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H A N S A R D PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Speaker: Hon. Kathleen M. Casey Hansard, Published by Order of the Legislature Index of Committees 8 December 2009 to 30 March 2010 June 2010 Volume 5

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PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY

Speaker: Hon. Kathleen M. Casey Hansard, Published by Order of the Legislature

Index of Committees

8 December 2009

to

30 March 2010

June 2010 Volume 5

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Introduction

Whereas the previous four volumes of the Index of Committees covered committeescreated in 2007, Volume 5 deals with a newly established set of committees:

Agriculture, Environment, Energy and Forestry (AEEF)Community and Intergovernmental Affairs (CIA)Education and Innovation (EI)Fisheries, Transportation and Rural Development (FTRD)Health, Social Development and Seniors (HSDS)Privileges, Rules and Private Bills (PRPB)Public Accounts (PA)

The time period covered is 13 January 2010 to 30 March 2010.As before, the Index is divided into two headings: Members and Witnesses; and Subjects.

Under the first heading, Members means MLAs serving on committees, or as non-votingmembers of a committee; Witnesses means any MLAs who have presented before a committee,Legislative Assembly staff, the Auditor General, bureaucrats, consultants, experts, members ofthe public, and others.

Each of the seven committees has been given a code for easier reference. These codes areattached to members and witnesses, so that if a person named Smith was on or appeared beforethree committees, the code would be attached to a name, e.g., “Smith (AEEF),” “Smith (PA),”and “Smith (HSDS).” Under Subjects, the same codes are attached to a particular topic.

Numbering of pages is sequential within each committee. The Schedule of Meetingsshows when each committee met and what page numbers apply.

Jeff BurseyManager of HansardJune 2010

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Committees

Agriculture, Environment, Energy andForestryBagnall, JimCurrie, MikeDocherty, ValerieHenderson, RobertMcGeoghegan, CharlieMcIsaac, Alan (Chair)Vessey, RobertWatts, Buck

Community and Intergovernmental AffairsBagnall, JimBiggar, PaulaCrane, OliveDunsford, CynthiaGallant, SonnyGreenan, GerardHenderson, Robert (Chair)Murphy, Pat

Education and InnovationBagnall, JimCurrie, MikeDumville, BushDunsford, Cynthia (Chair as of 25 March)Gallant, Sonny (Chair until 8 February)McGeoghegan, CharlesMcIsaac, AlanMurphy, Pat

Fisheries, Transportation and RuralDevelopmentBagnall, JimCurrie, MikeDumville, Bush (Chair)McGeoghegan, CharlesMcIsaac, AlanMitchell, RobertMurphy, PatWatts, Buck

Health, Social Development and SeniorsBagnall, JimBiggar, Paula (Chair)Crane, OliveDocherty, ValerieDumville, BushDunsford, CynthiaGallant, SonnyHenderson, Robert

Privileges, Rules and Private BillsBagnall, JimBiggar, Paula (Chair)Brown, RichardCrane, OliveMacKinley, RonSherry, JaniceVessey, RobertWebster, George

Public AccountsBagnall, Jim (Chair)Biggar, PaulaCrane, OliveGallant, SonnyGreenan, GerardMcGeoghegan, CharlesWatts, Buck (Vice-chair)

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Descriptions of Standing Committees

Agriculture, Environment, Energy and ForestryThe Standing Committee on Agriculture, Environment, Energy and Forestry is charged withmatters concerning agriculture, the environment, energy and forestry.

Community and Intergovernmental AffairsThe Standing Committee on Community and Intergovernmental Affairs is charged with mattersconcerning community and cultural affairs, labour and justice, intergovernmental affairs and theconstitution of Canada.

Education and InnovationThe Standing Committee on Education and Innovation is charged with matters concerningeducation, higher learning, and economic development.

Fisheries, Transportation and Rural DevelopmentThe Standing Committee on Fisheries, Transportation and Rural Development is charged withmatters concerning fisheries, transportation and rural development.

Health, Social Development and SeniorsThe Standing Committee on Health, Social Development and Seniors is charged with mattersconcerning health, social development and seniors.

Privileges, Rules and Private BillsThe Standing Committee on Privileges, Rules and Private Bills is charged with mattersconcerning the rules and privileges of the Legislative Assembly, and private bills.

Public AccountsThe Standing Committee on Public Accounts is charged with matters concerning the PublicAccounts of the Province and the annual report of the Auditor General.

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Schedule of Meetings

Committee Pages

Agriculture, Environment, Energy and Forestry20 January 1-89 February 9-4625 February 47-8325 March 84-12230 March 123-147

Community and Intergovernmental Affairs13 January 1-627 January 7-3510 February 36-7626 February 77-1239 March 124-17310 March 174-18811 March 189-216

Education and Innovation15 January 1-425 March 5-6

Fisheries, Transportation and Rural Development19 January 1-728 January 8-3123 February 32-8324 March 84-100

Health, Social Development and Seniors19 January 1-82 February 9-1017 March 11-4223 March 43-55

Privileges, Rules and Private Bills [none]

Public Accounts18 February 1-39

Headings for Index of Committees

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Agricultural, Environment and NaturalResourcesBeefBiofuelsBio-IndustryEnvironment-generalFarm equipmentFisheries

Sport FisheryForestryGeneral Crambe Crop InsuranceHarness RacingPotatoSmall flock holdersWindYoung farmers

Arts, Recreation and TourismTourism

Business and IndustryPNP-see under Economics and Finance-

Public Accounts

Economics and FinancePublic Accounts

PNP

Government and Public AdministrationMunicipalitiesStanding Committees

Health and Social Services SeniorsSocial Services

Information and Communications Internet

Justice and RightsHuman rights

Labour, Employment and EducationEducationLabour

Wage Differential

Transportation, Infrastructure and RuralDevelopmentInfrastructureRural Development

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Members and Witnesses

ABBOTT, JANINE (CIA)Multi-tiered minimum wage; save money onindividual first-time workers; paying new employeeslower wage during probation; new system backtrackto like it was years ago; probation period; protectionfor wrongful dismissal47-50

AFFLECK, RANDALL (NATIONAL FARMERSUNION) (AEEF)Cost of production; Legislature has resources andstaff to investigate farming; recommendationspresented to minister; $30 million budget in farming;global problem; over-export dependent; NilssonBrothers in western Canada own most auction barns;subsidy for cow/calf producers; provincial program inAlberta; presentations made across country on cattlesupply; farm gate pricing; lack of competition at theretail sector; Canadian Wheat Board; single-deskselling of hogs in Manitoba to single-desk buying;focus on beef industry; viability of plant goingforward; losses in beef plant; packer and retailerissues; no money made hauling cattle and hogs toOntario or Quebec 110-115

AITON, DAVID (PEI AGRICULTURALINSURANCE CORPORATION) (AEEF)Manager of Agricultural Insurance Corporation;administers federal-provincial safety net programs forPEI; Crop Insurance Program; AgriStability;AgriInvest; AgriRecovery; insurance program goingsince 1961; premium rates established on yearlybasis; program regulated by federal/provincialregulations; non-profit organization; premium costs;governments pay portion of the premium; growingconditions; loss ratio; purchase reinsurance coverage;number of individual insurance contracts; Grains andProtein Council; changes to program for portion ofcrop will remain in feed sector; recommendationsfrom industry; for crop disposal; assisted or fundedunder federal/provincial agreements; cost-share onpremiums; cost to producers to be in program;coverage for colour; more money for product withbetter colour; proposal to take to board of directorsfor colour option; gravity problem; coverage on cropsuntil December 20th; extension of storage coverage;rider coverage; processing growers self-insuring bygrowing a few extra acres; excess production in tablestock market; core base of agents on PEI; visit farm

and discuss program; like to see participation in CropInsurance Program at 80%; insure a marketable yield;new crop crambe; hemp oil; new crop restriction of70% coverage in first year47-60

ARSENAULT, MARCEL (DEVA FORESTRYSERVICES LTD.) (AEEF)Forestry business for over 30 years; forest industry inneed of increased funding; half of Island land base isforested; small woodlot owners on PEI; heatgovernment buildings with biomass; revenue fromwood; Forest Enhancement Program; silviculturework; deficiencies in revenue-generating sector offorestry; forestry sector geared to pulp and lumber;monoculture; have healthy forestry by replacing cutsoftwood; plantations; 16,000 woodlot owners in PEI;FEP program is mostly labour; losing silvicultureworkforce; Commercial Safety College; ArsenaultSaw Mill; on PEI, can’t tell woodlot owners what todo; replanting of trees; costs 25 cents to plant a tree84-88; 90-92

BAGNALL, JIM (Montague-Kilmuir) Agenda, planning (AEEF), 1-8; 45-46 (CIA), 74-75 (EI), 1-4 (FTRD), 5-7; 30-31 (HSDS), 8; 9-10 (PA), 37-39Agriculture industry (AEEF), 2Amendment to bill (CIA), 9Amount of income social assistance people can earn(HSDS), 50Apply for funding for tree planting (AEEF), 91Approved area (FTRD), 20Beef and pork industry in dire straits (AEEF), 36Beef plant in Albany (AEEF), 37-38Cavendish and McCains cutting back on production(AEEF), 118Commission considered a wage (CIA), 52; 53Committee Putting roadblock up on Auditor General (PA), 9 Shutting down witnesses appearing beforecommittee (PA), 8Companies received money while wife worked withPNP program (PA), 1-2Confidence in the Auditor General (PA), 9Construction costs so high (HSDS), 40

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Consultations should have been done before billpassed (CIA), 13Copy of presentation (FTRD), 64Cost of growing borage per acre (AEEF), 99Costs an employer to hire new employees (CIA), 55Debt of companies that have applied under theprogram (PA), 36Dental coverage for people on social assistance(HSDS), 31Department of agriculture should set up stability fund(AEEF), 118Eastern School District re-zoning issues (EI), 1-2Economy is number one issue (FTRD), 54-55Egg Marketing Board (AEEF), 13-14Employer determines raise of employee (CIA), 55Employers not having to pay benefits (CIA), 73-74Employment Standards Act given Royal Assent(CIA), 7Executive Council has power to make decision (CIA),13Final update before on recommendations of report(PA), 27Fishermen not able to make payments (FTRD), 52-53Fishing industry in dire straits (FTRD), 1Follow up on companies re: regulations (PA), 36Funding for a company to do a crab line (FTRD), 70-71Health Canada testing red meat in Canada (AEEF), 6High-speed service on HSPA (FTRD), 26Human Rights Act (CIA), 60Immigrants Not knowing what companies they invested in(PA), 15 Confused about program details (PA), 14Income tax exemption (CIA), 44-45; 46Inspection Canada give update (AEEF), 4Inventory program for lobster processors (FTRD), 53Investigation of files (PA), 21-22Invitation for Processing plants to attend meetings (FTRD), 2 Minister of Fisheries to attend meeting (FTRD), 1Jobs for people on social assistance (HSDS), 30-31Judge Thompson report (AEEF), 7Keep processing industry and fishermen afloat(FTRD), 53Language person doing translations doing interviews (PA), 19Length of time For term (HSDS), 7 To get upgrade (FTRD), 26Letter of undertaking from businesses to IIDI (PA),22Lifeline and Helpline for seniors (HSDS), 14

Lines full and no access (FTRD), 25Loan applications and programs not filled outproperly (PA), 20Looking after lobster from catch to selling (FTRD),78-79Loss of Lobsters in transporting (FTRD), 79-80 Money on social assistance when you work(HSDS), 31 Processors would be loss of industry (FTRD), 55Meetings regarding two-tier wage system (CIA), 1-2Motion re: audit of IIDI by Arsenault Best CameronEllis (PA), 30No Cost for upgrade of system (FTRD), 27-28 New consultations across the province since 2006(CIA), 19 Regulations written for bill (CIA), 12Notification to immigrants (PA), 21Number of commissioners (HSDS), 5Ocean Choice will renegotiate (FTRD), 72One time grant to assist seniors to appointments(HSDS), 14PEI one of lowest provinces of minimum wage(CIA), 54Presentation from Geoff Dubrow (PA), 13; 14; 37-38Price Cap on wireless solution (FTRD), 18-19 Of seed for crops (AEEF), 98Prices processors paying for lobsters (FTRD), 87Processors on PEI suffering (FTRD), 72Products coming in from other countries (AEEF), 36-37Program needed if agriculture is to remain in PEI(AEEF), 118Provincial ruling on number of flock (AEEF), 16Public consultations regarding bill (CIA), 8; 10-11Quota For meat chickens (AEEF), 16 System for eggs (AEEF), 15; 16Quotas set by market growth (AEEF), 15Rates for businesses (FTRD), 19Recommendations to Department of Agriculture(AEEF), 116Removal of motion until next meeting (PA), 33; 34Rental agreements have to be changed (HSDS), 40Rewarding of Liberal party after getting PNP units(PA), 3Rotary Club in Montague (HSDS), 15Selling of boxed beef (AEEF), 42-44Small flock owners (AEEF), 1-2Split wages (CIA), 12Subsidy for cow/calf producers (AEEF), 111

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Support of bill in the House (CIA), 9Tabling of motions for next meeting (PA), 4; 5Time limit on Future Farmer Program (AEEF), 35Tourism industry re: cheaper wages (CIA), 5Training Period for two-tier wage system (CIA), 13; 44; 48 Wages (CIA), 38-39; 41; 56Translators from both parties in attendance (PA), 19Two-tier wage system (CIA), 38Type of soil for growing crops (AEEF), 99-100Upgrade of system (FTRD), 26-27 Virus levels in potato industry (AEEF), 3-4Wage should be same for everyone (CIA), 59Wayne Phelan to have representative to speak(FTRD), 29Young Farmers Association (AEEF), 39

BAKER, EVERETT (CIA)Settled on PEI in 1963; Royal Canadian Navy;lineman with Maritime Electric; Electrical WorkersUnion and Federation of Labour; Congress of UnionRetirees of Canada; no good time for businesses toraise wages; employers resort to minimum wage forpart-0time workers; higher wages could mean fewerjobs; higher minimum wage has proven less staffturnover; reduction in costs of training; trade unionmovement; makeup and composition of minimumwage; training component for people enteringworkforce; probation period; gratuities; tips are notwages; person offering tip is for service received;kids working for less than minimum wage; studentsunder 16 working and getting hurt110-113

BERNARD, MARK (CIA)Accounting Technology student at Holland College;against proposal of different wage rates; hard forstudents to live on their own; managers make owndecisions; use own minimum wage system withinunit; Ontario has different wage rates; every wagestandard in Ontario is higher than Alberta; proposalto reduce wage rates on individuals; difference inrestaurants in tips81-83

BERTRAM, CAROLYN (Rustico-Emerald)

BIGGAR, PAULA (Tyne Valley-Linkletter)Age of hiring for businesses (CIA), 151; 153Agenda, planning (CIA), 35; 122-123 (HSDS), 6; 7-8; 9-10 (PA), 38-39

Candidates for terms of human rights commission(HSDS), 7Classification system in federal service (CIA), 26Commercial food service units (CIA), 93 Committee name changes (CIA), 148Comparison of system to rest of Canada (FTRD), 15Components an evaluation should have (PA), 25Consultations held in 2006 re: wages (CIA), 17; 18Contact for Internet service (FTRD), 11Employment Standards Act (CIA), 98-99Food service industry (CIA), 91Government and opposition agreed to vote on bill(CIA), 9Groups to be presenting at meetings (CIA), 5Income for women during child rearing years(HSDS), 21-22Inexperienced workers and minimum wage (CIA),151-152Innovation fund (FTRD), 13Length of time inexperienced worker classified asinexperienced (CIA), 102More literacy in population (HSDS), 27Motions put forward be sustained (PA), 5-6; 7Other provinces re: two-tier wage system (CIA), 2Plans for Phase four (FTRD), 12Presentation and research (CIA), 83Proposed amendment to two-tier wage system (CIA),1-2Protection for employees (CIA), 147Provincial tax exemption (CIA), 105Recommendations for servers and feedback (CIA),168Regional differentiation within federal government(CIA), 26Release of the Auditor General’s report (PA), 10Request for list of presenters (CIA), 33-34Return of Auditor General to a meeting (PA), 38Root causes of poverty (HSDS), 27Seniors access to social assistance income support(HSDS), 21Skilled labour coming on the job (CIA), 126Smaller Internet service providers (FTRD), 18Survey sample size (CIA), 106;108Three months to be used as a training wage (CIA),137-138Tips considered wage or earnings (CIA), 93Union legislation re: Labour Act (CIA), 147Wage Of employee based on skill set etc. (CIA), 125 Rates and classifications (CIA), 161-162Wages same when training people (CIA), 169Wayne Phelan to have representative to speak(FTRD), 29-30

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Work being done by committee (PA), 12; 13

BONNELL, MARK (SEAFOOD PROCESSORSASSOCIATION OF PRINCE EDWARDISLAND) (FTRD)Market for few products; product processed inMagdalen Islands and trucked to Sou’West Nova;lobster in storage in tubes; blood levels getting down;when blood levels down no good for air travel; salesin US last fall, people shifting to live market;increasing size hurting PEI; mostly market lobster inMagdalen Islands; 250-gram lobster sold to France;unique to PEI to have availability of smaller lobsterin PEI; Magdalen Islands gets 40% wage subsidy onprocessing lobster; Sou’West Nova hold certainamount of live; inventory is lower but value is less;popsicle market; canned lobster thing of the past;different size lobster is different areas; live trade;hold lobsters looking for better prices; worth more inJuly than June; increase of price to fishermen; peoplethat work buy lobster; fishermen and everyone haveto make money; not enough capacity on PEI; losingplants every year; losing 60% of product going acrossthe bridge; New Brunswick is benefitting37-39; 41- 48; 51-57

BOYD, MARY (COUNCIL OF CANADIANS)(Meeting 1) (CIA) (26 February 2010)Coordinator of MacKillop Centre for Social Justice;Poverty Bites; poverty eradication strategy; two-tierminimum wage system; minimum wage is a socialpolicy; majority of people in PEI are working poor;keep focus here on PEI; against legislation andintroduce a two-tiered minimum wage for PEI;victimizes youth, women and all vulnerable workers;PEI has lowest week wage in the country;unemployment rate of 10%; median hourly wage;highest percentage of workers of any provinceearning less than $10 an hour; more part time workersthan full time workers on PEI; lowest hourly wage inCanada for private sector; part-time jobs are low paidand no benefits; unbelievable conditions of work inprovince; average income of part-time workers inprovince hovers around poverty line; danger of cutsin wages; tips; Susan George, researcher; letter byPope Benedict XVI117-121

BOYD, MARY (MACKILLOP CENTRE FORSOCIAL JUSTICE AND POVERTY BITES)(Meeting 2) (HSDS) (23 March 2010)MacKillop Centre for Social Justice; working onpoverty eradication; Social Assistance Act; Appeal

Board; social assistant recipient on board; NationalChild Benefit; people requiring social assistanceforced to sell land; liquid assets; shelter and rent;standards for landlords too low; lack of housingstandards; transportation allowance is insufficient;recipients often given secondhand goods; earnedmonthly income; every person go through threerecessions in lifetime; Working Income Tax Benefit;federal government owns over 80% of socialprograms; current act is stifling; UN Declaration ofPeople with Disabilities; more universal-typeprograms needed to lift people out of poverty; IncomeSecurity for Working-Age Adults in Canada; Let’sConsider the Model Under Our Noses; Ontario ChildBenefit; 2007 Angus Reid poll; income supportprograms for seniors and children; Old Age Security;Child Benefits; 51% of workforce work part-time;child poverty; PEI statistics worse than otherprovinces in most ways; secondhand goods; socialassistance payments well below poverty line;guaranteed annual income; universal programs; NewBrunswick poverty reduction strategy43-54

BRAMMER, LEE (DEPARTMENT OFFISHERIES, AQUACULTURE AND RURALDEVELOPMENT) (FTRD)Clancy’s promotion with Moosehead Breweries;cross-marketing opportunities68

BRODERICK, LEO (COUNCIL OFCANADIANS) (CIA)Council of Canadians; social injustice to thislegislation; attack on workers; impact of minimumwage legislation; people living in poverty; thousandsof minimum wage workers in province living inpoverty; issue of poverty has to be addressed; two-tiered or multi-tiered; attack on workers globally;many employers who pay more than minimum wage;government ensure that legislation and regulations arein place; stand in solidarity with workers of PEI whoare the working poor; misunderstanding about lowincome workers; creative ways to motivate minimumwage employees; know what drives your employees;most live pay cheque to pay cheque; people deserve aliving wage; should have a decent standard of living;social assistance rates; attack on working poor;increase of wages; increase salaries to improve lives;hurts working poor the most; tax system needs to beoverhauled; small businesses tend to pay a little more;companies are making millions; need to address it asa society and community; very little public

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consultation; poverty wage113-117

BROWN, RICHARD (Charlottetown-VictoriaPark)

BURGE, IRENE (ALERT) (HSDS) Group of people working to try to improve people onsocial assistance; active since 1983;recommendations for act; want the act to be readable;elimination of poverty; provide funding for basicnecessities; eliminate clawbacks of the NationalChild Benefits Supplement; policies not readilyavailable to people on social assistance; greateramount of income should be allowed to people onsocial assistance; met with minister and deputyminister; housing study done; mothersundernourished because don’t have enough moneyfor food; funding to do housing research; fosterparents; three-point funding; ceiling on rent 34; 35-40

BURGE, MARIE (PEI WORKING GROUP FORA LIVABLE INCOME) (HSDS) PEI Working Group for a Livable Income;community-based organizations; Social AssistanceAct; people on social assistance have same rights;different ways people have income in their homes;many homes do not have decent living conditions; nothaving sufficient income to meet daily needs;inadequate income comes from low wages or EI; allcitizens have a right to a liveable income; a lot ofpeople too poor to be involved in community issues;prejudice against people on low income; many peoplein PEI living in poverty; government’s duty to protectand improve lives of citizens; develop a povertyreduction strategy; need for long-range vision andplan for elimination of poverty; poverty reductionstrategy; all government departments must beinvolved; organization of public finances; ALERTand PEI People First; recommendations made to PEIgovernment; access to programs depends on level ofincome 23-27

BUTTIMER, ABE (PEI FEDERATION OFAGRICULTURE) (AEEF)HST and the Atlantic Provinces; taxes on buildings;residue can’t be used for bedding; breeding industryof hogs that is in demand around the world; branding;Garden Province Meats brand; Maritime brand hasmore potential132; 134; 141; 143; 146

CAMPBELL, DOUG (NATIONAL FARMERSUNION) (AEEF)High prices of retailers; farmers price versus storeprice; auditing of books; Statistics Canada data;presented to committee before; government doesn’thave money to spend; beef sector should beconsidered asset to provincial government;government should invest in industry; governmentnot interested in agriculture industry 114; 116-117

CHAISSON, KELLY (CIA)Not as discriminatory as in other times; sometimesnot as many tips; info from across Canada re: two-tiered minimum wage; $8.50 is below poverty line inCanada; student poverty; taxes of text books47-48

CHAPPELL, CHRISTA (CIA)Business Administration at Holland College;experience an asset to employee and employer;differential wage reflected in bonuses; 40% minimumwage workers don’t have school diploma; minimumwage declines with age; older workers may be working to supplement pensionincome or to stay active; working seniors concentratein certain occupations 86-89

CHEVERIE, LEO (CUPE LOCAL 1870) (CIA)President of CUPE Local 1870; support staff at UPEI;impact on students entering workforce; member ofWorking Group for Liveable Income; minimum wageshould be liveable wage and liveable income; equalpay for work of equal value; Canadian labour market;declining real wages; younger and older workers; lowwages contribute to poverty; seasonal nature oftourism, agriculture and fisheries; youth employmentwill go up if there is a differential wage; CanadianCentre for Policy Alternatives; differential wages inother provinces; Stats Canada; market study; two-tiered minimum wage structure; Federation ofLabour; injuries for young workers higher than otherworkers; training wages; International LabourOrganization; apprenticeship programs; encouragingimmigration to the province; immigrantsdiscriminated against; Charlottetown Chamber ofCommerce brief; real wages fallen behind; minimumwage fallen behind; anchoring effect; depend on EIfor part of income; poverty reduction strategies;living wage; working poor; food bank survey; debtloads for students; tips are unreliable; income gapgrowing on PEI; CFIB opposing February holiday;

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PEI depends on tourism; labour standards; PEI needsto adopt poverty reduction strategy; OECD studies;Canadian Labour Congress committee; higherminimum wage could result in less staff turnover;Cavendish Music Festival; Tourism IndustryAssociation; more employees pay closer to minimumwage than most provinces do; fair wages; rural versusurban; Summerside Chamber of Commerce; NewBrunswick and Newfoundland going to $10 an hourminimum wage; liveable income that’s legislated;Thom Workman professor at UNB; mature studentsat UPEI; debt loads far larger now than in the past;wages for students working at UPEI not high enough;Employment Standards Review; province has few statholidays; Jack Frost Festival; taxation system;RRSPs; tax system very unfair; Canada pension lowcompared to OECD countries174-185

CHRISTOPHER, ANNE (CIA)Cost of living going up; slave labour; train employeeto do the right job; probation period; incentive thatwages will get better; no tax breaks; minimum wage;tips for good service; sharing of tips; working poor;stress on families; bullying, discrimination anddisrespect; workers should get benefits at work;should raise minimum wage130-133

