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________________________________________________________________________________________________________ © MMX11 CAMBRIDGE INSTITUTE FOR BETTER VISION 1 BONUS REPORT! Advanced Q & A Session Learn about traditional healing for Macular Degeneration, cataracts and other eye problems from one of the very few acupuncturists who specializes in the field, Dr. Andy Rosenfarb. Find out why leading research institutions are studying his methods - and what you can do to stop failing vision. ACUPUNCTURE COULD SAVE YOUR SIGHT!

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BONUS REPORT!

Advanced Q & A Session

Learn about traditional healing for Macular Degeneration, cataracts and other eye problems from one of the very few acupuncturists who specializes in the field, Dr. Andy Rosenfarb.Find out why leading research institutions are studying his methods - and what you can do to stop failing vision.

ACUPUNCTURE COULD SAVEYOUR SIGHT!

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Welcome to Better Vision

Before you jump into this Bonus Report, please read this page. Thanks!

This Bonus Report is for people who want to explore self-help and holistic alternatives to conventional eye care and maintain and promote the health and clarity of their eyes.

DISCLAIMER: The information within is not meant to diagnose or treat any medical conditions of the eyes or the visual system. Anyone with a medical disorder or persistent vision problem is advised to consult an eye doctor or other health care practitioner. The Cambridge Institute for Better Vision, Inc., is in no way liable for any use or misuse of this material. Individual results may vary. User testimonials are accurate as of when received, but, again, may not be representative of your experience.

COPYRIGHT: This material in all its forms is protected by copyright law and international treaty provisions and may not be copied, amended, imitated, or redistributed in whole or in part. All graphic images and associated logos are trademarks or registered trademarks of the Cambridge Institute for Better Vision, Inc., and may not be copied, altered, or transmitted without the express written permission of the Cambridge Institute for Better Vision, Inc.

Published by:Cambridge Institute for Better Vision, Inc.

65 Eastern Ave #B1-E, Essex MA [email protected]

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There just wasn’t enough time in the original teleseminar, Acupuncture Healing for Macular Degeneration, Cataracts and other Eye Problems. to cover everything you need to know for your vision!

So Martin Sussman and Dr. Rosenfarb got together for a follow-up session during which they also answered the essential questions remaining from attendees of the original teleseminar.

This Bonus Report is the transcript of that follow-up session.

Dr. Rosenfarb integrates Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) and cutting-edge approaches of Naturopathic Medicine to maximize results for patients with degenerative eye conditions. He is the author of Healing Your Eyes with Chinese Medicine and Ophthalmology in Chinese Medicine.Visit www.acupuncturehealth.net/ for more details.

Martin Sussman, a natural vision care expert, founded the Cambridge Institute in 1976. He is author of The Program for Better Vision book and audio series, co-author with Dr. Ernest Loewenstein, O.D., Ph.D., of Total Health at the Computer, and co-developer with Dr. Ray Gottlieb, O.D., Ph.D., of The Read Without Glasses Method. Visit www.BetterVision.com for more about your eyes.

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INTRODUCTION

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Dr. Kondrot: Welcome to Healthy Vision. This is your host Dr. Edward Kondrot. This

evening we have Martin Sussman as my guest, and he’s the founder

and president of the Cambridge Institute for Better Vision. And he has

Martin Sussman: As you know, we had many. many questions from teleclass listeners that

we couldn’t get to. That’s why we’re talking today: to answer those

questions and also to give people a fuller, more well-rounded and

deeper understanding of what we’ve already addressed.

First of all, Macular Degeneration. Is there hope to stop it from getting

any worse? Is there hope to slow it down, and is there hope to reverse

it? And what role does acupuncture play in that?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Well, great question. It depends on who you ask. If you ask a

conventional ophthalmologist they’re going to say, no, there’s nothing

that can be done for Macular Degeneration. Yet, there is ample research

that has shown that if you take certain nutrients that may be beneficial,

but there’s no conventional, medically-oriented treatment.

However, in terms of alternative or holistic approaches, yes, there’s

absolutely hope. It doesn’t mean it’ll help in every single case, but the

majority of the cases do respond very well to acupuncture, particularly

Micro Acupuncture™.

Martin Sussman: What’s the difference between Micro Acupuncture and acupuncture?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Traditional acupuncture is based on the 12 or 14 main meridians in the

body. It’s the primary system taught in most acupuncture schools

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ACUPUNCTURE for Macular Degeneration, Cataracts, and Other Eye Problems

Q & A

L I V E A U D I O E V E N T T R A N S C R I P T I O N

Martin Sussman and Dr. Andy Rosenfarb, ND, L.Ac., CA

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around the world. Very effective for hundreds of different health

conditions. Micro Acupuncture is just that. It’s a micro system that uses

a small map of the body, like reflexology does. The small map of the

body is reflected in the hands and feet.

There are 48 points in this specific acupuncture system. Again, only in

the hands and feet. We use certain points, but not all, of these 48 points

to help stimulate blood flow and

nerve conduction up to the eyes

and to stimulate the visual cortex.

Martin Sussman: Talk about the difference between

acupuncture and acupressure

massage. One of the questions

was, Where are the acupuncture

points for Macular Degeneration,

and what are the best hand and

foot points to treat Macular

Degeneration?

Also, if there’s some reference to

whether or not you can tell people what the points are, and should they

start rubbing them and massaging themselves?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Well, acupuncture is the use of needles. We use really thin needles, and

we insert them into acupuncture points in order to stimulate the point

to get a response.

Acupressure is the use of massage techniques, or you can use essential

oils on acupuncture points, or light, colors, and these types of things.

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“There are 48

points in the

acupuncture

system.

We don’t use them

all... we help

stimulate blood

flow and nerve

conduction.”

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You’re not really breaking the skin, or the surface of the skin, in

acupressure.

They’re both effective. Acupuncture we find to be a little bit more

effective for neurological conditions, but you can also use acupressure

to great benefit if you do it daily over time.

The points for the Micro Acupuncture

in the hands and feet, those are not

diagrammed. There are no books or

anything like that. But there are a lot

of other points. There are traditional

points that can be very useful for

different eye conditions, including

Macular Degeneration. In my books –

I have two: one is for clinicians, one is

more for laypeople. (See Introduction

page for titles.) Both have listings and

diagrams of the points.

If you go online, you can see the points around the eyes and forehead

that are effective that you can massage with your hands and fingers.

Put some pressure on there on a daily basis. We usually recommend 30

to 60 seconds of pressure on each point daily. That can be pretty

beneficial.

