alan mulally marshall goldsmith interview session record 26-05 … · 2015-05-28 ·...
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Ben: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you very much for joining us for the very first session of the WBECS 2015 Full Summit Session, and we have an incredible session to kick off this year’s summit. Today we have, joining us, Alan Mullaly, together with Marshall Goldsmith. We’ll be having a super conversation for you to listen in. Alan is an American engineer, business executive, and former president and chief executive officer of the Ford Motor Company. He retired from Ford Motor Company on July 1st, 2014. Ford had been struggling during the late 2000’s recession, and it returned to profitability under Mullaly, and was the only American major car manufacturer to avoid the bailout fund provided by the government. Mullaly’s achievements at Ford are chronicled in the book An American Icon: Alan Mullaly and the Fight to Save Ford Motor Company, by Bryce G. Hoffman, published in 2012. On the 15th of July, 2014, he was appointed to the Google board of directors. And joining Alan, we have Dr. Marshall Goldsmith. Marshall has been recognized as one of the top 10 most influential business thinkers in the world, and the top-‐ranked executive coach, at the biannual Thinkers50 Awards Ceremony in London. Marshall is the author or editor of 35 books, which have sold well over 2 million copies and been translated into 30 languages. He has a host of awards, which you can find on his Wikipedia. And his new book, Triggers, will be published on the 19th of May, 2015. He is one of a select few executive advisors who has been asked to work with over 150 major CEOs and their management teams. Now, I don’t want to take up any more time, so I’m going to hand it straight over to Dr. Marshall Goldsmith. Over to you, Marshall. Marshall: Thank you so much, Ben. And it’s my honor to be here today, and I really want to thank Alan. Alan’s mission in life is really to make a positive difference in the world, and both of us feel very honored to be able to talk to literally thousands of coaches, because you people are trying to help all kinds of other people, and if we can help you just a little bit, that’s fantastic. I really want to thank Alan for taking his valuable time to really try to help the coaches listening in on this call. My brief introduction of Alan is that I met Alan when he was at Boeing. In theory, I was supposed to be his coach, but in practice I’ve learned about maybe 10 or 20 times as much from him as he ever learned from me. He has been such an inspiration to me in my life, and has made a huge difference for my coaching. I feel I am so much better of a coach, just because I’ve known him and all the great things he’s taught me about working with great people and making it about the client, not yourself. A couple of other points about Alan before we begin—he was ranked in Fortune magazine last year as the #3 greatest leader in the world. He was defeated by the Pope and Angela Merkel, but #3 in the world is not bad. And he has also been ranked as CEO of the Year in the United States. And one other thing I think is even more impressive—when he left Ford, he had a 97% approval rating as the CEO of a unionized company, which, as you know—in any union company, the CEO is often not loved. To get a 97% approval rating is just unbelievable.
I’ve met many leaders in my life, and I have to say, I have never met—well, with one exception. Frances Hesselbein, my good friend, and Alan are the two I always put up as just the greatest leaders I’ve ever met. So, Alan, thank you very much for joining us. Alan: You’re welcome. Marshall: Now, Alan, let’s begin. When you went to Ford, one of the first things you did is really focus on leadership behavior and team behavior. You put together a wonderful business plan and review process. Give us a little of your history first. Talk about your life at Boeing, your history, how you got to Ford, and then we’ll talk about some of the great things you did in terms of changing leadership behavior and the business plan and review process. So, start from Boeing days. Alan: Well, sure. I’d be glad to share these experiences. I grew up in the Midwest of the United States, and I earned my Master’s and Bachelor’s degree in Aeronautical and Astronautical Engineering at the University of Kansas, and then, a little later on, my Master’s in Business from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. My thesis advisor in college was the previous head of aerodynamics for the Boeing company that’s headquartered in Seattle, Washington, the largest commercial airplane company in the world. And we had some contract work with them. He took me to Seattle. I had a chance to meet all these fabulous, talented engineers that create the finest airplanes in the world to get people together around the world, and I knew I found my love in Boeing. I had a chance to serve on the design team of every Boeing airplane, the 707, 727, 737, 747—I was the leader for the cockpit and the flight management systems on the 757 and the 767 airplanes, and then I was the chief engineer, and the director of engineering, and then the program manager, for the 777 airplane. And then, I was on the launch team for the 787. And so, each airplane had a point of view about the future. It was all about safe and efficient transportation. These airplanes have nearly 4 million parts. They’re one of the most sophisticated vehicles in the world. They fly people around the world safely and efficiently. And at the peak, when you’re designing a new airplane, you have hundreds of thousands, and literally millions, of people, working on the design of these fabulous airplanes. So, it’s very important that everybody knows what the plan is for the plane. They know what the strategy is. They know the schedule. And then, it’s also really important that, as you progress on the airplane designs, everybody knows how it’s going, what’s the status against the plan, or the areas that need special attention. And then, of course, that needs to be based on transparency and honesty and clear characterization of what the status is, but also on the attitude of everybody on the team helping each other confront the issues and work through the issues and create these fantastic products. So, I was then asked, over time, to be the CEO of Boeing, and I applied the same principles, the same management system, to my honor to serve as a CEO. And that took me up to 8 years ago, when I got a call from Bill Ford of the Ford Motor Company, and he asked me to come to Ford and join him and transform Ford into a viable, profitably-‐growing global corporation again.
