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Page 1: Transcript of Public Availibility meeting held on 10/25 ... · 2 imminent order of this natur teo put it out for public 3 comment, to get comments whether there's anything 4 inappropriate,

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In the Matter Of

EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING

MEETING

October 25 2012

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Superfund

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2 CHICAGO HEIGHTS BOULEVARD SITE

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1 MS YOUNG Good evening My name i s

2 Belinda Young Im with the Environmental Protection

3 Agency i n now Lenexa Kansas Im a Community

4 Involvement Coordinator i n the Office of Public A f f a i r s

5 So Im working with the public on t h i s project

6 If you received a f l y e r announcing t h i s

7 meeting my name i s l i s t e d on the contact portion on the

8 end I t s l i s t e d for general i n f o m a t i o n i f you want to

9 ask questions

10 To move quickly through t h i s portion I

11 would l i k e to recognize any elected o f f i c i a l s or t h e i r

12 representatives that may be i n the audience t h i s

13 evening I f not well move on

14 We can recognize that Dr P r u i t t i s here

15 with the NAACP so hes been getting information We

16 have representatives here from EPA as I said

17 We also have representatives from the

18 Missouri Department of Natural Resources the Missouri

19 Department of Health and Senior Services and the Agency

20 For Toxic Substances and Disease Registry They have

21 infom a t i o n that w i l l be available through our public

22 meeting t h i s evening

23 Comments provided at t h i s evenings meeting

24 w i l l be documented We have a court reporter EPA

25 began a 3 0-day public comment period that runs from

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1 October 18th through November 19th The comment period

2 i s related to an agreement between EPA and PerkinElmer

3 Incorporated to address contamination i n t h i s area

4 Information on that agreement can be found

5 i n several repositories i n the area The St Louis

6 County Library the Mid-County Library Indian T r a i l s

7 Library and at the EPA Region 7 website And we have

8 information i n our records center

9 The f a c i l i t a t o r for t h i s evening w i l l be

10 Shawn Grindstaff Were going to have a f a c i l i t a t e d

11 meeting As I said your comments w i l l be documented

12 The presenters for t h i s evening w i l l be

13 David Hoefer who i s our Regional Counsel at EPA He

14 w i l l be t a l k i n g about the le g a l agreement Then well

15 have Dan Gravatt H e l l give us a status update for the

16 s i t e and the next steps

17 We ask that you hold your comments and

18 questions u n t i l the presentations are ended I f youve

19 got some papers you can take notes as you move through

20 the presentations I f you need paper we have paper out

21 at the table

22 I f you didnt get a chance to sign i n on

23 those blue cards we dont want to overlook anybody We

24 want to make sure that we have everybody on our mailing

25 l i s t We want to include everybody

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1 The meeting t h i s evening i s part of our

2 community involvement process We want you to know the

3 EPA cares The EPA i s here to keep you well-informed

4 We encourage and enable the community to get involved

5 We l i s t e n to your comments

6 Other communities i n Region 7 have gotten

7 involved and sometimes the community decides to form a

8 community advisory group That group serves as a

9 l i a i s o n for comments and concerns that the community has

10 with EPA We want to make sure there are additional

11 processes that can help you to get involved

12 At t h i s point I l l turn the mic over to

13 Shawn Grindstaff our f a c i l i t a t o r for t h i s evening

14 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you very much Good

15 evening

16 I wanted to t e l l you a l i t t l e b i t about

17 myself f i r s t so that I can explain the role that I have

18 i n the meeting tonight

19 F a c i l i t a t o r what i t r e a l l y means tonight

20 i s that we want to be able to get through the meeting

21 and accomplish several d i f f e r e n t things Were kind of

22 r o l l i n g several things into one tonight So time i t

23 t i c k s away very fast for a l l of us so I want to make

24 sure we move from one thing to the other

25 Now the things that were going to do

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1 tonight the f i r s t part i s the presentations that you

2 w i l l hear The reason i s under federal law at t h i s

3 point under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act

4 which people c a l l e d RCRA there i s a piece of that law

5 that says at t h i s moment of the proposed settlement of

6 t h i s order that we speak to the public about t h i s and

7 that you have t h i s time period to comment

8 Thats a very formal process Thats why

9 we have the court reporter here And she w i l l be taking

10 down every word We need to get through that Thats

11 why I ask again l i k e Belinda said you can hold a l l

12 your questions and comments u n t i l the presentations are

13 over

14 Then Belinda and I w i l l have two mics I

15 know there are several people Espec i a l l y i n t h i s

16 church you might not be able to move about We w i l l

17 bring the mic to you At that point we w i l l go to

18 questions and comments

19 Then af t e r that because theres another

20 portion of the community that wants to speak p r i v a t e l y

21 and c o n f i d e n t i a l l y we have at the end of the meeting a

22 public a v a i l a b i l i t y session Well have broken-up areas

23 with d i f f e r e n t people i n d i f f e r e n t places So time w i l l

24 go by quickly

25 So that w i l l be my role i s to keep things

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1 moving quickly David and Dan are going to go ahead and

2 make the presentations Again i f you bear with me with

3 our d i f f e r e n t pieces of t h i s i t w i l l help

4 Ive been doing meetings l i k e t h i s l o t s of

5 d i f f e r e n t meetings for about 20 years Ive learned a

6 l o t of hard lessons

7 The thing Ive learned the most i s that

8 i t s important that everybody i n the community

9 everybody has a chance to t a l k i n t h e i r own way Some

10 want to t a l k p r i v a t e l y Some want to t a l k i n front of

11 others Were going to t r y to meet everybodys needs

12 tonight

13 Well go ahead and hand i t over to David

14 Thank you

15 MR HOEFER Good evening My name i s

16 David Hoefer Im an attorney with the Environmental

17 Protection Agency Ive worked with the company known

18 as PerkinElmer to come up with a settlement agreement

19 That i s what Im going to t a l k about

20 My presentation i s very b r i e f We have

21 th i s shy - i t s c a l l e d an Administrative Settlement

22 Agreement and Order on Consent I t s on our website

23 It s p u b l i c l y available The primary purpose of the

24 meeting i t s e l f i s to discuss get comments on t h i s

25 order

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1 We have a le g a l obligation when we have an

2 imminent order of t h i s nature to put i t out for public

3 comment to get comments whether theres anything

4 inappropriate improper or inadequate Thats my role

5 tonight

6 I worked with PerkinElmer on t h i s This i s

7 a l e g a l agreement As Shawn referenced theres a

8 couple statutory auth o r i t i e s that we use One that you

9 may have heard of before that i s a f a i r l y common statute

10 known as a superfund and thats the Comprehensive

11 Environmental Response Compensation and L i a b i l i t y Act

12 The other one i s RCRA Resource Conservation and

13 Recovery Act

14 So theres l e g a l authorities that we use

15 when we negotiate t h i s order And those are author i t i e s

that Congress made to us for resolutions l i k e we have i n 16

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18 We did t h i s i n very short order Dan I

19 think w i l l discuss how long the EPA has been involved

I t s not been very long 20

21 When we got involved I approached

22 PerkinElmer and we talked about We have a problem

23 here that needs to be addressed So i n very short

24 order we negotiated t h i s order I t was a very short

25 period of time In a very short period of time we

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1 negotiated t h i s order

2 I sent t h i s to PerkinElmer for negotiation

3 on September 14th We provided two weeks for

4 negotiations on t h i s I worked with t h e i r attorneys

I t was pretty intense during that two-week period to

6 come to t h i s agreement They signed i t on October 2nd

7 I t s not e f f e c t i v e u n t i l EPA signs i t EPA

8 w i l l not sign t h i s u n t i l i t s gone through public

9 comment The public comment period runs from l a s t week

I believe i t was October 18th through November 19th

11 So once we get through the public comment

12 period we w i l l evaluate the comments that we receive on

13 th i s to see i f t h i s i s s t i l l something that we want to

14 enter into with PerkinElmer or do we want to have i t

modified et cetera

16 That i s one of our purposes tonight i s to

17 fi n d out what the community thinks about t h i s agreement

18 This i s a f a i r l y technical document I t s

19 a very t y p i c a l document for these types of settlements

I t contains a l o t of b o i l e r p l a t e language i n here that

21 i s standard findings of fact I t gives the h i s t o r y of

22 the s i t e h i s t o r y of PerkinElmers involvement our

23 involvement et cetera

24 Probably the most-relevant portion of t h i s

for the community should be the Work section Theres

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1 a portion of t h i s that d e t a i l s what work PerkinElmer

2 w i l l be performing at t h i s s i t e

3 Just to be clear here t h i s i s a l e g a l

4 agreement legally-binding agreement And pursuant to

5 t h i s PerkinElmer i s agreeing to do cer t a i n a c t i v i t i e s

6 i n your community to ascertain the extent of the

7 contamination and to address the contamination So i t s

8 a very comprehensive agreement

9 Dan w i l l address the work requirements We

10 have phased work thats going to be performed under t h i s

11- order I t s quite a b i t of work I t s a very

12 comprehensive order very aggressive order

13 This becomes enforceable upon EPAs

14 signature Again we wont sign i t u n t i l the public

15 comment period i s over So i t w i l l be sometime around

16 Thanksgiving before we sign t h i s and i t a c t u a l l y becomes

17 operable

18 This i s again a legally-enforceable

19 agreement We have penalties that PerkinElmer has

20 agreed to There are also statutory penalties I f we

21 need to we can enforce t h i s i n federal court That i s

22 both with regard to penalties and with r e l i e f to make

23 sure the work i s performed

24 Let me say PerkinElmer -- I dont know i f

25 you know much about PerkinElmer We engaged them early

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

25 mic to each person

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

new to the process

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

work plans that w i l l describe exactly how theyre going

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

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10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

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20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

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chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

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c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

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c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

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copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

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d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

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d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

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1 MS YOUNG Good evening My name i s

2 Belinda Young Im with the Environmental Protection

3 Agency i n now Lenexa Kansas Im a Community

4 Involvement Coordinator i n the Office of Public A f f a i r s

5 So Im working with the public on t h i s project

6 If you received a f l y e r announcing t h i s

7 meeting my name i s l i s t e d on the contact portion on the

8 end I t s l i s t e d for general i n f o m a t i o n i f you want to

9 ask questions

10 To move quickly through t h i s portion I

11 would l i k e to recognize any elected o f f i c i a l s or t h e i r

12 representatives that may be i n the audience t h i s

13 evening I f not well move on

14 We can recognize that Dr P r u i t t i s here

15 with the NAACP so hes been getting information We

16 have representatives here from EPA as I said

17 We also have representatives from the

18 Missouri Department of Natural Resources the Missouri

19 Department of Health and Senior Services and the Agency

20 For Toxic Substances and Disease Registry They have

21 infom a t i o n that w i l l be available through our public

22 meeting t h i s evening

23 Comments provided at t h i s evenings meeting

24 w i l l be documented We have a court reporter EPA

25 began a 3 0-day public comment period that runs from

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1 October 18th through November 19th The comment period

2 i s related to an agreement between EPA and PerkinElmer

3 Incorporated to address contamination i n t h i s area

4 Information on that agreement can be found

5 i n several repositories i n the area The St Louis

6 County Library the Mid-County Library Indian T r a i l s

7 Library and at the EPA Region 7 website And we have

8 information i n our records center

9 The f a c i l i t a t o r for t h i s evening w i l l be

10 Shawn Grindstaff Were going to have a f a c i l i t a t e d

11 meeting As I said your comments w i l l be documented

12 The presenters for t h i s evening w i l l be

13 David Hoefer who i s our Regional Counsel at EPA He

14 w i l l be t a l k i n g about the le g a l agreement Then well

15 have Dan Gravatt H e l l give us a status update for the

16 s i t e and the next steps

17 We ask that you hold your comments and

18 questions u n t i l the presentations are ended I f youve

19 got some papers you can take notes as you move through

20 the presentations I f you need paper we have paper out

21 at the table

22 I f you didnt get a chance to sign i n on

23 those blue cards we dont want to overlook anybody We

24 want to make sure that we have everybody on our mailing

25 l i s t We want to include everybody

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1 The meeting t h i s evening i s part of our

2 community involvement process We want you to know the

3 EPA cares The EPA i s here to keep you well-informed

4 We encourage and enable the community to get involved

5 We l i s t e n to your comments

6 Other communities i n Region 7 have gotten

7 involved and sometimes the community decides to form a

8 community advisory group That group serves as a

9 l i a i s o n for comments and concerns that the community has

10 with EPA We want to make sure there are additional

11 processes that can help you to get involved

12 At t h i s point I l l turn the mic over to

13 Shawn Grindstaff our f a c i l i t a t o r for t h i s evening

14 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you very much Good

15 evening

16 I wanted to t e l l you a l i t t l e b i t about

17 myself f i r s t so that I can explain the role that I have

18 i n the meeting tonight

19 F a c i l i t a t o r what i t r e a l l y means tonight

20 i s that we want to be able to get through the meeting

21 and accomplish several d i f f e r e n t things Were kind of

22 r o l l i n g several things into one tonight So time i t

23 t i c k s away very fast for a l l of us so I want to make

24 sure we move from one thing to the other

25 Now the things that were going to do

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1 tonight the f i r s t part i s the presentations that you

2 w i l l hear The reason i s under federal law at t h i s

3 point under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act

4 which people c a l l e d RCRA there i s a piece of that law

5 that says at t h i s moment of the proposed settlement of

6 t h i s order that we speak to the public about t h i s and

7 that you have t h i s time period to comment

8 Thats a very formal process Thats why

9 we have the court reporter here And she w i l l be taking

10 down every word We need to get through that Thats

11 why I ask again l i k e Belinda said you can hold a l l

12 your questions and comments u n t i l the presentations are

13 over

14 Then Belinda and I w i l l have two mics I

15 know there are several people Espec i a l l y i n t h i s

16 church you might not be able to move about We w i l l

17 bring the mic to you At that point we w i l l go to

18 questions and comments

19 Then af t e r that because theres another

20 portion of the community that wants to speak p r i v a t e l y

21 and c o n f i d e n t i a l l y we have at the end of the meeting a

22 public a v a i l a b i l i t y session Well have broken-up areas

23 with d i f f e r e n t people i n d i f f e r e n t places So time w i l l

24 go by quickly

25 So that w i l l be my role i s to keep things

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1 moving quickly David and Dan are going to go ahead and

2 make the presentations Again i f you bear with me with

3 our d i f f e r e n t pieces of t h i s i t w i l l help

4 Ive been doing meetings l i k e t h i s l o t s of

5 d i f f e r e n t meetings for about 20 years Ive learned a

6 l o t of hard lessons

7 The thing Ive learned the most i s that

8 i t s important that everybody i n the community

9 everybody has a chance to t a l k i n t h e i r own way Some

10 want to t a l k p r i v a t e l y Some want to t a l k i n front of

11 others Were going to t r y to meet everybodys needs

12 tonight

13 Well go ahead and hand i t over to David

14 Thank you

15 MR HOEFER Good evening My name i s

16 David Hoefer Im an attorney with the Environmental

17 Protection Agency Ive worked with the company known

18 as PerkinElmer to come up with a settlement agreement

19 That i s what Im going to t a l k about

20 My presentation i s very b r i e f We have

21 th i s shy - i t s c a l l e d an Administrative Settlement

22 Agreement and Order on Consent I t s on our website

23 It s p u b l i c l y available The primary purpose of the

24 meeting i t s e l f i s to discuss get comments on t h i s

25 order

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1 We have a le g a l obligation when we have an

