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A P P E A R A N C E S
The Sole Member: His Honour Judge Peter Smithwick
For the Tribunal: Mrs. Mary Laverty, SCMr. Justin Dillon, SCMr. Dara Hayes, BLMr. Fintan Valentine, BL
Instructed by: Jane McKevitt
Solicitor
For the Commissioner of An Garda Siochana: Mr. Diarmuid McGuinness, SC
Mr. Michael Durack, SCMr. Gareth Baker, BL
Instructed by: Mary CumminsCSSO
For Owen Corrigan: Mr. Jim O'Callaghan, SCMr. Darren Lehane, BL
Instructed by: Fintan Lawlor Lawlor Partners Solicitors
For Leo Colton: Mr. Paul Callan, SCMr. Eamon Coffey, BL
Instructed by: Dermot Lavery Solicitors
For Finbarr Hickey: Fionnuala O'Sullivan, BL
Instructed by: James MacGuill & Co.
For the Attorney General: Ms. Nuala Butler, SCMr. Douglas Clarke, SC
Instructed by: CSSO
For Freddie Scappaticci: Eavanna Fitzgerald, BLPauline O'Hare
Instructed by: Michael FlaniganSolicitor
For Kevin Fulton: Mr. Neil Rafferty, QC
Instructed by: John McAtamneySolicitor
For Breen Family: Mr. John McBurney
For Buchanan Family/Heather Currie: Ernie Waterworth
McCartan Turkington BreenSolicitors
For the PSNI: Mark Robinson, BL
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THE TRIBUNAL RESUMED ON THE 1ST AUGUST 2012 AS FOLLOWS:
MR. DILLON: Chairman, we have one witness for you today,
it's the continuing examination of Mr. Corrigan. Before we
deal with that, possibly we might be able to do a bit of
housekeeping in terms of availability. I have had a brief
conversation with Mr. O'Callaghan. It seems that
Mr. Corrigan would prefer if there weren't a sitting on
Friday, if he could have Friday to himself. That being the
case, the matters will resume at the end of August. Now,
one date which we had canvassed was the 27th of August, but
it's been drawn to my attention that that's a public
holiday in Northern Ireland. So it seems that on the 28th,
which is a Tuesday, we should be in a position to resume.
And I wonder if Mr. Robinson could let you know possibly at
this stage whether he'll be in a position to adduce the
evidence which he said he was going to offer to you in
relation to the question of the redactions of
Mr. McConville's evidence.
MR. ROBINSON: Yes, Mr. Chairman, that date was raised this
morning by your team. I'll certainly take instructions and
aim for that date, and, if I can get that confirmed, that
can be conveyed to your team.
CHAIRMAN: Yes, thank you very much, Mr. Robinson.
MR. DILLON: That being so then, hopefully we'll be able to
resume on the 28th and -- all going well, and, let us hope
for the last day, Mr. Corrigan will come back on the 29th
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-- yes, the 29th, which is a Wednesday, of August, and, as
I say, we will all hope that's the last day, but it may not
be; it all depends on how things work out.
CHAIRMAN: Would that be the 29th rather than the 28th?
MR. DILLON: The 28th might be better to devote to the
question of the evidence you will hear in relation to the
redactions.
CHAIRMAN: Will we need the full day for that, do you
think, Mr. Robinson?
MR. ROBINSON: Possibly a two-hour block, possibly.
MR. DILLON: What I might suggest, Chairman, is that you
hear the evidence, and then I think you'll want to consider
your decision, and if you are in a position to consider
your decision during the afternoon, you can deliver it the
following day, and that's in ease of Mr. Corrigan as well,
because he is entitled to know what the position is in
regard to that. And, in addition, the Tribunal may well
have made progress in relation to the recent intelligence
it has received, and again, in ease of Mr. Corrigan, it can
be dealt with on the 29th.
CHAIRMAN: Very good.
MR. ROBINSON: I certainly endorse that view.
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CHAIRMAN: There will be an alternative venue, it will not
be here, but we have been inquiring about an alternative
venue, and everybody will be notified where that is, and it
will have similar facilities to here. Thank you very much.
MR. ROBINSON: I am obliged.
MR. DILLON: In that case, if Mr. O'Callaghan would care to
continue.
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OWEN CORRIGAN CONTINUED TO BE CROSS-EXAMINED BY
MR. O'CALLAGHAN AS FOLLOWS:
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Thank you, Chairman.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, on the last day, we looked at the background 1
to the establishment of this Tribunal and your belief as to
what is the reason this Tribunal was established and what
led to its establishment, do you recall that?
A. I do, yes.
Q. What I want to do today is to start by looking briefly at 2
the 20th March 1989 the day the officers were murdered, and
then to look at the two pieces of evidence that are against
you; the only piece of evidence against you suggesting
collusion in the murders of Breen and Buchanan, that is the
evidence of Mr. Keeley and Mr. Hurst. Were you aware on
the 20th March 1989 that Chief Superintendent Breen and
Superintendent Buchanan were to come to Dundalk Station for
a meeting?
A. No, I was not, Mr. Chairman, I wasn't aware of that.
Q. And you are aware where you were when you heard that the 3
officers had been murdered, isn't that correct?
A. I was, yes.
Q. And you were asked by a number of counsel for the Tribunal 4
and others as to what you were doing before that, isn't
that so?
A. Yes.
Q. And in fairness to you, you say you can't remember? 5
A. That's right, because it was no ordinary day, like, to me,
and I would have been -- I was engaged on duties of a
routine matter, and, at the time that the word came in,
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there was a number of us in the Detective Branch office.
That was it.
Q. Are you aware that a number of other members of An Garda 6
Siochana and a civilian woman working for the Garda
Siochana, have also given evidence to the Chairman that
they couldn't remember what they were doing on the day of
the 20th March 1989?
A. Well, I am aware that they gave evidence, but I haven't
read their statements, or not aware of the contents, you
know.
Q. I just want to recount them to you for the record: Garda 7
Michael Johnson on day 12, Mr. Nora Burns on day 15,
Detective Garda Mick O'Driscoll on day 38, Detective Garda
John Fintan Kenny on day 38, Detective Garda John Gerard
O'Connor on day 15 and Detective Garda Tom Fox on day 23,
all of them have given evidence that they were unable to
recollect what they were doing on that day.
A. Yes.
Q. You are now aware of that, is that so? 8
A. Yes, I am aware now.
Q. In respect of the murders themselves, these murders took 9
place in Northern Ireland, isn't that correct?
A. That is correct, yes.
Q. And because of that, would responsibility for investigation 10
of the murders rest with the RUC?
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Q. Now, there was an investigation conducted from Dundalk, 11
isn't that so?
A. There was, yes.
Q. And that was an investigation conducted by Superintendent 12
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Connolly?
A. That's correct, yes.
Q. And were you asked by Superintendent Connolly to be part of 13
this inquiry?
A. No.
Q. It's been suggested to you by Mr. Dillon that you could 14
have sought to involve yourself in this inquiry by, in
effect, gate-crashing his team of investigators; would that
be possible?
A. Gate-crashing was never one of my endeavours that I would
engage in.
Q. Well, leaving aside the word 'gate-crashing', could you 15
have, of your own accord, just got involved in
Mr. Connolly's investigation if he hadn't requested you to
be part of it?
A. No, he picks -- he hand-picks a team, as every other
supervisory officer does; that's his prerogative, to
select, because I had been in part of hand-picked teams,
investigated murders all over the country, since -- I have
been working with the heads of every head of murder squad
since 1969, and when I was in Drogheda I was -- it was the
murder of a girl called Una Lynskey, and then -- well, it
wasn't -- there was more, it was more relaxed atmosphere,
so my availability -- Colonel Walker, then, was around the
seventies, when Colonel Walker was murdered at the time of
the anti-English presence of stately homes in Ireland, by
the IRA, Mr. Chairman, and every time there was a murder,
we'll say, there was a huge larceny of explosives from the
Curragh, County Kildare, and there was alarm in Government
circles that these explosives would be stolen by members of
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the defence forces, so, there again, I was called down
there, and I spent -- I think we spent three or four months
down there, and brought five of them to the Special
Criminal Court, where they were charged. So, I was an
integral part of -- whilst I was in Dundalk and Drogheda, I
was an integral part of a backup team for the murder squad
for any serious crime on account of my knowledge. And by
outlining the facts to you, I don't want to be giving the
impression that I am propagating my own position.
CHAIRMAN: But you weren't involved in the investigation of
the murders of Mr. Breen and Mr. Buchanan.
A. No, no.
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Superintendent Connolly, and he was perfectly entitled to
make such a decision.
A. Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
Q. And that's how the hierarchy of An Garda Siochana operates, 17
that the Superintendent will select the team he wishes to
investigate a certain offence?
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Q. So the Chairman will be fully aware that the primary murder 18
investigation is conducted by the RUC because the murders
took place in Northern Ireland, isn't that correct?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. And then there was an investigation south of the border by 19
the Gardaí, and that was run by Superintendent Connolly,
isn't that so?
A. Yes.
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Q. Are you aware of Detective Garda Bernard McGrath? 20
A. Yes.
Q. He gave evidence to the Chairman on day 39, and at pages 80 21
and 81, he said that "Connolly never seemed to be treating
Corrigan as a superintendent would treat a sergeant in the
day-to-day business of an office of that nature in their
discussions. There was very few, very little discussion
between them. Any of the various operations that were done
or carried out at that time, I don't recall Corrigan and
Connolly being together in any one of them."
Would you agree with that evidence that was given by
Detective Garda Bernard McGrath?
A. Absolutely. He was on my section and was well aware, he
could see it first hand, and any leader of an investigation
team, as I was myself for 13 years, he is depending on the
subordinates of the men working with him and it's his
function to get the ultimate maximum out of those, each and
every individual man. There is no two people have the same
qualities, and you have to encourage one type of an
individual and discourage the other. So, you amalgamate
them through the years and they believe -- there is a
trust, a bond builds up, but that when the new regime came
to Dundalk, that all went by the wayside. After all, you
know yourself, Mr. Chairman, we are after having 13 years
of extraordinary intelligence in relation to the return of
work, and, there again, I have to be very careful in case I
am accused of boasting.
Q. Mr. McGrath also gave evidence on day 39, from page 91 to 22
95, that Superintendent Connolly excluded you from a lot of
Garda work and Garda stuff. Would that be your
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recollection of it?
A. Absolutely.
Q. He also gave evidence to the Chairman that Superintendent 23
Connolly victimised those in your unit as well, the
officers underneath you?
A. That's right.
Q. And you'd agree with that? 24
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Q. And on day 31, Detective Garda Sean Gethins gave evidence 25
that he wasn't surprised that you weren't involved in
Superintendent Connolly's investigation because
Superintendent Connolly always used the same people, that's
what Detective Garda Gethins said; would you agree with
that?
A. With all due respects, that's a diplomatic way of saying
it, but the situation is, it became well known throughout
the Garda force, and if you recall Mr. Conroy, when asked
here by the Chairman at one stage, Mr. Conroy, when he came
to see me on the two occasions, he drove down from Dublin
and pleaded for me to go to work for him, and the -- one of
the first things he said to me is, "You get away from that
crowd in Dundalk and come to work for me." It's there now
in his -- if you wish to check his -- and he was asked on
the follow-up question, "How did you pick up Owen Corrigan,
pick out Owen Corrigan rather than anyone else?" That you
should see, because there was a serious problem in relation
to Martin Cahill, and the whole force was under pressure,
and he says, "I picked him because of his bravery."
Q. Okay. We'll come and look at that evidence in due course. 26
The Chairman was not asked by the Oireachtas to investigate
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employment issues in Dundalk Garda Station, but can you
inform the Chairman, Mr. Corrigan, was it the case that
there was a problem in Dundalk after the new regime came
in, and you were excluded from a lot of work?
A. Absolutely. I would go further, that it was premeditated
to a large extent by the RUC, who wished to impose -- who
got their 40 extra men as a result of pressure, that
resulted in 40 extra men, and they thought it was -- the
same principle would apply here as appeared in Northern
Ireland. But numbers in that game don't matter one iota.
One good detective is worth 50 very ordinary ones. That's
the way intelligence works. But there, you see, as I said
before in my evidence, they were trying to impose a
military solution on a political problem, and we had our
hand on the political problem and were doing
extraordinarily well, and, suddenly, the RUC, and I don't
want to prejudge whether Mr. -- in addition to the
addition, when they got the 40 extra men, it's my
contention that they went the next way, the next step along
the way and they instructed Mr. Curran to go and voice his
concern to me -- about me, rather, to Mr. Crowley.
Mr. Crowley worked with me for many, many years when I was
a trainee detective and Mr. Crowley knew me better than
anyone and he certainly was not going to tolerate anyone
coming up and doubting my integrity, nor was any one of the
six or eight members of Commissioner rank who knew me the
same and knew me for nothing but a workaholic and a
devotion to duty to the exclusion of my own personal
safety --
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CHAIRMAN: Why would any member of the RUC want to blacken
your name?
A. Well, you see, I was on every -- well, now, I think you
have heard enough here at this Tribunal to know they made a
pretty good attempt at it, Mr. Chairman. Because, I was a
big thorn in the side of the IRA and they were running up,
putting my name down that I was doing this, that or the
other, and collecting money in the process.
Q. MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Mr. Corrigan, just in respect of the 27
Chairman's question about blackening your name, the RUC
doing it, would you agree with me that the only evidence
prior to the establishment of this Tribunal, suggesting
that you were up to wrongdoing, by the RUC, was the SB50
from 1985?
A. Yes, there was many people who came up and said they heard
this and they heard that, like.
Q. We'll come to that. But in terms of information available 28
within the RUC suggesting that you were up to wrongdoing,
that's limited to the SB50 in 1985, isn't that so?
A. Yes. On a concrete basis, yes.
Q. And we'll look at that in due course, as to the provenance 29
of that SB50.
A. Yes.
Q. However, you are aware also, and very many RUC men have 30
come here and those who have worked with you have given
very positive evidence about you, isn't that right?
A. Absolutely. As I said before, the finest men that I ever
worked with were the members of the IRA -- or the RUC.
Q. And it has -- evidence has also been given here by the RUC 31
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officers, some of them who don't know you, that they
thought that -- they had heard rumours about you and that
you were, to use their words, they thought you were dodgy,
or things like that, but these were people who didn't work
with you, isn't that so?
A. Absolutely.
Q. Now, what I want to do is, I want to look at the two pieces 32
of evidence against you. You are aware that there are only
two pieces of evidence against you, Mr. Corrigan,
suggesting that you colluded in the murders of these two
officers?
A. Yes.
Q. Are you aware of that?33
A. Yes.
Q. Mr. Keeley and Mr. Hurst? 34
A. Yes.
Q. What I want to do now is, I want to look first at 35
Mr. Keeley's evidence and allegation against you.
And, Chairman, I don't know if you have your book with you,
or Mr. Mills could put it up.
CHAIRMAN: I have, yes.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: But if we could go to tab 20, and if you
could go to tab 20 as well, please, Mr. Corrigan, we have
got the Kevin Fulton statement. This is a statement that
was handed in by Mr. Keeley, along with Willie Fraser, to
Judge Cory on the 9th September 2003. You are aware of
that, Mr. Corrigan?
A. Yes.
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Q. If you have trouble, Mr. Corrigan, with the folder, look at 36
the screen behind you. It's up there.
A. It's okay.
Q. So, this is dropped in to the Cory Inquiry one month before 37
it reports, you are aware of that?
A. I wasn't aware until quite recently.
Q. Okay. So, Mr. Keeley, accompanied by Willie Fraser, on 38
foot of an e-mail from somebody, it appears to be
associated with HMG, drops this in to Judge Cory on the 9th
September 2003?
A. Yes.
Q. And the relevant information against you is contained in 39
the middle two paragraphs. I just want to read them out
and then look at Mr. Keeley's evidence.
He says, in the second paragraph: "On one occasion in the
late 1980s, I was with my senior IRA commander and another
individual in my car. I knew the other individual to be
Garda B" -- that's you, Owen Corrigan -- "I was introduced
to Owen Corrigan. I knew that Owen Corrigan, who was
stationed at Dundalk, was passing information to the
Provisional IRA."
The second piece of information given by Mr. Keeley to
Judge Cory is as follows: "I was in Dundalk on the day of
the ambush of Superintendent Buchanan and Chief
Superintendent Breen. I am aware that after the ambush
took place, my senior IRA commander was told by a member of
PIRA that Owen Corrigan had telephoned to the Provisional
IRA to tell them that officers Breen and Buchanan were at
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the Dundalk Station."
Now, just before we get into the substance of his evidence,
did you get into a car with 'Mooch' Blair outside Fintan
Callan's Céilí House sometime in the summer of 1991?
A. Certainly not.
Q. You see that Mr. Keeley, in his statement here, refers to 40
this taking place in the late 1980s, do you see that?
A. Yes.
Q. In fact, in his evidence he said that it was a number of 41
weeks before Tom Oliver was murdered, which is the 19th
July 1991.
A. Yes.
Q. At that time, Mr. Corrigan, you were on sick leave, isn't 42
that correct?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. Would you have had access to any intelligence information 43
that the Gardaí had when you were out on sick leave?
A. No.
Q. Just in respect of the second paragraph, he says here to 44
Judge Cory that you had telephoned to the Provisional IRA
to tell them that the officers were at the Dundalk Station.
Did you do that?
A. Oh, I certainly did not.
Q. Now, what I want to do is, I want to move forward to tab 23 45
to look at the -- part of the evidence of Mr. Keeley. And
on day 67, at page 52, Mr. Keeley gave evidence in respect
of the meeting in the car park in the car. Are you aware
that he has said that that meeting took place in Fintan
Callan's Céilí House?
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A. Yes.
Q. What type of an establishment was Fintan Callan's Céilí 46
House in May or June of 1991?
A. Well, it would be a meeting place for -- you see, the
situation is, it's situated on the Dundalk-Castleblayney
road, with a branch-off for Crossmaglen, and travelling
through the second most dangerous concession road in the
North of Ireland, which is Cullaville, and it's frequented
by members of the Provisional IRA smuggling -- it's a place
that no member of the Garda would ever even contemplate
frequenting.
Q. What would happen if you had walked into Fintan Callan's 47
Céilí House in the summer of 1991 and its usual clientele
was there?
A. Well, I wouldn't have any hope of my mortality. It was the
last place God would made departing from going into an IRA
meeting. It's so ridiculous to even think of it, that the
members would suggest -- to me, now, that suggests that
they didn't even realise the significance of the element,
or the status by which this particular establishment held
in the eyes of the subversive elements, because it was
subversive elements from all the different branches of the
border area that frequented it.
Q. Mr. Prenty recently gave evidence to the Chairman stating 48
that, as far as he was aware, Fintan Callan's Céilí House
was a normal establishment which wasn't a Provo house, if I
can call it that?
A. Well...
Q. Do you agree with that? 49
A. No, I don't agree with that.
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Q. Do you recollect preparing C77s, or a C77 in respect of 50
Fintan Callan's Céilí House and suggesting in the C77 that
it was a place where Provisional IRA people acquainted?
A. I can't specifically. Like, I prepared 400, in excess of
400. Now, to ask me to try and remember each and every one
of them...
Q. OK. 51
A. But it would have figured within my intelligence-gathering,
because I was there within the administrative section of
the Detective Branch and I would be taking in reports from
my subversives, you know, and it was certainly featured as
a meeting place or rendezvous for members of the
Provisional IRA from Crossmaglen and Cullaville, for
meeting.
Q. My solicitor has inquired of An Garda Siochana as to 52
whether such a C77 exists, and I am led to believe that
there is such a C77, so perhaps it will be put to you by
the Garda Siochana at a future date.
A. As I say now, I can't confirm it.
Q. Can I ask you now just to look at -- this is the evidence 53
at day 67, which is in front of you, page 52 of the
transcript, that Mr. Keeley gave in respect of the
encounter he alleges occurred with you at Fintan Callan's
Céilí House, and this is what he told the Chairman,
starting with question 317:
"Question. So the Chairman can take it that
'Mooch' Blair approached you one day in
May/June 1991 and said 'I need a lift to
Fintan Callan's Céilí House'?
Answer. No, he wouldn't have said that, 'I
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need to go to Fintan Callan's Callan Céilí
House. He would have got into the car and told
me where to go.
Question. So you didn't know where you were
going?
Answer: Not until we got there.
Question: Okay. And this was your first
time driving there?
Answer: To Fintan Callan's, yes. I've been
out that road many times because Patsy
O'Callaghan lived, before it, on a different
road.
Question: When you arrived in the car park,
what happened?
Answer: I pulled in, 'Mooch' got out and went
into the bar.
Question: How long was he in the bar for?
Answer: Only a few minutes. Came back out
again and then he was followed by Owen
Corrigan.
Question: What did Owen Corrigan do?
Answer: He got into the back of the car.
Question: What happened then?
Answer: He was talking to 'Mooch'. I sat
looking out the window and that is when he said
about Tom Oliver being caught with an
unlicensed shotgun and was passing information.
Question: Did 'Mooch' introduce you to Owen
Corrigan?
Answer. No, he didn't. I was basically a
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shadow sitting there. I never spoke, never did
anything.
Question: You weren't introduced to Corrigan?
Answer: Not introduced, no."
Now, could I pause there. Did that happen?
A. No, absolutely not.
Q. In May and June 1991, did you know anything about Tom 54
Oliver being caught with an unlicensed shotgun, or anything
like that?
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Q. You didn't know about that?55
A. No.
Q. Did you see here that, in his evidence, Mr. Keeley says 56
that he was not introduced to you?
A. Yes.
Q. He says here "You weren't introduced to Corrigan? 57
Answer: Not introduced, no."
You recall from his letter to Judge Cory, in that letter to
Judge Cory, which is at tab 20, he says that he was
introduced to you.
A. Yes...
Q. He said, "I knew the other individual to be Owen Corrigan. 58
I was introduced to Owen Corrigan."
A. Yes...
Well, of course, a liar has got to have a great memory, you
know.
Q. Could I now ask you, then, to go to the last page in that 59
tab, which is page 75 of the transcript of day 67 before
the Tribunal. This is Mr. Keeley's evidence in respect of
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his allegation that you colluded in the murders of Breen
and Buchanan. And in the middle of that page, question
485, I say to Mr. Keeley:
"Question: So Mickey Collins then comes back a
second time, Mr. Keeley, is that correct?
Answer: He would have been back over again
later.
Question: Just don't do 'would have been'.
You are the person who is giving us this
evidence, so be specific. If you don't
remember, you don't remember.
Answer: At this moment in time, I just don't
remember.
Question: But you think that Mickey Collins
comes back a second time and tells you that
that the incident was the killing of the two
RUC officers?
Answer: Yes.
Question: And are you stating on that occasion
he says to you about the friend?
Answer: 'Our friend', yes.
Question: And what words did he use?
Answer: Just, it was 'our friend' helped out.
Question: That is all he said?
Answer: Something like that, yeah.
Question: Okay, and -- "
And if Mr. Mills could then just go to tab 24, the
transcript continues on page 76, and Mr. Keeley says:
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"Answer: I took it to be Owen Corrigan.
Question: Okay. He didn't mention Owen
Corrigan?
Answer: Not by name, no, no, no.
Question: He didn't mention that Owen Corrigan
had seen the officers in the station?
Answer: No, he didn't say that.
Question: He didn't say that?
Answer: No, no.
Question: Okay. This is what you said to
Judge Cory... "
And here, I put to him, Mr. Corrigan, what was in his
letter to Judge Cory.
A. Yes.
Q. This is what he said to Judge Cory: "I was in Dundalk on 60
the day of the ambush of Superintendent Buchanan and Chief
Superintendent Breen. I am aware that, after the ambush
took place, my senior IRA commander 'Mooch' Blair was told
by a member of PIRA" -- presumably, Mickey Collins -- "that
Garda B had telephoned to the Provisional IRA to tell them
that Officers Breen and Buchanan were at the Dundalk
Station."
And in reply, Mr. Keeley says, "No, well that wouldn't be
totally correct, no.
Question: Okay. In your statement to Judge
Cory, there were two substantive paragraphs,
the one about Fintan Callan's Céilí House and
this one here. You are now stating that what
you said to Judge Cory is incorrect?
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Answer: I can't remember it totally. If you
are saying that is what is written down in the
statement...
Question: Yes, that's incorrect?
Answer: It's not totally correct.
Question: Yes, it's incorrect, you've said
it already?
Answer: Yes.
Question: Why did you mislead Judge Cory?
Answer: I would not have purposely misled
Judge Cory, sir.
Question: You agree that he was mislead?
