DECLASSIFIED UNDER AUTHORITY OF THE INTERAGENCY SECURITY CLASSIFICATION APPEALS PANEL E013526 SECTION 53(b)(3)

ISCAP APPEAL NO 2014-045 document no 5 DECLASSIFICATION DATE November 132014

Te~ecommunications Manaaement b

~-Date ---s JMrf969 - shy

From John J

0 Malley Jr

To Initials Date v OConnell J D middot

lj ~ ~-- --~

- Clark R L Cole J E Cooke A R

- Culeeeeer c H Dinkle E K

Evans V F Filipski B w Fishkin L J Anderson J

Hailey L G Hall D B Dean w Jr Jansky D M Jones H Kirkcvold

1shyc H

La they c E 1shy

Buss L Miles P D

1shy -Mullen J T OConnell J R -Plu1nn1er w E Rogers N L Siling P F Ste lzcnrnu ller b v Olsson w r --

Urbany F s Ward D c

Raish L R 1-shy

Gambie W middotmiddotshy - ~--middotmiddot -middotmiddot - middot ------- middot ---

Hoxie L () As requested ( ) For Comment ( ) Approval f ~ For your info ( ) Appropriate Action ()Signature

() Concurrence ( ) Please Return () Per Conversation by COB____

FOR RIA USE ONLY

middot middot 1ampcM1HANDLINO middotrNOIC ATOA -tshy

c i I

~ - c il DATEDec~mber 22 1968

is presently Chairman of the I e (CCIR) of the International the DCM to report on his visit 1968

of the ITU to attend the Popov middotod that the Society has a ists and engineers and the as well as representatives of

bullt the meetingy however but iinvitati~L11r~Ix~n_X~ Je~y~~ m5erot the ITU s International 1 January 1965 until he was s Government on February 23

h that the real reason he was iaving the conversation with Minister of Communications

bly certain that Petrov assumed [de available to the U S Governshyi

FOR DEPT USE 0--LY

~111 00ilt

~------middot--middot--middot middotmiddot --- -~~

j DEP ARTYi ENT OF fTATE

(o middot I ~~ 1middot~- -------1middot~ ~middotmiddot

middot 1 f_ fnl1 ff~ middot[sectc~ ~middot ~4 r TEL--- J rt J 1

cS l ~1s~l c1 middot 1 ~ 1 middot~11 I - ~JcJ t- i o il -l ~-LJ --middot liJ

tz2J )JJ~j

n 1 FOR RIA USE ONL Y

--- middot---- - middotmiddot -middot---- - ~~ c~ J n 1 r - 1

r t_j ~g CONIDENTIAL - ~-middotJ--1 -----shy

middot ampC_f_l_v1_ c-

-f-i

---cu I f

~-ll 110 HANOI-INQ INOICAT O A --i

I To DEPARTMENT OF STATE middot E P 10

- +- 5

~+= f

I oo jfl

j ~ middot

i cL_l FROM U S Mission GENEVA DATEDecember 22 1968

NT __t~X--LJ susJEcT Possible Soviet Interest in Intelsat

I REF

n~J ~~~ N~v l 2__ 1f

__ ~)0 d 1middotIr Jad~ Herbs treit aU S citizen who is presently Chairman of the middot-Ju A l Intern-1tioral R1dio Consultative Committee (CCIR) of the International

c l middot 3 Teleco nmuniclt~tion Union (ITU) called on the DCM to report on his visitrc to 110SI~OW during the ibulleek of December 9 1968bull

1 i

I Mr HEdJs~~e~~ wts invited ltts an oifjcial of the ITU3 to attend the Popov I Socieiy mltgtf~inr in Moscow middotIt is understood that the Society has a i members~ of some 150 000 Soviet scientists and engineers and the I mceUn1 vms gt=ell 1ttended by its members as well as representatives ofl many Easte rn European countries

What lfr He rbstreit reported upon was not the meetingy however but middot the prirate luncheon session he had at the invitati~l2f-r~1j~IX~P -Y ~ I~2~ wlo the DcpJrtment will recally was a mem5erof the ITUs Interna tional Frequency Registration Boa-d (IFRB) from January 1965 until he was

lt) declarEd pers oi1na non grata by the Swiss Government on February 23 1967

(C

-cu

I Mr He rhstreit had the distinct impression that the real reason he was 0

~ u_ invfted to Moscow was for the purpose of having the conversation with

J gtshyJ a middot 1 P2trov lho presently is_n Adviser to the Minister of Communications 0

w l Mr He rbs treit added tl1at he was reasonably certain that Petrov as sumed J l that a report on their meeting would be made available to the US Governshy

ment middot _

L

COlRDENTIAL FOR D EP T US 0E 0 -ltLY roF_ bull bull DS- 32 3 - Cf3 lo D11r

J

lif0 --

--

----=~

-_o

middot _2__

lt

~

a(

CLUa ( middotc middot

~li----~--------------~-~on~rr~~~~~~~c~~u~oc~Ap~p~ro~~r~db~y--~------------- ~ - ~1--middot( L 17 3D~- rt Ci ~middot(a 2i t J 1 1c 6

