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  • Outcomes of ECMO

    Pramod Bonde

  • Travel…

  • What is ECMO?

  • Take blood from right atrium (V)

    &

    return beyond aortic valve (A)

  • Vein—oxygenate--Vein

  • Long shunt with large bore at one end and small at other with a pump and

    oxygenator in between

    Tool not therapy!

  • Who?

  • Patients with life-threatening hypotension despite rapidly escalating inotropic support, critical organ hypoperfusion, often confirmed by worsening acidosis and/or lactate levels &/or inability to oxygenate due to cardiac failure…..

  • So what do you do when faced with it?

  • How do I view it?

  • A momentary pause in the act of deathJohn Warren, 1800s

  • Scenarios

    • Cath lab crashes• Acute MI----cardiogenic shock• Acute decompensation of CHF• Post cardiotomy• Post heart transplant: PGD• EPCR

  • Pulmonary

    • ARDS• ALI• Viral Pneumonia• H1N1• Non ARDS acute respiratory failure

  • Why ECMO mortality high?

  • Because current indications

    Heroic

    Altruistic

    Realistic

    Constructive

  • In spite of that….

  • ELSO Registry Data Summary

    July 2018

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  • Overall Patient Outcomes

    ELSO Registry July 2018

    Total Runs Survived ECLS Survived to DCNeonatalPulmonary 30,934 25,990 84% 22,662 73%Cardiac 7,794 5,063 64% 3,281 42%ECPR 1,718 1,140 66% 708 41%PediatricPulmonary 8,820 5,953 67% 5,131 58%Cardiac 10,462 7,177 68% 5,447 52%ECPR 3,946 2,262 57% 1,675 42%AdultPulmonary 16,337 10,857 66% 9,649 59%Cardiac 15,942 8,865 55% 6,747 42%ECPR 4,952 1,896 38% 1443 29% Total 100,905 69,203 68% 56,743 56%

    2_OverallPatientOutcomes_201701

    Total RunsSurvived ECLSSurvived to DC

    Neonatal

    Pulmonary30,93425,99084%22,66273%

    Cardiac7,7945,06364%3,28142%

    ECPR1,7181,14066%70841%

    Pediatric

    Pulmonary8,8205,95367%5,13158%

    Cardiac10,4627,17768%5,44752%

    ECPR3,9462,26257%1,67542%

    Adult

    Pulmonary16,33710,85766%9,64959%

    Cardiac15,9428,86555%6,74742%

    ECPR4,9521,89638%144329%

    Total100,90569,20368%56,74356%

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    ELSO Registry July 2018

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    Died 258 367 45 517 684 2380Surv 478 609 104 906 1003 3539

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    Died 138 245 1705 180 53 3894Surv 88 125 1312 198 80 3030

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  • Indications..

    • Cardiac index < 1.8• Wedge > 20• CVP > 20• Systemic BP < 80• Maxed out ventilation (PEEP>20, FIO2-100,

    Max RR)

  • Caveat….surrogate

    Frequently you have none of these numbers

  • Is it too late to institute

  • Difficulties

    Delayed referralCardiac arrest/unknown neurological status

    Frequently ventilatedNot very tolerant of inotropes

    Organ dysfunctionAnticoagulants onboard

  • What should we do….

  • Typical management response…

  • Sauer CM, Yuh DD, Bonde P. Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation use hasincreased by 433% in adults in the United States from 2006 to 2011. ASAIO J.

    2015 Jan-Feb;61(1):31-6.

  • Sauer CM, Yuh DD, Bonde P. Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation use hasincreased by 433% in adults in the United States from 2006 to 2011. ASAIO J.

    2015 Jan-Feb;61(1):31-6.

  • Can we improve the outcome?

  • Management philosophy…

  • Stretch R et al. J Am Coll Cardiol. 2014 Oct 7;64(14):1407-15.

    Use of temporary cardiac support devices has increased

  • Bonde et al, JACC, Nov, 2014

  • Thiagarajan RR et al. ASAIO J. 2017 Jan/Feb;63(1):60-67.

  • Stretch R et al. J Am Coll Cardiol. 2014 Oct 7;64(14):1407-15.

  • But CPR can save lives in cardiac arrest…..

  • CPR

  • CPR

  • CPR

  • CPR

  • Romantic therapy with no actual effect….

  • Ohh…but they are destined to die....

  • Not true…..

