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LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING

7pm on Monday 18 th of November 2019 at Mere Parish club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) Competition / Trophy Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) not present President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Alderley Union: Not present Mere: Richard Owen (RO), Steven Bloor (SB), Philip Simpson (PS), Allen Jackson (AJ), Ed Wakefield (EW)

& Geoff Jackson (GJ) Mobberley: Tony Crompton (TC) Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall (SM) Tatton: Andy Long (AL) & Steve Power (SP) Wilmslow Cons: Not present

2 - Apologies for absence

Rob Clarke (RC),

3 - Minutes of last meeting

TC had previously circulated copies of the last meeting (league formation) from August 2019 on the league web sites and no matters had been brought to his attention.

Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by SB and Seconded by PS. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.

As previously agreed, hard copies of minutes and agendas will not be available at meetings and attendees are advised to print a copy off from the web site in advance of each meeting if they require them.

4 - Items arising from the last meeting (not agenda listed)

None.

5 - Disciplinary / Matters of Dispute

Wilmslow Cons & Alderley Union to be deducted a point (from each club team) for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.

In the 2 competitions so far, no one has failed to attend.

6 - Items notified to Secretary prior to meeting

Andrew, the great sports writer at the Knutsford Guardian, has left and despite sending articles to his new colleague there has been no take-up on what TC has sent. TC therefore asked whether there was any point in

him doing the week-by-week document as this was the basis of those newspaper articles. After brief debate it was agreed for TC to do monthly updates instead.

7 - Trophies / Competitions Secretary

TC said that there have been no issues of note and competitions are moving along satisfactorily.

The 6 Reds competition was won by Tony Crompton against Bruce Tulley.

The Taylor Jones Legends was won by Arthur Hasford against Mark Murphy yesterday.

8 – Treasurer

DN (not present) reported to TC after the meeting that the current balance in the accounts is around £1,708 with all first quarter payments received.

9 - Any other business

AL clarified with TC that a bye frame in division 1 is 35 points to the attending player plus whatever handicap difference there is between the 2 playing the frame. Team KO is 70-0 and no frame played.

10 Date of next meetings

AGM and prize presentation evening is on Thursday 11th of April at Alderley Union club at 7pm prompt

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Management Meeting rota:

Alderley Union (Monday 9th of March), Shaw Heath, Wilmslow Cons, Mobberley, Mere

AGM rota:

Mere, Mobberley (70th Anniversary), Wilmslow Cons, Shaw Heath, Alderley Union

League Formation Meetings

Will all be held at Mobberley in August each pre-season

Life Members

Currently playing in the league: Rob Clarke / Tony Crompton / Francis Evans / Arthur Hasford / David Nuttall / David Rainford / Philip Simpson / Bruce Tulley / Ed Wakefield

Not currently playing in the league: Ray Dale / Barry Lineham / Brian Mitchell / Geoff Owen / Mervyn Pike / David Potter / David Sykes / Ronnie Tagg / John Thompson / Peter Watson

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE and LEAGUE FORMATION MEETING for the 2019-20 SEASON

Tuesday 13 th of August 2019 at Mobberley Victory Hall

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Competition / Trophy Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Alderley Union: Vinni Rossi (VR) Mere: Geoff Jackson (GJ) Philip Simpson (PS) and Steven Bloor (SB) Mobberley: Tony Crompton (TC) Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall (SM) Tatton: Rob Clarke (RC) Dave Taylor (DT) and Steve Power (SP) Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall (DN) Wilmslow RBL: Not present


Brian Foden Jordan Parker Ashley Parker Andy Long Richard Owen


The Secretary had previously circulated copies of the last meeting (the AGM) to the officers and no matters had been brought to his attention.


4 - Items arising from the last meeting (and not otherwise agenda listed)

None

5 – League reformation section

TC explained that until the conclusion of this meeting, only the elected officers of the league are members of it and that this meeting is (effectively) the league re-formation meeting. TC then asked each club in turn to detail (a) whether they wish to join the league (b) if so, how many teams they would like to be entered in the league for the 2019-20 season and then (c) the captain’s and players details for each team entered.

The Secretary reminded all present that League rule 5.5 states: “The management committee will vote to accept or reject any such teams and names presented and, as those rejected will not be part of the new season’s league and thereby subject to it’s rules, there will be no right to appeal on said decision”.

TC then asked all clubs how many teams they wished to enter the 2019-20 league season:

i. Alderley Union – 1ii. Mere – 3

iii. Mobberley – 4iv. Shaw Heath – 1v. Tatton – 3

vi. Wilmslow Cons – 2vii. Wilmslow RBL – Not known

TC said that with 14 (and a reply awaited from RBL = a possible 15) teams entering the league this season the league format will therefore be 2 divisions; with 8 teams in division 1 and 7 teams plus a bye in division 2; playing each other in four cycles of 7 = 28 match weeks with 4 being bye weeks in division 2.

In the event of RBL not entering, TC will re-write the division 2 fixtures to be no byes and 5 cycles of 5 games with the 1st and second round weeks of the KO cup plus finishing a week earlier than division 1 = 28 weeks. Division 1 will be unchanged for this season.

As previously agreed, division 1 will be handicapped matches that will change up or down by 2 per win / loss whilst division 2 will be scratch matches.

A discussion then took place as to the make-up of the divisions with the following considered:

i. Brook Street A are now renamed Tatton B and Brook Street B are now Tatton C.ii. The additional team entered is from Wilmslow Cons and is ‘strong’.

iii. That new team would be their A team and the majority of the 2018-9 division 2 winning team would be on their B team.

iv. New teams are normally added to division 2.v. However, because of the strength of this new Wilmslow Cons team, an option would be to not promote the

Wilmslow Cons team from 2018-9.vi. That option would still leave a bye week in division 1 and we have always agreed that byes should be

avoided in the highest division.vii. Or we could promote the Wilmslow team and replace the bye week in division 1 with the new Wilmslow

Cons team.viii. That option would mean that only Mere A is relegated and Mere B are not promoted. Tatton A would stay in

division 1. Mere A have no input to this as bottom side but Mere B could argue that the rules at the start of the 201`8-9 season was that 2 teams would be promoted. They have, however, agreed to this.

After brief discussion it was agreed unanimously that division teams would be:

1. Alderley Union; Mobberley A & B; Shaw Heath; Tatton A & B; Wilmslow Cons A & B.2. Mere A, B & C; Mobberley C & D; Tatton C; Wilmslow RBL.

TC then asked teams in turn for their players to be registered if agreed:

Alderley Union – 1 team

1. Vinni Rossi (Captain)2. Arthur Faux3. Peter Burns4. Adam Byrne5. Tony Fielding6. Peter Roff7. Andy Towers8. George Chadwick9. Stuart Jackson10. Colin Brereton11. Dave Herbert

Mere – 3 teams entered

Division 1 – A team

1. Richard Owen (Captain)2. Alex Wright3. Chris Bushell 4. Jack Bushell5. Mark Bushell6. Will Bushell7. Geoff Owen8. James Owen9. Matthew Owen10. Alex Owen11. Roger Mansell

Division 2 – B team

1. Allen Jackson (Captain)2. Dan Jackson

3. David Jackson4. John Jackson 5. Geoff Jackson 6. Peter Jackson7. Tony Jackson8. Tom Jackson9. Eddie Wakefield

Division 2 – C team

1. Philip Simpson (Captain)2. Steven Bloor3. Jamie Flood 4. Joe Gates5. Daniel Pollard6. Sam Riley7. Terry Riley

8. Dave Simcock 9. Arthur Hasford

Mobberley - 4 teams entered


1. Mark Newall (Captain)2. Mike Roylance3. Paul Adkin 4. Steve Flinders 5. Bruce Tulley 6. Jeff Gorton


1. Wayne Hammond (Capt)2. Adam McNeil 3. Bob Spilsbury4. Chris McNeil5. Paul Hodson 6. Tony Crompton7. Mike Gittins8. Paul Royce


1. Ian Paton (Captain)2. John Dale3. Dave Rainford4. Gary Hammond5. Lee Cadman 6. Peter Turner7. Leung Yu8. Josh Street

Division 2 – D team

1. Carl Wetton (Captain)2. Kevin Harrison 3. Herbert Hope 4. Dave Taylor5. Dave Lingard6. Alex Wetton7. Aaron Chaplin8. Alan Williams

Shaw Heath – 1 team

Division 1

1. Scott Marshall (captain)2. Olly Kelly3. John Kettle4. Chris Jackson

5. Sam Jackson6. Mark Jenyons7. Dave Mullins 8. Jamie Way 9. Graham Whalley10. Will Cowley

Tatton – 3 teams


1. Rob Clarke (Captain)2. Dave Blackburn 3. Phil Roden4. Ian Snelson 5. Dave Taylor6. Paul Townsend 7. Peter Cowley8. Drew McAra9. Ron Tagg10. John Peet11. Alan Conkleton12. Nick Walton13. Gordon Roberts14. Keith Roden15. Andy Martin


1. Andy Long (Captain)2. Bob Jones 3. Gary Long4. Mark Murphy 5. Steve Prosser 6. Steve Bond


1. Ashley Parker (Captain)2. Francis Evans 3. Adrian Hough 4. Vic Mullins5. Chris Parker 6. Steve Power 7. Paul Baston8. Ollie Shorley-Smith9. Rick Peers10. Alan Flod11. Carl Prince12. Michael Ford

Wilmslow Cons - 2 teams


1. Mike Sullivan (Captain)2. Jonathan Smith3. Mark Anderson 4. Richard Bayley 5. Will Bell 6. David Slater 7. John Higgins8. Brian Foden9. Andy Stott 10. Sanje Anand11. Eddie Yates


1. Ralph Robertson (Captain)

2. Bill Allen3. Matt Dale4. Peter Hodge5. Alan Potts6. Laughlin Anderson7. David Nuttall 8. Jake O’Neill 9. Peter Stakes 10. Dave Wilkinson 11. Alan Hardy12. Howard Blankley13. Graham Kitson

Wilmslow RBL – no team entered

There were no objections made to any of the above players joining the league for the 2019-20 season.

6 – League structure / admin for the coming season

All games will be on Thursdays except Mere B and C; Mobberley C and D; Tatton C who will play their home games on Tuesdays.

TC said that the fixtures are already entered on the league website and each captain should print a copy of the fixtures for their teams and their club noticeboards.

TC handed out 40 scorecards for each team including some spares / errors – all must be texted, Watts App’d or emailed through immediately after all matches.

The league will, as always, start in the first week of September and end on the 26 th of March 2020 with the AGM on Thursday the 9th of April at 7pm at Mere parish club.


Andy Long (AL) had contacted TC suggesting that we be more flexible with players now that division 1 is handicapped. He suggested (a) players from all clubs can play for any team in any week so longs as they only play once – other than rearranged games (b) division 2 players can play up to fill for division 1 teams using their league competition handicap (c) those division 2 players playing up can only do so a maximum of 3 times in a season – stopping the same players being chosen (d) division 1 players can never play down. After brief debate this was agreed 5 clubs in favour and 2 against.

TC added that the use of players within divisions / teams will be monitored and he trusts all captains to use this flexibility sensibly. Any abuse of it will be brought to the league committee to discuss.


TC listed the players barred from this year’s competitions for failing to appear at matches last season. Any entries received this season from these players will be deleted and not accepted:

i. Steve Bond FTA for the 6 Reds; ii. Arthur Faux FTA for Jay;

With division 1 being league games off scratch, the averages prize for that division will be scrapped and replaced by TWO awards: (1) lowest handicap at the end of the season (if tied then by the old criteria of wins, losses, aggregate) and (2) biggest drop / most improved player from start handicap to end handicap. Division 2 award is unchanged.

With the club down to (at best) 7 clubs and possibly 6; some competitions may be split over 2 weeks.

TC, as always, welcomes other ideas and can be contacted by phone (see the comps sheets) or email.

9 - Treasurer

DN reported that there was nothing else to report beyond his comments at the AGM and that the current league balance is just under £1,230 which he will continue to monitor.

1. DN said that league fee invoices will again be issued 4 times this season and will include Team KO fees once we reach the semi-final stage. He will issue details to all (in the next few days) for when these invoices must be paid by. Those invoices would be then issued to teams 2 weeks before each 7 week period and give teams a further 2 weeks grace to pay after the due date.

2. DN reminded all that this season will repeat the process from last season: any team not paying league fees as invoiced, on time, would be penalised: (a) first offence - 3 point deduction for each offending team (b) second offence in the same season - 5 points deduction from each offending team plus an £18 fine (c) third offence in the same season – 10 points deduction and a £30 fine from each offending team.

Knutsford and District Amateur Snooker League Balance Sheet - Season 2018 - 2019

Income ExpenditureBalance brought forward £1,689.87League fees 2018 -19 £2,016.00 Secretary honorarium £975.00Team KO fees £156.00 Secretary expenses £0.00Unpaid fees from 2018 - 19 season £10.00 Treasurer honorarium £140.00

Treasurer expenses £0.00Competition Secretary honorarium £270.00Competition Secretary expenses £20.00

Web site hosting & nameMisc league running costsLeague web page annual fee £109.20Redwood prize money £80.00Trophies & engraving £500.00Archive maintenance £223.40AGM refreshments and room hire £40.00ScorecardsCharity donations £150.00Finals nights referee's expenses £135.00

Expenditure £2,642.60Bank Balance £1,229.27

Income £3,871.87 Expenditure and Bank balance £3,871.87Balance carried forward to 2019/2020 season: £1,229.27


Clubs informed TC about restrictions on nights available to the league for events – particularly of note for the T&C Secretary:

1. Alderley Union – Not Tuesdays2. Mere – OK with notice3. Mobberley – OK with notice4. Shaw Heath – OK with notice 5. Tatton – Only Tuesdays or Thursdays (if no match on)6. Wilmslow Cons – Not Tuesdays7. Wilmslow RBL – Available on some Tuesdays (check first)

The e-mail addresses for the league (and Secretary): [email protected] plus the current league website address of www.kadasl.com and the league website address www.leaguesnooker.co.uk will remain on the minutes of each meeting as an easy reference point for all.

TC is likely to be moving to Devon and after brief discussion no one had any objections to him continuing as Secretary for the meantime.

Mike Roylance informed all of his 12 hour snookerthon to raise funds for a sick child at Mobberley from 9am to 9pm on Saturday 24th of August. Anyone interested in sponsoring / playing him to contact MR direct.

11 - Date of next meeting

League Management Meeting – Monday 18th November - 7pm at Mere

League Management Meeting – Monday 9th March - 7pm at Alderley Union

2019/20 AGM & Presentation Night – 7pm Thursday 9th of April 2020 at Mere

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Knutsford & District Amateur Snooker League 2018-9 AGM

Alderley Union club 7pm 11 th of April 2019

Meeting opened: 7.00pm Meeting closed: 7.30pm

Attendance: (35 listed):

President - Geoff Jackson (GJ – present); Chair – Steve Power (SP - present); Secretary – Tony Crompton (TC - present); Treasurer – Dave Nuttall (DN – present) Trophy & Competitions Secretary – Tony Crompton (TC - present).

Alderley Union (4) – George Chadwick, Vinni Rossi, Arthur Faux and Brian Foden

Brook Street (6) – Steve Power, Martin Sharpe, Steve Prosser, Bob Jones, Adrian Hough and Andy Long.

Mere (8) – Geoff Jackson, Steve Bloor, Philip Simpson, Alec Wright, Dan Jackson, Peter Jackson, Allen Jackson and Richard Owen.

Mobberley (8) – Tony Crompton, Mike Roylance, Mark Newall, Steve Flinders, Paul Adkin, Bruce Tulley, Ian Paton and Gary Hammond.

Shaw Heath (2) – Dave Mullins and Scott Marshall.

Tatton (2) – Rob Clarke and David Taylor.

Wilmslow Cons (7) Dave Nuttall, Dave Wilkinson, Mark Anderson, Matt Dale, Richard Bayley, Bill Allen and Ralph Robertson.

Wilmslow RBL (0) - None present

1 Opening remarks by the Chair (SP)

SP opened the meeting and invited GJ to say a few words.

2 Opening remarks by the President (GJ)

“It gives me much pleasure, as President of the League, to once again welcome you all to this AGM and prize presentation evening. As always, I will keep my opening remarks brief so I’ll finish by personally thanking the other officers, particularly Tony and Dave, for their work once again. Thank you and enjoy the evening”.

3 Apologies for absence (TC)

The Secretary ensured that all present (to vote) are listed on the attendance sheet, are members of the league and accepted apologies for those absent. Apologies received from (6):

Steve Bond Darren Taylor Gary Long Dave Rainford Ashley Parker Tony Jackson

TC had contacted all league contacts in his fone earlier in the day to notify them of the sudden passing of Mobberley C team captain Derek Street yesterday and to hold a quiet moment in their own way in respect of his passing. TC will circulate funeral details when they are known.

4 Minutes of the previous AGM (TC)

The Secretary stated that the minutes from the last AGM were placed on the league website within a few days of the meeting for all to access and they were also discussed at the first league management committee meeting after the AGM – the league formation meeting in August 2018.

At that meeting, the AGM minutes were accepted as a true and accurate account of the AGM, by those present, and any matters arising were dealt with at that meeting. It has been agreed for many seasons now that the Secretary would not produce hard copies of minutes at either AGM’s or Management Meetings as they are always available on the league web site the day after each meeting for anyone to print off, access or read.

5 Any matters arising from the minutes of the previous AGM (TC)

None.

6 Report by Chair (SP)

I'd like to personally thank everyone for attending tonight and to congratulate, in advance, all those who have contributed to the season in any way, especially the winners.

For the officers of the league, as ever, it’s been another busy one. I would personally like to thank all the other officers for their efforts. The amount of work that they do on behalf of the league is significantly greater than anything I have to do. Thanks must go to Tony in particular and Dave. Tony’s commitment to this league as a player is without question but his role as secretary is fundamental to sustaining the league. Also thanks to Dave for his efficient work as treasurer and to Tony for running the competitions so smoothly and arranging all the trophies for tonight.

We are now down to just 14 teams so next season will again present some real challenges for the league and I’m sure the August league formation meeting will deal efficiently as ever with them. Thanks to all the players in the entire league and competition sections and thanks for turning out tonight.

A few words of caution though now – even though we have a rich history we need to realise the challenges we face going forward and remember that the most important time for us is always the current season or the next. If that season fails then all the history counts for nothing. We need to do everything we can for the greater good of the league. I know Tony has consistently raised his concerns about where the next generation of player is coming from and you all need to give that some thought. How do we sustain the league for the next ten years and onwards? Inaction is not an option.

Thank you, Steve Power

7 Report by Treasurer (DN)

Income has stabilised this year and as always is helped again by our Secretary purchasing some inexpensive, but quality, trophies from a source he found for us a few of seasons ago.

May I offer a big thank you to all those who paid their league fees on time as this does make my job so much easier and the addition of the Team KO competition fees to the quarterly league fee invoices worked far better than I thought it would! A screenshot of our current balance will be pasted into the minutes of this meeting by the Secretary.

Expenditure has been typical and we will be carrying forward a very positive balance of around £1,200 to next year (once all payments are in!) and if anyone has any questions regarding the balance sheet I will be happy to take them now. Regards, Dave Nuttall

8 Report by Secretary (TC)

It is now 18 (I think) season’s since I was elected as League Secretary and there is now a need for format change. Next season, the league will have handicaps in division one and be off scratch in division two. Each match week in division 1, if you win you will go down 2 points and if you lose you’ll go up 2. We’re trialling it for a season in the hope of retaining the existing team numbers and maybe increasing them.

All in all I’ve had a pretty good year as Secretary and you all know what’s coming next but I’m still going to say it – thanks to the other officers who help me run this great league; thanks to the clubs for staying part of it; and mainly a massive thanks to all of the teams, players and especially the captains for entering and competing so fairly in a sociable atmosphere.

That concludes my report. Thank you all. Tony Crompton.

9 Report by Trophy / Competitions Secretary (TC)

TC reported that he took over the role once again after the sudden resignation of DN early into the season.

TC continued: With the slimming down of the competitions list we felt that the personal achievements of players were sometimes getting lost in amongst the team achievements, so tonight the trophy presentations will be done by competition.

Finally, all league trophies are to be returned polished to Mobberley by February at the latest without fail. Many weren’t and some were in a right mess which is disrespectful to all concerned. If you’re not going to display and care for them, leave them here and I’ll take them back to Mobberley and display them. Thank you.

10 Chairperson to propose Honoraria

SP said that the officers Honoraria was agreed at the last AGM: Secretary £975, Trophy / Competition Secretary £270 and Treasurer £140. A vote then took place regarding paying the agreed Honoraria in arrears.

Proposed by Bruce Tulley; Seconded by Mike Roylance. Carried unanimously – all in favour, none against, no abstentions.

11 Election of officers:

All existing post holders bar DN had announced their intention to stand for re-election and in the absence of any other nominations were duly re-elected unopposed as per league rules. Carried unanimously – all in favour, none against, no abstentions.

President; Geoff Jackson Chair; Steve Power Vice-Chair; League Secretary as required Secretary; Tony Crompton Treasurer; Dave Nuttall Trophy & Competitions Secretary; no nominees - Tony Crompton will perform the role until someone is found.

12 Proposals received from members

None.

13 Proposals from the League Management Committee

One

Change rule 24.1 from: Promotion and relegation will be 2 up / 2 down for each relevant division;

To: Promotion and relegation will be 1 up / down for each relevant division from the end of the 2019-20 season;

Vote: 22 in favour, 7 against, 6 abstentions. Carried.

Two Proposal for Life Membership of the league:

Andy Long has played in the league for well over 30 years all at one club – Brook Street – and the committee felt that this would be a particularly poignant time for Andy to be honoured by the league with Life Membership. Andy is the definition of a life member in that he has not only been a player, captain, organiser and club representative for longer than most have been playing in the league but also an officer of the league. As Trophy & Competitions Secretary for many seasons he was responsible for updating and building the wall of records at league HQ Mobberley amongst many things. In fact he performed the role so well that we’ve not been able to fill it properly since!

We will now have a show of hands as to whether to accept Andy Long as a Life Member of the league and afterwards – I confidently predict! – a small memento will be awarded to him. A vote then took place which was unanimously in favour of acceptance.

14 Date of Next AGM

Will be at Mere Parish club at 7pm on Thursday the 9th of April 2020.

PRIZE PRESENTATIONS

Firstly I want to mention that the league has made a donation of £150 to Guide Dogs for the Blind. That is all the fees from this years Team KO Cup.

1 Semi-finalist in the Rotary Cup Dave Mullins2 Semi-Finalist in the Jay Trophy Scott Marshall3 Semi-Finalists in the Astles Pairs Richard Owen & Alec Wright4 Runner-Up in the Astles Pairs Gary Hammond5 Highest break in Division 2 Dave Rainford (35)6 Taylor Jones Legends semi-finalists Ian Paton & Ashley Parker7 Taylor Jones Legends Runner-up Adrian Hough

8 Team KO Cup Runners-UpTatton – Rob Clarke; Nick Walton; Dave Blackburn;

Dave Taylor; Paul Townsend; Drew McAra; Ian Snelson; Phil Roden

9 Division 2 Runners-Up & Div 2 Averages Dan Jackson10 Division 2 Runners-Up & Taylor Jones winner Tony Jackson

11 Division 2 Runners-Up – Mere B Ed Wakefield; Peter Jackson; Tom Jackson; Allen Jackson; John Jackson; David Jackson

12 Division 2 Winner & Redwood semi-finalist Matt Dale13 Semi-finalist in the Rotary Cup & Div 2 winner Mark Anderson

14 Division 2 Winners – Wilmslow Cons Ralph Robertson; Bill Allen; Laughlan Anderson; Dave Wilkinson; Richard Bayley; Mike Sullivan;

15 Division 1 runner-up & 6 Reds semi-finalist Gary Long

16 Division 1 runner-up; 6 Reds and Astles Pairs semi-finalist Andy Long

17 Division 1 runners-up Bob Jones; Martin Sharpe; Steve Prossder; Mark Murphy; Steve Bond

18 Division 1, Team KO, Presidents Cup & Astles Pairs winner Paul Adkin

19 Division 1, Team KO, Presidents Cup & Astles Pairs Steve Flinders

winner & Redwood Hire s/f

20 Division 1, Team KO, Presidents Cup & Division 1 averages winner & the Redwood R-Up Mike Roylance

21Division 1, Team KO & Presidents Cup winner & the

Jay Trophy, 6 Reds, Rotary Cup & Astles Pairs Runner-Up

Tony Crompton

22Division 1, Team KO, Presidents Cup, Rotary Cup,

Redwood Hire & D1 High Break winner and Jay Trophy S/F

Mark Newall

23 Division 1, Team KO, Presidents Cup, Jay Trophy, Jack Tulley 6 Reds & Parmenter Bowl Bruce Tulley

24 Life Member of the league Andy Long

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING

7pm on Monday 4 th of March 2019 at Wilmslow Conservative club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) Competition / Trophy Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Alderley Union: Brian Foden Brook Street: Andy Long & Steve Power Mere: Richard Owen & Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Shaw Heath: Chris Jackson Tatton: David Taylor Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall, Richard Bayley & Mike Sullivan Wilmslow RBL: Not present


Ashley Parker Scott Marshall Rob Clarke

Prior to the meeting proper, TC mentioned the passing of league life member John Sproston on the 27.2.19 at home aged 96. The funeral is at Altrincham crematorium on March the 18th at 12 noon. All are welcome. TC has sent an article to the Guardian.


TC had previously circulated copies of the last meeting on the web site and no matters had been brought to his attention.

Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by GJ and Seconded by RO. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



DN has reviewed his decision to not stand for re-election at the AGM. All agreed to rescind his tendered resignation.

The referees days at Mobberley and Mere were cancelled due to a lack of interest.


RBL to be deducted a point (from each club team) for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.

Steve Bond FTA for the 6 Reds; Arthur Faux FTA for Jay; and are therefore barred from competition entries in 2019-20


TC has researched the various handicap systems in local leagues and explained them:

1. Mid-Cheshire League

Players handicaps for league and competitions will be based on their current playing performance in the League.

These handicaps will be updated weekly. Handicaps will increase by 2 points for every league frame lost and decrease by 2 points for every

league frame won. Players who are new to the league or haven’t played for 12 months will be placed on the average

handicapped for that division. Handicaps may be adjusted by the committee at their discretion.

2. Warrington League

This league operates a system laid out in its rules but is so hard to follow it is genuinely mind-blowing or simply badly worded. Apparently it works but I fail to see how:

Handicaps are adjusted yearly for existing players by starting on a given handicap and then a formula of wins versus losses and 1 point per difference – e.g. started on 20, win 20 lose 5, difference of plus 15 = drop of 15, new season handicap = 20 – 15 = 5.

New (to that league) or ‘novice’ players (never played in any league before) are adjusted at the monthly league meetings to whatever they think it should be.

Maximum of plus or minus 50. They have some professionals in the league and play for prize money – which explains all of the

‘manipulating’ that surrounds handicaps in the league. It then also states that adjustments are 1.5 points per week rounded down. This is basically what we already do but without a formula.

3. Macclesfield League

Club Captains will be expected to assist the Committee in setting new players handicaps. All players must take their handicap sheet to all league games, failure to do so will result in the player

starting from 0. It’s the Captain’s responsibility to ensure all players keep their handicap sheet up to date. If requested, a player must present their handicap sheet to the Handicap Committee.

There is no minimum handicap. There is no maximum handicap. The maximum start a player can have is 40 irrespective of the handicaps. A players handicaps will reduce by 2 points after a league win. A players handicap will increase by 2 points after a league loss. A players handicap will not alter if they are gifted a game, e.g. a player not turning up.

4. Wilmslow League

From players the first division is scratch and other divisions off handicap. Plus or minus 2 for win / loss. Equalised at the end of the season.

So in summary:

All are adjusted weekly and then at the end of a season. All have an upper limit per match ranging from 100 in the Warrington to 40 in the Macclesfield. 2 points up / down is most common.

TC then proposed (agreed unanimously and TC to inform the AGM):

1. A one year trial of partial handicaps.2. Handicaps only in division 1 for league games.3. Division 2 matches off scratch.4. Plus 2 for a loss.5. Minus 2 for a win.6. No reviews in season or at season end.7. Division 2 players will have a ‘season handicap’ worked out as per now.8. In cups, players play off their handicap – including the Team KO.9. Vital that team captains in the Team KO and division 1 know what their players handicaps are.10. Any mistakes will NOT be rectified after a scorecard is signed by both captains and submitted to TC.


TC said that there have been no issues of note and all competitions have or are reaching their conclusions satisfactorily.

The 6 Reds competition was won by Bruce Tulley against Tony Crompton

The Redwood Hire Champions was won by Mark Newall against Mike Roylance

The Rotary Cup was won by Mark Newall against Tony Crompton

The Astles Pairs was won by Paul Adkin and Steve Flinders against Tony Crompton and Gary Hammond

The Taylor Jones Legends was won by Tony Jackson against Adrian Hough

8 - Treasurer

DN reported that the current balance in the accounts is around £1,650 with trophy costs to come out (around £700) and Q4 fees to come in.

Issues with RBL slow payments seem to have been resolved.


TC asked Andy Long to leave the room then said that Andy Long has played in the league for well over 30 years all at one club – Brook Street – and he felt that this would be a particularly poignant time for Andy to be honoured by the league with Life Membership. Andy is the definition of a life member in that he has not only been a player, captain, organiser and club representative for longer than most have been playing in the league but also an officer of the league. As Trophy & Competitions Secretary for many seasons he was responsible for updating and building the wall of records at league HQ Mobberley amongst many things. In fact he performed the role so well that we’ve not been able to fill it properly since! After very brief discussion it was agreed unanimously to put this to the AGM for a vote.

GJ said that all leagues are struggling as illustrated by Winnington Park removing its 5 tables.

TC said that the measure of success of the handicap system will be by how many teams we get back in the league, not whether Mobberley A win the league or not.

AL will raise an idea at the league formation meeting if we have to drop down to just one division.

AL and SP said that both Brook Street teams will be playing at Tatton next season as Tatton B and C.

BF said that unless a new captain can be found, Alderley Union would not be entering the 2019-20 season.


AGM and prize presentation evening is on Thursday 11th of April at Alderley Union club at 7pm prompt

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Management / League Formation Meeting rota:

Mobberley, Mere, Alderley Union, Shaw Heath, Wilmslow Cons

AGM rota:

Alderley Union, Mere, Mobberley (70th Anniversary), Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Shaw Heath

Life Members

Rob Clarke / Tony Crompton / Francis Evans / Arthur Hasford / David Nuttall / David Rainford / Philip Simpson Bruce Tulley / Ed Wakefield

Ray Dale / Barry Lineham / Brian Mitchell / Geoff Owen / Mervyn Pike / David Potter / David Sykes / Ronnie Tagg / John Thompson / Peter Watson

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING 7pm on Monday 12 th November 2018 at Shaw Heath club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) Competition / Trophy Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) – Apologies President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Alderley Union: Not present Brook Street: Andy Long & Steve Power Mere: Richard Owen & Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: Not present Wilmslow RBL: Not present


Ashley Parker



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by RC and Seconded by AL. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



Tatton have suggested a change to the rule on promotion / relegation to 1 up / down from 2 up / down. This would have to be agreed at an AGM as it is a rule change and TC asked the committee if they wanted to support the suggestion from the committee or leave it for Tatton to put forward. After discussion it was agreed unanimously to put the proposal to the AGM.

Brook Street club will be closed by the start of the 2019-20 season and a discussion followed as to how the league can support the players through this period. The intention is for the 2 teams to move to Tatton club and whilst the situation with Brook Street B is simple (they will be Tatton C and play on Tuesdays) there needs to be a wider discussion regarding the make-up of the future Tatton A and B. The league does not get involved in internal club matters but RC said that the existing Tatton team would become the A team and the old Brook Street A team would be the B team regardless of which division they are in.


Alderley Union, Wilmslow Cons and Wilmslow RBL to be deducted a point (from each club team) for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.

See later discussion re RBL non-payment of league fees – if not paid by Friday will be deducted 3 points also.


TC mentioned the often visited subject of handicaps and despite it being discussed several times and not agreed by the committee, it is always cited as the solution to the league’s ills. Mark Newall of Mobberley A has suggested a possible workable solution:

1. It only applies to division 1

2. Division 2 will stay on scratch3. After the first half of this season, TC will work out handicaps as per previous seasons4. Those handicaps will be used to start off the second half of the season5. Each week a players starting handicap will be adjusted up or down 2 points depending on a win or loss6. That will continue for the rest of the season7. Captains will have to check their squad before each game

After lengthy discussion it was agreed

a) No changes will take place this seasonb) 2019-20 season will be handicapped for division 1 and scratch for division 2c) TC to research local league handicaps and report back at the early 2019 management meeting for the

committee to settle on a format of handicapping for division 1


TC said that DN had resigned the post on 6.10.18 and he had assumed the role and informed all contacts. In the text TC had invited anyone to take over the role and no one had been forthcoming. TC will therefore take over the task for the rest of the season once again.

TC said DN had asked his name to be removed from the list of referees. TC has done this. A discussion followed with TC asking if any members wished to be informally ‘trained’ in refereeing to a higher level and if so he would do so either formally in informally in group sessions using his course notes. TC has produced a ‘training’ Q&A document (shown) which he has put on the league current season web page for downloading. After discussion it was agreed that 2 sessions would be of interest and TC / GJ to host on 14 th and 21st of January at Mobberley and Mere.

TC reminded all that players must have played 3 league games before playing in the last 16 of any competition.

TC said that he had now had all the league engraving brought up to date and it is now displayed on the walls at Mobberley (league HQ) – it looks very good.

8 - Treasurer

DN reported via TC that our current bank balance is £1,956.76 with no outstanding invoices to date. There was nothing else to mention beyond his comments at the last meeting.

TC added that DN had also given notice to TC that he (a) would not be attending further meetings (b) would complete the role until the AGM ends and (c) would not be standing for re-election. SP said that he would become Treasurer if required. TC to put on AGM agenda.

DN reported via TC that “With the exception of WRBL all the other teams have paid their Q1 fees on time so a big thanks for your prompt payments. I have chased up WRBL by WhatsApp and SMS for settlement but to no avail. The team captain is not easily contactable by phone. This isn't the first time I've had issues with this team so I'll leave it in your hands to sort out a suitable penalty (3 points deduction as per the guidelines)”. TC added that he’d responded to an email from RBL captain earlier today saying the outstanding £36 fees must be paid prior to or at tonight’s meeting and had received no reply as of 6.30pm tonight.

TC added that Jordan Parker (JP) the RBL captain gave TC and Dave a fone number (07769-570435) which they have used to contact him and the league meetings are set at the start of the season; are on the week-by-week document on the www.kadasl.com website; very other club manages to know about them; and ANYONE who is a member of a club can attend meetings and / or deal with payments. JP’s defence for not paying is that he’d received a text re DN not being involved in competitions but of course that negates JP’s argument of not being contacted by the league in itself! RBL have consistently paid late and are the only team in the league to do so. Every other team pays in full and on time. No one else makes TC or DN’s work harder than RBL.

After discussion it was agreed unanimously for TC to inform JP:

“Your club will be barred from the league permanently if its team is ever expelled from it again. That was the understanding upon accepting it back into the league. You know the history of disruption that led to your club leaving the second time and the first time (many years ago) was similar. For the sake of all involved in the league, there will be no 4th time. You must pay the outstanding fees by the end of the week or your team will be expelled. You are to pay each subsequent period direct to Steve Power the league Chair when your teams meet (Brook Street B). The next time is on the 29th of November at your place. You are deducted one point for not attending this meeting tonight. You will be deducted 3 further points if the money isn't paid by Friday. Your team will be expelled if it isn't paid by Friday. Should you pay as promised then you will pay the next quarters money in full to Steve Power at RBL / Brook Street B matches and are not being afforded the 2 week notice other compliant teams are”.

Income Expenditure

Balance brought forward £1,689.87League fees 2017 -18

£576.00 Secretary honorarium

Team KO fees £6.00 Secretary expensesUnpaid fees from 2018 - 19 season

£10.00 Treasurer honorariumTreasurer expensesCompetition Secretary honorariumCompetition Secretary expenses

Web site hosting & nameMisc league running costsLeague web page annual fee £109.20Redwood prize moneyTrophies & engraving £215.91AGM refreshments and room hireScorecardsCharity donationsFinals nights referee's expenses

Expenditure £325.11Bank Balance £1,956.76

Income £2,281.87 Expenditure and Bank balance £2,281.87

Balance carried forward to 2018/2019 season: £1,956.76


TC has added a league safeguarding policy document to the current season page of the league website and also put on a downloadable template for each club (if not already in hand) to use.