2 imminent order of t h i s nature to put i t out for public

3 comment to get comments whether theres anything

4 inappropriate improper or inadequate Thats my role

5 tonight

6 I worked with PerkinElmer on t h i s This i s

7 a l e g a l agreement As Shawn referenced theres a

8 couple statutory auth o r i t i e s that we use One that you

9 may have heard of before that i s a f a i r l y common statute

10 known as a superfund and thats the Comprehensive

11 Environmental Response Compensation and L i a b i l i t y Act

12 The other one i s RCRA Resource Conservation and

13 Recovery Act

14 So theres l e g a l authorities that we use

15 when we negotiate t h i s order And those are author i t i e s

that Congress made to us for resolutions l i k e we have i n 16

t h i s community 17

18 We did t h i s i n very short order Dan I

19 think w i l l discuss how long the EPA has been involved

I t s not been very long 20

21 When we got involved I approached

22 PerkinElmer and we talked about We have a problem

23 here that needs to be addressed So i n very short

24 order we negotiated t h i s order I t was a very short

25 period of time In a very short period of time we

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1 negotiated t h i s order

2 I sent t h i s to PerkinElmer for negotiation

3 on September 14th We provided two weeks for

4 negotiations on t h i s I worked with t h e i r attorneys

I t was pretty intense during that two-week period to

6 come to t h i s agreement They signed i t on October 2nd

7 I t s not e f f e c t i v e u n t i l EPA signs i t EPA

8 w i l l not sign t h i s u n t i l i t s gone through public

9 comment The public comment period runs from l a s t week

I believe i t was October 18th through November 19th

11 So once we get through the public comment

12 period we w i l l evaluate the comments that we receive on

13 th i s to see i f t h i s i s s t i l l something that we want to

14 enter into with PerkinElmer or do we want to have i t

modified et cetera

16 That i s one of our purposes tonight i s to

17 fi n d out what the community thinks about t h i s agreement

18 This i s a f a i r l y technical document I t s

19 a very t y p i c a l document for these types of settlements

I t contains a l o t of b o i l e r p l a t e language i n here that

21 i s standard findings of fact I t gives the h i s t o r y of

22 the s i t e h i s t o r y of PerkinElmers involvement our

23 involvement et cetera

24 Probably the most-relevant portion of t h i s

for the community should be the Work section Theres

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1 a portion of t h i s that d e t a i l s what work PerkinElmer

2 w i l l be performing at t h i s s i t e

3 Just to be clear here t h i s i s a l e g a l

4 agreement legally-binding agreement And pursuant to

5 t h i s PerkinElmer i s agreeing to do cer t a i n a c t i v i t i e s

6 i n your community to ascertain the extent of the

7 contamination and to address the contamination So i t s

8 a very comprehensive agreement

9 Dan w i l l address the work requirements We

10 have phased work thats going to be performed under t h i s

11- order I t s quite a b i t of work I t s a very

12 comprehensive order very aggressive order

13 This becomes enforceable upon EPAs

14 signature Again we wont sign i t u n t i l the public

15 comment period i s over So i t w i l l be sometime around

16 Thanksgiving before we sign t h i s and i t a c t u a l l y becomes

17 operable

18 This i s again a legally-enforceable

19 agreement We have penalties that PerkinElmer has

20 agreed to There are also statutory penalties I f we

21 need to we can enforce t h i s i n federal court That i s

22 both with regard to penalties and with r e l i e f to make

23 sure the work i s performed

24 Let me say PerkinElmer -- I dont know i f

25 you know much about PerkinElmer We engaged them early

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

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10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

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16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

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chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

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c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

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committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

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c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

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2824

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1 MS YOUNG Good evening My name i s

2 Belinda Young Im with the Environmental Protection

3 Agency i n now Lenexa Kansas Im a Community

4 Involvement Coordinator i n the Office of Public A f f a i r s

5 So Im working with the public on t h i s project

6 If you received a f l y e r announcing t h i s

7 meeting my name i s l i s t e d on the contact portion on the

8 end I t s l i s t e d for general i n f o m a t i o n i f you want to

9 ask questions

10 To move quickly through t h i s portion I

11 would l i k e to recognize any elected o f f i c i a l s or t h e i r

12 representatives that may be i n the audience t h i s

13 evening I f not well move on

14 We can recognize that Dr P r u i t t i s here

15 with the NAACP so hes been getting information We

16 have representatives here from EPA as I said

17 We also have representatives from the

18 Missouri Department of Natural Resources the Missouri

19 Department of Health and Senior Services and the Agency

20 For Toxic Substances and Disease Registry They have

21 infom a t i o n that w i l l be available through our public

22 meeting t h i s evening

23 Comments provided at t h i s evenings meeting

24 w i l l be documented We have a court reporter EPA

25 began a 3 0-day public comment period that runs from

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1 October 18th through November 19th The comment period

2 i s related to an agreement between EPA and PerkinElmer

3 Incorporated to address contamination i n t h i s area

4 Information on that agreement can be found

5 i n several repositories i n the area The St Louis

6 County Library the Mid-County Library Indian T r a i l s

7 Library and at the EPA Region 7 website And we have

8 information i n our records center

9 The f a c i l i t a t o r for t h i s evening w i l l be

10 Shawn Grindstaff Were going to have a f a c i l i t a t e d

11 meeting As I said your comments w i l l be documented

12 The presenters for t h i s evening w i l l be

13 David Hoefer who i s our Regional Counsel at EPA He

14 w i l l be t a l k i n g about the le g a l agreement Then well

15 have Dan Gravatt H e l l give us a status update for the

16 s i t e and the next steps

17 We ask that you hold your comments and

18 questions u n t i l the presentations are ended I f youve

19 got some papers you can take notes as you move through

20 the presentations I f you need paper we have paper out

21 at the table

22 I f you didnt get a chance to sign i n on

23 those blue cards we dont want to overlook anybody We

24 want to make sure that we have everybody on our mailing

25 l i s t We want to include everybody

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1 The meeting t h i s evening i s part of our

2 community involvement process We want you to know the

3 EPA cares The EPA i s here to keep you well-informed

4 We encourage and enable the community to get involved

5 We l i s t e n to your comments

6 Other communities i n Region 7 have gotten

7 involved and sometimes the community decides to form a

8 community advisory group That group serves as a

9 l i a i s o n for comments and concerns that the community has

10 with EPA We want to make sure there are additional

11 processes that can help you to get involved

12 At t h i s point I l l turn the mic over to

13 Shawn Grindstaff our f a c i l i t a t o r for t h i s evening

14 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you very much Good

15 evening

16 I wanted to t e l l you a l i t t l e b i t about

17 myself f i r s t so that I can explain the role that I have

18 i n the meeting tonight

19 F a c i l i t a t o r what i t r e a l l y means tonight

20 i s that we want to be able to get through the meeting

21 and accomplish several d i f f e r e n t things Were kind of

22 r o l l i n g several things into one tonight So time i t

23 t i c k s away very fast for a l l of us so I want to make

24 sure we move from one thing to the other

25 Now the things that were going to do

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1 tonight the f i r s t part i s the presentations that you

2 w i l l hear The reason i s under federal law at t h i s

3 point under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act

4 which people c a l l e d RCRA there i s a piece of that law

5 that says at t h i s moment of the proposed settlement of

6 t h i s order that we speak to the public about t h i s and

7 that you have t h i s time period to comment

8 Thats a very formal process Thats why

9 we have the court reporter here And she w i l l be taking

10 down every word We need to get through that Thats

11 why I ask again l i k e Belinda said you can hold a l l

12 your questions and comments u n t i l the presentations are

13 over

14 Then Belinda and I w i l l have two mics I

15 know there are several people Espec i a l l y i n t h i s

16 church you might not be able to move about We w i l l

17 bring the mic to you At that point we w i l l go to

18 questions and comments

19 Then af t e r that because theres another

20 portion of the community that wants to speak p r i v a t e l y

21 and c o n f i d e n t i a l l y we have at the end of the meeting a

22 public a v a i l a b i l i t y session Well have broken-up areas

23 with d i f f e r e n t people i n d i f f e r e n t places So time w i l l

24 go by quickly

25 So that w i l l be my role i s to keep things

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1 moving quickly David and Dan are going to go ahead and

2 make the presentations Again i f you bear with me with

3 our d i f f e r e n t pieces of t h i s i t w i l l help

4 Ive been doing meetings l i k e t h i s l o t s of

5 d i f f e r e n t meetings for about 20 years Ive learned a

6 l o t of hard lessons

7 The thing Ive learned the most i s that

8 i t s important that everybody i n the community

9 everybody has a chance to t a l k i n t h e i r own way Some

10 want to t a l k p r i v a t e l y Some want to t a l k i n front of

11 others Were going to t r y to meet everybodys needs

12 tonight

13 Well go ahead and hand i t over to David

14 Thank you

15 MR HOEFER Good evening My name i s

16 David Hoefer Im an attorney with the Environmental

17 Protection Agency Ive worked with the company known

18 as PerkinElmer to come up with a settlement agreement

19 That i s what Im going to t a l k about

20 My presentation i s very b r i e f We have

21 th i s shy - i t s c a l l e d an Administrative Settlement

22 Agreement and Order on Consent I t s on our website

23 It s p u b l i c l y available The primary purpose of the

24 meeting i t s e l f i s to discuss get comments on t h i s

25 order

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1 We have a le g a l obligation when we have an

2 imminent order of t h i s nature to put i t out for public

3 comment to get comments whether theres anything

4 inappropriate improper or inadequate Thats my role

5 tonight

6 I worked with PerkinElmer on t h i s This i s

7 a l e g a l agreement As Shawn referenced theres a

8 couple statutory auth o r i t i e s that we use One that you

9 may have heard of before that i s a f a i r l y common statute

10 known as a superfund and thats the Comprehensive

11 Environmental Response Compensation and L i a b i l i t y Act

12 The other one i s RCRA Resource Conservation and

13 Recovery Act

14 So theres l e g a l authorities that we use

15 when we negotiate t h i s order And those are author i t i e s

that Congress made to us for resolutions l i k e we have i n 16

t h i s community 17

18 We did t h i s i n very short order Dan I

19 think w i l l discuss how long the EPA has been involved

I t s not been very long 20

21 When we got involved I approached

22 PerkinElmer and we talked about We have a problem

23 here that needs to be addressed So i n very short

24 order we negotiated t h i s order I t was a very short

25 period of time In a very short period of time we

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1 negotiated t h i s order

2 I sent t h i s to PerkinElmer for negotiation

3 on September 14th We provided two weeks for

4 negotiations on t h i s I worked with t h e i r attorneys

I t was pretty intense during that two-week period to

6 come to t h i s agreement They signed i t on October 2nd

7 I t s not e f f e c t i v e u n t i l EPA signs i t EPA

8 w i l l not sign t h i s u n t i l i t s gone through public

9 comment The public comment period runs from l a s t week

I believe i t was October 18th through November 19th

11 So once we get through the public comment

12 period we w i l l evaluate the comments that we receive on

13 th i s to see i f t h i s i s s t i l l something that we want to

14 enter into with PerkinElmer or do we want to have i t

modified et cetera

16 That i s one of our purposes tonight i s to

17 fi n d out what the community thinks about t h i s agreement

18 This i s a f a i r l y technical document I t s

19 a very t y p i c a l document for these types of settlements

I t contains a l o t of b o i l e r p l a t e language i n here that

21 i s standard findings of fact I t gives the h i s t o r y of

22 the s i t e h i s t o r y of PerkinElmers involvement our

23 involvement et cetera

24 Probably the most-relevant portion of t h i s

for the community should be the Work section Theres

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1 a portion of t h i s that d e t a i l s what work PerkinElmer

2 w i l l be performing at t h i s s i t e

3 Just to be clear here t h i s i s a l e g a l

4 agreement legally-binding agreement And pursuant to

5 t h i s PerkinElmer i s agreeing to do cer t a i n a c t i v i t i e s

6 i n your community to ascertain the extent of the

7 contamination and to address the contamination So i t s

8 a very comprehensive agreement

9 Dan w i l l address the work requirements We

10 have phased work thats going to be performed under t h i s

11- order I t s quite a b i t of work I t s a very

12 comprehensive order very aggressive order

13 This becomes enforceable upon EPAs

14 signature Again we wont sign i t u n t i l the public

15 comment period i s over So i t w i l l be sometime around

16 Thanksgiving before we sign t h i s and i t a c t u a l l y becomes

17 operable

18 This i s again a legally-enforceable

19 agreement We have penalties that PerkinElmer has

20 agreed to There are also statutory penalties I f we

21 need to we can enforce t h i s i n federal court That i s

22 both with regard to penalties and with r e l i e f to make

23 sure the work i s performed

24 Let me say PerkinElmer -- I dont know i f

25 you know much about PerkinElmer We engaged them early

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

25 mic to each person

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

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20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

want to make sure we covered that 25

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

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16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

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community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

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10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

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back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

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153 346b r i n g 421519

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385 2010

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chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

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c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

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t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 October 18th through November 19th The comment period

2 i s related to an agreement between EPA and PerkinElmer

3 Incorporated to address contamination i n t h i s area

4 Information on that agreement can be found

5 i n several repositories i n the area The St Louis

6 County Library the Mid-County Library Indian T r a i l s

7 Library and at the EPA Region 7 website And we have

8 information i n our records center

9 The f a c i l i t a t o r for t h i s evening w i l l be

10 Shawn Grindstaff Were going to have a f a c i l i t a t e d

11 meeting As I said your comments w i l l be documented

12 The presenters for t h i s evening w i l l be

13 David Hoefer who i s our Regional Counsel at EPA He

14 w i l l be t a l k i n g about the le g a l agreement Then well

15 have Dan Gravatt H e l l give us a status update for the

16 s i t e and the next steps

17 We ask that you hold your comments and

18 questions u n t i l the presentations are ended I f youve

19 got some papers you can take notes as you move through

20 the presentations I f you need paper we have paper out

21 at the table

22 I f you didnt get a chance to sign i n on

23 those blue cards we dont want to overlook anybody We

24 want to make sure that we have everybody on our mailing

25 l i s t We want to include everybody

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1 The meeting t h i s evening i s part of our

2 community involvement process We want you to know the

3 EPA cares The EPA i s here to keep you well-informed

4 We encourage and enable the community to get involved

5 We l i s t e n to your comments

6 Other communities i n Region 7 have gotten

7 involved and sometimes the community decides to form a

8 community advisory group That group serves as a

9 l i a i s o n for comments and concerns that the community has

10 with EPA We want to make sure there are additional

11 processes that can help you to get involved

12 At t h i s point I l l turn the mic over to

13 Shawn Grindstaff our f a c i l i t a t o r for t h i s evening

14 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you very much Good

15 evening

16 I wanted to t e l l you a l i t t l e b i t about

17 myself f i r s t so that I can explain the role that I have

18 i n the meeting tonight

19 F a c i l i t a t o r what i t r e a l l y means tonight

20 i s that we want to be able to get through the meeting

21 and accomplish several d i f f e r e n t things Were kind of

22 r o l l i n g several things into one tonight So time i t

23 t i c k s away very fast for a l l of us so I want to make

24 sure we move from one thing to the other

25 Now the things that were going to do

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1 tonight the f i r s t part i s the presentations that you

