Ansteorran Internal Letter of Decision November 2014

Unto the College of Heralds does Alisone McCay, Bordure Herald, send greetings. This letter includes

decisions made on the November 2014 ILoI made on December 10, 2014 over Skype.

Administrative Actions

Aoife inghean Tuathail - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in May of 2010, via

Ansteorra

Per pale argent and sable, two feathers

in saltire counterchanged

Submitted through the Barony of Eldern

Hills

Consulting herald : Christofle de Lorraine

Correction to Device (2014-Nov-05 06:11:22): Asterisk : this is a RESUBMITTED

DEVICE. My error.

Pending at Kingdom due to change in paperwork.

I'd be surprised (shocked) if the orientation of charges on a chevron are always

blazoned. For one, I'm fairly certain that I didn't always blazon it. However, it wouldn't

hurt to add the orientation to the blazon.

Diego de la Vega - New Name & New

Device

Per fess sable and gules, a chevron

between two horses' heads couped

regardant and an alisee cross Or

Pended at Kingdom for further consideration by college.

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Gassion de Beaumarchais - New

Device

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in December of

2002, via Ansteorra

Ermines, in base a phoenix gules on

an enarched rayonny Or

Pended at Kingdom for corrected paperwork.

Gwenllian ferch Maredudd - New

Augmentation of Arms

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in September of

1992, via Ansteorra

Argent, a bend cotised sable between six crescents azure, for augmentation the bend charged in

chief with three straight trumpets in sheaf Or.

Kazimir Liskowicz syn Wylkowski - New Name Change

OSCAR NOTE: the old name was registered in November of 2012, via Ansteorra.

Old Item: Kazimir Liskovich syn Volkov, to be retained as an alternate name.

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Kazimir is a period Polish name, found in the Academy of St. Gabriel Report 1752

(http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/1752.txt)

Liskowicz syn is a Patronymic byname. SENA states that bynames based on relationships can be

marked in a number of ways and includes the example of using syn after the byname. Liscowicz

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itself is a constructed byname. SENA states that another way of indicating relationship was the

'wicz' ending to the byname. So in essence Liskowicz syn would mean 'son of Lisko's son'.

Although documentation for the name Lis or Lisko in Polish, beyond the Clan name Lis, has not

been found, Lisko is documented in the online edition of Paul Wickenden's A Dictionary of

Period Russian Names (And some of their Slavic roots) (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/).

The cited name is Lisko Cziskowicz which seems to be a Polish name given the 'wicz' ending,

and even if this is not the case, Russian and Polish share compatible name groups per SENA and

this citation would justify the use of the 'wicz' with Lisko as a purely Russian name.

Wylkowski is a constructed Locative byname. SENA states that in Polish i/y/j switches are

common, and that adding -ski to the end of a place name in its grammatically required form is

one way to construct an adjectival locative byname. Submitter found evidence of many places

called Wilkow in Poland, several with history stretching back to our period. However, as the

geographical boundries of Poland have changed a lot over the years submitter was unsure which

would be the best one to use to document this name, and is hoping someone more knowledgeable

within the college may know.

Pended at Kingdom for clarification of the name.

Raibert

Gordon -

New

Device

Per

chevron

ermine

and sable,

a wyvern

rampant to sinister sable

Pended at Kingdom for updated paperwork

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Sibéal inghean ui Suilleabhain - New

Name & New Device

Purpure, a dragon displayed and on a

chief urdy argent a roundel between an

increscent and decrescent vert

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Meaning (Elizabeth of the O'Sullivan clan)

most important.

Sibeal is found in Academy of St. Gabriel report 1955

inghean ui Suilleabháin is a constructed byname using guidelines found in Academy of St.

Gabriel report 1203 and the male byname ua Suilleabhain is found in Annuals of the Four

Masters http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/T100005C/text009.html

Pended at Kingdom

Forwarded to Laurel

Absolon of Hereford - Resub

Device

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in October of

2003, via Ansteorra

Per pale gules and sable, a

halberd and overall two swords

inverted in saltire argent

Andrew Turnbull - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Sound most important.

