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VILLAGE OF GREENPORT
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK : STATE OF NEW YORK
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HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR SESSION
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September 17, 2020
5:00 p.m.
KAREN DOHERTY - CHAIRPERSON
ROSELLE BORRELLI - MEMBER
LORI MEI - MEMBER
DENNIS MC MAHON - MEMBER
JOSEPH PROKOP - VILLAGE ATTORNEY
PAUL PALLAS - VILLAGE ADMINISTRATOR
AMANDA AURICHIO - CLERK TO THE BOARD
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ITEM DESCRIPTION PAGE
1 500 MAIN STREET 3
Discussion and possible motion on the
application of Holly and J.M. Cato,
represented by Joel Daly. The applicant
seeks approval to replace existing
roof shingles with wood shingles.
SCTM # 1001-4.-3-35.1
2 624 FIRST STREET 9
Discussion and possible motion on the
application of Janice Claudio, Contract
Vendee, represented by Rick Suter. The
applicant seeks approval to construct
a one-story addition in rear of existing
two-story frame house, a new
Detached garage and a new sunroom.
SCTM # 1001-2.-6-49.2
3 Motion to accept and approve the minutes 26
of the August 20, 2020 meeting.
4 Motion to schedule the next Historic 27
Preservation Commission meeting for
5:00 p.m. on October 15, 2020 at the
Third Street Fire Station.
5 Motion to adjourn. 27
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(The meeting was called to order at 5 p.m.)
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: It's after 5 p.m.
I'll call the meeting to order. Thank you for
attending the Village of Greenport Historic
Preservation Commission meeting of September
the 17th, 2020 at the Greenport Firehouse. I'm
Karen Doherty and I'm Chairperson of the Historic
Preservation Commission. Would the other
Members, please, introduce yourself.
MEMBER BORRELLI: I'm Roselle Borrelli.
MEMBER MEI: Lori Mei.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Dennis McMahon.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: So we have a quorum.
If anyone needs to reference them, the agenda and
applications we will be discussing tonight can be
found on the agendas page of the Village of
Greenport website under Historic Preservation
Commission.
We will now move to agenda Item No. 1, the
applica -- 500 Main Street. Discussion and
possible motion on the application of Holly and
J.M. Cato, represented by Joel Daly. The
applicant seeks approval to replace existing
roof shingles with wood shingles.
SCTM #1001-4.-3-35.1.
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Is the applicant or the representative
present?
MR. DALY: Present.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Who would like to
address us?
MR. DALY: Homeowner, contractor.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Okay.
MS. CATO: Joel will speak on my behalf.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Can you -- can you
please state your name and address for the
record?
MR. DALY: Joel Daly, 205 Boisseau Avenue.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Thank you. Okay.
MR. DALY: We have a lovely 1840, right?
MS. CATO: 1830.
MR. DALY: 1830, close. 1830 house that
has roof shingles now. We want to replace it
with wood shingles, and she wants to keep it with
the Historical Society --
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Thank you.
MR. DALY: -- as wood shingles.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Okay.
MS. CATO: Of which she's holding onto.
MR. DALY: Which she's holding onto.
(Laughter)
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MR. DALY: So I have pictures of the house.
MEMBER MEI: Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Thank you so much.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Very professional.
MR. DALY: You want this one?
MEMBER MC MAHON: Professional. Oh, I'd
love -- oh, yeah, of course.
MR. DALY: And they have some shingles
right here.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Beautiful. Wow.
ADMINISTRATOR PALLAS: Excuse me, can I
have a copy of the file?
MR. DALY: Sure.
MEMBER MC MAHON: It's the real deal.
ADMINISTRATOR PALLAS: Thank you.
MEMBER MC MAHON: I'm familiar with the
product.
MEMBER BORRELLI: Thank you.
MEMBER MC MAHON: I have no real questions
in regards to this. I think it's always
fantastic to see a real shingle roof put on. You
know, we don't get too many of those --
MR. DALY: No.
MEMBER MC MAHON: -- these days. That's a
great red cedar shake, too.
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MR. DALY: That's a huge cost, you know.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yeah. Yes, it is. Yes,
it's a true remodeling.
MR. DALY: Holly is willing to do.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yeah. We give you --
MR. DALY: I talked to her about asphalt.
(Laughter)
MEMBER MC MAHON: Tried to talk her into
it, no luck. No, but that's -- that's fantastic
to recreate that, especially on this roof.
There's not a lot of visibility, but it's
beautiful.
MR. DALY: That's what --
MEMBER MC MAHON: We love this house to
death, everybody loves it.
MR. DALY: It has a lot of curves.
MS. CATO: Thank you.
MR. DALY: Do you see the curves on it?
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yeah, yeah. And mine as
well has the same thing. But you know what,
that's -- at one time it was purposeful to keep
the water from going off the gable ends. If you
look at my house at 133, yes, it has a sloped
roof as well. When I stripped all the roofing
off, that was -- it was done in that exact
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fashion to create that look. Francis Fleetwood
does it over in East Hampton and gets a lot of
money for that.
(Laughter)
MR. DALY: It's going to cost you more.