  • Overall Patient Outcomes

    ELSO Registry July 2018

    Total Runs Survived ECLS Survived to DCNeonatalPulmonary 30,934 25,990 84% 22,662 73%Cardiac 7,794 5,063 64% 3,281 42%ECPR 1,718 1,140 66% 708 41%PediatricPulmonary 8,820 5,953 67% 5,131 58%Cardiac 10,462 7,177 68% 5,447 52%ECPR 3,946 2,262 57% 1,675 42%AdultPulmonary 16,337 10,857 66% 9,649 59%Cardiac 15,942 8,865 55% 6,747 42%ECPR 4,952 1,896 38% 1443 29% Total 100,905 69,203 68% 56,743 56%

    2_OverallPatientOutcomes_201701

    Total RunsSurvived ECLSSurvived to DC

    Neonatal

    Pulmonary30,93425,99084%22,66273%

    Cardiac7,7945,06364%3,28142%

    ECPR1,7181,14066%70841%

    Pediatric

    Pulmonary8,8205,95367%5,13158%

    Cardiac10,4627,17768%5,44752%

    ECPR3,9462,26257%1,67542%

    Adult

    Pulmonary16,33710,85766%9,64959%

    Cardiac15,9428,86555%6,74742%

    ECPR4,9521,89638%144329%

    Total100,90569,20368%56,74356%

  • Bitter truths….

  • ECMO

    Even Corpses Maintain Oxygenation

  • Beware……

  • Outcomes directly proportional to surgeon investment….

  • Devices are getting better…..

  • Incremental progress can be good….

  • But incremental innovation has its price….

  • It is not guaranteed forever..

  • Destination should be in mind before starting ECMO …..

  • Adult strategy is not same as neonatal or pediatric

  • P ≠ C ≠ E

  • Technique vs Tardiness

  • Revenue vs Reason

  • Value vs Virtue

  • Tool not therapy

  • Innovation is the key….

  • Modified SurfacesBaseline Surface

    Engineered Super-Slippery Surface

  • Breaking the Time Barrier of Drop Bouncing

    J. C. Bird, R. Dhiman, H-M. Kwon, K. K. Varanasi, Nature 2013

  • Super non-thrombotic surface

  • Lets see what you will do….

  • A 82 years old wife of former hospital CEO on five maxed out

    inotropes/pressors, BP: 60, baseline EF: 10%, creatinine 4, BMI of 40, coded

    for 120 minutes

  • Please call the priest!

  • Thank you….

    Outcomes of ECMOTravel…Slide Number 3What is ECMO?Take blood from right atrium (V) ��&� �return beyond aortic valve (A)Vein—oxygenate--VeinLong shunt with large bore at one end and small at other with a pump and oxygenator in between��Tool not therapy!Who?Slide Number 9So what do you do when faced with it?Slide Number 11How do I view it?Slide Number 13ScenariosPulmonaryWhy ECMO mortality high?Because current indicationsIn spite of that….ELSO Registry Data Summary60��40��30Overall Patient OutcomesSlide Number 22Slide Number 23Adult Survival by Diagnosis and YearSlide Number 25Slide Number 26Slide Number 27Indications..Caveat….surrogateIs it too late to instituteDifficultiesWhat should we do….Typical management response…Sauer CM, Yuh DD, Bonde P. Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation use has�increased by 433% in adults in the United States from 2006 to 2011. ASAIO J. 2015 Jan-Feb;61(1):31-6.Sauer CM, Yuh DD, Bonde P. Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation use has�increased by 433% in adults in the United States from 2006 to 2011. ASAIO J. 2015 Jan-Feb;61(1):31-6.Can we improve the outcome?Management philosophy…Slide Number 38Bonde et al, JACC, Nov, 2014Slide Number 40Slide Number 41But CPR can save lives in cardiac arrest…..CPRCPRCPRCPRRomantic therapy with no actual effect….Ohh…but they are destined to die....Not true…..Overall Patient OutcomesBitter truths….ECMO��Even Corpses Maintain OxygenationBeware……Slide Number 54Outcomes directly proportional to surgeon investment….Devices are getting better…..Incremental progress can be good….But incremental innovation has its price….It is not guaranteed forever..Destination should be in mind before starting ECMO …..Adult strategy is not same as neonatal or pediatric P ≠ C ≠ ETechnique vs TardinessRevenue vs ReasonValue vs VirtueTool not therapyInnovation is the key….Modified SurfacesBreaking the Time Barrier of Drop BouncingSuper non-thrombotic surfaceLets see what you will do….A 82 years old wife of former hospital CEO on five maxed out inotropes/pressors, BP: 60, baseline EF: 10%, creatinine 4, BMI of 40, coded for 120 minutesPlease call the priest!Thank you….