GJ asked if TC could contact the Knutsford Guardian to cover the league more extensively and inclusively. (Action completed 13.11.18 by TC)

TC reminded all that after the 1st of January, new players must be registered via him.

RC raised an issue of Mobberley B refusing to play a bye frame and the frame being awarded to Tatton 70-0. TC informed all that Mobberley B team had refused to pay the additional match fee of £1 for bye frames and he had therefore told them they are to concede such frames 70-0 or pay the £1. All agreed that this was unsporting and foolish by the team involved and Tatton / RC had learnt a harsh lesson also because they’d given Mobberley B scope to not fill their card in completely and he only became aware of them not playing the frame at the last moment – therefore leaving him with no frame and despite the benefits to his team in terms of points.

TC reminded all that he is available for team / group / player coaching sessions by agreement. £15 per hour; £20 per 2 hours; 2 – 3 hour group session £50.

RO wished it to be recorded that he was glad the league were looking into some sort of handicapping system.


Monday 4th of March 2019 7pm at Wilmslow Cons club AGM on Monday 8th of April at Alderley Union club at 7pm

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Brook Street, Shaw Heath, Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Mobberley, Mere, Alderley Union

AGM rota:

Alderley Union, Mere, Mobberley (70th Anniversary), Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Shaw Heath

Life Members

Bruce Tulley / David Nuttall / David Rainford / Ed Wakefield / Francis Evans / Rob Clarke / Tony Crompton / Arthur Hasford / Philip Simpson

Barry Lineham / Brian Mitchell / David Potter / David Sykes / Geoff Owen / Mervyn Pike / John Sproston / Ronnie Tagg / John Thompson / Peter Watson / Ray Dale

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING 7pm on Monday 5 th March 2018 at Alderley Union club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) - apologies Competition / Trophy Secretary: Dave Nuttall (DN) - apologies Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) - apologies President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Alderley Union: Brian Foden Brook Street: Andy Long Mere: Steven Bloor, Philip Simpson & Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton

Shaw Heath: Dave Mullins Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: Not present Wilmslow RBL: Not present


Steve Power, Dave Nuttall, Jordan Parker, Scott Marshall and Richard Owen



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by BF and Seconded by AL. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



Bruce Tulley is very happy to have the 6 Reds competition renamed in his dad’s memory.

Dave Taylor is happy to combine the Taylor Trophy and Sid Jones Legends into a 60+ ‘Taylor Jones Trophy’.


Wilmslow Cons & Wilmslow RBL to be deducted a point (from each club team) for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.

RBL had failed to attend a game against Mere A on the 15.2.18 (car broke down with the team of 5 in it) and Mere A were awarded a 7-0 win; also Mobberley C had turned up with 3 players against their B team on 8.2.18 – 4 were listed but 1 failed to arrive and again a 7-0 win was given to the B team.

The following players are barred from entering competitions next season:

i. Darren Taylor (FTA for the 6 Reds)ii. Philip Simpson (FTA for the 6 Reds)

iii. Steven Bloor (FTA for the 6 Reds)iv. Sam Jackson (FTA for D1 Redwood)v. Leung Yu (FTA for Astles Pairs) – Alan Williams did attend!

vi. Adam Byrne (FTA for Rotary Cup)


TC asked all present for feedback to the team reduction to 5 players next season idea and a ‘counter suggestion’ of Division 1 to stay as 6 per team and division 2 as 5 per team because most of the struggling teams would be in division 2. After lengthy debate the committee concluded that the vote for change was too close to call and therefore the league will stay unchanged in format next season.

TC said Wilmslow Cons A are considering leaving the league and a discussion followed which concluded that should that happen then the Wilmslow team remaining takes the position in the league of the higher placed team – in this case, their A team.


DN said via TC that matches had progressed well and there had been no major issues.

TC raised a matter: Mark and Laughlan Anderson (Wilmslow Cons) withdrew from the Astles Pairs after qualifying for the semis which TC felt had ruined the finals night for their planned opponents when the dates for all comps are set at the start of the season. TC suggested that in future players doing such (obviously subject to matters beyond their control) do NOT get a league trophy because of their unsporting behaviour. After discussion this was agreed unanimously that no trophy should be awarded in similar circumstances after this season.

TC said that he felt the prizes in the 6 reds had been demeaned with the non-arrival of some players and suggested in future, group players should be moved around by the organiser on the day to make qualification and the games more worthwhile. Agreed unanimously – groups should be evened out on the day.

TC reminded all that the formats of competitions are reasonably established but need to be flexible to account for entries, venues and organisers.

To remind all the competitions next year are ‘slimmed down’ to Jay, Rotary, Astles Pairs, Jack Tulley 6 Reds, Taylor Jones Legends and Redwood.

TC suggested the Redwood become a top 8 from each division (=16 players) in 4 groups playing ranked round robin on 1 day next season. Whilst longer, it would all be done in one day instead of 3. After discussion it was agreed that the format be changed to: Top 16 ranked players from each division invited to enter after week 14 of the season; maximum invite of number 24 in the rankings; ranked draw; last 32 games to be played prior to the finals day by player agreements; finals day of the last 16 down to a finish (15 matches); 2 frame aggregate matches throughout.

8 - Treasurer

DN reported via TC that there was nothing else to mention beyond his comments at the last meeting.

There has only been the payment of the third quarter and Team KO cup fees since the last meeting and the current balance is £2,492.57 – which he will continue to monitor. No fees are outstanding but the final invoice is due soon so team captains / treasurers and clubs need to be on top of this and ensure all money due is done so before the AGM or on the night. ANY clubs still due after the AGM will be dealt with accordingly.


TC asked all, when attending Brook Street for the AGM, to consider parking at Aldi and walking across to the club due to the lack of on-site parking.

TC confirmed access to Brook Street from 6pm.


AGM on Thursday 5th of April at Brook Street at 7pm

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Brook Street, Morley, Shaw Heath, Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Mobberley, Mere, Alderley Union

AGM rota:

Alderley Union, Mere, Mobberley (70th Anniversary), Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Shaw Heath, Brook Street

Life Members

Bruce Tulley / David Nuttall / David Rainford / Ed Wakefield / Francis Evans / Rob Clarke / Tony Crompton / Arthur Hasford / Philip Simpson

Barry Lineham / Brian Mitchell / David Potter / David Sykes / Geoff Owen / Mervyn Pike / Geoff Sharpe / John Sproston / Ronnie Tagg / John Thompson / Peter Watson / Ray Dale / Sid Jones

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE E-Mail MEETING on Tuesday 7 th November 2017

Purpose: To discuss the rescinding of points deductions for Mobberley and RBL for unpaid league fees on the 6.1.17

1 - Contacted:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Abstained Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) apologies Competition / Trophy Secretary: Dave Nuttall (DN) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Alderley Union: Brian Foden (no reply) Brook Street: Andy Long & Ashley Parker Mere: Richard Owen & Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton (abstained) Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall Wilmslow RBL: No reply & not involved in the original decision

2 – Email by DN:

Hi all, I have since found out that the Mobberley teams had indeed paid all their league fees, in good faith, to their Victory Hall club treasurer to pass on to me. This fact has been confirmed via Tony Crompton. I feel it would, therefore, be unfair of the league to impose a points deduction against these teams as the late payment of the fees was clearly not of their doing. Because of this, I propose that the points deduction levied against Mobberley ABC & D be rescinded. In simple terms, I feel it's a bit harsh to penalise the players because of the ineptitude of another person not even connected to league snooker. May I stress that Tony has absolutely NOTHING to do with my proposal and all this only came to light when I queried the missing payment. Tony then explained what had happened. Can I have a yes - no - maybe answer which I can then take back to Tony. Regards, Dave Nuttall

3 – Responses:

For: Wilmslow Cons; Mere; Tatton; Shaw Heath; Brook Street Against: None

Abstained / no reply / not involved in decision: Mobberley; Alderley Union; Wilmslow RBL

4 – Decision

The majority of responses favoured the rescinding of the points deduction and therefore the points for Mobberley (and RBL) are reinstated.

5 - Date of next meetings

Monday 5th of March 2018 at 7pm at Alderley Union club.


LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 6 th November 2017 at Mere

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) apologies Competition / Trophy Secretary: Dave Nuttall (DN) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Alderley Union: Brian Foden Brook Street: Andy Long Mere: Richard Owen, Steven Bloor, Tony Jackson, Philip Simpson, Richard Owen & Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall Wilmslow RBL: Not present


Steve Power



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by RO and Seconded by AL. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


Wilmslow RBL to be deducted a point (from each club team) for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.

All Mobberley and Wilmslow RBL teams to be deducted 3 points for non-payment of league fees on time.


TC mentioned the much higher incidence of teams playing short this season and to that end, proposed that we start to think about future league formats to (a) guarantee what we already have (b) relieve some of the work from some of the league captains struggling for a team and (c) hopefully increase team numbers. TC proposed that the 2018-9 season have teams of FIVE players with ONE point per frame and ONE point for the aggregate. Not playing a sixth frame and not two points for the aggregate. TC reckons that Mobberley would be able to enter one more team and others probably could (e.g. Mere, Shaw Heath, Alderley and Tatton). After discussion it was agreed to promote this change to all league members in advance of agreeing it (or otherwise) at the AGM.

TC also proposed that, due to very small entry numbers in several league competitions this season, we have a cull of the competitions in the hope that the remaining competition entry numbers increase. He proposed that the 3 Player, JME pairs; and Young Player; be discontinued / held back for review; and that the Taylor Trophy & Sid Jones be amalgamated into an ‘over 60’s competition’. After discussion it was agreed unanimously to do this from the 2018-9 season.


DN said via TC that matches had progressed well and there had been no major issues. The 3 player (with just 4 entries) was played to a conclusion last Sunday with an all-Mobberley final.

8 - Treasurer


There has only been the payment of the third quarter and Team KO cup fees since the last meeting and the current balance is £2,200.05 – which he will continue to monitor. The only fees outstanding are from Mobberley.


RO suggested that as Jack Tulley had lent his name as a memorial to the Young Player competition that was no longer to take place, maybe it would be good to change the name of the 6 Reds competition? TC to speak to Bruce Tulley and change if agreed.


Monday 5th of March 2018 at 7pm at Alderley Union club.


LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE and LEAGUE FORMATION MEETING for the 2017-8 SEASON

Monday 7 th of August 2017 at Mobberley Victory Hall

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

Chairperson: Steve Power League Secretary: Tony Crompton Competition / Trophy Secretary: Dave Nuttall Treasurer: Dave Nuttall President: Geoff Jackson

League Clubs:

Alderley Union: Brian Foden Brook Street: Steve Power, Ashley Parker and Andy Long Mere: Geoff Jackson and Richard Owen Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: Not present Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall (apologies) Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall Wilmslow RBL: Jordan Parker (apologies)


Scott Marshall Jordan Parker


The Secretary had previously circulated copies of the last meeting (the AGM) on the website and no matters had been brought to his attention.

Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Ashley Parker and Seconded by Geoff Jackson. Of those able to vote: all in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None

5 - Disciplinary / Matters of Dispute / New Registrations

TC explained that until the conclusion of this meeting, only the elected officers of the league are members of it and that this meeting is (effectively) the league formation meeting. TC then asked each club in turn to detail (a) whether they wish to join the league (b) if so, how many teams they would like to be entered in the league for the 2016-7 season and then (c) the captain’s and players details for each team entered.

The Secretary reminded all present that League rule 5.5 states: “The management committee will vote to accept or reject any such teams and names presented and, as those rejected will not be part of the new season’s league and thereby subject to it’s rules, there will be no right to appeal on said decision”.

Alderley Union – 1 team

12. Brian Foden (Captain)13. Andy Towers14. David Whalley

15. Arthur Faux16. Peter Burns17. Adam Byrne18. Tony Fielding19. Stuart Jackson

20. Colin Brereton21. Peter Roff22. Adam Myers

Brook Street – 2 teams entered:


1. Andy Long (Captain)2. Bob Jones 3. Gary Long4. Mark Murphy 5. Dave Owen6. Rick Peers 7. Steve Prosser 8. Martin Sharpe


1. Ashley Parker (Captain)2. Francis Evans 3. Alan Flood 4. Adrian Hough 5. Vic Mullins6. Chris Parker 7. Steve Power 8. Carl Prince 9. Will Cowley



1. Richard Owen (Captain)2. Alex Wright3. Arthur Hasford4. Chris Bushell 5. Jack Bushell6. Mark Bushell7. Will Bushell8. Geoff Owen9. James Owen10. Matthew Owen11. Alex Owen


1. Allen Jackson (Captain)2. Dan Jackson3. David Jackson4. John Jackson

5. Geoff Jackson 6. Peter Jackson7. Tony Jackson8. Eddie Wakefield


1. Philip Simpson (Captain)2. Steven Bloor3. Jamie Flood 4. Joe Gates5. Daniel Pollard6. Sam Riley7. Terry Riley 8. Dave Simcock



7. Mike Roylance (Captain)8. Tony Crompton 9. Paul Adkin 10. Steve Flinders 11. Bruce Tulley 12. Mark Newall 13. Steve Bond


1. Wayne Hammond (Capt)2. Mike Gittins 3. Adam McNeil 4. Paul Hodson 5. Chris McNeil6. Bob Spilsbury


1. Derek Street (Captain)2. John Dale3. Ian Paton4. Dave Rainford5. Josh Street 6. Peter Turner 7. Steve Thorp


1. Darren Taylor (Captain)2. Gary Hammond3. Alan Williams4. Kevin Harrison 5. Herbert Hope 6. Dave Lingard7. Brian Lomas 8. Dave Taylor9. Leung Yu


Division 1

1. Scott Marshall (captain)2. Steve Jenyons3. Mark Evans 4. Gary Williams5. Chris Jackson 6. Sam Jackson7. Mark Jenyons8. Dave MacDonald9. Dave Mullins 10. Jamie Way

Tatton – 1 team – Division 2

1. Rob Clarke (Captain)2. Dave Blackburn 3. Phil Roden4. Ian Snelson 5. Dave Taylor6. Paul Townsend 7. Peter Cowley8. Drew McAra9. Ron Tagg10. Andy Keeble11. Nick Walton12. Keith Roden13. Alan Conkleton14. Ant Roden15. Gordon Roberts16. John Peet



1. Mike Sullivan (Captain)2. Mark Anderson 3. Richard Bayley 4. Will Bell 5. David Slater

6. Andy Stott7. John Higgins 8. Howard Blankley



2. Bill Allen

3. Alan Potts4. Laughlin Anderson5. Matt Dale6. Peter Hodge7. Graham Kitson8. David Nuttall 9. Jake O’Neill 10. Peter Stakes 11. Dave Wilkinson

12. Alan Hardy

Wilmslow RBL – 1 team – Div 2

1. Jordan Parker (Captain)2. Rob West 3. John Arundle4. Gary Howson5. Jason Featherstone6. Graham Howson7. Liam Cox8. Stuart Davies9. Andy Kelly10. Chris Bailey11. Liam O’Neill

TC said that a club on Washway Road, Sale had contacted him enquiring about joining the league and he’d asked them to confirm their interest and players by email. However, no email was received.

With 15 teams entering the league this season TC proposed that the league be made up of 2 divisions with division 1 consisting of 8 teams playing each other in four cycles of 7 = 28 matches; and division 2 with 7 teams (plus a bye) playing each other in four cycles of 7 = 28 matches. Agreed unanimously.

There were no objections made to any of the above players joining the league for the 2015-6 season EXCEPT:

TC raised a matter of a number of texts received from Paul Field of Wilmslow RBL on the 28.3.17 accusing the league and Mobberley C of ‘being bent’ in relation to Mobberley C in turning out a weakened team against RBL’s division 2 promotion rivals in week 26 of the season. Mr Field purported that the resulting 6-1 for Wilmslow had cheated RBL out of promotion. TC could have explained that no season comes down to one match; that Mr Field had only played half of the available matches himself; that RBL had dropped more points against lower table teams than anyone else near the top; that RBL had played Brook Street B (who played with 5 players), Wilmslow Cons B who were promoted (with 4), Wilmslow Cons B (5) and Mere C (5) and therefore with weakened teams against RBL; and had turned up with 5 players themselves against Mere A (5) and then Mere A again (5); etc etc and TC had actually replied explaining the league rules staing no rules had been broken. This only received an even more accusatory text: “Bent Mobberley victory hall, enough said, terrible we play all season and you bent lot pull the rug, love to see the boot on the other foot, some crying then wouldn’t there”. TC forwarded the final text to RBL’s captain Rob West and also to past captain Colin Brereton for comment on behalf of his team / club and they replied (précis) that they had worked long and hard to get their team back in the league and Mr Field was most definitely not speaking on behalf of their team and that they hoped his outburst did not affect their league membership at this formation meeting. TC said that all present fully know the history of RBL’s involvement in the league and they were re-accepted into it for the 2015-6 season after previous issues and on the understanding of no repeat problems – sadly one of their players just could not help himself and TC proposed that the club and team be accepted into the league but Mr Field be permanently ‘unaccepted’ to the league should he ever apply for membership. TC added that the RBL rep has already stated to him that Mr Field would not be playing for them anyway from now on but should he appear on any match card, TC would be calling a short notice league meeting in order to vote on his membership of the league. After brief discussion all in favour; none against; no abstentions; of the minuted course of action.

TC raised the issue of Morley and particularly the situation of Rod Buxton and teams. When he was accepted back into the league at Morley (having had teams / played at Mere, Mobberley, Brook Street, Wilmslow Cons and Knutsford Cons) he was told that the next time he collapsed a team – and this time it’s a club – the committee would not accept him as a captain / organiser again. A discussion followed and this was agreed unanimously – accepted as a player but not as captain / organiser.


Division 1 – Alderley Union, Brook Street A; Mobberley A, B and C; Shaw Heath; Wilmslow Cons A and B;.

Division 2 – Brook Street B; Mere A, B and C; Mobberley D; Tatton; Wilmslow RBL and a Bye week.

Mere A, Tatton and Wilmslow RBL will play their home division 2 games on Thursdays and Mobberley C will play their home division 1 games on Tuesdays.

TC said that the fixtures are already entered on the league website with the above structure. All captains must now organise their teams and printed off the fixture lists asap for displaying on their club noticeboards.

TC handed out 35 scorecards for each team including some spares / errors. He also told all that NO cards are to be posted to him or dropped off at his home address from this season forward – all must be texted, Watts App’d or emailed through immediately after matches as this had been a great success since introduction.

The league will start the first week of September and end on the 22 nd of March 2018 with the AGM on the 5 th

of April at 7pm at Brook Street.


At the last league meeting SP agreed to set up a ‘league structure and ideas group’ in the closed season. Despite texts to all, no volunteers came forward and only one idea for discussion was raised (by TC): that a league match be made up of 2 x 6 reds frames, 2 normal frames and 2 frames of pairs games. TC felt this format attempts to addressed all the issues in the league (a) faster frames for the younger players (b) normal frames for the purists (c) slower / less responsibility frames for the older / new and (d) a team could be made up of anything from 4 to 8 players. After discussion it was agreed for all reps to speak to all members of their clubs to elicit the following information:

i. Would the above format retain, dissuade or encourage them to play more or less in the league?ii. Would any other format retain, dissuade or encourage them to play more or less in the league?

iii. What ideas do they have that would encourage them to enter or stay in the league?iv. What do they think would encourage more young people to enter the league?v. If the league use the above format in the second quarter of the season – would they be unmoved, more

or less likely to want to play in the league?


TC said that the Jay Trophy will not be re-drawn after each round to make things simpler for the organiser as per last season. It will be a straight draw from the start.

DN reminded all that the pre-last 16 matches of all competitions will be drawn this year and a date set by which the 2 opponents must arrange to play each other and for the winner to notify the result to the Trophy / Comps Secretary. Dates will be short (2 or 3 weeks) and if no result is sent to DN them both players will be eliminated. If a venue cannot be agreed then a neutral venue must be found by liaising with that club’s rep. No venues will be arranged for you.

TC said that he has allocated all players a competition handicap and these are already on the www.kadasl.com website for all to access and display at their clubs. The process for allocation was based simply on the percentage of wins at the players given playing level.

TC said that the Team KO Cup handicaps will be allocated around the first rotation of matches.

DN listed the players barred from this year’s competitions for failing to appear at matches last season. Any entries received this season from these players will be deleted and not accepted:

i. Jack Bushell – last 16 of the JMEii. Mark Bushell – last 16 of the JME

iii. Ralph Robertson – last 16 of the JMEiv. Pete Hodge – last 16 of the JMEv. Steve Flinders – final of the JME

vi. Paul Adkin – final of the JMEvii. Herbert Hope – last 16 of the Jay

viii. Brian Lomas – last 16 Taylor Trophy

To try to elicit more entries (and hopefully league players), the Young Player, 6 Reds, Taylor Trophy and Sid Jones comps will be open to any members of league clubs – as long as they have not been refused league membership.

TC and DN, as always, welcomes other ideas and can be contacted by phone (see the comps sheets) or email.

9 - Treasurer

DN has provided comprehensive figures for attaching to the minutes (see below) the only change is a £65 fee paid for the league website hosting for 2 years.

DNreported that there was nothing else to report beyond his comments at the AGM and that the current league balance is just under £2,000 which he will continue to monitor.

Morley paid their league fees late again and will be dealt with under the rules should they ever rejoin the league.

3. DN said that league fee invoices will again be issued 4 times this season and will include Team KO fees once we reach the semi-final stage. He will issue details to all (in the next few days) for when these invoices must be paid by. Those invoices would be then issued to teams 2 weeks before each 7 week period and give teams a further 2 weeks grace to pay after the due date.

4. DN reminded all that this season will repeat the process from last season: any team not paying league fees as invoiced, on time, would be penalised: (a) first offence - 3 point deduction for each offending team (b) second offence in the same season - 5 points deduction from each offending team plus an £18 fine (c) third offence in the same season – 10 points deduction and a £30 fine from each offending team.

5.

Knutsford and District Amateur Snooker League Balance Sheet - Season 2016 - 2017

Income Expenditure

Balance brought forward£2,154.1

9 League fees 2016 -17

£2,688.00 Secretary honorarium

£975.00

Team KO fees £180.00 Secretary expenses £60.00

Misc payment £18.00 Treasurer honorarium£140.0

0

Treasurer expenses

Competition Secretary honorarium£270.0

0 Competition Secretary expenses

Web site hosting & name £52.80 Misc league running costs £39.79

League web page annual fee£124.8

0

Redwood prize money£110.0

0

Trophies & engraving£684.7

5 AGM refreshments and room hire

£160.00

Scorecards

Charity donations£205.0

0

Finals nights referee's expenses£190.0

0

Expenditure £3,012.1

4

Bank Balance£2,028.0

5

Income£5,040.1

9 Expenditure and Bank balance£5,040.1

9

£22 overpayment from Morley C/F from 2015/16 season Balance carried forward to 2017/2018 season:

£2,028.05

Date Details Amount

Cheque / E

Date Details Cheque / E

Amount

18 May 2016 League Fees £22.00 E12 October

2016Tatton £42.00 E 12 August

2016Ink for secretary E £20.80

14 October 2016

Brook St A £42.00 E 03 September 2016

League stats site fees E £124.80

16 October 2016

Brook St B £42.00 E 10 September 2016

Trophies (26 from B&W)

E £61.95

21 October 2016

Mere A,B,C £126.00 Cheque 13 September 2016

Trophies (10 from B&W)

E £20.00

21 October 2016

Alderley Union £42.00 Cheque 11 October 2016

Web hosting fees E £52.80

21 October 2016

Mobberley A,B,C,D £168.00 Cheque 27 October 2016

Charity donation (S.Jones)

E £25.00

20 October 2016

W Cons B £42.00 E 16 February 2017

Ink for secretary E £18.99

28 October 2016

WRBL £42.00 Cheque 16 February 2017

Travelling expenses (Secretary)

E £60.00

28 October 2016

W Cons A £42.00 E 06 March 2017

Referee's fees E £190.00

30 October 2016

Shaw Heath £42.00 E 20 March 2017

Secretary Honorarium E £975.00

02 November 2016

Morley £20.00 E 20 March 2017

Comp Secretary Honorarium

E £270.00

28 November 2016

Brook St B £42.00 E 20 March 2017

Treasurer Honorarium E £140.00

28 November 2016

W Cons B £42.00 E 27 March 2017

Chippy supper for AGM E £160.00

05 December 2016

Tatton £42.00 E 27 March 2017

Presidents cup Charity donations

E £180.00

05 December 2016

Brook St A £42.00 E 28 March 2017

Trophies E £400.00

05 December 2016

Alderley Union £42.00 Cheque 30 March 2017

Redwood M Newall E £50.00

05 December 2016

Mobberley A,B,C,D £168.00 Cheque 31 March 2017

Redwood R Owen. P Adkin

E £45.00

12 December 2016

WRBL £42.00 Cheque 02 April 2017 Suffolk Signs trophies E £202.80

13 December 2016

W Cons A £42.00 E 04 April 2017 Redwood C Bushell E £15.00

17 December 2016

Morley £42.00 E 20 February 2017

Morley £42.00 E

17 December 2016

Mere A,B,C £126.00 Cheque 13 March 2017

W Cons B £42.00 E

19 December 2016

Shaw Heath £42.00 E 13 March 2017

Brook St B £42.00 E

23 January 2017

W Cons B £54.00 E 14 March 2017

W Cons A £42.00 E

23 January 2017

Brook St B £42.00 E 17 March 2017

Brook St A £48.00 E

24 January 2017

Alderley Union £48.00 Cheque 20 March 2017

Alderley Union £42.00 Cheque

27 January 2017

Mobberley A,B,C,D £210.00 Cheque 27 March 2017

Mobberley A,B,C,D £192.00

Cheque

28 January 2017

Mere A,B,C £150.00 Cheque 27 March 2017

Mobberley Misc £6.00 Cheque

29 January 2017

Brook St A £54.00 E 04 April 2017 Mere A,B,C £126.00

E

29 January 2017

S.Heath. Tatton. Brook St B

£108.00 E 06 April 2017 Shaw Heath £42.00 Cash

30 January 2017

W Cons A £6.00 E 06 April 2017 W Cons trophy fees £12.00 Cash

03 February 2017

WRBL £48.00 Cheque 10 April 2017 Tatton £42.00 E

06 February 2017

W Cons A £42.00 E 21 April 2017 WRBL £42.00 E



1. Alderley Union – Not Tuesdays2. Brook Street – OK with notice

3. Mere – OK with notice4. Mobberley – OK with notice5. Shaw Heath – OK with notice 6. Tatton – Only Tuesdays or Thursdays (if no match on)7. Wilmslow Cons – Not Tuesdays8. Wilmslow RBL – Available on some Tuesdays (check first)


11 – Any Other Business

RO reminded all not to forget servicing our current players and the ‘middle ground’ majority.

AL asked TC to create a ‘Open Competition’ poster for the YP, Sid Jones, Taylor and 6 Reds when dates are fixed. (Action: TC)

Several mentioned the need for more publicity (Action: TC to contact the Guardian for possibility of an article)

DN mentioned a betting website that has offered the league 20% of all net losing bets (Eg £1,000 bet; £500 lost; = £100 to the league). After discussion it was agreed to put the link onto the league site. (Action: TC / DN to sort a link out.


League Management Meeting – Monday 6th November - 7pm at Mere

League Management Meeting – Monday 5th March - 7pm at Alderley Union

2017-8 AGM / Presentation Night – 7pm 5th April 2018 at Brook Street

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 6 th March 2017 at Brook Street

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) apologies Competition / Trophy Secretary: Dave Nuttall (DN) apologies Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) apologies President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Alderley Union: Brian Foden Brook Street: Andy Long Mere: Richard Owen & Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: No representative Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: Richard Bayley Wilmslow RBL: Rob West


Dave Nuttall Steve Power



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by AL and Seconded by RC. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


Morley to be deducted a point for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.

A number of players are barred from the 2017-8 competitions have breached the league rule New Rule at 44.2 “Players who fail to attend to play a competition fixture without giving the League Secretary at least 48 hours notice of such cancellation may be barred from entering all non-team competitions in the following season”:

a) Jack Bushell – last 16 of the JMEb) Mark Bushell – last 16 of the JMEc) Ralph Robertson – last 16 of the JMEd) Pete Hodge – last 16 of the JMEe) Steve Flinders – final of the JMEf) Paul Adkin – final of the JMEg) Herbert Hope – last 16 of the Jayh) Brian Lomas – last 16 Taylor Trophy


TC proposed Philip Simpson (Mere) for Life Membership of the League at the AGM: "Leagues such as ours only exist for the social pleasure and competition that we create between ourselves. If I was to describe the league as a body then the clubs are our homes; the officers provide structure - they are the bones; the players provide our shape; but the most important are the tendons and the muscles that hold everything together - they are the captains. The 'Philip Simpsons' of our league are the league - they put a team together week in week out, through sicknesses, bad weather, work commitments, broken cars, bereavements and much more. They keep the league going and he keeps it going as well, if not better, than anyone else. For that alone he deserves this honour - let alone for the fact that he is a thoroughly decent guy and at a ripe old age". Agreed unanimously.

TC said that there had been wide discussion in matches about the format of the league next season – in particular from Shaw Heath. This seemed to stem from Mobberley A’s apparent walk-over in the division 1 title race. TC had texted all contacts to solicit views from their players and to decide a way forward tonight. With few exception, feedback to date was (a) division 2 to continue as scratch regardless of what happens in division 1 (b) if a handicap format is agreed, there are 3 main options in division one – stay as we are;

handicap all players and straight draw; handicap all players and ranked draw. A discussion followed where TC asked each club for a ‘stay as we are’ or ‘handicap’ response. Morley not present and no response received by TC; Shaw Heath & Union favour handicap format; Brook Street, Tatton, Wilmslow Cons, RBL, Mere & Mobberley to ‘stay as we are’. The format will remain as is for the 2017-8 season.


DN said via TC that matters had progressed well and there had been no major issues.

AL raised a point (agreed unanimously) that there were reduced numbers of entries in several comps this season and whilst all agreed that limiting the comps to just 2 nights of play (i.e. last 16 & QF; and s/f and final) is good, the pre-last 16 games could be played by mutual arrangement because all players contact details are on the stats site. If neither is played 2 weeks before the last 16 / QF date then both would be eliminated.

8 - Treasurer


There has only been the payment of the third quarter and Team KO cup fees since the last meeting and the current balance is £3,917.85 – which he will continue to monitor. The only fees outstanding are £12 from Morley – who are not here tonight.


TC led a general discussion regarding the state of the league etc to which all clubs contributed.


AGM on Thursday 6th of April at Shaw Heath at 7pm

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Brook Street, Mere, Mobberley, Morley, Shaw Heath, Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Alderley Union

AGM rota:

Shaw Heath, Brook Street, Wilmslow RBL, Mere, Mobberley (70 th Anniversary), Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Morley, Alderley Union

Life Members

Bruce Tulley / David Nuttall / David Rainford / Ed Wakefield / Francis Evans / Mervyn Pike / Rob Clarke / Ronnie Tagg / Tony Crompton / Arthur Hasford / Philip Simpson

Barry Lineham / Brian Mitchell / David Potter / David Sykes / Geoff Owen / Geoff Sharpe / John Sproston / John Thompson / Peter Watson / Ray Dale / Sid Jones

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 31 st October 2016 at Wilmslow Conservative Club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) not present Competition / Trophy Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (GJ) not present

League Clubs:

Alderley Union: None present Brook Street: Andy Long Mere: Allen Jackson & Richard Owen Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: Rod & Richard Buxton Shaw Heath: Chris Jackson Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall & Richard Bayley Wilmslow RBL: Stuart Davies

TC opened the meeting by reminding all of the untimely passing of Sid Jones the long time President of the league who passed away on the 20th of October, 4 weeks short of his 100th birthday. Sid’s funeral is at Altrincham crematorium on Friday 4th of November (this Friday) at 11.30am. The league has made a donation to a Cancer charity at the request of the family and all who would like to attend are welcome.

After very brief discussion it was agreed unanimously to move VP Geoff Jackson to the President’s position with immediate effect.


Steve Power Geoff Jackson



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by RO and Seconded by DN. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


New registrations (other than previously agreed):

Brook Street – None Mere – None Mobberley – None Morley – None

Royal London – None Shaw Heath – None Tatton – None Wilmslow Cons – None Wilmslow RBL – None

TC reminded all that players who have not been agreed prior to December 31 st this season cannot play until agreed by the Secretary (TC). See league rules if in doubt.

Alderley Union to be deducted a point for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.


Morley had only sent a team of 3 to play at Shaw Heath on 20.10.16, a 4 th player was expected to attend (thus making the game valid) but failed to appear. There were 3 frames plus one player played twice in a total of 4 frames played. As the game is void, TC awarded the match 7-0 to Shaw Heath.


DN said that all the competitions were up and running that should be and apologised to everyone for his many errors as he struggled with the complexity of the competitions and their different draws, formats and rules. He assured all that things will only improve and thanked all for bearing with him – particularly TC.

The Young Player competition was concluded at Mere with 4 Mere lads playing and Mark Bushell beating Peter Jackson in the final. Thanks go to Richard Owen for organizing and running it – and, as the entrants are usually all from Mere, this will remain at Mere for the immediate future.

The 3 Player competition is this coming Sunday at Mobberley and TC will be running it for DN.

8 - Treasurer

The first quarter (7 weeks) league fees have all been requested in advance and were due to be paid by the end of 2 weeks later (today). DN said that whilst the vast majority of teams had paid promptly. However, Morley had not paid and Rod B purported to have an email from DN with a ‘pay by’ date of the 8.11.16 on it and also said he didn’t know how much to pay. DN reiterated that the team was £22 in credit from last season and therefore owed £20 tonight.

DN and TC then clearly stated to all that there will be no ‘chasing up’ or reminders once the invoices are sent out and penalties as agreed by the management committee would be strictly enforced from hereon forwards.

There has only been the payment of these league fees and a few minor payments since the last meeting and the current balance is around £2,500 – which he will continue to monitor.

DN reported that there was nothing to mention beyond his comments at the last meeting.


AL reminded TC to replace the 3 Player winner’s trophy damaged last AGM.

Rod B raised an issue about team players staying on after a match at Mobberley last week to play ‘sociably’. TC reiterated that this was nothing to do with the league and the identical matter had been discussed several times in league meetings last season in relation to other Morley players.

AL stated that his team had recently played at Alderley Union and they had enjoyed the visit greatly. He asked if some competition matches could be played at Alderley Union and TC replied that a Team KO match is planned and he was awaiting dates from their captain so that one of the finals can be played there too.

10 Date of next meeting

Monday 6th of March 2017 at Brook Street Club at 7pm

AGM and prize presentations on Thursday 6th of April from 7pm at Shaw Heath

** Update to minutes: Morley left the club without settling their £20 debt or providing evidence that they did not have to pay before the 8.11.16. Therefore in accordance with the management decision of the 2016-7 league formation meeting in August 2016: (a) first offence - 3 point deduction for each offending team (b) second offence in the same season - 5 points deduction from each offending team plus an £18 fine (c) third offence in the same season – 10 points deduction and a £30 fine from each offending team. Morley are deducted 3 points.

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Brook Street, Mere, Mobberley, Morley, Shaw Heath, Alderley Union, Wilmslow RBL, Wilmslow Cons

AGM rota:

Shaw Heath, Brook Street, Wilmslow RBL, Mere, Mobberley, Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Alderley Union, Morley

Life Members

Arthur Hasford / Bruce Tulley / David Nuttall / David Rainford / Ed Wakefield / Francis Evans / Geoff Owen / Mervyn Pike / Peter Watson / Rob Clarke / Ronnie Tagg / Tony Crompton

Barry Lineham / Brian Mitchell / David Potter / David Sykes / Geoff Sharpe / John Sproston / John Thompson / Ray Dale

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE and LEAGUE FORMATION MEETING for the 2016-7 SEASON on Thursday 4 th of August 2016 at Mobberley Victory Hall Memorial Club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton Chairperson: Steve Power Competition / Trophy Secretary: Position vacant – Steve Bond unable to fulfill the position Treasurer: Dave Nuttall President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Steve Power, Ashley Parker and Andy Long Mere: Geoff Jackson, Steve Bloor and Philip Simpson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: Richard Buxton, Rod Buxton and Mike Richmond Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke

Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall and Mike Sullivan Wilmslow RBL: Colin Brereton

Alderley Union: Brian Foden


None received


The Secretary had previously circulated copies of the last meeting (the AGM) on the website and no matters had been brought to his attention.

Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Ashley Parker and Seconded by Geoff Jackson. Of those able to vote: all in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None - but the Secretary reminded all of the new rules that came into force at this year’s AGM:

Drawn aggregate matches – card to be endorsed with the team winning the re-spot black.