Marshall: You know, you told a story once of when you were a young manager, which I thought was a fantastic example of—I think it would be great for the coaches—about listening to the inner voice of yourself. Can you talk about the bad experience you have, and then the good that came out of it, the manager that helped you? 10:14 Alan: Well, it seemed kind of like a bad experience at the time, but it turned out to be one of the most beneficial, enlightening experiences of my life. So, a large corporation, Boeing—I wanted to be the best engineer I could be. I loved being on the team. I loved contributing and serving. And then, the management of Boeing asked me to be a supervisor. And so, I asked them what a supervisor did, and they told me. And so, I asked them, “Well, why did you want me to do that?” And they said, “Well, you like people, and you like helping others, and so we’re going to put you in charge of some employees, and we’d like you to help them be the best that they can be.” And so, they assigned me a dynamite young engineer, my first employee. And after a few months, my first employee quit. And at the time, the way we worked, when you’re a supervisor, your engineering employee would prepare their technical work in a memo and then bring it to their supervisor, and the supervisor would review it, offer suggestions for improvement, and your engineer would incorporate those and then bring it back. And so, I asked my first employee why he was going to quit, and he said, “Well, Alan, you really seem like a neat guy, and I know you love engineering, but I have brought you my work 14 times, 14 drafts, and although I appreciate your feedback, I think we’ve passed the point of diminishing returns for the detail that you’re helping me with. So, it just doesn’t work for me.” And I said, “Well, any suggestions? I welcome your thoughts going forward.” And he said, “Well, I think maybe you ought to think about what your real contribution is that the company’s asking you to do, because maybe what they want you to do, because you care about the bigger picture and how it fits in, is help connect your employees to the vision of the company, the strategy for this new airplane, what the requirements are, and help your employees align with where the company is going their efforts and their contribution, and provide them continuing feedback and help on what they need to continually serve.” And I’ll never forget how, on one hand, I was devastated that my first employee quit. On the other hand, I was so thankful, and ever more so over the years, that my very first employee—and I’ve had a lot of them since then!—that my very first employee helped me understand what it meant, and what my real service was, when I moved into supervision and then management and then senior leadership position. Marshall: That is a great case study. When you came to Ford, one of the things, I think, that coaches would love to hear about is your emphasis on leadership behavior and team behavior, and some of the things you did to really create a positive environment for the team leaders, and how you worked with your team members. Alan: Oh, you bet. So, I personally really think the word “coach” and “coaching” is really important, and I also have found over the years, at Boeing and at Ford, that it really captures a very
important part of a senior leadership, a CEO’s, service, because you are coaching lots of people to come together around a compelling vision, a comprehensive strategy for achieving it, and also the relentless implementation of your plan to deliver both of those. And from a coaching point of view, I’ve found over the years that working together principles and practices for large-‐scale system development and integration and business leadership—it is so important that everybody on the team, and all the stakeholders, the customers, the employees, the suppliers, your lenders, the union—that everybody knows and embraces these expected behaviors associated with working together. And just a few of them, Marshall, that we’ve come to really appreciate are people first, and secondly, everyone is included, so that we really are holding ourselves accountable for a compelling vision for our enterprise, a comprehensive strategy for achievement, and that relentless implementation—very clear performance goals, all being on one plan, using facts and data to assess where we are—everyone, everyone, sharing with everyone what the plan is, what the status against the plan is, and areas that need special attention by us, and then working on those areas with a “propose a plan, find a way” positive can-‐do attitude. Respect, listen, help, and really appreciate each other, and maintain our emotional resilience and trust in this process of working together. And then also, having fun, never at anybody’s expense, but having fun and enjoying the journey and enjoying the people working together—it’s almost like a zero-‐tolerance policy that we all are going to subscribe to these working-‐together principles and practices, and the expected behaviors that go with it, and we’re going to help each other further develop our performance on using these working-‐together principles and practices, and bring those to the management system that we have for managing the enterprise. And in Ford’s case, for Marshall and all the other coaches, it was a pretty dysfunctional management team and environment 