Martin Sussman: We talked a little about slowing down or reversing Macular

Degeneration. A lot of questions have to do with what kind of a cure is

there for Macular Degeneration? What’s the latest research on stem cell

therapy? Things like that. I think it’d be worth addressing the difference

between the cure concept and the healing concept once again.

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“You can also use

acupressure

to great benefit

if you do it daily

over time.”

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Dr. Rosenfarb: Well, cure, legally we can’t ever use that term and, conceptually, we

don’t like it. Cure means you have a complete remission of a condition.

When you’re dealing with a nerve degenerative condition like Retinitis

Pigmentosa or Macular Degeneration or something like that, what we

strive for is management.

The condition is going in a certain direction. In very, very, very early

stages we’ve had situations where we’ve been able to completely

reverse it. That’s not common, but we have seen it happen. Most

people who come to see me or seek acupuncture are pretty developed,

moderate-to-severe cases. There’s been some nerve cell damage. At

this point what we want to try is to recover whatever we can. There are

definitely some nerve cells that are dormant; meaning, they’re weak and

not functioning. They’re functional, but not functioning. Then you have

abnormal cells.

Both of those aren’t going to be functioning; meaning, they’re going to

impair your vision. But through acupuncture, through the right

supplementation, nutrition, and diet and exercise, and all these other

lifestyle changes, what we can do is recover those sick cells and weak

cells. You can’t bring back dead tissue or scar tissue or anything like

that, so we optimize whatever we can. We bring back whatever vision

we can. Then the goal is to hold it there.

Most people with these degenerative vision conditions are losing

anywhere from 3% to 10% of their vision per year. If you can slow that

down to 1%, or 2%, or 3%, or stop it entirely, which has happened in

some cases, I mean, that’s tremendous.

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Martin Sussman: That fits in with one of the other questions. Which is, How long does it

take for eyesight to degenerate so much a person can’t drive, and how

fast do things get bad? You said, generally speaking, it’s 3% to 10%

without any positive intervention.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Yes, and that doesn’t include wet Macular Degeneration, where

somebody may have a spontaneous bleed or something like that. We’re

talking about dry Macular Degeneration or Retinitis Pigmentosa and not

really looking at any bleeding, or

any trauma, or anything that really

accelerates something.

Martin Sussman: Did you say that once there’s

scarring, you can’t regenerate scar

tissue at all?

Dr. Rosenfarb: I don’t think so. Maybe there are a

lot of people who suggest that, but

I don’t think so.

Martin Sussman: And that, generally, the scarring

comes either through the nature of

the effect of the condition and/or

through the laser treatment?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Laser treatment. Injections. Just inflammation and the body’s attempt

to try to recover. You know, if you scratch yourself or you cut yourself,

you get scar tissue. That’s how the body heals it. It’s due to a lack of

collagen. It’s a substitute for collagen. As we age we have less access to

that. This is the secondary spackle that it has, and scar tissue is pretty

tough stuff. It’s hard to break down and break through.

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“Most people

with these

degenerative

vision conditions are

losing anywhere

from 3% to 10% of

their vision per

year.”

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Martin Sussman: Drugs and surgery. When do you think, or do you think at all, that it’s

ever appropriate for things like Avastin®, or Lucentis®, or laser surgery,

and what role do all of the conventional medical drugs play in your

holistic approach?

Dr. Rosenfarb: I think people who have uncontrollable eye pressure in cases like

glaucoma, mid-to-late stage, and they either can’t or they’re not willing

to do things to take care of it or manage it, certainly need medication. If

the medication won’t do it, then you can have things like surgical

procedures or laser procedures to help improve the eye pressure. With

wet Macular Degeneration, or Diabetic Retinopathy, or retinal

detachments, sometimes you need it. Sometimes the bleeding is just so

bad it’s an emergency situation, and the blood coagulating in the eye

can cause damage.

So, if you don’t have access and if it’s a severe bleed, yes, Avastin® or

Lucentis® may be appropriate. If you have Diabetic Retinopathy and

you have a severe bleed, yes. If you have a retinal detachment, yes. Go

get it put back and reattached. But, in the meantime, use integrative

ophthalmology, which means use things like acupuncture to

understand what caused it and help the healing process along at a real

effective rate to maximize your improvement and prevent any future

occurrences of happening.

On stem cells, my take is that gene therapy is probably going to end up

being a little bit more of an effective treatment. Stem cells, I like the

sound of it. I know they’re good for trauma; if you have a head trauma

or injuries. They work fantastically because they seem to migrate

towards trauma sites.

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When you’re dealing with things like Macular Degeneration and an

aging population, there are a lot of issues. One is they can’t control the

stem cells, which can be a problem. Especially if there’s undiagnosed or

low-grade cancer cells in the body. They know that stem cells will cause

cancer proliferation at a pretty rapid rate. So that risk factor is almost

enough to put the whole operation down, which is why there has been

so many issues with it.

Even doctors who do stem cells, they

know that if there’s any family

history or there’s anything going on

that suggests cancer, they won’t

even use it. So I think that stem cells

may someday be effective, but they

really, really have to get a lot more of

a handle on it; to really harness them

to – even if you inject them right

into the eye – it’s not necessarily

going to stay there and grow. Stem

cells are wild. They can go anywhere

and do whatever they want.

The second part with stem cells is that you’re not identifying the

environment. You’re not considering the whole system. So it’s similar if

you were to take a rose. You grow a rosebush and you take that and

plant it in the Sahara Desert. Now you have a perfectly healthy

rosebush, which would be synonymous with the stem cells, but the

environment is not hospitable in the Sahara to maintain a healthy life

for a rosebush, so it’s going to die. So that’s my other issue with stem

cells.

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“Sometimes the

bleeding is just so

bad it’s an

emergency

situation, and the

blood coagulating in

the eye can cause

damage.”

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If you have an environment that’s low oxygen, low blood flow, and toxic

accumulation, the stem cells aren’t going to live that long.

Martin Sussman: So that’s the future. What’s more common now are things like Avastin®

and Lucentis®, the injections that people get. Some people say, they

haven’t really helped me, I’ve been getting them for a year. Other

people say, it sort of helped a little, but not really and I’ve got a

detached retina. Can we do acupuncture and other holistic healing

while we’re getting the injections, or the series of injections?

Speak to the injections and the drugs and what to expect from that:

when to do it, when not to, and holistic healing things along the way.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Again, injections. If you have an emergency situation where you have a

retinal bleed, you’ve got to go to your ophthalmologist and get it taken

care of. It’s an emergency situation that needs medical attention, or

emergency medical attention. Once the emergency has been

controlled, you can absolutely use integrative therapies. That means

using Western Medicine and Alternative Medicine, things like

acupuncture to help control it and help improve the overall structure of

the blood vessels and improve the integrity of the blood vessels so they

don’t break anymore, so you don’t have any more risk of bleeding.