2 w i l l hear The reason i s under federal law at t h i s

3 point under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act

4 which people c a l l e d RCRA there i s a piece of that law

5 that says at t h i s moment of the proposed settlement of

6 t h i s order that we speak to the public about t h i s and

7 that you have t h i s time period to comment

8 Thats a very formal process Thats why

9 we have the court reporter here And she w i l l be taking

10 down every word We need to get through that Thats

11 why I ask again l i k e Belinda said you can hold a l l

12 your questions and comments u n t i l the presentations are

13 over

14 Then Belinda and I w i l l have two mics I

15 know there are several people Espec i a l l y i n t h i s

16 church you might not be able to move about We w i l l

17 bring the mic to you At that point we w i l l go to

18 questions and comments

19 Then af t e r that because theres another

20 portion of the community that wants to speak p r i v a t e l y

21 and c o n f i d e n t i a l l y we have at the end of the meeting a

22 public a v a i l a b i l i t y session Well have broken-up areas

23 with d i f f e r e n t people i n d i f f e r e n t places So time w i l l

24 go by quickly

25 So that w i l l be my role i s to keep things

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1 moving quickly David and Dan are going to go ahead and

2 make the presentations Again i f you bear with me with

3 our d i f f e r e n t pieces of t h i s i t w i l l help

4 Ive been doing meetings l i k e t h i s l o t s of

5 d i f f e r e n t meetings for about 20 years Ive learned a

6 l o t of hard lessons

7 The thing Ive learned the most i s that

8 i t s important that everybody i n the community

9 everybody has a chance to t a l k i n t h e i r own way Some

10 want to t a l k p r i v a t e l y Some want to t a l k i n front of

11 others Were going to t r y to meet everybodys needs

12 tonight

13 Well go ahead and hand i t over to David

14 Thank you

15 MR HOEFER Good evening My name i s

16 David Hoefer Im an attorney with the Environmental

17 Protection Agency Ive worked with the company known

18 as PerkinElmer to come up with a settlement agreement

19 That i s what Im going to t a l k about

20 My presentation i s very b r i e f We have

21 th i s shy - i t s c a l l e d an Administrative Settlement

22 Agreement and Order on Consent I t s on our website

23 It s p u b l i c l y available The primary purpose of the

24 meeting i t s e l f i s to discuss get comments on t h i s

25 order

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1 We have a le g a l obligation when we have an

2 imminent order of t h i s nature to put i t out for public

3 comment to get comments whether theres anything

4 inappropriate improper or inadequate Thats my role

5 tonight

6 I worked with PerkinElmer on t h i s This i s

7 a l e g a l agreement As Shawn referenced theres a

8 couple statutory auth o r i t i e s that we use One that you

9 may have heard of before that i s a f a i r l y common statute

10 known as a superfund and thats the Comprehensive

11 Environmental Response Compensation and L i a b i l i t y Act

12 The other one i s RCRA Resource Conservation and

13 Recovery Act

14 So theres l e g a l authorities that we use

15 when we negotiate t h i s order And those are author i t i e s

that Congress made to us for resolutions l i k e we have i n 16

t h i s community 17

18 We did t h i s i n very short order Dan I

19 think w i l l discuss how long the EPA has been involved

I t s not been very long 20

21 When we got involved I approached

22 PerkinElmer and we talked about We have a problem

23 here that needs to be addressed So i n very short

24 order we negotiated t h i s order I t was a very short

25 period of time In a very short period of time we

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1 negotiated t h i s order

2 I sent t h i s to PerkinElmer for negotiation

3 on September 14th We provided two weeks for

4 negotiations on t h i s I worked with t h e i r attorneys

I t was pretty intense during that two-week period to

6 come to t h i s agreement They signed i t on October 2nd

7 I t s not e f f e c t i v e u n t i l EPA signs i t EPA

8 w i l l not sign t h i s u n t i l i t s gone through public

9 comment The public comment period runs from l a s t week

I believe i t was October 18th through November 19th

11 So once we get through the public comment

12 period we w i l l evaluate the comments that we receive on

13 th i s to see i f t h i s i s s t i l l something that we want to

14 enter into with PerkinElmer or do we want to have i t

modified et cetera

16 That i s one of our purposes tonight i s to

17 fi n d out what the community thinks about t h i s agreement

18 This i s a f a i r l y technical document I t s

19 a very t y p i c a l document for these types of settlements

I t contains a l o t of b o i l e r p l a t e language i n here that

21 i s standard findings of fact I t gives the h i s t o r y of

22 the s i t e h i s t o r y of PerkinElmers involvement our

23 involvement et cetera

24 Probably the most-relevant portion of t h i s

for the community should be the Work section Theres

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1 a portion of t h i s that d e t a i l s what work PerkinElmer

2 w i l l be performing at t h i s s i t e

3 Just to be clear here t h i s i s a l e g a l

4 agreement legally-binding agreement And pursuant to

5 t h i s PerkinElmer i s agreeing to do cer t a i n a c t i v i t i e s

6 i n your community to ascertain the extent of the

7 contamination and to address the contamination So i t s

8 a very comprehensive agreement

9 Dan w i l l address the work requirements We

10 have phased work thats going to be performed under t h i s

11- order I t s quite a b i t of work I t s a very

12 comprehensive order very aggressive order

13 This becomes enforceable upon EPAs

14 signature Again we wont sign i t u n t i l the public

15 comment period i s over So i t w i l l be sometime around

16 Thanksgiving before we sign t h i s and i t a c t u a l l y becomes

17 operable

18 This i s again a legally-enforceable

19 agreement We have penalties that PerkinElmer has

20 agreed to There are also statutory penalties I f we

21 need to we can enforce t h i s i n federal court That i s

22 both with regard to penalties and with r e l i e f to make

23 sure the work i s performed

24 Let me say PerkinElmer -- I dont know i f

25 you know much about PerkinElmer We engaged them early

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

25 mic to each person

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

want to make sure we covered that 25

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

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16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

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community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

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6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

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10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

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12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

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back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

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153 346b r i n g 421519

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385 2010

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chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

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2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

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c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 The meeting t h i s evening i s part of our

2 community involvement process We want you to know the

3 EPA cares The EPA i s here to keep you well-informed

4 We encourage and enable the community to get involved

5 We l i s t e n to your comments

6 Other communities i n Region 7 have gotten

7 involved and sometimes the community decides to form a

8 community advisory group That group serves as a

9 l i a i s o n for comments and concerns that the community has

10 with EPA We want to make sure there are additional

11 processes that can help you to get involved

12 At t h i s point I l l turn the mic over to

13 Shawn Grindstaff our f a c i l i t a t o r for t h i s evening

14 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you very much Good

15 evening

16 I wanted to t e l l you a l i t t l e b i t about

17 myself f i r s t so that I can explain the role that I have

18 i n the meeting tonight

19 F a c i l i t a t o r what i t r e a l l y means tonight

20 i s that we want to be able to get through the meeting

21 and accomplish several d i f f e r e n t things Were kind of

22 r o l l i n g several things into one tonight So time i t

23 t i c k s away very fast for a l l of us so I want to make

24 sure we move from one thing to the other

25 Now the things that were going to do

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1 tonight the f i r s t part i s the presentations that you

2 w i l l hear The reason i s under federal law at t h i s

3 point under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act

4 which people c a l l e d RCRA there i s a piece of that law

5 that says at t h i s moment of the proposed settlement of

6 t h i s order that we speak to the public about t h i s and

7 that you have t h i s time period to comment

8 Thats a very formal process Thats why

9 we have the court reporter here And she w i l l be taking

10 down every word We need to get through that Thats

11 why I ask again l i k e Belinda said you can hold a l l

12 your questions and comments u n t i l the presentations are

13 over

14 Then Belinda and I w i l l have two mics I

15 know there are several people Espec i a l l y i n t h i s

16 church you might not be able to move about We w i l l

17 bring the mic to you At that point we w i l l go to

18 questions and comments

19 Then af t e r that because theres another

20 portion of the community that wants to speak p r i v a t e l y

21 and c o n f i d e n t i a l l y we have at the end of the meeting a

22 public a v a i l a b i l i t y session Well have broken-up areas

23 with d i f f e r e n t people i n d i f f e r e n t places So time w i l l

24 go by quickly

25 So that w i l l be my role i s to keep things

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1 moving quickly David and Dan are going to go ahead and

2 make the presentations Again i f you bear with me with

3 our d i f f e r e n t pieces of t h i s i t w i l l help

4 Ive been doing meetings l i k e t h i s l o t s of

5 d i f f e r e n t meetings for about 20 years Ive learned a

6 l o t of hard lessons

7 The thing Ive learned the most i s that

8 i t s important that everybody i n the community

9 everybody has a chance to t a l k i n t h e i r own way Some

10 want to t a l k p r i v a t e l y Some want to t a l k i n front of

11 others Were going to t r y to meet everybodys needs

12 tonight

13 Well go ahead and hand i t over to David

14 Thank you

15 MR HOEFER Good evening My name i s

16 David Hoefer Im an attorney with the Environmental

17 Protection Agency Ive worked with the company known

18 as PerkinElmer to come up with a settlement agreement

19 That i s what Im going to t a l k about

20 My presentation i s very b r i e f We have

21 th i s shy - i t s c a l l e d an Administrative Settlement

22 Agreement and Order on Consent I t s on our website

23 It s p u b l i c l y available The primary purpose of the

24 meeting i t s e l f i s to discuss get comments on t h i s

25 order

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1 We have a le g a l obligation when we have an

2 imminent order of t h i s nature to put i t out for public

3 comment to get comments whether theres anything

4 inappropriate improper or inadequate Thats my role

5 tonight

6 I worked with PerkinElmer on t h i s This i s

7 a l e g a l agreement As Shawn referenced theres a

8 couple statutory auth o r i t i e s that we use One that you

9 may have heard of before that i s a f a i r l y common statute

10 known as a superfund and thats the Comprehensive

11 Environmental Response Compensation and L i a b i l i t y Act

12 The other one i s RCRA Resource Conservation and

13 Recovery Act

14 So theres l e g a l authorities that we use

15 when we negotiate t h i s order And those are author i t i e s

that Congress made to us for resolutions l i k e we have i n 16

t h i s community 17

18 We did t h i s i n very short order Dan I

19 think w i l l discuss how long the EPA has been involved

I t s not been very long 20

21 When we got involved I approached

22 PerkinElmer and we talked about We have a problem

23 here that needs to be addressed So i n very short

24 order we negotiated t h i s order I t was a very short

25 period of time In a very short period of time we

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1 negotiated t h i s order

2 I sent t h i s to PerkinElmer for negotiation

3 on September 14th We provided two weeks for

4 negotiations on t h i s I worked with t h e i r attorneys

I t was pretty intense during that two-week period to

6 come to t h i s agreement They signed i t on October 2nd

7 I t s not e f f e c t i v e u n t i l EPA signs i t EPA

8 w i l l not sign t h i s u n t i l i t s gone through public

9 comment The public comment period runs from l a s t week

I believe i t was October 18th through November 19th

11 So once we get through the public comment

12 period we w i l l evaluate the comments that we receive on

13 th i s to see i f t h i s i s s t i l l something that we want to

14 enter into with PerkinElmer or do we want to have i t

modified et cetera

16 That i s one of our purposes tonight i s to

17 fi n d out what the community thinks about t h i s agreement

18 This i s a f a i r l y technical document I t s

19 a very t y p i c a l document for these types of settlements

I t contains a l o t of b o i l e r p l a t e language i n here that

21 i s standard findings of fact I t gives the h i s t o r y of

22 the s i t e h i s t o r y of PerkinElmers involvement our

23 involvement et cetera

24 Probably the most-relevant portion of t h i s

for the community should be the Work section Theres

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1 a portion of t h i s that d e t a i l s what work PerkinElmer

2 w i l l be performing at t h i s s i t e

3 Just to be clear here t h i s i s a l e g a l

4 agreement legally-binding agreement And pursuant to

5 t h i s PerkinElmer i s agreeing to do cer t a i n a c t i v i t i e s

6 i n your community to ascertain the extent of the

7 contamination and to address the contamination So i t s

8 a very comprehensive agreement

9 Dan w i l l address the work requirements We

10 have phased work thats going to be performed under t h i s

11- order I t s quite a b i t of work I t s a very

12 comprehensive order very aggressive order

13 This becomes enforceable upon EPAs

14 signature Again we wont sign i t u n t i l the public

15 comment period i s over So i t w i l l be sometime around

16 Thanksgiving before we sign t h i s and i t a c t u a l l y becomes

17 operable

18 This i s again a legally-enforceable

19 agreement We have penalties that PerkinElmer has

20 agreed to There are also statutory penalties I f we

21 need to we can enforce t h i s i n federal court That i s

22 both with regard to penalties and with r e l i e f to make

23 sure the work i s performed

24 Let me say PerkinElmer -- I dont know i f

25 you know much about PerkinElmer We engaged them early

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

25 mic to each person

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

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10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

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chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

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c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

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common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

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c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

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1 tonight the f i r s t part i s the presentations that you

2 w i l l hear The reason i s under federal law at t h i s

3 point under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act

4 which people c a l l e d RCRA there i s a piece of that law

5 that says at t h i s moment of the proposed settlement of

6 t h i s order that we speak to the public about t h i s and

7 that you have t h i s time period to comment

8 Thats a very formal process Thats why

9 we have the court reporter here And she w i l l be taking

10 down every word We need to get through that Thats

11 why I ask again l i k e Belinda said you can hold a l l

12 your questions and comments u n t i l the presentations are

13 over

14 Then Belinda and I w i l l have two mics I

15 know there are several people Espec i a l l y i n t h i s

16 church you might not be able to move about We w i l l

17 bring the mic to you At that point we w i l l go to

18 questions and comments

19 Then af t e r that because theres another

20 portion of the community that wants to speak p r i v a t e l y

21 and c o n f i d e n t i a l l y we have at the end of the meeting a

22 public a v a i l a b i l i t y session Well have broken-up areas

23 with d i f f e r e n t people i n d i f f e r e n t places So time w i l l

24 go by quickly

25 So that w i l l be my role i s to keep things

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1 moving quickly David and Dan are going to go ahead and

2 make the presentations Again i f you bear with me with

3 our d i f f e r e n t pieces of t h i s i t w i l l help

4 Ive been doing meetings l i k e t h i s l o t s of

5 d i f f e r e n t meetings for about 20 years Ive learned a

6 l o t of hard lessons

7 The thing Ive learned the most i s that

8 i t s important that everybody i n the community

9 everybody has a chance to t a l k i n t h e i r own way Some

10 want to t a l k p r i v a t e l y Some want to t a l k i n front of

11 others Were going to t r y to meet everybodys needs

12 tonight

13 Well go ahead and hand i t over to David

14 Thank you

15 MR HOEFER Good evening My name i s

16 David Hoefer Im an attorney with the Environmental

17 Protection Agency Ive worked with the company known

18 as PerkinElmer to come up with a settlement agreement

19 That i s what Im going to t a l k about

20 My presentation i s very b r i e f We have

21 th i s shy - i t s c a l l e d an Administrative Settlement

22 Agreement and Order on Consent I t s on our website

23 It s p u b l i c l y available The primary purpose of the

24 meeting i t s e l f i s to discuss get comments on t h i s

25 order

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1 We have a le g a l obligation when we have an