MS. CATO: Interesting, right.
MR. DALY: No, it's already done.
(Laughter)
MEMBER MC MAHON: But as far as I'm
concerned, anybody else has any questions, I'm
all for it, and I think this is a great effort.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: I'd like to thank you
very much for taking all this, you know, effort
and expense to --
MS. CATO: Yeah.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: -- really, you know,
redo the roof in an historical style. So it's
very, you know, good of you. Thank you. Thank
you very much.
MS. CATO: You're welcome. Thank you.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: So I would like to
note that we are only voting on the work and plan
described in your application that you've
presented before us. For any other changes or
anything else that you would like to do, you will
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need to come again before the HPC for a
Certificate of Appropriateness. So thank you for
your attention to this requirement.
MS. CATO: Okay.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: I make a motion to
approve the application and issue a Certificate
of Appropriateness, as the application is in
keeping with the criteria of Greenport Village
Code Sectio 76-7. Is there a second?
MEMBER BORRELLI: I'll second that.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: All in favor?
MEMBER BORRELLI: Aye.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Aye.
MEMBER MEI: Aye.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Aye. Anyone opposed?
No?
(No Response)
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Motion carries.
Thank you very much. Your application is
approved.
MR. DALY: Thank you. Have a good night.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Thank you. Thanks for
the effort.
MS. CATO: Thank you. Joel, can I get the
shingles?
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MR. DALY: No, they got to keep them. No,
I got it.
(Laughter)
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: No, you can take it.
MS. CATO: I know they're expensive.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yeah.
MEMBER MEI: Right, that's right. Thank
you.
MR. DALY: This right here is probably
20 bucks.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yeah.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Bye-bye.
So we are now going to move to agenda Item
No. 2 - 624 First Street. Discussion and
possible motion on the application of Janice
Claudio, Contract Vendee, represented by Rick Suter.
The applicant seeks approval to construct a
one-story addition in the rear of an existing
two-story frame house, a new detached garage and
a new sunroom. SCTM # 1001-2.-6-49.2.
Janice, can you please state your name and
address for the record?
MS. CLAUDIO: Sure. I'm going to take the
table a little bit. So I'm Janice Claudio. I
currently live at 2006 Gull Pond Lane, Greenport.
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I am trying to gain approval on the very serious
renovation of the Parsonage at 624 First Street.
It is my intent to take it apart and put it back
together again, both the interior and the
exterior.
I do very much want to keep the Victorian
farmhouse. It actually in many ways will look
similar to what it looks like now, but it will be
significantly neatened up kind of thing and
changed.
So I do want to just recognize that I have
handed out a new sheet, which is a result of the
ZBA meeting on Tuesday, which refers to the
garage building, and we can go over that. But I
think I'll start with the house, then, and talk
about what I'm proposing there.
So the house will be white clapboard. It
will be the six-inch clapboard.
MEMBER MC MAHON: HardiePlank. That's
HardiePlank and that's something we approve.
MS. CLAUDIO: HardiePlank, yes.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Yes, we do approve,
yeah.
MEMBER MC MAHON: We approve.
MS. CLAUDIO: Right, yeah. I actually read
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everything.
(Laughter)
MS. CLAUDIO: But, anyway, not -- I really
am happy with this material. I think it's a
great material for both maintenance, its
appearance, you know, bugs, and all that kind of
thing, I think it's great.
So it's going to be white clapboard. I
am using Andersen windows, the Historic Series
window. It has a cornice head. So what my
proposal is, is that the window itself will be
black, and then the surround, the cornice head
will be white. So it will be, you know, a
thinner black. And all of the -- all of the
windows will be black in the whole house.
MEMBER MC MAHON: That's very similar to
the enlarged portion that you have right there?
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes. Well, except it's not
white.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Except it's -- okay. But
the sash is going to be black.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes.
MEMBER MC MAHON: And the exterior -- and
the trim will be white.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes.
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MEMBER MC MAHON: And is this the sample of
what --
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes.
MEMBER MC MAHON: -- that cornice will look
like?
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Would you like to pass
that down? Yes. Well, those are very
traditional styles, so that's --
MS. CLAUDIO: Right. So Rick Suter is the
Architect. He would not allow me to pick
anything else, which I did try for a little
while. But, anyway, he's keeping me on track
with the Victorian farmhouse. He's excited about
the project, too, which is fun.
MEMBER MC MAHON: I'm not so familiar
with -- there's so many different lines of
Andersen windows and everybody else, but I
assume, and I don't want to have to assume, but
that's a true divided light --
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes.
MEMBER MC MAHON: -- window. All right.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes. And it's a two-over-two
I'm going to go with.
MEMBER MC MAHON: That's what we -- we love
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that as well.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yeah, the nice long window
look.
MEMBER MC MAHON: That's a nice window.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yeah, yep
MEMBER MC MAHON: Easy to clean.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yeah. That's -- yeah, it
does, that clean edgy look.
MEMBER MC MAHON: I know.
MS. CLAUDIO: Okay. So that color
combination dictates a lot of easy other choices.
There are two bay windows on the house. We're
going to -- the front one remains the same size.
