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What Are The Chances That Climate Change Is"Natural"?April 14, 2014 | by Justine Alford
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A new study which statistically analyzed temperature data over the pre-industrial period and
the industrial period has rejected the hypothesis that global warming is due to natural
variability at confidence levels greater than 99%. The results have been published in the
journal Climate Dynamics.
Although there is a large body of evidence to suggest that current global warming is largely
due to human activities, much of this has relied on models called general circulation models
(GCMs). GCMs are computer-driven models that are key components of global climate
models, which as the name suggests are used for modeling climate. Although they are
useful tools, some are skeptical as to whether they can really infer connections between
anthropogenic factors and global warming. This, coupled with the fact that there has been a
tendency to over-rely on them when making assertions, has created a need for empirically
based methodologies to complement the GCMs.
Professor Shaun Lovejoy from the McGill University used data from the (mostly) pre-
industrial period (1500-1900) and the industrial period (1880-2000), and calculated the
probability that global warming since 1880 is due to natural temperature fluctuations, rather
than man-made emissions, using statistical analysis.
In order to assess natural variation in climate prior to the industrial period, Lovejoy used
both fluctuation-analysis techniques which allow an understanding of temperature variations
over different time scales, and multi-proxy climate reconstructions. These reconstructions
make use of data derived from sources such as tree rings and ice cores.
To do the same for the industrial period, he used CO production from fossil fuel burning as
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a broad surrogate for all anthropogenic (man-made) forcings. He claimed that this is
justified because of the relationship between the emission of greenhouse gases and
particulate pollution with global economic activity.
The conclusion drawn from the data was clear- he rejected the natural variability hypothesis
with confidence levels of over 99%. It is necessary to understand that rejecting one
hypothesis does not prove another- his data therefore does not prove that global warming
has an anthropogenic causation. However, the results do enhance the credibility of this
ulterior hypothesis.
It is also very important to point out that the confidence levels are likely to be exaggerated
since the data used for the pre-industrial era cannot be 100% certain as measurements
were taken in an indirect manner, since temperature data was not recorded 500 years ago.
Therefore there is a degree of uncertainly in this data, which would inherently affect the
statistical confidence. However, this does not mean that his overall conclusion is invalid, and
this still remains an important study.
The data generated by the study also allowed Lovejoy to make predictions like those
recently published by the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The IPCC predict
that if atmospheric CO levels double, the climate will increase by between 1.9-4.2 C.
Lovejoy’s data complemented this with predictions of temperature rises between 1.5-4.5 C.
While this is just one study, it does add to the ever growing body of evidence that the global
warming we are experiencing cannot solely be attributed to natural fluctuations in
temperatures.
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Jai Waddell • 3 hours ago −Climate change would have occurred had we not crawled out of the primordial
ooze, however it would happen at the time or speed it is happening now. We are
affecting the climate and there are very few if any self-respecting scientists who
would deny this out-right. The one point about it that annoys me is that people say
we are killing the Earth. We're not, we are making humans ability to live on the
planet lower and therefore likely killing our own race. The earth will survive and
there will likely be other forms of life that populate the world when we are gone.
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there will likely be other forms of life that populate the world when we are gone.
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Kota • 3 hours ago Jai Waddell
I agree completely.
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Steven Sullivan • 26 minutes ago Jai Waddell
You're missing a 'not' there in that first sentence: it would *not* happen at
the same time or speed....
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Alan Bean • an hour ago Jai Waddell
Whether or not it is manmade is irrelevant. The issue is that it is already a
problem, and if we want to find some way of surviving on Earth for much
longer, we had best get to solving it.
Also, fun fact about greenhouse gasses: the biggest one IS NOT CO2, it's
H2O.
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Jeremy • 44 minutes ago Alan Bean
Therefore it is not irrelevant. How are we to solve a problem we do
not know the cause of.