To the people who have had injections for a year without any

improvement, I find that interesting, to say the least. If they’re not

working, I can’t really see why an ophthalmologist would continue to

recommend them. I just don’t understand. That doesn’t make sense to

me, other than just being protocol.

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If they’re not working, there’s no reason to continue. A lot of doctors are

now just doing it routine. If there’s no bleeding and there’s no fluid

accumulation, there’s no need for them. That’s my position.

Martin Sussman: I mean, in the face of them not being able to do anything, I guess they

grab for whatever, something that they can do just so it looks like

they’re doing something if it’s at all possible, right?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Yes. Which is reasonable. But if it’s not working, then why continue?

Martin Sussman: Let’s switch gears for a second. How can acupuncture help glaucoma?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Again, like Macular Degeneration, if you catch glaucoma in very early

stages – I have a couple of family members with early stage who were

diagnosed with glaucoma, and a couple of patients – in my experience,

you can completely reverse it. In the early stages you start to see some

cupping as the pressure starts to increase. You can reverse it. Not in all

cases, but you can in some cases completely reverse that, and I’ve seen

it. It’s pretty wild.

Unfortunately, most patients that I see with glaucoma come after

they’ve been on drops for a while, or they’ve had some surgeries, and

there is some progressive vision loss. Once people are on meds, it’s very

difficult to get people off meds using acupuncture to lower the eye

pressure. It can be done about 50% of the time, but the body becomes

so dependent on the meds that you can’t reduce them. Get people to

take maybe eye drops a couple of times a week as opposed to a couple

of times a day. But completely getting off the eye drops to regulate the

pressure, it’s pretty difficult to do that.

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On the other hand, the eye drops won’t necessarily do anything to

protect the integrity of the optic nerve. Things like oxidative stress, low

oxygen and inflammation, and all these other neurodegenerative

factors, can contribute to the optic nerve losing function and

degenerating, and acupuncture is probably one of the best things we

can do – in addition to the right nutrition – just to help activate and to

stimulate the optic nerve and to keep it healthy and functioning.

I have a lot of glaucoma patients

and we’ve been able to recover

some vision. We’ve gotten people

to reduce their medications. In early

stages we’ve kept people off

medications, from needing

medications, from needing

surgeries.

There is a lot that is being done, or

can be done, conventionally. That’s

definitely more of an integrative

approach where you’re going to see

a combination of alternative

therapies with conventional

therapies as opposed to like dry Macular Degeneration where there’s

nothing conventional medicine can offer. So it’s going to be more

nutrition and holistic therapies.

Martin Sussman: Along that line, there are a lot of people with individual difficulties.

Myopic degeneration, which is different than Macular Degeneration.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Right.

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“Again, like Macular

Degeneration,

if you catch

glaucoma in very

early stages....

You can completely

reverse it....

I’ve seen it.”

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Martin Sussman: People want to know, Can it help with nearsightedness? Can it help

with hemorrhaging in the eyes? Can it help with a detachment? A

whole range of things like that. So, without getting into too much

detail, because these are special cases, including like the macular pucker

and things like that, could you speak to all the other conditions kind of

as one group. And, by the way, include floaters in that.

Dr. Rosenfarb: To answer that, let’s step back for a minute. Again, just recalling in

Chinese Medicine – and actually Naturopathic Medicine and functional

medicine as well – that we’re really looking at two situations here.

You’re looking at the symptoms, which are the glaucoma, the Macular

Degeneration, the macular holes, the macular puckers, cataracts,

whatever eye condition you have, as being the branch, or the

symptoms. Then you have the other side, which is the underlying cause,

or the causative factors, or the root of the problem.

What we do with Chinese Medicine and Naturopathic Medicine and

functional medicine, what we do is really try to look at the underlying

causes. So it almost doesn’t matter what the condition is as long as

there’s some function left. What I tell my patients is as long as you have

light perception, there is some hope. That’s not a guarantee. It just

means that the nerve fibers are still firing, so there’s some

photoreceptors working in picking up light. As long as that’s going on,

there’s hope.

What we do is use some acupuncture points and acupressure and other

techniques to help directly increase the blood flow to the eyes, which is

the branch treatment, or dealing with the symptoms.

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You’re dealing with high myopia, or floaters. But we also want to find

out what is causing the floaters? Is there too much protein in the body?

Are you dehydrated? Are medications causing the floaters? Are you

straining your eyes and overusing them? Does the body have a

problem breaking protein down? Is there protein that’s coagulating

that’s causing the floaters? Again, we really need to look at the

underlying factors that are causing these conditions in addition to the

symptoms of the diseases themselves.

It’s really a combination of dealing with both of those at the same time.

That’s where Western Medicine really falls short. They really just deal

with the symptoms and they’re putting on a Band-Aid. You can get

things like LASIK, which is fantastic to correct your vision in some cases,

or drop your eye pressure. Or get an Avastin® injection to stop your

bleeding. But we really, really, really need practitioners who are going

to do this integrative part and really step back and look systemically at

what’s going on with your body and your system, and what’s causing

this stuff. As a result of that you get a really good understanding of

what’s going on. So, yes, most conditions will respond if the underlying

situation, or conditions, are understood and managed.

Martin Sussman: You need that kind of individual attention, but then it gets back to the

same thing we’ve been talking about, which is the difference between

curing a problem and promoting the health of the body in the best,

deepest and complete way possible, which also includes the health of

the eyes.

Increasing blood flow, increasing the detoxification process, nourishing

with vitamins, minerals and antioxidants that are necessary, getting the

energy flow, the Chi flow, moving through all parts of the body the way

it’s supposed to. I mean, these will promote health and then the

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different symptoms of different kinds of disease and dysfunction will

lessen, stabilize and, hopefully, and disappear.

But no matter how many times we say that, no matter how many times

we make that differentiation, people come to me and say, I have this

problem, can you fix it? So, even though they’re looking for a holistic

approach to fix the problem, they’re not looking for a holistic approach

to promote their health. Conventional medicine is a way of thinking as

well as a line of products on the drugstore shelf and we’re trying to

counter that way of thinking.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Yes, I totally agree with you, and I think that’s really just a consequence

of over the past 50 to 100 years that we’ve been sold this concept,

especially in our culture, of the magic bullet – that you can take a pill

and cure disease. Or you can do something. It really boils down to

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HIDDEN TRUTH ABOUT VISION PROBLEMS

ALL degenerative eye conditions (like Macular Degeneration & cataracts) are SYSTEMIC CONDITIONS.

