Registered Number 764 – Model I-K-2 – Hakodate, Japan 1919 Model I-K-2 piston pumper/hose car. Ahrens-Fox chassis, 156” wheelbase. 4 cyl. Ahrens-Fox Improved T-head motor #930, 5-7/8" x 7", 55.22 ALAM horsepower, 80 brake horsepower, dual exhaust valves. 20" cone clutch. 40-gallon gasoline tank. 20" steering wheel.

700 GPM Ahrens-Fox front-mount piston pump, 4-3/8" x 6" major (1.515 gallons per revolution), 3-3/4" x 6” minor side (1.101

GPR). Gear ratio, engine to pump, 56-15 (3.73 to 1). Hosebed capacity 1250’ of 2-1/2” hose. 12" bell, 20’ extension and 12’ roof

ladder (folding hooks).

July 20, 1918: Bid proposal. Salesman J. Gossner, Ahrens-Fox export agent, Imperial Export Co., 15-25 Whitehall St., New York,

NY.

J. Gossner, Ahrens-Fox export agent

Built for Okura & Co., agents for Japan Automobile Co., 30 Church St., New York, NY. [30 Church was then the Hudson &

Manhattan Railroad building—in 1976, 30 Church was the site of the World Trade Center, one of whose tenants was this same Okura

& Company, but they had no records nor any memory of ever having sold fire engines. Hudson & Manhattan Railroad was, in 1976,

known as Port Authority Trans-Hudson, or PATH, and ran trains from Jersey City, NJ, under the Hudson River with its last station in

a sub-basement of the World Trade Center.] Delivery in 200 working days after receipt of contract.

Oct. 16, 1918: Okura & Co. sales order #1777, for shipment to Japan as a demonstrator vehicle of Japan Automobile Co. Okura was

Ahrens-Fox’s sales agent for Japan, Korea, Formosa, Manchuria, and Tsiu-Tau.

Oct. 23, 1918: Contract between Okura & Co. and Ahrens-Fox. This rig to be used as a demonstrator to make sales to Japanese fire departments.

January 21, 1919: Ordered by Okura & Company for Japan Automobile Company of Yokohama.

Tested in Cincinnati, driven on road test by John Edmondson, up Marshal l Avenue hill in high gear. New wood dash board, Boston

belting (suction hoses?). On factory test in Cincinnati, pumped 825 gpm at 125 psi, 423 gpm at 200 psi, 353 gpm at 250 psi, tested by

AJ and JB.

Feb. 15, 1919: Shipped from Cincinnati to New York, to ship to Japan. Boxed for export. Crate marked 17 KO 77. Price to Japan

Automobile Company $10,791.18 with extras.

On demonstration at Imperial Palace in Tokyo, pumped 750 GPM and threw a stream of water approximately 151’6”.

August, 1919: Sold for 28,000 yen (approximately $9,800) by Japan Automobile Company to the citizens of Hakodate, Japan, who

gave it to the city fire department. Delivered, tested, and accepted. Replaced 1879 steam fire engine built in England.

March 3, 1920: Fire & Water Engineering magazine, page 501—HAKODATE CITY PURCHSES AMERICAN PUMPER. Hakodate

City, Japan, recently purchased an Ahrens-Fox pumper, and the illustration on this page shows the group present at the official test at

the Lotus Pond of the Imperial Palace in Tokyo. The group consists of the purchasing committee and the authorities of the Tokyo fire

department as follows: 1, Mr. T. Ninagawa, Sales Manager, Japan Automobile Co. (J.A.C.); 2, Mr. Qwasaki, treasurer, Hakodate City;

3, Mr. Y. Kasai, Chief Engineer of Tokyo fire department; 4, Mr. D. Suyewaga, vice-mayor, Hakodate; 5, Mr. Kochi, sales dept.,

J.A.C.; 6, Mr. Y. Katsuta, Chief of Hakodate fire department; 7, Mr. Shida, captain of Tokyo fire department; 8, Mr. Umemura, assistant engineer, J.A.C.; 9, Mr. Shibato, engineer, J.A.C.; 10, Mr. Schimidzu, Captain, Tokyo fire department.