It will be a black standing seam metal roof over
that window, and then the second -- the entrance
of the house is on the side. The predominant,
you know, the way in and all that is on the side.
But the second bay window is going to be expanded
a little bit, and that will also have the black
standing seam roof, as will the new porch over
the front door, that will have the black standing
seam roof. So guess what color the roof is?
MEMBER BORRELLI: Black.
(Laughter)
MEMBER MC MAHON: Those are actually very
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traditional. Okay.
MS. CLAUDIO: Right.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Okay. So that's that.
That's charcoal black or something similar.
MS. CLAUDIO: Black.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Black, black, black.
MS. CLAUDIO: The front door will be a
raised panel door. It, too, will be painted
black. It will be a painted door, it will be
black, and it will look like this.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Wow.
MS. CLAUDIO: Not the whole thing, but the
look.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Painted front bar,
traditional panel.
MS. CLAUDIO: I'll have a little bit of
foundation showing. I'm going to do that in
brick, small brick, and I'm going to paint that
black. So it should be very edgy, clean, simple
lines.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yeah.
MS. CLAUDIO: Any questions on the main
house?
MEMBER BORRELLI: Jan, so when you're
looking at these plans, right, west front is the
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part of the house that faces First Street?
MS. CLAUDIO: Correct.
MEMBER BORRELLI: Right? Okay.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: So my sense is you're
really giving the house a balance as well with
the changes you're making.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes, yes. You did ask about
that porch. It's impossible to tell. Rick felt
that the rounded columns that are currently there
now suggested it wasn't original to the Victorian
farmhouse structure, but no.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: And also, like other
houses in the Historic District, is has been
added to and detracted from.
MS. CLAUDIO: Right, right, as I'm going to
do, too, now, to it, add that back bedroom, so.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yeah. I like the fact
that the barn has a little, tiny -- it's not
quite a cupola, but it's a nice -- it's a touch.
The round in the garage, as well as the main
house, from the streetscape has the round
windows, and you'll visual -- you'll see in the
visual the standing seam roof in each of those
profiles is kind of cool.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yeah, I think that metal roof
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is cool, too.
MEMBER MC MAHON: I like that, yeah, I like
that.
MS. CLAUDIO: So in looking at the garage,
you have to look at the new sheet, the new three
pages. It is -- the exterior of it is going to
be batten board. We're talking about 8 feet
with -- well, the batten board will be in the
middle, and it will be six inches on either side
and then another board. So it will mimic the
clapboard, but only it's going to be vertical.
We have an exciting -- I think a great
element on the north side, which is a garden room
that you'll see here, and that's for -- it's
either going to be sliding doors or bifold,
depending on what the pricing comes in. I want
bifold, but I might settle for sliding. But --
so, again, it's black and white. It's the same
window, it's the same color scheme. Any fixture
that will go on the house will be black. You
know, it's fairly straightforward.
MEMBER BORRELLI: And, Jan, on the one
that's in pencil, the plan that's in pencil,
where it says "porch", that was -- that's crossed
out, right, because the porch is not there,
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it's on --
MS. CLAUDIO: Are you looking at the --
MEMBER BORRELLI: This one?
MS. CLAUDIO: Right. So that's the site
plan.
MEMBER BORRELLI: So that was -- that was
crossed off.
MS. CLAUDIO: Right. So the porch that's
there is taken off and 5.5 feet are added, and
tall windows are added, three on the front, four
on the side, and that's going to be a sunroom.
MEMBER BORRELLI: Okay.
MEMBER MEI: And then the porch is going to
be on the other side.
MEMBER MC MAHON: That's this.
MS. CLAUDIO: No, this is all -- this is
all garage, this whole thing.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Oh, oh, oh, okay.
MS. CLAUDIO: What we were talking about --
MEMBER MC MAHON: I thought I was looking
at a -- I thought I was looking at this portion.
All right, my mistake.
MS. CLAUDIO: What we're talking about
there is --
MEMBER MC MAHON: Put that away.
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MS. CLAUDIO: -- is this portion.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Okay, gotcha. Oh, yeah,
okay. Yes, yep.
MEMBER MEI: I had a question to ask you
about the --
MS. CLAUDIO: Sure.
MEMBER MEI: -- fence. And I want to, you
know, commend you for providing additional
information about the fence. We just want to
make sure you still intended to -- I'm assuming,
black wrought iron, three feet high.
MS. CLAUDIO: Oh, talk about that? Sure.
MEMBER MEI: Yes.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes, I should have, you're
right. Okay.
MEMBER MEI: Right.
MS. CLAUDIO: So it's a very short front to
the street, right? So the intent on that is to
add a low profile black wrought iron fence. So
it should pull that eye forward and down from the
house. Ideally, I'd like to buy an original low
wrought iron, you know, if I can find that. It's
not going to be any -- it's not functional, it's
decorative. It won't be solid, it won't -- it
will be airy. You know, it --
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MEMBER MEI: So by saying original, it will
be period.
MS. CLAUDIO: Of period, right.
MEMBER MEI: It won't be modern.
