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Doctor Ing. en Tribologia Manuel Rojas NadalEmail:tribologomrojas@yahoo.com.mxEmail:tribologmrojas@gmail.comEmail:manuel_rojas_nadal@hotmail.com
Mi Grupo Emagister "Tribologia y desgaste motores Diesel"http://grupos.emagister.com/tribologia_y_desgaste_de_motores_diesel/1506
Mi Biblioteca Web:http://tribologomrojas.spaces.live.com/
MI pagina en SCRIBD:http://www.scribd.com/manuelrojasnadal
Limite Condenatorio
FECHA Dias3/17/20103/24/2010 7.00 7.00 84.00 84.003/27/2010 3.00 10.00 120.00 204.003/28/2010 1.00 11.00 132.00 336.003/31/2010 3.00 14.00 168.00 504.004/2/2010 2.00 16.00 192.00 696.00
4/28/2010 26.00 42.00 504.00 1200.005/5/2010 7.00 49.00 588.00 1788.005/8/2010 3.00 52.00 624.00 2412.00
Total 52.00 2412.00
Dias Acumulados
Horas sobre 12/dia
Horas acumuladas
0.000
0.020
0.040
0.060
0.080
0.100
0.120
0.140
0.160
0.140
0.066
0.058
0.041
0.031
0.0170.022 0.022
Velocidad Desgaste ppm/hrs
VD
pp
m/h
rs
DATOS ESTIMADOS POR MANUELFECHA 3/17/2010 3/24/2010 3/27/2010 3/28/2010Dias 7 3 1Dias Acumulados 7 10 11Horas sobre 12/dia 84 120 132Horas acumuladas 84 204 336
FECHA 3/17/2010 3/24/2010 3/27/2010 3/28/2010 Fe 8.20 5.70 4.60 4.60 Pb 1.60 1.20 1.30 1.20
Al 1.10 1.40 1.00 0.70 Cu 0.90 3.00 0.50 0.60 Cr 0.70 0.50 0.50 0.60 Sn 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
12.5 11.8 7.9 7.7
0.140 0.066 0.058
7.1 15.2 17.1
LC 30 15FECHA Fe LC Pb LC3/17/2010 8.20 30.00 1.60 15.003/24/2010 5.70 30.00 1.20 15.00
Sub-Total Metales Desgaste
Velocidad Desgaste ppm/hrs
Velocidad Desgaste hrs/ppm
0.000
0.020
0.040
0.060
0.080
0.100
0.120
0.140
0.160
0.140
0.066
0.058
0.041
0.031
0.0170.022 0.022
Velocidad Desgaste ppm/hrs
VD
pp
m/h
rs
3/27/2010 4.60 30.00 1.30 15.003/28/2010 4.60 30.00 1.20 15.003/31/2010 4.80 30.00 0.30 15.004/2/2010 3.20 30.00 1.20 15.00
4/28/2010 3.50 30.00 1.40 15.005/5/2010 7.70 30.00 1.70 15.005/8/2010 8.80 30.00 1.70 15.00
Total 65.00 14.40
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
2.00
4.00
6.00
8.00
10.00
12.00
14.00
16.00
18.00
20.00
22.00
24.00
26.00
28.00
30.00
32.00
30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00
8.20
5.704.60 4.80
3.20 3.50
7.708.80
Contenido de Fe ppm
Fe LC
Fe
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.601.20 1.30
0.30
1.20 1.401.70 1.70
Contenido de Pb ppm
Pb
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.601.20 1.30
0.30
1.20 1.401.70 1.70
Contenido de Pb ppm
Pb
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.101.40
1.00 1.20 1.00
1.90
1.10 1.20
Contenido de AL ppm
AL
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.101.40
1.00 1.20 1.00
1.90
1.10 1.20
Contenido de AL ppm
AL
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
17.00
18.00
19.00
20.00
21.00
20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00
0.90
3.00
0.50 0.40 0.30
1.201.90 1.80
Contenido de Cu ppm
Cu
pp
m
Diagnostico:.-1 Aceite Motor en muy buenas condiciones fisico-quimicas.-2 Indice de Desgaste = 11.16 %.-3 Vida Util Remanente = 88.83 %
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
17.00
18.00
19.00
20.00
21.00
20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00
0.90
3.00
0.50 0.40 0.30
1.201.90 1.80
Contenido de Cu ppm
Cu
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
17.00
18.00
19.00
20.00
21.00
20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00
0.90
3.00
0.50 0.40 0.30
1.201.90 1.80
Contenido de Cr ppmC
r p
pm
.-4 Chequear Analisis Punto Inflamacion siempre da 216 °C
http://grupos.emagister.com/tribologia_y_desgaste_de_motores_diesel/1506
30 15 12 20 20 15 112
Fe Al Cr Cu Sn Pb 8.20 1.10 0.70 0.90 0. 00 1.60 12.505.70 1.40 0.50 3.00 0. 00 1.20 11.80 0.1404.60 1.00 0.50 0.50 0. 00 1.30 7.90 0.0664.60 0.70 0.60 0.60 0. 00 1.20 7.70 0.0584.80 1.20 0.20 0.40 0. 00 0.30 6.90 0.0413.20 1.00 0.20 0.30 0. 00 1.20 5.90 0.0313.50 1.90 0.50 1.20 0. 00 1.40 8.50 0.0177.70 1.10 0.70 1.90 0. 00 1.70 13.10 0.0228.80 1.20 0.40 1.80 0. 00 1.70 13.90 0.022