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Andrew : see Academy of Saint Gabriel Rpt 1416 (http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-

bin/showfinal.cgi/1416.txt)

Turnbull : dates to 1400s. William "Turnbull" listed as a canon of Glasgow Cathedral (1452)

From the FamilySearch Historical Records:

Andrew Faulding, chr. 1578, Thornton-Curtis, Lincoln, England, batch C03242-3

Andrew Trumbill, chr. 1575, Dunfermline,Fife, Scotland, batch C10012-1

William Turnbull, chr. 1576, Bassingthorpe, Lincoln, England, batch C02599-2

Charles Turnbull, chr. 1586, Ropsley, Lincoln, England, batch C03115-3

Margaret Turnball, chr. 1584, Dunfermline,Fife, Scotland, batch C10012-1

Robert Turnbull, chr. 1560, Errol, Perth, Scotland, batch C11351-2

Angus MacIntyre - Resub Device

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in May of 2014, via

Ansteorra

Azure, a bar gemel between three

griffins Or.

The previous return. [May 2014 LoAR,

R-Ansteorra] Angus MacIntyre. Device. Azure, a fess between three griffins Or.

This device is returned for conflict with the important non-SCA arms of de la Pole, Earl of

Suffolk, Azure, a fess between three leopard's faces Or.

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Caelan MacRob - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in April of 2003, via

Ansteorra

(Fieldless) An armored forearm fesswise

appaumy argent sustaining pendant from

its fist a pouch sable goutty d'eau.

5: Castelhana da Silva - New Name &

New Device

Please consider the following possible

conflicts identified by OSCAR (many

will not be conflicts): Catalina de

Silva(1/2007)

Per saltire gules and Or, two suns in

splendor Or and two wyverns erect vert.

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Language (Portuguese) most important.

Culture (Portuguese) most important.

Name constructed using SENA appendix A (Iberian - Portuguese)

Castelhana given name : Portuguese Feminine names from Lisbon, 1565

http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/portuguese/fem1565.html

da Silva locative : Portuguese names from the 16th Century

http://heraldry.sca.org/names/portugal16.htm

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6: Christofle Etienne de Lorraine le

jeune - New Name & New Device

Argent, on a chevron between three

seahorses azure five escallops argent

palewise.

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Language most important.

Culture most important.

Christofle Masculine Names from Artois, 1601

http://heraldry.sca.org/names/french/1601masc.html

de Lorraine Some 16th Century Parisian Male French Names

http://heraldry.sca.org/kwhss/2013/Brunissende_Dragonette/Proces_verbaux_Paris_1583.htm

<Christofle Etienne de Lorraine le jeune> - http://www.s-

gabriel.org/names/cateline/norman16.html

in intro) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/french1601.html

Diego Vasco de la Vega - New Name

Submitter desires a masculine name.

Culture (15th-16th c. Spain) most important.

Diego given name

Vasco http://heraldry.sca.org/names/spanish/patro-freq.html

de la Vega "de la" plus "surname" http://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/locative.html

http://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/MenFullNames1.html

Original submission of "Diego de la Vega" being referenced on LoAR 07-2013 in reference to

submission "Ramon de Diego de la Vega" for inferring paternity of Diego de la Vega (Zorro).

The submitter added a name element to help avoid this problem.

https://oscar.sca.org/kingdom/kingloi.php?kingdom=8&loi=2916#9

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Elena Wyth - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in November of

2013, via Ansteorra

(Fieldless) Four Wake knots conjoined in

annulo argent.

9: Elspeth Monypenny - New Name & New

Device

Azure, a chamfron and on a chief Or a

snafflebit azure.

Submitter desires a feminine name.

No changes.