Caption for above photo, from March 3, 1920 Fire & Water Engineering magazine, page 501: “Pumper Purchased by Hakodate City, After Test In Front of Lotus Pond, of Imperial Palace, Tokio, Japan.”

1920: Citizens of Hakodate contributed another 56,000 yen (approximately $19,600) to buy two more Ahrens-Fox Model

I-K-2 piston pumpers (#789 and #1101) and give to the fire department.

June 1921: Fire destroyed 4,000 homes at Hakodate, Japan.

Port City of Hakodate in 1930

On March 21, 1934 a fire started at 6:53 p.m. in a house located within the Sumiyoshi area of Hakodate. Over two days, burning

debris fanned by strong 70 mile per hour gale winds, set fire to the surrounding areas including a local court, department store, school

and hospital. According to official documents, 2,166 people lost their lives, with 9,485 injured, 145,500 people made homeless, and

11,055 buildings lost. At the time was the 4th worst fire in recorded human history. Destroyed 80% of the city, including one of the city’s two 1921 Ahrens-Fox Model I-K-2 piston pumpers (#789 and 1101).

1934 fire at Hakodate, Japan

Friday, Mar. 23, 1934

1,000 dead as fire destroys Hakodate

Approximately 1,000 persons [total was 2,000] are reported to have been killed and a greater number injured in the

conflagration which destroyed about four-fifths of the city of Hakodate, chief port of Hokkaido, Wednesday night. More

than 30,000 homes and shops were burned.

Starting at 7 p.m. in the southern end of Hakodate when a storm blew down the chimney of a public bathhouse, the

flames quickly spread and raged through the city for 12 1/2 hours, being brought under control this morning when the wind

subsided.

Hakodate firemen battled valiantly to control the blaze in its earlier stages, but the extreme wind made their efforts futile.

Of the city's 40,000 houses, 30,000 structures were demolished and 150,000 persons are reportedly homeless.

Exact figures are unobtainable as communication was severed with the burning of the wireless station, telephone and

telegraph offices and JOVK radio broadcasting station. Scanty details have been reported by wireless from the Tenyu

Maru, a ship anchored in Hakodate harbor.

Fire in Hakodate, Japan 1934

Hakodate 1919 Ahrens-Fox I-K-2 #764 as it looks today in museum at Hakodate firehouse.

Email: fd-hakodate@city.hakodate.hokkaido.jp

Hakodate 1919 Ahrens-Fox I-K-2 #764

Received Aug 1919 – replaced an 1879 steamer made in England

Cost 28,000 yen (roughly $9800) – gift of the citizens of Hakodate, first of its kind in Japan

Had a crew of ten

Could throw a stream of water to a distance of 46.2 meters (approximately 151’6”) 2,838 liters (750 gallons) per minutes

Length 6m 36cm (about 20’9”)

Width 2m 7cm (about 6’10”)

Height 2m 45cm (about 8 feet, presumably to top of spotlight)

Weight 7 tons fully equipped

Registered Number 788 – Model I-K-2 – Yokohama, Japan 1921 Model I-K-2 piston pumper/hose car. Same as #762. Motor #959.

Feb. 5, 1920: Bid proposal. Salesman J. Gossner, Ahrens-Fox export agent, Imperial Export Co., 15-25 Whitehall St., New York, NY.

Delivery to be made within 60 days to Okura & Co., agents for Japan Automobile Co., 30 Church St., New York, NY, for shipment to

Yokohama, Japan. Okura sales order #3345. Shipping crate to be marked: 33 45 KO Yokohama, and include weight, dimensions, and

contents of the crate.

December 29, 1920: First factory test.