9 years ago, because many Ford was many Ford companies, all around the world, the way Henry Ford set it up, which was great. But they had become very independent, and there was no sharing of the products and services that people want or the productivity or the strategy. And so, we were competing with the finest global companies in the world, so it was even more important that everybody be on the team, that we subscribe and commit to these working-‐together principles and practices and expected behaviors, so that we could come together around the vision and the strategy for achieving it. And then, every week, every Thursday, everybody linked up around the world. All of the charts are color-‐coded, so that we can know quickly what needs special attention—red or yellow or green—and then we all are using these expected behaviors and the way we work together to turn the reds to yellows to greens to achieve our strategy and deliver an exciting, profitably-‐growing company. Marshall: You know, Alan, a couple of things—one, I think the coaches would like to know—when you came, you were challenged by a couple of people about the issue of leadership behavior, about the BPR process. And can you describe the support you did get?—and I think who did a great job was Mr. Ford, of sticking with you—how that worked, what happened, and how it started to help turn around the culture?
Alan: I think that the most important thing about the management system that everybody wants to use, and what we’ve used for all the airplane programs, leading Boeing, and then subsequently leading Ford, is the importance that we, the leadership team, are going to hold ourselves accountable for a compelling vision that everybody can align with. It’s a reason to get up in the morning, to come to work, to dedicate your life to. And secondly, we’re going to hold ourselves accountable for developing that comprehensive strategy for delivering that. And then thirdly, we are going to work together every week and deal with the reality, not the way we wished it would be or hoped it would be, but the reality of where we are on the plan, and the areas that need special attention, and then work together to turn the reds to yellows to greens. And of course, at Ford at that time, everybody wasn’t on the team. So now, everybody’s on the team. All the businesses around the world, all the skill teams going across the world, engineering, manufacturing, finance—and so, we came together around a compelling vision, opening the highways to all mankind, Henry Ford’s original compelling vision, a really clear strategy of serving all the markets around the world with a complete family, small, medium, large, cars, utilities, and trucks, of Ford vehicles, and a commitment that every Ford vehicle would be best in class, quality, fuel efficiency, safety, really smart design, connectivity. And we were going to work together as one team, worldwide, to create a profitably-‐growing corporation. 00:20:14 And so, we started the business plan reviews, and I wanted to do it in about 2 hours. And the first ones took 3 days, Marshall. And all the people wanted to explain to each other what they knew and what needed to be done. And so, there was not a lot of seeking to understand, but a lot of seeking to be understood. And so, I just kept facilitating it to be simpler, understandable, condensed, and we got it down to a day, and then we got it down to two and a half hours. We invited guests to watch our leadership team work. Everybody had 5 to 10 minutes to summarize their contribution to the plan, the areas that needed special attention. And then, we also introduced the guests from all around the world, guests of the leadership team. And then, at the end of the meeting, we had a chance to ask the guests for their feedback. And then, of course, on the wall, we had the expected behaviors that we’d previously talked about. So, you can imagine how everybody wanted to demonstrate the expected behaviors, help each other, especially when you have all the guests watching. So, what was really neat, Marshall, is that the culture change started immediately, and every member of the team—they weren’t going somewhere else to have something done to them, but they actually were leading their personal development, based on these expected behaviors, in the management system we had in place. And they led the culture development and the culture change that they wanted, that we all wanted, that we knew was going to deliver an exciting, profitably-‐growing company for all of us. So, that started on day one, and then we were able to handle all of the crises that came along, the financial crises, the economic crises around the world, the most serious recession we’ve ever been in since the Depression, the bankruptcy of our competitors, and as you pointed out, those business plan reviews sometimes, instead of being every
