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I ND EX Of WITNESSES Prosecution's . 1 itness es NAKAI, Kimbei (resumed) Redirect (Mov ie Film) Recross by Mr . Sugawa ra " " Captain Kle iman P0 1 f/ELL , John B. - - .... _ -- - -- ----- - Direct by Mr. McKenzie I ND EX Of EXHIBITS (no exh ibits) 5 AUGUST 1 946 3155 3155 3191 3200 3209 32 09

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I ND EX

Of

WITNESSES

Prosecution's .1itnesses

NAKAI, Kimbei (resumed)

Redirect (Movi e Film)

Recross by Mr . Sugawara " " Captain Kle iman

P01f/ELL , John B.

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Direct by Mr. McKenzie

I ND EX

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(no exhibits)

5 AUGUST 1946

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Monday , 5 August, 1946

I NTERNATI ONAL MI LITARY TRI BUNAL FOR THE FAR EAST

Court House of the Tribunal ,.,ar Ministry Building

Tokyo, Japan

The Tribunal met, pursuant to adjournment ,

Appearances:

For the Tribunal , same as before .

For the Prosecution Section , same as befor e .

For the Def ense Section , same a s before .

(English to Japanesa and Japanese

t o English inter pretation was made by the

Language Section, n.:TFE.)

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l MARSHAL OF THL COURT : The Internati onal

2 Military Tribunal for the Far Eas t is nou in session

3 and is r eady to hear any matter brought before ito

4 THE PRESIDENT : Doc s counsel desire to

s mention any matter?

6 Mr. Logan.

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MR. LOGAN : If the Tribunal pl ease , for

the purpose of the r ecord, I for mally move tho Tri­

bunal at this time , on behalf of all the accused,

that the proceedings her e t of ore had in Chambers and

all the proceedings to be held in Chambers her eaft e r

be CTade part of the r ecord of this case , that a

separate volume be kept of such proceedings entitled

"Proceedings in Chambers," and that an or der be

enter ed to that effect .

In the absence of any opposition by the

prosecu.tion I ask to defer any argument on this

question.

THE PRESIDENT: Docs the pr osecution desire

to be heard?

MR. DONIHI: No objections. to the motion,

i f it please the Trihunal .

THE PRESIDENT: The Court will cons ider the

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Mr . Don1h1.

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NAKAI RLDIRECT

MR . DONIHI: I am 1nforr.ied by the Iic:i.rshal

of tho Court tha t tho courtroo~ r.iay be blackened

out i mncdiately without di fficulty if tho Tr ibunal

is desir ous of s eeing tho pictur e "The Cr iti cal

Period of J apan" a t t his ti r.ie .

THE PRESIDENT : We caCTc her e expec ting to

sec t he picture at 9:30.

K I M B E I N A KA I , r ecalled as a r1itness on

behal f of the pr osecution , r csuncd the stand

and t esti fi €d as f ollows :

REDIRECT EXMHNJ~T ION

(\./hereupon , the fil r.i "Tho Cr itica l

Per iod of J apan" was shovm with the Lang­

uage Section Chie f r ead i ng in English the

ti tle s and sound track , as foll ows : )

"Le t us calr.ily obser ve the situation in

Asiao Has peace r e igned in Asia during the l as t

f i fty year s?

"Have we lived in the peaceful condi t i on

which i s our ideal?

"Have our Asi a tic brother s been livi ng i n

peaceful satisfaction fulfilling their own r.iissi ons

i n accordnnce with the i deal of As i a?

'' ·1hat i s the situation in the North , in

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in Siberia , Mongol ia , Tibet and Sinkiang? And what

is the situation in Chine. , which ourht to be our

most intimat e friend?

"Next, let us l ook eDstward upon the P?cific

Ocean. Are the waves of the Pacific reelly calm?

Can we ~:,qJect the waves of the Pacific of t omorrow

to be as calm PS they ~re today?

"After conr.i dering all this , on whose shoul­

ders may we suppose thet ~.11 of the responsibtlity

of establishing peace i n the Or i ent lies? Written

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"I fi r cly believe that we cnn never expect

t o see pe~ce r estored in the q~ient if we rely uron

others .

"Our country of J apen , was est~blished by

God' s will . It is a divine country , the country

of Gods .

"It is t he mission of our r ace e.nd of <1ur

nation t o realize the idePls shown t o us by our

gods . If we , t he Yama t o r ace , should refuse to

carry out this hcly mission of estebl ishing peace

in the Orient with our ideels and power , ho'V' could

we, the Asiet ics , ever expect to live in peace which

we i dee.lize?

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"Therefor E:: , the cr eat e.s t T"iss i 0n f or us

of the Ja panese Race end 0f t h& J apenes c Nation

is thc>.t cf rising ·rii t~1out dep6nding upon others

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"The f act the t r;e hrve such e, great

r e sponsibility obl iges us J apcnE: se t o T)r e ss f 0r werd

in this critice l period .

"This , I believe , is the nost i nportant

thinp Wiich our countrynen nust bear i n ni nd in

this ernerye~cy period .

"Thus, a gr ave r.nd i nportcnt r esponsi.bility

i s on our shoulcers . Vlhen vie t hink about its

meaning we cannot help being d~o~ly conc~rned .

"For inst::..nce, the a t t itude C' f t he League

of N~tions which i s nuch di scuss6d t ccay , r.?kes

us doub€ the t they r espect our Mi ssi0n or th~ t

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fr i end Chin~ r ealize the desir~bility of under­

ste.ndlng 2.nd cooper~ting with Jcipe.n in ful f illine

this greet responsibility of the Ori£nt?

"Jepen has been r egarded with contempt .

She has been rejected.

"Fbrtuna t ely , we hr ve r ecently seen a

netion- v1id.e r evival of the Jo p~ne se spiri t in

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--------------·----"But it is the present conoiticn of our

country such es to enable us to rise whil e bearing

the full weight of our resuon~ibilities ?

"However , we rnust not cone. t o the r [!sh

conclusion th~t e.11 this i s brought about by others '

6 evil intentions e.nd contempt . Befcre V/€ r each such

7 e conclusi on., before we blaMe others , we do some

s serious self- examinetion .

9 "For this reason , r.1Y dee.r country- men, for

10 a few minutes let us consider tho historical s t ages

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"Vie , the J c>pe.ncsc pe:ople surpcss all other

peoples of the world in our f orvent l ove f or peace

and in our r e spect f or justice end honor~

"Truly , this is th€ rreat spirit of the

founding of our Enpire and is the fundaMental

consciousness of our whole race .

"The gates of our country rier c opened

i n the gr eat r<:.forJ!ll'tion E1.t thE. tine of the Meij i

r estor ation, \'.Jhen the true cspcct of J ap?.n vms re­

veP l ed t o the \7hol e VJ("lrld .

"Ever since then Jnpr.n he s been edvrncing

vii th rapi d strides, taking her stand f or r i ghteous­

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f or the sake of peace , And the result is, thrt in

the short period of f orty years she h~s ~ade a sur­

prisint; e.dvence which hP s emPz E)d the r1hcle world.

"However , af ter r. short ·.vhile the glory

of the nation began t o decline gr e.dually . 1."lhat

br ought this sad but undeniable situation? There

may be several rc&sons , but the most i nmEdi ete

cause i s our self- conceit , nc~ligence and f orget ­

fulness of our pest history ,

"The sudden rise of J e.pe.n ' s intern2 t i onal

:position and the er owth C'f n"'ti cnel power have made

the J ape.nose people essm:1c v.n ~ir of vulgar pros­

perity beth spiritually rnd in c nater inl sense ,

conpl e t ely f or getting t heir previous exerti ons end

the originel ground upon which the Er.p i re stands :

"This resulted in an uncriticizing in··

f etueti on y•i th all things European , c-nd the western

culture both good e.nd be.d we.s t'.C ceptGd ur1ccndi tion­

ally. Thus, the independent i dEel , cherrcteristic

of the J apanese r e.co WtJs sYTopt ewey in l ess the.n

no time . I t is quite natur~ l that thi s nvtion~l

stt:'.gne.tion r eflected 1 t self in al l her f ore i gn

policies .

(A scene of a pair of man end wonen ,

dancing in a r oom,)

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"Womr.n: 1Vle have been dancing for quite

a l ong while . I ' m ~11 tired out . Le t ' s have ten

•••• • Novi shall we go f or a 'Vnlk?

"Man: 1\'!hat i s it - - what ~re you l ooking

a t? You ' re eye ing C' geish~ , aren ' t you? '

"ThE. Other Mc-n: 1 No , I wasn 1 t . I just

thought she l ooked pretty. The geishas e>re only

the r emains of the ol d Meiji ere - I don ' t care

f or them.

"Man: (in J apl'! nes e dress): ' Well ,

well, we have P. c ouple of he. iry Europeans with

us, I seei; '

"Woman: ' Ouchl Ycutre hur ting ne ..

Cen 1 t you sec thc t, you stupid? A~olcgize! 1

"Man: ( of t he Rir ht Wing): 1 I 1 n

sorry . I beg your pcrdon. 1 (Curt f orn of

J aprnese) .

'"ilom~n : , ,.,he. t e Pey t o e. sk ti. l ady 's

perdon! Repent tha t! '

"Man: (Of the Rir ht Wing): ' I ' n sorry.

I 1 rn renlly very s orry.'

''Women: 1In the first plece this is no

place f or y ou t o wr lk! 1

"Ane.chr onist : 1 Apclogize more politely.'

"Me.n: 1 I e.m r sking your pa.rd on quite

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111ilornPn: 'Why 0cesn ' t one of you se.y ~orne-

t h i ng? Don ' t you see thet a l ady i s being in~ulted ? '

"Man : (Modern l coking): ' Heyl Meiji Era !

You should apolog i ze t o e. 12dy like this .'

11r.1en (of t he Richt \"Jing ): ' Fool!

Li sten well t o what I say . This i s J apen . Fven

though t hi s is Ginze , it is e part of t he Jep~nese

Em~ire . Understand? '

"Rys tn.nc1.er (in t he J e.pe.nese Clress ):

' Well done , good ! Good!'

"MPn : ( of th€ Right Wing): ' Hol d your

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l S er ound i n the gey ouart &rs? Fool! '

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"It i s needl ess t o sey that t he rne j crity

of the Jap~nese h~ve not l ost the tradition£1

c onsci~·sness of true Jap~nese , but the r uinous

and corru::>ti ve condi t10n on the surface •1er e more

c ons~icuous , rnisloeding foroiene r s to l ook down

upon J apan as a count r y which could be ee sily

diST)OSed c f .