2 imminent order of t h i s nature to put i t out for public

3 comment to get comments whether theres anything

4 inappropriate improper or inadequate Thats my role

5 tonight

6 I worked with PerkinElmer on t h i s This i s

7 a l e g a l agreement As Shawn referenced theres a

8 couple statutory auth o r i t i e s that we use One that you

9 may have heard of before that i s a f a i r l y common statute

10 known as a superfund and thats the Comprehensive

11 Environmental Response Compensation and L i a b i l i t y Act

12 The other one i s RCRA Resource Conservation and

13 Recovery Act

14 So theres l e g a l authorities that we use

15 when we negotiate t h i s order And those are author i t i e s

that Congress made to us for resolutions l i k e we have i n 16

t h i s community 17

18 We did t h i s i n very short order Dan I

19 think w i l l discuss how long the EPA has been involved

I t s not been very long 20

21 When we got involved I approached

22 PerkinElmer and we talked about We have a problem

23 here that needs to be addressed So i n very short

24 order we negotiated t h i s order I t was a very short

25 period of time In a very short period of time we

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1 negotiated t h i s order

2 I sent t h i s to PerkinElmer for negotiation

3 on September 14th We provided two weeks for

4 negotiations on t h i s I worked with t h e i r attorneys

I t was pretty intense during that two-week period to

6 come to t h i s agreement They signed i t on October 2nd

7 I t s not e f f e c t i v e u n t i l EPA signs i t EPA

8 w i l l not sign t h i s u n t i l i t s gone through public

9 comment The public comment period runs from l a s t week

I believe i t was October 18th through November 19th

11 So once we get through the public comment

12 period we w i l l evaluate the comments that we receive on

13 th i s to see i f t h i s i s s t i l l something that we want to

14 enter into with PerkinElmer or do we want to have i t

modified et cetera

16 That i s one of our purposes tonight i s to

17 fi n d out what the community thinks about t h i s agreement

18 This i s a f a i r l y technical document I t s

19 a very t y p i c a l document for these types of settlements

I t contains a l o t of b o i l e r p l a t e language i n here that

21 i s standard findings of fact I t gives the h i s t o r y of

22 the s i t e h i s t o r y of PerkinElmers involvement our

23 involvement et cetera

24 Probably the most-relevant portion of t h i s

for the community should be the Work section Theres

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1 a portion of t h i s that d e t a i l s what work PerkinElmer

2 w i l l be performing at t h i s s i t e

3 Just to be clear here t h i s i s a l e g a l

4 agreement legally-binding agreement And pursuant to

5 t h i s PerkinElmer i s agreeing to do cer t a i n a c t i v i t i e s

6 i n your community to ascertain the extent of the

7 contamination and to address the contamination So i t s

8 a very comprehensive agreement

9 Dan w i l l address the work requirements We

10 have phased work thats going to be performed under t h i s

11- order I t s quite a b i t of work I t s a very

12 comprehensive order very aggressive order

13 This becomes enforceable upon EPAs

14 signature Again we wont sign i t u n t i l the public

15 comment period i s over So i t w i l l be sometime around

16 Thanksgiving before we sign t h i s and i t a c t u a l l y becomes

17 operable

18 This i s again a legally-enforceable

19 agreement We have penalties that PerkinElmer has

20 agreed to There are also statutory penalties I f we

21 need to we can enforce t h i s i n federal court That i s

22 both with regard to penalties and with r e l i e f to make

23 sure the work i s performed

24 Let me say PerkinElmer -- I dont know i f

25 you know much about PerkinElmer We engaged them early

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

25 mic to each person

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

want to make sure we covered that 25

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

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c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

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4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

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copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

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d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

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e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

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1 moving quickly David and Dan are going to go ahead and

2 make the presentations Again i f you bear with me with

3 our d i f f e r e n t pieces of t h i s i t w i l l help

4 Ive been doing meetings l i k e t h i s l o t s of

5 d i f f e r e n t meetings for about 20 years Ive learned a

6 l o t of hard lessons

7 The thing Ive learned the most i s that

8 i t s important that everybody i n the community

9 everybody has a chance to t a l k i n t h e i r own way Some

10 want to t a l k p r i v a t e l y Some want to t a l k i n front of

11 others Were going to t r y to meet everybodys needs

12 tonight

13 Well go ahead and hand i t over to David

14 Thank you

15 MR HOEFER Good evening My name i s

16 David Hoefer Im an attorney with the Environmental

17 Protection Agency Ive worked with the company known

18 as PerkinElmer to come up with a settlement agreement

19 That i s what Im going to t a l k about

20 My presentation i s very b r i e f We have

21 th i s shy - i t s c a l l e d an Administrative Settlement

22 Agreement and Order on Consent I t s on our website

23 It s p u b l i c l y available The primary purpose of the

24 meeting i t s e l f i s to discuss get comments on t h i s

25 order

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1 We have a le g a l obligation when we have an

2 imminent order of t h i s nature to put i t out for public

3 comment to get comments whether theres anything

4 inappropriate improper or inadequate Thats my role

5 tonight

6 I worked with PerkinElmer on t h i s This i s

7 a l e g a l agreement As Shawn referenced theres a

8 couple statutory auth o r i t i e s that we use One that you

9 may have heard of before that i s a f a i r l y common statute

10 known as a superfund and thats the Comprehensive

11 Environmental Response Compensation and L i a b i l i t y Act

12 The other one i s RCRA Resource Conservation and

13 Recovery Act

14 So theres l e g a l authorities that we use

15 when we negotiate t h i s order And those are author i t i e s

that Congress made to us for resolutions l i k e we have i n 16

t h i s community 17

18 We did t h i s i n very short order Dan I

19 think w i l l discuss how long the EPA has been involved

I t s not been very long 20

21 When we got involved I approached

22 PerkinElmer and we talked about We have a problem

23 here that needs to be addressed So i n very short

24 order we negotiated t h i s order I t was a very short

25 period of time In a very short period of time we

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1 negotiated t h i s order

2 I sent t h i s to PerkinElmer for negotiation

3 on September 14th We provided two weeks for

4 negotiations on t h i s I worked with t h e i r attorneys

I t was pretty intense during that two-week period to

6 come to t h i s agreement They signed i t on October 2nd

7 I t s not e f f e c t i v e u n t i l EPA signs i t EPA

8 w i l l not sign t h i s u n t i l i t s gone through public

9 comment The public comment period runs from l a s t week

I believe i t was October 18th through November 19th

11 So once we get through the public comment

12 period we w i l l evaluate the comments that we receive on

13 th i s to see i f t h i s i s s t i l l something that we want to

14 enter into with PerkinElmer or do we want to have i t

modified et cetera

16 That i s one of our purposes tonight i s to

17 fi n d out what the community thinks about t h i s agreement

18 This i s a f a i r l y technical document I t s

19 a very t y p i c a l document for these types of settlements

I t contains a l o t of b o i l e r p l a t e language i n here that

21 i s standard findings of fact I t gives the h i s t o r y of

22 the s i t e h i s t o r y of PerkinElmers involvement our

23 involvement et cetera

24 Probably the most-relevant portion of t h i s

for the community should be the Work section Theres

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1 a portion of t h i s that d e t a i l s what work PerkinElmer

2 w i l l be performing at t h i s s i t e

3 Just to be clear here t h i s i s a l e g a l

4 agreement legally-binding agreement And pursuant to

5 t h i s PerkinElmer i s agreeing to do cer t a i n a c t i v i t i e s

6 i n your community to ascertain the extent of the

7 contamination and to address the contamination So i t s

8 a very comprehensive agreement

9 Dan w i l l address the work requirements We

10 have phased work thats going to be performed under t h i s

11- order I t s quite a b i t of work I t s a very

12 comprehensive order very aggressive order

13 This becomes enforceable upon EPAs

14 signature Again we wont sign i t u n t i l the public

15 comment period i s over So i t w i l l be sometime around

16 Thanksgiving before we sign t h i s and i t a c t u a l l y becomes

17 operable

18 This i s again a legally-enforceable

19 agreement We have penalties that PerkinElmer has

20 agreed to There are also statutory penalties I f we

21 need to we can enforce t h i s i n federal court That i s

22 both with regard to penalties and with r e l i e f to make

23 sure the work i s performed

24 Let me say PerkinElmer -- I dont know i f

25 you know much about PerkinElmer We engaged them early

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

25 mic to each person

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

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f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 We have a le g a l obligation when we have an

2 imminent order of t h i s nature to put i t out for public

3 comment to get comments whether theres anything

4 inappropriate improper or inadequate Thats my role

5 tonight

6 I worked with PerkinElmer on t h i s This i s

7 a l e g a l agreement As Shawn referenced theres a

8 couple statutory auth o r i t i e s that we use One that you

9 may have heard of before that i s a f a i r l y common statute

10 known as a superfund and thats the Comprehensive

11 Environmental Response Compensation and L i a b i l i t y Act

12 The other one i s RCRA Resource Conservation and

13 Recovery Act

14 So theres l e g a l authorities that we use

15 when we negotiate t h i s order And those are author i t i e s

that Congress made to us for resolutions l i k e we have i n 16

t h i s community 17

18 We did t h i s i n very short order Dan I

19 think w i l l discuss how long the EPA has been involved

I t s not been very long 20

21 When we got involved I approached

22 PerkinElmer and we talked about We have a problem

23 here that needs to be addressed So i n very short

24 order we negotiated t h i s order I t was a very short

25 period of time In a very short period of time we

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1 negotiated t h i s order

2 I sent t h i s to PerkinElmer for negotiation

3 on September 14th We provided two weeks for

4 negotiations on t h i s I worked with t h e i r attorneys

I t was pretty intense during that two-week period to

6 come to t h i s agreement They signed i t on October 2nd

7 I t s not e f f e c t i v e u n t i l EPA signs i t EPA

8 w i l l not sign t h i s u n t i l i t s gone through public

9 comment The public comment period runs from l a s t week

I believe i t was October 18th through November 19th

11 So once we get through the public comment

12 period we w i l l evaluate the comments that we receive on

13 th i s to see i f t h i s i s s t i l l something that we want to

14 enter into with PerkinElmer or do we want to have i t

modified et cetera

16 That i s one of our purposes tonight i s to

17 fi n d out what the community thinks about t h i s agreement

18 This i s a f a i r l y technical document I t s

19 a very t y p i c a l document for these types of settlements

I t contains a l o t of b o i l e r p l a t e language i n here that

21 i s standard findings of fact I t gives the h i s t o r y of

22 the s i t e h i s t o r y of PerkinElmers involvement our

23 involvement et cetera

24 Probably the most-relevant portion of t h i s

for the community should be the Work section Theres

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1 a portion of t h i s that d e t a i l s what work PerkinElmer

2 w i l l be performing at t h i s s i t e

3 Just to be clear here t h i s i s a l e g a l

4 agreement legally-binding agreement And pursuant to

5 t h i s PerkinElmer i s agreeing to do cer t a i n a c t i v i t i e s

6 i n your community to ascertain the extent of the

7 contamination and to address the contamination So i t s

8 a very comprehensive agreement

9 Dan w i l l address the work requirements We

10 have phased work thats going to be performed under t h i s

11- order I t s quite a b i t of work I t s a very

12 comprehensive order very aggressive order

13 This becomes enforceable upon EPAs

14 signature Again we wont sign i t u n t i l the public

15 comment period i s over So i t w i l l be sometime around

16 Thanksgiving before we sign t h i s and i t a c t u a l l y becomes

17 operable

18 This i s again a legally-enforceable

19 agreement We have penalties that PerkinElmer has

20 agreed to There are also statutory penalties I f we

21 need to we can enforce t h i s i n federal court That i s

22 both with regard to penalties and with r e l i e f to make

23 sure the work i s performed

24 Let me say PerkinElmer -- I dont know i f

25 you know much about PerkinElmer We engaged them early

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

25 mic to each person

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

new to the process

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

want to make sure we covered that 25

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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State of Missouri St Louis City

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 negotiated t h i s order

2 I sent t h i s to PerkinElmer for negotiation

3 on September 14th We provided two weeks for

4 negotiations on t h i s I worked with t h e i r attorneys

I t was pretty intense during that two-week period to

6 come to t h i s agreement They signed i t on October 2nd

7 I t s not e f f e c t i v e u n t i l EPA signs i t EPA

8 w i l l not sign t h i s u n t i l i t s gone through public

9 comment The public comment period runs from l a s t week

I believe i t was October 18th through November 19th

11 So once we get through the public comment

12 period we w i l l evaluate the comments that we receive on

13 th i s to see i f t h i s i s s t i l l something that we want to

14 enter into with PerkinElmer or do we want to have i t

modified et cetera

16 That i s one of our purposes tonight i s to

17 fi n d out what the community thinks about t h i s agreement

18 This i s a f a i r l y technical document I t s

19 a very t y p i c a l document for these types of settlements

I t contains a l o t of b o i l e r p l a t e language i n here that

21 i s standard findings of fact I t gives the h i s t o r y of

22 the s i t e h i s t o r y of PerkinElmers involvement our

23 involvement et cetera

24 Probably the most-relevant portion of t h i s

for the community should be the Work section Theres

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1 a portion of t h i s that d e t a i l s what work PerkinElmer

2 w i l l be performing at t h i s s i t e

3 Just to be clear here t h i s i s a l e g a l

4 agreement legally-binding agreement And pursuant to

5 t h i s PerkinElmer i s agreeing to do cer t a i n a c t i v i t i e s

6 i n your community to ascertain the extent of the

7 contamination and to address the contamination So i t s

8 a very comprehensive agreement

9 Dan w i l l address the work requirements We

10 have phased work thats going to be performed under t h i s

11- order I t s quite a b i t of work I t s a very

12 comprehensive order very aggressive order

13 This becomes enforceable upon EPAs

14 signature Again we wont sign i t u n t i l the public

15 comment period i s over So i t w i l l be sometime around

16 Thanksgiving before we sign t h i s and i t a c t u a l l y becomes

17 operable

18 This i s again a legally-enforceable

19 agreement We have penalties that PerkinElmer has

20 agreed to There are also statutory penalties I f we

21 need to we can enforce t h i s i n federal court That i s

22 both with regard to penalties and with r e l i e f to make

23 sure the work i s performed

24 Let me say PerkinElmer -- I dont know i f

25 you know much about PerkinElmer We engaged them early

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

25 mic to each person

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

25 area

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

16 o t h e r w i s e i n t e r e s t e d i n the outcome o f the a c t i o n

17

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CELENA D MOULTON Notary Public Notary Seal

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

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p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 a portion of t h i s that d e t a i l s what work PerkinElmer

2 w i l l be performing at t h i s s i t e

3 Just to be clear here t h i s i s a l e g a l

4 agreement legally-binding agreement And pursuant to

5 t h i s PerkinElmer i s agreeing to do cer t a i n a c t i v i t i e s

6 i n your community to ascertain the extent of the

7 contamination and to address the contamination So i t s

8 a very comprehensive agreement

9 Dan w i l l address the work requirements We

10 have phased work thats going to be performed under t h i s

11- order I t s quite a b i t of work I t s a very

12 comprehensive order very aggressive order

13 This becomes enforceable upon EPAs

14 signature Again we wont sign i t u n t i l the public

15 comment period i s over So i t w i l l be sometime around

16 Thanksgiving before we sign t h i s and i t a c t u a l l y becomes

17 operable

18 This i s again a legally-enforceable

19 agreement We have penalties that PerkinElmer has

20 agreed to There are also statutory penalties I f we

21 need to we can enforce t h i s i n federal court That i s

22 both with regard to penalties and with r e l i e f to make

23 sure the work i s performed

24 Let me say PerkinElmer -- I dont know i f

25 you know much about PerkinElmer We engaged them early

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

25 mic to each person

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

new to the process

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

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20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

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actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

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address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

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adequate 172

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adjourned 50911

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Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

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aggressivel y 102

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ahead 61

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anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

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based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

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beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

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b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

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checking buyouts 3723

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c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

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Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

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company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

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comprehensi ve 710

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concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

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contaminant S 47 4

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contaminate d 152

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c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

