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What is the best surrogate marker

for adequate volemic ressuscitation?for adequate volemic ressuscitation?

Porto, 2010

Maizel Julien

Medical ICU, Amiens, France

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Right ventricule

Left ventricule

Absolute hypovolemia Relative hypovolemia

Always decreased preload and stroke volume

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Septic shock

Septic shock = relative hypovolemia

≠ absolute hypovolemia

Always LV preload and stroke volume decreased

Volume expension

Always LV preload and stroke volume decreased

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When do i stop volume

resuscitation?resuscitation?

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SSC, CCM 2008

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Volemia

Fluid responsiveness

Does volume expension will provoke an increase of stroke volume ?

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How to explore fluid

responsiveness?

• Clinical findings

• Biology• Biology

• Echocardiography•Static parameters•Dynamic parameters

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Clinical findings

YesConscious patient: tachycardia, postural dizziness (tilt), Hypotension + clinical context (trauma, blood loss)

Mc Gee, JAMA 1999

NoPatient intubatedProbability of 50% to predict fluid responsiveness based on clinical and static preload parametersHypoprotidemia, hepatopathy, right heart failure.

Teboul, Chest 2000

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CHEST 2002, 121:2000CHEST 2002, 121:2000--8 8

R / NRR / NR R R (%)(%)

Calvin Calvin (Surgery 81)(Surgery 81) 20 / 820 / 8 71 71 %%Schneider Schneider (Am Heart J 88)(Am Heart J 88) 13 / 513 / 5 72 72 %%ReuseReuse (Chest 90)(Chest 90) 26 / 1526 / 15 63 63 %%Magder Magder (J Crit Care 92)(J Crit Care 92) 17 / 1617 / 16 52 52 %%

MeanMean 211 / 195211 / 195 52 52 %%

Magder Magder (J Crit Care 92)(J Crit Care 92) 17 / 1617 / 16 52 52 %%Diebel Diebel (Arch Surgery 92)(Arch Surgery 92) 13 / 913 / 9 59 59 %%Diebel Diebel (J Trauma 94)(J Trauma 94) 26 / 3926 / 39 40 40 %%Wagner Wagner (Chest 98)(Chest 98) 20 / 1620 / 16 56 56 %%Tavernier Tavernier (Anesthesio 98)(Anesthesio 98) 21 / 1421 / 14 60 60 %%Magder Magder (J Crit Care 99)(J Crit Care 99) 13 / 1613 / 16 45 45 %%Tousignant Tousignant (A Analg 00)(A Analg 00) 16 / 2416 / 24 40 40 %%Michard Michard (AJRCCM 00)(AJRCCM 00) 16 / 2416 / 24 40 40 %%Feissel Feissel (Chest 01)(Chest 01) 10 / 910 / 9 53 53 %%

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Chakko S, Am J Med 1991

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Biology

Renal functionHaemoglobinProtidemiaHaematocrite

Poor diagnostic value

Haematocrite

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Anguel, ICM 2008

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Before weaningPAOP 14

Spontaneous breathing trialPAOP 24

H+1 after reventilationPAOP 12

Protidemia 58 Protidemia 66 Protidemia 60

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Biology

Renal functionHaemoglobinProtidemiaHaematocrite

Poor diagnostic value

BNP ?

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Pirrachio, CCM 2008

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Pirrachio, CCM 2008

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Clinical + Bio + Radio

Fluid responsiveness ?

Uncertain

Hemodynamic parameter

Certain

Fluid challengeVolume expension

Improvement WorsenedNo effect

Evaluation

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Predictive factors of fluid

responsiveness

Static parameterMeasured under a single ventricular loading condition

Dynamic parameterTry to detect a stroke volume variation under two different ventricular loading condition

Presumed to reliably estimate the preload

Assuming that lower preload increases the probability of FR

variation under two different preload condition.

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Stroke volumeStroke volume

PreloadPreload unresponsivenessunresponsiveness

PreloadPreload responsivenessresponsiveness

VentricularVentricular preloadpreload

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CVPCVPCVPCVP

Michard et al. Predicting fluid responsiveness in ICU patients. Chest 2002; 121: 2000Michard et al. Predicting fluid responsiveness in ICU patients. Chest 2002; 121: 2000--88

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Michard et al. Predicting fluid responsiveness in ICU patients. Chest 2002; 121: 2000Michard et al. Predicting fluid responsiveness in ICU patients. Chest 2002; 121: 2000--88

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1212

1414

1616

LVEDALVEDABefore volume expensionBefore volume expension

LVEDALVEDA

44

66

88

1010

1212

répondeursrépondeurs non répondeursnon répondeurs

(cm(cm22/m/m22))

Feissel M et coll, Chest 2001

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NormalNormal

PreloadPreload--responsivenessresponsiveness

SVSV

Why static parameters are not predictive of fluid responsiveness?

PreloadPreload--unresponsivenessunresponsiveness

VentricularVentricular preloadpreload

Heart failure

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Stroke volumeStroke volume

Dynamic parameters

VentricularVentricular preloadpreload

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InsuflationInsuflation

Mechanical ventilationMechanical ventilation

Intrathoracic pressureIntrathoracic pressure

?

SVC collapsibility IVC Distensibility

?

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SVC

Vieillard Baron ICM 2005

(VCImax – VCImin) / VCImin

>36%

IVC

Vieillard Baron ICM 2005

Feissel CCM2005

(VCImax – VCImin) / VCImin

>18%

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InsuflationInsuflation RV preloadRV preload

RV EjectionRV Ejection

Mechanical ventilationMechanical ventilation

RV EjectionRV Ejection

LV LV preloadpreload

2 to 3 cardiac cycles later2 to 3 cardiac cycles later

PulmonaryPulmonary transittransitinspirationinspiration

SedatedAdapted to ventilatorSinusalVt>7ml/KgSta > 0.15m/sec

Stroke volume variation ?

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(PPmax – PPmin) / PPmean >12%

Michard AJRCCM 200

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Après remplissage vasculaire

Avant remplissage vasculaire

DAM = 3.92 L/min

DAM = 2.30

30 L/min

30 L/min

1 sec

Oesophageal Doppler

Plethysmography

L/min∆DAM = 13%

L/min∆DAM = 39%

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A

(Max – Min) / Mean > 12% (Vmax Ao) and > 20% (VTI Ao)

B

Slama AJPHCP 2002Feissel Chest 2001

(Max – Min) / Mean > 12% (Vmax Ao) and > 20% (VTI Ao)

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Spontaneous breathing

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InsuflationInsuflation RV preloadRV preload

RV EjectionRV EjectionRV EjectionRV Ejection

LV LV preloadpreload

2 to 3 cardiac cycles later2 to 3 cardiac cycles later

PulmonaryPulmonary transittransitinspirationinspiration

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(Max – Min) / Mean ≥ 50% predict a RAP <10mmHg

Kircher Am J Cardio, 1990

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Lever de jambe passif

Maizel, ICM 2007

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•Dynamic > static

Conclusion

•Dynamic > static

•Non invasive > invasive

•Feasibility