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Paul Stepns - Jne 22, 2010Pal Stepnes, et a. v Peter Ritschel, et a

IN THE UNTED STATES ISTRC CORTDISTRICT OF MNNESOTA

Case No. 0:08-cv5296 ADM/JJK

Paul C. Stepnes, Pete Girard,Jan Girard, David B. olland,Terry Yzaguirre, Ray Neset,Bennett Ross Taylor, r., andudith Wallen Taylor,

Plaintiffs,

v.

Peter Ritschel (individual capacity),ane Moore (individual capacity),City of Minneapolis, CBS Broadcastin,Inc, foreign corporation, andEsm Murphy (individua),

Defendants

COPY

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VDEOTAPED DEPOSTON O

PAUL C. STEPNES

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DATE TAKEN: 0/22/10 B: CN M. TRATE

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A. Not that I can rcall.2 Q Mr. Sepnes re you mrred?3 A. No4 Q. ve you eve een mrre? A. No.6

Q o you hve ny chldren?

7 A. No Q Mr. Sepnes wh s your mohe's nme ?

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9 A y moth i dad. And my moth' nam wa0 Elizabth Q All rh. And when d she pss on2 A .3 Q ow ou your her s you er s4 lve? A y fath did in .6 Q An wh ws hs rs nme?7 A Sma n. And today i thi d wdding8920

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Q Oh . Do you hve ny rohers o ssers?A I do2 Q rohers?22 A I ha fou both23 Q. Al rh And how mny ssers?4 A I had ou it. n pad.2 Q. And when d she pss on?

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8 A o I ha not dicud th ca wth thm.9 Q y. Mr. Sepnes how ou wh Sephen0 n ohn hve you dscussed he chllene epor wh hem?2 A. I ha not dicd th ca with thm3 Q. y ow reern o your sses he4 hree h e presenly lvn wh re her nes?6 A. ay, Ann and athin.7 Q. And where do hey resde?8

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A. Se sad that she had receved some pone5 cas fom some of her frends that had seen6 the epot on TV and they were qte7 dstessed becase they sad they thog ht I8 was gong to pson based pon what they had heard.0 Q So Caterne wo' ort Carolna ot call frm frend tat reded n te wn2 Cte area?3 A Coec Q Okay take t tee weren't fok n or5 Carolna tat ear of t?6 A Correct7 Q Okay A l rt d e te you te name

8f any of t peope tt a calle er?

A. Se dd not.20 Q d e ay aytn ele aot te2 caleed report?22 A at was a we reay dscssed abot t.23 Q All rt at d o ay f anytn n2 repoe?25 I was taen and aghast by t.

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2 A. eah3 Q All rt d you ay anyt to er repone?

5 A I sad Obvosy they were wrong n ther6 repotng7 Q Aytn ele?8 A. Thats a I can reca. Q Al rt Mr Stepe are tere ay oter0 famly memer -- or are tere ay famly memer tat you're partclary cloe to2 A. I ave a nece that I see fom tme to tme.3 Q Ad wat er name? A Megan.5

Q A doe e rede te w Cte area?

6 A. She does7 Q ow ol e?8 A. I beeve shes . Q All rt A er lat ame Stepne20 A. I don t reca.2 Q e et me ak you t at er at22 name23 A. We, he maden name was Stepnes Shes2 gotten dvorced and Im not sre what ast25 name shes sng rght now

Q All rt d you ever talk to er aot2 te calee report?3 A. I just tod her that I had a case wth the cty and CBS. I havent gotten nto5 specfcs wth t.6

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7 A. Coud yo be more specfc? I have a ot of8 frends. Q Al rt Let me ee f t elp you e0 poed I tnk t wa or trd et of terroatore a eton to you akn yo2 to dentfy your coet frend pon tat3 occaon you entfed your fve cloet fred and tat wat we aked yo jt5 o y know a Mcee rmm one6 rcko ake orr ew Stanfeld ad7 Jl ate8 A. Oy Q Al t Stt n ere today wo l you 20 ae tere addtoa folk tat yo would dd2 to te lt of your coet fred eyon22 toe fve?23 A. As I st ere today, I cant eca who I2 wod add. Im se thee mght be bt I25 cant reca

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6 A Ie taed to them abot the case, that I,7 yo ow had ths case agast the cty and8 aga st CBS Specfcay I dont eca what Ive taed to them abot Dae was20 wog at the hose at the tme so he has2 probaby a tte more nowedge abot ths22 case Bt I havent eay spent a ot of23 tme th ae n the astnmber of months2 Les wos not n the wn Ctes25 so I ont see hm vey often. I haventMLScrp Bencma Repong Agency (6 Page 22 Page


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Q Al l rh. And when dd you due2 A A e, Cheste ose Homes was th name of a2 prodct that had gven t; bt was Q Now he you ken ny collee couses4 A ave, or coege-eve types of coses5 Q. hch couses dd you ke6

A dd some stdyng wth va os ke the7 nsr ance nsttte of Amerca know 'v e8 done some othe jst can't eca as 9 st here today

1 Q. A l h. e you ken ny collee1 courses coee cmpus2 A Not at a camps no1 Q. Aywhee else oe n he ones you old us14 ou lke he Insunce nsue5 A As st here today don't reca6 Q. r. Sepnes dd you see n he mry1 7 A No had a hgh daft nmbe18 Q. h d lke o do no w s shf ou r focus

9 nd k ou your eploymen hsoy2 Coud you plese denfy for us your2 eployme posons sr wh he22 pesen d workn ckwrds2 A Most of my adt fe ve been for a good

opeatng as a soe popetoshp4 Q. ur w perod5 MS CLARK: Oec o fom.6

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7 spefc me perod8 B MR SULLVAN:9 Q Al r. e me sk you s: n es of

hese ew old omes how ny new old oes1 dd you ud12 A bt one1 Q. And ws h he I house propey4 A hat s correct5 Q Oky All r.16 E WNESS: Cn I sk cn we17 ke rek here for second I drnk 18 lo of e hs monn nd I need o do

9 soe o h2 MR SULLVAN: Sue21 E VDEO ECNCAN: e re22 on off he record : m2 (HON ef ecess ws

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4 A am5 Q Al rh. And wh s he -- s he eny6 under whh you opee doe hae nm7 A a Stepnes8 Q o you sll opere Cheser ouse omes or9 y of hose -- y oher ees

1 MS CLARK Ojecon form.1 HE WNESS: don use h12 ne nymore1 B MR SULLVAN:4 Q Oky. So opern -- you ndced you're5 curenly uyn old hoes fn e up

16 d selln he. ow lon he you een1 7 don 18 A ve been dog that for amost yeas9 Q. All rh An d re ee ny usness nmes2 h youe opeed nder whle perforn21 hose serces dur hose yes

22 A dd have a name of Chester ose Homes fo2 bdng new od homes24 Q un wh perod me dd you opere s25 Cheser ouse omes uldn new old homes

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MR. SULLVAN: Q Al r. Mr. Sepnes wh usness4 ees were you oled n Les see f5 we cn ke hs n e locks u n he6 perod he ls fe yes o 7 w usness enures were you oled n8 du rn h perod9 MS CLARK ' sory cn I e

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16 "enures" BY MR.SULLVAN:8 Q ell you old us h you were noled wh Cheser ouse omes r2 A Crrect2 Q Ay oher usness enures oher hn22 Cheser ouse oes dun fe-yer2 perod24 A Dscbe what yo mean by "ente25 Q. sness h you opeed ou lso old us

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1 ha y peae as a sle ppieship2 gh A. Core4 Q. eplaine ha y ha a bsiness whee5 y wl by hl hmes f hem p an6 sell hem; gh

7 A. Rgh Q. Okay. An ha nesan was a se ppieshp. Any e bsiness

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1 A. Cold yo be more speif wh he qeson?14 Q y cnc any bsiness acy he15 ha hse w iems ing he pei 6 17 A. a was prey mh wha I was dong Q A igh . Wha ab he pe he fe

1 yeas p ha wa bsiness aciiy20 i cnc 21 A. I did agai n I was byng od homes, fixn g22 em p and seing hem. And hen I aso2 was dong some headhnng a ha me.4 Q. An was y heahning was a a se25 ppeshp

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1 A I beleve was2 Q Al igh. y -- y hae any paes asscaes i ha pean

A. No5 Q. Wha name i y cnc bsness ne when6 y y heahnig peans7 A. I don rea. I beeve was s my name Q. S was i a Sepnes eahing

10 A Reay f yor a headner headhner s11 knd of a derogaory erm. So, no I12 wodn have named ha way. B -I1 don rea. Im sorry, I don rea.4 Q. All gh. i y hae an ffice

15 A. I worked o of my home6 Q. i y hae saey his heahning1 7 bsiness1 A No.1 Q y hae a bsiness ca20 A No2 Q An hw ab wi espec y peans22 bying l hmes fiing em p an sellng2 hw many i y se ing he pei 2 25 A I beeve I sod oe drng ha me perod.

