know you have fibromyalgia,

which is tough. Are you sleeping? Is it helping having more sleep battling your fibromyalgia?

Kristin R.: 30:37 Yes, in general, yes. I'm sleeping better than I was before I

got cancer and started using cannabis. I still have a lot of trouble with sleep. One of the things I learned though, and I just figured this out recently, and my sleep improved tremendously, I was taking too much iodine and that was revving me up. When I heard Andrew [Saul 00:31:03] and he said you really only needed 50 micrograms a day and I

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was taking way too much. I just started taking iodine with my multi-vitamin and I stopped any additional supplement. All of a sudden I'm sleeping better-

John Malanca: 31:17 Good. Kristin R.: 31:17 ... better through the night, for longer periods, not waking

up. Where I noticed the cannabis helping is it makes me sleepy in the evening and I'm able to relax, I'm able to fall asleep easily.

John Malanca: 31:29 And [crosstalk 00:31:30]. Kristin R.: 31:29 Then without the iodine I'm able to stay asleep longer. John Malanca: 31:34 Good. Then for our listeners too that are new to our group,

you're not smoking this, it's more of an oil-base. I know you mention capsule, but have you ever ingested via smoking or no?

Kristin R.: 31:52 I did try it just once. I met a woman said that she was using

smoking. I thought in my whole life I've never actually tried it. I thought what the heck, why not try it for once. But because I was on the high dose from the Rick Simpson , I really got no affect from it at all. Taking a few hits is taking 10-20 grams and I had been taking, even at half a gram, I was taking like 200 grams a day. Actually, I didn't get high from the smoking at all. I tend to react a little bit different than most people took pot. I shouldn't use that word, that's a bad word, took cannabis. People take it so that it increases their appetite, but it decreases mine. And-

John Malanca: 32:42 I read that one. Kristin R.: 32:43 ... a lot of people get happy on it, I get agitated and irritable

on it. I have this opposite reaction from other people and that's why it took me a long time to figure out what was going on.

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John Malanca: 32:56 Have you tried ... I know you mentioned that you would get your medicine from a local dispensary there, that test [inaudible 00:33:04] everything else like that, but one batch would come in ... and this is why I think that I hope one day it becomes true medicine, that you guarantee every single time you take it it's going to be the same formulation, same terpenes. You were running [crosstalk 00:33:22] right?

Kristin R.: 33:24 I'm getting whole plant oil from ... There were two different

companies that sell here in Reno primarily. They have very detailed labels with THC-V, THC-A, whatever happens to be in there they have very detailed testing labels. I also took one from one of the companies to a lab when I very first started doing it because I wanted them to test it so that I knew that I could rely on the label. The label wasn't exactly right, but it was in the ballpark, so I knew I could trust the company. What the label really helped me to do is that sometimes I would get let's say a gram that would have 490 grams of THC in it. The next time I'd get one with 380 grams. What I would do was I would base what I wanted to do on 400 grams, then I would have to make either a little bit fewer pills, a little bit more pills. I would either stretch it or condense it a little bit depending on the THC content so I would get the dosage that I want. I had to be very aware of the changes from time to time.

Kristin R.: 34:32 There was one time when I was coming down after I was

given the all clear and I started decreasing. Doctor Sulak talked about ... He's a physician in Maine, he's wonderful and I consulted with him over the phone. He said that if you wait 48 hours then you will be resensitized because if you get too sensitized as you're building up then it takes more and more THC and oil to get the effect that you want. If you go off for 48 hours and then you start again then it's more effective. You can lower the dose and get the same effect. I was doing that on my way down and there was a time when I took two days off and then I started up again, but I started half the dose. You go down exponentially, just like you'd go up exponentially. What I didn't realize is that I'd gone from

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something that was let's say a 385 or 380, now all of a sudden this is like a 495 of THC. So even though I cut my dose, it was still more THC than I had been taking for the last few weeks, so I actually overdosed on it a little bit and I got to experience what people go through when they eat too many edibles, when the world starts moving and your heart starts pounding. For me, it wasn't a pleasant overdose at all. Thank goodness I watched your series because I knew to expect that when I overdosed, so I knew I what was happening and I just laid on the couch and decided to go to sleep. I just thought I'd sleep it off and I slept through the night and when I woke up the next morning I was fine, it was not a big deal.

