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The Minutes of the Diocesan Advisory Committee, Meeting no. 299, held from 2:00pmon Tuesday, 1 July 2014, at the Church of England - Birmingham, 8th Floor, 1 ColmoreRow, BIRMINGHAM B3 2BJ.

Adrian Mann, DAC Secretary(0121-426 0405; [email protected])

DAC300.2

Diocesan Advisory Committeefor the Care of Churches

299.1 PROGRAMME OF BUSINESS ... was agreed, with these alterations:

Mr Graeme Beamish (Architect)Mr Brough Skingley (Mechanical and Electrical Engineer)

Members and Advisers PRESENT (17)

Members' APOLOGIES (or absence)

Mr Adrian Mann (Secretary to the DAC)

IN ATTENDANCE

299.3 INFORMATION casework itemsPaper DAC299.3 (blue) had been circulated: minutes herewith.

299.4 ADVICE casework itemsPaper DAC299.4 (green) had been circulated: minutes herewith.

299.5 PETITION casework itemsPaper DAC299.5 (pink) had been circulated: minutes herewith.

299.4.14 [R3010] Aston and Nechells, St Peter and St Paul299.4.15 [R2985] Wylde Green, Emmanuel299.5.16 [P3011] Castle Bromwich, St Clement

299.2 MINUTES ... of the Meeting held 20 May 2014 were agreed as a correct record andsigned by the Chair of that Meeting, without amendment.

Dr Jim Berrow (Chair, appointed by Bishop David)The Ven. Hayward Osborne (ex-officio, Archdeacon of Birmingham)

Ms Sarah Baldwin (Architect)Mr Ross Brazier (English Heritage nominee)

Mr Tim Bridges (National Amenity Societies' nominee)Mr Derek Clarke (Architect)

The Revd Oliver Coss (Diocesan Synod nominee)Ms Helen Ellison (Local Government Association nominee)

Mr Christopher Hargreaves (Planner)Dr Mike Hodder (Archaeologist)

Mr Robin Hurley (Architect)Mrs Merryn Lloyd (Craft Designer)

Mr Eamon Mooney (Health, Safety and Disabilities Consultant)Mr Stephen Oliver (Architect)

Mr Harry Rawlings (Electrical Engineer); Mr Charles Shapcott (Structural Engineer)

Birmingham DAC299 Minutes continued/…

a) Regional benchmarking: Dr Berrow reported that how applications for Faculty weremade by parishes and considered by the DAC was a very important issue. He felt,however, that it would have been more productive, efficient and expedient for the queriesto have been raised with the DAC directly through the Chair, Secretary or Archdeacon,rather than by a circuitous route via the forum of the Bishop's Council. Dr Berrow notedthat it was important that the Chancellor was involved in such discussions and that hehad written to him on the subject.

Mr Mann reported that a statistical analysis of DAC casework had been conducted for theDioceses of Birmingham and Coventry on the question, "How many applications for a DACCertificate arose for the first time at each DAC meeting during 2013 and, at the meetingat which they first arose, how many applications had Certificates issued and how manyhad resolution deferred?" He explained that, in the Diocese of Birmingham, 74% ofapplications for Faculty were resolved at the first meeting at which they arose; in theDiocese of Coventry, 77%. Mr Mann observed that the next logical step would be toreview the 23 applications made to Birmingham DAC in 2013 that did not achieveresolution at the first meeting at which they arose, assess the reasons for why this wasthe case and identify any patterns. He commented that, following this exercise, it wouldbe possible to identify clear areas for action and development.

Dr Hodder explained that, for the Church of England to retain its exemption from thesecular control of Listed Building Consent (LBC) and maintain discretion over thedevelopment of its churches, it must be seen to administer the Faculty system responsiblyand with a rigor equivalent to the requirements of LBC. He commented that,fundamentally, the amount and level of detail submitted by parishes in support of anapplication for Faculty must be to the same degree as an application for LBC. He felt that,on the figures provided, applicants for LBC had a lower rate of success than thoseapplying for Faculty. Dr Hodder observed that, in most cases, parishes should contact theDAC for advice on the kind of information required before making an application forFaculty and he noted that the voluntary DAC caseworkers were available to give suchconsultant-level advice without cost.