"Thi s i s the ree.l cDuse of t he Menchurien

Inci0ent , end this is also the fector r esponsi bl e

for J eprn ' s solitary position in the world , the

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seed of which I do not he: s i t r. te to sey , we s s own

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Heaven wh ich came t o us in the f or m of the r:anchurian

Incident . The true char acter of J apan was vividly

r eveP.l ed in the splendid nctions of the IM~erial troops

fighting in extreme col d , or in scorched fiel ds under

a burning sun.

11 /.nd the sir ht of our f ellow countrymen in

Manchuria working earnestly end devotedly ut the

front, with the 0verlas ting sr irit of the song which

SAYS 'when we go over the soos , cor pses down in the

deep wa t er; when we p.o over t he nnuntains , cor pses

among the thick-gr owinr. r r e.ss ; THE GR&~TEST HONOR IS

TO DIE FOR THE EUPEROR, ' t his sonr nakes us f eel tha t

they are the per sonific&tion of t he puv.rdian fads of

"Inside J ?.pan , also , the r eal spirit nani­

f ost ed itself in nation- wide zeal f or the encournfe­

ment of the sol di ors, a story t hat cannot be t ol d

without t ears. The rt> triotic zeal was nfpClr ent in

the enthusiastic cheers which nade soldi ers ro gl adly

t o the front, l euvinr t heir dcnr ones behind .

"Younf!' boys e.nd firls s ent l e t t ers written

in t heir own blood , all the peopl e , both rich and

poor, sent innumer able coMforts and l ar ge anounts of

money t o the sol diers .

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"Relief funds wer e sent f r ')r.l the r c11ot os t

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Pnd Europe ~ This exr r ession of s incerity end patriotisn

moved us ~lM0s t t o t ears .

"'''hen the pr esent inc ident broke out our

peopl e awakened t o a r enlization 'Jf the r acia l spirit.

The J apanes e peopl e , aft er a l ong interval, r esumed

their consciousness of be ing J ppanese .

"When we r ef l ect upon it n0w, we cannot help

t hinkinf tha t it wns really the will of Heaven, a

speciel grace of God .

"Girl No . 1 : ' Evcninf paper s : Eveninr

Pepers : Buy an eveninp r~pcr? '

"Girl No . 2 : ' Isn ' t it t erribly col d? '

"Girl No . 1: ' But think ".> f the sol di ers in

Manchuria . It ' s col der over ther e !'

"''.·oman: 1 11.'c ' ve been dencinf a l ong time -­

it ' s l ate . Let ' s go hoMc now.'

"Han : ' Yes , l et ' s po.'

"Girl No . 2 : 1 It ' s very l r t c , 2nd as ther e 1 s

no one t o buy our pnpers , cone on !'

"Girl No . 1 : ' Yes , l e t's fo .'

" ( f. re.ssinf Jll')t0r car kno cks d0·.vn Girl N0 . 1.)

"Girl N0 . 1: ' Oh !'

11 111ornan : ' Oh , Yoko che.n !'

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"Doctor : ' Noth inf. t o vrnry ;-brmt. She is

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3 "Yok0 : ' Teacher sai1 "e Must W')rk hnr d and

4 r emember the s0l d i er s in ~1anchur ia . '~i th t he p0cke t

5 money you veve ne , I h0d bnur ht evonin~ pa~ers . I

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t o our s ol d i ers .'

"Mother : ' Then -- y0u wer e selling news -

papers ! 1

"Child : 1 J.nd , rr0thcr , -- the t eacher s a i d

tha t thos e r r own ur peopl e who have the nerve t o dance

in days like thes e a r c f o0l s --.'

"Hother : 'F0r r i ve ne , Yok ()- chen t For r- ive

ne t Daddy ~nd I will n0ver, nevor d~ncc arain. For -

r ive ne !'

"However, does this nl" tirm- wi c.o zeal hav e

f nundntions stron r en0ur h t 0 surr0rt it cons istently?

D0 we n0t snptch ~t t e!1p0r a r y ease when we obte. in a

brief r est'? Do i:1e not f ive i n eus ily when vie ar e

threat ened by others? Docs er ch of us live ur t o his

own firn beliefs , f ounc1ed up0n his own th0uf hts?

11 ''.'hen I c0nsider these n~tter s ca r efully ,

I cannot he l r be inf a l ittle worried about the pr e-

s ent situa tion .

"Does each one of our peopl e , our countr y-

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r.ien hr ve en0ugh cournrc and strength within hiosGlf

2 t o eaer ge successfully fror.i t his difficult situe tion?

3 '"hen I think 0f these thinrs , !iY henrt sinks within

4 r.le C1 nd I an overcone b~r worry concerninr t he futur e

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"Then , wha t sh?uld we ~o f r on no11 on? How

can we survive the critical situRtion? Let ne say

a f ew wor ds on i t.

"As I sa i d bef or e , the whol e world is watch­

ing J apan. They want t o under stend tho re~l Japan.

Ther efor e , what no r.mst df) t odny is t o l ook upon

thewhol ·e of J.sia Pnd t o rmkc t he true na t ur e of .,

J c>pan arpar ent in al l of j .. sie.. '''e oust t r y t o mnin-

t a in that true n?. ture e.nd t o mnke t hem under stand

it .

"In 0ther wor ds , the nnly way f or Jc-pan to

fight her way through this critical situation is f or

us th0r oughly t o r evive the self-consciousness of

our being J ar,anese , thus r ere.i ninr t he firm belief

inna t e in tho J .:-prmes e. N0w t hen, whE'.t docs it mean

t o have the consci ousness of be int; Jqmnese? '~/hat is

the true n2ture of Japnni It is ver y clear -- it

means t hat we must f:O bnck t o the i deels on nhich

our Empire WF:' S f ounded .

""!hen Japan was f irst cr eAt ea , what d i d the

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1.ncestr al God~ess say t o the God and Gnddess , Izcnapi

~nd Izauami? She t ol d them t o ' transfor m the s emi ­

liqu i d el ements into a firm and solid nation ' ~nd

so , the Utopi a of J P.pP.n was forned nfter many stren­

uous endef:.v0rs .

"The p~th f or us t o tread is clearly shovm

in tho spirit r epr esent ed by the three l r ticles 0f

Imperia l Refalia given t o the Imperia l gr ands on on

his descent fr0m Heaven by t he J.ncestral Goddess .

Therefor e , our duty i s t n establish J P.pBn as an i deal

c0untr y of gods in accor dnnce with this gr eat i deal .

(1•.tri tten 0n screen : ' The I se Shrine ' and ' The Kashi ­

war a Shrine .' )

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the mirr or symbolizes justice and honor , the stone

beads , benevol ence , and the sword , courage and deci­

sion .

"The justice , the hnnor , the benevol ence ,

the courage end the decis i on r epr esented by the three

~rticlos of Imrer ial Rorelia ar e the gr eet i deals of

nur EMp ire . These ar e our ne.ti0nnl virtues v1hich the

:Emper or himself h~ s set up r s his i deals .

"Since the Lge of Gods , the way of the Em­

per or has been truly f l 0ri0us on<l s hininf . The t is

the so- called Imperial '?ay , nnd when we l onk back

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upon the gl orious hist0ry of J~~an, we find th~t t his

Inrcrial , .. fl.Y shinGs t hr ourh it Cl)nsistently o To pr o­

t ect this way , t 0 M~ke i t m0r e ~lorious e.nd t o advance

in this nann0r should be the only i deal e.nd dut y of

J~1 anesc subjects . (''fri tten nn screen : 1 The ,·.tsuta

Shrine ' nnd ' The I!ciji Shrine '.)

"Tho essence of our nati1 mal str uctur e ltes

in the f act the t we march 0nw~rd , hol 0 ing this i deal

P.l nft with the conc0r d bet ween th0 sover e i gn , and the

subj ects, and \'Ii th the cooi:cr ati'Jn () f ee.ch ~nd all

J .~panese eo

"Now the missi0n of the J ppmeso is quit e

cleer; t her e is nothing t n d,ubt in i t. ~ssisting

the Imr erial rule and cnhancinr the pl ory of t he

Imperial r r esti?e in the world neans r enlization 0f

this Mission of ours .

"However, vm havo observed r ecently tha t

t her e is a Er 0winf t endency amnng s ome Jaranes e t o

blindly CMf hasize f r i vol •1us imptilsive:ness and cri-

curecmisr.i, c'Jrr1rl et ely negl ectinf! the r l 0ries of our

i r.iconrar able n~t i'Jnal str ucture end the essenc e of

our r ncial spirit which shrmld be o bscrvcd by t he

whol e nati()n .

"Ls a natur al r esul t , the br ave and Plagni-

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dininishing de..y by dP.y . ( '"'ritten on screen : Russ i a ,

China , Philippines , J~pan , Mnnchuria , Scene : Bl ack

clouds risinr , c> ncl cnvol 0pinp J~:"an , fr om Russia

anrl the Philirp incs . ) Fur t her nor e , it is t o be gr eat­

l y depl or ed tha t ther e ar e sonc. -- h0wever f ew t hey

rnny be -- who , h?.ving wron~ c~nccptions , neke such

outrereous renarks es t o curse the inc0Mpar able

f l ory of our n~ tion~l structure .

"".'her e is our f a t herland? 1·.'her e is our

f a therland J~ran'? ( t.rpenr s on scr een : Newspe.pers

with erticl es obout Cornnunists.) Oh , my compa t riot s ,

it i s an unpar donPble treason f or country-men of

ours t 0 s~y tha t t here i s a f a t herl and bes ides J apan !

Do we deserve t o be called J riranese if t:1e t hr oVI away

our pride of be ing J ppancse , and f or get about the

spirit of the f ounding n f the Emrire which ains a t

t he r ealiza tion of peace in the Orient , Pnd in the

world?

"Lll of the evil srrinrs frrn~ this .

"Let Me r Gpeat the t it wv. s, nfter ~11, our

0wn f c.ul t th~t t he vmr l rl , incluc1ing even China , has

cone t 0 1~0k down up0n us with contenpt .

""!hat J pran has done i n the rast, wha t our

countr YJ11en have done in the past , i s the ceuse of the

contemr t with which J apPn i s now r e?ar ded . The out-

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break of the ~~enchurian Incident in the ne::mti;:ic vm s

inde ed ?. warninp- bcll reel ed fr"'lr.t the Hee.vens.. 1''e

oust deeply consider the f eet t hnt the siefe of J nran

cnnc!ucted by the whol e world un~ cr the l erdershir of

the Loapue of Netions wns d iscl0scd t o us in this wny.

If the J prunese nntinn has r r nsred this truth cl early ,

the way throufh the r r osont situati0n will 0!1en 0f

itself . The outbreak of the !1c.nchurian Incident was

r eally an plnrn-bell t ellinr us t o wr.kc ur end t o

exanine 0urselves .

