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speaker Murphy: 'Q he House wtll be in session. We wf11 have

the prayer by Reverend Johnson.'' .11 I

Reverend Johnson: Witb grateful hearts we come before you:'

oh eternal God. because you have graciously preservedl

us this night. As fresh as was this morningy 0h Lord,

whose coolness swept away the heat of yesterday and whose

dew symbolized the cleansing of the earthy so fresh are

your mercfes to us every morning. Do not 1et the

vexing irritations of onehlday rob us of the hope and joy

afforded by another. Deal our spirits with a coolness

and cleanse our hearts with the dew of your merciesI

which are fresh to us this day and as the cool of the

morning gives way to the heat of summer's days lift our iI

eyes ever upward to the snow capped mountains of your' !

tll l t t b r o u g1l a 1 1. o f c ur r! o :1 n g s' w e ma y s t i 11 11 e '; C i.l C. t5 > l

. able to glorify your name. We entrust ourselves to

your keeping through Christ our Lord. Amen.''

Speaker Murphy: HI hope you men a11 listened to the words

fn that lovely prayer. Committee reports. Roll Call for

attendance. Roll Call for attendance. Messages from the

s e n a t e . ''

Clerk Seltke; '1A message trom the Senate by Mr. Feznaadesy'

j' Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the 1

House of Representatives that the Senate has refused to i. 1

concur Vith ehe House ïn the adoptioa of Amendments of l

House of Representatfves Bi11 of the following title, I

Senate Bfll 23. Action taken by the Senate June 21y

' 1973. Edward E. Fernandes, Secretary. Mr. Speakerp

I am dfrected to fnform the House of Representatives thaE

the Senate has refused to concur vith the House in the

adoption of the Amendments to the Blll'of'thè ?olliwlig '

tftle, Senate Bill 926. Actfon taken by the Senate

June 2l: 1973. Edward E. Fernandesm Secretary. Mr.

Speaker, I am dfrected to fnfcrm the House of Representati es

that the Senate has refused to concur with the House ïn1

' h ad o p t f on o f Amendmin t to t: he llo use to t b e B f 11 o ft e

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the following title, Senate Bill 926. Actfon taken

by the Senate June 21s 1973. Edward E. Fernandesy

secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am dfrected to fnform the 2II

' House of Representatives that tbe Senate bas refused to

concur with the House in the adoption of Amendment to

the House of Reprentatives Bill of the following tftle',

Senate Bill 367. Actioa taken by the Senate June 21:

1973. Edward E. Fernandess Secretary. Mr. SpeakeryjJ

I am directed to inform the House of Representatives

that the Senate has concurred kith the Rouse in the

adoption of House Amendments 1 & 2 to the Bfll of the

following title, Senate Bill 927 concurred in by the

Senate June 21, 1973. Edward E. Fernaadesp Secretary.

Mr. Speaker, I am directed to lnform the House of '

Representative that the Senate concurs with the House ia

the adoptiok of House Amendment //1 to the Bill of the

following title, Senate B111 368 concurred fn by the

Senate June 21y 1973. Edward E. Fernandesy Secretary.

Mr. Speaker: I am directed to inform the House of

Represeatatives that the Senate has concurred with the

House in the adoption of House Amendment //1 to a Bill '

of the following title, Senate Bill 392 concurred in by

' ' the Senate June 21y 1973. Edward E. Fernandesx Secretary.

Mr. Speakery I am directed to inform the House of

Representatives that the Senate concurred with the

House in the adoptioa'of House Ameadment #1 to a Bill

of the following titley Senate Bill l7z.concurred in by

the Senate June 21: 1973. Edvard E. Fernandesy Secretary.

Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of .

- Repre'sentatives that t:e senate coacurred with the

House in the adoption of House Amendment 71 to a BillL

of the following title; Senate Bill 169 concurred in

by the Senate June 21, 1973. Edward E. Fernandesy

' Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the

House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred

. with the House in the adoption of House Amendment //1

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to a Bfll of the followfng title, Senate 3111 168

concurred in by the Senate June 21, 1973. Edward E.

Fernandes, Secretary. Mr. Speakery I am directed to

inform the House of Representatives that the Senate

has concurred with the House in the adoption of House

Amendment ?/1 to a Bill of the following titley Senate

Bill 163 concurred in by the Senate June 21, 1973.

Edward Fernandea Secretary. Mr. Speakery amj1

directed to inform the House of Representatfves that

the Senate has coneurred with the House in the adoption

of House Amendment //1 to a Bill of the following title:

Senate Bill 47 concurred in by the Senate Juae 2l. 1973.

Edward E. Fernandes, Secretary. Mr. Speakery I am

directed to inform the House of Representatives that

the Senate has concurred with the House in the adoption

of Rouse Amendment //1 to a :111 of the fellowing tftle.

Senate Bill 27 concurred in by the Senate June 2l. 1973.

Edward E. Fernandea, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am

directed to inform the House of Representatives t.hat

the Senate has adopted the following preamble and

Joint Resolution, t:e adoption ôf which I am instructed

to ask concurrence of the Housey Senate Joint Resolution

32 adopted by ehe senaze June 21y 1973. Edward E.

Fernandes, Secretary. Mr. Speaker, am dfrected to

inform the House of Representatives that the Senate

bas concurred with the House in the passage of the

Bill of the following title, House Bill 647 together

wïth the following àmendments and passed by the Senate

as amended June 21 1973. Edward E. Fernandesy Secretary.

? Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the House of

Represeneatlves that the Senate has concurred vith

the House in the adopiion of the followfng preanble and

t Joint Resolutiony House Joint Resolution 17 conuurred;

in by the Senate June 21, 1973. Edward E. Fernandes,

j Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the( House of Representatives that the Senate bas passed

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the Bf11 of the folloufng tftle the passage of whfch

I am instructed to ask concurrence of the House, senate :

Bill 291, 443, 478, 494, 503, 591, 620, 621. 659. 699,

701, 801, 808, strike 801. 808, 883, 1142, 1148, 1154,

1157, 1158: 1175 passed the Senate June 21. Edward

E. Fernandess Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to

inform the House of Representatfves that the Senate

has passed the Bills of the followingutftle the passage''gL'

of which I am instructed to ask concurrence of the '

House. Senate Bill 449, 698. 899. 1159, 1160, 1178. 1192

passed the Senate June 21: 1973. Edward E. Fernandes,Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am dfreeted to inform the

House of Representatives that the Senate has concurred

with the House in the passage of the Bill of the following!

tftle, House Bi11 547, 582, 583, 588 passed the senate

June 21: 1973. Edward E. Fernandes: Secretary . Mr.

Speaker: I am directed to inform the House of Representati es

that the Senate has,'refused Eo..recede from thefr

Amendment //1 to a Bill of the followiug titlea House

Bill 3l8 and I am further directed to fnform the

House of Representatives that the Senate has-requested?

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a Committee of Conference to conslst of five Members

from each Eouse to eonsider the difference:of the

. two Houses, actlon taken by the Senate June 21> 1973.

Edward E. Fernandesy Secretary. Mr. Speakerp I am

' directed to inform the House of Representatives that

the Senate has refused to recede from their Amendment //1. to a Bill of the following title, nouse B111 827 and

1 am further directed to inform the House of Representatfv s

that the Senate has requested a Commtttee Conference tol' consist of five Members of eacb House to consider the)

difference of the two Houses fn regard to the lnendments,l i taken by the Senate June 2l, 1973. Edward E.l RQt On(( Fernandes. Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to

fnform the House of Representatives that the Senate has

refused to recede from thefr Amendment //1 to a Bill of

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the following title: House Bill 25 and I am furtherI . l1 i

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directed to inform the House of Representatives that . 1

tbe Senate requests a Committee Conference to consfst

of five Members from each House to consider the ' II

difference of tbe two Houses in regard to the Amendmenty

actfon taken by the Senate June 2ly 1973. Edward E.

Fernandes: Secretary. Mr. Speakèr, I'am directed to

inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has

refused to adopt the Conference Committee Report on

Senate Amendment //1 to House Bill 24 and the Senate

requests a second Conference Committee to consist of

five Members from each House to consider the difference

between the two Houses in regard to Senate Amendment #1

! to the said Bill. I am further directed to fnform the

House of Representattves that the Chairman of the '

Committee on Committees of the Senate has appointed such . ': .

. second Conference Committee, Senate Committeey Senators

Soper, Regner: Roek: Romano: fn actfon taken by the

Senate, June 21, 1973. Edward E. Fernandess Secretary.

No further messages.

speaker Murphy: HCommittee Reports.''

Clerk Selcke: 11Mr. Washburn from Appropriations to which

Senate Bills 278, 511s 531: 581, 614. 616. 783% 923

and 1195 vere referred reports the same back with

' the recommendation that the Bills do pass. Mr. Washburn

1, . from Approprfations to which Senate Bills 1194, 1174.

1173. 704, 479, 377. 369, 297, 287 and l42 were referred

reports the same back with Amendments thereto with the '

recommendation that the Amendments be adopted and the '

u Bills as amended do pass. Mr. North from Cities and

Roads to wbich Senate Bills 93, 157..263. 264, 303. 317.

328, 329, 647, 660. 661. 940, 1027, 1100 and 646 were

referred reports tbe same back with the recommendation

that the Bllls do pass. Mr. North from Cities and Roads

to which Senate Bil1 981 was referred reports the same

back with Amendments thereto with the recommendation that

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the Amendments be adopted and tbe Bill as amended do

pass. Mr. Capuzi from Human, Resources to which Senatc

Bills 824, 826, 829, 830, 910, 1049. 1050, 1051 were

referred reports the same back with the recommendationI

that the Bilts do pass. Mr. Capuzi from Human ResourcesI

to which Senate Bitl 827 was referred reports the same tback with Amendments thereto with the recommendatfon '

that the Amendmeats be adopted aad the Bill as amended. jd

o pass. Mr. Wolf from Veterans Affafrs, Personnel

and Penslons to which Senate Bills 89y 189, 252, 451.

547, 724 and 756 were referred reports the same back

with the recommendation that the Bills do pass. Mr.

Wolf from Veterans Affairs, Personnel and Pensions to .

whtch Senate Bills 258, 757 and 1145 were referred reports

the same back with che recommendation that the Bills do

pass. Mr. Wolf from t%e Committee on Veterans Affatrsy

Personnel and Penstons to which Senate Bills 268.and 676

were referred reports the same back wfth Amendments

thereto wit: t:e recommendatfon chat the Amendments be

adopted and tbe Bills as amended do pass. Mr. Wolf

from Veterans Affairs to which Senate Bills 320 and 880

were referred reports the same back with Amendments

thereto -1th the recommendation rhat the Amendments be

adopted and the Bills as amended do pass. Mr. Wolf

from Veterans Affairs.o.''

çy 'Speaker Murphy: Attention. Just a minutep somebody turnedin a key for a volkswagon that was found so whoever

lost the key to a volkswagon come up to the Speaker's

rostrum. I have it here. Maybe they lost it out at

the ballgame or someplace lfke that.''

Clerk Selcke: HMr. Wolf from Veterans Affairs to whtch

Senate Bi11 A81 was referred reports ehe same back with

the recommendation that the Bill do pass and be Ire-referred to Appropriations. Mr. Wolf from Veterans

IAffairs to whfch Senate Bill 1172 was referred reports

the same back with the recommendation that the Bfll do

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speaker Murphy: ''Introductions First Readlng-''

. Iclerk Selcke: MHouse Bill 2002: Barryy amends the Illinofs

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jHealth Facilities Act, First Reading of the Bi11. Eet

me have your attention, please. I have here a key to

a volkswagon and if anybody has lost ft or thefr car

y . 'can t start, please come up here and we wil1 give you

the key.îl

Speaker Murphy: ''Agreed Resolutionso'' .

Clerk Selcke: ''House Resolution 449. Houlihany J.M. House

Resolution 452, Lemke et a1. House Resolution 454.

, Diprima et a1. House Resolution 455y Diprima et a1. '.

House Resolution 458, Ralph Dunn et al. House Resolution

459. Lauer. House Resolution 462. Yourell et al. House

Resolution 464, Fary et a1. Rouse Resolution 465.

Dave Jones. Agafny 1et me have your attention. I have

a volkswagon key up here. tf anybody has lost a key.

please come up and get it.''

Speaker Murpky: HThe Centleman from Cook. Representatfve W. '

Wal sh . ''

Walsh: ''Well, we have what everyone has been waiting for,

Mr. Speaker, the Aqread Resolt.tlong apd the first ones

House Resolution 449, commends on its 50th anniversary.

the offtcers. staff and menbers of the Chioago Council

I . . 'on Foreign Relations. House Resolution 452 congratulates

. tbe Luthetan Church Missouri Synod on its 125th anniversar

' and vish the synod and its members many more years of:

activfty. House Resolution 454 by Larry Dlprfma

commends Ffrst Deputy Fire Marshall Mfcbael Mahoney '

for his long and distinguished career ef publlc servfce

and House Resolution 455 commends E.B. Skip Keesling,

the only livfng past departmental adjutant of the American

Legioay Department of Itlinois. House Resolution 458

asks that we commend and congratulate Jeffrey Hughes

retiring Executive Director of Southern Illinois.

' Incorporated, an organization of busfness leaders

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Mrs. Julia Grandour on attaining her 90th year andj .j ': House Resolution 462 congratulates Mr. and Mrs. Eldon1 .; D.s or Mr. Eldon D. Findley who is the Superfntendent!

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1 '; of Chicago Ridge Schoèl District 12791/2 who is retfring

after 50 yèars of outstanding service to publie education

and House Resolution 464 by Representative Fary congratula es

: Mr. and Mrs. Thomas E. Bingham who will celebrate theirj : ')I Golden Wedding Anniversary on June 24 and Houpe Resolution

' 465 asks that we commend and thank the National Council

' of the Boy Scouts of America for affordiig Scoutssih'' '

the State of Illinois two jubilee experiences and Mr.

Speakery I move tbe adoption of the Agreed Resolutions.''

speaker Murphy: ''AII rlght. the question is on the Gentleman's '

motion for adoption of the Agreed Resolutfons. A1l inij: favor signify by saying 'ayely contrary by saying 'nay'.

The 'ayes' have it. The Resolutions are adopted. '

General Resolutions. .

! Clerk Selcke: HHouse Resolution 435, Skinner et a1. House

Resolution 450, Caldwell et a1. House Resolution 451.

J.M. Houliban. House Resolutiop 456. éierce et,al. .

House Rèsolution 457, Kempiners. House Joint Resolution

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Speaker Murphy: HBills on the Consent Calendar: Second. . . '

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Clerk Selcke: 'Qonsent Calendar, Second Reading. Senate

Bill 330 amends''the Park District Codey Second Reading

of thè Bill. Senate Bill 331 amends the Park District '

Codey Second Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bf11 584

amends the Park District Code, Second Reading of theI

iBi11. Senate Bitt 615, an Aet to prevent flood damage,

second Reading of the B11l. Senate Bill 947: an Act

to amend the Unified Code of Corrections, Second Readfng

of the Bill. No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Murphy: ''Any Amendments from the floor? Third Reading.

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Clerk Selcke: ''Senate Bi11 131. an Act to regulate the

practice of courts in granting equitable relief, Third

' Reading of the Bi11.

Senate Bi11 161 amends the Pensfonlj Codey Third Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bi11 253 amendsj 'an Act relating to Recordersy Thfrd Reading of the

Bil1. Senate Bill 270 amends the Illfnois Uniform Gift

to Miners Act, Third Reading of the Bil1. Senate Bill '

304 amends tbe State Highway Police Act. Thfrd Readfng

of the Bi11. Senate Bill 365 creates Eqûlne:lnfectioùs

Anelia Eraction Act: Third Reading ofzthesBill. Senate

Bill 372 amends the Civil Administrative Code, Thlrd

Reading of the Bi11. 387 amedds the Vehicle Codey Third

Reading of the Bi1l. 394 amends the Illinots Publïc '

Library Act, Third Reading of the Bi11. Seoate Bill j' j4l7 amends the Vlhièle Codey Third Reading of the

. . 1Bill. Senate Bill ;28 amends the Pension Code, Thlrd j

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jReading of the Bi11. Senate Bill 523 amends an Act .

relatfng to the mandamus, Third Reading of the Bill.

Senate Bi11 524 amends a.n Act relatfng to a tax on

boatsa vessels and raftsy Third Reading of the Bil1.

Senate Bi? 1 .525 atzends ev Act relatlng tn fnlunationsp

Third Readingrsof the Bill. Senate Bill 526 amends an

Act relating to the practfce of features and quorondo.

Thfrd Reading of the Bill. Senate B111 527 amends an

' Act in relation to habeus corpusy Third Reading of the. !

Bill. Senate Bill 528 amends an Act relating to atachmeat , '

Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bfll 529 am' ends an

' Act relating to ethics, Thfrd Reading of the 3i11. '

Senate Bill 530 amends an Act relating to replevtns,

Third Reading of the Bf11. Senate B111 634 amends the

Pensfon Code, Third Reading of the Bill. Senate Bfll

637 amends the Pension Code, Third Readtng of the Bi11.

Senate Bill 640 amends khe Pension Code, Third Reading

of the Bill. Senate Bill 662 amends the Pension Codes

Tllird Read ing of tbe Bi11. Sena te Bf1l 668 amends the

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ension Code, Third Reading of the Bi1l. Senate Bill ;

714 amends the Pension Code, Third Reading of the Bi11.

senate Bi11 754 amends the Department of Children and

Family Services Act: Third Reading of the Bi11. Senate

Bill 873 amends the Vehtcle Code, Third Readfng of the

Bi11. Senate Bill 896 amends the Uniform and Comicalt .' Gift Act, Third Reading of the Bi11. Senate Bill 1079j ' (h

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, amends an Act relating to alcoholic lfquorsx Third

jj . 'Reading of the Bi11.

Speaker Murphy: ''The question is: shall these Bflls pass. '

A11 fn''favor signify by voting îayev those opposed byvoting 'nof. The Gentleman from Cook. Representative

Mahar is recognized.'' ' j

Mahar: ''Mr. Speakery Ladfes and Gentlemen of the Housey I '

would like to call the Clerkîs attantfon to tlxe fact on. I

Senate Bill 161 I have been carried as a Senate Sponsor1for the last two days. It is an error. I am not the '

Senate Sponsor.'' 'l

Speaker Murphy: HYou can correct it up here at the Clerk's

table. Have all voted who wish? The Clerk will take

the record. TedoLlchowicz 'aye'. Representative

'i* Bluthat'dt 'aye'. èor what Ieason Jbes the Gentleman

from Cook, Representative Palmer rise? Representative

Palmer.'' '. ;

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Palmer: f'l want to be recorded as voting 'no' on 16l and

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Speakèer.Murphy: HRecord the Gentleman as 'no' on 161. Any

' other requests please come up to the Clerk and make

your requests right at the Clerk's. On this question

there are ll9 'ayes' no 'nays' subject to whatever '>

other requests are filed at the Clerk's desk and these1.

Bills having received the Constitutfonal Majority are

hereby declared passed. Senate Bi11 156 I thfnk.n E

clerk Selcke: ''Senate Bill 156, Terzichy a Bi11 for an Act

to amend the School Code: Second Reading of the Bi11. INo Committee Amendmentsv'' '

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clerk selcke: ''Amendment //1, Emil Jones, amends Senate. !

Bill 156, page 2 by deleting line 14 and so forth.l'

Speaker Bluthardt: HThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Jones.''

Jones; ''Mr. Speaker and Ladles and Gentlemen of the Houses '

Amendment //1 to Senate Bill 156 amends on page 2 of

Senate Bill 156 and requires that the 11 distrfcts in

the city of Chicago lead the advantage on the basis

of school population. Tbe purpose of this particular

Amendment is that in the city of Chicago where you bave

more tban 500 :tudents attending public scbools and

most of the parents of these studentss and most of. :

the parents of these students do not have an opportunity

to partake in the education of theirrchfldren. Just '

reclntly'wa r epor t ' tame outltwherein the s chools in the '

city of Chicago are more than two years behind the '

reading level of the national norm. We, fn the city

of Chicagos two years agoy voted more than 3 to l to .

oppose an elected school board. More tban 3 to 1. But

. as the Bill is currently drawn it wi11 require that

the 11 districts be based on population.n

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Mr. Terzichy the Spoùsor of this Bill, doesnft want it ' .

called at this time so the Clerk will tàke it out of

the recordw'' ' . ' ' . . .

Clerk Selcke: HSenate Bi11, Senate Bill 173: a Bill for an

Act to amend the Revenue Act, Second Reading of the Bf1l.

' , No Committee Amendments.'' .

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Speaker Bluthardt: HAny Amendments from the floor? Third

Reading.'' Is Mr. Tuerk on the floor? You want 220 andl..

.''ic'' 2212.7 Take it out of the record. Mr. Walsh. Mr.

Willfam Walsh. do you want 225 called? Take it out of

the record.n .

Clerk Selcke: HHouse Bill 228, ïeller. Senate Bi11 228. a

Bill for an AcL Lo amend the Highway Code Second

Read ing of the Bill . No Commi t t ee Amendment s . e'

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,1 lSpeaker Bluthardt: Any Amendments from the floor? Third '

Reading.''

clerk Selcke: î'Senate B111 241 amends the Election Code-''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Is Mr. Philfp on the floor? Take ft out

of the record.n'

clerk Selcke: :'242 the same.'l

Speaker Bluthardt: 1'242 take it out of the record-n

Clerk Selcke: f6245, Barnesy a Bill for an Act to amend the

Vehfcle Code, Secoad Reading of the Bil1. No Committee.. 'k

Amendments.'' '

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Any Amendments from the floor? Third

Readingz' ' '

Clerk Selcke: MSenate Bill 285, Gtglio, a Bill for an Act

to provide for the ordinary and contingent expense of

the State Civfl Service Commissiony Second Readfng of

the Bi11. No Committee Amendments.'' . i

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Any Amendments from the floor? Thfrd

Readtng.l'

Clerk Selcke: ''Senate Bil1'296, Jacobsy'an7.Adt'':toJpru/ïde

for the ordinary and contingent expense of the Commïssion

of Banks and Trust Companiese''

Speaker Bluthardt: llls Oral Jacobs out on the floor? Take

it ouf of the record.ll

Clerk Selcke: f'Senate Bill 343, an Act to makè an appropriatfo

for the ordinary and contingent for the Judfcfal Inquiry

Board: Second Readfng of the Bi11. No Committee Amendment .H

Speaker Bluthardt: 'fAre there any Amendments from the floor?

For what purpose does the Centleman from Champafgn,

wish to be recognized, Mr. Hirschfeld?''

Hirschfeld: HMr. Speàker, I rfse on a point of persoaal

privilege.''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''State your point.'':'j 'T Hirschfeld: 'îsome of us this morning have nottced that thet ,

two very prominent painting of Mr. Douglas and Mr.

Lincoln seem to be missing from the chamber.and the inftfal

1 reactton was thae perhaps we have had the same probleml .l -sa-,-x.wj . . .k - o. x E M j; j. vt *z#- ' . t .a..s. k >' ' ï G E N E R A L A S S( ' . à ê'- rgj w% î t s x g. v s o F' j u u j N o I s: rt .Jtf.1 -1' v . ayzzz .- *=u;, .îu. . / souse o e a sea sss--ra-ri v es$1

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g' here on the floor of the House that recently occurred e '

in the Sun Times Press room and Representative Juckett's! . .

! offfce but after coaferrfng wfth some of the Members ont, ,: .

the other side of tlàe aisle I am wonder ing whether ort' not slnce tbese two men were tnvolved in some greati .;

debates and since there is apparently a great debateù

.. currently going on betweeu the Mayor of Illinois and the

coveruor of Illinois, whether or not pèrkaps there is

L going to be two new pictures placed fn those frames.

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today, depending upon tbe outcome of certafn legislation.

Speaker Bluthardt: '1I think the Clerk, our fine Clerk. Mr.T

Selcke could explain thatpl' . '

Clerk Selcke: 'fThe paintings were taken out prior to the

demolition of this place as soon as you fellas leave

' and they are over in the vaults of the State Historïcal

tf . '

k Lfbrary and vill be returned.

Speaker Bluthardt: n0n House Bill 343, were there any

floor Amendments? Third Reading.l'V

Clerk Selcke: ''Senate Bill 353'amends an Act relating to :#

the rate of interesty Second Reading of the Bf11. No '

' ' Committee Amendmentsoo . ' '

Sgeakir Bluthardt: HAny Anendments frem the floor? Third. . l.

'

t Read ing . '' . @ . . ' 'clerk selcke: ''Senate Bill 395 amends the Local Library Act:) . ,

gecond Reading of the Bi11. No Committee Amendments.''

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Speaker Bluthardt: 'lFor what purpose does the Gentleman from

j ' ..Macon wish to be recognizes, Mr. Borchers?f?

Borchers: ''Mr. speaker and fellow Members of the House, I '

purposefully observed and watched the proper boxing of

the pictures for storage atong wtth Hickey. one of the

ktate ' historians. What has been done and these plctures

up there also will be taken is hetng done for the

preservation of the history of Illinoïs so no one needs

QQ Worry any further aböue ito''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''On 395. Mr. Xcpartlin indicates he wants

that taken out of the reuord. Proceed with 416. Is Mr.g7-f-',47 o G E N E R A L x s s E M B L Y

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l ' 14. 4. 1 IiDunne here? Mr. Robert Dunne? I don't see him here. !

Take it out.l'

Clerk Selcke; ''House Bill 447, Timothy Simms, amends theIIcounty Hospital Governfng Commissfon Act, Seèond Reading

I ,,of the Bf1l. No Committee Amendments.

l Speaker Bluthardt: HAny Amendments from the floor? Any

Amendments from'the floor?''

Clerk Selcke: ''Amendment //1, Douglas. amends Senate Bill

447 page 4 by deleting line 30 and so forth.î'

Speaker Bluthardt: HTake tbat out of the record too-'f

Clerk Selcke: ffsenate Bill 492, a Bill fer an Act to amend '

the Consumer finance Act: Second Readlng of the 3i11. '

No Committee Amendments.î' '''

j1Speaker Bluthardt: Any Amendaents from the floor? Third

R ea d i ng . '1 '

. Clerk Selcke: ''Senate Bi11 613, Calvo, amends the Library

Systems Act, Second Reading 'of th'e Bi11. No Commfttee

Amendmentso'' ' '

Speaker Bluthardt: 'lls Mr. Calvo here? The Gentleman from'

j 1Cook, Mr. Shea.

' Shea: ''I will handle ft for him.''

' clerk selcke: q'lAmendment //1, Pierce, amends Senete Bill 6l3

page 2 by strikfng lines 10 through 13 and so forth.''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. Fierce.''

Pierce: ''Mr. Calvo, our chief Sponsor I don't think fs on

the flbor. I think he was waitfng for the Appropriation

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Speaker Bluthardt: ''0h Mr. Shea asked to be recognizedo''#'

shea: ''I said I would handle it for him, Dan.''

Piercez ''0.K., then T will say this. I am going to withdraw

that Amendment because we have agreed now on an Agreed

Resolution to have the House Revenue Committee study

the problem of finapcing local librarfes to take the

burden off tbe real estate tax and to get some more

additional revenue for the local libraries. My Amendment

was aimed at gettfng some of the money that is going to

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llibraries themselves. In view tthe systems to the local Il ;

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of the leadership of b0th sides of the aisle co-sponsorfngf

my Resolution to have the House Revenue Committee under

Representative Randolph study the problem of local. .

' ji1 libraries, I aa wfthdrawing this Pierce Amendment that

you have a1l gotten telegrams agaiast from libraries

throughout the State and thereforey you won't have to

worry about that Amendment. I movea I will just

withdraw the Amendment from consideratfonzê

jj ' 'Speaker Bluthardt: The Gentleman moves to tabte Amendment

//1. Any objections? A11 in favor of the motfon to

table indicate by saying 'aye', contrary, the Ameadment '. .

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' fs tabled: the Gentleman from Cooks Mr. Schlickmanv'?

jj 'Schlickman: Mr. Speaker, senate Bill 613 is a Secretary

of State Bill that relates to the State Library System.

I have been assured by the Secreuary oi State's offfce

that until it provides me witb informxtion in response '

to a question that I posed to the Secretary of State's

, office fn Committeey that this Bill would be kept at

the order of Second Readfng and I do request that ft

be left at the order of Second Reading and not advanoed

to Tqird Reading.u '

Speaker Bluthardt: 'HWe11;,I thfnk that woùld be in discretion

of the Sponsory Mr. Shea. Mr. Sheam the Gentleman from

. . Cook, Mr. Schlickman has requested that this be held

pendfng some assuranee from where, Gene? Gene has made. ' . .. '

. a request for postponthg thfs matter..o'' .

v# 'Shea: By keeping it on Second, absolutely no objectioa, Mr.

Speaker. Take it out of the record.''

Speaker Bluthardt: 'fLeave ft on Second. You are going to

hold it on Second.'' .

Clerk Selcke: ''Senate Bi11 641. Houlihany amends the Illfnois

Peasion Code, Second Reading of tbe Bi11. No Commlttee

Amendments.n

speaker Bluthardt: 'fAny àmendments from the floor?''i

Clerk Sezdke: Amendment #1y J.J. Wolfx amends Senate Bill 641

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on page 9,' linèà 1 through 3 by deletfng the following

and so forth.''

speaker Bluthardt: ''And who's handling J. J. Wolf? 0h, there I' j

he isy the Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Wolfw'7

' uolfe: ''Mr. Speaker. that's not my Amendment. I belfeve theg .

Gentleman from McHenry, Representative Hanahan has thata''

. Clerk Selcke: 910h, this fs Hanahan's?''

Speaker Bluthardt: HMr. Hanahans is that your Amendment?''. .

N?Ranahan: ''Yes, thatls my Amendmenty Sir. I'm sorry Jake Wolf

j and I had...ahv..aconference on it. It was my Amendment.

A1l this Amendment does is four sectfons of Senate Bfll

641. a11 tbis one section does is to delete the part

where the continued employnent of the Judge....ah.oowoùld

have an optfon. you know as far as contributing hts.....

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for his pension. I move the adoptfon of thls Amendment.'?'

,p v.Speaker Blutbardt: 1he Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Houlihan.

Houlihan: ''Thank you. Mr. Speaker, as the House Sponsor of

the Bfll I do not feel that t%e ..oah.e.proposal on the

freeze, whicb is embodied in the Bi11 fs an unreasonable

proposal and I ask that the Amendment be defeatedo''

Speaker 3lûthafdt: ''Further discussion? The Gentleman from

Lake. Mr. Skinaer.......or is it McHenry.''

Skinner: HWould the Spdnsor of the Amendment yfeld...oclose

anyWay.....tO a question Pleasez'' '

speaker Bluthardt: ''He fndfcates he wf11.''

Skianer: î'Tomy would you explain thvs Amendment again. Is

this the Amendment that requfres Judges to contfnue pay-

fag into the retirement fund as long as they are Judges?''

Hanàhàn: ''Yesy thfs Amendment removes that provfsion of t*e

Bi11. The Bitl does tbree other things. Thïs Amendment

just removes tbat provision that the judge does not havc

to contribute after he freezes his funds.n

skinner: ''In other words, lf this Amendpent is passeds judges

like General Assembly would have to pay into the retfre-

ment fund as long as tbey are serving fn public office,

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Haaahan: HThis would brfng the Act in conformance wfth the

Legislature and everyone else. If this Aaendment was1 I

adopted this would not allow them to do anythfng different '' I#

Skinner: îîMr. Speaker, I9d like to speak in favor of this

Amendment. It seems to me that there is no reason on

earth that judges should have more specfal consideration

thaa Legislators. If we bave to pay into this fundy

whether weîve been here twenty years or nots it seems to. ;'

me judges should also have to pay into their'fund and I

urge the adoption of thfs Amendment.''

Speaker Bluthardt: 'Turther diseussion. The centleman bas

moved the adoption of Amendment //1 to House Yfl1. ..erI

Senate Bill 641, a11 in favor of the àdoptfo'n wfll in-

dicate by saying Iaye'y the coptra'ry. . . .ah-o.the Amendment .

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fs adopted. Furtber. amendments? Thikd Reading. H

Clerk olBrien: ''senate Bill 737. Madiganp out of the record.u

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Take it out of the record.''

Clerk O'Brien: Hsenate Bill 787 Letnenweber, a Bi11 for an

. Act to amend the School Code, Second Reading of the B111.

No Committee Amendments.'î

1% eake r B1.u t.l ka r d t : C' âm ch n d nz an t' s f r okc t h e -.? 1 i: o r ? . Th :L r d R a a d ing . '' '

lerk O'Brien: '' ' Bill 811 Dyer,......

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Peaker Bluthardt: 'Q s the tady from Dupage here? Mrs. Dyer? ' '

i .Take it out of the record.''

lerk ofBrien: llsenate Bill 860. Phi1ips.....''

Speaker 3luthardt: ''The Gentleman from Dupage, Mr. Philip, is

he here ?''

Clerk O'Brien: '9A Bill for an Act relating to Countieso''

speaker Bluthardt: ''Do you want that B111 called or not. Mr.I

Bi...Phf1fp? Take tt out of the record.''

Clerk o'Brien: I'Senate B111 869. Neffy a Bf11 for an Act to I1' amend the Highway Code, Second Reading of the B111. No

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Commtttee Amendments.''

speaker nluthardt: ''Any Amendments from the Floor? Tbird !

Reading . ''

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l.'' t; rjjjj 1,1:. -..V.,1.4 s'r-'rs oe 'uu.-o'sy Ab . )1. ur ,qq;-' - souss oe asesess-v-vlvss .

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clerk O'Brien: ''Senate Bi11 871, Neff, a Bfll for an Act to

. àmend the Highway code, second Reading of the Bi11. No

1 ,4 ' ' 'Commirtee Amendments.

! speaker Bluthardt: ''Any Amendments from the Floor? Third! .t Read ing . ''J

clerk o'Brien: ''Senate Bi11 872. Neffy a Bill for an Act. to

amend tbe Highway Codey Second Readfng of the Bi11. No

commfttee Amendments.''

speaker Bluthardt: ''Any Amendmynts from the Floor? Thirdfy '

Reading.

Clerk O'Brien: ''Senate Bill 889:Barry, a Bill for an Act to

àmend the school Codey Second Readfng of the' Bill.'' '

Speaker Bluthardt: HTake it out of the record.''

clerk O'Brien: ''senate Bill 901. Campbetly a B11t for an Act' to amend t'ae Public Aid Code, Second Readfag of zhe Bf11. .

No Committee Amendments.n

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Any Amendments from the Floor? ïhird

Read ing . :1 ' .

clerk O'Brien: ''Senate Bil1 903, Campbell, a Bi11 for an Act

to create a Commission on Hea1th facflitiesy accounting

and cost reportingy Second..-'' '

' Ij ' ., 'Speaker Blutbardt: Take it out of the record.

Clerk OfBrfen: ''Senate Bf1l 905p G. L. Hoffman. a Bf1l for an -

Act to create the School Construction Bond Act, Second

Reading of the Bi1l. 0ne Committee Amendment.. Amends

' Senate Bi11 905 on page ly lfne 31. on page 2 in each of

. lines 11y 23 and 33 by inserting immediately after re-

construction the words rehabilftatfone'' .

speaker Bluthardt: ''The Gentleman from Dupagey G. L. Hoffman.

Amendment //1.' Amendment /11, Mr. Eoffmany on your..senate

Bi11 905.:'

Clerk O'Brien: ''I read it. Gene Hoffman-y.''

Hoffman: ''The Committee Améndment for 905 fncludo...er.oeadds

the word, rehabilitation in the Btlls to give it a lirtle

broader coverage. I move for the adoptiono'' I

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Speaker Bluthardt: NThe Gentleman moves for the adoption of

Amendment //1 to Senate Bill 905, a1l in favor will in-!

dicate by saying 'ayev coatrary.-..the Amendment is j1, 1adopted

. Any further Amendments, Thfrd Readiag. 1lerk O'Brien: ''.....Bi11 1097, is being held. senate Bi11

1179, Collinsy Randolph, a Bi11 for an A=t to amend the

Capitol Development Bond Act, Second Reading of the B111.

No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Any Amendmqnts from the Floor? Take it. )

out of the record.u

Clerk O'Brien: HSenate Bfll 1193. Telcserp a Bill for an Act

to amend the General Assembly Appropriations Second

Reading of the Bi11. Qne Committee Amendment amends

Senate Bill 1193 on page 1, on line 1 by deleting Section

1 and inserting in lieu thereof Section 1 and 2..

Speaker Bluthardt: HIs Mr. Teleser on the Floor? ..'':

hknown i ' ' :' $'No No . . . ''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Anybody bandling this Amendment for Mr.

Telcser'k in his absence? Take it out of the record.''

lerk OfBrien: 'lHe didn't want that Bfll called.'î

Speaker Bluthardt: f'For what purpose the Gentleman from Cooky

Mr. latzcYovs-qz 'wb.sh 'to 'be recognfzed?'f

echowicz: HMr. Speaker, 1:11 handle the Amendment for Rep-

resentatfve Telcser.? Itfs an Appropriation Bi11.Tf

Speaker Bluthardt: 'IAII rfght. Call that Bill agafn.''

lerk ofBrlen: ''Senate Bill 1193, a Bill for an Act ro amend

the General Assembly Approprfatfonp Second Reading of the

3i11. One Committee Amendment. Amends Senate Bill 1193

on page 1y on lfne 1, and so forthw''

speaker Bluthardt: nThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. techovicz.''

Lechowicz: HThank you. Xr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of

the House, tbts fs the Amendment as far as providiug the

. .. .ah...tbe line item appropriation for both tbe..

approprfation staffss both for the Malority and Minority

Party. It received unanimous endorsement ln commlttee

sgl .42z.) er), G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Ye? <A> t, t'szj.- ù sxm-rs o e , uul-o's' . c ' . ys. XT a'

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Speaker 3luthardt: HFurther discussion? The Cervcrz'; emaa 'iaa' j'* mov e.d f o r th e a d o p t i o n o f . . . . ah . . . C o mm i t t e e: ---m> e n d:c s.,a -. ../ J. .-111119

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-A11 fn favor of the adoption wfll fndicate b#- oaxioy

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' Contrary....and the Amendment is adopted. Ut:rm'.zher Izecd-I

. ments? Thfrd Readfng. That's the end of Sec'rnmd Reu -cxg

and....ah...with leave of the House werll go' .rx va.au owa--

Second Readings againy-.for thoie that we m tswmwd. .cz-r

Mr . co 11tn.1. s Bill . ) .

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Clerk O'Brien: nBi1l 1179, Collins, a Bill for acziv .u zt to

amend the Capitol Development Bond Acty Seccrcmi .xeadax.

of the Billy no Committee Amendments.''

' Speaker Bluthardt: HAny Amendments from the Floor''r-' 'zhsre Rxadin .'e

1 k O'3rien: %, Bill 220 Tuerk..a'' 'er . . . ,

eaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. luerk, do you want your B#='L-L-a callosr

Take it out of the record.'î

lerk O'Brien: ''221 ...a1so?''

Speaker Bluthardt: 'îTake it out of the record. '''

lerk O'Brien: HHold 225.....Senate 3i1l 296. J&c= r.+as a a--=-I

for an Act to provide for the ordinary and cc.= c xnge=

' expense for the offtce of Commissioner of Ba--. :=w and

. 1 r u s '-- C ompan i (. a , S a ç- o u ?. R cta d i ng t) f the B i l 1 ..- -.- . --. L! ne r-r.z-

mittee Amendment....amends Senate Bill 296s oomu zpage L. liae

10 by deleting 1,507,500 and iasertlng in lte-cz 'zhereaf.

. . and so f orth . ''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''lhe Gentlemany .....Mr. mmmmvv-..-w ....

lerk o'Brfen: 'llacobs...''

Bluthardt: ''Jacobs ffspeaker .

acobs: uThank you Mr. speakerp Ladles and Gentr- - m of = .

House, Amendment //1 to the.....ah....Appropr=-===4on s,

Bank and Trust Commission increases the Apprcr>miatim ys

$41,800. to make a total of $2,8::, 10Q...aniu -.7 movs --=a

adoption of Amendment //1.''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Discussion? The Centleman frmm m coo'l-- zr.!

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echowiczt ''1 thank you, Mr. speaker and Ladles and Gentlemen

of the House, will the Sponsor yfeld to a question or'j

twob''

Speaker Blutbardt: ''He indicates he wi1l.ê'

echowièz: Hlhe increase is....aah...what's the reason for lae tscrease? ''t

acobs: H%he increasek:lRepresentative Lechowiczy ïs to b'ring

the compliment of the o.vthe Department: the Bank and

Trust Commission: up to thç former..w oah...'comfy' of the

last administration and was also was not filled sooner

because of the Governor's freeze.'e

echowicz: HWhat people are we addfng to this Defartment?''acobs: ''Due to the increase in aaouat of banks that are

being hahdled by the Bank and Trust Commission thère has

to be more investigators put on for .that purpose.''

echowicz: î'We11, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House, ff I oppose this Amendment fn Commfttees because

upon our review of this budgets as submittedy ft was

b de uate. And subsequent to that tfmes thisprovea to e a q

Amendment was offered in Committee and there....not the

proper justiffcation for the fnclusfon of the addltional

investlgators, I opklosed it at that Lime, arz I oppose

the Amendnent on the F1oor.....at this time as well. I

urge a l'nol vote on the Amendment.'î

peaker Bluthardt: f'Further discussfon? A11 rfght. the

Gentleman from Rock Island to 'close, Mr. Jacobso''

acobs: HMr. Chair....Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of

t%e H/usea actually what has' happened to thfs increase is

the fact that there has been many more banksy I think 24

banks fncluded, into the Bepartment's Jurisdietion. In

order to handle these properly, the increase was necessary

to bring it up to what it was formerly under the prevfous

adminfstratfonp which actually a..gthis adminfstratfve

commissfon is about.....in fact the only one that 1. know

of in the State that does not cost the taxpayer one dfme.

..pzz->.. :. TN G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Y,a. trmsey'A

,v')2 !.. s-rxvs op- 'uu.aolsp 1 . 4 ..%. -t c - a.ai.. - House os nsesesssvavlve:s.. a. .,jx.X . . .: c. +>Q' Z .... c k? a , . &

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The banks effected pay for this and the money goes into

the.general fund and fs not one dime cost to the taxpayers!Iin Illinois for this commissibn..o.and I ask a favorable

vo t e . '' .

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Speaker Blutbardt: nThe c'entleman moves for the adoption of

Aoendment #1....to Senate Bill 296. On the question. all

fn favor of the adoption indicate by saying îaye's con-

trary......othe 'ayes' bave it and the Amendment is

adopted. Current..v.oh, that Amendment is adopteds are

' there further Amendments7''

lerk O'Brien: . l'Amendment 112, Jacobs, amends Senate 3il1 296

on page 1, line 10 by deleting 1,539,700 and fnserting

tn lieu tbereof :1.590,245 and so forthw''

peaker Bluthardt: ''The Gentleman from Rock Islandy Mr. Jacobso'

acobs: l'Thank you Mr. Speakery Ladies and Gentlemen of the

Eouse. Amendment //2 allows for tbe increase, a cost of

livfng increase that was passed out of this Housey aad is

being put on througb Amendment as all the other De/artments

and I move for tbe àdoption of Amendment #2.H

peaker Bluthardt: NAny discussion? The' Geutleman moved the

adoption of ,Amendment f/2 to Senate Bill 2964 al1 in favor

vill indicate by saying 'ayef contraryo...the 'ayes' have* .

it and the Amendment is adopted. Any Amendœents from the iI

floor? Third Reading. a . . .concurrences. Under concurrenc

appears House Bill 634.....and for that purpose the Chair

recognizes the Speaker......Blairo''

Blair: ''Ah...Mr. Speakerv..l thfnk I fully explafned the '

nature of Senate Amendxent 92 to House 5i11 634 so I would

do no more tbis morning than to ...to renew my motiono . . . .

that the House 'do concur' in Senate Amendment 2 to Eouse

Bi1l 634.9'1ISpeaker Bluthardt: ''The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Scblickman.

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' jl Achlickman: Mr. Spea.ker apd Members of the House, this is not

of course the Btll that we passed previously. What the

House had passed previcusly was a tax relief and a tax

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reforp Deasure. This Bill now is the principai means by J

which the proposed Regional Transportation Authorfty in

the Northeastern Illinofs County areay is intended to be '

fuaded. Butp with no tax relief, no tax reform for 70

percent of the peopleiof the State of Illfnois. Yesi intbis Bill as Amended, is a statewide reductfon of one-

half cent in the sales tax but by House Bfll 1958 vhich#

we will be considering later, that oneihalf cent reduction

will be restored in the six county area of Chicago. Whiqh

as I indicated constitutes 70 percent of the statefs

* population. In addition to the restoration of the one-

half cent tax welre to be asked to increase the tax ongas and impose a parking tax. The new tax program would

Constitute, Would in my opiniony vould be an irrational.

c o n g l o Tll e r a t: e t ha t ' s 11 n p r e c e d e n t e c1 J.r. t h e S t a t c a W'h a t w o u ld

be the effect of this Bill in the States fiscal integrity?

No one, absolutely no one can say for sure. I've yet to

See any analysis or projection....''

peaker Blutbardt: I'For wbat purpose does the Centleman from

Cooky Mr. Totten wish to be recognïzedo''

Totten: ''A point of order, Mr. Speaker.f'

jj 11 jk t; #' ' '.Speaker Blutùar t: State your po u .

Totten: ''I belteve the Speaker is not speakiug to the subbect

wefre on . This Bill has nothing to do....'' .

Speaker Bluthardt: nYour point of order fs well takeno...he

is speaking to the Regional Transportation Authorfty

rather than the concurrence motfon thFt's before this

House so wi11 you please limft your remarks to the motfonp

l ea s e . '' '#

Schlickcan: ''On wbat basis, Mr. Speakefp are my comments out.

of order7'' .

speaker Bluthardt: HThis is a motion on the Coacurrence

Calendar, a motion to concurv....and it.o.you're going '

too far-- .it must be limited to that motion...the motion

of the Sponsor to...ah....to -..ah.- concur-''

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Schlickman: î'Mr. Speaker, Amendment //2 provfdes for a one-

' half cent reduction in tbe sales tax statewfde and ftês

the knowledge of every Member of this House. the know-

ledge of every Member of the Senate and itgs been well

publicized in tbe hedia what tbe purpose of Amendment is.