CLARK, TODD (DIRECTOR OF BUSINESSDEVELOPMENT, BELL ALIANT) (FTRD)Rural broadband on PEI; delivery of; amount of workand effort; massive project; four phases to deliverproject; improved technologies; new switches; fibreoptics; point to point feed; alternative technologies;last year recessionary period; money intoinfrastructure; connecting homes on a daily basis;cellular wireless technology; HSPA-plus network;3.75G technology; cost-model for turbo stick;positive project for government and Aliant; TurboStick; targeting civic addresses8-12

COLES, DOUG (GREATERCHARLOTTETOWN AREA OF CHAMBER OFCOMMERCE) (CIA)Past President of Greater Charlottetown Area ofCommerce; wage rate is of great importance; in 2009minimum wage increased twice on the Island; CPIremained static; government contemplating a $10minimum wage by 2011; two-tiered minimum wagesystem; training wage; inexperienced worker wage;experience worker rate; three-tiered minimum wage

structure; Chamber members would like to knowwage six months in advance; cut back number ofhours or employees99-103

COLLIER, BARRY (DEVA FORESTRYSERVICES LTD.) (AEEF)Former contractor and woodlot owner; silvicultureindustry; plantation on Graham’s Road in PrinceCounty; commercial thinning; thinning doublesamount of wood per acre that’s produced; spruce hascooling effect; planting of plantations; bird nests inplantations; softwood producing place for birds; nowildlife in hardwood stands in winter; US ForestryService; benefits of planting hedgerows; trees in citysave government money; reduction of wind andcooling in summer; enhance forest and increaseamount of carbon; thinning trees out produces morecarbon; money for silviculture work84; 88-92

CONWAY, RYAN (Research Officer)Agenda, planning (AEEF), 45; 82Boards receive submissions regarding two-tier (CIA),30Canadian Restaurant and Foodservices Association(CIA), 31Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives (CIA), 31Christian Labour Association of Canada (CIA), 32Crop insurance (AEEF), 45Foodpak project update (AEEF), 45Jurisdictions In Canada have different levels of minimum wage(CIA), 3-4 Not discussing concept of two-tier wage system(CIA), 30Labour Standards (CIA), 30Low Income Cut-Off (CIA), 31-31Minimum Wage Order (CIA), 31Newfoundland has a proposal that would seeminimum wage increase and decrease (CIA), 30 Nova Scotia differentiates in minimum wage forinexperienced workers (CIA), 31Proposal criticized (CIA), 30-31Tip differential be introduced (CIA), 32Tip differentials (CIA), 32Training wage (CIA), 32

CRANE, OLIVE (Morell-Mermaid)Accessibility to senior drug plan (HSDS), 18Agenda, planning (HSDS), 7-8; 55

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Amendment for sick days (CIA), 169-170Ask department to use a gender-based analysis (CIA),17Availability of low-income units for tenants (HSDS),37Average age of UPEI and Holland College students(CIA), 182 Businesses supporting training allowance (CIA), 108Change in policy (CIA), 16Cut off for taxable income (CIA), 85Differential wage rates within rural PEI (CIA), 17;139Employment standards Act sick days (CIA), 166; 169Fuel used in farm-plated trucks (AEEF), 135Guaranteed annual income (HSDS), 54Health benefits to employees (CIA), 166Help for farmers to stay farming (AEEF), 134IIDI Administering program on behalf of federalgovernment (PA), 23 Annual report by ArsenaultBestCameronEllis (PA),25 Role to meet requirements to attract and keepimmigrants here (PA), 23 Staff responsible for immigrants to understanddetails (PA), 17Immigrant (PA) Investor’s responsibility, 7 People act as an director, 15 Upset when being interviewed, 18Increasing personal tax exemption at provincial level(CIA), 169; 184; 187Invitation for Holland College, UPEI and schools toattend meetings (CIA), 34Issue of two-tier minimum wage (CIA), 80-81; 85Letter to Heidi Smith from the minister (PA), 15Liability opinion about the province (PA), 7Looking for change in policy (CIA), 16Major issues around liability for province (PA), 6Make Sure immigrants coming to PEI knew what theywere signing up for (PA), 23 Up of chamber in O’Leary (CIA), 157Motion re: Committee ask for opinion on CAA board onindependence of firm (PA), 29-30 Recommendations presented by human rightscommissioner (HSDS), 4; 5Number of mature students attending university(CIA), 182Opinion on use of proceeds agreement (PA), 36People That are the working poor (CIA), 90-91

With disabilities and housing choices (HSDS), 33People’s perspective on wage rates (CIA), 158Percentage of women living in poverty (HSDS), 27Policy for PEI farmers to stay in agriculture (AEEF),133Poverty reduction strategy (CIA), 30Poverty reduction strategy (HSDS), 26Program full of all kinds of mismanagement (PA), 7-8; 12Programs and services for seniors (HSDS), 20Provincial tax exemption (CIA), 93; 116Receiving Of PNP units while being a program officer (PA),11 Training without affecting income (HSDS), 27Recommendation re: Treasury Board conflict ofinterest guidelines (PA), 3Review of Motions at next meeting (PA), 5 Social assistance caseloads (CIA), 32Sick day after five years of work (CIA), 183Situation of agriculture on PEI (AEEF), 134; 135Social justice model (HSDS), 38Statistics on minimum wage workers (CIA), 88-89Tabling of motions (PA), 4Take Your MLA to School (CIA), 80Three-day visiting visa to receive info and look atschool system (PA), 18Three months to be used as a training wage (CIA),137; 159Topics for work plan (HSDS), 6Underage employees working (CIA), 152-154Wage rates for university students employed at UPEI(CIA), 182Wages for people on a casual basis (CIA), 29Witnesses at the federal level (PA), 11Work on committee will help with liability and futureproblems (PA), 8Working Income Tax Benefit for low-income people(HSDS), 47-48

CUDWORTH, TED (CIA)Defend low income workers; people barely makeenough to exist; takes a community to raise a child;implementing bill will create first and second classcitizens; far too few decent paying jobs; effect onthose who want to further their education; low wagesdon’t pay for tuition; Nova Scotia miners had terribletime to survive; fishers and farmers having terribletime; subtract tips from wages; fewer people eat outtoday; fewer tips, less money; Canadian RestaurantAssociation; protect bottom line; plagued byrecession; Gettysburg Address; businesses struggling

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CURRIE, DOUG (Charlottetown-Parkdale)

CURRIE, MIKE (Georgetown-St. Peters)Act changed for two-tiered (CIA), 214-215Agenda, planning (AEEF), 2-8; 82-83 (EI), 1-3 (FTRD), 6-7; 30Blood levels in lobster (FTRD), 38Build up of customer base in community (FTRD), 95Business model to absorb other service providers(FTRD), 28Buy local on PEI (AEEF), 5Closing customer service offices (FTRD), 24Collusion going on in lobster industry (FTRD), 87-88Complaints re: hookups for high-speed (FTRD), 24Concept of fishermen starting a co-op on PEI(FTRD), 87; 88Cost of Insurance to taxpayers (AEEF), 49 Internet and cell service (FTRD), 22Coverage across Island (FTRD), 99Crow situation in Charlottetown considered healthconcern (AEEF), 72-73Difference in price of turbo sticks (FTRD), 98-99DSL Connection in Cardigan (FTRD), 17 Hardwire second-class service (FTRD), 23Environment regulations regarding dredging andwaterfront (AEEF), 8Exetel fibre to enhance infrastructure (FTRD), 21Farmers meeting quality for CFIA (AEEF), 4-5Federal money to connect rural PEI (FTRD), 14-15Financing of processing in seafood industry (FTRD),67; 69Funding if offered, has to be offered to all (FTRD),66Future of farmers on PEI (AEEF), 30; 32Government taking over Internet hookup (FTRD), 98Grains being burned in barley burners (AEEF), 50Growing for genetics or meat (AEEF), 30Handling and poor quality of lobsters (FTRD), 78Hydroelectric at Scales Pond (AEEF), 68Inbreeding to a river versus crossbreeding (AEEF),67-68Infrastructure for municipalities (FTRD), 1Insured acreage (AEEF), 49Inventory of chickens on PEI (AEEF), 16Invitation for President of Island Tel to attend meeting (FTRD),3-4

Processing plants to attend meetings (FTRD), 2 Member from energy team to speak at meeting(AEEF), 2Kobe, Wagyū beef and genetics (AEEF), 30-31Launch of Turbo Stick (FTRD), 15Lobster Industry (FTRD), 3-4 Pricing this season (FTRD), 88Lobster industry in other countries (FTRD), 6Memorandum of Understanding (FTRD), 95Motion-re: Auditor General Name names who made application to PNP (PA), 3 Give names of all family members of MLAs etc.(PA), 4 Brings details back on sections (PA), 4 Do random samples of 10% of PNP files (PA), 4Negotiations for contract (FTRD), 13-14New Hardware needed with HSPA cell network (FTRD),22 Species possibly bringing in diseases (AEEF), 79Provincial ruling on number of flock (AEEF), 12Quality Of lobster (FTRD), 37 Woodlots on PEI (AEEF), 78Quota system for Eggs (AEEF), 13 Meat chickens (AEEF), 12 Turkey (AEEF), 13Quotas to control inventory (FTRD), 46Reduction of traps to bring less product in (FTRD),78Release of trout (AEEF), 69-70Replanting of Boughton Island (AEEF), 81 Trees (AEEF), 81Rotating days (FTRD), 78Routers and booster put in if Turbo Stick don’thandle (FTRD), 20-21Selling of boxed beef (AEEF), 44Service of all areas for high-speed Internet (FTRD),14Settlement services (CIA), 192-193Small hydro generators to borrow water (AEEF), 68-69Spreading of fertilizer on just the row (AEEF), 23Stable pricing system (FTRD), 46Staff in crop insurance section (AEEF), 50-51Striped bass considered threatened species (AEEF),72Switches put in for DSL (FTRD), 23Temporary work visa (CIA), 193Turbo stick equivalent to high-speed (FTRD), 15-17

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Under-capacity in processing industry (FTRD), 66

CURTIS, JOHN (CIA)Young people our greatest asset; workplaces withgood reputation; want pay above minimum wage;labour shortage; family size has shrunken; VanierInstitute of the Family; Canada is signatory of UnitedNations Declaration of Human Rights; quotes fromdeclaration; province cut taxes; average Canadianhousehold debt; Bank of Canada warning interestrates will rise; Goods and Services Tax; no future insuppressing wages; Alberta population increased, PEIpopulation decreased; businesses who want two-tierwage sending wrong message; Constitution ofCanada; legislate wages140-143

DOCHERTY, VALERIE (Kelly’s Cross-Cumberland)Consumer Supported Agriculture (AEEF), 43Control over quality of product being an Island(AEEF), 142-143Costs to train employees (CIA), 199Credit to the horse racing industry (AEEF), 105Culinary Alliance (AEEF), 41-42Difference in income bracket between seniors(HSDS), 15Exporting to other provinces outside Atlantic region(AEEF), 127-128Federal government and regulations (AEEF), 110-111Freezing of land to receive assistance (HSDS),49-50Kind of support from provincial department (AEEF),128Legislated minimum wage (CIA), 199Lifeline and Helpline for seniors (HSDS), 16-17Protection for non-organized staff (CIA), 208Quota system for eggs (AEEF), 12Retailers dictating prices on dollar returned to them(AEEF), 117-118Support for two-tier if staff protected (CIA), 208-209Training Allowance for Future Farmer Program (AEEF), 33 Wages (CIA), 199Transit system from Charlottetown to Summerside(HSDS), 16Types of crops, annuals or perennials (AEEF), 98Virus levels of potatoes on rise (AEEF), 143Young farmers becoming member of association(AEEF), 32

DOUCETTE, ROY (DEPARTMENT OFCOMMUNITY SERVICES, SENIORS ANDLABOUR) (CIA)

Two-tiered wage system; bill given Royal Assent; billnot proclaimed; Employer Coalition; other provinceshave enabling legislation; Employment StandardsBoard; camp councillors; Atlantic minimum wageand increase; Executive Council; wages in otherprovinces; recommendations given to government inSeptember 2006; PEI Federation of Labour; reducedwork week; more benefits to workforce; ruraldevelopment issue; improving quality of life forwomen; balanced approach7-8; 11-19

DOUGHTY, ALICE (CIA)Accounting student at Holland College; disagree withmultilevel wage; new workers inexperienced; youngpeople do jobs that they don’t get paid for; separateGST and PST; high level of poverty on PEI; impacton economy; majority of servers only paid minimumwage; Island suffering from shortage of entry levelworkers; intention to entice new workers into PEIworkforce; personal exemption for federal; changeson Island should be gradual; seniors and tips; multi-tier level minimum wage83-86

DUGAY, KEVIN (MISCOUCHECONVENIENCE STORE) (CIA)Miscouche Convenience store; good system ifimplemented in a proper way; day shift; staffmembers have evenings; cutting of staff hours andshifts; don’t want to increase prices; open 365 days ayear; freeze minimum wage; working student;spending money; skilled labour; two-tiered systemworks well in other provinces124-126

DUMVILLE, BUSH (West Royalty-Springvale)Affordable housing for social assistance clients (HSDS), 39Agenda, planning (EI), 2 (FTRD), 6-7Apply for funding for tree planting (AEEF), 91Atlantic Beef Products hopeful for future (AEEF),119Committee name change (FTRD), 1; (EI), 2Cost inputs into cattle industry (AEEF), 141Difference in income bracket between seniors(HSDS), 18-19Farm gate pricing (AEEF), 113-114Feed crops versus new industrial crops (AEEF), 140HST and farmers and general public (AEEF), 140Income tax splitting for seniors (HSDS), 19

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National chain negotiating (AEEF), 114 Prices compared to Aliant (FTRD), 99Transportation for seniors (HSDS), 19-20

DUNPHY, PATRICK (PEI YOUNG FARMERS)(AEEF)Tremendous benefit combining GST and PST for thefarmer; a decrease in sales tax they pay; farmer wouldbe eligible for transition credit up to $1,000; burningof marked diesel in farm trucks; Land Holdings LimitReview; non-tillable land; AGM ; land holding limitsreview; booth at potato technology; allowances fortraining28; 29-30; 32-33

DUNSFORD, CYNTHIA (Stratford-Kinlock)Agenda, planning (EI), 1-3Canadians working at or below minimum wage(CIA), 42Classified position and probation period (CIA), 26-27Coffee shop employees receiving tips (CIA), 45-46Consultations held in 2006 re: wages (CIA), 15Differential wage System discussed at CIA meeting (CIA), 10 Could be seen as discriminatory (CIA), 27Discrimination case based on charter (CIA), 60Dispose of property before qualifying for assistance(HSDS), 48Disrespect based on wages (CIA), 24Eastern School District rezoning issues (EI), 1-2Food banks (CIA), 67Freezing of land to receive assistance (HSDS), 49Majority were women presenters (CIA), 18No income tax for students (CIA), 38Other provinces re: two-tier wage system (CIA), 4-5Possibility of minimum wage going lower than it is(CIA), 49Presentation on minimum wage before committee(CIA), 2Salary increase based on age or performance (CIA),62Students Working on commission (CIA), 52 Would like more wages (CIA), 23-24 Complaining to the PSAC (CIA), 23Work plan of CIA meeting (CIA), 10; 11

ENGLAND, ALLISON (AIR TECHCOMMUNICATIONS INC.) (FTRD)Cost of Internet to customers from Aliant; Internetrepair service99-100

ENGLAND, KENT (AIR TECHCOMMUNICATIONS INC.) (FTRD)Air Tech Communications Inc. in Richmond, PEI;family-owned wireless Internet provider; work campsin northern Alberta; Bell Aliant; access for all tohigh-speed is essential; involved in communicationstechnology for 20 years; negative impact on business;sole provider for Internet service in Prince County;purchasing hardware from Brown Brothers’ store inRichmond for installation work; 100% familyfinanced; Prince County expansion project; Islandflyer, Pennysaver; funding agency Canada-PEILabour Market Development Agreement; JuniorAchievement Programs; technical support; appeal toattract Island youth to return home; election promiseto deliver high-speed to all Islanders; upgradesrequired to keep pace with technologicalenvironment; several questions requesting answers;working with limited information; real cost oftelecommunications; quality of service; cost factor ofservice comparable 90-100

ERJAVEC, LUC (CANADIAN RESTAURANTSAND FOODSERVICES ASSOCIATION) (CIA)Vice-President of Canadian Restaurant andFoodservices Association; represent owners andoperators in PEI and across country; minimum wage;negative sales growth; decline in profitability;restaurants have closed; largest industry on theIsland; 20% of youth employees work in thisindustry; giving people first job experience; mostworkers are students or secondary income earner;minimum wage is the base scale; increase in wage isnew cost for food service operators; tough economy;people watching spending; input costs going up;federal and provincial government get more taxmoney; CPP; more money in EI; poverty and workingpoor; tax system; tip differential; liquor server;Labour Standards; self-serve cuts down on jobs;minimum wage earners generally earn tips; workingwithin wage envelope; reduction of hours andclosures when wages go up too fast; challenge foroperators; wage increased in PEI dramatically in lastnumber of years; basic personal exemption; lowincome credit; supported balanced package; morethan one minimum wage recognized reality ofworkplace; kinds of standard different wages; LabourStandards Act; farm workers exempt from MinimumWage Act; high cost of training workers; trainingwage would trigger high youth unemployment rate;freeze minimum wage where it’s at; PEI used to havea student wage; American states have tip

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differentials; tip rates; wage scale; economicrecession; different wage rates and work conditions;very little research done on tipping in Canada;Employment Standards Review Board; public policyshould be based on debate and sound information91-99

FERGUSON, CAROL (CUPE PEI) (CIA)Minimum wage protecting workers who are unable toprotect themselves; legislating for higher wages138-139

FERGUSON, ERIN (CIA)Holland College program; could benefit fromdifferentiated wage system; should be basic minimumamount employees should be paid; Quebecemployees penalized in pay because of anticipation oftips; basic minimum amount should be consideredbecause of cost of living; may not be able to hireexperienced workers for more money63-65

FRENETTE, ED (PRINCE EDWARD ISLANDFISHERMEN’S ASSOCIATION) (FTRD)Lobster harvesting community facing seriousdifficulty; fishing well below cost of production;threat to economic well being; facing onslaught ofregulatory reform from DFO; role of harvesting inindustry; change in harvesting sector of industry; lackof transparency in industry; PEIFA; PEI SeafoodProcessors Association; Lobster Council of Canada;carapace size increase; approached provincialgovernment for support; fair shore price forfishermen; cooperatives and collective bargaining;Lobster Science Centre at UPEI; 50 million annualloss in the lobster industry; number of traps; LFA 24and 25; eco-labeling; show in Brussels and Boston;quality of lobsters; federal dollars for short-termassistance for lobster fishermen in Atlantic region;Competition Bureau; single-desk selling; live holdingfacilities; looking to provincial government forassistance; low-interest loan program; Province ofQuebec, no-interest loan program; optimistic pricesmay increase73-74; 75-82

GALLANT, RICHARD (DEPARTMENT OFFISHERIES, AQUACULTURE AND RURALDEVELOPMENT) (FTRD)Committee meets to coordinate government’srequests; update on marketing initiatives; licenses;US dependent in terms of market; US exchange rate;economic crisis; fishermen face increased costs;

popsicle pack; worldwide recession; Japanese yenaffected income for exporting companies; landingprices lowest since 1991; landings increased 3% in2009 over 2008; shore price down; wholesale pricesdown; food service sales are down in the US;restaurants gone out of business in the US; seafood isa big menu draw; trend towards cooking at home;growth in retail; 1% of PEI lobster goes to China;lobster market initiatives; promotional materialupdated; expanded presentation at the BostonSeafood Show; promotion of lobster with Clancy’sbeer; love of lobster month; Short Term Measuresprogram; Sustainability Measures; four-city lobsterpromotion; China mission; Chef Ray Bear; frozenlobster products; Hans Anderegg from CulinaryInstitute; presentation on Atlantic Canadian lobster;Lobster Council of Canada; long-term marketingstrategy; Atlantic Canada House at the Olympics;Eureka Research; European Seafood Show; lobsterstocks stable last number of years; decrease indemand for luxury products; uncertainty about speedof economic recovery; market recovery could be slowfor luxury products; exchange rate; lobster showsgreat price elasticity; diversification of markets isneeded; live lobster inventory at AVC for NovaScotia live lobster shippers; carapace size; DFOscience want canner lobster to be reproductive sizebefore they’re fished; lobster size to be 72millimeters; marketplace determines the pay;moratorium is in Fisheries Act regulations; agreementwith Ocean Choice; under-capacity in processingindustry; program processors could apply for; analyzeproduct mix; licensing of fish plants in the province;marketing initiatives; licensing of fish processingplants; legal advice57-73

GALLANT, SONNY (Evangeline-Miscouche)Accounting firm looking at PNP in 2003 (PA), 28; 31Age of students when hired (CIA), 128Agenda, planning (CIA), 122-123 (EI), 1 (HSDS), 8Committee name change (EI), 1Cost for farmer for traceability and identification(AEEF), 112Dispose of property before qualifying for assistance(HSDS), 51Motion re: audit of IIDI byArsenaultBestCameronEllis (PA), 34Hardship for businesses if wages go up (CIA), 65Legislated does not mean it’s going to be enacted

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(CIA), 164Length of time spent on training (CIA), 129Loss of money on social assistance when you work(HSDS), 35Minimum wage rate on PEI (CIA), 200; 215 Never mandate to committee to reduce minimumwage (CIA), 139NFU expressing concerns re: low prices to federalminister (AEEF), 112Presentation on minimum wage before committee(CIA), 2Reviewing of Auditor General’s report (PA), 6; 10Supply management in beef industry (AEEF), 113Targeting civic addresses (FTRD), 11Two-tier system somewhat in place (CIA), 164

GARLAND, LEO (ALERT) (HSDS) Housing study done by ALERT; sad conditions somepeople are living in; housing report; governmentmake changes in the House; living conditions in someapartments34; 36-38; 41-42

GHIZ, ROBERT (Charlottetown-Brighton)

GLOVER, ALLAN (AEEF)Third generation family farm; beef plant in Borden;BSE hit in 2003; sold last of breeding stock in 2009;direct marketing beef; growing soybeans and graincorn; environmental issues; new technology; inabilityto get fair return for products; farmers losing money;educate consumers about industry; need full fledgedadvertising promotion to get message to consumer;ads a reminder to consumers where goods areproduced; change buying habits of consumers;retailers be willing to participate in marketing model;Riverview Country Market; advertising on Facebook;selling of boxed meat; provincially inspected; Kobebeef; dealing with Maritime chain stores39-45

GREENAN, GERARD (Summerside-St. Eleanors)Agenda, planning (PA), 38-39Aggressive marketing campaign (AEEF), 42Creation of jobs (FTRD), 12Decision on motion (PA), 31Emphasis of agriculture in classroom (AEEF), 33-34Growing season and areas for crop planting (AEEF),100Healthy snack program (AEEF), 34Informative meeting (AEEF), 38Minimum wage versus training wage (CIA), 55

Motion re: audit of IIDI byArsenaultBestCameronEllis (PA), 34New member on committee (PA), 1People re-entering the workforce (CIA), 73Three training wage system (CIA), 102

GREGAN, OLIN (SEAFOOD PROCESSORSASSOCIATION OF PRINCE EDWARDISLAND) (FTRD)Executive director of PEI Seafood ProcessingAssociation; oyster, mussel and crab processing;Atlantic Lobster Roundtable; trade missions; LobsterCouncil of Canada; long-term marketing strategy forCanadian lobster; joint funding project; carapace size;price stabilization mechanism; MSC certification;five-city tour; Canadian Consulate; two-yearagreement with PEI and NB and ACOA providingmoney for missions to China; FARD and BDI;processing equipment innovation project; clawcracking unit; foreign worker program; processorsneed skilled workers to staff facilities; mainstreampacks; Boston Seafood Show; lobster a celebrationtype food; low prices; luxurious product into acommodity; market product differently; stable pricingsystem; long-term price assurance; Long-TermMarketing Strategy team; lobster in holding not inbest condition; sales at a 10-year low; on live sidesales is by optics; protein levels in lobster has beenup and down; no processors in Yarmouth; threeagreements with PEI Fishermen’s Association; askedto take 50 traps out of the water; inventory on aregular basis; CFFI in Newfoundland; newequipment; foreign workers; interviews of foreignworkers; Maine carved off live trade in Asianmarkets; Maine may becoming MSC-certified; stablepricing system; Red Lobster; Darden’s Restaurant;product development; high lobster prices in othercountries; PEI SPA and FA; catches in Nova Scotiacompared to PEI; Sou’West Nova; industry made upof three people: government, lobster dinner prices inSouth Florida; commoditizing product; inventoriesdown; Canadian dollar; capacity issue; numbers withrespect to landings; quality is a big issue32-57

HAMBLY, KATHY (GREATERCHARLOTTETOWN AREA CHAMBER OFCOMMERCE) (CIA)Tourism put budgets together for this year; employersdon’t know what wage is for 2010; ExecutiveCouncil; inexperience worker wage up to age 18101-102

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HAMMILL, ERIC (PEI SENIOR CITIZENS’FEDERATION) (HSDS)President of PEI Senior Citizens’ Federation; positivechange for seniors; needs of low income seniors;wage differential of male and female seniors;Seniors’ Emergency Home Repair program;subsidizing personal income response systems;Lifeline for seniors; shortage of good housing forseniors; support coming in health through home care;Corpus Sanchez; support of keeping seniors in ownhome; transportation in rural areas; program inKinkora for transportation for seniors; CanadianMedical Society; seniors going without hearing aids;seniors have fundraisers; Rotary Clubs; CanadaPension benefits; senior drug program; pilot projectof transportation; liability insurance; income taxsplitting; income statement for self-employed people;isolated communities; Passport to Employment; needmore coordination and cooperation among groupswith government11-12; 14-22