week, we were meeting every day from 12 to 1 because of all the chaos that was going on in the world, so that we could deal with that reality, and deal with it decisively. Marshall: You know, one thing that’s totally different that you did, and it goes back to Boeing—remember at Boeing when you had the video? I thought that was a fascinating story. And the whole idea—if you can just share a couple of things about your logic for having observers—what happened at Boeing with the video, and then the logic you have for using observers for your team at Ford, because I don’t know anybody else that’s done this like you, and I think it would be great to share with the coaches. Alan: Oh, sure. Well, it really is a phenomenal coaching technique or process. We were approached by a movie maker who was under consignment with Channel 4 in the United Kingdom, and his name is Karl Sabbagh, and he loved making movies about the creation of sophisticated products. And he had had a very successful movie about designing and constructing skyscrapers. So, he came to us and said, “I’d like to make a movie about the Boeing team worldwide, with all the suppliers and the customers helping to create the 777,” arguably one of the finest airplanes in the world now, “because everybody’s so interested in it,” he said. And we, of course, thought, “We can’t do that! That will give away all the secrets of Boeing, on how we create these wonderful commercial airplanes!” And then, we talked to him. We finally agreed that if, when we reviewed his work, all of his hundreds of hours of filming, if we saw something that felt like we were violating Boeing, then he would agree to take that out. And at the end, out of all of those thousands of hours of filming the creation of the airplane, we didn’t ask that anything be taken out. And he really, really, of course, focused on the technology, but he really focused on the people, and all of the talented people that actually worked together to create a commercial airplane with 4 million parts. And one of the reasons we decided to do that was that we wanted to further facilitate and accelerate the working-‐together environment that we were creating at Boeing on all the new airplane programs. And we thought that, if a camera was following all of our work in the design reviews, the engineers creating products, balancing hundreds of objectives, including the customer’s input, including the supplier’s input, including the engineers, including the finance input, the manufacturing input, so that the vehicle parts could actually be fabricated and assembled—that that might have a tremendous impact on the behaviors that we were committing to, on these working-‐together behaviors. And oh, did it ever! With a camera watching you, and watching your interactions with others, everybody really accelerated their commitment to these behaviors of listening to each other, of seeking to understand before you seek to be understood, of respecting each other, of helping each other, of being a positive influence, of working on problems. And so, it exceeded our expectations. Plus, a fabulous movie came out of it, and it’s still used on public television, Marshall, and it’s five 1-‐hour segments. And I think it’s still the most popular movie that’s used for fundraising on public television worldwide, because people just love seeing the story of creating a commercial airplane.
And also at Boeing and at Ford, to your other point, there was another reason that we wanted to invite the guests. And the guests are from the factory floor, from engineering, from manufacturing. They’re invited by the leadership team. And of course, it was fabulous to spread the working-‐together behaviors, but also to network and help everybody understand how everybody could participate in their business plan review, wherever they are in the corporation, and allow the flow of information going up and down and back and forth across the corporation. And again, when people are watching you, people just move to operate in the light, as we all know, because it’s effective. It’s the way you should treat people. It’s the way we all want to be treated. So, having the guests there at every business plan review, and them giving their feedback at the end, not only accelerated the culture and the expected behaviors’ development, but also was actually inspirational, because they would go back to their team with a commitment that “I’ve seen my part discussed at the senior leadership team meeting. I had no idea it’s so big. My part’s really important. I’m going to enhance my leadership and my business plan review process, so I can contribute even more.” But it really, really accelerated the culture. And Boeing uses it still today, this process, and Ford uses it every week at Ford. Marshall: Well, one thing I think would be great for the coaches to learn is the priority-‐setting process, the red, yellow, green—how it worked, your experience at the beginning, and then when people finally started openly confronting and dealing with the real issues, how that happened. I think it’s a wonderful story. Alan: Well, Marshall, clearly this is such an important question you’re asking. It was absolutely, and continues to be, the key, I think, of leadership development and teamwork and creating sustainable long-‐term profitably-‐growing enterprises. And the key is a safe environment in the business plan review process, because we’re asking each other to share what the real status is. So, let’s say we’re looking at the launch of the new vehicles, or the revenue stream, or the productivity measures, or the leadership development and the people development processes. All of them can be measured. And we look five years out, in the trends that we want to deliver. And so, when I joined Ford in September of 2006, we started the business plan reviews. And the first forecast that now we were sharing with everybody on the team in September of ’06, for the full year of ’06—the forecast was that we were going to lose 17 billion dollars for the year. And three months later, we actually did lose 17 billion dollars. So, it was— Marshall: You hit your target! 29:58 Alan: So, it was not a forecast accuracy issue. It was that we needed a fundamentally different vision and strategy, going forward. And so, we had about 320 charts. Everybody is on the team. I’ve shared with them that it will really help for all of us to understand quickly and very effectively if they just go ahead and color-‐code each of their charts, whether it was launch, or whether it was