Kristin R.: 36:16 My friend went to a party where they were serving

marijuana in brownies and she was afraid to try it. She didn't want to drive home under the influence, but she was curious. My friend took it home with her. She didn't know about edibles and she ate the whole brownie and she overdosed, but no one had told her to expect what an overdose might be like and that it might be unpleasant and she was really afraid because she didn't know what was happening to her. Now she has an autoimmune condition and I know that Alan Frankel is treating that condition in his offices, but my friend wants nothing to do with cannabis now and won't go in for cannabis treatment because of that negative experience that she had. I'm so glad that you're getting the word out about edibles. I just really don't like people using edibles unless they're very experienced and know exactly what they're doing. Especially for newbies, you need to experience everything first and then if you want to try something you would be more up from coming from a better educated place.

John Malanca: 37:18 I know veterans who have used cannabis their whole lives

that won't do edibles anymore. I have a good friend of mine that took this and he says, "I shook, I threw up and everything." He won't do edibles. Perfect example like your friend, my father-in-law, when we first diagnosed back in

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2011, I went down to the dispensary and I got him an edible, a little piece of chocolate. He tried it and he was uncomfortable and he didn't want to try it again. I said, "Dad, just please, please just trust me again." He trusted me. We went about two milligrams and he didn't feel anything, but it upped his appetite, which is exactly what we were looking for and the rest is history. He's still alive today. He had an uncomfortable experience with an edible and that's why it's so important that we cover this topic on edibles, just because something tastes delicious and it's such a small little piece doesn't mean it's not potent. Sometimes it takes an hour or something to feel anything. 45 later minutes you said, "You know what, I'm not feeling like something, let me eat it again." Now you have a double [crosstalk 00:38:29]. It's not something like if you have too much alcohol you can throw up and feel better, it's in your system and you're going to have to ride it out. I just [crosstalk 00:38:39].

Kristin R.: 38:39 But going to sleep is a good way of riding it out. John Malanca: 38:42 Going to sleep, taking a bath if you're able, hot shower. Kristin R.: 38:46 Hot showers. John Malanca: 38:47 Eating some peppercorns. I shared a book with you earlier

and this is something that got Corinne and I through a lot. It's called "Heal Your Body" by Louise Hay. It's very, very thin. You can read it in 10-15 minutes max. But you know how you talked about meditation, and tapping, and faith, and your belief system and cannabis, and other nutritional your foods and your other supplements, I think combining everything on your journey to healing is very important. I thank you for sharing your story.

Kristin R.: 39:28 Thank you so much. Thanks for the opportunity to get the

word out. You reach so many 100s of 1,000s ... I don't know how many people you reach with these videos.

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John Malanca: 39:38 Well I reached you. Corinne and I we looked at it, if we can reach one person then we know what we're doing we're on the right path. So I think that's [crosstalk 00:39:48].

Kristin R.: 39:47 Well you definitely reached me. I think we were destined to

wind up here today, sitting here doing this. John Malanca: 39:55 I have to share why you contacted me one day is because

you saw the interview that Cindy and I had, so that touched you. Cindy was nervous to share her story. Actually, she even mentioned in our interview that if I could help one person then I know what I'm doing here today by being in this interview that it's worth it. I just want to let Cindy know, I hope you're watching this Cindy, is that your story touched Kristin so much that she called me. That's what led to our interview today, so thank you Cindy for [crosstalk 00:40:39].

Kristin R.: 40:38 I think that was the most powerful interview you did. She

was the most impressive woman and her husband was just wonderful as well.

John Malanca: 40:45 They were incredible. They were a husband/wife team.

They didn't know who I was and I shared my story of Corinne, when I shared that we just bonded. Thank you Cindy and thank you Kristin as well.

Kristin R.: 41:00 You're welcome. Thank you. Thanks to everyone who's

listening with an open mind, and learning and taking advantage of this education that you're providing for everyone.

John Malanca: 41:11 Bless you with everything. I know we'll be in touch. Kristin R.: 41:13 Thank you for being there, for setting me up on my journey

on the right foot. It's been powerful and I hope to stay associated with you. I'll keep following everything you do.

John Malanca: 41:25 I appreciate your support as well. Bless you and wishing

you a wonderful, wonderful day.

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Kristin R.: 41:33 Thank you, you too. John Malanca: 41:33 Thanks Kristin.

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