1 Q. All igh. w ab ig he pei 2 hw may l hmes i y fi p an sell ng ha pei4 A. I sod one.5 Q. Al gh. An y he bsiness aciiy a6 y cce ing e pe fm

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10 Q. Okay. The le's me back in ime ce11 aga f he pei es 12 Wha bsiness acies y cnc ig ha pe14 A. I was doing exeve seah and also15 bying I bogh an od home and fxed i6 p and sod drng ha me perod. 7 Q. A igh ing ha ime pei i y sell ne l hme

A. Crre.20 Q. Oay. An wee y peaig as a sle2 ppieshp ig ha pe as w22 A. I eeve I was2 Q All igh. i y bsiness hae an y name2 A. Aan I do rea25 Q. All igh. w ab y eecie seach

aciiies i e pe again2 wee y peag s as a Sepnes A. I eeve I was.4 Q i y peae y hme5 A. I d6 Q. i y hae saina7 A. N. Q. Bsiness cas A N.

0 Q Oay Any he bsness aciiy ing11 ha ieyea pe he ha wha y'e12 aeay s ab A. as a I an rea a hs ime. Q. M. Sepnes y hae a esm5

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17 A I sre Ive p one ogeher a some pon1 n my ie b I haven done one fo a vey1 ong me.20 Q. Oay All igh Then fcsing e2 pei m ng ha pe22 i y als by l hmes f hem p an2 se em2 A. I d ya home xed p and I sod 25 Q Oe me

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A. Correct. Q Al rght. Mr. Stepnes ay othe busess2 Q And were yo operatng as a soe propretorshp dug tat peod? A I was.5 Q Under the name Pal Sepes?6 A. I eiee I was I eiee I was, yes

7 Q. A g An d dd you also conduct a8 eecte search bsness durng hat peod?9 A. Yes

0 Q Was hs conducted he ame of au l Stepnes?2 A. Yes. Im getting a itte fuy on the dates now Q All rgh. Dd yo ae ay partners n you r5 eecue search acttes dg tha6 peod 99 to 997 A. I know Ie had some partners at some poit8 I dont reca when, hat the years \ere.

9 Q. Partners n your home deeopment aces20 or your eecue search actes?2 A In the executie search side of the usiness22 Q. Oay A d wh o n te past d d you hae as2 panes at some pont your eecute

2 acttes that yo coducted dug at perd 99 to 99 A. do't reca Q. he dd you frst get to the busess of6 acurg old homes fng the up ad

7 selg them?8 A I had ust - it was - od homes, d9 arcitecture is something that I'e ust een

0 pasionate aout a my ife, space and how we se it, and found a way that I fet that I2 coud make a usiness ot of it. Q Ad whe d d you start n at busnes? A. y first home that I purchased and fixed up5 and sod was ack i the s I reay6 did't thi nk of it as a usiness mode at 7 that time t was successf at it And then8 the et piece of property that I purchased

9 was I eiee in the s and I was20 sucessfu at that hen I sd that and2 made money, did we And I oght another22 oe ad sod that and did we and reaied2 that I a d a usiness.

2 seach acttes? 2 Q Al rgt. You nd caed tat the fs home25 A I had a Brian Hurd I eiee his name as and 25 you bought, fed up and sold was the

aid Ehard I eiee that was his nam e.2 Q Ad wha was the name of the busness at te tme yo wored wth Bran Hud and ad

lhard?5 A. HS.6 Q. Ad what dd h stnd fo?7 A Ehard, Hurd and Stepnes8 Q All rght.9 A Not Edia High Schoo?

0 Q Pardon? A If youre oca, the other thing that its2 commony known as is Edina Hig h Schoo. Q. Oay And how long dd you opeae the busness as S?5 A I eiee the usiness is sti going I

6 eft it within I think the fist year 7 Q What year was that?8 A I dont reca9 Q Oay. Why dd you leae?20 A I was spending more of my time doing2 admi nistratie work than I was ust doing the22 exectie recruiting side of the usiness and2 I ust decided I wanted to st do what I2 ike to do and I coud do it etter on my25 own.

8s?2 A. Crrect Q. w many houses dd yo buy f up ad sel

he '8s? A. Oe.

I6 Q. Just that one?7 A Crrect.8 Q. Oay. Al rght ow, hae you old us9 about all te other homes tha you hae

0 boht fed up and sold from that pont mog forward to e preset?2 A. I eiee I hae Q. Oay As you st here today can you tell us he ttal numb er of homes hat you hae5 bogt fed up and sold?

6 A Fie7 Q Al rght Mr Stepes any busesses -8 we'e tae bac to 99 Any busness9 opertons that you conducted the 8s?20 A. Ys2 Q Oay And what were tose?22 A. I had two usiness partners and I was2 opeating out in aryand at that time I do2 not eca what we caed the compny And25 we aufactured aftermaket imaging suppies

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1 n the printer usiness, computer printer2 usiness. We did eight million in sales our

3 irst year. We doued that the second year4 And we douled that the third year. At that5 poin in time I decided to leave the company6 and go out on my own.7 Q An d when was that that yo decded to leae8 the compny?9 A. I elieve that was or I don't10 recal.

Q. All ght And who wee you two bus ness12 patnes? A Bi ll oyle and Anthony Gillosul [phon..14 Q. Could you sell those the ast naes please?15 A. I cant recall how Gillosul spelt his name16 oyle I elieve was o-ye.17 Q. A ght. And when you left the busness --18 and what was the name of the busness?19 A. I dont recall .2 Q When yo et the busness n ethe 8 o21 86 to go out on yo own, what busness dd22 you go n to at that ont?23 A. I went into the same I moved to exas to24 set up a usiness in the same industry.25 Q Oay. And dd you do ths on you own o dd

1 you hae patnes n that entue?2 A. I was goi ng to have a partner until he cheked himsel into reha and then while he

4 was in reha told me that all the money he5 was going to invest with me went up his nose.6 Q What as the name o you busness that yo7 set p n eas? A. I dont recall.9 Q A d dd you poceed then on you own?10 A. I did. I tried to get unding It was a11 time when exas was in the midst o their ig12 oil prolems and people werent lendng I13 was advised to go tal to a guy who had ust14 started a ittle usiness in his garage. e

15was selling in the gray market on the machine

16 sde o the usiness, not the supplies ut17 the machine. I didnt know that usness as18 well as I knew the supply side19 In hindsight I wish and gone to talk20 to him. hat gentleman was ichael Dell.21 Q So what dd you do?22 A Ater struggling trying to put the thing23 together, I moved ack to inneapols. y24 dad was a riend o Dick Schultz, who started25 Best Buy orporation, nd suggested that I go

1 talk to Dick aout working or him2 Q. And dd you d o so?3 A. I did.4 Q And how long dd you wo thee?5 A. st over a year. A year or two I don't6 recall.7 Q hat poston dd you wo?

