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Master Plumbers Council of the City of New York, Inc. * 240-21 Braddock Avenue, Bellerose, NY 11426 * (718) 793-6300

A NEWSLETTER PUBLICATION OF THE MASTER PLUMBERS COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK, INC.

VOICEThe

o f t h e L i c e n s e d M a s t e r P l u m b e r

Vol. 15, Issue 4August 2015

In this Edition:DOB Updates

Con Edison Updates

DOB BOILER DIVISION ISSUES

DOB Boiler Inspectors have begun to note issues on new, as well as existing, vent connectors during their first test inspections. As licensed

professionals, it is our responsibility to fully understand and follow all codes that pertain to venting appliances. For gas appliances, the relevant code is the New York City Fuel Gas Code (NYC FGC) and for fuel burning appliances the code to follow is the NYC Mechanical Code. For any job filed after December 31, 2014, the 2014 version of each code must be utilized. In addition to the code, the installer must strictly follow the manufacturer’s installation instructions relating to approved materials. In some cases the manufacturer’s specifications for venting may be more stringent than the code.

The Boiler Division inspectors sometimes encounter installations that utilize materials that are not approved for the particular appliance that has been installed. In some cases, that piping may be of the proper material, but it is not the proper gauge for that installation. In other cases, the vent materials are not of the proper type. An example of this is when an appliance requires a B vent or another manufactured system and the plumber installs a C vent system.

Each code lists the specific definitions to be used for that code. The first sentence of this article mentions vent connectors. The NYC FGC defines a vent connector as a pipe that connects an appliance to a chimney. It also defines an appliance as an apparatus or device that utilizes gas as a fuel or raw materials to produce light, heat, power refrigeration or air conditioning. The definitions of these terms is important because it governs which code should be followed for particular installations. The definition of an appliance in the

NYC Mechanical Code (any apparatus or device that is manufactured and designed to utilize energy and for which this code provides specific requirements) is different than in the NYC FGC. The distinction is important because it will determine which code you should follow.

The most common appliance a plumber will vent is a Category 1 gas appliance. Both the NYC Mechanical Codes (Chapter 8) and the NYC FGC (Chapter 5) reference chimneys and vents. Since we are discussing a gas appliance, we would reference and follow the NYC FGC for the installation. The NYC FGC section 503.10 lists the requirements for vent connectors for Category 1 appliances. The code defines a Category 1 appliance as one that operates with a nonpositive vent static pressure and with a vent gas temperature that avoids excessive condensate production in the vent.

Section 503.10.2.4 defines the types of materials that can be utilized for a low heat appliance. A low heat appliance is defined as an appliance in which the products of combustion at the point of entrance to the flue under normal operating conditions, have a temperature of 1,000˚F or less. This section lists galvanized steel pipe as an approved material, providing it meets the minimum thickness as listed in TABLE 503.10.2.4 (page 3).

The code refers to single wall galvanized metal piping as Type C vents, which are used only for venting gas or oil. This is the least expensive of the pipes. When utilized, C vent crimps must go away from the appliance and towards the chimney or vent.

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The Voice of the Licensed Master Plumber,a membership publication of the NYCMPC.

All text for articles is due by the 1st day of themonth prior to publication.

We welcome your suggestions and contributions.

NYCMPC Board PresidentDarren Lundin

Executive DirectorJohn F. DeLillo, Jr.

[email protected]

EditorsGeorge Bassolino

Brittni Rhoads

GraphicsJanene Meyerowitz

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GENERAL DISCLAIMER STATEMENT:The information provided in this newsletter is to be used only

to educate businesses and the general public on plumbing and related construction issues that may affect their daily business

or personal lives. All opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors only and do not necessarily represent the opinions of the NYCMPC, its officers, Board of Directors,

the NYCMPC newsletter or its editors. The NYCMPC does not guarantee the accuracy or the correctness of advertising, articles

or references to information sources herein, nor does the NYCMPC intend to endorse, rate, or otherwise officially comment on

products available. Therefore, the readers are cautioned to rely on information contained herein at their own risk. All information

that is available to you through this newsletter is provided “as is” without warranty or condition of any kind, either expressed or implied, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties

of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. The information contained in the newsletter is believed to be correct

and accurate. However, the NYCMPC cannot and will not assume responsibility for the consequences of errors contained in the

articles or misapplication of any information provided. NYCMPC expressly disclaims any liability for any special, incidental, or

consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues, or lost profits, resulting from the use or misuse.

A Message from the ExecutiveDirector of the Master Plumbers CouncilSummer is quickly coming to an end and everyone is getting back to work. The MPC has been diligently following up on many important issues. This edition of the Voice touches briefly on several industry issues, which will be followed up with full length articles in the future.

As a business owner, it is important to have an accurate source of information in order to operate your business properly. One way is by participating in an industry association, like the MPC, that informs you of changes as they occur. This timely and accurate information gives you the opportunity and ability to make the necessary adjustments proactively. Another way, is to be reactive, such as when an inspector fails your job because you did not follow a published procedure or code interpretation. To spend most of your day putting out fires is not the best use of your time.