Although there is no conventional treatment for many eye conditions (no drugs or surgery), there are alternative treatment options.

Each case is unique where the “whole” - the whole body and the whole person - must be considered in relationship to the eye condition.

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accountability and making lifestyle changes. Gosh, you mention diet to

somebody. You know, change your diet. People will take all the

supplements in the world and they’ll get acupuncture, get massage and

do yoga, but, boy, you tell them to change their diet.... That’s real

important, especially to eye conditions.

Martin Sussman: A lot of people contacted both of us about where they can find an

acupuncturist in their area? Do they have to be specifically trained in

this vision specialty? Do they accept health insurance? How do we find

out what the resources are? We even had some comments and

questions from acupuncturists themselves who asked, Can you teach us

this stuff?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Yes. Well, with the acupuncture, let me go back to my story. When I

started treating eye stuff, the problem was, I had two pages of notes

from four years of acupuncture school. I think we had one one-hour

lecture on treating eye disease. There wasn’t much in the textbooks.

There wasn’t much taught to me. So how I started learning it was just

trying to find anybody I could, any acupuncturist. I went to China. I

went to Denmark. I went to Mexico. I went to Canada. Just to find

anybody who had any experience in treating eye stuff. And I was pretty

successful. And then I built my own clinical observations and came up

with pattern differentiations and Chinese Medicine.

As a result of that, I wrote my two books. So we do have these ideas and

protocols available for acupuncturists now, and the books are being

used in school, so there’s something for students and practitioners. The

books are a resource.

For acupuncturists, I also have online courses through a company called

Rootdown. That’s www.rootdown.us. We have courses in Traditional

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Chinese Medicine Ophthalmology taught by myself and Mark

Grossman, who’s an acupuncturist and optometrist. He’s a holistic

optometrist. We go around and teach a lot together. So those are

available online to practitioners. I get questions constantly. Always

happy to help practitioners out.

I haven’t been teaching live recently because I have young kids at home

and I’ve taken a little hiatus, but I will be going back on the road soon.

Usually we try to get out two to three times a year at least.

But I have acupuncturists call, ask

questions. For patients looking for

acupuncturists, there are very few

people learned in Micro

Acupuncture. Again, there’s just not

as big an interest for acupuncturists

to specialize in treating eyes. I’m not

really sure why. Probably because it

wasn’t taught very much and it’s not

in really high demand as opposed to

things like infertility and pain, but there’s a growing demand for it. What

I’d recommend is you ask your acupuncturist, Have you had any

experience with this condition? Talk to them about your condition.

You don’t have to like throw them up against the wall and drill them

hardcore, but they should have some familiarity with glaucoma. What is

high eye pressure? What happens? What’s the pathology? What kind of

clinical results have they had? Same with Macular Degeneration, or any

other condition. It’s always good to go to somebody who’s at least had

a little experience.

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“What we do

is really try

to look

at the underlying

causes.”

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Again, back to the Micro Acupuncture. There are a few of us. I do it.

There’s Gail Brent and Dave Russell in California. Southern, northern

California. There’s Ida Scharf in Israel. There’s Alan Jansen in Australia.

And a few others who are doing it as well.

Martin Sussman: In regards to that, a couple of things. Number one, so there’s a handful

of acupuncturists around the world. What does somebody do if they’re

not close enough to one of them? Or can’t afford it because their health

insurance doesn’t pay for it and they can’t go through the number of

treatments that are normally recommended?

In that case, in addition to the nutrient stuff and the other things we’ve

talked about, is the next best thing to get one of your books and do the

acupressure on themselves every day?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Or have an acupuncturist do one of the online courses. I’ve taught

hundreds of acupuncturists over the years, so there are many familiar

with my stuff.

Now we have the book. All you have to have is an acupuncturist who

knows how to do acupuncture. They’ve got to get my book, and then

have them email me or call me with a couple of questions about the

case.

Martin Sussman: So rather than trying to understand it all themselves, if the

acupuncturist is already skilled and knowledgeable, looks at your book,

they’ll understand what to do and, if not, they can always get hold of

you.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Right. And, like you said, acupressure also is fantastic.

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Martin Sussman: Okay. Let’s go to cataracts. There are lots of questions on cataracts.

People want to know if they can be stopped, if they can be reversed, if

they can avoid surgery. What have you seen in terms of controlling

cataracts?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Cataracts usually come along with other conditions. A lot of patients I

see don’t have just Macular Degeneration, or just glaucoma, or just

cataracts. It’s usually a combination of eye issues.

Early cataracts, or baby cataracts as

doctors call them, are potentially

reversible, and you can rehydrate the

lens and stop the oxidative stress and

the cross-linking. You can definitely

recover that. I’ve seen it done often.

Once you get to pretty serious vision

loss, or later stage cataracts, unless you

have a risk factor like wet Macular

Degeneration, or you have Diabetic

Retinopathy where you have a risk of

bleeding or exacerbating your

condition, cataract surgery is not

necessarily a bad idea. I’m not really

too big on surgeries, but cataract surgery they have down pretty good.

It’s like they’re going to replace your lens and you have dirty windows.

Basically replacing your dirty windows with clean windows.

Again, if it’s late stage and really impacting your life and you can’t see,

and you’re getting the glare and the fogginess and the blurriness, it

might be something to consider. But earlier stages, you can definitely

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“But earlier stages,

you can definitely

take

supplementation,

do acupuncture,

do things

like microcurrent,

which is fantastic for

early stage

cataracts.“

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take supplementation, do acupuncture, do things like microcurrent,

which is fantastic for early stage cataracts. Things like the EYEMAX-plus

formula.

Martin Sussman: That’s one of the unfortunate things and, again, it has to do with the

holistic approach versus the conventional approach. So many people

wait so long. Unfortunately, when they wait so long you end up with

bigger problems and then the problems are much more difficult to

respond to the holistic approach. So we certainly recommend that

people get regular examinations with their doctor because the sooner

you find out that something’s out of whack, the much more success you

can have in dealing with it on a holistic level.

And, as you say, most times you can’t separate one eye problem from

another so you see lots of people with cataracts who may be at risk for

Macular Degeneration, who may be at risk for a high degree of

nearsightedness and detached retina, and so on and so forth. They all

kind of go together because they’re all coming out of the same root –

an imbalanced and starving visual system.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Absolutely.

Martin Sussman: You mentioned drops of castor oil. Be more specific if you could on the

exact instructions on how to do that. How often? How many drops, so

on and so forth.

Dr. Rosenfarb: There are lots of different drops. I find that castor oil works pretty well.

It’s cheap and it works and people who are having financial issues don’t

have to spend a lot of money.