Answer: Well, thinking back now, I couldn't
remember the statement I've made, it's so many
years ago.
Question: But, sorry, your evidence here is
completely different to what you told to Judge
Cory, isn't that so?
Answer: Well, it's -- yeah.
Question: Why did you mislead Judge Cory?
Answer: I didn't purposely mislead Judge
Cory."
So, do you see that Mr. Keeley, Mr. Corrigan, has, in
effect, told the Chairman that he misled Judge Cory but he
didn't purposely mislead him, do you see that?
A. I do, yeah.
Q. Can you give any indication as to why you think Mr. Keeley 61
would have misled Judge Cory?
A. Oh, it was inevitable as a consequence, it was most
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important that he would present a certain case in order to
move this whole process further for Judge Cory to make up
his mind to set up this Tribunal, and the more flesh he
could put on the so-called facts which he hadn't got, the
better for him; in other words, he filled in the holes with
imaginary facts and this convinced -- like, in other words,
like so many other people, he fooled Judge Cory, he led him
a merry dance.
Q. Is it your belief that Mr. Keeley was put up to providing 62
this letter to Judge Cory by the British Security Service?
A. Oh, I have no doubt. That was the very start of it now.
That was the first port of call, Judge Cory. He had to
gain access to Judge Cory, so that was his port of call.
We'll move down the line then and I'll outline to you then
in due course what the next port of call was.
Q. And you are aware from Judge Cory's report that it was the 63
Kevin Fulton statement, as he called it, which
predominantly urged him to recommend an inquiry, isn't that
so?
A. Yes, on the strength of Fulton's statement, and he has
stated that.
Q. And this was a letter that was provided to Judge Cory, 64
effectively at the eleventh hour of his investigation?
A. That's right.
Q. Do you see any similarities between that and what has 65
happened here over the past two weeks in this Inquiry,
Mr. Corrigan, that at the eleventh hour of this Inquiry the
British Security Service have lobbed in more information?
A. That's right.
Q. What does that convey to you as -- from your experience of 66
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this Tribunal, what does that convey to you?
A. Well, the situation, as I said, without, again, appearing
boastful, I was aware of the strategy and modus operandi of
these people and I knew exactly how they operated, and you
can see from the five pieces of information that they had,
the only one that they released here to the Chairman was
the one that was going -- was the famous, or infamous,
SB50, which was deemed to do damage to me. Nevertheless,
they released that to the Tribunal and never said a word
about the others that were totally at odds with what had
been submitted.
Q. Could I ask you to go to tab 25, please, Mr. Corrigan. You 67
have stated repeatedly that Mr. Keeley is a paid agent of
the British Security Service, isn't that so?
A. Absolutely, yes.
Q. And in fairness to you and in fairness to him, Mr. Keeley 68
accepts that.
A. Yes, and I was the first and only one to state that from
the word go. I don't know how many people believed me, but
it was from my experience of -- since 1969 and working on
the border and understanding the way the British Army
undercover and MI5 work, I was au fait with all their
strategies and how they would operate to the detriment of
anyone else that they were dealing with.
Q. Could I ask you, at tab 25, there is evidence of Mr. Keeley 69
from day 67, page 100, and the last question on that page,
which is question 680, is as follows:
"Question. I thought you said you were being
treated very well by MI5?
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Answer: My expenses and the place where I live
is being paid by those people. I am not
involved with them and I don't work for them or
with them.
Question: So MI5 are paying for your...
Answer: My accommodation.
Question: Your accommodation?
Answer: Yes.
Question: Do you remember there was an article
written by Matthew Teague in the Atlantic
magazine?
Answer: I do, yes.
Question: He, in that article, said you took
him back to your house.
Answer: At that time, yes.
Question: I won't identify it, I don't need to
identify where it is, but he said you lived in
an expensive flat with heavy security
overlooking a well-known London landmark. Is
that a fair assessment of your accommodation?
Answer: Possibly, yes.
Question: And that is being paid for by MI5?
Answer: Yes, sir."
And then if you just go to the bottom of that page,
Mr. Corrigan, question 691:
"And are you getting a wage from them on an
ongoing basis?
Answer: I get a subsistence to help me
survive."
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So you see there that Mr. Keeley is accepting he is being
paid and his accommodation is being paid by the British
Security Service, you are aware of that?
A. Absolutely. And he differentiates between a wage and
subsistence. What a description, now.
Q. Are you aware also that when Mr. Keeley came here to give 70
evidence, that he told the Chairman he had never -- he did
not know Willie Fraser --
A. Yes.
Q. -- prior to the time both of them visited Judge Cory in 71
September 2003?
A. Yes.
Q. You read that? 72
A. Yes.
Q. And then subsequently he changed his evidence, because he 73
said, oh, he did, in fact, meet Mr. Fraser with
Mr. Donaldson back in 2000, isn't that so?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. So are you aware that, in fact, Mr. Keeley enters into this 74
narrative, this equation, back in -- sometime in March
2000, when he meets Jeffrey Donaldson in the House of
Commons, are you aware of that?
A. That's right, yeah.
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your name?
A. That's right.
Q. Okay. Now, at tab 27, there is some evidence, and at tab 76
26, rather, there was information there in respect of the
last matter about Mr. Keeley going to meet Mr. Donaldson.
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But at tab 27, there is the evidence of certain RUC
officers about Mr. Keeley. Are you aware that certain RUC
officers have given very negative evidence about Peter
Keeley and his honesty?
A. Oh, I haven't heard anyone saying anything positive about
him, good, bad or indifferent.
Q. Well, some people, I think one or two RUC officers have, 77
but those who...
A. Well, they were in relation to explaining certain
particular incidents, you know.
Q. If you go to the second page, this is Witness 64 on day 53, 78
and Witness 64, day 53, page 37, is questioned at question
228, and he says:
"Question: You mentioned that there were
occasions when Kevin Fulton gave you
information which you were aware was misleading
information. Without identifying any
individuals, could you give an example to the
Chairman of -- maybe you can't recall it, but
if you can, can you give an example of the type
of misleading information he gave to you which
clearly was false?
Answer: Well, there was probably a number I
could give, but one particularly interesting
one was, we were given intelligence about an
IRA active service unit planning to travel to
Great Britain to carry out a series of attacks
there and Mr. Fulton told us that he had been
asked to prepare weapons hides to facilitate
the logistics of that unit travelling to Great
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Britain. Police operations were put in place
in England and Scotland, and quite considerable
police time, effort, resources went into
carrying out preparatory work to try and catch
the alleged active service unit, only for
Mr. Fulton to subsequently state that it was
something that he had made up, and, as you can
appreciate it, it caused us considerable
embarrassment because the intelligence had been
relayed across to Great Britain. Various
people over there were quite exercised about
the thoughts of IRA attacks being carried out
in Great Britain. A lot, as I say, time,
police effort, resource, a lot of money from
the public purse had been spent in police
operations, all for it to be disclosed as a
work of fiction.
Question: And could I ask you, sir, did he
give any explanation or excuse to you as to why
he had created or made up this bit of
intelligence?
Answer: No, we never got a satisfactory
explanation to that or to other things we were
told.
Question: And from your assessment of him, did
you think he was doing it because he was
interested in fantasy or was he trying to
generate publicity for himself subsequently, or
why do you think he did it?
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mixture of things. There was obviously
financial reward, and sometimes greed can
triumph over common sense. I think, also,
attention-seeking ego. There are lots of
factors that could play in there, but you would
really need a good psychiatrist or psychologist
to give those answers."
Have you ever met, Mr. Keeley?
A. No.
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making about you, do you agree with the assessment of
Mr. Keeley given there by Witness 64?
A. Oh, I do indeed, yeah.
Q. On the next page, we have an excerpt from day 40, page 18, 80
and this is the evidence of Witness 60, another RUC
officer. And at question 79 he is asked the following:
"Question. You mentioned Kevin Fulton. What
did you make of him?
Answer: In my experience, he seemed to provide
some good intelligence when he started with a
number of organisations. The quality of the
intelligence then seemed to drop off, and I,
at a later stage, had the role of authorising
sources under the Regulation of Investigatory
Powers Act, and I refused to authorise him to
provide intelligence because I believed that he
was an intelligence nuisance.
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Answer: He was more trouble then he was worth.
Question: I see. As likely to provide false
information?
Answer: Yes."
And do you agree with that assessment given by Witness 60?
A. Most certainly.
Q. Then, the next page, we have Witness 62, another RUC 81
officer, on day 51, and at page 40, at question 130, he is
asked the following:
"Question: Now, I think that you said in your
statement that, in your opinion, he was a
compulsive liar, a fantasist and a con man of
the highest order, and you said that he was
what you would term an intelligence nuisance.
Where did that come from?
Answer: Yeah, that's correct. That would be
my opinion of Keeley, alias Fulton, because
when he was recruited, my recollection is that
he initially provided some good intelligence on
the Provisional IRA and -- but subsequently he
began to make it up, and I can remember us
mounting many, many operations, covert
operations, based on his so-called
intelligence, where nothing happened, and, of
course, nothing does happen very often, so you
put it down to experience and you wait until
next week and you get something else. But I
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became aware then that the branch in Newry
began to realise that he was just making all
this up. No doubt he had his reasons for
making it up. Sometimes it's because they want
to get more money, sometimes it's because they
want to please their handlers, sometimes it's
because they just live in a fantasy world."
Do you agree with that assessment of Mr. Keeley?
A. Absolutely, with all three.
Q. And in terms of the serious allegations this man has made 82
against you, which are the only, as I say, one of two, the
only pieces of evidence against you are Mr. Keeley and
Mr. Hurst. In terms of Mr. Keeley's allegations against
you, do you regard them as being made-up fantasy?
A. Absolutely.
Q. And you believe he is saying it because he is being paid by 83
the British Security Service?
A. Yes, that's exactly the situation, Mr. Chairman.
Q. And what interest do you believe the British Security 84
Service have in trying to convince this Chairman that there
was collusion between the IRA and An Garda Siochana, why
would they be interested in doing that?
A. Well, do you see, they were under pressure initially in
relation to -- their main aim was to divert attention from
the wholesale behaviour of the security forces in Northern
Ireland in relation to the collusion. The situation in
Northern Ireland was, in the seventies and the eighties,
where people were being slaughtered at various venues, and
this is when the IRA came in as defenders, so it ended up
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in a tit-for-tat situation, and it got worse, because with
the initial attacks that were launched by the members of
the security forces, that evolved at a counter-attack by
the IRA, so, I mean, one was as bad as the other, but the
overall situation became worse by the day or the month, and
that's how the tit-for-tat operation continued going on.
And they were trying to divert attention away from the
wholesale intervention -- remember one thing, the behaviour
of the security forces in the seventies in the North of
Ireland was quite appalling. There were members of the
other security forces who were intermingling with these
subversive elements, criminals. There were a number of RUC
men caught, convicted of murder, sent to jail, and they
were all operating from a farmhouse in Glenanne, County
Armagh, and, you see, the RUC knew that I was aware of what
was going on at this farm, and this farm was, as I said, a
den of iniquity, and all members -- you had the UVF, RUC -
full-time, part-time - UDR, Red Hand Commanders - that's
Willie Fraser. Now, just to elaborate on Willie Fraser.
Willie Fraser is a leader of his own little army and he
came to Dublin to complain to the Government, brought a
couple of bus-loads of supporters, disembarked at Parnell
Square and proceeded to march down O'Connell Street, when
they were attacked by locals -- you may recall it, Judge, a
number of years ago -- and the locals stoned them. The
Gardaí then had to intervene. And they caused hundreds of
thousands of pounds, and they had to escort them right back
to the border. But that's Willie Fraser, who was a close
associate of Mr. Fulton and Mr. Donaldson at the day that
Mr. Donaldson issued his statement, which was -- I was
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coming to. Mr. Donaldson's statement, which was, there
again, organised by the handlers, they knew that this was
the widest possible audience that the BBC Northern Ireland
was going to receive, and this was a mass audience and this
was another part in their -- now, the next thing after
that, the book, the Bandit Country, they authorised --
there was a direction from the ACC directing a subordinate
officer to take cognisance of Mr. Harnden, who Mr. Harnden,
after all, was a member of the British Conservative-led
paper, which is the Daily Telegraph, and he took leave of
absence to write this book and was part of the...
So you can see, as it came down the line, all the parts
were falling into place as a designed complex to damage the
southern security forces and divert the attack away from
the collusion that was going on in the North. Remember
that RUC, there was at least three or four were charged
with murder, and all were released under the Anglo-Irish
Agreement. And if you just bear with me for one minute,
Mr. Chairman. There was one of them there and they went up
to a William Strathearn, they told him -- they rang him up
and they said "we have a prescription for a sick child and
we'll be down there to collect it". Mr. Strathearn had to
open his door, and they shot him in the door of the house.
The next thing was, Joe Campbell, who was a Catholic
Sergeant in Ahoghill, up in the Glens of Antrim, they went
up to him at eight o'clock in the morning, and there was a
guy called Robin 'The Jackal' Jackson, who was the leader,
he was involved in at least 30 murders. Jackson got the
name -- Joe Campbell was a very prominent part of the GAA
up in Ballycastle/Dunloy area, up in the Glens of Antrim.
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So it was five to eight in the morning. This guy, an RUC
man was driving the van, and he said, "you don't come with
me," Jackson said "don't come with me because if two of us
come to the door it will arouse suspicion". So, of course,
he went down, and Joe Campbell lived on the quarters, rang
the door bell, Joe Campbell opened the door and they said
who it was, they said so-and-so and so-and-so, the radiator
has run dry, and, "I was told that if I called to you,
you'd be able to fix me up." Joe Campbell, like any good
neighbour, got up and walked down the stairs, bang. They
were only two of them. Now, I know there was four others.
There was a group in Armagh called SBG, the Special Patrol
Group, of which both of those were members of, and they had
free access to all of the North and were engaged in
full-time slaughter and killing of the members of the --
and this was what prompted --
CHAIRMAN: Members of what?
A. Members of the population. And this was -- prompted the
retaliation from the IRA, who saw certain sections of
people being mown down, and, of course, the IRA saw it, saw
it then, came in then and then created equally horrendous
murders, like the Tullyvallen Orange Hall thing, and all
those types of things, which remind us of the horrible
situation that things in Northern Ireland had degenerated
down to the level. And, like, one side was as bad as the
other, that's in essence now.
Q. MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Okay, Mr. Corrigan, in terms of why you 85
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Keeley up to this, your answer, in effect, is that it's in
their interest to present there being collusion between the
guards and paramilitaries in order to deflect attention
from the unquestionable fact that there was collusion
between Loyalist paramilitaries and certain security
services in the --
A. Absolutely. If I may say so, our own Government went over
there, Mr. McDowell and Mr. Ahern, and left this complaint
about it, and I don't know what went on in diplomatic
terms, but they certainly didn't follow it up in the public
domain, because the British -- sorry, I'd better not say
the 'Brits' or somebody will be jumping down my throat --
the British took umbrage at this or said to themselves "we
have a problem here, so we'd better get it solved". So,
the two members of the army went down to where Keeley was,
to his platoon office, and called him out and asked was he
prepared to work for the security service. "We'll send you
back to Northern Ireland. We'll give you a false discharge
from the army, a false discharge, so that you can show any
of your colleagues that, if you are questioned in the
North, be it by the IRA or what else, if you show why you
were thrown out, there it is, misbehaviour, and that will
cover you."
Q. But do you believe, Mr. Corrigan, that the reason you were 86
identified as a colluding guard was because there was an
SB50 from 1985 which could form the basis of such an
allegation against you?
A. Well, it was one of many. As I explained before,
Mr. Chairman, I was -- in fact, I was one of the very few
that was even prepared to go to Northern Ireland and I was
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taking on these guys first hand and I was the name on
everyone's lips. When they went in -- when Keeley went in
to the British Army, he, at a, what they call a debriefing,
he lodged my name. The same situation obtained in relation
to when he joined the RUC; when he was debriefed, he lodged
my name. Now, in relation to the way these matters -- the
mechanism works, that my name was top of the list at the
British Army Headquarters in Lisburn and at the RUC
Headquarters in Knock, and that was my -- everybody knew
Owen Corrigan. There were people coming up I never saw in
my life --
Q. You are aware, from 1985 there was obviously a piece of 87
intelligence, no matter how unreliable it may be, which
indicated that "Owen Corrigan may be helping out the boys,"
it's referred to, and that's from 1985?
A. I don't know what stage I became aware of that.
Q. Okay. You weren't aware of it until this Inquiry --88
A. No, that's right.
Q. -- started? But looking back on it now, with the benefit 89
of that knowledge, do you believe that that gives a reason
as to why Owen Corrigan should be the guard identified as
being a colluding guard?
A. Well, it was only a backup --
Q. Okay. 90
A. -- to what was already in circulation about me, because
they were hearing this story about Owen Corrigan every day
of the week.
Q. Now, tab 28, there is further evidence from Mr. Keeley on 91
day 67, page 73, where he says he has no direct knowledge
that you were involved in the murders of Breen and
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Buchanan. So you are aware, Mr. Corrigan, that even though
he says that -- he says that at question 469:
"Question: So I am correct you have no direct
knowledge?
Answer: No, I have no direct knowledge, no,
and I wasn't involved in that murder either."
So he has no direct knowledge of your involvement in the
murder of Breen and Buchanan. It's just indirect
information he has, you are aware of that?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, at the next tab, tab 29, in fact, there are a number 92
of the other allegations which Mr. Fulton made against you.
First of all, at the bottom of page -- sorry, it's the
first page there, page 8, day 67, he makes an allegation in
respect of Narrow Water and you. And at question 31:
"Question: Could you try and be more specific,
Mr. Keeley, as to when, by date, you first
became aware that Owen Corrigan was assisting
the IRA?
Answer: By date, I couldn't, sir, but one
instance I was told of, as well, many years
ago, was after the Narrow Water bombing, that
it was said that Owen Corrigan had helped the
IRA at that time.
Question: Now, Mr. Keeley, you weren't in the
IRA at the time of the Narrow Water bombing?
Answer: No. But I had heard it after that,
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yes.
Question: Okay. So when did you hear that?
Answer: I can't remember the exact date, sir.
Question: The Narrow Water bombing was in
August 1979, isn't that correct?
Answer: Yes.
Question: You got involved with the IRA, you
started to, I think your language, hang around
with 'Mooch' Blair around '81 or '82, isn't
that correct?
Answer: That is correct.
Question: Did you become aware of Owen
Corrigan's alleged assistance at that time?
Answer: It would have been around that time
and while I was hanging around with 'Mooch'
Blair and people like that in Dundalk."
Can I ask you, it's 33 years ago, the Narrow Water bombing,
but your evidence appears to be that you were involved in
investigating the scene of the shooting of Mr. Hudson, is
that right?
A. That's right, yes.
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the nest or the detonation site?
A. That's right, which was an elevated site which -- totally
overgrown with gorse and vegetation.
Q. Yeah. Now, and it's your recollection -- and, you know, 94
first of all, did you have any involvement in colluding
with the IRA in Narrow Water in respect of anything?
A. Absolutely none.
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Q. But it is your recollection that you weren't involved up in 95
the nest, but you were involved down by where Mr. Hudson
was shot?
A. That's right. When I went down, I was reacting to the
noise of gunfire, because Mr. Hudson's death came as a
result of the British Army were firing across towards the
south, and Mr. Hudson went down to the Narrow Water, which
explains itself, it's very narrow Mr. Chairman, and
Mr. Hudson ran down to the water to see what was happening,
and sure, of course, the British Army, which -- it was only
-- it wouldn't be -- about the width of the room here, and,
of course, they thought he was a member -- they thought he
was a terrorist and they just -- as soon as he ran down,
I'll never forget it, it was down on stones and we were
coming behind him in car, I don't know who was with me now,
I can't recall, but what I can vividly remember is him just
running down and suddenly being -- just turning his head,
falling back and him falling on the stones surrounding the
water.
Q. That was a killing that the Garda Siochana had to 96
investigate because it took place -- the man was shot dead
in the Republic of Ireland, isn't that so?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. Whereas the British Army officers were killed in Northern 97
Ireland, isn't that right?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. The allegation against you in respect of Narrow Water is 98
very vague, and I don't know to what extent it's being made
with any great heart by the people who make it, but the nub
of the allegation is that, and it doesn't really stand up
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to any scrutiny, the nub of the allegation is that you
organised for reeds to be cut down in order to prevent the
RUC from carrying out a proper investigation of the
detonation site. You are aware that's the allegation
against you?
A. But, sure, that's most ridiculous on so many fronts.
Q. Okay. You don't agree with it; it's wrong? 99
A. No, absolutely not. And the people who made it weren't,
obviously, aware of the regulations in relation to one
country -- like, after all, we are talking about different
jurisdictions. There is no question of -- he, that person
alleged that I walked on the grass and prevented an
examination by members of the RUC in a matter of days.
Q. Okay. Now, at page 10 in the tab we're in, it's still day 100
67, and one of the things I asked Mr. Keeley, Mr. Corrigan,
was whether or not he reported all these allegations
against you to his British military handlers, you are aware
of that?
A. Yes.
Q. And at question 44, I put that to him, on page 10: 101
"Question: When you became aware of it for the
first time, did you go back to your handlers
and inform them, 'By the way, I have got a
piece of fascinating information for you.
There is a guard in Dundalk called Corrigan who
is an IRA mole', did you do that?
Answer: I would have mentioned that to
handlers, yes, there is no doubt about it."
So he is saying that he did mention it to his handlers in
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British military intelligence, you are aware of that,
Mr. Corrigan?
A. Yes, of course.
Q. But, of course, when we looked, and we looked at it the 102
last day at Tab 22A, the British Army have given this
Tribunal a summary of any intelligence it has in respect of
this Tribunal's terms of inquiries.
MR. SMITH: Chairman, I don't wish to interrupt, but I
think that's really a matter of submissions. I think that
question was asked a different way on the last occasion.
And obviously in relation to the document that was produced
in relation to the material produced by British
intelligence, that's obviously open to discussion as well,
as to what exactly has been produced and whether there is
more.
CHAIRMAN: That is probably so. I think you are probably
correct in that, that it is more a matter of submissions.
Nevertheless, I don't want to interrupt Mr. O'Callaghan
unnecessarily, and I think I'll give him some latitude.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Yes. I was going to pass on from that.
Q. But you are aware, Mr. Corrigan, that at tab 22A there is a 103
summary of army intelligence for the Smithwick Tribunal.
I'm not asking you to go back to -- I opened it the other
day for you. But nowhere in that is there any suggestion
that what Mr. Keeley says is correct. What does that lead
you to believe about Mr. Keeley's allegations against you?
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with the full authorisation of the secret service attached
to the British Army and the RUC and he did it for a variety
of motives, but mainly financial. And, of course, he was
drawing a weekly wage and put up in his accommodation, so
it was imperative that he had some story to have every week
to keep his handlers happy.
Q. Okay, but if he had been aware in March 1989, on the day of 104
the murders, that 'our friend' had helped out, you agree
with me he would have reported that to the British
handlers, his British handlers?
A. Absolutely. He'd be delighted to be in the position...
Q. You are aware there is no record of that with the British 105
military?
A. Absolutely.
Q. Secondly, if it was the case that he got into a car with a 106
guard such as yourself in Fintan Callan's Céilí House --
A. Yes.
Q. -- that he would have reported that to his handlers, and 107
there is no record of that?
A. With the greatest haste possible.
Q. Now, tab 30, Mr. Keeley makes another allegation against 108
you, which is in respect of Omeath. And at the top of the
first page there, page 20, at question 97, he is asked:
"Question: Prior to the 20th March 1989, what
assistance had Owen Corrigan provided to the
IRA?
Answer: Well, I told you what I was told, the
stories I was told by 'Mooch' and them people
about the Omeath stuff.
Question: No. I am not trying to trick you
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out. Omeath was in August 1989, some five
months after the murders of the two RUC
officers. So on the day of the murder of the
RUC officers when Mr. A said to you 'our friend
helped us out', you must have, you couldn't
have known about Omeath at the time, isn't that
so?"
But he proceeds to go on there and deal with Omeath. Do
you know what he is talking about, the Omeath is a large
bomb-find by the guards in August '89?
A. That's right.
Q. A bomb-find that seems to be denigrated by the PSNI here 109
when they were questioning you. But what is your
recollection of that bomb-find? Was it a large bomb-find?
A. I don't know. I haven't -- because I wasn't dealing with
it.
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A. No, Mr. Connolly was dealing with that, and I've very,
very, very sketchy details in relation to it.
Q. Was this the one where you were up in the airplane? No, am 111
I confusing that, now?