HARRIS, JILL (CIA)Business Administration at Holland College; wagesystem would be beneficial to employers andemployees; reward experienced workers; equal payfor equal work; experience an element definingminimum wage; Employment Standards Act;employees prohibited from accepting pay less thanminimum; PEI has aging and experience population;youth turned away due to lack of experience; trainingwage in place; model in each province varies;minimum wage level is Canada’s oldest socialpolicies; employees prohibited from accepting payless than minimum; from Stats Canada youngworkers lack job experience or education; two-thirdminimum wage workers are under 25; education ofemployee be regarded as separate entity; investmentin education brings profitable return86-89

HAYES, ANDI (CIA)Issues concerning food industry; tips; pay scales;increase of taxes; employers have to raise prices; 5%of Islanders making minimum wage; inflation;legislate different wages78-79

HENDERSON, ROBERT (O’Leary-Inverness)Acreage underutilized (AEEF), 77Age of hiring for businesses (CIA), 151; 153Agenda, planning (AEEF), 1-2; 82

(CIA), 1-6; 74-76; 122-123; 215-216Bell Aliant has done job in O’Leary (FTRD), 12Cattle price on PEI based on Ontario price (AEEF),146-147Chamber of Commerce brief organization on changes(CIA), 166Clerk to send letters to high schools (CIA), 34-35Committee will be making recommendations toLegislature (CIA), 165Communication issues (AEEF), 57; 58Consultations from PEI Women’s Network andStatus of Women (CIA), 17Cost of insurance to farmer (AEEF), 57Crop insurance not responsive enough to deal withrisks (AEEF), 52Different Minimum wages based on experience, etc. (CIA),139 Provinces have different wage rates (CIA), 155;156 Rates for different jobs (CIA), 206; 208 Wages for different ages (CIA), 151Employer determines raise of employee (CIA), 68;72; 181Employment Standards Act, wrongful dismissal orhuman rights (CIA), 206-207Employment Standards Board re: Minimum wage set base rate (CIA), 161-162; 168 Review of wages (CIA), 18; 101-102Enhancing cellular service across PEI (FTRD), 21Experienced person may be making more wages(CIA), 90Federation of Agriculture and buffer zones (AEEF),132Field insurance program (AEEF), 52Focus more on biomass than sawlog industry(AEEF), 77Forestry arrangements differences (AEEF), 77Gravity defined as a claimable peril (AEEF), 55-56Government Authority to do a different minimum wage (CIA),114 Implement different levels of minimum wage(CIA), 145HST and farmers and general public (AEEF), 131Immigrants and refugees are all newcomers (CIA),193Income tax exemption (CIA), 46-47Insurance on a per farm basis or commodity base(AEEF), 131Issues on crop insurance (AEEF), 1Lack of farmers participating in insurance coverage(AEEF), 51

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Leaving wage increase to discretion of employer(CIA), 138Legislate wage Or leave it to employer (CIA), 79; 86; 90; 161 Increase after one year (CIA), 138Legislation of a second minimum wage re: experienceetc. (CIA), 50; 54Length of complaints (HSDS), 4Liveable income of a student is lower (CIA), 72-73Meeting with New Brunswick and Nova Scotia(AEEF), 129Minimum wage Increase and cut expenses (CIA), 124 Is set, employer has to pay (CIA), 86 Raise and cost of living (CIA), 172 Suggestion for profession (CIA), 168-169Money into habitat restoration (AEEF), 70More biodiversity in planting trees (AEEF), 76-77No difference of wage currently implemented (CIA),7Nothing said about lowering minimum wage (CIA),186Nova Scotia Federation of labour re: two-tiered wage (CIA), 200 Own their own beef processing plant (AEEF), 130Number of commissioners (HSDS), 5Policies to encourage landowners to be moreeffective for replanting (AEEF), 78Population density and wages (CIA), 82-83Processors not capable of providing flexibility to helpout (AEEF), 53-54Protection for dismissal under human rights (CIA), 49Protocols to join union (CIA), 147Public have input before act is proclaimed (CIA), 8Rate of minimum wage be decided by employer(CIA), 194; 195; 207Recommendations from Employment Standards Act(CIA), 14Red meat strategy issue (AEEF), 146Replanting of trees (AEEF),76; 79; 80Review of request by previous minister (CIA), 9Routers and booster put in if Turbo Stick don’thandle (FTRD), 18Similar legislation in other provinces (CIA), 117Storage insurance and how it works (AEEF), 53Tips considered wage or earning (CIA), 51-52; 59;80; 81Toll-free number re: committee meeting interest(CIA), 77; 81Two-tier Versus differential (CIA), 14; 19 Wage system (CIA), 39-40; 63Touring of farms in western PEI (AEEF), 1

Two provinces, liquor servers receive different wage(CIA), 168Wage Of employees based on skill set etc. (CIA), 64 Rates for students (CIA), 129; 158Working at minimum wage rate (CIA), 42; 57

HORNE, KEVIN (CIA)2007 Hunger Count report; 23.7% employed workersat food bank; Island’s minimum wage doe not allowmany working Islanders to meet needs; many foodbank users only earn minimum wage; high oil prices;employment standards laws; minimum wage rights;Charter of Rights and Freedoms prohibitsdiscrimination on basis of age; understood two-tieredminimum wage was dropping; standard of livingwage; Hunger Food Facts; Jobs for Youth; subsidizeemployee wages with program; not everyonequalified for funding through Jobs for Youth; basicpersonal tax exemption65-68

HOWATT, BRUCE (VICE-PRESIDENT FORPEI, BELL ALIANT) (FTRD)Massive project; large employee base; high-speedavailable across province; confusion from customers;Phase four; wireline and wireless; build phase ofproject; innovation fund; extension of contracts;development agreement; extension of telephonecontract; building of broadband network;establishment of innovation fund; monitoringcommittee to evaluate installation; augmentationwork to do; Bell Mobility; Turbo Stick as mobilewireless solution; EVDO Turbo Stick; wireless equalto DSL line; investing every year in networks acrossPEI; High-Speed Ultra; booster technology;wholesale model; buy network and resell it; price capon wireless solution; fibreoptic cable; standard rates;meeting business needs; bundle for wireless usingTurbo Stick; providing booster and routers; providepriority services to voice communications; Exetelfibre; working to improve cellular service; marketrates; DSL hardwire; customers have high-speedwithout phone line; closing customer service;wireless technologies scanning digital service;wireless network not completely secure; HSPA moresecure than digital; replacement of equipment; workwith customers on a case by case basis12- 29

HOWATT, STEVE (NATURE’S CROPSINTERNATIONAL) (AEEF)General manager of Nature’s Crops International;

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oilseed processing plant in Kensington; ownedsubsidiary of a company out of US called TechnologyCrops International; temperature climate good foroilseeds; PEI BioAlliance; specialists in growingpreserved oilseed products; agriculture on PEI issmall-scale grain-type farms; oleic sunflowers inMidwest US; make hemp oil or borage oil used ininfant formulas or alternative to trans-fats; dietarysupplements like borage; crambe oil called erucicacid; focus on sustainable production system;scalability is important; production on Island fits withexisting grower base; low risk of substitution;potential for development of new crops; agronomiston staff that works with growers to produce a crop;Crop Assured 365, record keeping and traceabilitysystem; expand production; growers made revenue ofcustom harvesting and grain cleaning; riskmanagement; borage honey high value honeyproduct; need trucking companies to move oilaround; research project, Agriculture InnovationFund; hexane used to extract oil; rapeseed ancestor ofcanola; high yields per acre of crambe; CFIAmonitors fields of oilseed hemp and takes samples;about 50% protein powder; borage crop; calendula(HSDS), calendic acid; meadowfoam, an edible oil;all crops GM-free; seed prices; new crops and landrotation; keep cereals in rotation; planning to go moreorganic; soil types 92-101

JAMIESON, JONATHAN (CIA)Employment Standards Act; fix minimum wage rates;government tends to allow parents to subsidizestudents; statistics from Stats Canada; inexperiencedworker should be paid lower wage; working-poor; notable to support family on minimum wage; inflationrate; tax cuts for poverty line; government benefitsfrom taxes when minimum wage increased; morebreaks for people who have money42-46

JEFFREY, JENNIFER (PEI ASSOCIATION OFNEWCOMERS TO CANADA) (CIA)Coordinate employment program at ANC;employment counsellors; workshop settings; educatedhealth professionals; employment counselingservices; English skills; different wage rates mayhave negative impact on newcomers; EmploymentStandards Act; coming here with a degree and paidless; program has strong relations with localbusinesses; benefits of hiring newcomers; certaingroups of people put into a lower wage; settlementagency; two minimum wages; funded by different

departments; Service Canada, Skills PEI; Citizenshipand Immigration Canada; new funding programs fromSkills PEI; one minimum wage190-191; 192-195

JEWELL, RANDAL (HJV EQUIPMENT)(AEEF)Moved from Michigan; been a John Deere dealer;started new business HJV Equipment; head officeAlliston, Ontario; involved in GPS; reducingchemicals; harvester/windrower design; controltractor and implement hands-free; plant headlands ona curve; coulter system; GPS drives the tractor; six-row hiller; new hitch steered by GPS signal; propattachment to create divots for runoff; GPS added totulip planter and bedder; cutting sod to reduce waste;developed a seven row planter; banding booms onsprayers; hill potatoes interferes with hay crop; hillermounted to planter; weigh scales put on planters;variable rate application of fertilizer; new windrowerreduces amount of dirt being dug; challenge ofharvesting crop; spiral rollers to reduce dirt; reductionin harvest time; new mechanism has capacity to cleanup loads; new harvester for the Island; new holdingtank; optical sorter; belt planter designed for seedgrowers; sprayer for corn spraying; variable ratespread fertilizer and lime to reduce over-fertilizing;reducing costs, fuel and labour inputs; DammerDyker17-25

JOHNSTON, MARIAN (Clerk Assistant andClerk of Committees)Agenda, planning (CIA), 74-75; 121-123; 216 (EI), 1-4 (FTRD), 4; 6-7; 29-31; 82-83 (HSDS), 8 (PA), 39Committee sustain motions previously put forward(PA), 12Definition of new committee name (EI), 3Email from Wayne Phelan re: representative to speakbefore committee (FTRD), 29Employment Standards Act (CIA), 14Land Use Commissions Report course (AEEF), 7Motion re: audit of IIDI byArsenaultBestCameronEllis (PA), 30-31New Public Accounts Committee (PA), 5Nomination Of Chair for committee (HSDS), 9; (EI), 5 For acting Chair (FTRD), 8; 32Notes re: issues for presenting at meetings (EI), 3

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Presentation from Geoff Dubrow (PA), 13-14Public Accounts Committee ask for opinion fromChartered Accountants Board (PA), 30Questions to Auditor General collected fromcommittee (PA), 3Recommendation of reappointment of Chair (HSDS),6-7Re-enforced sound system in meeting room (EI), 1Resource available to Public Accounts Committee onbest practices (PA), 39Responses to ads (CIA), 33; 34Sound system in meeting room 1,(EI); 1, (CIA) Unanimous consent to withdraw motion as debate hasstarted (PA), 33; 34Update on Boston Seafood Show (FTRD), 84Work plan for committee’s approval (CIA), 3; 5Written presentations from the public (CIA), 216

KEEFE, MELISSA (Committee Clerk)

KEENAN, ALVIN (PEI FEDERATION OFAGRICULTURE) (AEEF)Information to show we could have future inagriculture; different sectors of agriculture workdifferently; red meat strategy; rotation of land;runoffs into waterways and brooks; growing potatoes;losing production of food; losing investment intofuture of seed that built this country; infrastructurefalling apart; wind energy; Asure Program; producersare suffering; potatoes have to be labeled product oforigin; Canadian Horticulture Council; economicscontrolling production; canola not new to PEI; onlyhave measurement on potatoes; Potato boardestablished in1952; seed potatoes; processing andtable varieties; buy local; status quo135; 139-140; 143-144; 147

KELLY, RON (ISLAND NEW DEMOCRATS)(CIA)Amendments to act passed by Legislature; notproclaimed; former minister agreed to delay changes;reference on Chamber of Commerce website214-215

LAMBE, KEITH (REGIONAL MANAGER,BELL ALIANT) (FTRD)Capacity built; equipment and delivery time;approved area and customer26-27; 29

LANE, JOHN (WEST PRINCE CHAMBER OFCOMMERCE) (CIA)Past president of West Prince Chamber of

Commerce; 90 independent businesses in WestPrince; organization against thought of two-tieredminimum wage; minimum wage shouldn’t beconsidered a fair wage; big businesses trying to savea few dollars; main issue is attracting good qualifiedworkers and keeping them; two-tier form ofdiscrimination; bigger jurisdictions going with two-tier; need quality servers to uphold standards; moretime training and supervising inexperienced workers;definition of inexperienced; proof of hours workedsomewhere else; if it’s legislated it has to be policed;chamber members; student loan programs; funds touniversities and colleges are growing at a rate; cost ofeducation; basic personal exemption on income tax;provincial income tax; very little training orientation;Resources West; wages for waiters and waitresses;hospitality industry is seasonal; survey done; paidbased on experience and inexperience; EmploymentStandards Board; government classifications; raisePEI basic exemption; wage rate set same as theMLAs’ wage rate; lower income tax rates on lowerincome tax levels; Charlottetown Chamber ofCommerce; conflict of interest if in the business ofhiring people and on committee; 5% to 7%population making minimum wage155-166

LEA, JUDY (CIA)Few would have advantage by having differentiatedsystem; large corporate businesses would save moneyon extra payroll tax; young people having lowerwages will leave the Island in favour of better wages;tips don’t just go to the server; Jobs for Youthprogram; firmly against two-tiered wage system;change would only benefit businesses; amendment ofact are quite broad; if proclaimed, could discouragenewcomers66-67

LECLAIR, NEIL (Tignish-Palmer Road)

LEFURGEY, LLOYD (PEI PEOPLE FIRST)(HSDS)Group where people with disabilities speak up; maingoals of PEI People First; lack of employment; SocialAssistance Act; more than 60% of people on socialassistance have disabilities; amount of money forfood and rent not enough; more money needed fortransportation; should be coverage for dentalcheckup; prescription medication coverage;discouraged from getting a job; some people on socialassistance live in community care facilities; Canadaratified UN Convention of the Rights of Persons with

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Disabilities; changes in the act; people have right toinformation about services and programs; have theright to good medical care; level of support needs tobe increased; cost of living; story frm Eleanor Kelly;people in facilities for less than minimum wage;everyone should be treated fairly; jobs at Tremployand Harbourview; working and not losing money;younger people living in manors; programs for peopleto get integrated into community27-33

LING, EDITH (NATIONAL FARMERS UNION)(AEEF)Beef problems in beef industry; Safeguarding aVibrant, Wealth-Generating Cattle Sector for PEI;2003 discovery of BSE; finished market-ready cattleprices down since BSE; PEI cattle producers havingdevastating losses; cattle and feed grain productionimportant part of agriculture system; crop rotations;cattle crisis far from insoluble; government shouldcome to aid of farmers; report done on farm crisis andcattle sector by NFU; if production is diminished wemay lose Atlantic Beef Products; challenges and costsof supporting beef plant; hog and pork industrydisintegrating; closure of plants leads to lower prices;hog production east of Quebec likely to cease;Garden Province Meats; crisis in cattle industry isnational; recommendations made by NFU; cattleindustry worth a lot to the Island; money for farmersin Saskatchewan; price of market hog in retail stores;ask Department of Agriculture for help 106-110; 112; 118; 121

LIVINGSTONE, WANDA (CUPE LOCAL 1779)(CIA)Representing CUPE Local 1051; president of PEIHealth Council; treasurer of Community HospitalLadies Auxiliary; Employment Standards Act; operateNew to You shop in O’Leary; two-tier bad deal forworking poor; low wage will become common wage;most minimum wage people are women; volunteersthrough the winter; minimum wage should be $10 anhour; problems all stem around money; base rateshould be higher; jobs on PEI are seasonal; people onPEI depend on EI because of no jobs171-173

LOO, RAYMOND (AEEF)Limit the size of laying hen flocks; canvassed feedmills; H5N1; feed mills depend on poultry feed;supply management; hen quota; quota system; marketmanagement system; every province has own rules;sales impacting feed stores; demand for free-range;

eliminate ability to be organic if no outdoor flocks;elimination of turkeys; no commercial operation with49 hens; smaller operations limit risk to flu; eachprovince sets own numbers; large egg producersproposing changes; quota for meat and eggproducers; eggs leaving PEI to be processed; letterpresented to council; market increasing in themarketplace; demand for organic eggs; organic eggscoming from Ontario to supply market; percentage ofmarket small flocks are filling; required to refrigerateeggs; quotas increased by market growth; meatchickens or hens affected by same flu virus 9-17

LUTWICK, KRISTOPHER (CIA)Wages having to do with tips; wage system;supporting on minimum wage; legislated thatemployer is told what to pay; inexperienced versusexperienced; turnover rate is great with part-timeemployees; should be probationary period ifemployee doing bad job89-91

MACFARLANE, ROSIE (DEPARTMENT OFENVIRONMENT, ENERGY AND FORESTRY)(AEEF)Freshwater fisheries biologist; stocking of fish forsport fishery; Dunk River Hatchery; Cardigan FishHatchery; Dover Fish Hatchery; native run ofAtlantic salmon; habitat degradation; semi-naturalrearing; Profitt’s Pond; interest in fly fishing andsalmon fishing has escalated; 1000 salmon anglers;Morell River primary river for salmon; stocking offall fingerlings; Ecological Goods and Servicesprogram; ALUS; digger logs; electrofishing; reddsurveys; book trout stocking; stocking of estuaries;tagging of fish and reward offered; brook trout usedfor restocking after a fish kill; urban fishing; averageage of an angler is male and 45; rainbow troutstocked at O’Keefe’s and Glenfinnan Lake; fishingeconomic importance to PEI; angling licensesdecreased drastically; habitat restoration;Recreational Fisheries Advisory Committee;provincial recreational fisheries policy in progress;hatchery problem inconsistent funding; WildlifeConservation Fund; mercury in O’Keefe Lake;watersheds; sediment in rivers; hit with fish kills;sediment and pesticides; fish adapt to conditions inthe rivers; timing of fish eggs to hatch; cost estimatesin terms of restoring at Scales Pond; micro-hydrodevelopment; environmental impact; introductionsand transfers permit; competitor with Atlantic salmonfor habitat; habitat restoration; brook trout number

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one fish on PEI; stocking program; catch fish formercury analysis; children fishing; striped bassconsidered threatened; breed in Miramichi61-72

MACKAY, MARGARET (CIA)Employed by a union employer; issues would makelegislation useless; short-term employment with highwages re: people don’t want to return to work; lot ofemployees working two to three jobs; surviving onminimum wage; child labour; maximum wage isgoing to be PEI’s minimum wage; training methods;employer paying lower than minimum wage, willboycott that business; age of hiring for businesses;Labour Act; against two-tier minimum wage system;Income Tax Act; tips are wages; health and safetyconcern; labour issues; child welfare act 149-153

MACKAY, SANDY (CIA)President of Federation of Labour; Union of PublicSector of Employees; wages in 1969; register ongovernment website; hearings be heard on researchon minimum wage; any changes have to have publicinput; minimum wage lowest rate an employer canpay; 7.5% rollback in 1995; unions negotiate whatjob is worth; unions negotiate what job is worth; ratesacross Atlantic region; minimum wage should beminimum; should be able to join union without fearof being fired; Labour Relations Board; legislationunder Labour Act; name change of committee144-149

MACKIE, CRAIG (PEI ASSOCIATION OFNEWCOMERS TO CANADA) (CIA)Executive director of PEI Association for Newcomersto Canada; settlement services; social inclusion;integration programs; form in 1993; delivery ofprograms and services; Global Jam; fundraiser;overview; multi-tiered minimum wage; growingimmigrant population on PEI; Provincial NomineeProgram; settlement services; permanent resident orCanadian citizen; temporary work visa; some fundedby province and Health Canada; InternationalEducated Health Professional Initiative; amendmentre: minimum wage189-190; 191-195

MACKINLEY, RON (Cornwall-Meadowbank)

MACLEAN, SARAH (CIA)Differentiate by job class; comparison of waitress in adiner to waitress in high-end restaurant; tips depend

on quality of service and customer preference; wagesset up at minimum wage because of tips;differentiated wage system will lead to resentful classof workers; lower and higher level employees; createa higher turnover rate; government should considerraising minimum wage; should raise personal taxcredit for individuals58-59; 60

MACNEILL, EMILY (CIA)Young people gain experience also by participating ingroups; PEI is unique; should not change system justto be comparable to other provinces; minimum wagegoes up so does taxable income; basic personalexemption; idea of tips affecting wages; tips are giftsand cannot be controlled; no guarantee a serviceprovider will not receive a tip; multi-level wagesystem would do more harm than good83-85

MACNEIL, MARY (PUBLIC SERVICEALLIANCE OF CANADA) (CIA)Public Service Alliance of Canada; lots of work inconsulates and embassies; major cuts to federalgovernment; hiring of a lot more student workers; alot of jobs dependent on minimum wage; TransitionHouse workers; First Nation employees; somestudents treated disrespectfully; lot of labourlegislation does not cover students; lawsuit againstfederal government on how students are treated;equal pay for equal work; society treated differently;commissionaires unionized; involved with healthcoalition; poverty eradication; helping students;federal government have no legislation; PublicService Labour Relations Act; student program forfederal government versus federal governmentemployee re: wages; disrespect based on wages;contract workers disrespected; employers usingstudents as full-time employees; accidents becausestudents are not trained properly; equal pay and equalrights for students; regional differentiation; TreasuryBoard; teacher assistants at UPEI; collectiveagreement; term employees; contract workers areminimum wage workers 20-30

MACPHAIL, MEGHAN (CIA)Student Holland College Retail Business Program;differential wage issue; paid based on experienceand/or education77-79

MACPHEE, EMILY-GRACE (CIA)

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Holland College student; minimum wage system notas fair as it could be; BC employees in trainingreceive lower wage that experienced; have to work500 hours for wage to increase; amount of hourswould not be acceptable re: have to work an entireyear; a tip, wage or earnings50-52

MACQUARRIE, KATE (DEPARTMENT OFENVIRONMENT, ENERGY AND FORESTRY)(AEEF)Potential funding for hatchery; government notinterested in stocking for recreational fishery;restoring options at Scales Pond; micro-hydrodevelopment; health concerns; private lands program;enhance forest quality on PEI; PEI has potential togrow high quality forests; achievement is to improvequality of forests; number of goals; increasing forestrestoration; most forests on PEI are privately owned;Forest Enhancement; private woodlot owner program;Greening Spaces; Hedgerow program designed forlandowners, not woodlot owners; costs are varied;trees, shrubs etc. are provided; landowners can plantown hedgerows; provincial forest policy; booked upfor Hedgerows for 2010; seedlings won’t survive insome field sites; softwood harvest on PEI decreasedby 90% in the past decade; need to be doing morebiodiversity; climate change; planting looking forquality and biomass looking for quantity; value-addedmanufacturers on PEI; handling that is needed forwood; Atlantic Woods Specialties Association;working on quality; Willow Biomass Project;planting trees improving landscape; potential in non-timber forest products; numbers of seedlings grown;harvest area gone down; good growing conditions;New Zealand backed off program; deforestedlandscape; management plan of replanting ofBoughton Island 66-69; 73-82

MARTELL, DANIEL (CIA)Differentiated wage system; inexperienced workerwould received different minimum wage; way foremployer to get cheaper labour; two people doing thesame kind of work receiving different wages;Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms; studentsas capable as an adult to do the job; payingindividuals different wage if they work in an industrythat receives tips; tourism season May to Septembercontributes to tips; PEI should remain with oneminimum wage55-56

MCCRAE, GILLIAN (CIA)Holland College program; wage differentiation; issueof wage differentiation is seemingly unclear topublic; affected with wage differentiation duringcareer in Ontario; one flat minimum wage in theprovince; would have an effect on small business andtaxpayers; three month probationary period isstandard practice; performance reviews; student wageis fair up to age 18; employers have additionalresponsibilities; five years as an employer inrestaurant business in Ontario; three differentminimum wages; wage differentiation did not sparkconflict within workplace; liquor servers’ grossincome supplemented through gratuities; equal workand equal pay; value performance; small businessesrepresent 90% of businesses across province;entrepreneurs value and appreciate good work; savingon taxes they can increase wages; reviewing ofminimum wage yearly; giving raise based onperformance; businesses not going to hire students tosave money; a lot of minimum wage positions arelabel or task-orientated; sold business60-63

MCGEOGHEGAN, CHARLIE (Belfast-MurrayRiver)Agenda, planning (AEEF), 6-8 (FTRD), 30-31Attendance of Boston Seafood Show (FTRD), 85Auditor General not changing recommendations(PA), 9-10 Bake egg producers (AEEF), 13Bundle for wireless customers with Turbo Stick(FTRD), 20Canned lobster on PEI (FTRD), 48Capacity in processing (FTRD), 55Cell phones work with HSPA (FTRD), 25Chefs in China trained to cook North Americanlobster (FTRD), 89China does not have lobster (FTRD), 86Collusion going on in lobster industry (FTRD), 87-88Comparison of lobster prices in the world (FTRD),48-49Competition Bureau re: price fixing (FTRD), 81Concept of fishermen starting a co-op on PEI(FTRD), 88Contract Comparable in amount (FTRD), 97 Not signed with former government (FTRD), 20Demand and interest of buying lobster was high(FTRD), 87Difference of payment price for fishermen (FTRD),