A. I was a store manager y the time I let the9 company. Started out as a sales associate10 and rose up through the ranks raher quickly.11 ve got to told you I never worked so hard12 or o little money in my lie, so I moved13 on.14 Q. ay. You wee stoe manage of a est uy?15 A. orrect.16 Q. All gt. And whee was tha t stoe located?17 A It was their store that they originally18 started the company in. It was still the19 orginal small uilding out at Southdale.20 And while I woked there they actualy21 reit the uilding.22 Q. All ght So when dd yo leae est y?23 A. s sometime. I dont rcal. ate s24 Q ay. Whee d d you wo net?25 A. I know I took some time o and ust worked a

1 numer o odd os. ust I had like our or2 ive attime os One was in market

3research, which I loved and I worked with a

4 comany that I managed all their osite5 market research Id go out and y cars and6 i th salemn did a god o, Id ge him7 cash on the spot that kind o thing Id hav to do secret shopping. Id go to9 grocry stores and see i certain coupons10 worked. It was a un o.11 Ad I had aout our or ive o them12 ust to survive on and I loved it. And it13 was ust a time in my lie where I ust14 needed to take some time o In my previous

15lie and uilding that company I was used to

16 working aout or hours a week and I7 think I kind o hit the wal.18 Q w long dd you do that fo what peod o19 tme20 A. I d that until I went into the executive21 searh usiness. I got oered a o and I22 thought Ill give this a shot or a couple23 o months, see i it works. I I dont ike24 it, yu know, Ill ind something else. And25 I ound ot that I was good at it, so I

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1 sayed wih i2 Q Youe eeng to the eeutve seah3 bsness4 A. Coec5 Q. Okay. Whe dd yo stat wokng n the6 exeutve seah busness

7 A I did fo a eas yeas So, you know, ws i he ae 's, eay 's, I9 don eca. Is a kind of fuzzy o me

10 igh now.11 Q All ght. M. epnes any othe busness12 atvtes whee you wee sef-emloyed o13 you ran the businessothe tha what you've

14 already told us about?

15 A. Thas a I can hink of a his ime.16 By he way, he geneman h I

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17 hied a Bes By is now unning he company18 Q Whos that

19 A. I cn emembe his name igh s I si hee20 igh now bu oe up hough he ank21 much q ucke han he did and now hes unning22 he compny.23 Q Thees a lesson thee pehaps.24 A Hes aso pu on pound. I hink h25 pa of he esson

1 Q. hee yo go All ghty2 M. Stepnes Id lke to sht geas3 an d talk a lttle bt abot damages ow dd4 the hallenged epot ham you eptaton?5 A. I had saed he cones. I had done a6 hngs igh in i. I hd i se up o me7 o se , enies I had oca peope behind me. I had oc pess, a websie,9 nene, YouTube, med consuans, PR

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11 o ake off and make money I se a sign in12 he yad and sod ickes us by haing 13 sign in he yd befoe I hd a chance o ge14 anyhing going15 As I ook a ha mode, woud

16 jus keep dupicaing and dupicaing and17 dupicaing uni i go o a ceain poin18 ha i woud jus hum aong and chiee ha19 numbe The coss woud hae been somewhee20 beween wo and wo and a haf miion21 doas I woud hae ef a pofi of22 abo seen and a haf o eigh miion23 doas.24 On he business side I had a numbe25 of pojecs goi ng. I had condos on h and

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1 Iing, I hd a house on h and Thoms and2 I hd my own eidence. Those hemsee wod hae geneaed oe hee mon4 doas in income - o in ses. I had5 opions on ohe popeie ha I ha signed6 ee of inen on ha woud hae

7 geneaed eas anohe en miion doas n saes. I had nohe pojec o9 he boads ha I had an opion on geing

10 he popey ha woud he geneaed11 anohe six miion doas in aes.12 Ae a he coss inoed in a13 of hose hings if you add h a up, , 14 and - / iion doas, has abou15 $ miion And my pofis hae awys6 bee o bee on eey pojec a Ie17 done.

TE WTESS And Im soy to do

thso yo at ths pot but an takeanothe beak? m hav ng dy moth ad mdkng toomuh o smeth ng . And I need

22 to use the estoom.23 MR. SIVA Se.24 TE VIEO TECHICIA Wee gog25 of the eod at 09

1 (HUON a bef eess was2 take ate wh h the folowng tansped 3 TE VIEO TECHICIA We ae bak4 o the eod at 08 am.5 BY MR SIVA

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6 Q. M. Sten befoe he beak I had asked yo7 abot ham to you eputaton. Foussng on8 ham yo to you eputaton who n9 patla thoght less of yo?

10 A. I now ha i kied my busness. I was11 pained as a cimina, a fud. By he way,12 I beee he cones was business oo,13 and ha was soe popieoship as we.14 Q. All ght. Who that yo know of thought less15 of yo as a esult of the WCCO epo

16 A Thee e fiends ha I had in my ife a17 ha ime ha jus simpy aen hee18 oday. Thee ae eope ha hae emoed me19 fom hei Emai iss20 Q. D y attbte that to the WCCO epot21 A I o.22 Q. What fends that wee thee that ae o23 longe thee today that you attbute to the24 ee of the WCCO epot?25 A. Tees one peon in paicua I can

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1 A. I thought media - that my media guy that I had hired wote a etter tht indicated that.1 I dont rec. Oy14 A. But the etter from my peception fet tht tht I wa eing deceitfu, tht I hadnt16 tod them the truth when in fact I had tod7 the everythng ong efore I had hired them. A! righ Anyn ls?

9 A. And it wa the tipuation of my hiring them ai d The at PR peope I hd cut and1 n And I aid : Im ooking for omeody that not going to cut and run thi time.3 And they aured me they weent the type of4 peope that woud cut nd un.5 . l righ. id nyn ls wi yu nd

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A. Correct. hr did yu g h n iu chs?

A. I wa ent to me y a friend. All igh And wh is h frind?A Oh, oy, a I it here today I cant rememer

her name. She the ite of a friend and Ijut cant reca her name right now.

. Al igh . Ar y wr f nyhing hwld llw yu rsh yu clcins h yu culd rcl h idny f hpsn wh pridd h chs h bcm hssl r Cns ?

A Im ory, woud you reak that qeton?R. SIVAN uld yu d i

bc ps.(RUPON h usin ppringn g 80 Lns hrugh 6 ws rd cby cr rprr.)

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y h hy hugh yu wr cn 1 . Al righ h did yu ill h chs wih ris frd?3 A. Im ure there a. I ut dont reca at

4 thi tme. Oy. id nyn wri y nd ll y h6 hy hgh yu w nggd in criinl7 ciiy? A. I ut dont reca at thi time.9 S. CARK hnr is gd

im r yu wuldn mind lil b.1 R. SIVAN Su cn br nw3 H VIO TCHNICIAN r14 gng h rcrd 3 (EEON if css ws

16 n whch h fllwng rnspird)7 (EON, wc fndns xhbi Nur ws mrd f 9 idniicin by h cur rprr.) TH VIO CHNICIAN: r bc n h crd hi s is h cninuin g dpd dpsiin l C Spns3 n n un nd 00. Th im nw is4

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r rpss f Cns ?3 A. We, I think it of what wa in the chet

4 w preented to you And t wa different nut ot crew and ftener.6 Nw, did c h is in h hs7 yurslf? A. I did.9 . id nyn sss yu?

A. N. . s nyn s prsn h m h y1 d h chs fr Cns ? A. N. For ecurity reaon I didnt want it.4 Oy. S n n winssd h iing h1 n chs?

16 A. Crrect.7 . All righ hn did y ill h hs? A I ot reca the exact date tt I did it9 or the time tht I did it. y rcll whhr i ws n wdy r n wnd? A. I ont reca that eiter.23 Q. yu cll hw lng i ws frm h im4 yu bind h snrs h im yu5 cully illd h chs?