MS. CLAUDIO: Right, yes. That would be a
home run to me if I could, and I know a place to
look. And, you know, I'm going to go to that,
but I don't have that done yet. And I see it's
three to four feet, is what it is.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yeah.
MS. CLAUDIO: And it will be airy.
MEMBER MEI: Thank you.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yeah.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yes. I look directly
across at the same sort of fencing --
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes.
MEMBER MC MAHON: -- that's still existing
across my home on Central Ave, and, yeah, how
lovely.
MS. CLAUDIO: It's so lovely. The Mills
have it.
MEMBER MC MAHON: The Mills' fence.
MS. CLAUDIO: I mean, it's around the
Village a bit.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yeah.
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MS. CLAUDIO: I mean, I look at it all the
time, it's beautiful.
MEMBER MC MAHON: They have it in all sorts
of places.
MS. CLAUDIO: Right, the Victorian, yeah.
MEMBER MC MAHON: So, yeah, it's not often
you see too much of it anymore, so it would be
nice to see it reintroduced.
MS. CLAUDIO: Apparently, Saugerties,
New York, they specialize in finding this stuff.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Brooklyn, yeah, Brooklyn
companies.
MS. CLAUDIO: So that's my intent, to make
a trip up there.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yes, yes.
MEMBER BORRELLI: Jan, I just had a
question. So when you look at this site plan
here, the garage is on -- when you're looking at
First Street, would be on the back left corner of
the house, but then the plans say the garage is
actually going to be where the other one says the
chicken coop is, is that right?
MS. CLAUDIO: So the chicken coop is the
survey. The -- yes, the garage will take the
space that the chicken coop -- the chicken coop
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is actually tucked in, and the garage would be
5 feet off the east and 5 feet off the south.
MEMBER BORRELLI: So that's a new structure
also, the garage?
MS. CLAUDIO: There is no garage at all.
MEMBER BORRELLI: Okay.
MS. CLAUDIO: So it will be built.
MEMBER BORRELLI: Okay. So this garage
over here is the other person's garage, or
they're taking that down or --
MS. CLAUDIO: Oh, you're on the survey.
Yeah, that's Karen Pollack.
MEMBER BORRELLI: Oh, okay. That's the
other garage, okay.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yeah.
MEMBER BORRELLI: And just another
question. The little round window, right --
MS. CLAUDIO: Yep.
MEMBER BORRELLI: -- facing First Street --
MS. CLAUDIO: Yep.
MEMBER BORRELLI: -- was that -- is that
one original to the house?
MS. CLAUDIO: The concept is a Victorian
farmhouse. The -- I don't know if that window
is, but it is true to the period.
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MEMBER BORRELLI: Right.
MS. CLAUDIO: So we are doing it in black.
MEMBER BORRELLI: Yes.
MS. CLAUDIO: Of course.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yeah, and it's
repeated --
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes.
MEMBER MC MAHON: -- at each gable end.
MEMBER BORRELLI: Yes, I see that.
MEMBER MC MAHON: It's nice.
MEMBER BORRELLI: I was wondering if it was
an original window or not.
MS. CLAUDIO: I don't think. If it is,
it's rounded in aluminum. You know, I can't --
MEMBER BORRELLI: I know.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yeah. So --
MEMBER BORRELLI: Okay.
MS. CLAUDIO: It could very well be, only
because it's true to the period, that's why it's
here.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Well, it's got all the
bells and whistles for appropriateness, I think.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: I was going to say,
does anyone have any other questions?
MEMBER BORRELLI: No, no.
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CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Okay. Are we ready
to vote?
MEMBER MC MAHON: Okay. Thank you for your
presentation as well. We always like it when
everybody comes with everything we need.
(Laughter)
MS. CLAUDIO: Listen, I'm excited to talk
about the house. I kind of -- you know, I kind
of bore everybody else, and I know you guys are
bored with this.
(Laughter)
ADMINISTRATOR PALLAS: Madam Chair, if I
may.
MS. CLAUDIO: Yes.
ADMINISTRATOR PALLAS: If I could just --
assuming you ultimately approve it the next
minute or so, I would just ask the applicant,
before you leave, if we could get the model, make
and model number of the material that was
provided for the file for the Certificate, the
Certificate of Appropriateness.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: You know, I think the
mask makes me not be able to hear.
(Laughter)
ADMINISTRATOR PALLAS: I'll try again, I'm
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sorry. I was a little -- I'll try, I'll try
harder. If I -- I just would like to get the
make and model number of windows and doors that
were talked about for the Certificate of
Appropriateness --
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Okay. So --
ADMINISTRATOR PALLAS: -- so we can include
that for the record.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yes.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Okay, that would be
good.
ADMINISTRATOR PALLAS: Please.
MEMBER MC MAHON: All right.
MEMBER BORRELLI: Do you want to send that
back, the make and model?
MS. CLAUDIO: Do you want me to write it up
and send it to you, or do you want --
MEMBER BORRELLI: Well, it's also here,
she's got it right here.
ADMINISTRATOR PALLAS: Yes, either way. I
mean, we'll get it real quick.
MS. CLAUDIO: I could mail it to Amanda,
then?