Elspeth Elspeth Lawder, marriage 01 Dec

1597, Prestonpans,East Lothian,Scotland. Batch Number: M11718-2

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTGL-4NP

Monypenny is found in the IGI. <Helen Monypenny> is M19503-9 found at

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYS3-7LJ , marriage July 6, 1592, South Leith, Midlothian,

Scotland.

Eva Warde de Willoughton - New

Name & New Device

Sable, a bend vert fimbriated between a

dragon passant and a fox passant Or.

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Meaning (Each component except Eva, that

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I know of, has a meaning that resonates with me.) most important.

[Asterisk: Text from submission form]

For the place name I used this website to reference the place I wish to have my persona come

from (Willoughton) : http://www.pastscape.org.uk/hob.aspx?hob_id=327087

For her surname Warde: http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/medieval_surnames.htm

For her first name Eva: http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/reaney.cgi?Eva

Here is a link showing both the double surname (place and description) from the same time

period and with the Warde spelling : http://www.surnamedb.com/surname/ward

R&W sn. Purvis

<Eva Purveys> 1400, 1450

sn. Surgerman

<Thomas Warde, surgeour> 1487

Examples of <surname><de placename> are:

sn. Dickenson

John and Henry <Dicounesson de Clesnesse> were sons of Richard, son of Henry de Clesnesse

1359

sn. Dyson

<John Dyson de Langside> 1369

sn. Wader

<Robert le Woder de Merthone> 1276

The Historical Gazetter of English Placenames entry for Willoughton

(http://placenames.org.uk/browse/mads/epns-deep-77-b-subparish-000046) has:

<Wiloughton> 1396, 1431

<Wyloughton> 1440

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<Willoughton> 1503, 1530-32, 1535, 1545

<Wylloughton> 1535, 1548, 1562

Eva Warde de Willoughton - New

Badge

OSCAR is unable to find the name,

either registered or submitted.

Sable, a dragon passant Or and a

bordure compony vert and Or.

Ewan Connal Mackenzie - New

Device

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in November of

1993, via Ansteorra

Pily bendy argent and vert, a

squirrel and a bordure sable

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13: Griffin Fane - New Name & New

Device

Please consider the following possible

conflicts identified by OSCAR (many

will not be conflicts): Griffyn ap

Owain(11/1998)

Azure, a cross sable fimbriated Or, and

overall a gryphon sejant argent.

Sound most important.

Griffin Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 2176 <Griffin> as a surname dated to 1597. "English

Names found in Brass Enscriptions" by Julian Goodwyn

(http://heraldry.sca.org/names/brasses/men.html) dates <Griffin> as a male given name to 1583.

Fane dated to 1279 in R&W s.n. Fane.

Additional listings for Fane Thomas fane - http://www.thepeerage.com/p68.htm

Julian de Clare - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in April of 2010,

via Ansteorra

Per bend azure and argent, in bend

sinister a mullet of eight points argent,

and a holly sprig inverted (vert fructed

gules).

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Kazimir Liskovich syn Volkov - New

Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in November of

2012, via Ansteorra

(Fieldless) A peacock close Or perched

upon a Celtic harp sable

Kelly MacGregor - New Device

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in December of

2013, via Ansteorra

Argent, an oak tree eradicated vert,

impaled by a sword inverted argent

hilted gules palewise, a bordure

dovetailed sable

Margareta Elße von Meißen - New

Name & New Device

Checky sable and argent, on a bend

gules five mullets of six points Or

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Language most important.

Culture (1300-1600 Germany) most

important.

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Margareta - German Feminine Forename. Appears in that spelling twice (dated 1572 and

1600) in "16th-17th Century Hessian Given Names and Surnames" by Kunegundis filia

Theoderici (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/kunegund/hessenames.html).

Elße - German Feminine Forename, a diminutive of Elizabeth. Appears in that spelling once in

"German Names from 1495" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman,

http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/german1495.html).

von - German locative preposition

Meißen - German town on the river Elbe, founded by 929. Spellings vary in period; this one is

found in Ortelius Map 96 (http://www.orteliusmaps.com/topnames/ort96.html). The map is

dated to 1569.