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86DFO short-term measures assistance (FTRD), 80-81Federal/provincial and industry contributions(AEEF), 58Female lobster meeting maturity before caught(FTRD), 70Fishermen’s livelihood threatened (FTRD), 49Fishing in Sou’West Nova (FTRD), 39Forestry replanting and hedgerows (AEEF), 7Funding for restocking fish (AEEF), 66Higher shore price for lobster (FTRD), 49-50Hilling of potatoes (AEEF), 23; 24Holding back of lobster traps (FTRD), 77HSPA more secure than digital (FTRD), 25Insurance paid on lack of sale (AEEF), 58Insured acreage (AEEF), 58Invitation for Processing plants to attend meetings (FTRD), 5 Minister of Fisheries to attend meeting (FTRD),5Legal liability for back taxes on bankrupt company(PA), 24Live sales Down in the United States (FTRD), 38 In Nova Scotia (FTRD), 47Lobster one of PEI’s primary industry (FTRD), 86Mercury in O’Keef Lake (AEEF), 66New marketing strategy for lobster industry (FTRD),5Nova Scotia lobster goes mostly to live markets(FTRD), 87One-desk selling (FTRD), 81Oyster industry (FTRD), 3Payouts of insurance (AEEF), 58PEI supplies 80% of world market of types of lobster(FTRD), 86 Phone contract with Aliant not tendered (FTRD), 96Price of lobster on PEI versus Nova Scotia (FTRD),50-51Processors got millions out of government (FTRD),88Reduction In cost of spraying (AEEF), 24 Of traps to bring less product in (FTRD), 56; 77Release of the Auditor General’s report (PA), 9; 10Report by John Sackton and IntraFish Media(FTRD), 38Restaurants never lowered prices for lobster (FTRD),47Reviewing of Auditor General’s report (PA), 9Seafood From the world marketed at Boston Seafood Show(FTRD), 89 Number one in China (FTRD), 89

Seven intermediaries in place were picked by formergovernment (PA), 31Scanning of cell phones (FTRD), 25Shore price to fishermen and exports (FTRD), 67 Status of follow-up with immigrants (PA), 24Switching over to DSL from EVDO stick (FTRD), 28Tags on fish for reward to anglers (AEEF), 66Trade missions (FTRD), 77Turbo sticks a deal between Aliant and customer(FTRD), 97Two turbo sticks, HSPA and EVDO (FTRD), 22

MCGEOGHEGAN, MIKE (PRINCE EDWARDISLAND FISHERMEN’S ASSOCIATION)(FTRD)Northumberland Strait fishery; expenses of a seasonfor fishing; millions spent on marketing; shore prices;open boat years ago; get some clarity in the industry;quality; living on wife’s pay cheque; lot of problemssince Fixed Link went in; trap reduction; lobster hasto have 10% meat content to make it Canadianproduct; stabilized price; younger fishermen in theindustry; moratorium on lobster processors should belifted; south side catch 90% market lobsters; high-grading of lobsters; selling to mainland; price fixing 74-75; 76-82

MCGRATH-GAUDET, ERIN (CANADIANFEDERATION OF INDEPENDENT BUSINESS)(CIA)CFIB; small and medium sized businesses on PEI;survey data; CFIB is non-partisan; funded bymembers; context around minimum wage policy;focus on differentiated wage systems; small businessowners supportive of minimum wage; minimum wagemore of a social policy instead of labour policy;Statistics Canada data; most minimum wage earnersare inexperienced; poverty reduction strategies;minimum wage increasing faster than inflation; taxsystem and BPE; growth and revenue; reduced profitsis impact that comes from raising minimum wage; useof technology to replace labour; regulated in terms ofprices; labour being a large cost and is growing withminimum wage; only 29% of businesses payminimum wage; a third of businesses said notimpacted by minimum wage; how membersdetermine wages; base level; members in support of atraining wage; inexperienced workers more likely tomake minimum wage; mandatory raises; gratuitywage; hospitality industry; members exercisingability to pay more103-110

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MCGUIRE, DAVE (DEPARTMENT OFFISHERIES, AQUACULTURE AND RURALDEVELOPMENT) (FTRD)China mission; Canadian lobster promotion; statisticsfrom Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada; lower valueproduct61; 62; 68

MCISAAC, ALAN (Vernon River-Stratford)Age range on split and amount of hours (CIA), 51Agenda, planning (AEEF), 1-8; 45-46 (EI), 2ALUS program (AEEF), 133Average range of minimum wage (CIA), 58; 64Buy local campaign (AEEF), 137; 147Carapace size and number of traps (FTRD), 40; 64;65; 76Comparison of trees planted year to year (AEEF), 75Connection between producer and consumer with co-op system (AEEF), 115Cost Needed to run program for farmers (AEEF), 109 Of raising a foal (AEEF), 104Cut a tree, plant a tree (AEEF), 90Dollars to improve trout fishery (AEEF), 70Egg board to appear before committee (AEEF), 2Elimination of poverty (HSDS), 53Employers Hiring and firing (CIA), 48 Not laying off good workers (CIA), 59Farmers using Dammer Dykers (AEEF), 24Fish eggs shocked to render fish sterile (AEEF), 71Fishing days for kids (AEEF), 71; 72Food Pack Project and food security (AEEF), 3; 5 Forestry replanting and hedgerows (AEEF), 7Freezing of land to receive assistance (HSDS), 52Fuel used in farm-plated trucks (AEEF), 145HST and farmers and general public (AEEF), 145Government behind agriculture industry (AEEF), 117Growth hormones in animals (AEEF), 5-6Inspections on farms (AEEF), 15Inventory in the fishing industry (FTRD), 64Knowledge of inventory on a regular basis (FTRD),41; 76Lobster Council of Canada (FTRD), 42 ; 64Long-term plan for agriculture (AEEF), 120Maritime branding and red meat strategy (AEEF),139Meeting with New Brunswick and Nova Scotia(AEEF), 128-129Middle dollars need to go in the farmer’s pocket(AEEF), 120

Nomination of Chair (EI), 5-6Participation rate on crop insurance (AEEF), 48Percentage Levels for crop insurance (AEEF), 48 Of market small flocks are filling (AEEF), 14Programs for new crops (AEEF), 59-60Quality of oysters (FTRD), 2-3Quota system for eggs (AEEF), 10-11; 14Rate of recovery in the marketplace (FTRD), 64Recommendation re: Maritime brand idea (AEEF),144Replanting of trees (AEEF), 75Reporting of actual inventory (FTRD), 42Representative from Holland College or UPEI toattend a meeting (EI), 2Restocking of Glenfinnan Lake (AEEF), 71 Rivers, lakes, streams with sport fishery (AEEF), 1 Mussel spat (AEEF), 2-3Sale of breeding stock (AEEF), 104Secondhand goods going to social assistance people(HSDS), 52Selling of boxed beef (AEEF), 42Small flock owners (AEEF), 1; 2Sports fishery (FTRD), 3Standing committee urged to support farmers(AEEF), 138Supply management in Beef industry (AEEF), 113; 116 Dairy industry (AEEF), 119; 120Three provinces have to get together (AEEF), 138Two-tier wage system (CIA), 37-38; 46; 67Value of agriculture industry to PEI (AEEF), 110Wait time for hedgerow planting (AEEF), 75Watershed groups wanting to restock fish (AEEF), 71Young Farmers (AEEF) Meeting, 2-3 On commodity boards, 33

MCTAGUE, NICOLE (CIA)Canadians working below minimum wage; certaingroups face high levels of poverty; percentage ofworkers earning less are women; difficulty making aliving; government helping people through programs;people doing same jobs with no education whilesomeone else has education; students should beoffered better tax breaks; should be more studentloans; cost of living not going down; rent increases;companies should pay people their worth; trainingwages; tips; labour force survey40-42

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Sherwood)Agenda, planning (FTRD), 83Aliant paying own infrastructure cost (FTRD), 96China does not have lobster (FTRD), 89Clancy’s promotion with Moosehead Breweries(FTRD), 68Contact of government officials (FTRD), 95Crab processors in Magdalen Islands (FTRD), 43Invitation for Processing plants to attend meetings (FTRD), 5 President of Island Tel to attend meeting (FTRD), 5Legal advice (FTRD), 73Lobster in hold in inventory (FTRD), 46New technology and high prices (FTRD), 44Process is government subsidized (FTRD), 43Temporary foreign workers program (FTRD), 45Wage subsidy for Magdalen Islands on processinglobster (FTRD), 42-43

MURPHY, PAT (Alberton-Roseville)Acting chair for meeting (FTRD), 32Agenda, planning (FTRD), 7; 30-31; 82-83Committee to ask major groups to answer somequestions (AEEF), 117Cost factor and service comparable (FTRD), 99Employment Standards Act reviewed in 1995 (CIA),18-19Experience of workers (CIA), 88Length of time inexperienced worker classified asinexperienced (CIA), 99; 128Multi-level minimum wage (CIA), 194Number of Membership responded to poll (CIA), 163 Trees planted each year (AEEF), 90Presentation on minimum wage before committee(CIA), 2Reduction in tree planting (AEEF), 91Support agriculture industry on PEI (AEEF), 117Thanks to presenters re: high-speed (FTRD), 28Tips Built into bill in the US (CIA), 85-86 Considered wage or earnings (CIA), 85

MURRAY, MILO (CUPE PEI) (CIA)President of Canadian Union of Pubic Employees;CUPE is Canada’s largest union; PEI represents2,400 employees; against recent amendment toEmployment Standards Act; few forms of protection;changes made in December 2009; CUPE is acommunity union; men and women on PEI cannotafford a wage cut; minimum wage earners will fall

further into poverty; pay lower minimum wage toemployees who earn gratuities; many employees haveno control on tips; service industry workersfinancially vulnerable; training and experience;International Labour Organization; Canadian Centrefor Policy Alternatives; employers providing training;March 8th, International Women’s Day; wages shouldbe based on job done; equal pay for equal value; noevidence increase in minimum wage will lead to joblosses; minimum wage and unemployment rates;higher minimum wage could result in less staffturnover; advantages of higher wages; looking toimprove standard of living; Consumer Price Index;CUPE opposes two-tiered minimum wage; minimaltraining and supervision; equal work for equal value134-140

NABUURS, MIKE (PEI FEDERATION OFAGRICULTURE) (AEEF)Future of agriculture bleak; solution available to helpagriculture; competitive policy for food production;policy needs immediate revision; not be reliant onimports for our food; imported beef and pork; buy-local campaigns; strategy to sustain red meat sector inthe Maritimes; feed grain strategy; dairy and potatoindustry struggling; food security for the region;leadership component of achievement; federal policy;Canadian Food Inspection Agency; primaryindustries at stake; safety net programming; marginsin red meat sector declining rapidly; AgriStability;Hog Farm Transition Program; provincial policy;farmers at a significant tax disadvantage; taxable fuelin farm plated trucks; HST; energy production; netbilling and feed-in tarriffs; PEI has highest electricityrates; better energy policy for farmers; commodity-based production province; economists predict futurefor agriculture is bright; help needs to arrive soon;ARSA in Quebec; PEI exports huge amount ofproduct; HST; farmers reinvesting in farms; bufferzones should be managed accordingly; different typesof land on PEI; ALUS program; farmers don’tunderstand ALUS program; portion of money fromgovernment goes into agriculture; programs needrevisions to work effectively; market conditions;energy policy and taxes; Aliments Quebec; PEIexports and produces more potatoes than Atlanticregion can consume; crambe; four-year crop rotation;reduction in potato acreage; common good foragriculture in the region; funding to stabilize inputcosts; business risk management initiatives; ministersin Atlantic region should meet twice a year; go toOttawa with a united voice; Atlantic PremiersCouncil meeting; fuel tax; need changes to PST

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exempt list; vet college; funding between twoprovinces; Quebec brand123-127; 131-133; 138; 140-141; 144-147

NICHOLSON, ANNE (PEI HUMAN RIGHTSCOMMISSION) (HSDS)Acting chair of Human Rights Commission; proposal;law student; length of terms in other provinces;copies of job description; ready for an update; budgetcuts; ne appointees need training; CanadianAssociation of Statutory Human Rights; providingbest service to Islanders; sole commissioner;rearranging of panels; areas considered when makingappointments; independence of commission isimportant; active panel; odd number ofcommissioners; length of terms and appointmentprocess; proposals; length of some complaints1-6

NICHOLSON, LINDA JEAN (PEI SENIORCITIZENS’ FEDERATION) (HSDS)Executive director of PEI Senior Citizen’sFederation; Lifeline or Helpline for seniors; level ofincome for home repair program; women with limitedincome; Seniors Emergency Home Repair program;programs needed for seniors14-15; 17-19; 21

OBED, BERNARD (CIA)Retail business management course at HollandCollege; students living on their own; one system notfair; adults need more to survive; adults should not bepaid the same as a 16 or 17 year old; system shouldinclude student wages; government should hold backtaxes; PEI fourth lowest minimum wage in country;wage should be up to par with other provinces;students should have a system of their own;experienced should get 50 cents more; no income taxfor summer students; project for business law class;personal view of minimum wage; training wageshould be more; minimum wage suppose to rise 36-39

PERRY, EDITH (PEI WORKING GROUP FORA LIVEABLE INCOME) (Meeting 1)(CIA) (10 February 2010)Coalition of social justice and communityorganizations; ALERT; liveable income that allows afamily or individual to pay rent etc; two-tiered ordifferentiated system; group has concern forintroducing multiple minimum wage rates; womenoccupy highest percentage of service jobs; challengesin accessing training and programs; tips; totally

insecure system; supplementing unfair low wages;amounts paid in tips vary; untrained workers mayfind themselves permanent on-the-job trainees;apprentices in trade provide high quality work a lowwages; new immigrants would be partially affected;minimum wage that exists as a standard; liveableincome of a student is lower; advocating for aliveable income69-74

(Meeting 2) (HSDS) (17 March 2010)Housing report; government sit down with committeere: recommendations; Energy Efficiency department;heating oil problems; charity model versus socialjustice model; social assistance budgets; condos forwealthier people; mixed level of costs; not enoughmoney to pay rent; more affordable accessiblehousing; governments dealing with private sector;housing units outside Montague not fit to live in;housing inspectors34; 37-42

PETERS, LYDIA (CIA)Holland College student; payment of lower wage forpeople receiving tips; Quebec reduces wages forpeople receiving tips; board should meet on an annualbasis; input of public board able to weigh pros andcons of new system 50-52

PHELAN, REG (NATIONAL FARMERSUNION) (AEEF)Quebec and Nova Scotia have a program for cow/calfproducers; supply management; domestic fair trade;only 15% of beef supply produced in Maritimes; freetrade agreement; political will; take agriculture out offree trade agreements and out of WTO; ViaCampesina 112; 114;120

PIKE, WAYNE (PEI HARNESS RACINGINDUSTRY ASSOCIATION) (AEEF)Executive Director of PEI Harness Racing Industry;economic impact study; hosting of national drivingchampionships; great drivers on PEI; value of ruraldevelopment in harness racing industry; FromStriving to Thriving; industry could stand aninvestment of double what they receive today;encourage breeders to increase type and quality ofbroodmare; provide program for sale of horsesoutside of region; enormous industry on PEI; societyoriented to support racing industry; foals raised onPEI for local purposes; business aspect of selling race

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horses; cost of raising a foal; yearling sales; PEIknown as Kentucky of Canada101-105

POTTER, ANGIE (CIA)Differentiated system more beneficial to employer;PEI very seasonal; dependent on federal transferpayments; population base is small; employers willdo whatever to keep expenses lower; this legislationwould benefit company, not employee; target lowincome earners; students need summer jobs;education costs rising; should get raise based onperformance 57-59; 60

PURSEY, CARL (PEI FEDERATION OFLABOUR) (CIA)President of PEI Federation of Labour; Canada Post;PEI near bottom of category nationally; annualincome at poverty level; Statistics Canada’s lowincome cutoffs; Hunger Count Report 2009; Islandersassisted by food banks; employment and elevatedcost of housing; impact of families living in poverty;people working at minimum wage cannot claw out ofpoverty; PEI second highest percentage of lowincome workers in Canada in 2006; long term plan onwhere minimum wage is going; Nunavut meetsStatistics Canada’s poverty line, $10 an hour; goodemployers will be provided a more level playingfield; less turnover and easier recruitment; ability ofteens to be more independent and self-sufficient;reduce post-secondary education debts; time todistance from below par wage; increasing minimumwage will allow Islanders to meet basic needs;Consumer Price Index; wage to cover basics of life;better standard of living; incomes too low for adecent pension; young workers a cheap laboursource; students should not be treated as second classcitizens; earning of gratuities; tips should not be a no-cost method for employer to top up salaries; amountof gratuities directly to success of business they workfor; federation would like two-tiered minimum wagebe removed from legislation; cost of training; trainingwages; money being spent by government ontraining; other provinces don’t want two-tiered; allprovinces want $10 an hour; surplus of workers; highunemployment rate; some businesses pay staffsufficient; would like to see a fair living wage forpeople195-201

ROBERTS, STEPHANIE (CIA)Need of differential wage system; under age 18

should be different than over 18; have to afford basicsof life; student loans; system should have trainingwages; project for business law class; minimum wageshould be higher 36- 39

RODD, JAMES (ISLAND NEW DEMOCRATS)(CIA)Leader of the Island New Democrats; two-tieredsystem not to help working people; labour costs downat expense of employee; minimum wage lowest ratean employer should be able to pay; purpose of multi-tier is to keep wages down, not bring them up;workforce of PEI; not all members support a multi-tiered minimum wage; Employment StandardsReview Panel; some people lobbied governments toimplement a multi-tiered minimum wage system so tolower operating costs; review of annual reports ofElections PEI; imbalance in political sphere; receiptof monies from the Provincial Nominee Program;reverse amendments to Employment Standards Actand amend wording; changes added to act that wouldadjust minimum wage; remove recent amendment toact; balance relationship between workers andemployers; small businesses in PEI finding itdifficult; Henry Ford principle; West Prince Chamberof Commerce; government’s lack of connection withrural PEI; amendments made to Labour Act209-215

ROGERS, JOHN (PEI HUMAN RIGHTSCOMMISSION) (HSDS) Appointment of terms to PEI Human RightsCommission; job descriptions associated with being amember; Human Rights Act; engaged in discussionsto enhance work of commission; promoteadvancement of human rights; commissioners whowork hard should be afforded opportunity to bereappointed; minimum of term2-3; 5

ROWLEY, MEGAN (CIA)Experience workers should be given higher wagethan inexperienced; worker should be monitored bysupervisor; pay should be based on quantity andquality of work; university or college student shouldbe paid higher wage; employers would benefit fromdifferentiated system; benefit more industries as wellas employees; should be stipulations on basicminimum amount; get raise as employers feelsdeemed64-65

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SEEBER, TIM (PEI FEDERATION OFAGRICULTURE) (AEEF)Red meat sector; pork no longer sold on PEI; PEIgoing to lose infrastructure to produce our own food;grain and soy bean sector; producing but not value-adding; Maritime Provinces together as a unitedfront; feed grains; PEI has more at stake than othertwo provinces; mandatory crop rotation; meeting withNew Brunswick and Nova Scotia; Nova Scotia wantsgrass-fed animals to market themselves; governmentsflying off at bureaucratic levels; kill line in Albany;Atlantic Feed Grain Strategy; three-year pilot projectfor the Maritimes; feed grains addresses industries;deputy minister behind agriculture; agriculture voicewithin government is getting weaker; Canada Packersin 1977; buy local; Maritime branding; red meatstrategy; credit to minister and deputy minister128-130; 134-135; 139;142; 147

SHERIDAN, WES (Kensington-Malpeque)

SHERRY, JANICE (Summerside-Wilmot)Seeking Chair replacement (HSDS), 1

SMITH, MARIA (PEI YOUNG FARMERS)(AEEF)PEI Young Farmers Association; future ofagriculture; Future Farmer Program; HST resolutionspassed at PEI Federation of Agriculture meeting; statsof farms in Canada; drop in numbers of youngfarmers; family farms important drive of agriculture;getting money back to the farmers; farmers want tobecome more competitive; need of education toparticipate in program; emphasis on agriculture inclassroom; closing of Confederation Bridge due tostorm; shortage of food for Islanders; Holstein andbeef cows; money from Canadian Young FarmersForum; quota system; no hog or beef farms on theIsland in five years; need change in policies; length ofprogram for farmers CYFF annual meeting25-26; 28-29; 30–31; 32-39

STEAD, JEREMY (PEI YOUNG FARMERS)(AEEF)Future Farmer Program started in 2003; InterestRebate Program; more young farmers on list thanprogram could supply; access training allowances;some disadvantages to the program; maximum forinterest rebate program; length of program is fiveyears; extend program; two farmers cannot farmtogether and receive interest rebate; change ruling forcouples; increase amount of money in program;AgriInvest Program; money in program and

government matches dollar for dollar; ALUSProgram; Advance Payments Program; delay ofpayments; hopeful markets will turn around; localproducers; million dollar cow; Kobe beef; shippingbeef to Japan; niche markets; length of program; goafter local consumers; 15% of beef consumed inMaritimes; CFIA should be inspecting shipmentscoming in to country; two crops a year grown in thesouth; consume Canadian beef and pork; businessmanfor plant in Albany; local stores should be sellingMaritime beef; Young Farmers Association annualmeeting 26-28; 29-32; 35-39

TAYLOR, JESSICA (CIA)Differentiated wage system would affect young,single and students; two tier system not ideal;government promoting young people to work;differentiated system would make students not wantto work, and/or unhappy at work; Ontario havedifferent wage for liquor servers; differentiated wagesystem affects students most; adults who re-enter theworkforce go for jobs that earn tips; should stay withfixed minimum wage and raise minimum wageemployers set wage rate; work way up53-55

THOMAS, SUSAN (CIA)Holland College student; experienced to be entrustedwith job; experienced and inexperienced; increase ofimmigrants coming to PEI; tips; balanced conclusion;discriminatory against the young starting out; off-season not good for tips; discriminatory againstyoung who are starting out; tip shouldn’t beconsidered to top up wages; students participating79-81

VANBUSKIRK, DEBBIE (CIA)Food and beverage industry for 23 years; tips are giftfrom a satisfied customer; servers give percentage oftips to other staff; disgrace to put a freeze onminimum wage; young people entering workforce;summer jobs; training employees; low wages; sickdays167-170

VESSEY, ROBERT (York-Oyster Bed)Agenda, planning (AEEF), 3-4; 7Health Canada testing red meat in Canada (AEEF), 6Virus levels in potato industry (AEEF), 3-4

VISSER, MELIS (PEI AGRICULTURE

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INSURANCE CORPORATION) (AEEF)Manager of Crop Insurance Program; differentcoverage levels; has to insure all acres and have allcrop in; different coverage levels; first province toinstitute 90% coverage; APF agreement; do trackingon acres basis; major crop insured is forage; feedbeing burned in barley burners; increase inparticipation in program; field insurance program;rider coverage; weather-derivative program; specificgravity; different management schemes; coverage forcolour; changes to storage program; in 2008 about 12million in premiums was collected; loss ratio in 2009;cranberry growers wanting insurance47-60

WARD, SHELLEY (UNION OF PUBLICSECTOR EMPLOYEES) (CIA)President of the PEI Union of Public Sectoremployees; submission for consideration; union ifagainst minimum wage system; attack on Island’slabour force; Statistics Canada, 2009, MinimumWage; wage gap in Canada ranges from 50 cents to$2 an hour; tips not guaranteed, dependent uponsuccess of business; minimum wage earners requirevery little training; inexperienced wage rates acts assubsidy for employers; equal work for less pay;workers transfer from inexperienced to experienced;two-tier is discriminatory towards low wage workersand women; barely survive on wages; 60% ofminimum wage workers are under 25; age and genderdiscrimination; devalues workers; employees doingsame work will be paid different wage rates; equalpay for equal work; devaluing workers through lowerpay can have impacts; put safeguards in place; agingpopulation; PEI has lowest minimum wage andaverage weekly earnings in Canada; PEI has aseasonal economy; tourism major industry; dependenton low wage workers; lack of workers would haveimpact on tourism industry and Island economy;minimum wage is meant to serve as a base level thatemployers respect; decrease labour costs for Islandbusinesses; KPMG’s Competitive Alternative study;affordability of doing business in PEI needs to bebalanced more fairly with needs of workers;percentage of Islanders living below poverty line;impact of low wages can be seen at food bank;minimum wage should be $10 an hour; earlychildhood educators making low wages; providelivable wage for people; safeguards in place; hoursbased on steps; occupational health and safety issueswith seasonal employment; labour board; wage scale;classification system; wage increases; collectiveagreements; human rights and labour board; support a

liveable minimum wage201-209

WATTS, BUCK (Tracadie-Hillsborough Park)Agenda, planning (AEEF), 7-8 (FTRD), 7Amount minimum wage should be set at (CIA), 128Attendance of Boston Seafood Show (FTRD), 85Business in rural PEI (CIA), 130Environment regulations regarding dredging andwaterfront (AEEF),7-8Huge demand for lobster and lobster product (FTRD),85Invitation for Minister of Fisheries to attend meeting (FTRD), 1 Olin Gregan to attend meeting (FTRD), 1-2Level of income for home repair program (HSDS), 17Listening to recommendations (CIA), 165-166Liveable wage (CIA), 206Lobster market (FTRD), 4-5Maritimes will have product this season (FTRD), 85Minimum wage rate on PEI (CIA), 205Municipality funds (FTRD), 4Nomination of Chair (HSDS), 9

