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The writer is pastor, Woodlawn Baptist Church.
I trust "Shootings disturb reso lute abortion foes" Jays to rest any idea that all abortion opponents favor the vigilante "justice" of the murders in Pensacola. I thank Ken Garfield for giving us the opportu nity to be heard.
One thing I would add: The article leaves the impression our speaker, Tina Huffman, might have supported these shootings. While she is adamant in her opposition to abortion, she equally denounces those who would take life in the name of the unborn. In her words from our pulpit, such people "have murder in their hearts."
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Minister' to step down after Hooters remarks' Pastor plans to leave Woodlawn Baptist
By KEN GARflELD Religion Editor
A Southern Baptist pastor an nounced plans to step down from his Charlotte church, 2lh weeks after he was quoted in The Ob server while having lunch at Hoot ers.
The Rev. James Pose~ of 1,100- member °Woodlawn Baptist Church said his resignation wasn't
in direct response to his eating at the South Boulevard home of scantily clad waitresses. But he said the matter came up before church leaders last Thursday, a meeting that led to his announce ment he'll leave by June 30.
Posey was on his way to visit a shut-in on Nov. 15 when he de cided to stop in Hooters for lunch. An Observer reporter was there interviewing patrons about a fed eral directive that the restaurant hire male waiters.
"The guy was interviewing," said Posey. "He interviewed me
and I got on the front page. I was embarrassed all that happened."
"The timing did fall into play with that," said Posey, 42, an Ala bama native who has been at Woodlawn on Nations Crossing Road since 1990. "No one at the church has said to me, 'Because of this you're not fit to be a pastor.' Everyone at the church who has talked to me has been sweet-tem pered and kind and understanding. That's not to say it didn't offend some people."
Posey told the congregation Sunday he's been looking for an-
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other pulpit for a while, frustrated over the lack of growth at Wood lawn. Some search committees from other churches have visited Woodlawn to hear Posey preach.
The church, part of a denom ination known for its socially con servative ethic, averages about 250 for Sunday-morning worship.
''We peaked out about three · years ago," said Posey. "It's been going down since then. I felt like they needed a change in leader ship, and I needed one, too."
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Baptist pastor in Charlotte says he \ will step down from his post after he ~ was quoted in a newspaper interview t1' while having lunch at a Hooters
restaurant. The Rev. James Posey, pastor of Woodlawn Baptist Church, -said his resignation wasn't related to his visit to the restaurant. The minis ter said he was on the way to visit a shut-in when he decided to stop at Hooters for lunch. A reporter was there interviewing patrons about a federal directive that the restaurant chain hire male waiters. Posey told his congregation Sunday that he's ac tually been looking for another pulpit for some time.
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SCOTT FOWLER Guest column
We forget: Preachers are human S hould a preacher be a saint? Can pastors make mis
takes? And does anyone go into Hoot
ers just for the chicken wings? Those are the questions raised
by the saga of the Rev. James Po s~ He ate lunch at the Hooters o~outh Boulevard on Nov. 15, and on Sunday announced his resignation as pastor of Char lotte's Woodlawn Baptist Church. Church leaders are bemoaning
the fuss and explaining them selves. "I can't say that going to Hooters is totally unacceptable behavior," says Sam Treadaway, the chairman of the church's board of deacons. "It's not illegal. I will say it was a lapse in good judgment."
Posey was thinking about leav ing already. But his departure was undeniably hastened by his visit to Hooters - the restaurant chain famous for its wink-wink name and barely-dressed waitresses. Posey was quoted in an Ob
server story on Nov. 16 about the federal directive that Hooters must hire male waiters. He was against it, saying that "the girls are basically what Hooters is about." Mistake? Yes. Mistake worth a "mutual resig
nation?" Noway. Now the Hooters/preacher inci
dent has caused an old theologi cal debate to rise like Lazarus. To what standards of behavior
do Southern Baptists hold their preachers? And are they fair?
"I had some people complain one time because I had been play ing golf and softball," says the Rev. Grady Faulk of Stough Me morial Baptist in Pineville. "They thought the preacher should study the Bible all the time, say 'thee' and 'thou' and only speak in a very deep voice." Faulk didn't stop playing. "In fact, my game improved,"
he says. "I thought about the main guy (who complained) the next time I played and hit the day lights out of the ball." Complaining about golf and
softball playing is ridiculous. And although I don't go to ei
ther Hooters or Southern Baptist churches myself, I think that Po sey should be able to go to Hoot ers whenever he wants.
So where do you draw a line? For Southern Baptist churches,
anywhere they wish. The ultimate authority for Southern Baptists are the local churches, which make their own rules. So what if you saw your wor
ship leader at the sexually explicit movie "Showgirls"? Or how about downing his sec
ond beer at a Christmas party? Or maybe stopped on the side
of the road, getting a ticket? One prominent local Southern
Baptist preacher who didn't want to be quoted says that "75 to 80 percent" of Mecklenburg South ern Baptist congregations would either advise a preacher who was seen at Hooters to seek counsel-
. ing or resign. Says the Rev. John Walsh, the
senior minister at Myers Park Baptist: "We aren't permitted to show our humanity. I'm con vinced that pastors aren't able to make the human errors that ev eryone else makes. And in some ways, that is an impossible bur den." But many Southern Baptists
say that the burden is bearable. "When a Christian accepts the
responsibility of leadership, that person should accept a higher code of ethics themselves," says Ron Pinkerton, the director of Baptist Metrolina Ministries. Metrolina Ministries is an orga
nization that supports and con sults with the approximately 100 Southern Baptist churches and · missions in Mecklenburg County. Those 100 churches boast a total of around 45,000 members, Pin kerton says - easily more than any other local denomination. There are 15.4 million South
ern Baptists nationwide, ranking the denomination second to Ro man Catholicism in membership.
I hope Posey finds a few hun dred of those 15.4 million. I hope he gets to lead them. And I hope - for his sake -
that a few of them have been to Hooters, too.