Mr Clarke reported that, in many cases, LBC submissions were made by a professionalconsultant on the behalf of an applicant. He noted that this was often not a feasibleoption for parishes and that, in many cases, it was very difficult for churches to gaugewhether their applications were supported by the correct information because there wasnot sufficient experience within the congregation to make such an assessment.

Fr Oliver reported that, in his experience, there was a very low level of literacy in parisheswhen it came to planning the management and development of church buildings and ofengagement with the Faculty system. He felt that it would be of great benefit to havemore training available to incumbents, curates and churchwardens to help inform themabout, and prepare them for, their responsibilities regarding church building fabric. FrOliver observed that many parishes would also derive great benefit from closerprofessional support in the creation of building development and management schemesand in the making of Faculty and grant-funding applications.

Dr Berrow noted that, since becoming Chair, he had frequently offered presentations toany parish or Diocesan body who might benefit from it. Only Kings Norton Deanery hadtaken up that offer and the outcome had been locally productive.

Mr Bridges reported that all of the neighbouring Dioceses to Birmingham had employedSupport Officers for Places of Worship, funded partially or fully by English Heritage. Heobserved that this scheme was still available and that, in the Diocese of Hereford, EnglishHeritage had been able to fully fund the role of part-time Support Officer for over 3 years.

299.6 NON-CASEWORK BUSINESS

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Dr Berrow hoped that, ultimately, it would be possible for more research to be carried outover the summer and for further data to be presented to the next DAC meeting, inSeptember. He anticipated that, following the analysis of the findings, the DAC would beable to make recommendations on how the success rate of applications for Faculty couldbe improved to the Bishop's Council. Dr Berrow suggested that any members of theBishop's Council who wished to be involved in this process be in touch with him and henoted that members were always welcome to attend DAC meetings.

The Committee NOTED the position.

b) Chair of the Church Buildings Council (CBC): The DAC noted that the current CBC Chairwould step down during September and that the role had been advertised.


c) Church treasures: The DAC noted the Court of Arches' recent judgement on thepresumption against the disposal of church treasures.


d) The value of parish churches: The DAC noted the House of Lord's debate on theimportance of parish churches.


e) The National Heritage Protection Plan (NHPP): The DAC noted the further developmentof English Heritage's NHPP, following the wide-ranging consultation process.


DAC299.7 MEETING DATES 2014

1. Tuesday 2nd September at 2:00pm2. Tuesday 14th October at 2:00pm3. Tuesday 9th December at 10:30am

DAC299.8 MEETING DATES 2015

1. Tuesday 27th January at 2:00pm2. Tuesday 17th March at 2:00pm3. Tuesday 12th May at 2:00pm4. Tuesday 30th June at 2:00pm5. Tuesday 1st September at 2:00pm6. Tuesday 13th October at 2:00pm7. Tuesday 8th December at 10:30am



There being no further business, the Chair closed the meeting at : 4:30 pm


Built=1200 implies mediæval origins; SoS is Statemt. of Signif.; ...involvt quantifies inspector’s role; QIR is latest Quinq. Insp. Rpt.; List includesConserv. Area status (Sites & Mon. ref. below); Mtgs. shows times case has arisen; Amen. indicates likely interest of Nat. Amenity Socs.

Birmingham DAC MINUTES Info/Ratif. items

The DAC noted that the case had been reviewed by the Registrar for the attention of the Chancellor, and thathis opinion was expected in due course.

The Committee NOTED the current position.

299.3.1 KNOWLE, St John Baptist and SS Lawrence & Anne

1403

Built/modifiedResolveStat.

