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Page 1: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

Unwind Drive Cooling Fan

©Bill Kilbey 2009

Page 2: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan

• Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor shaft

• The fan is subject to buildup of dirt/product• 1x TS dominant with amplitudes increasing• Attempt to balance was not successful

– Varying amplitude 1mil pk-pk to 7mils pk-pk– Unstable phase ±100⁰

Page 3: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor
Page 4: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor
Page 5: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

High 1x TSS1 - WINDER UNWIND DR COOLING FAN

2PM UDCF -BH MTR. INBOARD BRG. HORIZ.

Route Spectrum 16-Oct-09 09:21:49

OVERALL= .7546 V-DG PK = .7514 LOAD = 100.0 RPM = 1770. (29.50 Hz)

0 20000 40000 60000 80000

0

0.2

0.4

0.6

0.8

1.0

Frequency in CPM

PK

Vel

oci

ty in

In/S

ec

Freq: Ordr: Spec:

1822.5 1.030 .699

Page 6: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

Unsuccessful balance attempt

• Amplitude and phase both unstable• I tried the lowest filter band % on the tach,

still no luck

Page 7: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

High Resolution SpectrumS1 - WINDER UNWIND DR COOLING FAN

2PM UDCF -AH MTR. OUTBOARD BRG. HORIZ.

Analyze Spectrum 16-Oct-09 09:15:17

PK = .6680 LOAD = 100.0 RPM = 1770. (29.50 Hz)

0 3000 6000 9000 12000

0

0.1

0.2

0.3

0.4

0.5

0.6

0.7

0.8

0.9

Frequency in CPM

PK

Vel

oci

ty in

In/S

ec

Freq: Ordr: Spec:

1773.7 1.002 .638

Page 8: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

High Resolution Spectrum ZoomS1 - WINDER UNWIND DR COOLING FAN

2PM UDCF -AH MTR. OUTBOARD BRG. HORIZ.

Analyze Spectrum 16-Oct-09 09:17:00

P-P = 8.38 LOAD = 100.0 RPM = 1770. (29.50 Hz)

1740 1760 1780 1800 1820

0

3

6

9

12

Frequency in CPM

P-P

Dis

pla

cem

ent

in M

ils

1773

.0

1768

.8

Freq: Ordr: Spec:

1769.1 .999 1.624

Page 9: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

Spectrum from other cooling fanS1 - WINDER UNWIND DR COOLING FAN

3PM UDCF -AH MOTOR OUTBOARD BRG HORZ.

Analyze Spectrum 16-Oct-09 09:27:06

PK = .3501 LOAD = 100.0 FPM = 3540. (1770. RPM)

1750 1760 1770 1780 1790 1800 1810

0

0.05

0.10

0.15

0.20

0.25

0.30

0.35

Frequency in CPM

PK

Vel

oci

ty in

In/S

ec

1769

.3

1773

.1

Freq: Ordr: Spec:

1772.8 1.002 .204

Page 10: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

Calculations

• 1773.1 – 1769.3 = 3.8 RPM Delta (.063 Hz)• The inverse of Diff. F1-F2 = T beat• T beat = 15.8 secs. approx.

Page 11: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

Time waveform beat on #2S1 - WINDER UNWIND DR COOLING FAN

2PM UDCF -AH MTR. OUTBOARD BRG. HORIZ.

Analyze Waveform 16-Oct-09 09:15:17

RMS = .2380 LOAD = 100.0 RPM = 1770. (29.50 Hz)

PK(+) = .5407 PK(-) = .6437 CRESTF= 2.70

0 4 8 12 16 20 24 28 32

-0.8

-0.6

-0.4

-0.2

0.0

0.2

0.4

0.6

Time in Seconds

Acc

eler

atio

n in

G-s

Page 12: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

Time waveform beat on #3S1 - WINDER UNWIND DR COOLING FAN

3PM UDCF -AH MOTOR OUTBOARD BRG HORZ.