"I PM not at Pll ress i Mistic about t he pr e­

sent difficult situation, howc rcr . I firnly believe

that the rresent intcrnati0nal circurstnnc~s nn~ the

vPrieties of di f ficulties that lie bet ween the na tions

will be i rtr:ted i a t ely dissolved ~s soon a s the f r eot

spirit of the fnundinr of the Er1rire r evives in the

heart of every Jnranesc, and when the Jn~Rnese, r eal i­

zing this clearly, display the pr es tire of our countr y .

"The day will cone , sormcr or l a t er , when

wfJ cr.n make the whol e world l ol')k ur t 0 l')Ur nPti.,nal

virtues , I an sure . (nn the screen: In the center '1f

the screen Jp1an l'.nd Ilanchuria arrear , then Chinn ,

India, Siberi~ Pnd tho S0uth Seas.)

"In c0Mrliance 'llith the i doal 0 f the f 0und­

inr of the Enrire which I hove exr l a ined , we nust

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firs t 0 f all establish per~ancnt pence in the Orient ,

r r 0pafvtinf our gl nrious Imrcria l woy ther e .

11".'hen we r ef l ect uprm the situation i n ,·.s i a

durinp these f i fty 0r sixty ycnrs , we fine. tha t it

was ~eplorable bey~nc wor ds .

"Just close your eyes e.nd qui etly c0nter.1-

plate the pRst, then wil l numer ous visions flash

thr ough y~ur mind , visi0ns ~s in n r evolvinf l enter n .

9 "'"hen we think of the chans in the Orient,

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J epanese nat i on , no , the niss i 0n of divine Japan , to

es t abl ish a r enccful Utop i a in the ~rient making i t

trul y Or i ental by supr r essinp nll d isor ders .

" '''hen we r ecall the sever al occasions when

we sent our troor s t o the continent we c~n Plways

find in the In;erie.l Rescrir t on the Declar ation of

,~ar t he ex~ressi0n of n sincer e 0esire t o est eblish

pernanent peace in nSiP. .

"In the Inrer i al Rescrir t s r r rinul fe t ed on the

r es t or ation nf per> ce , the Enrcr 0r a l ways r eninds us

of nur duty t o 11aintnin rer nanent re~ ce in the Orient.

" In these sever nl canre i fns f0 r 1cace , the

sacr ifice !!l<>de by 0ur f pther s anti cont(mr or aries , ond

the endeavors !!lcde by th0se wh0 e.ctue.lly def ended the

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we r eelize that our r esp0nsibil ity 0n the continent ,

I.'ienchuku0 , no, in the . wh0lc of r.s i a is not a new

one , but that it started n l onf ti:ie afo r evealing

our power end i deals steadily ns tine ~rorress cs .

(On the screen : On the n~r of East ~sia bl 0od

spl ashes apree.r \'Ii th the f oll ")\'/inr vnr c1 s surer impos ed I

1 The sacrifice we made in the Sin~-Je.r~ne sc '7ar.'

' The sr crifice we mede in the Boxer Uprisinf .' ' The

sacrifice Y1e M?.de in the Rus so- J c>.rcnese "'Qr.' ' The

srcrifice we nAde in the Gerrnan- J nrancse ·~r .' ' The

sc.crifice we nactc in our expedition to Siberi~ .'

' The srcrifice we made in the Tsin~n Incident. '

"Durinp. this l onr reriod , we have encounter-

e<l all kinds of insults and of national crises . ,., .e

have suffered under t he Intervention 0f the Three

Powers, end we heve secrificed nuch in Siberia.

n·:·e have endeo.voured t 0 r ealize ou::- i denl ,

with the cooperation of China , but re?ce h~s n0t

been est ablished ther0 , even fo r n short period of a

s in?le year durinr the t wenty years since the esteb-

lishment of the Chinese Republic . The Chinese f eel -

inf t owl'rds Jppe.n chanf!cd frrm b~.d t o w0rse , thl't is ,

the f eeling of r eject inf' the Jr~pmesc chc.nged t o <'.

feeling (')f op~osinp the Jr.panese , r:nd eventually be­

ce.Me a contempt 0f the J E' re.nese . ,·.na f inelly the

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Me.nchurian Incident broke out by n revel~tion 0f

Heaven. (On the screen: Various l".nti- Jr:.renese pos ­

t ers end pl acar ds in China .)

"Thus the !!anc.l-) urinn Empire was f oun0.ed , a s

you all know, and the blessed l and of benuty Pnc

lif ht is t 0 be r eal i zed in As i e .

ttJ c>pen ~nd !:nnchuku 1 will '.mrk t orether,

end with the coorcr e tion nf Kor ea , will first of all

es t ablish rence in the Orient . The first s t er t ownr d

pr 0pagating the Im~er ial we>.y Pnd t 0v1c> r d <.".rdinp- lustre

t 0 the n2ti0nal virtue he s r lrcady been mP.de . J a}an

and 1-1C"nchukUQ's firm f a ith in the est~blishment of

Menchukuo will r e.move all d i ff icult situa t icms e.nd

will s ecure the rermnnent peace ih .. ~s ia . F0r · the

Japanese, it will be the best we.y t o enhance t re

Imperial way , Pnd f or the rtanchurians , it will be the

bes t way t o establish a pnr adise in f·fanchukuo , the

l and of f elicity, in ncc0r dance with t he spirit of

the way of sover e i r n, which is t heir i deal. (On the

screen : t .. r.iap of J apnn end ~~t.nchuku0 .)

"Therefor e , I de~ ir e tha t all r P. ces will

cooperate wit h eFch other in re~lizing t he ir i deal s

Pnd fulfillinf t he ir r.iissions .

"I have r el a t ed so f P.r , the neanin{? of J P.pan

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J ap:mese in nakinr. our wo.y throuph this peri0d ,

thereby cmrhasizin[.' the nccesstty of strenu'">US ef ­

f orts t '1w? rc-:; the fulfillment of our miss i on .

11Furtherm0r e , the mi .,. s ion of the Imrier ial

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PrMy is not of ~n e2sy nnture , since it lies in ~r0-

t e cting the Imrerial way v1h ich unifies ~nd he'.rr.!onizes

the true spirit 0f the f ound in? 0f the Enpire ~nd

8 the r r eat ideal of the J V.f E'ncsc nRtirm . ''"e r.1ust ex-

9 pect t o find neny obs t ocles in <'Ur way .

10 "However , in or der t ri r0nrwc ?.11 these ob-

11 stacles, thct is, t n fulfill 0Ur mission co~rlctely,

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t o fulfill the true r:iee.ninf 0f the establishment o f

the t1rny e.nd the rniss ir>n of 0ur C'Junt ry, 11e need

na tional defense , end f or n~ tionPl defense , the exis-

' tenco of the Inpcria l er my i s i nrer ntivc .

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To ex~la in national ccfens e in a f ew words , I s ay

tha t i t is t he defensive Pbilities of ~ country , that

i s , the defense of the woy of the n?tion . (On the

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11/ countr y or nrtion has its ovm way . Th e

way nf our country i s the w?y of JerPn , the way of

the Ernrer l")r, t he IBrerial way .

"Cons equently, ns this is the nat i on <>nC.

way which has everlastin~ life , it i s in its nature

t o continue permenently end et ernally in tL~c rnd t o

pr ogr ess end devel 0p endl essly in sp?.cc . I woul(~ not

adopt such r n?rrow viewrnint t ha t inter r r cts the

defense 0f the n~tinn thnt is , the defense of the way

of the countr y in t er ns of veorr r.r hic :--osition and

envir onment . (On the screen : ' The I;i_ erinl ·'.~r.y .

To def end this is the miss i on 0f the Inrericl Arny

1. In srace . 2 . In time . 3. Enl a:-fnGnt end deve­

l opMcnt . 4 . Eternity r nd continuity.')

"J<'ranese n?tional anthcn bcinr pl ayed .

11Thoref0re , when we say that the existence

of the hr my is a rnor al existence , ne neAn it in the

above Mentioned sense -

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spece , tha t is , ns it has tho spirit of c0ntinual

r r os r.erity, .withthc et ernity of a netion v1hich is

bounded onl y by Heoven and eArth, our ncti0nal def ense

cannot be consider ed 0nly in t er IJs of gc~rraphy or in

a narrow sense 0f nrros i tion t o 0ther c0untries .

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is the cnuntr y whose n?tional structure consists in

the combination of r ll three .

" In our country , those wh0 s t anrl as the

shield of our r r acions Er.trer or, observinf t he sr i r it

of n~tional structure , P.nd with0ut any C)ncer n ?bout

their own inter es ts ar e nl' turally th0se who deeply

r espect and defend the r ace untl t he c0untry.

"In short , the nrny ,.,f our C''untry is the

Emper or' s a rny which is a t t he snne ti~e the national

r r r.iy .

"Ther ef or e , I c~nsider t he Pr My as the es­

sence of the nationa l virtues .

"To treed 0n the fl3 th 0f the Emper or which

is r.iade arrar ent by the t hr ee J.rti cles of the Inperial

Reralia is the s r irit with which nur ar my is or fanized.

Tha t is , the spirit 0f the J ppPnes e f orces is r ealized

when they enhance the na tione l virtues , t he i deals of

the Emper or in conpliC".nce •:lith the s r irit of the

sacred Emper or wh0 cmmenct s t hen .

"This is the r eason why the Je.rnnes e army

never starts ?n pct on unless bcinp comnanded by the

Enper or.

"'1e r.ius t first clePrly bear in 0ur mind that

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true spirit of tho Japanese nrmy.

"It is, of course , exrected of the arny t o

fic:ht ar:- inst th0se wh0 orrns e us in spr ead inf.: t he

I mperinl way . But , the purp0se 0f fi ?htinr is s ol e-

5 ly t o observe virtue a nd t o cnrry it out . N~turally ,

6 it is necessar~r t o r1 in, but i f the victor y shoul d be

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8 ed , it is quite aa ver se t o t he s r irit of t he I mperia l

9 ar my.

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the pl ace . That is the true spirit of the Imper i al

~rmy , throurh which the gl ory of our nntion will be

enhanced .

"Even c'lur inp- riOneuvers, if t he crops ar e

damar ed by the actions of the orny , it is an inportant

thing for the ar my t 0 t ake cer e t o m~ke as much ~mends

as possible durinp r ecess or on other occasions , f or

the crors are tho tre~sure of the Emper or ~nd the

peasant's - our coMpatriot' s - works of art.

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------------- - - -------------"Now, I should like t o say a few words

a bout t he orig in and t he hi stor y of the Imperial

army .

"When oPr c<w'1tr y wo s estsblis11ed , our

army was composed of 8 . 000 , 000 "Gods of Wara

/ ' gunsl:in ' / , t hat ia to say , the people who

guarded our divi ne land , under the personal con ­

mand of the Emperor .