January 12, 1921: Final factory test.

Jan. 15, 1921: Shipped via H. Yanney Trucking and Penn Railroad to New York, NY, for shipment to Japan Automobile Company,

Yokohama, Japan (Ahrens-Fox records don’t show it, but the ultimate final customer was to be Hakodate, Japan). Batteries on all Ahrens-Foxes to Japan were shipped “bone dry”.

Truck carrying #788 overturned en route to New York for loading on ship to Japan. As a result, this pumper was never delivered to

Japan. The wrecked pumper #788 was returned to the Ahrens-Fox factory in Cincinnati and was rebuilt as #796 for Stoughton, MA.

Reg. No. 1101 was built and shipped to Yokohama to replace the wrecked #788 for the Japan order.

Registered Number 789 – Model I-K-2 – Yokohama, Japan 1921 Model I-K-2 piston pumper/hose car. Same as #762. Motor #960.

1920: Bid proposal for Okura & Co., for shipment to Yokohama. Sale by J. Gossner, Ahrens-Fox export agent, New York, NY.

Jan. 25, 1921: Shipped to Yokohama, Japan, by H. Yanney Trucking to Big 4 Railroad. Batteries on all Ahrens-Foxes to Japan were

shipped “bone dry”. Price to Japan Automobile Company $11,350. Boxed for export, no wood chain guards, tires 36x5” front, 36x8”

rear, solid rubber. 2” Schebler carburetor, disc clutch, box containing electrolyte, battery Cincinnati #5023, new spring base.

1921: Citizens of Hakodate, Japan, purchased this pumper and #1101 from Japan Automobile Company, and gave them to the

Hakodate fire department, for 28,000 yen (approximately $9,800) each. Along with #764 purchased and donated in August 1919,

Hakodate fire department had three Ahrens-Fox Model I-K-2 piston pumpers.

On March 21, 1934 a fire started at 6:53 p.m. in a house located within the Sumiyoshi area. Over two days, burning debris fanned by

strong 70 mile per hour gale winds, set fire to the surrounding areas including a local court, department store, school and hospital.

According to official documents, 2,166 people lost their lives, with 9,485 injured, 145,500 people made homeless, and 11,055

buildings lost. At the time was the 4th worst fire in recorded human history. Destroyed 80% of the city, including Hakodate’s 1921

Ahrens-Fox Model I-K-2 piston pumper #789.

Wrecked Ahrens-Fox #789 at March 1934 fire in Hakodate, Japan; below is another pumper of unknown make responding through

the flames, rubble, 70 MPH winds, and flying embers.

Registered Number 796 – Model I-K-4 – Stoughton, MA 1921 Model I-K-2 piston pumper and hose car, 750 GPM, four cylinder motor #966. Same as #762. Pneumatic front, solid rear tires.

March 12, 1921: Bid proposal to Stoughton, MA to build Model I-K-4 pumper #797. Delivery to be made in 100 days.

April 1, 1921: Ordered by Stoughton, MA. Sale by Harry Carlow, Taunton, MA. Due to urgent need for this pumper, Ahrens-Fox

shipped #796 to Stoughton, rebuild of wrecked #788, instead of building new pumper #797 for Stoughton.

April 7, 1921: Due to Stoughton’s urgent need for this pumper (less than 3 weeks delivery time), instead of building a new pumper

#797 for Stoughton, Ahrens-Fox instead started to rebuild I-K-2 Reg. #788, which was wrecked en route to New York bound for Yokohama, Japan, and convert it to an I-K-4 #796.

On road test before shipment, #796 was smoking and throwing oil, probably because it was a rebuilt wreck. Ahrens-Fox solved this

problem by installing an extra piston ring over piston air gaps.