Smart dress code for non one day competition semis onwards.


SP stated that until the conclusion of this meeting, only the elected officers of the league are members of it and TC stated that this meeting is (effectively) the league formation meeting and the Secretary therefore asked each club in turn to detail (a) whether they wish to join the league (b) if so, how many teams they would like to be entered in the league for the 2016-7 season and then (c) the captain’s and players details for each team entered.

The Secretary reminded all present that League rule 5.5 states: “The management committee will vote to accept or reject any such teams and names presented and, as those rejected will not be part of the new season’s league and thereby subject to it’s rules, there will be no right to appeal on said decision” and further added that all captains are reminded of their personal, team and club responsibilities so that issues, incidents and other matters brought to the committees attention last season do not arise again this year as such matters will be dealt with expeditiously and seriously.



9. Andy Long (Captain)10. Gary Long11. Bob Jones 12. Mark Murphy 13. Martin Sharpe 14. Rick Peers 15. Steve Prosser


10. Ashley Parker (Captain)11. Alan Flood 12. Steve Power 13. Carl Prince 14. Chris Parker 15. Francis Evans 16. Adrian Hough 17. Vic Mullins18. Harold Cox



12. Richard Owen (Captain)13. Alex Wright14. Geoff Owen15. Matthew Owen16. Will Bushell17. Chris Bushell 18. Jack Bushell19. Mark Bushell20. James Owen21. Alex Owen22. Mike Ireland


9. John Jackson (Captain)10. Geoff Jackson 11. Allen Jackson 12. Antony Jackson13. David Jackson14. Eddie Wakefield15. Thomas Jackson16. Dan Jackson17. Peter Jackson


9. Philip Simpson (Captain)10. Daniel Pollard11. Jamie Flood 12. Terry Riley 13. Sam Riley14. Joe Gates15. Dave Simcock16. Steven Bloor



14. Mike Roylance (Captain)15. Bruce Tulley 16. Mark Newall 17. Paul Adkin 18. Steve Flinders 19. Tony Crompton 20. Steve Bond


7. Wayne Hammond (Capt)8. Chris McNeil9. Paul Hodson 10. Jeff Gorton 11. Mervyn Pike 12. Mike Gittins 13. Adam McNeil 14. Chris Clarke


8. Bob Spilsbury (Captain)9. Ian Paton10. Peter Turner 11. Terry Norman12. Steve Thorp13. John Dale

14. Dave Rainford


1. Derek Street (Captain)2. Leung Yu 3. Josh Street 4. Gary Hammond5. John Percival 6. Nick Evans7. Freddie Groves8. Derek Ruth

Division 2 – E team

10. Darren Taylor (Captain)11. Herbert Hope 12. Phil Willocks 13. Alan Williams14. Geoff Taylor 15. Kevin Harrison 16. Brian Lomas 17. Dave Taylor18. Dave Lingard

Morley – 1 teams entered

Division 1

1. Rod Buxton (Captain)2. Richard Buxton3. Paul Elkin4. Des Irving5. Andrew Bosson6. Rick Edwards7. Chris Smith8. Colin Hamer9. George Antrobus10. Mike Anders


Division 1

11. Scott Marshall (captain)12. Sam Jackson13. Jamie Way 14. Chris Jackson 15. Dave Mullins 16. Dave MacDonald17. Mark Evans 18. Steve Jenyons19. James Hall20. Gary Williams

Tatton – 1 team – Division 1

17. Rob Clarke (Captain)18. Ian Snelson 19. Dave Blackburn 20. Paul Townsend 21. Drew McAra22. John Peet23. Ron Tagg24. Dave Taylor25. Alan Conkleton26. Win Ti Ha27. Peter Sutton28. Keith Roden29. Andy Keeble30. Nick Walton31. Peter Cowley32. Phil Roden33. John Barnes



9. Mike Sullivan (Captain)10. Jonathan Smith 11. Richard Bayley 12. John Higgins 13. David Slater 14. Will Bell 15. Charlie Williams 16. Mark Anderson 17. Andy Stott



14. Bill Allen15. David Nuttall 16. Jake O’Neill 17. Dave Wilkinson 18. Peter Stakes 19. Peter Watson 20. Graham Kitson21. Peter Hodge22. Lawrence Hodge23. Alan Potts24. Richard Porter25. Alan Beeley


12. Rob West (Captain)

13. Colin Brereton 14. Stuart Davies15. John Arundle16. Paul Field17. Graham Howson18. Jason Featherstone19. Jordan Parker20. Wayne Wickenden21. Andy Kelly


TC said that he had been approached by Brian Foden who played for Morley B last season to say that he (and several other Morley B players) have moved to Alderley Union club and wish to enter a team. Due to the unusual circumstances, and potential for losing a team, the committee have a number of options open to them in relation to the placement of that team if accepted. Alderley Union then made a formal application to join the league and the application was accepted and they listed their players as:

23. Brian Foden (Captain)24. Arthur Faux25. Stuart Jackson26. David Whalley27. Andy Towers28. Peter Burns29. Adam Byrne30. David O’Rourke31. Peter Roff32. Karl Brookfield33. Luke Foden

With 17 teams entering the league this season TC proposed that the league be made up of 2 divisions with division 1 consisting of 8 teams playing each other in four cycles of 7 = 28 matches; and division 2 with 9 teams (plus a bye) playing each other 3 times in cycles of 9 matches = 27 actual match weeks.

At this point, Mike Richmond asked to discuss a letter (regarding Morley A’s ‘non-entry’ to the league) with the committee and was told that as neither he nor his team were members of the league then this was not acceptable and he was asked to leave the meeting – which he eventually did.


Division 1 – Alderley Union, Brook Street A; Mobberley A and B; Morley; Shaw Heath; Tatton; Wilmslow Cons A.

Division 2 – Brook Street B; Mere A, B and C; Mobberley C, D and E; Wilmslow Cons B; Wilmslow RBL.

Mere A and Wilmslow RBL will play their home games on Thursdays and Mobberley E will play at home on Wednesdays.

Mere B wish to revert to home games on Tuesday and TC will alter the fixtures accordingly.

TC said that the fixtures will now be entered on the league website with the above structure. All captains must now organise their teams and printed off the fixture lists next week for displaying on their club noticeboards.

TC handed out 35 scorecards for each team including some spares / errors. He also told all that NO cards are to be posted to him or dropped off at his home address from this season forward – all must be texted or emailed through immediately after matches as this had been a great success since introduction.

Division 1 starts on Thursday the 1st of September and division 2 starts the following week.


None.


TC said that this position was now vacant due to Steve Bond being unable to fulfil the role due to work. TC then asked the representatives if any volunteer was forthcoming as for him to do both jobs was very difficult and a compromise that clubs will be allocated competitions to organise wherever possible.

TC said that the Jay Trophy will not be re-drawn after each round to make things simpler for the organiser.

TC said that he has allocated all players a competition handicap and these are already on the www.kadasl.com website for all to access and display at their clubs. The process for allocation was based simply on the percentage of wins at the players given playing level.

TC said that in an effort to avoid the congestion of fixtures previously seen at the end of the season, and which impact greatly on the officials, competition weeks have been inserted into the programme at monthly intervals. This combined with the agreed addition of ‘pre last 16’ qualifying days at Mobberley for some comps should also help ease matters.

TC said that the Team KO Cup handicaps will be allocated around the first 7 / 9 week rotation.

All the dates have been set for the competitions and the Sunday comps have been moved to monthly from November. It is therefore VITAL that the guidelines handed out on the back of the AGM agenda are adhered to by players. Players failing to turn up without the appropriate notice will be barred from ALL competitions the following season.

TC, as always, welcomes other ideas and he can be contacted by phone (see the comps sheets) 0788-573-6905 or email ([email protected] and also on the website).

9 - Treasurer

DN reported that there was nothing else to report beyond his comments at the AGM and that the current league balance is £3,026.92 which he will continue to monitor.

6. DN said that league fee invoices will again be issued 4 times (every 7 weeks) this season. He has already issued dates (and will reissue updated details tomorrow) to all for when these invoices must be paid by. Those invoices would be issued to teams 2 weeks before each 7 week period and give teams a further 2 weeks grace to pay after the due date.

7. This raised an issue and discussion as under our rules, players, teams or clubs can be dealt with for late / non-payment and after lengthy discussion it was proposed and agreed unanimously that this season any team not paying league fees as invoiced, on time, would be penalised: (a) first offence - 3 point deduction for each offending team (b) second offence in the same season - 5 points deduction from each offending team plus an £18 fine (c) third offence in the same season – 10 points deduction and a £30 fine from each offending team.

Knutsford and District Amateur Snooker League Balance Sheet - Season 2015 - 2016Income Expenditure

Balance brought forward £3,016.92

League fees 2015 -16 £2,662.0060.0

0 Secretary honoraria£975.0

0

Team KO fees £210.0036.0

0 Secretary expenses

WRBL arrears £64.00 Treasurer honoraria£140.0

0Unpresented chq £10.00 Treasurer expenses

Competition Secretary honoraria£270.0

0Competition Secretary expenses

Web site hosting & name

League web page annual fee£132.6

0

Picture Frames£196.8

3Ink Cartridges £11.30

Redwood prize money£110.0

0

Pot as many reds prizes£189.5

0Trophies & engraving £763.0

0

mailto:[email protected]

AGM refreshments and room hire£210.0

0Scorecards £78.00

Golf Day£185.0

0

Life members meal£104.5

0

Charity donations£204.0

0Team KO fees overpayment £12.00

Finals nights referee's expenses£205.0

0Expenditure £3,786.73Bank Balance £2,176.19

Income£5,962.9

2 Expenditure and Bank balance £5,962.92Balance carried forward to 2015/2016 season: £2,176.19


TC told everyone that Mobberley now has direct access to the snooker room only via the ‘front door’.

TC said that due to virtually no viewings, the league Facebook page will no longer be updated.


9. Alderley Union – Not Tuesdays

10. Brook Street – OK with notice11. Mere – OK with notice12. Mobberley – OK with notice13. Morley – Not Tuesdays14. Shaw Heath – OK with notice 15. Tatton – Only Tuesdays or Thursdays16. Wilmslow Cons – Not Tuesdays17. Wilmslow RBL – Available on some Tuesdays


TC reminded SM to book the AGM for Shaw Heath at 7pm on Thursday 6th April 2017.


Paul Townsend and TC reminded all that they are available for any individual or team coaching sessions.

Andy Long said he had passed details of the company doing the roll of honour boards to SB – TC to speak to SB to get these details or to arrange a new supplier.

The earlier discussion about placement of ‘new teams’ within the league where it was (erroneously) stated that new teams must be placed in division 2 led to the subject being deferred to the next meeting for fuller discussion. NOTE FROM TC SUBSEQUENTLY: This is not a league rule, it was a committee policy. That policy can be debated without need to adjust the rules.


League Management Meeting – Monday 31st October - 7pm at Wilmslow Cons

League Management Meeting – Monday 6th March - 7pm at Brook Street


Morley Club – Friday 15 th April 2016 Attendance: (43 listed):

Officers - President – Sid Jones (SJ -not present); Vice-President - Geoff Jackson (GJ – present); Chair – Steve Power (SP - present); Secretary – Tony Crompton (TC - present); Treasurer – Dave Nuttall (DN - present); Trophy & Competitions Secretary – Steve Bond (SB – not present).

Brook Street (10) – Carl Prince, Steve Power, Gary Long, Rick Peers, Steve Prosser, Mark Murphy, Francis Evans, Bob Jones, Adrian Hough and Andy Long.

Mere (3) – Geoff Jackson, Ed Wakefield and Sam Jackson.

Morley (7) – Paul Hart, Richard Buxton, Rod Buxton, Dave Whalley, Arthur Faux, Brian Foden and Mike Richmond.

Mobberley (15) – Tony Crompton, Mike Roylance, Mark Newall, Steve Flinders, Paul Adkin, Geoff Taylor, Phil Willocks, Herbert Hope, Kevin Harrison, Dave Taylor, Wayne Hammond, Paul Hodson, Bruce Tulley, Chris McNeil and Jeff Gorton.

Shaw Heath (3) – Jamie Way, Scott Marshall and Dave McDonald.

Tatton (1) – Rob Clarke.

Wilmslow Cons (4) – Dave Nuttall and Richard Bayley.


SP opened the meeting explaining that the Chair for the meeting would have been initially handed to the President Sid Jones for his opening comments and then handed back to him but that in Sid’s absence, he would now hand over the Chair to Geoff Jackson the Vice-President for his comments.

2 Opening remarks by the Vice-President (GJ)

It is with much sadness that once again our President Sid Jones is unable to forward any comments to the Secretary to raise on his behalf but that said, it gives me much pleasure, as Vice-President of the League, to welcome you all to this AGM and prize presentation evening. As always, I will keep my opening remarks brief so I’ll finish by personally thanking the other officers, particularly Tony, for their work once again and I am happy that the league continues to be in a strong position as a quick glance at surrounding leagues will show. Thank you and enjoy the evening.

3 Apologies for absence

The Secretary ensured that all present (to vote) are listed on the attendance sheet, are members and accepts apologies for those absent. Apologies received from (15):

a) Steve Bondb) John Higginsc) Ashley Parker

d) John Jacksone) Tom Jacksonf) Mark Jenyons

g) Steve Jenyonsh) Mark Evansi) ChrisJackson

4 Minutes of the previous AGM

The Secretary stated that the minutes from the last AGM were placed on the league website within a few days of the meeting for all to access and they were also discussed at the first league management committee meeting after the AGM.

At that first Management Meeting, the AGM minutes were accepted as a true and accurate account of the AGM, by those present, and any matters arising were dealt with at that meeting. It has been agreed for many seasons now that the Secretary would not produce hard copies of minutes at either AGM’s or Management Meetings as they are always available on the league web site the day after each meeting for anyone to print off, access or read.

5 Any matters arising from the minutes of the previous AGM

The Secretary said that at the first management meeting after the last AGM, any matters arising were dealt with; the minutes of the AGM were accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting by those present; and duly placed on the league web site as already stated at item 4 above.

6 Report by Chair

I'd like to personally thank everyone for attending tonight and to congratulate, in advance, all those who have contributed to the season in any way, especially the winners. On a personal level our team has enjoyed this season in division 1.

For the officers of the league, as ever, it’s been another busy one. I would personally like to thank all the other officers for their efforts. The amount of work that they do on behalf of the league is significantly greater than anything I have to do. Thanks must go to Tony for stepping in to support all the competitions once again. As a league we really are fortunate that Tony became interested in our sport rather than another. Tony’s commitment to this league as a captain and player is without question but his role as secretary is fundamental to keeping the league going and hopefully growing.

The league continues to face challenges but we build on the years of endeavour from all the officers, club representatives, captains and players that have been involved through the entire history of the league but even though we have a rich history we need to realise the challenges we face going forward and remember that the most important season is always the current one - or in the close season, the next one. If that season fails then all the history counts for nothing. We need to do everything we can for the greater good of the league. We’ve got Tony to do all the management and admin we need. But we are still left with the same question - where are we going to get the next generation of players from? I don't want to cover ground that will be covered later by the other officers but I would like to highlight a few key points. Financially the league continues to be very healthy and testament to this is the fact that even if there is a reduction in league income due to the reduction in the number of teams there is no risk to the season to season, week to week operation of the league. Dave will explore this further but I’d like to thank those involved in the prompt payment of league fees. The competition schedule has been extremely well managed by Tony despite the troubles encountered by the Competitions Secretary and the additional anniversary workload.

Season 2016-7 will again present some real challenges for the league and I’m sure the August league formation meeting will deal efficiently as ever with them. Thanks to all the players in the entire league and competition sections, thanks to the sponsors and thanks for turning out tonight. Thank you, Steve Power


DN said: Income has stabilised this year due to the addition of a team and helped again by our Secretary purchasing some inexpensive, but quality, trophies from a source he found for us a few of seasons ago.

May I offer a big thank you to all those who paid their league fees on time as this does make my job so much easier but having said that I am unable to provide an exact final balance sheet as there are still some invoices to be paid. A screenshot of our current balance will be pasted into the minutes of this meeting by the Secretary.

Expenditure has been typical and we will be carrying forward a very positive balance of around £2,300 to next year and if anyone has any questions regarding the balance sheet I will be happy to take them now. Regards, Dave Nuttall


TC reported: It is now 15 season’s since I was elected as League Secretary and I’m very glad to report that in relative terms the season has been a trouble-free one despite the best efforts of some! I must say that the number of competition no-shows has now reached epidemic proportions with an unbelievable 42 fail to appears across all the competitions and this is despite the best efforts of the committee to avoid too many competition dates, 2 websites full of information and noticeboards that should have the up-to-date info there too. There is a proposal later in this meeting intended to stop this and you will also note that on the back of tonight’s agenda there aredetails of what the league committee consider to be the ‘Roles Of Players’ regarding league competitions. Please read them and try your best to adhere to them.

The anniversary events have been a highlight for me this season with great times had by all attendees at the Life Members meal; the golf day was great to get to know league players in a ifferent arena; the Pot As Many Reds night was really good fun; and the new Sid Jones competition was another highlight.

I don’t propose to dwell too long and as usual I will conclude my report by thanking a few people and I make no apology for extensively repeating myself from previous seasons because I still mean every word. Steve Power continues to steer the meetings comfortably and sensibly whilst Dave Nuttall continues to guide us well and prudently as our Treasurer.

The captains who run the teams each week. Without you, teams do not function. The club reps who have attended the management meetings in their own time and without reward and without whom the league would quickly grind to a halt. This group of club reps are a real bonus for our league and ensure that decisions are made sensibly with the views of all clubs heard and considered. They speak on behalf of your club so it is vital that they have (a) the authority of you as a player from that club and (b) the common sense to ‘do what is best’ for all. I’m confident we have the right balance.

Also a big thank you to the member clubs for allowing us to access their facilities for competitions and events. Particularly Morley Club for hosting tonight’s AGM. Without the venues there is no league and we do need to be very mindful of that point.

Finally I thank you. ‘The Players’. I say it every year but I really do mean that every team and every player in this league has equal value to me. You, the players, are the people who make or break the league. Thank you and see you all next season.


TC said that SB had sent a report to him to read out:

“Through personal matters and bad timing I only partially covered the Trophy / Competition Secretary role this season for which I apologise. I never realised just how much goes into the role and my respect for what TC does for us all is higher than ever now. I apologise if any of my efforts – or lack of – contributed to any increase in fail to appears and thank Tony for once again stepping into the breach and sorting everything out.

The money from subs in the Team KO cup has already been donated to the Strokes Society at Macclesfield Hospital – this was the charity chosen by Mobberley A and Morley B, the finalists in the Presidents Cup – who were once again much appreciative of the league’s contribution.

In relation to the trophy presentations, Tony will announce each table’s individuals achievements in turn as they go to the table and whilst all the other clubs acknowledge those achievements. You will notice that they all have trophies in front of them. These league trophies are to be returned to Mobberley by February without fail. A number of them were returned unpolished and some were not present at the actual competition finals that were held long after the February return deadline. That is both disrespectful to those finalists and creates a further mountain of additional and unwanted work for the Trophy / Competition Secretary. Please ensure they are returned by February. Thank you, Steve Bond.



Proposed by Bruce Tulley; Seconded by Mike Roylance. Carried unanimously – all in favour, none against, no abstentions.


All existing post holders had announced their intention to stand for re-election and in the absence of any other nominations were duly re-elected unopposed as per league rules.

President; Sid JonesVice-President: Geoff JacksonChairperson; Steve PowerVice-Chairperson; League Secretary as requiredSecretary; Tony CromptonTrophy & Competitions Secretary; Steve BondTreasurer; Dave Nuttall


Mike Roylance of Mobberley A has proposed that “All last 4 onwards finalists in non one day competitions should abide by a dress code of shoes, trousers and polo shirt”.

Seconded by Sam Jackson. 30 in favour; 6 against; 7 abstentions. Caried. TC will add to the rules in the appropriate place.


Proposal One

Addition to rules 22.2 (League Match Rules) and 48 (Team KO) which deal with aggregate drawn matches:

Captains will endorse the match cards with “Aggregate drawn - .... won the re-spot”.

A vote then took place: Carried unanimously.

Proposal Two

New Rule at 44.2 “Players who fail to attend to play a competition fixture without giving the League Secretary at least 48 hours notice of such cancellation may be barred from entering all non-team competitions in the following season”.

This gives the Secretary scope to receive ‘cry-offs’ from players with what he deems to be legitimate reasons and therefore flexibility.

A vote then took place: 42 in favour; 1 against; no abstentions. Carried.

14 Date of Next AGM

To be set at the August pre-season Management Committee Meeting – it is due to be at Shaw Heath club on Thursday 6th of April 2017.

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 21 st March 2016 at Shaw Heath

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) Competition / Trophy Secretary: Steve Bond (SB) not present Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) not present President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Andy Long Mere: Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: Paul Hart, Rod & Richard Buxton Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: Richard Bayley Wilmslow RBL: Not present


Dave Nuttall and Steve Bond



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by AL and Seconded by RC. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


There have been several new players registered and played since the formation meeting. All the names have been raised with TC, entered on the stats website and no issues raised. All are therefore accepted into the league as registered without objection.

Wilmslow RBL deducted a point for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.

TC raised the issue of players failing to appear (FTA’s) for matches and had deleted from his review of the past 3 seasons, all players giving ‘reasonable’ notice – i.e. NOT ‘I forgot; I didn’t realise I was on holiday; I didn’t think we’d get that far etc etc. There is an alarming rise in FTA’s with 12 in 2013-4, 22 in 2014-5 and 38 so far this season. That is a total of 72 FTA’s where opponents have turned up and not had a game and where clubs have reserved tables for us instead of their members. Indeed, just 9 players make up 53% of those 72 FTA’s. TC said that this must stop and asked the club reps to suggest a solution. Those offered up for discussion were:

1. Banning a player from entering all competitions for the following season.2. Banning a player from the competition they FTA for the following season.3. Fining the player £5 per FTA.4. Fining the player £5 and banning them from playing until the fine is paid.

After lengthy debate it was agreed unanimously to put the following rule change to the AGM:

44.2 Players who fail to attend to play a competition fixture without giving the League Secretary at least 48 hours notice of such cancellation may be barred from entering all non-team competitions in the following season.

This gives the Secretary scope to receive ‘cry-offs’ from players with what he deems to be legitimate reasons and therefore flexibility.

Further discussion took place about creating contact numbers for all league players (to be circulated for collation at the league formation meeting) and the Secretary will print off a number of sheets for the AGM reminding players of their competition ‘responsibilities’.


TC said that no items for discussion had been raised with him.


SB apologised via TC for not being present and for his poor organisation this year which had been ‘corrected’ by TC once again.

TC said that the Sid Jones Legends event went well and will now be a league fixture in future seasons.

AL and SB to sort out the 2014-5 and 2015-6 etc plaques ASAP. SB said he would sort this out before the start of the next season, up to date.

TC said that the ‘pot as many reds as you can’ competition finals night was great fun with the finalists getting 1 ticket each for the World Snooker event at Events City (Trafford Centre) this coming Friday.

The Family Pairs competition at Tatton didn’t happen for a number of reasons, nor the Quiz at Brook Street.

TC said that the pre-last 16 games required in the JME, Astles or Taylor competitions in order to limit competition nights worked well with the vast majority of matches being played before the date at mutually agreed venues.

8 - Treasurer


There has only been the payment of the third quarter and Team KO cup fees since the last meeting and the current balance is over £3,000 despite the Life Members, Sid Jones, Golf Day, pot as many reds, extra trophies, food for the AGM, Honoraria, Redwood prize money etc which had all been enjoyed with league subsidy.

DN will continue to monitor our finances accordingly.


TC said that the league history pictures were all now better displayed at Mobberley for everyone and all agreed that this was far better than before and thanked TC for his efforts.

TC said that the Life Members meal last week was a great success with 10 current and past Life Members enjoying an evening reminiscing. Bruce Tulley, Ed Wakefield, Francis Evans, Rob Clarke, Ronnie Tagg, Tony Crompton, Arthur Hasford, Barry Lineham, David Potter and Peter Watson attended.

TC said that 13 league members (5 Shaw Heath, 3 Brook Street, 3 Wilmslow Cons and 2 Mobberley) will enjoy a league golf day at Mottram Hall on the 1st of April. The league has paid about £15 per person towards the cost.

Food at the AGM will be pie and chips – 40 meat and potato and 10 cheese and onion (for vegetarians).

PH then raised an issue at Mobberley at Mobberley on the 21st of January where he had set up the balls on the tables to have a game or two of snooker with Rod Bird after the league match had finished. The details were furnished to all present by PH in the form of a copy of TC’s email to him and PH’s response (only furnished at the meeting and unsigned). After lengthy debate PH was told that:

1. This was not a league matter.2. The league cannot and will not interfere with the rules of the member clubs.3. That all member clubs have their own set of rules – some may allow his situation and some not.4. It is not for any club to distribute their rules to league players.5. League players are expected to attend other league clubs and accept their rules.6. Players accept that should they inadvertently breach another clubs rules then they would immediately

apologise and desist.

PH stated that he did not agree and it was his intention to breach the rule again the next time he attends Mobberley to which TC replied that in view of this he would be raising the matter with the Mobberley club committee with a view to barring PH from future fixtures; that he would physically remove PH from the site if need be; and would then raise the matter with the league with a view to barring him from the snooker league. PH maintained his position that he intended to breach the Mobberley rules.

PH raised a matter of a recently drawn aggregate in a match which, despite finding the league rule dealing specifically with such an event, the teams did not know where the ‘extra 7 points went’. All other clubs felt the rule was clear but invited PH to forward additional wording to make it clearer to the Secretary for putting to the AGM.

SM raised the issue of multiple club members playing matches between teams they are members of and the right of those members to effectively practice ‘at the away club’. All agreed that it was not right for such players to practice on any match table and therefore ‘away members’ should not do so – again the league cannot stop a member from playing at effectively his own club.

RB raised the early start time agreed of 7pm for the President’s Trophy. Unfortunately Mobberley A players have organised to go out once RB had agreed to it. The


AGM on Friday 15th of April at Morley at 7pm

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Shaw Heath, Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Brook Street, Mere, Mobberley, Morley

AGM rota:

Morley (65th Anniversary), Shaw Heath, Brook Street, Wilmslow RBL, Mere, Mobberley, Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL

Life Members

Bruce Tulley / David Nuttall / David Rainford / Ed Wakefield / Francis Evans / Mervyn Pike / Rob Clarke / Ronnie Tagg / Tony Crompton

Arthur Hasford / Barry Lineham / Brian Mitchell / David Potter / David Sykes / Geoff Owen / Geoff Sharpe / John Sproston / John Thompson / Peter Watson / Ray Dale / Sid Jones

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 12 th October 2015 at Morley Village Hall

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) Competition / Trophy Secretary: Steve Bond (SB) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) not present President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (GJ) not present

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Andy Long, Steve Power & Ashley Parker Mere: Sam Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton & Steve Bond Morley: Paul Hart, Rod & Richard Buxton Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: Richard Bayley Wilmslow RBL: Colin Brereton


Darren Taylor, Geoff Jackson, Dave Nuttall and Richard Owen



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by AP and Seconded by SM. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


There have been several new players registered and played since the formation meeting. All the names have been entered on the stats website and no issues raised. All are therefore accepted into the league as registered without objection.

No teams deducted a point for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.


TC said that a number of teams have successfully used the ‘short of players’ rule and it seems to be working well. He reminded all that the rule DOES NOT apply in the Team KO where a missing player loses 70-0


SB said that the Team KO draw had been made and put on the website – handicaps will be added after this weeks matches.

AL added that he had now received the plaques from his engraver for the 2013-4 season and had fitted them to the master wall plaques at Mobberley. AL and SB to sort out the 2014-5 etc plaques asap.

TC said that very few entries for the ‘pot as many reds as you can’ competition. As some teams had already decided not to enter, TC and SB have agreed that the top 16 ‘scores’ plus ties will play on a finals night now with the finalists getting 1 ticket each for the World Championship qualifiers and the semi-finalist onwards getting 2 tickets (1 for another LEAGUE) player.

Family Pairs competition at Tatton will have a date fixed and circulated asap.

The Sid Jones Legends event will be at Mobberley on the 28th of February from 9am.

All entries for the Jay, Rotary, JME and Astles Pairs competitions need to be received by SB before 5pm Friday 23rd October when SB will make and publish the draws to the website.

TC reminded all that should there be any pre-last 16 games required in the JME, Astles or Taylor competitions, they will be on a Sunday 17th of January.

8 - Treasurer


There has only been the payment of the third quarter and Team KO cup fees since the last meeting and the current balance is £4,972.92 – which he will continue to monitor.

It was agreed previously that league fees would be paid as normal this season and all teams need to come up with sensible ways to spend the surplus on events. A discussion followed and it was agreed to hold a golf day towards the end of the season. TC and AL to arrange.


TC to arrange the Life Members meal – all reps to check the status of their LM’s and obtain contact details for TC.


Management Meeting on Monday 21st March 7pm at Shaw Heath AGM on Friday 15th of April at Morley at 7pm

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE and LEAGUE FORMATION MEETING for the 2015-6 SEASON on Monday 17 th of August 2015 at Mobberley Victory Hall Memorial Club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton Chairperson: Steve Power Competition / Trophy Secretary: Steve Bond (apologies) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Steve Power, Ashley Parker and Andy Long Mere: Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton, Darren Taylor, Chris McNeil, Derek Street and Wayne Hammond Morley: None Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke and Paul Townsend Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall, Ralph Robertson and Mike Sullivan


Paul Hart


The Secretary had previously circulated copies of the last meeting (the AGM) on the web site and no matters had been brought to his attention.

Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Ashley Parker and Seconded by Derek Street. Of those able to vote: all in favour, none against and no abstentions.




“In league matches only: That teams of 4 or 5 players would play the remaining frames using ‘present’ players but on a 35-0 (in division 1) or 25-0 (in division 2) handicap against them. This would (a) give the full team players a game (b) mean that all frames are played and therefore the league table is ‘less distorted’ and (c) there is no advantage to the team who are short. The player selected to play would be by a random draw of those AVAILABLE to play from the first 4 players on the card. Teams without a full complement of players would also be compelled to leave the ‘blank’ at point 5 and / or 6 on the scorecard”.

In addition (as teams of 4 or 5 can still play their matches on stated dates) teams would have no need to draft in extra players from other teams which means that we could oblige players to register to a team at the pre-season formation meeting and those players could only move from a team at the end of each quarter (i.e. after week 7, 14 and 21).


TC stated that this meeting is effectively the league formation meeting and the Secretary therefore asked each club in turn to detail how many teams would be entered in the league for the 2015-6 season and then the captain’s details for each team entered.


TC has been notified by James Nash and Alan Beeley of Royal London that their club will not be entering the league in the foreseeable future due to lack of support from players / club.

Tatton will be entering a team but are going to be ‘on the cusp’ each week until new players are found. TC said that the new rule assists such teams and encouraged any players not getting as much table time as they’d like, to contact Tatton who will accommodate them.

Royal British Legion have approached TC requesting to enter a team in the league. TC has corresponded a number of times with the RBL Secretary and proposed team captain: Laurence, I received your undated letter yesterday and receipt of £64 being the outstanding monies owed by your club to the Knutsford & District Amateur Snooker League. As you know, the committee previously decided that no team from your club would be accepted back into the league until a £50 fine was also paid. Having received the monies owed and your assurances that NO PLAYER previously involved in our league will be involved in any team you intend to play; I am prepared to put a proposal to the league management committee at the league formation meeting on the 18th of August. My proposal will be that (a) your team is accepted into the league for the 2015-6 season (b) that the £50 fine be 'stayed' - ie you will not have to pay it in order to join the league but the fine still exists as (c) should any complaint be upheld (the league has a full process for dealing with such matters) against your club or any player from your club (i) the £50 'stayed fine will become immediately payable (ii) the team will be immediately suspended from playing until the fine is played and (iii) the club will be considered, by the full committee, for permanent exclusion from the league (d) no player previously registered with the KADASL for Wilmslow RBL will be selected for any representative match. I am confident, having sounded out several clubs, that the proposal would be successful but in order to put it forward I would prefer to have your advanced agreement to it. My main reason being that the league starts 2 weeks after this 'formation meeting' and I cannot afford several days seeking your agreement after it as I will have to fully re-write all the fixtures if it is agreed. This may seem rather heavy handed but, believe me,

it is a great concession if the committee agree to my proposal. Sadly the reputation of your club and several members (over two stints in our league) has left a legacy that your new team have been tarnished with - no doubt wrongly. As league secretary I have to look after the well-being of 250 players, not the desires of any one team. If you cannot agree to the full proposal then we will not be able to take the application further. I hope your respond positively and I look forward to your prompt response. Thanks, Tony Crompton. RBL asked that the reference to “ANY PLAYER previously involved” is interpreted as the ‘permanent members’ of the previous teams, not for example someone who is a decent person and has maybe played only once or twice in 5 years just to help them out on the odd occasion. After brief discussion it was agreed to accept RBL into the league with the £50 fine suspended AND if there are any issues found against this team / club again, a lifetime non-challengeable ban will be enforced. All in favour; none against; no abstentions.

Also, Morley would like to enter a second team under the organisation of Rod Buxton. Rod has furnished TC with a list of players. A discussion followed regarding the ‘nomadic membership’ of the league by Rod and the wariness of the league to accept what (if previous involvement with the league is anything to go by) likely to be a short-term association. After discussion it was agreed unanimously to accept the team into the league on the proviso that TC explains clearly to Rod that this is to be his teams expected location for the foreseeable future.



16. Andy Long (Captain)17. Gary Long18. Bob Jones 19. Mark Murphy 20. Martin Sharpe 21. Rick Peers 22. Steve Prosser 23. Sam Pointon


19. Ashley Parker (Captain)20. Will Cowley 21. Steve Power 22. Carl Prince 23. Chris Parker 24. Francis Evans 25. Adrian Hough 26. Vic Mullins27. Harold Cox



23. Richard Owen (Captain)24. Alex Wright25. Geoff Owen26. Matthew Owen27. Will Bushell28. Chris Bushell 29. Jack Bushell30. Mark Bushell

31. James Owen32. Alex Owen33. Mike Ireland


18. Sam Jackson (Captain)19. Geoff Jackson 20. Allen Jackson 21. Antony Jackson22. David Jackson23. Eddie Wakefield24. John Jackson25. Thomas Jackson26. Dan Jackson


17. Philip Simpson (Captain)18. Daniel Pollard19. Jamie Flood 20. Terry Riley 21. Sam Riley22. Joe Gates23. Dave Simcock24. Steven Bloor25. Peter Jackson



21. Steve Bond(Captain)22. Mike Roylance 23. Bruce Tulley 24. Mark Newall

25. Paul Adkin 26. Steve Flinders 27. Tony Crompton


15. Wayne Hammond (Captain)

16. Chris McNeil17. Paul Hodson 18. Jeff Gorton 19. Mervyn Pike 20. Mike Gittins 21. Adam McNeil 22. Scott Mills


15. Bob Spilsbury (Captain)16. Ian Paton17. Peter Turner 18. Terry Norman19. Steve Thorp20. John Dale21. Dave Rainford


1. Derek Street (Captain)2. Leung Yu 3. Josh Street 4. Gary Hammond5. John Percival 6. Dennis Robinson 7. Nigel Hodson

Division 2 – E team

19. Darren Taylor (Captain)20. Herbert Hope 21. Phil Willocks 22. Alan Williams23. Geoff Taylor 24. Kevin Harrison 25. Brian Lomas 26. Dave Taylor27. Dave Lingard

Morley – 2 teams entered


1. Paul Hart (Captain) 2. Dave Moore 3. Graham Walls 4. Jason Robinson 5. Steve Stubbs 6. Derek Stubbs 7. Rod Bird


1. Rod Buxton (Captain)2. Richard Buxton3. Paul Elkin4. Arthur Faux5. Duncan Worth 6. Richard Jones 7. Patrick Bradshaw8. Des Irving9. Brian Foden10. Stuart Jackson

Shaw Heath – 1 team entered – Division 2

21. Scott Marshall (captain)22. Mark Jenyons23. Jamie Way 24. Chris Jackson 25. Dave Mullins 26. Dave MacDonald27. Mark Evans 28. Steve Jenyons29. Gary Williams

Tatton – 1 team entered – Division 1

34. Rob Clarke (Captain)35. Ian Snelson 36. Dave Blackburn

37. Paul Townsend 38. Drew McAra39. John Peet40. Ron Tagg41. Dave Taylor42. Alan Conkleton43. Win Ti Ha

Wilmslow Cons - 2 teams entered


18. Mike Sullivan (Captain)19. Jonathan Smith 20. Richard Bayley 21. John Higgins 22. David Slater 23. Will Bell 24. Charlie Williams 25. Mark Anderson



27. Bill Allen28. David Nuttall 29. Jake O’Neill 30. Dave Wilkinson 31. Peter Stakes 32. Jim Sinclair33. Matt Dale 34. Peter Watson 35. Graham Kitson36. Peter Hodge37. Lawrence Hodge


22. Colin Brereton (Captain)23. Stuart Davies24. John Arundle25. Rob West26. Paul Field27. Graham Howson28. Jason Featherstone29. Jordan Parker30. Wayne Wickenden31. Dave Wallington


Brook Street B made a request under rule 15.5 “Teams playing in the first division will normally play on Thursday nights. Exceptions may be made to ensure the continuity and smooth running of the league” to play their home games on Tuesdays and this was agreed.