MS. AURICHIO: That's fine.
ADMINISTRATOR PALLAS: Yeah, it's fine.
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MS. CLAUDIO: Back there, and this is for
you.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Jan, would you be
able to do that tonight, because I will be
dropping by Village Hall tomorrow.
ADMINISTRATOR PALLAS: That's why I was --
that's why I was suggesting you could just write
it down tonight.
MS. CLAUDIO: All right. I'll just write
it. I'll write it down, sure.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Okay. Thank you very
much.
MS. CLAUDIO: Thank you very much.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yes, because we do have
the make and model, correct?
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Yeah.
MEMBER MC MAHON: All right.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: I would like to say
that we are voting on the work and the plans that
you've submitted, however, as amended --
MS. CLAUDIO: Right.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: -- by the new plan
today for the garage, so that is included. For
any other changes or revisions or additions, you
will need to come back in front of the HPC again
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for another Certificate of Appropriateness. And
thank you for all the material you brought today
and for your attention to this request.
I make a motion to approve the application
and issue a Certificate of Appropriateness, as
the application is in keeping with the criteria
of Greenport Village Code Section 76-7. Is there
a second?
MEMBER MC MAHON: Second.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: All in favor?
MEMBER BORRELLI: Aye.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Aye.
MEMBER MEI: Aye.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Aye. Motion carries.
Thank you.
MS. CLAUDIO: Thanks, guys.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Item No. 3, motion to
accept and approve the minutes of the August
20th, 2020 meeting. Do I have a -- I vote to
approve. And do I have a second?
MEMBER BORRELLI: Yeah, I'll second it.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: All in favor?
MEMBER BORRELLI: Aye.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Aye.
MEMBER MEI: Aye.
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CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Aye. Motion carries.
Item No. 4, motion to schedule the next
Historic Preservation Commission meeting for
5 p.m. on October 15th, 2020 at the Third Street
Fire Station. I make a motion to approve. Do I
have a second?
MEMBER MEI: Second.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: All in favor?
MEMBER BORRELLI: Aye.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Aye.
MEMBER MEI: Aye.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Aye. Motion carries.
Item 5, motion to adjourn. Do I have a
second?
MEMBER BORRELLI: Second.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Yes, indeedy.
(Laughter)
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Good. All in favor?
MEMBER BORRELLI: Aye.
MEMBER MC MAHON: Aye.
MEMBER MEI: Aye.
CHAIRPERSON DOHERTY: Aye. Meeting is
adjourned. Thank you very much.
(The meeting was adjourned at 5:22 p.m.)
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C E R T I F I C A T I O N
STATE OF NEW YORK )
) SS:
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK )
I, LUCIA BRAATEN, a Court Reporter and
Notary Public for and within the State of New
York, do hereby certify:
THAT, the above and foregoing contains a