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Steven Sullivan • 23 minutes ago Alan Bean
So what? Water vapor is the greenhouse gas that makes the
atmosphere most sensitive *to C02*. It is an amplifier of C02's
effect.
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Adrian Strzelczyk • 6 minutes ago Jai Waddell
To quote George Carlin: "The planet is fine. The people are fucked".
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Sam Coyne • 30 minutes ago Jai Waddell
How the hell are we not killing the Earth? There is a mountain of plastic in
the Pacific Ocean. We have lists of 5-6 species a year that are confirmed
to be extinct. I'm in Michigan right now, and we just had a week of 70
degree weather followed by snowstorms. In mid April. There is a difference
between natural shifts in climate and downright decimation of the climate.
That kind of shift in weather, as well as the various other off-the-charts shit
going on, would NEVER have occurred through a natural process. You sir,
are betting on that 1% opposition I think.
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Brandon • an hour ago Jai Waddell
Yeah, but.. we are 'actively' wiping out entire populations of other living
creatures besides just humans.. which makes the Earth more Dead
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Notorious_bob • 3 hours ago
not to be all "scientist" on you but do you have 100-400 years of statistics PRIOR
to the industrial revolution, or are we just going to speculate coincidence?
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Moonkae • 3 hours ago Notorious_bob
"do you have 100-400 years of statistics PRIOR to the industrial revolution"
Yes, ice cores are mentioned and we can certainly speculate with
reasonable accuracy (based on evidence) what the climate was like
hundreds, thousands, even hundreds of thousands of years ago. Ice cores
are only one example of extrapolating climate data and I'm sure there are
dozens of other methods (tree ring analysis being another).
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David A Simpson • 2 hours ago Moonkae
Do you have ANY clue what the resolution of ice core data is? They
can tell one century from another most of the time. They cannot tell
one decade from another with confidence. Two ice cores from a
mile apart will give you a very different "history". Correlating
(averaging) across a number of cores reduces your confidence by
the standard deviation of the data. The "climate community" has
agreed to ignore all of these pesky details and has published an
"official" dataset of the pre-history temperature data. It is an
average of averages with a LOT of barely justifiable assumptions
that altogether results in a confidence level under 70% when looked
at with rigorous statistical methods..
So if the data has a confidence level of 65%, then it is simply
irresponsible to claim that using this data provides a 99%
confidence level--your combined confidence will never be greater
than the product of the confidence level of the underlying data,
unless you are a "confidence man".
The tree ring data is slightly better from sample to sample, but still
doesn't distinguish between, temperature, rainfall, and non-climate
events (e.g. bug infestation, fires destroying trees that are shading
the tree being cored, etc.).
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Jack Ebersole • 2 hours ago David A Simpson
Actually, ice cores are extremely precise from location to
location in terms of gas concentration because
atmospheric gas is evenly concentrated. You don't look at
the average of all ice cores, you look at the relationships
between data of cores taken at different locations. CO2 will
be a little higher in Greenland than Antarctica, but they show
the same rate of change.
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Calvin Armstrong • 2 hours ago David A Simpson
Maybe you could enlighten us with peer reviewed papers on
the matter of ice cores
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Wiz of Oz • 16 minutes ago Calvin Armstrong
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/c...
"±2 years"
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CB • 2 hours ago David A Simpson
I've heard that modern sclero-chronology techniques (think
tree rings, but in mollusk shells) allow investigators to see
seasonal fluctuations. There are clearly a lot of factors that
influence local isotope concentrations, but the data still
provides insight into temperature fluctuations.
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Michael McDowell • an hour ago CB
That's an interesting subject matter, I'll have to look into it to
see if there is any truth to that suggestion.
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jnojr • 3 hours ago Moonkae
So, if we KNOW that there were periods that were much cooler or
warmer today… how is it that a slight change in mean temps in a
statistically insignificant period of time "prove" that humans are
causing global warming?
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Luca Amerio • 3 hours ago jnojr
3 words: rate of change
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el duderino • 3 hours ago Luca Amerio
... has been fluctuating ever since earth became.