WEBSTER, GEORGE (Borden-Kinkora)

WHEATLEY, ANNE (PEI WORKING GROUPFOR A LIVEABLE INCOME) (Meeting 1)(CIA) (10 February 2010)Cooper Institute; Employment Standards ReviewPanel; ideal of livable income as basis for sett wagerates; less than $10 an hour is not living wage; recentincrease in minimum wage is still poverty wage; StatsCanada 2006 re: 26% worked for less than $10 anhour; PEI minimum wage rate among lowest inCanada; federal level floated idea minimum wageshould be $12 an hour when minimum wage is low iteffects more than people who earn; raising wagessupports PEI businesses 69-74

(Meeting 2) (HSDS) (17 March 2010)Story by Eleanor Kelly; working while on socialassistance; treated as second-class citizens; peoplehave been in training too long; availability of jobcoaches and supports; Tremploy or Harbourview;community care facilities; amount made workingwhile on social assistance29; 31-33; 36

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WHELAN, SUSAN (VILLAGE STORE,BEDEQUE) (CIA)Owner of Village store in Bedeque; mostly studentshired; training new help is costly; store old fashioned;no bar code reader; postal outlet; have to be on call;lost money with teenagers; profit measured bypennies; invaluable employee; perfect starting placefor kids; entry level job; not able to pay employeeswhat they’re worth with one-tier system; experiencedworkers worth more; time frame for experiencedworker; wage should be depending on age; timespent on training; sales doubled first year; communityis growing126-130

WYAND, ELWYN (NATIONAL FARMERSUNION) (AEEF)District director of National Farmers Union; cost forfarmers for traceability and identification; Federationand NFU and Cattlemen’s Association working onagriculture106; 109; 111-112; 121

YEO, ROBERT (DEPARTMENT OFCOMMUNITY SERVICES, SENIORS ANDLABOUR) (CIA)Employer Coalition and PEI Federation of Labour16

YOUNKER, COLIN (AUDITOR GENERAL)(Meeting 1) (PA) (18 February 2010)Check role with IIDI; Senior Compensation Plan;report not finalized; immigrants confused aboutprogram details; disappointed with lack ofinvolvement with investee company; disappointedwith process of good faith and language depositrefunds; lack of support after coming to PEI;intermediaries; power of attorney; conduct evaluationof program; financial statements; statutoryremittance; program details; breakdown of costs; lackof involvement with investee company; immigrantsfocus was on obtaining permanent resident visa;Immigrant Partner Category of the PEI PNP program;responsibility of agent to select a translator; agentresponsible to have documents translated; signing ofundertaking to immigrants; businesses gave packagesto intermediaries; signed letter of undertaking; IIDIdidn’t follow up on files; letter of undertaking frombusiness to IIDI; use of proceeds contract; ImmigrantPartner Program; follow up on use of proceedsagreement; develop strategy to improve settlementservice available to immigrants; GST and tax

remittance responsibilities for directors; RevenueCanada, Canada Customs Revenue; CIC completingframework evaluation of PNP; engagement letterwould state their independence; education fee; publicaccounting firms; mandate of Population Secretariat;Island Prosperity Strategy; develop programs toaddress immigrants; finalizing years report2; 10; 14-30; 35-37

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Headings for Index of Committees

Agricultural, Environment and NaturalResourcesBeefBiofuelsBio-IndustryEnvironment-generalFarm equipmentFisheries

Sport FisheryForestryGeneral Crop InsuranceHarness RacingPotatoSmall Flock HoldersYoung farmers

Arts, Recreation and TourismTourism

Business and IndustryPNP-see under Economics and Finance-

Public Accounts

Economics and FinancePublic Accounts

PNP

Government and Public AdministrationMunicipalitiesStanding Committees

Health and Social Services SeniorsSocial Services

Information and Communications Internet

Justice and RightsHuman rights

Labour, Employment and EducationEducationLabour

Wage Differential

Transportation, Infrastructure and RuralDevelopmentInfrastructureRural Development

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Subjects (* indicates presentation by a Witness)

AAgriculture, Environment and NaturalResources

Beef (AEEF)Atlantic Beef Products hopeful for future

Dumville, 119ALUS program

McIsaac, 133Buy local campaign

McIsaac, 137; 147Cattle price on PEI based on Ontario price

Henderson, 146-147Committee to ask major groups to answer somequestions

Murphy, 117Connection between producer and consumer with co-op system

McIsaac, 115Control over quality of product being an Island

Docherty, 142-143Cost For farmer for traceability and identification

Gallant, 112 Inputs into cattle industry

Dumville, 141 Needed to run program for farmers

McIsaac, 109Department of agriculture should set up stability fund

Bagnall, 118Exporting to other provinces outside Atlantic region

Docherty, 127-128Farm gate pricing

Dumville, 113-114Federal government and regulations

Docherty, 110-111Federation of Agriculture and buffer zones

Henderson, 132Feed crops versus new industrial crops

Dumville, 140Fuel used in farm-plated trucks

Crane, 135McIsaac, 145

General*Affleck, Randall (National FarmersUnion) (AEEF)Cost of production; Legislature hasresources and staff to investigate farming;recommendations presented to minister; $30million budget in farming; global problem;

over-export dependent; Nilsson Brothers inwestern Canada own most auction barns;subsidy for cow/calf producers; provincialprogram in Alberta; presentations madeacross country on cattle supply; farm gatepricing; lack of competition at the retailsector; Canadian Wheat Board; single-deskselling of hogs in Manitoba to single-deskbuying; focus on beef industry; viability ofplant going forward; losses in beef plant;packer and retailer issues; no money madehauling cattle and hogs to Ontario or Quebec 110-115

*Buttimer, Abe (PEI Federation ofAgriculture) (AEEF)HST and the Atlantic Provinces; taxes on buildings; residue can’t be used for bedding;breeding industry of hogs that is in demandaround the world; branding; GardenProvince Meats brand; Maritime brand hasmore potential132; 134; 141; 143; 146

*Campbell, Doug (National FarmersUnion) (AEEF)High prices of retailers; farmers price versusstore price; auditing of books; StatisticsCanada data; presented to committee before;government doesn’t have money to spend;beef sector should be considered asset toprovincial government; government shouldinvest in industry; government not interestedin agriculture industry114; 116-117

*Glover, Allan (AEEF)Third generation family farm; beef plant inBorden; BSE hit in 2003; sold last ofbreeding stock in 2009; direct marketingbeef; growing soybeans and grain corn;environmental issues; new technology;inability to get fair return for products;farmers losing money; educate consumersabout industry; need full fledged advertisingpromotion to get message to consumer; ads areminder to consumers where goods areproduced; change buying habits ofconsumers; retailers be willing to participatein marketing model; Riverview CountryMarket; advertising on Facebook; selling of

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boxed meat; provincially inspected; Kobebeef; dealing with Maritime chain stores 39-45

*Keenan, Alvin (PEI Federation ofAgriculture) (AEEF)Information to show we could have future inagriculture; different sectors of agriculturework differently; red meat strategy; rotationof land; runoffs into waterways and brooks;growing potatoes; losing production of food;losing investment into future of seed thatbuilt this country; infrastructure fallingapart; wind energy; Asure Program;producers are suffering; potatoes have to belabeled product of origin; CanadianHorticulture Council; economics controllingproduction; canola not new to PEI; onlyhave measurement on potatoes; Potato boardestablished in1952; seed potatoes;processing and table varieties; buy local;status quo135; 139-140; 143-144; 147

*Ling, Edith (National Farmers Union)(AEEF)Beef problems in beef industry;Safeguarding a Vibrant, Wealth-GeneratingCattle Sector for PEI; 2003 discovery ofBSE; finished market-ready cattle pricesdown since BSE; PEI cattle producershaving devastating losses; cattle and feedgrain production important part ofagriculture system; crop rotations; cattlecrisis far from insoluble; government shouldcome to aid of farmers; report done on farmcrisis and cattle sector by NFU; ifproduction is diminished we may loseAtlantic Beef Products; challenges and costsof supporting beef plant; hog and porkindustry disintegrating; closure of plantsleads to lower prices; hog production east ofQuebec likely to cease; Garden ProvinceMeats; crisis in cattle industry is national;recommendations made by NFU; cattleindustry worth a lot to the Island; money forfarmers in Saskatchewan; price of markethog in retail stores; ask Department ofAgriculture for help 106-110; 112; 118; 121

*Nabuurs, Mike (PEI Federation ofAgriculture) (AEEF)

Future of agriculture bleak; solutionavailable to help agriculture; competitivepolicy for food production; policy needsimmediate revision; not be reliant on importsfor our food; imported beef and pork; buy-local campaigns; strategy to sustain red meatsector in the Maritimes; feed grain strategy;dairy and potato industry struggling; foodsecurity for the region; leadershipcomponent of achievement; federal policy;Canadian Food Inspection Agency; primaryindustries at stake; safety net programming;margins in red meat sector declining rapidly;AgriStability; Hog Farm TransitionProgram; provincial policy; farmers at asignificant tax disadvantage; taxable fuel infarm plated trucks; HST; energy production;net billing and feed-in tarriffs; PEI hashighest electricity rates; better energy policyfor farmers; commodity-based productionprovince; economists predict future foragriculture is bright; help needs to arrivesoon; ARSA in Quebec; PEI exports hugeamount of product; HST; farmers reinvestingin farms; buffer zones should be managedaccordingly; different types of land on PEI;ALUS program; farmers don’t understandALUS program; portion of money fromgovernment goes into agriculture; programsneed revisions to work effectively; marketconditions; energy policy and taxes;Aliments Quebec; PEI exports and producesmore potatoes than Atlantic region canconsume; crambe; four-year crop rotation;reduction in potato acreage; common goodfor agriculture in the region; funding tostabilize input costs; business riskmanagement initiatives; ministers in Atlanticregion should meet twice a year; go toOttawa with a united voice; AtlanticPremiers Council meeting; fuel tax; needchanges to PST exempt list; vet college;funding between two provinces; Quebecbrand123-127; 131-133; 138; 140-141; 144-147

*Phelan, Reg (National Farmers Union)(AEEF)Quebec and Nova Scotia have a program forcow/calf producers; supply management;domestic fair trade; only 15% of beef supplyproduced in Maritimes; free tradeagreement; political will; take agriculture

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out of free trade agreements and out ofWTO; Via Campesina 112; 114;120

*Seeber, Tim (PEI Federation ofAgriculture) (AEEF)Red meat sector; pork no longer sold on PEI;PEI going to lose infrastructure to produceour own food; grain and soy bean sector;producing but not value-adding; MaritimeProvinces together as a united front; feedgrains; PEI has more at stake than other twoprovinces; mandatory crop rotation; meetingwith New Brunswick and Nova Scotia;Nova Scotia wants grass-fed animals tomarket themselves; governments flying offat bureaucratic levels; kill line in Albany;Atlantic Feed Grain Strategy; three-yearpilot project for the Maritimes; feed grainsaddresses industries; deputy minister behindagriculture; agriculture voice withingovernment is getting weaker; CanadaPackers in 1977; buy local; Maritimebranding; red meat strategy; credit tominister and deputy minister128-130; 134-135; 139;142; 147

*Smith, Maria (PEI Young Farmers)(AEEF)PEI Young Farmers Association; future ofagriculture; Future Farmer Program; HSTresolutions passed at PEI Federation ofAgriculture meeting; stats of farms inCanada; drop in numbers of young farmers;family farms important drive of agriculture;getting money back to the farmers; farmerswant to become more competitive; need ofeducation to participate in program;emphasis on agriculture in classroom;closing of Confederation Bridge due tostorm; shortage of food for Islanders;Holstein and beef cows; money fromCanadian Young Farmers Forum; quotasystem; no hog or beef farms on the Islandin five years; need change in policies; lengthof program for farmers CYFF annualmeeting25-26; 28-29; 30–31; 32-39

*Wyand, Elwyn (National FarmersUnion) (AEEF)District director of National Farmers Union;cost for farmers for traceability and

identification; Federation and NFU andCattlemen’s Association working onagriculture106; 109; 111-112; 121

Government behind agriculture industryMcIsaac, 117

Growing for genetics or meatCurrie, M., 30

Health Canada testing red meat in CanadaBagnall, 6Vessey, 6

Help for farmers to stay farmingCrane, 134

HST and farmers and general publicDumville, 140Henderson, 131McIsaac, 145

Insurance on a per farm basis or commodity baseHenderson, 131

Kind of support from provincial departmentDocherty, 128

Kobe, Wagyū beef and geneticsCurrie, M., 30-31

Long-term plan for agricultureMcIsaac, 120

Maritime branding and red meat strategy (AEEF),139Meeting with New Brunswick and Nova Scotia

Henderson, 129McIsaac, 128-129

Middle dollars need to go in the farmer’s pocketMcIsaac, 120

National chain negotiatingDumville, 114

NFU expressing concerns re: low prices to federalminister

Gallant, 112Nova Scotia own beef processing plant

Henderson, 130Policy for PEI farmers to stay in agriculture

Crane 133Program needed if agriculture is to remain in PEI

Bagnall, 118Recommendation re: Maritime brand idea

McIsaac, 144Recommendations to Department of Agriculture

Bagnall, 116Red meat strategy issue

Henderson, 146Retailers dictating prices on dollar returned to them

Docherty, 117-118 Selling of boxed beef

Bagnall, 42-44

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Currie, M., 44Situation of agriculture on PEI

Crane, 134; 135Standing committee urged to support farmers

McIsaac, 138Subsidy for cow/calf producers

Bagnall, 111Supply management in Beef industry

Gallant, 113McIsaac, 113; 116

Dairy industryMcIsaac, 119; 120

Support agriculture industry on PEIMurphy, 117

Three provinces should have a united voiceMcIsaac, 138

Value of agriculture industry to PEIMcIsaac, 110

Virus levels of potatoes on rise Docherty, 143

Biofuels (AEEF)Invitation for member from energy team to speak atmeeting

Currie, M., 2

Bioindustry (AEEF)Cost of growing borage per acre

Bagnall, 99General

*Howatt, Steve (Nature’s CropsInternational) (AEEF)General manager of Nature’s CropsInternational; oilseed processing plant inKensington; owned subsidiary of a companyout of US called Technology CropsInternational; temperature climate good foroilseeds; PEI BioAlliance; specialists ingrowing preserved oilseed products;agriculture on PEI is small-scale grain-typefarms; oleic sunflowers in Midwest US;make hemp oil or borage oil used in infantformulas or alternative to trans-fats; dietarysupplements like borage; crambe oil callederucic acid; focus on sustainable productionsystem; scalability is important; productionon Island fits with existing grower base; lowrisk of substitution; potential fordevelopment of new crops; agronomist onstaff that works with growers to produce acrop; Crop Assured 365, record keeping andtraceability system; expand production;

growers made revenue of custom harvestingand grain cleaning; risk management; boragehoney high value honey product; needtrucking companies to move oil around;research project, Agriculture InnovationFund; hexane used to extract oil; rapeseedancestor of canola; high yields per acre ofcrambe; CFIA monitors fields of oilseedhemp and takes samples; about 50% proteinpowder; borage crop; calendula (HSDS),calendic acid; meadowfoam, an edible oil;all crops GM-free; seed prices; new cropsand land rotation; keep cereals in rotation;planning to go more organic; soil types 92-101

Price of seed for cropsBagnall, 98

Type of soil for growing cropsBagnall, 99-100

Types of crops, annuals or perennialsDocherty, 98

Environment (AEEF)Crow situation in Charlottetown considered healthconcern

Currie, M., 72-73Environment regulations regarding dredging andwaterfront

Currie, M., 8Watts,7-8

Farm Equipment (AEEF)General

*Jewell, Randal (HJV Equipment)(AEEF)Moved from Michigan; been a John Deeredealer; started new business HJVEquipment; head office Alliston, Ontario;involved in GPS; reducing chemicals;harvester/windrower design; control tractorand implement hands-free; plant headlandson a curve; coulter system; GPS drives thetractor; six-row hiller; new hitch steered byGPS signal; prop attachment to create divotsfor runoff; GPS added to tulip planter andbedder; cutting sod to reduce waste;developed a seven row planter; bandingbooms on sprayers; hill potatoes interfereswith hay crop; hiller mounted to planter;weigh scales put on planters; variable rateapplication of fertilizer; new windrowerreduces amount of dirt being dug; challengeof harvesting crop; spiral rollers to reduce

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dirt; reduction in harvest time; newmechanism has capacity to clean up loads;new harvester for the Island; new holdingtank; optical sorter; belt planter designed forseed growers; sprayer for corn spraying;variable rate spread fertilizer and lime toreduce over-fertilizing; reducing costs, fueland labour inputs; Dammer Dyker17-25

Hilling of potatoesMcGeoghegan, 23; 24

Reduction in cost of spraying McGeoghegan, 24

Spreading of fertilizer on just the rowCurrie, M., 23

Fisheries (FTRD)Acting chair for meeting

Murphy, 32Attendance of Boston Seafood Show

McGeoghegan, 85Watts, 85

Blood levels in lobsterCurrie, M., 38

Canned lobster on PEIMcGeoghegan, 48

Capacity in processingMcGeoghegan, 55

Carapace size and number of trapsMcIsaac, 40; 64; 65; 76

Chefs in China trained to cook North Americanlobster

McGeoghegan, 89China does not have lobster

McGeoghegan, 86Mitchell, 89

Clancy’s promotion with Moosehead BreweriesMitchell, 68

Collusion going on in lobster industryCurrie, 87-88McGeoghegan, 87-88

Comparison of lobster prices in the worldMcGeoghegan, 48-49

Competition Bureau re: price fixingMcGeoghegan, 81

Concept of fishermen starting a co-op on PEICurrie, M. 87; 88McGeoghegan, 88

Copy of presentationBagnall, 64

Crab processors in Magdalen IslandsMitchell, 43

Demand and interest of buying lobster was high

McGeoghegan, 87DFO short-term measures assistance

McGeoghegan, 80-81Difference of payment price for fishermen

McGeoghegan, 86Economy is number one issue

Bagnall, 54-55Female lobster meeting maturity before caught

McGeoghegan, 70Financing of processing in seafood industry

Currie, M., 67; 69Fishermen not able to make payments

Bagnall, 52-53Fishermen’s livelihood threatened

McGeoghegan, 49Fishing In Sou’West Nova

McGeoghegan, 39 Industry in dire straits

Bagnall, 1Funding For a company to do a crab line

Bagnall, 70-71 If offered, has to be offered to all

Currie, M., 66General

*Bonnell, Mark (Seafood ProcessorsAssociation of Prince Edward Island)(FTRD)Market for few products; product processedin Magdalen Islands and trucked toSou’West Nova; lobster in storage in tubes;blood levels getting down; when bloodlevels down no good for air travel; sales inUS last fall, people shifting to live market;increasing size hurting PEI; mostly marketlobster in Magdalen Islands; 250-gramlobster sold to France; unique to PEI to haveavailability of smaller lobster in PEI;Magdalen Islands gets 40% wage subsidy onprocessing lobster; Sou’West Nova holdcertain amount of live; inventory is lowerbut value is less; popsicle market; cannedlobster thing of the past; different sizelobster is different areas; live trade; holdlobsters looking for better prices; worthmore in July than June; increase of price tofishermen; people that work buy lobster;fishermen and everyone have to makemoney; not enough capacity on PEI; losingplants every year; losing 60% of productgoing across the bridge; New Brunswick isbenefitting

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*Brammer, Lee (Department of Fisheries,Aquaculture and Rural Development)(FTRD)Clancy’s promotion with MooseheadBreweries; cross-marketing opportunities68

*Frenette, Ed (Prince Edward IslandFishermen’s Association) (FTRD)Lobster harvesting community facingserious difficulty; fishing well below cost ofproduction; threat to economic well being;facing onslaught of regulatory reform fromDFO; role of harvesting in industry; changein harvesting sector of industry; lack oftransparency in industry; PEIFA; PEISeafood Processors Association; LobsterCouncil of Canada; carapace size increase;approached provincial government forsupport; fair shore price for fishermen;cooperatives and collective bargaining;Lobster Science Centre at UPEI; 50 millionannual loss in the lobster industry; numberof traps; LFA 24 and 25; eco-labeling; showin Brussels and Boston; quality of lobsters;federal dollars for short-term assistance forlobster fishermen in Atlantic region;Competition Bureau; single-desk selling;live holding facilities; looking to provincialgovernment for assistance; low-interest loanprogram; Province of Quebec, no-interestloan program; optimistic prices may increase73-74; 75-82

*Gallant, Richard (Department ofFisheries, Aquaculture and RuralDevelopment) (FTRD)Committee meets to coordinategovernment’s requests; update on marketinginitiatives; licenses; US dependent in termsof market; US exchange rate; economiccrisis; fishermen face increased costs;popsicle pack; worldwide recession;Japanese yen affected income for exportingcompanies; landing prices lowest since1991; landings increased 3% in 2009 over2008; shore price down; wholesale pricesdown; food service sales are down in theUS; restaurants gone out of business in theUS; seafood is a big menu draw; trendtowards cooking at home; growth in retail;

1% of PEI lobster goes to China; lobstermarket initiatives; promotional materialupdated; expanded presentation at theBoston Seafood Show; promotion of lobsterwith Clancy’s beer; love of lobster month;Short Term Measures program;Sustainability Measures; four-city lobsterpromotion; China mission; Chef Ray Bear;frozen lobster products; Hans Andereggfrom Culinary Institute; presentation onAtlantic Canadian lobster; Lobster Councilof Canada; long-term marketing strategy;Atlantic Canada House at the Olympics;Eureka Research; European Seafood Show;lobster stocks stable last number of years;decrease in demand for luxury products;uncertainty about speed of economicrecovery; market recovery could be slow forluxury products; exchange rate; lobstershows great price elasticity; diversificationof markets is needed; live lobster inventoryat AVC for Nova Scotia live lobstershippers; carapace size; DFO science wantcanner lobster to be reproductive size beforethey’re fished; lobster size to be 72millimeters; marketplace determines the pay;moratorium is in Fisheries Act regulations;agreement with Ocean Choice; under-capacity in processing industry; programprocessors could apply for; analyze productmix; licensing of fish plants in the province;marketing initiatives; licensing of fishprocessing plants; legal advice57-73

*Gregan, Olin (Seafood ProcessorsAssociation of Prince Edward Island)(FTRD)Executive director of PEI SeafoodProcessing Association; oyster, mussel andcrab processing; Atlantic LobsterRoundtable; trade missions; Lobster Councilof Canada; long-term marketing strategy forCanadian lobster; joint funding project;carapace size; price stabilization mechanism;MSC certification; five-city tour; CanadianConsulate; Two-year agreement with PEIand NB and ACOA providing money formissions to China; FARD and BDI;processing equipment innovation project;claw cracking unit; foreign worker program;processors need skilled workers to stafffacilities; mainstream packs; Boston Seafood

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Show; lobster a celebration type food; lowprices; luxurious product into a commodity;market product differently; stable pricingsystem; long-term price assurance; Long-Term Marketing Strategy team; lobster inholding not in best condition; sales at a 10-year low; on live side sales is by optics;protein levels in lobster has been up anddown; no processors in Yarmouth; threeagreements with PEI Fishermen’sAssociation; asked to take 50 traps out of thewater; inventory on a regular basis; CFFI inNewfoundland; new equipment; foreignworkers; interviews of foreign workers;Maine carved off live trade in Asianmarkets; Maine may becoming MSC-certified; stable pricing system; Red Lobster;Darden’s Restaurant; product development;high lobster prices in other countries; PEISPA and FA; catches in Nova Scotiacompared to PEI; Sou’West Nova; industrymade up of three people: government,lobster dinner prices in South Florida;commoditizing product; inventories down;Canadian dollar; capacity issue; numberswith respect to landings; quality is a bigissue32-57

*McGeoghegan, Mike (Prince EdwardIsland Fishermen’s Association) (FTRD)Northumberland Strait fishery; expenses of aseason for fishing; millions spent onmarketing; shore prices; open boat yearsago; get some clarity in the industry; quality;living on wife’s pay cheque; lot of problemssince Fixed Link went in; trap reduction;lobster has to have 10% meat content tomake it Canadian product; stabilized price;younger fishermen in the industry;moratorium on lobster processors should belifted; south side catch 90% market lobsters;high-grading of lobsters; selling tomainland; price fixing74-75; 76-82

*McGuire, Dave (Department ofFisheries, Aquaculture and RuralDevelopment) (FTRD)China mission; Canadian lobster promotion;statistics from Agriculture and Agri-FoodCanada; lower value product61; 62; 68

Handling and poor quality of lobstersCurrie, M., 78

Higher shore price for lobsterMcGeoghegan, 49-50

Holding back of lobster trapsMcGeoghegan, 77

Huge demand for lobster and lobster productWatts, 85

Inventories within processorsCurrie, M., 47

Inventory In the fishing industry

McIsaac, 64 Program for lobster processors

Bagnall, 53Invitation for Minister of Fisheries to attend meeting

Bagnall, 1McGeoghegan, 5Watts, 1

Olin Gregan to attend meetingWatts, 1-2

Processing plants to attend meetingsBagnall, 2Currie, M., 2Mitchell, 5

Keep processing industry and fishermen afloatBagnall, 53

Knowledge of inventory on a regular basisMcIsaac, 41; 76

Legal adviceMitchell, 73

Live sales Down in the United States

McGeoghegan, 38 In Nova Scotia

McGeoghegan, 47Lobster Council of Canada

McIsaac, 42; 64 In hold in inventory

Mitchell, 46 One of PEI’s primary industry

McGeoghegan, 86 Pricing this season

Currie, M., 88Lobster industry And depressed prices

Currie, M., 3-4 In other countries

Currie, M., 6 Market

Watts, 4-5

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Looking after lobster from catch to sellingBagnall, 78-79