SENA Appendix A allows Double Given Names in German.

Masina Da Ferrara - New Name

Please consider the following possible conflicts identified by OSCAR (many will not be

conflicts): Myskia náttfari(5/2010)

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Meaning most important.

Masina : Italian names from Imola, 1312

http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/imolafemfreq.html

da Ferrara : 14th century Venetian personal names

http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/venice14/venice14sur.html#table

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Meadhbh Grahame - New

Device

OSCAR finds the name

registered exactly as it appears

in May of 2014, via Ansteorra

Barry engrailed argent and

sable, a chevron cotised vert

Roibert Gordon - New Name

<Roibert> http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Roibeard.shtml

<Roibert Young> male, married 1611 Scotland. Batch no. M11479-6

(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY7Z-2ZS)

<Gordon> http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/scots/dost/gordon.html

<Patrik Gordon> male, married 1611 Scotland. Batch no. M11310-2

(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTV1-WY2)

Thomas Blackhawk - New Name &

New Device

Sable, on a bend argent cotised Or three

birds contourny palewise gules.

Submitter desires a masculine name.

No major changes.

Thomas - Given name. Requesting

registration per SENA PN.1.B.e - "Legal Name Allowance"

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Blackhawk - English animal/color combination. Registered as surname in July of 1999 (via

Ansteorra). Name will show conflict with "Ivo Blackhawk", registered July 1999.

Vigdís Gráfeldr - New Badge

OSCAR finds the name registered

exactly as it appears in November of

2013, via Ansteorra

(Fieldless) a raven sable within and

conjoined to a cornice gules.

The cornice is a charge found in the arms of de Bolonia, as seen in the Stemmario Trivulziano,

mid-15th c., folio 64 -- per Master Bruce Draconarius, Caid

Returned for further work.

Aubrey Ericsdatter - New Device

OSCAR is unable to find the name,

either registered or submitted.

Sable, a copper cauldron proper

Submitted through the Barony of

Wiesenfeuer

Consulting herald : Ragnar Larsson

Name is on the 10-07 KLoI

Copper is considered Or for tincture and therefore returned for conflict: Aurelie de Montpellier

(Fieldless) A cauldron Or.

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Guy Trenchmere - Resub

Device

OSCAR finds the name

registered exactly as it appears

in June of 2014, via Ansteorra

Per chevron ployé sable and argent, two death's heads and a serpent nowed counterchanged.

Conflict with Thorgrim Hildulfsson registered in May of 1996 (via Meridies):

"Sable, on a pile inverted between two skulls each vested of a conical helmet winged argent a wolf's

head couped contourny sable."

Original return for pile shows it is lowered, but showing conflict with Thorgrim Hildulfsson.

Vaduny cel Tradat - New Name & New

Device

Gules, in pale a raven displayed sable

beneath a decrescent argent

Submitter desires a feminine name.

Sound most important.

Language most important.

Culture (Romanian Gipsy) most important.

Meaning most important.

Spelling most important.

She is willing to take Vederey (first name) referenced in the 2011 Antroponimia of Medieval

Transylvania, vol. II by Serban Turcus.

(https://www.academia.edu/6547716/Antroponimia_%C3%AEn_Transilvania_medieval%C4%

83_secolele_XI-XIV_._

Evaluare_statistic%C4%83_evolu%C5%A3ie_semnifica%C5%A3ii._VOL._II -- requires a

membership in academia.edu)

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The last name should remain Romanian but may be changed.

(Asterisk : I understand that the submitter has been advised on Facebook's SCA Heraldry Chat

group that Vaduny may not be an acceptable first name, which I assume is why this comes with

a proposed substitution.)

Vaduny : http://www.behindthename.com/submit/name/vaduny

cel Tradat : http://surnames.behindthename.com/submit/name/celtradat

(Asterisk again : these are both records for user-submitted names with no documentation)

Also included : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_name

Returned due to lack of support of culture for the name and device is color on color