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haydesigner • 3 hours ago el duderino
… but not to this degree.
Seriously, you deniers have NOTHING to support your
claims.
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Jeddy B Wilkinson Jr • 2 hours ago haydesigner
I'm not a denyer, but I'm also not fully convinced either. I do
however prefer to err on the side of not destroying the
environment as opposed to uncontrolled industrial
expansion. But I'm not comfortable with how much the
AGW movement has become a religion, including decrying
anyone who questions it in any manner to any degree as a
heretic.
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Josh Rogers • 31 minutes ago Jeddy B Wilkinson Jr
Exactly!
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Ryan • 6 minutes ago Jeddy B Wilkinson Jr
James Lovelock, who is the author of "Gaia's Revenge", in
a recent interview with the BBC, actually said something
similar. He thinks that climate science has become to
politicized and referred to it as a religion. He considers
himself as an "old school green."
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Joel Jenkins • 2 hours ago haydesigner
Maybe us deniers just don't like the politicization of the
issue where it has become heresy to even ask questions
about it. Maybe we just want to make sure we are getting
the full scope, and the scientific methods being used are
legitimate without an individuals opinion dictating the
interpretation of the evidence. You know, the actual
scientific method. Even if climate change isn't real, I still
think we need to change our ways, learn to recycle better,
find cleaner energies, stop destroying the forest on a
massive scale, etc etc; but I want the evidence for and
against it to be heard equally instead of the lashing of any
scientist who says his/her evidence doesn't add up to
showing proof of climate change due to human activities.
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Mike Rosenkranz • 2 hours ago haydesigner
There's nothing wrong with skepticism, and I don't see
anybody (here, at least) vehemently denying it. It may very
well be caused by humans, and it seems highly likely, but
that doesn't mean we shouldn't ask how much and how
compelling the evidence is. Climate change has happened
before, and even if it's happening faster than we believe it
has/should, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's our fault.
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skullnbones • 2 hours ago haydesigner
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skullnbones • 2 hours ago haydesigner
You have not proven yours. Your religion has been proven
wrong for 10 years now with predictions of "Snow
becoming a Thing of the Past" and all your other bullshit
predictions to promote a carbon tax and tell us what
lightbulbs to use. There hasn't been ANY warming for 18
years so time to shut the hell up. Time to get on with getting
rid of corrupt government and wars based on lies. Time for
the "Too Big to Fail Banks" to be ground down into the dirt
by the 99%.Time to take back our countries. Power to the
people, not the money-junkies.
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Yarrrrrnnnnnnn!! • 3 hours ago Luca Amerio
2 words: Not unprecedented
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Anne Maus • 2 hours ago jnojr
You should read the text before commenting ":It is
necessary to understand that rejecting one hypothesis does
not prove another- his data therefore does not prove that
global warming has an anthropogenic causation."
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FugitiveUnknown • 2 hours ago Anne Maus
Given that he's rejecting the idea that this increase is
natural, actually, that is a pretty good indicator that it is us
doing this.
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Mike B DuBaldi • 2 hours ago jnojr
1. Rate of change, which increases atmospheric CO2
concentrations increase exponentially. Yes, it is true that
there are instances of exponential increase in atmospheric
CO2 that pre-date humans(Permian/Triassic Boundary,
and countless others), however such events coincide with
cataclysmic geological/cosmic events; and by cataclysmic
events I am speaking of bolide impacts, or volcanic
eruptions greater than VEI-7, flood basalts. Fact is the
largest volcanic event in the last 250 yrs was Tambora
which fell on the small side of VEI-7 and its atmospheric
CO2 releases have been long recycled out. Has there been
any super-volcanic eruptions since Industrial rev? No. Have
there been any large Asteroid Impacts? No. So what is the
exact cause of this CO2 spike in the last 100 yrs? We are
running out of natural events to blame.