Now: Mr. Speaker, I ask you, on what basis are my remarks

out of order. on what basis can you prevent me from

commenting on an Amesdment and prevent me from character-N)izfng that Amendment as I see fit?''

Speaker Bluthardt: HWe11, I'm going to permit you to proceedy

but ....ah...I would ask you to limit your remarks to the

tax effect itself and not ...ahe.-remarks about irrespon-

sibility.sg

Schlfckman: HWe11, Hr. Speakery may then direct an inquiry

to the Sponsor of thj.s Bill at this pôint with keave to

return af ter itis r espons e: ''

b eaker Bluthardt : ''We might ask the Sponsor , would he yieldP

to a question?...-..The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Schlïckma

has asked if you would yield to a question.''

Blafr: îfoh sure.''#

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Speaker Blutbardt: ''Proceed.''

Schlickman: ''Thank you. ...Is it not true that this Amend-

ment is directly related House Bill 1958.:'

Blair: ''This Amendment is verybclear. It's the Amendnent

that was put on in tbe Senate to a House Bill of which I

was cbief Sponsor. that House Bill provided for a re-

duction for 4 percent to 2 percent on foods and pre-

scription drugs. 1he Senate in their wisdomp sav fit to

Amend that Bill to provide broad base sales tax relief

by reducing the Statc R0T percent to 3 l/2 percent. As

you well know there vere comments made and cdncerns raised

by the Illinois Retafl Merchants among others that there

would be problemq at the grocery counters....ah.o.with

the 4 to 2 situation. So, With the cut across the board...

applying ...ah...to a1l items sold in retail: that objecti n

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was removed. So, the Amendment'only provfdes for relief,

one-ùalf percent from 4 to 3 1/2 and ft has nothing in

it at a1l concerning any mass transit operatfons in any

1 jway, shape or form. ,If you 11 look at the Amendment I

think tbat you'll see tbat a . othat's clearly the caye.''

Schlickman: A'Well, Mr. Speaker, bave before me the June 20,

1973 fssue of tbe Chicago Sun Times, tbe front page.

'Senate OKays Transit Financing Step' and that headlines

and the accompanying article refered to Amendment #2 to

House Bill 634. Are you dee....are you disclaimingy are

you denying t%at chaçacterization of this Amendmentr'

Blafr: HWe1l. I don't tbink weTre votiag on the Sun Times

article. wedre voting on Selate Amendment #2 to Eouse

Bfll 634 and that's rihe matter thatls properly before

v *this Chamber for consideratfon. .. .and I d be happy to

answer any questions concerning the impact of Seuate

Amendment //2.''

Schlickman: 'fWhat will be the impact of Amendment //2 to tbe

State fiscal situation?''n '

Blair: ''For fiscal 1974 ft will result a reduction fn

State revenues $75,û00,200 beeause it does not become

effective until January 1. 1974.9:

Schlickman: ''You are saying that $75.000:000 is the loss to

tbe State Treasury for fiscal 174, which would be for

the month of January through June 1964...1s that. -. . .er...

:74, is that correctî ''

Blair: f'That's rfgbt.''

Schlickman: ''What is your basis for that projection'; or

estimate?''

Blaïr: ''Department of Revenue computation.''

Schlickman: l'Is that in vriting?''

Blafr: ''So,' but ft's correct.''

Schlickman: ''How do.we ksow it's correcten

Blair: HJust take my word for it.''

Scblickman: think-... . .you know me better than thato..'l

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Blair: 991....1....1 think we all understand your motivations

..sah...motivations Mr. Schlickman and. . oah...and you

can proceed in the fashion that youVre doing and I'm sure

that...you know...oit will not be unexpected by any of us,

especially by me. So go aheado''

Schlickman: ''You were questioning my rotivation?''

Btair: ''Noy I said we a1l understand wbat ft fs, go ahead.f'

Schlickman: ''Mr. Speakery I have one last question since I9m

tricted as to.....what Iomments I may make.v.nres

Speaker Bluthardt: NI dou't think you are restricted at a11

Mr. Schlickman...yourve had a 1ot of leeway out tbere,

youtve been asking many questions that's a lfttle bit out

of the unusual to allow that so I thfnk youbve had more

than....than your time, now...I would suggest phat you

get to the question...ah.o.get to the debate on the motiop

and...ab...''

Scblickman: ''Al1 right, tbe last questfon I bavey and ft does

relate to Senate Amendment #2. And the questfon is thfs,

by this Bill we wfll be gofng to a fractfonal sales tax.

In the hfstory of Illinois or of the history of any of tbe

other States in the Union, :as there been a fractional'

sales tax? If soy when and for how long?''

Speaker Bluthardt; ''Does the Sponsor wish to respond to that

question? Mr. Schlickman, I'= nor toe sure that the

Speaker beard that question. A questfon was directed to

tbe Speaker as to whetber or not the State ever before

had a fraetional sales taxs Mr . Schlickman, I'm not sute

who you directed that when you spoke to the Speaker, but#

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I think I could answer that. I well recall vhen the

sales tax used to be 4 1/2 cents. I also at oae timey if

you look in the Bil1..''

chlickman: ''Mr. Speaker, I wisb the Sponsor would respondw''

peaker Blutbardt: ''Ypu asked the Speaker to respondy I1m

acting in that capacity now.''

chlickman: 11I was directing myself to the Sponsor of this

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Bi11...er....Amendment..''..I do apprecïate your courtesy'

v1though, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Bluthardt: HFor what purpose does the Lady from Lake

Countyy Mrs. Gee-Karl: wish to be recognized?':

Geo-Karis: ''Ah...Mr. Speaker and Ladfes and Gentlemen of the

House, point of information....point of order. What is

materiality.kwhetber we've had a fractional sales tax

before or notr''')

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Well> think the question was proper.

altbough he was going quite a <ays....O

Blair: ''If you'd look at the Bfll you would see that at one

ttme we were at 4 percent. That was subsequently

amendedy %ut at one time the State was at 4 l/4 pèrcenta''

Schlfckman: ''Was that the tax paid for by the consumer or was

that the State's receipts7''

Blair: Hlt's a1l for the taxes-n

schlickman: nNell; added to tbat would be the fraction that

went to the munfcipalftïes and counties. Isn't tbat

correct?''

Blafr: ''uell. that wasn't the question Ehat you asked.''

Speaker Bluthatdt: MMr. Schlfekman, I xeould suggest that you

get to the motton of concurrence because your time has

expired so why don't you get to the point and we'll

roceed . t And , no more questions . ''

Schlickman: ''Mr . Speaker aud Menbers of the House s f t ' s

obvious that none of tlle Members had the opportunity

that his rlght to comment on thts Amendment will be

acknowledged, under the rules that have been set dovn

and which are not contatned in the rules of this House.

I will stop now, reserving the right, the absolute rigbt.

to comment on the merits of 1958. when that Btll ts up

for Tbird Readins.''

Speaker Bluthardt: HI think the Gentleman from Kane had

asked for recognttion, Mr. Hil1.''

' Hi1l: HI wonder kf the Sponsor would yfeld to a question?''

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Speaker Bluthardt: ''Ee indicates be wit1.''

Blair: ''Yes.n

Hil1: ''When House Bill 634 was voted ou in the Eouse and went

over to the Senate, it did not call for a decrease of

2 cents on the sales itax for food and medicine?- - y.food

and perscription drugs...right?...Yes.e .and what we are

considering now is a reduction of a half a cent off of

the top.of tbe sales tax. State share.''

slair: HThat's right. The Statels share only from 4 percent toJ' /

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3 1/2 percent across the board on all ftems on whicb tbe

afore tax applied.''

Hil1: NMr. Speakery could I speak on the issue now?''

Speaker Bluthardt: HAII right. Proceed. ''

Eill: NWe11, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House.

all of the years I have been dotgn here I have been for t:e

ideas that sales tax should be reduced on food and

perscription drugs. And, I had that opportunfty when I

voted for Mouse Bill 634 as it went through the House of

Representatives and now we're confronted vith the sit-

uation wbere the Bill is amended in the Senate and it

comes back with a half a cent reduction from the State

funds of the zalc,s tax. I'd lukz tö point out to you '

that we have been confronted with the situation of usiug

a balf a cent sales tax before in the State of Illinofs

and I feel qufte confident tbat with an Amendment like this

those people making purcbases from under a dollar vill

never realize a saving in respect to tbis particular

Amendment. Because that retailer pays on a gross and he

is going to be collecttng because ft is impossible to

split'a penny in half and so consequently the poor in-

dividual tbat goes in to make a purcîase under a dollar

w111 never realize a saving in the State of Illinois

because of this. Andp the merchants will make a prof.it

on it. This happened before and it's going to happen

again. So, basically there tsn't that tax relief for

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jthe individual that we.w'. .ah...are 1ed to belfeve. Novy

in regards to the area that we live 1ny those People

should know that apparently there has been an agreement

made that that half a cent of the sales tax that is going

to be taken off on this Awendment wfll be replaced for the' ;

transït system up fr those areas. So, consequently, those

people are not going to get a tax break, tbeyVre gofng

to be at that 5 cent figure and those people that think

theydre going to get a tax break downstate, it will never

amount to a half a cent on a dollar. I think this is

somethïng that we should take under consfderatfon. I .'

# 4 'think it s more important ...1 think it s more fmportant

that we take that 2 cents off of food and perscriptfon

drugs o...then take that half a cent off on a cadillac or

a beautiful coat and those people would benefit from it.

:ut those small consumers that go Eo a grocery store

<i1l not benefit from ii. Andy I think this is a bag .

process that we are setting up. Iem sure that the people

of the State of Illinois would benefit iore by the Bill

as it went through the House of Representatfves. . o. .ê'

Speaker Bluthardt: nWill the Gentleman bring his remarks to a

close. your tlme expired about a minute ago - . *ll right

Che Centleman from Cook, Mr. Fleck.''

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. . IRep. Edward E. Bluthardtt 3'Will the qentleman bring his re- 1

marks to a close? Your time expired about a minute ago.

Alrighk.. The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Eleck-'' 1

c. J. Pleck: ''Welle Mr. speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of

the Housee I ah- rise in opposition to concurrence and Itll

' explain why. of coûrse, anybody who would vote against vhat

is supposed to be tax reform for the taxpayers will have '

his own reasons be he from Downstate or Upstake. But. for

me, from the City of Chicago, this is tax reform in disguise

' What we're saying is the region in the Northeast part of thi

State are goinç to get tax reform in this measure. But, we

' a11 know that if the Mass Transit Package passes. they won'k

have tax reform. Those people will no: be getting tax re-

form. I've sak in this General Assembly now for three yeara

' ' voting'for aid to oo'vnstate, yes indeed, voting aid for

.f'Mass Transit subsidies, Chicago Board of Educakion Subaidies

But, those days will be coming to an end because my people

wi 11 be supporting it out of their sales tax while everyone .

else across the rest of the State will qet tax reform énd

' . my chicagoans and my constituents will not. uow, there.s

anokher reason. We all know that the Governor is opposed

. to this and he feels that he can not possibly manaqe the

State with a'hundred and sixky-eighk million dollar revenue

' ' loss. And, I think, he's correct. Because when we make

predictions and economic forecasts of the eeonomit positions

of Illinois saying that he can. I don't think. we realize

that President Nixon recently inaugurated his Phase Iv polic es

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which have stabilized prices in certain areas. Now. this

has restricted the inflationary broadening of the Sales Tax

Base which would bring in more income on sales taxes in

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futuro as you go through.6he year. But. that is not going' . . . jt

o happen and our projections for revenue from sales taxes ' 'I

!... . . jwill not be as high as they anticipate. Now, I don't think#

the Governor can manage this Etate in view of'the Phase IV '. .' 1' whieh President Nixon has instituted. And. if we're going

to be responsible, we'd better be responsible with tax re-

form. We'd better start looking at these questions before '

we start cutting back on education. cutting back on pollutio

controle mental health and other badly needed problemso.o-

Rep. Edward E. Bluthardt: ''Will the gentleman bring his re-

marks to a close? Your....''

C. J. Fleck: ''I certainly will. The only true tax reform is

by.....'' ' . 't !.

Rep. Edward E. Bluthardt: ''Por what purpose does the gentlema ' '

from Cook Mr. Juckett wish to be recognized?''# '

R. S. 'Juckettz ''Point of parliamentary inquiry. Why ie the I' . 1

Speaker using the two minute clock rather than the ten min-

' ute clock? We#re not explaining vokes. We're debating the

issue on the matter and it's properly the ten minute clockow. I

. ' i, Rep. Edward E. Blukhardt: ''Well, I ah.w perhaps. the reason '

is that the Speaker is a little linexperienced up here in

ithat regard. Ah.. I thoucht, on ah.. on Mötions. we ought

to limit it to two minutes-''

R. S. Juckett: ''Well, I'm sure that.....e.

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Rep. Edward E. Bluthardt: ''If the Rule is otherwise. then ah..

1#11 give Charlie a few more minutes.'' '

R S Juckett: ''He would have about eight minutes. Mr. Speake .''

Rep. Edward E. Bluthardt: ''No, he'd have about four. Mr. Hill..'

J. J- Hill: ''Mr. Speaker. you cut me off at that two minùte

ah '' '

Rep. Edward E. Bluthardtz ''Well, it was under the mistaken

belief that we were limited to two minutes.e:

J .' J. Hill : '.We1l '-then . . . . . ''.

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Rep. Edward E. Bluthardt: e'And I did give you four minutes.#

. so, if....

. . J. J. Hill; ''Mr. Speakery...o'' .

. Rep. Edward E. Bluthardtz ''1'11 come back to you. Jack. okay-''

J. J. Hill: ''That's fair enough-'' ;

Rep. Edward E. Bluthardt: ''Alriqh6.. Mr. rleck, proceed.''

C. J. Fleek: nThank you, Eddie. As I was saying, the only'

true tax reform, which woald ba a direet 'bezzef it to the

taxpayers, and letes not fool ourselvea you can come in '#

ith ackages formulas that would take a mathemakic pro- '. W J) #

fessor in college to f igure out. but the only way a tax-

. payer is qoing to get reform is YY the use of the income'

- tax exemption, by highering it and lowering it according

' to the needs of the State and according to the needs of the

taxpayers. Ande youdre not going to do it wikh a .bogus

sales tax reform which. I donst thinke is going to operate.

Por those reasons, I do not feel that this particular measu e

is.. is good for my people in Chicago and Cook county. And,

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Speaker Bluehardt) l'The Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Hydea''

uyde: ''ghank you, Mr. speakery Ladfes apd Gentlemen of tbeI .

House. if we are talktng abou't tax relfef for people,

this Amendment fs inadequate and very cumbersome. on thel

smaller transactions 3 1/2 percent is still 4 percent.

on the dollar purchase in Chicago, it's still a nickèl,

not 4 l/2 centsy unless we resort to tokens whic: we used

to have in this great State. I those transactions where*)

the retailer assumes the taxy such as gasoliney vending

machines ïn taverns, of course there i, no tax relief at

all, only'fcr tbe retaflér, no other Lstate in Illfnofs.. .

had..v.er...no othertstate fu the Dnfon has a fractional

sales tax. H*w well I remember the ffght led by Jack

Dewey and Art McGloom for a differential- ..how tbey

referred to corporations as the malifactors of great .

wealth and the economic royalists and they fought a good

fight on the Illinois Ineome Tax and they got a different-

i a 1 . . . ''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''For wbat reason does the Gentleman from

Kane wisb to be recognized? Mr. Hi11.H

Eill: 'îWelly Mr. Speaker, I'd like to have a lfttle order

in here. The point that the Speaker is makèfng now are

very good points and tt's very dffffcult for me to hear

him even thougb he has a very good voice-o.o.ah- . . .there

is so much noise that the noise is overshadowin: vhat he

is saying.'f

Speaker Bluthardt : '' I thought titey were coming thropglt loud

and clear . A11 rigbt y lets itave a little order and

r o c e ed . Mr . llyd e . 11P

yd e ; ''Thank you , S tr . This is - . . tbis type of nondif f erential

r e l :C e f f s a b o na n z a . . a h . . t o bu s in e s s , t b e b i g s p end e r s >

but it's throwing a dog biscuft to the bousewife. To

her it's a11 flash and very lfttle cash. If we are

sincere iu granting tax relief to people we ought to fn-

crease the exemption on the income tax and then remove

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t tally the sa le s tax on drugs and med f c f nes , which wa so

Mr . Schlickman ê s proposal . That S.s vo rkabley that is

easily administered and it p<ovfdes real tax relfef to

people. Now, we a11 know and ft's the worst sophfstry I

in the world to ignore the facts, that thfs fsn't reallyitax relief for those of us in the six northern couatfes.

This is a deviee to fund tbe RTA. if and when wethave an

RTA. But, I submit realistically none of us knows whether

tbat's going to f1y or not and if ft doesn't ve wfll have

this as the only tax relief program t%is Session which

* doesn't belp people as much as it helps businesses and '

corporations. As far as Ilm concerned this action sbould

wait until we know where we are on the RTA. If this

is the only vay to fund that. fine. But: ff that isn't

goinz to fly, if that isn't going ro ...if we're not going

to reach agreement, if tbe adjustments and the under-

standings and the comprômises between the various power

structures finally don't wash outp then we still have

. this limp, inadequate, cumbersomey non-sales tax relief

as ourzgift to the public. Sos Mr. Speakery Ladies

and Centlemen' I cannot support this measure because as

tax reltel it's a masquerade. It isn't tax relief to .

tbe people who really need it and as a means as funding

the RTA, it's very premature. Thank youw''

Speaker 3luthardt: l'Tbe Gentleman from Moultrieoo.-Mr.

Stone '' ' '

Stone: NMr. Speaker, 1 request a twenty mfuute recess for

purpose of a Democratic Conferenceo....l will pledge to

tbe other:side of the aisle that we wtll be back tn

twenty aïnutes.y..'.'' '

speaker Bluthardt: '1The centleman from Cook. Mr. Wflliam

Walsh.''

Walsh: HWell Mr. Speaker, I think in the interest of keeping

this place together, wefre going to have to exceed to

the Gentleman's request, unreasonable as ft is.

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There is no need in our opinion. for a Republican Con-

. fereace. Welll take the Gentleman at his word that. he

will be back in twenty minutes....and so ff Republtcans

>:11 kindly stay closeCand not talk Co Mr. DeGrazia it '

will be appreciated.''speaker Bluthardt: 'êA11 rfght. ThereAll be a twenty minute

recess. We'11 reconvene at ten rfnutes until tvelvek''

Unknown: ''What room: Mr. Speak>r?''speaker Blutkardt: ''M-5.....And the House is recessed for

twenty miqutes. State your polut, Mr. Pierce. The Chair

qr'recognizes Mr. Pierce, from ah...ah....M

fêAh Mr Speaker, I lust have a Point oi Yarliameut-Pierce) ... .ary Inquiry. Isùêt ft time nov to break for lunch: 1#m

ttlng a little Nungry. can we have a'.lunch reuess:guTbe cafeteria needs the business-''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''It's ratber crowded rigbt now. I#d sugges

that Ye Wait a fe< :ours.....M

Pierce : ''rhank you . ''Speaker Bluthardt) ''3uty if somebody will go over to the

Capitol Way. webll get a 1ot of Boys back Eerel''

RECESS......

Speaker Bluthardt: ''When ve recessed the follovlng pen had

requested to be heard er...indicated they wanted to>

speak..w..schneider, Douglas. 3arryp Schraeder and

'

uashihgton... anu....McC1atn. Do they still wish to be

heard? ....Toby Barry...... A1l right the Rouse vill come

to order. Tbe Chafr ncv recognizes the Gentleman from

Dupage, Mr. Schneider.....who nov does not wish to be

recognized. Mr. Douglas, from Cookz Zackeon tbe question

of concurrence, on House %i11 634, concurrence on

Amendsent o..senate Amendment #2 Mr. Douglas.''#

Douglas; ''Ah...Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemeo of' the

House, vhfle the events of the last few days have been

'

exciting and interesting, I think that it's eptremely

important as We debate thfs partfcular issue that pe

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1 37. !recognize tbat it extsts in and of itself. That it's

i n to the troubles that beset not the long range salvat o

the State of Illinofs, as sope people pretend that ft fs.

And, I think tbat 'in making this brief statement oa'rt:fs. 1

question of concurrence that it is important tbat I

discuss this issue as I see it. We are not talking about

tax reform. What we are debating now is whether or not

a few People's political fortunes sball rise and whether

or not with the help of the press they can pull off a

. public relations ploy ....ah...that fools the people of- Illinois into thinking that we are struggling to get tbem

tax relief. Llt's be honest with ourselves. lf govern-

ment in Illinois fncluding an RTA is to strive, it fsn't

going to be through pseudo tax relief. Itrls going to be

through adequate fundfng of gevernment programF. It

doesnet take a master màthematfcfan fn the Chicago area

to know that if you take one away from four, and t:en you

add ft back again: you still have four. What we need

is a meaningful and equitable use of State money. R1A is

not going to be funded in this way and the people of

Illfnois vho want and need roads, improved transportation

aud programs uf al1 types are going to suffer ff there

is a decrease of one hundred fifty-sit... . . .P

Speaker Blutbardt: ''For what purpose does the Gentleman from

take, Mr. Murpkys wîsh to be recognizedz%'

urphy: #'We11, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemenr6f the Eousey

again, t@is Gentleman is talking about RTA. Webve got

a concurrence mesoo.message here ehat we are votfng on,

tt bas to do with reducing the sales tax a half per cent.

kTA does not come into it and I raise a Foint of order

that he is not on the subject and that we just confine

our remarks to the subject of sales taxo''

peaker Blutbardt: ''Tbe Gentleman's point is pell taken, and

the Gentleman from Cook <ill lfmit h;s remarks to tbe

questlon of concurrence of the Amendment //2. t%e question

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of tax relief.''

Douglas: ''Mr. Speaker, to conclude my remarksy thfs con-

currence will lead to a loss of $1661000,000 in State

income and I repeat that the State of Illfnofs can f11

afford that. This fs a phony fssue. it's not an ïssue

of tax relief. And, I think it's been made phonler bby-

the press. I urge my fellow Legislators to be true to

their consciences...ah..and to their constituents and to

ignore the phoniness that'bhas been created by the press

accounts of this issue and to vote 'noê on tùfs con-

currence fssue.''

Speaker Bluthardt: îtThe Gentleman from Lakep Mr. Deuster.''

Deuster: ''A: Mr. Speaker,....ah....I rise with some hesi-

tatton. but I rise because the people of my district.

like the people of a1l the distriers of 2he Ceutlemen anG

Ladies in this House have sent us down here to dealpwfth

problems and subjects such as the concurrence on House

Bill 634. Like the Deacon across the afsles I put the

Bible up on my desk here so I#d try and be kind and

. . .ah..wrespectful and stick to the truth as I saw it fn

describing what's happening bere today. Ahdy I am.....'

want to say thisy I think everybody ïn thfs Bouse knows

thae ve are trying to put the cart before the horse

and we are trying to finance one Membefs Mass Transit

Programs before we consider 'em a11 on Second Readfng.

Ands I think t%e pro'per thing for the Sponsor of this

House Bill to do would be to take it out of the record

and to consider it at the proper tfme. Andy...ah.....And,

. . .1 thfnk that would ellminate a 1ot of this polïtical

bitterness and it would also ellminate the necessity for

speech that I feel compelled to deliver...''

Speaker Bluthardt: HThe Chair recognizes the Gentleman ftom

Lakem Mr. Murphy.''

Murphy: e'Mr. Speakery I insfsty agafny that the Speaker rule

any speaker out of order that talks about RTA oa tbis

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Bf11. Thfs ks a Sales Tax B111 and notbing elseo''

Speàker Bluthardt: MThe pofnt fs vell takeny as ve've al-'

ready ruled. Tbe Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Boulfhany for I

what purpose do you wish to be recogniaed?'' .

Houlihan: ''A Foint of Order, Mr. Speaker.'' . 1Speaker Bluthardt: nState your Point.'? jHoulihan: ''As I recall: when the Speaker was speaking last j

tfmes he talked about the Regional Transportation System

hfmself, I heard that over) some question for a Point of

Order he talked about the Regfonal Transportatlon System

first. He has made the issue tax relief knovn as a fund-

' ing proposal for Regional Transportation.o..pnot the '

Gentlemen that are speaking today. The Speaker himself

. in his own remarksy if you'll look at the redordy has '' .

' sa id ' t l:a t t11 l.s is s j o iat pr opo s a 1. 1: ' '

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Well I think your oble...your oblectfon

comes too late. No objectïon was çafsed at that tfme

and I think I can only rule on the objecttons as they. ' are made from the Floor. Nows'proceedy Mr. Deusterz'

Deuster: OMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of this '

' House......if...if....ah...points contfnue to be made .

which ...ah...gag the right of Members of this House to '

' speak the truth about what thïs is. then the only re-

course that Members of ehfs House will have ïs to march ' .''

. around and hold a press conference somewhere and te speak '

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j .about wiat s going on. And, the facts of the matter are

that the concurrence on House Bill 634 should be rejectedj 'I m sorry that we have to get to a vote on it

s but I '

' think t*e proper'thing for the Sponsor is to take it out

of t%e record. Buty I don't see an inclination to do

that. 1 think we ought to get to Second Reading ou as the e

many House..eah....Mass Transft Bflls and kf you Just look

at your Calendar youfll see a 1ot of êem. Represen-

tatfve Houlihan has one, Representative Schlickman has

onep there is two Houlihans with a Billy there are a lot

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j), proper aud orderly t:z - 1.. ng would lyï e 24 o r tyj e s oa s

or o é. /y t: jy rj s yj a s o z u y; vfy yy y; o ; a yra ;y y;

p;; out oz tse Record I

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!t speak agalnst the 0 - - -- - - * contlnue to !

ê the reason enat we suould

e Y11' 634- And' y j. ao (g eoyjous y.p rjyy.s ,y y' Speaker Blut uard t: : ,,s . . . . .2 r . D e u s t e r : I. . you ve J ,, ... - .your time j . < -- '- ck'out expended !y . . . . . sa y y , gys u s

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ave some thénj . gs to say tsat vouzd yembarrasséng y s e

y asrosa apa y aopy;ehem and Pfofep tO - - >maybe there és 66U XQCO: another rorun z

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have had an o ' . er the Meèbers

Pportunity to aaend ::a sass zranszr azzzson the calendar zuro xne y

orm so tsafdes of th ' 22 tbe Xeobers on b0the aïsle a11 og

. us caa zook at :to Thfrd Readin

t PQ a6d ve o 'y , aa, y,aa wayyy

aopyyaas myyo, sass yy ,Bflls have aerz: s ansit i. aybe therevs more thaa oua t: t : !Rerlt

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Speaker Bluthardt: ''The Gentleman from Peoria, Mr. Schraeder.''i' j

schraeder: ''Mr. Speaker. Members of the Houses the trfck

propqsal by Speaker Blair will cost us $166,000,000.

The Governor has made and is continuing to attempt to

keep the State on a sound fiscal ladder. He's advocated

tax cuts where it can be mada and made Judfeiously. We

now have a tman who is now Speaker of thfs House Nh@ isI

u%ing the ....smal1 fnnocent taxpayer as his highway to

the Governor's Chair. And, I think this is a disaster.

The Blair scheme doesn't give any relief to the small

't intend it to. And I'd llke thls to 1taxpayer, he doesnI

've got sfx counties up north. that are 1say....and weI

1 kf for some assistance on Mass Transit and I supporte Ioo ngI

the Bi11 and I cpuflht the devil back bomey hut it vas a I. '

necessary support. ue have to do it nowy but ve can't ' I'

Icome here today and tax people ïa that sfx county area '1

with a tremeadous amount of toney and they don't get any

servfce out of ft. And, Speaker Blair, I'm sorry to say, .

but you ought to use some other means to get to the

Governorts Chair.''

' Speaker Eluthardt: s'Ti&e Geatleman from....eœ.......Buzeau. '

s'Mr. Barry.'' '

Barry: ''Mr. Speaker and tadies and Gentlemen of the Housem

Ifm a little hoarse today because I'm one of those who

made noise yesterday so that we could be heard eoday. And

Iêm here to tell you that I feel as thoughidownstate

' Illfnofs and a1l of Illinois is about to be raped Fgafn,

particulatly downstate, as they were raped in January.

for Mass lransit in the urban area fn northeasteru Illinof . '

Jack Ri11 safd it about as well as I can. And, 'Murph'

I'm gofng to conffne my remarks to tax reliefo . wsales

tax relief in particular. Jack Hi11 said it better than

I can perhaps but 1et me repeat it if you wtll. We ln

this House voted a two cent reductfon fn sales tax for

;food and perscrlptfon drugs, sent that over to the Senate

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9 42.it comes back to us as a half percent reductïon of sales

tax and therefore a bne and one-half percent difference

on food and drugs. I suggest to you a half percent sales

tax reductioay not just for food and medfcïne, but for

the fat caty so to speak, as ft comes back to us. Now,

uhat are we dealing in? Welre dealîng in about one

hundred and fifty or one hundred and sixty or one hundred

and sixty-six millions of dollars for socalled sales

tax relief that a11 of us know vell w1l1 be reimposed in

sfx counties involved in-the Qransit Authority. That

means Ladies and Gentleaen that we are taking a round

figure of socalled sales tax relfef out of the State

coffers and advaacfng ft to the Transit Authoifty. Nows

Kaybe I'm simplistic in my thinking. but so far as I'm

concerned uebre doing nothing but rapfng the coffers of

the State of Illineis as an advance payuent of one hun-

dred ....er....of tw5 hundred mtllïon necessary to run

that system. Andm 1 think it's a damn shame and I'm

1 going to persist ia suggesting that thfs is nothfng more

than what happened in January fn grand fashiono'ê

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Al1 right. the Gentleman from Logan,1

Mr . Lauer .''!.

Lauert OMr. Speaiery Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, I9ml 1ng to éonflae my remarks specifleally to this Bitl

.goIBecause I think perhaps in politieally emotfon some

r .people have lost sigbt of the importance of thfs Bfll in

nd of itself. Quite frankly I 'ffnd this 3111 as ita

comes back f rom the Senate a mueh more acceptable 'Btl.l

than it vas when it left thls House. I ftnd lt amazfu:

Mr. Speaker. that so many men and women probably qufte

wèll educatedy many vith more degrees than Is can have

been educated tbrough the school èystemy b0th elementary

and secondary and higher education and so few of them

could have possibly gotten a passïng grade fn the most

basfc of economfcs courses. The sales tax has been a

..glrvy, , z'aV ' e'.y G E N E R A L A s s E M B L Y.' ? 7 C.> TI jr $- 4. , , !. . s x x x s o e. , t. u , .. o ' sk - kl .4..* .

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l 43. fI1l )perùicious tax for years because it fs regessive tn its J

' nature. It is one of those taxcs vhich charges the in- .

dividual who can least afford to pay. the greatest'

jpossible rates. It is one of those thfngsy Mr. SpeakeryI

hat in giv ing a half c ent tax relf ef fn sales tax , I 1tI

don't care hoN we replace it, I would favor replacing it lIjwith income tax..e..which is a much more fakr tax. ButsI

don't forget that Joe Doaks, when he goes fn and buys IIItwenty dollars worth of .. . .ah..clothes or....ah.ootuentyI'

jdollars worth of..o.maybe even a radio .....vfth vhich'to. 1

ing to be payfng a tax no matter lentertain bimself, is goI

. Iw:at his income is. No matter what hfs abflfty to pay. I

. . jLet's eonfine ourselves to this particular ïssue. The I

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jrelief on food and drugs: while well meant..-and well j

folznded.e.ewoul8 be awfully diffscelt ta administer. A j. 1flat cut of a half cent of the tax rate is easier to ad- j

minfster and it gives the relief where ft is needed and j

ft ls tax rellef. Down on the farmy you knowp we used j

to put blinders on horses to keep their attention dir- Iected ahead .....of them. I thiak maybe this Rouse needs '

y ' ': to conffne ftselfy not to the side issues, %ut rather to

' the fssu'e of eax reliafy per se. Forget about M'fA or R1A

or any of the other'transit systemsy let's pay attention

to tax relfef for Joe Doaks, the consumer of the State of 1Illinofs.'f 1

Speaker Bluthardt: ''A1l rfght, the Gentleman from Christianp I1' M

x Tipsword.'' j. @. .

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. 1' Tipsword: #lMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemeny'l regret too. I1

as one of the earlier speakers has said'hheres that we do I'j

not have what we a11 know are related sublect matters II

heard altogether upon the eccasion .. . wah..that this Bill lI

ts called for concurrence and I vish that we could. We 1.I

need, we well know in consfderatfon of this Bill anJ a11 I1

her Billsy some kfnd of Regfonal Mass Sransit in the iotI

northeastern part of the State Of Illfnois. It's absolutel I

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essentfal. But ft has to be one that the people of that

area can live with that serves them and that the entire

State of Illinois caa afford. Representatfve Barryy a

minute ago very well spelled out how the people of down-!

state Illinoïs are belng raped....o.and in fact as to how

all'of the people are being raped in the reduction of

state revenues by a hundred aud sfxty-ffve mflllon dellars.

We are demanding and reeeivlng demands al1 over the State

for money foT inczeases in funding schools from State

funds. For building State highways. 'Eor bettéfïngzour

Mental Realth Frogram. Ands I ask you, vhere fs that

money golng to come from? The Governor has told us a1-

ready that we can have some tax relief. But we can't

have every program that everyone vants ln the State of

Illfnois aud have a ï4ass l'ransit System tooe e. . .and take

money continuously from the State of Illinois for every-

thing and stfll hope to satisfy the wants of tbe people.

But, I would like to point out thae there fs another .

area that fs befng d/ubly effected.' Fortunately I do not

lïve there and I feel very sorry for those vho will have

to put up with it and that is those flve suburban couutfes.

f0r they are gofsg to loose their part of this hundred

aud sfxty-five million from State fusds. Xhey are goiag

to loose that money from their schools and from the

programs that would serve them.aoothefr percentage share

of fty but fn addftfoa they.are going to have the tax

put back on themy we a11 know, with twenty to twenty-two

million dollars being paid by them and perhaps a four

millïon dollar benefït comlng fron ft. And: the people

of Cook County are beïng seduced by being told they are

going to have a beautiful mass transit system and that the

taxes taken off but put back on because you can have the

mass transit system. They need money for their schools

too. They need money for highways. Andm they need money

ror mass transit and we would like to someway equïtably

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supply it for a11 of thefr wants and needs-.-.- on the

best possible basfs from the State of Itlinoisy but ve

can't do it wben we have this kind of program denying a1q

hearing to a11 other programs...-ah.-ofor the polftfcal

ambitions of one or two or three individuals fn the

State of Illinois. This has to and must be a cooperaeïve

program in tax relief and ft has to and must be a co-

operatlve program in provlding mass transit for the north-

eastern part of this State. Andy everyone in the State

I of Illinois must share in the benefits of what we do andnot continually be having rammed down their throats the

financing for some few indfviduals aabitions in one miuor

part of the Seate of Illfnols. Albelt there's sixty-five

percent of the population but it is only part 'of the

population and this is oae State that deserves one tax

system. one financing system and two statewïde parefesa''

Speaker Bluthardt: ##The Gentleman from Wtnaebago, Nr.'rsimmsy

Timo tlzy'' s ïmms . ',

Sfmms: ''We11: Hr. Speakers Ladles and Geatlemen of the House,

wefve heard a 1ot of watermelon conversation this morning

t%e watermelon conversation is tbis. it's a 1ot of voluma; .

nd a very little substance . I tlzfnk you have to loek at

really what is the real questlon the people of Illlnois

are faced vfth. I can't remember in my lifetlme when

there has been a State tax that has been reduced or

repealed. Never .in my lifetime can I remember that. It

amazes ..me that so many people of the opposite polftlcal

party who for years preached over the State of Illlnols to

abolish sales tax and reduce aalea tax now had tbe golden

opportunity and they refused to give to the people of

Illinois what they so badly deservep tax relief. The

issue is clears either you want to give tax relief to thepeople in the State of Illfnofs or you donft

, then go back

td your dfstrfcts and tell 'em accordingly.''

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Speaker Bluthardt: 'îA1l right, the Gentleman from.p.where fs

it? McLean7......Adams....Mr. Mcclain.''

McC1aïn: ''Thank you. Mr. Speakery Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House, I'd like to speak agaiast thfs motfon ff I may and

1'd ltke to say why. In the past eight years of family

fnvolvnent in the House of Representatives: many, times

I heard of ihis kind of trickery but I was always proud

of that family involvment because that ..operson was never

manipulated knowingly that I know ofp and he always came

back home to his family. And, I need to do that too so

I'm not going to be knowlngly manipulated. But: I'd like

to speak to vhat I think fs happenfng. And. I1m gofng

' to be a ltttle bit rougher than Rolly Tfpsvord and Toby

Barry and Fred Schraeder, I'm going to speak a little

bït more of the truth as far as 1'm concerned. We just '

might as well break thfs up a little bft and let's have

a lfttle excitement beèause thatîs what fs going to happen

I guess. It is a heck of a predicément that Chfcago puts

us in. T%p Speaker knows the most fmportant pleee of

Legfslatfon to the Xayor and Cook County is to get rtd

of the Cook County Public Aid Department. They vant the

State to take the burden-....whicb costs a hundred million

dellars. The Chieago Democrats know that politically this'sales tax reduction means more to the COP than any Bills

to come. ......The=Mayor knows that when Mr. Blatrês

Nass Traasit Bill passes the six county area, the six

county area will reeeive back thfs one and a half cent'sales tax increase. So, no real loss to those people.

Buty with Mr. Blair's package will come control from

Chicago of RTA.w.p..perfeet deal fer both partles...o.''

Speakerq.Bluthardt: 'îMay I remind the Gentleman to limit his

remarks to the Amendment, to the concurrence and to the

tax reliefe..and not go iato the RTA.H

Mcclain) ''Tbank you, Mr. Speaker. So what is the end resultl

Mr. Blair looks good for his b1d for Governor, 60P has a

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l lood issue f or 19 74 : the Governor looks bad , suburbanftesg

loose thefr control: Chicago controls Mass Transit,

ives a ha'lf cent sales tax reductfonp bydownstate rece I

. ' jthe way that will be a future bargaining power or lever

for another Bill, it puts us faithful downstate

Democrats in a bad positfon, Cook County gets ri4 ef

a Publfc Afd headache. it's a 'Massford' deal and Ilve

always told Speaker Blair that he is....he far outs%ines

our party in political maneuvering and smarts aad once .

' again I'd have'to salute him. I just tbink it's really. gj . .bad for the people of the State of lllinois.

Speaker Bluthardt: ''The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich-ee.. (Matijevich: ''Representative Mcclain. if you want to hear the .

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truth, Just keep listening. Mr. Speaker and Members of

myself.......who passed open meetlngs laws that people

ought to gbvernments ought to obey....I think have the

rfght to 1et the public know what has happened vith thfs

B1l1. Ihis is the third day that thfs Bill has ceme up.

1he first day Speaker Blafr'had the moot. Andx then there

w'as a Democratfc caucus, the Democrats heard from the

Governor and everybody knows tbaty and the Democrats

were faïrly united except for maybe two or three at the

' most. And, tbe Democrats were conviaced that the

Governorls tax relief program would provide fifty dollars

of tax relfef for éûklllinefs famfly of five earning

ten thousand dollars a year.. The normal family. The

3lair tax relief 'plan would provide only tventy-three'

dollars of tax relief for the same famfly. Accordlng to

the data tn the United States Internal Revenue Services

1972 Optfonal Etate Sales Tax Tables. lhe.Democrats

came out of there unlted. So he came back on the floor

of the House as Speaker Blair was gofng to announce on

the Floor of the House that the Minority Leader had

promised to delfver the votes on this B111 and everybodyI

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knows tbat too. ànd my Minority reader was pretty

nervous about that........- So, what happened theny t:e '

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votes weren t there. 3oy we had to have another call of . ,

the B111. Butp what happened fnbetween? Welly T'm

gofng to tell you what happened. The Mayor of Chicago:

iatervenedy you know he had ft.....a little more difficuït il

than be used to have it: because now he can call his son

rïght over from t:e Senate and walk on this floor of the

k'hfch fs what he dfd yeseerday.House and Lobby for himy :

Now, I noticed some kere up .... they uant to' object to

that but I'm....I'm gettfng to the t'rut: of thta matter.

Me came on the floor of thts House to Lobby 'the Chicago

Democrats to aupport the Blair Tax Relief P1an.......... .

Members : l'Yea yea . . . . 91 . ' '

Matijevïch: NAnd the people ought to Izave the rtght to kncw ',

that ...that'a part of a deal too. Andy'that part.......' .

in anybody that objects to putting the transit Bill in

eonsïderatfon with tbis vote has got to be out of theïr

mfud. And the people .....right to know that. Noey I'm

concerned about m'y county...ayou know you caa pass this

Eill and I have no shame at a1l in voting against con-

currence because don't tell me you're giving tax relief

to the people of Lake County when two miautes later you

are goin'g to take it away from them and gfve a hundred

million dollats to a group controlled by the City of . ''

. Chicago for tîeir own use. You donlt'hoodwink me...... .

f 'Xou don t hoodwink me when I represent the people in Lake

' County. Novy I think that we ought to be sïncere wfth

the people of the State of Illtnois. We ought to tell

9em that you knowy some call ft an agreement and it's

good and you call it a deal and ft's bad.....And, we kuow

that about a week ago there was a deal made here, every-

body knec ft, the Speaker kneW it..uw.hfs......ah...on

the Podium here right now knew lt because hfs tezfslatfve

vacancy Bi11 was part of tbat deal to ....f;ve Bill pack-)

age. The deal was made and fkme minutes we passed the

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Bills out. No'wy there's no deal now made to get a11 tax

relfef Bflls out of the House ....in the Senate. but

every Member here, every one bundred and seventy-six or

whatever Members are presçnt here today, everybody here

knows the deal can be made...it caa be made. And. who

can make it? Who can make it? Tbe same man that made

the deal on the first day of thfs Sesslon, Mayor Daley aad

Speaker Blair and ftls about ttme they make that deal.''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''The GentlçYan from k':7.2:...oh. let me

think. .....Mcteany Mr. Deavers.w.ê'

eavers: NMr. Speaker, I move the previous question.'î

embers: ''Yea....yea.....''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''The Geatleman has moved the prevfous

question. The questfon fs, shall that motion prevail?

l4r. l1iJ.l, you have four minuDes 1eft...ah...'w1l1 you

hold that motion? Four minutes. Proceedy Mr. Hfllz'

Hi11: ffMr. Speaker and Ladfes and Gentlemen of the Mouse,

I'm not going to talk abopt Mayor Daley. I'm not going to

talk about Bill Harris. over ir the Senates who I've

been 1ed to believe 'queered' everythfng. I'm not going

to speak about the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

I want to talk about the people from my area because those

are the 'people who are loing to suffer on this pattiûular

agreement and itgs not tùe people from Kane Countys from

Dupage County, from Will Countyp'but ftes those people

from Lake and McHenry Countfes. Nows theygre not going

to get tax relief and I resent t%e fact that some

people get up on tbis floor and sayy thfs fs a Bfll te

gfve tax relfef tp a1l of the people of the State of

Illinois. Well, I want you to know that it will not give

those people in ty area any tax relfef. I Want'you to

know that. These people that are State Representatives

and Senators from tbat District kho seem to be inclined

to vote for this Concurrence Motfon are only fooliag the

people from Kane County, Wiil Countys Dupage Couatyy and

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I s c .,!lthe other two counties. I want you to know that. NowsI

I'm sure that the news media aren't so dumb as to

realize what is transpiring here ....in regard to this

particular vote. Those people from downstate that want

to vote for concurrence, ybur people aren't zoing to

get a break on this. You can be well assured that along

the line someplace that Joe Doaks .who was talked about

before is going to take a severe beating. The ones that

are going to benefit from this pièce of Legislation

downstate are the retail merchants and you know that aa

well as I do. The only one that pays on the gross to

the State of Illinois are those merchants and they are

going to be colleeting those pennies from ....ah....

Joe Doaks here in the State of Illinois. I want you

to know that any purcllase under a dollar, they uaalt

split that penny in half and they are still going to

be paying that five cents. You can't deny that. That

' happened before and it is going to happen again. It's

l f those people and not for the coasumer ofa bonanza or

the State of Illinois.p-..and I'd request that you do not

vote for doncurrence. Tbank youog'

speaker Bluthardt: ''AII right. The Gentleman from McLèah :has

moved the previous question. Mr. Redmoads for what

Aurpose do you wishr'to be recognizedl''1

Redmond: HWe1l, Mr......Mr. Speaker and Members of the Housey

I didn't anticipate the'motion and I did want to have

the opportunity to address myself to the Bi1l for a few

moments. If you would bold it. 1 don't very often take

the Floor, as you well knou.''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''A11 right, proceed. He'll hold it up for

five minutes.f'

Redmond: HMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housey

in my judgment any suggestion that this Bill represents

tax relief in any form is absolute nonsense. We a11 know

that it's not and we.'all know that ..w.that lt'a going

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to be imposed again ia aaother guise very shortly. So,

. . . .1 come from Dupage county, one of the Countfes that ,

fs going to be a captive in the socalled Mayor Daley.

Bob Blair..v.aho.Transportation System. Now, the reason II

that we have this is that the Federal Government has

Iindicated that no funds would be available unless you

had a Regfonal Transportation System. So we've con-

cocted this Mayor Daleyy Bob Blair Transportation System

wbere practically nïnetyifive percent of the revenue goes

to the City of'chicagoy which they would not be elfgible

at the present time. Now. some of you know that I am

not only the Democratic Representative but I am also the

Democratfc County':lchairman of Dupage County and in that

latter roll, I should probably take great joy to the fact

tbat this Pepublicar Mayor Daley. Bab Blair.Transpotxtatfcn

System ïs gofng to be foist'ed on the people of Dupage

County who don't want any part of it. 'Andy I'd like to

thfnk that I'm speakfng not only for two hundred thousand

Democrats but also for three hundred thousaad Republicans.

Ands if anybody thinks that this is goipg to b/ the trafn

or the vehicle to t:e Covernors offices 1et me say that'

j# 7 . .they will find that it is the most unpopuïar type of '

arbitrary Legislation that could be fmposed from thek j

areas that normally return large Republican vèrdicts. I I

should look forcard vfth a great amouat of glee because

I can tell you that we will. have a truth squad that if

anybody comes into our County or into that area we wfll

be very sure that everybody knows that thïs is a Repub-

lican .....Mayor Daleys Bob Blair Metropolitan Transpor=

tatfon System that renders no service to the area but

takes a11 tbe money away and tbat they haxe absolutely no

voïce in the management. Therefore ft vould seem to me

that we have no cboice except to nonconcur. Thank you.''