Loss of Lobsters in transporting

Bagnall, 79-80 Processors would be loss of industry

Bagnall, 55Market lobster in inventory in Sou’West Nova

Currie, M., 37Maritimes will have product this season

Watts, 85Memorandum of Understanding

Currie, M., 95Moratorium On seafood processors

Currie, M., 65; 66 Of lobster processors

Currie, M., 78New Marketing strategy for lobster industry

McGeoghegan, 5 Technology and high prices

Mitchell, 44Nova Scotia lobster goes mostly to live markets

McGeoghegan, 87Number of buyers on PEI

Currie, M., 78Ocean Choice will renegotiate

Bagnall, 72One-desk selling

McGeoghegan, 81Oyster Industry

McGeoghegan, 3 Quality of

McIsaac, 2-3PEI supplies 80% of world market of types of lobster

McGeoghegan, 86Price of lobster on PEI versus Nova Scotia

McGeoghegan, 50-51Prices processors paying for lobsters

Bagnall, 87Process is government subsidized

Mitchell, 43Processors Bring better competition

Currie, M., 65 Got millions out of government

McGeoghegan, 88 On PEI suffering

Bagnall, 72Quality of lobster

Currie, M., 37

Quotas to control inventoryCurrie, M., 46

Rate of recovery in the marketplaceMcIsaac, 64

Reduction of traps to bring less product inCurrie, M., 78McGeoghegan, 56; 77

Report by John Sackton and IntraFish MediaMcGeoghegan, 38

Reporting of actual inventoryMcIsaac, 42

Restaurants never lowered prices for lobsterMcGeoghegan, 47

Restocking of mussel spatMcIsaac, 2-3

Rotating daysCurrie, M., 78

Seafood From the world marketed at Boston Seafood Show

McGeoghegan, 89 Number one in China

McGeoghegan, 89Shore price to fishermen and exports

McGeoghegan, 67Sports fishery

McIsaac, 3Stable pricing system

Currie, M., 46Temporary foreign workers program

Mitchell, 45Trade missions

McGeoghegan, 77Under-capacity in processing industry

Currie, M., 66Wage subsidy for Magdalen Islands on processinglobster

Mitchell, 42-43

Sport Fishery (AEEF)Dollars to improve trout fishery

McIsaac, 70Fish eggs shocked to render fish sterile

McIsaac, 71Fishing days for kids

McIsaac, 71; 72Funding for restocking fish

McGeoghegan, 66General

*MacFarlane, Rosie (Department ofEnvironment, Energy and Forestry)(AEEF)Freshwater fisheries biologist; stocking offish for sport fishery; Dunk River Hatchery;

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Cardigan Fish Hatchery; Dover FishHatchery; native run of Atlantic salmon;habitat degradation; semi-natural rearing;Profitt’s Pond; interest in fly fishing andsalmon fishing has escalated; 1000 salmonanglers; Morell River primary river forsalmon; stocking of fall fingerlings;Ecological Goods and Services program;ALUS; digger logs; electrofishing; reddsurveys; book trout stocking; stocking ofestuaries; tagging of fish and reward offered;brook trout used for restocking after a fishkill; urban fishing; average age of an angleris male and 45; rainbow trout stocked atO’Keefe’s and Glenfinnan Lake; fishingeconomic importance to PEI; anglinglicenses decreased drastically; habitatrestoration; Recreational Fisheries AdvisoryCommittee; provincial recreational fisheriespolicy in progress; hatchery probleminconsistent funding; Wildlife ConservationFund; mercury in O’Keefe Lake;watersheds; sediment in rivers; hit with fishkills; sediment and pesticides; fish adapt toconditions in the rivers; timing of fish eggsto hatch; cost estimates in terms of restoringat Scales Pond; micro-hydro development;environmental impact; introductions andtransfers permit; competitor with Atlanticsalmon for habitat; habitat restoration; brooktrout number one fish on PEI; stockingprogram; catch fish for mercury analysis;children fishing; striped bass consideredthreatened; breed in Miramichi61-72

Hydroelectric at Scales PondCurrie, M., 68

Inbreeding to a river versus crossbreedingCurrie, M., 67-68

Less rivers adaptable to trout and salmonCurrie, M., 67

Mercury in O’Keef LakeMcGeoghegan, 66

Release of troutCurrie, M., 69-70

Restocking of Glenfinnan Lake

McIsaac, 71 Rivers, lakes, streams with sport fishery

McIsaac, 1Small hydro generators to borrow water

Currie, M., 68-69Striped bass considered threatened species

Currie, M., 72Tags on fish for reward to anglers

McGeoghegan, 66Watershed groups wanting to restock fish

McIsaac, 71

Forestry (AEEF)Acreage underutilized

Henderson, 77Apply for funding for tree planting

Bagnall, 91Dumville, 91

Comparison of trees planted year to yearMcIsaac, 75

Cut a tree, plant a treeMcIsaac, 90

Elimination of saw logs on PEICurrie, M., 81

Focus more on biomass than sawlog industryHenderson, 77

Forestry arrangements differencesHenderson, 77

General*Arsenault, Marcel (Deva ForestryServices Ltd.) (AEEF)Forestry business for over 30 years; forestIndustry in need of increased funding; halfof Island land base is forested; smallwoodlot owners on PEI; heat governmentbuildings with biomass; revenue from wood;Forest Enhancement Program; silviculturework; deficiencies in revenue-generatingsector of forestry; forestry sector geared topulp and lumber; monoculture; have healthyforestry by replacing cut softwood;plantations; 16,000 woodlot owners in PEI;FEP program is mostly labour; losingsilviculture workforce; Commercial SafetyCollege; Arsenault Saw Mill; on PEI, can’ttell woodlot owners what to do; replantingof trees; costs 25 cents to plant a tree84-88; 90-92

*Collier, Barry (Deva Forestry ServicesLtd.) (AEEF)Former contractor and woodlot owner;silviculture industry; plantation on Graham’sRoad in Prince County; commercialthinning; thinning doubles amount of woodper acre that’s produced; spruce has coolingeffect; planting of plantations; bird nests inplantations; softwood producing place forbirds; no wildlife in hardwood stands in

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winter; US Forestry Service; benefits ofplanting hedgerows; trees in city savegovernment money; reduction of wind andcooling in summer; enhance forest andincrease amount of carbon; thinning treesout produces more carbon; money forsilviculture work84; 88-92

*MacQuarrie, Kate (Department ofEnvironment, Energy and Forestry)(AEEF)Potential funding for hatchery; governmentnot interested in stocking for recreationalfishery; restoring options at Scales Pond;micro-hydro development; health concerns;private lands program; enhance forestquality on PEI; PEI has potential to growhigh quality forests; achievement is toimprove quality of forests; number of goals;increasing forest restoration; most forests onPEI are privately owned; ForestEnhancement; private woodlot ownerprogram; Greening Spaces; Hedgerowprogram designed for landowners, notwoodlot owners; costs are varied; trees,shrubs etc. are provided; landowners canplant own hedgerows; provincial forestpolicy; booked up for Hedgerows for 2010;seedlings won’t survive in some field sites;softwood harvest on PEI decreased by 90%in the past decade; need to be doing morebiodiversity; climate change; plantinglooking for quality and biomass looking forquantity; value-added manufacturers on PEI;handling that is needed for wood; AtlanticWoods Specialties Association; working onquality; Willow Biomass Project; plantingtrees improving landscape; potential in non-timber forest products; numbers of seedlingsgrown; harvest area gone down; goodgrowing conditions; New Zealand backedoff program; deforested landscape;management plan of replanting of BoughtonIsland 66-69; 73-82

Growing Season and areas for crop planting

Greenan, 100 Time for seedlings on PEI

Currie, M., 80Money into habitat restoration

Henderson, 70

More biodiversity in planting treesHenderson, 76-77

New wood species possibly bringing in diseasesCurrie, M., 79

Number of trees planted each yearMurphy, 90

Policies to encourage landowners to be moreeffective for replanting

Henderson, 78Quality woodlots on PEI

Currie, M., 78Reduction in tree planting

Murphy, 91Replanting and hedgerows

McGeoghegan, 7McIsaac, 75

Replanting of Boughton Island

Currie, M., 81 Trees

Currie, M., 81Henderson,76; 79; 80McIsaac, 75

Wait time for hedgerow plantingMcIsaac, 75

GeneralAgriculture industry

Bagnall, 2Buy local on PEI

Currie, M., 5Consumer Supported Agriculture

Docherty, 43Culinary Alliance

Docherty, 41-42Egg board to appear before committee

McIsaac, 2Farmers meeting quality for CFIA

Currie, M., 4-5Food Pack Project and food security

McIsaac, 3; 5Future of farmers on PEI

Currie, M., 30; 32Growth hormones in animals

McIsaac, 5-6Inspections Canada to give update

Bagnall, 4Issues on crop insurance

Henderson, 1Judge Thompson report

Bagnall, 7Touring of farms in western PEI

Henderson, 1Young Farmers meeting

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McIsaac, 2-3

Crop Insurance (AEEF)Communication issues

Henderson, 57; 58Cost of insurance to Farmer

Henderson, 57 Taxpayers

Currie, M., 49Crop insurance not responsive enough to deal withrisks

Henderson, 52Gravity defined as a claimable peril

Henderson, 55-56Federal/provincial and industry contributions

McGeoghegan, 58Field insurance program

Henderson, 52General

*Aiton, David (PEI AgriculturalInsurance Corporation) (AEEF)Manager of Agricultural InsuranceCorporation; administers federal-provincialsafety net programs for PEI; Crop InsuranceProgram; AgriStability; AgriInvest;AgriRecovery; insurance program goingsince 1961; premium rates established onyearly basis; program regulated byfederal/provincial regulations; non-profitorganization; premium costs; governmentspay portion of the premium; growingconditions; loss ratio; purchase reinsurancecoverage; number of individual insurancecontracts; Grains and Protein Council;changes to program for portion of crop willremain in feed sector; recommendationsfrom industry; for crop disposal; assisted orfunded under federal/provincial agreements;cost-share on premiums; cost to producers tobe in program; coverage for colour; moremoney for product with better colour;proposal to take to board of directors forcolour option; gravity problem; coverage oncrops until December 20th; extension ofstorage coverage; rider coverage; processinggrowers self-insuring by growing a few extraacres; excess production in table stockmarket; core base of agents on PEI; visitfarm and discuss program; like to seeparticipation in Crop Insurance Program at80%; insure a marketable yield; new cropcrambe; hemp oil; new crop restriction of

70% coverage in first year47-60

*Visser, Melis (PEI Agriculture InsuranceCorporation) (AEEF)Manager of Crop Insurance Program;different coverage levels; has to insure allacres and have all crop in; different coveragelevels; first province to institute 90%coverage; APF agreement; do tracking onacres basis; major crop insured is forage;feed being burned in barley burners;increase in participation in program; fieldinsurance program; rider coverage; weather-derivative program; specific gravity;different management schemes; coverage forcolour; changes to storage program; in 2008about 12 million in premiums was collected;loss ratio in 2009; cranberry growerswanting insurance47-60

Grains being burned in barley burnersCurrie, M., 50

Insurance paid on lack of saleMcGeoghegan, 58

Insured acreageCurrie, M., 49McGeoghegan, 58

Lack of farmers participating in insurance coverage,51Participation rate on crop insurance

McIsaac, 48Payouts of insurance

McGeoghegan, 58Percentage levels for crop insurance

McIsaac, 48Processors not capable of providing flexibility to helpout

Henderson, 53-54Programs for new crops

McIsaac, 59-60Staff in crop insurance section

Currie, M., 50-51Storage insurance and how it works

Henderson, 53

Harness Racing (AEEF)Cost of raising a foal

McIsaac, 104Credit to the horse racing industry

Docherty, 105General

*Pike, Wayne (PEI Harness Racing

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Industry Association) (AEEF)Executive Director of PEI Harness RacingIndustry; economic impact study; hosting ofnational driving championships; greatdrivers on PEI; value of rural developmentin harness racing industry; From Striving toThriving; industry could stand an investmentof double what they receive today;encourage breeders to increase type andquality of broodmare; provide program forsale of horses outside of region; enormousindustry on PEI; society oriented to supportracing industry; foals raised on PEI for localpurposes; business aspect of selling racehorses; cost of raising a foal; yearling sales;PEI known as Kentucky of Canada101-105

Sale of breeding stockMcIsaac, 104

Natural Organic Food Group-NOFG - seeEconomics and Finance

Potato (AEEF)Cavendish and McCains cutting back on production

Bagnall, 118Virus levels in potato industry

Bagnall, 3-4Vessey, 3-4

Small Flock Holders (AEEF)Bake egg producers

McGeoghegan, 13Egg Marketing Board

Bagnall, 13-14General

*Loo, Raymond (AEEF)Limit the size of laying hen flocks;canvassed feed mills; H5N1; feed millsdepend on poultry feed; supplymanagement; hen quota; quota system;market management system; every provincehas own rules; sales impacting feed stores;demand for free-range; eliminate ability tobe organic if no outdoor flocks; eliminationof turkeys; no commercial operation with 49hens; smaller operations limit risk to flu;each province sets own numbers; large eggproducers proposing changes; quota for meatand egg producers; eggs leaving PEI to beprocessed; letter presented to council;market increasing in the marketplace;demand for organic eggs; organic eggs

coming from Ontario to supply market;percentage of market small flocks are filling;required to refrigerate eggs; quotas increasedby market growth; meat chickens or hensaffected by same flu virus 9-17

Inspections on farmsMcIsaac, 15

Percentage of market small flocks are fillingMcIsaac, 14

Provincial ruling on number of flockBagnall, 16Currie, M., 12

Quota system for Eggs

Bagnall, 15: 16Currie, M., 13Docherty, 12McIsaac, 10-11; 14

Meat chickensBagnall, 16Currie, M., 12

TurkeyCurrie, M., 13

Quotas set by market growthBagnall, 15

Small flock owners Bagnall, 1-2McIsaac, 1; 2

Young Farmers (AEEF)Aggressive marketing campaign

Greenan, 42Beef And pork industry in dire straits

Bagnall, 36 Plant in Albany

Bagnall, 37-38Emphasis of agriculture in classroom

Greenan, 33-34Farmers using Dammer Dykers

McIsaac, 24General

*Dunphy, Patrick (PEI Young Farmers)(AEEF)Tremendous benefit combining GST andPST for the farmer; a decrease in sales taxthey pay; farmer would be eligible fortransition credit up to $1,000; burning ofmarked diesel in farm trucks; Land HoldingsLimit Review; non-tillable land; AGM ; landholding limits review; booth at potatotechnology; allowances for training

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28; 29-30; 32-33

*Smith, Maria (PEI Young Farmers)(AEEF)PEI Young Farmers Association; future ofagriculture; Future Farmer Program; HSTresolutions passed at PEI Federation ofAgriculture meeting; stats of farms inCanada; drop in numbers of young farmers;family farms important drive of agriculture;getting money back to the farmers; farmerswant to become more competitive; need ofeducation to participate in program;emphasis on agriculture in classroom;closing of Confederation Bridge due tostorm; shortage of food for Islanders;Holstein and beef cows; money fromCanadian Young Farmers Forum; quotasystem; no hog or beef farms on the Islandin five years; need change in policies; lengthof program for farmers CYFF annualmeeting25-26; 28-29; 30–31; 32-39

*Stead, Jeremy (PEI Young Farmers)(AEEF)Future Farmer Program started in 2003;Interest Rebate Program; more youngfarmers on list than program could supply;access training allowances; somedisadvantages to the program; maximum forinterest rebate program; length of program isfive years; extend program; two farmerscannot farm together and receive interestrebate; change ruling for couples; increaseamount of money in program; AgriInvestProgram; money in program and governmentmatches dollar for dollar; ALUS Program;Advance Payments Program; delay ofpayments; hopeful markets will turn around;local producers; million dollar cow; Kobebeef; shipping beef to Japan; niche markets;length of program; go after local consumers;15% of beef consumed in Maritimes; CFIAshould be inspecting shipments coming in tocountry; two crops a year grown in thesouth; consume Canadian beef and pork;businessman for plant in Albany; local storesshould be selling Maritime beef; YoungFarmers Association annual meeting 26-28; 29-32; 35-39

Healthy snack program in schoolsGreenan, 34

Informative meeting Gallant, 38

Inspections on farmsMcIsaac, 15

Inventory of chickens on PEICurrie, M., 16

Products coming in from other countriesBagnall, 36-37

Selling of boxed beefMcIsaac, 42

Time limit on Future Farmer ProgramBagnall, 35

Training allowance for Future Farmer ProgramDocherty, 33

Young Farmers AssociationBagnall, 39

Young farmers Becoming member of association

Docherty, 32 On commodity boards

McIsaac, 33

Arts, Recreation and TourismTourism Tourism industry re: cheaper wages (CIA)

Bagnall, 5

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EEconomics and FinancePublic Accounts (PA)PNPAccounting firm looking at PNP in 2003

Gallant, 28; 31ArsenaultBestCameronEllis would appear beforecommittee

Bagnall, 31-32; 33Audited files, documentation was there

Crane, 16Auditor General Not changing recommendations

McGeoghegan, 9-10 Review files re: Neil Stewart and deputy minister

Crane, 3Best of PEI store received PNP units and responsiblefor them

Crane, 7Blocking of information from Auditor General bycommittee

Bagnall, 28

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Board give committee an independent opinionCrane, 32; 33

Businesses refused to participate in program at end ofJuly 2008

Crane, 11Capital intensive service opened

Crane, 29Class action law suit with Chinese community inNova Scotia

Crane, 18Committee Blocks the fact for witnesses to come in

Crane, 26 Putting roadblock up on Auditor General

Bagnall, 9 Shutting down witnesses appearing beforecommittee

Bagnall, 8 To take work seriously

Crane, 31Companies received money while wife worked withPNP program

Bagnall, 1-2Components an evaluation should have

Biggar, 25Confidence in the Auditor General

Bagnall, 9Debt of companies that have applied under theprogram

Bagnall, 36Decision on motion

Crane, 31Greenan, 31

Directors responsible for management of corporationsCrane, 15

Discussions on a new immigrant programCrane, 23

Deputy minister changed rules of programCrane, 6

Evaluation was supposed to be agreed upon bothparties

Crane, 18Federal and provincial statutory regimes for unpaidGST

Crane, 7Final update before on recommendations of report

Bagnall, 27Firm that did audit of IIDI was a intermediary

Crane, 6Follow up on companies re: regulations

Bagnall, 36General

*Younker, Colin (Auditor General) (PA)

Check role with IIDI; Senior CompensationPlan; report not finalized; immigrantsconfused about program details;disappointed with lack of involvement withinvestee company; disappointed withprocess of good faith and language depositrefunds; lack of support after coming to PEI;intermediaries; power of attorney; conductevaluation of program; financial statements;statutory remittance; program details;breakdown of costs; lack of involvementwith investee company; immigrants focuswas on obtaining permanent resident visa;Immigrant Partner Category of the PEI PNPprogram; responsibility of agent to select atranslator; agent responsible to havedocuments translated; signing of undertakingto immigrants; businesses gave packages tointermediaries; signed letter of undertaking;IIDI didn’t follow up on files; letter ofundertaking from business to IIDI; use ofproceeds contract; Immigrant PartnerProgram; follow up on use of proceedsagreement; develop strategy to improvesettlement service available to immigrants;GST and tax remittance responsibilities fordirectors; Revenue Canada, Canada CustomsRevenue; CIC completing frameworkevaluation of PNP; engagement letter wouldstate their independence; education fee;public accounting firms; mandate ofPopulation Secretariat; Island ProsperityStrategy; develop programs to addressimmigrants; finalizing years report2; 10; 14-30; 35-37

IIDI Administering program on behalf of federalgovernment

Crane, 23 Annual report by ArsenaultBestCameronEllis

Crane, 25 Staff responsible for immigrants to understanddetails

Crane, 17 Role to meet requirements to attract and keepimmigrants here

Crane, 23Immigrant People act as a director

Crane, 15 Investor’s responsibility

Crane, 7Immigrants

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Confused about program detailsBagnall, 14

Not knowing what companies they invested inCrane, 15

Upset when being interviewedCrane, 18

Investigation of filesBagnall, 21-22

Language person doing translations doing interviews Bagnall, 19

Legal liability for back taxes on bankrupt companyMcGeoghegan, 24

Letter of undertaking from businesses to IIDIBagnall, 22

Letter to Heidi Smith from the ministerCrane, 15

Liability opinion about the provinceCrane, 7

Loan applications and programs not filled outproperly

Bagnall, 20Major issues around liability for province

Crane, 6Make sure immigrants coming to PEI knew what theywere signing up for

Crane, 23Motion-re: Auditor General Audit of IIDI by ArsenaultBestCameronEllis

Bagnall, 30Gallant, 34

Brings details back on sectionsCrane, 4

Do random samples of 10% of PNP filesCrane, 4

Give names of all family members of MLAs etc.Crane, 4

Name names who made application to PNPCrane, 3

Committee ask for opinion on CAA board onindependence of firm

Crane, 29-30 Motions put forward be sustained

Biggar, 5-6; 7New member on committee

Bagnall, 1Greenan, 1

Notification to immigrantsBagnall, 21

Opinion on use of proceeds agreementCrane, 36

PEI went outside agreement and took more files thanagreed upon

Crane, 35-36PNP An investment for Island business community

Crane, 6 Program opening and shutting down

Crane, 28Power of attorney and legal opinion be given toimmigrants

Crane, 16Presentation from Geoff Dubrow

Bagnall, 13; 14; 37-38Crane, 13

Program full of all kinds of mismanagementCrane, 7-8; 12

Province working in partnership with federalgovernment

Crane, 25Receiving of PNP units while being a program officer

Crane, 11Recommendation re: Treasury Board conflict ofinterest guidelines

Crane, 3Release of the Auditor General’s report

Biggar, 10McGeoghegan, 9; 10

Removal of motion until next meeting Bagnall, 33; 34Crane, 33; 34

Return of Auditor General to a meeting Biggar, 38

Review of motions at next meetingCrane, 5

Reviewing of Auditor General’s reportGallant, 6; 10McGeoghegan, 9

Rewarding of Liberal party after getting PNP unitsBagnall, 3

Seven intermediaries in place were picked by formergovernment

McGeoghegan, 31Status of follow-up with immigrants

McGeoghegan, 24Tabling of motions

Bagnall, 4; 5Crane, 4

Three-day visiting visa to receive info and look atschool system

Crane, 18Translators from both parties in attendance

Bagnall, 19Witnesses at the federal level

Crane, 11Work being done by committee

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Biggar, 12; 13Work on committee will help with liability and futureproblems

Crane, 8

Fnone

GGovernment and Public AdministrationMunicipalitiesInfrastructure for municipalities

Currie, M., 1Municipality funds

Watts, 4

Standing CommitteesAgenda, planning (AEEF)

Bagnall, 1-8; 45-46Currie, M., 2-8; 82-83Henderson,1-2; 82McGeoghegan, 6-8McIsaac, 1-8; 45-46Vessey, 3-4; 7Watts, 7-8

(CIA)Bagnall 74-75Biggar, 35; 122-123Gallant, 122-123Henderson, 1-6; 74-76; 122-123

(EI)Bagnall, 1-4Currie, M., 1-3Dumville, 2

Dunsford, 1-3Gallant, 1McIsaac, 2

(FTRD)Bagnall, 5-7; 30-31Currie, M, 6-7; 30Dumville, 6-7Mitchell, 83McGeoghegan, 30-31

Murphy, 7; 30-31; 82-83Watts, 7

(HSDS)Bagnall, 8; 9-10Biggar, 6; 7-8; 9-10; 55

Crane, 7-8; 55Docherty, 55Gallant, 8

(PA)Bagnall, 37-39Biggar, 38-39Crane, 38-39

Agenda, planning (HSDS), 55 Greenan, 38-39Committee name change

Dumville, 1 (FTRD); 2 (EI) Gallant, (EI), 1

Groups to be presenting at meetings (CIA)Biggar, 5

Nomination of Chair (EI)

McIsaac, 5-6 (HSDS)

Watts, 9HHealth and Social ServicesSeniors (HSDS)Accessibility to senior drug plan

Crane, 18Difference in income bracket between seniors

Docherty, 15Dumville, 18-19

General*Hammill, Eric (PEI Senior Citizens’Federation) (HSDS)President of PEI Senior Citizens’Federation; positive change for seniors;needs of low income seniors; wagedifferential of male and female seniors;Seniors’ Emergency Home Repair program;subsidizing personal income responsesystems; Lifeline for seniors; shortage ofgood housing for seniors; support coming inhealth through home care; Corpus Sanchez;support of keeping seniors in own home;transportation in rural areas; program inKinkora for transportation for seniors;Canadian Medical Society; seniors goingwithout hearing aids; seniors havefundraisers; Rotary Clubs; Canada Pensionbenefits; senior drug program; pilot projectof transportation; liability insurance; incometax splitting; income statement for self-employed people; isolated communities;Passport to Employment; need morecoordination and cooperation among groupswith government11-12; 14-22