11 In t he rnidd l e a ges , hov1e ver , t he warriors

cons t itut ed a s pecially pr ivi l oged class, with

the result t ha t a feudal age was ushere d in .

"Fortunately, howeve r, wi t h the ac1'ieve ­

ment of t he g r eat underta kings of t he MEIJI

Re stora tion , the Irrperial Reacript on Military

conscri pti on Vias issued in Novembe r 1872 , (the

5th y ea r of MEIJI) whe r eby the basic principle

of unive rsal mi l i ta rtJ conscr5.ption was revi sed

as of yore .

"This wa s indeed the greatest reform of

the pa st t housa nd years .

" I n short , we r etur ned t o t he n orma l

path of the time of our country 's est abl i shment .

T;,e privileged and prof ess i ona l troops wer e a bol­

i s ~1ed , the f our social classes made equa l, sol cUe r s

and f armers combined , and at the same t ime the

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r esponsibi l ity for '(;ho national defense was put

upon the whole of the peopl e , and the troops were

placed under the persona 1 command of the Eriperor

as was the case in and.ent times.

11 Thus our Army and 1'ia vy , r eflectil1G

upon t he basis of the f ounda ti on of our conn·:;ry

and s t r iving at the same time to train t he ir

soldier s pirit by upi.10l cling the v1i ll of Eeaven ,

!1a ve remembered the glorious rdlito r y ·1erits an.d

dis tingui shed. services of t~1c p~1st 60 J€a rs , and

have endeavored to fulfil l their i.1ea vy respon-

s1bility as a mora l existence in order to achie ve

the mission of t he Im:10ria l forces .

"Reflectine ul)on the past and also c on-

s i dering t he present eenera l state of national

defense , I wish to dYIA 11 r.ere a li ttle upon tbe

subject of national goneral mobilization.

11 In both the Sino- Japanese Viar and the

Russo- Japanese Wa r , Japan , it is needless to say ,

fought by staking t he country ' s existence , but

the principa 1 body which d1spla yed t he strength

of national dofenso m\o the military forces .

'l'he pe ople as a nhol <' vcre nclther organized nor

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genoral mobilization .

11 Judg5_ng from recont circumstances , pre -

parat i ons for nation\'lide gene r a l mol.Jiltzat:ton a re

necessar y for concentrQtinf' t ho u t mo3t nationa l

defense poY1e r of tho country .

ilit would rcq_ui r o rr:.any hours to d <; scri':ie

in detai l this nationY1idc [;On.o ral mobilization,

but, i n short , i t is '1~:10 mobilization of all the

p or!er s of a natl on, botr tangible end i npanRible .

il •r11ere is no change in tho fact t ha'i:; tie

ba ttlc in the ma in :i. s f 0"1:g11t by troops , but vie

can easily i magine t~1a ·~ tho stron(5th or v1eakness

of t he spiritua l pO\:-cr of t110 pe ople ultirr.ateJ.y

dete rmines the issue of r10r , o s may be seen from

the interna l condi ~ions of Garmany , Ru.ssia , and

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Militar y Tribunal f or t he Far t c.st is now r esumed.

THE PRESIDENT : Continue with the r icture .

"i•ddressing the Japanese after the Russo-

J apanese "lar, the Lrmdon Times sa i d :

' The victory you won in tho r ecent Russo­

J <:!.panese '":'ar , i s indeed due t o the sp j_r itual uni on

of the Japcnese.

10 J upnn ! I cannot but hore th~t you woul d

pr eserve this nobl e s r i rit and in"lort~l izc this

stren~th and this i cteel by all ~e~ns , even if you

shoul~ l ose all of your nRteri?l t hinr s .

' If the whol e of the J C'rnnese peor l e shoul d

make the ~nst 0f this s r iritual el enent end becone

united on this basis , not onl y Rus s i e but the wt:ol e

world would not be abl e t o conquer Jq;['m . ' 11

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London Ti.mes .

111J1C. now, in cl.iscussinp- here nr-tional de­

f ense , in thinkin? of the IMrerial forces , r:nd in

consider inf£ ar maMent , I keenly f ool hm1 essential

this rw.npower is c>nd above all how essential the

sp iritu~l el ement i s .

"Not only from our ovm viewroint as J~pc>.n-

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fr om the stRndpoint of for e ipn countries , J pren hes

b or stroDg p0ints , e s~irit of her own Pnd n r oad of

life t o pr oceed on.

0 Lastly, I want t o state briefly rer~rding

arnaments . It eo0 s without s~yinb thfl t erM~nont is

necoss~ry, but it r ests r rirwrily on MPnr0wer , end r.mn­

power r ests first of all on its s r iritual e l oAent.

However, judfinf! frm'!l the r ctm~l scene rm the front,

it cnnnot be thou~ht thnt vict0ry can be a chieved by

mnnrower nnd by the spiritual el ericmt al one .

"In or der t o neke the be~ t 0f nanr'0wer l".nd

s1 iritual el enent so ns t o :-1 ininize the disasters and

t o r estor e ponce quickly , no t arial equipMent is neces­

sary .

"It is ~rlnarily f or this rur~0se of naking

tho nost of the n0hle Jarancse Spirit Dntl the whol e

i deal of the Imreria l f orces thc t we ar e tc-.king such

p.rent pains in r erar d t o equipMcnt .

"I horc , y0u will under stnnd th~ t nP.tional

defense is the neons of i' r ot ecting Jrron ' s way , thnt

the Inperi?.l f orces ar e her e t '1 ex~lt the virtues of

the Enper or by obeyinp. His Ml'. j csty ' s connands as they

are r iven, Pnd tha t arnA~ents c0nstitute nn es~ential

el eMcnt in /fostcrinp/ in the n0st direct nanncr the ir

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" (On the sere en: f l chart shovrin~ t he nun-

ber of a irplanes rossesEed by powers: Engl"nd 1500

Russia 2200

Jnrnn 600

i.meric~ 1800

Fr~nce 3000

Itrly 1 500 )

" (On the screen is written: 1 1''ith eternr-.1

9 pe~ce in t he Orient ns tho pocl the J.r r.ty of right-

10 eousness cdv~nces . Thnt is the r enson why the Im-

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13 "Such beinr t :-te c:\se , it i s a f r e"t crr')r 'to

14 l ook upon our neti0nal def ense , the Inper icl hroy

15 which nssUMe s this duty , ~nd the sufficient arnaments

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J.rny to d isplr-.y their :>Ctivi ties , in the se.me light

as those of other countries .

" I wish t o "dd here thrt it is most essential

in displ r-yi ntz the sririt of univcr snl Military con­

scription of the Ynr.ic-.t o r ace thnt we fully understand

the f act that national defense , Ir1pcrial l.rmy and ar na-

ments r enain t o t he l as t P.S n')r al entities end as Means

of naintaininr our Mnr ality.

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actual scense of drills executed by the students of

the Infnntry School s nnd tl·e Ct-.valry Sch0ol on the

Narashino pl a in, Chiba Prefecture ."

There ar e nn sreeches in this r~rt by '7a r

Minister /.R;J<I .

11Finally, I want t 0 appec-1 t o ny co~1pe.triots

whon I l ove and r espect , t o urre t ren t o nake ur

8 their Minr1s . Jin e.ncient SE' r e t c:.u!."ht us , ' "'hen Heaven

9 is r oinf' t 0 entrust a per son with an inportant duty,

10 He ~lways inflicts pnin and ho.r clship upnn hir.i , in

11 or der t n dot ernine whethor he is cerable of carrying

12 out his r.i i ssion .'

13 '' ~lso, es y~u know, ther e is enother r r o-

14 verb : 'J.dver sity Makes A nc.n Ylise. 1 That is t o say,

15 nnn cannot achieve a f r ea t thine •Ji t hout grappling

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ar e , the gr en t or ar e the pl easures one cen enjoy after

the success .

11!.s I snid bef or e , t he true sr irit of the

Jcranese r nce lies in finr1 inf order aMi d chaos and in

r cnlizing an ideal world. In other wor a s, our racial

sr irit f r on ancient tiP1os i s t~ nnke , with strenuous

off0rts , Pn ideal v1 orld , P. rcaceful l and throufh hard-

ships and d ifficulties . Ther e f nr o, the Jap~nese can-

nnt live in J"e.ren with f eeble f eelinrs. To fif ht to

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0ur noral s are t o r r actice the nay of justice and

benevol ence , it is necessary f0r us ti") have cnurafe ,

as str l")n? as a swor d , t o pr actice it , t o carry it

out r esolutely a t ~11 costs . It is necess~ry f 0r us

6 t o have the spirit , enthusinsn and endur P.r.c0 t o stand

7 up defiantl y ~nd fifht t o the l ?.st , if ther e is any-

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"CoMr~atriots l Let us l nrik ct the situat i on

10 in t.s i a . Is it t 0 be l eft unarionc~ cc1 f or evr r? In

11 or~ er t o r e?lize the i deel nf our Lsia tic r~ces and

12 t n c'1ntributc t o ·.v('lrld per. cc , v:e nust first estab-

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ment of that country Pnd nust exert our selves in as-

s istinr a sound c1eve1·opr12! nt of the: cuntry , so as t o

r ealize a r eal M of reacc and :-'r l") sper l ty in P?nchuria . '

Tr)(lay , Manchurie is called t he life- l ine of riur coun­

try , but it is not a life- line t o s P. tisfy n0r e appe­

tites f or f o0c1 . Our supr e11e niss i l")n is , I believe ,

t o Qake a par Rd ise ther e , by r oclizinr the nobl e sririt

of the Japanese r ace , and of the Jaranese nation as

well as the spiritual culture of ~sia o

"So , we nust 10ok , we ou('ht t o 100k Uf')TI

Manchuria a s a moral l ife-line ~ In short , in view

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ture , Orientel nor als known t o t he worl ct at ~ny cost ,

and ther eby t o ~ake the world r ecognize cl early tha t

the East exists . For t r.is ~urr~se , Ja~an f0r her ­

self nust r ealize a sta t e , a t the heod of ~ther s , es­

tabl ishe~ by the J ?pnnese spi rit , J rranese Mor als ,

J aranese culture which r err esent the whol e Orient.

In 0ther wor ds , I believe JLran rms t do her utmost

t o nanifest her true char octcr, t o devel op ~£r pnwer

t o t ake the l eed , t o cultivate her nor al charecter ,

in the ncnifest otinn '1f the nor a l r rincipl es . In

sh'1rt, ?lthourh the worlf! situation is p.r ?ve , we do

not f eel discnura~ed . Today 's r~in i s to~orrow ' s

success . It is t he ra in of nountain-clinbin? . It

is the ~ P.in of an ovmer of a little sh0r in a back

str ee t struggling t o r.iake his way to t ho r?a in str eet.