productivity, or whatever element of plan—just color-‐code it green, yellow, and red. And yellow is an issue, but you have a solution in place. Red—here’s an issue, but you don’t have a solution in place. And that’s something that we really need to pay special attention to. Well, the wonderful core team at the time had no idea how to color-‐code their chart, because that meant they were color-‐coding themselves red. And in the old Ford culture, things happened—you disappeared if you brought a problem and you didn’t have a solution. That’s one of the worst management tenets ever, because now you’re trying to manage a secret. So, we started the process, and all 320 charts, Marshall, are green. And we’re losing 17 billion dollars! So, I stopped the meeting one time, and I ran a roundtable. Everybody networked on the Internet, all around the world. And I said, “Is there anything that’s not going well—just one little thing that’s not going well?” And of course, they were concerned that color-‐coding it—so eye contact goes to the floor. No one says anything. So, I just shared again, “We’re not going to be able to manage a secret. And the more we can share with each other what the real situation is, then we can help each other. We can work together, and we can help each other.” And so, I didn’t know what I’m going to tell you here until I read the American Icon book that was mentioned earlier. And it described a situation where Mark Fields, who was the leader of the Americas business, North and South America, was doing his business plan review the night before we do the one for the corporation. And he had just stopped production in Oakville, Canada on the new Edge vehicle, because they had an actuator issue on the lift gate, and we were only going to deliver our vehicles if they were absolutely the finest quality and met all the requirements. So, he stopped production. He had 5,000 Edges sitting on the tundra. And each one of the launch charts has three columns, one for scheduled, one for technical quality, and another one for financial impact, and all three of the columns were green for this Edge launch! And Mark says to the team, “You know, this looks like one of those red things Alan’s talking about.” And somebody said, “Well, what’s your point?” He said, “Well, I think my point is that we should probably color-‐code this red, because that’s the way it is, and even though we don’t know an answer, then everybody can start—we can get that in the open, and everybody that can help, can help.” And somebody said, “Mark, good luck to you, but I think that could be really detrimental to your career to do that without having an answer.” So, he said, “Well, I think we need to trust Alan. It makes sense. And so, let’s color it red.” So, we walk into the business plan review meeting the next day and start out, and green, green, green, and wham! Up comes Mark’s chart on the launch—red, three columns of red. And Mark explains the issue in one sentence, and I start to clap. And I looked around the room, and I could see it in everybody’s eyes—there’s the sign from Alan. The two big doors behind us are going to open. Two large people are going to come in, whisk Mark out of the meeting, and Mark is gone as we know him! And so, I said, following my clap, “Mark, that is great visibility.” And I looked around the team, and said, “What else can we do to help you out on this?” And before Mark could say anything, Bennie Fowler had something. He said, “You know, Mark, I think I’ve seen that on such-‐and-‐such a launch. I’m going to get
that data over to you right away.” Bera Kusak was the head of engineering at the time. He said, “I think I’ve seen that engineering issue. I’ll get you that data.” Joe Hinrichs is now the head of the Americas, but was the head of manufacturing worldwide. He said, “You know, we’re going to figure this out. We’re going to find a solution. You’re going to need some manufacturing engineers to swap out these parts and get the production going again, so I’ll get them identified, and I’ll get them up to Oakville, Canada, right away to support you.” That interchange took 8 or 10 seconds. And then I said “thank you” and went on to the next green, green, green chart. The next week, I think we had one red, Mark’s red. The next week, I think he turned it to yellow, found the issue, found a solution. The next week, it turned to green. The parts were flowing, and the vehicles started to flow around the world. And guess what, coaches? Guess what the colors of all 320 charts were the following week? No, not all red, but it was clearly a rainbow. And everybody now knew, everybody knew, what the real situation was, why we were losing 17 billion dollars. And now, with those expected behaviors, everybody knew that the expected behavior was that we were