With 17 teams entering the league this season TC proposed (AL seconded) that the league be made up of 2 divisions with division 1 consisting of 8 teams playing each other in four cycles of 7 = 28 matches; and division 2 with 9 teams (plus a bye) playing each other 3 times in cycles of 9 matches = 27 actual match weeks.


Division 1 – Brook Street A and B; Mere B; Mobberley A and B; Morley A; Tatton; Wilmslow Cons A.

Division 2 – Mere A and C; Mobberley C, D and E; Morley B; Shaw Heath; Wilmslow Cons B; Wilmslow RBL.

Brook Street B will play home games on Tuesday. Mere A, Morley B, Shaw Heath and Wilmslow RBL will play their home games on Thursdays and Mobberley E will play at home on Wednesdays.

TC said that the fixtures were already entered on the league website in anticipation of the above structure. All captains must now organise their teams and TC had printed off their fixture lists.

TC handed out 35 scorecards for each team – 27 / 8 for league matches; the rest for the Team KO cup and spares / errors. He also told all that NO cards are to be posted to him or dropped off at his home address from this season forward – all must be texted or emailed through immediately after matches as this had been a great success since introduction.


None.


TC welcomed (not present) Steve Bond our new T&C Secretary to the post and said that he has allocated all players a competition handicap and these are already on the www.kadasl.com website for all to access and display at their clubs. The process for allocation was based simply on the percentage of wins at the players given playing level.

SB stated via TC that there will again be competition weeks inserted into the programme at intervals to ease the burden of competition nights and to spread the end of season ‘crush’. This combined with the agreed addition of ‘pre last 16’ qualifying days at Mobberley for some comps should also help ease matters.

Team KO Cup handicaps will be allocated around the first 7 / 9 week rotation.

All the dates have been set for the competitions and the Sunday comps have been moved to monthly from November.

Each team will have a ‘pot as many reds as you can’ champion who will receive a ticket to the World Championship qualifier days in Sheffield. The competition is simple – one try per player per match week – set up 10 reds in the triangle behind the pink spot as normal; break the balls; pot as many of the reds as you can in 1 minute; time starts when you take your first shot. Results to be sent in weekly to SB by text. It is likely that this will become an annual event and a sponsor is likely to be found. There will be a finals night.

Another event will be a ‘Life Members’ meal where the meal and a drink will be paid for by the league.

A ‘Super Vets’ competition for over 65’s in the league was discussed. The Taylor Trophy is now 10 years old and has been a great success. Many of the top players in the league are of an age to compete in it (over 55’s) and therefore the purpose of it (ie to involve the older players in a competition they can seriously compete in) is being defeated. Agreed unanimously to hold a new ‘Sid Jones Legends’ trophy only for those aged 65 and over in the same format as the Taylor Trophy.

SB welcomes other ideas and he can be contacted by phone (see the comps sheets) or email (on the website).

Tatton said that they will organise and host another family pairs event. Link to be extended as previously (uo to cousins / uncles etc) and one player in each pair can be a non-league member.

9 - Treasurer

DN reported that there was nothing else to report beyond his comments at the AGM.

Current league balance is £3,026.92 which he will continue to monitor.

Wilmslow RBL, as stated above, have paid the £64 owed to the league. TC handed this to DN.

A discussion followed in relation to the planned season being ‘league fee free’. With the number of expected additional celebratory events planned, it was decided to continue with paying the fees BUT with extra monies going to the additional events planned:

8. DN said that league fee invoices will again be issued 4 times (every 7 weeks) this season. Those invoices would be issued to teams 2 weeks before each 7 week period and give teams a further 2 weeks grace to pay. That means invoices being issued in weeks 5 (pay by the end of week 9); 12 (pay by week 16 end); 19 (pay by week 23 end); 25 (pay by the end of the week after the season ends).


Clubs informed TC (for onward to DN) about restrictions on nights available to the league for events – particularly of note for the T&C Secretary:

18. Brook Street – OK with notice19. Mere – OK with notice20. Mobberley – OK with notice21. Morley – Not Tuesdays22. Shaw Heath – Not Wednesdays23. Tatton – Only Tuesdays (as long as no match on the Thursday)24. Wilmslow Cons – Not Tuesdays25. Wilmslow RBL – Not Tuesdays

The e-mail addresses for the league (and Secretary): [email protected] plus the current league website address of www.kadasl.com and the new league website address www.leaguesnooker.co.uk will remain on the minutes of each meeting as an easy reference point for all.

TC reminded PH to book the AGM for Morley at 7pm on Friday 15th April 2016.


Paul Townsend reminded all that he is now available for any team coaching sessions.

Andy Long said he had again been let down by the company doing the roll of honour boards and he will liasise with SB to arrange a new supplier.


Monday 12th October - League Management Meeting – 7pm at Morley


Wilmslow Cons Club – Thursday 16 th April 2015


Officers - President – Sid Jones (SJ -not present); Vice-President - Geoff Jackson (GJ – present); Chair – Steve Power (SP - present); Secretary – Tony Crompton (TC - present); Treasurer – Dave Nuttall (DN - present); Trophy & Competitions Secretary – Tony Crompton (TC - present).

Brook Street (5) – Steve Power, Ashley Parker, Francis Evans, Will Cowley and Andy Long.

Mere (11) – Geoff Jackson, Ed Wakefield, Will Bushell, Jack Bushell, David Jackson, Allen Jackson, Sam Jackson, Tony Jackson, Tom Jackson, Peter Jackson and John Jackson

Morley (5) – Paul Hart, Derek Stubbs, Steve Stubbs, Rod Bird and Mike Richmond.

Mobberley (10) – Tony Crompton, Mike Roylance, Mark Newall, Steve Flinders, Paul Adkin, Steve Bond, Scott Mills, Bruce Tulley, Terry Norman and Jeff Gorton.

Royal London (4) – Alan Beeley, Rod Buxton, Richard Buxton and Pete Hodge

Shaw Heath (3) – Scott Marshall, Chris Jackson and Dave McDonald.

Tatton (1) – Rob Clarke.

Wilmslow Cons (4) – Dave Nuttall, Mike Sullivan, Ralph Robertson and Richard Bayley.


SP opened the meeting explaining that the Chair for the meeting would have been initially handed to the President Sid Jones for his opening comments and then handed back to him but that in Sid’s absence, he would now hand over the Chair to Geoff Jackson the Vice-President for his comments.


It is with much sadness that once again our President Sid Jones is unable to forward any comments to the Secretary to raise on his behalf but that said, it gives me much pleasure, as Vice-President of the League, to welcome you all to this AGM and prize presentation evening. As always, I will keep my opening remarks brief so I’ll finish by personally thanking the other officers, particularly Tony, for their work once again and I am happy that the league continues to be in a strong position as a quick glance at surrounding leagues will show. Thank you and enjoy the evening.


The Secretary ensured that all present (to vote) are listed on the attendance sheet, are members and accepts apologies for those absent. Apologies received from (15):

Paul Townsend / Ian Snelson / Phil Roden / Darren Taylor / Gary Long / Bob Jones / Mark Evans / Mark Jenyons / Jake O’Neill / Richard Owen / Alec Wright / Wayne Hammond / Mervyn Pike / Paul Hodson / Chris McNeil.



At that first Management Meeting, the AGM minutes were accepted as a true and accurate account of the AGM, by those present, and any matters arising were dealt with at that meeting. It has been agreed for many seasons now that the Secretary would not produce hard copies of minutes at either AGM’s or Management Meetings as they are always available on the league web site the day after each meeting for anyone to print off, access or read.


The Secretary said that at the first management meeting after the last AGM, any matters arising were dealt with; the minutes of the AGM were accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting by those present; and duly placed on the league web site as already stated at item 4 above.

6 Report by Chair

I'd like to personally thank everyone for attending tonight and to congratulate, in advance, all those who have contributed to the season in any way, especially the winners. On a personal level our team has enjoyed this season and congratulations to Mere B who we enjoyed a season long tussle with. We look forward to Division One. In the team we will have Francis Evans as the league celebrates it’s 65th season, Francis will be playing his 50th.

For the officers of the league, as ever, it’s been another busy one. I would personally like to thank all the other officers for their efforts. The amount of work that they do on behalf of the league is significantly greater than anything I have to do. Thanks must go to Tony for stepping in to support all the competitions. As a league we really are fortunate that Tony became interested in our sport rather than another. Tony’s commitment to this league as a captain and player is without question but his role as secretary is fundamental to keeping the league going and hopefully growing.

The league continues to face challenges but we build on the years of endeavour from all the officers, club representatives, captains and players that have been involved through the entire history of the league but even though we have a rich history we need to realise the challenges we face going forward and remember that the most important season is always the current one - or in the close season, the next one. If that season fails then all the history counts for nothing. We need to do everything we can for the greater good of the league. We’ve got Tony to do all the management and admin we need. Where are we going to get the next generation of players from? I don't want to cover ground that will be covered later by the other officers but I would like to highlight a few key points. Financially the league continues to be very healthy and testament to this is the fact that even if there is a reduction in league income due to the reduction in the number of teams there is no risk to the season to season, week to week operation of the league. Dave will explore this further but I’d like to thank those involved in the prompt payment of league fees. The competition schedule has been extremely well managed by Tony supported by other league members. The number of 'no shows’ is at an all-time low and we have an idea for next season which should help even more – Tony will raise this.

There will be more of that later. At least some of the recent no shows can be attributed to the information not being put on club notice boards. I’m sure this will also be acknowledged elsewhere but the support from the trained league referees has been invaluable. We’re looking to continue to expand the number of referees and Tony has a few ideas in that respect. Season 2015-16 will again present some real challenges for the league and I’m sure the August league formation meeting will deal efficiently as ever with them. Thanks to all the players in the entire league and competition sections, thanks to the sponsors and thanks for turning out tonight. Thank you, Steve Power


DN said: Income has been reduced this year due to the loss of a team but this shortfall has in some way been matched by our Secretary purchasing some inexpensive, but quality, trophies from a source he found for us a couple of seasons ago.

May I offer a big thank you to all those who paid their league fees on time as this does make my job so much easier but having said that I am unable to provide an exact final balance sheet as there are still some invoices to be paid. A screenshot of our current balance will be pasted into the minutes of this meeting by the Secretary.

Expenditure has been typical and we will be carrying forward a very positive balance of around £3,000 to next year and I can report that we’re on track to providing a fee free year to commemorate our 65 th season although there are some ideas that will be discussed at the pre-season formation meeting that may mean that league fees are still collected in order to ‘do more’ things.

If anyone has any questions regarding the balance sheet I will be happy to take them now. Regards, Dave Nuttall


TC reported: It is now 14 season’s since I was elected as League Secretary and I’m very glad to report that in relative terms the season has been a trouble-free one. I don’t propose to dwell too long and as usual I will conclude my report by thanking a few people and I make no apology for extensively repeating myself from previous seasons because I still mean every word. Steve Power continues to steer the meetings comfortably and sensibly whilst Dave Nuttall continues to guide us well and prudently as our Treasurer. Unfortunately, Dave was unable to fulfil his new role of Trophy & Competitions Secretary but, I’m glad to say, he has stayed on as Treasurer.

The captains who run the teams each week. Without you, teams do not function. The club reps who have attended the management meetings in their own time and without reward and without whom the league would quickly grind to a halt. This group of club reps are a real bonus for our league and ensure that decisions are made sensibly with the views of all clubs heard and considered. They speak on behalf of your club so it is vital that they have (a) the authority of you as a player from that club and (b) the common sense to ‘do what is best’ for all. I’m confident we have the right balance.

Also a big thank you to the member clubs for allowing us to access their facilities for competitions and events. Particularly Wilmslow Cons Club for hosting tonight’s AGM. Without the venues there is no league and we do need to be very mindful of that point. Any of you that are bowlers will know that social sports like ours are being hammered as space becomes limited. We must all fight in our own circles for our sport.

Finally I thank you. ‘The Players’. I say it every year but I really do mean that every team and every player in this league has equal value to me. You, the players, are the people who make the league. Thank you and see you all next season.


TC said “Dave Nuttall resigned his position as Trophy / Competition Secretary at the start of the competition season as he felt unable to fulfil the role and I again stepped in and ensured all requirements were completed. We have had some excellent competitions this season and we will be presenting all the league winners with their awards after the end of this AGM using a similar format from last season’s AGM.

I will announce each table’s individuals achievements in turn as they go to the table and whilst all the other clubs acknowledge those achievements. You will notice that they all have trophies in front of them. These league trophies are to be returned to Mobberley by February without fail. A number of them were not present at the actual competition finals held long after February and that is both disrespectful to those finalists and additional and unwanted work for the Trophy / Competition Secretary. Please ensure they are returned by February.

I must, however make two special mentions that demonstrate to me the lifeblood of the league. At one end we have Bruce Tulley, the most successful player ever in the history of the league winning 3 competitions 31 seasons after he won his first title. At the other end we have the emergence of a new bright star in the form of Jack Bushell at Mere – he won 2

competitions, the youngest ever to do so. The future of our league can be as bright as we want as long as we want to work hard to make it so. Some food will be available after the presentations to round off another great season. Thank you.



Proposed by Mike Roylance; Seconded by Bruce Tulley. Carried unanimously – all in favour, none against, no abstentions.



Steve Bond is the only name received for the vacant post of Trophy / Competition Secretary. A vote then took place (all in favour; none against; no abstentions – vote carried) and Steve Bond was duly appointed to the post.

President; Sid JonesVice-President: Geoff JacksonChairperson; Steve PowerVice-Chairperson; League Secretary as requiredSecretary; Tony CromptonTrophy & Competitions Secretary; Steve BondTreasurer; Dave Nuttall


None.


New rule to replace 25.2:

“In league matches only: That teams of 4 or 5 players would play the remaining frames using ‘present’ players but on a 35-0 (in division 1) or 25-0 (in division 2) handicap against them. This would (a) give the full team players a game (b) mean that all frames are played and therefore the league table is ‘less distorted’ and (c) there is no advantage to the team who are short. The player selected to play would be by a random draw of those AVAILABLE to play from the first 4 players on the card. In addition (as teams of 4 or 5 can still play their matches on stated dates) teams would have no need to draft in extra players from other teams which means that we could oblige players to register to a team at the pre-season formation meeting and those players could only move from a team at the end of each quarter (i.e. after week 7, 14 and 21). Teams without a full complement of players would also be compelled to leave the ‘blank’ at point 5 and / or 6 on the scorecard”.

A vote then took place: 39 in favour; 3 against; 1 abstentions. Carried.

14 Date of Next AGM

To be set at the August pre-season Management Committee Meeting – it is due to be at Morley club on Thursday 21 st of April 2015.

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 23 rd March 2015 at Mobberley Victory Hall Memorial Club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) not present Competition / Trophy Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) not present President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Andy Long & Ashley Parker Mere: Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: Paul Hart Royal London: Rod & Richard Buxton Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: None present


Alan Beeley (Royal London) Dave Nuttall (Wilmslow Cons)



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by AL and Seconded by SM. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


New registrations:

Brook Street – None Mere – None Mobberley – None Morley – None Royal London – None Shaw Heath – None

Tatton – None Wilmslow Cons – None Wilmslow RBL – None

N/A - all the above were agreed as registered members for the 2014-5 season without objection.

Wilmslow Cons teams to be deducted a point for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.


At the last meeting a proposal for a change of league format was discussed and attendees asked to ‘work the proposal up’ for this meeting. After discussion it was agreed to put the following proposal forward to the AGM with the support of the management committee:

“In league matches only: That teams of 4 or 5 players would play the remaining frames using ‘present’ players but on a 35-0 (in division 1) or 25-0 (in division 2) handicap against them. This would (a) give the full team players a game (b) mean that all frames are played and therefore the league table is ‘less distorted’ and (c) there is no advantage to the team who are short. The player selected to play would be by a random draw of those AVAILABLE to play from the first 4 players on the card. In addition (as teams of 4 or 5 can still play their matches on stated dates) teams would have no need to draft in extra players from other teams which means that we could oblige players to register to a team at the pre-season formation meeting and those players could only move from a team at the end of each quarter (i.e. after week 7, 14 and 21). In addition, teams without a full complement of players would be compelled to leave the ‘blank’ at point 5 and / or 6 on the scorecard.

TC added a link on the kadasl website to the Miss Rule following the discussions at the last meeting.

TC emphasised the need for ‘someone else’ to do the competitions and trophy work .....


TC said that all the competitions were running or had concluded well.

AL added that he had now received the plaques from his engraver for the 2013-4 season and had fitted them to the master wall plaques at Mobberley.

All clubs are encouraged to circulate the vacancy to their members and put names forward to TC for voting on at the AGM.

8 - Treasurer

DN will no longer be resigning as Treasurer at the end of the season and TC thanked him for his change of heart.


There has only been the payment of the third quarter and Team KO cup fees since the last meeting and the current balance is £4,972.92 – which he will continue to monitor.

DN expects the league surplus to be around £3,250 by season end and TC instigated a discussion around the proposed ‘free season’ next year. It was agreed unanimously that league fees would be paid as normal but that all teams need to come up with sensible ways to spend the surplus on events.


AP encouraged all to try to promote snooker and our league as much as possible and TC encouraged all to approach any contacts in other nearby leagues and clubs to see if we can expand at all.


AGM on Thursday the 16th of April at Wilmslow Cons Club at 7pm

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Wilmslow Cons, Brook Street, Mere, Mobberley, Morley, Shaw Heath

AGM rota:

Wilmslow Cons, Morley (65th Anniversary), Shaw Heath, Brook Street, Wilmslow RBL, Mere, Mobberley

Life Members


Barry Lineham / Brian Mitchell / David Potter / David Sykes / Geoff Sharpe / John Sproston / John Thompson / Ray Dale / Sid Jones

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 12 th January 2015 at Brook Street club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) Competition / Trophy Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) - apologies President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (GJ) - apologies

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Andy Long & Steve Power Mere: None present Mobberley: Tony Crompton and Terry Norman Morley: Paul Hart Royal London: None present Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke (from 8pm) Wilmslow Cons: Mike Sullivan


Dave Nuttall Geoff Jackson



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by SM and Seconded by PH. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


New registrations:

Brook Street – None Mere – None Mobberley – None Morley – None Royal London – None Shaw Heath – None Tatton – None Wilmslow Cons – None Wilmslow RBL – None

N/A - all the above were agreed as registered members for the 2014-5 season without objection.

All the Mere teams plus Royal London to be deducted a point for failing to attend tonight’s meeting.


A proposal for a change of league format has been received from PH:

TEAM SIZE REDUCTION PROPOSAL - Further to our meeting of Monday night (20-Oct-14) I am submitting a proposal to the league as suggested. This is to reduce the team size from 6 to 5 for next season and see how it works out. The reasons for this proposal are as follows; (1) A smaller team size is easier to manage - i.e. getting a team together is simpler for captains. (2) Player shortfall reduction – less times a team turns up with a missing player(s). (3) Fewer members in a team may result in more teams being entered into the league. In light of the current reduction from 19 to 16 teams this is something the league desperately needs at present. It will alleviate the problems discussed at the meeting with players being brought in from other teams within the same club to make up the numbers. I accept that this will still be an ongoing problem but will be less prevalent. I propose a simple 6 to 5 reduction across the entire league and not any complex scenarios as proposed in the past - one frame each as before. This should be fairly straightforward to do - you don’t even need to redesign the scorecards - the sixth row merely being unused. I accept that there may be disadvantages for some teams - i.e. if you have a regular six players in a team it would mean someone dropping out each week and a system used by the captain to ensure everyone got a game. If this doesn’t work out we could revert back to the original format for the 2016-7 season. Paul Hart.

Discussions followed and it was unanimously agreed that whilst the proposal was welcomed and clearly well considered and thought out, it was considered to be ‘dealing with the symptoms not the cause’ and was a step backwards. The proposal was therefore withdrawn by PH.

TC then put a proposal forward for discussion: “That teams of 4 or 5 players would play the remaining frames using ‘present’ players but on a 40-0 handicap against them. This would (a) give the full team players a game (b) mean that all frames are played and therefore the league table is ‘less distorted’ and (c) there is no advantage to the team who are short. The player selected to play would be by a random draw of those AVAILABLE to play from the first 4 players on the card. In addition (as teams of 4 or 5 can still play their matches on stated dates) teams would have no need to draft in extra players from other teams which means that we could oblige players to register to a team at the pre-season formation meeting and those players could only move from a team at the end of each quarter (i.e. after week 7, 14 and 21). In addition we would need to specify that teams without a full complement of players would be compelled to leave the ‘blank’ at point (s) 5 and 6 on the scorecard and not randomly as at present.

Discussions followed and it was agreed for all to ‘work this proposal up between this meeting and the next management meeting’ in order to put this proposal to the members at the AGM with the support of the management committee.

At this point in the meeting TC, as Secretary, explained for the benefit of all, the purpose of the league meetings and the attendees: The purpose of requiring at least one representative from each member club to attend League Management Meetings was in order to obtain a consensus for the aims, direction, application, approach etc of the league – in preference to it being driven by a tiny number of officials. The more opinions and views received, aired and discussed then, we all felt, the more likely we would be to end up with a better ‘product’. That agreed, the attendees role is to speak with the authority of their clubs, teams and players and to (a) bring the views of those parties to the meeting for inclusion and discussion as appropriate but also (b) to take information from the meetings back to all those parties. TC said that the vast number of ‘issues’ in the league and subsequently discussed at league meetings arise from attendees not complying with this obligation (b). There is no point in the representatives on the committee giving up their hard-earned time to discuss and agree issues if this is not fed back to the clubs, teams and players. TC therefore encouraged all to ensure that management meeting discussions and decisions are complied with and fed back.

TC then raised a discussion about the miss rule and our league’s interpretation / use of it. This arose from an incident during the Paul Adkin v Jonathan Smith match on 27.11.14 where JS was to play with 2 reds left on the table; he was full ball snookered on 1 red and had an uninterrupted (full ball) shot at the other red. JS decided not to play the full ball on and opted to try a swerve shot to hit the full ball snooker red. He missed and TC, as a qualified ref, applied our league interpretation of the miss rule; called a miss; offered PA the 3 options available after such a shot; to which PA asked for the balls to be replaced. At this JS accused TC of fabricating rules to his team’s advantage, unscrewed his cue, put it in his case, shook PA’s hand and left the club without speaking to his team or captain. This obviously soured the evening for everyone and led to ‘discussions’ where it was clear that no one (other than TC and BT – the only qualified referees) present either knew or understood the miss rule interpretation this league uses.

TC then quoted the minutes from the LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 29 th

November 2010 at Shaw Heath club which stated that “the Secretary had issued ‘Miss Rule Guidance’ from a very simple guide used in a south Manchester league and instructing players how they should apply if such matters arise. This is how our league will apply the rule. There was a debate regarding the ability of referees persee BUT it was agreed that under our existing rules, once a referee is agreed between the ‘players’ then they are the referee full stop. Ultimately their decision is final but in times of dispute they can use any means of reaching a decision – the players themselves, spectators and (via the etiquette document) the team captains. It was felt that once referees got used to using the rule – in particular the 2 points highlighted in red below – then this really was a ‘no issue’ matter:

1. If the STRIKER can see, in a straight line, ANY part of ANY ball 'on' and fails to make first contact with a ball 'on' then a miss WILL be called.

2. A miss WILL be called if, in the opinion of, the referee, the STRIKER has not made a genuine attempt to hit the ball 'on' or any other ball 'on'. This is a very simple judgement call - as the REFEREE, ask yourself 'as a player of similar ability to the striker, could or would I expect to do better?'

3. A miss WILL be called if the cue ball falls SHORT of reaching the object ball.4. If a striker playing a swerve shot hits the intervening ball then a miss WILL be called.5. A miss will NOT be called if either player is in a 'snookers required' position.6. A miss will NOT be called if the penalty awarded from the foul PUTS the player in a 'snookers required'

position.7. STRIKERS should call a miss on themselves in exactly the same manner they would if they were to

accidentally commit any other foul. The same honesty is expected.8. REFEREES should be vigilant when performing their role and should bear 2 important points in mind (a) is

the shot about to be played, likely to have a miss applied to it? If so then the referee should be in a position to see all balls etc and (b) whilst their decision is final, they can use the players and spectators to assist them in reaching that decision.

9. REMEMBER - whilst the rules of snooker apply to EVERY level of the game from local to international, the OFFENDED player can refuse to accept the miss if they choose and simply carry on as per a normal 'foul'.

10. The KADASL approach will be – to remove confusion surrounding the varied standard of referee in our league - that only matches in competition semi-finals and finals PLUS those league games refereed by a qualified referee (who is known as such to the players) will have the miss rule applied.

11. Subject to 10 above – this DOES NOT stop any referee (indeed they are encouraged to do so) in any game from calling a miss when a full ball is on and the player in question decides to play a more difficult shot and ‘misses’. This is clearly an attempt by the player to gain an advantage and, effectively, cheat.

A subsequent clarification was made (TC has been unable to find the management committee meeting minutes relating to this) to assist unqualified referees to say that they would NEVER call a miss when a snooker was involved. Qualified referees could do so but not unqualified ones. ANY referee can call a foul when a full ball is ‘on’ – any ‘offended’ player (see 9 above) can decline the miss and continue as if it were a normal foul shot.

The league rules – which are not ever intended to reflect every application of those rules - actually says at “1.3 Unless expressly covered in the rules of this league, all frames of snooker will be played under the current WPBSA (World Snooker) rules of snooker; However, the miss rule will only be used in the league (1) for all non-full team competitions at the semi-final and final stage only and (2) if stipulated that it will be used prior to the start of a frame by a qualified referee. Players can always call a miss on their own shots”.

TC accepts that he did not specifically point out on the night to JS that he is a qualified referee but JS knows this fact from previous conversations and the refereeing by TC of JS’s matches in the past and particularly semis and finals. TC also stated that he has been present on many occasions when JS has called a miss on himself and also made a point in the shot in question by standing next to the full ball on red as he thought JS may not have spotted it for some reason.

In response, MS said that he did not condone JS’s actions on the night but his team and JS all thought that the miss rule was never in operation in normal league games. He additionally felt that the league rule meant that the referee must announce that they are qualified at the start of a frame and would therefore be applying the miss rule. He concluded by agreeing that the application of the miss rule and previous discussions had not been fed back to him or his team by whichever club representatives had attended those meetings / discussions and that he would avail himself of the details from the subsequent minutes of this meeting. TC concluded that the matter was now closed and the miss rule will continue to be applied in the league as per the above.

Further to this a complaint has been received from Bob Spilsbury (BS), the captain of Mobberley C stating that the week following the above incident (4.12.14) JS was playing BS at Wilmslow Cons club. BS told TC that JS played brilliantly throughout the frame in amassing 115 points and a 51 break but as he shook hands with BS at the end of the frame he said “GIVE MY REGARDS TO TONY CROMPTON WILL YOU”. To which BS was surprised, shocked and disappointed and told JS “I am here to have my night of snooker with my team – whatever issues you’ve got with Tony, you’ve got. Don’t involve me or my team. I am not a messenger for you or anyone else and I find your tone and attitude offensive”. JS said “I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have said it. I didn’t mean to involve you but what he did last week was out of order” to which BS replied “You speak to Tony then not me. You have now ruined our night out with your childish attitude so I’m going to leave now before things deteriorate even further”. BS then came to Morley and made his complaint direct to TC at his match.

MS was not present during the ‘incident’ but had been told a very different account of it, whilst accepting the ‘bare bones’. TN said that he had been present throughout and gave his thoughts on the matter. After hearing this the committee agreed unanimously that this was clearly misplaced humour / banter that had been taken wrongly. Matter closed.

TC has been emailed by 2 ex-members of the league asking for the committee to reconsider their lifetime bans. TC pointed out that league rules states 4.1 The committee will have the power to deal with all offending clubs, teams or players as it sees fit; 4.2 All protests shall be lodged in writing to the league Secretary within 14 days of the meeting at which the decision, on which the appeal is based, was made; 4.3 The league secretary will then notify any other parties concerned in the decision that an appeal has been made; Therefore as the appeal has been received out of time then no appeal can or will be heard and the committee decision stands.


DN has resigned as T/C Secretary and so TC updated all on the progress of competitions:

The first rounds of most competitions have been held without issue.

AL added that he had still not received the plaques from his engraver for the 2013-4 season. He will continue to pursue them.

All clubs are encouraged to circulate the vacancy to their members and put names forward to TC for voting on at the AGM.

TC raised a discussion regarding the Redwood Hire Champions competition and said that he had had several discussions with players over a number of weeks about (a) the future of the competition and (b) its format. Without exception, the sentiments of all the players was that the object of the competition was to establish a ‘snapshot’ of the best player in the league and whilst they agreed that the support of many teams in the league had been historically poor towards this competition, a simple change of format could achieve the same overall ambition. The suggestion was to make the competition a one-day (per division) seeded KO competition for the top 16 players in each division. The seeding / ranking to be based upon percentage of wins at an appropriate stage of the season – i.e. as close as sensible prior to the competition date. As the aim would be to fill all 16 places in each division, players declining an invitation would be replaced by the next ranked player and so on until all 16 places are filled. As previously, each divisional competition finalist would go into semis against the top 2 from the opposite division final and these 4 players would receive reduced (or no) prize money of £20 x 2; £30; and £50 = £120. After discussion it was agreed to trial this format this season.

Currently that would be in division 1: (1) Newall (2) Crompton (3) Gary Long (4) Roylance (5) Adkins (6) Flinders (7) Bond (8) Derek Stubbs (9) Hart (10) Richmond (11) Tulley (12) Phil Roden (13) Adam McNeil (14) Moore (15) Smith (16) Sharpe (17) Bayley (18) Blackburn (19) Gittins (20) Walls (21) Phillipson (22) Bell (23) Bird (24) Bob Spilsbury.

In division 2 it would be: (1) Sam Jackson (2) Leung Yu (3) Will Cowley (4) Tony Jackson (5) Carl Prince (6) Matthew Owen (7) Alan Beeley (8) Vic Mullins (9) Richard Owen (10) Ralph Robertson (11) Herbert Hope (12) Jack Bushell (13) Gary Hammond (14) Alec Wright (15) James Nash (16) Simon Lowndes (17) Ed Wakefield (18) Chris Parker (19) Geoff Jackson (20) Josh Street (21) Phil Willocks (22) Dave Wilkinson (23) Joe Gates (24) Francis Evans.

The seeded draw would be 1 v 16; 4 v 13; 5 v 12; 8 v 9; 7 v 10; 6 v 11; 3 v 14; 2 v 15 – assuming all 16 ranked players enter. A 16 player 1 frame KO competition with divisional semi-finals of best of 3 frames would take about 4 hours to complete.

Mark Newall has asked TC to put a couple of suggestions forward to the committee for consideration:

1. That the Christmas break only include 1 competition (any) so that it does not involve several matches. TC

responded that as you cannot guarantee which competitions anyone enters then a ‘carte blanche’ decision on which competition could mean up to 10 days with no games for all but a few players and also if these ‘waste’ dates are not used then clearly additional dates within the season would have to be found.

2. As an alternative to the suggestion 1, TC suggested that he could minimize the number of games with a ‘competition qualifier day’ held at Mobberley on a Sunday where all pre-last 16 games are held for all the competitions. This was agreed with the rider that entry would be conditional upon players agreeing to attend the qualifier day if required.

8 - Treasurer

DN had emailed TC in advance of the meeting with his apologies for tonight’s meeting and saying that he would be resigning as Treasurer at the end of the season and TC asked all clubs to circulate the vacancy to their members and put names forward to TC for voting on at the AGM.


There hasn't been any outlay / income since payment to the stats web site on 14/8/14 of £124.80 and the current balance is £4,233.42 – which he will continue to monitor.

DN has sent out the second quarter invoices for match fees and all have been paid.


Income Expenditure


2

League fees 2014 - 15£1,344.0

0 Secretary honorariaTeam KO fees £0.00 Secretary expenses

Treasurer honorariaTreasurer expensesCompetition Secretary honoraria

Competition Secretary expenses

Web site hosting & nameLeague web page annual fee £124.80Ink CartridgesRedwood prize moneyTrophies & engravingAGM refreshmentsScorecardsCharity donationsFinal nights referee's expenses

Expenditure £124.80Bank Balance £4,233.42

Income£4,358.2

2 Expenditure and Bank balance £4,358.22


PH mentioned that he had been approached by the Secretary of Morley who was unhappy that a Team KO match had failed to attend their club when tables had been reserved for them. TC agreed that this was totally unacceptable and he will speak directly to the teams involved to ensure it does not happen again.


Monday 23rd March 2015 at 7pm at Mobberley

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Life Members



LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 20 th October 2014 at Mere Parish club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) Competition / Trophy Secretary: Dave Nuttall (DN) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Andy Long & Steve Power Mere: Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: Paul Hart Royal London: None present Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: None present Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall


None received



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by PH and Seconded by SM. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


New registrations:

Brook Street – Will Cowley (moved from Mobberley) Mere – None Mobberley – Steve Thorp (replaces Cowley in 1st 21) & Nathan Weightman deleted. Morley – None Royal London – None Shaw Heath – None Tatton – None Wilmslow Cons – None Wilmslow RBL – None

All the above were agreed as registered members for the 2014-5 season without objection.

The Mobberley C v Brook Street A match took place on the 2.9.14 and Mobberley C, being a player short, called several players (including the league Secretary) to play before he selected Mike Gittins to fill the gap. Mike usually plays for the B team and had played the week before for the B team in their rearranged match versus Mobberley A. Andy Long (Brook Street A captain) pointed out on the night and contests that this breaks the league rules and TC highlighted the rules relevant for the committee to discuss:

On the 4.9.14 an email complaint was received by TC from Brook Street A captain Andy Long (AL):

Hi Tony, As you know our team was not happy that Mike was down to play for the C team last night as he had already played for the B team in week 1 fixtures. Although it was brought forward from this Thursday to last Thursday. He has played twice in week 1. You said sort it out between me and Bob and after a friendly chat which some of his team mates agreed it was bending the rule as it was played last week we stated we would be sending a official complaint which if upheld in our favour could result in Mob C losing any points won, Bob was happy to take that chance. Mob have 21 players registered in div 1 plus 4 reserves that should have left at least 7 spare to choose from ! Mike was there watching bowls and I got the impression it was the easy option. I believe Bob checked with you and I’m surprised you said it was ok. Please accept this e-mail as a official complaint to be discussed at the next meeting. Cheers, Andy

TC replied:

Andy, Noted. You’re surprised I went by the rules? Why? He hasn't breached any rule ..... you even say it was 'bent' not broken. I know for a fact that Bob contacted ALL of the available players who HAD NOT played and then selected Gitty ....

Me - at a meal (incidentally, ruined by the pair of you) Jeff - on holiday Flinders - no transport Clarkey - at a meeting Gary - played for the D team Robert Spilsbury - unavailable Will Cowley - listed in our 21 and now moved to your club Nathan Weightman - listed in our 21 and not playing at all this season

So - 21 is actually 20 (a new lad is now playing - Steve Thorp - for Bob). 12 played the week before for the A and B and who we could have just picked under the rules BUT DIDN'T. 5 were selected by Bob for his team. That makes 17 out of the 20. The others AND reserves were not available as detailed above. I'm saying this as league secretary and not as a mate but the whole point of the new rule was to get 6 players out each week and I really do find this attitude of yours (which several of your own team find strange too, even if they don't speak up) all very sad Andy that you would rather have a 70-0 bye match instead of a frame of snooker. Very odd and very sad. Would the frame score have been any different if me, Flinders or Jeff played it? I doubt so. I'll raise your complaint at the meeting. Tony

To which AL replied:

Tony, Just to clarify I am the team captain and represent our team. On Tuesday all 6 players were adamant that Mike had played in week 1 and was not eligible, plus 2 from mob C agreed with us ! It was those 2 that commented that the rule had been bent our 6 thought it was broken hence the complaint. We all want to play teams of 6 but we are playing snooker in the league to finish as high as possible and not get relegated and expect to play teams on a fair and even standing. Personally I think the reserve list will drive more players away ! time will tell I wasn’t to know you were at a meal maybe you should have turned your phone off. Also anytime I have complained the majority of our team have agreed with me ! As you know like you I speak my mind right or wrong . Lets see what the rest think at the meeting. cheers Andy

During the healthy debate that followed, TC read out the league rules pertaining to this matter and commented:

25.1 - No player can play in more than 1 league game (other than re-arranged fixtures) in the same week; 25.2 - At the pre-season meeting, clubs will register a minimum of 7 players per team (who are not tied to a team)

per division (if applicable). Any other players registered will be classed as ‘reserves’ who will be infrequent players and who can play for any team at any time when the first named ‘divisional’ players are unavailable. Any disputes regarding the eligibility of any such player should be raised with the Secretary for the next League Meeting to discuss.