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A. Tht good quetion. I dont recll.2 Q. All rig.3 R. SIVAN d you ma tat4 as ?5 TH CORT RPORTR es.6 R. SIVAN Oay geat. I'll

7 as te cort reporter to mar as WCCO. eendans bit a single-paged docment beaing document I STS 68.

1 WERON WCCO eendans' Eibi umber as mared o2 denticaton by te cort reporte)13 S CARK Wat s tis Stepnes4 15 R SIVAN t's 6 S CARK Sepnes 317 R SIVAN m sorry. No1 its WCCO eendats' ib it . t1

contnues rom ere e le o te last20 time.

21 S. CARK Statng you mean it22 all te laints23 R. SIVAN ea remembe24 e -- because some o t e ones -25 S CARK It's been a ile

to play page o descrition and pctues in2 te tcen eat room o ts ome an ave3 illed it it enoug nts bots scres an4 nals to easonably buid a ome i.''s Do you see tat6 A. Correct.

7 Q. ay. Wee tere any ote asteners in tea cest ote tan ns bolts scres and nails

A And other ftener. There were other type11 of ftener in there2 Q. Al rgt. So tere ee oter asteners3 oter tan nts bolts scres and nails in14 te es5 A. I gue they could ll e leled nut or16 o or crew or nil of ome kind e.1 Q. Al rigt. Were tere an y ote items

1 A. Yu know ut I ted to ue more generic2 ter, nd I dont know why it not on thi2 pg, ut of ftener22 Q. All rgt. Wer tere any oter items in te23 cest2 4 A ht do you men y oher item in the chet25 Q Anyting ote tan a nt, a bolt a scre a

R. SIVAN True Some o te2 ones tat e ad used prevously I se3 agan today so ater tan ave to --

4 S . CARK ea tat's e.5 BY R SIVAN6 Q . Senes ave you ad n oportnity to7 revie eendans bit 3 A. Im tll reviewing it. Oky Q. Al l rigt. o you recognie Ebit ?

A. I do.1 Q. And could yo identiy it r t record2 please3 A It eem to e printout of pge tht w on14 the weite on the Big rem Home Givewy.5 Q A rig And yo loo don tere n te

16 loer igt-and corner, you ll see a date 7 ay , 008 o yo see tat1 A. I do. Q. Oay. No yo cold loo at i nd o te2 mddle o te page youll see a little21 ea ding tat says, "e Contes:. o you see tat23 A. Correct24 Q Oay An d ten e sentence ater tat says,25 We ave placed a large cest vis te o

na il r an ote astener2 A. Y.

3 Q. Ad a ere tose tems

4 A ere w pltc drop coth tht w put5 in the chet efore I put nything in there.6 It w vey ver thi ni plti d 7 w there to protect the chet from eing dmged y the item tht were eing pced in it There w lo ox of nil in the

chet. It ecme very oon I trted11 filling up thi chet the weight of ll of2 thi thing needed omething to help tilie13 nd diure the content i t. So I put 4 ox f ni n the chet. hey were 15 round they were ound pool of omethng

6 tht would fit into ni gun17 Q. And en you say it as a bo at ind o bo as it A It w the crdord ox tht the nil cme2 in2 Q All rigt. An d ere te nais in te bo22 A. I eleve they were.23 Q. yo emember te sie o - you nd iated24 ey ere nails o a na il gu n o you25 remember te sie

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A dont 'm sorry. Q. All rigt. nd ow ig was te ox, te3 cardoad ox a pproxmate4 A Br thn sho box. don't rll th5 xct dmnsons of .6 Q a. Was te ox seaed

A don't blv so don't kno fo sur,8 but don't blv s bcus blv9 tht hd tkn o of soos out of

th box Q. A rigt. ow, dd ou -- were tere an oter tems in t e ox oter tan nuts,3 ots, screws, nals and oter asteners and4 tese two tems tat ouve descred to us5 A Thts ll n thnk of.6 Q A rigt Were did ou get te items tat ou placed in te cest

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8 A bout thm om Dot nd Mnrds.

9 Q. An d dd ou prcase tem ourse A. dd Q A igt MR SULVAN: I'll as te court324

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epoter to mar as eendants' Ext amult-paged document earng idetcationnumers SEES toug .

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WEREU, WCC eendants Exit umer was mared or3 identcation te cout repote

4 MS CLARK: Wat are e mang5 ts one6 MR SLVAN: is i ll e . B MR SULLVAN:8 Q M. Stepnes, do o recogne eendants'9 Exit

A. t looks fmlr Q. A gt. Can ou ident Exiit o te record, please3 A. t looks lk rcts of ms tht r4 uchsd n My of ' t Mnrds n d om5 Dot And th ls on ooks k h s

6 y s Mnrds rt, h lst Q Cou d ou loo at te irst page o Exit8 t te ates numer at te ottom 9 ou see down tee tere's a date at te ve ottom. It oos lie a 0, 008. o ou see tat A do3 Q. a. Is it ou undestanding tat ts4 relects a ecept or asteners purcased5 or Contest

dos. Q a ou cold please oo at te secon3 page o te exit, ates numer 0, 4 see now nd o te pper al o te5 docment o' ll see a date tee appeas to6 e a , 008. o ou see tat

A Ys.8 Q. a An d t is appeas to e additional9 asteers ou loo at te midd le o te

page oull see tee ae scews, roong nas, it oos ie galvanied spes and ten egt penn spies. o ou see tat3 A Ys4 Q . a. o tese appea to e addit ional5 asteners purcased or Contest 6 A dos.

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Q. a. ow, i ou oo aove te scres, te8 one on te li ne tere or $.80, o'll see

9 an entr - - tree entries actall or plastic, t oos e plastc ag goods. o o see tat A Ys3 Q. a. And $ 8 a pece t appears. o ou4 no at tose tems ere5 A. hnk f you hd th urs tht r

sn to you of hs tms, shos t

thy'r ll ks of srs or hvr3 Hom ot tnds o sll, dont kno,

4 ttl ckts of srs or fstns of5 ctn knds n rkd bs6 Q. . All igt. And ten ontnug ver on te ext page, Bates numer , tere's a woe st o vaious astenes o one sort9 or anote. And it appears tat tis is --

ou ndcated earler it's a page o a Menrds recept A t looks lk 3 Q. Yea o ou no ere te irst page o4 t e recept s5 A s ll on rt so s

6 foldd bk or somn Thr's fold ln hr. don t kno8 Q a. ow, r Stepnes --9 A B yo o n thr nd buy somthn, y do ll on on rt. Q . a. So ou get a lon g reept A Yu on r3 Q a. Al l rigt o o -- looing at4 tis list ere on age , can ou determne5 weter tese are asteners or Contest or

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1 TE WTNESS: m te maste o m2 blae.3 BY MR. SLLVAN4 Q t ing to get us out o ee o a5 luneon bea at :306 MS. CARK Wat tie is it now

7 MR. SLLVAN: 98 MS. CARK o ou ave a poblem9 i we go now

MR SLLVAN: o, not eal.1 TE WTNESS: Oa2 MR. SLLVAN: Wou ou pee3 TE WTNESS: I woul.4 TE VDEO TECNCAN We ae5 oing o te eo at pm.6 (WHRUO a eess was taen o17 lun ate wi te olowng tanspie.18 TE VDEO TECNCAN We ae ba

9 on te eo at 9 pm2 BY MR SLVAN:2 Q. ll gt M . Stepnes beoe we to u

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o ou Is tee an eputatonal a tat2 ou ave suee tat ou aven't alea3 tol us about tis moning4 A. m sure there s. just nt re t5 ths tme.6 Q. ll igt. J

7 A. thnk nsered t n some8 nterrogtores too; ddnt 9 Q. 'll sow ou tat in a mnute. ut ust as

1 ou st ee toa an ou tin o an1 possiona eputational am tat ou ave12 sue

13 A thnk the lk of busness tht e gotten14 sne ths hs dmged my rofessol15 retton.16 Q. Oa. n wen ou ee to te la o17 busess tat's wat ou wee telling us8 abot in tes o u busness as peso w

9 bus, enovates an sells ole omes2 A. A blds ne old homes.2 Q. O. gt n an ote apait

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lun eo bea we a ase ou t o tae a 22 A. thnk tht ould be ery hdressed tooo at WO eenants' bit 3, 23 go b n to rerutng exeutvespeall aagp 6 o ags 3 2 4 rertng s elaing ove to 25 Q. Oa gt nting ese

1 o ou ave paagap 6 beoe2 ou3 A. do.4 Q. Oa I oul loo tee at te top o5 page , o ul see t ees to statements6 being eaat o a ten te nes up7 o te bottom o te paagap it sas "pla nti's pesonal poessonal an 9 busiess eputation ou see tat

1 A. do.11 Q. Oa. o w, beoe ou uneon eess ou12 wee telling us about am to ou pesna13 eputation an ou tol us as wel sme o4 te a a s I unestoo it to ou business5 eputation aso.

