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© JR DeLisle, Ph. D.
Real Estate Outlook 2010:No Bottom, No Net
presented to:Seattle Chapter of the Appraisal Institute
Fall Conference
by: Jim DeLisle, Ph.D.
December 1, 2009
Annotated. Select View Notes in PPT to read my text.
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Presentation Overview
I: Outlook 2010 Prelude
II: Economic and Capital Markets
III: Real Estate Capital Markets
IV: Commercial Real Estate Market Update
V: Implications for Seattle Real Estate Market
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Three Major Attributes of Real Estate Revisited
Three major attributes of real estate . . .
– L,– L,– L.
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. . . . . . . ulnerable,
. . . . . . . ulnerable,
. . . . . . . ulnerable.The 2009 regime of real estate . . .
– D– D– D
. . . . . . . istressed, . . . . . . . istressed, . . . . . . . istressed.
Three major attributes of real estate . . .
– L,– L,– L.
The 2010 + regime of real estate . . .
Liability, Litigation, Liquidity (NOT!)
L, L, L
Butt, what the “L”?
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Commercial Real Estate: How we Got Here
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How We’re Doing: Institutional Real Estate
Source: NCREIF
The Good News…. It’s not as bad as it was
The “Bad News”
Implicit Cap Rates 200bp below averages
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The Three C’s of our Disconnect
• Credit Crisis– Easy Credit– Cheap Credit– Plentiful Credit
• Crisis of Confidence– Consumer Confidence– Corporate Confidence
• Crisis of Collateral– Value attributable to delinking spatial market/capital market– Values correction as “marked to market”– Re-pricing of Risk
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Rising Rents
Val
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Spatial & Capital De-connect and Re-connect
WarrantedConstruction: Expanding Demand
CapitalMarket Bubble
MarketInefficiency
Spatial Market
Capital Market
Cap Rate RiseInterest Rates/Debt Rise
Vacancy UpRents Down
BV(Bubble Value)
Debt -20%+/-Bubble
Cap R -20%+/-Bubble
Market -10-20%+/-Softening
-40-60%
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What Happened: Commoditization of Pricing
Market Risk/Return Long-Term
Recent: Risk/Return 5 yrs
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Who Responded to the Survey?
Experience of RespondentsWhat Specializations?
JRD Prediction
Number with Same Company will decline…..
Others: Regulator, pension advisor, government, right-of-way, lender appraisal department, lawyer, student
Seattle MAI Respondents
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When National & Seattle Markets Bottom Out?
National
Seattle Respondents
Seattle
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Part II: A Growing Consensus on Economy
Seattle Respondents
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Breaking News on Real Estate & the Economy
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The Good News: Employment Losses Slowing
Source: economy.com
Net Employment losses
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Jobless Claims Slowing?
10%
The glass is half-full syndrome; wishful but tentative….
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Business Cycles: An Historical ComparisonClick for annotation
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Critical Elements to Sustainable Recovery
The Future Remains Uncertain
Few degrees of freedom; stars must stay aligned….
Seattle MAI Respondents
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Federal Stimulus Funding: Pledged & Provided
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US Recovery Status
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Business Inventories and Business Spending
Business SpendingBusiness Inventories
Good News: Manufacturing up
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• Small business report tighter credit
• Reactions– Cutting payrolls
– Reducing inventory
– Reducing capital spending
• Outlook– No near-term
improvement
Focus on Small Business
Source: economy.com
Credit Remains Tight for Business
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Housing Activity and Delinquency Rates
Construction
Housing Index
Delinquency & Default
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Residential Delinquencies, Foreclosures & Charge-Offs
Loan Charge-Off Rates to Rise
Source: economy.com
Delinquency Rates Residential Foreclosures
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Consumer Confidence, Spending & CreditConsumers Contracting
Source: economy.com
Consumers are over 70% of GDP….
As of October 2009, recent uptick in retail sales on Year over Year; partly weak 2008…
Butt…
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Global and Domestic Business Confidence
Source: economy.com
U.S. Business ConfidenceSome improvement….
But, deficit….
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Global Recession Map
Source: economy.com
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Part II Summary: The Economy
Macro-economic Environment
• Economy showing some signs of turning
• Businesses struggling, credit tight
• Consumers bearish
The Future Remains Uncertain
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Part III: Real Estate Capital Markets
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Current and Future National-Level Cap Rates
Most common: modes
Seattle MAI Respondents
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Current and Future Seattle-Area Cap Rates
Seattle MAI Respondents
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CBA: Properties for Sale Output
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Seattle Capital Market: Agree/Not
Seattle MAI Respondents
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Capital Markets & Capital Flows
• Investment Preferences– Core assets at distressed
prices
– Major markets, strong assets
• Timing– Still waiting for bottom
– Indecisive; slower to act
• Opportunities– Cash
– Distress
– Takeovers
• Decreased capital flows– Investors still frozen
– Debt limited sources & tighter
– Access & yield for equity
• Capital Market Challenges– Refinancing: volume & status
– Weakening fundamentals
– Surge in distressed assets
– Valuations & mark-to-market
– Growing pressure to act..