Speaker Bluthardt: T'Thank you. The Chair has recpgnized

Mr. Deavers on his motiona...his motion should be put to

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the floor. lakes preeedence over that and the...ah... '

motion is....ah..-the previous question. A1l in favor

of the motion will indicate by saying 'aye'. Contrary 'I

. . .and the 'ayes' have it. A11 right. The question..... 1,

the Chair recognizeg the Gentleman from Wills Speaker l

Blair to close.'' li

,1 1: !Blair: Thank you, Mr. Speaker...

''It would appear to me, Mr. Houlihan, 1Speaker Bluthardt:

thato..ah..that came through very clearly in favor of

the motion and I don't see any reason for taking a koll

Call after that indication was given.....'' .

Houlihan: ''We11 Mr. Speaker....'' .

Speaker Bluthardt: ''I don't have to take orders form the

Speaker, I don't have to take orders frem you. Now if

you want to be recognized make your remarks short. Youdve

been on the floor quite a bit...oso go aheadp make your

remarksa 1:11 give you two minutes.n

Houlihan: '1Mr. Speakery I rose not to make my remarks. I '

rose to point out you gave courtesy to some Members to '' . I

speak ....ït ought to be given to a11 Members. I now' . 1

. a s k , wh fz t; d o e s! ' :!. t ', ' r e q I : f r e f or u JJ t o c 1 o s e o f f d e ba t e ? ##

Speaker Bluthardt: 'Q t takes a two-thirds majority of those ''

f . Ivoting oa the questïon.'' ' '

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Houllhan: 'Q nov ask for a Roll Call and I ask for five '

Members to jofn me in asking for a Roll Call on that '

ma t ter . '' ' ' . .

' Speaker Bluthardt: ''Wel1 I doa't thfnk tbat comes fn due> .

tfme: but Ilm goïng to gfve you the Roll Call anyhcw.

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Houlfhan: ''Thank you very much.''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Rol1 Call. A1l fn favor of the rotfon

will vote êayel.....the motfon fs.o.the prevlous question.

and those in favor of the motfon wfll ïndfcat'e by votfng

'aye' those against will vote 'nay'. And the..ofor

what purpose the Gentleman from Lakes Mr. Murphy wish

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evich: ''Ild like to explain my vote. .u ...'... .. . .Mr. .

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o get some help so that you ean close debatem.pke know 1

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1. Eoulisan: ''Mr. speaker, z.d lïke to be recorn'iaed at th

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Daa Eoulihan 'aye'.o...and this motion having Teeeived'

the necessary two-thtzds vote is hereby declared pa

ssed.Mr Houliban.'s '

Houlthan: ''I would respectfully ask for a verification of

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the Roll Ca11.f'

7 Speaker Bluthardt: MAII right

. ...wish to poll t:e absenteesfirsva''

Clerk Selcket ''Deavexs, do you want the absentees polledl''Seeaker Bluthardt: ''AII

rfgbtp we wiI1 poll the absentees

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clerk Selcke: ''Arrigo, Capuzi-''

speaker Bluthardt: fîcapuzi 'aye'.''

' Iclerk selcke: ''Carter, Eleck, Friedland, Granata. Criesheimerp :

Hirscbfeldy Ron Hoffman, R. Holloway, Juckett.''

Speaker Bluthardt: HJuckett 'ayeg.''

Cterk Selcke: OLundy: Maragos, McAvoy, Mccourt, Sevcfk,

Springer, Stone, Telcser: VonBoeckman: Rfchard Walshy

Washington.''

speaker Bluthardt: ''Washington 'no'o''

' Clerk Selcke: HB.B. Wolfe.'' .

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. Leon, for what purpose do you .'

wfsh to be recoanized?'',

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Speaker Bluthardt: ''How is Mr. Leon recorded?'' .

Clerk Selcke: HThe Gentleman is recorded as voting fno#o'ê

Leon: ''Please change that to 'aye'.n ' .

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Cbange that from 'no' to 'aye'. For

what purpose does the Gentleman from Ceok, Mr. Caldwelly

vfsh to be recognized?''

Caldwell: nHov am I recorded?''h; .

speaker Bluthardt: ê'How is the Gentleman recorded?''i .Clerk Selcke: l'The Gentleman is recorded as votfng eaye#.''

Caldwell: ''Please change it to 'no'o'' ' k

speaker Blutbardt: ''Change him from 'aye' to 'nay'. The

Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz.'' '

Lechowicz; HMr. Speakers how am I recorded?''

Speaker Blutharde: ''nov is tbe Gentleman recorded?''

' ?? 1 . Ae 'Clerk Selcke: The Gentleman fs recorded as voting no .

Lechowicz: ''Absolutely correct. ' I think ft fs a dfsgrace

when Democrats vote on a measure to put off debate on

suth an tmportant subject.'î

Speaker Bluthardt: î'On this motion there are 105 îayes', 50

'nays'. Do you wish to proceed wtth veriftcation? The

centleman from Fayettem Mr. Brummet: for whàt' purpose'

do you vlsh to be recognized?l'

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Brummet: ''SOW am T recordedlî'! ' jl '.

S eaker Bluthardt : ''HO!J is Xr . Brummet recorded ? ''P .

Clerk S elcke : ''The Centleman is r ec orded as vo ting ' aye ' .''

Brummet: ''Change that to 'no'.î'!

s eaker Bluthardt : ''Change Mr . Brummet f rom 9 aye ' to ? no ' .P

Mr . Fr iedland vo t es ' aye ' ? Fr iedland y how f s he i

recorded?''

Clerk Selcke: HThe Gentleman is recorded as not voting.''' i

S k Bluthardt: ''Vote him as 'aye' For what purposepea er .'

. . jdoes the Gentleman from Cooks Mr. Farley wish to be'

j. d ? ï' ' 'r e c 0 gn Z e

Farley: NHow am I recorded, Mr. Speakerr'

Speaker Bluthardt: ''How is Mr. Farley recorded?''

Clerk Selcke: 'lThe Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'o'' ''.

Farley: ''Would you change that to 'no' please?'' ''

Speaker Bluthardt: f1A11 right. The Gentleman from Cooky

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shea: ''Mr. Speakery how am I recorded?''

Speaker Bluthardt: 'fHow is Mr. Shea recorded?''

Clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as voting' 'aye'-''

Shea: HMr. Speakery would you change that to 'no' and do .

you think we could have a new Roll Call? I think It I. l

would save a 1ot of time.''If . . v . .: . ' .Speaker Biuthardt: Change Mr. Shea from aye to nay . '

A11 rightp Ve will take a nev Roll Call ahd on this E

motion, the motion on the previous questiony those in

favor wifl vote 'ayeï, for what purpose does the

Gentleman from Livingstons Mr. Hunsicker, wish to be. j, . ;recognfzed? . . .

Hunsicker: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Centlemen of the

Housep if we have another Roll Call I suggest that

everybody votes tbe way they want to vote thls time

and let's save time and get on with the business of the

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Speaker Bluthardt: îfThe Gentleman from McLeany Mr. Deavers.''

Deavers: DMr . Speaker, not to disrupt the order of business

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in the House I would like to withdraw my motfon.n

speauer Bluthardt: ''Al1 right, the motlon has been withdrawn.

ue wlll proceed. Now, 1et me point out that I have

already reeogntzed 22 people who speak on this matter . (' !so I don't think debate is really being cut up. Back on I

I' ' . , jthe debate, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. James Houlihang' i

Houlihan.: HMr. Speaker and Members of the Housey I had

wanted to ask the prlncipal Sponsor of this legfslation

Of concurrence a couple of questfonszê '. ) .

Speaker Bluthardt: HWi1l the Centleman yield to the Gentleman

on the floor? Would you mind holding that for a while

until the Speaker gets back oh the floor?''

Houl ihan: ''Certainly . R' . ''

Speaker Bluthardtt DAll right: he is here now . The Gentleman '

indicates he wf11 yield.ît '

Ij ' IHoulihan: Speaker Blair, voting for this concurrence: am

. I right in that we would be voting for 1 1/2 cents less '

tax reduction on food and medicine. Is that correct?'' '

Blair: ''Along with a1l other items on which the tax appliesp''

j, 'Houlihan: So in other words, we would be voting onp not

a reduction on sales tax on food and medicine but

fncreasing ft from what wc had voted on last time. Isi . .

that correct?f' . '

Blair: ''No that is notv'' ' '#'

. Houllhan: ''I dtsagree, Mr. Speaker.'' .

Blair: ''Wel1, now wait a minutey letês discuss thate''

Houlihan: ''No, I would like an answer to my question and then '

. I will move on. Mr. Speakers have you spoken to the

mayor about this? The mayor of tbe city of Chicago.''

jj 4 'Speàker Bluthardt: The Chair would rule that that s an

fmproper question. I don't see where it is material

,' 1here. . .

Houlihan: îîWas the ruling that that was an improper questions

Mr. Speaker?''

Speaker Bluthardt: I1I ruled that out of ordero''

Houlihan: GMr. Speakery 1et me ask you another question. You

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are a principàl Sponsor of Hèuse Bill 1958. If b0th

of these Bills which you passedp which you sponsored

would there be any sales tax' reductfon for'ehe sfx

counties ln northeastern Illinois?''

Elair: 6$1958 is not the question before the House at thls

time. The question is the...î'

Houlihan: 'TMr. Speaker. you mfght give me a lfttle b1t of

latitude...''

Blair: ''Would you mfnd gfvfngmrme tbe courtesy whicb you

all. you know, didn't last night and 1et me finish

answerïng the question before the House is the Senate

Amendment //2 to House Bill 634. It is a veryy very

sfmple Amendment and a1l it does is reduce the State's

share on the R0T and the collateral taxes from 4: to

3 kl?z. It has nothing. just a zoment: it bas nothlng .

in it whatsoever to do with any regfonal transporratfen

plan. There is no mention at all. If you would readx

st a momebnt, if you would read- -'' 'lu

noulïhan: ''Tbank you, Mr. speaker. You have answered my

uestion-'f. q

Blair: ''Yes, tf you would 1et me answer a'little further.'

xf you wouîd just simply read the Amendment yot. wuuld

see that it has no thing to do witll that sub.j ect . Nov,

fnsof ar as your . . . ''

Houlihan: ''I would suggest , Members of this Generat Assembly.

hat this vo te is a shau vo te . It is aot a vo te f or thet

1 i t t l e p e o p le , tll e p e o p 1 e tlza t n e e d tb e r ed uc t 5. on o tz

food and sales, not a votey but it's a vote rather to

fool the people of Illinois. the 65Z of those people

vho lïve ln the northern area of Chicago and the Cook

county area and tbe five countfes whfch surround that.

I would suggest that a vote for this concurrence is a

vote not for tax relfef but a voee to pull the wool over

the eyes of the people of Illinois by holding out a

little plum for the docnseate peopley not what we :ad

passed priginally, but a lessening of that tax reiief

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d then very secretary and privately rafding the !an ,

general revenue fund for $100,000,000, somethin'g that

no one can do, no one can do in a straightforward manner.I

lhis fs a raid on the general revenue fund for

$100.000,000 to fund the Regioaal Transportationy whatever !

it is and I would suggest that there are other ways

more equftable and much fafrer and that we could gfve

tax relief to a11 the people of Illfnofs and not on :. 1

one day, when we diseuss just this concurrence: pretend .1. '1 .

and make a phony gesture o'f tax relief for the people

of Illinois and then fn the other handp next day or

later, we take that tax relief away. I would suggest

that this is''dfshonest and I would suggest further that

this is the result not of public examinations not of .

real scrutiny of the merits of b0th of the cases, but

rather somethfng that has been doae out of the scrutïny

of the public, something that has been done without

fair examination and something whfch no one shbuld be

proud of. I would suggest that we look at the Roll

Calls, the people that vote for this concurrence and

those who vote for an RTA whfch fs based on a funding

of a sales tax. I would suggest further that we examine

the Roll Ca11...'1 '' speaker Bluthardt: ''Wi11 you bring your remarks to a close?''

Houlihan; ê'I will bring my rexarks to a close. Mr. Speaker/

' I vill bring my remarks to a close but one of the

Members on this side has indicated there has only been .

5 1/2 mïnutes taken. It is my feeling that we ought

' not to vote for this concurrence because it is a sham.

Itfs a bold attempt by one individual to make a deal

in prfvate and then to get all the credft for something

which none of us want and that isp to fool'tthh people

of Illfnofs into thinking that we have done something

for them and tben take it away the next day. Nowa I

think that's very unfair.''

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Pappas: $>Mr. Speaker and tadies and Gentlemen of the House. ' ;

I have no Jobs that DeGrazia can take away from me so

I nove the prevfous question.l'

Speaker Bluthardt: ''The Chair now reeoanizes Speaker Blair . '

to close. For what, state your polnt of ordery Mr. !

Houlihan.'gvj '

Houlihan: Mr. Speaker, the previous Gentleman has made a ;l

speeuh and moved t:e previous question. He has also 1

spoken about a Member that is not on the floor. What

about SpeakertBlair's deaf' with Mayor Daley for lobs?

That's what I would like to know about.'ê . '

Speaker Bluthardt: MFoint of order. For what purpose does. . ' . .

he Gentleman f I om xcook , Mr . Lechowic z wish to be l. t

recognized? Xr. Shea. The Chair recognires Mr. Shea.l'

shea: f'Wà11. Mr. Speaker, let us talk about the Bill before '.. ' . '

ua, for the Bill for tax relief for the peaple af the

State of Illinols.l' . ' '

speaker Bluthardt: ''The Chair now recognfzes the Sponsor toI ' ' . '

lose Mr . Blair . '' ' . . 'c : . .

Blair: ''We11, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think that the'

issue has been rather adequately debated. It will '

provide broad-based tax relfef to every citizen in'

wthe State of Illinois. That's a àact. Thatês all thatts

:: ia Senate Amendment #2. What happené vith any other

' leRislatfon will happen but rightr'.now the question

that we have before us fs whether or not we want sales

tax relief broad-based for the people of t:e State of '

Illinois. Nok, I dongt say this fn order to in any'

. vay create agitation with the other side of the aisle '

because I franklyy eonsider each and every one of you a

frfend of wlne over there. The fact of the matter is

that ït has been years and years and years a plankuin

1t:e Democrattc partynplatform to do away with the salestax and We have an Opportunity to do thfs and I suggest ' I

. Ithat your brethren in the Senate recognize that when I

Ievery oemocratic senator voted for this measure that I

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was on the floor. This f's bipartisian tax relfef and (l

quite frankly, I don't think that wben this becomes 1aw

within six months or a year anybody will really renember

who had anythfng to do wfth the passage of it, who ;

;was tbe Sponsor of it. I qufte frankly think if you wanti

Ime to be perfectly candid wfth you that the GovernorI

Iis going to be better able to say than anybody here that I1Ihe enaeted into 1aw sales tax relief. soy I think the. Iiarguments that have been made that there fs some personalI

advantage to be gained by the Sponsors of thfs legislatlon

are just frresponsible. And I would also lfke to polnt

out that this 1/2 ceùt across the board is not my

Amendment. It was an Amendment that was put on ln the

Senate. I would apprecfate a favorable vote, Mr.

Speaker.''

Speaker Bluthardt; 'fThe question iss shall the House concur

with Senate Amendment #2 te House Bf11 634. A1t in

favor will vote 'a#elj'. those opposed will fote 'nay'.. T:e Gentlemaa froo. t:e Gentleman from Unians Mr. Choate.s'

) Choate: HWe11, Mr. Speaker. tadies and Gentlemen of the House.one of the reasons I have been a little qufet around

here today is I Just don't feel good. . I have got tbat

little bit of virus, I guess but I am not gofng to. ' . L k

cast any aspersions, I am not going to be critical of

the actfons of anybody in this House of Representatives.

I am pot going to talk ahovt may%e even the merits of

thïs pfece of legfslation but I am going to talk about

somethfng that I feel strolg about and I am gofng to

talk about hopefully, one of these days we vill get a

cooperatfve, a cooperatfve operation as far as the twolHouses in thfs Legislature are concerned and I am talking I

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jabout the Kouse and I am talking about the Senate.

t Bezause to be quite frank With you. if it hadn't of

been for the Majority party fn the State Senate locking .

1themselves into a position and party caucus. you vouldn'ti

have been havfng the hassle that fs existing on the floor

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of this House today. It wasnît brought about by the

Speaker of this House and ft wasn't brought about by iI

the Members on that sfde of the aisle or the Members on iI

this qfde of the afsle aad it wasn't brought about by Ii

the Covernor of thfs State and it wasn't brought about

by the Mayor of the ciry of Chicago. It was brought

about by the actions on tbe other side of the rotunda.

It was brought about simply because they refused to

agree to allow various tax programs to be placed on

the chief executive's desk and makfng hfm responsible(, '

for selecting the one that he felt was most beneficial

. to the people of this State. There is other tax proposals

. in this Legislature. I have no fear but what t%ts House

will act fn a responsible manner. I have no fear but what

thls House wtll act fn a responsible manner and duly

consfder a1l tax proposals and vote their consctence

rather than taking t:e action that was taken on the

other sfde of the rotunda and refusing to give the '

chief executive the prerogative of deemlng wbat he deemed

necessary-yand best as far as the people of thfs State are

concerned. I knov, I know that I have stood on the floor

of this Legtslature. I know that most Members here,

when they campaigns when they campafga indoor districts

and throughout the State of Illinois have said tbat we

must bring about tax relief bring about tax reform and@

I know that the Members on the other side of the rotunda

have done tbe same thïng and I think it's a shame for

them to say to wey to the cbief executive and to the

people of this State that >ou take thefr proposal or

you take no proposal and I can assure the Members on the

other side of the rotunda that from today on untfl such

tfme as they quit that borrendous Commfttee actfon that

l they save as far as proxles are concerned where one man1$I1 can absolutely dominate and control a Commfttee and until!

such ttme as they quft actlng in the manner in which they

do insofar as House legfslation fs concerned and other

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62.' lprogramsy that from thfs 'day forward there is gotng to

llbe an extremely close scrutiny as far as Senate legislatio

fn this body is concerned.''

Speaker Bluthardt: î'The Centleman from Macon, Mr. Borchersvîê

Borchers: ''In explainings Mr. Speaker aad fellow Members of

the House in explaining my vote, I won't take over the

two mfnutes. I am not voting as a Member of the

Republican or an admirel of the Bemocratic partys it

just happens I am votfng for myself and this particular

Bill I aa votfng 'aye'. I am voting 'aye' because 1

%ellege in taking one step at a time and this Bill does

provide tax relfef so I vote for that. I tell you rigbt

now I am going to just as cheerfully vote 'no' on

evety mass transit Bill that comes up tbereafter because

it is, and I will not vote to added tax to the people

in five counnies. 1 siuply woa't do ft. ï 'beliuve the

people must stand on t/eir own feet fncluding the

northern counties and they can'solve their own pr/blems

vith the money and the wealth that they bave. My

people, as far as I am concerned. are not gofng to be

paying for mass transit for people from Chicago . But

thfs fs tax relfef éo I can vote for it. And again, I

mlght just, l will just end u# by stating again tbat

a11 of us must stand on our own feemy so take one step

at a time. vote your consctence for each step and if

you don't like mass transit d:wnstate. vete against it

when the time comes whidhtl shall do.'' .Speaker Bluthardt: ''Tbe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Sheao

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Shea: ''Mr. Speakery Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, thls

B111 reduees the sales tax in the State of Illlnofs by

1/2 cent. Since 1 have been in this Lejlslature in

f66, fn 168. in '70 in '72 and '74 thfs has been part

of my party platform to reduce the sales tax and ro

reduce taxes. This Bi11 is for tax relief for t%e

People. There ls another Bi1l, the Governor's Bill and

I will vote for that Bfll and I Wfll vote for every Bi11

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State of Illinois. lbere are other Bflls ôn thts

calendar that vill help the Governor save substantfalt

amount of monies and I will vote for those Bflls. I

cast my vote 'ayed.''

Speaker Bluthardt: f'The Gentleman from Ceoks Mr. Washington-''

W h1n ton: f'Mr S eaker Members of the House the S/eakeras g . P y ,has ruled consistently that the only debatable fssue

Yefore the Mouse are the perits of Rouse Bill 636. I/

think that's unrealfstic but if that's the ruling, so

be ft. I thfnk the Bi11 that we voted out of here and

sent topthe Senate is a Bill tbat ve should stand up

for. The Speaker of the House says he has nothing to

do vfth this Amendment. He didn't put it on . Xe says

that the Senàte put it on. That's true. It seems to

. me at least insisty make him insist that perhap's the

Amendment be taken off. I have a feeling that there may

have been some agreement somewhere along the line and

that thïs was foreseen and vhen ft got to the Senate it

Was placed on. Tbe fact that 57 Meabers of the Senate

voted for it doesn't impress me positlvely. It gears

' . ne up Zo fight tbzs Aneniment evan mara fIt 1 fgltt of

. the treatment we have received. But the reason I am

voting fno' on tbe concurrence. Mr. Speaker, is simply

thfs. House B11l 634 in its original form would have

been a tremendous value in my communftyy in my community.

It would make more sense in my community to get a 2 cent

reduction on the sale of food than l/2 cent reductfon

across tbe board., It's just that simple. It seems to

me that ve are sèntdherbvto vote our best interests as

we see them in the tfme that a partfcular Bill comes up.

This origfnal Bfll: 634, as we sent it to the Senate

would have been a value to my community. As the Senate

amended its ft would be of much, much less value. 1

am voting for my community. 1 am not going to wait for

Bills Lo come up tn the future and vote on them because

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I have found over the past experience fn thfs session

that promises donlt mean anythfng. I recall when we. 1

had this original Bill up, 634, there were several

t they lpromises made on the other sfde of the aisle thawould support Representative Marag6s' 12l but when 121

came on the floory those votes on the other slde could

' not be found. So I am going to vote before the Btlly

the 3f11 before me. I am not goiag to project anythlng.). ) ' .

other than that Bill and I urge my colleagues ïf you '

are concerned about your distrfcts fn the inter city and. ' l

.if you truly are coacerned about tax reform.'ahd lessening

h ax burden on the peopl'e in your distrfcts then 't e t

the sensible thing to do is to move to non-concur, send

this Bill back to the Senate and see vhat happens from. ' . ' 'then on. I vote Inolï'' '

Speaker Bluthardt: ''The Centleman from Lake, Mr. Grieshetmerp''

Griesheimer: ''Mr. Speakeriand Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House: I have not cast my vote oa this and I have been

going through probably the same pangs of conscience

that many of us have here. I promised the 185.000 .

people of my districts that I would vote for tax relief

and I am sitting here as a Representative from one of

. the outlying counties saying to myselfy can I vote for

this Bill and promise them I gave them tax relief and

d and take that l/2 cent and turn it ïntothea tura aroun. ' Chicago on this regional plan which is on the present,

we cannot fgnore ft and still say that I gave them any

tax relief. Tbe only thing I can do fs at thfs tfme

take one Bill at a time. At tbe present time tbis 3i1l

is before us. I promised I vould vote for tax relief.

I wfll vote for tax relief but I ask everyone of you to

let me keep the fafth with the people of my district and

for Godls sake, let's kill thfs terrible transit Bill.

because I don't want to have to go back to my people and

say I voted for thts l/2 cent but then the Legislature

turned around and repaid it to the cfry of Chicago on

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a transit B111 for the CIA. Please give us a hand. '

We would appreciate it in Lake county.n

Speakèr Bluthardtt 'IAllceight, the Gentlempn from McLeany

Mr. Bradley.o

Bradley: îo bank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and Ladies and

Gentlemen of the Houses I think everybody almost has

to explain their vote one way or the other on this

particular issue. It is tax relief as advertised exûept

that we have otber tax relief programs before us thét. :' ;'

fn my opinion would ftt the needs of the people throughout

the State much better than the particular Bill fn the

partfcular pfece of legislation we have before us. 1he

Walker-choate tax rellef program would kive $50 of tax

relief to every Illinois family of five in thfs State. .

The program we have before us short changes that partfcula

family and they can expect a tax relief of approximately

$23. I think we have to remember also, at least the '

Members on this sfde of the aisle, and I think ft should '

. be recalled to Members on that side of the afsle that

the people of this State elected Governor Walker to be

the Governor of this State. He has a tax relfef program

before us and I thsnk zhat fs the one that we should

pass because the people gave hfm the mandate 'tô run

and be the executive officer and run this State and get

us out of the program tbat ve vere in for four years

that that side of the aisle gave us. They gave us a

tax program that generated too much meney for the State

. of Illinois over $100.000.000 too nueh and the people

asked for some relief by electing the Governer of thfs

State. 1 am going to support the Governor by votfng, , 'no on this Bill because I thlnk that is what the

people in thts State wanted. They want more tax relfef

than this proviues for. Ahis is t:e poorer of the poorest

of tax rettef programs that have been before us in thls

House. so I vote 'nol f'

Speaker Bluthaqdt: ''œhe Gentleaaa from Cooky Mr . Mecoumtoî'

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Mccourt: #fMr. Speaker and Ladfes and Gentlemens I have had

little trouble deciding how I was going to vote on

this but my good friend, Weber Borchers has cleared my

head. Until we realize, a11 of us. whether we are from

upstate or downstate, that mass traasit fs a State

problem like education is a State problem: and until

we accept our responsibflity to keep the vitality of the

most vital area in the State, the area that is basically

supporting the State, I am not going to be a phony. I

am not going to go home to my people and say, yes, I

helped lower your taxes by 1/2 cent and yesy I hèlped

your mass transit keep going, my community is the

only commuaity in the State. I would venture to say right

this minute that my people are walking because they

don't have any bus service and until the whole question

is resolvedy not on a piecemeal: phony basis, I am happy

to vote 'no' and I would encourage many of my colleagues

who thought when they came down here they were being

elected to a deliberative body. that they also will

vote 'no' until a11 the questions on the whole problem

are answered. Thank you.n

Speaker Bluthardt: HAl1 rikhty the Gentleman from Lake. Mr.ll Pierce.''ll Pïerce: ''Mr. speaker, Ladfes and Gentlemen of the H/use,

first fn explafning my vote, we only are voting on

concurrence here. Many people on this side of the

aisle voted for SpeakerlBlair's Bill when it passed

the House. It provided for a 2 cent decrease fn food '

and mediciney the sales tax on food and medicine which

would help tbe poor and help everyone in tbe State.

we a11 eat, but hèlp the poor in partlcular. The

senate put a bad Amendment on. They raised the tax

on food and medicine a cent a half up again and they

provided for tax relief for cadlllacs. for fur coatss

for jewelry, for diamonds, for luxury items that you

might buy and gave everyone the same 1/2 cent tax break.

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't think the Senute Am'endment ls a good one. But tSo I don. ;l l

this isn't final passage. Tbis is only concurrence.

We can vote to nonconcur today: maybe the Senate will

recede from their bad Amendment. If they don't we are. . !in a conferenee Committee: we have time to vork this

out. We have tiaey if you will excuse the expression,I

to work out the Regional Transportatfon Authority in

a conferenee Committee. We don't have to take final

action today. Now, my fellow, so I am going to vote

'no' on eoncurrence although I do favor tax relief and

in the end might even end up voting for this Bfl1 when

it came out of a èonference''committee after we try to '.

give the Senate some reason and have them lower the

sales tax on food asd medicine. So 1 am going to vote I

'no '. But now, number two item, my fellow vhïps want

Ito remfnd yoa all, and tbat is Nr. Murphy: Xr. Craig, i

Cox and myself there will probably be a verificatfon on i'

this vote. So let's vote our own switches. Thank you

jy 11 ' . 'Very muc . . '

Speaker Blutbardt: ''lhe Lady from Lakey Ms. Geo-Karfs.''

Geo-Karis: 'fMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House: in explainfng my vote I would lfke to answer

'aye' and I consent I am part of a deal. My deal is

with the people of my district in the State of Illinois.

I fntend to see to it tbey get any and a1l tax relief

they possibly can get and maybe l/2 cent doesn't mean

much to some of us but it means an awful' 1ot to many

people and therefore: any tax relfef we can get I am' for Nt and I pledged to it and therefores I vote 'yesVa''

Speaker Bluthardt: Uohe Gentleman from Sangamon: Mr. Londrfgan.'?

tondrigan: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Eousey

I have consistently voted for every tax relief program

and particularly foodaand medicine. Mine was the orîginat!

Bill to give sales tax reltef for food and medicine1

which the present Sponsor supported three years ago and iI

then deserted the ship when he and the Governor Ogilvie I

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said they do not have sufficient monies at that tfme.

I could not get one Republican vote. I fntroduced the

measure agaln this time and dfd recefve some Republfcan:

support in the House but the Sponsor of this Bill saidI

he would kfll it in the Senate and he did. He introduced

Eouse Bill 63:, a sales tax relief for food and medicine

and I and nany others support it and 1 eontinue to

support the original 364. If 'we do not concur fn this

Amendment for a11 the good reasons given here today.. t

we vill send this back to the Senate so that we can

possibly obtain the better and more deserving tax

relief on food and medicine. So in votfng 'nof on

this Amendment, we are in fact voting 'yes' on the

original Bill to give sales tax relief on food and

medieine . '' '

Speaker Bluthardt: f'The Gentleman frow Cooky Mr. Huskey.''

Huskey: MMr. Speaker, Ladfes and Centlemea of the Eousep

previous legiàlators have always voted to inerease

the retail occupational tax. I feel that today fs

probably the first history makfng day fn 33 years of

this regressive sales tax so I want to be in on thfs

history mqking evant and Aherefore, I shall vote fyes'

to reduce sales tax to give the people of Illïnofs relief.''' , x' '' Speaker Bluthardt: 'tThe Gentleman from Perry, Mr. Dunng''

ï Dunn: ''Thank youy Mr. Speaker. I would like to explain my

'yes' vote to some of the people t:at may not have

stopped to figure out vhat tax relfef really is. In the

58 districts. kf my multiplication fs right and I am

sure it would apply to every other disttict in the

State because we a1l have the samey thfs tax relief

on this measure, the 1/2 cent that some of my colleagues

have said doesn't amount te anythiag, you can't have a

1/2 cent sales tax. I say to youp for the people of

the State of Illinois, this is $15 per person. We were

talking about the covernor had a program that was going 1to allow everyone $10. If this is $160.000.000 tax reliefs

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this is tax relief is really a better deal than thei

one we were talking about before. Thfs is $15 per person 'I

and I am proud to vote êayef for almost $3.000,000 ft

will make for my dfstrict. Thank you.''

Speaker Bluthardt: HThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Mahar.''

Màhar: f'Mr. Speaker: Ladies and Gentlemea of the Mousey since

there is not much chance of me making the headlines

today, I am not going to explain my voteo''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''The Gentlevan from Lake, Mr. Deuster.''

Deuster: '1Mr. Speaker and Ladtes and Gentlemen of the Housep

I rise as one who J.haà devoted the last four years of

my life to one subject and that's transportation and

the last two years of my ltfe to one specific aspect

of that and that is trying to develop a logtcal and a

sound wr> to prov?.da the people of northeastern Illfnofs

with a good. new modern mass transit system and of courses

I think I share the feeling of all of us here on the

House floor that such an important subject for the people

of these six counties has been allowed to deteriorate

into such a nasty politicat battle and it has been

altowed because although, we live in an orderly secfetyj 'where political deals are necel'sary it has beJen the

nature of this polftical deal that disturbs everybody

and I want to direct these remarks to the suburban area

Representatives. I have heard some. of yout'speak'

already and I think anybody ïn the suburbs who is

voting green has got your heads in the sand because

I want to tell you what this political deal is. Now

. there is nothfny wrong with a Politfcal deal. I mean

we have got to j. udge them a11 on the merits and this

jy o 1 i t i c a l d e a 1 yo u c a n f in d b y j u s t l o ek f ng in t o th e

legisla tf on tha t is r fght on your d es ks . Thf s politf ca1

deal f or the Chicago suburbs invo lves a sales tax of

1/ 2: . Look into the llouse Bitl 19 58 . The second par t

of involves a gasoltne tax of 5: . Look into 1958

tha t is on your desk and it also fnvolved an unlimf ted

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1 7o. li (Iarking tax and tlte only thirtg I want you suburban area @

Representatives from uill, Lake, McHenty and Kane and

suburban Cook to think about is that this political

deal has sold you dovn the rfver. Mou have been sold' 1.

down the river and this is part of ft and if you.put 6l

a green lfght up thete and don't realize that you are j

x votfng for the whole package then you have been speading

five months down here and haven't learned as much as

' some of the other freshmen.n '

Speaker Bluthardt: ''W1l1 the Gentleman brlng his remarks

to a close? Your two minutes are upg''

Deuster: 'fI want to bring my remarks to a close and simply

' say thfsy that vhen you put your green light up t:ere

you are voting for part of a politieal deàl that ha: .

sold out the'subuzbs complctely and the fact that

t Representative Sangmeister from W111 county and a groving

; number of su%urban counties Representatives say ve

' n #, .want no part ot mass transit...

' jjSpeaker Bluthardt: Wogld you kfndly brfng your remarka to .

. a c :l. o s e ? ''

; Deuster: ''Yes, siry.is a reflection of the concern that al1

' of those in :he suburbs rkttow and I urge you a1l from /

' the subur%an ateas to thlnk ahout that green light an4

' ' switch it over to red.''

' Speaker Bluthardt; ''The Chafr recegnizes t:e Gentleman from

j ' cook, Mr. Daviso''

Davis; f'Mr. speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Houses

I am not votfng against Ry Governor. If you belfeve I

voted, just a minute, if you helieve 1 voted against

Nim I will bring my precint returns dovn here and shov

you if you belteve I voted against hlm. I am not votfng

' j? for %lair. I voted for the other 3i11 that went over? g) there. I am voting to keep my word and my word was .

. vhen I voted for staee fnceme tax, I am one of those

. fi' who voted for the state income tax wheb the Covernor 1

said he needed it and he was a Republican Governor andït1 i ..

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. I said to some of the peo'ple in my dtstrict when they . 1

shook their finger fn my face, some oföthe school teachers -

what are you doing down there voting for state fncome

tax and I said that was the only way ve qould give you '

a raise. We needed the money for the schools and I Ii

was told we needed the money but 1 will tell you thfs j'

jthat I was also told that wlth' a'state income tax we'

jmight he able to take some money off of foody we might

be able to reduce the sales tax and I promised a11 of. )''

you thisy here, in my district: that if that opportunity

ever presents its e1f to me to take 1/ 2 of 1Z of f ofthe sales taxy I am go ing to àvâfl myself of that

o per tunity and 1 am go ing to vo te f or f t . Novp theP

truth of the matter is and a11 of you' know that the

Senate voted for it: both Republicans and Democrats

over thure voted for it and 1 am tzot golzzg to make the

remark as I have heard here today that say that those

Democratic Senators over there voted for a pîony issue.

I have confidence in them. Maybe they made the same .

pledge I do. Now I am voting for thïs. I am also'

going to vote for the Governorts Bil1 and let me tell' you thfs, 1et me tell you thfs. I hope we send them

both down there because in the hands of the Governor is

' ' the power to veto and I don't think any of us Yy any' '

î h f ima tnatfon will belïeve that we can pass ''stretc o g

' .hefther one of these Bills over his vete. I want to send

them both dovn there and if we send thea b0th down there

. then which ever one be vetees, We are certain to Rive: . .

the people some tax relief. But 1 want to keep my

word and'gïve them soue tax relfef and thatês why I am

voting 'ayel-''

Speaker Bluthardt: 'fThe Gentleman from Wi11. Mr. Sangmeister.e'

Sangmeigter: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House, it''fs with some reluctance that I rise to explain

my vote which I do not often do but I feel compelled inh

this Particutar matter to do so beeause Representative i

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Deuster has mentfoaed my name and I'm.....I want to assure

him that my îead is not fn the sand as far as Wfll County

is eoncerned. But, I am rather surprfsed at what fs

happening here because a fellow Member of my District, the

Speaker of this Housey Bo: Blairy ;.....always been a

frfend of mfne and I conslder..v s . .a great person and after

today, have to wfth all due regard. eonslder him one of

the greatest politicians in t:e State of Illfnofs: but....

I do believe that time is'' runnfng out. '.-ilt!.s hard to

belfeve that since last February er March whea we granted

the CTA twelve and a half millione..o.that that money

has already been spent. It's further.hard for me to

belfeve that ny good friend Bob Blafr and Speaker of thfs

House is now. as the thittfeth rolls closery and that

mouey is ruuniug but has Dade a deat to resupport the CTA

and I must say, Bob to the detrfment of the people''ïn

W1l1 County. I have surveyed Will Couaty very closely

and I can tell you right now that the overwhelmïng senti-

ment is to stay out of the Regional Transportatfon Distrfct

We a11 knov what this Bill is to do. It fs tos it fs to .

fund it....I don't know how we can possibly go back to the. . . :

people in Will County and say to them: 'vedre gfvfng you

a half percent relief fn sales tax, when they'ql turn rfght

around and take ft out of thefr pocket aqaiu and say to

thew that wefre going to support a Reaional Trans. . .. . . .

Xiansportation Dfstrfctm whfch in vno vay Wi11 County vants.

I don't knov how he fs going to explafn'that but that will

be his probleo and I urge you to vote 'no' and save the

people in this six county district and particular Wf11

County.''

peaker Bluthyrdt: ''rhe Gentleman froa Dueage: Xr. Schneiderz..

Schneider...ohl.....Dougtas from Cook-- . .The Gentleman from

cook, Mr. Douglas.''

ouglas: ''Mr. Speaker, I have an advantage fn that whea I rani for reelectfon I made no promises of tax relief beeausei .

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! 73. jhi s issue and a11 issuess w'here politf cfans s tand : up and ft

' offer tax relief is absolutely phony. You take tt away: '

you put ft right back on as fast as you take lt away.

New York State today has a seven percent sales tax that'

you have to pay ff you waat to live in New York Stape. .

Illinois is not any better off. And, vhat I say ia regard' to this issue is that we are. for political reasonsy

making promises to the people which is utterly fooling

the people, the piddly amounts of money that we are

presumably saving them eacb year is going to deprive them

' of valuable services that they desperately needao. eAad' . ' as far as the resid.eothe tax is concerned for the support '

' . ' of mass trans/ortation in the Chicago area, I do n@t '' ' approve of this method. Ifm oa record publfclv as favor-

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Iing the use of other means of rafsfag fuads. Once this

passes if it does. aad I Eope the Governor has the. , . ' .

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courage to veto this 5i11 so that ft doesa't pass, but if

it does, we're first going to have to come back in the

six county area to raise taxes from a11 other sources.

. '.sources of money for mass transft should come from those

' who use thefr cars and not mass translt and I suggest'

v t ,that that s the only vay that ve re golng 'to be able to

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k jj a y ao,, . raise the money w'e need . llis fs a p ony w'ay ant ' . ' % ''

' ' ', ' 'happy to vote no . '

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Speaker Bluthardt: f'The Gentleman froa Lavrencey Mr. Cuaniagha .'#

C i haàtjbrdr. Speaker and Members of the Housep vhat a 'una ug

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' red Ietter day for a11 of the ûitizeus of lllinois/ The:.

' long oppressed tax 'pafersy thefr hopes and dreams of many' years is about to Ye realized. ke closed the beek of' hfstory en a dismal record of ever eontinuins taxes. We

open a page t/ a ne< era fn Which there will be qader-

standfng and mercy for t%e taxpayers. pTo-the dfstinguïshed$l v .Sponsor from Wfll County I say I m proud.. . .to vote vith

you in concurrence of tbfs Amendment that makes a good

' Bfll even better. I am anguisbed to see that a11 of the

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lfghts are not green. I'm not voting against my Governory

' I1m voting for my constituents. We've heard the words. .

' ' . . ,shamio.phonyy..trfckyi..iTmasqueradey.o..well 1et me tell .

. you on behalf of allnbdf the voters of the 54th Dfstrict. 1if thatês what this Bill is: we want more of those goodies

in our distrietao.obecause we recognize..ouwe recognfze

that ft's a saving. We're not bfg fn our dfstrfcty on

cadillacs and furs apd diamonds as tbey talk about. but

we find that evervoae of our citizens buvs Rroceries from

. y 'which the great bulk of the sales tax comes. Novp we ve ,'

such curious terms as.o..kepublfcan and'Democratrf.alliancey

' Blair and Daley alliancey'unholy alliancex I say it's more . ',.'

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of a grand'alliaace to bring vtax relief to the p'eqple in '

. the State of llltnels.. I publicly salute thè.:Assistant '

Mfnority'teader and retract any unkind thoughts I ever'' '

had about him. He has the leadership and t%e courage ... 7 '

. .. . .to stand up to what he believes.wo.Aad 1 want to pledg ..

, i. to you.....I want to pledge to you as I go bac to my# 'District and tell these people that I brought em relief .

I also had some help from the inspired Sponsorship of thfs ' ''

leadershfp from Mayorc'Raichard J. Daleyy from Sheay and

from a bipartisàn..o..effort and from a hundred others '1 '

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' of you who had the courage.owethe moral courage to put ' '

your 'aye' vote behind your campaign oratory. Thaak youo''' . . . . .. .'

Speaker Bluthardt: The Gentleman from.w.opthe Gentleman o

' ' ''from ....em......'.em.....ah.....Bureaup Mr. Barryvê' ' ',

' . :1 ' ' 'Barry: Mr. Speaker an2 Ladies and Gentlemen of the Houses

just a mfnute of your time...v.to fndfcate that I too am1 . -' .

k. 1 voting to nonconcur and I vi11 also fa my own tittle way

try to recommend that if this Bill does get to the .

: Governor in thfs form that he veto ft because I...as II

@ inatcated before, would have been much better if ve sent 11) ft back on a nonconcurrence motfon and 1et the ....1et ', 11

the senate recede from tbeir Amendment and perhaps go toi I! .

Conference Committee and do somethfng that ts worth while.l . .

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Now, I thfnk this is important to know for al1 of us thatt.v rumor has ft . . ..rumor has kt and I get lt on pretty dog-

!gone good authority, that there vas an opp

ortunity to )%

avoid tbis confrontation this pornfngx o .. .but the factt

' is that the Republican Leadership and the Seaate vouldns t.k .

'. go along. Nowy here we area hollerfng at each other: .(

' %ack and forth everything sort of flsticuffs ané nameJ' . '

.r calling and it could have been avofded, if the Republfcan: ?k

a Leadership in the Senate had listened to Bob Blair and. 'Mayor Daley aad Covernor kalkery but ft didn't happeay '

f '' . so here ke are with a confrontation that wonet quft. I#m, zoing to help Clyde Choate do what I ûan to do a little .

, ,, damage on every Senyte 3ill 'that I see from now on in '

thfs Session.o. wand if >ou don't believe tbat you Just 'mark my activfty wfth these boxes I have in front of me.I want yo say one other thln: for those of you that havebeen estimating what thfs great savings fs. It's noL '

' flfteen dollars per person, as someone safdy I thluk Mr. .

Dunn said on the other.side of the atsle. Accordina tot:e Internal Revenue Servicey optional Sales Tax Table fer

. the f av.ity of If ive , i *: # s twe'n zy.. thu'lzet tiollar s . By t:le . ' '

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saxe tokeny it showed kalker's tax savfngs proposal is. fifty doltars per family

. So, you know, let's not kfd

each other. lust take a look'.at what tbe charts say that

' are aûcurate produced by the Internal Revenue Service....'Mr. Speakery Ifve got tvo pore comments...mone of them isthat I want a verification

m I want a call of the absentees,

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al1 of us must stand up on thif issue. .* don't think

. that anybody would fault me for that. I uant to be rec-

ogniaed for that before ve closey and thereafter I wouldlfke to be recognized forn'a motlon to recess for enough

1 time for some of us to go have lunch and the rest of us

to go vomit.'''

tSpeaker Bluthardt: HRave a11 voted who wishs Take the record. 1The Jentleman from Lakew e . a ehaventt you already spoken

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v. 1 i #' . IMa tij evic h: . ; ...e xp a n my vo t e.

Speaker Bluthardt: #îA11 rigbt. if you haven't explained it

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Matfjevfch: ONot only myselfy others on the floor o..and under

the rules....f'

Speaker Bluthardt: HSpeak for yourself. e. o33

Matijevich: '% ...they have a rfght to explafn thefr vote and

you know ft. Now, I don't Iike to take the tfme of the

House at a11...''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Excuse me, woutd you turn off. clt's .

against the House Rules to have Iights on duriag explan-

ation of votea..All right, nowp Mr. Matijevichw'e '

Matijevich: 'RMr. Speaker and Members of the House I realfze

that t%e dewnstate Democrats are a nonentity fn thfs iody.

Butp let me remind yop that some years agox' and Mr. Speake

yeu came down here vit: me that::the downstate Democrats. :

saved the Democratfc Party from ftselfa the Chlcago

Democratss because everybody knew Mayor Daley and Governor

Ogilvie had agreed to a four percent .o.four percent

corporatfon in individual income tax...aand if it veren't

for the disruption of the downsrate Democrats. thates

,what the pepple of the State of Illinois would have been' . 1.stuck with right today. Soy thfs fsn't the ffrst tfme

that the downstate Democrats and the suYurban Democrats

are going to help to again belp the taxpayers fn the State

11f is Now letbwe say and I've said it before ' .of I no . , . .

this is the tîird day that thfs Bfll ls consfdereds the

ffrst day Clyde Choate was the vhfpping boy. 1:e second

day it was Jerry Shea. And. nova today ft ïs Senator

Harris. That ought to tell you qooethlng ahout this. Nov.

w%at's going to happen aud belleve me the other 'Bflls are

golng to coze out, but tbe only reason that they are goipg

to come out is weAre raistng hell about ït. The other

Bill would have never come out ff ft weren't for the hell

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we orfgfnated. Speaker Blair wouldn't bave even

negotiated that partlcular Bi11 but it's going to come

out aad I say to tbe downstate Democrats and the suburban

Democrats ....continue to be'wrestless. ..continue to be

restive In this General Assembly because that's the only

way it's gofng to come about. 0ur Leadership on both

sides of the aisle wouldaît have had ït come about.'d l'r

Neither would they bf had the reductfon fn the State

Income Tax come about. 'We forced ft upon them . Coatinue

to force ft upon them and lt will come about. Andy .

otherwise Ladies an'd Gentlemen of the House. you loose

our own indiviiual integrity as Members . Porce it upony

them and you can do it.l'

Speaker Bluthardt: HThank you. For what purpose does the

Gentleman from Sangamony Mr. Gibbs vfsh to be recpgnfzed?''