Martin Sussman: How many drops?

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Dr. Rosenfarb: You go to the health food store, or CVS, or any of the drugstores, you get

castor oil, you get an eye dropper. And the reason we do it before bed is

because castor oil is very thick. You’ll actually have blurry vision for up

to an hour after you do it. That’s why you want to do it before you go to

bed, because your vision is going to be blurry.

You take one drop, hold your eye open, and you drop it in. Do the other

eye. Even if you only have dry eyes in one eye, it’s a good idea to do

both. Or you have a cataract in one eye, it’s a good idea to do both.

Martin Sussman: This is good for dry eyes, too?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Castor oil is great for dry eyes. Not

only can you put a drop on the

inside, but you can take the castor

oil and just massage it around the

eyes. Of course, we want to look at

the underlying causes, but in terms

of dealing with the symptoms, I’ve

had people within a week – after

years and years and years of dry

eyes – just by doing that, they

totally reverse it.

Martin Sussman: There probably isn’t any traditional, conventional research study on this,

but where does this come from?

Dr. Rosenfarb: It’s more naturopathic trial-and-error. I haven’t been able to locate the

exact source. I do know that in Japan they’re using sesame oil. I had

some problems with sesame oil and some patients were stinging. Then

we tried olive oil and wheat germ oil. Those were stinging, too. Castor

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“Castor oil is great

for dry eyes.... I’ve

had people within a

week – after years

and years and years

of dry eyes – just by

doing that, they

totally reverse it.“

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oil seems to have a lot of healing properties to it and doesn’t burn or

sting the eye. That’s why I like it a little bit better.

Martin Sussman: Some more questions from people. I heard about white onion juice, or I

heard about raw organic honey and lemon juice mixture. Somebody

says, I heard that drinking coconut water is good for balancing the

electrolyte loss that’s connected to cataracts. Then there’s homeopathic

eye drops. And other things that people talk about dropping in their

eyes. What do you have to say about all those other things?

Dr. Rosenfarb: I’ve probably heard of just about everything. I’ve had people put

everything from your basic saline to apple cider vinegar, to onion, to

ozonated water, to hydrogen peroxide, to cayenne pepper. There are

some great things. It’s your eyes, so I want to go with something that’s

not as dramatic. I tell people if they want to play around, go with milder

things. Go with the homeopathics. Anything that has some amino

acids is really going to irritate your eyes or anything that’s home

brewed. At least get something you know. If you’re going to try

colloidal silver, or you’re going to try MSM (methylsulfonylmethane)

don’t brew it at home. Find a company that makes it.

If you want, you can try, but with a lot of these things you don’t know

the proportion, and it’s hard to control that stuff. We’re not all that good

with chemistry and titrating and stuff like that. So I’d be careful with

anything that’s really out there, unless you’re real confident that you’ve

had some experience with it, or you know somebody who’s had a really

good experience with it.

But putting lemon juice in your eyes, something that is that acidic, it

seems too irritating for me. We don’t want to irritate the eyes too much.

They’re very sensitive.

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Martin Sussman: Right. So you feel good about the castor oil, making that

recommendation and having people follow that.

Dr. Rosenfarb: It’s safe.

Martin Sussman: Yes.

Dr. Rosenfarb: I like safe.

Martin Sussman: Safe and effective is a good combination.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Safe and effective. Yes. Do no harm first, and then if you know it’s going

to help. But you really have to follow that do no harm first, and proceed

with caution.

Martin Sussman: So, basically, what we’re having here is a list of things to do for cataracts

and dry eyes. One is hydrate. The other is castor oil. The third is

nutritional supplementation. The fourth has something to do with diet.

Can you just give three keys in terms of diet.

Dr. Rosenfarb: You have to identify food allergies. That’s really important. The reason is

that food allergies cause inflammation in the sinus cavities. They cause

neuroinflammation. So any environmental, chemical, food allergy,

you’ve got to figure that out. Because any chronic inflammation

anywhere in the body, especially in the head area, is going to dry the

eyes out.

Obviously, you’ve got to watch your medicines. Steroids. We all know

whether you take them orally or for a cold, or you have a bronchial

infection, or you have joint pain. Steroids will cause cataracts. We

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talked about hydration. Coconut water – somebody made that

suggestion – is fantastic for balancing the electrolytes.

But the other important thing I was getting to is there are always

inflammatory components – almost always – when you’re dealing with

cataracts. So you need to have somebody help you identify those.

Whether it’s a practitioner, or if you’re intuitive enough, or you have

enough time to research and look at your own system. But you have to

look at these hydration factors and these inflammatory factors and

what’s causing them.

Go to a health practitioner. Read a

couple books. Try to educate

yourself about what’s going on with

your body.

Martin Sussman: In that regard, as inflammation is so

important, there are lots of books

and what not on the anti-

inflammatory diet. People should

lean towards that?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Absolutely. There’s an anti-inflammatory diet, but there are also

specifics. That means you need to be accountable. You need to watch

your diet. If there’s something that gives you a burning stomach, it’s

causing inflammation in your body. If you’ve got food allergies, if you

start to get a runny nose after you eat something, any of those. Again,

watch your meds. A lot of people are taking a lot of medication. You

have to look at the meds and what the side effects are.

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“You have to identify

food allergies. That’s

really important.

The reason is that

food allergies

cause inflammation

in the sinus cavities.”

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Martin Sussman: Let’s talk a little bit more about the nutritional supplementation end of

things. Anti-inflammatory. Diet. Everything we just mentioned for

cataracts. Is there anything that you would add or change for Macular

Degeneration, or glaucoma, or any of the other kinds of problems?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Yes. With Macular Degeneration, I remember somebody said, Do you

see a common cause? Is there a common diagnosis? Underlying

diagnosis? And the answer to that is yes. With Macular Degeneration, I

definitely see what we call in conventional medicine cardiovascular

disease. I see that. It’s just astronomical the amount of people that have

Macular Degeneration and have either some form of heart disease, or

cardiovascular disease, or a family history of it. So, things like cutting

out red meat, eggs, dairy, anything that’s going to cause an increase of

cholesterol – because that’s going to increase drusen production, that’s

where drusen comes from, and cause inflammation – should be taken

out of the diet in addition to any known food allergies or suspected

food allergies or sensitivities.

The same thing goes for glaucoma, because anything that causes

inflammation may increase the eye pressure. Any food allergies, or

anything that’s going to congest the body. Watch sugar, caffeine, any

stimulants. Those are really important, too. Refined sugars. The biggest

for me is really trans fats. Trans fats are plastic fats that clog up the liver.

Just don’t eat them.