One of the main objectives of the MPC is to gather information, disseminate it and publish it for the industry to utilize. Through our Plumbing Sub-Operations Committee and License Board Members we work closely with the DOB to discuss and clarify industry issues. We operate under the principle that all information must be properly published in order for it to be relevant and legally binding. Therefore, transparency is essential. There are many instances where members tell us that they were informed of information that is contrary to the published code, rules or other official procedures. Our committees work diligently to review every claim, identify trends and request clarification or confirmation of the code or procedure from the Department. We try to publish the answers in this newsletter and on our website for the entire industry to utilize. In order for us to accomplish this, we need to have the DOB as an active partner in the process. In many cases, they are ready and willing to work with us on important industry issues.

Here at the MPC, we are looking forward to our upcoming events and programs. On October 20, 2015, we will be hosting our 8th Annual Education & Energy Efficiency Trade Expo at Russo’s on the Bay. Every year, companies take the great opportunity to come out and exhibit their products and services to industry professionals. It is also a great opportunity to attend educational seminars, which are listed on page 11 of this issue and will also be posted on our website.

If you would like to find out more about the benefits of being an MPC member, please call us at (718) 793-6300.

Best Regards,

Executive Director, NYCMPC


DOB BOILER DIVISION ISSUESNOTE: There is nothing to prohibit a plumber from installing a heavier gauge other than what is listed above. Most suppliers generally provide 26 US gauge sheet metal and any other gauge may be a special order with a lead time.

OTHER VENTING MATERIALS FOR CATEGORY 1 GAS APPLIANCES:

Some manufacturers may approve, recommend or require the use of B vent for a vent connector material for gas appliances. B vent is a double wall type of pipe which incorporates an outer galvanized shell with an aluminum metal inner tube. There is an air gap between the metals, which provides insulating properties, minimizes heat loss and helps reduce condensation. It is generally used on applications when the flue gas temperature does not exceed 500˚F. They are NOT for use on any application where there is positive pressure.

In applications (boiler/burner applications), where there is a positive pressure in the flue or there is a gas oil combination system, Type C vents and B vents will NOT be acceptable, so other code and manufacturer approved materials must be utilized.


CONNECTING C VENT PIPING:

Section 503.10.7 of the NYC FGC covers the joints of the vent connectors.

It states that joints between sections of connector piping and connections to flue collars or draft hood outlets, shall be fastened by one of the following methods:

1. Sheet metal screws

2. According to the manufacturer’s instructions

3. Welding

This section is a very brief refresher on the code listed methods of venting Category 1 gas appliances. We will bring you additional information in upcoming Friday updates and e-mail blasts.

At this point, everyone should have purchased and re-viewed the new 2014 code books. If you have not done so, below you will find where to purchase or view the new code books:

WHERE TO PURCHASE:

NYC City Store

Email: [email protected]

Retail Locations: Manhattan Municipal BuildingOne Centre Street, North Plaza. New York City, 10007

Manhattan Office of the City Clerk 141 Worth Street. New York City, 10013

International Code Council: http://www.iccsafe.org/

To View for Free:

DOB Codes:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/html/codes_and_refer-ence_materials/2014_cons_codes_table_of_contents.shtml#plumb

The time to plan and prepare for the vent installation is when you bid the project. At that time, you should thor-oughly review the installation and determine the meth-ods and materials required for the appliance that you will be installing. If you have any questions or concerns, you should contact the manufacturer’s representative, your engineer or the Boiler Division directly. Mr. Daly can be contacted at [email protected].

In summation, when installing a gas appliance:

• Follow the NYC FGC for venting requirements.

• Galvanized sheet metal MAY be acceptable.

• It MAY be connected with sheet metal screws or rivets.

• It is your responsibility as a licensed plumber to understand and follow the published code.

If you install a project in compliance with the published code and the manufacturers specifications, you should pass any plumbing and boiler inspections. If you have any issues, please send a copy of the failed inspection report to the DOB Operations Committee at [email protected]. Members of the committee will review your report and address any discrepancies between the report and the published code. Not only is the committee here to help, it is also beneficial to reach out to our Affiliate Members who represent any gas equipment. Please visit our website (www.nycmpc.org) for a full list of MPC Affiliate Members.

DOB BOILER DIVISION ISSUES

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Ralph P. Casella, Esq. has been representing plumbers since 1971 in the following:

Applications for Licensing, Buildings Department and OATH Investigations,

Disciplinary Matters, Challenging License Application Denials in Court, Appeals, and

Appearances before Licensing Board.

Ralph P. Casella is the former attorney for the Richmond County Plumbing Contractor’s Association, Plumbers Union Local 371;

Plumbers Union Local 1, Brooklyn and Queens; Plumbers Union Local 1 for the City of New

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Contact Ralph Casella at(718) 979-1137

“Ralph Casella is the most knowledgeable attorney I’ve met regarding the plumbing industry, licensing, disciplinary matters

and general plumbing business practices”

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The DOB has cancelled the regularly scheduled meetings for June, July and August of 2015. The MPC has addressed this issue with the DOB and is awaiting a reply.