UNKNOWN

Original architect Inspector & involvmentArchdeaconryLocal Authority

1/CA

List/CASMR

To replace stolen gutters and downpipes

370

Seats

Apr-14

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Recommend Solihull276418240/276734

ASEvansM EngdYes

SoS

6

Aston

GridRef:

B93 0LN

P2797

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Birmingham DAC MINUTES Advice items

Mr Hurley reported that he was satisfied with the parish's proposals to install a new memorial bench in thechurchyard. He suggested that the bench might fit more aesthetically in context with the wall if it wasorientated to face eastwards and he recommended that it was attached to the ground by some means, forthe purpose of security.

The Committee ENDORSED paper DAC299.4.1 and DISCHARGED its proviso to the recommendation of thepetition.

299.4.1 FOUR OAKS, All Saints

1908


ReynoldsEF


2*/CA

List/CASMR

To install a memorial bench in the churchyard

300

Seats

Aug-09

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Recommend Birm. City1054410916/298740

VTaylorP None

SoS

2

Aston

GridRef:

B74 2XU

P2996

Mr Skingley reported, in writing, that he had been invited to visit the parish to discuss options for the repairand management of the church heating system and that he had produced a report.

The Committee ENDORSED paper DAC299.4.2 and NOTED the current position.

299.4.2 SUTTON COLDFIELD, St Chad

1926


BatemanCE


2

List/CASMR

To replace the church boiler

207

Seats

Jul-06

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Warwickshire413379/296190

TBateD None

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B75 7SF

R3007

Dr Berrow reported that a DAC sub-group had been invited to visit the church on 9-Jul to discuss theimprovement of the building's facilities.


299.4.3 SPARKHILL, St John the Evangelist

1888


Martin/Chamberlain


2

List/CASMR

To develop the church facilities

350

Seats

Sep-12

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Birm. City3713409223/284050

VJoyceN Engd

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B11 4RU

R3005

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Dr Berrow reported that he had visited the church with Mr Beamish to discuss the parish's thoughts onopening up space in the chancel area and improving the configuration of facilities at the west end, as theparish were under pressure to accommodate an expanding population. He explained that the chancel areawas separated from the nave by a 'wall' of stacked chairs and had become an informal storage room duringthe week. Dr Berrow observed that, unusually, the chancel contained one wooden platform set on the floorand then a second platform set on top of the first, creating a series of steps and level changes throughout thespace that, just before the sanctuary, went down rather than up.

Mr Beamish reported, on site, that the church's parquet floor extended some way under the first platform, butdid not cover the whole area, so there was void beneath floor level. He commented that a contractor shouldbe able to provide a quote to the parish for the removal of both platforms and their attached woodwork andfor laying a parquet floor over the underlying void fairly readily, but he noted that this was likely to beexpensive. Dr Berrow observed that the screens to the south aisle could be moved to the north side of thechancel to create a corridor that would allow people to access the nave from the east end of the churchwithout having to cut through the chancel. He noted that the stalls in the chancel were of good quality andhoped that they might be retained.

Dr Berrow commented that the relatively modern pulpit was used very infrequently and did not seem to bringa great deal of benefit to the chancel space. He observed that its removal could provide more space for theparish's worship needs. Dr Berrow suggested that Mr Bridges visit the church to view the pulpit and advise asto whether its removal would be considered controversial.

Dr Berrow reported that, were the chancel to be cleared, the furniture and items stored there would have tobe rehoused elsewhere. He explained that the church kitchen was installed in the north aisle west porch, witha nearby servery, but was also a main access route from the nave to the enclosed north garden and was usedfrequently by children. Dr Berrow noted that, in the interests of safety, the parish wished to move thekitchen. Mr Beamish reported, on site, that it might be possible to reconfigure the bay at the west end sothat, with a more efficient use of the space, it could contain a kitchen, improved toilet facilities and storagespace. He suggested that the parish approach an architect to carry out a feasibility study and suggest someoptions.

The Committee ENDORSED Dr Berrow's and Mr Beamish's advice and NOTED the current position.