Indeed , I bel~ve it i s the ~reet challenr e gr anted

our nation t o t eke o bold l car , a trial on 0ur way

t 0 the glorious future . There i s vr eat pl easure a f t er

r r cat pain . I think tha t it is odver so f ortune which

rn~kes a country ~roat .

"Now , J n ran , like i1t . Fuji t owering abrupt ­

ly in the sky ~bove the norn in:! mi s t, i s P1Fkinf a

displ ay of her ~apnificPnt beinf befor e t he whole

wor l d . It is y- r eciscly t he true f irure of the J ppan-

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ese Empire. I feel that fresh pride , eMotion,

couras;e and rleasure rise up within r.ie when , inspired

by that figure, the singular r acie.l spirit is r e­

vived in m~rself and I Make up "lY nind t o exalt the

virtue of the divine country.

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spirit will reveal itself in cases of eJ:11er rency.'"

Thnt is nlso written on the screen.

11How renssurin{' w0 f eel when we encounter

the nurnberous instances of our peoi:.l e enhancing their

true sr irit s ince the outbrenk of the Hanchurian In­

cident.

"My conpatriot s whor.:i I l ove and honor, I

beseech you t o r evive in your h~arts t he cournf eous ,

beautiful, and clear sririt which has been hended

dovm t o us from t he ti.Mo of the est~blishnent of our

country, end embr ac ing this sririt , l e t us show to

the world the spi rit '">f str iving onward which is the

characteristics of the Japanese r~ce. In or der to

r ealize a lPnd 0f reace v.nd a ut'>pi a , we Must have

sincerity, ardour and per sever ance as well ns rro­

f ound self-realization.

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the spirit of the Inporia l poem of t he Emper or Meij i

which roes e.s f ollows : ' Ther e is one who r i erced an

i r on t er rct , ther e is noth i nr which cannot be r ene­

tret ed by the s ;- irit of YaMr. t o '. ,·.nd with t his s r i rit

hel d s ecred in our hearts , ue nr e det cr n incd t o serve

the .Ertirer or with P.n iron will throur h this cr isis. "

On the scr een is r ereet cd t he poe~ just

mentioned .

11Fir ends ! The Enpcr or He i j i c> lso says in

his I rnrerial orle , ' If wo concentrate all the efforts

of the thousands Pnd ~ill ions of our subjects, I an

sure ther e is nothinr which Ct'nnot be c~one ' "•

~".nd that i s c l so \Jri tten on the scr een ,

eventually.

"It is needl ess t o scy , tha t without waiting

f or the London Tines ' advice , we nus t s t rive onwards

w,i th decis ive steps , the whole nation united with

this one s r irit . Then the ePst ern sky uill be flood­

ed with cel estial lir ht , end the future destiny of

Jaran , nay of the whol e Asia , will be gl oriously deve­

l oped befor e us, and I fir mly believe t hat with Eur ope

r nd the United States , we cnn brinf P b~ut the ever ­

l as ting peace in the wh~le world .

"I will end ny speech f erv(;ntl y beseeching

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THE PRESIDENT: Hr . Mcf!anus .,

MR . UcM.~1'!US : I shoul~ like t o call t o the

Court ' s a ttention that the picture started c t r eel

t wo . Reel one WR S not shown . S01"c ?-\)Mbers of the

10 Tr ibuna l saw r eel one . I don ' t know whether ynu nll

11 s een 1 t or not , but I vmult~ just like tha t not ed

12 end called to your Honor ' s ett ention.

l3 THE PRESIDENT; i:ttenpt was rl<-"K~c t o show us

r eel one , but it f e iled . I ~on ' t think Pny of us

obser ved anything excer t sonc shadows 0n the screen .

Perhaps you ar e sufres tinf thet All r~nbcrs of the

Tribunal have not seen or hear ct all of the evidence •

I do n~t shar e that view. Lt this stape ther e is

no nes i r e t o s ee r eel one .

Mr . Donihi .

MR. DONIHI : The def ense nay t ake the

witness .

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one of this pr esent r ic tur e . I woul~ like to s~y

tha t r eel one pr esent s the intr oduc t0ry r er:mrks

of the r r onucer of t he r icture , vnd because of

the f a ct t hat these intr oduct ory r e!1Prks have been

or.1i tted it i s not known wh'1 nede 0r wh'"> r r oc'!uced

7 this picture . I feel tt~t this nnission is quite

8 unfortunate , but tha t is not her e nor t her e now ,

9 and ther ef0r e I shall r r oceed with ny cross - exaninn-

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I BY hlRQ. SUGA.I/ARA:

Now , Mr . '.Vitness , was this picture made by

t he ~ainichi Shimbun?

A Yes .

Q Is it a picture made by t he ~ainichi Shimbun

as a means of propaganda based upon the speech -- one

of the speeches of Gener a l ARAKI?

A This picture was produced in t he year 1933 .

Not having been a sro ciated with t he production, I am

not acquainted with the detnils. However, as I under­

stand, a recording was f irst mace of War Minister

ARAKI 1 s speech and the picture was pr oduced l a ter as

a picturization of his speech.

Q In consequence , the ltlninichi Shimbun i s solely

r esponsibl e for the production and the story of the

picture, and ARAKI only offered hi s speech ; isn't that

the case?

A Yes . But as the int er pretation of tha pic­

ture was given by War Minister ARAKI and since the

picture wos previewed before him as well as by the

leaders of the V!ar Mi ni stry before it was made public,

I am sur e tha t '!ar Minister ARAKI and other 'Nar i:inistry

leaders approved of and aff irmed t his picture .

Q I am not asking you, Mr. •:11 t ness , your opinion.

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I just wanted to kno\'/ the background of the production

of this pictur e . It seems to us outsiders that General

ARAKI -- it seems as though General ARAKI is responsibl e

for the production of the picture because he is

constantly shovm in the picture while he is making a

speech.

THE PRESIDENT: That i s a s t atement .

I.ffi . SUGAWARA & But I should imagine that the

Tribunal knows that ARAKI is not re spons ible for the

pr oduction of the picture .

A In the title of the first r ee l of this pictur e

it is shown that the pr ess section of the VJar Ministry

super vised the p~oauction of the picture and , there ­

fore , naturall y this production is the responsibility

of the War Off ice ,

Q Although it was not shoVJn during the repre-

sentation, Mr . KIDO, Genr yo , the Chairman of the Bra rd

of Director s of the Mainichi Shimbun, gave a speech a t

the very outset of the picture .

THE MONITOR: Recommending this picture to

the public .

Q (Continuing) And the '.Jar Ministry also gave

a letter of recommendation to that picture . Now, Mr .

~itness , don ' t try to define the question of respon­

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questions. Are you aware of the f act that t his picture

was produced immedintely after Japan's cessation from

the League of Nations?

A Yes .

Q I n those days Asia was in complete chaos . The

Manchurian Incident developed into a r eal war. The

League of Nat ions did not r ecognize this f actor and

sent in a report to that effect.

THE MONITOR: And moreover, Japanese people

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that situation and· forgot to reflect upon themselves .

THE MONITOR: I s the witness awar e of this

f ac t?

THE PRESIDE~IT: You are not entitled to

address the Court under the guise of a question . It

is not for you to t ell the witness what the f acts are

or may be, but mer ely to ask him questions and to

assume nothing about the f ncts except so f nr as they

are already indicat ed .

To prevent that kind of thing for all time, I

will direct the witness not to answer that questionv

But you will be at liberty to put other questions.

Q The War Minister ARAKI ur ged the nation to

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2 THE MONITOR: Correction: I believe that War

3 llinister ARAKI made a statement urging the people to

4 r eflect upon themselves . ·;/hat co you think of that?

5 A Yes . But at the s3me time , Genera l ARAKI at

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8 ohur ian Incident as a God-given opportunity , and in

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secur e peace in the Orient, and thnt for this purpose

Japan must r einforce its nationa l defense and i ncr ease

its nilitary preparations .

Q Wait a minute , Mr . ~itness, I ~ill ask you

other questions .

I can s ee from that picture tha t hRAKI sought

the bnsis f or r etrospect ion of the people in the

history.

THE PRESIDENT : You arc not at liberty to

tell the witness how you vicv1 the pictur e . You may

suggest to him tha t ho views it ln n. certain way or

you may ask him whether he does so . But do not tell him

what your knowledge or your beliefs are , or whnt vie\'1

you take about anything . Jus t nsccr t nin f rom him what

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Could I have your ans~er to my last question?

Yes . I think it i s ns· you have stated .

The history of J apan is based on justice, nnd

t his is nlso cl early shown in thi s pictur e , is it not?

THE PRESIDENT: '"/ell now , I cannot allow you

to put questions that way . I mnke ever~r allovmnce for

Japanese counsel. I nm most anxious to assist t hem.

But they must observe t he or dinary rul es . No wa iver

of the rules of evidence would warrant cou~sel in s t at­

ing what thoy think nr e the f acts . The f acts must be

given by the witness and not stnted by counsel.

UR . SUGA"JARA: Your Honor, I am not stn ting

my opinion. I nm mere ly trying to get the opinion of

the witness ; thnt is, tho most important impressions

that the wit ness has got from thi s pic ture . And I nm

only trying t o n.ssi st him in doing so .

TdE PRESIDENT: I t hi nk you will succeed if

you put your f orm of question at t he b eginning and not

a t the end.

~ Mr. Witness , you stat ed -- you used the wor ds

"aggr ess ive" nnd " conquest" in speaking about tho

picture . To ~hich scone of the picture do you r ef er

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a. -; 1 torinl nnd states t~~t even if J apan loses all her

material possess ions , still if she had her spiritual

unity Japaq could never be conquered; and further, tha t

if Japan proceeded with this spiritual unity of the

people the J apanese people had nothing to fe~r . In

the picture there appears a chert showing t he number

of military planes possessed by the world power s . In

the column r epresenting Japan ' s a ir power, t he figure

given is 600 planes . But this picture also shovJS t hnt

if the ~ap~nesa spirit is demonstrat ed t o the fullo st,

it shows the picture wher e J npnnese pl anes sweep away

the plane~ belonging t o the other milite.ry powers .

1.fo.s it not en ndc.ition made by the scenario writer ,

and the producer himself i s not r espons ible for it ,

is he?

THE ~ONITOR : Correction: The speaker himself

is not responsible , i s he?

A ~es . But the Mi nistry of War nor General

ARAKI hae shown no opposition t o this pictur e .

Q ~he stntemant to the effect thnt 600 plnnes

of Japan should sweep nw:J.y nll the pl:tnos in the whole

world ml·tl used just as nn cxnmple of spiri tue l power~

wasn 't it?

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the virtue of t he nation. Didn ' t you get that impr es ­

s ion strongly?