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c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

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couple 78

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c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

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1 i n September on t h i s issue Weve worked very

2 aggressively with them had very productive

3 negotiations And we did t h i s i n two weeks which

4 frankly i s the speed of l i g h t from our perspective So

5 we had a very good experience negotiating t h i s

6 Probably the most relevant or most

7 int e r e s t i n g aspect of t h i s i s probably going to be the

8 work

9 We have Dan Gravatt and John Frey And Dan

10 i s going to explain i n some d e t a i l the work requirements

11 of t h i s order And at the conclusion of t h i s well be

12 available to take questions

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Dan i f I could interrupt

14 before we s t a r t there were a l o t of people who just

15 walked i n I wanted to re-explain the format tonight so

16 that we can get through the meeting and everybody can be

17 home at a reasonable hour

18 And that i s t h i s Under the law under

19 something we c a l l RCRA t h i s meeting tonight i s a l i t t l e

20 d i f f e r e n t because weve got d i f f e r e n t pieces So what

21 were doing right now i s hearing two presentations on

22 the order settlement part of i t

23 Then a f t e r thats over well have

24 questions and comments i n which two of us w i l l carry the

25 mic to each person

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

new to the process

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

source material that I was discussing a moment ago

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

want to make sure we covered that 25

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

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f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

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i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 Then a f t e r that we have another group i n

2 the community who wants to meet p r i v a t e l y and

3 c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y So what well do then i s break up into

4 groups

Im going to be the f a c i l i t a t o r to work

6 with you so we can get through each piece that we have

7 to do and that wed l i k e to do i n the community We

8 want everyone to have a chance to be able to speak to

9 someone

So i f everyone w i l l bear with me well

11 keep moving on So David just spoke And were going

12 to have Dan speak i n the second presentation

13 MS YOUNG There was one thing I didnt

14 say Number one can everybody on t h i s side of the room

see t h i s projected image Secondly does anyone i n the

16 room know of anyone i n t h i s room who i s hearing

17 impaired We do have a sign interpreter here and I

18 didnt say that Okay Thank you

19 MR GRAVATT Good evening My name i s Dan

Gravatt Im with the Superfund Program i n the EPAs

21 Office i n Region 7 i n what was Kansas C i t y and now i s

22 Lenexa Kansas

23 Im the remedial project manager for the

24 s i t e kind of co-leading with John Frey who i s here

also Hes an On-Scene Commander from EPA We are

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

want to make sure we covered that 25

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

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16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

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community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

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1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

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soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 s p l i t t i n g the duties because t h i s i s going to be a very

2 long-term project There are some things we are doing

3 ri g h t now to address immediate issues There are going

4 to be some very long-term things that I w i l l get into

5 here They are a l l covered under the order that Dave

6 has been t e l l i n g you about

7 How EPA got involved i n the s i t e MDNR had

8 been working on t h i s for a number of years but i n J u l y

9 and September of t h i s year i t decided to refer

10 management of the s i t e to us That was something that

11 we agreed on and agreed to do i t pr e t t y r a p i d l y So

12 were going to keep them involved i n the process But

13 the order that were signing i s between EPA and

14 PerkinElmer

15 Since that r e f e r r a l weve had f i v e vapor

16 i n t r u s i o n m i t i g a t i o n systems i n s t a l l e d out of the

17 neighborhoods where we found the trichloroethylene or

18 TCE vapors i n t h e i r homes above the health-based r i s k

19 l e v e l Thats already been done I t was done back i n

20 September

21 Also as has been referred to as David

22 said weve been through a very aggressive negotiation

23 schedule with PerkinElmer to get t h i s order i n front of

24 you folks for your public comments

25 The public comment period began a few days

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

new to the process

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

source material that I was discussing a moment ago

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

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f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

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47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 ago and goes on for 30 days What was the end date

2 The 19th

3 MS YOUNG November 19th

4 MR GRAVATT So theres s t i l l a couple of

weeks for you to read that and to comment I hope you

6 do that Theres a l o t of s t u f f thats technical l e g a l

7 language b o i l e r p l a t e

8 If you go to Work to Be Performed

9 theres a s p e c i f i c section that has that t i t l e Work to

Be Performed And i t has I believe seven tasks that I

11 w i l l go through very generically here for your benefit

12 So when you p u l l that document up and take a look at i t

13 you w i l l be better able to understand what i t i s that

14 PerkinElmer i s able to do at the s i t e

Before we go on I want you to know that

16 t h i s order covers as far as we know a l l the work that

17 i s going to be necessary to clean up the site I t does

18 not say how long that i s going to take but i t includes

19 a l l the steps that w i l l be required to f u l l y clean up

the s i t e

21 I know that some of you who were here on

22 our e a r l i e r meetings or met one-on-one with us with

23 John or I e a r l i e r w i l l know th i s part of the story I

24 want to give t h i s again because there are some who are

new to the process

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

want to make sure we covered that 25

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

25 area

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

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16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

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1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 The main issue i s the contaminant within

2 the groundwater underneath some of the homes and

3 underneath the Missouri Metals Sit e i s vapor i n t r u s i o n

4 The chemical that was s p i l l e d i s a solvent c a l l e d

5 trichloroethylene or TCE and a related solvent c a l l e d

6 tetrachloroethylene or P as i n Paul PCE

7 Those solvents were used at the Missouri

8 Metal s i t e to clean parts that they were manufacturing

9 Through a va r i e t y of reasons that were not quite sure

10 of these chemicals these solvents were released onto

11 the ground and migrated down into the shallow aquifer i n

12 the neighborhood of 20 30 40 feet i n the ground

13 Once th i s solvent mixes with the

14 groundwater i t s t a r t s to dissolve That dissolved

15 solvent i n the groundwater s t a r t s to move with the

16 natural groundwater underneath the ground As i t moves

17 i n t h i s case i t happens to move to the southeast under

18 part of the residences i n the area

19 Now the groundwater thats beneath these

20 homes i s not the water that youre drinking I know

21 thats been a concern i n the past Weve had fact

22 sheets to t r y to explain t h i s better The whole

23 neighborhood i s on c i t y water The c i t y s drinking

24 water does not come from the groundwater i n t h i s area

25 There i s no impact to the drinking water that you have

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

source material that I was discussing a moment ago

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

want to make sure we covered that 25

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

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f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

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i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 i n t h i s area

2 The groundwater i s contaminated And the

3 way people can be exposed i n t h i s case with a solvent

4 l i k e trichloroethylene or tetrachloroethylene i t tends

5 to evaporate out of the water I t s a l i t t l e b i t l i k e

6 bubbles coming out of a bo t t l e of soda I t s not

7 exactly that way but i t s a useful way to think about

8 i t The solvent wants to be a gas so i t comes out of

9 the water

10 As gas i t tends to migrate through the

11 s o i l I t tends to migrate upward I f i t migrates

12 upward and comes out i n your lawn or something l i k e

13 that i t s not a problem

14 If i t migrates up and comes into someones

15 basement or the crawl space and can accumulate there i t

16 can reach level s that are above le v e l s that we believe

17 are safe for human health

18 We do have t o x i c o l o g i s t s here who are

19 available to chat with you about that i n the informal

20 part of the presentation l a t e r So vapor i n t r u s i o n i s a

21 process of t h i s solvent coming out of groundwater

22 migrating into peoples homes and p o t e n t i a l l y reaching

23 l e v e l s that could affect human health

24 As far as we know that i s the only way

25 that people i n the neighborhood can be exposed to t h i s

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

work plans that w i l l describe exactly how theyre going

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

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20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

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153 346b r i n g 421519

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Broadus 81523

385 2010

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chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

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2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

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chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

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4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

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copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

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1 chemical I t s not i n your drinking water

2 So as I said the work i n the order

3 requires PerkinElmer to investigate and clean up the

4 contamination and to address the vapor i n t r u s i o n issues

This picture here i s a picture that I

6 pulled out of a s i t e that I worked on a number of years

7 ago I t s an example of the kind of machinery that

8 would be used to i n s t a l l the monitoring w e l l

9 There are several d i f f e r e n t types of work

that we are going to need to do here to make sure that

11 we can understand exactly how far t h i s contamination has

12 gone and c o l l e c t additional data that can help us

13 decide what type of technology to use and where to use

14 i t

And as Dave said the work i s going to be

16 done by PerkinElmer Theyre paying for i t But i t

17 w i l l be done by EPA oversight We w i l l be reviewing

18 t h e i r work plans We w i l l be approving the reports for

19 the work that they do

And to get back to how i t w i l l be described

21 i n the order i t s e l f the tasks that I referred to

22 e a r l i e r the tasks are f a i r l y generally described i n the

23 order

24 As we go forward PerkinElmer w i l l write

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

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20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

want to make sure we covered that 25

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

25 area

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

16 o t h e r w i s e i n t e r e s t e d i n the outcome o f the a c t i o n

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CELENA D MOULTON Notary Public Notary Seal

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

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t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 to do each phase of the work Thats a document that

2 the EPA w i l l review to make sure theyre adequate and

3 w i l l approve PerkinElmer to go through and do that work

4 That w i l l be for several phases that you w i l l see for

5 the work i n the order

6 The f i r s t task that y o u l l see i n the order

7 when you take a look at i t i s to deal with the immediate

8 r i s k to the households that have vapors i n t h e i r homes

9 above that health-based r i s k l e v e l

10 And that as I said e a r l i e r has already

11 been done Out of the ten homes that were tested f i v e

12 of them did have level s that were above the health-based

13 r i s k standard And those vapor i n t r u s i o n systems that

14 you very generically described here have already been

15 i n s t a l l e d

16 I t s b a s i c a l l y a process of sucking the

17 contaminated vapors out from beneath the slab or the

18 bottom of your basement before they have a chance to get

19 into your home They get sucked out and then ejected i n

20 a pipe thats on the side of the house They go out

21 into the ambient a i r where i t s no longer i n a

22 concentration that can be of r i s k to people

23 So going forward I know that theres been

24 a l o t of questions about whether other homes w i l l be

25 tested whether other homes w i l l have those systems

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

want to make sure we covered that 25

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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State of Missouri St Louis City

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

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l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

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makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

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m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 i n s t a l l e d The work that were going to be doing i n

2 t h i s order under the e a r l i e r tasks w i l l give us the

3 information we need to decide which homes are at r i s k

4 that w i l l be tested And thats not something that we

5 w i l l be able to answer tonight

6 I know a l o t of you w i l l want that answered

7 right away We dont have a l l the information we need

8 yet to decide exactly whose homes need to be tested

9 A l l r i g h t This i s an example of another

10 type of f i e l d instrument that w i l l be used p o t e n t i a l l y

11 here This c o l l e c t s s o i l samples And t h i s i s

12 something that w i l l be part of the supplemental

13 investigation work plan thats probably going to s t a r t

14 i n l a t e November

15 This i s a work plan that MDNR had put

16 together before the s i t e was referred to EPA but were

17 using i t because i t includes a l o t of useful work that

18 we need to do I t helps us move forward more quickly

19 Coming up i n November were going to have

20 PerkinElmer out here c o l l e c t i n g s o i l and samples

21 Theyre going to be i n s t a l l i n g monitoring wells i n the

22 neighborhood These are permanent monitoring wells that

23 w i l l be sampled from time to time

24 We w i l l be using that data when we get i t

25 on where the contamination i s i n the groundwater and

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

source material that I was discussing a moment ago

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

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f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

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47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 where i t i s i n the s o i l and i n the gas i n the s o i l to

2 help us determine what other homes might be at r i s k

3 At that point any homes that might be

4 i d e n t i f i e d that might be at r i s k the owners would be

5 contacted to arrange sampling Again t h i s w i l l a l l be

6 subject to EPA oversight and review and approval to make

7 sure that our t o x i c o l o g i s t s geologists our s c i e n t i s t s

8 review i t to make sure that were taking the appropriate

actions 9

10 Once we have that data we w i l l need to go

11 back and work more on the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y

12 i t s e l f the i n d u s t r i a l f a c i l i t y north of the road there

13 Because as much work as we can do on addressing the

14 groundwater plume there i s source material that w i l l

continue to contaminate the groundwater i f we dont 15

remove i t 16

17 The source material o r i g i n a l l y was the

solvents that the PerkinElmer f a c i l i t y used Once i t 18

was s p i l l e d onto the ground i t mixed into the s o i l 19

20 Even i f we were able to clean up the plume

21 more groundwater w i l l move into the area and w i l l

contact that source material and w i l l continue to 22

generate a groundwater plume 23

24 The ultimate goal i s to remove that source

25 I t w i l l be gone once the source i s gone I f we dont

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

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c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

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c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

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copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

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d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

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d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

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week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

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w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

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well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

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woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

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1 get the source the plume w i l l remain Theres an

2 additional amount of work that we need to do at the s i t e

3 to determine exactly where t h i s source material i s so

4 that we can treat i t or render i t so i t cannot move

anymore so i t w i l l not continue to contaminate the

6 groundwater

7 That w i l l be you know an ad d i t i o n a l

8 process that w i l l involve additional s o i l samples

9 p o t e n t i a l l y additional sampling wells on the Missouri

Metals f a c i l i t y i t s e l f et cetera

11 So the work that we have been doing and the

12 work were going to continue to do i n the work under the

13 tasks i n t h i s order i t s a l l to determine how we can

14 best clean up the s i t e i n the long-term

In the short-term were focusing on the

16 actions that w i l l protect the residents from any

17 unacceptable human health r i s k That so far has been

18 mainly i n the form of indoor a i r t e s t i n g and i n s t a l l i n g

19 the vapor mitigation systems

Thats the short-term part that keeps

21 people safe and gives us the time to do the

22 more-detailed analyses and investigations to determine

23 how we can clean t h i s up permanently i n the long-term

24 Thats mostly the process of removing the

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

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20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

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153 346b r i n g 421519

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Broadus 81523

385 2010

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chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

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2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

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chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

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4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

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copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

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1 Once that source material i s removed the groundwater

2 plume w i l l n a t u r a l l y over time disappear

3 So these are the things that youre

4 probably going to see happening i n the neighborhood i n

5 the next few months or that you already have seen

6 happening

7 Obviously there are f i v e vapor m i t i g a t i o n

8 systems that are already i n s t a l l e d and operating Next

9 week the PerkinElmer people w i l l be out to take an

10 a d d i t i o n a l sample of the wells and make sure that

11 theyre operating properly and protecting those

12 residents

13 Because vapor migration into your home i s

14 p a r t l y c o n t r o l l e d by the weather and whether you have

15 your windows open or closed whether your a i r

16 conditioner i s running or your heater i s running i t

17 a f f e c t s how those vapors w i l l migrate into the homes

18 So there w i l l be periodic sampling through

19 the ten homes that are currently being sampled

20 throughout the years to see i f seasons and how you use

21 your a i r conditioner and heater a f f e c t how those vapors

22 are migrated into your home Additional samples w i l l

23 be -- or vapor m i t i g a t i o n systems w i l l be i n s t a l l e d i n

24 homes

25 The step-out vapor i n t r u s i o n sampling that

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

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20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

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chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

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1 I mentioned there i s something that we w i l l evaluate