299.4.4 SPRINGFIELD, St Christopher

1907


HarrisonA


List/CASMR

To reorder the church interior

200

Seats

Dec-11

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Birm. City409628/282843

VPotterM NoneYes

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B13 9NY

R3003

Mr Clarke reported that he had spoken to the priest-in-charge regarding the proposed internal redecoration ofthe building on 29-May and Dr Berrow reported that he had visited the church on 3-Jun. Mr Clarke explainedthat confirmation that the primer and paint would be fully breathable and details on the specification for theplaster repair were awaited.


299.4.5 BADDESLEY ENSOR, St Nicholas

1846


CluttonH


2

List/CASMR

To redecorate the church interior

220

Seats

May-13

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Unoppose Warwickshire126427239/298226

VBrownhillP Engd

SoS

2

Aston

GridRef:

CV9 2BY

P2989

Mr Rawlings reported that he was satisfied with the electrical safety provisions for the rewiring and relightingof the church.

The Committee DISCHARGED its proviso to the recommendation of the petition.

299.4.6 KINGSBURY, SS Peter & Paul

1200


UNKNOWN


2*/CA

List/CASMR

To relight and rewire the church

220

Seats

Apr-13

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Recommend Warwickshire421478/296269

ASThomasC Engd

SoS

2

Aston

GridRef:

B78 2LR

P2988



Dr Hodder reported that he had spoken to the parish about the archaeological implications regarding theinstallation of a new drain pipe in the churchyard. He observed that the route of the new drain from theproposed inspection cover to the ditch alongside the churchyard ran along an existing path and betweengraves, so should not have an archaeological impact. Dr Hodder advised that the stretch of proposed newdrain from the south-east corner of the church to the inspection cover might expose archaeological remainsand recommended that archaeological observation was required in this area.

The Committee ENDORSED Dr Hodder's advice and NOTED the current position.

299.4.7 BARSTON, St Swithin

1721/1899


UNKNOWN


2*/CA

List/CASMR

To install a new drain pipe in the churchyard

120

Seats

Oct-11

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Solihull73420742/278011

VGPotterM Advsg

SoS

3

Aston

GridRef:

B92 0JU

R2932

Fr Oliver reported that he had visited the church with Dr Berrow and Mr Brazier to discuss the removal ofpews at the west end of the nave, to create a more flexible community space, and that a report had beenproduced. He hoped that the parish would consider whether a relocation of the west-end font, along theeast-west axis of the church and closer to a line with the main entrance, would bring a further benefit to theuse of the church. Dr Berrow noted that any new carpet should be fully breathable and that the parish shouldbe aware of what was underneath the floor at the west end of the nave, in case this raised any issues. Hewondered whether new carpet was needed for the whole of the west end or whether there were otheroptions for floor surfaces to mark the different nave spaces, such as woodblocks.


299.4.8 HAMPTON-IN-ARDEN, SS Mary & Bartholomew

1130


UNKNOWN


1/CA

List/CASMR

To remove the pews from the rear of the nave

180

Seats

Apr-13

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Solihull171420279/280770

ASPotterM None

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B92 0AE

R2997

Dr Berrow reported that a DAC sub-group had been invited to visit the church on 8-Jul to discuss thedevelopment of the church welcome area.


299.4.9 SOLIHULL, St Alphege

1120


UNKNOWN


1/CA

List/CASMR

To develop the church welcome area

400

Seats

Jun-10

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Solihull306415335/279288

ASMatthewsS None

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B91 3RQ

R3004

Mr Clarke reported that details on the final location for the CCTV signage were awaited.


299.4.10 LADYWOOD, St John the Evangelist & St Peter

1854/1888


TeulonSS/ChatwinJA


2

List/CASMR

To repair, improve and extend the church car park

600

Seats

Nov-09

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.


VPotterM EngdYes

SoS

2

Birmingham

GridRef:

B16 8TF

P2987

Mr Hurley reported that he had visited the church to discuss large-scale repairs to the north elevation of thechurch roof and that he had produced a report. He explained that the roof was subject to high wind pressureand advised that Dreadnought red brindle plain clay roof tiles would be more resistant to weathering andstaining that a concrete product.