April 19, 1921: Shipped to Stoughton, MA. Rebuild of wrecked Ahrens-Fox #788 for Japan. Battery box and tool box on this pumper

were the first ever with aluminum plate on top. Has “B” bracket inside frame (possibly for extra reinforcement due to frame damage in

the wreck of #788?), added booster tank, added hose reel in rear platform (#788, being an I-K-2, had no tank or reel), added wood

chain guard, installed 4-1/2” diameter pressure gauge.

April 20, 1921: Train left Cincinnati to bring #796 to Stoughton, MA.

In service as Engine 1, Stoughton, MA. Hood lettered STOUGHTON (top line) ENGINE 1 (bottom line), in serifed letters on top side

panel. Delivered with the pneumatic front and solid rear tires that were put on it for Japan, not the Fisk Cord tires that Stoughton

ordered; converted to the air tires as ordered, some time after delivery. Extra set of piston rings shipped with this engine (due to the

smoking and oil-throwing problem). Price $13,450.

Was still in service Nov. 6, 1941.

To private owner, North Reading, MA.

1971: Sold to Calvin D. Pixley, 43 Moulton St., Springfield, MA 01118, phone 737-0964.

1921 Ahrens-Fox I-K-4 #796, rebuild of wrecked 1921 I-K-2 #788 built for Hakodate, Japan, at SPAAMFAA antique fire engine

muster, Liverpool, NY, 1971 (Bob Ward photo)

Some of the fires this Ahrens-Fox fought

(Bill Hass photo, at Valhalla, NY, June, 1972)

The paint may be faded and the upholstery tattered, but the City Seal of Stoughton, MA, is still on the seat riser! (Ed Hass photo, at

Valhalla, NY, June, 1973)

Line of Ahrens-Fox piston pumpers at antique fire engine muster, Kensico Dam, Valhalla, NY, June, 1973. Cal Pixley’s 1921 I-K-4

#796 is in foreground. Next in line are Halesite, NY 1925 J-S-2 #1237 and Ho-Ho-Kus, NJ 1931 M-S-4 #1780.

(Ed Hass photo)

Cal Pixley’s #796 sandwiched between two other Ahrens-Fox piston pumpers at Valhalla, NY, June, 1973. At left is A.J. Quirk’s 1994 HT #3481 (ex-Freeport, NY), and at right is Jim Murray’s 1939 HT #3456, ex-Belleville, NJ. (Bill Hass photo)

(Bob Ward collection)

June 26, 1971: At Fairchester Hose Haulers muster, Kensico Dam, Valhalla, NY.

June 24, 1972: One of 14 Ahrens-Foxes at Fairchester Hose Haulers muster, Kensico Dam, Valhalla, NY. Pumped water at draft in 6.2 seconds.

June 23, 1973: One of 18 Ahrens-Foxes at Fairchester Hose Haulers muster, Kensico Dam, Valhalla, NY.

Jan., 1976: Sold to Melvin Wildberger, Earlville, NY 13332. Later moved to Chestnut Ridge, Housatonic, MA. 01236.

Mel Wildberger’s Fox #796 pumping into his 1893 Hale water (ex-New Orleans).

April. 1985: Sold to Keith F. Franz, 4349 Hillside Rd., Slinger, WI 53086, (414) 644-5784. Difficulty obtaining clear title: Mel

Wildberger vanished, and person who was storing it does not own it to sell to Franz.

November 11, 1994: Herb Barber (1937 YC #9028) told me that he saw this rig first week in October in storage at Lime Rock, NY.

Dr. Kue of New York City started storing it in barn at his summer home in Lime Rock for Mel Wildberger about 15 years ago, but Wildberger did not pay the storage fees he owed, then vanished. Dr. Kue has only recently obtained clear title to it, and now wants to

sell it for $20,000. Still runs, complete including equipment (even has Ahrens-Fox extinguisher), still lettered Stoughton on hood and

Reg. #796 on plate on side.

Registered Number 797 – Model I-K-4 – New Boston, OH 1921 Model I-K-4 piston pumper and hose car. Same as #751. Fisk Cord pneumatic tires. Motor #970.