*Nicholson, Linda Jean (PEI Senior

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Citizens’ Federation) (HSDS)Executive director of PEI Senior Citizen’sFederation; Lifeline or Helpline for seniors;level of income for home repair program;women with limited income; SeniorsEmergency Home Repair program; programsneeded for seniors14-15; 17-19; 21

Income For women during child rearing years

Biggar, 21-22 Tax splitting for seniors

Dumville, 19Level of income for home repair program

Watts, 17Lifeline and Helpline for seniors

Bagnall, 14Docherty, 16-17

One time grant to assist seniors to appointmentsBagnall, 14

Programs and services for seniorsCrane, 20

Rotary Club in MontagueBagnall, 15

Seniors access to social assistance income supportBiggar, 21

Transit system from Charlottetown to SummersideDocherty, 16

Transportation for seniorsDumville, 19-20

Social ServicesAffordable housing for social assistance clients

Dumville, 39Amount of income social assistance people can earn

Bagnall, 50Biggar, 50-51

Construction costs so highBagnall, 40

Dental coverage for people on social assistanceBagnall, 31

Dispose of property before qualifying for assistanceDunsford, 48Gallant, 51

Elimination of povertyMcIsaac, 53

Freezing of land to receive assistanceDocherty,49-50Dunsford, 49McIsaac, 52

General*Boyd, Mary (MacKillop Centre forSocial Justice and Poverty Bites) (HSDS)

MacKillop Centre for Social Justice;working on poverty eradication; SocialAssistance Act; Appeal Board; socialassistant recipient on board; National ChildBenefit; people requiring social assistanceforced to sell land; liquid assets; shelter andrent; standards for landlords too low; lack ofhousing standards; transportation allowanceis insufficient; recipients often givensecondhand goods; earned monthly income;every person go through three recessions inlifetime; Working Income Tax Benefit;federal government owns over 80% of socialprograms; current act is stifling; UNDeclaration of People with Disabilities;more universal-type programs needed to liftpeople out of poverty; Income Security forWorking-Age Adults in Canada; Let’sConsider the Model Under Our Noses;Ontario Child Benefit; 2007 Angus Reidpoll; income support programs for seniorsand children; Old Age Security; ChildBenefits; 51% of workforce work part-time;child poverty; PEI statistics worse than otherprovinces in most ways; secondhand goods;social assistance payments well belowpoverty line; guaranteed annual income;universal programs; New Brunswick povertyreduction strategy43-54

*Burge, Irene (ALERT) (HSDS) Group of people working to try to improvepeople on social assistance; active since1983; recommendations for act; want the actto be readable; elimination of poverty;provide funding for basic necessities;eliminate clawbacks of the National ChildBenefits Supplement; policies not readilyavailable to people on social assistance;greater amount of income should be allowedto people on social assistance; met withminister and deputy minister; housing studydone; mothers undernourished because don’thave enough money for food; funding to dohousing research; foster parents; three-pointfunding; ceiling on rent 34; 35-40

*Burge, Marie (PEI Working Group for aLivable Income) (HSDS) PEI Working Group for a Livable Income;community-based organizations; Social

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Assistance Act; people on social assistancehave same rights; different ways people haveincome in their homes; many homes do nothave decent living conditions; not havingsufficient income to meet daily needs;inadequate income comes from low wagesor EI; all citizens have a right to a liveableincome; a lot of people too poor to beinvolved in community issues; prejudiceagainst people on low income; many peoplein PEI living in poverty; government’s dutyto protect and improve lives of citizens;develop a poverty reduction strategy; needfor long-range vision and plan forelimination of poverty; poverty reductionstrategy; all government departments mustbe involved; organization of public finances;ALERT and PEI People First;recommendations made to PEI government;access to programs depends on level ofincome 23-27

*Garland, Leo (ALERT) (HSDS) Housing study done by ALERT; sadconditions some people are living in;housing report; government make changes inthe House; living conditions in someapartments34; 36-38; 41-42

*LeFurgey, Lloyd (PEI People First) (HSDS)Group where people with disabilities speakup; main goals of PEI People First; lack ofemployment; Social Assistance Act; morethan 60% of people on social assistance havedisabilities; amount of money for food andrent not enough; more money needed fortransportation; should be coverage for dentalcheckup; prescription medication coverage;discouraged from getting a job; some peopleon social assistance live in community carefacilities; Canada ratified UN Convention ofthe Rights of Persons with Disabilities;changes in the act; people have right toinformation about services and programs;have the right to good medical care; level ofsupport needs to be increased; cost of living;story frm Eleanor Kelly; people in facilitiesfor less than minimum wage; everyoneshould be treated fairly; jobs at Tremployand Harbourview; working and not losing

money; younger people living in manors;programs for people to get integrated intocommunity27-33

*Perry, Edith (ALERT) (HSDS) Housing report; government sit down withcommittee re: recommendations; EnergyEfficiency department; heating oil problems;charity model versus social justice model;social assistance budgets; condos forwealthier people; mixed level of costs; notenough money to pay rent; more affordableaccessible housing; governments dealingwith private sector; housing units outsideMontague not fit to live in; housinginspectors34; 37-42

*Wheatley, Ann (PEI People First)(HSDS)Story by Eleanor Kelly; working while onsocial assistance; treated as second-classcitizens; people have been in training toolong; availability of job coaches andsupports; Tremploy or Harbourview;community care facilities; amount madeworking while on social assistance29; 31-33; 36

Guaranteed annual incomeCrane, 54

Jobs for people on social assistanceBagnall, 30-31

Loss of money on social assistance when you workBagnall, 31Gallant, 35

More literacy in populationBiggar, 27

People with disabilities and housing choicesCrane, 33

Percentage of women living in povertyCrane, 27

Poverty reduction strategyCrane, 26

Receiving training without affecting incomeCrane, 27

Rental agreements have to be changedBagnall, 40

Root causes of povertyBiggar, 27

Secondhand goods going to social assistance peopleMcIsaac, 52

Social justice model

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Crane, 38Training for people with disabilities

Docherty, 32-33Working Income Tax Benefit for low-income people

Crane, 47-48

IInformation and CommunicationsInternet (FTRD)Aliant paying own infrastructure cost

Mitchell, 96Approved area

Bagnall, 20Bell Aliant has done job in O’Leary

Henderson, 12Build up of customer base in community

Currie, M., 95Bundle for wireless customers with Turbo Stick

McGeoghegan, 20Business model to absorb other service providers

Currie, M., 28Cell phones work with HSPA

McGeoghegan, 25Closing customer service offices

Currie, M., 24Comparison of system to rest of Canada

Biggar, 15Complaints re: hookups for high-speed

Currie, M., 24Contact Of government officials

Mitchell, 95 For Internet service

Biggar, 11Contract Comparable in amount

McGeoghegan, 97 Not signed with former government

McGeoghegan, 20Cost Factor and service comparable

Murphy, 99 Of internet and cell service

Currie, M., 22Coverage across Island

Currie, M., 99Creation of jobs

Greenan, 12Difference in price of turbo sticks

Currie, M., 98-99DSL Connection in Cardigan

Currie, M., 17

Hardwire second-class serviceCurrie, M., 23

Enhancing cellular service across PEIHenderson, 21

Exetel fibre to enhance infrastructureCurrie, M., 21

Federal money to connect rural PEI Currie, M., 14-15

General*Clark, Todd (Director of BusinessDevelopment, Bell Aliant) (FTRD)Rural broadband on PEI; delivery of;amount of work and effort; massive project;four phases to deliver project; improvedtechnologies; new switches; fibre optics;point to point feed; alternative technologies;last year recessionary period; money intoinfrastructure; connecting homes on a dailybasis; cellular wireless technology; HSPA-plus network; 3.75G technology; cost-modelfor turbo stick; positive project forgovernment and Aliant; Turbo Stick;targeting civic addresses8-12

*England, Allison (Air TechCommunications Inc.) (FTRD)Cost of Internet to customers from Aliant;Internet repair service99-100

*England, Kent (Air TechCommunications Inc.) (FTRD)Air Tech Communications Inc. inRichmond, PEI; family-owned wirelessInternet provider; work camps in northernAlberta; Bell Aliant; access for all to high-speed is essential; involved incommunications technology for 20 years;negative impact on business; sole providerfor Internet service in Prince County;purchasing hardware from Brown Brothers’store in Richmond for installation work;100% family financed; Prince Countyexpansion project; Island flyer, Pennysaver;funding agency Canada-PEI Labour MarketDevelopment Agreement; JuniorAchievement Programs; technical support;appeal to attract Island youth to return home;election promise to deliver high-speed to allIslanders; upgrades required to keep pacewith technological environment; severalquestions requesting answers; working with

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limited information; real cost oftelecommunications; quality of service; costfactor of service comparable 90-100

*Howatt, Bruce (Vice-President for PEI,Bell Aliant) (FTRD)Massive project; large employee base; high-speed available across province; confusionfrom customers; Phase four; wireline andwireless; build phase of project; innovationfund; extension of contracts; developmentagreement; extension of telephone contract;building of broadband network;establishment of innovation fund;monitoring committee to evaluateinstallation; augmentation work to do; BellMobility; Turbo Stick as mobile wirelesssolution; EVDO Turbo Stick; wireless equalto DSL line; investing every year innetworks across PEI; High-Speed Ultra;booster technology; wholesale model; buynetwork and resell it; price cap on wirelesssolution; fibreoptic cable; standard rates;meeting business needs; bundle for wirelessusing Turbo Stick; providing booster androuters; provide priority services to voicecommunications; Exetel fibre; working toimprove cellular service; market rates; DSLhardwire; customers have high-speedwithout phone line; closing customerservice; wireless technologies scanningdigital service; wireless network notcompletely secure; HSPA more secure thandigital; replacement of equipment; workwith customers on a case by case basis12- 29

*Lambe, Keith (Regional Manager, BellAliant) (FTRD)Capacity built; equipment and delivery time;approved area and customer26-27; 29

Government taking over Internet hookup (FTRD)Currie, M., 98

High-speed service on HSPABagnall, 26

HSPA more secure than digital McGeoghegan, 25

Innovation fundBiggar, 13

Invitation for president of Island Tel to attendmeeting

Currie, M., 3-4McGeoghegan, 5Mitchell, 5

Launch of Turbo StickCurrie, M., 15

Length of time to get upgradeBagnall, 26

Lines full and no accessBagnall, 25

Memorandum of UnderstandingCurrie, M., 95

Negotiations for contractCurrie, M., 13-14

New hardware needed with HSPA cell networkCurrie, M., 22

No cost for upgrade of systemBagnall, 27-28

Phone contract with Aliant not tenderedMcGeoghegan, 96

Plans for Phase fourBiggar, 12

Price cap on wireless solutionBagnall, 18-19

Prices compared to AliantDumville , 99

Rates for businessesBagnall, 19

Routers and booster put in if Turbo Stick don’thandle

Currie, M., 20-21Henderson, 18

Service of all areas for high-speed InternetCurrie, M., 14

Scanning of cell phonesMcGeoghegan, 25

Smaller Internet service providersBiggar, 18

Switches put in for DSL Currie, M., 23

Switching over to DSL from EVDO stickMcGeoghegan, 28

Targeting civic addressesGallant, 11

Thanks to presenters re: high-speedMurphy, 28

Turbo stick A deal between Aliant and customer

McGeoghegan, 97 Equivalent to high-speed

Currie, M., 15-17Two Turbo Sticks, HSPA and EVDO

McGeoghegan, 22Upgrade of system

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Bagnall, 26-27 Wayne Phelan to have representative to speak

Bagnall, 29Biggar, 29-30

JJustice and RightsHuman Rights (HSDS)Candidates for terms of human rights commission

Biggar, 7General

*Nicholson, Anne (PEI Human RightsCommission) (HSDS)Acting chair of Human Rights Commission;proposal; law student; length of terms inother provinces; copies of job description;ready for an update; budget cuts; neappointees need training; CanadianAssociation of Statutory Human Rights;providing best service to Islanders; solecommissioner; rearranging of panels; areasconsidered when making appointments;independence of commission is important;active panel; odd number of commissioners;length of terms and appointment process;proposals; length of some complaints1-6

*Rogers, John (PEI Human RightsCommission) (HSDS) Appointment of terms to PEI Human RightsCommission; job descriptions associatedwith being a member; Human Rights Act;engaged in discussions to enhance work ofcommission; promote advancement ofhuman rights; commissioners who work hardshould be afforded opportunity to bereappointed; minimum of term 2-3; 5

Length of Complaints

Henderson, 4 Time for term

Bagnall, 7Motion re: recommendations presented by humanrights commissioner

Crane, 4; 5Number of commissioners

Bagnall, 5Henderson, 5

Seeking Chair replacementSherry, 1

Topics for work planCrane, 6

Knone

LLabour, Employment and EducationEducation (EI)Eastern School District rezoning issues

Bagnall, 1-2Currie, M., 1-2Dunsford, 1-2

Invitation for Minister of Education to attend meetingCurrie, M., 3

Representative from Holland College or UPEI toattend a meeting

McIsaac, 2

LabourWage Differential (CIA)Act changed for two-tiered

Currie, M., 214-215Age Of hiring for businesses

Biggar, 151; 153Henderson, 151; 153

Of students when hiredGallant, 128

Range on split and amount of hoursMcIsaac, 51

Amendment For sick days

Crane, 169-170 To bill

Bagnall, 9Amount minimum wage should be set at

Watts, 128Ask department to use a gender-based analysis

Crane, 17Average Age of UPEI and Holland College students

Crane, 182 Range of minimum wage

McIsaac, 58; 64Business in rural PEI

Watts, 130Businesses supporting training allowance

Crane, 108Canadians working at or below minimum wage

Dunsford, 42

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Chamber of Commerce brief organization on changesHenderson, 166

Change in policyCrane, 16

Classification system in federal serviceBiggar, 26

Classified position and probation periodBiggar, 17; 18Dunsford, 26-27

Clerk to send letters to high schoolsHenderson, 34-35

Coffee shop employees receiving tipsDunsford, 45-46

Commercial food service units Biggar, 93

Commission considered a wageBagnall, 52; 53

Committee Name changes

Biggar, 148 Will be making recommendations to Legislature

Henderson, 165Consultations From PEI Women’s Network and Status of Women

Henderson, 17 Held in 2006 re: wages

Dunsford, 15 Should have been done before bill passed

Bagnall, 13Costs to An employer hiring new employees

Bagnall, 55 Train employees

Docherty, 199 Cut off for taxable income

Crane, 85Different Minimum wages based on experience, etc.

Henderson, 139 Provinces have different wage rates

Henderson, 155; 156 Rates for different jobs

Henderson, 206; 208 Wages for different ages

Henderson, 151Differential wage System discussed at CIA meeting

Dunsford, 10 Rates within rural PEI

Crane, 17; 139 Could be seen as discriminatory

Dunsford, 27Discrimination case based on charter

Dunsford, 60Disrespect based on wages

Dunsford, 24Employer determines raise of employee

Bagnall, 55Henderson, 68; 72; 181

Employers Hiring and firing

McIsaac, 48 Not having to pay benefits

Bagnall, 73-74 Not laying off good workers

McIsaac, 59Employment Standards Act Amendment

Biggar, 98-99 Given Royal Assent

Bagnall, 7 Reviewed in 1995

Murphy, 18-19 Sick days

166; 169 Wrongful dismissal or human rights

Henderson, 206-207Employment Standards Board re: Minimum wage set base rate

Henderson, 161-162; 168 Reviews minimum wage

Henderson, 18; 101-102Executive Council has power to make decision

Bagnall, 13Experience of workers

Murphy, 88 Experienced person may be making more wages

Henderson, 90Food Banks

Dunsford, 67 Service industry

Biggar, 91General

*Abbott, Janine (CIA)Multi-tiered minimum wage; save money onindividual first-time workers; paying newemployees lower wage during probation;new system backtrack to like it was yearsago; probation period; protection forwrongful dismissal47-50

*Baker, Everett (CIA)Settled on PEI in 1963; Royal Canadian

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Navy; lineman with Maritime Electric;Electrical Workers Union and Federation ofLabour; Congress of Union Retirees ofCanada; no good time for businesses to raisewages; employers resort to minimum wagefor part-time workers; higher wages couldmean fewer jobs; higher minimum wage hasproven less staff turnover; reduction in costsof training; trade union movement; makeupand composition of minimum wage; trainingcomponent for people entering workforce;probation period; gratuities; tips are notwages; person offering tip is for servicereceived; kids working for less thanminimum wage; students under 16 workingand getting hurt110-113

*Bernard, Mark (CIA)Accounting Technology student at HollandCollege; against proposal of different wagerates; hard for students to live on their own;managers make own decisions; use ownminimum wage system within unit; Ontariohas different wage rates; every wagestandard in Ontario is higher than Alberta;proposal to reduce wage rates onindividuals; difference in restaurants in tips81-83

*Boyd, Mary (Council of Canadians)(CIA)Coordinator of MacKillop Centre for SocialJustice; Poverty Bites; poverty eradicationstrategy; two-tier minimum wage system;minimum wage is a social policy; majorityof people in PEI are working poor; keepfocus here on PEI; against legislation andintroduce a two-tiered minimum wage forPEI; victimizes youth, women and allvulnerable workers; PEI has lowest weekwage in the country; unemployment rate of10%; median hourly wage; highestpercentage of workers of any provinceearning less than $10 an hour; more parttime workers than full time workers on PEI;lowest hourly wage in Canada for privatesector; part-time jobs are low paid and nobenefits; unbelievable conditions of work inprovince; average income of part-timeworkers in province hovers around povertyline; danger of cuts in wages; tips; SusanGeorge, researcher; letter by Pope Benedict

XVI117-121

*Broderick, Leo (Council of Canadians)(CIA)Council of Canadians; social injustice to thislegislation; attack on workers; impact ofminimum wage legislation; people living inpoverty; thousands of minimum wageworkers in province living in poverty; issueof poverty has to be addressed; two-tiered ormulti-tiered; attack on workers globally;many employers who pay more thanminimum wage; government ensure thatlegislation and regulations are in place;stand in solidarity with workers of PEI whoare the working poor; misunderstandingabout low income workers; creative ways tomotivate minimum wage employees; knowwhat drives your employees; most live paycheque to pay cheque; people deserve aliving wage; should have a decent standardof living; social assistance rates; attack onworking poor; increase of wages; increasesalaries to improve lives; hurts working poorthe most; tax system needs to be overhauled;small businesses tend to pay a little more;companies are making millions; need toaddress it as a society and community; verylittle public consultation; poverty wage113-117

*Chaisson, Kelly (CIA)Not as discriminatory as in other times;sometimes not as many tips; info fromacross Canada re: two-tiered minimumwage; $8.50 is below poverty line inCanada; student poverty; taxes of text books47-48

*Chappell, Christa (CIA)Business Administration at Holland College;experience an asset to employee andemployer; differential wage reflected inbonuses; 40% minimum wage workersdon’thave school diploma; minimum wagedeclines with age; older workers may be working tosupplement pension income or to stay active;working seniors concentrate in certainoccupations 86-89

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*Cheverie, Leo (CUPE Local 1870) (CIA)President of CUPE Local 1870; support staffat UPEI; impact on students enteringworkforce; member of Working Group forLiveable Income; minimum wage should beliveable wage and liveable income; equalpay for work of equal value; Canadianlabour market; declining real wages;younger and older workers; low wagescontribute to poverty; seasonal nature oftourism, agriculture and fisheries; youthemployment will go up if there is adifferential wage; Canadian Centre forPolicy Alternatives; differential wages inother provinces; Stats Canada; market study;two-tiered minimum wage structure;Federation of Labour; injuries for youngworkers higher than other workers; trainingwages; International Labour Organization;apprenticeship programs; encouragingimmigration to the province; immigrantsdiscriminated against; CharlottetownChamber of Commerce brief; real wagesfallen behind; minimum wage fallen behind;anchoring effect; depend on EI for part ofincome; poverty reduction strategies; livingwage; working poor; food bank survey; debtloads for students; tips are unreliable;income gap growing on PEI; CFIB opposingFebruary holiday; PEI depends on tourism;labour standards; PEI needs to adopt povertyreduction strategy; OECD studies; CanadianLabour Congress committee; higherminimum wage could result in less staffturnover; Cavendish Music Festival;Tourism Industry Association; moreemployees pay closer to minimum wagethan most provinces do; fair wages; ruralversus urban; Summerside Chamber ofCommerce; New Brunswick andNewfoundland going to $10 an hourminimum wage; liveable income that’slegislated; Thom Workman professor atUNB; mature students at UPEI; debt loadsfar larger now than in the past; wages forstudents working at UPEI not high enough;Employment Standards Review; provincehas few stat holidays; Jack Frost Festival;taxation system; RRSPs; tax system veryunfair; Canada pension low compared toOECD countries174-185

*Christopher, Anne (CIA)Cost of living going up; slave labour; trainemployee to do the right job; probationperiod; incentive that wages will get better;no tax breaks; minimum wage; tips for goodservice; sharing of tips; working poor; stresson families; bullying, discrimination anddisrespect; workers should get benefits atwork; should raise minimum wage130-133

*Coles, Doug (Greater CharlottetownArea of Chamber of Commerce) (CIA)Past President of Greater CharlottetownArea of Commerce; wage rate is of greatimportance; in 2009 minimum wageincreased twice on the Island; CPI remainedstatic; government contemplating a $10minimum wage by 2011; two-tieredminimum wage system; training wage;inexperienced worker wage; experienceworker rate; three-tiered minimum wagestructure; Chamber members would like toknow wage six months in advance; cut backnumber of hours or employees99-103

*Cudworth, Ted (CIA)Defend low income workers; people barelymake enough to exist; takes a community toraise a child; implementing bill will createfirst and second class citizens; far too fewdecent paying jobs; effect on those whowant to further their education; low wagesdon’t pay for tuition; Nova Scotia minershad terrible time to survive; fishers andfarmers having terrible time; subtract tipsfrom wages; fewer people eat out today;fewer tips, less money; Canadian RestaurantAssociation; protect bottom line; plagued byrecession; Gettysburg Address; businessesstruggling185-188

*Curtis, John (CIA)Young people our greatest asset; workplaceswith good reputation; want pay aboveminimum wage; labour shortage; family sizehas shrunken; Vanier Institute of the Family;Canada is signatory of United NationsDeclaration of Human Rights; quotes fromdeclaration; province cut taxes; average

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Canadian household debt; Bank of Canadawarning interest rates will rise; Goods andServices Tax; no future in suppressingwages; Alberta population increased, PEIpopulation decreased; businesses who wanttwo-tier wage sending wrong message;Constitution of Canada; legislate wages140-143

*Doucette, Roy (Department ofCommunity Services, Seniors andLabour) (CIA) Two-tiered wage system; bill given RoyalAssent; bill not proclaimed; EmployerCoalition; other provinces have enablinglegislation; Employment Standards Board;camp councillors; Atlantic minimum wageand increase; Executive Council; wages inother provinces; recommendations given togovernment in September 2006; PEIFederation of Labour; reduced work week;more benefits to workforce; ruraldevelopment issue; improving quality of lifefor women; balanced approach7-8; 11-19

*Doughty, Alice (CIA)Accounting student at Holland College;disagree with multilevel wage; new workersinexperienced; young people do jobs thatthey don’t get paid for; separate GST andPST; high level of poverty on PEI; impacton economy; majority of servers only paidminimum wage; Island suffering fromshortage of entry level workers; intention toentice new workers into PEI workforce;personal exemption for federal; changes onIsland should be gradual; seniors and tips;multi-tier level minimum wage83-86

*Dugay, Kevin (Miscouche ConvenienceStore) (CIA)Miscouche Convenience store; good systemif implemented in a proper way; day shift;staff members have evenings; cutting of staffhours and shifts; don’t want to increaseprices; open 365 days a year; freezeminimum wage; working student; spendingmoney; skilled labour; two-tiered systemworks well in other provinces124-126

*Erjavec, Luc (Canadian Restaurantsand Foodservices Association) (CIA)Vice-President of Canadian Restaurant andFood Services Association; represent ownersand operators in PEI and across country;minimum wage; negative sales growth;decline in profitability; restaurants haveclosed; largest industry on the Island; 20%of youth employees work in this industry;giving people first job experience; mostworkers are students or secondary incomeearner; minimum wage is the base scale;increase in wage is new cost for food serviceoperators; tough economy; people watchingspending; input costs going up; federal andprovincial government get more tax money;CPP; more money in EI; poverty andworking poor; tax system; tip differential;liquor server; Labour Standards; self-servecuts down on jobs; minimum wage earnersgenerally earn tips; working within wageenvelope; reduction of hours and closureswhen wages go up too fast; challenge foroperators; wage increased in PEIdramatically in last number of years; basicpersonal exemption; low income credit;supported balanced package; more than oneminimum wage recognized reality ofworkplace; kinds of standard differentwages; Labour Standards Act; farm workersexempt from Minimum Wage Act; high costof training workers; training wage wouldtrigger high youth unemployment rate;freeze minimum wage where it’s at; PEIused to have a student wage; Americanstates have tip differentials; tip rates; wagescale; economic recession; different wagerates and work conditions; very littleresearch done on tipping in Canada;Employment Standards Review Board;public policy should be based on debate andsound information91-99

*Ferguson, Carol (CUPE PEI) (CIA)Minimum wage protecting workers who areunable to protect themselves; legislating forhigher wages138-139

*Ferguson, Erin (CIA)Holland College program; could benefit

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from differentiated wage system; should bebasic minimum amount employees should bepaid; Quebec employees penalized in paybecause of anticipation of tips; basicminimum amount should be consideredbecause of cost of living; may not be able tohire experienced workers for more money63-65