The object of rule 25.2 was SPECIFICALLY to give teams the flexibility to turn out a full team rather than to concede frames.

Mike Gittins did not play twice in the same week – AL contested that it was the same league WEEK (ie league week 1) and therefore ‘it is the same league week’.

AL proposed (SM seconded) that “Mike Gittins frame against Brook Street A is invalid and he should therefore lose the frame and a 70-0 win be awarded instead to Brook Street A”. Vote: 2 in favour; 2 against; 2 abstentions; casting vote for the Chair – against the proposal. The score therefore stands as played.


A fixture error was spotted by the Secretary in week 7 in that Mobberley C should have played morley at home on the Tuesday and not as advertised, away on the Thursday. This means that in week 14, Mobberley D will play Mere B on the Wednesday (not Tuesday); in week 20 Mobberley C will be at home to Morley on the Tuesday, not

away on the Thursday; week 27 Mobberley C will play Morley away on the Thursday and not at home on the Tuesday.


DN updated all on the progress of competitions:

The Team KO cup first round (4 games) will take place next Wednesday with the remaining 4 games the Wednesday after. All the fixtures are on the stats website and teams are reminded that both cards must be texted etc to the League Secretary asap after the match and in any case within 24 hours.

AL added that he had still not received the plaques from his engraver for the 2013-4 season. He will continue to pursue them.

8 - Treasurer

DN said there was nothing else to report beyond his comments at the last meeting other than:

There hasn't been any outlay / income since payment to the stats web site on 14/8/14 of £124.80 and the current balance is £2889.42 – which he will continue to monitor.

DN has sent out the first quarter invoices for match fees.

The competitions start on Monday 22nd December (JME Pairs – First Round / Last 16); Monday 29th December – (Rotary Cup – First Round); and Tuesday 30th December (Bert Astles Pairs – First Round). Entries are welcome asap to DN for these (or if you choose, ALL the) competitions.


PH questioned the rights or wrongs of ‘better players’ being able to play for ‘lower teams’. TC again explained the rules and PH agreed that whilst not ideal, playing someone is far better than having a bye.

All present were encouraged to be more positive and inventive and to forward ideas for solving the mounting league issues rather than merely ‘bringing problems without bringing a solution’. PH and AL agreed to do so.


Monday 12th January 2015 at 7pm at Brook Street

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AGM rota:


Life Members



LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE and LEAGUE FORMATION MEETING for the 2014-5 SEASON on Tuesday 19 th of August 2014 at Mobberley Victory Hall Memorial Club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton Chairperson: Steve Power Competition / Trophy Secretary: Dave Nuttall (apologies) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (apologies) President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (apologies)

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Steve Power / Bob Jones / Ashley Parker Mere: Sam Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: Paul Hart Royal London: Alan Beeley Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: None present


Geoff Jackson; Dave Nuttall; Andy Long; Paul Townsend



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Ashley Parker and Seconded by Sam Jackson. Of those able to vote: all in favour, none against and no abstentions.




At the pre-season meeting, clubs will register a minimum of 7 players per team (who are not tied to a team) per division (if applicable). Any other players registered will be classed as ‘reserves’ who will be infrequent players and who can play for any team at any time when the first named ‘divisional’ players are unavailable. Any disputes regarding the eligibility of any such player should be raised with the Secretary for the next League Meeting to discuss.


TC stated that this meeting is effectively the league formation meeting and the Secretary therefore asked each club in turn to detail how many teams would be entered in the league for the 2012-13 season and then the captain’s details for each team entered.



A team captain Andy Long; B team captain Ashley Parker

Division 1

24. Andy Long25. Gary Long26. Bob Jones 27. Mark Murphy 28. Martin Sharpe 29. Rick Peers 30. Steve Prosser

Division 2

28. Ashley Parker 29. Steve Power 30. Carl Prince 31. Chris Parker 32. Francis Evans 33. Simon Nixon 34. Adrian Hough 35. Harold Cox36. Vic Mullen

Brook Street Reserve List

1. Sam Pointon


A team captain Geoff Owen B team captain Thomas Jackson C team captain Philip Simpson

34. Alex Wright35. Geoff Owen36. Matthew Owen37. Richard Owen 38. Will Bushell39. Will Blackburn40. Chris Bushell 41. Allen Jackson 42. Antony Jackson43. David Jackson44. Eddie Wakefield45. John Jackson46. Sam Jackson47. Thomas Jackson48. Philip Simpson49. Daniel Pollard50. Jamie Flood 51. Terry Riley 52. Sam Riley53. Joe Gates54. Dave Simcock

Mere Reserve List

1. Simon Lowndes2. Alan Greenaway3. Geoff Jackson4. Jesse Oldfield5. Josh Flood6. Arthur Hasford7. Mark Bushell8. Jack Bushell 9. Peter Jackson


A team captain Tony Crompton B team captain Wayne Hammond C team captain Ian Paton D team captain Derek Street E team captain Alan Williams

Division 1

28. Tony Crompton29. Steve Bond30. Mike Roylance

31. Bruce Tulley 32. Mark Newall 33. Paul Adkin 34. Steve Flinders 35. Wayne Hammond36. Chris McNeil37. Paul Hodson 38. Jeff Gorton 39. Mervyn Pike 40. Mike Gittins 41. Adam McNeil 42. Scott Mills43. Ian Paton44. Bob Spilsbury45. Peter Turner 46. Terry Norman47. Will Cowley48. Nathan Weightman

Division 2

8. Kevin Harrison 9. Kevin Holman 10. John Percival 11. Josh Street 12. Leung Yu 13. Herbert Hope 14. Alan Williams15. Dave Taylor16. Brian Lomas 17. Geoff Taylor 18. Harry Halsall 19. Phil Willocks 20. Dennis Robinson 21. Darren Taylor

Reserves

1. Chris Clarke2. Robert Spilsbury 3. Derek Street 4. Gary Hammond

Morley – 1 team entered

8. Paul Hart (captain) 9. Dave Moores 10. Graham Walls 11. Jason Robinson 12. Steve Stubbs 13. George Antrobus 14. Derek Stubbs 15. Rod Bird16. Phil Wood17. Keith Aldred

Morley Reserve List

1. Nigel Woodall2. Seb Jackson

Royal London – 1 team entered

1. James Nash (captain)2. Alan Beeley3. Mark Baker4. Pete Hodge5. Rick Goldsmith 6. Steve Barnes7. John Goldsmith

Royal London Reserve List

1. John Beeley2. Paul Beeley 3. Laurence Hodge4. Steven Sharples 5. Adam Drinkwater6. Nick Clough

Shaw Heath – 1 team entered

30. Scott Marshall (captain)31. Dave Rainford 32. Chris Jackson 33. Steve Jenyons 34. Jamie Way 35. John Dale 36. Mark Evans 37. Mark Jenyons

Shaw Heath Reserve List

1. Bradley Williams 2. Gareth Williams 3. Dave Mullins 4. Mark Jenyons 5. Dave MacDonald6. Stuart Valentine

Tatton – 1 team entered

44. Paul Townsend (Captain)45. Dave Blackburn 46. Ian Snelson 47. Phil Roden 48. Rob Clarke 49. Drew McAra 50. John Peet 51. Steve Jackson

52. James Phillipson

Tatton Reserve List

1. Alan Conkleton2. Peter Cowley 3. Ian Hendry 4. Keith Roden

Wilmslow Cons - 2 teams entered

A team captain Mike Sullivan B team captain Ralph Robertson

Division 1

26. Mike Sullivan 27. Jonathan Smith 28. John Higgins 29. Charlie Williams 30. Richard Bayley 31. Will Bell 32. Mark Anderson

Division 2

38. Ralph Robertson 39. David Nuttall 40. Jake O’Neill 41. Dave Wilkinson 42. Richard Buxton43. Jim Sinclair 44. Peter Stakes

Wilmslow Cons Reserve List

1. David Slater 2. Graham Kitson 3. Peter Watson 4. Rod Buxton5. Howard Blankley 6. Alan Potts 7. Glyn Batten 8. Ian Clark 9. Alan Hardy 10. Frank Griffith 11. Irvine MacDonald

There were no objections made to any of the above players joining the league for the 2014-5 season except for Dave MacDonald and Mark Jenyons of Shaw Heath. Each had been previously suspended from the league for various offences previously documented:

DM has sent TC an email which states: Dear Tony and the KADASL, I'd like to send this letter to say sorry for my verbal rant I had at you over not turning up for

our match. I'd been out all day and a few people were going on about it when I got into the club and then that's when I rang you up. I'm truly sorry and ashamed of myself but I won't be having the same conduct I promise that. I’ll leave it with the league now but really hope I can play again next season. Many thanks, Dave McDonald.

After discussion it was agreed to allow the player to rejoin the league.

MJ has sent TC an email which states: To whom it may concern. I am writing this letter to apologise and say sorry for my actions during the night of the Shaw Heath / Royal London match. It was totally out of character for me. I was having personal problems and had consumed way too much alcohol on the night and a foul which the ref or James didn't call unfortunately just tipped me over the edge, but that does not in any way excuse my words or actions. So I'd personally like to say sorry to James, Tony, Royal London, my team and the league. I can assure you it will never happen again and really hope my apology is accepted and the situation can be resolved as I really enjoy playing snooker. Yours sincerely, Mark Jenyons.

After discussion it was agreed unanimously (RL abstained) to allow the player to rejoin the league on the proviso that any future complaint upheld against him will then have his previous suspension included in the discussion prior to the committee deciding what penalty to impose – this may result in him being banned from the league for life. In addition, he cannot play in or attend any matches against or including Royal London during the 2014-5 season.

With 16 teams entering the league, as previously agreed, this season TC proposed (BJ seconded) that the league be made up of 2 divisions with 8 teams in each playing each other in four cycles of 7 = 28 actual matches. PH counter proposed (AB seconded) that the season be made up of 3 cycles of 7 matches = 21 games with more weeks for competitions and a Christmas break. Voting: counter proposal first – 2 in favour 5 against; defeated. Original proposal – 5 in favour 2 against; carried.


Division 1 – Brook Street A; Mobberley A, B and C; Morley; Shaw Heath; Tatton; Wilmslow Cons A.

Mobberley C will play their home games on Tuesdays.

Division 2 – Brook Street B; Mere A, B and C; Mobberley D and E; Royal London; Wilmslow Cons B.

Mere A, Mere B and Royal London will play their home games on Thursdays and Mobberley E will play at home on Wednesdays.

TC said that the fixtures were already entered on the league website in anticipation of the above structure. All captains must now organise their teams and print off their fixtures.

TC handed out 35 scorecards for each team – 28 for league matches; the rest for the Team KO cup and spares / errors. He encouraged all teams to email or text the results immediately after matches as this had been a great success since introduction.

TC reminded all that he HAS MOVED ADDRESS – cards must be texted or emailed to him now, the facility to drop cards off at his new address DOES NOT EXIST and anyone attempting to do so will not have their card accepted.


9. DN said that league fee invoices will again be issued 4 times (every 7 weeks) this season. Those invoices would be issued to teams 2 weeks before each 7 week period and give teams a further 2 weeks grace to pay. That means invoices being issued in weeks 5 (pay by the end of week 9); 12 (pay by week 16 end); 19 (pay by week 23 end); 25 (pay by the end of the week after the season ends).

10. DN said that Wilmslow RBL had still not paid their outstanding league fees from last season and had not responded to any requests for payment; in relation to trophies won by them; attended the AGM; or responded to contact regarding the new season. After brief discussion it was agreed that RBL would not be accepted into the league again (should they ever apply) until the outstanding monies PLUS a £50 fine be paid. This subject will be revisited should it ever arise.


This would have been DN’s first meeting back in post but he is unable to attend tonight due to illness and has sent his apologies plus a report to TC.

TC said that he has allocated all players a competition handicap and these are on the kadasl.com website for all to access and display at their clubs. The process for allocation was based simply on the percentage of wins at the players playing level.

DN stated that there will again be competition weeks inserted into the programme at intervals to ease the burden of competition nights and to spread the end of season ‘crush’.

Team KO Cup handicaps will be allocated around the first 7 week rotation.

All the dates have been set for the competitions and the Sunday comps have been moved to monthly from November.

9 - Treasurer

DN reported via TC that there was nothing else to report beyond his comments at the AGM and above re RBL.



Tatton will play their home games (division 1) on Tuesdays.

Bob Spilsbury (BS) has asked if the league will reconsider his lifetime ban from being a captain as imposed on 4.4.11. After discussion it was agreed (6 in favour 1 abstention) to allow BS to be a team captain again on the proviso that should there be any upheld repetition then any penalty subsequently imposed will include (or be limited to) a lifetime ban from being a captain – without any future right to appeal.

Clubs informed TC (for onward to DN) about restrictions on nights available to the league for events:

26. Brook Street – OK with notice27. Mere – OK with notice28. Mobberley – OK with notice29. Morley – Not Tuesdays30. Royal London – Not available31. Shaw Heath – OK with notice32. Tatton – Only Tuesdays33. Wilmslow Cons – Not Tuesdays

A discussion was raised regarding the falling number of teams in the league and the subsequent future of it. It was agreed to appoint the 3 Brook Street reps present (SP, BJ and AP) to a working group to bring ideas and proposals to the next management meeting for discussion.

PH asked “whose job is it to let clubs know about meetings and competitions at their clubs?” TC replied that the people attending league management meetings are meant to have the full authority to make decisions on behalf of their own clubs. It therefore follows that it is also their role to notify their own players, teams and club of any league information. This was agreed and understood by all clubs present.

BJ asked if there was any scope in the rules to move regular players on club lists to reserves and vice versa. TC said that he could not foresee any issue with that as the whole object of the rule is to try to get 6 players out for every team every week.

AP asked if there was any scope for increasing the league fees to similar to the MCSL where he pays £2 per week and where a proportion of the money goes to the club as income. TC said that this was a club matter and not for the league to decide. The league can determine league fees but our intention has always been to make snooker as cheap and accessible as possible and that we are still on target for a league fee free at our next anniversary.

The e-mail addresses for the league (and Secretary): [email protected] plus the current league website address of www.kadasl.com and the new league website address www.leaguesnooker.co.uk will remain on the minutes of each meeting as an easy reference point for all.


Monday 20th October 2014 at 7pm at Mere


Mobberley Victory Hall Memorial Club – Thursday 24 th April 2014 Attendance: (35 listed):

Officers (3) - President – Sid Jones (SJ -not present); Vice-President - Geoff Jackson (GJ – not present); Chair – Steve Power (SP - present); Secretary – Tony Crompton (TC - present); Treasurer – Dave Nuttall (DN - present); Trophy & Competitions Secretary – Tony Crompton (TC - present).

Brook Street (12) – Carl Prince, Steve Power, Chris Parker, Ashley Parker, Adrian Hough, Francis Evans, Simon Nixon, Harold Cox, Andy Long, Steve Prosser, Bob Jones and Martin Sharpe

Mere (2) – Tom Jackson and John Jackson

Morley (4) – Paul Hart, Derek Stubbs, Steve Stubbs and Graham Walls

Mobberley (14) – Dave Taylor, Tony Crompton, Mike Roylance, Mark Newall, Steve Flinders, Paul Adkin, Jeff Gorton, Bruce Tulley, Chris McNeil, Mike Gittins, Wayne Hammond, Mervyn Pike, Will Cowley and Adam McNeil

Royal London (1) – Alan Beeley

Shaw Heath (0) – None

Tatton (0) – None

Wilmslow Cons (2) – Dave Nuttall and Richard Bayley

Wilmslow RBL (0) – None


SP opened the meeting explaining that the Chair for the meeting would have been initially handed to the President Sid Jones for his opening comments and then handed back to him but that in Sid’s absence, due to illness, he would now hand over the Chair to Geoff Jackson the Vice-President for his comments.


Geoff Jackson was unable to attend the meeting and had apologised in advance. TC had received a statement from him which he then read out:

It is with much sadness that once again our President Sid Jones is unable to forward any comments to the Secretary to raise on his behalf but that said, it gives me much pleasure, as Vice-President of the League, to welcome you all to this AGM and prize presentation evening. I will keep my opening remarks brief so I’ll finish by personally thanking the other officers, particularly Tony, for their help, work and guidance once again and even though we have had to deal with a number of difficult decision's this season I am happy that the league continues to be in a strong position as a quick glance at surrounding leagues will show. Thank you and enjoy the evening.


The Secretary ensured that all present (to vote) are listed on the attendance sheet, are members and accepts apologies for those absent.

Apologies received from: Geoff Jackson; Jonathan Smith; Gary Long; Mike Sullivan;



At that first Management Meeting, the AGM minutes were accepted as a true and accurate account of the AGM, by those present, and any matters arising were dealt with at that meeting.

It has been agreed for many seasons now that the Secretary would not produce hard copies of minutes at either AGM ’s or Management Meetings as they are always available on the league web site the day after each meeting for anyone to print off, access or read.


The Secretary said that at the first management meeting after the last AGM, any matters arising were dealt with; the minutes of the AGM were accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting by those present and duly placed on the league web site as already stated at item 4 above.

6 Report by Chair

The Chair said: I'd like to personally thank everyone for attending tonight and to congratulate, in advance, all those who have contributed to the season in any way, especially the winners.

For the officers of the league, as ever, it’s been another busy one. I would personally like to thank all the other officers for their efforts. The amount of work that they do on behalf of the league is significantly greater than anything I have to do. Thanks must go to Tony for stepping in to support all the competitions.

The league continues to progress but even though we have a rich history we need to realise the challenges we face going forward and remember that the most important season is always the current one - or in the close season, the next one. If that season fails then all the history counts for nothing. We need to do everything we can for the greater good of the league.

I don't want to cover ground that will be covered later by the other officers but I would like to highlight a few key points. Financially the league continues to be very healthy and testament to this is the fact that even if there is a reduction in league income due to the reduction in the number of teams there is no risk to the season to season, week to week operation of the league. Dave will explore this further. The competition schedule has been extremely well managed by Tony as have the league website updates – that is mainly thanks to the texts and emails of cards being sent through immediately to Tony on the night. Season 2014-5 will again present some real challenges for the league and I’m sure the August league formation meeting will deal efficiently as ever with them. Thanks to all the players in the entire league and competition sections, thanks to the sponsors and thanks for turning out tonight.



The Treasurer said: Income has been reduced this year due to the loss of a 1st division team part way through the season but once again, this shortfall has in some way been matched by our Secretary purchasing some inexpensive, but quality, trophies from a source he found for us last season.

May I offer a big thank you to all those who paid their league fees on time as this does make my job so much easier; Having said that I’m unable to provide an exact final balance sheet as there are still some fees due and invoices to be paid. A screenshot of our current balance will be pasted into the minutes of this meeting by the Secretary.

Expenditure has been typical and we will be carrying forward a very positive balance to next year and I can report that we’re on track to providing a fee free year to commemorate our 65th season.



TC reported:

It is now 13 season’s since I was elected as League Secretary and I’m very glad to report that in relative terms the season has been a trouble-free one. We did lose Shaw Heath A mid-term but their remaining team does now have a far more solid base than before which should ensure they remaain in the league for longer now.

I have already been told that Wilmslow Cons B are not entering the league next season and hopefully the issues of the lifetime banning of Peter and John O’Neill from Wilmslow RBL will not result in the loss of that team too. That said, the well-being and enjoyment of the other 250 members of the league will always be more important than the views of a few.

As usual I will conclude my report, by thanking a few people and I make no apology for extensively repeating myself from previous seasons because I still mean every word:

Steve Power continues to steer the meetings comfortably and sensibly whilst Dave Nuttall continues to guide us well and prudently as our Treasurer. Unfortunately, Geoff Jackson was unable to fulfil his new role of Trophy & Competitions Secretary but, I’m glad to say, he has stayed on as Vice-President to steer us along.

The captains who run the teams each week. Without you, teams do not function, I know it comes with it’s own stresses, trials and tribulations but I want you to know that I do appreciate what you do – it may not seem like it sometimes when I enforce the various league rules but I do!

The club reps who have attended the management meetings in their own time and without reward and without whom the league would quickly grind to a halt. This group of club reps are a real bonus for our league and ensure that decisions are made sensibly with the views of all clubs heard and considered.

The member clubs for allowing us to access their facilities for competitions and events. Particularly my own Mobberley Victory Hall Memorial Club for hosting tonight’s AGM. Without the venues there is no league – and we do need to be mindful of that point.

You. ‘The Players’. I say it every year but I really do mean that every team and every player in this league has equal value to me. You, the players, are the people who make the league. Thank you and see you all next season.


TC said:

Geoff Jackson had resigned during the season as he felt unable to fulfil the role and he had once again stepped in and ensured all requirements were completed. We have had some excellent competitions this season and we will be presenting all the league winners with their awards after the end of this AGM using a similar format from last season’s AGM. To remind you, we will ask all present from the various member clubs to gather around their team presentation table and I will announce each table’s achievements in turn whilst all the other clubs acknowledge those achievements. Some food will be available after the presentations to round off another great season. Thank you.



Carried unanimously – all in favour, none against, no abstentions.


President; Sid JonesVice-President: Geoff JacksonChairperson; Steve PowerVice-Chairperson; League Secretary as requiredSecretary; Tony CromptonTrophy & Competitions Secretary; Dave NuttallTreasurer; Dave Nuttall


Dave Nuttall is the only name received for the vacant post of Trophy / Competition Secretary. A vote then took place (all in favour; none against; no abstentions – vote carried) and Dave Nuttall was duly appointed to the post.


None.


To delete the first part of rule 25.2 which reads: ‘Regular team players may only play for another club team that is placed below them in the league if they have lost more league games than they have won at that point.’

And replace it with a new rule 25.2 stating:

‘At the pre-season meeting, clubs will register a minimum of 7 players per team (who are not tied to a team) per division (if applicable). Any other players registered will be classed as ‘reserves’ who will be infrequent players and who can play for any team at any time when the first named ‘divisional’ players are unavailable. Any disputes regarding the eligibility of any such player should be raised with the Secretary for the next League Meeting to discuss.’

The management committee hoped that this will assist all clubs in being able to field a full team each week and still retain the ability to refer any suspected ‘underhandedness’ to the committee for a decision.

A vote then took place: 13 in favour; 13 against; 5 abstentions. With the vote tied, the Chair has a second and casting vote. The Chair voted in favour of the change with a caviat that he would ensure that the league management committee closely monitors its implimentation and use.

14 Date of Next AGM

To be set at the August pre-season Management Committee Meeting – it is due to be at Wilmslow Cons club on Thursday 23rd of April 2015.

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 24 th March 2014 at Brook Street club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) Competition / Trophy Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Steve Prosser & Steve Power Mere: Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: Steve Stubbs Royal London: None Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Rob Clarke Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall Wilmslow RBL: None


Andy Long



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by GJ and Seconded by SM. All in favour, none

against and no abstentions.



None


No one present from Royal London or Wilmslow RBL – point deducted for non-attendance.

New registrations (reminder that now we are in the New Year, all new registrations must be made with the League Secretary BEFORE playing the player):

Brook Street – None Mere – Simon Lowndes, Mark Bushell and Peter Jackson Mobberley – None Morley – None Royal London – None Shaw Heath – None Tatton – None Wilmslow Cons – None Wilmslow RBL – None


TC had been informed by Will Bell (WB) of Wilmslow Cons B that they are not entering a team in the league next season (probably transferring to the Wilmslow League).

TC raised an issue regarding Peter (PO) and John O’Neill (JO) of RBL. After the 13.3.14 match between Mobberley B and RBL, TC had called into Mobberley to collect the cards and was greeted by a very abusive PO and later JO accusing TC of having seeked out a league rule in order to eject JO and his partner from the JME Pairs in order to make personal gain. (See item 7 below also) ie so that TC could get into the semi-finals and win the competition. Despite being told that was not the case both PO and JO continued to abuse TC and eventually said that the league was a joke; the handicaps are pathetic; they were both withdrawing from the Taylor Trophy; and their team would be withdrawing from the league next season. TC said that this was the 3 rd incident of its kind that he had had with JO and he was not prepared to continue dealing with these players. TC added that he in particular – in rewriting fixtures, liaising with clubs etc etc – and the league in general had been more than lenient with the players in the past despite them being on a warning from the league since 2011 which stated (identically to both players):

10.10.11 Management Meeting - Decision for Peter O’Neil and Decision for John O’Neil: The player will be banned from the league for life should any future complaint be upheld against him. There is no time limit on this ‘suspended penalty’. All in favour, none against, 2 abstentions (Mobberley and Morley)

After lengthy discussion it was agreed unanimously that John and Peter O’Neill had both used aggressive and abusive language and behaviour on a number of separate occasions and all the complaints raised by clubs were upheld. In view of this, GJ proposed: ‘That the complaints of aggressive and abusive language and behaviour by John and Peter O’Neill having been upheld by this meeting, triggers the decision of the 10.10.11 Management Meeting where the decision for Peter O’Neill and John O’Neill stated that the player(s) will be banned from the league for life should any future complaint be upheld against them. They should be banned

from the league for life now’. SS seconded the proposal. There were no counter proposals. A vote then took place: 5 in favour, none against, 2 abstentions (Mobberley and Wilmslow Cons). Proposal carried; John and Peter O’Neill are now no longer members of the league and barred for life.


TC said that Geoff Jackson had emailed him on the 20.2.14 to say: “Hi Tony, my apologies for not sorting out the Redwood finals, I must have misread the text assuming you meant with you and Dave there you would sort it. I asked to do comps job but feel it’s not for me. You have covered the position with no help from me and I again apologise for increasing your workload. I wish to resign from the position of Competition Secretary as I have not taken to the job. Of course I will not accept any Honoraria as I have not fulfilled any part of the position. Geoff”.

TC had continued in the position and GJ has agreed that TC should receive any Honoraria due.

TC said that DN has put his name forward for the position for next season and this will be dealt with at the AGM.


TC updated all on the progress of competitions to date and the issues identified with the league statistical website which (only when a pair are the same) changes the pairs handicap each time they are entered. This is another fault with the site and emphasises the often repeated advice of TC that all clubs MUST display the www.kadasl.com competitions details on their noticeboards as it is CORRECT.

The proceeds from the Team KO Cup matches this season will be donated to a cancer charity.

TC said that it had been brought to his attention whilst visiting RBL and Wilmslow Cons to put up a competitions list, that John O’Neill (JO) had played the last 16 and QF of the JME Pairs with an ineligible player (James Coggins - JG). James had only played 1 match this season in contravention of rule 41.1 Players must have played at least 3 times in the league in the current season to qualify for the last 16 round onwards of any competition; 41.2 Any player who has not played the required 3 games by the last 16 round of any competition will be removed from the draw and may be replaced by players they beat in previous rounds; This had resulted in TC informing JO that they had been eliminated from the competition; Tom & John Jackson put through to the QF by default; TC & Steve Bond playing the Jacksons in the QF; and the winners of that match (TC & SB) replacing JO and JG in the semi-finals.

TC said that at the end of the season he will allocate every player from this season, a handicap based on their results this year. No handicap system is foolproof but at least this reflects current form / ability. Only players new to the league (or returning) will have a current handicap allocated to them by the Competitions / Trophies secretary.

Handicaps will only be used for handicap competitions and the Trophy / Comps Secretary will also retain personal flexibility (by one bracket) in allocating handicaps.

Division 1: 70% or above = 0; 60-69% = 5; 50-59% = 10; 40-49% = 15; 39% or less = 20

Division 2: 70% or above = 15; ; 60-69% = 20; 50-59% = 25; 40-49% = 30; 39% or less = 35

8 - Treasurer



£25 was donated to Macmillans at Kevin Shackleton’s funeral on behalf of the league.

http://www.kadasl.com/

The final league fees are slow to arrive agin – all to ensure they are paid immediately now.


TC said he’d contacted by the Secretary of the Wilmslow Snooker League and informed him of the committee decision not to pursue amalgamating with their league but to also approach some of their local captains to see if they were interested in joining our league as well as (not in preference to) their own.

TC said that the AGM / Presentation night will be similar to last season’s but he will announce the winners, runners-up, semi-finalists then teams up to their prize tables. Although slightly slower he was mindful that the very successful Mobberley players last season weren’t given as much recognition on the night as they deserved because of the previous ‘en masse’ presentation method.

The e-mail addresses for the league (and Secretary): [email protected] plus the league website address of www.kadasl.com and the league statistical website address www.leaguesnooker.co.uk will remain on the minutes of each meeting as an easy reference point for all.

SP confirmed with DN that he would be (if agreed at the AGM) Treasurer and the Trophy / Competitions Secretary.

SP confirmed with GJ that he will be continuing as League Vice-President.

A lengthy discussion took place regarding the ‘player short’ and ‘playing up’ rules and the unanimous approach of all league clubs that we want to have as many fulls teams playing each week as possible. To that end, it was eventually agreed unanimously to put a Committee proposal to the AGM stating: ‘At the pre-season meeting, clubs will register a minimum of 7 players per team (not tied to a team) per division (if applicable). Any other players will be classed as ‘reserves’ who will be infrequent players and who can play for any team at any time when the first named ‘divisional’ players are unavailable’


Thursday 24th April – AGM & Prize presentations from 8pm at Mobberley Victory Hall Memorial Club

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Registered players 2013-4:

Brook Street

Adrian Hough / Adrian Smith / Andy Long / Ashley Parker / Bob Jones / Carl Prince / Chris Parker / Gary Long / Harold Cox / John Prince / Mark Murphy / Martin Sharpe / Neil Greer / Rick Peers / Sam Pointon / Simon Nixon / Steve Power / Steve Prosser

Mere

Alan Greenaway / Alan Henshaw / Alec Wright / Allen Jackson / Antony Jackson / Arthur Hasford / Chris Bushell / Daniel Pollard / David Jackson / David Simcock / Eddie Wakefield / Geoff Jackson / Geoff Owen / Jack Bushell / Jamie Flood / John Owen / John Jackson / Joe Gates / Mark Bushell / Matthew Owen / Peter Jackson / Philip Simpson / Richard Owen / Sam Jackson / Sam Riley / Sid Jones / Simon Lowndes / Steven Bloor / Syd Antrobus / Terry Riley / Thomas Jackson / Will Blackburn / Will Bushell

Mobberley

http://www.leaguesnooker.co.uk/



Adam McNeil / Alan Williams / Bob Spilsbury / Brian Lomas / Bruce Tulley / Chris Clarke / Chris McNeil / Dave Taylor / Dennis Robinson / Derek Street / Francis Evans / Gary Hammond / Geoff Taylor / Harry Halsall / Herbert Hope / Ian Paton / Jeff Gorton / John Percival / Josh Street / Kevin Harrison / Kevin Holman / Leung Yu / Luke Bevans / Mark Newall / Mervyn Pike / Mike Gittins / Mike Roylance / Nick Brown / Nigel Hodson / Paul Adkin / Paul Hodson / Peter Hargreaves / Peter Turner / Phil Willocks / Ralph Waite / Robert Spilsbury / Scott Mills / Steve Bond / Steve Flinders / Terry Norman / Tony Crompton / Wayne Hammond

Morley

Dave Moores / David Coates / Derek Stubbs / Gareth Clayton / George Antrobus / Graham Walls / Jason Robinson / Nigel Woodall / Paul Hart / Rob Antrobus / Seb Jackson / Steve Stubbs / Will Bennett

Royal London

Alan Beeley / Greg Jennings / James Nash / John Goldsmith / Mark Baker / Paul Beeley / Pete Hodge / Rick Goldsmith / Steve Barnes / Steven Sharples / Tim Carragher

Shaw Heath

Andy Yates / Bradley Williams / Chris Jackson / Dan Jones / Dave Mullins / Dave Rainford / Gareth Williams / James West / Jamie Way / John Dale / Leighton Lathrope / Mark Evans / Mark Jenyons / Nathan Weightman / Richard Hammond / Ryan Cowley / Sandy Stockton / Scott Marshall / Steve Jenyons / Vic Mullins / Will Cowley

Tatton

Alan Conkleton / Dave Blackburn / Drew McAra / Ian Snelson / James Phillipson / John Peet / Keith Roden / Paul Townsend / Peter Cowley / Phil Roden / Rob Clarke / Steve Jackson

Wilmslow Cons

Alan Hardy / Alan Potts / Alan Sutton / Andy Stott / Charlie Williams / David Nuttall / Dave Wilkinson / Dave Williamson / David Slater / Frank Griffith / Glyn Batten / Graham Kitson / Howard Blankley / Ian Clark / Irvine MacDonald / Jim Sinclair / John Higgins / John Williams / Jonathan Smith / Kevin Shackleton / Marc O’Brien / Mark Anderson / Mike Sullivan / Peter Stakes / Peter Watson / Phil Butcher / Phil Lever / Ralph Robertson / Richard Bayley / Roy Keats / Victor Boughey / Will Bell

Wilmslow Royal British Legion

Andy Kelly / Brendan Townsend / Brian Bates / Carl Brookfield / Dave Wallington / David McClure / Jake O’Neill / James Coggins / Joe Street / John O’Neill / Paul McGilvray / Peter O’Neill / Wayne Wickenden


Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Brook Street, Mere, Mobberley, Morley, Shaw Heath

AGM rota:

Mobberley, Wilmslow Cons (65th Anniversary), Morley, Shaw Heath, Brook Street, Wilmslow RBL, Mere

Life Members



LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 13 th January 2014 at 8pm at Wilmslow Cons

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) Apologies Competition / Trophy Secretary: Geoff Jackson (GJ) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Andy Long Mere: Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: Paul Hart Royal London: None present Shaw Heath: Scott Marshall Tatton: Paul Townsend Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall Wilmslow RBL: John O’Neill / Jake O’Neill / Peter O’Neill


Steve Power



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Andy Long and Seconded by John O’Neill. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


No one present from Royal London – point deducted for non-attendance.

New registrations (reminder that now we are in the New Year, all new registrations must be made with the League Secretary BEFORE playing the player):

Brook Street – None Mere – John Owen Mobberley – Nick Brown, Gary Hammond Morley – None Royal London – John Goldsmith Shaw Heath – Dan Jones Tatton – None Wilmslow Cons – Alan Sutton Wilmslow RBL – Wayne Wickenden


TC informed all that after their match on the 12.12.13, Shaw Heath A withdrew from the league. Their captain Will Cowley (WC) texted the decision after consultation with his team and WC, Ryan Cowley and Nathan Weightman have now transferred to Mobberley club. The league table has had all Shaw Heath A results removed and been updated. The team has been replaced by a bye week and they have been removed from the Team KO cup. The only issue will be the averages winner for division 1 and TC will address that at season end rather than delete, change, alter the many entries involved now.

The format for next season will therefore be (assuming all remaining teams reenter) division 1 with 10 teams playing 3 rotations of 9 matches = 27 each. Division 2 will have 8 teams in playing 4 rotations of 7 matches. TC has already prepared the fixtures. It was further agreed that Shaw Heath, after years of having 1, 2 or zero teams in the league need to find their league feet again and remain with 1 solid team for the forseeable future.

An unacceptable and unsavoury incident happened at the Royal London versus Shaw Heath B match on the 12.12.13 James Nash and Alan Beeley of Royal London reported the matter on the night to TC who came out of his match to resolve it. JN and AB state in brief:

James Nash (JN and Royal London) is playing Mark Jenyons (MJ and Shaw Heath B). It is nearing the end of the frame when MJ seems to lose the plot and says to JN: “You are the prick that reported me aren’t you?” JN ignored the comment and continued the frame. MJ then chipped the white of the table and JN potted the pink and the black to finish the frame. MJ continued to throw abuse at JN and threatened to kill JN and his family. Told JN to “suck his dick” and “I’m going to shag your wife ‘cos I’ve got a bigger dick and she will enjoy it”. He then told JN that he was going to wait outside for JN and asked him where he lives so he can come meet JN to “kick his head in”. MJ then told JN that he wanted him to buy him a drink, and JN advised MJ that Royal London has no bar to which MJ demanded the money instead – which JN refused to give him. Eventually one of the Shaw Heath team coerced MJ to leave the club but on leaving with his team mate, he then became violent with that team mate by pushing him against the wall and asking everyone in the room “who wants some” which JN and the Royal London team took to mean violence. He eventually left the room, clubhouse and site. JN was on the cusp of calling for the site security to deal with the matter but it was resolved (of sorts) just prior to making the call.