2 once we have the data from the add i t i o n a l s o i l and s o i l

3 gas and groundwater i n v e s t i g a t i o n that PerkinElmer w i l l

4 s t a r t doing i n November

5 And as I said i f those r e s u l t s indicate

6 that a d d i t i o n a l homes are at r i s k s we w i l l contact

7 those homeowners to get those homes sampled

8 And i f those samples from those a d d i t i o n a l

9 homes indicate that there are unacceptable r i s k s i n

10 those homes those homes w i l l also receive the vapor

11 mitigation systems very s i m i l a r to the ones that are

12 already i n s t a l l e d

13 And again i n November youre going to

14 see some d r i l l i n g r i g s and trucks i n the neighborhood

15 for i n s t a l l i n g those monitoring wells for i n s t a l l i n g

16 these s o i l gas sampling points

17 PerkinElmer w i l l need to get access to

18 c e r t a i n properties to do that work And i f your

19 property i s one where a monitoring w e l l or a s o i l gas

20 point i s planned I would ask you you know to

21 cooperate with them and grant access so we can gather

22 the data that we need to do our inve s t i g a t i o n s

23 And with that Belinda should I turn i t

24 back to you or Shawn

25 MR GRINDSTAFF This s l i d e here i s very

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

and statements and anything else you might have So I 24

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

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allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

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385 2010

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chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

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2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

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chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

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c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

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committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

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c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

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c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

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convey 503

cooperate

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copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

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c o s t 3316

couple 78

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c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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1 important I l l probably say t h i s a few more times

2 before we break up here i n a l i t t l e b i t And that i s

3 that you have u n t i l November 19th And I know there

4 were a few more people that came i n l a t e So I w i l l

5 t e l l you t h i s i s n t the end of t h i s tonight

6 In fact Belinda t o l d me and reminded me

7 again a few minutes ago that they w i l l be back at the

8 church for further l i s t e n i n g posts as w e l l I f you

9 ar r i v e d l a t e I was explaining that we have several

10 things that were t r y i n g to accomplish tonight

11 But we dont have a l o t of time But

12 thats something thats r e a l l y c r i t i c a l That i s i f

13 you would l i k e to t a l k to Belinda you can do t h i s

14 formally You can comment however you want You can

15 mail i t or t h e y l l be back here -shy

16 MS YOUNG E-mail

17 MR GRINDSTAFF Okay And then t h e y l l

18 have more l i s t e n i n g posts and be available here as

w e l l 19

20 So i f we run out of time tonight and there

21 are more people that wanted to speak i t s okay that

22 y o u l l have other chances to do that And obviously

23 u n t i l November 19th w e l l accept any and a l l comments

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

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c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

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c ontaminati on 97

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c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

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copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

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d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

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d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

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1 The other thing before we go into the

2 questions and comments i n which I l l carry the mic to

3 the person speaking i s a second part that I neglected

4 to mention about t h i s order that i s on t h i s fact sheet

I want to read i t to you because i t s well-worded

6 Because that i s the mission of tonight with t h i s formal

7 part of the meeting

8 The EPA w i l l consider a l l comments

9 received And i t may seek modification or decline to

enter into t h i s order i f comments received disclose

11 facts or considerations which indicate that the order i s

12 within the three Is inappropriate improper or

13 inadequate

14 So with our questions and comments tonight

thats what were r e a l l y t r y i n g to hone i n on i s that

16 question That i s with t h i s order thats i n front of

17 you do you have any fact or do you want to make any

18 statements that i t would be inappropriate improper or

19 inadequate Thats r e a l l y the heart of what were doing

now

21 I had two cards that had names on them I

22 believe Then we l l take the mic wherever we may go

23 I t i s Maureen Boone Okay And well s t a r t here

24 And the other thing i f I can ask you just

i n the interest of time for everybodys sake weve got

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

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f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

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47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

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h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 to get i n the other group too On the church clock

2 here i t s about 740 So we probably one way or the

3 other need to be done by 8 805 So i f you could keep

4 your commentsstatements at a minimum that means more

5 people can t a l k And two-and-three part questions

6 l e t s see i f we can avoid that at the outset

7 MR BOONE And I would just l i k e to say

8 that you know the house that -- my grandmothers house

9 at 1914 Chicago Heights at the park there seems to be

10 cloudy water I dont know what that was about I t s

11 very cloudy Thats been for over years and decades I

12 can remember So thats what I had to say

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Thank you Kim Heggs

14 MS HEGGS My question i s My moms home

15 has been here for about 40 years and the basement

16 always leaked because the builders didnt do the

17 foundation properly

18 So my question i s I f the TCE i s found i n

19 her a i r at 1401 Werremeyer with the basement always

20 leaking and i t s t i l l i s what r i s k i s that

21 MR GRAVATT Thats something that weve

22 got some figures on here on these easels i n front and

23 back We can look at them one-on-one and compare the

24 l o c a tion of that home to where we have information

25 showing the plume i s at t h i s point and maybe answer

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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State of Missouri St Louis City

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 your question more d e f i n i t i v e l y there

2 MR GRINDSTAFF I f youre i n my l i n e of

3 sight I l l come to you

4 MS LAMB With the groundwater flows to

5 the r i v e r -- I moved to Oli v e t t e So how do you know

6 that i t hasnt been exposed over there Also youre

7 testing the land but what about the people What i s

8 the h a l f - l i f e of the chemicals i n the peoples bodies

9 Theyre not even here now Some of them have died

10 MR GRAVATT To answer the f i r s t part of

11 your question were going to compare the location of

12 her grandmothers home to where we know the plume to be

13 at t h i s time

14 Part of the reason were doing t h i s

15 additional task with PerkinElmer i s to make sure we know

16 f u l l y where t h i s s t u f f i s We dont have the data to

17 say Heres the st u f f here Thats the kind of data

18 we need

19 Were going to take groundwater samples

20 further away from the Missouri Metals f a c i l i t y to f i n d

21 out how far i t goes Well f i n d out i f i t goes to the

22 r i v e r or where i t stops Thats something that we

23 d e f i n i t e l y need to f i n d out

24 MS LAMB What are you doing to f i n d out

25 how i t s a f f e c t i n g people b i o l o g i c a l l y

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

25 area

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

25 somebody off I t could Would that scare

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

16 o t h e r w i s e i n t e r e s t e d i n the outcome o f the a c t i o n

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 MR GRAVATT That i s a question Im not

2 prepared to answer You can ask the t o x i c o l o g i s t s

3 one-on-one

4 MR GRINDSTAFF Well have break-out

5 areas One of the areas w i l l be for environmental

6 areas The other w i l l be for health questions how i t

7 affects people So I w i l l advise you to go t a l k to

8 them

9 MS ROBINSON Regarding the order i s

10 there anything i n the order that would allow homeowners

11 to be i n contact with the s i t e Is there any

12 considerations made for them i n the order

13 Because now that the entire -- I mean t h i s

14 i s on the news and everything Now that the entire

15 St Louis Metro area knows that t h i s p a r t i c u l a r

16 neighborhood has a problem Im going to have to

17 disclose that when I go to s e l l my home

18 I f Im going to have to s e l l my home Im

19 going to need something from the EPA that says that my

20 home i s not within that plume area i f i t indeed i s

21 not

22 MR HOEFER Is your house now within the

23 plume

24 MS ROBINSON You say i t s outside the

25 area

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

25 somebody off I t could Would that scare

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

l i t t l e b i t l i k e a chimney I t does not exhaust below

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

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6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

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chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

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chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

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c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

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committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

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c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

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1 MR HOEFER I cant provide l e g a l advice

2 Youre required to disclose any material facts that

3 youre aware of that affect your property We have a

4 f a i r l y well-delineated area of contamination that we

5 believe the plume i s within the Elmwood Park area I f

6 i t s outside that area you have no obligation to

7 disclose anything i f youre outside the area of the

8 plume because youre l i k e l y not affected by that plume

9 Again Im not giving you s p e c i f i c l e g a l

10 advice but I think thats kind of a material item I

11 think you could disclose Because the evidence theres

12 no information i n d i c a t i n g i t affects your property at

13 t h i s point

14 MR GRINDSTAFF The f i r s t two comments I

15 read had the name That was b e n e f i c i a l to the court

16 reporter and so Im going to ask i f you could i d e n t i f y

17 yourself too Because the minute you l e f t your

18 cards -- i f you could i d e n t i f y yourself

19 MS LAMB My name i s C h r i s t i n a Lamb

20 MS ROBINSON Kim Robinson

21 MR GRINDSTAFF Who was next Okay

22 Well s t a r t here and then well head over there

23 MS JEFFRIES My name i s June J e f f r i e s

24 and I l i v e on Wishart And the lady who spoke a while

25 ago she was asking almost the same question I wanted

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

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i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 to

2 Would t h i s e f f e c t -- i f you want to s e l l

3 your home I was t o l d that our property has gone down

4 I dont know i f t h i s i s true But I heard that i t did

5 go down And I know -- w e l l I dont know

6 I know i n r e a l estate i f you t r y to s e l l

7 your home they have to have everything thats there

8 about your home as far as the land and whatever So who

9 would want to move out here

10 And I dont believe even a f t e r they clean

11 i t up people do not believe that t h i s w i l l be cleaned

12 up I mean Im just going to be honest about i t They

13 r e a l l y dont

14 MR HOEFER With regard to mdash I believe

15 that i f you have a mitigation unit i n place -- a l o t of

16 people have radon units i n t h e i r house Vapor

17 i n t r u s i o n i f you have vapor i n your house thats

18 taking care of the problem

19 From a p r a c t i c a l standpoint you know does

20 that reduce the l i v e a b i l i t y of your home Probably not

21 I mean you have the inconvenience of having -- minimal

22 inconvenience having a unit i n your house

23 Do you have to disclose that

24 l i k e l y may have to disclose that May that

25 somebody off I t could Would that scare

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

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community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

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pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

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3718 remember 491 2512

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reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

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922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

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r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

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v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 Frankly i t shouldnt Your house i s the same with that

2 unit i n place as with no contamination

3 We understand You say superfund and i t

4 scares people o f f We understand that happens From

5 the health perspective we dont think that should be an

6 impediment to people l i v i n g there

7 MR PRUITT Adolphus P r u i t t NAACP I

8 have a technical question I may be able to help those

9 property owners

10 I know you want to break out into

11 i n d i v i d u a l groups and have a dialogue with i n d i v i d u a l s

12 Would that be part of th i s record

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Typically they are more

14 informal e s p e c i a l l y with health questions When were

15 done with t h i s portion we would have the court reporter

16 shut down that part We would have people s t i l l be here

17 to t a l k

18 MR PRUITT I guess my concern i s outside

19 of i n d i v i d u a l health just t h i s question about the

20 grandmothers health i n the plume area and other wards

21 there may be some dialogue that comes out that addresses

22 the outline that you just read that addresses the

23 public documents that may be a part of t h i s public

24 record

25 Im tr y i n g to figure out When you do t h i s

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

l i t t l e b i t l i k e a chimney I t does not exhaust below

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

i t s p u b l i c l y available Somebody can go there and get

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

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f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

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form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 breakout how does that portion become a part of the

2 public record e s p e c i a l l y i f somebody i s c r i t i c a l l y

3 sensitive

4 MR HOEFER Unfortunately some of t h i s i s

5 driven by the l e g a l concerns Were required by law to

6 get comments on the order whether theres any aspect on

7 whether i t s inappropriate inadequate That i s

8 required by law

9 One of the reasons we have a public

10 a v a i l a b i l i t y session i s to allow people to ask

11 questions Some people dont want shy - p a r t i c u l a r l y i f

12 we have contamination i f we have a VI unit i n t h e i r

13 house they dont want other people necessarily to know

14 that

15 So we do have a requirement to protect

16 personal information which people dont want revealed i n

17 a public se t t i n g So i t s i n t e n t i o n a l on our part

18 We want the record r e a l l y to address the

19 statutory requirement That i s i s t h i s order improper

20 or inadequate And i f so why

21 MR PRUITT Let me give a quick example

22 Say her grandmothers house turns out to be impacted on

23 the plume area Well her grandmother has neighbors

24 She knows or the grandmother knows but now the

25 neighbors didnt nor has that information become a part

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

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6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

16 o t h e r w i s e i n t e r e s t e d i n the outcome o f the a c t i o n

17

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State of Missouri St Louis City

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

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1 of the public record Because public records we would

2 have access to af t e r the comment period which means

3 they w i l l have a chance to discover that by looking at

4 the end document

5 Im just t r y i n g to figure out how do we

6 ensure that additional facts that are essential and

7 c r i t i c a l to the residents or t h e i r neighbors get to

8 them even though your purpose was to answer that

9 p a r t i c u l a r question for that p a r t i c u l a r home

10 MR HOEFER Let me state t h i s i s not the

11 only time to provide comments That i s how we get a l l

12 of our comments A l o t of people dont want to p u b l i c l y

13 t a l k about t h e i r s i t u a t i o n They w i l l e-mail t h e i r

14 comments

15 It s incorporated into the record that way

16 Any comments that are submitted into e-mail or through

17 the mail make i t into the record

18 MR PRUITT My second question i s I

19 think that i t s essential that t h i s advisory group be

20 formed In conjunction to that there r e a l l y needs to

21 be an independent technical consultant that they can

22 r e l y on throughout the process to keep them informed and

23 things l i k e that

24 I know I saw a grant process Is that a

25 potential source to provide the community that sort of

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

l i t t l e b i t l i k e a chimney I t does not exhaust below

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

i t s p u b l i c l y available Somebody can go there and get

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

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f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 independent voice that they can r e l y on and converse

2 with i n between the meetings

3 MS YOUNG We have resources to help

4 groups community advisory groups that can provide

5 technical assistance to help people understand

6 documents technical documents that they can help

7 interpret those documents

8 So when groups are formed were able to

9 have independent people come and help the community

10 advisory group understand so they can bring those

11 concerns or those issues to the table and serve as the

12 l i a i s o n between a community and here

13 That process would be for comments This

14 stage r i g h t now i s on the order

15 MR PRUITT And for those homeowners i f

16 you r e a l l y have a concern i t would cost some money but

17 you can always go ahead and get your i n d i v i d u a l Phase 1

18 i f necessary Phase 2 environmental study for your

19 home

20 And that way i t would give information that

21 you can give to a buyer to make sure theres no

22 contamination there And i f that information i s wrong

23 that person who provides i t they have a l i a b i l i t y

24 s i t u a t i o n So theyre going to be f a i r l y thorough i n

25 providing that

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

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16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

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6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

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10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

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1 MR HOEFER Let me check these two over

2 here

3 MS ESTHERS My name i s V i o l e t Esthers I

4 understand about you a l l placing those things to tes t

In the houses that you place them w i l l the people be

6 trained on how theyre running i n case -- I mean how

7 would you know i t s operating c o r r e c t l y I guess i s the

8 question i f you dont know how i t s supposed to

9 operate

And then youre saying the s t u f f w i l l be

11 l e t out i n the a i r where i t s harmless But as i t s

12 coming out i s i t harmless i f children are around per

13 se

14 MR GRAVATT The f i r s t part of that was

about how the homeowner with the systems could maintain

16 them or make sure theyre operating properly The

17 contractors that i n s t a l l those systems are giving

18 homeowners an informational packet that helps them to

19 understand what i t s doing and how to make sure that

i t s operating properly

21 As far as the gases that are exhausted from

22 th i s system whether those are a r i s k to children the

23 place that exhausts the vapors from these vapor

24 mitigation systems extends up to the roof l i n e I t s a

l i t t l e b i t l i k e a chimney I t does not exhaust below

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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CELENA D MOULTON Notary Public Notary Seal

State of Missouri St Louis City

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

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mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

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slow 4110

s l o w l y

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soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

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1 the roof l e v e l I t dissipates before i t can be breathed