A Yes , I did.

THE PRESIDENT: Counsel , you ar e asking the

witness f or his opinion, you know , of these things . I

do not think he should be nsked to give it . If you

objected to his giving his opinion we very likely

would uphold your obj ection. But you a r e o.sking for

his opinion and you ar e getting adver se r eplies.

This is a matter upon wh ich v;e need no ~ xpert

assistance. It is for us t o i nter pret th~t pictur e ,

subj ect, of course , to any specia l f eatures of a

technical character being expl ained by evidence .

Q Lastly, Mr. 'Iii tness , wer e you not strongly

impr essed by the l a st portion of the speech , in r1hich

he says thnt the world peace should be brought about

through a close cooperation vii th the United Sta tes and

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of other powers away, was it not used as n sort of

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the virtue of the nation. Didn 't you get thnt impr es ­

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A Yes , I did .

THE PRESIDENT: Gounsol , you ar e asking the

witness for his opinion, you knov1, of these things . I

do not think he should be csked to give it . If you

objected to his giving his opinion we very likely

would uphold your objection. But you are ~sking for

his opini on and you are getting adver se r eplies.

This is a matter upon which v;e need no c xpert

assistance . It is for us to interpret th~t picture,

subject, of course, to any special f eatures of a

technical char acter being explained by evidence .

Q Lastly, Mr . ~itne ss , were you not strongly

impr essed by the l ast portion of the speech, in ~hich

ho says that the world peace should be brought about

through a close cooperation v1ith the United States and

Europe .

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that is of no VQlue whatever to this Tribun~l, which

must f orm 1 ts ovm estim:itc from the v1or ds used by

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THE PRESIDZIIT : No, we cannot -- r1e ll, there

lO is no objection taken to it . But I o.ss ure you thnt

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I:? Q Hhat do you thinlt is tho mos t import ~nt

l3 point which the speaker in tho picture wanted to

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THE PRESID~NT: Ther e , aga in, the ans\'1er will

JG not help. That speech has no technical f eatures . If

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lY tion on the words attributed in tha t picture to General

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2:i, London Time s editorinl. But what I wished foremost to

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Q lily last questi on woulu bo this: ·;!hnt is your

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MARSHAL OF THE COURT: The Interna tional

Military Tribunal for the Far East is now r esumed .

THE PRESIDENT: I s t her e an~r further

cross- examination?

Captain Kl e iman.

CAPTAIN KLEIMAN : This , may it please the

Tribunal, is in connection vd th the direct t estimony

given by this witness some time previously. Jus t

t wo ques tions .

K I M B E I N A K A I, r eca ll0d as a witness on

behalf of the prosecution, r esumed the stand

and t estified as follovJS :

RECROSS-3XAh.IN/~T ION.

BY CAPTAIN KLEIMAN:

Q Mr . Witness , i sn 't it a f oc t that after 1938 I until December 8, 1931 there was nn average of thtrty-

1 five hundred American films imported and shown i n

Japan?

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tar y forces?

A It is a f act .

Q Isn 't that one of the main r easons why ther e

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7 A I cannot gra sp the meaning of the question.

8 THE PRESIDENT: Just repeat it .

9 Q Following the China Incident in 1937, you

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f i ed about . VJasn ' t one of the main r easons for the

decrease of non- propaganda Japanese pi ctures the

f act that motion pictur e per sonne l and equipment

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I cannot say that that was the dircc1'

TEE MONITOR: It is not necessar i ly so .

CAPTA I N KLEI .iAN : No further cr oss - exami-

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tm. LOGAN : Thnt i s all.

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r equest which I am about to pr esent ! wish t o state

to the defense i s slightly differ ent than I had di s ­

cussed ni th thee resulting fror.i a di scussi on with

Mr . Keenan in the l ast f ew c1oments .

It was in t ended that the next witness called

by the prosecuti on should t estify i n each of three

phases as each phase pr esentod i tself . \'!e now a sk

if it is agreeable t o this Tribunal that that witness ,

while on the stand, be enabled to t es tify as to each

of the three phase s for which he was brought here .

THE PRESIDENT : You vmnt to avoi d calling

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2 THE PRESIDENT: With cal l i ng hi m once , you

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THE PRESIDE~~T : V'hat does the defense say

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1m. LOGAN: If i t pl ease the Tribunal , thi s

has come to us r ather unexpectedly, but it has been

our contenti on right al ong , and the pr osecution hns

ser iously objected t o it , and t hat i s, when a witness

i s put on the s t and , hi s examination on di rect, hi s

information with r espect t o all t he f act s of the

case should be clearly stat0d and exhausted on direct

examination.

THE PJIBSID;,N~: Wel l , t o shorten t he mo.tter ,

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you ask for one only?

MR . LOGAN : With r espect t o this particular

witness , your Honor , r1c mus t object; we ' ve only r e ­

ceived one of hi s affidavits . And with r espect t o

the proposition of l aw ·.vhich I have jus t stated , I

am one hundred percent in f avor of that , but I have

t o t ake 1 t up 1:11 th sor.ic of my col leagues to find out

how the group as a whol e would fee l on that pr opo-

sition .

Th8 theory behind it i s this , your Honor :

That , if this mnn t alws the stand and t estifies to

one phase , and they intend t o use him on other

phases , it aay ve ry well be tha t on cross- examina­

tion the s econd and third phase nay come into the

cros s- examina tion, and it certainly won ' t be condu­

cive t o good , ord~rly pr ocedure f or the pr osecut i on

t o so pr oceed in thi s case .

THE PRESIDENT: I t could not be mor e

r.lixed than it would be if ther e m1s only one direct

examination.

MR . LOGAN : ''!ell, I don t t know of any

courts , your Honor, that would perr.iit a wi t nes s t o

be cal led three times and pcr r.iit three direct exanin­

ations and three cr oss- exar.ii nations without special

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by a oajority, thinks tha t ther e should be three

directs or that you should be allowed to examine hin

in three direct exaninati ons in .succession, each

direct exar.1ination t o be f ollormd by cross-exar.iino­

tion and r eexanina tion.

Dr . KIYOSE , what do you wont to speak

about?

DR. KIYOSE : What do you mean by t he three

phases , please?

MR . PARKINSON: In thi s case , i f the Court

please , ther e is the Manchurian phase , ther e is that

phase dealing with milj.tary aggr ess i on in Chin~ , and

that phase dealing with the treatment of civilian

internees and prisoners of war.

DR. KIYOSE : I undcr s t cnd the intention of

the prosecution as far as the phase of tho ~nnchur­

i on Inc ident i s concerned. However, we haven ' t

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oent of civilians in China. It would be much be t ter

for us if they could t ell us beforehand wha t their

intentions are concerning those two phases .

THE MONITOR: Correc t i on : "Their intenti on"

should be corrected t o "wha t the witness is going t o

t estify. " We do know about wha t he i s going t o

t estify a bout in r egar d t o Manchuria , but we do not

know what he i s going t o t estify t o i n r egard t o

China aggression and the t r eat ment . Ther ef or e , it

would be mor e hel pful if we knew wha t ho Vlill t e s­

tify, then f or the Court t o st art t aking evidence.

MR . PARKINSON : If your Honor pl ease , i t was

intended at this ooment tha t Col onel Morrow proceed

with his opening r emarks on the China phase i mmedi ­

ately f ollowed by the calling of Mr. Powell, the

witness.

THE PRESID!:NT : Ma j or Furness .

MR. FURNESS: I f t he Court please , if t her e

ar e t o be three separ ate direct examinations and

three cross-examinations , the def ense doesn ' t see

why those should not cor.1c up while the phase under

pr oof t o which they r el at e i s be i ng pr oved .

THE PRESIDENT : The decis i on s t ands . I am

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THE PRESIDENT : Yes , I sai d so.

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subject I am concerned with is ''All China Mili t nry

Aggr ession.

"The subject which .1y associates and I vlill

present cover s military aggr essi on i n all China,

except Manchuria, consisting in pl anned warlike

attack and invasi on f or conquest and plunder by

means of modern ar~ie s, naval and air f orces .

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THE PRESIDDNT: Just a moment, Colonel

Morrow. Aren 't you going to fini sh the Manchnrinn

phase first?

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THE PRESIDENT: Pl ease. You wil l mix up

thG r ecord if you do mor e than it need be .

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DIRECT EXAMINATION

BY MR. McKENZIE :

Q ~ill you state your full name, please?

A My name is John B. Powell, P-o-w-e-1-1,

Powell.

Q V'here do you live?

A I am a native of the State of Missouri, but

I now live in New York.

Q Have you ever lived in China?

A I lived in China, in Shanghai, from 1917,

almost continuously, until about May, 1942, f ollowing

Pearl Harbor.

Q What was your business there?

A I was engaged throughout the period in news­

paper editorial work and in correspoP.dence work for

American and British newspapers.

Q Have you ever been in Manchuria?

A Yes, in the course of newspaper work, I

made several trips to tianchur ia . My first trip to

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t hink back in 1923.

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Q What was the occasi on of your visi t t here i n

1931?

A I went to Manchuria in 1931 to cover t he so­

called Manchurian Incident for my own paper, the

China ¥'eekly Review in Shanghai,and for t wo other

newspapers .

Q What were t hese other papers? .

A The American papera'was the Chicago Tribune,

and the British paper, the Manchester Guardian .

Q When did you leave for Manchuria i n 1931?

A Why on the fi r s t boat I could ge t; I think

it was the next day aft er the Incident.

Q Did you go alone?

A No . There were a number of correspondents

on the boat -- British, American, and, as I r emember

now, two or three Europe~ correspondents, and several

Chinese correspondents quite a group.

Q Where did you go first?

A Well, our ship landed at Dairen, and I think

we took the night train immediately after landing for

Mukden, which was the scene of the trouble, of c0urse .

Q Do you r acal l when you arrived in r4ukden?

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A Of Sentember, 1931, immediately after the

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Q What was the cond i tion of Mukden when you

arrived there?

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pation of the city .

Q Do you know anything about the civil govern-

ment?

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of temporary administration there . I understand Mr.

DOHIHARA, then Colonel I believe, or Major DOHIHARA,

was Acting Mayor of the City.

Q What was the first thing you did after

arriving in Mukden?

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correspondents went to t he Yamato Hotel, a Japanese

hotel within the Japanese city within the so-called

rail way zone, and we obtained rooms t here. I think

the next morning I probably~1"tnt ~o the American

Consulate - - that is the usual procedure , so they

will know wher e you are if you get any inquiries

from your home of fice or get telegrams. In my

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A The J apanese ?·iili tary Headquarters was es­

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in charge . We called at his office and established

connection, particularly with the Japanese spokesman,

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Q Describe , please , your visit to General

HONJO's headquarters.