March 12, 1921: Bid proposal to Stoughton, MA to build Model I-K-4 pumper #797. Delivery to be made in 100 days.

April 1, 1921: Ordered by Stoughton, MA. Sale by Harry Carlow, Taunton, MA. Due to urgent need for this pumper, shipped #796,

rebuild of wrecked #788, instead of building new pumper #797 for Stoughton. #796 was shipped to Stoughton on

April 19, 1921.

April 30, 1921: I-K-4 #797 ordered by New Boston, OH, to have Goodyear pneumatic tires.

July 2, 1921: Shipped to New Boston, OH. Sale by John P. Ahrens, Cincinnati, OH. Delivered with the Fisk Cord tires that were on it

when it was originally built for Stoughton, MA. First fire engine of the newly-formed paid fire department.

Tuesday July 5, 1921 Portsmouth (OH) Daily Times page 3

July 19, 1921 Portsmouth (Ohio) Daily Times page 9 – article about city council meeting in New Boston, OH.

April, 1990: Sold to Joe Craynon, 5880 Princeton-Glendale Rd., Hamilton, OH 45011, (513) 887-0707, who found it in a junkyard

near New Boston.

Registered Number 1101 – Model I-K-2 – Yokohama, Japan 1921 Model I-K-2 piston pumper/hose car. Ahrens-Fox chassis, 156” wheelbase. 4 cyl. Ahrens-Fox Improved T-head motor #974, 5-7/8" x 7", 55.22 ALAM horsepower, 80 brake horsepower, dual exhaust valves. 20" cone clutch. 40-gallon gasoline tank. 20" steering wheel.

700 GPM Ahrens-Fox front-mount piston pump, 4-3/8" x 6" major (1.515 gallons per revolution), 3-3/4" x 6” minor side (1.101

GPR). Gear ratio, engine to pump, 56-15 (3.73 to 1). Hosebed capacity 1250’ of 2-1/2” hose. 12" bell, 20’ extension and 12’ roof

ladder (folding hooks).

Pneumatic front, solid rubber rear tires. Motor #974. Ahrens-Fox relief valve.

July 21, 1921: Ordered by Okura &Co., New York, for Japan Automobile Company, Yokohama, Japan, to replace #788 for Hakodate, Japan, which was wrecked in shipment. #788 in turn had been rebuilt as #796 for Stoughton, MA.

Tested in Cincinnati by AWB and Emil Graf. Pumped 772 gpm at 124 psi, 390 gpm at 205 psi, 346 gpm at 250 psi.

August 12, 1921: Left factory for first time, loaded on truck of H. Yanney, taken to railroad depot to be loaded in boxcar of Big 4

Railroad. Batteries on all Ahrens-Foxes to Japan were shipped “bone dry”.

August 13, 1921: Shipped from Cincinnati rail depot to New York, NY. Price to Japan Automobile Company $10,800, plus $262.50

extras. Battery shipped dry.

Aug. 26, 1921: Okura & Co. loaded #1101 at Port of New York on freighter ship to Japan Automobile Co., Yokohama.

Japan Automobile Co. sold #1101 for 28,000 yen (approximately $9,800) to citizens of Hakodate, Japan, who gave it to the Hakodate

fire department. Either #789 or #1101 was destroyed by fire March 21, 1934.

On March 21, 1934 a fire started at 6:53 p.m. in a house located within the Sumiyoshi area. Over two days, burning debris fanned by

strong 70 mile per hour gale winds, set fire to the surrounding areas including a local court, department store, school and hospital.

According to official documents, 2,166 people lost their lives, with 9,485 injured, 145,500 people made homeless, and 11,055 buildings lost. At the time was the 4th worst fire in recorded human history. Destroyed 80% of the city, including Hakodate’s 1921

Ahrens-Fox Model I-K-2 piston pumper #789.