299.4.11 LICKEY, Holy Trinity

1856


DayH


List/CASMR

To repair the church roof

140

Seats

May-12

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

BromsgroveWSM01879399446/275229

VEvansM None

SoS

1

Birmingham

GridRef:

B45 8RR

R2998



Mr Hurley reported that the establishment on site of sample panels for the materials to be used in the phase1 major reordering works were awaited. He noted that the parish should provide full details of any changesmade to the plans following the Chancellor's grant of Faculty on 16-Jul-13.


299.4.12 SELLY PARK, St Stephen

1871


Martin/Chamberlain


2/CA

List/CASMR

To carry out a major reordering (phase 1)

250

Seats

Jun-10

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.


VBellJ Engd

SoS

21

Birmingham

GridRef:

B29 7HU

P1979

Mr Hurley reported that, following a series of unauthorised, amateur works to the churchyard war memorialby a local resident, the cost of professional restoration was likely to be high. Mr Shapcott noted that guidanceon the conservation, repair and management of war memorials had been published by English Heritage andthe War Memorials Trust at www.english-heritage.org.uk/warmemorials and he hoped that this might beuseful to the parish.


299.4.13 SHIRLEY, St James the Great

1831/1882


UNKNOWN


2

List/CASMR

To restore churchyard war memorial

300

Seats

Jul-10

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Solihull300411955/278818

VGDyhouseG None

SoS

2

Birmingham

GridRef:

B90 2AX

R2772

Archdeacon Osborne reported that the parish had sought permission for interior masonry repairs to thechurch's main east window as a minor matter. Mr Brazier queried how the repairs were to be carried outwithout removing the glass and leading and Mrs Lloyd wished to know how the glazing would be protectedduring the works. Mr Bridges observed that the window and its glazing were extremely important and wasconcerned that the commencement of minor repairs could lead to the discovery of further issues that wouldrequire immediate attention, as had recently been the case at St Mary the Virgin, Newton Regis. Herecommended strongly that the parish created a general conservation plan for the rectification of variousissues around the building, with the appropriate specifications. Mr Bridges felt that, if the parish had fullerdetails to hand for known required repairs, it would be in a much better position to gain approval morequickly and so take advantage of favourable funding opportunities.

Archdeacon Osborne suggested that he visit the church with Mr Bridges and a DAC architect to discuss theproposed repairs to the window on site.


299.4.14 ASTON AND NECHELLS, SS Peter & Paul

1140/1879


ChatwinJA


2*/CA

List/CASMR

To repair the east window stonework

600

Seats

Apr-09

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Birm. City1363408260/289911

VASBrownhillP NoneYes

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B6 6QB

R3010

Mr Clarke and Mr Hargreaves reported that they were content to see a resurfacing of part of the churchyardwith concrete block-paving. Mr Hargreaves recommended that the parish acquire some samples in a range ofappropriate colours so that the final paver could be agreed on site.

The Committee ENDORSED Mr Clarke's and Mr Hargreaves' advice and NOTED the current position.

299.4.15 WYLDE GREEN, Emmanuel

1909/1967


BidlakeWH


2*

List/CASMR

To pave an area of the church site

320

Seats

Jul-11

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Birm. City1057411824/293359

TVFisherK Engd

SoS

3

Aston

GridRef:

B72 1DP

R2985



Birmingham DAC MINUTES Petition items

Ms Baldwin and Ms Ellison reported that they were satisfied with the parish's proposals to set up new signand notice boards in the churchyard. Ms Ellison observed that, if possible, the board should give contactdetails for a parish office (rather than for the vicarage) and that the parish should approach the local planningauthority for any required advertisement consent for the boards, if they had not done so already.

The Committee RECOMMENDED the petition, without proviso.

299.5.1 ACOCKS GREEN, St Mary

1864/1894


Bland/ChatwinJA


2

List/CASMR

To install new church notice boards

280

Seats

Oct-12

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.