Gfbbs, '''How am I votede''

Speaker Bluthardt: HHow fs Mr. Cfbbs recorded?u

Clerk Belcke: HThe Gentleman is *ecorded as not votfhg.''

Gibbs: nVote me 'aye? Mr. speakerve'

Speaker Bluthardt: HMr.' Gibbs votes 'ayef.;. . . oThe Chair

recognl z es the Centlemqn f rom . . .'< .v'llfarct ï.s ft â1? Vane

County, kr. Schoeberleing''. ), ' . ..

schoebertetai ''Ah.....Mr. Speaker and Ladies and centlemen of

the House. approximately three and a balf years >go there'

b it was eilled the Govexnorl.s Bill. .was a Bill up erey'! . ' 1

for a State Income Tax. At that tfme I had been called

.'Jown to éhe office not once.o..twice..o e othrèe :ut four

tines and each tfme I had the gutts to sayy 'no'. I am

>ot voctng for thks Bill. Andy I dtdngt vote for the

3f11. Nefther did my counterpartp John Priedland at the

ttme, who vas down here wfth me a couple tfmes. Now, that.

3f11 took about two hours on thls floor to passo w oànd, I

voted no. Novs here wedve got a Bi11 that caused apger

last night and caused.....ahp.obreakups. We've been dotng

thïs thing now for seven or efght hours and still we're I

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, talkfng on ft. The reason I'm talkfng on it is I haver . ''

made no deals and I hate sand so my head hasn't beeu in(: '. 1t:

i the sand....as some claim. My head is up and above board. j;ks. ' .Andy that s the way ft fs gofng to stay

. And, I am voting1: . .b '

f hfs particular Bi11 just because I voted 'no' on' aye on t$

the othertone. If I can go back and say I'm gofng to' save)f, you a half cent, I'm going to save a half cent

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nothing to do with Nass Transportatfony as far as 1'm .i? '

concernedy so therefore lf the Speaker will permit me to, I would like to vote.. . wvote 'aye' on this pattlcular

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speayer Bluthardt: f'Record tbe Gentleman as votfpg 'aye'. .

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' HcGrev: ''Thank yous Mr. speaker, Ifd lfke to explaln my vote.

. T have not spoken on this fssue. I've tried to listen '

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and reach a real conclusioa. I......my only conclusfon. is, I would like to congratulate the Members of the Eouse

of Representatives on t%e biggest ffasèo. . on we have thus

' far pulled. We are talkfng about tax relief. it gives us '

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somethfng to do, it sells a 1ot of nevspaperss and ft make

tbe people back home thlnk they are gettfp: socethipg. .

. 1' ' Buts let's really stop and'mhink what weVre doing. ' The' '

j, State Budget is seven and a half blllion dollarsy w e re

'talking about approximately one bne hundred and fiftieth

' of that kncome. Speaker Blatrfs proposal would provfde

twenty three dollars of tax relief for a family of feur: .'and an income of ten thousand. Thfs fs fifty cents a

week. When they are paying thousands of dollarsy now,

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' who are they trytng to ktd? Are we going home and say: '

. . wefve done a great thfng? I thiak this proposal is

ludtcrous. 1 don't think that we#re really going to get

fn any meaningful tax reduction and I think tbat to trytl t

o convtnoe t:e people bacu home tbat we are ls somewhat) .! of a misnomero . p . .'lq 'i Speaker Bluthardt: ''May we have a lirtle order oo.gplease?i

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'roceed, Mr. McGrew.''

McGrew: ''I think that the vhole propositfon fs very ridfculous

and I thfnk that this is probably the most absurd of

all tax relfefs and record me as 'nof.''

Speaker Bluthardt: NRecord the Gentleman as 'nod....and the

Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Ewell.''

Ewell: nMr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housep I

have anqufshed long and lopd bver this Bill and I've

toésed ft over fn my own mind many tfmes. I should like. L

to say that ffrst of a11 if were the 89th vote would. j . . . .have voted 'aye . .,1 think that thfs Bfl1 has rfpped

our patty asundér'; 1 think that the misgivfngs wfll be

wfde spread a'nd felt ia a very grievous manner. I think

that ve are ignorfng that our plight fs not caused by

our Ieadershipy whether'we talk about the Democratic

. sfde or the Republican side, but has'been caused by the

State Senate as it has been for every year since havetbeen here. I suggest we are lookfug at the wropg enemy.

We have passed 3i11 after Billy good Legislatfon. oaty

see it stiflédlandlstymied by the State Senàte. I

.suggest to you tiac thts House h&s a;7 'uusiness to gat or.

wfth. We have only Senate business to proeeed with. I

suggest that only when ve arïse and start throwih: out

and throwing back Senate Bills in vholesale numbers wfll

expect to have a voice in State Government. Mr.we ever

Speaker: I ask to be recorded as 'presentlk''

Speaker Bluthardtr MThe Gentleman wfll be recorded as 'lpresent .

ànd t:e Gentleman from Maeon. Mr. Alsup.f'

Alsup: f'Mr. Speakery record me as votiug Vne?.#'

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Record àlsup .-.'no'. The Gentleman frcm

Kan,. Mr. Hil1.H

Ei11: MThank you, Xr. Speakers tadies and Gentlemen of the

House-...tho Juggernaut has taken effect and those people

from the other side that believe for a moment that we're

not gofng to get that half cent fncrease in our area of .

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' Kanex Dupagey Willy Lake and NcHenry are very well mis-

taken. Because you can be well assured thete were 102

votes up there and you people that are nafve eaoughi'to. l

believe that this same grouping that put this Bill through IIcannot put that five cent sales tax on you are very much

mistaken. I've been here for qufte some tfme, Ifc not

an experta but I have seen this happen again and agaïn and

agafn. I'd like to point out to the çentleman that safd '. . N)that he voted agatnst the 'Income Tax

, but I want to also

i ' h t with an allfance of some of the 'po nt out to em t a

. j ' u t sueooe taxsame people involved fn thi , we have t a' today. Andp this is what's going .to happen fn the area

. :t*at I represent, weAre going to loose that decrease of

. a half a eent and 1 would appxeûiate those people tbat

have been smiling today wfïl turn arouad and cry lust a ' '' little next'week when ft happens to 'em. Thank you.''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Qhe Genttemaa from Cooky Mr. Caldwell.f'

, Caldwell: ê'Thank you, Mr. speaker. I want to explain very

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qbriefly my 'no' vote.. I have attempted to follov a11 of

the negotiations that 1ed up to this situatlon. I veted

for the Blalr Bï1l when it left the Eouse and vent over '

lto the Senlte and it was changed fn the Senate and vith

.''.. . .in its present form it's not zhe same Bf11 and I'm

! .convinced that thfs is notqtax relfef, I'm convlnced that

it was a vehicle for negotiattons: perhaps for some other

' Leqfslatfon. I have no quarelq. with vhat happens. We#ll

%ave to waît and see and when this Session is over and'vben the Governor gets through sfgnfng Bflls. Buts I

' belfeve that I have kept the faith 'wftb the people vho

èlected me and disa...and dem:astrated my integrity by' followtng the dictates of common sense. I was glad to

vote 'nof-f' 11speaker Bluthardt: ''Have a11 voted who wlsh? Have a11 votcd jIwho wished? Take the record. 0n thfs motfon there are1

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the request has been made by Representatïve Barry to poll

. the absentees. So, the Clerk will poll the absentees.f'

IClerk Selcke: 'îArrigo, Capuziy Giorgi, Granata, R. Hollowayy..'l ', ,, It speaker Bluthardt: Mr

. Holloway is present. 1. !Clerk Selcke: ''Keller, Lundy, Manny Martin, McAulïffep McAvoyy

Sevefk, Springer. Telcser. Wally B. B. Wolfe.''

S eaker Bluthardt t 'eMr . Barry has requested a ver if tzation9of the affirmatfve vote. For what purpose does the

Gentleman from Winnebago wish to be recognizedy Mr.' Gior f *1 *' ' ' 'g .

Giorgi: HMr. Speaker, I want thetrecord to shov I vas prèsent'

. and that there 'was a Roll Call and that I was still presen

and there is no fndïcation how I voted.''

' Speaker Bluthardt: ''The record will fndicate that Mr. Giorgi

. voted preseat . . .

Clerk Selcke; ' ''Did he.......did he....0h! I thopght he ..

didn't want to vote. He said he didn't want any indicatio

. '' : : ' ' .on 'hov he voted... . . . ' . .

Speaker Bluthardt: Was.....was that a request to be .oolisted' . . . .

' as votlng presept or just to show that y@u were Present' d OD Votfng î? ' ' ' ' ' 'an n . .

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Giorgi: 11 was fn the Cbamber; that I haven't mfssed a Session

. in about eight years and I vas in the Chamber thropgbout

' the entïre debatep that you called the Roll and I was

still in the Chambers and there is ne'indicational' '

Speaker Bluthardt: 'eThe'record will show that the Gentleman '.

vas not voting.t.'....Yes, the centlemaa from Cooky Mr. '. . '

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Lemke : 'lMow am I recorded ? 1. . .' '

Speaker Bluthardt: ''How 'is Mr. Lemke recorded?''

clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman ts recordsd as votlng 'aye'.

gpeaker Bluthardts ''The Gentleman from Bureaus Mr. loby Barry .''

1. Barry: ''The starting count ls 105. 53 and 3. Is that correet?p

i clerk selckb: ''Correct. '';

Speaker Bluthardt: ''A11 right: the Clerk will proceed wtth

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the verificatlon of t:e Afflrmative Roll Ca11.''

Clerk Selcke: ''Anderson, Arnells Barnes, Beattyy Berman:

Bluthardt: Borchers, Brandt, Campbelly Capperellfy Cartery

Catania, Clabaugh, Colltns: Coxy Cunningham, Davis, Day:

Deaversy Diprima, Duffy Ralph Dunny R. L. Dunnea Dyery

Ebbesen, Epton, Farleys Fary, Garmisa, Geo-Kariss Gibbs,

Giglio, Griesheimer, Grotberg, Hanahany Harpstrites

Hirsèhfeld, Ron Hoffman, D. Houlihan, Hudson. Hunsickery

Huskey, Emil Jones, Dave Jones, Jucketts Kellyy Kempinersy

Kentp Klosak, Kosfnski, Kozubowskf. Kriegsmaap Kucharski,

Lafleur, Lauers Laurino: Lechowiczs Leinenweber, Lemke:

Leonp Macdonald, Madïganp Mahar: Maragos, Mccormfcky

McLendon. McMasterp Mcpartlin. Merlop Kenny Millerp 1om1 .Millery Murphyy Nardulliy Neffy North, Palmerm Pappasy

Patrick, Petersy Polk, Portery Randolphy Rigneyy Roses Rya p

Schoeberlein: Shea, Timothy Simmss Ike Simsy Skinnery

Soderstrom, Stiehl, Taylor, lervichs Thompsony Tettenm

' Tuerk. waddell. willtam ualsu, walters, .washbur.. uzzliâma

J. J. Wolf, Yourell, Mr. Speaker.''

speaker Bluthardt: ''Are there questions of the Affirmative

Roll Ca1l?...Mr. Barry....Are you ready'to proceedy Mr.

Barry? Orp are .there no questionsz'g

Barr#: ''Yes, sir.w.and 1:11 do it as quickly as I can. Andy

then I'd like to be recognized for that motion to recess

if the Leadershfp agrees. Ah....Rose?''

Speaker Bluthardt: HYeahw...we're dealing with theo.oah..

verification of tie Affirmative Ro11....er Rol1...t''.:

Barry: ''Mr Rose...'' .

Speaker Blutbardt: PIs Mr. Rose in...ab...ah...in the Housel

Hew is Mr. Rose recerded?''

Clerk Selcke: Hlhe Gentleman is recorded as vottng Iaye'.''

Speaker Bluthardt: HTake him off the Ro11.''

Barry: ''Make a record of that will you p1ease....Ah.....

J. J. Wolfo''

speaker Bluthardt: J. Wolf. don't see Mr. J. J. Wolfy

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is he back tbere? How fs Mr. Wolf recordedr'

Clerk Selcke: ''The Centleman is recorded as voting 'aye'.l'

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Take him off the Ro11.'e '

Barry: ''Ms catanfa?'' '

Speaker Bluthardt: HMs. Catania is fn her seat.. .'' .

,A 1, ' . . .Barry: Hr. Deavers? '

Speaker Bluthardt: HMr. Deavers is standfng behind his seat.''

Barry: ''I see him. Ah. . .R. L. Dunne? f'' .. )Speaker Bluthardt: ''M

r. R. L.' Dunne, he fs at the rear of the ..T 1 . ' ''

, . :Rall on vour sideo'' . .

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, ' Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. Wolf is back. put him back on the Roll H .. J ' '

.Barryr ''Ralph Duna there.... .I see him.. Ron Hoffman?'' .

' Speaker Bluthardt: ''Ron Hoffman ...he#s fn them . . whe's at .

,the back of the Hall.k.staadilg up in the baek. . . .hr. Rose: . , ' ',

$. is backs put him back on the Ro1l.'' '

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Barry: #'Mr. Juckett, I canft see through the books.'' '

Speàker Bluthardt: ''How is Mr. Juckett recorded?'' .r ' . .

>' Clerk Selcke: ''The.. ..the Gentleman..a.luckett.aois..' ''

Speaker Bluthardtt HMr. Juckett iso. .o is..eorecorded as notff . '. -voting..... . .

. Clerk Selcke: f'No he is recorded as votfng.'' à

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. ' . ,d ,v . ' . ' 'Speaker Blutahrdt: How did he vote. ,

Clerk Selcke:: ''The Gentleman is recorded as votfng îaye'o''

Speaker Bluthardt: 'tA11 right. Well, then leave him on the

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'IM Gibb s ' '# '. . d . ' ' 'a r r y : r . . . . . . . . ' . '

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. Gibbs....How is Mro'cibbs recordèd?''

lerk Selcke: ''The Geùtleman is recerded as voting Paye'z'

peaker Bluthardt: ''Take hïm off the Rol1.''f . ,

arryz HMr. Grfesheimer7 . . .1 see h1m there now. Forget it

b p1ease.....Mr. Ranahan fs back.''1 '

lerk selcke: ''Yeahof'

arryt #'Mr. Rarvstrtte I can't see. . . yever.nj . ,lerk Selcke: ''He fs there. ''

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Barry: HIs he there?'' ' '

Speaker Bluthardt: HMr. Harpstrite is therey fn his seat.o.er

in somebodies seat...n '

Barry: 'îls that Mr. Birschfeld in his seat?'' '

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. whom?..m.v .'.Hirschfeld.s'

Barry: '1Mr. Hirschfeld.''

Speaker Bluthardt: nHe is ïn his seat.'' '

Barry: ''Mr. Hudson was off the Floor at the tfme I leokeds'' ,

Speaker Bluthardt: HMr. nudson .. .is...fs at hfs deska''

Barry: ''Mr. Kellyb''. , ' .

Speaker Bluthard t : ''Mr . Kelly f s in'. llf s s ea t .'# ' ' ' . . '1 '.

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Barry: 'Mr. Terzich?'î ' . '' è . . ' ''

S eaker Bluthardt : ''Mr 'rerzic.h ts 'tn his seat .'' . ' ' ''P . . .

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Barry: ''Mr. capparell; is with him T seeo''

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Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. Capparelli fs in hfs seata '' .

Barr : 'êLechowf.c z is here Mr Leon . . . .#' ' ' ' ' ' .y . .

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. Leon is in his seat.'' . , .

Barry: '#Ah..Mr. Madigan was off the floor, is he back?'' ':

Speaker Bluthardt: HMr. Madfgan is fn the mfddle of vthe aisle.. . . '

, .Barry: ''Mr. Palmer..''

Sp eaker Bltttlkat dt : I'K'r . zalmer ia in t'kte aisle . :1 ' ' .

:1 '' ' ' ' ' ' ' .Barry; Zr. Pappas? . ' ' . '

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Speaker Bluthardt: 'eMr. Fappasm Mr. Pappas fs in hïs seat.f'

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Sp eaker Bl u thard t : ' '1Mr . Wa lt er s ? :t s byJ .hfs sea t . ê' ' '. . :#' ' #v .

' '.Barry: There he ïs...Mr. McLendon: ks he herel .

S k B1 thard t : ' 'RMr Mctendon ' is s tand 5.ag here . '' . ' ''P ea e r u .

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Barry: ''Mr. Mer1o?... .Is Merlooooothat doesn't look llke Merlo 'f'

S eaker Bluthard t : '$Mr Merlo f s stand ing here oc the s ide . fê ''P .

Barry: ''0h!.....Some lfttle guy fn your seat there. Mr.

Diprfma.''

speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. Diprima is in his seat. .. .Mr. Gibbs is

back on the floor, put him back on tbe Ro11.'f

Barry: ''Mr. Patrfckr'

Speaker Bluthardt: MMr. Patricko..m.ls Mr. Patrick hereR. .. .

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There he is fn the middle of the afsle.''

Barry: ''Mr. Rudolph....'' .

' Speaker Bluthardtt 91 ah . o. .kudolphRyqzt'

Barry: ''Randolph.v.-l'm sorry. . . .Ha...Ha..H

Speaker Blutbardt: HWe tbought you were talking abott

' i d ers ....Mr. Randolph.'' V . .

're n e .

ff . ' vv 'Barry: I m having trouble with my helpers. .

Speaker Bluthardt: HIs Mr. Randolph on the-floor?. e o . .There

. l .he is in the back. on your sideeîf

. Barry: ''Okay, nice to see you Paul. . .. . .Ah...Mr. Thompsons ''

R L Thom son '' ' ' . . ' ''. . , . . . p . . . . .

Speaker Bluthardti MMr R Mr Thompsoa.'ê ' ' '

. . . . . . . .

.. Barry: ''Is herhere...pl see him. Mr. Waddell-'? . .'

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Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr Waddello. afs Xr. Waddell here? Mr. ,

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'z : . .Waddell in *he r ear y ye s . '# . ' '. . . .'

Barry: l'Buz Yourell is here. Dick Carter is here. 'Mr. Beatty ''

. is....Mr. Beatty here?....n . ' '

. . 1. ' ; . '. ' Speaker Bluthardt: HIs Mr. Beatty here? Yesy he fs in hfs seat.î'

. . ' ' . . ''

v, v. ' ' :Barryz Mow about Babe McAvoyy is Babe here?

clerk Selcke: f'Not votfng.'' . '

Speaker Bluthardt: fïMr. McAvoy is recorded as not voting. . . . .'' '

. 4*. t ' ' . . '' z c ' If 1, : . . ' . ' L 'Jp% Barry: Mr. McMaster?':- ' 1 , . : .' Clerk Selcke: ''There he is.'' ' '

l . ; ' .

. Speaker Bluthardt: f'Mr. McMaster fs over on the left side hereo''

11 :1 . . . ' ' ' ' 'Barry: Mr. Mahar? .

' Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. Mahar.- . oin his seato'' . .. '

)Ba/ry : ''Mr . Iuerlt? '.' . . .1 d idn ' t s ee . '' . .. . ' :

Speaker Bluthardt) %îMr. Pred 1uerk?.....0n the leftv'' ' '

Barry: Northz .

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. Pat North fs inlphfs seat.''

Barry: f'And.v.gMr.Anderson .'' . 2

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Mr. Anderson is in hfs seatk'''

Barry: DOne more, Mr. Mahar?'' .

Speaker Bluthardt: HMr. Mahar is in hïso..ohe fs right there !'

jizt h1s seat .'' '

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Barry: ''That's it. thank you.''

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Further questions?''

Clerk Selcke: HWho is the third 'present'?....o-R. Holloway...

Oh yeah.....''*

Speaker Bluthardtl ''AII right, on this motion, there are 105

'ayes' 53 lnays' ''present'. For what purpose does

the Gentleman fron Cooky Mr. Holloway....wfsh to be

recognizedzl'

uu y reeorded?''Holloway: om am

Speaker Bluthardt: ''How islhe recorded?n'

' ,4 ' v , 1,Clerk Selcke: . The Centleman is recorded as voting present .

Speaker nluthardt: ''Change Mr. Holloway's vote from 'aye' to

from 'present' to 9aye'.....For what purpose does

the Gentleman from Bureau wish to be recogaized? ..Mr.

Barry.''

Barry: ''My net result indicated a reductioa of one from the

affirmative k'....on1y....from l05 to l04.....you aanounced

105.....vou1d the Clerk make it clear to me please?''

clerkt'selcke: ''Who d1d you cut offk..Toby?.'w.-You asked.....'

vjyou took Rose off and he came back.....

Speaker Bluthardt: HCibbs was taken off and he came back.''; t ' ,

Clerk Selcke: HYou took J. Wolf off and he came back.''

Barry: I m sorrys I missed Mr. Wolf coming back.

, Clerk S el cke : ''Yeah . . . . . 1; w . . no . . . no . . . . ''

Speaker Bluthardt: nFor wbat purpose does the Gentleman from

' Bureau wish to be recognized?'' '

Barry: ''Just to make it perfectly clear I'm not interested in

the negatfve vote.l' '

Speaker Bluthardt: ''You dpn't wishi:to bave a Roll Call of the

negative voter'

Barry: ''NOS Sir......No. Sfr.îî

Speàker Bluthardt: ''A11 right, wfth leave of the House we

voa't take t%e Roll Call of the negative vote. Per vhat

purpose does the Gentleman frem Cook: Mr. Mann wish to

be recognized?e'Ij '

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Mann: ''Mr. Speaker, first I want to know how I am recorded.f'

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Clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as not vokingo/

Mann: ''And secondly I want to have a chance to explain my

Speaker Bluthardtz ''All right, brieflyv Mr. Mann. I think

it is out of order but briefly, go aheado''

Mann: ''Mr. Speaker and Members of the Housee since I have

been a Member of the Legislature here in Springfield

I have worked diligently toward a reduction in the

sales tax. I don't know whekher or nok the plan proposed '

b S eaker Blair is the best plan or not . I Rnow it ''y p

. ' is one plan. The Governor will offer another plan and

.' . .. . . . .' .

' ' I will vote for both plans but I do nok think that we '

' /can emerge from this legislative session without taking

' a position on one plan or another. I think we must .

' at least be assured of the fact that we will have one

plan and therefore I wank to be recorded as voting 'aye'w/

Speaker Bluthardt: ''Record the Gentleman as 'aye' and on this

motion there are 1O7 'ayes'r 53 gnays' 3 voting 'present:

and the House does concur in Senate Amendment 42 to

. House Bill 634. That should be 2 'present'e not 3.

. - Mr. Mann chakhled from 'Dresent' to 'aye'. For what

i '.purpose does the Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Murphyy wish

ê' to be recognized?'' .1 , '. Murphy: ''Mr. Speaker, might I ask for leave of the House for '

l an hour for lunch until 4:157'' .

. . Speaker Bluthardt: ''Al1 righk, the Gentleman has asked leave

il 4:15 All in favor of that motion will ' 'to recess unt .

' indicate by saying 'aye', contrary and we are now in

recess until 4:1s.''

speaker Millerz ''We will wait just two or three minutes

till some of the Members make it here from their offices,

' not any longer than that so if any of them, any one of

them hearing my voice in another building, we are going

to start in within two or three minutes. A1l riqht,

while we are waiting here for some of the Membership to

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arrive, we have some Committee repbrts so the clerk w111

read Comdittee reports.'' ' ' .

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Clerk Selcke: ''Mr. Harpstrite f rom Agriculture and Natural '

Resources ko which Senate Bill 238 was referred rqports . '

the same back with the reeommendation the Bill do not

'

pass. Mr. Harpstrite from Agriculture and Natural .

f.

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'

Resources to which Senate Biils 68, 645, 828: 33: 932,. :

and 995 were referred reports the same baek with the '

recommendation that the Bills do pass. Mr. Harpstrite L. J

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fron AgriculEkre and Naturai Resources to khich Senate 'Bills 575, 777, 76# and 1177 were referred reporks the . .

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same back with tie recnmmendation that the Bills do ' .' ,

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1 r,pass. Mr. Harpstrite from Agriculture and Natural . . s.-'Resources to which Senate Bllls 689,and 1082 were ' .

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referred reports the same back with the recommendation .u '

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that the Dills do pass. Mr. Harpstrite from Agriculture ' 'V.'

and NaturRl Resources to Which Senate Bill 855 was .'

referred reports the same back with the recommendation '

that the Bill do not pass. Mr. Harpstrite from Agricultur

7 and tolrwhidh House kesolution 394 was referred reports '

:

the same back with the reeommendation that the .

Resolution be adopted. Mr. Washburn from Committee on 'I .

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Appropriations to which House Bill 1773 waa reférred ' .'

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reports the same back with the recommendation that the .'

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Bi1l do pass. Mr. Washburn Yrom Appropriations to which '

House Bills l940tahd 1994 were referred reports the . k 7

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same back with Amendments thereto with the recommendation ''

that the Amendmenis be adopted and the Bills as'amended' io pass. Mr. Washburn from Appropriakions ko which '

' senate Bills 183, 184, 185, 186, 290, 371 and 906 were

referred reports the same back with the recommendation p

that the Bills do pass. Mr. Washburn from Approprlations

1'

to which Senate Bills 459. 460, 488, 703, 70Se 832, 909.' j

1162 and 1183 were referred reports the same back withI

'

Yhe recommendation Yha: EhP Biils dO PRSS. Mr. Mcxaster Jies and Townships to which Housê Bill 1296

1.

. from Counk

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8 9 . . ( I- . j k .. was referred reports the same back with Amendments'

thereto with the recommehdation that the Amendments be:

adopted and the Bill as amended do pass. Mr. McMaster

from Counties and Townships to which Senate Bill 236was referred reports the same back with Amend

ments 'thereto with the recommendation that the Amendmentsbe adopted and the Bill as amended do p

ass. Mr. McMasterlfrom Counties and Townships to which senate Bill 669was referred reports the same back with th

e recommendationtéat the Bill do not pass

. Mr. McMa/ter from Counties '

and Townships to which Senate Bill 769 was referred ''

reports the same back wikh the reconmendationkthat the ') ' . . 'Bill do pass. Mr. McMaster from Counties and Townships

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to which Senate Bill 1012 was referred reports the ' ',back with the recommendation that the Bill do pass. ' 'Samei

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Mr. Rose from Judiciary I to which Senate Bills 406, ''. 466, 605, 606, 793 and 1133 were referred reports the .

? . same back with the recommendation that the Bills do .

pass. Mr. Rose from Judiciary I to which Senate Bill '

i 1007 was referred reports the same back with AMendmentsthereto with the recommenation that the Amendments be

i ado#ted and the B,i.l.1 a.s anended do pass . '' .

' Speaker Mill er; 'fAll right, we might just a well qet out ' :''''''., of the way one Agreed Resolution

, take care of that '. ' . this time. Mr. Clerk. >C Clerk Selcke: ''House Resolution 456

, Pietce et al.'1 .

Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. William Walàh .

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with respect to Agreed Resolution.n

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WalEh: ''Yeah, Mr. Speaker and radies and Gentlemen of theHouse: House Resolution 456 sponsored by RepresentativePierce and many other Sponsors including th

e chairmanof the House Revenue Commiktee

, Representative Randolph,4 asks that the House Revenue Committee study the)

financial structure of the public library system in1 order that the local library system may be restored to', financial stability and Mr

. Bpeaker. I move the adoption? uglzkyxu..k . ''%A 'e's G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Y

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n. .,yxhe Bill as amended do pass. Mr. McMaster I

1.: ..$4 p'l nf; f ; ? .i,iJm'- and Townstips to which Senate Bill 236. .i lu ctatzreo----'ifv-) / ' V

L ', ygw. rreporks the same back with Amendments' 1.' t.J f fzf'uj. 4 ;J

'r . .çZ.e rec D u dation Nhat ihe Amendmenks' u, 1::4 >?.)- *C:SC - -1 / / t J /! vypl'' the Bill as anended do pass. Mr. McMas*or?'l f )f) P-CY '$.; I ' l '' lf '

. s,'xoA lmd Townsylps to which Senate Bill 669J? CCIt.I f5. .r' ) //l /

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x. zfeports the same back wïth the recommendationk t.- a f tar <-'! /' ? i'Nx....wwp not pass. Mr. McMaster from Countiesl ; $ 'e 1 ! f3 f'''S1 l b'

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. . Mr zoack wj.t)j tjye recorcmanaakion':that the.' ' . ç t:s Ehe ' '' '. fJ).?F'1 .f uer McMaster''from counties and Townships

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li >Sl1 10lg was reflrred reports'the ,

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,. , k ..NS:y ,w+m recnmmendation that :he Bill do pass.; bac. I i j. l I $. ' . . ' .!'' ,z' - : ciary .r to which Senate Bills 406a 'ffM ' ..W

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.3 ' gs#xz rec ommendation tha t the Bil ls dojlzak k#'itYJ. .i-,#î$4# ' . .

'' fr= Judiciary I to which S enate Bil 1. pnmgç. . yj , N'.r .1. t k ?i .$. swd

. reports the same back with Am' endments '' '1 WAY XCZWXl t'y - ' .Stwtyjj gg/p meoommenation ihat khe Amangmauys yaj/lZ

''(- h''î .. ! . . ip-iJ..'l as anended do pass . N. çod and %?#@f

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walshc ; uvn- on 456 spongored by Representative%X<2* XAXXWMt.ï 'Jk i: a '

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of House Resolution 456.:3

Speaker Miller; ''The Gentleman moves the adoption of House

Resolution 456. The question is on the adoption'of

this Resolution. A1l those in favor say 'aye', opposed

'nay', the 'ayesg have it and the ResoluEion is adopted .

Now, Ladies and Gentlemen, we are going to Senate Bills,

Third Reading and we will use the priority of call list

that's on your calendar and we will request that the .

Clerk call these Bills inNlaccordance with that priorityo''

j . 'Clerk Selcke: 'Senate Bill 121, Collins, not here. Senate

Bill 298, Collins, nok here. senate Bill 358, Deuster,

an Act relating to the sanitary control of public .

swlmming pools and so forth, Third Reading of the Bi1l.''

speaker Miller: DThe Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Deuster.''

,

Delzster: ''Yes ) thi s Bila-. was krought up earlier and there '

was some question raised on the other side of the aisle

concerning one Amendment and I thought they had an

opportunity to look it over. I am not sure whether:

there was to be one other Amendment.prepared and I am'

, not sure if there is a spokesman on the other side nof

the aisle to comment on that and if not, maybe we. J ,oubht ,to kake that out of the record. Anyone over

there know? Actually, I mighk say if khere are any .,

interested Member: on the floor. there were three subjects

that were brought up on Third Reading a day or so ago.

One of them was whether or...''

Speaker Miller: ''We1l, Mr. Deuster, may the Chair make this

suggestion. If there is some problem and there is a

kember on the Democratic side who has some questionl

about this Billr letls take it out of the record for

the tine being.''

Deuster: ''That's a fine suggestion. Thank you.''l ,,S

peaker Miller: A1l right, thank you. The Gentleman from

Cook, Mr . Lechowic,z . ''

, Lechowicz: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker, in fact I have been meeting

with the Department of Public Health on this matter

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and it still hasn't been resolved and if you recall this

matter does require 107 votes so I would request that it

be taken out of the record at this timeon

Clerk selcke: ''SenAte Bi11 436, Shea and Campbello '' I!Speaker Miller: ''I don't see either one of the Gentlemen on l

the floor so take it out of the record, Mr. Clerk.'' '

Clerk Selcke: ''Senate Bill 749, Fleck, Senate Bill 749,

an Act to amend the Principals and Incone Act, Third

:)Reading of the Bill.''

Speaker Millerl 'lThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Eleck.l' '

Fleck: ''Mr. Speaker, this goes with 1490 House Bill which

had passed out of the House and this is merely the

t Senate version which passed the Senate and came out of

Judiciary Committee. It permits the additiary trustees . '

to charge part oâ their compensation, take it out of

the record, please.'' .

Speaker Miller: ''Take House Bill, or Senate Bill 749 out of. ' ê . .'

. , the record. . .

Clerk Selcke: ''Senate Bill 875, Neff, a Bill for an Act to'

amend ihe Highway Code, Third Reading of the Bil1.''

Speaker Miller: flThe Gentleman from Henderson, Mr. Neff-/

Neff: ''Mr. Speakeriand Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housee ''

. senate Bill 875 is a Bill that amends the present

temporary closing'laws for township roads to bring them

into confirmation with other road closing laws of the

State of Illinois. Actually, what we are doing heree

we require public notification of a petition requesting

that a road be temporarily closed has been receivedJ

and providing sufficient time so that interested citizens1

may offer their comments to the road commissioner before

he makes his decision. In other words a township road

cannot be closed without notification first. It provides

a two year limit on temporary closings. Also provides

that the County Superintendent of Highway approve of

the plan, specifications and bonds for the reptacement of

the roadso''

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Speaker Miller: ''Is there discussion? The Gentleman from

Cook, Mr.Lechowiz.o ' '

Lechowicz: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Sponsor yield

to a question?''

Speaker Millerz MHe indicates he will. You may proceedo''

Lechowicz: ''Is there a limit now as far as how long your

road can b'e closeda'' '

Neff: ''To my knowledge, not. That is one of the things, Tede '

that they told me they wapted to clear up.''. . r ? ,

Lechowicz : ''Well I was wondering '. . . '' .#' .

Neff: NThat is, pardon mee Ted, that is on township roads./'

Lichowiczz ''Yeah, I was just wondering if there has been'

. any study as far as the length of the closing of kownship

, . roads in the past. Has it been more than three years or

. ' less? ' ' . . . . . ' ' '

Neff: ''I think this is very unusual.vthey run into more than. l .

three years alkhough in some townships for some reason

. 'or other they have run into where the road was closed '

' . and for one reason or another it was kept open, closed '

longer than the three year period. The fact is I

, personally know of one road was closed for five years

u and put laite a lot of people ou# on a rural area thatneeded this road-''

Lechowicz: ''Representative Neff, what is the difference'. 'between a township or a district road' for my own

' edif ication?'' .

Neff: ''I am not familiar with what you call a district road.

1 A township 'road, downstate Ted. we have Ehe kownship

' roads and the county roads as well as the StaEe roads

and we have that...''

Lechowlcz: ''Wel1, thatîs why I raised the question. I havei

only know of three different roads in the State. Now,

is this something new? What is a district road?''

N f f ; 'llf I mentioned district, I am not sure whether I ie!

mentioned that, Ted, because.- ''

Lechowicz: ''Wel1, it's right in the synopsis, it's line 2.

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It says temporary close 'and reconstruct the townshipor district road to be filed with the County Superintendentof Highways-l'

Speaker Miller: ''I think, Mr. Calvo/ the Gentleman from E!

Madisony can enlighten us on this question. Mr. Calvow'' 1

Calvo: ''Wel1, I don't know whether I can enlighten us or ' i1- ' jnot but Clarencey isn't the present law that they can(only close the roads for one year and now we are going IIto extend it to three?'' '. ; ' $

Neff: ''I don't believey Mr. Calvo, Representativé Calvo, j

that there is any time. I think you can close a township. road î' . '

' ' iCalvo: ''A1l righk, one other question

. if I might, Mr. '

Speaker. Are you skill, do you have some other questionsy '.

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Lechowicz: '''No# my only question, Horacee is what's the

difference between a townships or a district road?''Calvo z HLet McMaster tell you that

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. jSpeaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Knox

e Mr. Mchfaster is in r' Mr. Collinsç seat. Mr. Phil Collins seat.'' . .

McMaster: ''Ted, you will find that in Ehe commission form

of countic/' irtstead Gf township 'roads you have road' ' '

' diètrièts rather than township and then you have districkroads in those road districts within a commission county.

. This is why it is written that wayo'' ' '

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Lechowicz: pThank you very muchv''

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Speaker Miller: ''All right, now they were you finishede

Mr. Calvo? All rightp the Gentleman from Madison, Mr. .

Calvo.n '' :

Calvo: ''Wel1z Clarence, in looking at this Bi11, it looksto me like we are taking the authority over the

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?.NEj township roads away from the Township Road Commissioner. 'J!

ori and glving ït to the county Road Commiàsioner

. Does it'.î t ztJ . lj1, I that appear to you to be correctv'' jrjl

''ves, Representative cazvo, to some exten. they ao '1 'j.''â,.l Neff:'jr'.,...'have to take it to''the Superintendent of Roads but one $3t )

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of the main things: counky roads, but one of the main '

things is that we wank the public to be notified of

these closings before the closing. And that's one of

the main things we are trying to get through here i. i

because under the present 1aw in township, closing

' township roads they can be closed without giving,

notifying the public ahead of time.'' '

Calvo: ''If I might just speak briefly then to the Billy I

don't believe this is a good Bill, Mr. Neff. Nowy I

. think that part of the Bill about notifying the public

, of a closing is good but I donlt like to see us kaking .. l . . . . ' .1 . ' '' . . . . . .

. 'the Township-Road Commissioner's authority away like -

We: like'it appears to me we are doing in this Bill and. .' .

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. ,putting in the county Commissionery'l mean the County ' .

' . Road Comnpissioner. .Therefore, I would urge a 'no' vote '

on this Sepate Bill because, for that very reason.W .

Speaker Miller: 1'Al1 right, the Gentleman from Knox, Mr. .'McMaster,aih Mr. Collins seat, did answer a question. '

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.Now he would like to speak to the Bill. Is that right,

' Xr. McMaster? You may proceed.''

. McMasterz .''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentl emen of the Housey

: . I would like to , if I ti,an . shed a little 'liqht cn

this Bill. AcEually, the krust for the Bill came from

'. '' Fulton eountv where there is a great deal of temporary

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. road closings as there is in other counties where there

is surface mining going on. Under present law, a' ' d

. ' temporary road closing can be done by the Township .' d lition with an indefiniteRoa Commissioner on his own vo'period an2 under this Bill, it Would give the additionai

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authokity of the County Superintendent of Highways '

' entering into the agreement.': The temporaryhclbsipg woùld

t be limited to a three year period rather than being

) indefinite and for this reason, I think it's a good Bill

along with a notification of the road closing being

published in the newspaper. The fact that the Road

' Commlssioner andrthe Guperintendent of Highways would b0th

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. sp eaker Mlller : l''7.'?3e C enol e'a'aa f rOm .C ook , Mr . buf f . ''

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D u f f : '' u :t 1. I t. h ., sr s, tp n s o r s 1el..'5 t o a q ue s t f o n ? ''

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Duff: ''I nottced fhat they #zt a new provision in here,

:j .Rep r e s eata t .r..-.e jt 21 e f f : t o req u r e t h e a pproval of the . .

sprets 1,z tz.a iltgbway- co=missioner and I wonaer what '

ou thinu serx ror Connally had in mind when he put thaty

in. ' '

Neff: 'fI can't -a11 you What Senator connally had in mind

but as I saz. the Road Cammission does make the approval

' sut the. ouzy ne can make this decision. The Township

Road commissxapner can only make the final deeisions on .

' . whe t h ax to c 7.,: fs e .a roa d Or rlo D iq a nS Ver t.'J Rep re s en t'a tkve

Calvo . . .''Duff: ''I can't y.Nar you, Representattve Neff.'î

speaker Mfazerz *.Ar. Neff, he was having difficulty hearing

proceed pleasezyou. uiil ypw

Neff: ''Represearxçtve Duff. I believe your.fquestion wasy

why z- vas s-vt tn tbere that. vould you repeat that

questson aga// nOW?

Dufr: '.Y.=h epxee ts some rather vague wording ln tEere

that ss =ex n.J &he B111. It says a surety bond has to

' be appzaver- '.igy the Hithway Commisstoner and I am not

-u - -ua '.. rrzeans tbat a surety bond has to beSure % & . . .

. a-.s J. vonder wby you thtnk that senator connally

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the improvement ftself, he would have the authority to

approve the bond because qutte often the Townshtpk ' ,'1 Commissioner would like to pass this on to somebody else

to make thfs decfsion. Maybb he isn't qualfffed to make

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Duff; ''And one more question, Representatfve Neff. In the .

publication requirements ve have been talkfng aboutnkhe

necessfty of publishing iù a newspaper and yet thèlBill;

I provides that if,'there isn't any newspaper that it ran

be posted in five different places wfthout specifying

! really wiat kinds of places and why would not there be' . . . .I ' . . .

! ' a newspaier available of éeneral cfrculation? Do you ' ' 1 know of any place in the State where there is not a '

' nevspaper of neneral cfrculatiozs?'' ?. : . . ' I I .Neff: . I doubt whetber there fs aay place and as this Bfll

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'ydoes say, if you do have a newspaper it must be '

I ( . . . y p . : . . . . . . .' publfshed in the newspaper. .t ' '- : .

. . . ', . ,, Duff: . Welly Mr. Speakery I would like to speak to the Bill.

- ' ' Speaker Miller: ''You may pfoûeed.'' '

' Du f f :' .' '' I can s ee t:e goo d int ent i on beh k nd the B:t1l bu t :: lt ' .. . !

. . .' seems to me that tllere are some fairly serious oversfshts

. ' ln ' the drafting. 0ne is. there is probably no piace iu .

' Illinois where tbere is not a nevspaper of Reneral '

circulation and to put a provisfon in lfke thfs c. . '

. . :. : ' allows posting in five unspeciffed places of such a

. , ' ehangem it would seem to me fs not befag attentive to

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' tbe fact that the people do have a right to know and

', tbere should be a mandate of publlc publieation in a. ( . .

newspaper of general cfrculatfon and the other thiag fs

dthe very vagueness of these wor s which are new to the

Bi11, new to the Act that isy vhtch say approved, a

i hway commxssionersurety bond aust be approved by the H g .

and the county Righway commissioner aad it doesnft give

any standards for approval. It doesn't say.whatk.and

' i am sure that when this was drafted there was no I

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intention here that any selectivity could go on without

relatfonshfp to any standard but it's very certafn that

in 102 counties there would be possibilities that some ;. . I

kfnds of surety bonds might not be accepted perhaps

because of whoever put them in. We can/:t deny that

sometimes there are political decfsions made in these

. thfngs and I think that's a loosely drafted factor

lj 'within the Bi11.

Speaker Miller: HThe Gentlemaù from Cook, Mr. R.L. Dunne.'î

Dunne: ''Mr. Speaver and Members of the House, I èoncur vfth

what Representative Duff just said and perhaps the

Sponsor might pull this out of the record briefly. Thère. . L

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fs really some things that have to be cleared up in''

d 6 f e 1 could ever support thts Bill I would :my min e ox . .

' ' lfke to have the opportunity to talk te him about: ï.t ' '

a little bit. I wonder if he might take it out for the' 11 ' ' 'moment. . ' . . '

Speaker Miller: ''Before we decide thaty Mr. Waddelly the

' Gentleman from Kane has been seeking recognition. Mr.

Wadd e 1l.t 11 . '

Waddell: 17 HMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, '

l ' this is uot as myster'loua as it would seem 8o %e förj . , . . ' .

, . those of us who live out in that area and I would like '

' to relinquish my tlme to Representative McMaster.'e'

4.McMaster: Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housey

if I can cfear up a little bft on the surety bond, the '

surety bond language is in the o1d language and the only. . f

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'. thing new that s added is the idea of approval of the

' surety bond and for that reason I see nothtng wrong w1th: .

someone has got to approve the surety bond and as far

as an amount I think you'have varying situations. A

number of different situatfons and ft involved a different

amount of money and a different type of replacement oft1

$ the highways and Bobs if there is anything further of

your questionsy did you have a further question: BobS''

Sp ea ker M i1 ler: ''Is ther e fur ther d iseu ssfo n ? Do e s the

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Neff: A'one of the things Representative Duff brought up vas '

: on newspapers. Now I aa familiar wfth some countfes '

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' .that doa t have a local newspaper in the eounty. There

7 . (j .ar e ou tsïde papers b/o uaht in but there may Ye sfx to '

: eight different daily papers brought into t:e county

1 .from other areas and therefore it does make it a lïttte .: .

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bft of a problem in this small county vhere they don't '

have a local kaper and they would have to covex ai1 the

C people'rin thk.'couaty. ' They would have to bave maybe

six or seven different papers to publish ft in. On

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Representative Calvq.xl dfdnlt answer him too clear and . '

T wanted tù strafghten that out. - Tbe Road Comoissfoner '' t

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t:erroad. It fs a lounship deeisikxn and wi11 remain so -

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under thfs B111. The County Superintendent is called

' upon only after the Road Commissioaer has made his

decision and plans are beiag prepared for the replacement

roadway. So the Townshtp, so called Township or Read

Commissioner does have still aurherity to make the': There .S

decisioa whether the road w111 he closed or not.

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committee without practically any dissenting votes. I

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people have asked for and I would appreciate a favorable

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speaker Miller: nA11 right: ks therep the Gentleman bas '

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. y g y t uaru oa use .Closed. Mr. Dunne, it s Jut 0 or erv u y

' mike foT Mr*v..'' ' .

: Dunne: ''I have a question of the Spoasor if I could. 'f

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he wonet take it out of the record I would ltke to

!') question...''

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Speaker Mtller: HAII right, a11 rfght. proceed, Mr. Dunne.''

f.j Dunnet fo his matter of, as I read in the dlgest of. of

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Neff: 'lBob thatfs the same as in the o1d statutes on th'e> .

bonding issue and this does mean that the County .

Superintendent would be fnvolved as well as the local i

Township Road Commissioner in making the approval of it.

In other words b0th of them would have to make the

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Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Dunne.'' .

Dunne: MWelly are'you saying that there is absolutely no

change at a1l wfthin: with respect to surety bonds?''

Neff: ffYes, I say this, to the best of my knowledge there '. E.

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jwould be no change whatsoever fn the surety bonds. Iam sure it would be the same as in the o1d statute and ' (.

to my knowledge there is no change fn the statute ou ). , '

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' jSpeaker Miller: ''All right, the questïon is. shallnsenate '

Bill 875 pass. A11 those in favor will vote 'aye' aud .. )' opposed 'nay'

. Have a11 voted who wish? Take the'.' I. '

. . (record, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Randolph, how is Mr. Randolph ' 'i

recorded?'' ' '.