Registered Number 1146 – Model K-S-2 – Tokyo, Japan 1923 Model K-S-2. Ahrens-Fox 4-cylinder motor #2501, 5-7/8” x 7”, first Ahrens-Fox motor with aluminum crankcase. 4-cylinder Ahrens-Fox front-mount piston pump, 3-3/4” x 6” minor, 4-3/8” x 6” major, engine to pump gear ratio 14-57.

Sept. 1-13, 1923: 1,000 separate seismic shocks struck Yokohama and Tokyo, destroying 315,824 houses, mostly made of bamboo.

Only structures of steel construction (such as bridges, and the Imperial Hotel) survived.

At 11.58am on Saturday, 1 September 1923, an earthquake measuring 8.3 on the Richter scale and with its epicenter in Sagami Bay,

about 50 miles south of Tokyo, wreaked havoc on an area extending from the popular resorts in the Hakone mountains (including

Mount Fuji) to the busy shipping lanes of Yokohama Bay and the densely populated, industrial city of Yokohama, and onwards 17

miles north to the Japanese capital of Tokyo. In Japan, the disaster is known as the Great Kanto Earthquake, ‘Kanto’ being the name of the affected region.

The earthquake released more energy than was expended during World War II. Officially it lasted for a stupendous four minutes, and

there are other reports of 10 minutes of ‘felt’ vibrations and up to 2.5 hours of constant motion. The following day, more than 300

aftershocks were recorded, including a ‘major event’ almost exactly 24 hours after the initial quake. The same number of aftershocks

were felt during the next three days.

All the tremors were accompanied by dramatic upheaval and depression of the earth – at Misaki, it rose by as much as 24 feet (7.3

meters) before gradually subsiding. All this movement resulted in thousands of landslides: the entire village of Nebukawa was buried

in a massive mudflow, killing hundreds. There was a tsunami as well, and crested at 36ft (11m) in some relatively unpopulated areas. After oil caught fire on Sept. 2, most of the city of Tokyo and surrounding regions were aflame, and approximately 142,000 people

died, 58,000 in Tokyo alone, with another 40,000 missing.

No less ferocious than the earthquake was the conflagration that followed the earth shaking. When the earthquake struck, coal or

charcoal cooking stoves were in use throughout Tokyo and Yokohama in preparation for the noontime meal and fires sprang up

everywhere within moments of the quake. Improper storage of chemicals and fuel further contributed to the holocaust. In Yokohama

alone, 88 separate fires began to burn simultaneously and the city was quickly engulfed in flames that raged for two days. Although

the recorded wind speed was lower in Yokohama than in Tokyo, fire-induced wind spawned numerous cyclones, which further spread

the flames. In Tokyo, the wind reached speeds of 17.9 miles per hour and became the chief obstacle to containing the fire.

Temperatures soared to 86 °F late into the night. The casualties from the fires are a horrifying combination of people who were

trapped in collapsed buildings and those who took refuge in areas that were later surrounded and consumed by fire. The greatest loss of life occurred at the Military Clothing Depot in Honjo Ward, where many of the refugees had gathered. Most of them carried

clothing, bedrolls, and furniture rescued from their homes. These materials served as a ready fuel source, and the engulfing flames

suffocated an estimated 40,000 people.

The need for better fire protection for Tokyo was obvious, and among other measures, a rush order was placed for a new Ahrens-

Fox piston pumper.

November 16, 1923: Shipped to Tokyo, Japan. Sale by J. Gossner, Ahrens-Fox export agent, New York, NY. Batteries on all Ahrens-

Foxes to Japan were shipped “bone dry”. $10,100.

#1164 in 1964 (courtesy Bob Schierle) and with relettered hood after restoration (courtesy Wayne Sorensen)

1982: Tokyo still has, in museum at repair shop of Tokyo Fire Board. Wood spoked wheels and solid tires front, steel wheels and

pneumatic tires rear.

