win madigan – western english language school - 2007 education in victoria the bridge
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Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007
Education in Victoria
The Bridge
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A bridge takes you from where you are now to
where you want to be.
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This is the school path for most
students who grow up in Victoria.
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Start Primary School
Grade 6 – Age 11
Grade 5 - Age 10
Grade 4 – Age 9
Grade 3 – Age 8
Grade 2 – Age 7
Grade 1 – Age 6
Prep – Age 5
In English
Finish Primary School
Win Madigan – Western English Language School - 2007Start Secondary / High School
Year 12
Year 11
Year 10
Year 9
Year 8
Year 7
In English
Finish Secondary College/High School
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So, Prep to Year 12 for most students who grow up in Australia looks like this:
Year 12
Year 11
Year 10
Year 9
Year 8
Year 7
Year 6
Year 5
Year 4
Year 3
Year 2
Year 1
Prep
Start
Finish
In English
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For some people who have not grown up in Australia the path is
different.
Maybe it’s like this:
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Start Primary School
Grade 3 – Age 8
Grade 2 – Age 7
Grade 1 – Age 6
Prep – Age 5
Finish School
Not in English
Problems in Your Country
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Or
Maybe it’s like this:
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Year 10Year 9Year 8Year 7Year 6Year 5Year 4Year 3Year 2Year 1Prep
In a Refugee Camp
In big classes
With very few books and other resources
Not in English
Often disrupted because of problems
Or very little English
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Or perhaps
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Year 5
Year 4
Year 3
Year 2
Year 1
Start School
Not in English
Or very little English
Stop studying for 6 months
Stop studying for 9 months
Stop studying for 4 months
Stop studying
Stop studying for 2 months
Finish School
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Or
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Come to Australia for family re-union or on a Business Migration Visa
Year 11Year 10Year 9Year 8Year 7Year 6Year 5Year 4Year 3Year 2Year 1Prep
Not in English
In your country
Come to Australia
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Let’s Compare
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Start
Finish
In English
Year 12Year 11Year 10Year 9Year 8Year 7Year 6Year 5Year 4Year 3Year 2Year 1Prep
17 Year old Student Growing up in Australia
17 Year old Student with Disrupted Schooling and
New to Australia
Grade 3 – Age 8
Grade 2 – Age 7
Grade 1 – Age 6
Prep – Age 5 Start
Finish
What if this studentWants to Study at
High School?
Not in English
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Start
Finish
Year 12Year 11Year 10Year 9Year 8Year 7Year 6Year 5Year 4Year 3Year 2Year 1Prep
17 Year old Student Growing up in Australia
17 Year old Student with Disrupted Schooling and
New to Australia
Grade 3 – Age 8Grade 2 – Age 7Grade 1 – Age 6
Prep – Age 5
Start
Finish
This is a very big step.
Like climbing a mountain
???
Or maybe
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What’s the Answer???
How can you catch up if you have missed a lot
of school?
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A BRIDGE is needed tohelp you go from where
you are now to where you
want to be.
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Some high schools have BRIDGING COURSES which help students improve their
English and Math skills.
You should study in such courses for at least one year.
– e.g. Sunshine College- Step-up Program
Debney Park SC – Foundation VCAL
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If you are an older student who wants to study in High School and then do VCE (Years 11 and
12) you may have to repeat Year 10.
Even after that, VCE may be too difficult.
If you want to succeed, you will need to
repeat Year 10
I understand.
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Some schools also offer 3 Year VCE (Years 11 and 12). This is a very good way for
some students to complete their VCE.
What about a 3 year VCE. Do you think I could try
that?Yes, we can think about that
too. Or maybe you can do someYear 10 subjects and one or
two year 11 subjects.
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Many Secondary Colleges do NOT accept 17 year old students into Year 10.
I want to study Year 10 at your High
School
How old are you?
I’m 17
At this school we donot enrol 17 year
olds in Year 10. You will have more
success at TAFE.
Therefore, don’t be surprised or upset if the person helping you to find a school tells you that the High School you want to go to has said ‘No’.
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After Year 10 the school may suggest that you do VCAL, not VCE.
Listen to your teachers.
VCE is not the right course for everyone.
VCAL means VICTORIAN CERTIFICATE OF APPLIED LEARNING.
It helps students study for many of the practical and important jobs that Australia
needs people for.
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TAFE has many suitable programs for older students – i.e. for ages 16,
17 or 18.
TAFE means TECHNICAL AND FURTHER EDUCATION.
For older students with disrupted schooling, TAFE is
often better.
First, the TAFE course will help improve your English skills. For example, ESL Certificates 1, 2, 3
and 4.
After that, there are many different
courses you can do.
There are more choices and more opportunities to succeed at TAFE.
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If you are an older student who has come to Australia recently to
join your family,
ORif you are an older student who has come to Australia
on a Business Visa (e.g. 457 Visa),
TAFE is often better, especially if you don’t have very good English.
457
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Okay, so maybe you have a problem with
TAFE!!
Let’s look at some of these problems.
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Question 1:
Is TAFE only for old people?
Answer:
No, many students start TAFE at 16 or
17.
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Can I study VCE (Years 11 and 12) at TAFE?
Question 2:
Answer:
Yes you can.
And VCAL too.
VCE
Did you know that you canstudy VCE more cheaply at TAFE
than you can at a High School?
TAFE
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I want to wear a uniform. Do students wear a uniform at TAFE?
Question 3:
Answer:
There is no uniform at TAFE. You need to forget about uniform and think about your REAL education and your FUTURE.
SORRY!!!
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Question 4:Is it true that TAFE is just a place to find you a job? My friends say it’s not a
real school.
TAFE
Answer:
NO, that’s not true. TAFE is a real school just like High School or University. It
teaches many different things,
as well as training you for a good job.
TAFE
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Did you know that many students who study at University in Australia
cannot find jobs after they graduate?
It’s true!
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Question 5:
Can I still go to University one day if I start at TAFE?
Answer:
Yes you can.
And you can also get CREDITS for what you have
studied at TAFE.
It’s often easier to get into a
University from a TAFE course than it is from a High
School.
TAFE University
Did you know that Victoria Universityis a TAFE and a University?
IT IS!!
Also, did you know that you can transfer from TAFE to many University courses without an ‘enter’ score?
You can!
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Question 6:
I have heard that TAFE is expensive. Is this
true?
Answer:
Some courses are expensive, BUT, if you have a HEALTH CARE CARD, there are many
courses which are NOT EXPENSIVE.
Even if you don’t have a Health Care Card, there
are often ways of studying English and
other courses cheaply at TAFE. For example, ‘fee waivers’. Ask those who are helping you to enrol
at TAFE about ‘fee waivers’.
And don’t forget University is REALLY EXPENSIVE!!!
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Also, think about this:
Do you REALLY want to sit in a High School classroom with students who are MUCH younger than you – students
who may behave in a really silly and childish way???
I can’t get my work donewith all these silly youngstudents in the class!!!
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Think about it.
Ask yourself
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Do I want to climb the mountain?
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Or will I use the BRIDGE???
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GOOD
LUCK!!!
Think about it!
It’s up to you!!
and