6 A. Corret.17 Q. e eeene tee in te oplaint to ou18 poessonal eputatn, es tat ovelap19 wt ou business eputation iS tat2 eent in sme asion21 MS. CLARK: Objet to om22 TE WTNESS: oul ou as te23 uestion again pease2 4 BY MR SLLVAN:25 Q Yea Let me see i I a n mae it simple

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A. m ure there s nd m sue nsered t2 n my ntrrogtores. f you hve somethng3 tht n refresh my emory d be hy to4 tlk bout t.5 Q. l igt et's see6 M. SLVAN: 'ii as te out7 epoe to a as WO eenants ibit8 6 a multipage oument tat appeas to be9 te plants answes to te t set o

inteogatoies. s on e ate ovembe 11 0012 HRUO WO eenants'13 it ube 6 was mae o4 entiiaton b te ut epote.)5 M CLARK: Sometmes a ell pone

6 even i ou'e not talng on it an a use a7 little eleton inteeene18 TE WTNESS: an I as, as ts19 been upate sine ts ate2 Y MR SLLVAN:2 Q. It ave Te ption tat going to22 eaine ou on I o not tin as been wi23 is Inteogato an te answe to tat24 one25 M Stepnes, oul ou tae a loo

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a h las pag of xhibi 6, plas Do you s hr in h mddl of h pag a3 signaur?4 A s5 Q And s ha your signaur?6 A blv t s

Q. kay An d you undrsood a h im ha you r signing i undr oah?9 A Coct

1 Q Al righ. f you could look, plas a h11 hid pag of h documn youll s hr1 nrogaory No. 13 A hhum14 Q. And i asks you abou moional diss15 damags.16 A Oky1 Q. And hn if you look don a h boom of1 h pag ou'l s h' a poron ta

19 says "Ansr: Wihou aivi ng h fogoing20 objons, Spns n hrugh h1 xprinc of h dfamaion by CBS h obsvd as hos vns ha ar s forh3 in h Complain ocurrd, a nd ahd h

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1 A thnk t lstd fo months Q. And h porion hr abou xprincing far ong ou in public, do you sill xprinc4 far hn you go ou in public?5 A don't o out, scly - don't o out6 n t monns vy much nymo Lk

7 usd to o out vy monn nd don't do tht much t ll nymo9 Q. And hy s ha?

1 A just k bn t hom mo ts jst -11 ts just much mo lxd nvonmnt fo1 m ts much mo - just don't dl th13 th stss cn mmb on out nd f14 vn just s fo nstnc olc c 15 woud just bk out n cold swt fo 6 bsolutly no son t l nd just wnt to t u nd un nd nc vn thouh hd1 don nothn on Nv commttd crm

19 And tht but just ntn to f nd not ntd to b out n thos scs nd1 ncountr tht knd of fln Q. All igh You ind cad hr ha you3 avodd plac you had prvously gon lik

24 rspons of hos popl and businsss 4 your moring coff shop5 aound hm, and h knos ha h suffrd 5 A Coct

) 1 1 1 1 moional dsrss as a rsul. If hs 1 Q ay And ho long did ha las hr you inrogaoy i qusing sympoms Spns avoid your morning cof shop?3 hr indicas. 3 A Wl don't o th t l nymo or vy

4 Do you s ha? 4 y Vy ly5 A es.6 Q. kay An d hn if you urn ovr o h nx pag you'll s hr a h op of h pag h's a rfrnc o slp issus, hich 9 akd abou bfor ou lunchon brak.

A Coct11 Q. Do you s ha A Coct1 Q. kay. An d hn h nx im is anxiy,14 hich didn ' raly covr. You 'll s15 hr i says "Anxiy anxiy aaks,

16 fa, mbarrassmn, h umi liain, n o aning1 o go o pacs h had prviously gon lik1 his mor nn g coff shop) fo far of bng9 sn and aching h looks on popls facs ho had clarly sn h broadcas1 Do you s ha? A do3 Q. kay No, n rms of h anxiy, ovr 4 ha prod of im did you suffr from hs5 anxiy

5 Q. s ha bcaus you movd?6 A Tt' o o t rsons vn th so tht usd to b t of tht sho hs movd clos to my hous nd stll don't o th9 vy monn

1 Myb cn xln tht lttl11 dffrntly1 Q. Su3 A Rustc s bky wthn coff sho tht4 usd to o to vy monn nd just15 don't do tht much nymo, vn thouh ts

16 movd los to my hous1 Q All righ. You indicad h in ha1 ansr ha you had a far of bing sn and19 aching h ooks on popl's facs hoO ary had sn h broadcas Eo you s ha? A Coct3 Q ay o you connd ha popl sill4 rcogniz you o his day from h WCC5 rpo ha aid on Juy 8?

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45, yo s that paagaph pontd to yo air, aly nty prchass wil b 2ncldd n p to twnty six wy drawings 3At th nd of ach w a drawing will b hld for an addtiona piz, ach wk th 5wnnr wil b annoncd on th wb st and

6by ma o phon if possibl All sch 7ntris, incldng oftn winning ntis rom 8wkly dawings, wil b ncldd n 9appicabl sbsnt dawngs as wll as th 10grand pr"

o yo s that 2A I do. 13Q. Okay According to my collag Mr rg's 4

comptr and hs calnda sarch, Mothr's Day in 008 was Snday, May th 16A. Okay. 1 7

Q l rght So now, with rspct to th

8wly drawing, dos this appar to 9accratly flct th rls s of May , 2 0008 2A. I don't recal. 22

Q A l ight o yo nowldg wr thr 23mtp vsions of rls on t h wbsi at 2th sam point in tm 2

Pg 75 1MS CARK Obct to th form

THE WITNSSDo yo want to as

2that stion again, plas 3BY MR. SU IVAN: Q S ta t yo ndavord to hav a 5

sng s o rls for pacipants 6A. Correct. 7Q. Oay So do yo hav ason to bv that 8

thr was som dirnt st of rls as of 9May , 0 08, othr than what w hav bfo 0s hr rflctd in Exhibit 30 1A. I dont recall. 12

Q Al rght 13MR. SUIVAN ll ask th cor rpot to mak a s Dfndants' Exhbit 3 a

1snglpagd docmnt barng dntication 1 6nmbr SEPNES 3 7

WERPON, WCCO Dfndant' 8Exhbit Nmb 3 was markd fo 19 idntiicaton by th cot rportr 20BY MR . SULLIVAN 2

Q Stpns, hav yo had an opportnity to 22look ovr dfndants Exhibit 3 23A I have 2

Q Al rght Do yo rcogniz Exhbit 3 2

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A. It looks familiar.Q Can yo idntfy t fo th cod, plasA. It ooks lke a sgn that mht have bee onthe ront door.Q Al right In fact, was ths a copy of a

sign that was on th font doo of th rving

otsid hos n May o 008A. I don't know that I do't recall that.Q Did yo hav difrnt vrsions of th sgn

on th ont door at dffrnt points drngth contstA. Yes.