going to turn the reds to yellows to greens by working together. And for me, it was the most exhilarating moment of my short career then, at that time, at Ford, because I knew now that not only me, but everybody, knew what the situation was. Everybody knew what areas needed special attention. And everybody was committing to help each other. And if we wouldn’t have made that breakthrough, so that we could then further develop a culture of working together, we never could have delivered this fantastic growing Ford company today. Marshall: You know, Alan, one thing that you taught me—remember, years ago, when we worked together, you said, “Marshall, don’t make coaching about you. Make it about the great people you coach, how hard they work, and how proud you are of them.” That totally changed my life. And one thing I’d like you to share with the group is the idea of leader-‐facilitator. One thing I love about what you do is that you never have to be the guy that provides all the answers. You’re much more of a facilitator. I’ve never seen a leader do this quite like you do. If you don’t mind, if you could share a little of that with the group, of how you play the role of leader as facilitator, and you fight the urge to always provide the answers? Alan: I’d be glad to, Marshall. And I’ll always treasure working together with you, also. It really is maybe a little bit different than the way a lot of people are operating today, although I know, from all the CEOs that have approached me, and the educational institutions, that people really want to further develop this dimension of leadership and management, because it seems like a lot of times, the things that we were promoted for, firefighting, quick decisions, taking action, telling people what to do, helping people understand—I believe that the more senior a position you have to serve, the more you need to move into a role of facilitating, of coaching, of helping others and yourself understand what the situation really is. What is the real plan? Does everybody understand the plan? Does everybody know what the areas are that need special attention?
And it’s not for you anymore. It’s for everybody. And your most important contribution is going to be that you hold yourself accountable, as the leader, and you hold, especially starting with your senior leadership team and the board of directors—accountable to define that compelling vision and the comprehensive strategy for delivering it, so that everybody understands it. If it’s not understandable, it’s not a compelling vision and a comprehensive strategy, because the way you’re going to get great things done with lots of people is if everybody understands it. And then holding yourself and your team accountable for relentless implementation of the plan—those Thursday business plan review meetings—it’s not a warm, fuzzy thing. We’re going to be authentic. We’re going to be transparent. We’re going to help each other. And that’s going to be the expected behaviors. And you combine that with the expected behaviors—it’s exhilarating. It’s fun. No one misses a Thursday meeting. And so, I talk, as the leader sitting at my position at the roundtable. I am facilitating this review. I keep it on time. I keep everybody inside their allotted time. I lead a question for clarification, or looking around the room to ensure that everybody was participating, was listening, that we haven’t missed anything. 40:03 So, you’re really moving to a place where you are now facilitating your coaching. You’re ensuring that everybody knows what the situation is, everybody’s being appreciated, and then the team now—the knowledge is just glowing. People aren’t trying to seek to be understood. Their questions are seeking to understand. They’re here to help each other. They’re not giving lectures. They’re not giving speeches. And everybody’s not perfect. We’re all going to continue to further develop. So, in between the meetings, we might help each other, and we ensure that there’s no Blackberrys. There’s no iPhones. There’s no working on your computer. You’re paying attention to each one of the members who’s presenting their status and stuff. And so, it is a further development of the leadership model and the behaviors to go with that. If you run into a situation where there’s a crisis, something has to be done right away, and safety or something like that had to be dealt with, of course you would do it the same way, but you’d also include everybody, just like you do on everything. And I just think what happens, Marshall, is that everybody continues to move and improve as a leader and as a working-‐together contributor of the team. Marshall: And just two final question. Question #1—I’ve known you for I don’t know how many years, 20-‐something years, a long time. I’ve never seen you be down. I’ve never seen you complain. Why? You and Frances are the two people I would say this about. Give the group some ideas, as coaches, of how you do it, and your ideas for other leaders, to keep them always being professional and positive. I was with you after 9/11, which had to be the hardest thing in the world, and you just made such a comeback. Can you talk just a little bit about how you do it? Alan: Oh, boy, 9/11 was really something. Of course it was really something, but as an airplane designer, I never, ever thought a commercial airplane would be used as a weapon. And it changed our world in every aspect. And we had to move decisively. Travel dropped by 50%. All the