2 by anyone

3 MS KNIGHT My name i s P h y l l i s Knight

4 Im also here with the NAACP Im also here as a former

5 resident of Elmwood

6 I want to go back to Adolphuss comments

7 When we get into breakout group sessions i f a person

8 that has some concerns about t h e i r health wants i t to be

9 part of public record do we have that option tonight as

10 w e l l since youre saying that that part of the program

11 i s r e a l l y off-record What i f we so choose to Is that

12 possible

13 MR GRINDSTAFF Once the court reporter

14 stops recording there w i l l be nothing that w i l l be part

15 of the o f f i c i a l record of t h i s p a r t i c u l a r meeting

16 But you always have the option to send us a

17 comment to say whatever you want to say I f a person

18 wants to disclose that kind of information they are

19 free to do so

20 MS KNIGHT Well I c e r t a i n l y understand

21 the need for neighbors and former residents of Elmwood

22 to have some kind of understanding about what others are

23 going through what they may be experiencing i f they so

24 want them to

25 How do you suggest that that can be done

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

i t s p u b l i c l y available Somebody can go there and get

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

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f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

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form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 Knocking door-to-door or something

2 MR GRINDSTAFF As Belinda was describing

3 thats the function of the community advisory group to

4 get information and get those questions answered That

would be appropriate

6 MR GRAVATT There are l o t s of ways to do

7 that This i s n t i t tonight

8 MS YOUNG After a l l the comments have

9 been submitted either at t h i s meeting or by e-mail or by

mail a l l of those comments become a part of the public

11 record so that you can see those comments

12 This process i s one of the ways to comment

13 You can also submit comments by mail e-mail and then

14 that becomes a public record

And that information any public

16 information which I didnt emphasize as well e a r l i e r

17 are going to be at a l l of those locations on the wall

18 posted behind you those l i b r a r i e s our website becomes

19 public information So i t w i l l be documented however i t

comes to us

21 MR HOEFER Thats r i g h t At these

22 repositories a l l the comments that are made w i l l be put

23 at the repositories They have three repositories now

24 We have t h i s order i n the repository so

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

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chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

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c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

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committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

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c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

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terms 425

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t i g h t 4117

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wrong 33 22

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1 a copy I t s also on our website As we have received

2 comments i t s going to be a dynamic thing And

3 throughout the time here working on the s i t e we w i l l be

4 adding things to the repository The idea to that i s we

5 want to keep the community constantly informed of what

6 were doing i f that makes sense

7 MR GINDSTAFF Time i s t i c k i n g Well

8 have t h i s person speak and then there was a gentleman

9 back here who has been holding his hand up a l i t t l e b i t

10 Well go over there next Well keep going And keep

11 your comments b r i e f so we can hear more people

12 MS STEWART My name i s Deshad Stewart I

13 grew up i n the area I t says that PerkinElmers

14 purchased the property i n 88 So you dont know who

15 dumped the bad -- the contamination

16 MR GRAVATT The s i t e has gone through a

17 number of owners since i t was f i r s t there i n the 1950s

18 It s not clear from the records exactly when t h i s

19 contaminant was a l l s p i l l e d whether i t was s p i l l e d at

20 once or whether i t was s p i l l e d several times over the

21 years We dont know

22 We do know that when PerkinElmer purchased

23 the s i t e i n 88 they did some checking and found out

24 that t h i s material had been released p r i o r to them

25 buying t h i s

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

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1 MS STEWART And they waited u n t i l now to

2 t e l l us

3 MR GRAVATT Theyve been working with

4 MDNR before the EPA

5 MR BROADUS Ron Broadus My wife and I

6 had to have our home tested We couldnt f i n d anyone to

7 test i t because i t was going to be a large s u i t with

8 t h i s Who do we t a l k to about having our home tested

9 MR HOEFER We cant recommend any

10 p a r t i c u l a r vendor We cant recommend any company

11 Were not l e g a l l y allowed to do that I would imagine

12 any environmental company any engineering company with

13 the expertise i n doing t h i s type of sampling

14 The fact that i t s a superfund s i t e should

15 have no effect on t h e i r a b i l i t y to do test i n g Im kind

16 of puzzled by why somebody would have said that They

17 would incur no l i a b i l i t y for doing i t

18 So you should be able to f i n d i n the

19 phonebook i n the yellow pages or on the internet l i k e l y

20 nowadays an environmental company or environmental

21 assessment-type company that would do t h i s type of work

22 This superfund s i t e should not be an

23 impediment i n any way So Im kind of puzzled by why

24 somebody would have said that I would think they would

25 want the business frankly

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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State of Missouri St Louis City

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

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23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

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p e rsonal 3116

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phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

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p r o d u ctive 10 2

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p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

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proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

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p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

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r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

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3718 remember 491 2512

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reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

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r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

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slow 4110

s l o w l y

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soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 We had pointed out that you could get

2 comments on the record tonight An easy way to do i t

3 sometimes people dont want to get up We have those

4 blue cards and you a l l saw them probably when you came

i n tonight

6 But f e e l free to write -- i f you want

7 anything i n the record that youre not comfortable

8 getting up and t a l k i n g about whatever f e e l free to

9 write i t out on a blue card and leave i t with us leave

i t with Belinda or Pam back there We ask that you put

11 your name on i t But we w i l l ensure that we w i l l get

12 that into the public record Thats another way to do

13 i t

14 MS YOUNG Theres index cards and paper

i f you want to write something down for times sake

16 MR GRINDSTAFF Let me ask a question

17 here Weve got a few minutes to play with

18 How many people would l i k e to make a quick

19 comment or statement before we break i t up I f you kept

i t absolutely as b r i e f as possible l e t s go -- i f other

21 people have no strong objection l e t s go a few more

22 minutes Were going to s t a r t here and t r y to

23 methodically move around Lets go through i t very

24 quickly

MS WEST My name i s Valer i e West and I

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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CELENA D MOULTON Notary Public Notary Seal

State of Missouri St Louis City

^ 1 0 4 3 1 0 7 5

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CELENA D MOUK CCR L i c e n s e No 700

N o t a r y P u b l i c w i t h i n and f o r t h e S t a t e of M i s s o u r i

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

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p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

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p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

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301224 r e l e v a n t

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32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

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reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

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slow 4110

s l o w l y

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soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

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t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

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t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

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US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 have a question regarding the cleanup In the f i r s t

2 meeting that you a l l had and you had i n the Power Point

3 that i n 2004 that the company EGG informed you a l l that

4 t h e i r cleanup e f f o r t s did not work

I went through t h i s entire document that

6 you are proposing for cleanup What i n t h i s document

7 w i l l give -- states what w i l l happen i f t h i s cleanup

8 e f f o r t doesnt work again

9 I t took us eight years to f i n d out that

f i r s t e f f o r t s didnt work What i s d i f f e r e n t i n here i n

11 these tasks to be performed thats d i f f e r e n t than what

12 they did before

13 MR HOEFER One thing thats r e a l l y

14 fundamental and basic and very important i s that t h i s

does provide for the vapor in t r u s i o n That i s the

16 primary exposure that were concerned with at t h i s

17 point

18 The groundwater nobody i s i n contact with

19 the groundwater Nobody i s drinking the groundwater

S o i l contamination may ex i s t at the Missouri Metals

21 f a c i l i t y We have no reason to expect that people are

22 i n contact with that exposure

23 The major thing we are concerned about i s

24 vapor int r u s i o n i n peoples homes We are addressing

that through t h i s e f f o r t

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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State of Missouri St Louis City

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

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mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

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301224 r e l e v a n t

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32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

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soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

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US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 MS WEST I understand that I f you stand

2 at the top of Elmridge and you pour water downhill that

3 water i s migrating through Youre saying i t s r i g h t at

4 the top of the h i l l but i f I pour a glass of water

out that water i s going to run downhill I am downhill

6 on Elmridge There i s no way you can t e l l me that

7 stopped at the top of the h i l l how large t h i s plume i s

8 MR HOEFER This i s not -- t h i s

9 contamination does not t r a v e l l i k e water -- l i k e a

tabletop I mean i t s a very slow process through the

11 subsurface So i t takes years

We f e e l l i k e based on the information that 12

13 we currently have that the contamination i n the shallow

14 aquifer i s f a i r l y well-defined and i s f a i r l y stable

Im not a geologist Im looking at Dan here that

given the clayey nature of the s o i l given the very 16

t i g h t nature of the s o i l s that t h i s i s going to move 17

very slowly Am I somewhat on-point on that 18

MR GRAVATT Yeah Youre somewhat 19

on-point on that We cannot draw a s o l i d l i n e on a map

with the data we have now Part and parcel i s to get 21

the data we need to make that determination 22

23 SPEAKER How long w i l l that take

24 MS WEST Are there going to be provisions

for a buyout i f these things dont pan out and people

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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CELENA D MOULTON Notary Public Notary Seal

State of Missouri St Louis City

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CELENA D MOUK CCR L i c e n s e No 700

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

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most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

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NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

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32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

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soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 want to move Im sure there are people who have been

2 here forever and they dont want to stay Are you going

3 to include anything i n t h i s document to include buyouts

4 for people that want to go

MR HOEFER We dont think that i n terms

6 of l i k e a buyout or anything l i k e that we dont think

7 that that would be required at a l l I mean r i g h t now

8 we think that the exposures can be addressed through

9 vapor mitigation systems

We are charged by Congress to protect human

11 health and the environment We think we can adequately

12 do that through the mitigation systems et cetera With

13 regard to -- i f you think your property i s affected you

14 think i t affects the s a l e a b i l i t y of your property Im

not going to argue that that might be the case Thats

16 the r e a l i t y of i t

17 Whether or not your property i s any less

18 l i v a b l e due to contamination again i t very w e l l may be

19 the case that i f you have no vapor i n t r u s i o n within your

residence that theres no reason why somebody cant l i v e

21 there forever I f they have no exposure to

22 contamination i t s not a problem

23 Theres possibly the stigma that people

24 wont want to l i v e i n an area where they think theres

contamination We dont get involved with -- i f you

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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CELENA D MOULTON Notary Public Notary Seal

State of Missouri St Louis City

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CELENA D MOUK CCR L i c e n s e No 700

N o t a r y P u b l i c w i t h i n and f o r t h e S t a t e of M i s s o u r i

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

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o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

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p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

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23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

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p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

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p r o d u ctive 10 2

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p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

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p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

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p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

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pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

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q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

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r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

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supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

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tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

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t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

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two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

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u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

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understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

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u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

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v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

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VI 3112

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v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

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w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 believe theres a decrease i n the value of your

2 property we dont get involved i n that We have an

3 authority as the EPA to protect human health and the

4 environment Were not charged by Congress to protect

5 property values i f that makes sense

6 MS GLENN My name i s A l i c e Glen Ive

7 resided i n Elmwood for 20 years I f i r s t want to say

8 that the people that have gardens they need to stop

9 eating t h e i r food stop eating from the ground u n t i l a l l

10 t h i s i s straightened out

11 But I also want to know that -- you a l l are

12 saying t h i s system w i l l work At what percentage do you

13 think i t w i l l work She just stated that the f i r s t

14 e f f o r t didnt come through Okay Do you a l l have a

15 track record of t h i s type of mitigation system Do you

16 have a track record of other areas that you worked i n

17 that would l e t us know about the cleanup process you

18 know

19 There are people that are homeowners and

20 then there are other people that rent you know And

21 the homeowners need to be treated just l i k e the people

22 that are renting I t should be a l l the same

23 MR GRAVATT Sure I think what you are

24 youre confusing what Valer i e i s t a l k i n g about with

25 vapor mitigation system V a l e r i e was t a l k i n g about

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

16 o t h e r w i s e i n t e r e s t e d i n the outcome o f the a c t i o n

17

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CELENA D MOULTON Notary Public Notary Seal

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 st u f f done on the Missouri Metals property at the

2 f a c i l i t y i t s e l f to t r y to destroy the material i t s e l f

3 They t r i e d one p a r t i c u l a r technology i n one

4 f a i r l y short event That event did not f u l l y destroy

5 the source So that does not mean that f a i l e d

6 necessarily i t just means that we may have to t r y other

7 things as w e l l

8 Now the vapor int r u s i o n the vapor

9 mitigation systems that have been i n s t a l l e d on peoples

10 homes those have a great track record and are very

11 r e l i a b l e

12 When those are i n s t a l l e d the contractors

13 give the home owners information on how to t e l l i f i t s

14 s t i l l working I f i t stops working they have a number

15 to c a l l to get i t fixed

16 MR GRINDSTAFF This gentleman has been

17 waiting and then Im going to take these two But at

18 815 weve got to be wrapped up because weve got that

19 other group that wants to v i s i t p r i v a t e l y So l e t s see

20 i f you can go as quickly as possible Thank you

21 MR RASHID My name i s William Rashid

22 The question I have i s i f you have tested ten homes

23 what percentage of that i s the population

24 MR GRAVATT Do you mean how many homes

25 are i n the entire neighborhood I dont know that off

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

3

4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

16 o t h e r w i s e i n t e r e s t e d i n the outcome o f the a c t i o n

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

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US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 the top of my head

2 MR RASHID How many homes are i n the

3 neighborhood

4 MR GRAVATT So about 10 percent some

woman i s t e l l i n g me

6 MR RASHID Do you have any idea when

7 those tests w i l l occur

8 MR GRAVATT One thing we can t a l k about

9 tonight i n the breakout sessions i s what we can do i n

t h i s next breakout session thats going to happen i n

11 November

12 There are a couple of figures that show

13 where we plan do the s o i l gas and monitoring w e l l

14 i n s t a l l a t i o n s Well show you where we think the plume

i s now and how far outside of that were going with t h i s

16 f i r s t phase of invest i g a t i o n

17 I t does not go to Dielman We w i l l move

18 outward i n steps When we f e e l weve found the edge of

19 the contamination we w i l l stop

MR RASHID I have one more statement

21 One of the ladies stated that we shouldnt be eating

22 from our garden Is that a true statement

23 MR GRAVATT Again thats outside my area

24 of expertise Y o u l l need to t a l k to some of the

toxicology people here

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 MS LEWIS My name i s Neva Lewis I stay

2 right on Elmridge l i k e on top of the h i l l or r i g h t

3 behind -- or l i k e r i g h t on the side of my house i s kind

4 of a block o f f Water was bubbling out of the ground

5 I was wondering i f that was the chemical coming out of

6 the ground

7 MR GRAVATT I know the area that youre

8 ta l k i n g about Ive driven by that area a couple of

9 times That i s not related to the contaminant plume

10 There i s some sort of problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

11 system A person with the Housing Authority i s t e l l i n g

12 me thats a problem with the i r r i g a t i o n

13 MS LEWIS Since Im kind of close to the

14 place i s my home going to get tested anytime throughout

15 t h i s process that you a l l are doing the cleanup

16 MR GRAVATT Again thats not something I

17 can answer ri g h t now But we are c o l l e c t i n g additional

18 data that w i l l l e t us know i f homes are at r i s k We

19 w i l l contact the homeowners to arrange that sampling

20 MS JORDAN-IZAGUIRRE Can I just answer

21 the garden issue Im Denise Jordan-Izaguirre Im

22 with the Federal Agency For Toxic Substances and Disease

23 Registry I l l get that out of the way

24 There i s no reason -- and I just checked

25 with the EPAs t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason -- and

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING 48

1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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State of Missouri St Louis City

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

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US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 the state t o x i c o l o g i s t Theres no reason you cant