true and correct transcription of the Historic
Preservation Commission meeting of September 17,
2020.
I further certify that I am not related to
any of the parties to this action by blood or
marriage, and that I am in no way interested in
the outcome of this matter.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my
hand this 23rd day of September, 2020.
____________________ Lucia Braaten
Lucia Braaten
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Karen [2] - 3:7, 21:12KAREN [1] - 1:11keep [4] - 4:18, 6:21,
9:1, 10:6keeping [3] - 8:8,
12:13, 26:6kind [5] - 10:9, 11:6,
15:24, 23:8
L
Lane [1] - 9:25Laughter [11] - 4:25,
6:7, 7:4, 7:8, 9:3, 11:2, 13:24, 23:6, 23:11, 23:24, 27:17
leave [1] - 23:18left [1] - 20:19light [1] - 12:20lines [2] - 12:17, 14:20listen [1] - 23:7live [1] - 9:25look [13] - 6:23, 7:1,
10:7, 12:4, 13:3, 13:8, 14:10, 14:13, 16:5, 19:7, 19:14, 20:1, 20:17
looking [6] - 14:25, 16:4, 17:2, 17:20, 17:21, 20:18
looks [1] - 10:8Lori [1] - 3:11LORI [1] - 1:13
love [3] - 5:7, 6:14, 12:25
lovely [3] - 4:14, 19:19, 19:20
loves [1] - 6:15low [2] - 18:19, 18:21LUCIA [1] - 28:7Lucia [1] - 28:21luck [1] - 6:9
M
madam [1] - 23:12MAHON [70] - 1:14,
3:12, 5:4, 5:6, 5:10, 5:14, 5:16, 5:19, 5:24, 6:2, 6:5, 6:8, 6:14, 6:19, 7:9, 8:13, 8:22, 9:6, 9:11, 10:19, 10:24, 11:16, 11:20, 11:23, 12:1, 12:4, 12:7, 12:16, 12:22, 12:25, 13:4, 13:6, 13:9, 13:25, 14:3, 14:6, 14:11, 14:14, 14:21, 15:17, 16:2, 17:15, 17:18, 17:20, 17:25, 18:2, 19:10, 19:14, 19:17, 19:22, 19:25, 20:3, 20:6, 20:11, 20:15, 22:5, 22:8, 22:10, 22:21, 23:3, 24:9, 24:13, 25:14, 25:17, 26:9, 26:12, 26:24, 27:10, 27:16, 27:20
mail [1] - 24:22main [2] - 14:22, 15:20MAIN [1] - 2:3Main [1] - 3:20maintenance [1] -
11:5marriage [1] - 28:16mask [1] - 23:23material [4] - 11:4,
11:5, 23:19, 26:2matter [1] - 28:17MC [70] - 1:14, 3:12,
5:4, 5:6, 5:10, 5:14, 5:16, 5:19, 5:24, 6:2, 6:5, 6:8, 6:14, 6:19, 7:9, 8:13, 8:22, 9:6, 9:11, 10:19, 10:24,
11:16, 11:20, 11:23, 12:1, 12:4, 12:7, 12:16, 12:22, 12:25, 13:4, 13:6, 13:9, 13:25, 14:3, 14:6, 14:11, 14:14, 14:21, 15:17, 16:2, 17:15, 17:18, 17:20, 17:25, 18:2, 19:10, 19:14, 19:17, 19:22, 19:25, 20:3, 20:6, 20:11, 20:15, 22:5, 22:8, 22:10, 22:21, 23:3, 24:9, 24:13, 25:14, 25:17, 26:9, 26:12, 26:24, 27:10, 27:16, 27:20
McMahon [1] - 3:12mean [3] - 19:23, 20:1,
24:21meeting [11] - 2:20,
2:22, 3:1, 3:3, 3:5, 10:13, 26:19, 27:3, 27:22, 27:24, 28:12
MEI [18] - 1:13, 3:11, 5:2, 8:14, 9:7, 17:13, 18:4, 18:7, 18:13, 18:16, 19:1, 19:4, 19:12, 26:13, 26:25, 27:7, 27:11, 27:21
Mei [1] - 3:11MEMBER [123] - 1:12,
1:13, 1:14, 3:10, 3:11, 3:12, 5:2, 5:4, 5:6, 5:10, 5:14, 5:16, 5:18, 5:19, 5:24, 6:2, 6:5, 6:8, 6:14, 6:19, 7:9, 8:10, 8:12, 8:13, 8:14, 8:22, 9:6, 9:7, 9:11, 10:19, 10:24, 11:16, 11:20, 11:23, 12:1, 12:4, 12:7, 12:16, 12:22, 12:25, 13:4, 13:6, 13:9, 13:23, 13:25, 14:3, 14:6, 14:11, 14:14, 14:21, 14:24, 15:3, 15:17, 16:2, 16:22, 17:3, 17:6, 17:12, 17:13, 17:15, 17:18, 17:20, 17:25, 18:2, 18:4, 18:7, 18:13, 18:16, 19:1, 19:4, 19:10, 19:12, 19:14,
19:17, 19:22, 19:25, 20:3, 20:6, 20:11, 20:15, 20:16, 21:3, 21:6, 21:8, 21:13, 21:16, 21:19, 21:21, 22:1, 22:3, 22:5, 22:8, 22:9, 22:10, 22:11, 22:15, 22:17, 22:21, 22:25, 23:3, 24:9, 24:13, 24:14, 24:18, 25:14, 25:17, 26:9, 26:11, 26:12, 26:13, 26:21, 26:23, 26:24, 26:25, 27:7, 27:9, 27:10, 27:11, 27:15, 27:16, 27:19, 27:20, 27:21
Members [1] - 3:9metal [2] - 13:14,
15:25middle [1] - 16:9might [1] - 16:17Mills [1] - 19:20Mills' [1] - 19:22mimic [1] - 16:10mine [1] - 6:19minute [1] - 23:17minutes [2] - 2:19,
26:18mistake [1] - 17:22model [5] - 23:18,