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jClerk Selcke: ''The Gentleaan is recorded as not voting.f?!

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yy . . jSpeaker Miller: f'Show the Gentleman as êaye'. Mr. Barry.. . Barzy: ''Jtfst to e vea i t up I vo ted f or a seuate Bill bl .' '

i k Change mfne from 'aye' to 'no' '' 'm sta e. .

Speaker Miller: ''Change Mr. Barry from 'ayel to 'nof. Mr.' Hill how is he recorded?'' ' ' ' ' . !

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. 1Clerk Selcke: 'Qhe Gentleman fs recorded as not votiag.'' .. . ' I

Speaker Hiller: 'Wote Mr. Ri1l .'nof. On thfs questfon there ';

are 82 'ayesg. and 16 gnays' and thfs Bfll havfng failed.. ' z . '. . ., '

the Centleman from Henderson, kr. Neffo'' .

1Neff: ''I hate to take the time of the House but thfs Bill fs .

a good Bill and I think there fs some misunderstanding !I

on 1t. 1 will be glad to talk to anybody that uould like j

1and I would like permission to postpone it and I hateE' jto ask to do this but I thfnk thfs is a Bi11 that is good

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Speàker Miller: ''The Gentleman requests postponed. Would

M Lechowica like to Ye reeolnized:'' 'r.

Lechowicz: l'Yeah, I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. I was off the 2

floor temporarily. I don't know what tbe count fs but

I would lfke to be recorded as 'ayee.''

Speaker Miller: î'The count is now 83 'ayes' and the Gentleman '

has asked for postponement. Collins 'aye' Joe McGah

'aye' Beatty Jaye'. Kozubowski 'aye'. Mr. Hf11. the ' '

Gentleman from Kane, Mr. Hi11.''

Hi11: ''I distinctly heard the Gentleman ask'for postponed

consfderation. You granted that and now you are '

starting the Roll Call again. ' Now ft seems to me...''' . . ' .

Speàker Miller: ''He did he reiuested, I didù't declare ft,I saïd he requested postponemçnt consideratfon. At that

' point Mr. Lechowicz asked for recognitio n.''

Hi11: ''Then Mr. Speaker, I am going to ask for a verification

vhen it gets to 89. If you vant to waste the time ef

the Housep thatgs perfectly al1 right with me.''

' Miller: 'fAl1 rfght now let's keep this thing inSpeaker ,'

.order. Now, I am willing to abide by the wlshes of

. y the Sponscr v'ith requeç.t as to whether or nok he wanes

this on postponed consideratfon or I wfll graut him the

s right to another Roll Call. 'Mr. Neff from Fenderson.'''

Neff: HMr. Speaker, at this time I would like to take thisJ

l out of the Roll ca11.''j. '

Speaker Miller: ''It must go on postponed consfderatfon and .

you have that right, sfr, to place thfs Bill on

postponed consideration. Call the next Bill. Mr. Clerk.1

Just a minute: Mr. Clerk. Mr. Fleck. a few minutes ago

and I believe you read Senate Bi11 749 a third ttme and I

now the Chair will recognize the Centleman from cook.It I

Hr. Fleck.'' Il IFleck: HNow that the light has struek and I read the Bill and

i1 ' lI read the digest I don't know what the Bfll fs about.:

This is a Senate Bill and I know tbat this ls a very.

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very touchy kind of Senate Bill but 1et me pofnt out

to you that this is the same Bill that House Bfll 1400 ' ;

' whtch I handled which passed Judfciary Committee

unanimously and went out of the Houe unanfmously so let's

just think we are vottng on House Bil1 1400 which Senate

Bill 749 is an exact' duplication of and I would Eope we

expect a favorable vote in this regard.''

Speaker Mfller: 'Qs there discussfon? The Gentleman from

' McLean. Mr. Bradleva'' ' .

Bradley: nl wonder if the Gentleman would yield for a

ick uestionb'' - . ': 'qu q .

Speaker Miller: l'He fndicates he willp'' '. 7 . ' .

Bradley: 'tDid I hear you say correctly that you hadp you '. passed the same Bill out of here? Coul/'l ask you ' ,

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. . 1 1 ' ''wlter e. tha t 34.11 i s r i ch t now ? .

Fleck: ..ffThat Bt1l is in the Senate unless ft vent to some

other... . .

B d1e ': nAnd wbat are they doing with it in the Senatet''ra y

Fleck: ''I think they are passfng ft. They are befng Very

nice to me ovqr there.'' ' '

Bradley: ''Thank you.'' ' '

Speaker diller: ''ïs there further discussfon? T*e Gentleman

from Christians Mr. Tipsword.''k

Tipsword: HWould the Gentleman yield for a questionl''( ' . .

. ' ' .Speaker Miller: ''Proceèd, sir.''

Ti sword : ''Mr Fleck, does this Bill provfde tha t at lèas t 'p .

' half of the payment of the Trustee's fees are going

. to come out of principal instead of from income?l' . '

Fleck: f'Thar is correct but there are limftâtioàs''on this.

There were two Bills that came into the Commfttees

the House Committee. Presently the fiduciarfes are

limited to income. However. this does work as adverse

to any surviving widow who might have a family and be

tbe life tenant tn the trust so her incomo: is from the '

trust: of course. Now if the ffduciaries are gofng to

be taking their fees out of the fncome she will receive

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less money and realize less profit. The Bill as ft

is prepared gfves a limited discretion, one half out ' j

of the prinicpàly one half out of the income wfth a :limitation in th'e principal that if there is any ktad

of real èstate involved or unmarketable assets that then .

they would be limfted to the income and not invade the

princfpàl in any way.l'

Tipsword: $'Do I understand that you previously passed out

of this House an equakty or better, equally good or

better Bill than this?'î

Fleck: fêI passed out of this Hèuse a duplicate Bt11. The

twin is now over in the Senate and it is looked on .

very favorably by the Senators and I am sure they wfll

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Ttpsword: HThat's ffne, then ve don't really need thfs Senate' B i 1. 1 d O W C î '' ' '

Tleck: 9'1 was afraid you would get to that eventually but

that's <hy I am asking that you lookïattkhis as House

Bill 1400 and not Senate Bill 749.:'

Speaker Miller: ''Al1 rfght, the Gentleman from Cooky Mr.

Ewell '' ' ' '; *

Ewell: ''Would the Gentleman answer a question?lg

speaker Miller: ''Pro'ceed sir.'' ' ' î. : .

Ewell: OWho wants this Bf1l#.H' ' .

Fleck: ''Who wants this Bi11? Fiduciaries's a great number of

banks across the 'state and thfs fs a Bill that deals

with the banks that are fiduciaries fn the trustso''

Ewell: HThié is a bank Bf11?'#

Fleck: ''I don't know if you would call it a bank Bf11.N

Ewell: Huell whatw..''

Flezk: ''lhe onlyhopposition, if I cou1d...''

Ewell: 'Q don't talk about the opposftiony let's talk about:

who's for it. I mean I understandz'.

' Fleck: ''Oh al1 right, welly it's the bankers. They ftnd. #

that tbis would make things a 1ot easier for them and

for your informationq there fs a 1ot of Statesy a great

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no limitation.n .

Ewell: ''We1l, I am glad to be enlfghtened on thfs partfcular

matter and just like I supported your House Bfll overu .

therey I don't want to see thfs Body go to a 1ot of! .r needless dvplication of work and send up to two Bills to

! fthe Covernor, waste the expenditure of everybody s time;

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! having it printed. If this is such a good Bï11 tt's! ' .

looked upon favorably fn the Senatea I urge a 'no' vote.

It's a senate Billy it's superftuous. It serves no ':

purpose since the duplicate Bill kas been passed and: . . ' )I would ask every Member in good conscfence to give it

$ $ d 1 f '' ' 8 n O VO t e a n a S W e S a y , e t S t r y t O P tl t t h e S ell a t e

on with the House business instead of us dolng a1l of '

thc S eltiï t e ' s bu s inas s . '' .

Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from take, Mr. Matfjevich.''

Matijevich: '#Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I would 'k '

i concur with the remarks of the last Gentleman. ' Justj . . . . .

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yesterday Representative Tom Miller on the other side

' and I did wripe a lètter to the Lekiàlative Council and

. part of that letter is in agreement with what the

' Minority Leader said a little while ago when we had

r our hettdébàte. What ve say. we ask vhat have other .: . %

. ' States done or what can be considered to make greaterJ' utilization of Joint Senate-House Committees? It fsr .

evfdent that we waste so much time on duplicate or

. sfuflar Bills. We ought to have some siftfng oût

r procedure in each House to avoid duplication wfthfn t%e

fnitiating legislative body and a loint Copmittee system: 1

to avofd needless waste betweea the two Eouses. Also.

can you research ways that other ftates use to better

! Senate-House eommuuizations as between Members? What

other procedures are in effect tn other States ori9

what other procedures kave been recommended by any

N individual or organization which vould promote a more

j'' f f ic ient operat ion of the Leg ts la ture? Now . Ladie.s ip eg. i

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!I i' and Gentlemen of the House, thfs is one time that we can

Just sit on our hands on thts Bill because the Bill fs

already out of the House fn the Senate. I would urge

ou to no t V0 t e a t ai.l on thi s Bill and espec f ally tho se IY

suburban Legislators and downstate Democrats who are

still a lfttle irritable about what has happened. At

least, ue ought to wait until tbere is a full Membershi/. I

and not vote outqa 'Bill when we stfll have many other

things up fn the air. I would urge a ûot voting at'

a1l on this Bi11.P

Speaker Miller: NThe Gentleman from Kahkàkee. Mr. Beaupre.''

Beaupre: 'îRepresentative Flecks would you yield for a questio ?M I

Speaker Miller: ''Proceédo:sire'' ''

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Beaupre: ''Dnder this Bi11 fs it mandatory that half of the . 1. . :'

j'. compensatfon come out of principal or are we ealing

' with a situation vhere when there are no income funds . 1

that we revert to principàl?''

Fleck: ''This is a situation where it would be half and half

' unless and as in the wordtng of the Bill. în the j

Judgmént of the trustee, the cbarting of a part or al1

. of sucb portion of the trustees regular compensation

to prïnclpal is impractical and here ls where there is: . ..

limitation because of lack of sufficient principal cash .. ' ' k . ;

and readily marketable intangible personal property. SO' for the people who are e'oacerned downstate, if you have . ;

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a farm or something which might be tied up fn an estate

trust you can't '' ' ' 'Or a y ...

n . i h ia #v '. Bea upr e: Mr . Sp ea kerx. I ca n t h a r .

Speaker Miller: ''May we please keep t%e noise down as the

persons interested in this Bill are unable to hear. can

roceed now, Mr. Fleek?'' Iyou p!

Fleèk: HWe11 Mr. Speaker, I have seen thfs happen beforel

' d occur but as a person 'and it s unfortunate that it oes iI

who voted on the downstate Democratic stde of that funny

Bill we had awhile ago, I wfll answer Mr. Beaupre's I

questfon as best as I can. Thfsn a''

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Beaupre: t'Mr. Speaker, I would like to point out to the

Sponsor that I am willing to consider his Bfl1 on the

merits regardless of vhat has been safd here and I am

merely asking that he clarify what the Bill doesw''

Fleck: 'tA11 rtght, the Bill. as I explained before wfth

' House Bill 14, the trustee to fnvade the prfncipàl for

fees when they have one half in income, one half fn

principal unless it is impractical because of the type

of asset or it isn't a readily marketable personal '

property involved. That simply in a nutshell is what

it does .'' '

Speaker Miller: NAre you throughs Mr. Beaupre? A11 right,

' the Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Maragos.'' ' . '

Maragos: HMr. Speaker and Melbers of the Housey I arise fn

f f this Bill and for its passage. No doubt many 'avor o

of us have missed soue of the actfons of the House on

the other side of the rotunda. However, if you wfll

notice the Sponsors of this particular Bi11 are not

' guilty of any of those actions. In fact. they have .' '

been most kind in tryïng to help us get some of our

work done over there. More importantlyy as Mr. Beauprei ' ' ' li

. said and others have spokeny the purpose of us here at

this deliberative body fs to go through the merits ofs

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the Bi11.' Because of the trust laws that were adopted

at the .turn of the century regarding the payment of

feeâ of trusteesy where it was primarily an agricultural .

society, there was no way you could draw your income

' Or DaYTyour trustees fees'or Other costs from the) '' ''' .

princïpàl because there was no cash on hand and it: .

was a11 mostly in real estate. However, at the turn of

the century, the last two decades and since the trustees hhave been allowed to invest in common stock and other I

itypes of security, it is easier for them sometimes to

4 delve into the principal and make it better in the longrun for the remainfng men and also for the fncome I

beneficfary at the tfme that the trust is active to

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lreceive this money and tù give the trustee an incentive

to keep on workfng harder to increase the benefits of

the trust. It fs a good Bi11 and in order for us to be

safe that nothing happens in the Senate with the other '

Bill I would recommend the passage of this thiagy this. jBi11 out and maybe we can get the Governor to sign.

' to hold pff signing any other Bill until we get the ones

h h the Senate. But at this time however vltqvbuldt roug N s' 'recommend your passage of this ffne pfece of leqislation.

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S ker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Marfon Mr. Stedelfn.''Pea y

Stedelin: ''Mr. Speàker and Ladies and Gedtlemen of the Eouseyl. ' ' ' .' ' ' ' '. . . '

.', '.I have to be one of these downskate Denocrats that

' ' didn't go along with the Bill in question and I wfll '

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, . ' tell you this is a good Bill and I am not going to 1et .

' a lï,ttle thing lfke tllpt keep me from voting for'it.

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time and I hope we 1et the dead past bury fts dead and .

' vote for a good legislation and vote agafnst the bad .

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' Speaker Miller: HThe Gentleman from Vermilfony Mr. Craigo''. . '

Craig: PMr.zlspeaker and Members of the Houses I feel like

chis Bill nere was like the other Bfll that passedr,out ''of here and surely'we can get enough votes here to pu4 '

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''','-on this calendar and get moving here with this calendar '

and I would like to see some votes put on here and get .

to passing some of tbese Bi11s.#' ''

Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Cookm Mr. Terzfchs'?

Terzich: '#I move the previous question.'''

1 f'A11 right the previous questfon has beenSpeaker Mi1 er: .

moved. A11 those in favor say îaye' opposed 'nay'.

The 'ayes' have it and the Chair recogatzes the. 1,l Gentleman rrom cook

, Mr. Fleck to close the debate-'' i

Fleckz HWelly I will close very brtefly. The Btll has been

explained and questioned but as far as 1 personally am

concerned in answer to Representattve Matijevich the

only real reason I want this Bill to pass: although

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i t .House Bill 1400 is passed, is because I have a bet with ,

Phil Rock to :ee which one the Governor wi11 sign: mine' o r h 1 s ''

Speaker Miller: ''AII right, the question fs, shall Senate. I

Bill 749 pass. A11 those fn favor wfll vote 'ayel,

opposed 'nay'. Have a11 voted who wfsh? The Gentleman' !

from Cook, Mr. Ewell. to explain his vote.''

Ewell: f'Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemeny the ffrst I

definition of a Bill as to whether it is good or bad

fs ks ft needbd and any tfme you tell me you have ' .

already got a Bill I think you are being about ridiculous.. ' ' . vl

' And any time this House can stoop to sittfng up voting. ' ' ' ' ( '

. ' , . 'L 'on Bills to simply determine whether one Sponsor or '. ' . . ' . '. y the other can get it signed by the Governor, it's almost. .

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.. time for us to'go home and I vote 'uo#.'' . ' $.

S eaker Mil 1er : 'flTake the r ec or d Mr . C 1er k . 02 th t s ' ques t io n ' 'P :. there are l23 'ayes' and 9 'nays' and this Bill having

received the Constftutional Majorfty is hereby delcared' ' e, . 'passed. , ' .

Clerk Selcke: 'îsenxte Bill 20 Craig a Bi11 for an Act to

.amend the Illfnofs Vehicle Code. Thfrd Readïna of the. - '''' ..

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Speaker Miller: VThe Gentleman from Vermilionp Mr. Craigo'l! ' . %' craig: 'lMr. Speakèr and Members of the Housey Senate '

Bill 20 gives the investigatorss it spells out what . .

' . . (their duties are now in the Secretary of State's Office j

. . . , , ' . . j. . . . . . . t' ' ' have the right to write 1. and it sy now then they don t

a Warning licket and this WiI1' give them that right and'

now they only have two choices fs to 1et someone go. (.

or arrest: wrfte an arrest tfcket. That makes thefr #'q

' pover to conform wfth a police power.'' ?' k

S eaker Miller : ''The Gentleman f ron Cook Mr . Jaf f e .'' ''P , ,

1 Jaffe: HWould the Gentleman #feld to a question?n J'

Speaker Miller : I'Proceed . '' '?: 1*

. j''Bob can you tell us wha t the Amendment say: ? I have ijJa f f e : yt #' 'tl' he Bi11 over here and what you say is not what the B111 $1t t

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Craig: ''What was that questfon?n. . i

. ' j' Jaffe: '1I want to know what the Amendment safd because ehe

Bill is atrociously bad and mayb; the Amendment cleans ' '1it up. I don't have the Amendment.'' '

crafg: ''It, the Amendment, gives the powers of wtiting and

issufng a tfcket where they can efther ff tkey don'tI

want to, it gives them. it spells out the power to fssue. I.' ? . .

a warning ticket if they don't desfre to gfve a arrest ' I

ticket or lust literallv 1et them Ro.H . . ')

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Jaffe: HWel1 let me ask you thisy Boby because what you ' '

said makes the Bill even worse. A11 rlght, the .:. . . 1.

'' original Bill said that investiqators may stop and I.

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' inspect anv'vehicle to determ' ine if the vehicle or . I

. driverrlis in compliaace with this Act. Is that still '. . , ' j

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ff ' ' 'Jaffe: Well, Mr. Speaker. if I may I would like to speak

against this Bi11.'' '

speaker Millert HYou may proceed,sir.'' '.'

. . L ' . , . . . j':il1 'does is zive the secretary of state's IJaffe: ''whac thfsl zsce more power tkan t'ue pozzce o, this state save. 1po

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' 1What it haa is spot checkina of motor vehicles at <i11. j

.k They don't have to have any rhyme or reason for stopping j' your car and inspecting your car tod:y-accordinz to

1thfs Bfll. In my estfmation thls B*11 is the first .':.

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step toward a totalitarfan state. I thfnk ft fs ' .. .

' ' . . jregressive legislation of the worst kind. I am really

shocked to see that it has gone this far and I hope

it gets less t M n the 4 votes which holds the recordw''

' fpeaker Mfller: ''The Gentleaan frou Macon, Mr. Borchers.n

Borchers: ''Mr. speaker, I would lfke to ask a questfon ot i'

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îîThese inspectors: will they Ye in police cars. 1' Borchers:)

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that can be easfly recognized by myselfs for exampley

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w111 they be perhaps in just ordinary civillan cars or

a car with Just the seal of the State of Illinois on

l Ithe side?'

Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Craig.'î

Craig: 'fI would like to take this out of the record.e'

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j,Speaker Miller: Take this Bill out of the record. Ladies

and Gentlemen, we are having some dffficulty here with

some of these Senate Bills so the Chair is going to

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#go to House Bills Second Reading. And 1et s move these

along. Now: Mr. Clerk, call these Bills in the order '

they' are lfsted on the priority of call. The Chair '

y '', notices that the first Bill is Mr. Telcser s Bill and

I zonrt think he has returned today from and therefore

. take that one cut of the record. sut call the next

one on the seniority of call list if Mr. Choate is on' the floor or someone handlinq this for him.'' t

clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 1932/ Choate.'' , '

Speaker Miller: ''Is someone handling this for Mr. Choate or '

shall we Just take it out of the record for the time '. o

being? Take it out of the record for the time being.lf

I ; c l e 1- k S e 1 c k u : , '' H o u s e B i 1 1 1 0 4 6 D e u s L e z' . f ' . '* .

Speaker Mfller: nMr. Lechowicz: I took it out of the record. '

' . Do you desire to go 'aheâd and call ft now? Do you -' . .want to call it in Mr. Choate's absence or we should

go aheadî We will be back to this order of busfnesso'' .

Lechoviczz t'We11, I will wait for the prtncipal Sponsor.'' '

. speaker Mfller: ''A1l right, take thfs Bill out of the record.

At least for the time beingo''

Ij 'Clerk Selcke: House Bill 1046, a Bill for an Act to create

a publie authority mass transportation system within

sfx county Chicago metropolitan area, Second Reading of

the Bf11. 20 Committee Amendments.''

speaker Miller: HAII right, read Committee Amendment #1.:1

Clerk Selcke: ''Committee Amendment //1, amends House Bill

1046 on page 1: line 2 immediately after Section...''

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Speaker Mfller; ''AII right, the Gèntlcman from Lake, Yr.. 1

,f ! .Deuster.

Deuster; ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House:

thfs legfslatlon ks the result of the contrfbutfon of

a lot of peeple and there have been a lot of Amendments.;'

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There vere 20 Coaaittee Auendments adopted. They were ' '.

al1 my Amendments. Tyere are 10 floor Amendments takïng' ;

ft up ro number 30, they are a1l my Amendments and out 1

of respect to ehe time of the House and ïn order to '

be expedftious: I have Aaendment #33 prepared which isIon everyone's desk vhfch fncorporates al1 these

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Amendments and elïminates the necessity of takfng thea '..'.'

up one by one'and so ,wïth leave of the House I would ' . .

like to move to table the zo'comaittee Amendments and '

the 10 floor Amendmentss a11 of which were develeped ' ::. 1

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Speaker Miller; ''The Centlenan moves to table Amendment #1 ' ' '

through 30. The Centleman has leave. These Kmendments '

are tabled.'' '.

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Deuster: ''Nowy Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the '

H Re resentat ive '' ' '' 'Ousey P ... . .

., 4j :.5 t -? ., 'Speaker Miller: Just a moment. Is there an Amendment

cl er k s e lc ke t ''Amendment iï 31 a Saugme f s t (z''I > amend a Mou s a ' '

Bill 1046, page 1: line 2 and so fortho'' .

Speaker Miller: t'Is this Mr. Sangmeister with respect to '' .. :

Aiendoent //31? The Gentleman from uill. Mr. Sangmeister.l'. ' ' y .

' . l .Sangmeister: 'Q now have to ask Mr. Deuster a question. You 't

know wbat has happened here now with this being called. . i'Those additfonal Amendments where I was going to table ' '

these are not ready yet. Are you willing to proceed vith '

the adoptfon of your Amendment and then hold this en .

. Seeond Reading so that I can get mlne in thete or how '

e olng to proceed herer' 'are w g

.:Deuster: f'Yes. I would be perfectly willing to do that. Of '.t)

course, I think it migbt be that fn view of the tfme

involved it might be more expeditiouss Representative w

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Sangmefster, kf it were igreeable with you and I think 't

we have an understanding on thfsy that we could allow .

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this, ff the Legislatfve Reference Bureau doesn't have' 1:'.

those or I know you bave the secretary workfng on themy '

ff they are not available for the Members. we ceuld 1et

this go to Third Reading and then take ft back to

S d for the 'purpose of your Amendment ff that vouldecon

be agreeable with .you and if not I would be happy to

respond to any other suggestfon.d''

11 ' ' ' v,Sangmeister: You have my assurance that that will be done.

Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Sangmeistèr.' May the Chair ask a

. question: Mr. Sangmeister. Is your question with respeci

to AmendmenE I 31 only? 1: . '$ . . ' ' ' ' ' .s. . . ?

Sangmé f s t er : ''Amendme n t # 31 ', and # 32 I am go ing t o tab le and . ' 'vr . .

'. . present substitute àmendmeits for them. I want to make .,

damn sure ft e' omes back on Third Readfng for those to'

go fn there. Otherwise, 1, he has put me in t:is .

' ' position because he, his Amendments have affected my '. . # .

. ' ' ' ' .f' ' Amendments don't make any sense noY that Ye has

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incorporated al1 of his Amendments into oneo'''

'f 5'Speaker Mfller: Nows just a moment. Mr. Palmery the c

' Gentleman from Cookru .' . .

Palmer: HWe11 Mr. Speaker, I see that Amendment #33 was '. >

Just placed on our desks..e'' . ' '' . :,

, . . speaker Miller: Well, just a moment. We have got tp èoncern ..

ourselves rizht now wit: Amendment //31.3, 7

Sahgmeis te'r z q 7. t'Wë11'; .')1 j ust ':wohdeb.z f f ;r he.: f s . going to ' take ' ' ,. . . ; . ' .

. his out of the record. The 33 is so 'comprehlnsive we

caanot 'possibly get to this tbing today. No way and

, I Just wonder ff the Sponsor of the Bfll will not. or' the Amendmenty 33, won't bold ït until tomorrow. untfl

such tfme as we do have a chanceo.-l'

Speaker Mfller: ' nA1l righty the questton now: though: before

this House is with respect to Amendment //31 and the

Chalr is recognfztng Mr. Sangmefster who is the Sponsor '

of this Amendment.n

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Sangmeister: ''We1ly Mr. Deustery I am asktng you to take

it out of the record. Al1 right?'l

Speaker Miller: 1'I don't know who was speaking.'' .. . ISangmeister: nl am. Please take it out of the record, a1l '

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Deuster: ''I will be happy to take it out of the reeord if

we have any fndication on when it will be back in the '

record, Mr. Speaker?l':

Speaker Miller: nThe Chair capnot advfse you on that but we) /! . .

cannot take it out of the record. We can hold ft on

Second Reading, Mr. Deuster: because we have already

taken action by tabling the flrst 30 Amendments. Now:

ve can hold it right there as far as the Clerk's offfce

is concerned if that is agreeabley sfro'' .

Deuster: HYes, I am perfectly agreeable to havfng ft held .. . . . . .. .

' right there. It is sfmply a question of a girl fs

typing up the Amendment that Representative Sangmeister

. and I have readhed agreement onv'' ' '

, Speaker Miller: ''AII right, let's hold it: thfs Bill then '

is to be held on Second Reading and thes so the Clerk's

office understands, Amendments //1 through #30 have been

.' ' tabled and now. thls Bill is beinq held at that stagei - . ''' .

on Seoond Reading. The Centleman from Cooky Mr. Sheay '

ejust a moment. , ' .'.

shea: ''Wel1 Mr. Speaker, as I'understand Mr. Deuster's' Amendment it incorporates the substance of Amendments#

//1 through //30 with soie technical language. I amonder ing if we za' n ' t get some kind o f an a gr eemen t in, w

order to move these Second Reading Bflls along that we

can put them in the shape the Sponsor wants them iny

move them to Thtrd Readlng. That way everybody wfll get'

'an opportunfty to read them overnfght and certainly '

t tomorrow. I don't thfnk there ls a Sponsor here that wouldl

not bring those Bills back.''

Speaker Miller: HThe Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Deuster.''

Deuster: ''We1l I haven't moved to Cook county, yetp I am*

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stiil from Lake: Mr. Speaker. I think that's an excellen

suggestion. I think that ff it's a11 right..e.ff we

could move to adopt Amendment #33. which does incorporate

the first twenty and the thirty and ftw..as say.opare

princfply o..ah...technical but they do put the Bfll fnto

the form that the Sponsor would desire it to Ye consid-

ered by.....by the House....''

Speaker Mfller: ''Nows t%e Cbqfr will recognize Mr. Sangmeiste. 1 .

because he has Amendment 731...1:

neuster: nWellp it's a matter of procedure herey..ovahwe.myl

Amendmentàrwere ia perfect order except for the fact that

his Amendment #33 ....ah..makes my Amendment not censist-'

tj fent witlz the ent l.r e Bi11 . . . .Ah . . . Is f t permissi le or

me at this point passï- .and 1et Amendmeat #33 be heard

and Amendment 31 and 32 still stay pendfng?''

clerk Selcke: ''No...''

Speaker Miller: OMay the Chair make a suggestfon? As a

suggestion, you......to Mr. Sangmefster....you might

withdraw 31 and 32 and....ah...>e can renumber Mr....

. . .no?....They are already prfnted?...They are already

prlnted..o.All rfght. we could take up Mr. beustet's

Amendment and if it's agreeable vith Mr. Deuster and you

and the Chair fs not going to get fnvolved with ft nowy

' that ve 'could move it to Third and if there is an àsree-

menty could be moved bick for purposes of your Amendment

tomorrow. That's only a suggestfon. that's not a rultng.

The Gentleman from Bureau, Mr. Barry.g'

Barry: V'Mr. Speaker, if....ah..I may get tvo cents fn here.

. . .ah..mechanically Mr. Sangmeister's Amendment would not

fit and there is nothing in the rules that ft would allow

for renumbering Sections or otherwise to gfve hïs Amend-# .

ment an opportunity at all. The Chair would kave to!''' j! rule tbose fnconsistent and they d never be consfdered,

1' with or without going to Third Readiagq.w.so, tbink t%e

sfmplest answer is to vithdrav 33 and proceed ahead ia1.!j j. .. ..y . a .m

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Sangmeister: DI would agree vith Mr. Barry's comments on

that Mr. Speakerp'l: ,'

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jDeuster: 1'Mr. Speaker, I would be perfectly wflling to do ,

whatever makes the Housekhappy. We have tabled the

first 30 Amendments with the feeling that 33 would be '.'.

substituted for them and then al1 the Members will have

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Speaker Mfller: ''AII rights may the Chair onee again say '' , . . ) .this in consultation wfth the Clerk. Because of the .

. .''complfcations involvedy if Mr. Sangmeister would wfthdraw .

31 or 32 and allow 33 to be adoptedy if Mr. Deuster will '

' . ' agreey it could be put on Third kf you would agree to ' ..V.

bring it back to Second and allow you to make an ' ' '

' o 'Amendment that will f1t the Bill as then amended. If '

. that's not agreeable we are gofng to take this Bfll

Out of the record.o ' . '

; Sangmeister: 'RWe1l, I suggest take ft out of the record andz '

. ;.. . let's talk about it.but glve btm the guarantee that

. you wfll come back todays at least one more shot at it.$'

:9 . 'Speaker Mfller: A11 right, now ve will hold thfs Bill. ; . . ) . :. ,.

' then oa .second Reading wit: Amendments 1 through .30 '

. : tabled and that s vhere we stand. We wilt bold the . .

. . , Bill righr thire for the time being. Call the next .

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clerk Selcke: ''nouse Bill 1047. Deuster. aaends the Motor '

.Fue1 àax Law, Second Readfng of the Bi1l. No Commfttee . .

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. ; . ' .' ' 1 ' Amendment s . ' ' . ' . . . . . .

Speaker Mlller: 'HAre there any Amendmedts from the floo*k''

clerk Selckez HAmendment //1: Deuster, amends Eouse Bill '

1047 on page 1. line 18 and so forth.''

Speaker Miller: ''The Gentlemaa from Lake, Mr. Deuster.''

j Deuster: ''Yes, Eouse Bill 1047 provides for, as amended,1 .

this Amendment; provides for a rezional incxease in the

potor fuel tax of one penny and one half and the1

1 v 'Amendment makes that cbange. That s the only, that s

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115.l '1the substance of the Bi11 as it would be wtth this

Amendment adopted.''

speaker Mtller: ''The Gentleman moves the adoption of

Amendment //1. Is there dtscussfon? The Gentleman

from Peoria, Mr. schraeder.''

schraeder: MMr. Speaker: I don't waat to belahor this but

I didn't qufte hear. There is a little bit too much

notse. Nould you pxplain that oneehmore? Bid you

say motor fuel tax fund?n

Deuster: 'lYes, said motor fuel tax fund. There would be

an iacrease in the six counties of northeastern

Illfnofs tha't are in the Chicago metröpolftan area

transportation system of an iacrease of a penny and one

half in that area and that is what Amendment #1 ro' . j p .thïs 3i11 provides.

speaker Miller: HMr. Schraederof'

Schraeder: ''We11, I hate' to speak against the Sponsor of

this Ameadment but it seems to me what we are doingp'

we are going to raise the motor fuel tax fund to cover

something and then we are going to take ft out of the

tor fuel tax fund and this is just an open door tomo

start working on tbe motùr fuel tax fund and I don't

think we dare take that chance. I thfnk we better leave

f d alone. So I would ask defeafthe motor fuel tax unof the Asendnentx'f

Speaker Miller: ''Al1 right. the Centleman from Lakey Mr.

Deuster to close the debatez'

Deuster) ''Yesy this is Second Reading and on Third Readfng

Members will bave an opportunity to vote 'yes' or

fno' on this subject. I might fndlcate that there are

other mass transit proposals whfch as amended now

provide for a greater amount than that and I would

simply ask that this Bi11 be put ia this form so thatù

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l on Third Reading it can be considered. It fs partof the financing suggestfon in the Chicago region for

supporting a mass transit system there and I would

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urge that this Amendment be adopted and I thank you l7 ''' .

for your green lights.''

Speaker Miller: nMr. Palmer, the Gentleman from Cook.'e

Palmer: 9'We11, is thisy as I understand, I don't have the

Amendment here. May I tnquire as to when it was

Placed on our desks?î' '

Speaker Miller: îo t's been on the desks for several days.

Mr. Deuster.''

Deuster: HMr. Speaker. I mfght make this suggestion.

A dment //1 was placed on here qufte some time ago. 'men

, However, in order to give the Member adequate opportunity

' to study this, I would suggest that Eouse Bill 1047 '

be taken out of the record-'î ' . ''. . . '

lr t ;Speaker Miller: All right. take it out of the record and

' may 1 ask an inquiry of Mr. Deuster? Would you want .

the same request with Senate Bill or House Bill 1048?9: '.

Deuster: ''I think that would be a good request. That wi11 '

' give every Member a very good opportunity to look these

' Bills over and to give them consideration. I vould ' '

request that 1048 also be taken out of the record. Thank

o u :1 ' ' .. Y' * . . . .

Speaker Miller: HTake Senate Bill 1048 out of the record.

' 'Ca11 the next Billy Mr. Clekk.'î

' Clerk Selckez HHouse Bill 1209. Schlfckman: amends the '. : ' ,Metropolitan Transft Authority Actp Second Reading of

' the 5i11. onemcommittee Amendment amends House Bill. :. '

7 ' 1209 on page 4, line 22 and se forth.'' .

Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Schlickmano'' '

Schlickman: f'Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and

'Members.,éf the House, House Bill 1209 would create the

. Metropolitan Transit Authorfty for the six county

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Cbicago Metropolitan area. With regard to Amendment 71 i)

the proposed reglonal transportation authority cannot:

of coursey rely upon the fair box alone. The experfence

of CTA, the Chicago Translt Authorfty: is sufficient1i

) to support thfs conclusion. But' Qhat the initial and

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subsequent cost of the Metropolftan Transit Authority

will be are uncertain at thfs time. Consequentlys the

funding arrangement must be flexfble. The Legislature

must determine what the minimum requfrements are but

also leave room to spare. Howevery the Legislature,

in my opinion, Mr. Speaker and Members of the Housep

has the additional responsibility of determining the

philosophical basis for the fundingy regardless of theN)amount needed initially ; and subsequently. In determinin

this basfs we must acknowledne the imperfection that

exists in Our present revenue structure. No transportatf n

funding program should compound these imperfections.

For too long Illinois has been dependent upon the

saleseltax. As :as been so often said, it is unquestionab y

a regressive tax, burdensome to th'u poor t>e most.

Illinois' revenue structure is a patchwork of earmarked

funds that too often satisfy special needs and interests

to the detriment of the general welfare and common'

din and government are the most commongood. Fun g

concerns 'relative to the proposed regional'transportation

authority. I can see that they are without detractfng

from other vital matters upon which success is

dependent. With regard to fundingm we must not only '

. take into account our present State revenue structure

and the need for refore.but we must also consider the

oblectives of the proposed regional transportation

system. These objectives are onep an expanded and

improved public transportation system in the northeastern

Illlnois counties area ahd two, discouragement of

vehfcular transportation. Amendmenr //1 increases from

one cent to five cents the motor fuel tax Ievying

authorfty that the Regional Transportation Authority

shall have. The anount available through this increase

could then range from $18:000,000: a 1/2 cent tax to

$180,500,000 through a five cent tax. This is more

from one source than the minimum that is supposedly

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conglomerate suggested by the Transportation Study

Commission. Ey this approach we can not only rafse. I

suffiuient funds inlthe most effective manuer. but we

insure tax reform for citfzens throughout the 1can alsoState and not Just dowastate. Nowy 1et me quotep Nr.

Speaker and Members of the House fn further support

of this Amendment.directly from Governor'ogilvfe's

Transportatioa Task Porce Report. ''Use of motor fuel

tax funds for' alternatfve transit modes represents '

' ion of a p'on-pecuniary benefit of mass . '

: !ap allocat' . . . ' j

èransft which accrue to the motorist. ;he existence of , '

a mass transit systen should provfde the fndividual '

motorfst wfth more road space an4 it hhould reduce ' '1'

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. * J . 1'. wear and tear. upon and hence reduce mainteûance costst . . ' . ' ' '' ' . . . . .

' . . 1for a metropolitan area s highways.thus allowing lower j

. , . j': motor fuel tax in the area than would exfsttrif tbe. . '

highways were more heavily used. In additfon, a mass I.

' .' transit system serves as a Yackup system.when a . I

, . motoristls car breaks down or vhen the weather makes. , . .

. j' autooobile travel impossible.'' The report contfnues, ' I

' efA mctor fuel tax can also be regarded as exantlng a . i' . . . . . l. .

ium from automobile users fn exchange for .1. prem. : . . . . . 1'

' inefffclent use of space by automobiles in areas of ..''

$ ' u intensfve land use. The tax revenue fs then transferred. . ' . . 7. to mass transit patrons who are willing to forego . .)

'the convenience of the automobfle fn favor of a means

. of transportation whfch conserves space for rfderso'' '

Governor Ogilvie's Transportation Task Eorce Report'' ..

concluded by saylng relative to the use of motor fuel.

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' Jtax, ''Finally. an imposttion of a motor fuel tax could 1( ' Ib

e regarded as a penalty payment for the contributiont I

tshould says. Mr. Speakery Memhers of the Rousey for those j

Iwho are falnt hearted regarding givtng to the Xetropolita. I

Translt Authority, MFT tax levying authority up to ftve

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now constdering a four to fkve cent lncrease ln the .

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.i preempted; Mr. speaker and Members of the nouse: IY$ move for the 'adoption of Committee Amendment //1 ro

llouse Bi11 1209 . 'f ' .

t Speaker Miller: DIs there dïscussion? $he Gentleman has

moved for the adoption of Committee àmendment #1. 2he 'l :4 'Gentleman from Cook

. Mr. Palmer. .; V

.' Palmer: ''May I fn'quire, d2. Speakery of the Sponsor of the. t . .. Amendment? Is that five cents a gallon?'' ' ' ' . .'

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Schlickman: 'fFive pennies per gallon up to. that vould be.

, the l fml. t ,'. the maximum . '' .

Palmer: ''Who determines who is to put on the amountee' 'schlfckuan. #êTh& gogerning buard of the Transtt Authority '

. vould have that authoeity as fs true w1th any unit '

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of local government relative to the tax levying authoritythat the Legislature has gfven to it

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Palmer: ''We11y tEat money then would be paid tnto the, into .

'. the moter fdel, general motor fuel tax fund and tben ,

' paid back then to the Autbority

, ls that correct?''' t;e lllickman : ''Yes . '' '

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. Palmer) The questkon Nn my mind. hr. speaker and Members

' ' of the House, is whether or not we caa staud the

possibilitv of an imposftfon of ffve cents intaddfeion

to a1l the o'tber taxes that we pay now'on gaso' Illinoisp '' of course, in th: area that you are tatking about Is. . < . .

. bouaded bv WisAonsin on t%e iorth and lndiana on t:e , .

east. 'In the area of Indlana the, the, Itlinois operator . .

filling station operators are not in really a competitlvesftuation insofar'as they are concerned

. It miqht meanif rhis goes on and this 9i11 passes that you are golng)

,,to put a 1ot of people out of busfness.

Speaker dlller: Hls tbere further dfscusston? The Gentlexanfrom cook, Mr. uilllaa Walsh

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House, I certainly conelr with the remarks of !

Representative Palmer but I would lfke to say generally'

jI am really on the hqrns of a dilemma with respect to

this Amendment because what is does is increase an

already existfng gaéotfne tax in the Bi11. It seems

to me that ff you use a gasoline tax to finance

mass transportatton, then the people who are paying

the tax are receiving benefits in fnverse proportfon

to the amount of money they are paying fn tax. I

suggest to you that the further away people are from' the central city, tbe less benefit they get from a '

, mass transportation authority, consequentlyp the more

. they spend on gasolfne and pay fn gasoline taxes.. I

, canrt vote for this Bi11 at a11 on Third Readfng and

I probably ought to let this Amendment just gltde

through because the Amendment makes it damn near

preposterous. lt is almost equal to''the amount of .'

' the existing State gasoline tax and is really

unconscionable and I don't see how anybody can support

it and'l would ask you to defeat thfs Amendwent and' v,' then defeat t:e B111 on Third Reading. ' , ,

Speaker Miller : ''Al1 right y Mr . Schlf ckman . d id you s

. desire to close the debate?'''

'' e; h Mr S eaker As '. .' 'schl k ckman : . Yes , thank you v ry muc . . p .. . 9 ' . .' '

. I indicated in conclusiony tbis fs a Committee

F Amendment and I do not recall that there was oae '

dissenting votè. Now, if the Gentlemen %ho objected' te this Amendment had listeaed to my commentss they' would bave realized and appreciate that we are talkfng

about givfng to the authorityyrtax levying authority,

' motor fuel tax levyfng authorityp anywbere from 1/2 eent

to five cents depending upon the needs of the'

transportation agency for the netropolitan area of

Chicaso. I also pointed out earller, Mr. Speaker and

Hemberg of the House, that there fs direct pecunlary

benefits in a healthy, viable public transportation

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. . . 4 :system to the automobile user, the user of our

hfg%ways. I'suggest, Mr. speaker and Members of the'; . '

. Housey ff we are to solve this problem that exists,

tbat tbis Bi11 should be amended as I suggested and as. I

k I bave moved for the adoption of thfs Amendment so that

on Third Reading the Members of thfs House wi11 have

the variou's alternatives available from wbich to '

select and pass. I solicit your support of this ' '

ç$ '. Amendment. .

. . '') .. ;'Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman has moved that Commfttee .

//1 be adopted. h11 those in favor say 'aye' ' V'Amendment ,

f ! 'those opposed no . A11 rights Roll Call has been ,. J J, , ' . ' .x

, . ' , . .. (requested. We will have a Roll Call then. Al1 right, ..t .. ' : : ' .'

a11 those in favor of the adoption of Committee ' .. ..1.

Amendment //1 to Genate Bttl 12G9 vill vote 'aye' and ' :

those opposed will vote lnor. I said Senate Bi11. 1 '

correct it to House Bf11. Have al1 voted who wish? '

A11 right: the Gentlenan from Cook, Mr. Mugallan.'' '

Mugalian: ê'Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the .

Housey ve are very fortunate to have this Bill Yefore

us and also the Amendment. Thfs Bill wfll give us aa '

' opportuntty to bave mass transit J.n the Chl.cago area' ' . ! . . .

in the event that we do not reimpose a half cent sales .' h six dounty area. Judging from t%e remarks ''',. tax on t e

' '' that were made earlfer today, it seems that many .

. legislators bave voted previously on the basfs that ' ,

: thev would not reimpose a half cent sales tax. We .: '..

must keep this optfon open to us today and I urge that ' .'' we pass tbls Amendment so that can have a possibility '

of saving mass rransit in the following days to come. .

I urge that you cbange your vote from red to green-tl '' speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Raysonp'' '

' Ravson: ''We11. Mr. Speaker and Members of ehe House. I too'$ '' e * . *' Il 1) echo the sentimencs of the last speaker and the Sponsor I:k . Ii

of this Amendment because at least it fs an honest

hit in Part Some Of the funding Problemsattempt EO

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1.22 . .'' ) lwe have and Mr. Speakerp we have got to win this battle . l

2 .and we might as well start now witb reference to motor

fuel tax funds. Now our bigbways are congestedy our '. '

freeways and interstates are so clogged that ft's

terribly expensive and I suggest that thfs is the kfnd . '

of Amendment we should work for and I hope to have more

to say on this subject later.'l

Speaker Miller: BHave a11 voted who wfsh? Take the'rrecord.

Mr. Clerko, 0n this questioa there are 65 'ayes' and

. 59 , :nays and the Amendment fs adopted. Are there

further Amendments? The Bilt is advanced to the

order of lhird Reading.'' ' '

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bi11 1776. Maragos, a Bill for an '

' A4t to amend the Aeronautics Actp Second Reading of . .

'the Bill. 0ne Committee Amendment to amead Eouse Bill ' .

1776 on page 1. lines 1 and 6 and so fortho''

' Speaker Miller: HThe Gentleman from Cookp Mr. Maragoso''jy !y '.Maragos: Mr. Speaker and Members of the Housey I move for

. .t. the adoptfon of Commfttee Amendment #1 to House Bill '

. 1776. What tbis Amendment does is correccs and takes '

out certain areas ef airports but it does benefft the

' State as a whole and I think we should move for fts '. 6 . ' ' '

adop tion . , . . '- ' . ' ' '

Speaker Miller: Pis there disczssion? The question ism ''. . .. ' .

. shall Amendmeatz'committee Amendmeut #1 be adopted. All I

those in favpr say layeï opposed 'nay'. The i'ayes''.

. 'have it and Committee Avéndment #1 fs adopted. Are

'there further Amendnents? The Bfll ïs advanced to the .' . : . ' . . ' '

Ord er of Thir d Rea d ing . '' '' ' ' '

' clerk Selcke: HRouse Bi11 1820. Eoulihanp creates the .

Chicago Regtonal Transportatfon Authorfty Act, Second j,, .

: . jReading of the Bi11. Two Commlttee Amendments.

Speaker Miller: ''Is Mr. James Hoklfhan on the floor?r'. 1Clerk Seleke: lzommittee Amendment I1k aaeads House Bill 182û :'

jon page 8 by inserting between lines 12 and 13 t%e

folloving, Seetion 6A, use of streets and roads,

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. Clerk Selcke: . w .amends the Highway Code: Second Reading' l of the Bi11. one committee Amendmeat to asend uouse; !

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Bill 1875 on page 2 by inserttng between lfnes' 6 and 7 .