A. That's Co. Meath.
Q. Is Omeath the occasion when you were up in the airplane? 112
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Q. Okay. 113
A. Omeath was the man -- in actual fact, the only man --
Q. Parker? 114
A. Parker is right.
Q. Okay. So, your recollection is, you weren't involved in 115
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Q. -- Omeath. And the allegation against you is that you 116
organised for fingerprints to be destroyed and that was a
way of assisting the IRA. Is there any truth in that
allegation?
A. That never happened, sure.
Q. And you are aware of the evidence being given by the Garda 117
Siochana that, in fact, they got fingerprints from the
scene in Omeath. Are you aware of that?
A. That's right, I am aware of that.
MR. SMITH: Chairman, again, I don't want to interrupt
again. I don't wish to interrupt My Friend's flow. Just
to be clear what Mr. Keeley said in relation to Omeath. On
day 67 at question 53, Mr. O'Callaghan asked him: "Did he
specifically state to you 'our friend' has got rid of the
fingerprints?" Mr. Keeley's response to that was "No".
But he knew fingerprints were on the things and he had
assumed that's what it meant. So his evidence was that he
wasn't specifically told that fingerprint evidence had been
destroyed.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Okay, I thank My Friend for that
clarification.
Q. So Mr. Keeley isn't saying definitively that you destroyed 118
fingerprints; he is assuming that you destroyed
fingerprints. Is his assumption correct?
A. That would appear.
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A. No, it's not.
Q. Could I now ask you to go to tab 32, and I asked Mr. Keeley 120
to describe you on day 67, it's page 29. At question 158,
I said to him:
"Question: Describe him." -- that's you.
"Answer: When I seen him then he was actually
tall, he was very bulky then so he was.
Question: How tall was he?
Answer: A lot taller than me. I am only five-
five.
Question: Okay. How tall would you say he
was?
Answer: How tall? I am not great at heights,
sir, how long is a piece of string? To me, he
is asking me questions that I am not going
remember, the exact height of the man, what
colour is his shoes, that's the next one.
Question: Was he tall or short?
Answer: He was taller than me but shorter than
some of the guards. Is that any help to you?
Question: No, it's not.
Answer: You see, the questions he is asking
me --
Question. Was he fat or thin?
Answer: He wasn't thin, he was very bulky.
Question: Was very, very fat, is that what
you are saying?
Answer: I am not saying he is fat, but he
would have been overweight.
Question: Was he bald or he did he have hair?
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Answer: He had hair.
Question: Did you notice anything distinctive
about his speech?
Answer: Not really, no.
Question: Did he speak to you?
Answer: I can't remember if he interrogated me
in this thing but, you see, again, what colour
is his shoes, that's the next one, is it?
Question. No, it's not. I am asking you about
his speech.
Answer: He has a southern accent."
The next tab, tab 33, Mr. Dillon, on behalf of the
Tribunal, suggested to you that, in fact, Mr. Keeley
described you very well. Do you agree with that,
Mr. Corrigan?
A. I can't recall now.
Q. Well, he says that you are taller than five-foot-five but 121
you are smaller than some guards. Like, presumably there
are guards who are six-foot-five, six-foot-six?
A. That's a very general statement, yeah.
Q. So, do you think Mr. Keeley gave an accurate description of 122
you?
A. I don't know. I haven't heard him give an accurate
description.
Q. Okay. 123
A. I am asked to take deductions from something without having
any particulars.
Q. Okay, that's fair enough. Could I ask you then to go to 124
tab 34. And the reason I asked Mr. Keeley these questions
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is because, on the 14th November 2004, the Observer
newspaper published an article on foot of an interview with
Mr. Keeley, and, during that interview, Mr. Keeley told the
author of the article, Mr. McDonald, that the reason he
knew you was that you had arrested him. And Mr. Keeley
said to Mr. McDonald in 2004, "I was interrogated by
Corrigan in Dundalk Garda Station at one stage. We all
knew about Corrigan. It was basically the worse-kept
secret within a certain group of IRA men."
Now, I then asked him, if you look at tab 34 and if you go
to the second page, page 25, I asked him about whether or
not he interrogated -- you interrogated him. And at
question 134, the following exchange takes place:
"Question: The only time you encountered him?
Answer: In the garda station.
Question: Okay. And did he arrest you?
Answer: No, he didn't arrest me.
Question: Did he interrogate you?
Answer: He came into the interrogation room
because I remember him coming into it.
Question: Did he interrogate you?
Answer: He was in the interrogation room when
I was getting interrogated, well spoken to, it
wasn't even an interrogation.
Question: Did he interrogate you ?
Answer: He came into the room and the
detectives were in the interrogation room.
Question: Mr. Keeley, it's a very simple
question: was the retired detective
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sergeant one of the people who
interrogated you when you were arrested and
held in Dundalk on the 30th June 1989?
Answer: He came into the room when I was
interrogated, being interrogated by --
Chairman: Did he interrogate you himself?
Answer: He was in the room when other
detectives were talking to me, but I would
count those people in the room --
Chairman: did he not take part in the
interrogation?
Answer: I can't remember, but he was in the
room.
Mr. O'Callaghan: Your evidence is you can't
remember whether he interrogated you or not?
Answer: Well he was in the room, he came into
the room.
Question: Okay. But you can't remember
whether he interrogated you or not?
Answer: I can't remember the names of the
other people either.
Question: I am not asking you that question.
You can't remember whether Owen Corrigan
interrogated you or not, is that correct
Answer: No, that's correct."
Do you recall ever arresting Mr. Keeley?
A. No.
Q. Do you recall ever interrogating him? 125
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Q. Okay. Now, the next tab is tab 35, and I suppose this 126
relates to evidence Mr. Keeley gave about the meeting in
Fintan Callan's Céilí House, and he says that there were
two abductions of Tom Oliver.
A. Yes.
Q. I know you weren't in the guards at the time, but from your 127
information and recollection, is that correct?
A. No, it's not correct.
Q. Mr. Keeley told the Chairman that he was part of the gang 128
that tied up Mr. Oliver, tied him up like a chicken, is
what Mr. Keeley said, and had him in the back of a van?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. And then he says that he subsequently released him and he 129
was -- that they subsequently released him and then he was
subsequently kidnapped again. Are you aware of any
information in respect of corroborating what he has said?
A. No, absolutely none. Tom Oliver, there was only one
kidnapping of him.
Q. If you could now go to tab 37. I have finished now with 130
Mr. Keeley, Mr. Corrigan, okay?
A. Yes.
Q. And you know that the nature of his evidence against you is 131
very tenuous. He simply says that he heard that 'our
friend' helped out after the murders, that's the extent of
it. Okay. Now, I want to look at Mr. Hurst. And at tab
37, there is an excerpt from day 92, page 88. First of
all, had you ever heard of Mr. Hurst during your time as a
guard?
A. No.
Q. You know he has written a book? 132
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A. I have heard of that, I didn't read it now.
Q. It's called 'Stakeknife'. And, of course, Mr. Keeley is 133
also an author. Have you read Mr. Keeley's book?
A. No, I haven't, no.
Q. So both of them have certain things in common: they have 134
both written books and they both have two names?
A. Absolutely. They are both liars, yeah.
Q. Page 88, at the bottom of day 92, Mr. Hurst is asked the 135
following: Question 431:
"Question: Do you have any good linking Owen
Corrigan in colluding with the IRA in the
murder of those two RUC officers?
Answer: No, not directly.
Question: Do you have any information linking
Owen Corrigan in colluding with the IRA in the
killing of those two RUC officers?
Answer: Only what the Cipher 82, we have
discussed.
Question: Okay. Are you stating that Witness
82 said to you the Owen Corrigan leaked
information to the IRA that assisted them in
murdering the two officers?
Answer: I think that would be a general
description of that conversation, yeah.
Question: What did Witness 82 say to you?
Answer: That's what I have just explained to
you, that we had a general discussion that Mr.
Scappaticci and Owen Corrigan had been involved
and had relayed information to Witness 82 via
Scappaticci that there had been some
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involvement with Mr. Corrigan.
Question: Where did this conversation with
Witness 82 take place?
Answer: In Thiepval on a football...
Question: When did it take place?
Answer: In social surroundings.
Question: Who brought up the topic of the
murder of Breen and Buchanan?
Answer: Well it was a pretty -- it was well
reported and it is what you might call a
spectacular.
Question: I thought you said earlier it wasn't
really a matter of relevance for the army?
Answer: Not for the army, I am talking
generally."
Then, if you go over the page to page 90, and if you just
look at the answer to question 439, Mr. Hurst says:
"Answer: Okay, sir, Cipher 82 told me that
Mr. Corrigan was being handled by Mr.
Scappaticci and had admitted or passed
information to the IRA which was used in the
attack upon Mr. Breen and Mr. Buchanan, and it
was the communication. There was no specific
details because it wasn't in the context that
we were discussing it.
Question: Did you take from it that Mr.
Scappaticci had told Witness 82 that
Mr. Corrigan had given him this information?
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Answer: Yes.
Question: So your evidence is that Owen
Corrigan leaked information to Freddie
Scappaticci which had the effect of resulting
in the death of these two officers?
Answer: No, no, no, no. I am not saying the
information was leaked to Mr. Scappaticci, what
I am saying to you is that Mr. Scappaticci was
making it aware that Mr. Corrigan had leaked it
to members of the IRA."
Now, first of all, did you know Freddie Scappaticci?
A. No, never met him.
Q. I think, and this may be with the passage of time and your 136
memory is not helping you, but I think you did prepare C77s
in respect of Freddie Scappaticci?
A. Oh, I did, yeah, but that would be -- that would be -- I
must explain to you, Mr. Chairman, that this would be -- we
had 500 activists in Dundalk, and that meant -- when I
went, there was just in excess of 40, so I brought it up -
my team, rather, brought it up from 40 to 530, I think, but
I wouldn't be aware of every single individual that was
coming in and out. Sure, they were coming in and out like
a train station and there was a lot of work involved in --
because, you see, the precursor to listing anyone in the --
as members of the IRA, was, first and foremost, who he was
associating with, what he was doing, if he was on --
involved in robberies or any type of crime, good, bad or
indifferent, and you'd build up a profile of him before a
decision would be made, and then we'd have a discussion, a
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collective discussion, about -- amongst ourselves, to see
if it warranted. So, as you can appreciate, I had -- it is
a lot of work, so I had a full-time secretary. So, after
the discussion with the rest of the lads, I would draft out
the file on this particular individual, any particular
individual, and he would process it, type it, file it and
send it up to the Commissioner. So that's the way, like --
the same thing happened with Paddy O'Callaghan. If --
people report here. I didn't know Paddy O'Callaghan. I
didn't know Paddy O'Callaghan. I wrote about him in the
course of my correspondence, but Paddy O'Callaghan was
Paddy O'Callaghan, the same as 500 others. Just before I
finish, Mr. --
Q. No problem. 137
A. I wouldn't have spent ten hours on outdoor duty in the
week, Mr. Chairman, because I was fully flat-out in
administrative work, trying to keep -- setting out all the
duties of the subordinate members and alternations, people
going sick, holidays, changes, and all that, and I wouldn't
have time to be out seeing these people, and except I was
there when they were actually brought in, I wouldn't have
an opportunity of physically -- I wouldn't know
Mr. Scappaticci if he walked into the room.
Q. Are you aware that your solicitor has written to the guards 138
inquiring whether there are C77s that you generated in
respect of Patsy O'Callaghan and Freddie Scappaticci, are
you aware that that --
A. I am aware, and I would say, without any real credence, but
I would say that I would have written and reported on both
of those individuals.
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Q. Well, that's the response that was given by the Gardaí to 139
your solicitor, and that's something that perhaps the
guards will deal with in their re-examination or
cross-examination.
Were you handled by Freddie Scappaticci?
A. No, I was not.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, we have to ask you these questions because 140
the allegation has been put out there by Mr. Hurst.
A. Sure, I have already told you, Mr. O'Callaghan, I don't
even know the man.
Q. Okay. Now, tab 38, more evidence from Mr. Hurst on day 92, 141
and if you go to the second page, page 44, you'll see at
the bottom of that page, at question 210, where Mr. Hurst
is asked the following question:
"Question: Are you saying that the
intelligence documents that you saw suggested
that Mr. Corrigan was leaking information to
the IRA?
Answer: Yes, yes.
Question: Can you give us any idea as to, for
example, the content of one of those
allegations that were being made?
Answer: As I have explained to you previously
in private investigative session the best place
to go and source that documentation is to go
and obtain the actual intelligence documents,
as I did with Lord Stevens, and to give an
example, Stevens one, Stevens two didn't
obtain any intelligence documents until Stevens
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three, and then I showed him where to go and
look and they obtained from the MOD forms 24
and MOD forms 102s, all the documents which
proved that there had indeed been collusion."
Did you leak information to the IRA as suggested by
Mr. Hurst?
A. I most certainly did not. And I think it's the greatest
insult to my integrity.
Q. Some people here have tried to suggest, Mr. Corrigan, when 142
they are questioning you, that, in some respect, you are
tolerant or you are sympathetic towards the IRA. What do
you say to that insinuation that has been advanced at the
Tribunal?
A. Well, I find a lot of the comments, including comments in
relation to several of my matters that were raised, very
hurtful, including the allegations that was made by counsel
for the Tribunal that I was malingering and that I was
guilty of deception, which I found to be deeply offensive.
Q. We will deal with that presently. But in terms of the 143
insinuation that you were sympathetic to the IRA during
your 30 years in Dundalk, is that correct?
A. Well, what I will say to that, you have had enough people
up here to give you a true, accurate account of that
statement to see how ridiculous it is, and anyone that
would issue such a statement in respect of me, would be
issuing it with total and absolute malicious intent.
Nobody was more opposed to the IRA, and fought every day of
my life and was well-known for my antagonistic approach to
them. So I don't know where the source of that was, but it
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would be certainly mischievous to be coming from somebody
that had something to say derogatory about me.
Q. And isn't it the case that the Provisional IRA murdered 144
many of your colleagues in the Garda Siochana?
A. Absolutely.
Q. And, indeed, members of the defence forces, isn't that 145
correct?
A. Absolutely, including members from Dundalk in '84, the full
unit from Dundalk went up to Drumree post office,
Co. Meath, 13 of them from Dundalk, every one of them, and
we arrested every one of them and charged them.
Q. Do you see any irony in the fact that after 30 years of 146
murdering people, that this State --
CHAIRMAN: Do you want a few minutes' recess, Mr. Corrigan,
or Mr. O'Callaghan?
A. No, it's okay. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: You are okay now, Mr. Corrigan?
A. Yes.
Q. You are aware, Mr. Corrigan, that the Chairman is 147
conducting this inquiry because he's been asked by the
Oireachtas to carry out the inquiry?
A. Oh, absolutely, yes.
Q. And he has no option but to investigate this because the 148
State has said to him "we want you to investigate this
issue," you are aware of that?
A. Yes, I understand fully the Chairman's situation.
Q. Do you see any irony, and perhaps it's a comment you may 149
wish to make, do you see any irony in the fact that this
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State, after 30 years of violence from the IRA, decides
that the one issue it will decide to investigate is Garda
behaviour in that alleged collusion with the IRA?
A. I wouldn't say it's the only one, now. The terms of
condition were to investigate all terms of the security
forces in general, you know.
Q. But the Chairman is mandated to inquire into Garda 150
collusion or collusion by civil servants in IRA murders?
A. That's right, I understand now that's his situation.
Q. Could I ask you to go to tab 40. More of Mr. Hurst's 151
evidence, page 54, on day 92, bottom of the page, question
274:
"Question: What connection was there between
Mr. Scappaticci and Mr. Corrigan?
Answer: Oh, Witness 82 told me that Mr.
Scappaticci effectively acted as the conduit
for information, in other words the handler of
Mr. Corrigan.
Question: That is Witness 82?
Answer: I apologise, yes.
Question: He told you that?
Answer: Yes."
So you will see, I think, from Mr. Hurst's evidence,
Mr. Corrigan, that everything he says about you was told to
him by Witness 82, you are aware of that?
A. That's right, yeah.
Q. So he says -- he comes to the Chairman and he says Witness 152
82 told me Corrigan was handled by Scappaticci, Witness 82
told me Corrigan was leaking information, Witness 82 told
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me that Corrigan had an involvement in Breen and Buchanan
murders.
Fortunately, Witness 82 is alive and well and he came to
the Tribunal on the 25th April 2012, and some of his
evidence is at tab 41.
And if you could go to page 157, I want to try and cut out
all of the long question, but at page 157, about five lines
from the top, I ask him:
"Are you aware of any document of that nature
referring to Owen Corrigan?"
That's a document referring to you as being a rogue guard.
And Witness 82 said:
"Answer: I have never seen a document
referring to Mr. Corrigan, as far as I can
recall."
Then, over the next page, page 158, at question 816, he is
asked the following -- Mr. Hurst was asked:
"Question: Further down, page 43, line 25, he
was asked 'are you saying that the
intelligence documents that you saw suggested
that Mr. Corrigan was leaking information to
the IRA' to which he said 'yes, yes'. I think
you have made it clear to the Chairman that you
haven't seen any such documents?
Answer: I have seen no such documents."
And then if you could go to the last -- page 160 in that
tab, and just question 821. At the end of question 821, he
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asked, Witness 82 is asked:
"Question: Did you have conversations with
Mr. Hurst about Mr. Corrigan?
Answer: Well, I had no information about
Mr. Corrigan, so, to the best of my knowledge,
I don't see how I could have had that
conversation with Mr. Hurst."
Then, if you go to the next tab, Mr. Corrigan.
A. What number is that, Mr. O'Callaghan?
Q. 42. 153
A. Yeah.
Q. And at question 888, it is put to Witness 82 the evidence 154
that was given by Mr. Hurst about you colluding with the
murders of Breen and Buchanan and you colluding with
Mr. Scappaticci, and the answer to question 888 from
Mr. Hurst, when he was asked did he have such a
conversation, and he says:
"Answer: No, no, not that I can recall. I am
not aware of any such relationship, as I have
said, between the individuals mentioned, and
therefore I can't see how I could have had that
conversation with him.
Question: He goes on to say, as you will see
further down the page starting at page 23, the
conversation took place in Thiepval, he said on
a football pitch and then he said in social
surroundings. As you say, you have no
recollection of this conversation, is that
right?
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Answer: Not only have I no recollection of it,
I am highly sceptical that I could have had
that conversation with him, inasmuch as I was
never in that possession of that information,
to the best of my knowledge."
And he continues there to state he never said these things
to Mr. Hurst. What does that lead you to believe about the
evidence given by Mr. Hurst?
A. Well, it proves that he is totally unreliable.
Q. And could I ask you to go to the last page in that tab, and 155
it's the transcript, it's in a different format, it's in
page 13, and it's entitled "Witness 82, D93". And just in
the middle of it, at line 13, I had asked Witness 82 why
did he think that Mr. Hurst was making up all these
allegations about you, and the question I put at question
911, is:
"Question: What do you believe, and it is only
your opinion, Major, what do you believe is
Mr. Hurst's motivation for his career, whereby
he is writing about his position in the FRU and
his telling, publicly, information he has about
intelligence, what do you believe is his
motivation in all of this?
Answer: Well, I think he has made a career out
of it, so I can only assume that it's because
of that. He has got a career in it, he is
earning money out of it."
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Do you believe that provides an explanation as to why
Mr. Hurst came here and gave false evidence about you?
A. Oh, I would accept that fully.
Q. And you are aware that Mr. Hurst said that he mentioned 156
your name to Garda Basil Walsh and Peter Maguire, he said
he came to the guards and he said "Corrigan is a bad egg,"
blah-blah-blah. They have given evidence, which is at tabs
43 and 44, I don't need to open it, of day 93 and 94, they
gave evidence stating that that simply didn't happen; you
are aware of that?
A. I am indeed, Mr. Chairman, yeah.
Q. Now, near the back of this book, Mr. Corrigan, you may 157
recall during your examination-in-chief by Mr. Dillon, that
at one stage you gave evidence about when you became aware
of Kevin Fulton, or Peter Keeley, for the first time; do
you remember Mr. Dillon was asking you and you said some
guard had approached you, Jim Sheridan had approached you
outside Dundalk Garda Station?
A. No, the other way around. I just asked him, I was passing
by the Garda station, he was coming out to his car.
Q. And there was -- I put the transcript of the evidence in 158
here, but ultimately, you said that you believed it was
sometime around 2000, but --
MR. DILLON: This may be of assistance. The Tribunal has
been able to make contact with now-Chief Superintendent
Sheridan, and he confirms there was a meeting. He does not
recollect what was said, but he confirms there was a
meeting when he was a Superintendent in Dundalk and that
was between the years 2005 and 2010.
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A. Well, I'm not in a position now to --
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Well, that's a helpful interjection.
A. Yeah, it's --
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Let me speak for a second, Mr. Corrigan.
That's a helpful interjection by Mr. Dillon, Chairman,
because there was some confusion. I think the reason why
the Tribunal was interested, Mr. Corrigan in his evidence
may have indicated it was much earlier.
A. That's right.
Q. But do you accept it was obviously between '05 and '10? 159
A. My consequent inquiries led me to believe it was ten years
later than I had originally thought it was, and that it was
in around 2009 or 2010.
Q. Okay. 160
Chairman, the good news is I am finished with Book 1, but
the bad news is I have a Book 2, I am afraid, but I'm going
to be able to get through it a lot quicker than Book 1.
Mr. Corrigan, Ms. McKevitt will hand up a book now which
will be of use. Do you have a copy, Mr. Corrigan?
A. Of which?
Q. Of Book 2? 161
A. No.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Chairman, I don't know if you have a
copy?
CHAIRMAN: I have a copy, yes. It's just been given to me
now.
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Q. MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Mr. Corrigan, we have finished now 162
dealing with Messrs Fulton and Keeley, and there is about
three or four more areas I want to deal with you, and the
first area I want to deal with is the famous SB50 from
1985, do you understand that?
A. Yes.
Q. And I want to start by asking you to look at Tab 1 of the 163
book which you have in front of you, and this is an excerpt
from the report of the Historical Inquiries Team into the
death of a man called William Francis McGreanary, okay.
The reason I refer you to it is the because, on the second
page on the tab, which is page 25, there is an assessment
of intelligence sources and intelligence material. I just
want to know do you agree with it, because it appears to
give a fairly balanced assessment of how intelligence
should be regarded. And the third paragraph from the
bottom of page 25, the report, which is from the PSNI
Historical Inquiries Unit says the following:
"Intelligence sources may be reliable or unreliable. There
are occasions when intelligence received is no more than
local gossip or rumour, or may even be given maliciously.
In all cases the intelligence has to be assessed, and steps
taken to ensure that it is disseminated to the
investigators of crime, due consideration is given to that
intelligence and acted upon where appropriate. Police take
every precaution to protect the identity of intelligence
sources."
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Now, would you agree with that, what appears to be balanced
assessment, of how you should approach intelligence
information?
A. Absolutely.
Q. Now, the SB50 that was generated in 1985, was that SB50 or 164
the content of it ever brought to your attention between
1985 and 1992 when you left the guards?
A. No, no.
Q. Did anyone from the RUC ever mention it to you? 165
A. No.
Q. Did any garda every mention it to you? 166
A. No, no. Sure the guards, as far as I know, they weren't
aware of it.
Q. Now, at Tab 2 we have Witness X, who was the officer who 167
received the SB50 and who was, I think, the assessing
officer in respect of it. And he says, he was asked by
Mr. Valentine, on Day 93, at question 548 the following:
"Question: Witness X, do you recall whether
the intelligence information recorded here was
first-hand knowledge; in other words, did the
source perceive with his own eyes Mr. Corrigan
helping out the boys or it was a secondhand
knowledge?
Answer: As far as I would have been aware it
would have been secondhand.
Question: And by that do you mean that he
heard someone else say that --
Answer: Yes, like --
Question: -- that this was the case?
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Answer: Like hearsay, the same category as
hearsay evidence.
Question: In the same category as hearsay
evidence?
Answer: Yes.
Question: In other words, the source who
provided this information to your officers had
heard someone else say that 'Owen Corrigan, a
Sergeant in Garda Special Branch in Dundalk is
helping out the Provisional IRA'.
Answer: In all probability, yeah.
Question: How many SB50s of this nature would
have dealt with on a -- in your job?
Answer: On average, anything from 50 to 60 per
day."
Then the next page, page 98, Witness X gives his assessment
of this SB50.
At question 587 he is questioned:
"Question: When he received this intelligence
in 1985 that indicated that Detective Sergeant
Corrigan was helping out the Provisional IRA,
did you believe it?