23:19, 24:3, 24:15, 25:15
modern [1] - 19:4money [1] - 7:3Motion [3] - 2:19,
2:21, 2:25motion [14] - 2:4,
2:11, 3:21, 8:5, 8:18, 9:15, 26:4, 26:14, 26:17, 27:1, 27:2, 27:5, 27:12, 27:13
move [2] - 3:19, 9:13MR [23] - 4:3, 4:6,
4:12, 4:14, 4:16, 4:21, 4:24, 5:1, 5:5, 5:8, 5:13, 5:23, 6:1, 6:4, 6:6, 6:13, 6:16, 6:18, 7:5, 7:7, 8:21, 9:1, 9:9
MS [82] - 4:15, 4:23, 6:17, 7:6, 7:15, 7:20, 8:4, 8:24, 9:5, 9:23,
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10:21, 10:25, 11:3, 11:18, 11:22, 11:25, 12:3, 12:6, 12:10, 12:21, 12:23, 13:2, 13:5, 13:7, 13:10, 14:2, 14:5, 14:7, 14:12, 14:16, 14:22, 15:2, 15:7, 15:15, 15:25, 16:4, 17:2, 17:4, 17:8, 17:16, 17:19, 17:23, 18:1, 18:6, 18:12, 18:14, 18:17, 19:3, 19:5, 19:11, 19:13, 19:16, 19:20, 19:23, 20:1, 20:5, 20:9, 20:13, 20:23, 21:5, 21:7, 21:11, 21:15, 21:18, 21:20, 21:23, 22:2, 22:4, 22:7, 22:13, 22:16, 22:18, 23:7, 23:14, 24:16, 24:22, 24:24, 25:1, 25:9, 25:13, 25:21, 26:16
N
name [2] - 4:10, 9:21neatened [1] - 10:9need [3] - 8:1, 23:5,
25:25needs [1] - 3:14New [2] - 20:10, 28:8new [10] - 2:16, 2:17,
9:19, 9:20, 10:12, 13:20, 16:5, 21:3, 25:22
NEW [2] - 1:2, 28:3next [3] - 2:21, 23:16,
27:2nice [5] - 13:2, 13:4,
15:19, 20:8, 22:10night [1] - 8:21north [1] - 16:13Notary [1] - 28:8note [1] - 7:22number [2] - 23:19,
24:3
O
October [2] - 2:23, 27:4
OF [5] - 1:1, 1:2, 28:3,
28:5often [1] - 20:6one [9] - 2:15, 5:5,
6:21, 9:18, 13:13, 16:22, 17:3, 20:21, 21:22
one-story [2] - 2:15, 9:18
opposed [1] - 8:15order [2] - 3:1, 3:3original [5] - 15:10,
18:21, 19:1, 21:22, 22:12
outcome [1] - 28:17
P
p.m [6] - 1:8, 2:23, 3:1, 3:2, 27:4, 27:24
page [1] - 3:16PAGE [1] - 2:2pages [1] - 16:6paint [1] - 14:18painted [3] - 14:8,
14:9, 14:14PALLAS [11] - 1:17,
5:11, 5:15, 23:12, 23:15, 23:25, 24:7, 24:12, 24:20, 24:25, 25:6
panel [2] - 14:8, 14:15Parsonage [1] - 10:2part [1] - 15:1parties [1] - 28:15pass [1] - 12:7PAUL [1] - 1:17pencil [2] - 16:23period [4] - 19:2, 19:3,
21:25, 22:19person's [1] - 21:9pick [1] - 12:11pictures [1] - 5:1place [1] - 19:6places [1] - 20:4plan [5] - 7:22, 16:23,
17:5, 20:17, 25:22plans [3] - 14:25,
20:20, 25:19Pollack [1] - 21:12Pond [1] - 9:25porch [6] - 13:20,
15:8, 16:24, 16:25, 17:8, 17:13
portion [3] - 11:17, 17:21, 18:1
possible [4] - 2:4, 2:11, 3:21, 9:15
predominant [1] - 13:16
present [2] - 4:2, 4:3presentation [1] -
23:4presented [1] - 7:24PRESERVATION [1] -
1:4Preservation [6] -
2:22, 3:5, 3:8, 3:17, 27:3, 28:12
pricing [1] - 16:16product [1] - 5:17professional [2] - 5:4,
5:6profile [1] - 18:19profiles [1] - 15:24project [1] - 12:15PROKOP [1] - 1:16proposal [1] - 11:11proposing [1] - 10:16provided [1] - 23:20providing [1] - 18:8Public [1] - 28:8pull [1] - 18:20purposeful [1] - 6:21put [3] - 5:21, 10:3,
17:25
Q
questions [4] - 5:19, 7:10, 14:22, 22:24
quick [1] - 24:21quite [1] - 15:19quorum [1] - 3:13
R
raised [1] - 14:8read [1] - 10:25ready [1] - 23:1real [4] - 5:14, 5:19,
5:21, 24:21really [3] - 7:16, 11:3,
15:5rear [2] - 2:15, 9:18recognize [1] - 10:11record [3] - 4:11, 9:22,
24:8recreate [1] - 6:10red [1] - 5:25redo [1] - 7:17reference [1] - 3:14refers [1] - 10:13regards [1] - 5:20REGULAR [1] - 1:5reintroduced [1] -
20:8related [1] - 28:14remains [1] - 13:13remodeling [1] - 6:3renovation [1] - 10:2repeated [1] - 22:6replace [3] - 2:7, 3:23,
4:17Reporter [1] - 28:7representative [1] -
4:1represented [4] - 2:6,
2:13, 3:22, 9:16request [1] - 26:3requirement [1] - 8:3Response [1] - 8:17result [1] - 10:12revisions [1] - 25:24Rick [4] - 2:13, 9:16,
12:10, 15:8roof [13] - 2:8, 3:24,
4:17, 5:21, 6:10, 6:24, 7:17, 13:14, 13:20, 13:22, 15:23, 15:25