51.10 10.60 4.30 10.60 0.00 11.60 88.20 0.050
Sub-Total Metales
Desgaste ppm
Velocidad Desgaste ppm/hrs
0.000
0.020
0.040
0.060
0.080
0.100
0.120
0.140
0.160
0.140
0.066
0.058
0.041
0.031
0.0170.022 0.022
Velocidad Desgaste ppm/hrs
VD
pp
m/h
rs
3/31/2010 4/2/2010 4/28/2010 5/5/2010 5/8/2010 Total3 2 26 7 3 52
14 16 42 49 52168 192 504 588 624 0504 696 1200 1788 2412 2412
3/31/2010 4/2/2010 4/28/2010 5/5/2010 5/8/2010 Total4.80 3.20 3.50 7.70 8.80 51.100.30 1.20 1.40 1.70 1.70 11.60
1.20 1.00 1.90 1.10 1.20 10.600.40 0.30 1.20 1.90 1.80 10.60o.20 0.20 0.50 0.70 0.40 4.100.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
6.7 5.9 8.5 13.1 13.9 88
0.040 0.031 0.017 0.022 0.022 0.050
25.1 32.5 59.3 44.9 44.9 30.8
15 20 12 20 Al LC Cu LC Cr LC Sn LC1.10 15.00 0.90 20.00 0.70 12.00 0.00 20.001.40 15.00 3.00 20.00 0.50 12.00 0.00 20.00
0.000
0.020
0.040
0.060
0.080
0.100
0.120
0.140
0.160
0.140
0.066
0.058
0.041
0.031
0.0170.022 0.022
Velocidad Desgaste ppm/hrs
VD
pp
m/h
rs
1.00 15.00 0.50 20.00 0.50 12.00 0.00 20.000.70 15.00 0.60 20.00 0.60 12.00 0.00 20.001.20 15.00 0.40 20.00 0.20 12.00 0.00 20.001.00 15.00 0.30 20.00 0.20 12.00 0.00 20.001.90 15.00 1.20 20.00 0.50 12.00 0.00 20.001.10 15.00 1.90 20.00 0.70 12.00 0.00 20.001.20 15.00 1.80 20.00 0.40 12.00 0.00 20.00
13.10 14.50 5.50 0.00
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
2.00
4.00
6.00
8.00
10.00
12.00
14.00
16.00
18.00
20.00
22.00
24.00
26.00
28.00
30.00
32.00
30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00
8.20
5.704.60 4.80
3.20 3.50
7.708.80
Contenido de Fe ppm
Fe LC
Fe
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.601.20 1.30
0.30
1.20 1.401.70 1.70
Contenido de Pb ppm
Pb
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.601.20 1.30
0.30
1.20 1.401.70 1.70
Contenido de Pb ppm
Pb
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.101.40
1.00 1.20 1.00
1.90
1.10 1.20
Contenido de AL ppm
AL
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.101.40
1.00 1.20 1.00
1.90
1.10 1.20
Contenido de AL ppm
AL
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
17.00
18.00
19.00
20.00
21.00
20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00
0.90
3.00
0.50 0.40 0.30
1.201.90 1.80
Contenido de Cu ppm
Cu
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
17.00
18.00
19.00
20.00
21.00
20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00
0.90
3.00
0.50 0.40 0.30
1.201.90 1.80
Contenido de Cu ppm
Cu
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
17.00
18.00
19.00
20.00
21.00
20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00
0.90
3.00
0.50 0.40 0.30
1.201.90 1.80
Contenido de Cr ppm
Cr
pp
m
13 10 23
Si Na FLASH °C4.70 1.90 6.60 216.00 88.00 2.456.50 2.30 8.80 216.00 88.00 2.455.30 1.70 7.00 216.00 91.10 2.374.50 1.90 6.40 216.00 92.70 2.336.00 2.10 8.10 216.00 91.00 2.375.30 2.40 7.70 216.00 89.40 2.426.40 3.60 10.00 216.00 89.00 2.435.60 3.20 8.80 216.00 76.00 2.845.20 2.70 7.90 210.00 78.00 2.69
49.50 21.80 71.30 215.33 87.02 2.47
FLASH °C216 92.7216 91.1216 91.0216 89.4216 89.0216 88.0216 88.0210 78.0216 76.0
Contaminantes ppm
VISC SSU
Coeficiente Dilusion
VISC SSU
0.000
0.020
0.040
0.060
0.080
0.100
0.120
0.140
0.160
0.140
0.066
0.058
0.041
0.031
0.0170.022 0.022
Velocidad Desgaste ppm/hrs
VD
pp
m/h
rs
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 970
80
90
100
110
120
130
140
150
160
170
180
190
200
210
220
230
216 216 216 216 216 216 216
210
216
92.7 91.1 91.0 89.4 89.0 88.0 88.0
78.0 76.0
FLASH °C Linear ( FLASH °C) VISC SSU Linear ( VISC SSU)
1-Chequear el Punto de Inflamacion que siempre esta dando 216 °C y la viscosidad va decreciendo de 92.7 SSU a 76.0 SSU…esto es contradictorio.
