COURSE COUNSELING

Getting it right…Not giving it a go.

And all the reasons why!

GET IT RIGHT• The Problems with “giving it a go”– Every change puts a student more at risk– Every time a student fails it affects their state of mind,

increases anxiety– Space in courses they may wish to change into– The new WACE requirements

PARENTS AS PARTNERS• Believe it or not… Research shows, you are the one the

students listen to…• Things have changed• How are prerequisites developed – data, what is available to

the counselling team? • Saying the student will work harder almost never works

WHY PARENTS OF YEAR 9 & 10?• Feedback from last year…• Middle of Year 10 can be too late• By being informed now you can better support your child

through the process

THIS SESSION COVERS…• The new WACE

• The counselling process

• Pathways available

• Course selection

• Q&A

WHAT TYPES OF COURSES?• ATAR courses – for students who are aiming to go to

university and will need to sit an external exam which will get them an ATAR.

• General courses – for students aiming to enter further training or the workforce straight from school. These are not examined.

• VET Courses – a requirement for all students unless they get an ATAR over 55. Risk management.

• Q&A

WHAT IS THE WACE?• The Western Australian Certificate of Education

• It has gotten much harder for this group of students and beyond

• There is a recognition that not all students will be able to achieve WACE (although we will try our absolute best for them to do so).

WACE REQUIREMENTS• Literacy and Numeracy Requirement (OLNA)• Students will already know what Category they have

achieved• Another opportunity in Semester 2

WACE REQUIREMENTS• Achievement Standard• Complete a minimum of 4 ATAR courses in Year 12 or• Complete a Certificate II or higher

• So almost all students will be required to enrol in a Certificate II course

WACE REQUIREMENTS• Complete two English Units in Year 11 and two English units in

Year 12• English General• English ATAR• English as an Additional Language or Dialect (EALD) ATAR

WACE REQUIREMENTS• Complete a pair of units in Year 12 from List A (Humanities)

and List B (Sciences)

• Complete at least 20 units including a minimum of 10 units in Year 12

• Achieve a minimum of 14 C grades in Year 11 and 12 including at least 6 C grades in Year 12

ENGLISHGeneral Pathway Description Year 11 Year 12

Typical University oriented pathway English ATAR Units 1&2

EALD ATAR Units 1&2 English ATAR Units 3&4EALD ATAR Units 3&4

Typical pathway to further training and/or employment English General Units

1&2 English General Units

3&4

MATHEMATICSGeneral Pathway Description Year 11 Year 12

Double Maths for Uni entry to specialist courses such as Engineering…

Math Methods ATAR 1&2 &

Math Specialist ATAR 1&2

Math Methods ATAR 3&4 & Math Specialist ATAR 3&4

Single Maths for Uni entry to courses where further Maths is likely to be needed.

Math Methods ATAR 1&2 or

Math Applications ATAR 1&2

Math Methods ATAR 3&4 or

Math Applications ATAR 3&4

Single Maths for students to develop general Maths skills for further training / employment Math Essentials General 1&2 Math Essentials General 3&4

ALL OTHER COURSESGeneral Pathway Description

Year 11 Year 12

Typical University oriented pathway ATAR Units 1&2 ATAR Units 3&4

Typical pathway to further training and/or employment General Units 1&2 General Units 3&4

WHAT YOU WILL RECEIVE• Course Handbook (on disc)

• Selection Grid

• Course Selection Form

• An appointment to a counselling interview

ATAR Courses General Courses

1A1ENG A1ELD G1ENG

ATAR English ATAR EALD General English

2A1MAA A1MAM G1MAE

ATAR Maths Lower Level

ATAR Maths Higher Level

General Maths

3A1GEO A1AIT A1HBS G1DESP G1FST G1BCN

ATAR Geography

ATAR Applied IT

ATAR Human Biology

General Photography

Cert II Media

General Food Sc

General Construction

4A1PHY A1BME A1VAR A1MUS G1PES G1DAN G1VAR G1HES

ATAR Chemistry

ATAR Business Management ATAR Visual Art ATAR Music General PE

StudiesGeneral Dance

General Visual Art

General Health Studies

5

A1MAS G1CAE CIIGOLF CIIHOCK CIIMUS CIIOED CIIENG CIIIT

ATAR Maths Specialist

General Careers

Cert II Leadership

GolfCert II

Coaching

HockeyCert II

Coaching

MusicCert II Music

Outdoor EdCert II Sport

& Rec (Outdoor)

EngineeringCert II

Engineering

Information Technology

Cert II IT

6

A1PES A1CHE A1HIM G1PES G1MDT G1ISC G1DRA

ATAR PE Studies ATAR Physics ATAR History General PE

Studies

Furniture DesignCert II

Furnishings

General Integrated

Science

General Drama

PREREQUISITES FOR SCHOOL• Where do they come from?

• What happens to students that do not meet prerequisites?

• This year’s experience…

• But I need it for the course I want to do at Uni!

PREREQUISITES FOR UNI• Some university courses have defined prerequisites• IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO JUST DO THE SUBJECT. YOU MUST BE

SUCCESSFUL.• A final scaled mark of at least 50 may be required for some

courses• Some university courses may also require specific units• For more information, go to TISC website www.tisc.edu.au

TO GET INTO UNI• Meet English Language Competency (different for WACE)

• Get a ranking (ATAR) high enough

• Meet any prerequisites

ATAR• Ranking

• A four subject average of…• 75 typically gives an ATAR of around 95• 63 typically gives an ATAR of around 80• 58 typically gives an ATAR of around 70

• Different every year after scaling and moderation and is only an indication

UNI ALTERNATIVE ENTRYCurtin University• Enabling course in Science, Engineering

and Health• The Aboriginal Bridging Course• The Indigenous Tertiary Enabling

Course• UniReady Enabling Program

Edith Cowan University• University Preparation Course• Portfolio Entry

UWA• UWay• Broadway• Fairway• ATSI Pathways

Murdoch University• TOP - Tertiary Options

• OnTrack

• Access South West

STATE TRAINING PROVIDERS• Was known as TAFE

• All applicants must meet entry requirements

• Courses are split into competitive and non competitive for entry purposes

• Some courses are competitive and selection criteria need to be meet

• Check the website for latest details: http://www.trainingwa.wa.gov.au

VET in SCHOOLS• Why a Certificate II in high school?

• Involves the training and demonstration of competencies by the student

• May include Workplace Learning (WL) and integrated units of competency

• VET credit transfer counts towards WACE

• Partnership arrangements with Registered Training Organisations (RTO)

CERTIFICATE II ENGINEERING• Held at the Trade Training Centre at Kent St SHS

• Is a pathway for students wishing to enter Engineering Technical Pathways

• Students are often confused about what an Engineer does

• Minimum Mathematics requirements

• Excellent grounding for students wishing to enter any trade

WORK PLACE LEARNING• Focuses on employability skills

• Different workplaces experienced

• Helps to inform decisions about transition from school to work, training, further education and community participation

• Will be embedded as a choice in Career and Enterprise General

WHAT ABOUT APPRENTICESHIPS?• Are available for Year 11 and 12 students but not likely

• Transition from high school to work

• Set a goal and work towards developing the skills and prerequisites to be eligible or competitive for apprenticeships as they arise

http://www.dtwd.wa.gov.au/employeesandstudents/apprenticentre/Pages/default.aspx

Q&A