Alan Beeley (AB of Royal London) sent JN an email later the same night after the match (précis):

James, Just thought I'd jot down my thoughts and memories from tonight. James played first against Mr Jenyons and I refereed. There was one incident, late on in the game, whereby James apparently fouled on the yellow, whilst potting a red (no other score was made i.e. 1 scored). I didn't notice this but, apparently some of his team mates did. He queried this foul with me a few shots later, and I told him that I hadn't seen a foul and apologised if it had been. He admitted that he hadn't seen it himself and I do not believe that this had a detrimental effect on the result of the game. The match on table 2 finished well before this game and, indeed, the 3rd match was also played to a conclusion on this table. This meant that I had to hand the refereeing over to Rick (?) as I was down to play at No 4. In this first match they were just on the colours, or thereabouts, with James still well in front on points (around 15 in front?) Incident After I had started my match there was suddenly a commotion on Table 1 and Jenyons suddenly started shouting to James that 'he was the one who had reported him to the League Secretary', cursing and swearing, and promptly smashed the white into the pink and off the table. He was swaying about, obviously the worse for wear on drink, and proceeded to launch a tirade of abuse towards

James. James managed to stay calm throughout and, indeed, potted the pink and black to finish the match. Comments made, that I recall : He intimated that James should go outside and he'd 'sort him out'. He threatened to shag James 'wife' because he said he had a bigger dick and she'd enjoy it. I tried to get his team mates to sort him out and take him outside. Only one member tried but he was brushed aside and the tirade continued unabated. He asked if James lived in Wilmslow and he'd call round and 'sort him out'. I tried to calm him down but was told in no uncertain terms to butt out. He then demanded to be given a drink, which James politely declined and explained that we didn't have a bar (which he well knew), and he aggressively confronted James and demanded money instead. He had to be dragged away by his team mates. He eventually managed to gather his cue and personal items together and stagger out, accompanied by a team mate, all the time making foul and abusive language towards James. Whilst collecting his cue, he vigorously pushed at one of his own team mates, almost knocking him off his feet, and causing a fracas amongst them.

TC said he had texted the Shaw Heath B captain on the night in response to receiving their match card by text – which made no comment of the incident. TC texted: “We need to speak re Mark tomorrow. He is not to be selected again until after the January 13th league meeting when his membership of the league will be discussed.

The following day, 13.12.13, TC called to speak to Scott Marshall (SM) the Shaw Heath B captain and there was no reply. TC left a voicemail on SM’s phone which informed him that at the League Management meeting of the 13th of January 2014 there will be a discussion about the incident where under league rule 4 .1 “The committee will have the power to deal with all offending clubs, teams or players as it sees fit”; and rule 4.2 “All protests shall be lodged in writing to the league Secretary within 14 days of the meeting at which the decision, on which the appeal is based, was made”.

SM called TC back and agreed the accounts offered by the Royal London players and whilst MJ had realised his wrongdoing immediately after the incident en route home, he agreed that none of the team could condone his behaviour.

A discussion then followed and it was agreed to ban Mark Jenyons immediately from the league until the end of the season. He will only be considered again for membership of the league upon receipt, by the Secretary, of a written apology to the league, Royal London club and James Nash. All in favour; none against; no abstentions. Under rule 4.2 “All protests shall be lodged in writing to the league Secretary within 14 days of the meeting at which the decision, on which the appeal is based, was made”, MJ has a right to appeal and TC will inform all of receipt / non-receipt in 15 days.

Further, it was agreed that his record prior to the incident should stand – although should he be eligible for any trophies, he would have to get someone else to collect them from the AGM / presentation evening.


11. TC said that Derek Street, captain of Mobberley D, had contacted him regarding the awful state of the snooker room at Morley for their Team KO cup match on the 2nd of January. There were tables, chairs etc everywhere and both tables were uncovered and covered in debris and dust – it appeared that some decorating had gone on. It was agreed unanimously that this is unacceptable and every club should afford every team the same courtesy. It was further agreed that some captains do not convey all the league information to their clubs and this must be done. Hopefully there will be no repeat.


TC updated in saying that all competitions were running well so far with very few ‘no shows’. He did, however, comment that one player had dropped out of the division one redwood qualifiers at the last minute and the division 2 group had been supplemented by ‘runners-up’ from division one team comps. He suggested that next season the competition changes to a ‘top player’ style competition with the top 12 division one players and the top 4 division 2 players. After lengthy discussion it was agreed that the event would become an invitational competition from 2014-5 onwards. The top averages player for each team (based upon those taken immediately before the draw is made) would be invited and if unavailable, the next player in the list. If a team is completely

unavailable / unwilling to enter, no replacements will be put into the draw and the competition will take place ‘as is’.

GJ accepted entries, and then made the draws, for the JME Alternate Pairs, Taylor Trophy, 6 Reds and 3 Player competitions.

TC said that he would have the draws up on the website within 24 hours and reminded all to note that the ‘statistical’ website does not have a facility to leave blank spaces and therefore it was VITAL that club reps print off the draws from the ‘old’ site at www.kadasl.co.uk and display them in their clubs.

8 - Treasurer


Shaw Heath A, who have now dropped out of the league, have paid their league fees up to date.

RBL paid their fees to DN at the meeting.

Current league balance is £4,199-52 which he will continue to monitor.


TC said he’d been contacted by the Secretary of the Wilmslow Snooker League with a view so some or all of our teams entering their league. TC said he’d raise the matter tonight and the idea was rejected unanimously. PH suggested that we in fact, approach Wilmslow League teams to see if they wish to enter a team into our league. PH to forward details to TC to consider an approach and to inform their league secretary.

TC raised the issue of the ‘referees night’ which DN has been trying to arrange with Steve Starkie. It was decided to abandon the idea and to arrange an evening ourselves. TC and DN to discuss further.

JO said that they will complete the season at RBL but due to in-house issues of disrespect for the snooker team, they will be moving to Wilmslow Cons (agreed with Wilmslow Cons club) from next season.

The e-mail addresses for the league (and Secretary): [email protected] plus the league website address of www.kadasl.com and the league statistical website address www.leaguesnooker.co.uk will remain on the minutes of each meeting as an easy reference point for all.

Some players and officers are still using the old [email protected] address for a variety of league matters. TC said that from this point forward, no emails from that address will be checked by him and all correspondence must go to [email protected].


Monday 24th March 2014 at 8pm at Brook Street and NOT Wilmslow RBL club

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Brook Street






http://www.kadasl.co.uk/

Mere

Alan Greenaway / Alan Henshaw / Alec Wright / Allen Jackson / Antony Jackson / Arthur Hasford / Chris Bushell / Daniel Pollard / David Jackson / David Simcock / Eddie Wakefield / Geoff Jackson / Geoff Owen / Jack Bushell / Jamie Flood / John Owen / John Jackson / Joe Gates / Matthew Owen / Philip Simpson / Richard Owen / Sam Jackson / Sam Riley / Sid Jones / Steven Bloor / Syd Antrobus / Terry Riley / Thomas Jackson / Will Blackburn / Will Bushell

Mobberley

Adam McNeil / Alan Williams / Bob Spilsbury / Brian Lomas / Bruce Tulley / Chris Clarke / Chris McNeil / Dave Taylor / Dennis Robinson / Derek Street / Francis Evans / Gary Hammond / Geoff Taylor / Harry Halsall / Herbert Hope / Ian Paton / Jeff Gorton / John Percival / Josh Street / Kevin Harrison / Kevin Holman / Leung Yu / Luke Bevans / Mark Newall / Mervyn Pike / Mike Gittins / Mike Roylance / Nick Brown / Nigel Hodson / Paul Adkin / Paul Hodson / Peter Hargreaves / Peter Turner / Phil Willocks / Ralph Waite / Robert Spilsbury / Scott Mills / Steve Bond / Steve Flinders / Terry Norman / Tony Crompton / Wayne Hammond

Morley


Royal London

Alan Beeley / Greg Jennings / James Nash / John Goldsmith / Mark Baker / Paul Beeley / Pete Hodge / Rick Goldsmith / Steve Barnes / Steven Sharples / Tim Carragher

Shaw Heath

Andy Yates / Bradley Williams / Chris Jackson / Dan Jones / Dave Mullins / Dave Rainford / Gareth Williams / James West / Jamie Way / John Dale / Leighton Lathrope / Mark Evans / Mark Jenyons / Nathan Weightman / Richard Hammond / Ryan Cowley / Sandy Stockton / Scott Marshall / Steve Jenyons / Vic Mullins / Will Cowley

Tatton


Wilmslow Cons

Alan Hardy / Alan Potts / Alan Sutton / Andy Stott / Charlie Williams / David Nuttall / Dave Wilkinson / Dave Williamson / David Slater / Frank Griffith / Glyn Batten / Graham Kitson / Howard Blankley / Ian Clark / Irvine MacDonald / Jim Sinclair / John Higgins / John Williams / Jonathan Smith / Kevin Shackleton / Marc O’Brien / Mark Anderson / Mike Sullivan / Peter Stakes / Peter Watson / Phil Butcher / Phil Lever / Ralph Robertson / Richard Bayley / Roy Keats / Victor Boughey / Will Bell


Andy Kelly / Brendan Townsend / Brian Bates / Carl Brookfield / Dave Wallington / David McClure / Jake O’Neill / James Coggins / Joe Street / John O’Neill / Paul McGilvray / Peter O’Neill / Wayne Wickenden



AGM rota:


Life Members



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LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 21 st October 2013 at Shaw Heath

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton (TC) Chairperson: Steve Power (SP) Competition / Trophy Secretary: Geoff Jackson (GJ) Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (DN) President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson (GJ)

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Steve Power / Andy Long Mere: Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton / Derek Street Morley: None Royal London: Alan Beeley Shaw Heath: Will Cowley Tatton: Paul Townsend Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall Wilmslow RBL: John O’Neill / Jake O’Neill / Brendan Townsend


None received



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Paul Townsend and Seconded by John O’Neill. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


Brook Street – Harold Cox Mere – Alan Henshaw, David Simcock, Jack Bushell and Steven Bloor Mobberley – Mike Roylance and Ralph Waite Morley – Gareth Clayton, Graham Walls and Dave Moores Royal London – Paul Beeley Shaw Heath – Ryan Cowley Tatton – None Wilmslow Cons – Phil Butcher, John Williams, Dave Williamson, Victor Boughey, Phil Lever and Roy Keats Wilmslow RBL – Brian Bates, Paul McGilvray and David McClure

All agreed as registered members for the 2013-4 season.


12. TC said that he had received a request to remove players from team lists on the ‘statistical website’ if they hadn’t played. This has been done. It does not affect their registrations.


GJ accepted entries, and then made the draws, for the Jay, Rotary, Bert Astles Pairs and Team KO cup competitions.

TC said that he would have the draws up on the website within 24 hours and reminded all to note that the ‘statistical’ website does not have a facility to leave blank spaces and therefore it was VITAL that club reps print off the draws from the ‘old’ site at www.kadasl.co.uk and display them in their clubs.

8 - Treasurer

DN said there was little to report beyond his comments at the AGM:

The statistical web site fee had been paid and the first quarter league fee invoices had been sent out (to be paid by the 10.11.13). DN reminded all that late payment will be penalised by any sanction agreed by the committee at our next meeting.



AL said that he was disappointed with the appearance of the flat history plaques at Mobberley’s league history wall. After discussion he agreed to try to source the ‘older style’ ones and bring a price to the next meeting for discussion.

The e-mail addresses for the league (and Secretary): [email protected] or [email protected] plus the current league website address of www.kadasl.com and the new league website address www.leaguesnooker.co.uk will remain on the minutes of each meeting as an easy reference point for all.





Monday 13th of January 2014 at 8pm at Wilmslow Cons club

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Brook Street


Mere

Alan Greenaway / Alan Henshaw / Alec Wright / Allen Jackson / Antony Jackson / Arthur Hasford / Chris Bushell / Daniel Pollard / David Jackson / David Simcock / Eddie Wakefield / Geoff Jackson / Geoff Owen / Jack Bushell / Jamie Flood / John Jackson / Joe Gates / Matthew Owen / Philip Simpson / Richard Owen / Sam Jackson / Sam Riley / Sid Jones / Steven Bloor / Syd Antrobus / Terry Riley / Thomas Jackson / Will Blackburn / Will Bushell

Mobberley

Adam McNeil / Alan Williams / Bob Spilsbury / Brian Lomas / Bruce Tulley / Chris Clarke / Chris McNeil / Dave Taylor / Dennis Robinson / Derek Street / Francis Evans / Geoff Taylor / Harry Halsall / Herbert Hope / Ian Paton / Jeff Gorton / John Percival / Josh Street / Kevin Harrison / Kevin Holman / Leung Yu / Luke Bevans / Mark Newall / Mervyn Pike / Mike Gittins / Mike Roylance / Nigel Hodson / Paul Adkin / Paul Hodson / Peter Hargreaves / Peter Turner / Phil Willocks / Ralph Waite / Robert Spilsbury / Scott Mills / Steve Bond / Steve Flinders / Terry Norman / Tony Crompton / Wayne Hammond

Morley


Royal London

Alan Beeley / Greg Jennings / James Nash / Mark Baker / Paul Beeley / Pete Hodge / Rick Goldsmith / Steve Barnes / Steven Sharples / Tim Carragher

Shaw Heath

Andy Yates / Bradley Williams / Chris Jackson / Dave Mullins / Dave Rainford / Gareth Williams / James West / Jamie Way / John Dale / Leighton Lathrope / Mark Evans / Mark Jenyons / Nathan Weightman / Richard Hammond / Ryan Cowley / Sandy Stockton / Scott Marshall / Steve Jenyons / Vic Mullins / Will Cowley

Tatton


Wilmslow Cons

Alan Hardy / Alan Potts / Andy Stott / Charlie Williams / David Nuttall / Dave Wilkinson / Dave Williamson / David Slater / Frank Griffith / Glyn Batten / Graham Kitson / Howard Blankley / Ian Clark / Irvine MacDonald / Jim Sinclair / John Higgins / John Williams / Jonathan Smith / Kevin Shackleton / Marc O’Brien / Mark

Anderson / Mike Sullivan / Peter Stakes / Peter Watson / Phil Butcher / Phil Lever / Ralph Robertson / Richard Bayley / Roy Keats / Victor Boughey / Will Bell


Andy Kelly / Brendan Townsend / Brian Bates / Carl Brookfield / Dave Wallington / David McClure / Jake O’Neill / James Coggins / Joe Street / John O’Neill / Paul McGilvray / Peter O’Neill



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Life Members



LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE and LEAGUE FORMATION MEETING for the 2013-4 SEASON on Monday 8 th August 2013 at Morley

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton Chairperson: Steve Power Competition / Trophy Secretary: Geoff Jackson Treasurer: Dave Nuttall President: Sid Jones (Not present) Vice-President: Geoff Jackson

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Steve Power / Bob Jones Mere: Geoff Jackson Mobberley: Tony Crompton Morley: Paul Hart Royal London: None present Shaw Heath: Will Cowley / James West Tatton: Paul Townsend Wilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall Wilmslow RBL: John O’Neill / Jake O’Neill


Andy Long & Tom Jackson



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by John O’Neill and Seconded by Paul Townsend. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.




Rule 15.5 has changed from: ‘Teams playing in the first division will play on Thursday nights with the possible exception of where there are more than 2 teams from that club in that division’ to: ‘Teams playing in the first division will normally play on Thursday nights. Exceptions may be made to ensure the continuity and smooth running of the league’

Rule 32.1 has been changed from including “cards to reach the Secretary by 4pm on Monday following the match” to read “Both captains must ensure that their score cards reach the League Secretary no later than 24 hours after the conclusion of their match” and finally:

Rule 32.2 was changed to read “Emails or text messages including a photo or scanned copy of the scorecards are acceptable proof of scores and personal delivery of cards to the home address of the Secretary are only accepted prior to 10.15pm”.


This meeting is effectively the league formation meeting and the Secretary therefore asked each club in turn to detail how many teams would be entered in the league for the 2012-13 season and then the captain’s details for each team entered.

The Secretary reminded all present that League rule 5.5 states: “The management committee will vote to accept or reject any such teams and names presented and, as those rejected will not be part of the new season’s league and thereby subject to it’s rules, there will be no right to appeal on said decision” and further added that all captains are reminded of their personal, team and club responsibilities so that issues, incidents and other matters brought to the committees attention last season do not arise again this year as such matters will be dealt with expeditiously and seriously:

Brook Street – 2 teams – A team captain Andy Long; B team – Ashley Parker

Mere – 3 teams – A team - Geoff Owen; B team - Tom Jackson; C team - Philip Simpson

Mobberley – 5 teams – A team - Tony Crompton; B team - Wayne Hammond; C team - Ian Paton; D team - Derek Street; E team – Alan Williams

Morley – 1 team – Paul Hart

Royal London – 1 team – James Nash

Shaw Heath – 2 teams – A team – Will Cowley; B team - TBC

Tatton – 1 team – Paul Townsend

Wilmslow Cons - 3 teams – A team - Mike Sullivan; B team – Will Bell; C team – Ralph Robertson

Wilmslow RBL – 1 team – John O’Neill

With all existing teams (albeit Brook Street C / Knutsford Cons B are now Mobberley E) re-entering the league, as previously agreed, this season the league will be made up of 2 divisions with 10 teams in division 1 and 9 teams in division 2 playing each other in three cycles = 27 (or 24 + 3 bye weeks) of actual matches.

The meeting then progressed to the player registrations for the 2013-4 season (these will remain on each set of minutes for easy reference):


Brook Street

Adrian Hough / Adrian Smith / Andy Long / Ashley Parker / Bob Jones / Carl Prince / Chris Parker / Gary Long / John Prince / Mark Murphy / Martin Sharpe / Neil Greer / Rick Peers / Sam Pointon / Simon Nixon / Steve Power / Steve Prosser

No objections made to made of the above players joining the league for the 2013-4 season

Mere

Alan Greenaway / Alex Wright / Allen Jackson / Antony Jackson / Arthur Hasford / Chris Bushell / Daniel Pollard / David Jackson / Eddie Wakefield / Geoff Jackson / Geoff Owen / Jamie Flood / Jesse Oldfield / John Jackson / Joe Gates / Josh Flood / Matthew Owen / Philip Simpson / Richard Owen / Sam Jackson / Sam Riley / Sid Jones / Syd Antrobus / Terry Riley / Thomas Jackson / Will Blackburn / Will Bushell


Mobberley

Adam McNeil / Alan Williams / Bob Spilsbury / Brian Lomas / Bruce Tulley / Chris Clarke / Chris McNeil / Dave Taylor / Dennis Robinson / Derek Street / Francis Evans / Geoff Taylor / Harry Halsall / Herbert Hope / Ian Paton / Jeff Gorton / John Percival / Josh Street / Kevin Harrison / Kevin Holman / Leung Yu / Luke Bevans / Mark Newall / Mervyn Pike / Mike Gittins / Nigel Hodson / Paul Adkin / Paul Hodson / Peter Hargreaves / Peter Turner / Phil Willocks / Robert Spilsbury / Scott Mills / Steve Bond / Steve Flinders / Terry Norman / Tony Crompton / Wayne Hammond


Morley

David Coates / Derek Stubbs / George Antrobus / Jason Robinson / Nigel Woodall / Paul Hart / Rob Antrobus / Seb Jackson / Steve Stubbs / Will Bennett


Royal London

Adam Drinkwater / Alan Beeley / Andy Morris / Ben Harney / Daniel Dauer / Fred Harris / Greg Jennings / James Nash / Jeremy Straker / Mark Baker / Pete Hodge / Rick Goldsmith / Simon McMahon / Steve Barnes / Steven Sharples / Stuart Twibell / Tim Carragher


Shaw Heath

Andy Yates / Bradley Williams / Chris Jackson / Craig Wilson / Dave Jenyons / Dave MacDonald / Dave Mullins / Dave Rainford / Gareth Williams / Gary Twitchett / James West / Jamie Way / John Dale / Leighton Lathrope / Mark Evans / Mark Jenyons / Nathan Weightman / Richard Hammond / Sandy Stockton / Scott Marshall / Steve Jenyons / Will Cowley

No objections made to made of the above players joining the league for the 2013-4 season except Dave MacDonald who after a vote was unanimously rejected for membership for a period of 1 season and until an apology is received from him by the Secretary – all in favour bar one abstention (Tatton).

For info only: TC said that: “A Voicemail was left on my mobile number at 2225 on 020413 from 07825-137267 (Dave MacDonald’s number with people laughing in the background) Hi Tony it’s Dave (inaudible). Just to let you know I think you’re a complete bell end. You shouldn’t be running the league and you can carry your shit off. I would have beat you but I let you win. Se ya. Go fuck yourself”. Text from TC to above number sent 0706 on 030413 “Do not contact me again in any shape or form or I will refer it to the police. The league will deal with your message at its next meeting”.

Tatton

Alan Conkleton / Dave Blackburn / David Taylor / Drew McAra / Ian Hendry / Ian Snelson / James Phillipson / John Peet / Keith Roden / Paul Townsend / Peter Cowley / Phil Roden / Rob Clarke / Steve Jackson


Wilmslow Cons

Alan Hardy / Alan Potts / Andy Stott / Charlie Williams / David Nuttall / Dave Wilkinson / David Slater / Frank Griffith / Glyn Batten / Graham Kitson / Howard Blankley / Ian Clark / Irvine MacDonald / Jim Sinclair / John O’Brien / John Higgins / Jonathan Smith / Kevin Shackleton / Marc O’Brien / Mark Anderson / Mike Sullivan / Peter Stakes / Peter Watson / Ralph Robertson / Richard Bayley / Will Bell



Andy Kelly / Brendan Townsend / Carl Brookfield / Carl McCormack / Dave Wallington / Jake O’Neill / James Coggins / Joe Street / John O’Neill / Peter O’Neill / Steve Flannery


13. There will again be competition weeks inserted into the programme at intervals to ease the burden of competition nights and to spread the end of season ‘crush’.

14. Handicaps will be allocated after the first 9 week rotation which means we can again start the competitions soon afterwards.

15. Division 1 – Brook Street A, Mobberley A, Mobberley B, Mobberley C, Morley, Shaw Heath A, Tatton, Wilmslow Cons A, Wilmslow Cons B and Wilmslow RBL.

16. Division 2 – Brook Street B, Mere A, Mere B, Mere C, Mobberley D, Mobberley E, Royal London, Shaw Heath B and Wilmslow Cons C (plus a bye week).

17. No other disciplinary or dispute matters to discuss.


18. The Secretary said that he was sad to report to the members that Life Member of the league, and previous sponsor of the Redwood Hire Champions Trophy, Steve Redwood passed away suddenly on the 12 th of June. A brief discussion followed and it was agreed that the competition should remain in its present name as a memorial to Steve who, although not having played in the league for a few years, was an avid supporter of it and will be sadly missed by all who knew him and our support and thoughts go out to his nearest and dearest. The Secretary, and many other league members, attended his funeral to show our support. If a new sponsor for the event was found then the committee will discuss a way forward for their appropriate involvement.

19. The Treasurer had encountered issues receiving certain teams final season league fees once again and the league officers agreed to a debate on this avoidable and unnecessary matter. It was agreed that it is not up to the league to decide internal club matters but it is for the league – and this meeting – to determine what should be done when teams persist on not fulfilling their obligations to the league. It was suggested that league fee invoices be issued 4 times (every 7 weeks) this season. Those invoices would be issued to teams 2 weeks before each 7 week period and give teams a further 2 weeks grace to pay. That means invoices being issued in weeks 5 (pay by the end of week 9); 12 (pay by week 16 end); 19 (pay by week 23 end); 25 (pay by the end of the week after the season ends). The penalty for non-payment (without exceptional excuse) will be discussed at a future meeting – subject to the success or otherwise of this new process. Agreed by all.


Geoff Jackson was welcomed to his first meeting in post.

Nothing to report as yet – other than to say that all the dates have been set for the competitions and the Sunday comps have been moved to monthly from November.

8 - Treasurer

Dave Nuttall said there was nothing else to report beyond his comments at the AGM.



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League fees 2012 - 13 £2,862.00 Secretary honoraria£865.0

0Arrears paid from 2011-12 season £50.00 Secretary expenses:Team KO fees £204.00 Treasurer honoraria £140.00Coaching receipts £200.00 Treasurer expenses:

Competition Secretary honoraria£270.0

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Competition Secretary expenses:

Web site hosting & name £125.00League web page annual fee £156.00Ink Cartridges £58.94Redwood prize money £200.00

Trophies & engraving£895.0

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AGM refreshments£200.0

0Calendars £53.29Charity donations £204.00CRB coaching fees £56.00Coaching equipement £130.00Coaching course x 2 £490.00Finals night's referee expenses £115.00

Total Expenditure £3,958.23Bank Balance £2,975.72

Total Income£6,933.9

5Total Expenditure and Bank balance £6,933.95



Clubs informed the Comps Secretary about restrictions on nights available to the league for events.

Paul Townsend has changed his next two snooker coaching sessions from the 6.9.13 to the 13.9.13 and the 4.10.13 to the 11.10.13

This opened up a wider discussion on the sessions where PT and TC reported on the success and failings of the free sessions to date. TC suggested he could hold team sessions and PT suggested another advertising try in the Guardian. TC to action. All present agreed to return to their teams and clubs and push the sessions more.



Monday 21st October 2012 at 8pm at Shaw Heath

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AGM rota:




Life Members



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Knutsford & District Amateur Snooker League 2012-13 AGM - Mere Parish Club – Thursday 25 th April 2013


Officers (3) - President – Sid Jones (not present); Vice-President - Geoff Jackson (present); Chair – Steve Power (not present); Secretary – Tony Crompton (present); Treasurer – Dave Nuttall (present); Trophy & Competitions Secretary – Tony Crompton (present).

Brook Street (4) – Andy Long, Steve Prosser, Bob Jones and Dave Taylor

Mere (9) – Geoff Jackson, David Jackson, Allen Jackson, Tony Jackson, Sam Jackson, Tom Jackson, John Jackson, Philip Simpson and Ed Wakefield

Morley (3) – Paul Hart, George Antrobus and Jason Robinson

Mobberley (19) – Tony Crompton, Derek Street, Mark Newall, Steve Flinders, Paul Adkin, Jeff Gorton, Bruce Tulley, Steve Bond, Paul Hodson, Bob Spilsbury, Mike Gittins, Robert Spilsbury, Chris Clarke, Wayne Hammond, Ian Paton, Scott Mills, Peter Hargreaves, Terry Norman and Adam McNeil

Royal London (0) – None

Shaw Heath (1) – John Dale

Tatton (2) – Paul Townsend and Rob Clarke

Wilmslow Cons (2) – Dave Nuttall and John Higgins

Wilmslow RBL (7) – Brendan Townsend, Dave Wallington, John O’Neill, Peter O’Neill, Jake O’Neill, Carl Brookfield and Andy Kelly

1 Opening remarks by the Chair

Vice-Chair Tony Crompton opened the meeting explaining that the Chair for the meeting would have been initially handed to the President Sid Jones for his opening comments and then handed back to him but that in Sid’s absence, due to illness, he would now hand over the Chair to Geoff Jackson the Vice-President for his comments.

2 Opening remarks by the Vice-President

Geoff Jackson said: It is with much sadness that I and the committee learnt of the illness of our President Sid Jones who is unable to forward any comments to the Secretary to raise on his behalf. That said, it gives me much pleasure, as newly appointed Vice-President of the League, to welcome you all to this AGM and prize presentation evening. You all know me well and I assure you that I will continue to do my utmost to continue, support and grow our great league. Finally I’d like to personally thank the other officers, particularly Tony, for their help, work and guidance. Thank you and enjoy the evening.


The Secretary ensured that all present (to vote) are listed on the attendance sheet, are members and accepts apologies for those absent.

Apologies received from: Alan Beeley, Pete Hodge, Scott Marshall, Steve Power, James Coggins, Kevin Shackleton, Mike Sullivan, Mervyn Pike, Peter Turner, Chris McNeil, Mark Murphy, Alan Williams



At that first Management Meeting, the AGM minutes were accepted as a true and accurate account of the AGM, by those present, and any matters arising were dealt with at that meeting.

It has been agreed for many seasons now that the Secretary would not produce hard copies of minutes at either AGM ’s or Management Meetings as they are always available on the league web site the day after each meeting for anyone to print off, access or read.


At the first management meeting after the last AGM, any matters arising were dealt with; the minutes were accepted as a true and accurate account of the AGM and duly placed on the league web site as already stated at item 4 above.

6 Report by Chair

The Chairperson (Steve Power) had submitted his comments to the Secretary in advance of the meeting and these were read out:

I'd like to personally thank everyone for attending tonight and to congratulate, in advance, all those who have contributed to the season in any way, especially the winners. This season has been far from routine as on a personal level the only club I’ve ever played for, for 28 years, has closed. Thanks go to both the league officers and Brook St Club for making the transition a smooth one.

For the officers of the league, as ever, it’s been another busy one. I would personally like to thank all the other officers for their efforts. The amount of work that they do on behalf of the league is significantly greater than anything I have to do. Thanks must go to Tony for stepping in to support all the competitions. Welcome to Geoff Jackson as vice-president and soon to be competition and trophies secretary. I’m sure you’ll all continue to show Geoff the same support that you give to all the league officers.

The league continues to progress and build on the years of endeavour from all the officers, club representatives, captains and players that have been involved through the entire history of the league but even though we have a rich history we need to realise the challenges we face going forward and remember that the most important season is always the current one - or in the close season, the next one. If that season fails then all the history counts for nothing. We need to do everything we can for the greater good of the league.

I don't want to cover ground that will be covered later by the other officers but I would like to highlight a few key points. Financially the league continues to be very healthy and testament to this is the fact that even if there is a reduction in league income due to the reduction in the number of teams there is no risk to the season to season, week to week operation of the league. Dave will explore this further but I’d like to thank those involved in the prompt payment of the majority of league fees.

The competition schedule has been extremely well managed by Tony supported by other league members. The number of 'no shows' has started to rise and we need to deal with that. There will be more of that later. At least some of the recent no shows can be attributed to the information not being put on club notice boards. I’m sure this will also be acknowledged elsewhere but the support from the trained league referees has been invaluable. We’re looking to continue to expand the number of referees, Tony will cover that also later. ‘Late cards’ and 'delivery problems' continue to trouble Tony but it's the teams that suffer as well - most teams work very hard to get cards in as soon as possible but a few still lag behind the rest. His job is made far easier if cards are received ASAP and remember you have to deal with one card a week while in a season Tony has to deal with over 700. Tony has recently given guidance on the technology solutions. Season 2013-14 will again present some real challenges for the league and I’m sure the August league formation meeting will deal efficiently as ever with them. Thanks to all the players in the entire league and competition sections, thanks to the sponsors and thanks for turning out tonight.


7 Report by Treasurer

Income has been reduced this year due to the loss of a 1st division team and a sponsor (Redwood Hire). This shortfall has in some way been matched by our Secretary purchasing some inexpensive, but quality, trophies from a new source.

May I offer a big thank you to all those who paid their team and KO cup fees on time as this does make my job so much easier; Having said that I’m unable to provide an exact final balance sheet as there are still some fees due and invoices to be paid. A screenshot of our current balance will be pasted into the minutes of this meeting by the Secretary.

Expenditure has been typical but for the cost of part funding two league players towards their coaching certificates together with appropriate equipment and manuals to assist them in assisting you. The committee think this will be money very well spent.

We will be carrying forward a very positive balance to next year and I can report that we’re on track to providing a fee free year to commemorate our 65th season. Finally, I would like to thank Steve Redwood for his sponsorship of the Redwood Hire Champions tournament over the years.


8 Report by Secretary

It is now 12 season’s since I was elected as League Secretary and this time has once again flown by. I’m very glad to report that in relative terms the season has been another quiet one – although it didn’t start out that way! The 62nd season started with bad news of the demise of champions Royal London A, the eve of season withdrawal of Wilmslow Cons C but the addition of Wilmslow Royal British Legion after a 13 season gap. More bad news was to come at the end of November when Knutsford Cons club was forced out of business – fortunately, homes were found for both league teams at Brook Street – and hard work by the league committee managed to get Wilmslow Cons C reformed for the second part of the season and even more arrived the week after with the resignation of the new Competitions and Trophy Secretary Kevin Shackleton which gave me a little more work to do, but such is life!

When the league did get under way, Mobberley A set about smashing league records galore with the fastest league win (5 matches before season end) for 20 years; most 7-0 wins in a season (8); most 400 plus match scores (10); second highest points total and match averages (386 per game) plus match records that included the Mere A v Mobberley A match where Steve Bond scoring 104, Mark Newall 107 & (League Secretary) Tony Crompton 108 for Mobberley to become only the 2nd ever team to have 3 ton plus scores in the same match. Mere’s aggregated team total of just 103 was the lowest ever in a league match while Mobberley’s 537 is the 3 rd highest and the winning margin of 434 is the largest ever to boot. An interesting fact is that Steve Bond had no cue of his own and so had to use Mark Newall’s which effectively means that the same cue had 2 tons in the same match!

Indeed, several players including Paul Hart, John Higgins, Mark Newall, Sam Jackson, Steve Bond and me had rather successful seasons in their own right. As you know – I like my ‘odd records’ and this season I set one or two. The best, I think, came in the first round of the Jay Trophy when somehow I beat Wilmslow Cons A’s John Higgins on the final black in the third frame to win 105-101. This is the first time two players in the same frame have scored a ton and easily beats the previous best frame total in league history of 166 points by a clear 40.

Wilmslow RBL had a successful return season in gaining promotion to the top division as runners-up in division 2 whilst Jake O’Neill won the Young Player competition and his uncle, Peter, took the Taylor Trophy at both first attempts.

The tale of the season though must be about the all-conquering Mobberley club who won both divisions; the Team KO cup; Redwood Hire; 6 Reds; best performance in both divisions; high break in division 1; Bert Astles Pairs; JME Pairs; and were runners-up in Division 1; the 6 Reds; Redwood Hire; Young Player; Bert Astles Pairs; JME Pairs and Jay Trophy.

The season ended with me receiving more personal abuse via an offensive voicemail message left by a player from Shaw Heath club and I expect the league committee to deal with the matter appropriately at the league formation meeting. I don’t need it, don’t deserve it and certainly won’t have it. We are not going down the same road as in season’s past and I will be minuting the fact that the matter will be forwarded to the police if the person ever contacts me again in any shape or form. That said, I’m glad to say that all in all we have ended the season in as good, if not better, a position than we started it. Let’s hope this is the start of an upward turn in things both in and out of the league.

On a much brighter note I thank the management committee for their forethought in part funding Paul Townsend and me to get qualified as snooker coaches and to committing to free monthly group coaching sessions for league players. We must continue to look at way of retaining, increasing and improving the league. This is definitely worth a try and the posters are on the side to take back to your clubs – I encourage you to attend and publicise these group sessions.

As usual I will conclude my report, by thanking a few people and I make no apology for extensively repeating myself from previous seasons because I still mean every word:

Steve Power continues to steer the meetings comfortably and sensibly whilst Dave Nuttall continues to guide us well and prudently as our Treasurer. I welcome our new Vice-President Geoff Jackson and look forward to his inputs in future meetings too.

The captains who run the teams each week. Without you, teams do not function, I know it comes with it’s own stresses, trials and tribulations but I want you to know that I do appreciate what you do – it may not seem like it sometimes when I enforce the various league rules but I do!

The club reps who have attended the management meetings and a divisional meeting in their own time and without reward and without whom the league would quickly grind to a halt.

The member clubs for allowing us to access their facilities for competitions and events. Particularly Mere Parish Club for hosting tonight’s AGM. Without the venues there is no league.

You ‘The Players’. I say it every year but I really do mean that every team and every player in this league has equal value to me. You, the players, are the people who make the league.

My last point is a bit of a ‘battle cry’:

Although I steer the league and the committee directs it, you the members in the member clubs have the most important role. I am not there when the young player walks through your club door. I’m not there when a new resident to your area calls in to see if there is a local league they can play in. I’m not there when an ‘old-timer’ thinks about rejoining or restarting playing. You are.