Martin Sussman: You and I know what trans fats are, but put it into everyday language.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Yes. Trans fats are your cakes, your cupcakes, your donuts. Any of your

pastries. Your brownies. Salad dressings, most of your condiments,

have trans fats.

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Martin Sussman: They don’t say trans fats on the label. What they say is hydrogenated

oils.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Hydrogenated oils, or vegetable oil, is a trans fat. Margarine. Anything

that melts at room temperature has a trans fat.

Martin Sussman: Those are the things to look for on the label?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Yes.

Martin Sussman: Okay. People say, well, I’m already

taking this supplement, or that

supplement, should I change what

I’m doing? Or, what are the top two

or three supplements that I should

be taking for my eyes?

I know that my approach isn’t just

about the top two or three, it’s

about a full complement not only of

the different vitamins and essential

minerals, but also of the

antioxidants that make up what the

eyes and the body need for

maximum health.

But most doctors, they’ve been bombarded with advertising, so really

all they know is PreserVision®, or Macu-Vision®, or OcuGuard®, or

Centrum®, or something like that.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Yes, Centrum Silver.

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“It’s just

astronomical the

amount of people

that have Macular

Degeneration and

have either some

form of heart

disease, or

cardiovascular

disease, or a family

history of it.“

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Martin Sussman: Can you speak to those kinds of things in comparison to something like

EYEMAX-plus?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Honestly, your formula is one of the most complete formulas I’ve seen.

For anybody with eye diseases, that definitely should be your

multivitamin.

Optimally, you should go to somebody who does holistic medicine to

find out the underlying causes, which supplements for you would be

better. Because again, we have our nutrients that are good for the eyes,

but we also want to add to the nutrition and supplementation to

address the underlying causes. For example, if you have cardiovascular

disease. Do you have neuroinflammation? Do you have food allergies?

Do you have liver toxicity? Do you have weak kidneys? If you have low

blood pressure, then you’re not getting enough blood up to your head

and eyes that goes along with adrenal fatigue and hypoglycemia.

You really want to look at some of these underlying causes. Generally,

for eye health, though, something like the EYEMAX-plus. There’s a lot of

talk of fish oils. I actually like krill oil a little bit better because it’s really

high in something called astaxanthin, which is a carotenoid. Zeaxanthin

and lutein are specific nutrients that have been researched and shown

to be beneficial for the macula. Krill oil has astaxanthin in it, which

currently seems to be the highest potency of that nutrient. So that’s a

definite with that.

Martin Sussman: We also have a product called Ocu-Omega, which is not only the fish

oils, but they’re made from krill oil and also have lutein and zeaxanthin.

We also sell Bilberry and Ginkgo because I think those are important.

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How many antioxidants do you need in your body? In other words, we

know that lutein, there’s a high concentration of lutein in the eyes more

so than anywhere else in the body. But if you’re getting lutein, do you

also need to get some of the other antioxidants, the older ones – not

just the latest new kid on the block?

Some of this stuff can get very, very confusing for people. You know, do

I just add this because it’s been in the news? Do I take this just because

my doctor told me? Do I take that because it has more things in it?

Some people don’t know how to make that decision.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Well, you can actually overdo it on antioxidants, and a lot of people

aren’t clear about this. Oxidation is the key to healthy living. Oxidation

is how our cells produce, how our body produces energy. We basically

burn glucose in a process called oxidation. That’s how we actually can

function. If there was no oxidation, we wouldn’t be alive. So it’s really

about having a balance and not letting the oxidative stress and the free

radicals get out of control. They’ve been out of control because of our

poor diets, high stress, and the environmental pollution. Again, the lack

of nutrition. A lot of our lifestyle habits – the computers and the

electromagnetic frequencies.

We do want antioxidants, but from a Chinese medical standpoint and in

naturopathic, we don’t necessarily look at all antioxidants as the same.

For example, you have something like green tea, which we all know was

one of the first big things – the antioxidants in green tea. Everybody

should be drinking green tea. No. Green tea will drop your blood sugar.

It’ll drop your cholesterol. It’ll dehydrate you. If you’re overweight with

high cholesterol and pre-diabetic, green tea is fantastic. If you’re thin,

run dehydrated, have low blood sugar and on the lean side, green tea is

not good for you. It’s going to drop your blood sugar. It’s going to

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dehydrate you more than you probably already are. There’s so much

caffeine you’re going to feel like you’re on speed. So it’s not necessarily

good for you.

In addition to the fact that there are antioxidants, we need to look at the

quality of antioxidants. For somebody like that, maybe fish oils or

something else that has a different type of oil, or a sugar, those

antioxidants may be more beneficial.

Another example is vitamin A. There was a big research study that

showed that if you’re a smoker and

you take vitamin A, there’s actually

an increased risk of developing lung

cancer. So even though you’ve got

people who are taking vitamin A, if

you’re a smoker... It’s just some

research. It’s not definite. But that’s

something you want to think about.

In addition to taking antioxidants,

we need to look at what each

nutrient is doing to the body and

how it works. Does it work on the liver? Does it work on the kidneys?

Does it work on your metabolism? That’s important, too.

What I like about your formula, Marty, is it really covers a broad

spectrum. So if there are any effects of any antioxidants, they’re going

to be neutralized with all the minerals and everything like that. If you

have an antioxidant that’s going to be a little bit dehydrating, you have

a lot of magnesium and potassium, and these minerals will help the

body to maintain the electrolyte balance.

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“Oxidation is the key

to healthy living.

Oxidation is how our

cells produce,

how our body

produces energy.”

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But I have patients, and I’m sure you’ve heard of people too, who are just

loading up on certain nutrients because they read an article that it was

good for them. And that may not be the case.

Martin Sussman: In the original teleclass you mentioned ox bile, and a traditional TCM

approach to eye problems. Can you talk about not only that, but are

there other herbs – ox bile, I’m not sure. It’s not an herb, obviously – but

other approaches of Traditional Chinese Medicine.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Yes. This is actually really an interesting little bit. Thousands of years

ago in Chinese Medicine, black bear gallbladder was actually used to

treat eye conditions, ocular inflammatory conditions, and others.

Obviously, they outlawed poaching. There are laws against it, which

there should be.

What they did is they found that – okay, well we can’t poach anymore –

but let’s take the gallbladder and look at what’s going on. What are the

constituents in here? Maybe we could isolate them and identify them,

and create them synthetically, or get them from a plant source or

something like that.

So they did. They isolated the components from the bile and they

found that there was specific bile salts that were very, very high in bears

and oxen and cows that were not present in humans, just basically

because of diet and stuff like that.