Answer: To be quite honest, it didn't really
-- it didn't concern me. From my own point of
view, I didn't believe it.
Question: How would you have -- how did you
characterise the intelligence in your own -- I
know the grading was medium, but why did you
not believe it?
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Answer: Well again, as I say, like, it just
seemed to me like gossip more than
intelligence.
Question: Did it affect how you continued to
deal professionally with Detective Sergeant
Corrigan after that?
Answer: No, it didn't, no.
Question: So you continued to meet him in
exactly the same fashion that you had prior to
June 1985?
Answer: Well, we had different arrangements
for meeting, but I was advised not to -- on one
occasion, I was advised not to go back to
Dundalk Garda Station by Detective Sergeant
Corrigan."
Mr. Corrigan, are you aware -- don't name him -- are you
aware of who Witness X is?
A. No.
Q. But you -- obviously, he is a man whom you worked with? 168
A. Oh, yes, yeah. And remember, like, I have a very sketchy
recollection of him being in Dundalk Station and I going
through this public reception area and seeing two leading
Provos downstairs awaiting service, and I wouldn't allow
them -- I went upstairs then and I wouldn't allow them to
leave the situation until I put surveillance on those two
men and to follow them until their ultimate destination,
and when they were cleared I put another two men to escort
them to the border. I was extremely conscious at all times
that the presence of RUC in or around Dundalk or this
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jurisdiction demanded that they be escorted at all times by
members of the Gardaí.
Q. What year would that have been about? That was when you 169
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A. Yes.
Q. Mr. Dillon, when questioning you, said, well why didn't 170
you, you know, of your own accord, state in March 1989,
when Breen and Buchanan were there or when other officers
were coming, why didn't you give directions to
Superintendent Connolly, or whoever, that the car should be
put in the back?
A. Sure I couldn't -- it wouldn't be my job to do that.
Q. But the hierarchy in a garda station is that there are 171
people in charge and there are people below?
A. That's right. And with their elevated status comes
responsibility.
Q. Are you aware of how, at that time, the RUC graded 172
intelligence information?
A. No, not really, no.
Q. The way -- 173
A. But I do know, without stopping you, Mr. O'Callaghan, I do
know that they had a much more lukewarm, or relaxed outlook
to informants. In other words, if one person was on leave
or anything, two or three or four members of the RUC would
know who that informant was. Where, with us, we kept
informants very, very close to our chest.
Q. You are aware that -- well are you aware that the 174
information, as opposed to the source, was graded from 1 to
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Q. And the best quality information is graded as 1? 175
A. Yeah.
Q. And the worst quality is graded as 6? 176
A. Yeah.
MR. DILLON: In fairness, I think the correct evidence
given by, I think it was Mr. McConville, should be put to
Mr. Corrigan, which is 6 meant it couldn't be tested.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Well, 6 couldn't be tested. But I don't
think there is any dispute that a 1 makes the information
more qualitatively better than a 6, I don't think there is
any dispute about that.
Q. Mr. Corrigan, I can't tell you what grading this SB50 got 177
in terms of the information because the PSNI won't let me
tell you and I can't question you about it, but I hope to
be able to return to the particular grading in due course.
A. I understand the position that you are in, Mr. O'Callaghan.
Q. Could you now go to tab 3, and I suppose the SB50 is 178
particularly interesting because an RUC officer who
received the information came here and identified to the
Chairman who his source was, which I think you'll accept,
Mr. Corrigan, is quite an unusual step, isn't that correct?
A. Not with the RUC. As I have explained already in my
earlier statement, they are quite expendable in the
operations of the RUC.
Q. Okay. At tab 3, we have Day 98, which is the evidence of 179
Witness Z, and the third question, slightly leading
question he is asked is:
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from John McAnulty?
Answer: I did, yes."
So the RUC former officer has put out into the public
domain that he got the information about you from John
McAnulty; you are aware of that?
A. That's right.
Q. And evidence was also given by another witness, Witness Q, 180
and if I could ask you to look at tab 4, Day 100, page 37,
which is the second page in tab 4, Witness Q says the
following in respect of question 223 --
A. Just give me a second, Mr. O'Callaghan. Second page, is
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Q. Yeah, tab 4, second page, and question 223 at the top of 181
the page.
"Question: Okay, so if it's graded C6 it
wouldn't be medium, isn't that so?
Answer: In all probability, yes, it would be
medium but the reliability would be just a bit
more in question as regards how true it was --
if it was possible, probable, or otherwise."
And if you go to the next tab, which is tab 5, we have
Witness Z, who is the other former RUC officer who helped
compile the SB50. And he says, tab 5, page 56, question
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"Question: And, sir, the grading is given a
letter and a number, isn't that so?
Answer: Correct.
Question: And can you just remind me, the
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Answer: On the bottom line, yes. And on the
top line the letters go A to F.
Question: Okay, and what does, say, a 6 mean,
if it was graded as a 6?
Answer: A 6 would be fairly unreliable."
So you have no reason to doubt that evidence that was given
by the former RUC officer, have you, Mr. Corrigan?
A. I have none, no. I think he didn't attach much
significance to it either.
Q. Okay. Now, if I could ask you to go to tab 8, please, and 182
it was put to you by Mr. Dillon that there was an option
for the RUC not to feed this SB50 into the system, do you
remember that?
A. No, I can't recall.
Q. If you look at tab 8, and if you go to question 274 on day 183
107?
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Q. "Question: Right, you are asked to apply your 184
policeman's mind -- now do you remember the
question?
Answer: No.
Question: -- to the circumstances where, on
the one hand, a witness says that what he has
received is tittle-tattle, very dangerous
tittle-tattle, doesn't warn you, doesn't warn
the handlers who provide the information, this
is all wrong, and in fact feeds it into the
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starts with the white slip."
And then if you go two pages forward, Mr. Corrigan, to page
63 of your examination, at line 12 -- I'll read out what
Mr. Dillon says from line 7. He says:
"No, I think I made it quite clear that the
superior officer didn't write any comment. I
didn't suggest for one moment, because I know
it is not the case, that an SB50 can be ripped
up, but I understand -- sorry, just bear with
me a second -- we can't do it today, I am
sorry, a witness needs to be called, but a
witness will be called who will deal with this
set of circumstances and I believe will confirm
the position that I have put to Mr. Corrigan;
namely, that it is possible if the -- if the
evidence is not believed or is considered not
believable, that that will be written on the
document itself or it can be dealt with in a
different way, but tearing it up does not
arise and I have never even suggested that the
document be torn up."
You are aware that question was put to you by Mr. Dillon?
A. Yes.
Q. And then a witness was called. Are you aware that Mr. 185
McConville came to give evidence on this point on day 108?
A. I was, yes.
Q. If you look at tab 9, I asked Mr. McConville whether or not 186
it was possible not to feed an SB50 into the system, as was
suggested, and at question 294, on day 108, I asked Mr.
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McConville:
"Question: And questions were put to
Mr. Corrigan last week by counsel for the
Tribunal suggesting that Witness X, who was the
submitting officer, would have been able not to
feed this SB50 into the system, would that have
been possible?
Answer: My understanding is that it wouldn't
have been possible. It would have been in the
system.
Question. Sorry, I didn't --
Answer: I will go slower. My understanding --
my knowledge -- my understanding would be that
it would not be possible.
Chairman: It would not be possible?
Answer: It would not be possible. It would
have been in the system on every occasion."
So, do you see from the evidence given by Mr. McConville
there, Mr. Corrigan, that once the SB50 was generated, it
couldn't be not fed into the system; you are aware of that?
A. I am aware of that, yes.
Q. Now, at tab 11, there is further questioning of Witness Z, 187
and rather than go through it all, I just want to say to
you what he said. He said he decided to give evidence here
when he became -- was made aware that there had been
disciplinary hearings instigated against you in relation to
the night that Mr. McAnulty was murdered?
A. Yeah...
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instigated against --
A. Never.
Q. -- you for allegedly going missing on the night before? 189
Never?
A. Never.
Q. Okay. It's obviously difficult to remember what you were 190
doing back in July 1989 when, or was it August 1989, when
Mr. McAnulty was murdered, but you have now had the benefit
of a C77 that you generated before he was murdered, isn't
that so?
A. That's right.
Q. With the benefit of that C77, what do you believe you were 191
doing on the evening that Mr. McAnulty was kidnapped?
A. I was endeavouring to save the man's life.
CHAIRMAN: Well, could you explain how you were doing that?
A. Well, I was making contact -- there was a question of
moving the body, he was being moved from one place to
another in a certain area of north Louth, you know.
CHAIRMAN: He was dead at that stage?
A. Yeah... well I didn't know... I wasn't in a position to say
specifically, but it transpired he was.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: So you produced a C77 after Mr. McAnulty
was kidnapped but before you were aware he was murdered?
A. That's right, yes.
Q. In order to put that information into that C77, would you 192
have had to go out and about and meet people and contact
your sources?
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A. Absolutely. It would have been easier for me to stay, hang
around the station and do nothing about it but I was out at
all times trying to save the man's life.
Q. Now, at tab 12, there is further evidence from Witness Z 193
that's relevant to the issue of Mr. McAnulty's safety. And
at tab 12, day 98, page 18, Witness Z is questioned at
question 50 as follows:
"Now, I think you learned, following his death,
that your source went around with an axe in his
car, is that right?
Answer: Yeah, I believe that after his death
the investigation turned up the thing that he
had become concerned for his safety and had
started to carry a hatchet in his car. I was
not aware of that prior to him actually being
murdered."
Would you agree with me that the unfortunate Mr. McAnulty,
if he was travelling around with an axe in his car, he was
concerned for his personal safety?
A. Yes, he was.
Q. Would you agree with me that he must have been aware that 194
there was a threat to his safety if he is travelling with
an axe in his car?
A. It would appear so, yeah.
Q. And indeed, Mr. Prenty gave evidence, and it's at tab 12A 195
of the book, he gave evidence on day 112, when he was
critical of your C77, but he did give relevant evidence as
to the level of knowledge about Mr. McAnulty's position.
And he said, at day 112, answer at line 10 --
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CHAIRMAN: I don't seem to be able to find that.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Sorry, Chairman, is there a 12A in your
book?
CHAIRMAN: There is no 12A.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: I apologise, Chairman, it's up on the
screen. This is the answer Mr. Prenty gave in respect of
your C77. And he said:
"Well, I have given evidence in relation to
piggy-backing and whatnot and the rest of it,
and misuse of information. Sending in a C77
saying that John McAnulty was smuggling and
that he was likely to bring in stuff into the
Northern Ireland and that the IRA would have
been become suspicious of him, would be, with
all due respects, tripe, as far as I was
concerned, because, as I say, every policeman
and every customs man in the border was aware
of what McAnulty was at..."
Now, I just want to pause there. I know you don't agree
with Mr. Prenty's assessment of your C77, but do you agree
with him where he says that everyone was aware, police
officers and customs officers were aware of Mr. McAnulty
and what he was at; that people were aware that the IRA
were suspicious of him?
A. That's right.
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Q. Okay. So it is not as show -- is it the case that you were 196
the only person who was aware that the IRA was suspicious
of John McAnulty?
A. Oh, no, absolutely not.
Q. Now, at tab 13, there is a lengthy excerpt from your 197
evidence on day 107 and 108, and you were questioned
extensively and repeatedly by Mr. Dillon as to why you
didn't warn John McAnulty that his life was danger. Do you
recall that?
A. I do, yeah.
Q. And I'll just give you some of the examples of it. On page 198
54, day 107 the first one: Question 243:
"Question: Why was no step taken to warn him?
Answer: Oh, I can't say now.
Question: Surely if you know that somebody is
in danger of being murdered, you take steps to
make sure that person is warned, isn't that
right?
Answer: Perhaps, yes.
Question: And you didn't do that, did you?
Answer: No, I didn't.
Question: Why?
Answer: I don't know.
Question: We know that Mr. McAnulty was the
man who reported you as being an informant for
the IRA, isn't that right?
Answer: Yes.
Question: Had that anything to do with it?
Answer: Pardon?
Question: Had that anything to do with it?
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Answer: No, I don't know, I can't speak for
Mr. McAnulty."
So Mr. Dillon is saying there to you why didn't you warn
Mr. McAnulty, but he is also suggesting to you that you had
knowledge of the SB50 in 1989 when Mr. McAnulty was
murdered, is that correct?
A. No, it's not.
Q. You didn't know anything about it?199
A. No, I didn't know it until this Tribunal sat.
Q. And is there any evidence you are aware of in this Tribunal 200
indicating that if it was brought to your attention, has
anyone ever said that in this Tribunal?
A. No.
Q. Now, if you go over the next page, page 66, question 277:201
"Question: Well now, let's just -- it comes
back to the question why wasn't he warned?
Answer: I don't know. I can't say that,
Mr. Dillon.
Question: And I am sorry to come back to the
point but you didn't warn him, isn't that
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Answer: I didn't, no.
Question: And you had this information?
Answer: I had, yes.
Question: Which might have saved his life?
Answer: Pardon?
Question: It might have saved his life if
he had been warned?
Answer. It might have, yes."
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Can I just ask you that, what information did you have,
Mr. Corrigan, or did you have information suggesting that
Mr. McAnulty was going to be attacked or murdered, or was
it just general information about him that you had?
A. It was general information, you know, and there was an air
of apprehension in the area at the time, you know.
CHAIRMAN: It must have been a very strong feeling that he
was in danger. You say you felt his life was in danger?
A. That's right, because, you see, it was part of a time when
the IRA had taken. They went from time to time in periods
in the campaign where they dealt with persons who were
perceived to be giving information, and anyone that was
arrested in Northern Ireland, as Mr. McAnulty was, and on
very extensive charges and was released without being
charged, that immediately set off the alarm bells within
the investigative unit. They had their own investigative
unit, and it set off the alarm bells in the investigative
unit in relation to why, and that's why anyone that was
arrested and released without being charged was inevitably
kidnapped and interviewed, and, naturally enough, in a lot
of cases, the Gardaí would never become aware of that
because the people were afraid to report it.
Q. MR. O'CALLAGHAN: But is it the case, Mr. Corrigan, that no 202
source came to you and said John McAnulty is going to be
murdered?
A. No, no.
Q. No one said that? 203
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A. No.
Q. Just so as we're clear for the Chairman? 204
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Q. Or, no one came to you and said "John McAnulty is going to 205
be shot", is that correct?
A. No. And I mean, John McAnulty wasn't the only one that was
the source of similar threats; it was part of everyday
occurrence around the border.
CHAIRMAN: But you felt he was in danger?
A. Yes, as were a number of others.
CHAIRMAN: Yes...
A. Once any person became anything of an audacious nature,
they immediately brought themselves under the telescope
and, as I said to you, Mr. Chairman, from time to time,
sometimes it was okay, there was no action taken, and other
times there were, action was taken and the next thing was
you'd find them executed or their body dumped, in Northern
Ireland specifically.
Q. MR. O'CALLAGHAN: And Mr. McAnulty was involved in 206
smuggling, is that so?
A. Yes.
Q. Is it your evidence to the Chairman that anyone involved in 207
smuggling across the border at that time was under threat
from the IRA?
A. Yes, precisely, yes.
Q. Okay, so that's the source for your belief that he was -- 208
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kind when they are arrested. You see, this smuggling, you
are talking about 40 tonne of grain that is a subsidy from
the EU and that could be worth £3,000 to the smuggler each
time he crossed the border and had it stamped at the
outgoing customs post at Carrigenagh. So the more runs he
could do, it could accumulate into huge money. So that's
why I'm saying that it was periodic clampdown by the RUC in
relation to other members on the border. But some of the
members on the border were purely using the IRA for their
own self-preservation, Mr. Chairman.
Q. And we have seen Mr. Prenty give evidence to the Chairman 209
that he was aware that the IRA would have been suspicious
of John McAnulty. From your --
A. I don't know, I can't comment.
Q. From your experience, do you think other members of An 210
Garda Siochana, would, like Mr. Prenty, have been aware
that the IRA would have been suspicious of Mr. McAnulty?
A. Yes.
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Ireland?
A. In Northern Ireland.
Q. Okay. 212
A. He lived in Warrenpoint.
Q. Now, so if you were trying to notify him, would you agree 213
with me that the most appropriate way to do it would be to
contact the Royal Ulster Constabulary?
A. Yes.
Q. Now, in your evidence, and in fairness to you, you say 214
about this, but you're not sure, but do you believe that
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you did contact the RUC?
A. Well, as I said, as I explained to you before,
Mr. Chairman, I can't say that I did and I can't say that I
didn't, and I had no reason for not having done so, because
everything else with the two leaders in Newry, which was
Number 27 and the other man now, I don't know his name,
they were the two men who were in charge in Newry during my
13 years, and anything that I had that was of benefit to
those, because they were -- both of them were here and
spoke very highly of me, and I didn't know -- I just want
to elaborate -- I didn't know any RUC men just to meet and
greet, I knew the two brave officers who were killed, but I
didn't know... there were a couple of other officers, now,
that... I don't know whether they are here or not because
they were appearing behind screens, but those two men in
Newry, I would have no reason to doubt why I didn't, but I
couldn't recall actually telling them about Mr. McAnulty.
Q. Okay. One of the things the Tribunal say is that there is 215
no document evidencing you telling the RUC about the threat
to Mr. McAnulty. Would it always be the case that if you
were passing on information to the RUC, that you would do
so in writing?
A. No. We'd never do it in writing.
Q. Okay. So if you did inform the RUC, it would have been 216
done at a meeting or over the phone, perhaps?
A. Absolutely... well, no, no, at a meeting, at a meeting on a
day to day... I was meeting those men at least twice every
week, so I don't... cannot categorically say that I did or
I didn't. I can't remember everything.
Q. Okay, you can't remember?217
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A. No.
Q. But on balance, looking back at how you operated your 218
career, do you think, on the balance of probabilities, you
probably did inform the --
A. I did. Well I have no reason to doubt because everything I
had otherwise within reason I passed it to them.
MR. DILLON: I am sorry to have to intervene again, but the
matter about there being a document was in relation to
evidence that Mr. Corrigan had given that he had reported
to his authorities, not to the RUC.
A. I don't think that was --
MR. DILLON: That's day 108 at page 31, question 120 and
the further questions.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Just on that point, Mr. Corrigan. Did
you... do you recall bringing it to the attention of the
Garda Siochana?
A. Oh, yes. Well I would, Mr. Dillon reminds me of that, but
despite that, that wouldn't alter the fact of whether I did
or did not inform the RUC. It doesn't add to or subtract
from the point of conjecture which is being alleged here,
or has been alleged.
Q. Now, if you go to the second-last page in the tab 13, it's 219
page number 54, and again it's from the examination of you
by Mr. Dillon, day 108. It's the second-last page, page
54, question 209. And question 209 is as follows:
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rightly or wrongly, I am not for one moment
suggesting this is correct, but there was
always the danger that Mr. McAnulty might
report back that you had some alleged
involvement in the murders of Harry Breen and
Bob Buchanan, isn't that right?
Answer: Oh, I can't answer that.
Question: Because you see, this is what the
Chairman has to deal with which is there is a
persistent allegation that you had an
involvement in the murders of Harry Breen and
Bob Buchanan, which you deny?
Answer: From who?
Question: We know that. We know that.
Answer: From who?
Question: Well from Jeffrey Donaldson, from
Kevin Fulton, and we will deal with those."
At the time of the murders of Breen and Buchanan, Mr.
McAnulty was alive, isn't that correct?
A. That's right.
Q. And we know that Mr. McAnulty was providing information to 220
the RUC about you, because he did provide that in 1985,
isn't that so?
A. That's right.
Q. And you are aware that he provided no further intelligence 221
about you after that, are you?
A. Well I'm not aware that he did.
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But, at the time of the murders, if Mr. McAnulty had
suspicions about you, he could have reported that to his
superiors, couldn't he?
A. He could have, yes.
Q. Because he was alive at that time. Now, at the next page, 223
is page 55, and this is the eighth occasion, at question
217, this is the eighth occasion upon which you were
questioned by Mr. Dillon as to why you didn't warn this
man, McAnulty. You recall you were asked that on numerous
occasions?
A. Yes.
Q. At question 217. 224
"Question: Good. I want to finish off now
with Mr. McAnulty. You see, I have to put it
to you that the evidence that you gave about
how you handled information that you had before
Mr. McAnulty was murdered is, to use a cliche,
it's a bit of a game changer because we know
now, the Chairman now knows, let's be quite
correct on this, that it was within your gift
to spare a man's life and you didn't do it?
Answer: I wouldn't say I didn't do it."
Now, effectively, there, counsel for the Tribunal are
suggesting to you that you allowed this man to die and you
didn't save his life when you could have saved his life.
Is that correct?
A. No, it's not correct. It's absolutely untrue and
mispresentation(sic) of the facts as they were. I did all
in my power, and I cannot say whether I did or I did not; I
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have already explained that.
Q. But, like, you had no specific information, isn't it 225
correct, at the time that Mr. McAnulty was kidnapped that
he was going to be kidnapped, is that so?
A. No, absolutely.
Q. And all you had, is it correct, was a general suspicion 226
that because he was involved in smuggling, he was going to
be under threat from the IRA, isn't that so?
A. That's right.
Q. And that's something that Mr. Prenty has told us that 227
effectively everyone was aware of that, isn't that correct?
A. That's right.
Q. Now, the last thing I'll finish on today, Mr. Chairman, is 228
tab 14. You are aware of Tom Curran, is that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. He is a Superintendent that was based in Dundalk, is that 229
correct?
A. Monaghan.
Q. Monaghan, I beg your pardon, Monaghan. I want to read out 230
to you the evidence he gave to the Chairman on day 14 in
response to question 82. It's at page 15 of day 14, it's
the first page in tab 14.
Counsel for the Tribunal asked him:
"Now, was there another episode that happened
during those years that you felt was of value
to the Tribunal as coming within its terms of
reference?
Answer: Yes. Well, Mr. Chairman, at one stage
in my service in Monaghan during Bob Buchanan's
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time there I was speaking to a man whom I
believed was a member of the IRA, and he told
me that Bob Buchanan was going to be shot, and
the words that he used, he says 'there is a
fella crossing the border there to see you and
he is going to be shot; he is on the list to be
shot.' You're never sure about the validity of
stories like that from informants but it was a
serious matter as far as I was concerned. I
wrote directly to Crime and Security giving
them that information."
Later on at question 85 he was asked:
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Answer: Well I believed him as much as I
could."
So, you are aware that Tom Curran, and this occurred some
six to nine months before Superintendent Buchanan was
murdered...
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Q. That Tom Curran had information from a source who he 231
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A. That's right.
Q. And are you aware that he wasn't asked one question by 232
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Buchanan? Are you aware of that?
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Q. And as I said to you, you were questioned, or asked on at 233
least eight occasions by counsel for the Tribunal why you
didn't bring the information about Mr. McAnulty to his
attention, isn't that so?
A. Yes.
Q. And it reached its crescendo when you have been accused of 234
not using your gift to spare man's life. Do you believe
that you were treated unfairly and differently to Mr.
Curran since he had information pertaining to a man who is
the subject matter of this inquiry and he was never
questioned about why he didn't approach him?
A. Oh, well that runs through the treatment that I received
right through from the Tribunal lawyers, that there was no
sense of fair play. The Tribunal's time was taken up with
repeat questions to me, which were very, very irrelevant
questions. And the fact that Mr. Curran received specific
information of the impending murder of one of the people
who has since lost his life and the Tribunal lawyers didn't
see fit to pursue this matter, I'll leave that to the
Chairman.
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Chairman, I see it's coming to one
o'clock now. I'm not finished, there is another hour in my
examination. The rest of this book will be quicker,
Chairman, because I won't be opening all of the documents,
but, with your leave, Chairman, I'll stop there.
MR. DILLON: Very well, Chairman, that brings us to the end
of today, and indeed to the end of this term, if I can put
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it that way.
One matter I should mention, and it's this: that mention
has been made of C77s relating to Fintan Callan's Ceili
House and relating to Mr. Scappaticci, and apparently we
have now learned that Messrs. Lawlor and Partners, who ares
the solicitors for Mr. Corrigan, have written to the Chief
State Solicitor asking for these documents. Now, the
position is that at this remove, I do not know whether
these documents have in fact already been disclosed to the
Tribunal. This has taken me, I won't say by surprise
because that sounds pejorative, I don't mean at that way,
but this is the first I have heard of it and I can't
recollect whether we already have those documents. But if
we don't, the Commissioner is under continuing obligation
to make disclosure and they should be -- in fact they have
to be provided to the Tribunal as soon as they become
available. But I make that point just to round off on that
question.