Analyze Waveform 16-Oct-09 09:27:06

RMS = .1311 LOAD = 100.0 FPM = 3540. (1770. RPM)

PK(+) = .2954 PK(-) = .3219 CRESTF= 2.46

0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70

-0.4

-0.3

-0.2

-0.1

0.0

0.1

0.2

0.3

0.4

Time in Seconds

Acc

eler

atio

n in

G-s

Time: Ampl: Dtim: Freq:

37.73 .201 15.63 3.838

approx. 15 sec beat

Page 13: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

#2 PM Fan

#3 PM Fan

Page 14: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

Conclusions• The cooling fans are exciting resonances of the

respective motor and foundation. You can feel the vibration and beat in the floor.

• The 2 fan speeds are beating, they are physically locate 30’ apart.

• Band filter on tach is not fine enough to separate 4 RPM.

• Rebalance attempt on day when both can be shut down.

• Investigate foundation and structure for resonance.

Page 15: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

Update 11/3/09

• #2 is shut down, so no beat. Can not shut down #3 for balance.

• Data shows bearing may be slightly loose in housing.– RBPF and 1x TS sidebands have increased– PeakVue has High 1x TS and small bearing defects.

• Looseness may contribute to phase/amp instability.

Page 16: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

Balance Reference Run

• Original with beat 5.5 mils @ 236• Today with no beat 3.3 mils @135

Page 17: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

Rotor Bar Pass Freq. w/sidebands 1xTS

RM

S A

ccel

erat

ion

in G

-s

Frequency in Orders

S1 - WINDER UNWIND DR COOLING FAN3PM UDCF -AH MOTOR OUTBOARD BRG HORZ.

0 30 60 90 120

Max Amp .91

Plot Scale

0

1.0

09:38:0203-Nov-09

11:07:0917-Jul-09

16:57:4503-Feb-09

Page 18: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

S1 - WINDER UNWIND DR COOLING FAN3PM UDCF -AH MOTOR OUTBOARD BRG HORZ.

Route Spectrum 03-Nov-09 09:38:02

OVERALL= .3221 V-DG RMS = 1.12 LOAD = 100.0 FPM = 3542. (1771. RPM)

0 10 20 30 40 50

0

0.3

0.6

0.9

1.2

Frequency in Orders

RM

S A

ccel

erat

ion

in G

-s

32.0

433

.04

35.1

036

.11

37.1

0

Ordr: Freq: Spec:

1.000 1770.8 .09982

Page 19: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

S1 - WINDER UNWIND DR COOLING FAN3PM UDCF -AH MOTOR OUTBOARD BRG HORZ.

Route Spectrum 03-Nov-09 09:38:02

OVERALL= .3221 V-DG RMS = 1.11 LOAD = 100.0 FPM = 3542. (1771. RPM)

28 32 36 40 44

0

0.3

0.6

0.9

1.2

Frequency in Orders

RM

S A

ccel

erat

ion

in G

-s

32.0

4

33.0

4

35.1

0

36.1

1

37.1

0

Ordr: Freq: Spec: Dord:

37.15 65792. .238 1.018

Page 20: Unwind Drive Cooling Fan ©Bill Kilbey 2009. High 1x Cooling Motor/Fan Motor/fan sit on top of large variable speed motor, fan mounted directly on motor

PeakVue 1x TS and harmonicsS1 - WINDER UNWIND DR COOLING FAN

3PM UDCF -AH MOTOR OUTBOARD BRG HORZ.

Analyze Spectrum 03-Nov-09 09:38:26 (PkVue- HP 500 Hz)

RMS = .6700 LOAD = 100.0 FPM = 3540. (1770. RPM)

0 2 4 6 8 10

0

0.1

0.2

0.3

0.4

0.5

0.6

Frequency in Orders

RM

S A

ccel

erat

ion

in G

-s

1.00

2.07

3.07

4.07

8.14

.07

1.07 2.

00

5.07

7.13

Ordr: Freq: Spec:

.996 1762.5 .412

2 x Line Frequency

BPFO

BSF