They knew that the stuff worked really well for eye diseases, and also for

other central nervous system and brain conditions. So they derived this

product called UDCA. I’m not even going to try to go through the Latin

right now. The problem with that, it’s basically a conjugated bile salt

that they extracted. They found that it worked well, but it was very

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tough to digest. So what they did is they added a taurine molecule to it,

or part of a supplement of taurine, which is an amino acid. That made it

a lot easier to digest and it helped. So they started using TUDCA and

UDCA to treat gallbladder disease. Very, very effective. People didn’t

need to get their gallbladders taken out.

It’s probably the most widely researched supplement right now for

conditions like glaucoma and Retinitis Pigmentosa. Also dementia,

Alzheimer’s. It’s amazing. I mean, the research on this stuff is really

compelling.

Now, interestingly, you can’t get it anywhere in the world. I mean, there

was one company in the world that was selling it to help liver detox.

The company is not selling it anymore. I called at least 20

manufacturers. They’re not distributing it. Can’t get it anymore. They’re

doing tons of research. A lot of underground research on it and,

eventually, I think there’s going to be a lot of promise with that.

We know that there are a lot of the similarities in the TUDCA and the bile

salts in ox bile. Bile is an enormously huge antioxidant. As we age, the

body’s bile production decreases, and that means an inability to break

down fat, that’s what bile does. It does a lot of other things, but

primarily breaks fat down in the body.

So, by increasing your bile, or thinning the bile out, you’re going to have

this antioxidant, you’re going to start to break down the fat and increase

your lean body mass. You’re also going to be able to use the ox bile to

break down drusen, which we talked about, which is one of the major

causes of Macular Degeneration. So you have a substance in your body

that’s actually going to help break the fat down. It emulsifies fats.

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This is something that’s very useful. What I do is I usually have people

take one or two a day with a meal, and that’s it. Adding that bile to the

body will help.

The thing you have to watch out for is it can give you some diarrhea and

loose stool, some burning stool bowel movements. If you have a

problem, don’t take it. Just don’t tough through it or anything like that,

it’s not going to help you. People who do take it, within months, see a

difference just taking it.

I had a lot of patients on it for a while, then, again, the company went

upside down and we can’t get it

anymore. But I saw some really

amazing stuff. But, again, the ox bile

you can get online. You can get it

anywhere. So that I do recommend.

Especially if you have any type of

ocular inflammatory conditions, or

Macular Degeneration, or glaucoma.

A lot of people, especially as we age,

as I said, have decreased production

of bile and a decreased ability to break fats down. Indicators of that is

your cholesterol going up, your triglycerides are going up. Your body fat

going up. You tend towards constipation. You eat fatty foods. You can’t

digest them. You get indigestion. Greasy foods. These are all indicators

that you may benefit from taking ox bile supplement.

Martin Sussman: The other thing that’s been in the news lately has been the acid/alkaline

pH balance dichotomy as being another factor, like the inflammatory

issue, in terms of health. Do you have anything to say about that?

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“Coconut water is

fantastic for

balancing the

electrolytes.“

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Dr. Rosenfarb: Absolutely. Generally, we run acidic. We’re more stressed out than we

used to be. Our diets are pretty poor. High in sugar. High in caffeine.

High in refined foods. So most of us are running pretty acidic – unless

we’re really watching it and juicing and having green drinks and salads.

We can check our acid levels – and, again, I don’t want to get too into

this – you can find tons of research online. If you go to Amazon or

Google, there’s tons of books that tell you. But, basically, what you want

to do is check your saliva pH and your urine pH on a daily basis for a

week or two, chart it, and then compare it to the optimal ranges for your

saliva and your urine acid.

You’re either going to be acidic, alkaline, or normal. If you’re alkaline,

then you need to acidify a little bit. Which happens, and people get

diseases as a result of that. Most of us are going to be hyper acidic and,

again, we want to find the cause of it. You can change your diet all you

want. If you’re a high-stress person, stress causes acid production in the

body. So you can change your diet, you can eat healthy and meditate

and do all the exercises you want, but if you stress out all the time, you

will be acidic. Because, again, stress causes acid production. You really

want to monitor that and get a hold on it.

Acid breaks down structure. Just think of the hydrochloric acid in the

stomach. We use that to break food down. If our blood becomes too

acidic and our tissues and the intercellular fluids between our cells

become too acidic, we’re going to start to break down. That’s what

happens when cells die. We become acidic and break down.

Decompose.

If you do find that you’re acidic, one of my favorite things to deal with

acid conditions is just having a green drink every day, in addition to

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reducing caffeine, sugar, alcohol. Anything like that. Smoking obviously

causes acidity. A green drink in the morning every day is fantastic. Like

chlorella or spirulina – that’s your blue green algae. Any health food

store has a green powder drink. The greens are high in calcium and

calcium is very alkalizing to the body.

Martin Sussman: A couple of other things. There are eye drops for cataracts. Ones that

were developed by a Russian scientist. Are you familiar with those?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Are you talking about the Can-C?

Martin Sussman: Yes, the Can-C.

Dr. Rosenfarb: I have had some patients report

spectacular results with them. And

I’ve had other patients who’ve had no

results with them. I know there may

be some issues with the carnosine

clogging up some of the protein

receptor sites in the body, and it can

have some interactions with that. I

don’t know too much about it.

My experience is just that I’ve had some patients who’ve used it. I’ve

had patients get really, really good results. In theory, it makes sense.

But a lot of things in theory make a lot of sense.

I’m kind of on the fence. I don’t tell people not to try it if they ask me

about it because I have seen some cases benefit from it. I’ve never really

seen any harm come from it personally. But I have seen both sides. I’ve

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“If you stress out

all the time,

you will be acidic.

Because, again,

stress causes acid

production.“

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seen it not work at all and I’ve seen it do great things for some people.

How about you?

Martin Sussman: Well, I stopped recommending them years ago when I read that they

actually interfere with the body’s absorption of antioxidants, particularly

lutein – actually – any antioxidant. Now they seem to be backing off

that statement. So I’m not sure what the reality is in terms of how it

affects the body, and maybe it does it differently for different people. I

don’t know for sure, but if I look at the research they’ve done, and the

kinds of results that people get, they’re pretty comparable if even less

than what Dr. Gary Price Todd – the ophthalmologist who became an

expert on nutritional healing and developed the EYEMAX-plus formula –

talked about in his approach of what to do for cataracts.

Again, it’s the kind of thing where it looks like it’s pretty neat because it’s

a “drug,” even though it’s not literally a drug. It’s a particular treatment

for a particular problem. But I don’t know if it really helps holistically in

terms of the whole body’s health.