~------middot--middot--middot middotmiddot --- -~~

j DEP ARTYi ENT OF fTATE

(o middot I ~~ 1middot~- -------1middot~ ~middotmiddot

middot 1 f_ fnl1 ff~ middot[sectc~ ~middot ~4 r TEL--- J rt J 1

cS l ~1s~l c1 middot 1 ~ 1 middot~11 I - ~JcJ t- i o il -l ~-LJ --middot liJ

tz2J )JJ~j

n 1 FOR RIA USE ONL Y

--- middot---- - middotmiddot -middot---- - ~~ c~ J n 1 r - 1

r t_j ~g CONIDENTIAL - ~-middotJ--1 -----shy

middot ampC_f_l_v1_ c-

-f-i

---cu I f

~-ll 110 HANOI-INQ INOICAT O A --i

I To DEPARTMENT OF STATE middot E P 10

- +- 5

~+= f

I oo jfl

j ~ middot

i cL_l FROM U S Mission GENEVA DATEDecember 22 1968

NT __t~X--LJ susJEcT Possible Soviet Interest in Intelsat

I REF

n~J ~~~ N~v l 2__ 1f

__ ~)0 d 1middotIr Jad~ Herbs treit aU S citizen who is presently Chairman of the middot-Ju A l Intern-1tioral R1dio Consultative Committee (CCIR) of the International

c l middot 3 Teleco nmuniclt~tion Union (ITU) called on the DCM to report on his visitrc to 110SI~OW during the ibulleek of December 9 1968bull

1 i

I Mr HEdJs~~e~~ wts invited ltts an oifjcial of the ITU3 to attend the Popov I Socieiy mltgtf~inr in Moscow middotIt is understood that the Society has a i members~ of some 150 000 Soviet scientists and engineers and the I mceUn1 vms gt=ell 1ttended by its members as well as representatives ofl many Easte rn European countries

What lfr He rbstreit reported upon was not the meetingy however but middot the prirate luncheon session he had at the invitati~l2f-r~1j~IX~P -Y ~ I~2~ wlo the DcpJrtment will recally was a mem5erof the ITUs Interna tional Frequency Registration Boa-d (IFRB) from January 1965 until he was

lt) declarEd pers oi1na non grata by the Swiss Government on February 23 1967

(C

-cu

I Mr He rhstreit had the distinct impression that the real reason he was 0

~ u_ invfted to Moscow was for the purpose of having the conversation with

J gtshyJ a middot 1 P2trov lho presently is_n Adviser to the Minister of Communications 0

w l Mr He rbs treit added tl1at he was reasonably certain that Petrov as sumed J l that a report on their meeting would be made available to the US Governshy

ment middot _

L

COlRDENTIAL FOR D EP T US 0E 0 -ltLY roF_ bull bull DS- 32 3 - Cf3 lo D11r

J

lif0 --

--

----=~

-_o

middot _2__

lt

~

a(

CLUa ( middotc middot

~li----~--------------~-~on~rr~~~~~~~c~~u~oc~Ap~p~ro~~r~db~y--~------------- ~ - ~1--middot( L 17 3D~- rt Ci ~middot(a 2i t J 1 1c 6

p-Jge 2 GOilIDEHTIAL A- ct 5 from Geneva

et rov ngtctde a st-o i~ g pe r s onal _)itch for USSR participation as obs erver ~n middotdJ e fo1~thcom ii1G I ~1tels~ t ~-e_eting in February concerning which m eeting

JBerostre1t foura Pc rrov IUl ty Informed There was a free exchange of thoughts about poss ible uSSR interest and participation in Intelsat during which the foLowirg eme rgcd

A Petrov

advocates the

establishment of one intemiddotrnational organization and one system- middotmiddotIntelsat

B Soviets are genuinely interested in joiiling Jntelsat provided certain prior conditions are met es_t)ecially that the one-man one-vote concept is maintaiiltCct On tllis point Herhstreit pointed out the infeasibility of US acceptance with Petrov responding that certain areas might be excepted

---------- ----- middot--

-~rorn~ttw conc~EL~I1c_iJhat the Soviet position was negotiable Petrov J indic2ted t hai he und2rstoodthaffin-aricial inattets were excludable but that 1poss ibly in the policy decision field a s well as in such matters as the election

of the Board Chairman the one~ man one- vote concept could be agreed upon

Mr Hcrbstrltit concluclcd from this discussion that the Soviets are truly middotmiddot inertbulls tcd in participlting in Intelsat otherwise this matter would not have been raised Ire fEmiddotgts that Petrov accurately reflects the attitude of the Ministry of Coirmunications Mr Herbstreit believes that in these circumshystnccs the tim e is now o~portu1e to explore the matter further assuming ou- policy interests are to do so which Herbstreit feels strongly should b~ the case He went on to state his conviction that the Soviets would not participate in official djscussions on the matter unless a specific agenda

outlining the area cf discussion was agreed upon in advance

Since the Mission has not received all the traific regarding Intelsat the foregoing mar be of little value Nevertheless the report is submitted for whatever interest it may merit and the Mission stands ready to pursue the matter further should the Department so desire

middot ~

7 ~ TUBBY(

CONFIDENTIAL