From: timetraveller <franksidney1963@yahoo.com> To: ahrensfoxpreservation@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 11:08:42 AM Subject: [ahrensfoxpreservation] Japanese Foxes [3 Attachments]

[Attachment(s) from timetraveller included below]

Hi all,

I scanned the photo and postcard from the Tokyo Fox # 1146.

I took the photo in April 1997 and the postcard I got from someone earlier.

The Japanese text on them reads: "Marunouchi Fire Station"

The 3rd photo (black & white one) is from a French fire engine book and I assume that it's the same Fox as it's mention as a 1924

model.

Only the Japanese writing is different on it so haven't find out that meaning.

Never saw photos of the Hakodate # 764 and the Yokohama # 788; 789; 1101 ones.

Hope you like them.

Best wishes,

Frank

From: "takaest399@yahoo.co.jp" <takaest399@yahoo.co.jp> To: ehass@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 6:09 PM Subject: Re:Ahrens Fox in Tokyo Dear Mr.Hass

I am an amateur researcher of old fire engine.

In Tokyo Metropolitan FD Museum has 3 pre-War engines. Maxim, Ahrens Fox and Stutz. They came to Japan just

after Great earthquake in 1923

Ahrens Fox 1929? L= 6.8*W=2.0*H=2.45,Weight=5.2t Front solid tire

*Maxim 1925? L=7.12,W=2.09,H=2.99,Weight=3.1t oval tank is back of sheet

Plate side of Body shows Northern type( written in Japanese)

*Stutz 1924? L=6.96,W=2.18nH=2.49,Weight =5.5t

Specification or orher information are nothing.

Dimension are not correct. I am measuring now.

I enquired to SPAAMFAA and Webmaster of SPAAMFAA recomend you as a best resorce of Ahrens Fox.

I need some information on Ahrans Fox engine;

*Specification and other relating information

*Drawing; I am preparing drawings of there engines in order to make 1/25 models.

Please instruct about my enquiries. Best regards,

H.Takaura - Tokyo

From: "takaest399@yahoo.co.jp" <takaest399@yahoo.co.jp> To: ehass@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:23 AM Subject: Re:0803Ahrens Fox in Tokyo Dear Mr.Hass

I am continuing the study of Ahrens Fox.

My measurement of AF in Tokyo is;

WB=4310, Total body length L=6780 Front pump is 4 piston. They say 1924 version.

Measurement is not accurate, because it is not direct measure.

I will try again.

From photo on books I measured some.

*1922 JM2 750gpm WB=3930, L=6000

*1928 MS3 WB=4650,L=6900

These also not so accurate it is measurement from photo.

How to know details of the engine in Tokyo

*Specific type

*Dimension and other data.

I have some books, mostly photo, no data, no drawings.

Best regards,

H.Takaura Tokyo From: "takaest399@yahoo.co.jp" <takaest399@yahoo.co.jp> To: ehass@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 1:53 AM Subject: Fw: Re:0803-2Ahrens Fox in Tokyo

Dear Sir,

I will attach my sketch on estimated dimensions of Ahrens Fox engines.

Earlier types were apparently short WB.

Tokyo's AF 1924: wheel base is 4310mm. It is 170in Tyre size is 920mm-940mm(36in -37in)

Does it work to identify the model?

H.Takaura

From: "takaest399@yahoo.co.jp" <takaest399@yahoo.co.jp> To: ehass@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 8:44 PM Subject: Re:0805Ahrens Fox in Tokyo Dear Mr.Hass

Attached photo is Ahrens Fox in Tokyo.

This is which type? I will again negotiate to open bonnet next month.

I have few books on AF. Photo archive by Mr W.M..MacCall is good, but no data.

In Japan as I know two AF are existing. One is in Tokyo and the other is in Hakodate, Hokkaido.

Best regards,

H.Takaura Tokyo