I can only do so much but you can all do so much more. We need to stop complaining about having bare squads and encourage new players in. Next time you go to your own club, take a look around you. Most of you will see plenty of

people playing snooker and who who are not in our league. Get them signed up – if not regularly, at least as squad players. Lots of us are great at moaning and, frankly, I don’t care as long as you put the same effort into doing something too. Don’t sit here now and expect me and a few others to ensure the survival of your team, your club or this league. Do’nt end up looking over your shoulders in 5, 10 or whatever years and look back at today as the time when our great league began to disappear.

Let’s stop the moaning and start the doing – you know how great our game and league is so let’s invest a little bit of everyone’s time to consolidate and grow it. If every team picks up just one more player over and above any they lose each season, we will either have a full squad each week or a new team in the near future.

There is an inventive idea you will be voting on later in this meeting, if you vote against it then make sure you understand your obligations to putting something better in its place. If you want to stay as we now are then you are all going to have to chip in before you look over your shoulders in a couple of seasons and wonder what happened.

Thank you and see you all next season. Tony Crompton

9 Report by Trophy / Competitions Secretary

Tony Crompton said: As you may know, Kevin Shackleton was voted in at last years AGM but resigned before taking the role up fully. I stepped into the breach and Geoff Jackson has put his name forward for your vote later in this meeting for next season. I endorse his proposal and so should you.

All the competitions have run well apart from the notable exception of the disproportionately high number of ‘fail to attends’ from players at Shaw Heath. I’m assured by their rep that this will be addressed next season by less entries or better attendance – we shall hopefully see this. The 6 Reds competition and Alternate Pairs have increased in entries this year which is promising. I’d also like to thank John O’Neill for volunteering and organising and running the Taylor Trophy at Wilmslow RBL.

Once again, we have had some excellent competitions and we will be presenting all the league winners with their awards after the end of this AGM using the format from last seasons AGM. To remind you, we will ask all present from the various member clubs to gather around their team presentation table and will announce each table’s achievements in turn whilst all the other clubs acknowledge those achievements. The buffet will be available after the presentations to round off another great season.

Thanks, Tony Crompton


The officers Honoraria was agreed at the last AGM: Secretary £865, Trophy / Competition Secretary £270 and Treasurer £140. A vote then took place regarding paying the agreed Honoraria in arrears. Carried unanimously – all in favour, none against, no abstentions.

There is a proposal to change the amounts for the 2013-14 season to Secretary £975, Trophy / Competition Secretary £270 and Treasurer £140. It seemed appropriate to deal with the proposal at this point and so a vote took place. Carried unanimously – all in favour, none against, no abstentions.


President; Sid JonesVice-President: Geoff JacksonChairperson; Steve PowerVice-Chairperson; League Secretary as requiredSecretary; Tony CromptonTrophy & Competitions Secretary; Post vacated by the League SecretaryTreasurer; Dave Nuttall

All existing post holders except the Trophy / Competitions Secretary had announced their intention to stand for re-election and in the absence of any other nominations were duly re-elected unopposed as per league rules.

The only nomination (from the Management Committee) for the position of Trophy / Competitions Secretary was, Geoff Jackson. A vote then took place and Geoff was duly elected. All in favour. None against. No abstentions.


None.


1. To change league rule 32.1:

It currently states “cards to reach the Secretary by 4pm on Monday following the match”

Proposed to change to read “Both captains must ensure that their score cards reach the League Secretary no later than 24 hours after the conclusion of their match”

32 voted in favour; 6 against; 2 abstentions; Carried.

2. To change league rule 32.2

It currently talks about accepting signed email copies or personal delivery before 10.30pm etc

Proposed to change to read “Emails or text messages including a photo or scanned copy of the scorecards are acceptable proof of scores and personal delivery of cards to the home address of the Secretary are only accepted prior to 10.15pm”.


3. To change in the league officers Honoraria:

At the 2011-12 AGM the amounts agreed were: Secretary £865, Trophy / Competition Secretary £270 and Treasurer £140. Honoraria is paid in arrears so if it is agreed at the 2012-3 AGM it is for ‘work’ done in the 2013-4 season.

The Management Committee feels that these amounts should be: Secretary £975, Trophy / Competition Secretary £270 and Treasurer £140.

A vote took place earlier in the meeting: All in favour; None Against; No abstentions. Carried.

4. To change rule 15.5

From: ‘Teams playing in the first division will play on Thursday nights with the possible exception of where there are more than 2 teams from that club in that division’

To: ‘Teams playing in the first division will normally play on Thursday nights. Exceptions may be made to ensure the continuity and smooth running of the league’


5. Ed Wakefield of Mere Parish club has been proposed for Life Membership of the league.

Eddie Wakefield, also known as “AA Eddie” (from his working days) has been playing in our league since at least the mid-seventies. He has captained and supported the players at Mere over all that time and has been at the forefront of encouraging the young players to play and develop their game at the club with a view to getting involved in the league. He is now nearly 70 years young and still playing weekly until recently to keep the Jacksons on our toes! His help and support to all players at Mere has been far more than just helpful - it has been invaluable. To the mind of the league’s committee, the league needs people and players like Eddie equally as much as Eddie clearly needs the league. We feel that the honour of league Life Membership should be considered for him”.

All voted in favour; none against; no abstentions; Carried.

6.Temporary change of league format

The proposal is that the first third of the 2013-4 division 2 season be run on the experimental grounds where the first 2 frames are in the ‘6 Reds’ format; the middle 2 frames being ‘standard snooker frames’ and the final 2 frames being ‘pairs’ matches. Any rules affecting such a change would be suspended for the duration of the experiment and teams would be able to also fill ‘empty frames’ with players who had already played (thus giving teams of 4 or 5 a full match).

2 voted in favour; all others against; 0 abstentions; Defeated.

14 Date of Next AGM

To be set at the August Management Committee Meeting – it is due to be at Mobberley Victory Hall Memorial club on Thursday 24th of April 2014.

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND LEAGUE FORMATION MEETING on Monday 20 th August 2012 at Brook Street club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony CromptonChairperson: Steve PowerCompetition / Trophy Secretary: Kevin ShackletonTreasurer: Dave NuttallPresident: Sid Jones (Not present)

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Andy Long and Steve ProsserKnutsford Cons: Steve Power, David Taylor, Carl Prince, Simon Nixon, Adrian Smith and Alan WilliamsMere: Geoff JacksonMobberley: Tony Crompton and Bob SpilsburyMorley: Paul HartRoyal London: Alan BeeleyShaw Heath: Scott MarshallTatton: Paul TownsendWilmslow Cons: Dave Nuttall, Mike Sullivan and Kevin Shackleton


Ashley Parker



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Paul Townsend and Seconded by Geoff Jackson. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



None


This meeting is effectively the league formation meeting and the Secretary therefore asked each club in turn to detail how many teams would be entered in the league for the 2012-13 season and then the captain’s details for each team entered.

The Secretary reminded all present that League rule 5.5 states: “The management committee will vote to accept or reject any such teams and names presented and, as those rejected will not be part of the new season’s league and thereby subject to it’s rules, there will be no right to appeal on said decision” and further added that all captains are reminded of their personal, team and club responsibilities so that issues, incidents and other matters brought to the committees attention last season do not arise again this year as such matters will be dealt with expeditiously and seriously:

Brook Street – 1 team – captain Andy Long

Knutsford Cons – 2 teams – A team Ashley Parker; B team Alan Williams

Mere – 3 teams – A team Geoff Owen; B team Geoff Jackson; C team Philip Simpson

Mobberley – 4 teams – A team Tony Crompton; B team Wayne Hammond; C team Ian Paton; D team Derek Street

Morley – 1 team – captain Paul Hart

Royal London – 1 team – captain James Nash

Shaw Heath – 2 teams – A team captain to be notified to Secretary ASAP (before season starts); B team Chris Jackson. Note: there was great debate regarding the admission of Shaw Heath A into the league because of their previous ‘issues’ with non-payment and late payment of league fees. It was agreed that Will Cowley was solely responsible for the £108 outstanding fee money but that the club needed to appoint someone responsible to collect future fees – Scott Marshall agreed to be that person although the captain notified to the Secretary as the Shaw Heath A captain would remain liable under the league rules.

Tatton – 1 team – captain Paul Townsend

Wilmslow Cons - 3 teams – A team Mike Sullivan; B team Kevin Shackleton; C team Dave Nuttall

With all existing teams except Royal London A re-entering the league, as previously agreed, this season the league will be made up of 2 divisions of 9 teams in division 1 and 9 teams in division 2 playing each other in three cycles = 27 (or 24 + 3 bye weeks) of actual matches.

At this point, the Secretary appropriately mentioned that a team had once again failed to pay their end of season team subs by the due date invoiced by the Treasurer. This is clearly unacceptable. Sadly, this team is Shaw Heath A who had also failed to pay their fees the previous season by the due date – these fees were paid in time by a team member after much discussion between the Secretary / Treasurer and team reps. We are informed that the issue was with Will Cowley receiving the fees from players and not passing those moneys on to the league. It was agreed to discuss the wider issue of ‘non-payment’ at the next management meeting and the discussion to be led by the league Treasurer who will present a range of options available.

The Secretary then mentioned that Wilmslow Royal British Legion have applied to join the league. John O’Neill would be captain (07930-376764 or 01625-250914 formerly at Morley) with Peter O’Neill (formerly at Morley); Jake O’Neill (formerly at Morley); Dave McClure; Jay Featherstone; Carl Brookfield; James Coggins; Adam O’Neill as the players. It was decided that they be accepted into the league in division two.

With now 19 teams available and a gap week in division 1, it was agreed to promote an additional team from division two (Mere B) into division 1 to leave 10 in division 1 and 9 plus a bye in division 2.

The meeting then progressed to the player registrations for the 2012-3 season (these will remain on each set of minutes for easy reference):

Brook Street

Andy Long / Bob Jones / Gary Long / Geoff Sharpe / Martin Sharpe / Paul Langley / Rick Peers / Steve Prosser / Tom Birtles


Knutsford Cons

Adrian Hough / Adrian Smith / Alan Williams / Ashley Parker / Brian Lomas / Carl Prince / Chris Parker / Dave Taylor / Dennis Robinson / Francis Evans / Geoff Taylor / Harry Halsall / Herbert Hope / John Prince / Kevin Harrison / Kevin Holman / Phil Willocks / Simon Nixon / Steve Elstone / Steve Power / Steven Bloor / Will Cowley

The only objections made regarding any of the above players joining the league for the 2012-3 season was against Will Cowley. There was a proposal by Andy Long and seconded by Simon Nixon to only accept Will Cowley into the league at any time in the future upon payment to the league Treasurer of the £108 outstanding league fees. All in favour. None against. No abstentions. Carried.

Mere

Alan Greenaway / Alan Jackson / Alex Wright / Antony Jackson / Arthur Hasford / Chris Bushell / Daniel Pollard / David Jackson / Eddie Wakefield / Geoff Jackson / Geoff Owen / James Owen / Jamie Flood / Jesse Oldfield / John Jackson / Joe Gates / Josh Flood / Mark Hampson / Mark Murphy / Matthew Owen / Maurice Garvey / Mike Dufton / Philip Simpson / Richard Jones / Richard Owen / Sam Jackson / Sam Riley / Sid Jones / Simon Lowndes / Syd Antrobus / Terry Riley / Thomas Jackson / Tom Smith / Will Blackburn / Will Bushell


Mobberley

Adam McNeil / Bob Spilsbury / Bruce Tulley / Chris Clarke / Chris McNeil / Derek Street / Eddie Oldfield / Ian Paton / Jeff Gorton / Josh Street / Keith Wallis / Ken Davies / Leung Yu / Luke Bevans / Mark Newall / Mervyn Pike / Mike Gittins / Nigel Hodson / Paul Adkin / Paul Hodson / Paul Kubiak / Peter Hargreaves / Peter Turner / Robert Spilsbury / Scott Mills / Steve Bond / Steve Flinders / Terry Norman / Tony Crompton / Wayne Hammond


Morley

David Coates / George Antrobus / Jason Robinson / Nigel Woodall / Paul Hart / Rob Antrobus / Seb Jackson / Steve Stubbs / Will Bennett


Royal London

Adam Drinkwater / Alan Beeley / Fred Harris / Graham Robertson / Greg Jennings / James Nash / Jeremy Straker / John Beeley / Marcus De Souza / Mark Baker / Nick Riley / Paul Beeley / Pete Hodge / Rick Goldsmith / Simon McMahon / Steve Barnes / Steven Sharples / Tim Carragher


Shaw Heath

Andy Yates / Ben Cook / Bradley Williams / Chris Jackson / Dave Jenyons / Dave MacDonald / Dave Mullins / Dave Rainford / Dave Whitehead / Gareth Williams / Glenn Marshall / Jamie Way / John Dale / Mark Jenyons / Mike Christison / Mike Thorp / Richard Hammond / Ricky Blake / Sandy Stockton / Scott Marshall / Scott Beattie / Steve Jenyons / Steve Thorp / Stuart Valentine / Vic Mullins


Tatton

Alan Conkleton / Dave Blackburn / Drew McAra / Ian Snelson / James Phillipson / John Peet / Keith Roden / Paul Townsend / Peter Cowley / Phil Roden / Rob Clarke / Ron Tagg / Steve Jackson


Wilmslow Cons

Alan Potts / Andy Stott / Charlie Williams / Dave Bayley / David Nuttall / Dave Patterson / David Slater / Frank Griffith / Graham Kitson / Irvine MacDonald / Jim Sinclair / John Higgins / John Percival / Jonathan Smith / Kevin Shackleton / Mark Anderson / Mike Sullivan / Nick Thompson / Peter Butler / Peter Stakes / Peter Watson / Ralph Robertson / Richard Bayley / Richard Porter / Will Bell



Adam O’Neill / Carl Brookfield / Dave McClure / Jake O’Neill / James Coggins / Jay Featherstone / John O’Neill / Peter O’Neill

No objections made to made of the above players joining the league for the 2012-3 season Action: Secretary to email WRBL to welcome them to the league and remind them of the etiquette document etc

20. There will again be competition weeks inserted into the programme at intervals to ease the burden of competition nights and to spread the end of season ‘crush’.

21. Handicaps will be allocated after the first 9 week rotation which means we can again start the competitions soon afterwards.

22. Division 1 – Brook Street, Mere A, Mere B, Mobberley A, Mobberley B, Morley, Shaw Heath A, Tatton, Wilmslow Cons A and Wilmslow Cons B.

23. Division 2 –Knutsford Cons A, Knutsford Cons B, Mere C, Mobberley C, Mobberley D, Royal London, Shaw Heath B, Wilmslow Cons C and Wilmslow RBL (plus a bye week).

24. No other disciplinary or dispute matters to discuss.


25. The East Cheshire Hospice charity has sent a letter of appreciation to the Secretary for the donation made to them by the league as part of our entry to their Charity Golf Day at Vale Royal Abbey that was enjoyed by all. It was agreed to make a similar event an annual occasion.

26. The Secretary had emailed out a membership form for the 2012/13 season to all on the ‘email round’ list, which will enable their club to join the English Association of Snooker and Billiards. Once again the EASB are offering Club Membership for free, so all you have to do is return your membership form and they will include your details on their database. Membership will be valid until 31st March, 2013. Club Membership benefits are still being developed and enhanced, which is why they are offering membership for free. One benefit that you will have this season is that every club can enter one player into the English Club Players Championship free of charge. Other benefits will be introduced during this season but will only be available to Full Members from April 2013. At the moment, with free membership, you can't lose! All you need to do is return the membership form to the office address. Action: Clubs to complete and submit the form.


Kevin was welcomed to his first meeting in post.

Nothing to report as yet – draw for the Team KO will be at the October meeting.

8 - Treasurer

Nothing else to report beyond his comments at the AGM and above.

Current league balance is £3,461.95


The Secretary said that he would be moving the league’s own website to a better and cheaper host. He has built a much more comprehensive site and in a ‘cleaner’ more adaptable style. He stated that the current cost of the www.kadasl.co.uk site is £40 per year but www.kadasl.com is available at a cost of just £125 for a 5 year contract. The current hosting deal runs out in November 2012 but after debate it was unanimously agreed to move to the .com site immediately. Action: Secretary to purchase deal asap and seek recompense from Treasurer when done.

Action: Paul Townsend volunteered to create a link from the .co.uk site to the new .com site in the interim.






Knutsford Cons club updated the league on their ‘situation’. In brief, the club is very likely to close at the end of 2012. The league officers had worked together with the clubs involved and agreed that the two Knutsford Cons teams should continue to play from their club until the last available time upon which they will transfer to Brook Street club. Team names will be unchanged for clarity and will change to Brook Street B and C next season should the ‘transfer’ occur. The Knutsford Cons representatives thanked the league and Brook Street in particular, for their assistance at this bad time for their club.

The Knutsford Cons club situation will need to be monitored in terms of the league meetings and, in particular, this season’s AGM – Secretary to note.

Dave Nuttall raised a good practice point for clubs: quality match balls, table equipment and surfaces should be available at all clubs for league matches and competitions. It was agreed that most clubs already provide this and the remainder should strive to achieve this standard. Secretary to add to the League Etiquette Document.

Andy Long pointed out that a couple of players had not registered for the new season and who were in possession of league trophies. Action: Secretary to contact Mark Newall for onward message to Kenny Knight to return trophy to Mobberley. Action: Geoff Jackson to contact Simon Lowndes for trophy return to Mere / Mobberley.

Alan Beeley requested a copy of the Royal London CD handed out at last year’s AGM. Action: Secretary to contact Mark Newall to locate same and forward to Alan.


Monday 8th October 2012 at 8pm at Knutsford Cons

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Knutsford Cons, Mere, Mobberley, Morley, Shaw Heath, Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Brook Street

AGM rota:

Knutsford Cons, Mere, Mobberley, Wilmslow Cons (65th Anniversary), Morley, Shaw Heath, Brook Street, Wilmslow RBL

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING at Monday 8th October 2012 on Knutsford Cons club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony CromptonChairperson: Steve PowerCompetition / Trophy Secretary: Kevin Shackleton (apologies)Treasurer: Dave Nuttall (Not present)President: Sid Jones (Not present)

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Andy LongKnutsford Cons: Steve Power, David Taylor and Alan WilliamsMere: John JacksonMobberley: Tony Crompton and Derek StreetMorley: Jason Robinson

Royal London: Alan BeeleyShaw Heath: David McDonaldTatton: Drew McAraWilmslow Cons: Not presentWilmslow RBL: Jake O’Neill, John O’Neill and Peter O’Neill


Kevin Shackleton, Geoff Jackson and Paul Townsend


The Secretary had previously circulated copies of the last meeting on the web site and no matters had been brought to his attention.

Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Dave Taylor and Seconded by Andy Long. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



Secretary to contact Mark Newall for onward message to Kenny Knight to return trophies to Mobberley. Not complete – carried over to next meeting.

Geoff Jackson to contact Simon Lowndes for trophy return to Mere / Mobberley. Not complete – carried over to next meeting.

Alan Beeley requested a copy of the Royal London CD handed out at last year’s AGM. Secretary contacted Mark Newall to locate same and forward to Alan. Not complete – carried over to next meeting.

Clubs to complete and submit the EASB affiliation form. Complete – most have registered.

Secretary to purchase www.kadasl.com deal asap and seek recompense from Treasurer when done. Complete.

Paul Townsend volunteered to create a link from the .co.uk site to the new .com site in the interim. Complete.

Dave Nuttall raised a good practice point for clubs: quality match balls, table equipment and surfaces should be available at all clubs for league matches and competitions. Secretary to add to the League Etiquette Document. Complete.

Secretary to obtain captains details for Shaw Heath A from Dave Rainford. Complete – captain is John Dale.

Knutsford Cons club situation update: At a special general meeting on the 30 th of September 2012 members of Knutsford Conservative Club voted to dissolve the club on the 30th of November 2012. Therefore:

(a) From the week commencing 4th December 2012, the Knutsford Cons teams will play their HOME games on Tuesdays at Brook Street

(b) All division 2 reps and captains are to make note of this change as the league rules will be enforced for any ‘non-appearances’ by teams

(c) Knutsford Cons and Brook Street reps to meet asap to ensure a smooth transition and ‘housekeeping’(d) Next season, dependent on where the existing Brook Street team lies in the league, the 3 teams will be known

as Brook Street A, B and C(e) Knutsford Cons has been removed from the rota of clubs for hosting Management Meetings and AGM’s


(f) The 2012-3 AGM will now be hosted by Mere on the 25th of April 2013 (TBC)(g) Notes have been placed on the ‘week by week’ fixture list on the league website and the Secretary asks all

reps to ensure a new updated copy of the fixtures is placed on each club’s noticeboard(h) The league will invoice the captains of the 2 Knutsford Cons teams for league subs – as if they had continued

at Knutsford Cons(i) As the players involved in this move are members of Brook Street and in all but name, Brook Street players

once they move, players can be treated as per any other club in terms of their eligibility etc for other club teams


No disciplinary or dispute matters to discuss.

New registrations:

Brook Street: Neil Greer; Knutsford Cons: none Mere: none Mobberley: Nick Brown; Morley: none Royal London: Ben Harney Shaw Heath: John Beattie; Ian Carr; Nathan Weightman; Tatton: none Wilmslow Cons: none Wilmslow RBL: Brendan Townsend; Andy Kelly;


Shaw Heath spotted a mistake on one of their fixtures and the mistake was repeated over each of the 9 week cycles. The mistake was immediately rectified on the fixtures, lists and websites and the captains (Mere B and Shaw Heath B) notified by the Secretary.

Adam McNeil of Mobberley has been communicating with professional Ian McCulloch. Many will recall that Ian did an exhibition night a few seasons’ ago for us as part of the anniversary celebrations. In brief, Ian has offered to do an exhibition again for us and has modified the cost due to his ranking changes. The cost is now £1,000 for the evening. A discussion followed and it was decided to thank Adam for the suggestion and to hold the idea back for consideration during our next anniversary year celebrations.

New rule 25.2 states: “Regular team players may only play for another club team that is placed below them in the league if they have lost more league games than they have won at that point. Any disputes regarding the eligibility of any such player should be raised with the Secretary for the next League Meeting to discuss ”. This is causing quite a few problems with several teams who are ‘on the cusp’. Indeed it is very open to abuse in the opposite direction (ie clubs could register all their better players for the first D team game and then there are no restrictions on that player). A discussion followed and it was decided to leave the rule as it is – proposed by Brook Street, seconded by Tatton, all in favour, none against, no abstentions.


Kevin was unable to attend tonight’s meeting due to a clash of commitments.

Draws for the Team KO cup, Jay Trophy and Rotary Cup then took place:

Jay Trophy last 32 to be played on Thursday the 8th of November:

Rotary Cup last 32 to be played on Wednesday the 7th of November:

Reps to note that the handicaps will be allocated after week 9 of the season and will not be circulated individually. It is therefore vital that clubs / captains access the websites and print out the current competition sheet after each and every competition date and display same on their club noticeboards.

8 - Treasurer

Treasurer not present so no report.

Current league balance not known but believed to be unchanged.



The Secretary enquired with the Wilmslow RBL club reps regarding the availability of their club for league competitions and meetings: “no problem other than Tuesdays due to the Wilmslow League games”.

On Tuesday the 27th of November 2012 Knutsford Cons A and Knutsford Cons B are scheduled to play each other at Knutsford Conservative club in what will be the last ever league snooker game played at this historic venue. Knutsford Cons are a founding member of the league and have been ever present throughout the course of the league. To celebrate this historic event they are inviting all players, past and present, to attend and enjoy an evening of snooker – reps to notify any ex Cons players at their club of the event. The Secretary has written an article for the Guardian to match the event.

The Secretary asked the reps from Mere, Royal London, Shaw Heath and Wilmslow RBL to email or text him a picture of their club or snooker room for adding to the league website. In the case of Wilmslow RBL he also requested any club or snooker ‘history’ they wished to add to the site to also be forwarded.

The Secretary updated all in relation to the league President Sid Jones. He had visited his place of residence and Sid is suffering from dementia and according to the manager at the site (a) Sid is in no condition to either continue the role as his condition makes him unable to contribute meaningfully to such a position (b) Sid is unable to understand that he even holds the league position and (c) discussing the matter directly with Sid was liable to upset him greatly. In view of that information, a discussion was held in relation to the qualities required of our new President. After brief discussion it was felt that few players fitted that criterion and one such candidate (Ray Dale) had declined to be considered (for a number of reasons). After much discussion, it was decided (a) the Secretary should write a letter to Sid’s family informing them of the situation and (b) Geoff Jackson of Mere be offered the honorary position subject to Sid’s family responding. The position is elected (officially) at the AGM but a decision to replace with immediate effect could be taken under rule 21 (“the committee shall have the power to deal with all matters not covered by these rules”). Carried over for a decision at the next meeting.

The Secretary reported that three weeks into this season, Royal London’s remaining team cried off a match and the following week they played with 5 players. They played several matches last season ‘short’ and likewise the previous season. He said that he knows that their captain James Nash is trying his best, but felt that we need to come to some consensus regarding the future league format should we reach up or drop to certain numbers. Alan Beeley responded that they had recently gained 2 more regular players and it was hoped that the situation was now resolved.

A brief discussion followed about how the league should be structured in the event of team numbers changing in the future and it was agreed that: (a) division 1 should always have more teams in than division 2 (b) the difference in team numbers in the divisions should be 2 or less and (c) should we ever have 23 or above teams we will revert to 3 divisions of 8 (bye in the bottom division if applicable) playing 4 rotations = 28 matches.



Knutsford Cons asked any interested parties to approach them in relation to snooker fixtures and fittings when their club closes. The Secretary and Mobberley rep said that they would be more than happy for the league HQ at Mobberley to accept any honours boards, trophies etc relating to the league.


Monday 28th January 2013 at 8pm at Mere

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Mere (28th January), Mobberley (25th March), Morley, Shaw Heath, Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Brook Street

AGM rota:

Mere, Mobberley, Wilmslow Cons (65th Anniversary), Morley, Shaw Heath, Brook Street, Wilmslow RBL


Brook Street

Andy Long / Bob Jones / Gary Long / Geoff Sharpe / Martin Sharpe / Neil Greer / Paul Langley / Rick Peers / Steve Prosser / Tom Birtles

Knutsford Cons

Adrian Hough / Adrian Smith / Alan Williams / Ashley Parker / Brian Lomas / Carl Prince / Chris Parker / Dave Taylor / Dennis Robinson / Francis Evans / Geoff Taylor / Harry Halsall / Herbert Hope / John Prince / Kevin Harrison / Kevin Holman / Phil Willocks / Simon Nixon / Steve Elstone / Steve Power / Steven Bloor

Mere

Alan Greenaway / Alan Jackson / Alex Wright / Antony Jackson / Arthur Hasford / Chris Bushell / Daniel Pollard / David Jackson / Eddie Wakefield / Geoff Jackson / Geoff Owen / James Owen / Jamie Flood / Jesse Oldfield / John Jackson / Joe Gates / Josh Flood / Mark Hampson / Mark Murphy / Matthew Owen / Maurice Garvey / Mike Dufton / Philip Simpson / Richard Jones / Richard Owen / Sam Jackson / Sam Riley / Sid Jones / Simon Lowndes / Syd Antrobus / Terry Riley / Thomas Jackson / Tom Smith / Will Blackburn / Will Bushell

Mobberley

Adam McNeil / Bob Spilsbury / Bruce Tulley / Chris Clarke / Chris McNeil / Derek Street / Eddie Oldfield / Ian Paton / Jeff Gorton / Josh Street / Keith Wallis / Ken Davies / Leung Yu / Luke Bevans / Mark Newall / Mervyn Pike / Mike Gittins / Nick Brown / Nigel Hodson / Paul Adkin / Paul Hodson / Paul Kubiak / Peter Hargreaves / Peter Turner / Robert Spilsbury / Scott Mills / Steve Bond / Steve Flinders / Terry Norman / Tony Crompton / Wayne Hammond

Morley

David Coates / George Antrobus / Jason Robinson / Nigel Woodall / Paul Hart / Rob Antrobus / Seb Jackson / Steve Stubbs / Will Bennett

Royal London

Adam Drinkwater / Alan Beeley / Ben Harney / Fred Harris / Graham Robertson / Greg Jennings / James Nash / Jeremy Straker / John Beeley / Marcus De Souza / Mark Baker / Nick Riley / Paul Beeley / Pete Hodge / Rick Goldsmith / Simon McMahon / Steve Barnes / Steven Sharples / Tim Carragher

Shaw Heath

Andy Yates / Ben Cook / Bradley Williams / Chris Jackson / Dave Jenyons / Dave MacDonald / Dave Mullins / Dave Rainford / Dave Whitehead / Gareth Williams / Glenn Marshall / Ian Carr / Jamie Way / John Beattie / John Dale / Mark Jenyons / Mike Christison / Mike Thorp / Nathan Weightman / Richard Hammond / Ricky Blake / Sandy Stockton / Scott Marshall / Scott Beattie / Steve Jenyons / Steve Thorp / Stuart Valentine / Vic Mullins

Tatton


Wilmslow Cons

Alan Potts / Andy Stott / Charlie Williams / Dave Bayley / David Nuttall / Dave Patterson / David Slater / Frank Griffith / Graham Kitson / Irvine MacDonald / Jim Sinclair / John Higgins / John Percival / Jonathan Smith / Kevin Shackleton / Mark Anderson / Mike Sullivan / Nick Thompson / Peter Butler / Peter Stakes / Peter Watson / Ralph Robertson / Richard Bayley / Richard Porter / Will Bell


Adam O’Neill / Andy Kelly / Brendan Townsend / Carl Brookfield / Dave McClure / Jake O’Neill / James Coggins / Jay Featherstone / John O’Neill / Peter O’Neill

SECOND DIVISION CAPTAINS MEETING on Monday 14th January 2013 – 8pm Mere Parish club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony Crompton

League Clubs:

Knutsford Cons A: Not representedKnutsford Cons B: Alan WilliamsMere B: Geoff JacksonMere C: Philip SimpsonMobberley C: Ian PatonMobberley D: Not representedRoyal London: Alan BeeleyShaw Heath B: Chris JacksonWilmslow Cons C: Not representedWilmslow RBL: John O’Neill and Jake O’Neill


None received


The Secretary said that he had been contacted by a number of players and captains about a perceived ‘deterioration in standards in division two’. In brief the grumbles / complaints can be summarised as being items already covered or eluded to in the League Etiquette Document.

The Secretary felt the quickest way to improve the situation was to hold tonight’s informal but minuted meeting and therefore threw the discussion open to the captains to discuss and resolve:

The issue of players walking around the table and using their chalk to indicate / assist / mark shots was raised. All agreed that this is unacceptable in terms of both etiquette and against the rules of snooker itself (outside aid etc). Chalk should only be placed on the table next to the player playing the shot and moved for each shot then removed at the end of their visit – if at all.

The issue of bad language was raised. It was accepted that the odd expletive was inevitable but if it was persistent or directed at another person or player (no matter on which team they may be) then this was unacceptable. In the first instance the player offended should raise it with the person in question; if not resolved (or they feel unable to) then they raise it with their own captain who will attempt to resolve it with the opposing captain; if still unresolved, the matter will be referred to the League Secretary for Management Meeting discussion and resolution. This is the accepted resolution route for all disputes or issues.

The issue of poor marking / refereeing was raised. Numerous examples were given of referees sitting at the side of tables; wandering around aimlessly; not checking for fouls; not knowing basic rules and drinking / holding drinks over tables when replacing balls etc. It was agreed that referees should stand throughout their game and if unfit to do so, their game should be marked by another player nominated by their captain; add points to the scoreboard as soon as practicable; not hold drinks over the table when replacing balls; ideally not drink at all whilst marking and; refer to teams as ‘spot and plain’ or by team name when adding points.

The issue of teams arriving at venues at 8pm and later was discussed. The league rules clearly cover this point and the Secretary explained clearly that teams enforcing rule 21 (first 2 games to start by 8.10pm or the team present can claim the frames etc) are in the right and should never be criticised. It is unacceptable, shoddy and unsporting. Only one league team is a persistent offender of this rule and all agreed that they need to improve in this area.

The issue of practicing on tables was raised. In a recent game a member of the visiting team was practicing on the match table before the match. Disregarding the fact that common-sense says you would instruct your captain to speak to the player; if not resolved for your captain to speak to the other team captain; agree for the player to play his frame on the table he wasn’t practicing on; etc etc, on the face of it, this is completely wrong but it just so happened that the player in question was a member of the club where the match was being held. League rules and league etiquette can NEVER override the rules of the member clubs. Unless the host club prohibits something, it is only then covered by our rules. This subject is not covered in our rules. It is alluded to in the etiquette document and this covers matters captains should resolve easily and amicably between themselves. A change / clarification to the etiquette document was then agreed.

The League Secretary would find it very useful for him to know when anyone changes their mobile number so that they can be contacted as required rather than players complaining that they have not received information. The Secretary then asked all present to text through their player numbers to the Secretary for further possible use. Captains added that they would find it useful to have other captains details also.

The Secretary reminded all that entries for the league competitions are on each league website and captains should be canvassing their squads to enter. The Redwood Hire competition still had division 2 vacancies due to some teams not entering.

9 – Actions Arising

All captains to feed back that a meeting has had to be held tonight, to their players

All captains to feed back the conclusions / agreements of this meeting, to their players

All captains to ensure that a League Etiquette document is displayed in their snooker table vicinity

All captains are to ensure that their players view the League Etiquette document at their club or on line

League Secretary to update the League Etiquette document with the above comments etc

League Secretary to add captains details to the league website on the ‘current season page’.

A marked improvement in standards is expected by all

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 21st January 2013 at Mere Parish club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony CromptonChairperson: Steve PowerCompetition / Trophy Secretary: Tony CromptonTreasurer: Dave NuttallPresident: Sid Jones (Not present)

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Andy Long, Steve Power and Alan WilliamsMere: Geoff JacksonMobberley: Tony Crompton and Derek StreetMorley: Paul HartRoyal London: Alan BeeleyShaw Heath: Scott MarshallTatton: Paul TownsendWilmslow Cons: Dave NuttallWilmslow RBL: Jake O’Neill and John O’Neill


None



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Derek Street and Seconded by John O’Neill. All in favour, none against and no abstentions.



Secretary to contact Mark Newall for onward message to Kenny Knight to return trophies to Mobberley. Complete.

Geoff Jackson to contact Simon Lowndes for trophy return to Mere / Mobberley. Complete.

Alan Beeley requested a copy of the Royal London CD handed out at last year’s AGM. Secretary contacted Mark Newall to locate same and forward to Alan. Contacted and unable to find the CD. Secretary has therefore produced another copy and this was handed to Alan tonight.

Mere were to confirm that the AGM could be held at their club instead of Knutsford Cons on 25.4.13 – confirmed. Complete.

In relation to the league President Sid Jones, at the last meeting it was decided (a) the Secretary should write a letter to Sid’s family informing them of the situation and (b) Geoff Jackson of Mere be offered the honorary position subject to Sid’s family response.

The Secretary wrote to the family and subsequently spoke at length to Sid’s daughter (Susan). She suggested that the best way forward was to leave Sid in post until he passes away and for the league to put a Vice-President in place with immediate effect. The Secretary subsequently emailed Geoff Jackson regarding the possibility of him becoming Vice-President to which Geoff replied:

Dear Hon Secretary (Tony), League Management Committee, league members and friends. It is with much pride (and greater surprise) that I received the committees approach regarding the possible Presidency of the league.

The surprise stems from the fact that historically the Presidency has been an almost figurehead only position - a position I have long felt could be much more than that. I am most pleased to see the league moving towards a more supportive role for that figurehead and even more pleased that the committee sees potential in me to fulfil that change of role hopefully for many years to come. I have spoken to Tony at length and unconditionally accept the offer. I would, however, agree that perhaps the best way forward would be to comply with the wishes of the Sid Jones family and leave Sid in post as President indefinitely. I would further respectfully suggest the league then re-creates (in its formation years the league had several) the Vice-President position which I would be very happy to occupy if so decided. Yours, Geoff Jackson

The position of President is elected (officially) at the AGM but a decision to put a Vice-President in place with immediate effect could be taken under rule 21 (“the committee shall have the power to deal with all matters not covered by these rules”). It was therefore agreed (all in favour; none against; no abstentions) to (a) re-create the post of Vice-President (b) appoint Geoff Jackson to that position and (c) when Sid Jones passes away, to put Geoff to the next available AGM as President and dissolve the Vice-President’s post.


No disciplinary matters to discuss.

No matters of dispute to discuss – see note regarding the ‘Division 2 Captains Meeting’ later in these minutes..