Q Al ight And how many dfrnt vrsionsdid yo havA. I don't recall.

Q Did yo -- strik that o yo rcogn thhandwrtng at th top of th pag that sayso it appas to to sa "osting on door"

A I don't recall that. I dont know who t s.I'm sorr.Q Al rghtMR. SULLIVAN Ill ask th cort

potr to mar s fndants' Exhbit 3 asingl-pagd docmnt baring idnticationnmbr STEPNES II 33

EREPON, w fnantsExhiNmbr 3 wa markd fordntiication by th cort rporrM MAONY 3M. SULLIVAN 3

Pag

B M R. SUIVANQ r Stpns hav yo had an oppotnity to

look ovr Dfndants' Exhibt 3A. I o.Q D yo rcognz Exhbit ?A It loos famlar.Q Al right os it appar to yo to b an

mai xchang btwn yo and Mr Mihm aso ay 8, 008, rgarding th wky drawingfor the microwave?

A. It does appear to be that.Q Okay Now, yo s th th n am Grgoy .

StrzlckiA. I o see thatQ All right Was r Strzlcki th first

wkly drawing winnA. YesQ All ight If yol look down at th bottom

porin o th Email, which chronologcallys th first E-mal xchang btwn yo and

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she ws rtt thorough n feedng them l2 the nformton tht they needed to know Q Al l igh Ho abo h nx im h liss4 hr says yo faid o discos o56

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7 A. Frst of ll d lke to know where need to med erson thts workng for me on9 roerty tht he tht he to

dsuss whether he len on the roerty or not.2 Q All igh. My qsion s -- A. Tht's wy out of the soe of wht hs4 resonsbltes were n ths.5 Q A igh. My qsion s simplr My6 qsion is: Did yo fail o dsclos o hm7 ha h r o spaa lns agans8 h popy?

9 MS CARK: Hang on. Hang on.2 s hold on . Obc o h form.2 TE WTNESS: Do yo an o ak22 h qsion again, plas2 B MR SULLVAN:24 Q Wll, s s if can rn rond25 Did yo Mr Bonacorso ha hr r

anyhing abo h kly cons aspc of2 hs, pris? A. dont rell.4 Q All righ. And hn, asly, did yo l56

M Bonacoso abo h bankrpcy ilingsas o Chsr Hos Homs?

7 A. o there wsn't ny need to. Q hh hr as a nd o or no, my9 qion is: Dd yo him abo h

banpcy sas o hs Hos Homs MS. CARK: Hang on a scond.2 Objc o h for. Assms facs no in vidnc4 TE WTNESS I bv ansrd5 h sion alrady6 B MR. SULLVAN7 Q Did yo dsclos o M Bonacorso anyhng8 abo h bankrpcy sas of Chsr Hos

9 Homs?2 T WTNSS: Did yo an o rad2 back my ans ha said hn h askd ha22 qon2 (HERE PN, h ans apparng2 4 on g 8, in as rad back by h25 cor rpor)

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4 o My q son as Dd yo l hm ha5 Did yo dsclos ha6 A t ws't rt of the ort d dd't7 need to8 Q Al righ9 MS. CLARK I hink ha yo

prio qsion knd of bil n h kind of faild o disclos par. I hink ha's ha2 hs acing o, cons. MR. SULVAN All igh.4 B MR. SULLVAN5 Q m ask yo his Did yo Mr

6 BonacorsO abo a hand forcosr7 dadn prior o h gam rdmpion da?8 A. es9 Q So yo disclosd ha o him?2 A Oh bsolutely2 Q Al rgh Did yo ll M Bonacorso ha22 yo had aild o aard and/or oify a2 ky cons innr24 A No25 Q Al igh Did yo ll Mr Bonacorso

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B MR. SULVAN2 Q All gh . M Spns, did yo vr conidrdsclosng on h bs ha h

4 dra hos as n forcosr5 A No ddnt thnk t ws neessry. sd6 t ke negte stuton nd turn t7 nto oste one.8 Q All righ. And did yo f any nd o ll9 h fks ha r on

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paiipa in yor cons ha ha ngav siaon as2 A. dd. tod ots of eole nludng ennette Trometer when she sted the4 house n June.5 Q N, my qsion is mor spcifically on h

6 bi Dd yo f h nd o ll folks7 ho visd yor bsi and sa his8 frn o a ngav siaion9 A. Pole ould ontt me through the weste2 f tey wnted to know wht tht ws ws2 mor thn hy to nswer the queston.22 Q A gh Mr Spns, ping asid h2 cons rlad arrs in May of , hav24 yo vr bn arrsd on any ohr25 occaions?

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1 m douments to my aontant ad e fled 1 Q ght hanks2 out te taxes 2 A And e epesented to me tat e as an Q A ght Ad as you sit hr today do you aqantane and kne Esm upy.4 bv th to b truthful and accurat 4 Q A right Ayo s?5 rturns? 5 A. Tose tee and Esm esef.6 A ts based o te nfomaton tat ad. 6 Q Al ight Mr Stps, ar thr occasions

7 Q Al right 7 h athough you ddt giv a foral8 A. Ad tat gave m trvi to a rort or ornaist, that9 Q kay Mr Stps, ho any ts hav you 9 you nvrhss povidd a cont or a

0 b ntrvd by a ortr or a 10 quot?1 ouaist? 11 A. don't eall. just doneall.2 A don't kn\. 12 Q Al ight Q Can you giv us an approxat ubr? 1 A. m sue tee mgt ave been ove te4 A. dot know 4 ose of my lfe but just dont eall.5 Q As you si t h today ca you tll us hat 5 Q All right6 s tts hav sought intvis ith you 6 R. SUVAN: I'll ask th cout7 t h past? 7 rportr to ak as fdants xhbit a8 A Wa t do you mean by ews enttes 1 sngl-pagd docunt barng idtifcatio

9 Q Nsas tlvision statos, b 19 ub STPS .20 ubl catos, any o f thos 20 (HUP, WCC Dfndants2 A. Newspapes te Soutwest oal and te 21 xhit Nubr 3 as arkd for22 Sta & Tbune. neve dd speak wt te 22 idtification by th co rpotr2 wt t e Sta & Tbune efeed tem to 2 S. CLARK: Stpns .24 m awye 24 B R . SU LLVAN25 Q Al right 25 Q Mr Stpns, hav you had a canc to look

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1 A. m sue tees moe bt tats al an 1 ovr xhibit 3?2 tk of at ts tme. 2 A. ave Q ay I trs of ns ntitis hch ns Q All ight o you rcogi xhibit ?

4 tits actually obtad an ntrv ith 4 A. do.5 you that you can rcall stting hr today? 5 Q Ad can you idntify t fo th rcord,6 A. Wll CCO akd fo one one e tey 6 p7 knoked on my doo at my ouse. And ten 7 A. t's a -mal tat sent to a goup of tey asked fo tey ounded eally peole Tom Baett and ten abon oped9 ouded ad sed a nmbe of dffeet people 9 Caolyn Abema Senato Dbble; ael

10 to o nd me to do te ntevew wt Esm 10 Smag wo s Senato Dbble's ade ean11 uy on te ouse 11 Golden; ll Clak; Dan Gowan a seato12 Q A you frrig to th story on th 12 fo te seate fo te state o nnesota;1 cotst? and ten Sott at s own pesonal Emal4 A Coet. 4 addess.5 Q kay And you say thy houndd you? 5 Q Scott ho?