VPotterM None

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B27 6QX

P3009

Archdeacon Osborne reported that the current church altar was very large for the sanctuary space andobserved that, as the current reordering project would result in a great change to the building's interior, itwas not unreasonable for the parish to dispose of the old furnishing and introduce new. However, he wasunclear as to the parish's full scheme for the layout of the new worship space and did not know how theproposed new altar, lectern and votive stand would appear in context with the rest of the furnishings.Archdeacon Osborne wondered whether there was any scope for commissioning new liturgical furniture,rather than purchasing it from a catalogue. Fr Oliver observed that a small, portable altar could be used,rather than a fold-away table. Archdeacon Osborne suggested that he visit the church with Ms Baldwin toview the new worship space and the old church furnishings, and discuss the introduction of the new liturgicalfurniture.

Mr Brazier noted that, once the redevelopment works were completed, the parish should inform EnglishHeritage so that the church could be removed from the national Heritage at Risk Register.

The Committee DEFERRED resolution of the petition, pending a visit to the church by Archdeacon Osborneand Ms Baldwin to resolve the furnishing of the worship space in the reordered building.

299.5.2 WARD END, St Margaret

1517/1834


BondT


2

List/CASMR

To buy new furnishings and dispose of old items

200

Seats

Jul-11

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Birm. City1293411362/288643

GASClewsM Engd

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B8 2HA

P3001

Dr Berrow reported that the parish had received feedback from both the Church Buildings Council and theSociety for the Protection of Ancient Buildings. He hoped that the parish would now be in a position to drawup the significant technical details for the execution of the major reordering project.


299.5.3 COLESHILL, SS Peter & Paul

1200


UNKNOWN


1/CA

List/CASMR

To carry out a major reordering

350

Seats

Sep-10

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.


ASPotterM Engd

SoS

14

Aston

GridRef:

B46 3AD

P2451

Dr Berrow reported that he would visit the parish on 21-Jul with Archdeacon Osborne and Dr Hodder and thata DAC sub-group had been invited to a meeting at the church on 14-Aug, to discuss the latest proposals forthe introduction of new toilet facilities and further improvements to the church space.


299.5.4 GRENDON, All Saints

1200/1845


HusseyRC


2*

List/CASMR

To add toilets, a servery and a community space

120

Seats

Aug-09

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.


VASBrownhillP Engd

SoS

12

Aston

GridRef:

CV9 3DP

P2677

Mr Clarke, Mr Mooney and Mr Shapcott reported that they were satisfied with the parish's proposals toimprove safety for access to the church tower and roof.


299.5.5 SECKINGTON, All Saints

1200


UNKNOWN


2*

List/CASMR

To provide safe access to the spire and parapet

150

Seats

Feb-11

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.


ASThomasC Engd

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B79 0LD

P3002

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Mrs Lloyd reported that the church has numerous items of silver in storage and explained that the parishwished to dispose of these articles because they had been neither used nor displayed for many years. Sheobserved that the parish had compiled a good catalogue for the silverware, so it was well documented andrecorded. Archdeacon Osborne commented that, provided that none of the items were of significant historicvalue to the church, there was a reasonable argument for their disposal.

Mr Brazier noted that the current guidance, and a recent judgement from the Court of Arches(www.churchcare.co.uk/about-us/campaigns/news/781-church-treasures-really-do-belong), created a strongpresumption against the sale of historic objects from churches. He advised that, in order to justify anydisposal, an independent historic appraisal report should be commissioned by the parish to explain theprovenance and history of the items of silver, and the significance of their historic and memorial associationwith the church. Mr Bridges suggested that Mr Richard Peplow, an adviser to Worcester DAC, may be willingto carry out such a report and explained that Mr Peplow could be contacted through the Worcester DACSecretary, Mr John Dentith (01905 732 809, [email protected]).

The Committee DEFERRED resolution of the petition, pending the findings of an independent historicappraisal report on the church silverware.