DIRECTORS COMMENTS: It is unfortunate for both the industry and the Department that these meetings have not been held on a consistent basis over the past year. The purpose of the meetings is to discuss industry issues such as operational procedures and code interpretations. When an issue has been resolved the results will be printed as meeting minutes, reviewed and then published for use by the industry. We will be addressing this issue at the Sep-tember 2015 meeting and will report back in a future issue of the Voice.

DOB LICENSE EXAM UPDATES:In the April 2015 issue we reported that the written exam for Licensed Master Plumbers had been suspended due to the fact that the DOB had not been updated to reflect the new code changes. It may take up to two months more for the test to be issued again.

DIRECTORS COMMENTS: It is unacceptable that nine months after the new code has come into effect that this has not been corrected. We call on the commissioner to order the License Board to immediately address and recti-fy this situation. We also extend our invitation to provide help in the process of updating and implementing both the practical and written exams.

ILLEGAL PRACTICES UPDATES:Our Association has recently presented several potential illegal practices cases to the DOB. The cases appear to have been resolved. Without getting into detail, the members of the committee are not satisfied with the results and we are waiting to see if any further actions will be taken.

DIRECTORS COMMENTS: We will be addressing this issue immediately after Labor Day. As we have stated in previous issues our committees have had meetings with all of the departments that are responsible for enforcement of the code. We explained in great detail how dangerous it can be for public safety to have unqualified persons en-gaging in plumbing work, especially projects that involve gas piping. Everyone was in agreement that this should be a top priority and we were instructed to provide cases for them to review. We will report details of our meetings in a future issue of the VOICE.


Some of our members have asked our operations committee if they are required to file an ALT-2 work type to replace an existing gas furnace. Section 28-101.5 of the Administrative code defines Limited Plumbing Alterations. The replacement of an existing furnace is limited in scope as per the definition and should be filed as a Category 2 filing

The current published code allows for replacing gas furnaces as follows.

Category 1 vented replacement units can be filed by either a manual or e filed LAA application.

Category 2 units require a manual application.

Category 3 units can be filed following RCNY101-02.

Category 4 units can be filed following RCNY101-02.

The following chart is from the LAA Appliance guide that was developed between the Industry and the DOB. This DRAFT guide is under review by the Department at this time. We will inquire as to the status at our September Plumbing Sub Operations meeting.

The complete DRAFT Appliance and Fixture guide is available for viewing on our website.

LAA FILING ISSUES: REPLACEMENT OF GAS FURNACES

EDITOR’S NOTE: The code clearly states that an LAA may NOT be used to establish a heating system. An Alt-2 type filing is required to do that work. All appliance installation work is subject to all of the requirements of Article 106 ( Asbestos) of the administrative code.

The code committee members have suggested that in future codes that the replacement of a Category 1 vented unit should be permitted to be undertaken under section 28-105.4.4 (Ordinary Plumbing work). They would also like to point out that work can always be undertaken under section 28-105.4.1 (Emergency Work). Please note that it your responsibility to ensure there are no existing violations on the property that may prohibit the issuance of a permit.


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CON EDISON UPDATE

YELLOW BOOK CHANGES

Con Edison has recently updated the Yellow Book. Our Utility Committee has reviewed the changes and is ad-dressing some potential issues and inconsistencies direct-ly with Con Edison.

One of the major changes is the requirement to install strainers on certain high pressure gas services. The ef-fective date of this change was August 15, 2015 and our committee requested that the strainer requirement be applied only to installations where service layouts were issued after May 01, 2015. In response, Con Edison has refused to do this, but has agreed to review any cases where the retroactive installation of a strainer on an al-ready active case could prove to be a hardship.

Another change was the requirement to butt weld and radiograph welds for installations where the B838 regu-lators are installed. These regulators have been installed without these requirements for the past two years with-out incident.

A new drawing, 507002, was created for the installation of rotary gas meters larger than 4”. If you have a project (pre April 01, 2015), where you fabricated one of these rigs under the previous G641 drawing, you may need to obtain a waiver to utilize that rig without any modifica-tions.

A copy of the latest gas yellow book can be found at: www.coned.com/es/specs/gasyellowbook.pdf

Our committee has also questioned why Con Edison only lists specific manufacturers for certain items such as head of service and branch valves and does not just list a published standard. Many plumbers have had to change out valves that did not meet the published specifications. Some plumbers have reported to us that Con Edison has not been using listed head of service valves in certain applications and we are following up to verify if this is true and to find out which authority would allow them to deviate from their published specifications.

NEW GENERAL MANAGER OF ENERGY SERVICES

In June of 2015, David DeSanti, the General Manager of Energy Services was promoted and moved to a new position within Con Edison. The MPC would like to wish him good luck in his new position and thank him for the great work he did as a liaison between the Utility and our industry. He was instrumental in setting up the escala-tion procedure and creating the photo sleeve inspection process. As of July 01, 2015, Won Choe has replaced Mr. DeSanti as the General Manager of Energy Services. The Utility Committee has requested a meeting with Mr. Choe and his staff and we look forward to reporting on this in a future issue of the Voice.


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