6 A Coet 6 A Sato Dbble.7 Q ou ndicatd thy houndd you through othr 17 Q , oh hak you18 ol Who r thsothr opl? 18 Ad th t dicats that you19 A. ennfe Togeson a fend of Esms 19 fordd ths to Paul Sionso; corct?20 Q Al rght 20 A. t looks lke dd.21 A. Ad Sott Cstensen. 21 Q ay And hy dd you foad th - ai l to22 Q And ho is Scott Christns? 22 Bartt and th othr individuals tha t you2 A A fed of ennfes and a gentleman wo -- 2 cod it to to Mr Sionson?24 e's aso te salesman at Cannel and 24 A Pl was wong fo me o settng up te25 annel 25 Ceste ose Fondato and jst wanted to

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ih o Bar4 A It s n Sento bbe's offce I dont5 ecll the exct dte Q Okay Th -ail hat hav bfo us s

7 dad May , 008 Do you s hat A Coect Q Okay Ho clos in as h ting in

Snao Dbbs offc ih Mr Barrt A hs s n Al beee of tht ye2 Q Okay. A the ch o Al but thnk t s4 A5 Q A right And hn f yo look a h firs paagraph, you s t says, Our firs7 convrsation as n Snator Dibbs offic a h Stat Capial ih yorslf and Dan

Mcoan th Sna Couns -- I hn ca yo2 a day or o atr.2 Do you s ha22 A Coect2 Q Okay And so yo ould hav cad Mr24 Barr a coup days atr in April25 A Coect

Q Okay And yo'r saying h said h had -2 ha as fin by hi or ha did h say in rspons

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7 A To genete nteest nd to kee ele cong bck to st the ebste Q All igh Wha did h say in rspons to

tha, f anyhing A ecuse thee sn't ny consdeton he2 ddn't seem to he oble th t Q Okay f you look don a h fnal14 paagraph, you say, "Please feel free to call

5 agan abou his -- oud apprcia a16 esponse from you o n this",

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Q Okay Did Mr Barrt rspond o you2 A e clms he nee got ths Eml2 Q Al righ Did any of h ohr rcipins22 rspond o you2 A I don't ecl I kno tht Scott - Sento24 Dbble esonded to Ton ett to conf25 tht ths s tue

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Q Okay A righ And hn you cad hi ,2 ho as on h ca A yself nd et

4 Q N o on s5 A Tht's coect Q Al ih. And ha did h say on ha ca A I escbed the contest tht I s go ng to do nd he sd he hd bsolutely no oblem th tht

Q Okay Did h say anyhng s A I dd tlk to hm bout tht sd e2 ee gong to he eekly ze th the contest nd tht thee s no consdeton4 th the eekly ze5 Q Okay If you look a your -ai h, in

16 h scond paragraph i says, Bcaus i s17 a ga of skill yo u sad you had no pobl ih h ga -- also in ha convsaion said h a going o hav a kly2 pr and ha hr as no charg o nr2 for that -- hs aking aay considraion 2 2 A Coect2 Q h spakr is lf ou Also n ha24 convsaion said, ho sad25 A I sd

Q o, ha frring o s did any of hs2 cpins rspond o you A Nt tht I I dont ecll

4 Q Okay. Dd you follo up ih Mr Bart and5

say Why hav n' hard back fro youA I ont ecl

7 Q All igh. Mr Spns, hy did yo snd this -ai on May , 008 A ecuse I hd been ested the dy befoe

nd I nted to document the fct tht e hd the eetng nd get t on the ecod2 Q. All rght Did you v a any subsq unt poin ap o follo u p th M Barr4 o doun ha pror discussion5 A I on't ecl. I do kno tht I hd hs

busess cd n my cot ocket nd tht s17 one f the tems tht Segent Rtschel took he he dd the sech nt nd h e nee19 netoed t nd t s nee etuned to2 me2 Q All right Mr Spns, ha as Pal22 Sionsons ol in conncion ih h2 con24 S CLARK: Objcion, vagu25 TE ITNESS Wha do you an by

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0 nd h tlkd bot hs knoldg of sttng up S(c)'s nd so h d hd h m n tht cpcty.3 Q All rgh Which on o ou las usd4 him as a PA?5 A Clnt Mcgn6 Q No, dd ou r Mr Simonson as a lar, a7 A o ha? A hd hm bs of hs knoldg

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4 ormulaing h cons uls?5 MS CLARK 'm gong o objc o6 h vagunss o h cons7 TE WTNESS: did no us him or a9 B MR SULLVAN:

0 Q All rgh Did Mr Simonson advis ou ha h ofical cons ruls canno chang onc cons ad bgun?3 MS CLARK: bjcon, vagu 'm4 sor, objc as o form5 THE WTNESS nvr sough his

6 advc on ha ha can rcall7 B MR SULLVAN: Q Rgh And m qson s Dd h advs9 ou o a, ha h cons ruls canno0 cang onc cons had bgun? A don't cl l. MS. CLARK: Can ou lav m som3 spac?4 THE WTNESS: Su5 MS CLARK bjcion bjc as

o rm MR. SULLVAN:3 Q Did M r S monson advc ou ha conss4 hr ou guss numbr o bans n jrs ar no considrd gams of skill and ar6 hus lgal?

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0 is d advs o u ha conss r o guss n umbr o bans in a jar a no gams o skll and ar h us illgal?3 A don't cll4 Q All righ5 MR SULLVAN ll ask cou6 por o mark as Dndans hbi 39 a sngl-pagd documn barng D numbr SNS 3

9 HR P, W Dndans0 h Numbr 39 as mard or idnificaion b h cou rpor TE WTNESS: ka3 B MR SULLVAN:4 Q Hv ou ad an oppoun o look ovr5 Dndas' hib 39?

A s Q Do ou rcogni hibi 39?3 A t looks fml

4 Q All righ And ou s up h on h op5 gh cornr i's un 9, 008?6 A Ct7 Q ka Dos s appar o ou o b a bsi prn o h mmbrs aa as o un9 9, 08?

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A. had asked hm that at the tme that e had 1 Q. ka. Wa appd ar av ou a2 roe the ebste and also had sent hm an ma too at some ont.4 Q. id o vr ollow p o cck o s5 w prsvd wbsi? A. beleve he dd ontat me and told hm

hat e needed to reserve eerythn on the ebste. Q. ka. id ou docun a convrsaion n

1 wn?1 A. don't real12 Q. 'd lik o ocs on Ma 8 da Ma 813 008. Is undrsandin a was da14 a ou w arsd s a i?15 A That's orret1 Q. ka. W did ou irs bcom awa a1 poc ad arrvd a rvn ous?

2 busnss cad ad old ou wr poli oirs?4 A. hh they never dd. They never ran the5 doorbell. They just bared nto the hose. AndSereant Rtshel n a very loud ruff

7 voe sad: understad you'e runn an lleal ambln oeraton here._ And sad No don't beleve am. And Caroly sad

1 Why don't you folks o u front and talk11 about ths. Sh e as stayn bak n the12 kthen hearth room tryn to ontnue the1 nterve th the Southest Journal.14 And hen Sereant Rtshel sad:15 Oh andhy s that? sad ell that 1 had met h Senator Dbble the head -- hat7 resumed to beleve to be the as the head

1 A as n the kthen harth room standn by lea ounsel for the senate for the state of

1 the frelae n the kthen hearth room and Mnesota and the head of the state Gambln2 as n the mddle of the nterve or the 2 ontrol Board n Senator Dbble's offe n21 nterve had atually just started beleve 2 St. Paul and had orked out a ay that 22 with the Southwest Journl. Excuse me. And

23 thee's a lttle alarm - there as a lttle

24 alarm n the house that any tme there as an25 exteror door that as oened t ould bee

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1 n the kthen hearth room And ould hear2 the front door oen and the bee. And so turned my head to see hat that as al about

4 and sa to ndvduals runnn around n5 the nnroom . a did o u do a a poin? A. as tryn to onentrate on those to ndvduals and the nterve. And the ublst ho as there at the tme th me

Carolyn Aberman sad she ould o and see1 hat as on on.12 Q. W o saw os indivdals, w ou abl13 o idnif a wr unord polic14 oics?15 A. They ere not n unform.

1 Q ka. Wr o abl o idn m as7 polic oics a a im?1 A. They ee n the house. They ere n the foyer beteen the lvn room and the2 kthen And they told - they handed me a2 busness ard and sad they ere ole22 offers.2 Q Wa appn d nx?24 A. And there as a sn on the front door that25 sad Rn bel for entry.