airplanes that we were making were not needed. And we had to really pull together and work together with all the stakeholders to get through that and save our company, and at the same time continue investing in the products that the people would really want and value, going forward. And my thought about that, Marshall, is that I just start with that it is an absolute honor to serve. When we have been asked to serve, at whatever level—we’re all serving. We’re all an example. We’re all moving forward. We’re all making a difference by what we do and how we act. And the shadow of that service gets so large with the more senior positions. And leadership is important. Everybody wants to know—are we OK? Back to the things that we hold ourselves accountable for—holding ourselves accountable for that vision that’s meaningful, that’s understandable—I’ll commit my life to this strategy for achieving it—holding ourselves accountable for the relentless implementation every week—that is such an honor to serve. And there is just nothing that is down about that. There is nothing that is negative about that. And so, on the other hand, if you make it negative, or you’re scared, or you’re coming from a position of fear, and you feel like you need to know everything, and you can’t include everybody and tap into all the knowledge around your entire team, then you are going to get really scared, and you’re going to act in very detrimental ways, because what people are going to respond to is if they know what the situation is. All those reds are gems. They are gems. I can’t wait. All of us cannot wait to get to that Thursday morning review and see the reds that have turned to yellows that turned to greens. But also, we are really excited to see the new reds, because here is a gem. Here is something that we know now, that we can all work on, that’s really important. And it’s going to be critical to the success of our enterprise. And so, it’s exciting. I can’t think of anything that is more exciting. The only time it would not be exciting is if you didn’t know what’s going on, and not just me, but if everybody didn’t know what was going on. That would be absolutely terrifying, and you’d probably act the same way. So, you want to love the process. You want to love the participants, because everybody’s going to do whatever it takes, when everybody knows what the vision strategy and the plan is, to deliver the plan, to deliver the strategy, to deliver that compelling vision. Look at Boeing. Look at Ford. Boeing—getting people together worldwide. What we’ve found is that, if you get people together in these wonderful commercial airplanes, and they get to know one another around the world, you find out you have way more in common than you’re different, and usually you choose to work together for the greater good. Ford, Henry Ford—113 years of innovation, getting people together safely and efficiently around the world—that is just exciting. And to get a chance to be asked to serve, to help continuously improve the products and services and the productivity and efficiency and create an exciting, sustainable business—it supports so many people and deals with the big issues. We all care about economic development, energy independence and security, environmental sustainability—that is really, really fun. Marshall: Well, Alan, just one final question. Any final words—now that you have a chance—you’re no longer in that CEO role, you’re kind of coming to coach yourself. Any final words for all the coaches listening right now?
Alan: Well, first of all, thank you for each of you. Coaching is just one of the highest orders of service, because you’re helping people that really care, that want to continuously improve their leadership and their management performance. And at the foundation of that is going to be the behaviors, the way you treat each other, and the two elements are what leadership management process we’re using—and in our case, I’ve explained the management system that we use of everybody getting together, coming together around the vision strategy and the plan, the relentless implementation of the business plan review—but combining the process with the expected behaviors and helping everybody further develop the behaviors that enable working together and transparency and helping each other, and doing it in real time inside the business, and being a coach to help them do that, to sit in the meeting and watch people work, to share with the different participants how these behaviors are affecting each other and what they can do to enhance that effectiveness—that is just a phenomenal opportunity. And I love coaching. I’ve loved coaching for 45 years, as a program manager and a CEO, and I love being a partner to the CEOs and their teams to help them further improve their process and their commitment to the expected behaviors, and to create exciting, viable, profitably-‐growing companies for the good of all of us. Marshall: Well, the final thing, Alan, again, is—thank you so much for doing this. I know how busy you are. You have a zillion requests. I really appreciate you taking the time to help all of us. And speaking for all of the coaches, I just want to say thank you. Alan: Thank you, and best of luck to all of the coaches. What an honor to serve with you. 50:15 Marshall: Bye. Thank you.