That being the case, there is nothing further for today and
it seems that we will reconvene at the earliest on the 28th
August.
CHAIRMAN: Unless, Mr. O'Callaghan, do you want to continue
cross-examination today?
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Well, I have spoken to Mr. Corrigan about
this beforehand, Mr. Chairman, and I am conscious of what
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CHAIRMAN: When do you propose that he will continue?
MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Whenever the Tribunal wants to.
MR. DILLON: Exactly, Chairman. I think that we will
reconvene -- as I said earlier on this morning, we expect
to deal with the issue of the redactions of Mr.
McConville's evidence, and that and the other matter of the
recently received intelligence, hopefully we will have made
progress on that. These are matters that the Tribunal
needs to go into, in fairness to Mr. Corrigan, as I
mentioned this morning, so that when Mr. Corrigan will come
back, it will be as soon as possible and for as short a
period as possible, of course, but we cannot say for sure
at this point a precise date, but it will be hopefully
towards the end of August.
CHAIRMAN: Very good. I think everybody will be informed
of the time, the date and time of the next sitting and the
venue in that case. Thank you very much.
MR. DURACK: I should say, just in relation to the matter
Mr. Dillon raised in relation to disclosure of those
documents, my understanding is that they have already been
disclosed to the Tribunal, but I'll confirm that.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much, Mr. Durack.
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4:20, 5:3, 5:8, 5:9, 5:19,
5:20, 7:23, 8:1, 8:13, 11:25, 12:8, 12:13, 12:28, 13:5, 13:6, 13:27, 14:28, 15:25, 20:18, 22:16, 23:3, 25:4, 25:7, 25:20, 25:23, 26:2, 26:16, 30:1, 31:15, 35:12, 35:16, 35:17, 36:1, 36:11, 36:21, 37:12, 39:4, 39:9, 39:17, 39:21, 40:1, 40:24, 41:7, 41:12, 43:8, 43:10, 43:11, 48:15, 51:9, 51:22, 52:24, 52:27, 52:28, 55:21, 55:27, 56:26, 57:10, 58:20, 60:4, 60:10, 60:14, 63:13, 63:25, 65:17, 65:18, 66:17, 66:27, 68:5, 70:23, 70:25, 71:21, 71:22, 71:26, 72:26, 73:15, 73:22, 74:21, 74:26, 74:27, 74:28, 75:2, 76:11, 77:23, 79:12, 79:16, 82:26, 82:28, 84:11, 84:14, 85:18, 85:26, 85:28, 85:29
axe [3] - 73:9, 73:19, 73:24
Bbackground [1] - 4:5backing [1] - 74:13backup [2] - 7:6, 35:23bad [6] - 26:6, 31:4,
33:26, 51:28, 60:6, 61:18
balance [2] - 81:2, 81:3balanced [2] - 62:16, 63:1bald [1] - 44:30Ballycastle/Dunloy [1] -
32:30Bandit [1] - 32:6bang [1] - 33:10bar [2] - 17:16, 17:17based [2] - 29:26, 84:16Basil [1] - 60:5basis [3] - 11:21, 24:28,
34:26BBC [1] - 32:3BE [1] - 4:1bear [2] - 32:18, 70:10became [9] - 9:16, 30:1,
31:5, 35:16, 36:21, 39:21, 60:14, 71:26, 78:14
become [5] - 37:12, 73:13, 74:18, 77:23, 87:17
been' [1] - 19:9beforehand [1] - 87:29beg [1] - 84:19began [2] - 29:24, 30:2beginning [1] - 69:30behalf [1] - 45:13
behaviour [3] - 30:26, 31:8, 56:3
behind [3] - 13:2, 38:15, 80:15
belief [3] - 4:6, 22:9, 78:29
believable [1] - 70:18bell [1] - 33:6bells [2] - 77:17, 77:19below [1] - 66:14benefit [5] - 35:19, 72:8,
72:12, 78:30, 80:8Bernard [2] - 8:1, 8:12best [4] - 53:25, 58:5,
59:5, 67:1better [6] - 2:7, 10:23,
22:5, 34:11, 34:14, 67:12
between [11] - 8:8, 22:25, 25:5, 30:22, 34:2, 34:5, 56:13, 58:21, 60:30, 61:12, 63:6
big [1] - 11:6bit [4] - 1:5, 27:20, 68:18,
83:18blacken [1] - 11:1blackening [1] - 11:11blah [3] - 60:7blah-blah-blah [1] - 60:7Blair [5] - 14:4, 16:27,
20:19, 37:9, 37:16block [1] - 2:14boastful [1] - 23:3boasting [1] - 8:27Bob [4] - 82:6, 82:12,
84:30, 85:3body [2] - 72:18, 78:19bomb [4] - 42:11, 42:13,
42:15bomb-find [4] - 42:11,
42:13, 42:15bombing [4] - 36:25,
36:29, 37:4, 37:18bond [1] - 8:22book [11] - 12:19, 32:6,
32:11, 48:30, 49:3, 60:12, 61:20, 62:9, 73:27, 74:5, 86:25
Book [4] - 61:17, 61:18, 61:19, 61:23
books [1] - 49:6border [12] - 7:27, 15:23,
23:21, 31:28, 65:29, 74:21, 78:8, 78:26, 79:4, 79:8, 79:9, 85:5
bottom [7] - 24:25, 36:15, 49:8, 53:13, 56:11, 62:18, 69:1
boys [2] - 35:14, 63:23branch [2] - 15:6, 30:1Branch [3] - 5:1, 16:10,
64:9branch-off [1] - 15:6branches [1] - 15:22brave [1] - 80:12bravery [1] - 9:28Breen [18] - 4:14, 4:16,
7:12, 13:27, 13:30,
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19:1, 20:18, 20:22, 35:30, 36:10, 50:8, 50:24, 57:1, 58:15, 66:8, 82:5, 82:11, 82:19
brief [1] - 1:6briefly [1] - 4:10bring [2] - 74:16, 86:4bringing [1] - 81:18brings [1] - 86:29Britain [4] - 26:27, 27:1,
27:10, 27:13British [24] - 22:10,
22:28, 23:14, 23:21, 25:3, 30:18, 30:20, 32:9, 33:30, 34:11, 34:13, 35:3, 35:8, 38:6, 38:10, 38:24, 39:17, 40:1, 40:5, 40:13, 41:2, 41:9, 41:10, 41:12
brought [9] - 7:3, 31:21, 50:7, 51:20, 51:21, 52:21, 63:6, 76:12, 78:15
Buchanan [22] - 4:14, 4:17, 7:12, 13:26, 13:30, 19:2, 20:17, 20:22, 36:1, 36:10, 50:8, 50:24, 57:1, 58:15, 66:8, 82:6, 82:12, 82:19, 85:3, 85:19, 85:24, 85:28
Buchanan's [1] - 84:30build [1] - 51:29builds [1] - 8:22bulky [2] - 44:7, 44:25Burns [1] - 5:12bus [1] - 31:22bus-loads [1] - 31:22business [1] - 8:6BY [1] - 4:1
CC6 [1] - 68:15C77 [12] - 16:1, 16:2,
16:16, 16:17, 72:9, 72:12, 72:25, 72:28, 73:28, 74:11, 74:14, 74:25
C77s [4] - 16:1, 51:15, 52:25, 87:4
Cahill [1] - 9:27Callan [1] - 17:1Callan's [14] - 14:5,
14:30, 15:2, 15:12, 15:25, 16:2, 16:23, 16:29, 17:1, 17:9, 20:28, 41:16, 48:3, 87:4
campaign [1] - 77:13Campbell [5] - 32:24,
32:29, 33:5, 33:6, 33:9cannot [3] - 80:28, 83:30,
88:16canvassed [1] - 1:11car [15] - 13:18, 14:4,
14:28, 17:2, 17:13, 17:22, 38:15, 41:15, 60:20, 66:10, 73:10,
73:14, 73:19, 73:24care [1] - 3:8career [4] - 59:21, 59:26,
59:28, 81:3careful [1] - 8:26carried [2] - 8:9, 27:12Carrigenagh [1] - 79:5carry [3] - 26:27, 55:23,
73:14carrying [2] - 27:4, 39:3case [14] - 1:10, 3:8, 8:26,
10:2, 22:1, 41:15, 55:3, 63:30, 70:9, 75:1, 77:26, 80:20, 87:21, 88:22
cases [2] - 62:24, 77:23Castleblayney [1] - 15:5catch [1] - 27:4categorically [1] - 80:28category [2] - 64:1, 64:3Catholic [1] - 32:24caught [3] - 17:26, 18:9,
31:13caused [2] - 27:8, 31:26Ceili [1] - 87:4certain [10] - 7:21, 22:1,
26:1, 26:2, 26:9, 33:20, 34:5, 46:9, 49:5, 72:19
certainly [10] - 1:22, 2:29, 10:24, 14:6, 14:24, 16:11, 29:8, 34:10, 54:8, 55:1
CHAIRMAN [23] - 1:26, 2:5, 2:11, 2:27, 3:1, 7:11, 11:1, 12:22, 33:18, 40:18, 55:15, 61:29, 72:16, 72:21, 74:2, 74:7, 77:9, 78:10, 78:13, 87:25, 88:3, 88:20, 88:29
Chairman [66] - 1:3, 1:21, 2:16, 4:4, 4:19, 5:5, 6:27, 7:23, 8:3, 8:24, 9:3, 9:18, 9:30, 10:2, 11:5, 12:19, 15:24, 16:24, 16:26, 21:25, 23:6, 25:8, 26:19, 30:19, 30:21, 32:19, 34:29, 38:8, 40:9, 43:13, 47:6, 47:10, 48:9, 51:18, 52:16, 55:17, 55:21, 56:7, 56:28, 57:25, 60:11, 61:7, 61:17, 61:26, 67:22, 71:15, 74:4, 74:9, 78:2, 78:16, 78:25, 79:10, 79:11, 80:3, 82:9, 83:19, 84:13, 84:20, 84:29, 86:21, 86:23, 86:26, 86:27, 86:29, 87:29, 88:7
Chairman's [2] - 11:11, 55:28
changed [1] - 25:16changer [1] - 83:18changes [1] - 52:19characterise [1] - 64:28
charge [3] - 66:4, 66:14, 80:7
charged [5] - 7:4, 32:16, 55:11, 77:17, 77:21
charges [1] - 77:16check [1] - 9:23chest [1] - 66:26chicken [1] - 48:10Chief [5] - 4:16, 13:26,
20:17, 60:26, 87:7chief [1] - 60:13child [1] - 32:21Cipher [2] - 49:17, 50:20circles [1] - 6:30circulation [1] - 35:25circumstances [2] -
69:23, 70:14civil [1] - 56:8civilian [1] - 5:4clampdown [1] - 79:7clarification [1] - 43:25clear [4] - 43:15, 57:25,
70:6, 78:2cleared [1] - 65:28clearly [1] - 26:22cliche [1] - 83:17clientele [1] - 15:13close [2] - 31:28, 66:26Co [2] - 42:23, 55:10cognisance [1] - 32:8colleagues [2] - 34:20,
55:4collect [1] - 32:22collecting [1] - 11:8collective [1] - 52:1Collins [3] - 19:5, 19:15,
20:20colluded [2] - 12:10, 19:1colluding [7] - 34:25,
35:22, 37:28, 49:11, 49:15, 58:14, 58:15
collusion [10] - 4:14, 30:22, 30:27, 32:15, 34:2, 34:4, 54:4, 56:3, 56:8
Colonel [2] - 6:24, 6:25colour [2] - 44:17, 45:7coming [12] - 10:25, 32:1,
35:10, 38:15, 46:21, 51:23, 55:1, 60:20, 66:9, 84:27, 86:23
commander [3] - 13:17, 13:28, 20:19
Commanders [1] - 31:18comment [3] - 55:29,
70:7, 79:14comments [2] - 54:15Commissioner [3] -
10:26, 52:7, 87:15common [2] - 28:3, 49:5Commons [1] - 25:23communication [1] -
50:25compile [1] - 68:24complain [1] - 31:21complaint [1] - 34:8completely [2] - 21:17,
40:30complex [2] - 27:30,
32:13compulsive [1] - 29:15con [1] - 29:15concern [2] - 10:21,
64:25concerned [4] - 73:13,
73:20, 74:20, 85:9concession [1] - 15:7concrete [1] - 11:21condition [1] - 56:5conducted [3] - 5:27,
5:30, 7:24conducting [1] - 55:22conduit [1] - 56:16confirm [3] - 16:19,
70:14, 88:27confirmed [1] - 1:23confirms [2] - 60:27,
60:28confusing [1] - 42:22confusion [1] - 61:8conjecture [1] - 81:23connection [1] - 56:13Connolly [11] - 6:1, 6:3,
7:16, 7:28, 8:4, 8:10, 8:29, 9:4, 9:12, 42:19, 66:10
Connolly's [2] - 6:14, 9:11
Conroy [2] - 9:17, 9:18conscious [2] - 65:29,
87:29consequence [1] - 21:30consequent [1] - 61:13Conservative [1] - 32:9Conservative-led [1] -
32:9consider [2] - 2:17, 2:18considerable [2] - 27:2,
27:8consideration [1] - 62:26considered [1] - 70:17Constabulary [1] - 79:27contact [5] - 60:26,
72:17, 72:29, 79:27, 80:1
contained [1] - 13:12contemplate [1] - 15:10content [2] - 53:22, 63:6contention [1] - 10:19contents [1] - 5:9context [1] - 50:26continue [4] - 3:9, 87:25,
87:30, 88:3continued [3] - 31:6,
65:4, 65:8CONTINUED [1] - 4:1continues [2] - 19:30,
59:7continuing [2] - 1:4,
87:15conversation [9] - 1:7,
49:24, 50:2, 58:7, 58:18, 58:23, 58:26, 58:29, 59:3
conversations [1] - 58:2
convey [2] - 22:30, 23:1conveyed [1] - 1:24convicted [1] - 31:13convince [1] - 30:21convinced [1] - 22:6copy [3] - 61:21, 61:27,
61:29correct [40] - 4:21, 5:22,
5:23, 6:2, 7:25, 14:15, 19:6, 20:25, 21:5, 29:19, 36:4, 37:5, 37:10, 37:11, 40:19, 40:28, 43:28, 43:30, 47:24, 47:25, 48:7, 48:8, 54:22, 55:7, 67:6, 67:23, 68:28, 68:30, 76:7, 78:5, 82:2, 82:20, 83:20, 83:27, 83:28, 84:3, 84:6, 84:11, 84:14, 84:17
correspondence [1] - 52:11
corrigan [1] - 51:9Corrigan [110] - 1:4, 1:8,
1:30, 2:20, 2:24, 4:5, 8:5, 8:9, 9:24, 9:25, 10:2, 11:10, 12:9, 12:25, 12:29, 13:1, 13:19, 13:20, 13:29, 14:14, 17:20, 17:21, 17:29, 18:3, 18:17, 18:23, 18:24, 20:1, 20:3, 20:5, 20:13, 21:24, 22:27, 23:12, 24:26, 33:29, 34:24, 35:10, 35:14, 35:21, 35:26, 36:1, 36:21, 36:26, 39:15, 39:25, 40:2, 40:24, 41:25, 45:16, 46:7, 46:8, 47:23, 48:20, 49:11, 49:15, 49:20, 49:28, 50:1, 50:21, 50:30, 51:3, 53:7, 53:18, 54:10, 55:15, 55:19, 55:21, 56:14, 56:18, 56:25, 56:29, 56:30, 57:1, 57:11, 57:15, 57:23, 58:3, 58:5, 58:9, 60:6, 60:12, 61:6, 61:9, 61:20, 61:21, 62:2, 63:22, 64:8, 64:22, 65:6, 65:15, 65:17, 67:8, 67:14, 67:23, 69:8, 70:3, 70:15, 71:3, 71:20, 77:3, 77:26, 81:10, 81:17, 87:7, 87:28, 88:13, 88:14
CORRIGAN [1] - 4:1Corrigan's [1] - 37:13corroborating [1] - 48:16Cory [25] - 12:28, 13:4,
13:9, 13:25, 14:21, 18:19, 18:20, 20:14, 20:16, 20:27, 20:30, 21:9, 21:11, 21:18, 21:20, 21:22, 21:25, 21:29, 22:2, 22:7,
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22:10, 22:12, 22:13, 22:22, 25:11
Cory's [1] - 22:16Cory.. [1] - 20:11counsel [7] - 4:23, 54:17,
71:3, 83:24, 84:24, 85:27, 86:3
count [1] - 47:9counter [1] - 31:3counter-attack [1] - 31:3country [2] - 6:19, 39:10Country [1] - 32:6County [2] - 6:29, 31:14couple [2] - 31:22, 80:13course [16] - 9:29, 11:22,
18:26, 22:15, 29:28, 33:4, 33:21, 38:10, 38:12, 40:3, 40:4, 41:3, 49:2, 52:11, 67:17, 88:16
Court [1] - 7:4cover [1] - 34:23covert [1] - 29:25crashing [2] - 6:8, 6:10crashing' [1] - 6:12created [2] - 27:20, 33:22credence [1] - 52:28crescendo [1] - 86:7crime [3] - 7:7, 51:28,
62:26Crime [1] - 85:10Criminal [1] - 7:4criminals [1] - 31:12critical [1] - 73:28cross [2] - 53:4, 87:26CROSS [1] - 4:1cross-examination [2] -
53:4, 87:26CROSS-EXAMINED [1] -
4:1crossed [1] - 79:4crossing [1] - 85:5Crossmaglen [2] - 15:6,
16:13crowd [1] - 9:22Crowley [3] - 10:21,
10:22, 10:23Cullaville [2] - 15:8,
16:13Curragh [1] - 6:29Curran [6] - 10:20, 84:14,
85:18, 85:22, 86:10, 86:17
customs [3] - 74:21, 74:27, 79:5
cut [2] - 39:2, 57:7Céilí [12] - 14:5, 14:30,
15:2, 15:13, 15:25, 16:2, 16:24, 16:29, 17:1, 20:28, 41:16, 48:3
DD93" [1] - 59:13Daily [1] - 32:10damage [2] - 23:8, 32:13dance [1] - 22:8danger [7] - 75:8, 75:16,
77:10, 78:10, 81:30, 82:3
dangerous [2] - 15:7, 69:25
date [9] - 1:11, 1:21, 1:23, 16:18, 36:20, 36:23, 37:3, 88:17, 88:21
day-to-day [1] - 8:6day.. [1] - 80:27days [1] - 39:13dead [2] - 38:21, 72:21deal [11] - 1:5, 42:9, 53:3,
54:20, 62:4, 62:5, 65:5, 70:13, 82:9, 82:17, 88:9
dealing [4] - 23:24, 42:16, 42:19, 62:3
dealt [4] - 2:25, 64:13, 70:19, 77:13
death [5] - 38:5, 51:5, 62:11, 73:8, 73:11
debriefed [1] - 35:5debriefing [1] - 35:3deception [1] - 54:19decide [1] - 56:2decided [1] - 71:25decides [1] - 56:1decision [5] - 2:18, 2:19,
7:15, 7:17, 51:30deductions [1] - 45:27deemed [1] - 23:8deeply [1] - 54:19defence [2] - 7:1, 55:6defenders [1] - 30:30definitively [1] - 43:26deflect [1] - 34:3degenerated [1] - 33:25delighted [1] - 41:11deliver [1] - 2:19demanded [1] - 66:1den [1] - 31:17denigrated [1] - 42:13deny [1] - 82:12departing [1] - 15:16derogatory [1] - 55:2describe [2] - 44:3, 44:5described [1] - 45:15description [4] - 25:6,
45:22, 45:25, 49:24designed [1] - 32:13despite [1] - 81:21destination [1] - 65:27destroyed [4] - 43:4,
43:22, 43:26, 43:27details [2] - 42:20, 50:26detective [3] - 10:11,
10:23, 46:30Detective [13] - 5:1, 5:13,
5:14, 5:15, 8:1, 8:12, 9:9, 9:13, 16:10, 64:21, 65:5, 65:14
detectives [2] - 46:28, 47:8
detonation [2] - 37:24, 39:4
detriment [1] - 23:23devote [1] - 2:7devotion [1] - 10:28
die [1] - 83:25different [8] - 15:22,
17:11, 21:17, 39:10, 40:11, 59:12, 65:11, 70:20
differentiates [1] - 25:5differently [1] - 86:9difficult [1] - 72:6Dillon [16] - 6:6, 45:13,
60:13, 60:16, 61:7, 66:6, 69:12, 70:5, 70:23, 75:7, 76:4, 76:19, 81:20, 81:27, 83:8, 88:25
DILLON [11] - 1:3, 1:28, 2:7, 2:16, 3:8, 60:25, 67:6, 81:8, 81:14, 86:29, 88:7
diplomatic [2] - 9:15, 34:9
direct [4] - 35:29, 36:4, 36:6, 36:9
directing [1] - 32:7direction [1] - 32:7directions [1] - 66:9directly [2] - 49:13, 85:10discharge [2] - 34:18,
34:19disciplinary [2] - 71:27,
71:30disclosed [3] - 27:16,
87:10, 88:27disclosure [2] - 87:16,
88:25discourage [1] - 8:20discussed [1] - 49:18discussing [1] - 50:27discussion [6] - 8:7,
40:14, 49:27, 51:30, 52:1, 52:4
discussions [1] - 8:7disembarked [1] - 31:22dispute [2] - 67:11, 67:13disseminated [1] - 62:25distinctive [1] - 45:2divert [3] - 30:25, 31:7,
32:14document [8] - 40:12,
57:10, 57:12, 57:14, 70:19, 70:22, 80:19, 81:9
documentation [1] - 53:26
documents [12] - 53:17, 53:27, 53:30, 54:3, 57:22, 57:26, 57:27, 86:26, 87:8, 87:10, 87:14, 88:26
dodgy [1] - 12:3domain [2] - 34:11, 68:4don't.. [1] - 80:28Donaldson [7] - 25:18,
25:22, 25:25, 25:30, 31:29, 31:30, 82:16
Donaldson's [1] - 32:1done [3] - 8:8, 80:4, 80:25door [5] - 32:23, 33:4,
33:6
doubt [6] - 22:11, 30:3, 39:28, 69:7, 80:16, 81:5
doubting [1] - 10:25down [26] - 7:1, 7:3, 9:19,
11:7, 21:2, 22:14, 29:29, 31:23, 32:12, 32:22, 33:5, 33:10, 33:21, 33:26, 34:12, 34:15, 38:2, 38:4, 38:7, 38:9, 38:13, 38:14, 38:17, 39:2, 57:20, 58:25
downstairs [1] - 65:24Dr [1] - 87:30draft [1] - 52:4drawing [1] - 41:4drawn [1] - 1:12driving [2] - 17:8, 33:2Drogheda [2] - 6:21, 7:5drop [1] - 28:24dropped [1] - 13:4drops [1] - 13:9drove [1] - 9:19Drumree [1] - 55:9dry [1] - 33:8Dublin [2] - 9:19, 31:21due [7] - 9:15, 9:29,
11:22, 22:15, 62:26, 67:17, 74:19
dumped [1] - 78:19Dundalk [31] - 4:17, 5:27,
7:5, 8:23, 9:22, 10:1, 10:3, 13:21, 13:25, 14:1, 14:22, 15:5, 20:16, 20:22, 37:16, 39:25, 46:7, 47:3, 51:19, 54:22, 55:8, 55:9, 55:10, 60:18, 60:29, 64:9, 65:14, 65:22, 65:30, 66:4, 84:16
Dundalk-Castleblayney
[1] - 15:5DURACK [1] - 88:24Durack [1] - 88:29during [8] - 2:19, 46:3,