299.5.6 SOLIHULL, St Alphege

1120


UNKNOWN


1/CA

List/CASMR

To dispose of surplus church silver

400

Seats

Jun-10

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Solihull306415335/279288

ASMatthewsS None

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B91 3RQ

P3006

Dr Berrow reported that he had visited the parish and produced a report on the new chamber organ, whichhad been unpacked and assembled. He noted that, to complete the application for Faculty permission, theparish would need to draw up plans for an appropriate platform for the instrument. Dr Berrow cautioned that,despite any investment made by the parish for the installation, insurance and repair of the organ, it wouldremain the property of the donor and her heirs at law, who would be able to redeem possession of theinstrument at any time.


299.5.7 HIGHGATE, St Alban the Martyr

1881


PearsonJL


2*

List/CASMR

To install a chamber organ

260

Seats

Apr-08

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Birm. City407665/285337

VLathamD None

SoS

7

Birmingham

GridRef:

B12 0YF

P2901

Mr Clarke reported that he was satisfied with the parish's proposals to install two new benches in thechurchyard and repair the church notice board.


299.5.8 EDGBASTON, St George w. St Michael

1836/1885


Scoles/ChatwinJA


2/CA

List/CASMR

To improve the church grounds

800

Seats

Feb-09

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.


VGThomasC None

SoS

2

Birmingham

GridRef:

B15 2DQ

P2993



Mr Bridges reported that the parish's Statement of Need for changes to the chancel area was well-developedand clear. He felt that the proposed dismantling of the pulpit was a contentious issue and that the TwentiethCentury Society should be consulted. Mr Bridges hoped that the pulpit might stay in its current position, buthe acknowledged that it had been altered in the past and that there was precedent for it to be removed,provided that it was correctly recorded, stored and labelled.

Mr Bridges felt that it would be preferable to not install new carpet in the chancel and to leave the tilesexposed, but he noted the parish's thorough justification for the placement of the carpet in its Statement ofNeed. Mr Hurley observed that the building was unlikely to possess a damp-proof course and that there didappear to be some moisture damage to the tiles. Mr Clarke commented that, as such, the carpet, backing andfixing method to the floor must be absolutely breathable. He noted that the carpet samples provided weremounted on a non-breathable backing and that the tackifier noted in the specification was also impermeable.Mr Clarke recommended that, in order to limit moisture damage to the tile floor, any carpet must have a fullybreathable backing and must not be attached to the floor with an adhesive.

Mr Bridges suggested that he visit the church with Mr Brazier and Mr Oliver, to discuss the technical details ofthe chancel reordering.

The Committee DEFERRED resolution of the petition, pending a visit to the church by a DAC sub-group toresolve the technical and building fabric issues relating to the proposed reordering of the chancel area.

299.5.9 EDGBASTON, St Germain

1915/1917


ReynoldsEF


2

List/CASMR

To reorder the chancel

670

Seats

Dec-09

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Birm. City403200/286684

TPotterM None

SoS

3

Birmingham

GridRef:

B16 0NB

P2948

Dr Berrow reported that phase 1 of the major reordering works had been timetabled to start on 30-Jun. Heexplained that the parish intended to seek Faculty approval for the phase 2 works while these wereunderway. Dr Berrow recommended that, before the parish submitted an application, a DAC sub-group wasinvited to the church to discuss the phase 2 proposals.


299.5.10 SELLY PARK, St Stephen

1871


Martin/Chamberlain


2/CA

List/CASMR

To carry out a major reordering (phase 2)

250

Seats

Jun-10

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Birm. City405321/282834

VBellJ Engd

SoS

4

Birmingham

GridRef:

B29 7HU

P2827

Mr Mooney reported that a handrail, leading up two shallow steps, was a very simple addition to allow easieraccess to the church's north-west porch. Mrs Lloyd was concerned that the installation of a single rail to thesouth side of the door would not help a person with a disabled right arm in ascending the steps or a personwith a disabled left arm in descending them. Mr Hurley observed that, as the north-west door was thechurch's principal entrance, it would be preferable to maintain symmetry. He noted that an indicative drawingof the proposed handrail had been produced, but details were needed regarding the rail's finish, colour andfixing method. Mr Hurley suggested that he visit the church, to help move the proposals forward.