Positives Negatives
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Commercial Leverage: Problems & Implications
• Tightened Credit– Higher DCRs and LVs
– Hard valuations, less financial engineering
– Recourse debt
– Real equity positions
• Outlook for Commercial Debt– Limited supply; flight to quality
– Tighter; increased equity and recourse
• Refinancing Crisis– No obvious sources of debt
– Banks struggling with carry-over problems
– No CMBS resurgence
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Bid/Ask Spread: Trends and Value Pressures
• Bid/Ask De-Compression– Distressed Sellers will have to act– Distressed Assets will face melt-down risks
• Mark-to-Market Accounts– NCREIF - 35% w/o Distressed Sales– Going Forward: Three Strikes
• Comps Down as Assets Dumped• NOI Erosion, Vacancy & Rents• Debt & Equity Yields Up
• Appraisals under increasing scrutiny
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Distressed Asset Recovery by Source & Terms
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• REITs– Have reversed downward spiral– Significant new capital raised through Sept 2009– Low Dividends suggest accretive opportunities
• Global Investors– Western European– Middle East– Asia/Australia
• Domestic Funds– Significant growth in US– New Opportunity Funds– New Value-Plus Funds
Players in Distressed Asset Market
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REITs: Back to the Future?
• Changing Game?– Through June, raised
$12 billion in stock
– Who? • Office: Boston Properties,
Vornado Realty Trust
• Retail: Regency Centers, Simon Property Group
• Challenges– Existing Leverage
– Eroding Fundamentals
– Falling Property Values
Accretive? Buy at 8-10,
payout 4-6
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REIT Snapshot
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REIT Stock Prices: Retail and Office
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Apartment, Hotel and Diversified REITs
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Part III Summary: Real Estate Capital Markets
Macro-economic Environment
• Economy showing some signs of turning
• Businesses struggling, credit tight
• Consumers bearish
Real Estate Capital Market
• Still shut down; some activity increasing
• Rising Cap rates, tighter credit, picky sources
• Major challenge in de-levering
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Part IV: Spatial Market
• Components of Spatial Market– Demand
– SupplyMarket Balance
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Commercial Market Fundamentals
Downtown Office
Suburban Office
Industrial
Apartments
Source: Torto Wheaton Research, REIS, 2009 Emerging TrendsSource: Torto Wheaton Research, REIS, 2009 Emerging Trends
Retail
Vacancy Rates
Office
Industrial
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Development (msf)
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NCREIF Property Type Return Overview
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Risk/Return by Property Type by Regime
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Office Real Estate
• Overview– Corporations giving back space
– Sublease activity increasing
– Vacancy rates rising
– Rents softening
– Credit will be tightening
– Construction declining
• Areas of Concern– Speculative projects
– Commodity product
– Capital Needs: Cap X, TI’s
– Second and third tier markets
– Emerging sub-markets
• Opportunities– Abandoned Projects
– Entitled Projects
– Capital Needs Projects
– Asset Takeovers
– Distressed Owners/REO
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• Overview– Retail sales tepid
– Inventories will be lean
– Credit tight, local and regional players
– Retailer contraction; unit profitability
– Defensive capital to protect markets
• Areas of Concern– New unproven & unopened stores
– Underperforming existing units
– Unanchored Life-style centers
– Tenant Bankruptcies
– Mixed-use in marginal markets
– Niche Oversaturation
Retail Real Estate
• Opportunities– Projects with Lost Anchors
• Entitled/Spec Projects
• Capital Needs Projects
• Asset Takeovers
• Distressed Owners & REO
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• Overview– Absorption slowing
– Rents softening
– Construction moderating
– Changing Logistics Models
– Globalization
• Areas of Concern– Overbuilt markets
– Functionally obsolescence
– Office Showroom/Flex
– Exports in Global Recession
Industrial Real Estate
• Opportunities– Projects w/ Lost Tenants
• Capital Needs Projects
• Changing H&B Use
• Distressed Owners & REO
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• Overview– Modal Shift: Rent vs. Own– Concessions increasing– Absorption slowing– Vacancy rates rising– Rents softening
• Areas of Concern– Homogenized Product– Product Positioning– Re-apartmenting– Density as an End vs. Means– Parking: Shared
Multifamily Real Estate
• Opportunities– Projects in pre-
development
– Entitled but unfunded
– Repositioning
– Conversion (future)
– Distressed Owners & REO
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• Overview– High risk/return profile– Travel down– Companies down-scaling– Occupancy falling– Rates slipping
• Areas of Concern– Homogenized Product– Poor Product Positioning– Hotel/Apartment/Condo Hybrids– Weak flags
Hotels
• Opportunities– Projects in development: not
finished
– Entitled: not started
– Reflagging existing
– Distressed Owners & REO
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Growth in Distressed Assets by Property Type
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What’s Happening on the Distressed RE Front?