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General's headquarters t he mos t noticeable thing was

a pile of wr eckage , apparent ly frow a r a ilway, in the

hall just outside his of f ice . There was a section of

r ail that was -- r ather one end of it -- r ather

shattered. There was some iron pla t es -- fish plat es,

I think they call t hem -- wher e the r ails 't'E.d been

joined . There was some bent spikes and sections of

some shattered cross-ties, wooden ties. They wer e

piled up in the corridor just outside the office .

Q Was ther e anything else t hot happened there?

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r epr esented the wreckage , an explos i on that had t aken

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wher e this had taken place, out in the country on a

curve a few mil es outside Mukden.

Q 1!1ere you given any pictures at that tirr.e?

A I don't r emember that we were provtded --

I suppose we could have had them for the asking, but

the pictures were shown everyone in order t o , I sup­

pose, fix in our minds the loc ation and the statement

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Q You say this materi al was o.11 gathered in

the corridor outside Gener al HONJO's office?

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out to see the plo.ce wher e this hnd occurred . We

were taken in a notor car to the nearest point and

walked across the fields, the Kaoliang fields,

to where the so- called explosion had t aken place .

Q Will you describe what you so.w t here , please?

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within a distance of fifty to one hundred yards fr om

the scene of the expl osion.

Q Will you continue your answer if you hadn't

completed it, pleas e?

A These bodies were lying on the pathway along­

side the track, and ther e our attention was called t o

the f act that their heads were pointing away from the

Incident as though they had been running. These

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Q Ar e you acquainted with Ben Dorfman?

A Yes . Mr. Dorfman was a research student, &

gradu~te studGnt 'of ·the Ur..lvor si t y of California , who

had been in annchuria f or s ever a l weeks investigating

some economic problem upon which he was basing his

Ph. D. Degree. Dorfman is now connect ed with the

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Q Did you make an independent investigotion of

your own of the alleged expl osion?

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at t hat time. I didn 1 t go i~to it ns thoroughly .

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A Yes . Mr. Dorfman was n r esearch student, a

gradu~te s t ud6Ilt ·of ·toe U~lvor sity of California, who

had been in annchuria for sever a l weeks investigating

s ome economic pr oblere upon which he was basing his

Ph. D. Degree. Dorfman i s now connect ed wi th the

Unit9d States Tariff Comnis s i on in V'ashin~ton, D. c. , but he was t aken on by t he Lytton Commission ~nd spent

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your own of tho alleged explosion?

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at t hat time . I didn 1 t go i:ito it ns thor oughly .

I was in contact with ~1r, Dorfman~ who even went t o

the extent of interviewing r a ilway conductors and

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curred -- over t his space -- according t o the r ail­

way timetable.

Q Did you find any pictures of t he r:ukden

5 Incident f or sale when you arrived ther e?

6 A Yes, I made a search of phot ogr aph shops

7 und -- well, any kind of a shop wher e pictures were

s exhibited·-- I found l arge numbers of pictures of

9 groups of Japanese men in civilian clothes carrying

10 rifles and wearing arm-bands . I collected qui t e a

11 number of these pictures, which wer e -- they wer e

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these pictures?

A Yes, I was -- I t ook these pictures , as I

r emember it, t o the /Lmerican Consulat e t o get t te

transla tor there t o tr anslat e t he inscriptions on

the arm-bands, ~nd t o find nn expl anation of it. I

mi ght say tha t the consul in charge in Mukden at t hat

time was Mr. John Carter Vincent, who is now Chairman

of t he Far Eastern Division in V/ashington, D. c., at

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A These i nsc riptions indica ted th~ t these men

wer e r 0s €rvists , and people ~ t t he Consul3t e and ~ lso

f or e igners who r esided -- who were r F>s i di ng i n Mukd en

nt th~t tima t old us tha t f or sever al days prior to

the so - cnllcd "llukdeh Incident" t he r e h:)d been l ~rre

numbers of tourist. s•-mnle t ourists on the stree ts in

Mukd en for two or three dnys prior t o the Incident .

0 Did you send tht s story to your papers bas ed

on this informntion?

A Yes , and 'l f ew hours ?f t er t he a ppe3r ance of

the Sh~nghni r.ewsp~pers , they dis qppe~rcd of f the

stree ts of Mukden and out of the ~ ~uJrden shops . Ther e

wer~ no more obt~in "lble ther e .

Q What was it dis nppe3r ed , ~r. Powell?

A These picture s, I should sa y .

q Now, do vou know Kend ~ll Graham?

A Mr . Kendall Graham w-is the As sistnnt Mnnager

of the Stnnd ~rd Oil Comp~ny in I~kd cn ot t he t i me of

the Inc ident. He hnd been the r e some time pr eviously,

h~d been es t ablished in Shnngha i .

Q Wha t, if anything, did you do vii th him?

A Gr1ham took me i n his c ~r p"ls t the J qp1n0se

Uj.lit~ry Compound in Mukd <:?n , A l ll r ge a r ea , prob~bly t wo

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Q Well, did you see anything else ?

2 A Why , Grahnm stopped his ca r ll t n plac8 wher e

3 we could, stcnding on the fender , could loo~ ove r

4 the f ence . He call ed my a tt0ntion t o t wo l3rge bu!ld-

5 ings in t he compound . They looked like b~rns enti r ely

6 covered with corruE~ tAd iron. The thing thqt attr1cted

7 our ~ttention, attrRcted my 1tt0ntion, he s1id th~ t he

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was sh~ttered, long strips of this corrugAtcd iron blown

out wrapped out gr ound the top of the building a s though 1

a he1vy exploston h~d t~Y.en place inside.

Graham told me thnt those bu~ldings had housed

tha heavy guns or howitzers which the peopl e of 1fu~den

had heard on t he night of the occupntion, but no one

h~d been able t o see on the stree ts the next d~y . Thvse

buildings h~d hous ed hcnvy guns whlch h~d been brought

in as mining equipment according to the story he h3d

hear d.

0 Wer e ther e nny press rules th~t you hnd to

observe in Jap1nese t erritory?

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A Why, Grahnm stopped his car ot n place wher e

we could, s t anding on the fender, could loo~ over

the f ence . He call ed my ntt0nticn t o two l3rge bui ld ­

ings in t he compound . They l ooked like b~rns entirely

covered with c orruf~ tAd iron. The thing thit attr~ cted

our ~t tention, at tr~cted my ~ttcntion, he s: id th~t he

h~d seen this bofore sinc e he hnd been going by t her e

all the time . But tho ~nds of these b1rns or buildings

had been opened up, but th~ g~ble pnrt above the door

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h~d been able t o see on t he s tree ts the next dn.y . Thvse

buildings had housed hc~vy guns whtch had been brought

in as mining equipment according to the s t ory he h3d

heard.

0 Wer e ther e nny press rules thr t you hnd to

obse rve in J ap:nese t erritory?

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deposi ting our pr e ss cs rds ~t the t olegr 1ph office which

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the beginning , there was very little intcrfe r 0nce with

the work of the correspondents . L~ter, however, th\ ~

we gere somewhat r estricted ~nd were followed by gen-

4 d ~ rmerie agents who would follow us in a car, usunlly

5 whenever we mAde any trips. This becqme r~ the r tiresome

6 and on one occasion I once compl3lncd to the J np1nese

7 Consulate nbout it . I think Mr. MORISHIEA who w3s

8 here the other day was Consul Gener a l a t that time .

9 Mr. MORISHH1A, I r emember, on thnt occ.:i sion assured

10 me thnt I hAd nothing to fenr from this man, thnt

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at the t el egr aph office?

A Well, the custom is to lc1vc your press card

at the t elegraph offi ce until you t1kc a trip to

nnothcr place . Then you call and get your c~rd nnd

t ake it to the new place, then d0posit it . That is

your authori ty to any messages t o your newspaper .

Tha t ls a wel l-known custom.

Q Did anything unusuql ever occur when you

picYcd up your pr ess card a t t hn t time?

A Yes . On one occrsi on we were making a trip

to Harbin in N,.. rth I~anchuria and I went up wi t h another

man to get our pr ess cards and as we were leaving the

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building , a clerk followed me outside and told me t hat

he had handled all of my messages and that he generally

approved of v1hat I had sent. But, he said, "You rrust

be very_ careful . Someone May ki ll you . That was the

statement he made .

Q Did you learn of any drastic or inhurrane tac ­

tics e~ployed by the Japane se to~ards the i nhabitants

of Manchuria?

A There were stories i n circulation from Chinese

sources of vjllages being wiped out in retaliation

f or harboring so- called "guerri l l as " or "bandits."

Those stories we re constantly in circulation. I person-

ally did not see any of that, but I heard of it .

Q Did you report any of the se s t ories or pr int

any of them in vour paper , The China Weekly Review?

A One such story v1hi ch was \Videly printed and

r eported concerned the killing of some three thousand

villagers, some village i n Hanchuria which had a llegedly

harbored guerrillas or native forces, and the story

was to the effect that the inhabitants of this village

had been taken outside to the edge of a gully and

machine gunned, and their bodies pushed over into the

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2 accounts v1 i ll be -,.,orthwhile, you know that .

3 We recess now for fifteen minutes .

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------------ - - - ------- ------·--MARSHAL OF THE COURT : The International

I hlilitary Tribunal f or the Far East is now r esumed .

MR . McKENZIE : In connect ion with the

President 's remarks jus t prior t o r ecess, I believe

the next two or t hree questi ons will clear t hat matter

up .

THE PRESIDENT: Apart altogether from the

r eference to atrocities, this witness has given a

number of details v1hich might have led· so!llewhere but

which amounted to no thing .

BY MR . 1icKENZIE (Continued ) :

Q What , if any , attempt did you make to in­

vestigate or verify that s t ory?

A The pl ace where t his particular incident had

occurred was a long distance fr om f.lukden and in an

occupied area where i t wa s imposs i ble f or any foreigner

to travel at that time, but t his particular s tory, as

well as others of a similar nature , not only were

r eported from Chinese sources but also by mission-

aries.

\t Vas this story r ela ting to the 3 ,ooo victims

published in any of the papers, and if so which one?

J.. Yes . This s t ory was carried by the news

services and was widely printed in the United States .

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because the Japanese Consul General, ·whose off ice was

in our building, called on t he editor the following

day and protested at the publication of this stor y .

MR . BROOKS: If the Tribunal please, I want

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published in the newspapers and gave an opportunity

to the Japanese to contradict it .

AIR . McKENZIE: I believe t he completion of

the answer will show the probative value of it, if

the Tribunal please .

THE PRESIDENT: I r epeat , we insist on having

authentic accounts .

WR . McKENZIE: May the witness be per mitted

to compl ete his answer , if the Tribunal please?

THE PhESIDENT: We have to trust you to that

extent .