*Hambly, Kathy (Greater CharlottetownArea Chamber of Commerce) (CIA)Tourism put budgets together for this year;employers don’t know what wage is for2010; Executive Council; inexperienceworker wage up to age 18101-102

*Harris, Jill (CIA)Business Administration at Holland College;wage system would be beneficial toemployers and employees; rewardexperienced workers; equal pay for equalwork; experience an element definingminimum wage; Employment Standards Act;employees prohibited from accepting payless than minimum; PEI has aging andexperience population; youth turned awaydue to lack of experience; training wage inplace; model in each province varies;minimum wage level is Canada’s oldestsocial policies; employees prohibited fromaccepting pay less than minimum; from StatsCanada young workers lack job experienceor education; two-third minimum wageworkers are under 25; education ofemployee be regarded as separate entity;investment in education brings profitablereturn86-89

*Hayes, Andi (CIA)Issues concerning food industry; tips; payscales; increase of taxes; employers have toraise prices; 5% of Islanders makingminimum wage; inflation; legislate differentwages78-79

*Horne, Kevin (CIA)2007 Hunger Count report; 23.7% employedworkers at food bank; Island’s minimumwage doe not allow many working Islanders

to meet needs; many food bank users onlyearn minimum wage; high oil prices;employment standards laws; minimum wagerights; Charter of Rights and Freedomsprohibits discrimination on basis of age;understood two-tiered minimum wage wasdropping; standard of living wage; HungerFood Facts; Jobs for Youth; subsidizeemployee wages with program; not everyonequalified for funding through Jobs forYouth; basic personal tax exemption65-68

*Jamieson, Jonathan (CIA)Employment Standards Act; fix minimumwage rates; government tends to allowparents to subsidize students; statistics fromStats Canada; inexperienced worker shouldbe paid lower wage; working-poor; not ableto support family on minimum wage;inflation rate; tax cuts for poverty line;government benefits from taxes whenminimum wage increased; more breaks forpeople who have money42-46

*Jeffrey, Jennifer (PEI Association ofNewcomers to Canada) (CIA)Coordinate employment program at ANC;employment counsellors; workshop settings;educated health professionals; employmentcounseling services; English skills; differentwage rates may have negative impact onnewcomers; Employment Standards Act;coming here with a degree and paid less;program has strong relations with localbusinesses; benefits of hiring newcomers;certain groups of people put into a lowerwage; settlement agency; two minimumwages; funded by different departments;Service Canada, Skills PEI; Citizenship andImmigration Canada; new funding programsfrom Skills PEI; one minimum wage190-191; 192-195

*Kelly, Ron (Island New Democrats)(CIA)Amendments to act passed by Legislature;not proclaimed; former minister agreed todelay changes; reference on Chamber ofCommerce website214-215

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*Lane, John (West Prince Chamber ofCommerce) (CIA)Past president of West Prince Chamber ofCommerce; 90 independent businesses inWest Prince; organization against thought oftwo-tiered minimum wage; minimum wageshouldn’t be considered a fair wage; bigbusinesses trying to save a few dollars; mainissue is attracting good qualified workersand keeping them; two-tier form ofdiscrimination; bigger jurisdictions goingwith two-tier; need quality servers to upholdstandards; more time training andsupervising inexperienced workers;definition of inexperienced; proof of hoursworked somewhere else; if it’s legislated ithas to be policed; chamber members; studentloan programs; funds to universities andcolleges are growing at a rate; cost ofeducation; basic personal exemption onincome tax; provincial income tax; very littletraining orientation; Resources West; wagesfor waiters and waitresses; hospitalityindustry is seasonal; survey done; paid basedon experience and inexperience;Employment Standards Board; governmentclassifications; raise PEI basic exemption;wage rate set same as the MLAs’ wage rate;lower income tax rates on lower income taxlevels; Charlottetown Chamber ofCommerce; conflict of interest if in thebusiness of hiring people and on committee;5% to 7% population making minimumwage155-166

*Lea, Judy (CIA)Few would have advantage by havingdifferentiated system; large corporatebusinesses would save money on extrapayroll tax; young people having lowerwages will leave the Island in favour ofbetter wages; tips don’t just go to the server;Jobs for Youth program; firmly against two-tiered wage system; change would onlybenefit businesses; amendment of act arequite broad; if proclaimed, could discouragenewcomers66-67

*Livingstone, Wanda (CUPE Local 1779)

(CIA)Representing CUPE Local 1051; presidentof PEI Health Council; treasurer ofCommunity Hospital Ladies Auxiliary;Employment Standards Act; operate New toYou shop in O’Leary; two-tier bad deal forworking poor; low wage will becomecommon wage; most minimum wage peopleare women; volunteers through the winter;minimum wage should be $10 an hour;problems all stem around money; base rateshould be higher; jobs on PEI are seasonal;people on PEI depend on EI because of nojobs171-173

*Lutwick, Kristopher (CIA)Wages having to do with tips; wage system;supporting on minimum wage; legislatedthat employer is told what to pay;inexperienced versus experienced; turnoverrate is great with part-time employees;should be probationary period if employeedoing bad job89-91

*MacKay, Margaret (CIA)Employed by a union employer; issueswould make legislation useless; short-termemployment with high wages re: peopledon’t want to return to work; lot ofemployees working two to three jobs;surviving on minimum wage; child labour;maximum wage is going to be PEI’sminimum wage; training methods; employerpaying lower than minimum wage, willboycott that business; age of hiring forbusinesses; Labour Act; against two-tierminimum wage system; Income Tax Act; tipsare wages; health and safety concern; labourissues; child welfare act 149-153

*MacKay, Sandy (CIA)President of Federation of Labour; Union ofPublic Sector of Employees; wages in 1969;register on government website; hearings beheard on research on minimum wage; anychanges have to have public input; minimumwage lowest rate an employer can pay; 7.5%rollback in 1995; unions negotiate what jobis worth; unions negotiate what job is worth;

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rates across Atlantic region; minimum wageshould be minimum; should be able to joinunion without fear of being fired; LabourRelations Board; legislation under LabourAct; name change of committee144-149

*Mackie, Craig (PEI Association ofNewcomers to Canada) (CIA)Executive director of PEI Association forNewcomers to Canada; settlement services;social inclusion; integration programs; formin 1993; delivery of programs and services;Global Jam; fundraiser; overview; multi-tiered minimum wage; growing immigrantpopulation on PEI; Provincial NomineeProgram; settlement services; permanentresident or Canadian citizen; temporarywork visa; some funded by province andHealth Canada; International EducatedHealth Professional Initiative; amendmentre: minimum wage189-190; 191-195

*MacLean, Sarah (CIA)Differentiate by job class; comparison ofwaitress in a diner to waitress in high-endrestaurant; tips depend on quality of serviceand customer preference; wages set up atminimum wage because of tips;differentiated wage system will lead toresentful class of workers; lower and higherlevel employees; create a higher turnoverrate; government should consider raisingminimum wage; should raise personal taxcredit for individuals58-59; 60

*MacNeill, Emily (CIA)Young people gain experience also byparticipating in groups; PEI is unique;should not change system just to becomparable to other provinces; minimumwage goes up so does taxable income; basicpersonal exemption; idea of tips affectingwages; tips are gifts and cannot becontrolled; no guarantee a service providerwill not receive a tip; multi-level wagesystem would do more harm than good83-85

*MacNeil, Mary (Public Service Alliance

of Canada) (CIA)Public Service Alliance of Canada; lots ofwork in consulates and embassies; majorcuts to federal government; hiring of a lotmore student workers; a lot of jobsdependent on minimum wage; TransitionHouse workers; First Nation employees;some students treated disrespectfully; lot oflabour legislation does not cover students;lawsuit against federal government on howstudents are treated; equal pay for equalwork; society treated differently;commissionaires unionized; involved withhealth coalition; poverty eradication; helpingstudents; federal government have nolegislation; Public Service Labour RelationsAct; student program for federal governmentversus federal government employee re:wages; disrespect based on wages; contractworkers disrespected; employers usingstudents as full-time employees; accidentsbecause students are not trained properly;equal pay and equal rights for students;regional differentiation; Treasury Board;teacher assistants at UPEI; collectiveagreement; term employees; contractworkers are minimum wage workers 20-30

*MacPhail, Meghan (CIA)Student Holland College Retail BusinessProgram; differential wage issue; paid basedon experience and/or education77-79

*MacPhee, Emily-Grace (CIA)Holland College student; minimum wagesystem not as fair as it could be; BCemployees in training receive lower wagethat experienced; have to work 500 hours forwage to increase; amount of hours would notbe acceptable re: have to work an entireyear; a tip, wage or earnings50-52

*Martell, Daniel (CIA)Differentiated wage system; inexperiencedworker would received different minimumwage; way for employer to get cheaperlabour; two people doing the same kind ofwork receiving different wages; CanadianCharter of Rights and Freedoms; students as

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capable as an adult to do the job; payingindividuals different wage if they work in anindustry that receives tips; tourism seasonMay to September contributes to tips; PEIshould remain with one minimum wage55-56

*McCrae, Gillian (CIA)Holland College program; wagedifferentiation; issue of wage differentiationis seemingly unclear to public; affected withwage differentiation during career inOntario; one flat minimum wage in theprovince; would have an effect on smallbusiness and taxpayers; three monthprobationary period is standard practice;performance reviews; student wage is fair upto age 18; employers have additionalresponsibilities; five years as an employer inrestaurant business in Ontario; threedifferent minimum wages; wagedifferentiation did not spark conflict withinworkplace; liquor servers’ gross incomesupplemented through gratuities; equal workand equal pay; value performance; smallbusinesses represent 90% of businessesacross province; entrepreneurs value andappreciate good work; saving on taxes theycan increase wages; reviewing of minimumwage yearly; giving raise based onperformance; businesses not going to hirestudents to save money; a lot of minimumwage positions are label or task-orientated;sold business60-63

*McGrath-Gaudet, Erin (Canadian Federation of Independent Business)(CIA)CFIB; small and medium sized businesseson PEI; survey data; CFIB is non-partisan;funded by members; context aroundminimum wage policy; focus ondifferentiated wage systems; small businessowners supportive of minimum wage;minimum wage more of a social policyinstead of labour policy; Statistics Canadadata; most minimum wage earners areinexperienced; poverty reduction strategies;minimum wage increasing faster thaninflation; tax system and BPE; growth andrevenue; reduced profits is impact thatcomes from raising minimum wage; use of

technology to replace labour; regulated interms of prices; labour being a large cost andis growing with minimum wage; only 29%of businesses pay minimum wage; a third ofbusinesses said not impacted by minimumwage; how members determine wages; baselevel; members in support of a trainingwage; inexperienced workers more likely tomake minimum wage; mandatory raises;gratuity wage; hospitality industry; membersexercising ability to pay more103-110

*McTague, Nicole (CIA)Canadians working below minimum wage;certain groups face high levels of poverty;percentage of workers earning less arewomen; difficulty making a living;government helping people throughprograms; people doing same jobs with noeducation while someone else has education;students should be offered better tax breaks;should be more student loans; cost of livingnot going down; rent increases; companiesshould pay people their worth; trainingwages; tips; labour force survey40-42

*Murray, Milo (CUPE PEI) (CIA)President of Canadian Union of PubicEmployees; CUPE is Canada’s largestunion; PEI represents 2,400 employees;against recent amendment to EmploymentStandards Act; few forms of protection;changes made in December 2009; CUPE is acommunity union; men and women on PEIcannot afford a wage cut; minimum wageearners will fall further into poverty; paylower minimum wage to employees whoearn gratuities; many employees have nocontrol on tips; service industry workersfinancially vulnerable; training andexperience; International LabourOrganization; Canadian Centre for PolicyAlternatives; employers providing training;March 8th, International Women’s Day;wages should be based on job done; equalpay for equal value; no evidence increase inminimum wage will lead to job losses;minimum wage and unemployment rates;higher minimum wage could result in lessstaff turnover; advantages of higher wages;

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looking to improve standard of living;Consumer Price Index; CUPE opposes two-tiered minimum wage; minimal training andsupervision; equal work for equal value134-140

*Obed, Bernard (CIA)Retail business management course at Holland College; students living on theirown; one system not fair; adults need moreto survive; adults should not be paid thesame as a 16 or 17 year old; system shouldinclude student wages; government shouldhold back taxes; PEI fourth lowest minimumwage in country; wage should be up to parwith other provinces; students should have asystem of their own; experienced should get50 cents more; no income tax for summerstudents; project for business law class;personal view of minimum wage; trainingwage should be more; minimum wagesuppose to rise 36-39

*Perry, Edith (PEI Working Group for aLiveable Income) (CIA)Coalition of social justice and community organizations; ALERT; liveable income thatallows a family or individual to pay rent etc;two-tiered or differentiated system; grouphas concern for introducing multipleminimum wage rates; women occupyhighest percentage of service jobs;challenges in accessing training andprograms; tips; totally insecure system;supplementing unfair low wages; amountspaid in tips vary; untrained workers mayfind themselves permanent on-the-jobtrainees; apprentices in trade provide highquality work a low wages; new immigrantswould be partially affected; minimum wagethat exists as a standard; liveable income ofa student is lower; advocating for a liveableincome69-74

*Peters, Lydia (CIA)Holland College student; payment of lowerwage for people receiving tips; Quebecreduces wages for people receiving tips;board should meet on an annual basis; inputof public board able to weigh pros and cons

of new system 50-52

*Potter, Angie (CIA)Differentiated system more beneficial toemployer; PEI very seasonal; dependent onfederal transfer payments; population base issmall; employers will do whatever to keepexpenses lower; this legislation wouldbenefit company, not employee; target lowincome earners; students need summer jobs;education costs rising; should get raise basedon performance 57-59; 60

*Pursey, Carl (PEI Federation of Labour)(CIA)President of PEI Federation of Labour;Canada Post; PEI near bottom of categorynationally; annual income at poverty level;Statistics Canada’s low income cutoffs;Hunger Count Report 2009; Islandersassisted by food banks; employment andelevated cost of housing; impact of familiesliving in poverty; people working atminimum wage cannot claw out of poverty;PEI second highest percentage of lowincome workers in Canada in 2006; longterm plan on where minimum wage is going;Nunavut meets Statistics Canada’s povertyline, $10 an hour; good employers will beprovided a more level playing field; lessturnover and easier recruitment; ability ofteens to be more independent and self-sufficient; reduce post-secondary educationdebts; time to distance from below par wage;increasing minimum wage will allowIslanders to meet basic needs; ConsumerPrice Index; wage to cover basics of life;better standard of living; incomes too lowfor a decent pension; young workers a cheaplabour source; students should not be treatedas second class citizens; earning ofgratuities; tips should not be a no-costmethod for employer to top up salaries;amount of gratuities directly to success ofbusiness they work for; federation wouldlike two-tiered minimum wage be removedfrom legislation; cost of training; trainingwages; money being spent by governmenton training; other provinces don’t want two-tiered; all provinces want $10 an hour;surplus of workers; high unemployment rate;

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some businesses pay staff sufficient; wouldlike to see a fair living wage for people195-201

*Roberts, Stephanie (CIA)Need of differential wage system; under age18 should be different than over 18; have toafford basics of life; student loans; systemshould have training wages; project forbusiness law class; minimum wage shouldbe higher 36- 39

*Rodd, James (Island New Democrats)(CIA)Leader of the Island New Democrats; two-tiered system not to help working people;labour costs down at expense of employee;minimum wage lowest rate an employershould be able to pay; purpose of multi-tieris to keep wages down, not bring them up;workforce of PEI; not all members support amulti-tiered minimum wage; EmploymentStandards Review Panel; some peoplelobbied governments to implement a multi-tiered minimum wage system so to loweroperating costs; review of annual reports ofElections PEI; imbalance in political sphere;receipt of monies from the ProvincialNominee Program; reverse amendments toEmployment Standards Act and amendwording; changes added to act that wouldadjust minimum wage; remove recentamendment to act; balance relationshipbetween workers and employers; smallbusinesses in PEI finding it difficult; HenryFord principle; West Prince Chamber ofCommerce; government’s lack of connectionwith rural PEI; amendments made to LabourAct209-215

*Rowley, Megan (CIA)Experience workers should be given higherwage than inexperienced; worker should bemonitored by supervisor; pay should bebased on quantity and quality of work;university or college student should be paidhigher wage; employers would benefit fromdifferentiated system; benefit moreindustries as well as employees; should bestipulations on basic minimum amount; get

raise as employers feels deemed64-65

*Taylor, Jessica (CIA)Differentiated wage system would affectyoung, single and students; two tier systemnot ideal; government promoting youngpeople to work; differentiated system wouldmake students not want to work, and/orunhappy at work; Ontario have differentwage for liquor servers; differentiated wagesystem affects students most; adults who re-enter the workforce go for jobs that earntips; should stay with fixed minimum wageand raise minimum wage employers setwage rate; work way up53-55

*Thomas, Susan (CIA)Holland College student; experienced to beentrusted with job; experienced andinexperienced; increase of immigrantscoming to PEI; tips; balanced conclusion;discriminatory against the young startingout; off-season not good for tips;discriminatory against young who arestarting out; tip shouldn’t be considered totop up wages; students participating79-81

*VanBuskirk, Debbie (CIA)Food and beverage industry for 23 years;tips are gift from a satisfied customer;servers give percentage of tips to other staff;disgrace to put a freeze on minimum wage;young people entering workforce; summerjobs; training employees; low wages; sickdays167-170

*Ward, Shelley (Union of Public SectorEmployees) (CIA)President of the PEI Union of Public Sectoremployees; submission for consideration;union if against minimum wage system;attack on Island’s labour force; StatisticsCanada, 2009, Minimum Wage; wage gap inCanada ranges from 50 cents to $2 an hour;tips not guaranteed, dependent upon successof business; minimum wage earners requirevery little training; inexperienced wage ratesacts as subsidy for employers; equal work

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for less pay; workers transfer frominexperienced to experienced; two-tier isdiscriminatory towards low wage workersand women; barely survive on wages; 60%of minimum wage workers are under 25; ageand gender discrimination; devaluesworkers; employees doing same work willbe paid different wage rates; equal pay forequal work; devaluing workers throughlower pay can have impacts; put safeguardsin place; aging population; PEI has lowestminimum wage and average weekly earningsin Canada; PEI has a seasonal economy;tourism major industry; dependent on lowwage workers; lack of workers would haveimpact on tourism industry and Islandeconomy; minimum wage is meant to serveas a base level that employers respect;decrease labour costs for Island businesses;KPMG’s Competitive Alternative study;affordability of doing business in PEI needsto be balanced more fairly with needs ofworkers; percentage of Islanders livingbelow poverty line; impact of low wages canbe seen at food bank; minimum wage shouldbe $10 an hour; early childhood educatorsmaking low wages; provide livable wage forpeople; safeguards in place; hours based onsteps; occupational health and safety issueswith seasonal employment; labour board;wage scale; classification system; wageincreases; collective agreements; humanrights and labour board; support a liveableminimum wage201-209

*Wheatley, Anne (PEI Working Groupfor a Liveable Income) (CIA)Cooper Institute; Employment Standards Review Panel; ideal of livable income asbasis for sett wage rates; less than $10 anhour is not living wage; recent increase inminimum wage is still poverty wage; StatsCanada 2006 re: 26% worked for less than$10 an hour; PEI minimum wage rate amonglowest in Canada; federal level floated ideaminimum wage should be $12 an hour whenminimum wage is low it effects more thanpeople who earn; raising wages supports PEIbusinesses 69-74

*Whelan, Susan (Village Store, Bedeque)

(CIA)Owner of Village store in Bedeque; mostlystudents hired; training new help is costly;store old fashioned; no bar code reader;postal outlet; have to be on call; lost moneywith teenagers; profit measured by pennies;invaluable employee; perfect starting placefor kids; entry level job; not able to payemployees what they’re worth with one-tiersystem; experienced workers worth more;time frame for experienced worker; wageshould be depending on age; time spent ontraining; sales doubled first year; communityis growing126-130

*Yeo, Robert (Department of CommunityServices, Seniors and Labour) (CIA)Employer Coalition and PEI Federation ofLabour16

Government And opposition agreed to vote on bill

Biggar, 9 Authority to do a different minimum wage

Henderson, 114 Implement different levels of minimum wage

Henderson, 145Hardship for businesses if wages go up

Gallant, 65Health benefits to employees

Crane, 166Human Rights Act

Bagnall, 60Income tax exemption

Bagnall, 44-45; 46Henderson, 46-47

Increasing personal tax exemption at provincial levelCrane, 169; 184; 187

Inexperienced workers and minimum wageBiggar, 151-152

Invitation for Holland College, UPEI and schools toattend meetings

Crane, 34Issue of two-tier minimum wage

Crane, 80-81; 85Leaving wage increase to discretion of employer

Henderson, 138Legislate wage Or leave it to employer

Henderson, 79; 86; 90; 161 Increase after one year

Henderson, 138

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Legislated Does not mean it’s going to be enacted

Gallant, 164 Minimum wage

Docherty, 199Legislation of a second minimum wage re: experienceetc.

Henderson, 50; 54Length of time Inexperienced worker classified as inexperienced

Biggar, 102Murphy, 99; 128

Spent on trainingGallant, 129

Listening to recommendationsWatts, 165-166

Liveable Income of a student is lower

Henderson, 72-73 Wage

Watts, 206Looking for change in policy

Crane, 16Make up of chamber in O’Leary

Crane, 157Majority were women presenters

Dunsford, 18Meetings regarding two-tier wage system

Bagnall, 1-2Minimum wage Increase and cut expenses

Henderson, 124 Is set, employer has to pay

Henderson, 86 Raise and cost of living

Henderson, 172 Rate on PEI

Gallant, 200; 215Watts, 205

Rates going upGallant, 94; 116-117

Suggestion for profession Henderson, 168-169

Versus training wageGreenan, 55

Multi-level minimum wageMurphy, 194

Never a mandate to committee to reduce minimumwage

Gallant, 139No Difference of wage currently implemented

Henderson, 7

Income tax for studentsDunsford, 38

Regulations written for billBagnall, 12

New consultations across the province since 2006Bagnall, 19

Nothing said about lowering minimum wageHenderson, 186

Number of Mature students attending university

Crane, 182 Membership responded to poll

Murphy 163Other provinces re: two-tier wage system

Biggar, 2Dunsford, 4-5

PEI one of lowest provinces of minimum wageBagnall, 54

People Re-entering the workforce

Greenan, 73 That are the working poor

Crane, 90-91People’s perspective on wage rates

Crane, 158Population density and wages

Henderson, 82-83Possibility of minimum wage going lower than it is

Dunsford, 49Poverty reduction

Crane, 30Presentation And research

Biggar, 83 On minimum wage before committee

Dunsford, 4-5Gallant, 2Murphy, 2

Proposed amendment to two-tier wage systemBiggar, 1-2

Protection for Employees

Biggar, 147 Non-organized staff

Docherty, 208 Dismissal under human rights

Henderson, 49Protocols to join union

Henderson, 147Provincial tax exemption

Biggar, 105Crane, 93; 116

Public

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Consultations regarding billBagnall, 8; 10-11

Have input before act is proclaimedHenderson, 8

Recommendations For servers and feedback

Biggar, 168 From Employment Standards Act

Henderson, 14Regional differentiation within federal government

Biggar, 26Request for list of presenters

Biggar, 33-34Review of Request by previous minister

Henderson, 9 Social assistance caseloads

Crane, 32Salary increase based on age or performance

Dunsford, 62Settlement services

Currie, M., 192-193 Sick day after five years of work

Crane, 183Similar legislation in other provinces

Henderson, 117Skilled labour coming on the job

Biggar, 126Split wages

Bagnall, 12Statistics on minimum wage workers

Crane, 88-89Students Complaining to the PSAC

Dunsford, 23 Working on commission

Dunsford, 52 Would like more wages

Dunsford, 23-24Suitable wage for PEI

Gallant, 83Support For two-tier if staff protected

Docherty, 208-209 Of bill in the House

Bagnall, 9Survey sample size

Biggar, 106;108Take Your MLA to School

Crane, 80Temporary work visa

Currie, M., 193Three

Months to be used as a training wage Biggar, 137-138Crane, 137; 159

Training wage systemGreenan, 102

Tips Built into bill in the US

Murphy, 85-86 Considered wage or earnings

Biggar, 93Henderson, 51-52; 59; 80-81Murphy, 85

Toll-free number re: committee meeting interestHenderson, 77; 81

Training Period for two-tier wage system

Bagnall, 13; 44; 48 Wages

Bagnall, 38-39; 41; 56Docherty, 199

Two provinces, liquor servers receive different wageHenderson, 168

Two-tier System somewhat in place

Gallant, 164 Versus differential

Henderson, 14; 19 Wage system

Bagnall, 38Henderson, 39-40; 63McIsaac, 37-38; 46; 67

Underage employees workingCrane 152-154

Union legislation re: Labour ActBiggar, 147

Wage Of employees based on skill set etc.

Biggar, 125Henderson, 64

Should be same for everyoneBagnall, 59

Stay the same for inexperienced workersGallant, 101

Wage rates And classifications

Biggar, 161-162 For students

Henderson, 129; 158 For university students employed at UPEI

Crane, 182 Wages For people on a casual basis

Crane, 29

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Same when training people Biggar, 169

Work plan of CIA meetingDunsford, 10; 11

Working at minimum wage rateHenderson, 42; 57

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TTransportation and Infrastructure andRural DevelopmentInfrastructure (FTRD)Infrastructure for municipalities

Currie, M., 1Municipality funds

Watts, 4

Rural Development [see Internet underInformation and Communications]

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