roofing [1] - 6:24room [1] - 16:13Roselle [1] - 3:10ROSELLE [1] - 1:12round [3] - 15:20,
15:21, 21:17rounded [2] - 15:9,
22:14run [1] - 19:6
S
sample [1] - 12:1sash [1] - 11:21Saugerties [1] - 20:9schedule [2] - 2:21,
27:2scheme [1] - 16:19SCTM [4] - 2:9, 2:18,
3:25, 9:20seam [4] - 13:14,
13:20, 13:22, 15:23second [12] - 8:9,
8:10, 13:15, 13:18, 26:8, 26:9, 26:20, 26:21, 27:6, 27:7, 27:14, 27:15
Sectio [1] - 8:9Section [1] - 26:7see [8] - 5:21, 6:18,
15:22, 16:14, 19:8, 20:7, 20:8, 22:9
seeks [4] - 2:7, 2:14, 3:23, 9:17
send [2] - 24:14, 24:17sense [1] - 15:4September [4] - 1:7,
3:5, 28:12, 28:19Series [1] - 11:9serious [1] - 10:1SESSION [1] - 1:5set [1] - 28:18settle [1] - 16:17shake [1] - 5:25sheet [2] - 10:12, 16:5shingle [1] - 5:21shingles [9] - 2:8,
3:24, 4:17, 4:18, 4:21, 5:8, 8:25
short [1] - 18:17showing [1] - 14:17side [6] - 13:16, 13:17,
16:9, 16:13, 17:11, 17:14
significantly [1] - 10:9similar [3] - 10:8,
11:16, 14:4simple [1] - 14:19site [2] - 17:4, 20:17six [2] - 10:18, 16:9six-inch [1] - 10:18size [1] - 13:13sliding [2] - 16:15,
16:17sloped [1] - 6:23small [1] - 14:18Society [1] - 4:19solid [1] - 18:24sorry [1] - 24:1sort [1] - 19:15sorts [1] - 20:3south [1] - 21:2
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space [1] - 20:25specialize [1] - 20:10SS [1] - 28:4standing [4] - 13:14,
13:20, 13:21, 15:23start [1] - 10:15STATE [2] - 1:2, 28:3state [2] - 4:10, 9:21State [1] - 28:8Station [2] - 2:24, 27:5still [2] - 18:10, 19:17story [4] - 2:15, 2:16,
9:18, 9:19straightforward [1] -
16:21Street [8] - 2:24, 3:20,
9:14, 10:2, 15:1, 20:19, 21:19, 27:4
street [1] - 18:18STREET [2] - 2:3, 2:10streetscape [1] -
15:21stripped [1] - 6:24structure [2] - 15:11,
21:3stuff [1] - 20:10style [1] - 7:17styles [1] - 12:9submitted [1] - 25:20SUFFOLK [2] - 1:2,
28:5suggested [1] - 15:10suggesting [1] - 25:7sunroom [3] - 2:17,
9:20, 17:11surround [1] - 11:12survey [2] - 20:24,
21:11Suter [3] - 2:13, 9:16,
12:10
T
table [1] - 9:24tall [1] - 17:10THAT [1] - 28:10THE [1] - 1:18thinner [1] - 11:14Third [2] - 2:24, 27:4three [4] - 16:5, 17:10,
18:11, 19:9tiny [1] - 15:18TO [1] - 1:18
today [2] - 25:23, 26:2together [1] - 10:4tomorrow [1] - 25:5tonight [3] - 3:15,
25:4, 25:8touch [1] - 15:19track [1] - 12:13traditional [3] - 12:9,
14:1, 14:15transcription [1] -
28:11tried [1] - 6:8trim [1] - 11:24trip [1] - 20:14true [5] - 6:3, 12:20,
21:25, 22:19, 28:11try [4] - 12:12, 23:25,
24:1trying [1] - 10:1tucked [1] - 21:1Tuesday [1] - 10:13two [5] - 2:16, 9:19,
12:23, 13:12two-over-two [1] -
12:23two-story [2] - 2:16,
9:19
U
ultimately [1] - 23:16under [1] - 3:17up [3] - 10:9, 20:14,
24:16
V
Vendee [2] - 2:13, 9:16
vertical [1] - 16:11Victorian [5] - 10:6,
12:14, 15:10, 20:5, 21:23
VILLAGE [3] - 1:1, 1:16, 1:17
Village [6] - 3:4, 3:16, 8:8, 19:24, 25:5, 26:7
visibility [1] - 6:11visual [2] - 15:22,
15:23vote [2] - 23:2, 26:19voting [2] - 7:22,
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25:19
W
wants [1] - 4:18water [1] - 6:22ways [1] - 10:7website [1] - 3:17welcome [1] - 7:20west [1] - 14:25WHEREOF [1] - 28:18whistles [1] - 22:22white [6] - 10:17, 11:8,
11:13, 11:19, 11:24, 16:18
whole [3] - 11:15, 14:12, 17:17
willing [1] - 6:4window [11] - 11:10,
11:11, 12:22, 13:2, 13:4, 13:15, 13:18, 16:19, 21:17, 21:24, 22:12
windows [7] - 11:9, 11:15, 12:18, 13:12, 15:22, 17:10, 24:3
WITNESS [1] - 28:18wondering [1] - 22:11wood [4] - 2:8, 3:24,
4:18, 4:21wow [2] - 5:10, 14:11write [4] - 24:16, 25:7,
25:9, 25:10wrought [3] - 18:11,
18:19, 18:22
Y
YORK [2] - 1:2, 28:3York [2] - 20:10, 28:9yourself [1] - 3:9
Z
ZBA [1] - 10:13