48:27, 54:21, 60:13, 80:7, 84:26, 84:30
duties [2] - 4:29, 52:18duty [2] - 10:28, 52:15
Ee-mail [1] - 13:8earliest [1] - 87:22earning [1] - 59:29ease [2] - 2:20, 2:24easier [1] - 73:1effect [4] - 6:8, 21:25,
34:1, 51:4effectively [4] - 22:23,
56:16, 83:24, 84:11effort [2] - 27:3, 27:14egg [1] - 60:6ego [1] - 28:4eight [4] - 10:26, 32:26,
33:1, 86:3eighth [2] - 83:6, 83:7
eighties [1] - 30:28either [3] - 36:7, 47:21,
69:10elaborate [2] - 31:19,
80:11element [1] - 15:19elements [3] - 15:21,
15:22, 31:12elevated [2] - 37:25,
66:15eleventh [2] - 22:23,
22:27embarrassment [1] - 27:9employment [1] - 10:1encounter [1] - 16:23encountered [1] - 46:15encourage [1] - 8:19end [5] - 1:10, 57:30,
86:29, 86:30, 88:18endeavouring [1] - 72:14endeavours [1] - 6:10ended [1] - 30:30endorse [1] - 2:29engage [1] - 6:11engaged [2] - 4:29, 33:14England [1] - 27:2English [1] - 6:26ensure [1] - 62:25enters [1] - 25:20entitled [3] - 2:21, 7:16,
59:13episode [1] - 84:25equally [1] - 33:22equation [1] - 25:21escort [2] - 31:27, 65:28escorted [1] - 66:1essence [1] - 33:27established [1] - 4:7establishment [6] - 4:6,
4:8, 11:13, 15:2, 15:20, 15:26
EU [1] - 79:3evening [1] - 72:13everyday [1] - 78:7evidence [87] - 1:17,
1:19, 2:8, 2:17, 4:12, 4:13, 4:15, 5:5, 5:8, 5:16, 8:3, 8:11, 8:28, 9:3, 9:9, 9:29, 10:13, 11:12, 11:27, 11:30, 12:8, 12:9, 12:18, 13:14, 14:3, 14:10, 14:26, 14:27, 15:24, 16:20, 18:14, 18:30, 19:11, 21:16, 23:25, 25:8, 25:16, 25:28, 26:1, 26:3, 28:16, 30:13, 35:28, 37:19, 43:8, 43:20, 43:21, 47:14, 48:2, 48:22, 51:2, 53:11, 56:11, 56:24, 57:5, 58:13, 59:9, 60:2, 60:7, 60:9, 60:14, 60:21, 61:9, 64:2, 64:4, 67:6, 67:27, 68:7, 69:7, 70:17, 70:26, 71:19, 71:25, 73:4, 73:26, 73:27,
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73:28, 74:12, 75:6, 76:11, 78:25, 79:11, 79:29, 81:10, 83:15, 84:20, 88:10
evidencing [1] - 80:19evolved [1] - 31:3exact [2] - 37:3, 44:16exactly [5] - 23:4, 30:19,
40:15, 65:9, 88:7examination [9] - 1:4,
39:13, 53:3, 53:4, 60:13, 70:4, 81:26, 86:25, 87:26
examination-in-chief [1] - 60:13
EXAMINED [1] - 4:1example [4] - 26:18,
26:20, 53:22, 53:29examples [1] - 75:11except [1] - 52:20excerpt [4] - 28:15, 48:26,
62:9, 75:5excess [2] - 16:4, 51:20exchange [1] - 46:13excluded [2] - 8:29, 10:4exclusion [1] - 10:28excuse [1] - 27:19executed [1] - 78:19exercised [1] - 27:11exists [1] - 16:16expect [1] - 88:8expendable [1] - 67:25expenses [1] - 24:1expensive [1] - 24:18experience [5] - 22:30,
23:20, 28:21, 29:29, 79:15
explain [2] - 51:18, 72:16explained [7] - 34:28,
49:26, 53:24, 67:24, 78:30, 80:2, 84:1
explaining [1] - 26:9explains [1] - 38:8explanation [3] - 27:19,
27:23, 60:1explosives [2] - 6:28,
6:30extensive [1] - 77:16extensively [1] - 75:7extent [3] - 10:6, 38:28,
48:24extra [3] - 10:7, 10:8,
10:18extraordinarily [1] -
10:16extraordinary [1] - 8:25extremely [1] - 65:29eyes [2] - 15:21, 63:22
Ffacilitate [1] - 26:29facilities [1] - 3:4fact [16] - 14:10, 25:17,
25:20, 34:4, 34:29, 36:13, 42:27, 43:9, 45:14, 55:12, 55:30, 69:28, 81:21, 86:17,
87:10, 87:16factors [1] - 28:5facts [4] - 7:8, 22:4, 22:6,
83:29fair [3] - 24:20, 45:29,
86:15fairly [2] - 62:16, 69:5fairness [6] - 4:27, 23:16,
67:6, 79:29, 88:13fait [1] - 23:22falling [3] - 32:13, 38:18false [5] - 26:22, 29:3,
34:18, 34:19, 60:2famous [2] - 23:7, 62:5fantasist [1] - 29:15fantasy [3] - 27:27, 30:7,
30:15far [6] - 15:25, 57:15,
63:12, 63:25, 74:19, 85:9
farm [2] - 31:16farmhouse [1] - 31:14fascinating [1] - 39:24fashion [1] - 65:9Fasie [1] - 87:30fat [3] - 44:24, 44:26,
44:28featured [1] - 16:11fed [1] - 71:21feed [3] - 69:13, 70:29,
71:6feeds [1] - 69:28fella [1] - 85:5felt [3] - 77:10, 78:10,
84:26few [4] - 8:7, 17:18,
34:29, 55:15fiction [1] - 27:17figured [1] - 16:8file [3] - 52:5, 52:6, 69:30filled [1] - 22:5financial [2] - 28:2, 41:3finest [1] - 11:28fingerprint [1] - 43:21fingerprints [6] - 43:4,
43:9, 43:18, 43:19, 43:27, 43:28
finish [3] - 52:13, 83:13, 84:13
finished [4] - 48:19, 61:17, 62:2, 86:24
Fintan [15] - 5:14, 14:4, 14:29, 15:2, 15:12, 15:25, 16:2, 16:23, 16:29, 17:1, 17:9, 20:28, 41:16, 48:3, 87:4
firing [1] - 38:6first [22] - 8:14, 9:21,
12:17, 17:7, 22:12, 23:18, 35:1, 36:15, 36:16, 36:20, 37:28, 39:22, 41:23, 48:26, 51:12, 51:26, 60:15, 62:5, 63:21, 75:12, 84:22, 87:13
first-hand [1] - 63:21fit [1] - 86:20five [10] - 7:3, 23:5, 33:1,
42:1, 44:9, 44:10, 45:18, 45:20, 57:8
five-foot-five [1] - 45:18fix [1] - 33:9flat [2] - 24:18, 52:16flat-out [1] - 52:16flesh [1] - 22:3flow [1] - 43:14folder [1] - 13:1follow [3] - 9:24, 34:10,
65:27follow-up [1] - 9:24followed [1] - 17:19following [11] - 2:20,
28:17, 29:11, 46:13, 49:9, 53:14, 57:19, 62:19, 63:17, 68:10, 73:8
follows [4] - 13:25, 23:27, 73:7, 81:28
FOLLOWS [2] - 1:1, 4:2fooled [1] - 22:7foot [5] - 13:8, 45:18,
45:20, 46:2football [1] - 58:27football.. [1] - 50:4force [2] - 9:17, 9:27forces [8] - 7:1, 30:26,
31:3, 31:9, 31:11, 32:14, 55:6, 56:6
foremost [1] - 51:26forget [1] - 38:14form [1] - 34:26format [1] - 59:12former [3] - 68:3, 68:23,
69:8forms [2] - 54:2, 54:3fortunately [1] - 57:3forward [2] - 14:25, 70:3fought [1] - 54:28four [5] - 7:2, 32:16,
33:11, 62:4, 66:24Fox [1] - 5:15Francis [1] - 62:11Fraser [8] - 12:27, 13:7,
25:9, 25:17, 31:19, 31:20, 31:28
Freddie [5] - 51:3, 51:12, 51:16, 52:26, 53:5
free [1] - 33:14frequented [2] - 15:8,
15:23frequenting [1] - 15:11Friday [2] - 1:9Friend [1] - 43:24friend [2] - 19:21, 42:4friend' [5] - 19:22, 19:24,
41:8, 43:17, 48:24Friend's [1] - 43:14front [2] - 16:21, 62:9fronts [1] - 39:6FRU [1] - 59:22full [6] - 2:11, 31:18,
33:15, 41:1, 52:3, 55:8full-time [3] - 31:18,
33:15, 52:3fully [4] - 7:23, 52:16,
55:28, 60:3Fulton [12] - 12:26, 22:17,
26:15, 26:28, 27:6, 28:19, 29:20, 31:29, 36:14, 60:15, 62:3, 82:17
Fulton's [1] - 22:20function [1] - 8:17FURTHER [1] - 89:1future [1] - 16:18
GGAA [1] - 32:29gain [1] - 22:13game [2] - 10:10, 83:18gang [1] - 48:9garda [3] - 46:16, 63:11,
66:13Garda [35] - 5:3, 5:4,
5:11, 5:13, 5:14, 5:15, 7:19, 8:1, 8:12, 8:30, 9:9, 9:13, 9:17, 10:1, 13:19, 15:10, 16:15, 16:18, 20:21, 30:22, 38:20, 43:8, 46:7, 55:4, 56:2, 56:7, 60:5, 60:18, 60:20, 64:9, 65:14, 79:16, 81:19
Gardaí [6] - 7:28, 14:18, 31:26, 53:1, 66:2, 77:23
gate [2] - 6:8, 6:10gate-crashing [2] - 6:8,
6:10gathering [1] - 16:8general [7] - 45:21,
49:23, 49:27, 56:6, 77:5, 77:6, 84:6
generally [1] - 50:15generate [1] - 27:28generated [4] - 52:25,
63:5, 71:20, 72:9Gerard [1] - 5:14Gethins [2] - 9:9, 9:13gift [2] - 83:20, 86:8girl [1] - 6:22given [27] - 5:5, 5:16,
8:11, 11:26, 11:30, 13:24, 26:3, 26:25, 28:13, 29:7, 40:5, 43:8, 50:30, 53:1, 58:14, 59:9, 60:7, 61:29, 62:23, 62:26, 67:7, 68:7, 68:26, 69:7, 71:19, 74:12, 81:10
Glenanne [1] - 31:14Glens [2] - 32:25, 32:30God [1] - 15:16gorse [1] - 37:26gossip [2] - 62:23, 65:2Government [3] - 6:29,
31:21, 34:7graded [6] - 66:17, 66:28,
67:1, 67:3, 68:15, 69:4grading [4] - 64:29,
67:14, 67:17, 68:26grain [1] - 79:2grass [1] - 39:12
great [3] - 18:26, 38:29, 44:13
Great [4] - 26:27, 26:30, 27:10, 27:13
greatest [2] - 41:20, 54:8greed [1] - 28:2greet [1] - 80:12group [2] - 33:12, 46:9Group [1] - 33:13guard [8] - 34:25, 35:21,
35:22, 39:25, 41:16, 48:28, 57:12, 60:17
guards [11] - 34:3, 42:11, 44:20, 45:19, 45:20, 48:6, 52:24, 53:3, 60:6, 63:7, 63:12
guilty [1] - 54:19gunfire [1] - 38:5guy [2] - 32:27, 33:1guys [1] - 35:1
Hhair [2] - 44:30, 45:1Hall [1] - 33:23hand [8] - 6:16, 6:18,
8:14, 10:15, 35:1, 61:20, 63:21, 69:24
Hand [1] - 31:18hand-picked [1] - 6:18hand-picks [1] - 6:16handed [1] - 12:27handled [4] - 50:21, 53:5,
56:29, 83:16handler [1] - 56:17handlers [11] - 30:6, 32:2,
39:17, 39:22, 39:28, 39:30, 41:6, 41:10, 41:18, 69:27
hang [2] - 37:8, 73:1hanging [1] - 37:15happy [1] - 41:6Harnden [2] - 32:8Harry [2] - 82:5, 82:11haste [1] - 41:20hatchet [1] - 73:14head [2] - 6:20, 38:17Headquarters [3] - 35:8,
35:9, 69:29heads [1] - 6:20hear [3] - 2:8, 2:17, 37:2heard [14] - 4:20, 11:4,
11:16, 11:17, 12:2, 26:5, 36:30, 45:24, 48:23, 48:27, 49:1, 63:28, 64:8, 87:13
hearing [1] - 35:26hearings [1] - 71:27hearsay [3] - 64:1, 64:2,
64:3heart [1] - 38:29heavy [1] - 24:18height [1] - 44:16heights [1] - 44:13held [2] - 15:20, 47:3help [2] - 24:29, 44:20helped [6] - 19:24, 36:26,
41:8, 42:5, 48:24, 68:23
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helpful [2] - 61:3, 61:7helping [5] - 35:14,
51:15, 63:23, 64:10, 64:22
hides [1] - 26:29hierarchy [2] - 7:19,
66:13highest [1] - 29:16highly [2] - 59:2, 80:10himself [3] - 1:9, 27:28,
47:6Historical [2] - 62:10,
62:19HMG [1] - 13:9holes [1] - 22:5holiday [1] - 1:13holidays [1] - 52:19homes [1] - 6:26honest [1] - 64:24honesty [1] - 26:4hope [4] - 1:29, 2:2,
15:15, 67:16hopefully [3] - 1:28,
88:11, 88:17horrendous [1] - 33:22horrible [1] - 33:24hour [4] - 2:14, 22:23,
22:27, 86:24hours [1] - 52:15house [3] - 15:26, 24:14,
32:23House [13] - 14:5, 14:30,
15:3, 15:13, 15:25, 16:2, 16:24, 17:2, 20:28, 25:22, 41:16, 48:3, 87:5
House' [1] - 16:29housekeeping [1] - 1:6Hudson [4] - 37:20, 38:2,
38:7, 38:9Hudson's [1] - 38:5huge [2] - 6:28, 79:6hundreds [1] - 31:26Hurst [21] - 4:15, 12:15,
30:14, 48:25, 48:27, 49:8, 50:18, 53:8, 53:11, 53:13, 54:7, 57:19, 58:3, 58:7, 58:14, 58:17, 59:8, 59:9, 59:15, 60:2, 60:4
Hurst's [3] - 56:10, 56:24, 59:21
hurtful [1] - 54:17
Iidea [1] - 53:21identified [3] - 34:25,
35:21, 67:21identify [2] - 24:16, 24:17identifying [1] - 26:17identity [1] - 62:28imaginary [1] - 22:6immediately [2] - 77:17,
78:15impending [1] - 86:18imperative [1] - 41:5important [2] - 22:1,
85:30impose [2] - 10:6, 10:13impression [1] - 7:9inasmuch [1] - 59:3incident [1] - 19:17incidents [1] - 26:10including [3] - 54:15,
54:17, 55:8incorrect [3] - 20:30,
21:4, 21:6indeed [7] - 28:14, 54:4,
55:6, 60:11, 69:29, 73:26, 86:30
indicated [3] - 35:14, 61:10, 64:21
indicating [1] - 76:12indication [1] - 21:28indifferent [2] - 26:6,
51:29indirect [1] - 36:10individual [8] - 8:18,
8:20, 13:18, 18:23, 51:22, 52:5, 52:6
individuals [3] - 26:18, 52:30, 58:21
inevitable [1] - 21:30inevitably [1] - 77:21infamous [1] - 23:7inform [6] - 10:2, 39:23,
80:24, 81:4, 81:22, 85:27
informant [2] - 66:25, 75:25
informants [3] - 66:23, 66:26, 85:8
information [61] - 11:18, 13:12, 13:21, 13:24, 14:17, 17:27, 22:28, 23:5, 25:29, 26:16, 26:17, 26:21, 29:4, 36:11, 39:24, 48:7, 48:16, 49:14, 49:21, 49:29, 50:23, 50:30, 51:3, 51:7, 53:18, 54:6, 56:17, 56:30, 57:23, 58:4, 59:4, 59:23, 63:3, 63:20, 64:7, 66:18, 66:28, 67:1, 67:11, 67:15, 67:21, 67:30, 68:4, 69:27, 72:28, 74:14, 76:24, 77:2, 77:3, 77:5, 77:6, 77:14, 80:21, 82:22, 83:16, 84:2, 85:11, 85:22, 86:4, 86:10, 86:18
informed [1] - 88:20iniquity [1] - 31:17initial [1] - 31:2inquire [1] - 56:7inquired [1] - 16:15Inquiries [2] - 62:10,
62:19inquiries [2] - 40:7, 61:13inquiring [2] - 3:2, 52:25inquiry [6] - 6:4, 6:7,
22:18, 55:22, 55:23, 86:11
Inquiry [4] - 13:4, 22:26,
22:27, 35:17insinuation [2] - 54:13,
54:21instance [1] - 36:24instigated [2] - 71:27,
72:1instructed [1] - 10:20instructions [1] - 1:22insult [1] - 54:9integral [2] - 7:5, 7:6integrity [2] - 10:25, 54:9intelligence [41] - 2:23,
8:25, 10:12, 14:17, 16:8, 26:25, 27:9, 27:21, 28:22, 28:24, 28:28, 28:29, 29:17, 29:22, 29:27, 35:13, 40:1, 40:6, 40:14, 40:25, 53:17, 53:27, 53:30, 57:22, 59:24, 62:14, 62:16, 62:21, 62:22, 62:24, 62:27, 62:28, 63:2, 63:20, 64:20, 64:28, 65:3, 66:18, 82:26, 88:11
intelligence-gathering
[1] - 16:8intent [1] - 54:27interest [2] - 30:20, 34:2interested [3] - 27:27,
30:23, 61:9interesting [2] - 26:24,
67:20interjection [2] - 61:3,
61:7intermingling [1] - 31:11interrogate [4] - 46:19,
46:22, 46:26, 47:6interrogated [11] - 45:6,
46:6, 46:12, 46:24, 47:2, 47:5, 47:15, 47:19, 47:24
interrogating [1] - 47:29interrogation [5] - 46:20,
46:23, 46:25, 46:28, 47:11
interrupt [4] - 40:9, 40:20, 43:13, 43:14
intervene [2] - 31:26, 81:8
intervention [1] - 31:8interview [2] - 46:2, 46:3interviewed [1] - 77:22introduce [1] - 17:28introduced [8] - 13:19,
18:3, 18:4, 18:15, 18:17, 18:18, 18:21, 18:24
investigate [7] - 7:21, 9:30, 38:21, 55:25, 55:26, 56:2, 56:5
investigated [1] - 6:19investigating [1] - 37:20investigation [12] - 5:24,
5:27, 5:30, 6:14, 7:11, 7:24, 7:27, 8:14, 9:11, 22:23, 39:3, 73:12
investigative [4] - 53:25,
77:18, 77:19investigators [2] - 6:8,
62:26Investigatory [1] - 28:26involve [1] - 6:7involved [19] - 6:13, 7:11,
9:10, 24:3, 32:28, 35:30, 36:7, 37:7, 37:19, 38:1, 38:2, 42:18, 42:30, 49:28, 51:24, 51:28, 78:22, 78:25, 84:7
involvement [6] - 36:9, 37:28, 50:1, 57:1, 82:5, 82:11
iota [1] - 10:10IRA [60] - 6:27, 11:6,
11:29, 13:17, 13:22, 13:28, 13:30, 14:21, 15:9, 15:16, 16:3, 16:13, 20:19, 20:21, 26:26, 27:12, 29:23, 30:22, 30:30, 31:4, 33:20, 33:21, 34:21, 36:22, 36:27, 36:29, 37:7, 37:29, 39:26, 41:26, 43:5, 46:9, 49:11, 49:15, 49:21, 50:23, 51:10, 51:26, 53:19, 54:6, 54:12, 54:21, 54:28, 55:3, 56:1, 56:3, 56:8, 64:22, 74:17, 74:28, 75:2, 75:26, 77:12, 78:27, 79:9, 79:12, 79:17, 84:8, 85:2, 85:23
IRA' [2] - 57:24, 64:10Ireland [21] - 1:13, 5:22,
6:26, 7:25, 10:10, 15:8, 30:27, 30:28, 31:10, 32:3, 33:25, 34:18, 34:30, 38:22, 38:25, 74:17, 77:15, 78:20, 79:20, 79:21, 79:22
Irish [1] - 32:17irony [3] - 55:12, 55:29,
55:30irrelevant [1] - 86:16issue [5] - 54:26, 55:27,
56:2, 73:5, 88:9issued [1] - 31:30issues [1] - 10:1issuing [1] - 54:27it" [1] - 32:22itself [2] - 38:8, 70:19
JJackal' [1] - 32:27Jackson [3] - 32:27,
32:28, 33:3jail [1] - 31:13Jeffrey [2] - 25:22, 82:16Jim [1] - 60:17job [2] - 64:13, 66:12Joe [5] - 32:24, 32:29,
33:5, 33:6, 33:9John [11] - 5:14, 68:1,
68:4, 74:15, 75:3, 75:8, 77:27, 78:4, 78:6, 79:13
Johnson [1] - 5:12joined [1] - 35:5Judge [27] - 12:28, 13:9,
13:25, 14:21, 18:19, 18:20, 20:11, 20:14, 20:16, 20:26, 20:30, 21:9, 21:11, 21:17, 21:20, 21:21, 21:25, 21:29, 22:2, 22:7, 22:10, 22:12, 22:13, 22:16, 22:22, 25:11, 31:24
July [2] - 14:12, 72:7jumping [1] - 34:12June [4] - 15:3, 18:8,
47:3, 65:10jurisdiction [1] - 66:1jurisdictions [1] - 39:11
KKeeley [58] - 4:15, 12:15,
12:27, 13:7, 13:24, 14:7, 14:26, 14:27, 16:22, 18:14, 19:3, 19:6, 19:30, 20:24, 21:24, 21:28, 22:9, 23:13, 23:16, 23:25, 25:2, 25:7, 25:20, 25:30, 26:2, 26:4, 28:9, 28:13, 29:20, 30:9, 30:13, 34:1, 34:15, 35:2, 35:28, 36:20, 36:28, 39:15, 40:28, 41:21, 43:15, 43:26, 44:2, 45:14, 45:22, 45:30, 46:3, 46:5, 46:29, 47:27, 48:2, 48:9, 48:11, 48:20, 49:2, 60:15, 62:3
Keeley's [8] - 12:18, 13:14, 18:30, 30:14, 40:29, 43:18, 43:30, 49:3
keep [2] - 41:6, 52:17Kenny [1] - 5:14kept [2] - 46:8, 66:25Kevin [6] - 12:26, 22:17,
26:15, 28:19, 60:15, 82:17
kidnapped [6] - 48:15, 72:13, 72:26, 77:22, 84:3, 84:4
kidnapping [1] - 48:18Kildare [1] - 6:29killed [2] - 38:24, 80:12killing [4] - 19:17, 33:15,
38:20, 49:16kind [1] - 79:1Knock [1] - 35:9know.. [2] - 72:22, 80:13knowledge [13] - 7:7,
35:20, 35:29, 36:5, 36:6, 36:9, 58:5, 59:5, 63:21, 63:24, 71:13, 73:29, 76:6
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known [4] - 9:16, 24:19, 42:6, 54:29
knows [1] - 83:19
Llads [1] - 52:4landmark [1] - 24:19language [1] - 37:8larceny [1] - 6:28large [3] - 10:6, 42:10,
42:15last [15] - 1:30, 2:2, 4:5,
15:16, 18:28, 23:26, 25:30, 40:5, 40:11, 57:29, 59:11, 71:3, 81:25, 81:27, 84:13
late [2] - 13:17, 14:8latitude [1] - 40:21launched [1] - 31:2Lawlor [1] - 87:6lawyers [2] - 86:14, 86:19lead [2] - 40:28, 59:8leader [3] - 8:14, 31:20,
32:27leaders [1] - 80:5leading [2] - 65:23, 67:28leak [1] - 54:6leaked [4] - 49:20, 51:3,
51:7, 51:9leaking [3] - 53:18, 56:30,
57:23learned [2] - 73:8, 87:6least [4] - 32:16, 32:28,
80:27, 86:3leave [7] - 14:14, 14:18,
32:10, 65:26, 66:23, 86:20, 86:27
leaving [1] - 6:12led [5] - 4:8, 16:16, 22:7,
32:9, 61:13left [2] - 34:8, 63:7lengthy [1] - 75:5letter [6] - 18:19, 20:14,
22:10, 22:22, 68:27letters [1] - 69:2level [2] - 33:26, 73:29liar [2] - 18:26, 29:15liars [1] - 49:7life [13] - 35:11, 54:29,