22 ould do ths. And Senator Sereant23 Rtschel's response was (indicating), what do

24 they kno? t as at that ont just a old25 hll ran throuh me. reazed as

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4 Q. Wa appnd nx?5 A. He asked to me y drver's lense and sd belve your n my hose thout7 my vtaton dont need to sho you my and 'm on to ask that you leave. Q Wa di d sa o do rspons o a

1 A He sad Put yor hands behnd your bak11 ou'e under arrest for not ooeratn th12 my nvestaton. sad to hm : thnk you'e makn a hue mstake. At that tme14 he sreamed a t me a nd Sereant Moore ot5 rouh th m e and rabbed m e an d ut my hand

6 behnd my bak hle he ut the uffs on.17 Atthat tme Carol Aberman alks1 around th orne aan and she sad Oh my19 God. Oh my God. Oh my God. What's on2 on? And sad Call Jll Clark my21 attoney We ere handn nsde the house22 n the foyer And at that ont Sereant2 Rtshel sad Jll Clark hh n a snotty24 snde tone Thats all need to arrest yor25 ass. Ad he oeeded to take the handufs

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that wee leady on me nd squeee them even tighte and tighte until they cut into my3 wists4 Q. Dcb ho -- ou dcrbd Srgan Moor5 oghl ratng ou o g o no6 handcff crb ha hat a

7 A She just stated baking odes and told me8 to put my hands behind my bak, whih did9 Q. ka

0 A And gabbed me and stted, you know, mnhandling me Q. Wr o njrd a hat pon?3 A was not ding anything was just4 stnding thee just said: think yue5 mking a big mistake Q Wr ou njud n an a a that m?7 A was The handuffs ut nt my skin My8 lawye ame dwn to the ji within n hou

9 of my being aested and tok pitues of it0 Q. At ha pont -- A t was weeks nd weeks befe those mks heal ed and went wa y hands wee numb fo3 weeks4 Q Dd ou go o h docor r tha?5 A , did not

q, Wh not? A assumed that the numbness would go wy3 Q. a

4 A t didn't5 Q. And ou ad h numbn lad or ? A Cet7 Q. Aft t n aa hav ou had an da problm rlatng o our hand or r9 A had vey se one finge thught was

0 boken t had been when he ws putting the handcuffs on me, believe Segeant2 Ritschel hut that fnge nd thought it3 was boken showed it t a docto fiend4 nd he said it wasnt boken, so -5 Q Snc th --

A But it took a lng time fo that finge to7 feel nomal and well again Q o long?9 A nths0 Q I nomal no? A t's still soe e dct said! ou'l l have a ad time making fist3 Q Whch hand?4 A y ight hnd5 Q Whn ou a "h docor, ha our

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docor frnd? A Yes, the doto fiend3 Q. Oa Wa ha n a formal mdca v o4 ju frnd-o-rnd convraton?5 A st a fiendtofiend onvesation Q. d o k an mdcal tramnt for our

7 han or ?8 A o9 Q. hn Srgant Rchl a n th rvng

0 ho th ou, dd h vr ak ou or tll o u ha o u ndd o ca an d d h contt?3 A o, he did not4 Q Yur compan or amdd complan n h5 mattr ag a lac of nvgaton b Srgant Rchl a h tm of our arrt7 Wha dd h al o nvga n our v8 A e well, he bked me int jai ne the9

ode of concealing my identity with sk0 t shows to me tht he didn't even knw what stattes he was deling wth when h e aested me To be hed withut bai to me fo a3 cie that even if ws guity, was about4 the quilent f a speeding tiket, t ld5 smebdy without bai l s tht he culd go

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stat to investigte things withut ny intefeene and the fat that he gt the3 call nd ame teing ove t the huse4 nev investigated anything befoe he cmes ove just assumed tht what was ding was ilegl n i my peein di n ny7 evidene of any kind t tht time now thee's moe knw that my9 lwyes esponded to this And without sme

0 sot of doument in font f me just an't eal anything else that can sy about it at this time3 Q All rgh or amndd complant a4 Paragraph 44 allg ha h a fal nfoaon n h arran ha a obtand

and ctd a h Irvng hou and/or h17 that h arrant affdav a no balancd8 Wh do o cam ha 9 A Again, m not a lawye don't eall0 whats in just -- m soy, don't think an nswe tat qestion as sit he3 Q a Who rfrnc thn o --4 A Uless you have a doument o smething tha5 you n sow me

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Q . Well m loong for yor bes recoecton as we st ee today Wat n te warrant3 acaton or affdavt was false to yor4 ecoecton as yo st ee today5 . LARK: tn e's asng6 for te warrant Do you ave te warranty

7 tself -- or mean te warant appcaton R. OORE dont gt now9 THE WITE: ased upon wat

0 eard at Sergeant Rtscels deoston, t sounded l e e wasnt forcomng w t te judge on all of te nformato and probaby13 f e ad been woldn't ave been ganted te4 waant.5 lso, you now agan, 'm not a6 lawyer. dont really feel comfortable7 an swerng tat eston wtot avng some sort f docmentaton n front f me.

9 B R. OORE: 0 Q. Wat dd you ear at ergeant tscel's deposton tat ed you to te concluson tat e was not flly ortcomng t o te3 jdge at te tme tat e appled fo te4 \Varant5 A. Bsd n sm qustinig tht I hd fm

my ttny Q o you reca wat tat was3 A I dn"t.

4 Q Oay. fte Contest # was canceled yous ntated wat 've been referng to6 co!oay as ontest # . o you7 nderstand wat 'm tang about tere A. I d

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9 Q. Oay At t e tme tat you began ontest #0 wee yo confdent tat tat contest could scceed n ts objectves A. I hd I flt tht with th ight kind f3 mdi xpsu with th ight Intnt14 xpsu with th ight mdi publictins5 with th ight mkting tm nd

6 dvtising tht I culd g fwd d hv 7 succssful cntst. Q Oay. t's my ndestan dn g tat wt egad9 to bot ontest # and ontest # n order0 for te gand rze of te ome or te alternatve mllo n dollar prze to be awared, te contest needed to sell 0,0003 tcets s tat gt4 A Tht wuld b cct.5 Q Oay W at would appen f tat nm ber of

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tcets were not sold by te contest end date3 A By th cntst nd dt?4 Q. Yes.5 A htv mnis w cllctd h f thm6 wld g t th winn nd th th hlf

7 wld sty with th cntst.B Q ee epenses to be pad out of te money9 coected?

0 A Ys Q. efoe o after te dstbton to te -- A. Bf I bliv.13 Q. ay. Wo was to do te accountng as to4 epenses n tat scenaro?5 . ARK: Obect as to form.6 TE WITNE: We one of te7 peoe tat was oong to to do te acconng on te contest was Pau Smonson.9

ant gotten tat far wt tat yet.0 BY R OORE Q oday yo told us tat you tougt yo could sell 0000 0 tcets. o yo recall tat3 testony4 A. I d.5 Q. on wat do you base te belef tat yo

coul ave sold 00,000 tcets n te contest eter o 3 A. I yu k t th tjcty nd lk t

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4 wh ws dn nd hw tht cn multiply nd5 g I flt tht I culd hit tht mk. And6 lkng t th cntts n tking t thm7 n ti succsss nd hw thy hd dn it I knw tht I ws ding ll th cct9 things n it tht thy did f succssful

o cntsts Q togt ndestood yor testmony earler today to be t at yo appomated tat you3 were amed to te tune of $ m llon s14 tat at yo sad ealer today5 A. O th businss sid f things

6 Q. Oay. Tell me ow yo were armed to tat7 etent on te bsness sde of tngs A Th mny tht I wuld hv nd fm th9 cntst wuld hv pplld my busiss0 fwd Ths th businss pcts tht hd n t dwing bd Q Oay Does your estmaton of tose damages3 tae nto account te very dfclt rea4 estate aet at te tme5 A. It ds

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