THE · ·11TI!ES~: : In t his case , the editor asked

the Consul Genera l to i'ind out exactly \·1hat did hap­

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days later the Chicago Tribune printed an interview

with the Japanese Consul Gener al on the f r ont pace ,

the heading of whi ch said, "No massacre; only 3,000

killed -- only 300 killed . "

THE PRESIDE1~T: You understand, t he world

hear d these allegations . We are here '; o get the

e71dence that supports the al legat i ons and you are

giving us the allegations over again .

llffi . McKEN~IE: It was my belief t hat the

statement of the Japanese Consul explaining it would

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13 THE PRESIDE~T: Have you taken the t rouble

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which you have just r eferred?

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Q What became of them?

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Q And you haven ' t seen your papers or any of

your files since that time?

A I haven ' t seen the inside of my office since

the morning of Pearl Harbo~ about four o'clock on the

morning of Pearl Harbor .

Q Going back for a moment to t he tourists t hat

you described on the streets at .Mukden , do you know

their nationality?

A Well , the so- called tourists were --

MR. WARHEN : If tha Tribunal please , it is

clear that he intends to abandon his previous line of

~ue stioning . We should like to have t he name of the

village and the place it occurred and the approximate

date of the so- called the all eged stor y in the

Chicage Tribune so tha t the defense may trace its

authenticity.

THE PRESIDENT : I think you ought to get

the newspapers, Judge McKenzie . There must be other

copies besides t hose t hat the witness possessed and

which were destroyed .

J\lH. McKENZIE : I might say, if the Tribunal

please , thjs thing came up at a l ate date in the

preparation of our case and there wasn 't time to

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THE PRESIDENT: We want the best evidence , and

we von ' t t ake mere all egations .

Q Going to the question before, I will ask it

agal.n: Referring now to the male tourists on the

streets of Mukden, do you know t heir nationality, and ,

if so , what was it?

.&ffi . LOGAN: I object to that , your Ironer .

It clearly aµpears from his pr evious t estimony that

this witness wa s not in Mukden at the time these

tourists wer e t here .

THE PRESIDENT: I r egret I v.ras talking to

a Member of the Court ·11hen you put your question.

You might r epeat it for my benefit .

11R . McKENlIE : The question was : with

reference to the male tourists that you testified

were seen on the streets of Mukden, can you tell us

their national ity?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, he only heard they

were there and I suppose he only hear d what their

nationality was , but we are to.king hearsay for v1hat

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3 ing ".!onsuls who v1ere living in Mukden at tha t time, a

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the Mukden Incident . I saw Mr. Yuan Chin-Kai on two

or three occasions , on one occasion in the presence of

Mr . Farrar, the Spanish Consul General formerly

stationed i n Yokohama, who was a ssigned by the League

of I\ations to make the trip to Hukden to make t he

initia l investigation of t he Mukden Incident . On

another occasion, I saw this Chinese gentl eman in

company vii th A·ir . Rowell, Chest er Rowell of San

Francisco, who was the r epresent a tive in Mukden of

t he American Branch of the Institute of Pacific

Rel a tions which also sent a man to ~iukden to make e.n

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Q Do you know what position if nny Yuan Chin-Kai

he ld in Mukden a t th3t time?

A I think he was e member of the Feng-Tien

Provinei~l Government .

On both occasions when we interviewed t !1is

man we h~d to go to a secret r endezvous to see him.

Compl ete report s of our interview ~ere sent to the

League of Nations through th0 Spani sh Consul Gener al

at tha t time .

Q Did you discuss nit h him hi s r e l ations with

the J apanese?

A The intervie~ consisted of ~ description of

wh3t had t c:1ken pl ace in Mukden on the night of the

18th of September, a.rn:: the pr es sure r!hich had been

brou~ht on him to accept a position in th~ t amporary

government which the J ap!lncse ··.,ere t r ying to set up in

Mukden at that time .

Q What if anything wo.s sa id about seeking inde­

pendence from Chino.?

A His obj ect ~n s to emphns ize to us not only

~.,ho t hnd happened, but tha.t who.t measures ho had t c:1ken

hnd been in the inter est of the peopl e of !lukden, the

Chinese people, r1ho wor e in a sorlous pr edicament o.s n

r esult of ·1hnt had happened .

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the inauguration of th~ man who t ook tho job r1hich rms

~ off er ed to this gentleman, Mr . Yu.:m . I can ' t think of ' 4 his name offhand .

Q Was ther e anything unusual occurred a t th~t

6 inauguration, or can you t ell us anything about tho man

7 gho succeeded?

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seemed to be steadying himself bec'luse he \'Io s very weak.

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grapher took a flashlight picture ~nc this gentlem~n

nenrly f ainted at the time , he W'\S in such a ~e3kened

condition. He had been under det ention for quite a

l ong period.

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Did you know Gener al Mn Cho.n- Shnn?

General Ma Chan- Sh3n rr:s t he commander of the

Chinese troops in North Ecnchuria . The Chinese troops

in South ge.nchuria under the dir ect command of young 23 The expl o- •

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advised by both the British and American Governments

not to resist, that the Manchurian case would go to

the League ; Chlna would get justice at Geneva •

Q Did you interview General Ma Chan-Shan?

A Yes .

Q ·;/here?

A On two occasions; once at the northern town

of Tsitsihar which is t he capitol of Hei Lung-Kiang

Province, the most northern province of l\lanchuria .

Q What became of his army, if you know, after

his defeat at Nonne River Bridge?

A This interview tgok place aft e r the batt l e of

the Nonne River in which the Chinese t r oops had repulseQ

the Japanese and had delayed their advance by burning

n bridge . While the bridge wns under r epair Ma suc­

ceeded in getting most of his troops out and across the

Chinese Eastern Railway, which was within the Russian

Zone in North Manchuria , up to the t own of Tsitsihar

which is the metropol is of tha t norther n area . It was

in thi s place that we interviewed him.

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f or est of the Hsing-An mountain chain , which is an

isolated ar ea untouched by railroads or motor r oads ,

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sian town of Blagovestchensk.

Q What happened then , if anything?

A It •:ms at ~his point thJ t qenera l DOHIHARA ,

been active in Chinese political affair s in

Manchuria and elsewhere in Chine for many years, entered

the picture of North Manchuria, which, as I stat ed be ­

fore, was within the Russian 1one .

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I.ffi . '.'·!ARREN: If the Tribuna l please, ·we shoul d

l ike to object to this line of questioning , or questi on

this wit ness any further, until first it is establ ished

whether this man is testifying from rumors he had r e ­

ceived as a newspaper man, or whether it is from hear­

say th2t he himsel f received from some source that

should have known . In other woras , ·.•1e h<lve no objection ; I to hearsay.

THE PR3SIDEi.JT: You ar e entitled to know the

name of his informant . Obj ection upheld .

Q Wher e did you obtain t his information with

ref erence to Gener al DOHIHARA?

A The succeeding developments in connection

with General DOHIHARA were widely r eprinted in I should

say all of the newspapers in Manchuria . They wer e a l so

printed in the newspaper s of Japan. They were printed

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official reports bec~tUse General Ma , as r. r esnlt of

the negoti a tions vith DOHIHARA , accept ed t he yosition

of Hinister of Var in the Chang-Chun Government , the

puppet government, which the J npanese had set up at the

time of Chang-Chun.

Q Had you comple t ed your .:inswer ?

A The negotiations l eading t o thase devel opments

wer e conducted from Gener a l DOIIIHARA ' s office which he

establ ished in the city of Harbin .

Q Did you intervt~·. 1 Gener a l DOHIHARA ther e?

MR . WA:tlREN: If .vour Honor . ple~se , it is evi­

dent that the witness is t es tif:,rj ng f r om rumor . Vie

know of many , many newspaper stories th::lt have been

based upQn rumor and in wh:l.ch t her e i s no t ruth, nnd

you have heard t estimony concer ni ng one of them today.

MR . McKENZIE: I do not believe my l ast ques-

1 tion can be object ed to on gr ounds of ca' ' l ng for an t , •}

' answer based on rumor~

THE PRESILENT: The obj ection, of course , goes

to weight and not to admissibilit y. '"le must t ake henr­

say. But we will t ake into account the f act that its

source ~~s in newspapers . The obj ection i s overruled .

MH . McKENZIE: ·;/ill you r ead the l as t qu~stion ,

pl ease .

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the offic ial court r eporter.)

A I di d not interview Gener a l DOHIHARA concerning

t r se developments , but I can gi ve you the finnl chapt er

in t h.s.t episode which occurred aft er I ho.d returned to

Shanghai.

Q Very well .

A After I had r e turned to Shungho.i, necessitat cd

by the outbr eak of ':mr at that city, one night in our

off ice I received a long circul~r telegram which had

been di stributed , hnd been sent, by Gener~l Mn Chan- Shan ,

Commnnder of the Chinese troops in North Manchurin, to

Gencre.lissimo Chi ang Kai -shek· ..

Q Wher e is th~t t el egram?

A This t e l egram w~s circul ated to all of the

newspaper s in Shanghai , and i t uas circulated fr om the

Russian town of Blagovestchonsk.

Q No, my question

A How i s that?

Q My question was , whor e i s thn.t t el egram you

r eceived?

A ··r 11 .. c ' you could find t hat tclegr~m if you

coul d find our other paper s which wer e looted from our

office on the morning of Pearl Har bor , in Shanghai .

Q '1111 you stnte t he contents of tha t t clogr am,

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·--------------·-----------------A This t e l egram asserted -- described Ha ' s

-activities in accepting, prc::;t1mably accepting , th~ job

as Minister of For0i gn Aff~irs of the puppet government,

thnt he hnd r eceived n large sum of money , sta t ed that

as a million dollnr s in gold bar s , but thnt he had t cken

advantage of this del ay and these discuss ions with Gen­

eral DOHIHARA to move his troops up t o the border town

s of Aigan , and had succeeded in gett ing them <!Cr oss the

9 river into Rus s i an territory, froin which point they wer e

10 sent west and returned to Chincs0 t erritory.

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A The money came from Jap3ncse militar y sources .

A Did he use cny name?

A I don ' t r emember any par ticular name, except

that he had been in negotiat i ons continuously ~ith Gen­

eral DOHIHARA Vlho Pirranged th0 6etuils .

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China?

Vias anything said about his r e l 'l tj.ons \'Ii th

A You mean at this particular time?

Q In the t e l egr am.

A Ma, of course , assorted he was a loyal Chinose

citizen. And, as a matter of f act , he is still with

the National Gover nment , for a l ong time w~ s stationed

at the important city of Pao Tou v1hich is t o the

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3 THE PRESIDENT: This is a convenient break.

4 ·ae will recess now until ha lf past nine tomo1~roVT

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