72:14, 73:3, 75:8, 76:26, 76:28, 77:10, 83:21, 83:26, 86:8, 86:19
lift [1] - 16:28likely [2] - 29:3, 74:16limited [1] - 11:20line [9] - 22:14, 32:12,
57:20, 59:14, 69:1, 69:2, 70:4, 70:5, 73:30
lines [1] - 57:8linking [2] - 49:10, 49:14lips [1] - 35:2Lisburn [1] - 35:8list [2] - 35:7, 85:6listing [1] - 51:25live [2] - 24:1, 30:7lived [4] - 17:11, 24:17,
33:5, 79:24loads [1] - 31:22lobbed [1] - 22:28local [1] - 62:23locals [2] - 31:24, 31:25lodged [2] - 35:4, 35:5logistics [1] - 26:30London [1] - 24:19look [17] - 4:12, 9:29,
11:22, 12:7, 12:17, 13:1, 13:14, 14:26, 16:20, 46:10, 48:25, 50:18, 54:2, 62:8, 68:8, 69:16, 70:28
looked [3] - 4:5, 40:4looking [4] - 4:10, 17:25,
35:19, 81:2Lord [1] - 53:28lost [1] - 86:19Louth [1] - 72:19Loyalist [1] - 34:5lukewarm [1] - 66:22Lynskey [1] - 6:22
Mmade-up [1] - 30:15magazine [1] - 24:11Maguire [1] - 60:5mail [1] - 13:8main [1] - 30:25Major [1] - 59:20malicious [1] - 54:27maliciously [1] - 62:23malingering [1] - 54:18man [19] - 8:18, 29:15,
30:11, 33:2, 38:21, 42:27, 44:16, 53:10, 62:11, 65:20, 74:21, 75:25, 80:6, 83:9, 83:25, 85:1, 85:23, 86:10
man's [4] - 72:14, 73:3, 83:21, 86:8
mandated [1] - 56:7march [1] - 31:23March [7] - 4:11, 4:16,
5:7, 25:21, 41:7, 41:24, 66:7
Martin [1] - 9:27mass [1] - 32:4material [2] - 40:13, 62:14matter [15] - 4:30, 10:10,
25:30, 35:13, 39:13, 40:10, 40:19, 50:13, 81:9, 85:9, 86:11, 86:20, 87:3, 88:10, 88:24
matters [4] - 1:10, 35:6, 54:16, 88:12
Matthew [1] - 24:10maximum [1] - 8:17May/June [1] - 16:28McAnulty [36] - 68:1,
68:5, 72:8, 72:13, 72:25, 73:18, 74:15, 74:22, 74:27, 75:3, 75:8, 75:24, 76:2, 76:5,
76:6, 77:4, 77:15, 77:27, 78:4, 78:6, 78:22, 79:13, 79:17, 79:19, 79:20, 80:17, 80:20, 82:3, 82:20, 82:22, 83:1, 83:9, 83:14, 83:17, 84:3, 86:4
mcAnulty [1] - 71:28McAnulty's [2] - 73:5,
73:29McConville [5] - 67:7,
70:26, 70:28, 71:1, 71:19
McConville's [2] - 1:19, 88:10
McDonald [2] - 46:4, 46:6McDowell [1] - 34:8McGrath [3] - 8:1, 8:12,
8:28McGreanary [1] - 62:11McKevitt [1] - 61:20mean [6] - 29:1, 31:4,
63:27, 69:3, 78:6, 87:12meant [3] - 43:20, 51:19,
67:8Meath [2] - 42:23, 55:10mechanism [1] - 35:7medium [3] - 64:29,
68:16, 68:18meet [5] - 25:17, 25:30,
65:8, 72:29, 80:11meeting [15] - 4:18,
14:28, 14:29, 15:4, 15:17, 16:12, 16:14, 48:2, 60:27, 60:29, 65:12, 80:25, 80:26, 80:27
meets [1] - 25:22member [7] - 11:1, 13:28,
15:10, 20:20, 32:9, 38:12, 85:2
members [26] - 5:3, 6:30, 10:26, 11:29, 15:9, 15:18, 16:12, 31:2, 31:10, 31:17, 33:13, 33:15, 33:18, 33:19, 34:15, 39:13, 51:10, 51:26, 52:18, 55:6, 55:8, 66:2, 66:24, 79:8, 79:9, 79:15
memory [2] - 18:26, 51:15
men [14] - 8:16, 10:7, 10:8, 10:18, 11:25, 11:28, 31:13, 46:9, 65:27, 65:28, 80:7, 80:11, 80:15, 80:27
mention [7] - 20:2, 20:5, 39:30, 63:9, 63:11, 87:3
mentioned [6] - 26:14, 28:19, 39:27, 58:21, 60:4, 88:14
merry [1] - 22:8Messrs [2] - 62:3, 87:6met [2] - 28:9, 51:13MI5 [4] - 23:22, 23:30,
24:5, 24:22Michael [1] - 5:12
Mick [1] - 5:13Mickey [3] - 19:5, 19:15,
20:20middle [3] - 13:13, 19:2,
59:14might [8] - 1:5, 2:7, 2:16,
50:10, 76:26, 76:28, 76:30, 82:3
military [4] - 10:14, 39:17, 40:1, 41:13
Mills [2] - 12:20, 19:29mind [2] - 22:3, 69:20minute [1] - 32:18minutes [1] - 17:18minutes' [1] - 55:15misbehaviour [1] - 34:22mischievous [1] - 55:1mislead [5] - 21:9, 21:12,
21:20, 21:21, 21:26misleading [2] - 26:16,
26:21misled [3] - 21:10, 21:25,
21:29mispresentation(sic [1] -
83:29missing [1] - 72:3misuse [1] - 74:14mixture [1] - 28:1MOD [2] - 54:2, 54:3modus [1] - 23:3mole' [1] - 39:26moment [3] - 19:13, 70:8,
82:1Monaghan [4] - 84:18,
84:19, 84:30money [5] - 11:8, 27:14,
30:5, 59:29, 79:6month [2] - 13:4, 31:5months [3] - 7:2, 42:2,
85:19Mooch' [1] - 17:24morning [5] - 1:22, 32:26,
33:1, 88:8, 88:14mortality [1] - 15:15most [7] - 15:7, 21:30,
29:8, 39:6, 54:8, 79:26, 85:30
motivation [2] - 59:21, 59:25
motives [1] - 41:3mounting [1] - 29:25move [3] - 14:25, 22:2,
22:14moved [1] - 72:18moving [1] - 72:18mown [1] - 33:21MR [41] - 1:3, 1:21, 1:28,
2:7, 2:14, 2:16, 2:29, 3:6, 3:8, 4:2, 4:4, 7:15, 11:10, 12:24, 33:29, 40:9, 40:23, 43:13, 43:24, 55:19, 60:25, 61:3, 61:6, 61:26, 62:2, 67:6, 67:10, 72:25, 74:4, 74:9, 77:26, 78:22, 81:8, 81:14, 81:17, 86:23, 86:29, 87:28, 88:5, 88:7, 88:24
murder [13] - 6:20, 6:22, 6:27, 7:6, 7:23, 31:13, 32:17, 36:7, 36:10, 42:3, 49:12, 50:8, 86:18
murdered [15] - 4:11, 4:21, 6:25, 14:11, 55:3, 71:28, 72:8, 72:9, 72:26, 73:16, 75:16, 76:7, 77:4, 77:28, 83:17
murdered.. [1] - 85:20murdering [2] - 49:22,
55:13murders [22] - 4:14, 5:21,
5:25, 6:19, 7:12, 7:24, 12:10, 19:1, 32:28, 33:23, 35:30, 41:8, 42:2, 48:24, 56:8, 57:2, 58:15, 82:5, 82:11, 82:19, 83:1
must [4] - 42:5, 51:18, 73:22, 77:9
Nname [13] - 11:2, 11:7,
11:11, 20:4, 25:26, 32:29, 35:1, 35:4, 35:6, 35:7, 60:5, 65:17, 80:6
namely [1] - 70:16names [2] - 47:20, 49:6narrative [1] - 25:21narrow [1] - 38:8Narrow [8] - 36:17, 36:25,
36:29, 37:4, 37:18, 37:29, 38:7, 38:27
naturally [1] - 77:22nature [5] - 8:6, 48:22,
57:10, 64:12, 78:14near [1] - 60:12need [6] - 2:11, 16:28,
17:1, 24:16, 28:6, 60:8needs [2] - 70:12, 88:13negative [1] - 26:3neighbour [1] - 33:10nest [2] - 37:24, 38:2never [23] - 6:10, 8:4,
18:1, 23:9, 25:8, 27:22, 35:10, 38:14, 43:7, 47:30, 51:13, 57:14, 59:4, 59:7, 70:21, 72:2, 72:4, 72:5, 77:23, 80:23, 85:7, 86:11
nevertheless [2] - 23:8, 40:20
new [2] - 8:22, 10:3Newry [4] - 30:1, 80:5,
80:7, 80:16news [2] - 61:17, 61:18newspaper [1] - 46:2next [21] - 10:19, 22:15,
28:15, 29:9, 29:30, 32:5, 32:24, 36:13, 44:17, 45:8, 45:13, 48:1, 57:18, 58:9, 64:17, 68:22, 76:15, 78:18, 83:5, 88:21
night [2] - 71:28, 72:3nine [1] - 85:19
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No" [1] - 43:18nobody [1] - 54:28noise [1] - 38:5none [4] - 37:30, 48:17,
69:9, 82:29Nora [1] - 5:12normal [1] - 15:26north [1] - 72:19North [5] - 15:8, 31:9,
32:15, 33:14, 34:21Northern [16] - 1:13, 5:22,
7:25, 10:9, 30:26, 30:28, 32:3, 33:25, 34:18, 34:30, 38:24, 74:17, 77:15, 78:19, 79:20, 79:22
nothing [5] - 10:27, 29:27, 29:28, 73:2, 87:21
notice [1] - 45:2NOTICE [1] - 89:1notified [1] - 3:3notify [1] - 79:25November [1] - 46:1now-Chief [1] - 60:26nowhere [1] - 40:27nub [2] - 38:29, 39:1nuisance [2] - 28:29,
29:17nuisance' [1] - 28:30number [13] - 4:23, 5:1,
5:3, 14:10, 26:23, 28:23, 31:12, 31:25, 36:13, 58:10, 68:27, 78:11, 81:26
Number [1] - 80:6numbers [2] - 10:10,
68:30numerous [1] - 83:9
OO'Callaghan [19] - 1:7,
3:8, 17:11, 40:20, 43:16, 47:14, 52:8, 52:9, 52:10, 52:11, 52:12, 52:26, 53:9, 55:16, 58:10, 66:21, 67:18, 68:11, 87:25
O'CALLAGHAN [23] - 4:2, 4:4, 7:15, 11:10, 12:24, 33:29, 40:23, 43:24, 55:19, 61:3, 61:6, 61:26, 62:2, 67:10, 72:25, 74:4, 74:9, 77:26, 78:22, 81:17, 86:23, 87:28, 88:5
o'clock [2] - 32:26, 86:24O'Connell [1] - 31:23O'Connor [1] - 5:15O'Driscoll [1] - 5:13obligation [1] - 87:15obliged [1] - 3:6Observer [1] - 46:1obtain [2] - 53:27, 53:30obtained [2] - 35:4, 54:2obviously [8] - 28:1,
35:12, 39:9, 40:12, 40:14, 61:12, 65:20, 72:6
occasion [9] - 13:16, 19:20, 25:25, 40:11, 42:24, 65:13, 71:17, 83:6, 83:7
occasions [5] - 9:19, 26:15, 62:22, 83:10, 86:3
occurred [2] - 16:23, 85:18
occurrence [1] - 78:8odds [1] - 23:10offence [1] - 7:21offensive [1] - 54:19offer [1] - 1:17office [4] - 5:1, 8:6, 34:16,
55:9officer [12] - 6:17, 28:17,
29:10, 32:8, 63:14, 63:16, 67:20, 68:3, 68:23, 69:8, 70:7, 71:5
Officers [1] - 20:22officers [25] - 4:11, 4:21,
9:5, 12:1, 12:11, 13:30, 14:22, 19:18, 20:6, 26:2, 26:3, 26:7, 38:24, 42:3, 42:4, 49:12, 49:16, 49:22, 51:5, 64:7, 66:8, 74:27, 80:12, 80:13
often [1] - 29:28Oireachtas [2] - 9:30,
55:23OK [1] - 16:7Oliver [6] - 14:11, 17:26,
18:9, 48:4, 48:10, 48:17Omeath [11] - 41:22,
41:29, 42:1, 42:6, 42:9, 42:10, 42:24, 42:27, 43:3, 43:10, 43:15
ON [1] - 1:1once [2] - 71:20, 78:14one [62] - 1:3, 1:11, 6:10,
8:10, 8:19, 9:18, 9:20, 10:10, 10:11, 10:25, 13:4, 13:16, 16:5, 16:27, 20:28, 20:29, 23:6, 23:7, 23:18, 26:7, 26:24, 26:25, 30:12, 31:4, 31:8, 32:18, 32:19, 33:26, 34:28, 34:29, 36:23, 39:9, 39:15, 42:21, 44:17, 45:8, 46:7, 47:1, 48:17, 53:22, 53:29, 55:10, 55:11, 56:2, 56:4, 60:14, 65:12, 66:23, 69:24, 70:8, 72:18, 75:12, 77:30, 78:4, 78:6, 80:18, 82:1, 84:29, 85:26, 86:18, 86:23, 87:3
ones [1] - 10:11ongoing [1] - 24:28open [3] - 32:23, 40:14,
60:8
opened [2] - 33:6, 40:26opening [2] - 69:30,
86:26operandi [1] - 23:3operate [1] - 23:23operated [2] - 23:4, 81:2operates [1] - 7:19operating [1] - 31:14operation [1] - 31:6operations [6] - 8:8, 27:1,
27:16, 29:25, 29:26, 67:26
opinion [3] - 29:14, 29:20, 59:20
opportunity [1] - 52:22opposed [2] - 54:28,
66:28option [2] - 55:25, 69:12Orange [1] - 33:23order [5] - 22:1, 29:16,
34:3, 39:2, 72:28ordinary [2] - 4:28, 10:11organisations [1] - 28:23organised [3] - 32:2,
39:2, 43:4originally [1] - 61:14otherwise [2] - 68:20,
81:6ourselves [1] - 52:1out' [1] - 42:5outdoor [1] - 52:15outgoing [1] - 79:5outline [1] - 22:14outlining [1] - 7:8outlook [1] - 66:22outside [2] - 14:4, 60:18overall [1] - 31:5overgrown [1] - 37:26overlooking [1] - 24:19overweight [1] - 44:29Owen [29] - 9:24, 9:25,
13:19, 13:20, 13:29, 17:19, 17:21, 17:28, 18:23, 18:24, 20:1, 20:2, 20:5, 35:10, 35:14, 35:21, 35:26, 36:21, 36:26, 37:12, 41:25, 47:23, 49:10, 49:15, 49:20, 49:28, 51:2, 57:11
OWEN [1] - 4:1own [11] - 6:13, 7:9,
10:28, 31:20, 34:7, 63:22, 64:25, 64:28, 66:7, 77:18, 79:10
PPaddy [5] - 52:8, 52:9,
52:10, 52:11, 52:12page [71] - 8:28, 14:27,
16:21, 18:28, 18:29, 19:2, 19:30, 23:26, 24:25, 26:11, 26:12, 28:15, 29:9, 29:10, 35:29, 36:15, 36:16, 39:14, 39:20, 41:23, 44:3, 46:11, 48:26,
49:8, 50:17, 53:12, 53:13, 56:11, 57:7, 57:8, 57:18, 57:20, 57:29, 58:25, 59:11, 59:13, 62:13, 62:18, 64:17, 68:8, 68:9, 68:11, 68:13, 68:14, 68:24, 70:3, 73:6, 75:11, 76:15, 81:14, 81:25, 81:26, 81:27, 83:5, 83:6, 84:21, 84:22
pages [2] - 8:3, 70:3paid [6] - 23:13, 24:2,
24:22, 25:3, 30:17paper [1] - 32:10paragraph [3] - 13:16,
14:20, 62:17paragraphs [2] - 13:13,
20:27paramilitaries [2] - 34:3,
34:5Pardon [1] - 76:27pardon [2] - 75:29, 84:19park [2] - 14:28, 17:13parker [2] - 42:28, 42:29Parnell [1] - 31:22part [14] - 6:3, 6:15, 6:18,
7:5, 7:6, 14:26, 31:18, 32:5, 32:11, 32:29, 47:10, 48:9, 77:11, 78:7
part-time [1] - 31:18particular [5] - 15:20,
26:10, 52:5, 67:17particularly [2] - 26:24,
67:20particulars [1] - 45:28Partners [1] - 87:6parts [1] - 32:12pass [1] - 40:23passage [1] - 51:14passed [2] - 50:22, 81:6passing [4] - 13:21,
17:27, 60:19, 80:21past [1] - 22:26Patrol [1] - 33:12Patsy [2] - 17:10, 52:26pause [2] - 18:6, 74:24paying [1] - 24:5pejorative [1] - 87:12people [33] - 8:18, 9:12,
11:16, 12:4, 16:3, 22:7, 23:4, 23:19, 24:2, 26:7, 27:11, 30:29, 33:21, 35:10, 37:16, 38:29, 39:8, 41:28, 47:1, 47:9, 47:21, 52:9, 52:18, 52:20, 54:10, 54:23, 55:13, 66:14, 72:29, 74:28, 77:24, 86:18
per [1] - 64:14perceive [1] - 63:22perceived [1] - 77:14perfectly [1] - 7:16perhaps [5] - 16:17, 53:2,
55:29, 75:19, 80:25period [1] - 88:16periodic [1] - 79:7periods [1] - 77:12
persistent [1] - 82:10person [6] - 19:10, 39:11,
66:23, 75:2, 75:17, 78:14
personal [2] - 10:28, 73:20
persons [1] - 77:13pertaining [1] - 86:10Peter [3] - 26:3, 60:5,
60:15phone [1] - 80:25physically [1] - 52:22pick [2] - 9:24, 9:25picked [2] - 6:18, 9:28picks [2] - 6:16piece [5] - 4:13, 13:24,
35:12, 39:24, 44:14pieces [5] - 4:12, 12:7,
12:9, 23:5, 30:13piggy [1] - 74:13piggy-backing [1] - 74:13PIRA [2] - 13:29, 20:20pitch [1] - 58:27place [22] - 5:22, 7:25,
13:28, 14:8, 14:29, 15:4, 15:9, 15:16, 16:3, 16:12, 20:19, 24:1, 27:1, 32:13, 37:23, 38:21, 46:13, 50:3, 50:5, 53:25, 58:26, 72:18
planning [1] - 26:26platoon [1] - 34:16play [2] - 28:5, 86:15pleaded [1] - 9:20point [7] - 64:25, 70:26,
76:21, 81:17, 81:23, 87:18, 88:17
police [6] - 27:1, 27:3, 27:14, 27:15, 62:27, 74:26
policeman [1] - 74:20policeman's [1] - 69:20political [2] - 10:14, 10:15population [1] - 33:19port [3] - 22:12, 22:13,
22:15position [12] - 1:14, 1:16,
2:18, 2:21, 7:9, 59:22, 61:1, 67:18, 70:15, 72:22, 73:29, 87:9
position.. [1] - 41:11positive [2] - 11:27, 26:5possession [1] - 59:4possible [13] - 6:9, 32:3,
41:20, 68:20, 70:16, 70:29, 71:7, 71:9, 71:14, 71:15, 71:16, 88:15, 88:16
possibly [5] - 1:5, 1:15, 2:14, 24:21
post [2] - 55:9, 79:5pounds [1] - 31:27power [1] - 83:30Powers [1] - 28:27precaution [1] - 62:28precise [1] - 88:17precisely [1] - 78:28
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precursor [1] - 51:25predominantly [1] - 22:18prefer [1] - 1:8prejudge [1] - 10:17premeditated [1] - 10:5Prenty [6] - 15:24, 73:26,
74:10, 79:11, 79:16, 84:10
Prenty's [1] - 74:25preparatory [1] - 27:4prepare [2] - 26:29, 51:15prepared [3] - 16:4,
34:17, 34:30preparing [1] - 16:1prerogative [1] - 6:17prescription [1] - 32:21presence [2] - 6:26, 65:30present [2] - 22:1, 34:2presently [1] - 54:20preservation [1] - 79:10pressure [3] - 9:27, 10:7,
30:24presumably [2] - 20:20,
45:19pretty [2] - 11:5, 50:9prevent [1] - 39:2prevented [1] - 39:12previously [1] - 53:24primary [1] - 7:23principle [1] - 10:9private [1] - 53:25probabilities [1] - 81:3probability [2] - 64:11,
68:17probable [1] - 68:20problem [6] - 9:26, 10:3,
10:14, 10:15, 34:14, 52:14
proceeded [1] - 31:23proceedings [1] - 71:30proceeds [1] - 42:9process [4] - 11:8, 22:2,
52:6, 69:30produced [6] - 40:12,
40:13, 40:15, 72:25, 82:29, 82:30
professionally [1] - 65:5profile [1] - 51:29progress [2] - 2:23, 88:12prominent [1] - 32:29prompted [2] - 33:16,
33:19propagating [1] - 7:9proper [1] - 39:3propose [1] - 88:3protect [1] - 62:28proved [1] - 54:4provenance [1] - 11:22proves [1] - 59:10provide [5] - 28:21,
28:28, 29:3, 69:27, 82:23
provided [6] - 22:22, 29:22, 41:25, 64:7, 82:26, 87:17
provides [1] - 60:1providing [2] - 22:9,
82:22Provisional [11] - 13:22,
13:29, 14:21, 15:9, 16:3, 16:13, 20:21, 29:23, 55:3, 64:10, 64:22
Provo [1] - 15:26Provos [1] - 65:24PSNI [3] - 42:13, 62:18,
67:15psychiatrist [1] - 28:6psychologist [1] - 28:6public [5] - 1:12, 27:15,
34:10, 65:23, 68:3publicity [1] - 27:28publicly [1] - 59:23published [1] - 46:2pulled [1] - 17:15purely [1] - 79:9purposely [3] - 21:10,
21:21, 21:26purse [1] - 27:15pursue [1] - 86:20put [26] - 12:20, 16:17,
20:13, 22:4, 22:9, 27:1, 29:29, 33:30, 39:20, 41:4, 53:8, 58:13, 59:16, 60:21, 65:26, 65:28, 66:11, 67:7, 68:3, 69:12, 70:15, 70:23, 71:2, 72:28, 83:14, 86:30
putting [1] - 11:7
Qqualitatively [1] - 67:12qualities [1] - 8:19quality [3] - 28:23, 67:1,
67:3quarters [1] - 33:5questioned [8] - 26:12,
34:20, 64:19, 73:6, 75:6, 83:8, 86:2, 86:12
questioning [4] - 42:14, 54:11, 66:6, 71:23
questions [8] - 44:15, 44:22, 45:30, 53:7, 71:2, 81:15, 86:16, 86:17
quicker [2] - 61:19, 86:25quite [9] - 13:6, 27:2,
27:11, 31:10, 64:24, 67:23, 67:25, 70:6, 83:19
Rradiator [1] - 33:7raised [3] - 1:21, 54:16,
88:25ran [2] - 38:9, 38:13rang [2] - 32:20, 33:5rank [1] - 10:26rather [6] - 2:5, 9:25,
10:21, 25:29, 51:21, 71:24
re [1] - 53:3
re-examination [1] - 53:3reached [1] - 86:7reacting [1] - 38:4read [7] - 5:9, 13:13,
25:14, 49:1, 49:3, 70:4, 84:19
real [1] - 52:28realise [2] - 15:19, 30:2really [7] - 28:6, 38:30,
40:10, 45:4, 50:13, 64:24, 66:19
reason [12] - 4:7, 34:24, 35:20, 45:30, 46:4, 61:8, 62:12, 69:7, 80:4, 80:16, 81:5, 81:6
reasons [1] - 30:3receive [2] - 32:4, 67:30received [9] - 2:24, 62:22,
63:15, 64:20, 67:21, 69:25, 86:13, 86:17, 88:11
recent [1] - 2:23recently [3] - 13:6, 15:24,
88:11reception [1] - 65:23recess [1] - 55:15recollect [4] - 5:17, 16:1,
60:28, 87:14recollection [10] - 9:1,
29:21, 37:27, 38:1, 42:15, 42:30, 48:7, 58:29, 59:1, 65:22
recommend [1] - 22:18reconvene [2] - 87:22,
88:8record [3] - 5:11, 41:12,
41:19recorded [1] - 63:20recount [1] - 5:11recruited [1] - 29:21Red [1] - 31:18redactions [3] - 1:18, 2:9,
88:9reeds [1] - 39:2refer [1] - 62:12reference [1] - 84:28referred [2] - 35:15, 37:23referring [3] - 57:11,