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'k the following and so forth.f' '

Speaker Mlller: ''The Chair recognizes the Gentleman from2, ' .((

'Cook, Mr. Garmisa

.vith respect to Commfttee Amendment.L

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) i f'Mr Chatrmau: Mr. Speiier and Ladies aad

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Garm sa: .

Centlemen of the Housey 'l move for the adoption of V

LAmendment f/1 to House Bi11 18 75 . '' '

' t ..':,. . . ' 'Speaker Miller: ''Is there di

scussion? The Gentleman moves 'r. :i''

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for the immedïàte consideration and adoption of . i' 1 iCommittee Amendmentxl. goes Mr. Barnes care to be X

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recognized: Mr. Barnes.

.. Barnes: H; would appreeiate finding out what Committee '

ù ' .SpeakerrMïller: ''Does the Gentleman from Cook

y Mr. Garmlsapcare to respoadol'

''. Garmisa: MAs soon as I fi

nd the Amendaent. Will you take '''

ft out of the record for a Rinutes Mr. Speaker. 0ne '!

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seeond. '1 got ft here. Ph> Mr. Speaker, this is merely '

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cleaninm up some technical lanxuaqe te the Bi1l and .fn line 7 you are changfng of to or and line 9 you are .

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fnserting after 969, the following as amended, line 1Q .

you are chanéing of to or and line 12 you are inserting '

or after as amended and line 14 you are changlng of to ' ' ,tor. In lfne 32 you are deleti

ng commfssion and . '.,

fnserting fn lieu thereof and. On Page 3, line 6 byehanging tbe to any

. It is merely technical lanyuagey

cleaning up the Bfll.''

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! f ,Speaker Miller: à1l right. the Centleman moves for the Jl

. -,d?L''2. 1 imaedfate consideratfon and adoptïon of committee )1, ( .$ Amendment //1. All those in favor say '

ayev opposed j

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' l 'nayg. The 'ayes? have ft and Committee Amendment #1' !J 'j ïs adopted. Are there further A

mendments? Senate. ( o .: ; -., . . .

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âmendments? zse szz, zs advaneed to t:e orde

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. . * ;Reading of the Bi11. 0ne Committee Amendment amends

House Bill 46, page 1. line 5 by deletfng 100,000 and

so forth-''

Speaker Miller: HThe Gentleman from Cooks Mr. Caldwell.''

caldwell: 'Q move adoptton of the Amendmenty Mr. Speaker.''

Speaker Miller: f#A11 righty the Gentleman moves for the' immediâte consideration and adoptton of Committee

Amendment //1 to House Bill 46. A11 those in favor say

'aye' opposed 'nay'. The layes' have ft and the9 . .?

. Amendment fs adopted. Are there further Amendments?

The Bill is advanced to the order of Third Readingp''

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 152,'Eptonp appropriations for

' Expense Insurance Law Study Commission, Second Reading

. of the Bill. 0nà Committee Amendment amends House Bil1

' 152 page 1, line 5 and so forth.'' . . ' '

Speaker Miller: ''AII right, thetrchàir recognizes the

' . Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Epton, with respect to

S committee Ameadment //1.,' '

Epton: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Rousey

' Committee Amendment f/1 reduced the appropriaton from

the $100,000 requested to $60,000 and reluctantly I .' . . . '

, ' . a s 1': .:tp p r o M a .1 o f r:h e / in endm e n t . ''j k .

Speaker Miller: ''Is there discussion? The Gentleman has

. '

. moved for thlûimmediate consideration and adoption of

. Comuittee Amendment ??1 te House Bill 152. A1l those in

' favor say 'aye' opposed înay'. lhe 'ayes' have it .. :

. and the Amendmeht is adopted. Are there further'

. Amendments? The Bill is advanced to the order of Third

Reading.

Elerk Selcke: HHouse Bill 285, Sharp, appropriatfon for

flood control in Madison County, Second Reading ef the

Bi1l. 0ne Committee Amendment amends House Bill 285

s on page 1. line l'and so forth-'''

.. :#Speaker Miller: The Gentlenan from Madisons Mr. sharp.),L sharp: ''Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. Commtttee

Amendment //1 simply amends House Bi11 285. It is no

.' , ':#. kr's G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Y? ct;u-ë c.T> LC %;J , - 't s'ravs os I uulaols. I è2.'s!n. .'llk!- . .: . . IF ih = # ' H D L!S E o F H KP#? E SE N TA Tl V E5 '

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' longer an appropriatlons Bi11. The appropriation was '

taken out and put in another House Bi11. 733 mafnly '

. beeause of the substantive matter along vfth

appropriations was not allowed and so the apprepriationy

$20.000 approprfatlon vas meved from House B111 285 to '

House Bill 733 and I would like to move for Tts

' àdootton .'''

Ypeaker Miller: I'AII right, is there discussion? The

Gentleman moves for the lmmediate consfderation and. r p . .adoption of Comnittee Amendment #1 to House Bill 285. '

Al1 those in favor say 'ayel opposed 'nay'. Thes#ayes'

' have it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there ' '

further Amendments? The Bill is advanced to the order ' '

7 0f Tbird Reading .'' ' ' '

Clerk Selcke: ''House Btll 418, Taylor. appropriatioa for ' 1. . 4 . :

' a work study program for high school students, Second

,g . 'Reading of the Bill. ' One Committee Amendment to amend

' ' House Bf11 4l8 on page ly Sectfon 1 by strfkfng a

. ' Committee and insertfng in lfeu thereofe..'' '

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Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Cook: Mr. Taylor.''

Taylor: ..''Mr. Speaker. Lâdies and Gentlemen of the House, ..

' T ' '.

' committee Amendment //1 to House Bill 418 simply

reduced the approprfation by $7:900.000. I move for

t:e adoptton of Committee Amendment f/1 to House Bill;' . . .

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speaker Miller: 'Q s there dfscussfen? The Gentleaan has) ' .

. moved for the tmmediate consideration and adoptioa of '..' ' I

' . . . .

' .'' 'cemmittee Amendnent #1 te House B1l1'418. '' All those

. . ! .. , ..f'' in favor say 'aye' opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have tt

! ' ' - ' ' '

and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further

Amendments? The Bill is advanced to the order of: ' Third Reading.'') . .j . '.

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 439: Sheap approprfatien for

(' , flood control, Second Reading of the Bi11. 0ne

Commit tee Amendment to amend Rouse Bill 439 p page 1

' and so forth.''e: I

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y28.1 I'îThe Gentleéan froœ Cookp Mr. Shea with $' Speaker Miller:

$j ii ' committee Amendment

-''. respect to

Shea: 'îI move for the adoption of Committee Amendment #1.Ij '! - .' 'It reduces this appropriation by about $3,000y000.!

Speaker Miller: f'Is there discussion? The Centleman moves

for the immediate consideration and adoption of

committee Amendment f/1 to House Btl1 439. A11 thosek .

' in favor say 'aye' opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have

. ; .

it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further

Amendments? The Bill is advanced to the order of: . J 'lhird Reading.'

clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 484. Shea, appropriation for a .

' Local Government Tax Study Commission. Second Readtng

of the Bil1. One Committee Amendment to amend Hôuse

Bill 484 on page lyand so forth.'' .

. Speaker Miller: 'fThe Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Sheae''

Shea: ''This reduces the appropriatfon for the Property

Tax Study Commisston from $100,000 to $20,000.11' speaker Miller: ''Is there discussion? . A11 right. the

Gentleman moves for the lmmedïate considerationladd

d tion of committee Amenàment //1. A11 those in 'a opf f ' v , ' . itfavor say ave

. opposed nay .,.. Tbe ayes bave .

a and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further

Amendments? The Bfll fs advanced to the order of .' Third Reading.'' ' '.

'' i11 608 Redmond appropriation forClerk Selcke: Rouse B s s

expense in Environmental Protection Agency, Second

. ' Readfng of the Bi11. 0ne Committee Amendment ameads '

nouse Bill 608 on page l by deleting lines 9 through1

. 34 and so forth.'' ' .

speaker Miller: f'Is Mr. Redmond on the floor? The Gentleman

from DuFage. Mr. Redmond. Mr. Redmondy this fs your;

Redmond: HMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housem

this is being handled by Representative Calvo and

! quite frankly, I can't imagine why that Amendment would

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be identified with me.'' ' .

Speaker Miller: HWe11 it appears as a Committee Amendment.#

Mr. Redmond, it appears as a Committee Amendment to

House Bill 608.:'

Redmond: ''But 1 am not a Member of the Appropriations

Committee. What in the world weuld I be puttlng an

Amendment'on it for?'' .

Speaker Miller: HWe11, Mr. Redmondy ohtthe calendar your . '

name appears as a Sponso; Of House Bi11 608.*'; .

. . : 'Redmond: HAccording to the synopsis and digests Mr. Calvo

.is the House Sponsor of 608.'1 . '

Clerk Seleke: NThe Sponsor of this Amendment and appropriatio s !

was Mr. Ralph Dunn. However. it is a Committee

A d t n . ' .m e n m e n . . . . . .

Redmond: HI coudnlt fmagfne ft .as my Amendment because I

am nOt On that Comklttee and I don't have anything to i

do with this Bill so...H ' .'

5: eaketeNiller : ''.ù 1Wè11+1CMr ;;'. Calvô .) is ' on' . thé.n. f loor.'now . ' ''. Perhaps he can clear this up. Mr. Calvos we are

referring to House Bill 608 and the Bi11 has been read :

a second time and the discussion is on the Committee . - i'

L'Amendment //1 but ftrst. Qhe Gentleman from Cook. Mr. .. ' . . . I

. Lechowicz . '' ' . ' ' :

Lechowfcz: ''Thank yous Mr. Speaker. Commfttee Amendment #1 '. j

is an Appropriations Committee Amendment of a reductiony ' l

? wtotal reduction of $209,32û. It was reviewed ' ' ''

, thoroughly wfth the Sponsor and wfth the agency and . '

they concurred wit: the work of the staff and the . E

Committee and I move for its adoption.'' .

Speaker Miller: ''A1l righty is there dfscussion? The' Centleman has moved for the adoption of Committee

Amendment //1 to House Bill 608. A11 those fn favor 1

say êayeê opposed tnay'. Tbe 'ayes' have it and the

1 I IAkendment is adopted. Are there further Amendments:

Clerk Selcke: HAmendment //2, Barryy amends House Bi1l 658'

j' as ameaded by House Aiendment //1, page 5 of House

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Amendment...'' .

Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Bureaup Mr. Barryo'' .

Barry: ''Mr. speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House:. !

this merely defines alline item of $2,000.000 without

cbanging the amount to make it perfectly clear that Il

that amount ?an be used for eonstruetion grants as

well as for providing funds for planning as was origfnall

'planned by the Department. I really merely redefiied , j

what they intended to dowwith the $2,000.000. I move; ?

its adoption. '

Speaker Miller: HThe Gentleman has offered forwimmediate ''

consideration and adoption of Committee Amendment #2 ''

'to House Bill 608. Is there discussion? A11 those in

favor say laye' opposed 'nayl. The gàyesl. have it .'' . I' . : ,

and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further '

. Amendments? The Bill is advanced to the order of '

' j. Third Reading.'''

.yjClerk Selcke: House Bill, House Bill 632. Harty apprepriatio

for flood control in Nilliamson county, Second Readfng

of the Bi11. No Commfttee Amendmentso'' ' .

Speaker Mtller: HAny Amendments from the floor? The Qfll

' ls dvaneed to tbe ofder of Tht'rd Readfng.ê' .# ,

Clerk Selcke: HHouse Bill 653, Murphy, creates the Chafn'. .

'of Lakes Study Commission. Second Reading of the Bi11.'One Comœittee Amendment amends House Bill 653 page ly

'' line 14 by deleting appointment by the Governor and

f 11 ' .' 'S O O r t h . '

4j ' .Speaker Miller: MrotMurphy, this is the Commfttee Amendment.

' Committee Amendment #l. The Gentleman from Cook Mr. -@

Lechogicz.'' ' '

Lechowicz: .''Yes, Mr. Speaker, this is agafn the appofntment

/ power vbich vfll be rested strictly within the leadershfp

of the General Assembly b0th in the House and the

Senate. It was a Comuittee Amendment and I move for' I

1ts adoptfona''. !Speaker Miller: f'Al1 rfght, the Gentleman has offered and

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131. jI . $1 ' Imoved the adoption of Committee Amdndxent #1 to House i

Bill 653. All those in favor say 'ayev opposed gnay'.' IThe 'ayes' have it and the Amendment fs adoptedoe'

. clerk Selcke: HAmendment //2, soderstroas amends House Bi116 653 on page 1 by deleting line 2 and so forth.''

Speaker Miller: ''AII right. the Gentleman from Lasalles Mr.

soderstrom.''

Soderstrom: HMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

Housey Amendment //2 recreates the Illinois Mfssissippf

Canal and Sinnissippl Lake Commission. It came to

my attention about two weeks ago that this is one of

the Commfssions that have to be recreated in each .

Session of the iegislature. The time was getEin? late

' at that tfme and then I asked Representatfve Murphy'' ' '

if I could amend h1s Bill to include the Illinols ' '

. Mississippi Canal and Sinnissippi Lake Commission and

': ,he told me that I could. 1 have discussed this v1th

Bud Washburn'/ Chairman of the Appropriations Commtttee,with Ted Lechowicz and others and I woùld greatly '

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appreciate this motion, or this Ameadmeat being

adopted.

Soeaker Miller: ''Is t#kere discusszon? Tbe Gentlaman has. ; .! '

' moved for the immedfate consideration and adoption of ' ,

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Committee Amendment #2. A1l those in favor say 'aye'm' opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes' have it. The Amendment fs

adopted. Are there furtber Amendments? The Bill fs'advanced to the order of Thfrd Reâdfng-'' '

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clerk selcke: ''House Bill 654, Murphyp appropriation for .

the Chain of Lakes Study Commissionp Second Reading of

the Bill. 0ne Committee Amendment amends House Bi11'

654 on page 1 line 5 and so forth.''1, 'speaker Mlller: ''The Gentlenan from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz.''

Lehcowicz: HYes. Mr. Speaker, the Committee Amendment'reduces'j* he appro pr iat ion' by $ 5 , 000 and I move f or it s adopt ion .''b t

1 s p e a u e r . M :: 1 t e r : '' z s t h e r e d i s c u s s i o a ? 'r h e G e n t 1 em a n ha s jj.

moved for the immediate consideration and adoption of.-.1:111) .

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Clerk Selcke: ':1'. .

speaker Miller: 'f1? ....1 to House Bill 654. al1 those fn . (

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favor say 'ayed.o.opposed 'nay' the 'ayes' have it and

' f ther Amendments?the Amendment is adopted. Are there ur

The Bf1l is advanced to Third Readfng.''

Cterk Selcke: ''House Bill 744. Waddelly approprfation for

expenses.g...Data lnformatfon Systems Commfssfony Seeond .

Reading of the Bi11. One Committee Amendmentp amends

House Bill 744ah.page 1. line 6 by deletfng 12.500 and fn- .

serting in lieu thereof .....'t ' . .' ' '

Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Kane, Mr. Waddell. .

Waddell: ''Mr. Speaker aud Ladies and Gentlemen of the Eousep I

. the....ah...Amendment reduces the amount and even though

tlle reduction is well intended as far as the Committee ie'concerned 1 will go along with it but I would like te ' !

explaln the fact that the reduction vas to the fact that '

we have had some economies as instftuted here vitbin .

i d 'the S tat e Government as f ar as print ng was eoncerne$ .

and it really does aot reflect a true eoncern but I would .

. approve the adopiion.''' '' k ' i t 1he Gentleman movesSpeaker Miller: fs there iscuss on

' for the immediate consideration and adoption of Com-.. k

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mittee Amendment #1 to House Bi11 744. Al1 those in 7

favor say 'aye'./.vopposed 'nay'y t:e 'ayes' hage ft'....

and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further Ameud-

ments? The Bfll fs advanced to the order of Thftd Read-

ing. ' ' .

Clùrk Selckez ''House Bi11 7731 Matijevfeh'm appropriation to

to the crand Jury Study Commission. Second Reading of

the Biil. No Committee Amendmentso'?

Speaker Miller: nIs tbere further àmeadments? The Bill is!

advanced to the order of Ihrid Reading.''

Clerk Selcke: HHouse Bi11 798. Schisler. appropriation expeuse

to the Department'of Ageiculture. Second Reading of the

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Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Schisler requests this be taken out of

the record.l'

Clerk Selcke: ''We passed ....ah...moved it to Thfrd..eHouse

Bill 9.....wait a minute you gotta go aecordfng to the

Roll Call.e.eHouse Bi11 1041, Boylep appropriation funds

to the Department of Transportatfony Second Readfpg of

the Bi11, no Committee Amèndmentsp''

Speaker Miller: ''I just saw him. Are there any Amendmeats

from the Floor? The Bill is advanced to the order of

Third Reading.''

Clerk Selcke: PHouse Bill 1065: Carter. appropriation expenses

for the H#plrkension Study Commissfony Second Reading of

the Bf11. Two Commfttee Améndments.o...Amendment #1

amends Eouse Bill 1065 page lp line 5 by deleting

Hypertension Study Commission and inserting in lieu

tbereof the following, Hypertension Study and Advisory

Commission and so fortho''

Speaker Miller: 'eThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz.'''

99 A dmaat #y cyarifiesLechovicz: Yes Mr. Speaker, Committee men#

'the tftle and ft a/so reduce: ...ah....the approprlatfon

from $500,000 to $20/000 and I move for its adoption.oo .

Maybe that's Amendment #2, I#m not sure.e'

' Clerk qselcke: HHe moved pv.the adoption of Commfttee Améndment

# l . ''k '' Speaker Miller: ''A1l rightp is there dfscussionr The Gentle-

' h imm'ediite consideration andman has moved foc t e

adèptfon of Comuittee Amenduent #l. A1l rlàht the

Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Douglas.l?

nouglas: ''A question of the Sponsor. Iedy uhat ...w:at xfll

$20.000 do? It seems to me from the hearings weVve

,' held on that.- that the $500.000 would have been a snallamount for What the intention of the Bill was.''

' Lechowicz: ''uell I....ia response to t:e question. this ls

a Commissiony we're not talking about the Department of

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Public Healthfs budget. It is the Commissfon that is

starting the funding for the first year and we could not

' see any Justification for the $500,000 expenditure on a, . I

Commfssion in one year and the Sponsor agreed to the V

d c t iOn . 33 ' 'r e u

11 ' .Douglas: Was this a separate Commission completelyy unrelated

to the Department of Public Eealth?'l .

Lechowicz: 'êYes....yesv it iszê '

,1 fj 'Speaker Miller: ' All rig:t, t e Gentleman has moved for the. . ' . ' '

. adoption of Cpmmittee Amèndment //1. A11 those fn favor. .

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. , j ., j ua jayes' have it. Committe 1SaX aye @*+@OPPOSed Way yr t

. $ . ;. . . , . .' .. ' Amendment IIk is adopted.'' ' ' ' ' ' '2'. ' * ; . .

Clerk selcke: ''Committee Amendment #z'amends House Bf11 1065: . . . . . j,

'. on page 1, line 5 by deleting 30 and iuserttpg in lieu . '

. ' ' . . '' ez ike :r e t! f ; 2 0 . '' ' . . '

Speaker Miller: HThe Gentleman from Cook. Mr. Lechowfcz.''

v, 'techowicz: Yes, Mr. Speaker, agafn upon reflection. the

first Amendment reduces to 30 the .....upon further re- i. . '

jvfev the Sponsor agreed to a $20.000 approprfaefln, I

' move for its adoption.'' .

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Speaker Miller: HIs there further discussfon? The Gentleman

moves for the immediate adoption of Committee Amendment I. !

. #2s a11 those in favor say raye'. opposed enayî. and the' '

.'aves' have lt- - --and the Amendment ls adopted. Are

there further Amendments? The Bill is advanced to the:'

order of Third Reading.'' '

' j v' ; 'Clerk elcke: House Bf11 1110, Tom Miller: ..omake aa

' appropriation to tbe Little Calumet Rïver Flood Coordfn-

. atfng Commfssions Second Reading of'the Billy no Com-

mittee xaendments.'' '

Speaker Miller: ê'Are there àny Amendments from the Floor? Th

Bi11 is advanced to the order of Third Readfng.''

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l Clerk Selcke: ''House Bi11 1157, Washington. appropriation ...q 'jehe Huœan Rïghts and Lfbertfes Commfssfon, Second Readfng

of tbe Bi11. No committee Amendments.l'

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:Speaker Miller: nAre there any Amendments from the Eloor?

The Bill is advanced to the order of Thfrd Reading.''. , . .

' , . . .''B itll 1274 a Bill for an Act making 'anClerk Selekez ouse ,

appropriation to Township Government Laws Commfssfon .#

Second Reading of' the Bi11. No Committee Amend...... ,

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. . . .one Committee Axendment. Amends Rouse Bill 1274@ I. . i

Ipage 1, by deleting lïnes 8 and 9 and inserting fn lieu j

thereof the following and so forth.''

. ' LJ . 'Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Knoxp Mr. McMaster.î'

' McMasàer: ''I9m sorryp I don't remember the Committee Amendment. . . . 1. '' ' .. . ' ..

. ' 1. , E. ' will you go ahead and read it....ah.....Fred?

J ; ' ' k ' ' ' '1 . . s ' . '' . Clerk Selcke: Ttet Ted do ït.....ah...Ea...Ha...Ah...here fs. . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . : . .1 t . . . .'

. :he Amendment. Amends House Bili 1274, paae 1p by delet- ' .. . ,, . . : ' . . . ë . . $. p 4 . . :' ing ltnes 8 and 9 and inserting in lieu thereof the follo - @

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' ' . 'fng. Section 2. no part of the approprfatfon made fn '

Sectfon l of ihis Act shall be expended untfl t%e .

, - : ! . . . : J . . 1 . .. 'statements are received in the Legislative Council: . !

iegislative Reference Bureau, that these ageneies cannot7 ' . . . ' ' ' ' '

provide the servfces requtred for the purposes ef this

. âfjropriation. section 3. this Act takes effect July 1,' t .

1973, or u'ion its becoming law. whichever is later.'' ,Speaker Miller: ''T:e Gentleman from Cookp

'Mr. Lechowiczo'ê :' . j. . ! . J . I . ; . .Lechowicz: Yess Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen ef the

. ' l . '' Hpusep'this is a: Amendment that >as put on other Com- '

! . . . Jmissions as well, a'sking that the Legfslative Reference

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or the Bureau, if they can't do the vork then we can ex-J 1 . . . '

. pend the moaey. It's beea a normal procedure on other; . .

. ' . . ! .dommissionsv . e . .and I move for fts adoption.'' ,

S eaker Mïller : ''zny diseussion? The Centleman moves f or the i>

immediate consideratfon and adoption of Amendment #l.

A11 those in favor say 'aye'. opposed 'nay'. The 'ayes'

Ihave it and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further hAmendments? The Bi11 ls advanced to the order of Thlrd .

Read ing . 11 .

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l' 1 i,clerk selcke: HHouse Bill 1306, Madigan, a Bf11 for an Act

making an appropriation ....Department of Agrfculture, i

for Chicago Metropolitan Area River Basfn ; Plan. Second '

Reading of the Bill. 0ne Committee Amendment. Amends 'i .

House Bill 1306 page 1 by deleting lines 14 and 15 and

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Speaker Miller: HThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowlczob.. .

Mr Madigan? ....Mr. Lechowidz.'' '

' techowicz: 'lThank'you: Mr. Speaker: the only thingw.wmissing

' fn thià Bill, upon review was aht effectiveudates and

ha t i s chae thf s Anendmen t do es and I move f or 'f tst

. '' d op t ion . '' . ' ' . ' ' .a . .. . .

Speaker Miller: HIs there discpssfon? .The Gentleman has'. . ' .3 . . ' '

.' ' moved for the immediate coasideration and adoptioa of :

' Commiutee Auéndmeut ihl: a11 those in favor say 'aye'a '

. . opposed 'nay'. the layes' have and the Amendmeut is

'. adopted. Are there further Amendments? The Bill fs

. ' advanced to the order of Third Readfng.''

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 1327. a Bill for an Act creating '

the Urban Area Study Commissions defiuing its povers

' .and dutfes, Second Readfng of the Bflls one Committee

. . ' )' . Amendment, amends House B111 1327 paqe 1p line 10 and

: . .. > ' ' . . . . ', .. . so forth. ,

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Speaker 'Miller: HThe Gentleman'from Cook Mr. :zaylor.'' '

Taylor: Mr. Speaker: Ladies and Gentlemea of the Eousey Eouse

Bfll 1327 merely brings this study Committee fn complianc

' ' . 'wfth the rest of the Commission....by,rgiving t:e rfght .; . . . ' ' '' .

. ' of the Speaker of the House and the Minority Leader and .

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the P/esident of the Senate and the Minority Leader of

Senate the right to appoint fts Members. I move for the

adoption of Comnittee Amendnent //1 to House Bf11 1327.''

Speaker Miller: HIs there discussion? The Gentleman has moved

for tbe fmmediate consideration and adoption of Committee

' Amendment IIk to House Bill 1327. a11 those fn favor say

'ayer, opposed 'nay' the 'ayes' bave it and the Amendmen

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is adopted. Are there further Amendments? The Bill is

advanced to the Order of 'Third Readfng.''

I ' ;clerk selcke: MHouse Bf1l 1328, Taylory approprfation..- .the

Urban Area Study Commission, Seeond Reading of the Btlly

one Committee Amendment, amends House Bf11 1328, page ls

line 5 and so fotthv''

Speaker Miller: HThe Gentleman from Cook. Mr. Taylor.o..'u.''

Taylor : #'Mr . Speaker , Ladies and Gentlemen of the Houses)J .

Committee Amendment #1 to House Bf11 1328 merely re-

duces the appropriation for the Commission from $251000

.to $20,000, I move for the adoption of Committee Amend- '

ment //1 to House Bi11 1328.'' . '

Speaker Mfller: ''Further dfscussfon? The Gentleman has meved

for the immediate consideratfon and adoption of the

' ' committee Amendment //1 to House Bi11 1328, al1 those

' in favor say 'aye' opposed 'nay' and the 'ayes' .

have and the Amendment is adopted. Are there furtheri.

Amendments? The Bill is advaneed to the Order of Third

Reading . '1 . '

Clerk Selcke: ''I had my mind on somethfng else.'' .

''Fre4 dfd you tcke 18i0 out of the record a vhileUnknogn: ,. ji . ..

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clerk 'selcke: ''I don't know. l8....vhat? Yeah......Ah...

,.''' House Bill l458....ah...appropr1ation....to provide for

i the ordinary and coatingent expenseso..Animal Care organ-' ization'study commission, Second Reading of the Bill. '

one Committee Amendment. Amends House Bill 1458, page ls '

line 5 and so forth.''

Speaker Mlller: l'The Centleman' from Cook. Mr. Yourell.''

! '' Yourell: ''Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housey '

: committee Amendment f/1 reduces by 50 percent the approp-

riation for the (unintelligiblelp and I move for thei ,'adoptfon of the Amendment.f! r, a yye centleman moves' Speaker Miller: Is there discussion1'i . for the immediate consideration and adoption of committee

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(êaye' opposed 'nay<w the layes' have it and the Amend- I# . . (* j

', ment is adopted. Are there further Amendments? The '1

Bill fs advanced to the order of Third Readingo'''

'' ' 'Clerk Selcke: House 3iil 1516. Palmers appropriatfon for thej ': Office of the State s Attorney Study Comnis

sion. SecondReadinz of the Bi11. one Committee Amendment. amends

. House 3i11 1516 page ly line 5 and so forth.''

Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Cook, Mr- Palmeroîî '

. 1k Palmer: ''That re. .. . . . .Mr. Speaker and tadies'and Geatlemen of

. ' the Mouse, that reduces theo o .ah...appropriation from '' ,' '

' $25 000 to $20,000 a year-'' ' . ' !, 9

.

Speaker Miller: ''Is there dfseussion? The Gentleman movesfor the immediate consideration and adoption of Com-

' ' mittee Amendment //1 to House Bfll 1516. A11 those fn '

favor say 'aye'p opposed 'nay? tbe 'ayesê kave it and* .

' the Amendment is adopted

. Are there further'kAmendments?

The Bill is advanced to the order of Tblrd Readingo''Clerk Selcke: nEouse Bi11 1528

, Kennedy, creates a Commission. on Laber taws, Second Reading of the Bfll

s one Committee '

Amendment. Amerds Pouse Bitl 1528 on paga 1, lfne 11 b.)''

deleting tbe Governor shallp anG so forth.'ê ' '.

N 'Speaker Mfller: ''The Gentlemaa from Madfsony Mr. Kennedy.'' l'

Kennedy: 'îWe1l. Mr. Speàker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the; ':

Eouse, Eouse Bill 1528 creates the Labot Laws Commission' and there is one Commfttee Améndment

. The Committeeo . . .. . . 1

the Committee Améadment returus the appointment to thePresident of the Seaates the Speaker of the Mousey the

' Mfnority Leader and k.''.. .of the Senate..o.and the Min-

orïty Leader of the House.. . .I respectfully move the'

vjadoption of the Committee Amendment.

speaker Miller: ''Is there discussfon? The Centleman has movedfor Lhe immedfate consfderatfon and ado

ptfon of Committee tLIAmendment //1. A11 those tn favor say 'aye'. opposed 'nayf i

the 'ayes' have it and the Amendmeat is adopted. Are

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there further Amendments? The Bi11 is advanced to the

Order of Third Reading.f' '

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 1529, a Bill for an Act making an

appropriatioa....Labor Laws Commissioa.w.for ordtnary and

contingent expenses, Second Reading of the'Bill. 0ne

Committee'Amendment, amends House Bill 1529. page lp line

5: by deleting 25 and so forth.......Who is 1529î I

don't know. Ceorge look ft up 'in the Dfgesto'' ixj

speaker Miller: ''Who is the Sponsor of this Bill? Mr. Kennedy

Th Gentleman from Madison Mr. Kennedy.''e >

Keanedy: 'IThis is the approp....Mr. Speakery Ladies and !. h

' ' Centlemen of the Housey this is the appropriation for

' thluLabor Laws Commission, ft reduces from 25.000 to

20:000 and I move the adoption of'the Committee Amend- ,' i

,1 ' ' 'ment. .

Speaker Miller: HIs there discussion? The Gentleman moves

for the immediate consideration and adoptfon of Com-

mittee Amendmeqt 11 to Eouse Bill 1529. a11 those in

favor say .'Vaye' and opposedp..ah..'nay' and the 'ayes' '# *

. ' have and the Amendment is adopted. Are there further'

.'.. Amendments? The Bi11s.....the order.o...advar.ced to the

order of Third Reading.'' .

Clerktselcke: ''House Bitl 1609 'Cunningham, appropriatton for ' i. '

'road work in Lawrence County. Second Reading of the Bill.

no Committee Kmendments.'' ' . '

Speaker Xlller: ''Are there any Amendments from the Floor?

The is advanced to the order of Thfrd Reading.'' '

Clerk Selcke: ''Rouse Bill 1621, Cunninghan, approprfatfon'

Department of Transportation Second Reading of the''Blll

no committee Amendments.''

Speaker Mfller: ''Are there any Amendments from the Floor?

The Bill is ordered advanced to the order of Third Read-1

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Clerk Selcke: frHouse Bill 1668, Miller. appropriation Dep-

artment of Transportatlon, Second Reading or the Billx

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no Committee Amendments.'' .

Speaker Miller: ''Are there any Amendments from the Floor? The

Bill is ordered advanced to the order of Third Readfng.''

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 1699, Skinner, .....now where ln '

the Hell is he7 N ' '

Speaker Mfller: ''Mr. Skinner on the Floor? Take it out of !

C 1 k '' . ' 't h e R e (: O r d , M r . e r .

Clerk Selcke: HOkay. House Bill, 1827, Calvo, appropriatfon .' m

g j' for Legislative Advisory Commttteey Second Readipg of '( ' . ' '' the Bfll, no Commïttee Amendmentso'' '

Speaker Miller: Are there any Amendments from the Floor? The - .

Bill is ordered advanced to the order of Third Readfna.''

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 1850, Garmisas amends the Motor. . ' ' j. j' . . . ' . '

Fuel Tax Lawy Second Reading of the Bï11, no Committee ''Amendments. .

Speaker Miller: HAre there any Amendments from the Floor?

. '. The Billuis ordered advanced te the order of Third Read-

E .

ing . '' . .'

IClerk Selcke: ''House Bill 1851. Garmisay amends the State 1i

Ffnance Act, Second Readfng of the Bfll, no Commfttee

. Amendments.'' '

Speaker Ziller: ''Are there any Amendments from the Floor? The. !' ,Bi11 is ordered advanced to the order of Third Reading.'' .

Cterk Seleke: ''Eouse Bill 1852, Garmisas Amends the Civil

Administrative Code, Second Reading of the Bill, no

Committee Amendments.'' .

Speaker Miller: ''Are there àny Amendments from the Floor?'e

Clerk Selcke; nAmendnent //1, Garmfsa, amends House Bill 1852

. ' ' on Page i'yuby striktng line 10 and so forth.''

Speaker Mfller: HThe Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Garmfsa.''

Garmisa: ''Wel1. Mr. Speaker. and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House, with the adoption of Amendment #1 this would make' clear tbat any money put up by the cfty or the countyp

which has already been ..oused for matchfng could not be

used for this soft match agafn. I ask for the adoption

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o f C o mm i t t e e . . . . o f H o u s e . . . . e r . . . . o f F 1 o o r A m e n d m e n t # 1 . ''

1, . !Speaker Mfller: Is there discussion? The Gentleman has moved

for the adoption of Amendment f/1 to House Bfll 1852. a1l

those in favor say îayeg opposed 'aay's the 'ayesl have

it and the Amendment ts adopted. Are there furtherk.

Amendments?''

Clerk Selcke: ''Amendment II? Carmisa. amends House 3il1 1852 o

page 4 by strfking line 10 and so forth-''

' ' Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Cook: Mr. Garmisa. A11. 7. '

r' ' : ' i ht verll lust omit Amendment f/2 because ft seems to,j=, : r g' ' :

. be an fdentical Amendment. So if there fs no further '

' Amendments: this Bi11 is ordered advanced to the Order of '. !

Third Read ing . '' ' . .

' Clerk Selcke; ''one Amendment was all. 1854. Garmisa. 'amends

' the Toll Highway Authority Act Second Readfng of the Bil .

You got any Amendments for this?.....No Comxittee Amend-:r ' '

. ments..... .

Speaker Miller: ''Any Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk Selcke: ''Amendment #1. Garmfsa. amends House Bfll 1854

' . page 1, by deleting line 1 through 6 and inserting in

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' Speaker Miller: HThe Gentleman from Cook Mr. Garmisa/'@ . .

kGarmïsa: ''Now, Mr. Speaker and Ladfes and Gentlemen of theJ

House. Amendment //1 is necessary in order to avoid any

contradiction of the provisions of the total bond reso-

lutionovwvand this is a part of a contract and it can not

' be changed by teg....oLegislation. I urge the adoption

' .. o f Amendmen t # 1 . '' '

Speaker Miller: ''Is there discussion? The Gentleman from .

cook, Mr. Jake Wolf.''

! Wolf: ''I wonder if the Sponsor of that Amendment might ex-.! 2

plain it one more time?''

Garmfsa: ''Not at a11 . .oah- Representative, ah- pthis Amend-!5

) ment is necessary in order to avofd any contradfction ofthe provisions of the Toll Road Bond Resolution which is

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ution. We are now going to make the nïckel referred to

in the.....in the Bill thât' we're proposing here...oah..

so that tt will be a surcharge or a tax..-.wand thfs ,

will then conform with the resolution- ...with the bond :

resolution.''!'

Wolf: HYouVre going to make the increase a sùrcharge ?î'

Garmisa: ''0r a tax.''

Wolf: R'Or a tax ....on the...on the...toll.n

carmisa: ''That is correcte''

Speaker Mfllerz 'lls there further.discussïon? Is there dis- I

cussion..o.ookay, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Lechowicz '' .

'techowicz': ''Yes. Mr. Speaker.....Represeatatfve .Garmfsay how

can we.....has this beea cleared through Chapman and ' . :

Cutler?''

' î ? !#C lear ed througlt who T ed ? 11 ' !Garmlsa : : .. . ,

Lechowicz: ''Chapman and Cutlery the people that approve the

: Bond Resolutions .......in fact the..o.aho...tbey are

' probably the principle bond ...a%..eclearing house'

throughout the ah..-.onaefon and....nov...I Just wanted

to make sure that we don't do anything here that will

leopardize the étatus ol the Bond. Has Chapman and '' ' Cutler recommended that weoo.that we.o..put this '

. Amendment in in Order tO Protect the Bond issueR''

Garmisa: ''We11 Representative Lechowiczy we have not con-> .

sulted'with Chapman and Cutler on this one, however, I

depend upon the reliability of our staff and they tell

me tbat this Amendment is in order.'ê

Lechovlczz 'IWellm mazbe a phone call Monday vould help the

matter out. I9d appreciate it anyway. Just to protect

the present status of the Bond.'?

carmisa: ''We sha11.....ve'11 be happy to phone Chapman andi1

Company and check it out with 'emo''

' Speaker Miller: ''Is tbere further discussion? The Gentleman

from Kane, Mr. Hi11.f'

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Hi1l: 'fI wonder if the Sponsor would yield to a question?''

Speaker Miller: ''Who did you desire to ask the'questfon of>

Mr. Hf11?''

Hi11: HThe Sponsor of the Amendment. '''

2S ker Miller: ''A11 righty Mr. Garmisao.'..m.oGo ahead.'' iPea

Hill: ''If this Amendment fs adoptedm witl this make it legal

then to increase the total fares by five cents of a11i

' the toll gates? ' .

)' ?Garmisaz OThat is correcto''

. ' ' ' '

Hi11: ''In other words, wbere it is twenty cents nowy this ''

' uould make it lpgal to be twenty-five cents?.. . . .And,

. here ft fs thfrty cents it would make it legal for

thfr'ty-f ive c ents ? '' ' ' ' E' . . ' . . .. '

Garmisa: I'Tbat's correct.''. '. '

H411J 'HAndv ïf we donft adopt thïs Amendwent then apparently.

. ' 1: V the Bi1l is not in proper form aad ft wouldn't really I

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mean anythfng?'' .

Garmisa: 'Q f we do not adopt this Amendment the Bill will be

fn a form where we canlnot get the nlckel. If ve.....if'. the wisdom of this Hopse would pass this Bfll fa its

' final form uu....as Amended, we would then be able to get

. tbe nickel. Without the Amendmentp we can not.''. '

. !' iilz têMr. Speaker. I#d like to speak to the Amendmenk.''

Speaker Mfller: ''You may proceed, Sir.''

il1: . ''I think this is 'one Amendment we should defeat. Nowy

leave me explafn vhat thïs fs gofng to do tb.tthe people

that are using the tollwaysh? in the North section of the' State of Illfnois. It's going to force the tollwayl

. . . .

auehorïty t/ fncrease a11 t/ll charges by flve eents. No.

the last time they were increased- . o.rather reduced fn som

areasy in the area that I come from. they were ïncreased

'. and I can recall the howllthat took place at that partïcul r

time....I think that if we would defeat this Amendment to

this piece of Legtslation then it would make the Bill

illegal and consequently the tollway would not be forced t

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. 144. . ' . increase the toll'rates by five cents at every gate fu

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'the state of Illinois where they have toll gates. And. '

1 ' i: you would vote no on this ' ', I would appreciate very much

. , .par ticular Amendmentt:''

speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Kane. Mr. Waddell.''

Waddell: ''Mr. Spéaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housey

I rfse for fts defeat alsom..pbut I would like to make

tion. They pulled a' ruse over the eyes ofone correc' , 1.L .

everybody up in our area by saying that they reduced the.

'r

' rate at the tollgate by five cents. but 1et me tell you '

what thev did. Thev added one more tollnate. .

speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Lechowicz.'' '.

Lechowicz: ''Thank you, Mr. Speakery I am afraid that the

Membersbip is....'' ' . . . . . . '

speaker Miller) ''For what purpose dïd Mr. Garmtsa arise?

Garmfsa: ''Ah...Mr. Speaker I was going to ask that we table .

House Bill 1854.:1 :

speaker Mtllert' ''Table uouse Bitl 1854?....Mr. carmfsap d1d

' I understand? A11 right, the centleman has moved that

House Bill 1854 be tabled. A11 those in favor say eayeêy '

î ' 854 is tabledo'' 'opposëd nay s House Bf11 1

clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 1861. Garmisa, amends the Civil ..

Administrative Code, Second Reading of the''Bil1. No

commfttee Amendments.'' . '

Speaker Millerz ''Are there anybAmendments from the floer? : . .'

' yy . ..

T:e Bil1 ls advanced to the order of Third Reading.

Clerk Selcke) NHouse sfll 1917. Skfnner...A 3111 for an Act

creating an Assessment Equity Study commtasion, second ..

Reading of the Bi11. 0ne Committee Amendment. Amends

House Bi11 1917 by deleting ltnes 21 and 22 and....'')

. ''; .: ''The centleman from Mcnenry, Mr. sktnner-'' 'speaker Mtller: -6 s!1 skinner: ''Mr. speaker this Amendment cbanges the strueture Tli .-:)14 of the commission to have four public Members and three ..'1i$'...;;-: . . Members from eacb side of aisle or each Houses'' b 4': ! , 1l Speaker Miller: 'Is there .discussionz 1he Centleman moves ) .):3) k

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for the immediate consideration and adoption of Committee

Amendment //1. A11 those in favor say 'aye'.o.opposed

Tnay'y the 'ayes' have it and the Amendment is adopted.

' Are there further Amendments?'e

Clerk Selcke: l'Amendment //2, Skinner, amends House Bill 1917

page ly line 6 and 8 by changing 5 and 6 and so fortho''I

Speaker Miller: l'The Gentleman from McHenryy Mr. Skfnnerzê

Skinner: ''I think I've reversed the description. The des-

ckiption I gave for Amendment //l is really for Amendment

#2. May I describe Amendment #1 nowy whfch puts the

authority into it.....what itoo..the basic thing of

wbat it is to do is to restructute the ....''

Speaker Mfller: f'The noise level fs rather high.. .. ?'

Sktnner: 'flt ...astudy that part of the Revenue Act which

relates to assessment administrationoo..''

Speaker Mtller: ''A11 rfght. Is there dfscussfon; The Gentle-

man has moved for the adoption of Amendment //2y al1 those

in favor lg...say 'aye' opposed lnay' the 'ayes' :ave> 9

ft and the Amendment fs adopted. Are there further

Aaendments? The Bill is advaneed to the order of Third

Read f ng . ''t .

Clerk Selcke: NHouse Bf11....ah....1925, Bradley. àpproprfaefo

for expenses...commission on urban education: Second''

Reading of the Bill, no Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Mfller) ''Are therè any Aaendments from the Floor?

The Bi11 is advanced to the order of Thtrd Readiago'l

Clerk Selcke: ''Ah....House Bill 1948, ...w%o's handlfng... . .

is anybody handling ....ah...Wolfpt..a Bill for an Act.

making appropriation.e.sudden tnfant Death Syndrome

Study Commission, Second Reading of the Bi11. No Commttt e

âmendmentszî

speaker Miller: nThls Bili ts beins haudled by Mr. Jake uolf. .iIj and are tbere any committee Amendments? ''&, Clerk Selckez No Commlttee Amendments.; ''' Speaker Miller: nNo Amendments from t:e Floor. Are there

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. . tAmendments from the Floor: Hr. Clerke''

Clerk Selcke: ''Have you got any Floor Amendments for .. .48?

Thank you.''I

' ISpeaker Miller: R'A1l right. uouse Bill 1948 is advanced to i,1

the order of Third Readfug..'...lust a minate now: Mr.' Clerk hold up a mïnutezv..For what purpose does the

Gentleman from Cook Mr. Katz arise?''

Katz: ''A pofnt of Parlfamentary Inquirys Mr. Speaker. As our

11 e B B Wolfe vould sayy 'I'm very pleased to 'co eagu y . .

advfse the Members of the Kouse thaef...ah...Repres- .. ' '

,

. entative B. B. Wolfe wbose Bill we were just coasidering '.. . . . L

11 be wfth u's on Monday and wfll be able to spend a: wi

few hours with us every day next week it is antfcipateds''

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. . . ' ' ; .

. Speaker Miller: 'êThe Chair witt .reeognfze the Gentleman from

Mctean, Hr. Bradley 'because the Chair ïs fnformed that ''

? while we advanced House Bi11 1925 to the order of ThirdI . ' ' ' '

Readlng there was a compaaion Bill. w ooah.mHouse Bill 1926.

Ands in this connection. the Chair will recognize the

centleman from McLean, Mr.'Bradleyo''

.

. Bradley: ''Mr. Speakerp I'd ask leave of the House to . . . .ah.. '

move House 5f11 1926 ....ft's a companfon Bïll to 1925. .:

. . move it to....ah..-Third Reading.w-owitho a .there is no

Amendments that I know ofa'î ' ' % '. '

Speaker Miller: ''AII righty does the Geatleman have leave to

Lconsfder House Bfll 1926 as a compaafcn 5fl1 to House .); ' .

.: Bill 1925....A11 rig%t, heariug no objections, Mr. .' '' Clerk read House Bfll 1926.:' . 'J

' Clerk Selcke: ''House Bilt 1926,..:.1926...a B111 for an Act ' '.1 'creating a Commission on Urban Educatfony deffafng tts .

poWers and dutiesp Second Readfng of the Billy so Com-'

jmittee Amendments.g''

. 1speaker Mlllerz ''Are there any Amendments from the Floor? The

hB111 is advanced to tbe Order of Third ReadfngzêClerk Selcke: 'fThat one 3il1 was tabledy Georgew...Did you $

1get thatl 1854 was tahleds right here....No. we didnêt I

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do anything, just tabled it. They got into an argument

and he safd hell: just table the Bi11. . .. .''

''A11 riéht vhile there fs just a slfght ilSpeaker Miller: ,

pause here, the Chair will recognfze the Gentleman from

' Cooks Mr. Randolph for an announcement. . . .eoncernipg a

Committee.Meetingo'l

Randolphf, HThank you. . . . .ah...''

Speakex Miltext ''We need your attentionl''

)Randolph: ''Thank you. . .ah...Mr. Speaker. may I have the'

attention of the Members of the Revenue Committee? The

Revenue Committee will meet tomorrow morning at 9:30 a.m .

in D-1 to consider one Billy . .House Bill 2002. There'

. will be no notices sent outg. ..so please be present.'