Source: Real Capital Analytics
Status and LocationGrowth & Build-up
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Distressed Asset Spillover: Why it Matters
Terminus 200: Cousins
Phipps Tower: Crescent/Manulife
3630 Peachtree: Duke/Pope & Land
Two Alliance Center: Tishman
Bank of America Lead
Regions Lead
Wells Fargo Lead,Regions Follows
Sources: RCA, WSJ 4/21/2009
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Distressed Loan Recovery by Property Type
Office 53%
Industrial 66%
Retail 72%
Hotel 65%
Apartment 63%
Development 32%Land 45%
Overall 60%
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Part IV Summary: The Spatial Markets
Macro-economic Environment
• Economy showing some signs of turning
• Businesses struggling, credit tight
• Consumers bearish
Real Estate Capital Market
• Still shut down; some activity increasing
• Rising Cap rates, tighter credit, picky sources
• Major challenge in de-levering
Spatial Market
• Fundamentals continue to erode lagging economy
• Vacancy rates rising, rents falling
• Stagnant demand, leasing sluggish
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Total Returns: Seattle vs. US
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How Seattle Cap Rates Compare to US?
Not as different as we thought
Challenge:Remove Volatility
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Seattle Institutional Returns by Property Type
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What’s Happening in Seattle? What’s it all About?
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Seattle Real Estate Fundamentals: Yay/Nay?
Seattle MAI Respondents
StatementStrongly Agree Agree Neither Disagree
Strongly Disagree
Opportunistic $'s Target Seattle 13% 42% 24% 20% 0%Distressed Assets flood SEA 4% 53% 18% 24% 0%Cap Flows Stagnant 2% 66% 23% 9% 0%Comm'l Debt Plentiful 0% 0% 17% 69% 14%Transactions picking up 0% 21% 37% 42% 0%Values fall 15-20% 5% 41% 20% 30% 5%Negative talk on SEA hype 0% 9% 23% 50% 18%Leasing picking up 0% 16% 26% 49% 9%Owners will walk 5% 50% 30% 16% 0%Condo bottom mid-2010 0% 25% 20% 52% 2%
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Additional Insights on Seattle Market
Seattle MAI Respondents
StatementStrongly Agree Agree Neither Disagree
Strongly Disagree
Vacancy dramatically increasing 2% 35% 33% 28% 2%Developers on sidelines 11% 67% 9% 13% 0%Tenants rule 'til 2011 9% 74% 11% 7% 0%Opp Funds snapping assets 0% 34% 36% 27% 2%Local market on par with US 0% 61% 14% 25% 0%Values fall 15-20%` 2% 44% 20% 29% 4%Housing crisis ends mid-2010 0% 41% 20% 39% 0%Fundamentals are ok; just hype 2% 11% 20% 61% 5%Vacancy rate records possible 7% 43% 22% 24% 4%We'll avoid the national downturn 0% 9% 11% 66% 14%
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Seattle Market Risks: Significant/Not
Seattle MAI Respondents
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Issues and Risks in Seattle
Seattle MAI Respondents
Issues
Risks
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Part V. “Real” Opportunities in Seattle RE
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• Players– Emergence of new players will create further problems
– Many naïve buyers will clog up the system
– Intermediaries will raise capital but struggle to deploy
– Infrastructure not in place to deal with sheer volume of deals
• New Funds– Expect a spate of new funds, some with experience others not
– Closed-end fund structures will be popular
– Off-shore investors will be a major target for money managers
• Products– A spate of new products will be introduced to lay off risk
– New Partnership arrangements will match expertise with capital
Other Challenges: Players and Products
Seattle MAI Respondents
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• Personal– Showing value of services
– Survival
– Low fees and lower respect
• Valuation– Determining market value
– Determining when distressed prices are the market
– Confirming details of all transactions
– Staying on top of market and explaining it
– Dealing with diverse leases and transactions
Challenges to Appraisers
Seattle MAI Respondents
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• So, To Walk, To Talk, To Walk the Talk???That is the question….– There is no one answer….
– Critical thinking and survival instincts will rule…
– If not, there’s always school….
• Back to the Future…..
Conclusion: What to do? Back to School?
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