The following new registrations were raised and accepted – no objections. Those in brackets are those accepted or deleted by the Secretary direct:

Brook Street: Sam Pointon Mere: none Mobberley: Ray Dale; Ralph Waite Morley: Derek Stubbs; Gareth Clayton Royal London: Daniel Dauer; Andy Morris (Graham Robertson; Paul Beeley; Marcus de Souza and Gary Gough

removed at RL request) Shaw Heath: Leighton Lathrope; James West; Mark Evans Tatton: none

Wilmslow Cons: Alan Conduit; Glyn Batten; Ian Clarke Wilmslow RBL: Joe Street; Dave Wallington; (Stephen Flannery)


Wilmslow Cons C had indicated to the Secretary, a desire to rejoin the league next season. After discussion with representatives of the team it was felt reasonable, appropriate and feasible to rejoin the team this season with effect from week 10. It was agreed by the league officers that this was a sensible way to reintegrate the team into the league and increase previously dwindling numbers – particularly in light of the issues being experienced by some other teams. The arrangements for their return had been agreed:

1. That they would re-enter the league at league week 10 – ie after one third of the current season had been played2. That the team would score double points for their matches from week 10 to 17 to ‘even’ up their total 3. That their opponents in weeks 10 to 18 would also score double points - this effectively means that the week 1 to

9 games had been played4. That they would not enter the Team KO competition5. That the Wilmslow Cons C players will not be considered for the best performance award as they cannot possibly

play the 75% of matches required to be eligible. However, their opponents will have their scores taken into account for this award (if eligible) as they have an equal chance of recording a win as recording a defeat.

Geoff Jackson asked if this had set a precedent for teams joining the league part way through a season and it was agreed that it had – however, it was also agreed that this did not tie the committee to repeating the decision either, should a similar or different scenario emerge in the future.

The Secretary had been contacted by Derek Stubbs (currently Morley and ex Knutsford Cons B) regarding the possibilities of the ex Knutsford Cons B team re-entering the league:

Hi Tony, I have been talking recently with most of the old Knutsford Cons team who I played for a couple of years ago. Most of us are also members of the United Services club in Sale. Before the start of the current season we were going to reform a team at Knutsford Cons but then we found out that club was closing so we knocked the idea on its head. But now as we are all members of the Sale club, we are interested to rejoin the league & use United Services Club as our HOME venue. You may say the club is too far out, which is probably correct , but a few years ago we had a team from Timperley Village in the league which didn’t cause any problems travel wise & the Sale based club is about 1½ miles further from Timperley & is probably a more direct route when travelling from the south. I know there are quite a lot of players throughout the league that live in the Trafford area, so many wouldn’t have far to travel for their away game. The club itself is just off the main A56 on Southern Road http://uscsale.co.uk/home.php The website is quite old but will give you some idea if you have not been there before. There are two very good standard tables (I would say very similar to Knutsford Cons) a very good bar & Sky TV etc. We would only be able to play Thursday nights however, so I hope this wouldn’t cause any problems. If you can bring this up at the next meeting & put this to the rest of the league, I would be grateful. If there is anymore info you need, just let me know. Kind regards, Derek

Derek, I know the club well. Good news on the face of it - please provide the following: You say you can ONLY play on Thursdays. Do you mean HOME games or HOME AND AWAY? If the latter then it's a non-starter as most division 2 teams (that is the division all new teams start in) play on Tuesdays. If it's the former, we can certainly accommodate that as several already do similar. In relation to the distance etc, this may be more of an issue. Timperley were in the league 15 years ago and when I raised the possibility of approaching the Victoria Club in Holmes Chapel 3 years ago, it wasn't well received - and that is far nearer. That said, subject to your reply to above, I will definitely raise it next week at the Management Meeting and see what response we get. As a side issue, I assume there is no chance of you becoming Morley B? That would also give you some scope for squad players etc if ever struggling. Look forward to your reply. Tony

Derek further replied: I will liaise with Paul Hart and Morley through the summer break to see if a move / re-entry is feasible and then communicate with you further in advance of the 2013-4 season.

http://uscsale.co.uk/home.php

Several players have approached the Secretary regarding the possibility of the league running a ‘trip’ (ie subsidised tickets) to the World Championships at Sheffield. The Secretary had taken the liberty of checking out prices and the cheapest tickets are: morning £15; afternoon £20; evening £20. It was decided unanimously not to subsidise such tickets until consideration during the next anniversary season celebrations.

7 Trophies / Competitions Secretary

Kevin Shackleton has resigned as the Trophy / Competition Secretary. Secretary Tony Crompton has assumed the role in his absence and is prepared to continue performing the role until the AGM where Geoff Jackson has agreed to be nominated etc. After discussion it was agreed to continue with this arrangement and Geoff Jackson (proposed by Andy Long and seconded by Dave Nuttall) will be put to this year’s AGM for what will then be a vacant position.

The Secretary asked “what we are planning to do with the Redwood Hire competition now that the prizemoney has been withdrawn by the sponsor?” After lengthy debate it was agreed unanimously that (a) the prizemoney would stay the same for this season at £50 / £50 / £65 / £85 (b) that we would review those amounts next season (c) that the committee would agree some proposals for the membership to consider at this years AGM and (d) the continuation of the Redwood Hire title would also be considered once the situation regarding engraving was known (Secretary to bring details to next meeting).

The divisional round robin matches of the Redwood Hire have been played and the semi-finalists decided over the past 2 weekends. The semi-final lineup sees Mark Newall playing Bob Spilsbury and Tony Crompton playing David Jackson on Wednesday the 13th of February. Geoff Jackson has volunteered to referee a semi-final and the final and Dave Nuttall will referee the other semi-final.

The Secretary asked “where are we planning to play the Taylor Trophy?” It is scheduled for Sunday 24 th March in the league calendar. Brook Street said that they were not prepared to open on a Sunday for the event and so it was agreed to continue with the set date and play the matches at either RBL or Mobberley from 9.15am onwards. John O’Neill to confirm availability tomorrow.

Tony ensured all entries were received and made the draws for the Bert Astles Pairs and Alternate Pairs competitions and stated that the draws, handicaps, venues etc would be displayed on the websites by the end of tomorrow, hopefully, as usual. Reps were reminded that as the first round of matches in these competitions are the week after next, that they must ensure their club entrants are informed of the draw availability and that a copy of the draws are available on their own club noticeboards asap.

The Secretary reminded all clubs that all the league trophies are to be returned to Mobberley asap and by the end of February without fail in any case. There are only 6 now outstanding after those returned tonight.

8 - Treasurer

A screenshot of the league’s bank account is pasted below for the records:

Dave Nuttall reported: Good evening everyone. May I first offer my apologies for not attending the last meeting nor providing a report and balance sheet.

Income so far, excluding this evening, is £1,116 representing league fees from 16 teams - thank you for your prompt payment. The others are in hand and will be received either tonight or shortly. If possible can teams please pay by bank transfer – it is much easier all round and the details are sent on the invoices.

Expenditure of £393.23 of which the breakdown is:

League's new Website hosting fees £125 League website (leaguesnooker.com) annual fees £156 Replacement ink cartridges for the Secretary £58.94 Cost of calendars £53.29

Including the carry forward balance from last season means we have a positive balance of £4,340.72

The Secretary handed the Treasurer £50 passed to him from Will Cowley of Shaw Heath. Reps may recall that Will is suspended from the league at least until he repays the league the Shaw Heath A subs from the 2011-12 season. He now owes the league £58 before any application to join the league will be considered.



The Secretary had held an ‘informal but minuted’ meeting with all the division 2 Captains last Monday at Mere to iron out a few issues and grumbles specifically raised in division two matches. The ‘minutes’ are added to the end of these official minutes. The meeting went well, was well received as intended by the Secretary and an open discussion resolved the previous issues and has hopefully set the tone for the future.

The league Treasurer and Secretary had continued to chase up the highest qualified referee in the area (Steve Starkie) in order to arrange an ‘input night’. The dates offered to Steve are the 6 th and 13th of February and then any Wednesday after the 17th of April. The proposed format is 7.30pm start at Wilmslow Conservative club (a) a general introduction and housekeeping (b) introduction by you about general matters including stance, positioning



and control (c) a frame of snooker between the Secretary and Treasurer where ‘all sorts’ occur – at each juncture, the play will stop and you will tell us all what to do about the situations arising (d) a general question and answer session with Steve. All qualified league referees will be expected to attend if at all possible and everyone else (particularly those interested in becoming qualified referees) is encouraged to attend. As soon as a date is fixed it will be circulated.

The Secretary said that despite the many simpler ways of getting a match card to him (than there were in the not too distant past) some teams are still sending their cards by post and indeed, posting their cards several days after matches – particularly the Tuesday matches. The Secretary spends his own time in evenings inputting the cards and results and there are now 2 websites the league uses and therefore, double the time. This is not an issue if cards are received timely but it becomes frustrating for all when the same team cards are not late (as the existing rules state they have to be received by first post Monday) but not – shall we say – as soon as they could be. The Secretary gave examples of (a) teams playing matches and then driving past his front door after a game and NOT dropping the card off (b) cards being hand delivered on Monday morning – suggesting they had been mislaid (c) cards being posted on Saturday after a Tuesday match (d) cards hand delivered at 11pm etc. Whilst appreciating that captains like to keep their own records etc this should not be at the cost of inconveniencing him (and family) and he therefore suggested that the cards should be completed more accurately and sent to him more timely and suggested a change in the league rule 32.1 (currently states “cards to reach the Secretary by 4pm on Monday following the match”) to read “Both captains must ensure that their score cards reach the League Secretary no later than 48 hours after the conclusion of their match” and rule 32.2 (currently talks about accepting signed email copies or personal delivery before 10.30pm etc) to read “Emails or text messages including a photo or scanned copy of the scorecards are acceptable proof of scores and personal delivery of cards to the home address of the Secretary are only accepted prior to 10.15pm”. The second point is particularly relevant as pretty much everyone has a mobile phone and almost every phone has a camera on it. If captains simply took a clear photo of the match card, attached it to a text and sent it to the Secretary at the end of their match, then they would get it to the Secretary much faster, save the 50p postage every game and still have a copy for their own records. After debate it was agreed to put these changes to the AGM as Management Committee proposals. Details of how to send a photo message to the Secretary have been placed on the kadasl.com website on the current season page for reference: (1) take a clear photo on your mobile device (2) navigate to your devices photo folder (3) open the photo of the scorecard in question (4) check the photo is clear (5) select 'options' and one will be something on the lines of 'send as a message' (6) select this option (7) put the Secretary’s contact details in the 'send to' box (8) send the text

The Secretary introduced a discussion regarding the league officers Honoraria. At the last AGM the amounts agreed were: Secretary £865, Trophy / Competition Secretary £270 and Treasurer £140. The Secretary suggested that with the league agreeing to stay with the 2 websites and in light of him seeing the Trophy / Comps Secretary job at closer quarters etc he had looked at the amounts at present and felt a realignment was worthy of consideration. After discussion it was agreed that the officers should meet outside of this meeting to bring some proposals to the next meeting. It was agreed that the Treasurer and Trophy / Comps secretary amounts should not reduce and that the only issue was how much the Secretary’s amount should increase. Honoraria is paid in arrears so if it is agreed at the 2012-3 AGM it is for ‘work’ done in the 2013-4 season.

The Secretary said that he had been contacted by several players regarding issues surrounding teams failing to turn out a full team and suggesting possible solutions. A discussion followed regarding those suggested ‘solutions’. He said that any solution must be to penalise the team short; to give attending players from the ‘full team’ a game; to stop the distortion of the league tables and scoring and suggested (a) Put the players present for the ‘short’ team into a hat (obviously if it was a team of 5 players then you'd have to leave player 5 out because they'd already be playing at that time) (b) draw out 1 or 2 players from the hat depending on if the team is 1 or 2 players short (c) they play your present players as written down on the scorecard. (b) Add 70-0 per blank frame to the aggregate for the ‘full’ team (c) play and score the 'blank' frames as per normal. A discussion followed and it was agreed unanimously that whilst the sentiments were well intended, the practicalities are far from simple. In the few minutes of debate, at least 6 issues were raised and it was therefore agreed unanimously that the existing rules should be persevered with in preference to the unworkable solution suggested.

The Secretary said that he had been contacted by the English Association of Snooker and Billiards (EASB) and International Snooker and Billiards Federation (IBSF) regarding their Development Coaching Award that is being held locally on Saturday and Sunday the 23rd and 24th of March 2013 at Silktown Snooker, Green St, Macclesfield, Cheshire SK10 1JQ. The course is aimed at those who have a genuine passion for, and understanding of, the game and are motivated to help develop the sport by passing on their enthusiasm and know how. The course is priced at £245 and has a rigorous pass criterion and carries the credibility of an internationally recognised coaching qualification with IBSF Approval. Candidates must have a playing standard appropriate to correctly demonstrate correct technique. This will require an ability to demonstrate certain skills which will be shared on video as part of your pre course study pack and candidates must apply for and submit an enhanced disclosure CRB check prior to the course. Course Content includes: How to get the message across: Teaching methods and communication. Structuring of individual and group lessons. Designing a coaching programme and how to administrate it. Running tournaments and events. Technique of the game. Child Protection and Safeguarding. Drills and practice routines to use within your coaching sessions. There is a Development Coach Certificate – subject to passing course criteria and resource pack containing templates for lesson plans, tournaments and contracts. Further Information: The course will be demanding, and does not carry an automatic pass. Your technical knowledge, ability to demonstrate, and communication skills will be tested and rated. For any delegates who may not pass, a summary will be given as to what areas need to be worked on before attending the next training – which will be at reduced cost. The course is recognised and approved by the IBSF – meaning the certificate is valid anywhere in the world. It is the first step of a 4 level coaching system that culminates with Coach Examiner status. All 4 levels are recognised by EASB. The Secretary suggested that perhaps the league could subsidise places on the course in agreement for reduced coaching sessions and cascade training by any delegates. After discussion it was agreed that the league would subsidise a maximum of 3 onto the course (if space is available) paying £145 towards the cost on the proviso that those on it allocated at least 1 evening per month to free coaching sessions in league clubs (details to be agreed later). Paul Townsend and Tony Crompton volunteered to attend the course – Secretary to enquire.

The Officers had agreed to create a league calendar for each club to display in its snooker area or on their snooker noticeboard. The cost was minimal and the quality high and these were handed out to club reps at the Division 2 meeting last week and the remaining calendars to reps at tonight’s meeting. The calendar contains a selection of league photos in a montage for each month. League dates are highlighted too. These were handed out, accepted by all and the effort in producing them appreciated by all.

The Secretary asked what may be an obvious question “Are Life Members effectively pre-registered each season?” Albeit not in name, everyone agreed that the answer was ‘yes’. The Secretary therefore added that rule 1.4 says that ‘all players must be fully paid up members of the club they represent’ and rule 51.4 says ‘’Life membership of the league comes with no privileges’. It was agreed that we do not need to change any rules but will interpret the existing rules to allow Life Members to play in the league for any league club without separately registering. He will list them above the registered player section for ease and clarification.

The Secretary reminded everyone (for express passing to their teams etc) that self bought drinks are not for consuming at host clubs. The clubs provide free facilities on the understanding that attendees purchase drinks etc from them. The practice has crept in lately so please stop this as quickly.

The League Secretary said that it would be very useful for him to know when anyone changes their mobile number so that they can be contacted as required rather than players complaining that they have not received information. The Secretary then asked all present to text through their player numbers to the Secretary for further possible use.

Steve Power informed all that Ken Dunne, a former league player at Knutsford Cons, had sadly passed away.

Steve Power reminded all that matches should start at 8pm. A general debate followed regarding the laxity of some teams and players in relation to timing – eg players going to the bar or toilet when tables become available instead of before; also teams starting at 8.09pm instead of 8pm etc. All agreed to tighten things up again.

Derek Street said that the existing Knutsford Cons B team who play at Brook Street, want to move to Mobberley next season. As Mobberley have 4 teams already, they would have to play on Wednesday night at home. Alan Williams, the team captain, was present and agreed to this. Agreed unanimously – particularly as we can ill afford to lose teams – and Secretary to note for fixtures etc.

Geoff Jackson raised the issue of players being able to, effectively, play for any of their club teams. Whilst his sentiments were noted, the fact is that there are several league rules that prevent this. It was agreed that Geoff should bring firm proposals to the next meeting on the subject for the committee to consider.

The draws for the Bert Astles pairs; JME Pairs; Taylor Trophy and 3 Player competitions were then made. The draw for the Young Player comp will be made tomorrow night to allow Mobberley chance to chase up a couple of potential entrants.


Monday 25th March 2013 at 8pm at Mobberley

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Mobberley, Morley, Shaw Heath, Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Brook Street, Mere

AGM rota:

Mere, Mobberley, Wilmslow Cons (65th Anniversary), Morley, Shaw Heath, Brook Street, Wilmslow RBL

Life Members

Arthur Hasford / Bruce Tulley / David Nuttall / David Rainford / Francis Evans / Geoff Owen / Mervyn Pike / Peter Watson / Rob Clarke / Ronnie Tagg / Tony Crompton

Barry Lineham / Brian Mitchell / David Potter / David Sykes / Geoff Sharpe / John Sproston / John Thompson / Ray Dale / Sid Jones / Steve Redwood


Brook Street (incorporating Knutsford Cons)

Adrian Hough / Adrian Smith / Alan Williams / Andy Long / Ashley Parker / Bob Jones / Brian Lomas / Carl Prince / Chris Parker / Dave Taylor / Dennis Robinson / Francis Evans / Gary Long / Geoff Sharpe / Geoff Taylor / Harry Halsall / Herbert Hope / John Prince / Kevin Harrison / Kevin Holman / Martin Sharpe / Neil Greer / Paul Langley / Phil Willocks / Rick Peers / Sam Pointon / Simon Nixon / Steve Elstone / Steven Bloor / Steve Power / Steve Prosser / Tom Birtles

Mere

Alan Greenaway / Alex Wright / Allen Jackson / Antony Jackson / Arthur Hasford / Chris Bushell / Daniel Pollard / David Jackson / Eddie Wakefield / Geoff Jackson / Geoff Owen / James Owen / Jamie Flood / Jesse Oldfield / John Jackson / Joe Gates / Josh Flood / Mark Hampson / Mark Murphy / Matthew Owen / Maurice Garvey / Mike Dufton / Philip Simpson / Richard Jones / Richard Owen / Sam Jackson / Sam Riley / Sid Jones / Simon Lowndes / Syd Antrobus / Terry Riley / Thomas Jackson / Tom Smith / Will Blackburn / Will Bushell

Mobberley

Adam McNeil / Bob Spilsbury / Bruce Tulley / Chris Clarke / Chris McNeil / Derek Street / Eddie Oldfield / Ian Paton / Jeff Gorton / Josh Street / Keith Wallis / Ken Davies / Leung Yu / Luke Bevans / Mark Newall / Mervyn Pike / Mike Gittins / Nick Brown / Nigel Hodson / Paul Adkin / Paul Hodson / Paul Kubiak / Peter Hargreaves / Peter Turner / Ralph Waite / Ray Dale / Robert Spilsbury / Scott Mills / Steve Bond / Steve Flinders / Terry Norman / Tony Crompton / Wayne Hammond

Morley

David Coates / Derek Stubbs / Gareth Clayton / George Antrobus / Jason Robinson / Nigel Woodall / Paul Hart / Rob Antrobus / Seb Jackson / Steve Stubbs / Will Bennett

Royal London

Adam Drinkwater / Alan Beeley / Andy Morris / Ben Harney / Daniel Dauer / Fred Harris / Greg Jennings / James Nash / Jeremy Straker / John Beeley / Mark Baker / Nick Riley / Pete Hodge / Rick Goldsmith / Simon McMahon / Steve Barnes / Steven Sharples / Tim Carragher

Shaw Heath

Andy Yates / Ben Cook / Bradley Williams / Chris Jackson / Dave Jenyons / Dave MacDonald / Dave Mullins / Dave Rainford / Dave Whitehead / Gareth Williams / Glenn Marshall / Ian Carr / James West / Jamie Way / John Beattie / John Dale / Leighton Lathrope / Mark Evans / Mark Jenyons / Mike Christison / Mike Thorp / Nathan Weightman / Richard Hammond / Ricky Blake / Sandy Stockton / Scott Marshall / Scott Beattie / Steve Jenyons / Steve Thorp / Stuart Valentine / Vic Mullins

Tatton


Wilmslow Cons

Alan Conduit / Alan Potts / Andy Stott / Charlie Williams / Dave Bayley / David Nuttall / Dave Patterson / David Slater / Frank Griffith / Glyn Batten / Graham Kitson / Ian Clarke / Irvine MacDonald / Jim Sinclair / John Higgins / John Percival / Jonathan Smith / Kevin Shackleton / Mark Anderson / Mike Sullivan / Nick Thompson / Peter Butler / Peter Stakes / Peter Watson / Ralph Robertson / Richard Bayley / Richard Porter / Will Bell


Adam O’Neill / Andy Kelly / Brendan Townsend / Carl Brookfield / Dave McClure / Dave Wallington / Jake O’Neill / James Coggins / Joe Street / Jay Featherstone / John O’Neill / Peter O’Neill / Stephen Flannery

AGM Items

6. The Management Committee have proposed a change to league rule 32.1:



7. The Management Committee have proposed a change to league rule 32.2


Proposed to change to read “Emails or text messages including a photo or scanned copy of the scorecards are acceptable proof of scores and personal delivery of cards to the home address of the Secretary are only accepted prior to 10.15pm”.

LEAGUE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING on Monday 25 th March 2013 at Mobberley Memorial Club

1 - Attendance:

League Officers:

League Secretary: Tony CromptonChairperson: Steve Power (Apologies)Competition / Trophy Secretary: Tony CromptonTreasurer: Dave NuttallPresident: Sid Jones (Not present)Vice-President: Geoff Jackson

League Clubs:

Brook Street: Bob JonesMere: Geoff JacksonMobberley: Tony CromptonMorley: NoneRoyal London: Alan BeeleyShaw Heath: Chris JacksonTatton: Rob ClarkeWilmslow Cons: Dave NuttallWilmslow RBL: None


Alan Williams; Kevin Shackleton; Paul Townsend; Steve Power; James Nash; Andy Long



Accepted as a true and accurate account of the meeting. Proposed by Geoff Jackson and Seconded by Alan Beeley. Of those present at the last meeting, all in favour, none against and no abstentions.



27. The league refereeing input night has now been arranged for the end of April due to Steve Starkie’s lack of availability: “Hi Dave. Apologies for the delay in getting back to you, I’ve been unbelievably busy both home and abroad. For example; All Ireland Championships 25th Jan to 4th February; 2 Tournaments in Chesterfield last weekend; Hosting the European Tutors seminar in Stockport this coming weekend 25 Tutors from all over Europe attending; Seminar for 8 referees in Croatia 1st weekend in March; and lastly 18th to 28th March .. Serbia for the European Under 21 and team Championships. I really think that your league’s seminar will have to be in April. I will speak to you and confirm a date prior to going to Serbia. Regards, Steve Starkie.” The proposed format is 7.30pm start at Wilmslow Conservative club (a) a general introduction and housekeeping

(b) introduction by you about general matters including stance, positioning and control (c) a frame of snooker between the Secretary and Treasurer where ‘all sorts’ occur – at each juncture, the play will stop and you will tell us all what to do about the situations arising (d) a general question and answer session with Steve. All qualified league referees will be expected to attend if at all possible and everyone else (particularly those interested in becoming qualified referees) is encouraged to attend. As soon as a date is fixed the Secretary will circulate it.

28. The officers were tasked with meeting outside of the management meeting regarding the league officers Honoraria. They proposed that the Competitions / Trophy Secretary and Treasurer roles remain unaltered at £270 and £140 and the Secretarys should increase to £975. All in favour, none against, no abstentions – proposal will be put to the AGM as a Management Meeting proposal.


29. No disciplinary matters to discuss.

30. Morley and RBL have not sent a representative to tonight’s meeting and will therefore have a point deducted from their teams.

31. No matters of dispute to discuss.

32. The following new registrations were raised and accepted – no objections.

33. Brook Street: none34. Mere: none35. Mobberley: none36. Morley: none37. Royal London: Stuart Twibell and Lawrence Hodge38. Shaw Heath: none39. Tatton: none40. Wilmslow Cons: Dave Wilkinson and Alan Hardy41. Wilmslow RBL: none


Ed Wakefield of Mere Parish club has been proposed for Life Membership of the league. The following information had been received from Geoff Jackson: Eddie Wakefield, also known as “AA Eddie” (from his working days) has been playing in our league since at least the mid-seventies. He has captained and supported the players at Mere over all that time and has been at the forefront of encouraging the young players to play and develop their game at the club with a view to getting involved in the league. He is now nearly 70 years young and still playing weekly until recently to keep the Jacksons on our toes! His help and support to all players at Mere is more than just helpful - it has been invaluable. To our mind, the league needs people and players like Eddie equally as much as Eddie clearly needs the league. We feel that the honour of league Life Membership should be considered for him”. After brief discussion it was agreed to put Ed forward to the AGM for consideration.

42. There is a proposal from Kevin Shackleton to change rule 15.5 from ‘Teams playing in the first division will play on Thursday nights with the possible exception of where there are more than 2 teams from that club in that division’ to ‘Teams playing in the first division will normally play on Thursday nights. Exceptions may be made to ensure the continuity and smooth running of the league’. All in favour, none against, no abstentions – proposal will be put to the AGM as a Management Meeting proposal.

43. Tatton club have pointed out that there will be some restrictions next season as to when we can hold competition matches. They are happy to get in contact with the competitions secretary before next season to discuss this. They don't want to say no to holding competitions, but they do also need to consider our own members also. That

means restricting nights when members will not be able to get a game. Geoff Jackson to liaise when in post and the Secretary will ask all clubs the same question at the pre-season formation meeting.

44. Tatton also endorse the proposal above re division one night change (prior to the meeting).

45. Finally, Paul Townsend had emailed the Secretary and mentioned the coaching course completed by him and the Secretary. He felt it will be greatly beneficial to the league and hoped that members of any ability can see that they are very likely to benefit from attending any of the sessions held in the future. The Secretary added some details of the course and that he had agreed with Paul to split responsibilities for league clubs with Paul dealing with those from Shaw Heath to Mere and Tony having those from Mobberley to Royal London.

46. The Secretary raised a debate about the future viability of the league and highlighted what he saw as the ‘threats’ to it:

1. An ever-increasing average age per player2. Interest for the younger players in terms of speed of match and variety of game3. Teams leaving due to failing to get a full regular squad4. Clubs not getting enough revenue throughout the week and therefore reducing or removing facilities

47. The Secretary suggested a very radical change to our structure that he felt would address all of the issues mentioned:

1. A change of team numbers from 6 to 4. This makes it far easier to get a regular and reliable squad and for the ‘sociable’ players and teams to continue. That in turn should not only help us retain teams who are currently faltering (Mere C and Royal London) but greatly increase overall team numbers.

2. Increased team numbers means we would have to increase the number of match nights to include Wednesdays. Revenue streams would obviously increase due to players practicing and playing for longer.

3. The Secretary said he could comfortably see Mobberley increasing team numbers from 5 to at least 7 in this format; Brook Street up from 2 to 3; Mere from 3 to 4; Wilmslow Cons from 3 to 4; Tatton from 1 to 2; Shaw Heath from 2 to 3; Morley from 1 to 2; Royal London remaining but at a solid 1 team; RBL putting 2 teams in. If all this happened we would have 28 teams.

4. The ‘team’ however could consist of up to 6 different players and giving captains the flexibility to have (for arguments sake) a player who plays in the pool league, coming in and play one of the 6 reds frames and leave or if they are short. This may be a good way to get more young players involved?

5. Matches would consist of 2 x pairs games first; 2 x 6 reds frames in the middle; 2 x full snooker frames at the end. This would provide variety for all and should see matches finish slightly faster than at present.

6. Players would be registered to a TEAM and could not move around during a season unless there were serious issues and the committee agreed. CLUBS would register 4 players to a team and then register ‘pool players’ (players who don’t want to play regular but never want their club to ‘play short’) who could be selected a maximum number of times (eg 4) for any one club team.

48. John Jackson had also submitted a proposed format change which after brief discussion was unworkable.

49. A lengthy debate followed and it was agreed to propose to the membership that: the first third of the 2013-4 division 2 season be run on the experimental grounds of the first 2 frames being ‘6 Reds’ format; the middle 2 frames being ‘standard snooker frames’ and the final 2 frames being ‘pairs’ matches. Any rules affecting such a change would be suspended for the duration of the experiment and teams would be able to also fill ‘empty frames’ with players who had already played (thus giving teams of 4 or 5 a full match). Brook Street abstained, none against and the rest in favour – the proposal will be put to the AGM as a Management Meeting proposal.

8 Trophies / Competitions Secretary

Tony said that the competitions were all being completed or advanced without great issue other than the large number of Shaw Heath players failing to turn up for matches. Indeed Shaw Heath A failed to play in the Team KO cup; Dave Rainford in the Jay and Rotary; Richie Hammond in the Rotary; Leighton Lathrope & Mark Evans,

Dave Rainford & John Dale, Scott Marshall & Chris Jackson and Mark Jenyons & Dave Mullins in the Pairs; Scott Marshall & Chris Jackson, Dave McDonald & Gareth Williams and Leighton Lathrope & Mark Evans in the JME Pairs; Dave McDonald in the Jay; and someone in the division 2 Redwood Hire (name deleted). That means that out of a total of 21 walk-overs (reduced to 16 due to the Secretary being notified well in advance of the game by some players), Shaw Heath accounted for 12. The Secretary said that there is something seriously not right and asked the Shaw Heath rep to respond. Chris said that he had noted the poor attendance in competitions and that he was aware of the valid reasons for such. He was also aware of several invalid non-attendances. He assured the league that he would address the issue internally at his club well in advance of the entry deadline for next season’s competitions.

Tony said he had made significant inroads into achieving a better deal for the league for the trophies and the considerable Honours Board engraving plates annually. He hoped to have the cost come in under last season’s whilst managing to update and correct all the honours boards and get better trophies to boot.

Tony said he was well into the process of transferring the role to Geoff Jackson in advance of the new season with a folder of documents and help sheets.

8 - Treasurer

50. A screenshot of the league’s bank account is pasted below for the records:

51. Dave Nuttall reported: Gentlemen. The last quarters spend has been understandably modest focussing on - coaching course for 2 members and reduced price trophies secured by the Secretary to analyse the quality etc. If these trophies come up to scratch we will purchase at year end and hopefully save money over last year.All first half fees have been collected. The next quarters outlay will be considerable due to year end honoraria and trophy purchases. The current balance is £3,934.72 Thank you.

52. The Secretary showed those present a training cue he had taken the liberty of purchasing for coaching sessions. The cost of the 2 cues plus a practice drills handbook was £130 which the committee agreed would be reimbursed to him on email confirmation.


The Secretary reminded the officers to send their draft AGM reports to him asap.



AGM and prize presentations at Mere Parish club on Thursday 25th April 2013 at 8pm

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Morley, Shaw Heath, Wilmslow Cons, Wilmslow RBL, Brook Street, Mere, Mobberley

AGM rota:


Life Members

Arthur Hasford / Bruce Tulley / David Nuttall / David Rainford / Francis Evans / Geoff Owen / Mervyn Pike / Peter Watson / Rob Clarke / Ronnie Tagg / Tony Crompton

Barry Lineham / Brian Mitchell / David Potter / David Sykes / Geoff Sharpe / John Sproston / John Thompson / Ray Dale / Sid Jones / Steve Redwood


Brook Street (incorporating Knutsford Cons)

Adrian Hough / Adrian Smith / Alan Williams / Andy Long / Ashley Parker / Bob Jones / Brian Lomas / Carl Prince / Chris Parker / Dave Taylor / Dennis Robinson / Francis Evans / Gary Long / Geoff Sharpe / Geoff Taylor / Harry Halsall / Herbert Hope / John Prince / Kevin Harrison / Kevin Holman / Martin Sharpe / Neil Greer / Paul Langley / Phil Willocks / Rick Peers / Sam Pointon / Simon Nixon / Steve Elstone / Steven Bloor / Steve Power / Steve Prosser / Tom Birtles

Mere

Alan Greenaway / Alex Wright / Allen Jackson / Antony Jackson / Arthur Hasford / Chris Bushell / Daniel Pollard / David Jackson / Eddie Wakefield / Geoff Jackson / Geoff Owen / James Owen / Jamie Flood / Jesse



Oldfield / John Jackson / Joe Gates / Josh Flood / Mark Hampson / Mark Murphy / Matthew Owen / Maurice Garvey / Mike Dufton / Philip Simpson / Richard Jones / Richard Owen / Sam Jackson / Sam Riley / Sid Jones / Simon Lowndes / Syd Antrobus / Terry Riley / Thomas Jackson / Tom Smith / Will Blackburn / Will Bushell

Mobberley

Adam McNeil / Bob Spilsbury / Bruce Tulley / Chris Clarke / Chris McNeil / Derek Street / Eddie Oldfield / Ian Paton / Jeff Gorton / Josh Street / Keith Wallis / Ken Davies / Leung Yu / Luke Bevans / Mark Newall / Mervyn Pike / Mike Gittins / Nick Brown / Nigel Hodson / Paul Adkin / Paul Hodson / Paul Kubiak / Peter Hargreaves / Peter Turner / Ralph Waite / Ray Dale / Robert Spilsbury / Scott Mills / Steve Bond / Steve Flinders / Terry Norman / Tony Crompton / Wayne Hammond

Morley

David Coates / Derek Stubbs / Gareth Clayton / George Antrobus / Jason Robinson / Nigel Woodall / Paul Hart / Rob Antrobus / Seb Jackson / Steve Stubbs / Will Bennett

Royal London

Adam Drinkwater / Alan Beeley / Andy Morris / Ben Harney / Daniel Dauer / Fred Harris / Greg Jennings / James Nash / Jeremy Straker / John Beeley / Lawrence Hodge / Mark Baker / Nick Riley / Pete Hodge / Rick Goldsmith / Simon McMahon / Steve Barnes / Steven Sharples / Stuart Twibell / Tim Carragher

Shaw Heath

Andy Yates / Ben Cook / Bradley Williams / Chris Jackson / Dave Jenyons / Dave MacDonald / Dave Mullins / Dave Rainford / Dave Whitehead / Gareth Williams / Glenn Marshall / Ian Carr / James West / Jamie Way / John Beattie / John Dale / Leighton Lathrope / Mark Evans / Mark Jenyons / Mike Christison / Mike Thorp / Nathan Weightman / Richard Hammond / Ricky Blake / Sandy Stockton / Scott Marshall / Scott Beattie / Steve Jenyons / Steve Thorp / Stuart Valentine / Vic Mullins

Tatton


Wilmslow Cons

Alan Conduit / Alan Hardy / Alan Potts / Andy Stott / Charlie Williams / Dave Bayley / David Nuttall / Dave Patterson / Dave Wilkinson / David Slater / Frank Griffith / Glyn Batten / Graham Kitson / Ian Clarke / Irvine MacDonald / Jim Sinclair / John Higgins / John Percival / Jonathan Smith / Kevin Shackleton / Mark Anderson / Mike Sullivan / Nick Thompson / Peter Butler / Peter Stakes / Peter Watson / Ralph Robertson / Richard Bayley / Richard Porter / Will Bell


Adam O’Neill / Andy Kelly / Brendan Townsend / Carl Brookfield / Dave McClure / Dave Wallington / Jake O’Neill / James Coggins / Joe Street / Jay Featherstone / John O’Neill / Peter O’Neill / Stephen Flannery

AGM Items

8. The Management Committee have proposed a change to league rule 32.1:



9. The Management Committee have proposed a change to league rule 32.2


Proposed to change to read “Emails or text messages including a photo or scanned copy of the scorecards are acceptable proof of scores. Personal delivery of cards to the home address of the Secretary are only accepted prior to 10.15pm”.

10. The Management Committee have proposed a change in the league officers Honoraria:

At the 2011-12 AGM the amounts agreed were: Secretary £865, Trophy / Competition Secretary £270 and Treasurer £140. Honoraria is paid in arrears so if it is agreed at the 2012-3 AGM it is for ‘work’ done in the 2013-4 season.

The Management Committee feels that these amounts should be: Secretary £975, Trophy / Competition Secretary £270 and Treasurer £140.

11. There is a proposal from Kevin Shackleton to change rule 15.5

From: ‘Teams playing in the first division will play on Thursday nights with the possible exception of where there are more than 2 teams from that club in that division’

To: ‘Teams playing in the first division will normally play on Thursday nights. Exceptions may be made to ensure the continuity and smooth running of the league’

12. Ed Wakefield of Mere Parish club has been proposed for Life Membership of the league.

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