112Sub-Total LC Total I.D % V-U.R.%
12.50 112.00 11.16 88.8411.80 112.00 10.54 89.46
Total Metales
ppm
Total Metales LC
ppm
Indice Desgaste
%VidaUtil
Remanente %
0.000
0.020
0.040
0.060
0.080
0.100
0.120
0.140
0.160
0.140
0.066
0.058
0.041
0.031
0.0170.022 0.022
Velocidad Desgaste ppm/hrs
VD
pp
m/h
rs
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 970
80
90
100
110
120
130
140
150
160
170
180
190
200
210
220
230
216 216 216 216 216 216 216
210
216
92.7 91.1 91.0 89.4 89.0 88.0 88.0
78.0 76.0
FLASH °C Linear ( FLASH °C) VISC SSU Linear ( VISC SSU)
1-Chequear el Punto de Inflamacion que siempre esta dando 216 °C y la viscosidad va decreciendo de 92.7 SSU a 76.0 SSU…esto es contradictorio.
7.90 112.00 7.05 92.957.70 112.00 6.87 93.136.90 112.00 6.16 93.845.90 112.00 5.27 94.738.50 112.00 7.59 92.41
13.10 112.00 11.70 88.3013.90 112.00 12.41 87.59
112.50 1008.00 11.16 88.84
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
2.00
4.00
6.00
8.00
10.00
12.00
14.00
16.00
18.00
20.00
22.00
24.00
26.00
28.00
30.00
32.00
30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00 30.00
8.20
5.704.60 4.80
3.20 3.50
7.708.80
Contenido de Fe ppm
Fe LC
Fe
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.601.20 1.30
0.30
1.20 1.401.70 1.70
Contenido de Pb ppm
Pb
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.601.20 1.30
0.30
1.20 1.401.70 1.70
Contenido de Pb ppm
Pb
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.101.40
1.00 1.20 1.00
1.90
1.10 1.20
Contenido de AL ppm
AL
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00 15.00
1.101.40
1.00 1.20 1.00
1.90
1.10 1.20
Contenido de AL ppm
AL
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
17.00
18.00
19.00
20.00
21.00
20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00
0.90
3.00
0.50 0.40 0.30
1.201.90 1.80
Contenido de Cu ppm
Cu
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
17.00
18.00
19.00
20.00
21.00
20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00
0.90
3.00
0.50 0.40 0.30
1.201.90 1.80
Contenido de Cu ppm
Cu
pp
m
3/13/2010 3/23/2010 4/2/2010 4/12/2010 4/22/2010 5/2/2010 5/12/20100.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
10.00
11.00
12.00
13.00
14.00
15.00
16.00
17.00
18.00
19.00
20.00
21.00
20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00 20.00
0.90
3.00
0.50 0.40 0.30
1.201.90 1.80
Contenido de Cr ppm
Cr
pp
m
5.0
Zn P TBN 1,603 1,098 2,701 9.49 4.491,507 1,136 2,643 10.56 5.561,564 1,125 2,689 9.91 4.911,550 938 2,488 10.49 5.491,565 1,144 2,7091,504 1,153 2,657 11.02 6.021,576 1,215 2,791 10.91 5.911,607 1,233 2,840 9.18 4.181,489 1,227 2,716 10.79 5.791,552 10,269 11,821 10.29 5.29
Total Aditivos ppm
TBN Remanente
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 970
80
90
100
110
120
130
140
150
160
170
180
190
200
210
220
230
216 216 216 216 216 216 216
210
216
92.7 91.1 91.0 89.4 89.0 88.0 88.0
78.0 76.0
FLASH °C Linear ( FLASH °C) VISC SSU Linear ( VISC SSU)
1-Chequear el Punto de Inflamacion que siempre esta dando 216 °C y la viscosidad va decreciendo de 92.7 SSU a 76.0 SSU…esto es contradictorio.
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78.0 76.0
FLASH °C Linear ( FLASH °C) VISC SSU Linear ( VISC SSU)
1-Chequear el Punto de Inflamacion que siempre esta dando 216 °C y la viscosidad va decreciendo de 92.7 SSU a 76.0 SSU…esto es contradictorio.
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