One more thing. Microcurrent treatment or the use of the microcurrent

device. Have you had experience with that and, if so, when do you

recommend it?

Dr. Rosenfarb: I’ll tell you my experience with it. I think microcurrent is fantastic. As

some people know, the use of microcurrent started, I believe, in the ’80s

with a woman named Grace Halloran, who was having Macular

Degeneration issues, and she started using microcurrent and was able

to recover a lot of her vision.

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Microcurrent is an electrical impulse. She was using this electrical

impulse on specific acupuncture points around her eyes, which, again,

those are diagrammed in my book.

What happened is she got great results and started teaching. I actually

had a couple of patients who had gone to her seminars years and years

ago and they had tremendous benefits.

So down the line what happened is

people said, let’s try to simplify it,

and let’s try to create something

that covers all the points at once.

So they had the microcurrent with

the water, and then there were

other types of microcurrent that

came out.

But the whole idea was you’re still

going over the eyes and covering

these acupuncture points and

trying to deliver an electro microcurrent to stimulate the ATP

[Adenosine-5-triphosphate] production in the eyes to help with the

inflammation, to help with the nerve conduction, and to help get the

drusen membrane to break the drusen down in the eyes. The research

has been pretty good.

Personally, I saw clinically that when people do point-by-point, they

isolate the acupuncture points with the microcurrent and the results are

typically much better than if you do the whole eye at once with all the

points. I actually got to a point where I would stop it. I hadn’t

recommended microcurrent anymore just because I didn’t have enough

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“Microcurrent is not

a treatment for

Macular

Degeneration.

It’s management.

It helps the blood

flow to the eyes.”

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people seeing such a dramatic result. Then I went back to Grace’s

original protocol where you’re doing point-by-point stimulation around

the eyes with microcurrent and the results were much better.

There’s a lot about frequency specific microcurrent and stuff like that,

but I just don’t know that much about it, if it is that much better or not. I

don’t really have an opinion because I haven’t really seen clinical results

with frequency specific and nonspecific – you know, different

frequencies for different eye conditions. Could be better, could be

worse. But, based on my experience, I do think that doing point-by-

point around the eyes does seem to work better, at least for my patients,

what they’ve told me.

Generally, you want to spend about 20 minutes a day doing these

treatments and you don’t want to feel the microcurrent, and this goes

with any of them, people just have this innate thing where they feel like

they have to feel it. And the thing with microcurrent is you’re not

supposed to feel it. It’s not like a TENS unit [trans electrical nerve

stimulation] where you’re trying to get rid of back pain or something

like that and you’re supposed to turn up the microcurrent until you feel

it, and then back it down a notch so you don’t feel it. You’re not

supposed to perceive the current. That’s why it’s called microcurrent.

That’s a really important thing that I’ve seen with a lot of people, even

though they’ve been instructed to just leave it on microcurrent, they’ll

nudge it up to a millicurrent where they’re actually feeling it. That’s just

something I find a lot of people do, and it’s really important – less is

more in this type of situation.

Martin Sussman: Many of these devices are FDA okayed, but they’re not okayed for eye

problems. What do you call that?

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Dr. Rosenfarb: Off label.

Martin Sussman: Right. Off label use. Could you comment on that aspect of it, because

I’m sure that people who hear us talking are going to go out on the

Internet and search around and they’re going to discover that the

creators of some of these machines, specifically say, that you may have

heard that you can use it for eye problems, but that’s not what the FDA

has approved it for.

Dr. Rosenfarb: The intended use.

Martin Sussman: Right. Could you speak to that?

Dr. Rosenfarb: Again, go online, you’ll see you can get a microcurrent device from $30

to $3,000. I don’t think getting the cheapest thing out there is

necessarily the best idea, but I would definitely go with somebody who

either talked to me or somebody else who’s had experience. I know

there are a few other doctors around the country who do use

microcurrent a lot, and we definitely suggest people talk to them.

It is an off label use, but I’ve had enough patients that have come back

to me to say that they’ve had a benefit. This is not a treatment for

Macular Degeneration. It’s management. It helps the blood flow to the

eyes. And when you keep up the blood flow and the oxygen, the

circulation, the detoxification, it’s going to help.

If you’re doing it – and I’ve had one or two patients, it didn’t work for

them, they actually thought their vision was getting worse after using

that – and anybody ever experiences that, stop using it right away. I

don’t know why or how, but there are definitely some cases that I’ve

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seen personally and I’ve heard of that will respond. And I know that

there’s a lot of literature out there that says it can’t do any harm, and it

doesn’t harm. I don’t think it could harm the eyes, but I think if you have

a lot of inflammation, or you’re sensitive to electricity, it can actually

make things worse and, if you use it

over time, you may do some damage.

I tell people, the second they see

anything that really dramatically

makes it worse, I usually don’t

recommend that they continue using

it. And I wouldn’t recommend that

anybody do anything that makes you

worse or inflamed.

I see that a lot, too. A lot of people

who have chronic ocular

inflammatory conditions need to be

particularly sensitive. Because when

you have inflammation, you already

have a pretty strong electrical charge

in that area of the body, in this case,

the eyes. Say you have uveitis or iritis and you use microcurrent, you

really could exacerbate it. So I’d be careful in those types of conditions.

Martin Sussman: That’s great detailed information. I think we’ve essentially gone through

the major themes of all the questions. You know, there were 287

questions and I tried to group them as much as possible. I’m sure that

there’ll be some people who feel like they didn’t get their question

answered, but, by in large, I think we’ve addressed pretty much

everything.

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“When the doctor

says, Look, you have

Macular

Degeneration and

there’s nothing

conventionally that

anybody else can do

for you. It’s not true.

Not necessarily true.

There are options.

There are things you

can do.“

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Again, I want to thank you for your time. Thank you for your knowledge,

particularly, and thank you for your willingness to share that with

people and to help them see better.

Dr. Rosenfarb: Oh, it’s my pleasure, Marty. This is such valuable information. It’s my life

passion. I know it’s your life passion. My duty, I feel, is just – we just –

have to bring this information to people so they know that there’s

something that they can do.

That when the doctor says to them, Look, you have Macular

Degeneration, or you have Retinitis Pigmentosa, and there’s nothing

conventionally that anybody else can do for you. It’s not true. Not

necessarily true. There are options. There are things you can do. And

we can’t rely on conventional doctors to get that information out there.

So I just love the work that you’re doing as well.

Martin Sussman: Thanks.

For More Information, Visit These Websites:

Martin Sussman

Cambridge Institute for Better Vision

www.BetterVision.com

Dr. Andy Rosenfarb

Acupuncture Health Associates

www.AcupunctureHealth.net

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