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basegitar • 42 minutes ago jnojr
Luca is right. Normally these kinds of changes happened
over tens of thousands of years, not 150 years. It also
would be a HUGE coincident if it was by chance that the
Earth happened to warm over the course of 150 years by
the amount one would expect given the amount of CO2 we
know we have put in the atmosphere over the same period
of time.
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Jack Ebersole • 2 hours ago jnojr
Two reasons
The first is rate of change. This is something that happens
over tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years
naturally. To date, it has happened over about 120.
The second is that we're not in the part of the cycle where
we'd be anticipating accelerating warming, we're at the end
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we'd be anticipating accelerating warming, we're at the end
of the end of the ice age and warming should be slowing
down, not speeding up.
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Guest • an hour ago Jack Ebersole
I honestly say it doesn't matter if we are causing climate
change or not (though I know we are). Our pollution is
fucking up so many other things that we will not survive if
we keep this up. Look at the giant island of garbage in the
Pacific, or the massive radiation spill from Fukushima. Look
at the insanely thick air pollution in China. You think this shit
is just going to go away? It is only going to get worse. We
either start dealing with all these problems, or stop
bothering to survive as a species all together.
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Coke • 3 hours ago Notorious_bob
'It is also very important to point out that the confidence levels are likely to
be exaggerated since the data used for the pre-industrial era cannot be
100% certain as measurements were taken in an indirect manner, since
temperature data was not recorded 500 years ago.'
Read the article.
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Notorious_bob • 3 hours ago Coke
i remain in the "it's plausable" camp which is kind of fence sitting
but i have to rely on what my college science education taught me.
I'm not going to go all "tea bagger" about it nor am I going to wave
an Al Gore flag.
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Corelin • 3 hours ago Notorious_bob
Why are we more worried about the cause than if we can
solve the problem?
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Moderate213 • 3 hours ago Corelin
Knowing the cause is a pretty huge part of developing a
solution.
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dont drink the koolaid • 2 hours ago Corelin
What problem?
We are in a discussion about THIS article and there are no
problems referenced here.
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Mike Rosenkranz • 2 hours ago Corelin
Because knowing the cause can help us better understand
how to fix the problem. Treat the disease, not the
symptoms.
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Jason K. • 3 hours ago Notorious_bob
Assuming people who accept anthropogenic global
warming are therefore Al Gore supporters *is* going all Tea
Bagger about it.
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B Wolfe • 3 hours ago Jason K.
Not really.
Anthony Russell Cooke • 3 hours ago Jason K.
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Anthony Russell Cooke • 3 hours ago Jason K.
I think he meant he wasn't going to go to either extreme, not
that everyone who is on one side of the argument is a
particular stereotype.
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Tom • 3 hours ago Notorious_bob
Direct instrumental data such as the CET run back to the
1600s. All other data will have been derived from 'climate
proxies', google them.
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Alex • 3 hours ago Coke
the uncertainty mentioned in the article is the same as the
uncertainty in the measurements Moonkae is talking about. every
measurement has an associated uncertainty derived from a
propagation of error analysis
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Quelthias • 3 hours ago Notorious_bob
Yeah, I'm sure that just never occurred to climate scientists. The funniest
part about the debate are those on the denial side who also believe the
Earth is only about 6000 years old, according to the Bible. No amount of
scientific evidence will convince them that the Earth is any older, so it does
not work trying to talk to them for anything. Just don't allow them into the
science classes, and I won't have an atheist doing the Sunday mass.
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Dustin L. Hopper • 3 hours ago Notorious_bob
Not to be all, you're not a scientist....
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B Wolfe • 3 hours ago Dustin L. Hopper
So, he can't make an opinion? I wish was the case for everything.
The forums, threads, blogs and every opinion about anything and
everything would be nicely silenced.
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whataloadofcompost • 3 hours ago Notorious_bob
What's wrong with being all scientist?
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Sarah Hitterman • 2 hours ago Notorious_bob
Very good sir you nailed it!
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