The Committee DEFERRED resolution of the petition, pending a visit to the church by Mr Hurley to resolvetechnical details for the installation of the handrail.

299.5.11 EDGBASTON, SS Mary & Ambrose

1898


ChatwinJA


2

List/CASMR

To install a handrail at the main entrance

400

Seats

Apr-95

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Birm. City3668406629/284502

VDyhouseG Engd

SoS

1

Birmingham

GridRef:

B5 7RA

P3008



Mr Hurley and Mr Oliver reported that they had visited the parish to view and discuss updated plans for theproposed new church community centre. Mr Hurley felt that the drawings showed a much improved designand hoped that the parish might now be able to finalise their proposals. Mr Oliver advised that the mostefficient way forward would be for the parish to draw up all the detail that would be required for anapplication to the local authority and submit this information for both Faculty approval and planningpermission, at the same time.

Dr Berrow commented that it was unusual for the DAC to be involved in the construction of a completely newbuilding. He hoped that, as a guide, only the detail needed to achieve planning permission would benecessary for an application for Faculty permission. Dr Berrow observed, however, that the DAC would needfull information on the creation of the worship space. He noted that it might be easiest for the layout of thisarea to be established initially, with the furnishings specified by a second application for Faculty at a laterdate.


299.5.12 DORRIDGE, St Philip

1878/1897


Payne/ChatwinJA


List/CASMR

To demolish and redevelop the church building

250

Seats

Nov-08

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Solihull416762/274982

VChristophersJ Engd

SoS

10

Birmingham

GridRef:

B93 8DX

P1931

Mrs Lloyd reported that a full technical design for the proposed glazing for the new Lady Chapel windowopening was awaited.


299.5.13 LAPWORTH, St Mary the Virgin

1200


UNKNOWN


1/CA

List/CASMR

To install glazing into the new church window

160

Seats

Mar-11

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.


ASThomasC None

SoS

2

Birmingham

GridRef:

B94 5NX

P2992

Mr Skingley reported, in writing, that he was satisfied with the parish's proposals to change the church boiler.He suggested that a less expensive option might be replace the oil burner on the cast-iron sectional boilerwith a gas burner. Mr Skingley observed that, despite flushing, Victorian and Edwardian heating systems wereprone to contain debris that could block a plate heat exchanger. He commented that, at the temperaturesthat the church pipes and radiators required, a condensing boiler would only be as efficient as a pressure-jetboiler, and that the Building Regulations did not require a condensing boiler to be installed in a church.


299.5.14 TANWORTH-IN-ARDEN, St Mary [Magdalene]

1330/1880


UNKNOWN


1/CA

List/CASMR

To remove and replace the church boiler

230

Seats

Apr-12

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Recommend Stratford992411346/270510

VASListerP None

SoS

1

Birmingham

GridRef:

B94 5AL

P2999

Mr Hurley reported that he was satisfied with the parish's proposals to install a new memorial bench in thechurchyard.


299.5.15 TANWORTH-IN-ARDEN, St Mary [Magdalene]

1330/1880


UNKNOWN


1/CA

List/CASMR

To install a memorial bench in the churchyard

230

Seats

Apr-12

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.

Recommend Stratford992411346/270510

VASListerP None

SoS

1

Birmingham

GridRef:

B94 5AL

P3000

Mr Rawlings reported that he was satisfied with the parish's proposals to repair and upgrade the church'selectrical system.


299.5.16 CASTLE BROMWICH, St Clement [of Alexandria]

1968


UNKNOWN


List/CASMR

To update the church electrical system

200

Seats

Jul-12

QIR

Amen.Mtgs.


THarrisonL None

SoS

1

Aston

GridRef:

B36 0BY

P3011


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