57:12, 57:15refers [1] - 14:7refused [1] - 28:27regard [2] - 2:22, 30:15regarded [1] - 62:17regards [1] - 68:19regime [2] - 8:22, 10:3Regulation [1] - 28:26regulations [1] - 39:9relates [1] - 48:2relating [2] - 87:4, 87:5relation [23] - 1:18, 2:8,
2:23, 8:25, 9:26, 26:9, 30:25, 30:27, 35:4, 35:6, 39:9, 40:12, 40:13, 42:20, 43:15, 54:16, 71:27, 74:12, 77:20, 79:8, 81:9, 88:24, 88:25
relationship [1] - 58:20
relaxed [2] - 6:23, 66:22relayed [2] - 27:10, 49:29released [7] - 23:6, 23:9,
32:17, 48:13, 48:14, 77:16, 77:21
relevance [1] - 50:13relevant [3] - 13:12, 73:5,
73:28reliability [1] - 68:18reliable [1] - 62:21remember [29] - 4:27,
5:6, 16:5, 19:12, 19:14, 21:1, 21:14, 24:9, 29:24, 31:8, 32:15, 37:3, 38:16, 44:16, 45:6, 46:21, 47:12, 47:15, 47:18, 47:20, 47:23, 60:16, 65:21, 69:14, 69:20, 72:6, 80:29, 80:30
remind [2] - 33:24, 68:29reminds [1] - 81:20remove [1] - 87:9rendezvous [1] - 16:12repeat [1] - 86:16repeatedly [2] - 23:13,
75:7reply [1] - 20:24report [7] - 22:16, 52:9,
62:10, 62:18, 77:24, 79:19, 82:4
reported [8] - 39:16, 41:9, 41:18, 50:10, 52:29, 75:25, 81:10, 83:2
reports [2] - 13:5, 16:10Republic [2] - 38:22,
79:20requested [1] - 6:14resident [1] - 79:20resource [1] - 27:14resources [1] - 27:3respect [21] - 5:21, 11:10,
14:20, 14:27, 16:1, 16:22, 18:30, 25:29, 36:17, 37:29, 38:27, 40:6, 41:22, 48:16, 51:16, 52:26, 54:11, 54:26, 63:16, 68:10, 74:10
respects [2] - 9:15, 74:19response [3] - 43:18,
53:1, 84:21responsibility [2] - 5:24,
66:16rest [4] - 5:25, 52:4,
74:13, 86:25result [2] - 10:7, 38:6resulted [1] - 10:8resulting [1] - 51:4resume [3] - 1:10, 1:14,
1:29RESUMED [1] - 1:1retaliation [1] - 33:20retired [1] - 46:30return [2] - 8:25, 67:17reward [1] - 28:2rid [1] - 43:17ridiculous [3] - 15:17,
39:6, 54:25rightly [1] - 82:1ripped [1] - 70:9road [4] - 15:6, 15:7,
17:10, 17:12robberies [1] - 51:28Robin [1] - 32:27Robinson [3] - 1:15, 1:26,
2:12ROBINSON [4] - 1:21,
2:14, 2:29, 3:6rogue [1] - 57:12role [1] - 28:25room [12] - 38:11, 46:20,
46:23, 46:27, 46:28, 47:4, 47:7, 47:9, 47:13, 47:16, 47:17, 52:23
round [1] - 87:18routine [1] - 4:30Royal [1] - 79:27RUC [52] - 5:25, 7:24,
10:6, 10:16, 11:1, 11:11, 11:14, 11:19, 11:25, 11:29, 11:30, 19:18, 26:1, 26:2, 26:7, 28:16, 29:9, 31:12, 31:15, 31:17, 32:16, 33:1, 35:5, 35:8, 39:3, 39:13, 41:2, 42:2, 42:4, 49:12, 49:16, 63:9, 65:30, 66:17, 66:24, 67:20, 67:24, 67:26, 68:3, 68:23, 69:8, 69:13, 79:7, 80:1, 80:11, 80:19, 80:21, 80:24, 81:11, 81:22, 82:23, 82:29
rumour [1] - 62:23rumours [1] - 12:2run [2] - 7:28, 33:8running [2] - 11:6, 38:17runs [2] - 79:5, 86:13
Ssafety [5] - 10:29, 73:5,
73:13, 73:20, 73:23sat [2] - 17:24, 76:10satisfactory [1] - 27:22save [3] - 72:14, 73:3,
83:26saved [3] - 76:26, 76:28,
83:26saw [6] - 33:20, 33:21,
35:10, 53:17, 57:22SB50 [19] - 11:14, 11:20,
11:23, 23:8, 34:26, 62:5, 63:5, 63:15, 64:18, 67:14, 67:19, 68:24, 69:13, 70:9, 70:29, 71:6, 71:20, 76:6
SB50s [1] - 64:12SBG [1] - 33:12Scappaticci [17] - 49:28,
49:30, 50:22, 50:29, 51:4, 51:7, 51:8, 51:12, 51:16, 52:23, 52:26, 53:5, 56:14, 56:16,
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56:29, 58:16, 87:5scene [2] - 37:20, 43:10sceptical [1] - 59:2Scotland [1] - 27:2screen [2] - 13:2, 74:10screens [1] - 80:15scrutiny [1] - 39:1Sean [1] - 9:9second [18] - 13:16,
13:24, 14:20, 15:7, 19:6, 19:16, 26:11, 46:11, 53:12, 61:6, 62:12, 68:9, 68:11, 68:13, 70:11, 81:25, 81:27
second-last [2] - 81:25, 81:27
secondhand [2] - 63:23, 63:26
secondly [1] - 41:15secret [2] - 41:1, 46:9secretary [1] - 52:3section [2] - 8:13, 16:9sections [1] - 33:20Security [8] - 22:10,
22:28, 23:14, 25:4, 30:18, 30:20, 33:30, 85:10
security [9] - 24:18, 30:26, 31:3, 31:9, 31:11, 32:14, 34:5, 34:17, 56:5
see [40] - 8:14, 9:19, 9:26, 10:12, 11:3, 14:7, 14:8, 15:4, 18:14, 21:24, 21:26, 22:25, 23:5, 25:2, 29:3, 30:24, 31:15, 32:12, 38:9, 44:22, 45:7, 51:25, 52:1, 53:12, 54:25, 55:12, 55:29, 55:30, 56:24, 58:6, 58:22, 58:24, 71:19, 77:11, 79:1, 82:8, 83:14, 85:5, 86:20, 86:23
seeing [2] - 52:20, 65:23seeking [1] - 28:4seem [1] - 74:2select [2] - 6:18, 7:20self [1] - 79:10self-preservation [1] -
79:10send [2] - 34:17, 52:7sending [1] - 74:14senior [3] - 13:17, 13:28,
20:19sense [2] - 28:3, 86:15sent [1] - 31:13September [3] - 12:28,
13:10, 25:12Sergeant [5] - 32:25,
64:9, 64:21, 65:5, 65:14sergeant [2] - 8:5, 47:1series [1] - 26:27serious [4] - 7:7, 9:26,
30:11, 85:9servants [1] - 56:8Service [7] - 22:10, 22:28,
23:14, 25:4, 30:18, 30:21, 33:30
service [6] - 26:26, 27:5, 34:17, 41:1, 65:24, 84:30
services [1] - 34:6session [1] - 53:25set [4] - 22:3, 70:14,
77:17, 77:19setting [1] - 52:17seventies [3] - 6:25,
30:28, 31:9several [1] - 54:16shadow [1] - 18:1Sheridan [2] - 60:17,
60:27shoes [2] - 44:17, 45:8shooting [1] - 37:20short [2] - 44:18, 88:15shorter [1] - 44:19shot [8] - 32:23, 38:3,
38:21, 78:5, 85:3, 85:6, 85:7, 85:24
shotgun [2] - 17:27, 18:9show [3] - 34:19, 34:21,
75:1showed [1] - 54:1sick [4] - 14:14, 14:18,
32:21, 52:19side [2] - 11:6, 33:26significance [2] - 15:19,
69:10similar [2] - 3:4, 78:7similarities [1] - 22:25simple [1] - 46:29simply [2] - 48:23, 60:9single [1] - 51:22Siochana [11] - 5:4, 5:5,
7:19, 16:15, 16:18, 30:22, 38:20, 43:9, 55:4, 79:16, 81:19
site [3] - 37:24, 37:25, 39:4
sitting [3] - 1:8, 18:1, 88:21
situated [1] - 15:5situation [12] - 9:16, 15:5,
23:2, 30:19, 30:27, 31:1, 31:5, 33:25, 35:4, 55:28, 56:9, 65:26
six [5] - 10:26, 45:20, 85:19
six-foot-five [1] - 45:20six-foot-six [1] - 45:20sketchy [2] - 42:20, 65:21slaughter [1] - 33:15slaughtered [1] - 30:29slightly [1] - 67:28slip [1] - 70:1slower [1] - 71:12smaller [1] - 45:19SMITH [2] - 40:9, 43:13Smithwick [1] - 40:25smuggler [1] - 79:3smuggling [6] - 15:9,
74:15, 78:23, 78:26, 79:1, 84:7
so-and-so [2] - 33:7
so-called [2] - 22:4, 29:26social [2] - 50:6, 58:27solicitor [3] - 16:15,
52:24, 53:2Solicitor [1] - 87:8solicitors [1] - 87:7solution [1] - 10:14solved" [1] - 34:14someone [2] - 63:28,
64:8sometime [3] - 14:5,
25:21, 60:23sometimes [5] - 28:2,
30:4, 30:5, 30:6, 78:17soon [3] - 38:13, 87:17,
88:15sorry [9] - 21:16, 34:11,
36:15, 70:10, 70:12, 71:11, 74:4, 76:20, 81:8
sought [1] - 6:7sounds [1] - 87:12source [12] - 53:26,
54:30, 63:22, 64:6, 66:28, 67:22, 73:9, 77:27, 78:7, 78:29, 85:14, 85:22
sources [5] - 28:26, 62:14, 62:21, 62:29, 72:30
south [2] - 7:27, 38:7southern [2] - 32:14,
45:11spare [2] - 83:21, 86:8speaking [1] - 85:1Special [3] - 7:3, 33:12,
64:9specific [5] - 19:11,
36:19, 50:25, 84:2, 86:17
specifically [5] - 16:4, 43:17, 43:21, 72:23, 78:20
spectacular [1] - 50:11speech [2] - 45:3, 45:10spent [4] - 7:2, 27:15,
52:15spoken [2] - 46:24, 87:28squad [2] - 6:20, 7:6Square [1] - 31:23stage [8] - 1:16, 9:18,
28:25, 35:16, 46:7, 60:14, 72:21, 84:29
stairs [1] - 33:10Stakeknife' [1] - 49:2stamped [1] - 79:4stand [1] - 38:30start [3] - 4:10, 22:11,
62:8started [4] - 28:22, 35:19,
37:8, 73:14starting [2] - 16:25, 58:25starts [1] - 70:1state [5] - 23:18, 27:6,
43:17, 59:7, 66:7State [4] - 55:13, 55:26,
56:1, 87:8stately [1] - 6:26statement [14] - 12:26,
14:7, 20:26, 21:14, 22:17, 22:20, 29:14, 31:30, 32:1, 45:21, 54:25, 54:26, 67:25
statement.. [1] - 21:3statements [1] - 5:9stating [5] - 15:24, 19:20,
20:29, 49:19, 60:9station [6] - 20:6, 46:16,
51:24, 60:20, 66:13, 73:2
Station [9] - 4:17, 10:1, 14:1, 14:22, 20:23, 46:7, 60:18, 65:14, 65:22
stationed [1] - 13:21status [2] - 15:20, 66:15stay [1] - 73:1step [3] - 10:19, 67:23,
75:13steps [2] - 62:24, 75:16Stevens [4] - 53:28,
53:29, 53:30still [1] - 39:14stolen [1] - 6:30stoned [1] - 31:25stones [2] - 38:14, 38:18stop [1] - 86:27stopping [1] - 66:21stories [2] - 41:28, 85:8story [2] - 35:26, 41:5strategies [1] - 23:23strategy [1] - 23:3Strathearn [2] - 32:20,
32:22Street [1] - 31:23strength [1] - 22:20string [1] - 44:14strong [1] - 77:9stuff [3] - 8:30, 41:29,
74:16subject [1] - 86:11submissions [2] - 40:10,
40:19submitted [1] - 23:11submitting [1] - 71:5subordinate [2] - 32:7,
52:18subordinates [1] - 8:16subsequently [7] - 25:16,
27:6, 27:28, 29:23, 48:13, 48:14, 48:15
subsidy [1] - 79:2subsistence [2] - 24:29,
25:6substance [1] - 14:3substantive [1] - 20:27subtract [1] - 81:22subversive [3] - 15:21,
15:22, 31:12subversives [1] - 16:11suddenly [2] - 10:16,
38:17suggest [4] - 2:16, 15:18,
54:10, 70:8suggested [7] - 6:6,
45:14, 53:17, 54:6, 57:22, 70:21, 70:30
suggesting [10] - 4:13, 11:13, 11:19, 12:10, 16:2, 71:4, 76:5, 77:3, 82:2, 83:25
suggestion [1] - 40:27suggests [1] - 15:18summary [2] - 40:6,
40:25summer [2] - 14:5, 15:13superintendent [1] - 8:5Superintendent [21] -
4:16, 4:17, 5:30, 6:3, 7:16, 7:20, 7:28, 8:29, 9:3, 9:11, 9:12, 13:26, 13:27, 20:17, 20:18, 60:26, 60:29, 66:10, 84:16, 85:19, 85:24
superior [1] - 70:7superiors [1] - 83:3supervisory [1] - 6:17supporters [1] - 31:22suppose [2] - 48:1, 67:19surely [1] - 75:15surprise [1] - 87:11surprised [1] - 9:10surrounding [1] - 38:18surroundings [2] - 50:6,
58:28surveillance [1] - 65:26survive [1] - 24:30suspect [1] - 82:30suspicion [1] - 84:6suspicion" [1] - 33:4suspicions [1] - 83:2suspicious [5] - 74:18,
74:29, 75:2, 79:12, 79:17
sympathetic [2] - 54:12, 54:21
system [7] - 69:13, 69:29, 70:29, 71:6, 71:10, 71:17, 71:21
Ttab [52] - 12:24, 12:25,
14:25, 18:20, 18:29, 19:29, 23:12, 23:25, 25:28, 26:1, 35:28, 36:13, 39:14, 40:24, 41:21, 44:2, 45:13, 45:30, 46:10, 48:1, 48:19, 48:25, 53:11, 56:10, 57:5, 57:30, 58:9, 59:11, 62:13, 67:19, 67:27, 68:8, 68:9, 68:13, 68:22, 68:24, 69:11, 69:16, 70:28, 71:23, 73:4, 73:6, 73:26, 75:5, 81:25, 84:14, 84:22
Tab [3] - 40:5, 62:8, 63:14tabs [1] - 60:7tall [5] - 44:7, 44:8, 44:11,
44:13, 44:18taller [3] - 44:9, 44:19,
45:18tat [2] - 31:1, 31:6
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tattle [2] - 69:25, 69:26Teague [1] - 24:10team [8] - 1:22, 1:24, 6:8,
6:16, 7:6, 7:20, 8:15, 51:21
Team [1] - 62:10teams [1] - 6:18tearing [1] - 70:20Telegraph [1] - 32:10telephoned [3] - 13:29,
14:21, 20:21telescope [1] - 78:15ten [2] - 52:15, 61:13tenuous [1] - 48:23term [2] - 29:17, 86:30terms [12] - 1:6, 11:18,
30:11, 30:14, 33:29, 34:10, 40:7, 54:20, 56:4, 56:5, 67:15, 84:27
terrorist [1] - 38:13tested [2] - 67:8, 67:10that.. [1] - 80:14THE [3] - 1:1, 89:1the.. [1] - 32:11them.. [1] - 16:6themselves [3] - 5:21,
34:13, 78:15therefore [1] - 58:22Thiepval [2] - 50:4, 58:26thin [2] - 44:24, 44:25thinking [1] - 21:13third [2] - 62:17, 67:28thorn [1] - 11:6thoughts [1] - 27:12thousands [1] - 31:27threat [4] - 73:23, 78:26,
80:19, 84:8threats [1] - 78:7three [6] - 7:2, 30:10,
32:16, 54:1, 62:4, 66:24throat [1] - 34:12throughout [1] - 9:16thrown [1] - 34:22tied [2] - 48:10tit [2] - 31:1, 31:6tit-for-tat [2] - 31:1, 31:6tittle [2] - 69:25, 69:26tittle-tattle [2] - 69:25,
69:26TO [1] - 4:1today [7] - 1:3, 4:10,
70:11, 84:13, 86:30, 87:21, 87:26
together [1] - 8:10tolerant [1] - 54:12tolerate [1] - 10:24Tom [9] - 5:15, 14:11,
17:26, 18:8, 48:4, 48:17, 84:14, 85:18, 85:22
tonne [1] - 79:2took [11] - 5:21, 7:25,
13:28, 14:29, 20:1, 20:19, 24:13, 32:10, 34:13, 38:21, 58:26
top [5] - 35:7, 41:22, 57:9, 68:13, 69:2
topic [1] - 50:7torn [1] - 70:22total [1] - 54:27totally [7] - 20:25, 21:1,
21:5, 23:10, 37:25, 40:30, 59:10
towards [3] - 38:6, 54:12, 88:18
train [1] - 51:24trainee [1] - 10:23transcript [5] - 16:22,
18:29, 19:30, 59:12, 60:21
transpired [1] - 72:23travel [1] - 26:26travelling [4] - 15:6,
26:30, 73:19, 73:23treat [1] - 8:5treated [2] - 23:30, 86:9treating [1] - 8:4treatment [1] - 86:13Tribunal [36] - 2:22, 4:6,
4:7, 4:23, 11:4, 11:13, 18:30, 22:3, 23:1, 23:9, 40:6, 40:25, 45:14, 54:14, 54:18, 57:4, 60:25, 61:9, 71:4, 76:10, 76:11, 76:13, 80:18, 83:24, 84:24, 84:27, 85:27, 86:1, 86:3, 86:14, 86:19, 87:11, 87:17, 88:5, 88:12, 88:27
TRIBUNAL [2] - 1:1, 89:1Tribunal's [2] - 40:7,
86:15trick [1] - 41:30tried [1] - 54:10tripe [1] - 74:19triumph [1] - 28:3trouble [2] - 13:1, 29:2true [2] - 54:24, 68:19trust [1] - 8:22truth [1] - 43:5try [4] - 16:5, 27:4, 36:19,
57:7trying [8] - 10:13, 27:27,
30:21, 31:7, 41:30, 52:17, 73:3, 79:25
Tuesday [1] - 1:14Tullyvallen [1] - 33:23turned [1] - 73:12turning [1] - 38:17twice [1] - 80:27two [33] - 2:14, 4:12,
8:18, 9:19, 12:7, 12:9, 12:10, 13:13, 19:17, 20:27, 22:26, 26:7, 30:12, 33:3, 33:11, 34:15, 42:2, 48:4, 49:6, 49:12, 49:16, 49:22, 51:5, 53:29, 65:23, 65:26, 65:28, 66:24, 70:3, 80:5, 80:7, 80:12, 80:15
two-hour [1] - 2:14type [5] - 8:19, 15:2,
26:20, 51:28, 52:6
types [1] - 33:24
UUDR [1] - 31:18Ulster [1] - 79:27ultimate [2] - 8:17, 65:27ultimately [1] - 60:22umbrage [1] - 34:13Una [1] - 6:22unable [1] - 5:16under [8] - 9:27, 28:26,
30:24, 32:17, 78:15, 78:26, 84:8, 87:15
undercover [1] - 23:22underneath [1] - 9:5unfairly [1] - 86:9unfortunate [1] - 73:18unit [8] - 9:4, 26:26,
26:30, 27:5, 55:9, 77:18, 77:19, 77:20
Unit [1] - 62:19unless [1] - 87:25unlicensed [2] - 17:27,
18:9unnecessarily [1] - 40:21unquestionable [1] - 34:4unreliable [4] - 35:13,
59:10, 62:21, 69:5UNTIL [1] - 89:1untrue [1] - 83:28unusual [1] - 67:23up [54] - 8:22, 9:24,
10:25, 11:6, 11:14, 11:16, 11:19, 12:20, 13:2, 22:2, 22:3, 22:9, 27:7, 27:20, 29:24, 30:3, 30:4, 30:15, 30:30, 32:19, 32:20, 32:25, 32:26, 32:30, 33:9, 33:10, 34:1, 34:10, 35:10, 38:1, 38:30, 41:4, 42:21, 42:24, 48:10, 50:7, 51:20, 51:21, 51:29, 52:7, 54:24, 55:9, 59:15, 61:20, 69:29, 70:10, 70:20, 70:22, 73:12, 74:9, 86:15
upstairs [1] - 65:25urged [1] - 22:18usual [1] - 15:13UVF [1] - 31:17
Vvague [1] - 38:28Valentine [1] - 63:17validity [1] - 85:7value [1] - 84:26van [2] - 33:2, 48:11variety [1] - 41:2various [3] - 8:8, 27:10,
30:29vegetation [1] - 37:26venue [3] - 3:1, 3:3, 88:22venues [1] - 30:29via [1] - 49:29
victimised [1] - 9:4view [2] - 2:29, 64:26violence [1] - 56:1visited [1] - 25:11vividly [1] - 38:16voice [1] - 10:20
Wwage [3] - 24:27, 25:5,
41:4wait [1] - 29:29walked [4] - 15:12, 33:10,
39:12, 52:23Walker [2] - 6:24, 6:25Walsh [1] - 60:5wants [1] - 88:5warn [7] - 69:26, 75:8,
75:13, 76:4, 76:21, 83:8warned [3] - 75:17, 76:17,
76:29warranted [1] - 52:2Warrenpoint [1] - 79:24Water [8] - 36:17, 36:25,
36:29, 37:4, 37:18, 37:29, 38:7, 38:27
water [2] - 38:9, 38:19wayside [1] - 8:23weapons [1] - 26:29Wednesday [1] - 2:1week [6] - 29:30, 35:27,
41:5, 52:16, 71:3, 80:28weekly [1] - 41:4weeks [2] - 14:11, 22:26well-known [2] - 24:19,
54:29well.. [1] - 15:28whatnot [1] - 74:13whereas [1] - 38:24whereby [1] - 59:21whilst [1] - 7:5white [1] - 70:1who.. [1] - 26:8whole [2] - 9:27, 22:2wholesale [2] - 30:26,
31:8widest [1] - 32:3width [1] - 38:11William [2] - 32:20, 62:11Willie [7] - 12:27, 13:7,
25:9, 31:19, 31:20, 31:28
window [1] - 17:25wish [4] - 9:23, 40:9,
43:14, 55:30wished [1] - 10:6wishes [1] - 7:20Witness [35] - 26:11,
26:12, 28:13, 28:16, 29:7, 29:9, 49:19, 49:25, 49:29, 50:3, 50:29, 56:15, 56:19, 56:26, 56:28, 56:29, 56:30, 57:3, 57:13, 58:1, 58:13, 59:13, 59:14, 63:14, 63:19, 64:17, 65:18, 67:28, 68:7, 68:9, 68:23, 71:4,
Smithwick Tribunal - 1 August 2012 - Day 119
Doyle Court Reporters Ltd.
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71:23, 73:4, 73:6witness [6] - 1:3, 68:7,
69:24, 70:12, 70:13, 70:25
woman [1] - 5:4wonder [1] - 1:15word [4] - 4:30, 6:12,
23:9, 23:19words [9] - 12:3, 19:23,
22:5, 22:6, 56:17, 63:21, 64:6, 66:23, 85:4
workaholic [1] - 10:27works [2] - 10:12, 35:7world [1] - 30:7worse [3] - 31:1, 31:5,
46:8worse-kept [1] - 46:8worst [1] - 67:3worth [3] - 10:11, 29:2,
79:3write [2] - 32:11, 70:7writing [3] - 59:22, 80:22,
80:23written [8] - 21:2, 24:10,
48:30, 49:6, 52:24, 52:29, 70:18, 87:7
wrongdoing [2] - 11:14, 11:19
wrongly [1] - 82:1wrote [2] - 52:10, 85:10
Yyeah.. [2] - 71:29, 72:22year [1] - 66:3years [15] - 8:15, 8:21,
8:24, 10:22, 21:15, 31:25, 36:24, 37:18, 54:22, 55:12, 56:1, 60:30, 61:13, 80:8, 84:26
yes' [1] - 57:24yes.. [3] - 18:22, 18:25,
78:13you.. [1] - 81:18your.. [1] - 24:5yourself [3] - 6:7, 8:24,
41:16
££3,000 [1] - 79:3