D-1....D-1 at 9:30 tomorrow morningo . gn '

Speaker Mfller: ''For che information of the Members. . .ltls

' my understanding that we are to continue on operatïng

here tonight. don't be lisled by the fact that this

announcement was made. We're not ready'to close down '

' the House and we're going to consfder on here for some'

time yet. so...just so y@u are properly informed.. . .

Al1 righty Ladies and Gentlemen. .. . ofor what purpose

khe Gentleman 'from Cook, Mr. Katz arfsek'' .'

' Katz: ''Mr. Speaker. that Bfll that is scheduled in Revenue is

not in the Digest. would the .o.chairman of the Cocmittee

V lust indicate just briefly what it is. . . .1n case we'd

want to be there when the Bi1l is heards . .''

Speaker Miller: ''You referriag to a Bill in Revenue comaittee?Katz: .'dYes, about which Mr. Randolph said there would be

hearings in the moring. . .lt's a Bill number that is not '

' in the Digest and t:at's why I would like to know what

Zh* Rill iS*..Z% iIiSpeaker Miller: ''Mr. Randolph. ..l belfeve Mr. Randolph will 'I

inform Mr. Katz... . .A11 rigbt, Ladies and Gentlemen. 'i

ah- .speaker Blalr has requested that the next successionIBills be held Just for the time being so Mr

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l 148. llt 1next Bill on the order of call I believe would be after

. 'the Speaker's Bflls would be 1969.9'

Clerk Selcke: OHouse Bi11 1969 Barry....'' 1, I

Speaker Miller: îfls Mr. Barry. .o .e' I

Clerk Selcke: 'Qoby ....here?'' '

speaker Miller: ''Mr. Barry on the floor?''

Clerk Selcke) uYeah....there is a Committee Amendmentoo..here

he comes..m..House Bi11 lg6go..approprfatiohofor the

Valley Regional Pork Distrfcty Second Reading of the

. Bi11....Ah...0ne Committee Amendmenty amendsvNouse Bil1 .' 1969 page 1. by deleting lfnes 6 and 7 and so forth.f'

Speaker Mfller: ''A11 rights the Gentleman from Bureaus Mr. :'. .. .'.' .

Barry...

Barry: HI move the adoption of the Amendment Mr. Speaker and .'

' ' Members of the House. I merely makes ..H Z

speaker Miller: ''Just a minute, it's very noisy in here.. . .

Mr Barry....'' .

Barry: ''It suggests that any appropriatfon actually go to .

the Department of Business and Economfc Development '

. rather than the Port Authority for their handling.'' .

Speakér Miller: Hls there discussion? The Gentleman.op. .the

' . C e n t'l emacr. moves f o $: th e immed f.a t e c fana ide'ra t: io a àhd .

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. 'adoption .of Compittee Amendaent #1. all those in favorN

' ' , I f . A . .. say aye . opposed nay p the ayes have ft and the

. Amendment is adopted. Are there furthervlmendments?'

. The Bi11 is advaneed to'the Order of Thfrd ReadiBgv n . '

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 1973, Rigney, amends Revenue Act

. . Second Reading of the Bill: no Committee Amendments.f'1

Speaker Miller: Are there any Amendments from the Floor?

The Bill ls advanced to the Order of Third Reading.f' '

Clerk Selcke: OHouse Bi11 1977. Barry. Reappropriation to the

. Legislatfve Councfl, Second Reading of the Bfll ao9

* Committee Amendments-l'

speaker Mlller: ''àre there any Amendments fron the Floor?3k

The Bill fs advanced to the Order of Tiird Readingo'e'

c 1er k S e1e ke: ''197 8. Barry , ap prop r iat ion .. .th e c our t of

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claimss Second Reading of the Bill. No Committee

A dments.'' ' lmen' i

Speaker Miller: ''Are there Amendments from the Floor? The .

Bill fs advanced to the order of Thlrd Readfng.'e

Clerk Selcke: HEouse Bill 1933, Yennessey, appropriation e .. .

Flood Control in Lasalle County, Second Reading of the

Billy no Committee Amendments.'l .

Speaker Miller: MAre there any Amendments from the Floor?

The B1ll is advanced to the order of Third Reading. Nowy '

we're to hold House Bill 1985 at the request of the. ' ' ' .1 C . .. . '

j; 1f ' . . .pOnSOr...... ! . .

Clerk Selcke:'. HHouse Bil1....House Bi11 1993...ah. . .Londrigany

appropriation for grants to Springfield Metropolitan

Exposftion Auditorium Autbority....second Reading of the

Bi11. No Commfttee Amendments.'' '

Speaker Miller: ''Are there any Amendments from the Floor?

The Bf11 is ordered advanced to the Order of Third

Reading . '1

' Clerk Selcke: 9'0kay.......'' '

speaker Miller: ''Now, in going over House Bfllss Second

)Readlng there were irtstances where the Sponsor was not

on the Floor. It's the Chair's intention to startk

. çalling from the top of the list, unless I hear ob- .

' jectfons, calliùg'the top of the lfsto..pof those Bills

'that were not acted upon. ' A11 righty the First Bill is

' . House Bill 793, Mr. Schisler destre that Bi11 called

now1.....Take ft out of the record.ev.o'î .

Clerk Selcke: îîHouse Bfll 9331 Ebbesens ...fs he hereoo.r'T

.. Speaker Miller: 'Q don't see the Centleman on the F1oor....

Do you want your Bill called?''

Clerk Selcke: nAn Act making an appropriation to the Depart-

ment of Transportation for emergency Mass Traasportation

toans, Second Readfng of the Bf11. 0ne Committee Amend-

j ment. Amends House Bi1l 933 by deleting everything after'!k the Enacting Clause and so fortho''if . y ..ykr-.-xq ,,**29 A; , i. . - kxm. r , . . .J ï ' 5 -'% - u 't h s 'r ,. 'r u: o e' 1 u u 1 'q o , s . ' . .f ( , ' 7. $è1q--,;;kl!f- . d! . .'

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Speaker Miller: ffA11 rfght, the Chair 'recognizes the

Gentleman from DeKalb, Mr. Ebbesen.''

Ebbesen: '1Mr. Chairman: I would move the adoptfon of. !

1, !Committee Amendment //1.

Speaker Miller: ''AII right, the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. '

Z Y VYCZ O ' 'OC O @ .

jj 'Leèhowfcz: Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen. I would, thfs

is a very serious Amendment. It increases thfs budget>)

by approximately $26,000,000. First of all: it was

said to begtn with requesting $2Qp0GG,GB0. Now we

are talking about $47,000,000, approxfmately $47.000,000. .

It's an Amendment that was tacked on fu therr'tn

Transportation Committee. I trfed to defeat the Bill

in the Appropriations Committee but I thfnk we can

at least make a step in the right direction' ff we would

defeat this Amendment at this tfme and brfng the Bill

back lnto 1ts original bad state of $20.000.000 and i

defeat it on Third Reading as well at $20.000.000. I

would have to strongly encourage the Membership to

seriously consider what we are doing here of requesting

this amopnt of money in this Bfl1. Itîs not fn the

. budget. It's not any type of a bond program that ve

can finance over a number of years. We are talking .

about money that we are taking out of the taxpayers .

of the State of. Illinois, not incorporated within

anyone's regiôhal planning'areap not incorporated wfth

any good thoughty good conscienee. I think tt's a

bad Amendment. It should be defeated.''

speaker Miller: HIs there further discussion?''

Ebbesen: ''Mr. Chalrman-'''

speaker Mtller: ''Mr. Ebbesen.'' ;

Ebbesen: ''I would like to take this out of the record until

I get a chance to talk to the other side, please.''

speaker Miller: ''A11 right, take thls Bill out of t:e

( Irecord. A11 rtght, it is the Chair s understanding

that Mr. Deuster's Bills or Amendments are not here

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)yet so we will hold those out of the reeord. Mr. Tuerky

do you desire 1611? A11 right, read Mouse Bill 1611.$1

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bfll 1611: Tuerk, appropriatioa for I

payment of certain Deputy Coroners, Second Readfng of

the Bi11. 0ne Committee Amendment amends House Bill .

1611 on page 1, line 5 and so forth.''

Speaker Miller: ''AII right: the Chair recognizes the

Gentleman from Peoria, Mr. Tuerk.'' ' '

Tuerk: OMr. Speaker and Membeqs of the House, this Amendment .

to 1611 reduces the appropriation from $72,000 to ' .

$9.600. I would move for its adoption.'' .

jf . 'Speaker Miller: Is there discussion? Al1 rfghts the

Gentleman moves for the immediate consideration and

adoptfon of Committee Amendment #1 to House Bill 1611.

A11 those fn favor say faye', opposed 'nay'p the fiyes'

have ît and the Amendment fs adopted.. Are there further

Amendments: Ihe Bill is advanced to the order of

T%ird Reading. A11 right, Mr. Clerkm read House Bill

1 6 9 9 '' '

Clerk Selcke: ''House Bill 1699, Skinner, a Bill for an Act

to amend the Revenue Acts Second Reading of the Bi11.

0ne Conmittee Amendmcnt amenda House sil! 1699 on page

2, line 29 and so forth.n

Speaker Miller: ''AII right, the Chair recognfzes the

Gentleman from McHenry, Mr. Skinnero''

Skinner: ''Mr. Speakery Mr. Speaker, this Committee Amendment

takes out three wordsp or de facto and it does so in

order to make the Bill constitutfonal and I move the

d tion of the Amendment.'' 'a op .

Speaker Miller: ''Is there discussion? The Gentleman hàs

moved for immediate consideration and adoption of '

Committee Amendment //1. A11 those in favor say 'aye'y

d ' ' Tbe 'ayesl have ft and the Amendment is 1; oppose nay . .

adopted. Are there further Amendments? The Bfll is

advanced to the order of Third Reading. Mr. Washburn.'' !. i

uashburn : ''As everyone knows . I think > Mr . Telcser is absent

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J;vse out of the record. Mr. Tuerk,'' l -'f ' ( '$ t t ! l!- 1, I 1 ' , :yet so We W jj rtght

, read Rouse Bill 1611./ . ) !I .ff . II

do you desirll y6jI., Tuerk, approprfation forj 1 f '1 4 $', 1..1 (. ! i t l 1

. .Clerk Selcke: , ufly coronersy Seeond Reading of> .' j?I i t /l i ll @ Tpayment Of t*D' Amendment amends House BillI l l V it' 1 ) 1 t $ C1 î 'I i l

.), I l i , ,the Bi1l. t , aud so forth..1 )$l l t 'I I1611 on page ole chair recognfzes the.

, ,j tb !$ ' ' 'I û l' I lj j fSpeaker Miller: j4r. Tuerk.ê .;/$ ?,t 1 t $ d' . 'I l

centleman frfpli f he nousep this Amendment1/ tz r fs O t( â' /7J

' 1 !' .9 l I 1Tuerk: HMr. Speak/l iation from $72.000 to .pfoprrl91 l h ' ît.l i I 1,to 1611 redtte ' c its adoption./ JJ .$ il 1 l f î/ pI I$

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Gentleman mo épnandment //1 to House Bill 1611.i tl *I i i 'fl / l i l ! 'adoption of t. f e' opposed 'aay' the 'iyes', ay , yi .' f ;/'1 j tp ' ' ' hf !

A1l those ïn lt is adopted. . Are'there furtherq#*'..h ; i/1 bih! t i 1have it and d' advanced to the order of. j y j. sj$ $ .//? ) I 9,1Amendnents? ' J)c, Mr. Clerk, read House Bill/.' lr J4:. ;!k $ j

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#j1699. t).)9v skinner. a Bill for an lct/. jj j h $. ,, I!o 4/ ?? à;Clerk Selcke: 0.u second Reading of the Bi11./;: .l..

,,: pj i! tf/ 11 6d iI House B1l1 1699 on pageto amend the . srylends! .' / l / -lilt$ !Il 11 ih h?

,1 .0ne Committe: /; ? lp . .' j $1;11,,1 .2, line 29 atl pne chair recognizes the. '

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.qt ./à ! l f .. . .gpeaker Miller: yr. skinner./ .' / l '': 1) x'hhk .). I îGentleman fr//lp . k this Committee Amendment .hllea erp

%h'v, .,,, j> i? '' 'Skinner: Mr

. Spe og de facto and it does so in. . I i î # ?. j j, yN .; ); 1takes out th/? titutional and I move the. j j / : (J n s. ?$ '# 1, ., . $, t t iorder to make n ''

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Committee Am* s: have it and the Amendment ist , t / t''f Ij k b'. $ .f opposed 'nay- jzner Amendments? Tbe Bill is: j j j jj

y j y y , y % . y ,adopted. Ar' ; Thtrd Reading. Nr. Washburn. Et ' l l I' l 1 î % '.i ..1 / 9 ''advanced to I thinks Mr. Telcser is absent, l t f '' / 1 #ë

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,v ja Committee Amendnent on 1918. House Bill 1918. I

Speaker Miller: ''Are you in a positfon as Commfttee Chafrman

to move the adoption?''

Washburnl ''Yes: Mr. Speakery I would move for the adoption .o.'ê

Speaker Miller: î'Just a moment: theny we havengt read the

Bill yet.g'

Clerk Selcke: HHouse Bï11 1918, a Bfll for an Act to make

an approprïation to the Department of Local GovernmentAffairs, Second Reading of the Bf11

. 0ae Coaaittee

Amendment tamends House Bill 1918 on page 1, line 8

after State and so fort:.''

' ' .

Speaker Miller: DThe Centleman from Grundy, Mr. Washburn.''Washburn: ''Yes, thank you

, Mr. Speaker and'Ladies and

Gentlumerz of the House. I do move for the adoption of

Amendment //1 to House Bill 1918 which nerely insertsthe word State and words as progided in Section 2

,

words as amended some correctfve language and I move

for its adoption.'' '

Speaker Millerl ''Is there dfscussion? The Gentleman from

Cook Mr. Lechowicz.l' . '

Lechowfcz: HMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemea ef the House,I sat in on &hat Approprtations Committee and Bud, 1.

would hope we would take this out of the record

momentarfly because to my recollection, I couldn't

remember the Amendment and I donlt have ft fn our filehere. I know I opposed the Bfll fn'commfttee butwqwê'

Waàhburn: ''I can read you the Amendment. It's short, ledyif you want me to. All right, Mr. Clerky would you like

to read the Amendment? It's short.''

Speaker Miller: ''W1ll the Clerk please read the Amendment?''

Clerk Selcke: ffAmendment #1 to amend House Bill 1918 on page

1, line 8 after State by fnserting the following as

provided in Seetion 2 and on pase 1: line 16 by

' deleting as amended and inserting in lieu thereof the

folloving, as amended but such dispersement by the'-e'ar; K . GENERAL ASSEMBLYr 1 q. q.t

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Department shall not exceed 25Z of the amount pafd

to such mùnicfpalfty or county under that Actol'

Speaker Mfller: ''The Gentleman from Cook: Mr. Lechowicz.''

Lechowicz: ''Yes: Mr. Speakery I was woadering how the 25Z

was derived at?''

Speaker Mfller: HCould Mr. Washburn enlighten us or shall we I', 1take thfs out of the record? l

W hburn: 'IWe11 I am advised that ft was because the . las y

1Chïcago school dfstrfct'/has about 25Z of the studentswhich, a percentage, it vas given to the Sponsor bythe OSPI and the School Problems Commfssfon accordfng

to my analysfs here-l' '

Lekhowicz: ''We11, I thought that was true on another Bill

that we had in Committee but I don't thfnk thfs Bfll

relaces to :he same Subject matterz' '

Washburn: #'We11, why don't you take it out of the recordz'lSpeaker Miller: 'lLetls take this out of the r

ecord for thetfme belng and perhaps he can get squared away. As

long as we are paused here just a momenty the Chafrman

of the Appropriatfon Committee has an important

announcement and we wfll need the attentfon of the

Memteusy so the Chair wilk recognize the Chairman ofthe Apptopriation Committee

, the Gentleman from Grundy,Mr. kashburn. ''

Washburn: ''Tbank you, very muchy Mr. Speaker and Ladfes and

Gentlemen of the House. First: the Appropriations

Commfteee vfl1 meet tomorrow mornfng at 8 oêclock in .

Room 12. There will be an Appropriatlons Committee

meettng at 8 o'clock tomorrow morning in Room 212. Now

I vould lfke to, oh before I suspend the Rulesp perhapsit would be well if we have a moment

, because this

meeting has been called just recently, wfth your ' j

permlsslon, I vould lfke to read off the names of

Sponsors who witl have Btlls posted for tomorrow and

I. 1they are uashington

, Walters > Terzich p Giorgi y Madigan yLeinenveber > Harr , G .L . HJf f man: Collf ns y Craf g . Deuster :

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Kozubowski. Tbat's it. And Choate. Now. I vould ask '

leave for suspension of Rule 18 so that the following

Bills can be heard tomorrow -''

speaker Miller: ''Al1 right, the centleman from cookp Mr.

S V Y X * î SShea: ''Where is the Majorfty Leader. Is he on the floor?''

. fjSpeaker Miller: I thiak, Representative Shea. this meeting

has been discussed with the Majority Leader and he fs

agreeable to the...H . ' '

Shea: ''We11, I just wanted to fnquire from him how many

votes this took.'' . ' '

Washburn: ''No ' I get curious. Some days we are. some days .@

we aren't. I still got a little Bfll I got te get

posted someplace. I thînk that this list has Yeenn

af; r n e(! t(, a nd tlka t: e'h'e ryonc agree s to ;: the mee t 'tng . Now '

I would like to suspend Rule 18 so that t:e following

. Bills can be posted tomorrow. Senate Bill 213. Senate

Bi1l 481, Senate Bi11 665, Senate Bfll 732, Senate

Bill 925, Senate Bill 938. I would ask leave to . suspend Rule 18 so t:at those Bills can be postedw''

Speaker Miller: ''A1l righty Mr. Washburn has moved that' the provisions o: Rule 18 be suspended so these Bflls

that were referred to can be heard fn AppropriatfonN

Committee tomorrow morning. A11 those in favor wfll

vote 'aye' and opposed 'nay'. This will take 1Q7

votes. Have al1 voted who wish? Kenny Miller laye'.

Take the record, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Ewell 'aye'. 0n thfs

i h re are 125 'ayes' and no 'nays' and the 'quest on t e

Gentleman's motion prevails. Are there oeher motions?

Appears Senate Bill 644 and in thfs connection the

chair recognizes the Lady from Cook: Ms. Catania .''

Catania: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House.

I I would lfke to move to take from the Speaker's table

) Senate Bill 644. I think that many of the Members of'

the House are aware of this Bi11. Tbis fs the Bfll

that provides that tbe supermarkets in the Chicago area

y ' ' k . : Q e 1 G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Y/ F . t;r.py 6 'y'v. 'à svaa.s oe 'uul-ols : I

. . . xv1'p . T, &:z 1,:. . a ouse o e a ees sseslvxv, vss

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shall sell meat after 6 o'clock. Now, as you know

this Bill was heard in the Human Resources Commfttee

a week ago Wednesday and the vote was nine againsts

seven for and I am asking to remove this Bi11 from the

Speakerls table because 1 feel that it is an extremely

inportant Bill to the consumers of the Chfcago area

as well as the farmers: the meat producers of the State

of Illinois and I think it deserves hearing on the

floor of the House and I ask for your favorable support

in giving it that full bearing whfch 1 think is crucfal

to the people of the State of Illinois.'' .

Speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Capuzi.'' '

11 .'Capuzi: Mr. Speaker, Ladfes and Gentlemen of the House,

Senate Bill 644 was heard in the Committee of Human

Re s o ur c e u . Now t h q. a B i 11 , i f yo u p le a s e , ca s d e f ea t; e d

for exactly t*o hours and ft got one of the fairest ,

bearings that any Committee Chairman or any Committee

can give any piece of legislation. Now I am going to

give you a little background on this Bi11. The Lady

from Cook who has moved to take thfs Bill from the

table didnft say that there was another Bi1l identical

to tbis Lhat was sdundly defeated in che Committee of

Làbor and Industrfal Affairs. Nowp the Majority Leader

of this House was the chief Sponsor of this Bill and

I see that he didn't move to take this Bill from the'

table becausefl believe he believes in the Committee '

system and if you vote this Bill up today, it means

that you have no regard at al1 for the Commfttee

system and that we should dfsregard a11 Committees and

just hear a11 these Bills on the floor. Nov, this Bi11

as I stated before, got a very thorough hearingy not

only ln Human Reseurces but tn the Commtttee of Industria

Affairs and I suggest that everyone of you people vote

I I ffnO .

Speaker Miller: . ''A1l right. is there further discussion? The

Gentleman from Moultrfes Mr. Stone.'T

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Stone) Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemeny I have sat

through a lot of Committee meetfngs and I believe that

' j this Bi11 had about as fair a hearing as it would be! possible to give a Bfll and I agree with the Chairman

of the Committee. If you are golng to bring thls

Bill to the floor, then let's do away with Committees

' because they are a 1ot of work. Let's do away vfth

r Committees and hear everytbing fully on the floor.'î

, Speaker Miller: ''AII righty now, as is pursuant to our Rules: ?

, that we established here several days ago or maybe

earlier in this trm, we have recogafzed the Chafrman

of the Commftteey the mfnorfty spokesman and so no* '! . ' .

we w1l1 return to the Lady from Cooks Ms. Catania: to '

close the debatem''

Catania: 'fTbank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. '

I would like to Point out that the Mouse Bfll which I

sponsored was heard fn the Industrlal Affafrs Commfetee.

$ It was not voted down by that Committee. It was sent

to an fnterim study calendar because I felt that that

was where the fazmers who were represented in that

Committee wanted that Bill to :o. Thfs Bills howeverp

' is supported by nany of the Revreseueatfves of the2

meat producers of Illinois in this House and they

would like to see it get a full hearing en the floor

of the House. whtch is partly why I made thfs motion.

I would lfke to pofnt out that the Chicago press felt

that the Committee hearing was not everything that ft

should be. They felt that this Bill needed a larger

audience. 'he Daily News specfffeally pofnted out that

they lawyers who argued part of this ease before the

Supreme Court were brought in from Washington to tell

the Commfttee Members that we don't have a rfght eo

l'egislate in thfs area and the Daily News seemed to feèl

tbat perhaps a larger hearing would be a good idea.

Therefore, I do ask that we move this out onto the

. floor of the House. It needs 89 votes and I hope'that

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Iyou will help me and vote green.fî ! i

Speaker Miller: ''Now in accordance with the Rules, the

Lady has moved to take from the Speaker's table Senate

Bill 644. The question is: shall the Lady's motfon

prevail. This will take 89 votes. A11 those in favor

will vote 'aye' and opposed lnay'. A11 right, the

Chair will recognize the Lady from Dupage to explain

her vote.''

Dyerz HMr. Speaker, I would veryv Ladies and Gentlemen of

the House: I would respectfully lfke to urge fèllow

Members to put a green light on this one to give this

11 a chance to' be ieard on the floor of the House.Bi

I am a Member of the Committee where this was beiag

heard and through a family emergéncys my husband was

in stxrgeryy.l was unable to be present the day that

this was heard. This is my own lisfortune. I fe*l

this is a Bi11 that is fmportant to the housewives a1l

over the State of Illfnofs. It does fnvolve thefr

being able to purchase precut meat and I do think it

should be debated by the full House and I would apprectat

a green light from the fellow Members.''

L speakar M?-lJ.er) HAII rïgbly ti.e Gekatleman frem Ctpok, Mr.

Lundy.''

Lundy: ''Thank youy Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen oft' the House, I like the previous speaker. am a Member of

the Committee which consfdered this Bill and 1 like

the previous speaker: could not be present on the day

that the Bill was considered. I was present al1 that

day in a fenate Commlttee wafting to have a Bill of

mine heard. I would have voted to recommend this Bill

out do pass. It is an enormously important Bill. It

involves a sublect: a practice which places a tremendous

hardship on working women: working men and women for

that matter throughout the Chicago area and I think

it is a Bill that deserves to be heard. I would have

I voted for it in Committee and I urge a green llght to

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get the Bfll out on the floor and let the House consider

it on the merits.''

Speaker Miller: ''AII right, the Gentleman from Cooky Mr. '

Mccourt to explafn h1s voee.''

Mccourt: ''Mr. Speakery I noticed that many of my colleagues '

from downstate donlt seem to realize that this is very

important for the Chtcagoland area. Downstate you

are able to buy meat any time of the day or the evenlng

you care to go to the grocery store. But not so fn the, .t

. Chicagoland area. This is a Bi11 just to give the

9 average vorkfng man a chance to get the normal necessitfe'of life when he buys the other staples and I would '

seriously suggest that you give us a green light.''

Speaker Miller: HHave a11 voted who wfsh? Take the recordp '

Mr . C lerk . 0n '.: thf s , que s t i on f' 'there ar e 4 6 ' ayes ' and

42 'naysf and tbe Lady's motion is lost. Now fs Mru

on the motion, fs Mr. Garmisa on the floor? Mr. Ewel. 1

on the floor? Do yeu desire to make your motlony Mr.

Ekell? ..AII kighty under motions appears Senate Bill

77 and in this connection. the Chàir will reeognize.

the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Ewell, vfth respect to

th is . mo t'to n . '1 .

Ewellt nNo no motion on'77, I am sorry. I am sorryo''

Speaker Mfller: ''Do you want to take that out of the reeord?n

Evell: ''Take thae out of the record. please. On 77. I am . i

11 .Sorry. .'

j,Speaker Miller: And what is your answer with respect to

582?' Would you desire to proceed wfth that: sfre'' .

Ewell: HI would desire to proceéd with 582.11

' Speaker Miller: ''AII right, Senate Bi11 582 with respect

under motions.'' .

Ewell: HNr. Chairmany or Mr. Speaker. Ladfes and Centlemen,

j Senate Bfll 582 was the Bill tbat was to have had the

agreement of b0th sides of the House as I am calltng 1the attentïon to Mr. Walsh, ïf he fs listenfng. It lwas supposed to have had agreement as to b0th sides of

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the House as it was agréed as in the Senate also. This i

Bfll dfd not have an opportunity to be posted because

of an argument and a disagreement that broke out on

the House floor. I would thereby movey in order that

this Bill be given consideration by tbe House, it wouldn'

have a chance to be heardy I ask that the Commfttee

for at least thfs Bi1l which has, but vhieh has

theoretically been agreed upon on b0th sfdes of the

Eousey be discharged from Committee.''

Speaker Miller: ''AII right, does the Committee Chairman care

to respond to Mr. Ewellfs motfon with respect to Senate' Bill 582? The Chair recognfzes the Gentleman from

Cook, Mr. William Walshy the Majority Leadero''

Walsh: HWhat Committee handled that Bill? Wells the

Chairman of Buman Resources is here: Chairman Capuzi.''

Speaker Miller: f'Mr. Capuzi, Mr. Ewell has made a motion

with respect to Senate Bill 582 and as Chafrman of

tbat Committee the Chair desires to recogntze you as

Chafrman of such Committee.l'

Capuzi: ''Wel1 Mr. Speaker, as you know, we had attempted to

move or to suspend the appropriate Rules so t%at this

5f1l could have beer heard last Thurqsday Gn tbe

Committee of Human Resources. But as of yesterday wek

. have completed â1l of our Committee work and I don't

know what the chief Sponsor is attempting to do here

I wasn't at my desk.l'nOW .

Speaker Miller: ''A11 right: the Chair will recognfze Mr.

William Walsh to throw light on thisaî'

ualsh: ''Wel1y Mr. Speaker, I misunderstood the question. I

thought thfs was a motfon to dfscharge a Commfttee and

tn fact it's a motion to suspend the posting Rùle to

have beard in a Committee. This Bill, if you w111...''

Speaker Miller: ''Now: the Chair would like to be properly

informed. The calendar said that the motion is made to

dtscharge Committee.'f

ualsh: f'It is to discharge Committee? It's been heard in

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read ft a ffrst tfme wfthout reference?ll

Ewell; HNop Mr. Walshx I was trying to call your attention

to 1t. This Bill, theoretically, or at least I was

led to believe that it had the support of both sides

of the atsle. There was to be an agreement to allow

thfs Bfll to go to Commfttee but there was a dfspute

that brbke out on the floor in reference to suspending

the Rules. Tbis Bill was caugbt in that web. It never

had a chance to be heard and thereby: I am asking, since

I thought it was an agreed Bi11, I am asking that the

Committee be dfscharged from further consfderatfon sfnce

there ïs no possibilïty of a hearing.'î

Walsh: ''We11, that isn't exactly true. There is a

possibility of a heartng. A Committee can hear the

Bill. So tbat is not a statement of fact and if you

reeall the other day vhen we dfd become fnvolved ïn

a little bït of a hassfe over this and two other

Bills, Representative Tuerk had two Bills that he asked

to have posted in Committee and we needed 107 votes

to get them posted and you folks over there lust

) wouldn't give us the reqnlred number to gét ft up to t

107 votes. So in vïew of thats and unless you havek

ehanged your position with respect to Representative

Tuerk's Bilts 1 really don't see why we should give you '

the vote to discharge the Committee in this instaneea-

But it is not a statement of fact that the Commfttee

cannot hear these Bllls. The Committee can have a

meeting and report these Bills out and ff favorabley

there is sufficient time for them to pass %efore June

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Speaker Miller: ''A11 rtght, the Chafr will recognfze the:

v,' Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shea.j . '4 ,,

Shea: Well, Mr. Speakery the Majority Leader was off the!! floor just a few minutes ago vhen we gave tbe'

!tt Appropriation Committee the 107 votes and T asked about1 .

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161.( . à' l . tthat then. Mr. Walsh, as I explained to you when thfs !

Bfll was called the other dayy thfs fs about as

important a B111 as there can be for the administratlonIbecause it deals pfth the Director of the Department

' . ëof Public Aid. Now if you want to be in t:e posture. I

Isir, if you want to be in the posture of turnfng dovn

. 1the Governor's appôintment to the Department of Publfc

Aid because you won't move a Billy then Mr. Walshy we

will try for the 89 voees and ff you want to hold them

off, then itls your responsibility. sirw'f .

Speaker Miller: ê'The Gentleman from Cook: Mr. Walsh.'' .

4, 'Walsh: In response to that: tt is incredible, it seems to

me# that the Centleman is unable to see the fact here. . I!

He fs either unable or unwilling to see what is at 1atake. Representative Tuerk asked a perfectly reasonable 1

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suspensfon of the Rules the other day and you would net I. I

give them to him. Now, if you will suspend the Rules j'

j. so that Representative Tuerk's Bflla can be heard we. 1

. will suspend the Rules so that this Bill canRvbe heard. IIRepresentative Tuerk fs more fmportant te us thau thfsI

3ïll is to us.'' 1Il Skn eak e'r 16.1 11 ar : .1 â11 r tgh t y t b.e Chai r vf.ll r ec o gltl.z e tll e '

Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Capuzis''. . N I

Capuzi: HMr. Speaker: the Committee on Euman Resources is I

Ia11 complete wtth its vork. We :ave no other Bills.

The only Billsthàtnwoald have to be up now vould be j582. So I don't know whae we can do to hear this B;1l

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jSpeaker Miller: f'For t%e fnformation of the Menbers, the.

' 1Cbair has requested information as to what the Clerk's

. 1record showed as to whether or not this Bïll <as

assigned to Committee or Where the Bill is now. Now III) if Mr

. Shea would like to respond to that, Mr. f%ea?n

Shea: MThfs Bfll cas'assfgned to Human Resources by thel $j Committee on Assignments. After ft was assfgned Mr. j

Capuzi made a request to caive Rule 18. Mr. Walsh

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objected. We couldn't ket the votes. Now there fs

a simple motïon by Mr. Ewell te take it out of Commtttee$

because as Mr. Capuzi saidy the Commfttee Chafrmanp

there are no more Commtttee heariags. So if Mr. WalshI'jwants to let this Bill die and kill one of the. I

. IGovernorgs Departments by not letting them have the iI

, 'î IDirectorp that s fine. I

1Speaker Miller: 1'A11 right, so everyone understands here. l*)the Chalr fs fnformed by the Clerkls office s

o every l

Member understands the situation ef thfs Bill, Senate .1ItBi11 582 was assigned to the Human Resources Committee. I

IIe vas not Posted or there was a motfon made to walve. I

the provisions of Rule 18 vfth respece to posting this I, I

IBill for hearfng. The motion to suspead the provisious )

' iof Rule 18 lost so the Biàl fs sttll fn Commieteev Now. I. .

i$the question befere this House is. Mr. Shea desfre jIrecognition?' Why don't you 1et me state the question I

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jf i r s t ? '' . '

Shea: '1O.K.: I Just would like you to ask or state the day

that that was assfgned tc Coumfttee on.'f

Speaker Mlller: ''To bring some information from the Clerk's' vjoffices does Mr. Walsh desfre recognftfon?

' Watsh: ''We11, I vould Just like to suggest that the Chafrman

of the Human Resources Committee mfght bè'able to '

have a meetfng on Monday and or Tuesday or even

Wednesday and hear this Bfll and report lt out so that

we could act on ft favorably if it so a11 fired good

aa the Assistant Minority seems to thfnk.'l

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y, ,Speaker Miller: The Clerk s offlce fnforms me, Mr. Shea:

that is was asstgaed to the Committee on June 20. Mr.

Sheazl'

Shea: ''@ell here's our problem with the Bi1l and why ue

are asking thig Rouse to move it. This Bill, Mr. Speaker,

11 shut me 0ff lt the Uajoriry Leader wants to and 1ve1let him explafn

. He is gofng Co run the House from down i

t 11 e r e . ''

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Speaker Miller: HFor what pulpose does the Gentleman from '

Cook, Mr. Walsh arise?''

Walsh: HI suggest the Gentleman is completely out of order.

IHe is going tbrough the merits of tbe Bi11. That's not

what we are discussing at all. If we are going to

do that then Representative Tuerk ought to give us the

merits of his Bi11s.''

Speaker Miller: ''We11, the point of order is well taken and

the merits of the Bill are not something that is before

this Eouse at the moment. ''D'That 1 wîll permit you to

do, Mr. Shea. If you want to explain the situationy .

but please don't go into the merits of the Bi1l.''

Shea: HAII right, the Director of the Department of Public

Aid fs now an acting Dfrector. Wfth an agyeemeat with

the Senate qualifications for that office are being'

changed. Until that 3f11 is 1aw ehe covernor cannot

submit the name of that man for Director of the

Department. Wednesday morning is the last day he can

subm it that whfch means if we don't have that Bfll

out of this House by Monday or Tuesday of next week it

is going to be impossible for bim to appoint him. Nowy

if Mr. Walsh wanLs tlca': on hia hartdsy fizze.''

Speaker Miller: ''The Chair recognfzes the Gentleman from%.

Cook, Mr. Walsh.''

ualsh: uuell. then, as I understand it it is entirely up to

me. tet's go on to the next order of businessy Mr.

speaker . ''

Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Walsh, there is a motion before tbe

House and the Chair is ready to Proceed wfth a call on

the motion because the motion vill have to either be

withdrawn or acted upon. Now. does anyone else want

to be> a11 rights the question isy shall the Gentleman's

motfon to discharge a Committee with respect to Senate

Bill 582, shall that motion prevail? A11 those in

favor will vote 'aye' and opposed Rnay' and this will

take 89 votes. Have a11 voted who wish? Bave a11 voted

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wish? The Gentleman from Uniony Mr. Choate.''

Choate: MMr. Speakers I realize that the day is gettiag late.

I realize that maybe 'in the past that some Bills have .1!

hot been posted at the request have Yeen made. But '

there'is a time element and there is a grave danger

in not having this Bill advanced as Representative 1Shea has suggested simply because the appointment of

a Director of a Department that deals yes, even with jthe very livelihood and in some instances, unfortunately,

the very lives, of some of the people of this State are '

at stake and we are talking about the Department of jPublic Aid. The way I understand it# this man's name ' I

must be presented to the Senate by Monday, by Wednesday I

so that Senate Executive Committee can act on the I

confirmation of this man. If the Bill, is not in fact, I. ;

passed by bbth Houses by that timep tEen he canaot II

in fact be considered by the Senate so 1 would urgeIthose of us who are interested in tbe unfortunate. t

peop l e < . o f f '; thi s ;' S ta t é ) za s . I ' ha# e' 1 us t ' s ug g es t ed ; 1: ' ' ,

to consider what we are doing here and I would

certainly suggest that we do allow thfs Bfll to be

advanced to the order of Second Readtng without reference'

tO Conmitteez' ' '

Speaker Miller: T'AII right: have a11 voted who wfsh? Take '

the record: Mr. Cletk. 0n thfs questfon there are 96

fayes' and 2 ênaysC.. For what purpose does the

Gentleman from Cook: Mr. Mann arfse? On thfs questfon

'-,-a' there are 96 layes' and 2 'naysf. Now the Chair vill

recognize the Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Walsh.''

Walsh: 'fbid the Chair rule on the number of voees requfredr'

Speaker Miller: ''The Chalr stated that lt veuld take 89

votes.''

Walsh: ''Geey I hate to do this and I really do, more than

anybody, I reallz do and I von't do it if I can get

assurance from you peeple that you w11l permit Fred

Tuerk to sùspend the Rules and have his Bills heard in

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a Committee, not a Committee discharged but heard in

a Committee. If you will do that I won't ask for a

verification. I am not getting many signs over there

' jthat are very friendly and I therefore request a!

verification.''

Speaker Miller: ''A1l rfghty as long as Mr. Ewell is involved

in this motion. the Chair will recognfze the Centleman

from Cook. Mr. Ewe11.H

Ewell: ''Mr. Speaker, my answer to blackmail of any kind isN)

that 1 will not submit.n

Speaker Mfller) ''AII rfght, Mr. Walsh has requested a

verification of the afffrmatfve Roll.and he has that

rfght. Mr. Ewell.u .;

Ewell: ê'Frior to that could we îave a call of the absentees?l'

Speaker Miller: ''A1l rfght, the Gentleman has requested a

poll of the absentees. He has that right. So Mr.

Clerk, call the names of those who falled to vote on

this motion.'' '

Clàrk Selcke: OArnelly Arrigoa''

Speaker Miller: ''For what purpose does tbe Gentleman from

ktll, Mr. Kempiners arise?n

Kempiners; ''Mr. speaker, do we Eave a quorumz'f

Clerk Selcke: ''Bluthardt. Borchersy Campbell, Catanfay

Clabaughy Collins, Cox, Cunninghamy Day. Deaversp

Duff, Ralph Dunny'R'.L. Dunne, Dyery Eptony Flecks

Friedland, Gibbs, Grfeshefmer, Grotbergy Hirschfeldq

Gene Hoffmaa, Ron Moffmans R. Hollovay. Hudson. '

Hunsfcker, Huskey, Hyde, Dave Jenes. Juckett. Kempiners.

Kent, Klosak, Krtegsmany Lauer, Cefnenveber, MacDonald.

Mahar. McAuliffes McAvoyy Mccormlck, McGrew, Mcdastery

IKenny Mfller: Tom Mfller, Molloy. Neff, North. Patmer.

jPappasa Phflips Peters, Polk, Porter, Randolph, Rtgney:' Rose, Ryan, Schoeberlein. Seveik. Timothy gimms. sutnnery

1Soderstromy Springer, Stiehl, Telcser, Totteny Tuerk.Kaddell. Walla R. uatsb, ualters, Nashburn. J.J. uolf, I

l5 çvB.B. Nolfe, Mr. Speaker.

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Speaker Mùkphy: ''Xepresentative Clabaug: 'no'. The CentlemanI

from unzon, Representative choate-'.

Choate: OJust one point clariffcationy Mr. Speaker, before

we proceed in the matter fn which we are proceeding.

I have just been fnformed by the Democratfc leadership

in the State Senate that this Bill was brought about

because Senator Harrls, the President Pro-Tem is the

one that wanted the Bfll so that be would have an

Opportunity to act on these appointments as far as

the Senate Executive Committee is concerned and for

the information of those vho mfght not want to do thïs

as far as this 3il1 fs concerned, ït only deprives the

Senate of having the prerogative fn the Executive

Committee of acting on these people because they will

be still in the job. They will be only in the posïtion

as an aeting Dlrector rather than befng screen by the

Senate. So there is, as far as I aa concerned, no

great tbing at stake hereo''

Speaker Murphy: î'Is there any further discussion.lor questtons

on this, on the Roll Call? The Centleman from Cook:'do you still wish to verify the Roil? A11 rigbt,

proceed with the verification.?

Clerk Selcke: ''Alsup, Anderson, Barnes. Barryy Beaupre:

Berman, Boylep Bradley. Brandt. Brinkmefery Brummet.

Caldwelly Calvo. Capparelli, Capuzie'?

speaker Murphy: f'Just a moment. For vhat purpose does the

Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Dunnelaeise? Mr. Robert

Dunne.''

Dunne: ''I have never seen a verificatïon yet thfs year where

we dfdn't have a little courtesy. We asked to ratse

the band. Now these guys are hollerlng here every time

tryîng to confuse t:e issue. Canït you stand an honest

verfffcatfon?''

Speaker Miller: ''AII right, may the Chafr say thfs, that we

are on a verificatfon nov and ve surey we Tequest as

usual in thfs House of Representatives that the Members XI

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please be in their seatà and iadicate by standing

near thefr seat or raising tbeir hands. Now, i:does the

Gentleman from Cooks Mr. techowicz, have a point of1order?n

Lechowicz: ''Noy Mr. Speyker, out of due courtesy I yield

to the Majorfty Leader temporarily.n

Speaker Mfller: ''AII rigbt, Mr. Wflliam Walsh.''

Walsh: ''I wonder if we could begin the verification overp''

Speaker Miller: ''Nowy just a moment. There is nofse here

that fs not necessary at a11 and wf11 the Clerk proceed

with the verificatéons the reading of the affirmatlve

Roll and read it slov enough, Mr. Clerk, in fairness

to any Members and will the Members please be fn their

seats?''

Clerk Selcke: 'fAlsup, Anderson.''

Speaker Miller: ''All rigbt, nov what's the trouble novy

Mr. Lechowfcz'/on your point of order? am sorry.''

Lechowicz: f'I really don't ltke to make troubley Mr. speaker.''

Speaker Miller: 'Q am sprry.''

Lechowicz: HI Just want to bring up my point of order as far

as the court has ruled on tbe veriffcatfon.f'

Sp'eaker Milker: ''AII rightz'

Lecbowicz: ''The Clerk stopped and the Gentleman was

recognized. I think he proceeded, not at the request

of the Majorfty Leader he beganua nev verificatfon. I

think that the Rules call for that he proceeds from

where he stoppedofî

Speaker Mfller: f'A11 righty now Mr. Clerk will read the

affirmative Roll. Start wbere you left off when the

fnterruptions were and please don't iaterrupt untiî

the verification. those voting 'aye' have read. Nows

Mr. Dunne. Mr. Duane.''

Dunne; ''Mr. Speaker, vonder before we start if we could get

those guys wbo are sitting a11 over over there who aren't

Members of this House. If they wouid al1 get up and

get of tbe Chairs and get off tbe aisle.n

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Speaker Mtller: NThat is a reasonable request. And. rVve

stated it tkice. that the Members of the Eouse be in

their seats, please honor this request from the Chafr.

Proceed......Nows proceed, Mr . clerkv''

Clerk Selcke: 'êcarters Chapman, Choate, Crafga Davfs, geustery

Diprimay Douglas, Ebbesen, Zvell, Farleyy Fary. Fennessey

Flinay Garmisa, Geo-Karis, Cetty, Gfglfo, Ciorgix Cranata

r Hanahan, Harpstritey Hart, Hflls Jfmmy Holloways p.j . . f .I Houliban, J. Houllhan. Jacobs, Jaffe. Emll Jonesp KatzyI . v Kelly Kennedy, Kosïuskis Kozubowskip Kra'useyKeller. y

Kucbarski, LaFleur, ....'î

Speaker Miller: %'Mr. Clerky the Minority Yeader has requested.

with respect to oae Gentleman who. I see on the Floor.

he'd like to. go back and 1ay dowap Mr. Majorïty Leadery

Mr. Harold Stedelïn is on the Floorp may he have leave

to go back and lay down and not.....so....a11 rizht:

leave is granted, Mr. Stedelfna''

Clerk Selcke: ''Laurino. Lechowiczs Lemkey Leon, Londrigan,

Lundy, Madtgan, Manns Xaragosy Martin, Matijevlchy

Mcclain, Mccourt. Mccah, MûLendon, Mcpartlfn: Merlo,

ê Mugalfan, Murphy: Uardulli, Yatrkcky Pferce, Raztn/ux

Redmondy Sangmeistet, Schisler, Schlfckmanp Schnefdery

Schraeder, Sbarpy S3ea, Ike Sfmsy Stedelfn. Stone. Taylor

Terziohy Thompson, Tfpsword. VonBoeckmans Washingtoup

uiltiams. vourezl- -''I .l speaker Miller: ''Al1 rïght. so that completes rhe readfngt

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.1questfons of the Affirmative Roll? Mr. Wlllïam Walsh.

kalshz ''Represeatative Kidexson....ah...''l ,1S

peaker Millerk Is Representative Merle Anderson on t5el'( Floorz I don'r see htn in hts seato.--ls the ceatleman

on the Floor? Hov is be recordedy Mroclerk.'f

clerk selcke; ''The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye'.''

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. lt 1 !Speaker Miller: NHe is ia his seat.'l

Wal sh : ''Brand t ? '' .

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S eak er Nï1l e r t ''Mr Brand t is tn the c en t e r a f s le . '' ' '. P .

) .walsh: ''Mrs cuapman?'' ') *

Speaker Miller; ''Sbe is in ber seat.'ê Iœ

Ikalsh : ''Douslas ? ''l iISpeaker Miller: 'fMr. nouglas, ...ah...he is not in hfs seat. I

Is Mr. Douglas on the Floor? Eow is he recordedy Mr.

Clerk?''

Clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as votfng 'aye'.''

Speaker Miller: î'Iake him off of the Rollo'f

Walsh: ''Farley?n '

Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Farley. . . . .The Gentleman is not in hfs

seat. Is Mr. Farley on the Floor. Eow is he recorded

. Mr. clerk?''

Clerk Selcke: ''The Geatleman is recorded as voting 'aye#.'?

Speaker Mïller: ''Take htm off of the Ro1l.''

alsh: ''Garmisa?''

Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Garmisa?oo.p .He fs not ia :fs seat. Is

Mr. Garmisa on the Ploor? Hov îs he recorded, Mr. Clerk?

Clerk Selcke: HThe Gentleman is recorded as votsng .'ayeg.''

Speaker Miller: nTake him off of the Ro11.''

ualsh; ''Hanahan?''

speaker Miller: ''Mr. Hanahan is not lu his seat. Is Mr-

Hanahan oa the Floor? How is he recorded, Mr. Clerkr'

clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as votfng 'aye'wl'

Speaker Miller: ''Take h1m off of the Roll. For what purpose

does the Gentleman froa Cooky Mr. Shea. arise?''

Shea: f#Mr. Hanahan and Mr . Barnes are back in the Speaker's

offtcey would you have somlbody ... . . .Just 1et Vem know?''Walsh: 'R ..put êem back on, just let's get on wfth vhat

' do1n:.....'' 1We rei

. Speaker Xlller: ''Just a moment noc: Mr. Farley has returaed to 'l

fe Ithe Floor....put htm back on the Afflrmatfve Rolt.

Dalsh: ''Harpstrtter'

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Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Harpstrite on the Floor? I don't see

him in his seat. How is he recorded, Mr. Clerk?êê

Clerk Selcke: HThe Gentleman is recorded as votfng 'ayed.''

Speaker Miller: f'Take him off of the Ro11.'V

Walsh: ''Ebbesen?'l

Speaker Millerz HIs Mr. Ebbesen on the Floor? I don't see

him in his seat. How is he recorded Mr. Clerk?''

Clerk Selcke: HThe Gentleman is recorded as votfng 'ayè'.''

Speaker Miller: Hlake him off of the Ro11.''

Walsh: ''LaFleur?''

Speaker Miller: nMr. Lafleur.o..on the Floor.o.How fs *e re-

cordedy Mr. Clerk?''

Clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as votfng 'ayef.''

Speaker Miller: Hlake him off of the Ro11.O

Walsh: ''Hartrê

Speaker Miller: ''Hr. Hart....He is not fn his seat. How is

he recordedy Mr. Clerk?ff

clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'ayeVoê'

Speaker Miller: 01 don't see h1m on the Floor. Take him off

of the Ro11.''

Walsh: f'Sasialere.'' .

Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Schisler is in his seat.''

Walsh: HCarter?''

Speaker Miller: '1Mr. Carter....is Mr. Carter on the Floor?...

He has gone to the bospital? Tkat we are sorry about,

Mr. Choate. How is he recorded?''

Clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'ayeV.''

Speaker Mfllerr ''Take h1m off of the Rol1.H

Walsh: ''Ja.......Houlihan?''

speaker Miller: ''James Houlfhani..-..''

Walsh: ''Dan Houlihan?''

Speaker Miller: îfDan Hou1ihan.....both Houlfhans are on the

Flo'or......Who? . - . . .Mr. Katz-..l don't see hiu in his$' t Is Mr. Katz on the Floor? Take him off ok thesea .

record.....Now, just wait a minute.v.vMr. Katz is back1 .

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on the Ploor....Put him back on the Roll. Nowy Mr.

Carmfsa is on the Floor, Mr. C1erk....'' .

iwalsh: ''Keller?'' 1i

Speaker Miller: l'Just a moment. e. .put Mr. Garmisa back on the à;record.. . - oYou asked about Mr. Ke11er....Ke11er....Is

Mr. Keller on the Floor? I don't see tîe Gentlemany how j

tj 'is he recorded?

fr e . .f 'Clerk Selcke: T%e Centleman is recorded as votfng aye . j

1Speaker Mïller: ê'Take him off of the Ro11....êe

## rê lValshz Kelly?

Speaker Mfller: ?#Mr. KeI1y.. .. .He fs not fn hfs seaty ïs Mr. lKelly on the Floor? Hov fs he recorded?''

Clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as veting Vaye'.t' '

Spaaker Mfllcr: l'Take him off ol thè Roll.:'

. hIêalsh ) ''I had !os f nsk; bu t I see lte l.s here . . .Krause ? '' '

' S eaker Mi l ler : ''He is l.n his sea t . ''P

Walsh) ''Lemke ? 1' I

speaker Miller : !5Mr . Lemke? . . . . . . .1Ie is in his seat . . . . State

your poiuty Mr . llill . ''

Hf11: ''Mr . Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Rousep I

wish the Maj ority tead er would give the speech lle gave

' yesterday on holding the workings of the House up. . . .uI

would appreciate hearing that again. . o .l....dilatory

tactics..-'' I

hSpeaker Millerk ''You were not recognized ....that.....for thatm k

Mr. Hi1l...I was tryinz to verify the Affirmative Ro11. . .

Are there further questionsy of the Affirmatfve Rollx Mr.

ualsh? '' . 1!

''Yes....1ots of 'em.ww.Maragosi.. oh! I see Maxazos is 1aish:thereoe.o.Mrs. Martin?''

''Mrs. Martinzv . ..she doesn't appear to be fn Ipeaker Miller::

her seat.--ls the tady on tbe Floor: Hov is she recorded lHr. clerk?'' t

lerk Selcke: ''The Lady is recorded as voting 'ayel.'' I

peaker Miller: 'Q ake her off the Ro11....''

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Walsh: î'Merlo?''

speaker Mfller: #'Mr. Merlo fs...onot fn hfs seatoo ols the

Gentleman on the Floor? Xow is he recorded?''

Clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'ayev.''

Speaker Miller: ''Take him off the Ro11.''

Walsh: ''Ike Simsr'

Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Ike Sims, is not in %is seat. Is he on

the Floor? How is the Centleman recorded. Mr. Clerkr'

Clerk Selcke: l'The Gentleman is recorded as voting 9aye'.9'

Speaker Miller: HTake him off the Ro1l.''

Walsh: ''Murphy?''

Speaker Mfller: ''Who?''

Walshr ''Murphy?''

Speaker Mïller: ''Mr. Murphy on the Floor? He's not in his

seat. Eow is he recordedk''

Clerk Seleke: nThe Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye#.''

Speaker Miller: ''Take him off the Roll. Now Just a momentp

Mr. Clerk. Mr. McGrew has been trying to get my attentio .

How is the Gentleman recorded?''

Clerk Selcke: ''The.o..centleman...is recorded as not voting.''

Speaker Mfller: ''Mr Mccrewy do you care to vote?''

McGrew: ''Uould you record me as 'ayegr'

speaker Mfllerz ''Vote the Gentleman as 'aye'.''

Walshk ''Deuster?''

Speaker Miller: ''Mr. Deuster...he is not in h1s seat. Ee fs

on.sohe is just comfng on the House Floor.''

Walsh: HBermanr'

Speaker Miller; ''Mr. Berman is not in his seat, is the Geutle-

man on the Floor: How is he recordeds Mr. Cterkr'

Clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as voting Tayeê.''

Speaker Mfller: ê'Take him off the Ro11.H

Walsh: #'Flfnn?H

Speaker Mfller: HI don't see Mr. Fllnn ln his seat. is t%e

) Gentleman on the Floor? Bow is he recordedr'11 cleru sezeke: ''The centzeman is recorded as votina 'aye'

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Speaker Miller: ''Take hfm off of the Ro11.''

Walsh: ''Yourell?''

peaker Miller: ''Mr. Yourell is not in his seat. Is Mr. Yourel i1

on the Floor?''

clerk Selcke: î'There he goeso''

clerk Selcke: g'lhe Gentleman is recorded as voting ênoeoê?

Beatty: ''Record me as êayel Sïr.''9

speaker Mfller: ''change the Gentleman from 'no' to 'aye'.''%

Walsh: ''Williausr'

Speaker Miller: ''I don't see Mr. Willlams on the Floor. He is

not in :1s seat. RoW is the Gentleman recorded?''

lerk Selckek ''The Gentleman is recorded as #oting làye#o'''

If . IASpeaker Miller: Take Mr. Williams of1 the Roll.

Walsb: ''VonBoeckman?''

speaker Miller: nMr. VonBoeckman.oo.somebody fs vakipg, but

I ean't see the 6ent1eman.......1n 'h1s seat.....Yesy

Mr. VonBoeckman is ïn his seat.''

Walsh: ''Brinkmeier?''

speaker Mfller: HMr. Brïnkmeier...l don't see the Gentleman

in his seat..v.ls Mr. Brinkmeier on the Floor? How fs

he recorded, Mr. clerkR'' v

Clerk Selcke: ''The Gentleman is recorded as voting 'aye#o''

Speaker Miller: ''Take Mr.Brinkmeier off the Ro11.#'

Walsh: ''Skinner?'e

' clerk Selcke: ''Noe voting....o''

speaker Miller; ''Are there further questionsy Mr. Walshz''

walsh: ''I have no further question. Mr. Speaker.''

1, ' egspeaker Miller: à11 right. give me a count.

clerk Selcke: ''We11: 1et me check it'out...o.'.''

speaker Miller: MNow. just so tbere is no misunderstanding

the Chair is trytng to be fair...-l'm fnformed by the

clerk...tbat Mr. Hanahan vas removed from the Rol1:.'....

and I'm also informed he was down in front...Where's '

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Mr. Hanahan now? No, he was removed prior to that time

and....A11 right, Mr/ Hanahan is on the Eloor, put hfm '.

back on the Ro11.n i

Clerk Selcke: HNo you weren't off..- He's back on....''@

Speaker Miller: 'fA11 right, can you give me a count. Mr. Clerk '

0n this questions there are 81 'aye:' and 2 'nays' and

the Centleman's Motion is lost. The Chair recognizes

the Centleman from Cook, Mr. Willfam Walsho''

Walsb: ''It is our intention to adjourn rfght avays if there

are any announcements.m...committee Chairmeno..o-this .

would be' the appropriate tfme to make them....#'

Speaker Mfller: NAre there an7 announcements'..w..doncernfng...

Committee Chafrmen?..e..The Gentleman from Cook. Mr. '

Ct: 11 ins . htas an announc ement .'' '

4. . 'Colllns: Ah.. . .Yes> Mr. Chairman: Ladies and Gentleman of

the House, the Executive Committee wi11 meet tomorrov

morning at 8:30: in room A-1, this fs a change of our

usual room. we are ia Room A-1 tomorrowo...we'll attempt

to consider the Bills that we were to consider today.''

Speaker Miller: ''A11 right.....Mr. 6o1lins...''

Collins: HHas Rùle 18 been suspendedku.or did....fs the '

motion iu order nowy Mr. Speakerz Mr. Speaker, I would

move that Rule 18 be suspended so that the Bills that '

were posted for today be held 6r heard tomorrov.....''

Speaker Mfller: HAII rfghty are there furthere announcements?

A1l rfght: the Chair recognizes the Centleman from Cooky

Mr. Willfam Walsbo''

Walsh: ''Mr. Speaker. I move tbat the Eouse adjeurn uatil 10

ofclock tomorrow morhing for Regular Sessiono''l' speaker Miller: ''The Gentleman moves that the Rouse stand'

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adjourned ti1 10 o clock tonorrow norning.o.oRegular

' Session . . .A11 those in f avor say ' aye # y opposed 'nay' m

h e ' ayes ' have i t and we ' r e . . . . . the llo us e is adlo uraed 1tj .

t until tomorrow morning.'' I

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Page Tfme Speaker Information

1 Speaker Murphy House in order

1 Reverend Johnson Prayer

1 Speaker Murphy Roll Call

2: 3, 4, 5, 6 Clerk Selcke Messages from Senate.Commlttee Report

6 Speaker Murphy

6 Clerk Selcke Conttnues Comm: ttee Reports

6 Speaker Murphy Iatroductlons & First Readings

7 Clerk Selcke

7 Speaker Murphy Agreed Resolutions

7 Clerk Selcke

7 Speaker Murphy

8 Wm. Walsh

8 Speaker Murphy Resolutions Adopted

8 Clerk Selcke H. R.

8 'Speaker Murphy Consent Ca1endar-2nd Readiag

8 Clerk Selcke

8 Speaker Murphy Third Reading

9 Cperk Selcke S'.B. Third Readfng. Agree'd tfst

10 Speaker Murphy

10 Mahar

10 Speaker Murphy Above Bills

10 Palmer Recorded as 'no' oa SB 161

10 Speaker Murphy Above Bills passed

11 Clerk Selcke S.B. 156. 2nd. No C.A. F1 Amea 1

11 B luthardt in Chéir

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11 E. Jones ; Floor Amendment //1

11 Speaker'Bluthàrdtk 0ut of record

11 Clerk Selcke S.B. 173. 2nd. No Com. Amend.

11 Speaker Blutha/dt lhird Readfng

11 Clerk Selcke S-B. 228. 2nd Reading. No C.A.. . 1

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11 Speaker Bluthardt 3rd Reading ' '


12 Speaker Bluthardt Third Rdading . .

12 Clerk Selcke S.B. 285. 2nd- No Com. Amend. .'

' 12 ' Speaker Bluthardt Thlrd Reading .


12 ' Speaker Rluthardt '. 1.

' 13 Hirschfeld Point of personal privilege '

13 Clerk Selcke Explains absence of painting

13 Speaker Bluthardt (343) Thfrd Readtng.

13 Clerk Selcke . S.B. 353. No C.A. 2nd Reading

. 13 . ''. Speaker Bluthardt Thfrd Reading .

13 : Clerk Selcke S.B. 395. 2nd Reading. No C.A.

' 13 Borehers ' . ' . ' .. '

. 13 . . ' Speaker Bluthardt Out of record

14 . Clerk Selcke S.B. 447. 2nd. No C.A.

14 ' Speaker Bluthardt Ihird Reading. i .

14 . Clerk Selcke Amendment #1

y14 . Speaker Bluthardt ou of record

14 Clerk Selcke S.B. 492. 2nd. No C.A.

14 Speaker Bluthardt Third Reading

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14 Speaker Bluthardt

14 Speaker Shea

14 Clerk Selcke Amendment //1I

14 Speaker Bluthardt ) ' ')

14 Pierce )

15 Pierce Wfthdraws Amendment

15 Speaker Bluthardt Amendment abled

15' Schlickman Request keep on 2nd

15 Speaker Bluthardt) . . ') .

15 'Shea ) No objections '

15 Clerk Selcke S.B. 641. 2nd. No C.A.

15 Speaker Bluthardt ' .

16 . Clerk Selcke Amendment #k - floor

16 J. J. Wotf Not my amendment


16 Hanahan ' Amendment #1' ' 16 Speakar Blllthardt

16 Houlihan Asks for defeatk

16 Speaker Bluthardt '

16 . Skinner ))

17 Hanahan )

17 Speaker Bluthardt Amendment adopted 3rd Reading

17 Clerk o'Brien S.B. 787. 2nd. No C.A.

17 Speaker Bluthardt Third Readingi

17 Clerk o'Brien S.B. 869. 2nd. Ne C.A.

17 Speàker Bluthardt Third Reading

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18 Clerk o'Brien S.B. 871. 2nd. No C.A.

i18 . Speaker Bluthardt Third Reading

18 Clerk O'Brien S.B. 872. 2nd. No C.A.

18 Speaker Bluthardt Third Readinz

18 Clerk OêBrien S.B. 901. 2nd. No C.A. '

18 Speaker Bluthardt Third Reading ' .

19 Clerk O'Brien S.B. 905. 2nd. No C.A. '

19 Speaker Bluthardt -

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' 19 Speaker Bluthardt Amendment adopted. Third Readtnt .j 19 clerk oêBrien S .B. 1179 . 2nd . No C.A.j ''

19 Speaker Bluthardt , 0ut of record '

19 Clerk OgBrien S.B. 1193. 2nd. 1 C.A.

19 Speaker Bluthardt 0ut of record '

19 Lechowicz 1111 handle it.

.r , 19 Speaker Bluthardt# . .y ' - .! T, : .. .,fq(. . ' ,19 Clerk O'Brien S.B. 1193. 2ad. 1 C.A.

. . , . . $19 Speaker Bluthardt

t . . .( ' ''. 19 Lechowicz Amondmept f/1 '

, ' 20 Speaker Bluthardt Amendment adopted. 3rd '

20 . Clerk o'Brien ' S.B. 1179. 2nd. No C.A.

. 20 speaker Bluthardt Third Reading

. ' '. 20 clerk o'Brien S.B. 296. 2nd. 1 C.A.

20 Speaker Bluthardt .

20 Jacobs Amendment ,1


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21 Lechoufcz))

21 Jacobs )

21 Speaker Bluthardt Amendment adopted

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22 Jacobs

22 Speaker Bluthardt Amendment adopted. Third.(Concurrenees)

22 Blair H.B. 634. S.A. ?/2


23 Schlickman


23 Totten Poin/of order

23 Speaker Bluthardt) Limit your remarks)

23: 24 Schlickman )


25 Schli,nklrtaq ))

25. 26 Blair )

25y 26 Speaker Bluthardt

27 Ceo-Karis

27. 28 Speaker Bluthardt

28 Schlickman ))

28 Blair )

28 Hill

28 Blair


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30 Fleck Oppose .


31 Fleck ,

31 Speaker Bluthardt )' )

31 Juckett )

32 Speaker Bluthardt) V)

. 32 Hill )


33 Fleck Continues ,

33 ' Speaker Bluthardt

34 Hyde


34 Hill '

34 speaker Bluthardt

34 Eyde


' 35 Stone

35 ' speaker Bluthardt '

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36 Speaker Blutùardt ) ' '- )

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' 36 Speaker Bluthardt

36 Douglas


37 Murphy Foint of order '

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. 138 Douglas Coneludes remarks


38 ' Deuster '

38 Speaker Btuthardt .

38 Murphy '

39 Speaker Bluthardt ) . ') . . . '

39 Houlihan ) Poiut of order

39 speaker Bluthardt ). ' 5 . J '0 D ster ) ' , '39y 4 eu ,


41 ' Schraeder ' .

41 speaker Bluthardt '. '

41 Barry . ,

42 ' speaker Bluthardt '

42 . Lauer '' 43 Speaker Blutbardt .

43, 44> 45 1 Jfpswurd .

45 speaker Bluthardt '

45 ' ' : 'Simms ' '

' 46 ' ' ' Speaker Bluthardt ) ' .'. ,

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47 X'' Speaker Bluthardt . .

' 47, 48 . Matijevich .

49 ' Speaker Bluthardt

49 Deavers ' .

49 ' speaker Bluthardt

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50 Speaker Blutbardt ))

50, 51 'Redmond )


52 Blair

52 Speaker Bluthardt ))

52, 53 Houlihan ) Verification.

53 Clerk Selcke Do you want to poll absentees?


54 Clerk Selcke ))

54 Speaker Bluthardt)

54 Leon

54 Clerk Selcke ))


54 Caldwell

54 Clerk Selcke ))


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54 Clerk Selcke ))

54 Lechowlcz ))

54 Speaker Bluthardt )

55 Brummet ))


55 Clerk Selcke )


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55 speaker Bluthardt ))

55 shea ))

55 Clerk Selcke )

55 Speaker Btuthardt

55 Hunsicker


55 Deavers Wf thdraw motïon


56 Houlihan )

56 Blair ))

56 Houlihan)


56 Houlihan )

57 Blair

57 Houlihan


58 Houkihan


59 Pappas Pappas


59 Houlihan

59 Speaker Bluthardt Foint of order

59 Shea


59 Blair

60 Speaker Bluthardt Amendment #2-H.B. 634

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62 Speaker Blutbardt

62 Borchers ;I

62 Speaker Bluthardt i

' 62 Shea ' l


63 VaShinBL0R '

64 s eaker Blutbardtp

64 Griesheimer .


65 Bradley '

' 65 speaker Bluthardt

66 Mccourt '


66 Pierce ,

67 speaker Bluthardt '

67 ceo-Karis .

67 Speake: Bluthardti . .

67 Londrigan , '

68 . Speaker Bluthardt k '

68 ' Huskey' 68 . speaker Bluthardt

68 punn ' '

69 Speaker Bluthardt ' '

69 Mahar

I69 Speaker Bluthardt' j

69 Deuster I

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70 Speaker Bluthardt ) ')

70 Deuster ) i;

70 Speaker Bluthardt.

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70y 71 Davis : ,


71 Sangmeister

72 Speaker Bluthardt ' .

72 Douglas .


73 cunain'gham


74 75 Barry ' ' '

' ker Bluthardt) '. 75 Spea)'

Matijevic: )76

' 77 Speaker 3luthardt .

77 ' Gibbs .

77 ' ' Clerk Selcke

7 7 Csbbs '': . . ' :. . '.::' . ...'. '. ,:

77 Speaker Bluthardt :

77 . ' schoeberlein . '

78 ' . Speaker Blutbardt . '

78 McGrew .

78 Speaker Bluthardt Order. .

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79 McGrew ' . 179 speaker Bluthardt' j

79 Ewell

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79 Alsup


79 Hill

80 Speaker Blutha4dt

80 Caldwell

80 Speaker Bluthardt ) Poll absentees)

81 Clerk Selcke ) Polls absentees

B1 Speaker Bluthardt Barry requests veriffcation

81 Giorgi Fresent

81 Spaaker Bluthardt

81 Clerk Selcke


81 Giorgi


81 Lemke


81 Clelk Selcke fAyeV-Lemke '


81 Barry

81 Clerk Selcke


82 Clerk Selcke Verffication of Affirmatfve


82 Barry )

82 Clerk Selcke


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82 speaker Bluthardt ) j' )

83 ' Clerk Selcke ) Questions of Affirmative' )

83, 84. 85, 86 Barry )

86 Speaker Bluthardt 53 'aaye 105 'ayel 3 'present

86 Holkoway


86 Clerk ' selcke ' '' ' . : - i 'z.. -

' :86 Speaker Bluthardt Holloway to 'aye'

86 Barry ) ')

86 Clerk,selcke ). )

86 Speaker Bluthardt )

87 Mann ). ) .

87 Clerk Selcke ))

' . 87 Speaker Bluthardt ) Amen P2-H.B. 634 passed.

87 . Murphy Lunch hour at 4:15?

' 87 ' speaker Bluthardt Recess unttl 4:15

' 87 Speaker Mikler '

88 Clerk Selcke Commfttee Reports. t.

' 89 . speaker Miller Agreed Resolution

89 clerk selcke H.R. 456.

89 Speaker Mïller .

89 ' Walsh Move adoption of H.R. 456.

. 90 Speaker Miller H.R. 456 adopted. .

90 Clerk Selcke S.B. Third Rdading. SJB. 358.

90 Speaker Miller

I90 Deuster )) '

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90 Lechowicz 0ut of record

91 Clerk Selcke S.B. 436.

91 Speaker Miller Out of the record

91 Clerk Selcke S.B. 749. Thlrd.

91 Speaker Miller

91 Fleck

91 Speaker Miller Out of the record

91 Clerk Selcke S.B. 875. Third.

91 Speaker MillerI

' 91 Neff

92 speaker Miller )'

)92 techowicz )

92 Nef f .' ).')

92 Lechowicz )

93 Speaker Miller

93 Calvo )''j;j;

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93 Neff )

93 Lechowicz

93 Calvo

93 Speaker Miller

93 McFhster

93 Lechowicz

93 Speaker Miller

93 Calvo

93 Neff

94 falvo

94 S eaker Miller.< G wI'o'*'-

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McMitrj t.t! r94

Spezlk.t! t: àllller ) .95) .

Duf f )9 5

Neff95

Duff95 .

spellktjr Ktller)95' )

' Neff . )t 95'

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l' l ' '95, 96 ' . . , -l , . .j 07 ' Spelkk. r Ktller .i

Dunnq ,97. spujkkqjr uiyyer97

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: McMan ter ' .9 7

Spelkker Miller97 .

. xafg98 .

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98

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Spoakqr Miller ' .99 ,

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' ' Spoaker Miller S-B- 875 ' .. 99

1 99 ' CàQ rk Selcke 'Vp*aker Miller .99

B)k r thy99 .

Spmllter Mitler99

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99 Neff Requests postpon ed consideratio'

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l00 Lechowicz ).è 4 .100 Speaker Miller 83 aye

100 Hill, ;100 Speaker Miller PPC requested not granted yet

100 ' Hill .

100 Speaker Miller ' '

1QQ ' Neff ' 0ut of the Roll Call

100 Speaker Miller Must go on Postponed coasiderat on

l00 . Fleck

' 101 ' Speaker Miller ) S.B. 749. )

l01 . Bradley ) '

l0l Fleck ) .. ) . '

l0l Bradley ) .' . , :

l01 ' Speaker Miller ). '

, ) 'l01 Tipsword ) -

l01 Fleck ) . ' . ''. j ' ' .

l02 ' lipsword ) . .

' l02 Speaker Miller '

l02 Evell ) ' .. . h ' .

l02 Fteck ) ' .

103 EWe11 ''

jl03 Speaker Miller

l03 Natijevfch i

104 Speaker Miller))

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l04 Eleck'

lo4 BeaupreI. l04 Speaker Miller

104 Fleck

l05 Beaupre

1Q5 Pleck '

1Q5 Speaker Riller

t l05 Maraaos

l06 Speaker Miller

l06 Stedelin

. l06 Speaker Miller '

l06 Craig

l06 speaker Miller '

l06 lerzich Move previous question

106 Speaker Miller Previous question moved

106 Pleck

107 Speaker Mï.ller - S.B. 749

107 Ewell

107 Speaker Mfller Passed k

l07 Clerk Selcke S.B. 20. Third.

l07 Speaker Miller

l07 Craig

l07 speaker Millef )' )l07 Jaffe )

l08 Craig )) '

108 Jaffe )I108 S

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Page Tfme Speaker Information ' ' .

l08 Jaffe ', ' !' I

lo8 . speauer Mlzler ) 1) '

108 Borchers )' '

109 Speaker Mïller .

lO9 : Craig Out of record

l09 ' Speaker Mfller Out of the record

l09 ' . Clerk selcke H.B. 1932 '

l09 Speaker Mfller

109 ' ' Clerk Selcke H.B. 1046

109 ' Speaker Miller '

109 techowfcz

109 Speaker Miller 0ut of the record

109 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1046. 2nd. 20 Amend-com.

l09 . Speaker Miller comma-ttee Amepdment //1 . .,o

109 Clerk Selcke Commx'ttee Ameadmentr#l'.-

110 ' Speaker Mtller '; . ' t . ' .- ' .

11û ' Deuster ' . : .4'-. . , $, .

110 Speaker Miller Mcves to table Amendmear #1. through 30. Tabled.

l10 ' Deuster .

l10 . ' ''speaker Mizler . .

ll0 . , . Clerk Selcke Amendment #31-H.B. 1046

110 Speaker Miller

l10 Sangmefster .

l10 Deuster

11l Sangmefster

1l1 Speaker Xfller .7

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: .1I 1l1 Speaker Miller 'j 'I 1l1 Sangmeister )I )

1l2 s eaker Miller )p

t 112 Deuster ' . .I

l12 Speaker Miller

112 Deuster

112 Speaker Miller

112 ' Shea

112 Speaker Mfller .

ii2 DZQSZCX '

ll3 Speaker Mfller

l13 Sangmefster

1l3 Speaker Mitler Chair suggests withdraw 31 & 32j . '

l14 ' Barry

114 Saagmetstet .' Agrees with Barry

114 , Deuster .. ' z ' .

114 ''Speaker Mlller

l14 ' Sangmeister Out of record

li4 speaker Mlller . Hold Bfll on 2nd with Tablcd. Amendments 1 - 30

114 Clerk Selcke S.B. 1047-2nd-No Com. Amen.

114 Speakek Miller Amendment f/1

114 Deuster

115 speaker Mtller .

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115 . Schraeder ))

115 Deuster )

115 Speaker Mfller

115 Deuster To close

116 Speaker Mfller

j .J l16 Palmer Questlon

116 Speaker Miller

l16 Deuster Suggest ft be taken out

l16 Speaker Miller 0ut of record '

115. Deuster

116 Speaker Miller Take H.B. 1048 out

ll6 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1209-2nd-1 Com. Amen. -

l16 speaker Mtller '

l17y 118 Schlickman

119 ' Speaker Mlller

119 Palmer ))

' 119 -' . Schlickman ) '

l19 Speaker Mtller , . '

120 Wm. Wals:

120 speaker Miller ' '

120 Schlic%mnn To close

121 ' Speaker Miller Amendment //1

121 Mugalian

l2l ' speaker Miller

121 Rayson

l22 speaker Mlller Amendment adopted. Thtrd.

l22 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1776-2nd=1 Com. Amen.uazzw'bmp 'Xhf G'E N E R A L x s s E M B L Y/g 'zyi'e:a hi . . ..2k)-,* q sx xvp: og ssulno,sLv . v#' Liv- - .N u -L . . H o tl s E o F !W e: P F' E s E N T A T 1 v E s'xtltq va.. &*

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Paqe 'rlme Speaker Information II

I l22 Speaker Mlller

122 Maragos Amendment IIk

122 Speaker Miller Amendment adopted-Third

122 clerk Selcke H.B. 1820-2nd-2 Com. Amen. '

l22 speaker Miller

122 clerk Selcke Amendment //1

l23 speaker Miller '

123 choate

l23 Houltban ) That # s right. )

l23 . speaker Miller)

l23 Palmer ))

l23 xoulihan ) 0ut of record

l23 Speaker Miller

123 Clerk Selcke H.B. l867-2nd-No Com. Aaend.

123 Speaker Miller Third Reading

l23 élerk Setcke H.B. 1875-2nd-1 Com. Amon.

l24 speaker Mfller

l)4 Garmisa Amendment //1

l24 speaker Miller

l24 Barnes ) eat does it do? '. . )

l24 Garmisa )

l24 Speaker Miller Amendment adopted. Thfrd.

125 Clerk Selcke H.B. 189l-2nd-No Com Amend

l25 Speaker Miller

125 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1921-2nd-Xo Com. zmend-

l25 Speaker Miller

125 Clerk Selcke Floor Amendment 11 '

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PaKe Time Speaker Information

125 Speaker Mfller ' I

l25 Deuster

l25 speaker Miller Amendment adopted-Third.

) H B 46-2nd-1 Com. Amend. . .125 clerk Selcke : . .

126 Speaker Mfller

l26 Caldwell ' Amendment #1

126 Speaker Miller ' Amendment adopted-Third.

l26 Clerk Selcke H.B. 152-2nd-1 Com. Amen

126 Speaker Miller

126 Epton Amendment 11

l26 ' Speaker Miller Amendment adopted-Third.

l26 Clerk Selcke B.B. 285-2nd-1 Com. Amen.

l26 Speaker Miller

126 Sharp Amendment #1

: 127 Speaker Miller Amendœent adopted-Third

l27 Clerk Selcke H.B. 418-2nd-l Com. Amen.

127 Speaker Miller .

' 127 Taylor Amendment //1

127 Speaker Miller Am-ndment adopted-Third.

l27 ' Clerk Selcke H.B. 439-2nd-1 Com. Amen.

l28 Speaker Miller

128 ' . . Shea Amendment //1

128 . Speaker Mtller Amendment adopted-lhird

. l28 Clerk selcke H.B. 484-2nd-1 Com. Amea.

l28 Speaker MillerI

128 Shea Amendmeat #1

- 8 s eaker Miller Amendment ado ted-Thtrd<-17-2>/. y'iryx ct G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Y( ; % 4

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. 1'3lj .k j 'ilpaqe Time Speaker Enf-o-w=zon! 1l Ilj l28 clerk selcke R-B- 6Iv2nd-1 com. Amua i(1 .'j . '1' 128 . speauer Miller; j .! tIi 129 Redmond t XaL.6C=d öy Calvo

' 1 I 1'11 zz9 speauer M1l1gk')11 . . .t 129 Lechwtcz lrnzm-rilerr' /à1I

129 speaker Miller ln*a->me- adopted

l 129 clerk selcke 4=*n=>7 ow-. f/2I l .

'ji 130 Speaker Miller'

j . 'l 13o sarryI .I .. .i 13o speakar ylaler zu-uen=-t adopted-Thtru .

13o clerk selcke =.B- fa2-2nd-No con. Amund.1 130 Speaker Miller Zhirâ Peading

l30 clerk selcke E-B- :55-2nd-l Com. Amund.

13G speaker Mlller .

l30 ' techovicz AmRnM- RMY //1 '

130 Speaker Miller àmen-Y-' M2 adopted

131 Clerk Selcke 1m*n' -*- Gmt #2

' 131 speaker Miller

131 Soderstrom

z3l speaker Mtlzer bv=. =- m-t adopted-Thtru.

. l3l cteru selcke i-B- u54-znd-t com. Amena.

z31 spenvor Milzer

13l Lechmvtcz

132 spnxvor Miller =-'' n=A- >nt adopted-Thtrd.

l32 clerk selcke 175- 744-2nd-1 Com. Amund.

i32 speaker Miller

l32 WaJdell O ent f/1

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l32 Speaker Miller Amendment adopted-Third.

132 Clerk Selcke H.B. 773-2nd-:o Com. Amend.

' 132 Speaker Mfller Third Reading

132 Clerk Selcke H.B. 798-2nd

133 Clerk Selcke H.B. l041-2nd-No Com. Amend.

133 Spéaker Miller Third Reading .

l33 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1065-2nd-2 Com. Amend.

133 Speaker Miller

133 Lechowicz Amendment #1

. l23 ' Speaker Mlller Amendment IIï '

l34 Douglas )'

)134 LechoWicz) ' '

l34 Speaker Miller Amendment #1 adopted '

134 ' Clerk Selcke Amendment f/2

134 Speaker Mfller -

134 Lechowicz

134 Speaker Miller Amendment adopted-Third.

134 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1110-2nd-Ho Com. Amepd.


l34 Clerk' Selcke H.B. l157-2nd-No Com. Amend.

l35 Speaker Miller Third Readlng '

135 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1274-2nd-1 Com. zmend.

l35 Speaker Mtller

l35 McNaster Read the Amendment

135 Clerk Selcke

135 Speaker Miller

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Page Time Speaker Information '

135 . Lechowfcz Amendment #1

l35 Speaker Miller Amendment adopted-rhfrd. ;

136 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1306-2nd-l Com. Amend. ' I136 Speaker Miller .

136 Lechowicz Amendment //1 '

136 Speaker Mtller Ameadment adopted-Third.

l36 ' Clerk Selcke H.B. 1327-2nd-1 Com. Amend.

136 speauer Mlller .

136 Taylor Amendment //1 '

136 SFeaker Mt3.ler Amzndment adopted-Third. ' '

137 . Clerk Selcke H.B. 1328-2nd-1 Com. Ampnd.

137 Speaker Miller

l37 Taylor Amendment //1 '

. l37 Speaker Mtller Amendment adopted-Third. .

'. l37 . . Clerk Selcke H.B. 1458-2a8-1 Com. Amend.

. l37 Speaker Miller

l 137 . Mouxelï . zxmizkdlaent //1 ' '

l38 Speaker Miller Am-ndment adopted-Thïrd.' . . dx

. 138 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1516-2nd-l Com. Amend.

l38 speaker Mïller ' ' . .'

138 ' Palmer Amendment ?/l

. 138 . Speaker Miller Amondment adopted-Third.

138 ' ' Clerk Selcke H.B. 1528-2nd-1 Com. Amend.

1gg ' yiylar'

j138 Kennedy Amendment //1 j

' j138 Speaker Mfller Amenament Adopted-Thixd.

139 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1529-2nd-1 Com. Amend.16

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139 Speaker Miller

139 Kennedy Amendment //1

l39 Speaker Miller Amendnent adopted-Third.

139 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1609-2nd-No Com. Amend.




l40 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1668-2nd-No Com. Amend.


143 Clerk Selcke H.L. l827-2nd-No com. laend.

l40 Speaker Yiller Third Reading

140 Clerk Selcke M.B. 1850-2nd-No Com. Amend.

l40 Speaker Miller Third Reading

l40 Clerk Selcke H.B. l851-2nd-No Com. Amend.

l40 Speaker Miller Thlrd Reading

140 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1852-2nd-2 Com. Amend.

140 Speaker Miller

l40 Clerk Selcke Amendment #1

140 Speaker Miller

141 Garmisa

l41 Speaker Miller lmendment adopted

l4I clerk Selcke Ameadment I12

l4l Speaker Miller Omit #z-Third Reading


' l41 Speaker Miller

141 Clerk Selcke Flooè Amendment ?/1

141 S eaker MillerZW 'N.,. N7...2 / . I&; 'p ' . G E N E R A L A S S E M B L Yt y .y, j z jf

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Information 'g eaker

Garmisa ;141 '. I

uer Miller . .spea J1&1

soyk, :. a. ) j1/11 ) 'j 'Garmlsa .

142 ;7ker YillerSpea

' 1A2wicz ) 'Lecbo

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1A2 '. . xillerspeaker .

1%2 ') . ' 'k uj.yl

14 3 )) '/ Gamisa

3.43 ' . 'yjitlerspealter

: 14 3 's def e*tVrge .

l Waddell14A 't s eaker YillerP

144z Lechowicz .t 144t llerspeaker Mi

yas4144 table H-B.lsks to. carmisa

144 .Tabled. aker xillerI;pe q144 - znd-No Com. A=elleE-B. 1861-. youe61erk Sei ' 144 . aeadtng. mhird

ker Millerspea144 d-1 com. Amend.

. u s. 1917-2nu selcue -cler

144.. lyer '. speaker Mi

144sutsner '

144 . . t adopted, wmendmen. auex Millef.. Spe

- . 145 ar f/2 1Amendmeclerk Selcke I

145 Jker Millef jSpea

145skinaer in

' 45 d-lhitd XfAd. 1 dmeat ado teA

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28.

Paqe Ttme . Speaker Inforpatfon

145 clerk Selcke H'.B. 1925-2nd-No Com. Amend.

l45 speaker Miller ' Thfrd Readfng

146 clerk Selcke H.B. 1948-2nd-No Coc. Amvnd.

146 speaker Mille6w Thfrd Reading' 1

l46 Katz Speaks about B. B. Wolfe '

l46 speaker Mlller In conncetion vith H.B. 1926 '

146 Bradley Asks leave to hear H.B. 1926'

' as coàpanion to 1925

l46 speaker Mlller ' '

146 . Clerk Selcke H.B. 1926-2nd-No Com. Amend.

147 Speaker Mïller Third Reading

147 ' Randolph Announcement

147 ' speaker Miller

l47 Katz Question of Randolph

148 Speaker Miller

148 clerk Selcke H.B. 1969-2nd-1 Com. Amend.

' 148 speaker Miller .

148 Barry ' Amendpent //1 .

I48 ' ' Speaker Mïller Thfrd Reading

l48 Clerk selcke H.B. 1973-2nd-No Com. Amend.

148 Speaker Miller Thfrd Reading

1ù8 Clerk Selcke 1977

148 Speaker Miller Third Readfng

l48 clerk Selcke E.B. 1978-2nd-No com. Amead.

149 speaker Miller Third Reading

' l49 clerk Selcke H.B. 1983-2nd-No 'CO.. Amead.

l49 speaker Miller Thfrd Readfng

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Page Time Speaker Informatlon

l49 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1993-2nd-No Com. Amend.

k 1&9 Speaker Miller Third Readfng ,l

l49 Clerk Selcke H.B. 933-2nd-1 Com. Amend.

149 Speaker Miller . '

15G Ebbesen Amendment #1 ' '

150 Speaker Miller ' 5J .

l50 Lechowicz '

l50 ' Speaker Miller' 150 Ebbes:n 0ut of record . '

150 Speaker Miller

l5l Clerk Selcke B.B. l611-2ad-1 Com. Ameud.

l51 Speaker Miller '

l51 Tuerk zmendment IIk

l51 , Speaker Miller Third Reading

151 Clerk Selcke H.B. 1699-2n4-1 Com. Amend.(' . .. .: 151 Speaker Miller . '

' 15l ' skinner zmendment #1 '. . '

l51 Speaker Mtller Amendment adopted-Third. $

152 ' uashburn

l52 ' ' Clerk Selcke R.B. 1918-2nd-l Com. Amend.

l52 Speaker Mtller ' '

152 Washbùrn Aaondment #1

152 ' Speaker Miller .

l52 Lechwicz

152 Washburn '

152 Clerk Selcke Amendment /)1

l53 S eaker Millerm'Z>. % . x

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30.'

Page Time Speaker Informatfon '

l53 Lechowicz ) ' :)

153 Washburn )

l53 Speaker Miller. )153 Washburn : Annouacement

l54 Speaker Mïller

154 Shea ))

l54 Washburn ) Leave to suspind Rule 18

l54 . speaker Miller

155 Catania S.B. 644-Move to take from :.n '.:V zspeaker's table

155 Speaker Miller

155 Capuzi

l55 ' speaker Mtller

156 stone

. l56 ' Speaker Mlller

. 156 catania To close

157 Speakar Miller ' . ' ' . '

157 ' ' Dyer Explafns vote

157 Speaker Mfller

l57 Lundv Explaias vote '

158 speaker Miller .

158 . Mccourt Explains vote

158 Speaker Miller Motion lost

158 Ewell 0ut of record ' .

l58 Speaker Miller '

159 Ewell S.B. 582

159 ' Speaker Miller

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31.

Page Time Speaker I-nformaLfon

l59 Walsh )) '

. 159 Speaker Miller)

159 Capuzi

159 Speaker Miller

160 kalsh ). )

l60 zwell ) .

160 Speaker Miller

l61 Shea '! .'

161 Speaker Miller

161 Wàlsh

. ' 161 Speaker Miller

16l Capuzi

161 Speaker Miller.

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162 Speaker Miller '

l62 Shea .

' l62 ' Speaker Ml.l1e?-

162 Walsh ', %' 162 Speaker Miller ' ' ' '

' 162 ' Shea. . $ .

l63 ' Speaker Miller '' 163 ' Walsh ' His out of order

l63 ' Speaker Miller .

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' l63 Shea ' Explains 'situation'

163 Speaker Miller '

' J.63 ualsh

1 163 S eaker Miller.-7)-'wV ' . INXN G E x E R A L A g g E M jj j

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l6A Choate

164 Speaker Miller

l64 Nann

l65 Walsh Requests verfftcation

165 Speaker Nfller

. 165 Ewell W111 not submit

165 Speaker Miller

l65 Ewell Poll absentees

165 Speaker Miller

165 Kempiners guestfons quorum

l65 Speaker Miller

l65 Clerk O'Briea Polls absentees

l66 Murphy in the Chair

l66 Ehoate

166 Speaker Murphy Proceed with verification

l66 Clerk Selcke

l66 Speaker Miller

l67 Lechovicz

167 Walsh State over

167 Speaker Mlller

l67 Lechowicz

l67 Speaker Miller

167 Dunne

168 Speaker Miller

168 Clerk Selcke ) Proceeds wfth vertflcatton) '

I68 Speaker Miller ))

168 - - Walsh ) Proceeds with verification'-J7kr- 'zlk x

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Paae Time Speaker Informatlon'

168 shea )I . )

1 168 speaker Mitler ))

169 kalsh ))'

l70 . clerk selcke 9J r171 Speaker Miller '

l71 Hi1l Point of order

171 Speaker Miller

171 ' , Walsh Continues

l72 McGrew Record me as 'aye' '

173 Walsh Contfnues

l74 Speaker Miller Motion is lost

174 Walsh . Intend to adjourn

l74 Speaker Mfller. ' , .

l74 Collins Announcement & move to suspead. ' Rula 18

174 Speaker Mïller ' '

17A . Wm. Walsh Move House adjourn

174 '' Speaker Miller Adjourned

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A Roll Call for attendance was taken and indieated that

a1l were present with the exception of the following:

Representative Arthur Telcser - illness fn family;

Representative Bernard B. Wplfe - illness.. )

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k Mothevs comc fa asaovtcd sâcpcs and afacsa medîum, srcll.) short, :cJâ> stendev or plugp. Mouv osn pcrlfcuscr mothev

came fn c sfze especfclfp vfght J/r you.1' Mothevs dr/ss fn many dfff/rent atyTes: âzuc Jccnaa pca:sa7: Mfuf-gkfrts. maxfs, midfsa ov fî//r-lcng': ekfrlen vfur coctsa

eTobh c/alsa sveaters or shcvsa oç yestevyear, but on the fnsfdeamotheva are prettp much the same.

iMothera have heavta Tulî of JoNc. They 5opc Lîttte gfrîsa'

; 1<::Sc boys and dcdd<esa 5fg boye and g;r5Ja aT% and fl//ere.' Tn crla c mothev'a Jcporflc nafntîng fs done u<t9 crayon on cJn-

atvuctfon pcpcr îuvnîahed fl fîrat gvade. S9e atso âopes vosess& but hev wos: chevîshed bouqueta cr/ the vfbhcrcd ufld fzovevs' Trom the rfght Tï8t of her chfld. '

She s<15 ooax babYes fxt/ takîng thcfr ffrat atgp. hovevfngcper neav uëtâ oubatvetchqd crmezcs: thcy fclla then rel/iecgreatTy cs they lecrn to uclk aTone, kn/u'wlg full uelT that thephave taken the ffrst eten t/ucrd vatkfng cvcp from her. In âerheavt she fs gTad, #et ead.

; mothev fs conefdered by tâ/gc vho crea'l Motheba'to be2 se&î-aacrfîfcLng, bR: ahe r/cllp ;sn?:. $ke Jc'eâer's mfbb cad

the gl/epwcggd d/ls bvought hev muoh move hcppfness than thatl/pelp neu hat v/uld have.

#/th/rs cre not Tullp undevstood by cNp except other mothevaand Jod. For uho ccn undevqband vâp a molâ/r Ls cble to Tclc ââcheavtbreak of crfafs stLàpf-ùfppad and J'z'y-gàcdt then brga;( 'J?:f5LnaontvoTnabTe vcepfng at 1#e vovds 5f a bcau:lful hymn? 0F ho*ehe fa abTe to smflg and ycre goodbye ts her Jâflda then gâ/daoplous tears upon hfs r/àurn. '

Iour mothev Ac8 knosn d<nce the day of p/ur ûrrfpcl thatsomeday she Mus: &et you go. She hag prenaped Aereelf fov 'hfaaand trevga vaTLantTy to set heraebf cpcrt fvom you. Ycta 4T attfmgs she gc/ma to elfng a sïta fovgîve 9Fr cnd Temembev that hereâfldrcn ave u'lvcpe kev ehëldmcna ovon bhough 1:,41 l/gs havegr/un Tong.

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i 1 . ) .1.) 2. l the following title, senate bill 926. actfon taken by the senate june 21s 1973....

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