2 garden VOCs do not get into the root vegetables They

3 dont get on to the tomatoes I t i s n t uptaken There

4 are some contaminants But none of them here are the

5 kind that w i l l be uptaken

6 Weve done l o t s of studies on -- I w i l l

7 t e l l you to keep growing your vegetables I t s

8 healthier than what youre getting at the store

9 MR GRINDSTAFF This w i l l be the f i n a l

10 question Again Belinda has said i t numerous times

11 This i s n t i t A l i s t e n i n g post w i l l go on You can

12 e-mail You can mail Again i f you want things i n the

13 public record youve got a v a r i e t y of way to do that

14 This i s n t the end tonight

Then well have a breakout session 15

16 SPEAKER None of you a l l l i v e i n t h i s

17 area Youre t e l l i n g us to eat the food You a l l dont

18 l i v e here I would l i k e to know what exactly you a l l

would do 19

20 MR GRINDSTAFF Lets go ahead And then

21 we w i l l break up and conversations can continue Well

22 have people at d i f f e r e n t areas I have one other

statement to make 23

24 MS BRANCH I l i v e on top of Elmridge Road

25 for 43 years Now my house has been tested three

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1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING 48

1 times I do not have that system i n my house to clean

2 i t out and I would l i k e to know why

3 MR GRAVATT Well the resu l t s from the

4 sampling indicated that you -shy

5 MS BRANCH That I did

6 MR GRAVATT But i f i t s below the

7 health-based r i s k l e v e l -shy

8 MS BRANCH 932 We met with -- I forget

9 what her name i s

10 MR HOEFER This i s John Frey

11 MR FREY We did meet You know the

12 thing i s that there i s a l e v e l that the EPA and the

13 health folks have established that states i f you are

14 below t h i s l e v e l that you are okay

15 We met with Ms Branch correct and I

16 believe we -- I thought we explained that to you when we

17 met with you that your home did not meet the lev e l s that

18 would require a vapor mitigation system

19 MS BRANCH But i t was i n the elevated

20 l e v e l

21 MR FREY I t was i n a l e v e l that was below

22 non-detect

23 MS BRANCH Would you l i v e there

24 MR FREY I mean a l l I can say i s that i t

25 was below the health standard for what we said I dont

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

819 pm)

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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CELENA D MOULTON Notary Public Notary Seal

State of Missouri St Louis City

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CELENA D MOUK CCR L i c e n s e No 700

N o t a r y P u b l i c w i t h i n and f o r t h e S t a t e of M i s s o u r i

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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1 have the records i n front of me

2 For a TCE thats 2 micrograms per meter

3 cubed And PCE i s -- I think i t s 91 micrograms per

4 meter cubed

5 MR GRINDSTAFF A l l r i g h t Lets go ahead

6 and break up Some people s p e c i f i c a l l y are requesting

7 t h i s We want to make sure theyve got time before we

8 have to shut down

9 Let me t e l l you one more thing besides the

10 fact that t h i s process i s ongoing that i s one of the

11 groups that w i l l be i n here we have environmental we

12 have health We also have representatives from

13 PerkinElmer who are here tonight too

14 I f they would introduce themselves b r i e f l y

then y o u l l know who they are as w e l l Then were 15

going to go ahead and adjourn a f t e r t h i s introduction 16

and the court reporter w i l l be finished 17

18 MS WASCO Good evening My name i s

19 Stephanie Wasco PerkinElmer i s a US-based company

Our headquarters i s based i n Boston Massachusetts 20

Weve been operating for approximately 75 years 21

22 Were here today so youre able to puta

23 face to PerkinElmer and be able to answer questions

24 a f t e r the meeting Im here with Tom Zychinski Tom

has been working very c l o s e l y with MDNR as we l l as the 25

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

w i l l be moving into the breakout

(The meeting was adjourned at

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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

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i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

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Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

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Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

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p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

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p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

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p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

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r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

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signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

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slow 4110

s l o w l y

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soda 156

s o i l

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s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

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supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

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t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

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t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

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US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

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u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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EPA He w i l l be here with me as Im not a technical or

environmental expert

We want to convey that your health and

safety i s important to us Were committed to the

community Were committed to staying here and

answering your questions Thank you And I look

forward to speaking with you

MR GRINDSTAFF Then the formal part of

t h i s meeting for RCRA purposes i s now adjourned We

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(The meeting was adjourned at

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

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10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

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b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

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bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

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Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

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committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

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c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

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c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

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c ontaminati on 97

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c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

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copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

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c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

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d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

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d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

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d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

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d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

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draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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4 I C e l e n a D Moulton R e g i s t e r e d P r o f e s s i o n a l

5 R e p o r t e r and C e r t i f i e d Court R e p o r t e r and N o t a r y P u b l i c

6 w i t h i n and f o r the S t a t e of M i s s o u r i do hereby c e r t i f y

7 t h a t t he w i t n e s s whose t e s t i m o n y appears i n the

8 f o r e g o i n g d e p o s i t i o n was d u l y sworn by me t h a t t he

9 t e s t i m o n y of s a i d w i t n e s s was t a k e n by me t o the b e s t o f

10 my a b i l i t y and t h e r e a f t e r reduced t o t y p e w r i t i n g under

11 my d i r e c t i o n t h a t I am n e i t h e r c o u n s e l f o r r e l a t e d t o

12 nor employed by any of the p a r t i e s of the a c t i o n i n

13 w h i c h t h i s d e p o s i t i o n was t a k e n and f u r t h e r t h a t I am

14 not a r e l a t i v e o r employee of any a t t o r n e y o r c o u n s e l

15 employed by the p a r t i e s t h e r e t o n o r f i n a n c i a l l y o r

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Index

MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Larea

1 3317

10 454

1401 2519

14th 83

18th 810

1914 259

1950s 3717

19th 810 13 2 23323

2 3318 492

20 65 1412 43 7

2004 403

2nd 86

30 131 1412

40 1412 2515

43 4725

7 1121

75 4921shy

740 252

8 253

88 3714 23

805 253

815 4418

819 5012

91 493

932 488

a b i l i t y 3815

absolutely 3920

accept 23 23

access 221721 32 2

accomplish 2310

acciunulate 1515

Act 711 13

actions 199 2016

act iv i t i e s 95

adding 374

additional 16 12 20278 9 2110 22 222 68 2615 326 46 17

address 979 123 164 3118

addressed 723 428

addresses 302122

addressing 1913 4024

adequate 172

adequately 42 11

adjourn 4916

adjourned 50911

Adniinistrat i v e 621

Adolphus 307

Adolphuss 356

advice 28110

advise 211

advisory 32 19 33410 363

affect 1523 2121 283

affected 288 4213

affecting 2625

affects 2117 277 2812 42 14

Agency 617 4622

aggressive 912 12 22

aggressivel y 102

agreed 920 1211

agreeing 95

agreement 61822 77 86 17 948 19

ahead 61

13 3317 4720 49516

a i r 1721 2018 211521 2519 3411

A l i c e 436

allowed 3811

eunbient 1721

amount 202

analyses 2022

answering 506

anymore 205

anytime 4614

approached 721

approval 196

approve 173

approving 1618

approximate l y 4921

aquifer 14 11 4114

area 141824 15 1 1921

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index areaschoose

271520 25 284 567 3020 3123 3713 4224 4523 4678 4717

areas 2756 43 16 4722

argue 4215

arrange 195 4619

a r r i v e d 239

a s c e r t a i n 96

aspect 107 316

assessment-type 3821

a s s i s t a n c e 335

a t torney 616

a ttorneys 84

a u t h o r i t i e s 781415

a u t h o r i t y 433 4611

a v a i l a b i l i t y 3110

a v o i d 256

aware 283

B

back 1219 1620 1911 2224 23715 2523 356 379 3910

bad 3715

based 4112 4920

basement 1515 1718 251519

b a s i c 4014

b a s i c a l l y 1716

bear 62 1110

began 12 25

B e l i n d a 2223 23613 362 4710

beneath 1419 1717

b e n e f i c i a l 2815

b e n e f i t

13 11

b i o l o g i c a l l y 2625

b i t 911 155 232 3425 379

b l o ck 464

blue 394 9

bodies 268

b o i l e r p l a t e 820 137

Boone 2423 257

Boston 4920

b o t t l e 156

bottom 1718

Branch 4724 4858 151923

break 113 23 2 3010 3919 4721 496

break-out 274

breakout 311 357 45910 4715 5010

breathed c a r r y 351 1024

24 2b r i e f l y 4914 case 1417

153 346b r i n g 421519

33 10 c e t e r a

Broadus 81523

385 2010

bubbles 42 12 156

chance 69 b ubbling 11 8

464 17 18 323b u i l d e r s

2516 chances 23 22business

3825 charged 4210buyer 43 433 21

chat 1519buying 3725 check 341

buyout checked 4125 4624 426

checking buyouts 3723

42 3 chemical

141444 161611 C 465

chemicals c a l l 10 19 1410

4415 268

c a l l e d Chicago 621 259 1445

c h i l d r e n c a rd 3 9 9 341222

cards chimney 2421 3425 2818

choose39414

3511 care 2918

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Christinacovers

C h r i s t i n a 2819

church 238 251

c i t y 1121 1423

c i t y s 1423

c l a y e y 4116

c l e a n 131719 148 163 1920 201423 2910 481

cleaned 2911

cleanup 40146 7 4317 4615

c l e a r 93

3718

Clock 251

c l o s e 4613

c l o s e d 2115

c l o s e l y 4925

cloudy 251011

c o - l e a d i n g 1124

c o l l e c t 1612

c o l l e c t i n g 1820

46 17

c o l l e c t s 1811

comfortable 397

Commander 1125

comment 73 89 11 915 12 25 13 5 2314 322 3517 3612 3919

comments 624 73 812 1224 23 23 2428 10 2814 316 321112 14 16 3313 356 36810 111322 37211 392

c omment s statements

254

committed 5045

common 7 9

community 68 817 25 96 1127

32 25 334912 363 505

company 617 381012 2021 403 4919

compare 2523 2611

Compensatio n 711

comprehensi ve 710

9812

c o n c e n t r a t i on 1722

concern 1421 3018 3316

concerned 401623

concerns 315 3311 358

c o n c l u s i o n 1011

c o n d i t i o n e r 211621

c o n f i d e n t i a l i t y 113

confusing 4324

Congress 716 4210 43 4

c o n j u n c t i o n 32 20

Consent 622

C onservatio n 712

c o n s i d e r a t i ons 2411

27 12

c o n s t a n t l y 375

c o n sultant 3221

c ontact 1922 226 27 11 401822 4619

contacted 195

contaminant 14 1 3719 469

contaminant S 47 4

contcuninate 1915 205

contaminate d 152

17 17

c ontaminati on 97

16411 1825 284 302 3112 3322 3715

4020 41913 421822 25 4519

c ontinue 191522 20512 4721

c o n t r a c t o r s 3417 4412

c o n t r o l l e d 2114

c o n v e r s a t i o ns 4721

converse 33 1

convey 503

cooperate

22 21

copy 371

c o r r e c t 4815

c o r r e c t l y

347

c o s t 3316

couple 78

13 4 4512 468

c o u r t 921 3015 3513 49 17

covered 125 23 25

covers 1316

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index crawlenvironmental

crawl 1515

c r i t i c a l 23 12 32 7

c r i t i c a l l y 312

cubed 4934

Dan 61 718 10913 111219 4115

data 1612 1824 1910 22222 261617 412122 4618

date 131

Dave 125 1615

David 61 1316 1111 12 21

days 1225

13 1

d e al 177

decades 2511

decide 1613 1838

decided

129

d e c l i n e 249

decrease 43 1

d e f i n i t i v e l y 261

Denise 4621

d e s cribe 1625

d e s c r i b i n g 362

Deshad 3712

d estroy 4424

d e t a i l 1010

d e t a i l s 91

d e t e r m i n a t i on 4122

determine 192 20313 22

d ialogue

301121

d i e d 269

Dielman 4517

disappear 212

d i s c l o s e 2410 2717 282711 292324

3518

d i s c o v e r 323

d i s c u s s 624 719

d i s c u s s i n g 2025

Disease 4622

d i s s i p a t e s 351

d i s s o l v e 1414

d i s s o l v e d 1414

document 81819 1312 171 324 4056 42 3

documented 3619

documents 3023 3367

door-to shydoor 361

d o w n h i l l

4125

draw 4120

d r i l l i n g 2214

d r i n k i n g 142023 25 161 4019

d r i v e n 315 468

due 4218

dumped 3715

d u t i e s 121

dynamic 372

E

e-mail 2316 321316 36913 4712

e a r l i e r 132223 1622 1710 182 36 16

e a r l y 925

e a s e l s

2522

easy 392

eat 4717

e a t i n g

43 9 4521

edge 4518

e f f e c t 292 3815

e f f e c t i v e 87

e f f o r t 40825 4314

e f f o r t s 40410

EGG 403

e j e c t e d 1719

e l e v a t e d 4819

Elmridge 4126 462 4724

Elmwood 35521 43 7

emphasize 3616

end 131 235 324 4714

enforce 921

e nforceable 913

engaged 925

e ngineering 3812

ensure 326 3911

e nter 814 2410

e n t i r e 271314 405 4425

environment 4211 43 4

environment a l 616

711 275

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index EPAgardens

3318 381220 4911 502

EPA 719 87 1125 12713 16 17 172 18 16 196 248 2719 384 433 48 12 501

EPAS 913 1120 4625

e s s e n t i a l 32619

e s t a b l i s h e d 4813

e s t a t e 296

E sthers 343

evaluate 812 221

evaporate 155

evening 615 1119 4918

event 444

everybodys 611 2425

evidence 2811

exhaust

3425

exhausted 3421

exhausts 3423

e x i s t 4020

expect 4021

experience 105

e x p e r i e n c i n g 3523

expert 502

e x p e r t i s e 3813 4524

e x p l a i n 1010 1422

e x p l a i ned 4816

e x p l a i n i n g 239

exposed 15325 266

exposure 401622 42 21

exposures 428

extends 3424

extent 96

mdash

F

f ace 4923

f a c i l i t a t o r 115

f a c i l i t y 191112 18 2010 2620 4021 442

f a c t 1421 236 24 417 3814 4910

f a c t s 2411 282 326

f a i l e d 445

f a i r l y 79 818 1622 284 33 24 4114 444

f e d e r a l 921 4622

f e e l 396 8 4112 4518

f e e t 1412

f i e l d 1810

f i g u r e 3025 325

f i g u r e s 25 22 4512

f i n a l 479

f i n d 817 262021 2324 38618 409

f i n d i n g s 821

f i n i s h e d 4917

f i x e d

4415

flows 264

f o c u s i n g 2015

f o l k s 12 24 4813

food 439 47 17

f o r e v e r 42 221

f o r g e t

488

form 2018

formal 246 508

f o r m a l l y 2314

format 1015

formed 3220 33 8

forward 1624

17 23 1818 507

found 1217 2518 3723 4518

foundation 2517

f r a n k l y 104 301 3825

f r e e 3519 3968

Frey 109 1124 481011 21 24

f r o n t 610 1223 24 16 2522 491

f u l l y 13 19 2616 444

f u n c t i o n 363

fundamental 4014

garden 4522 4621 472

gardens 43 8

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index gashomeowners

gas 158 10 191 22316 19 4513

gases 3421

gather 2221

g e n e r a l l y 1622

generate 1923

g e n e r i c a l l y 1311 1714

gentleman 378 4416

g e o l o g i s t 4115

g e o l o g i s t s 197

get a l l 3211

GINDSTAFF 377

g i ve 1324 182 3121 332021 407 4413

g i v i n g 289 3417

g l a s s 414

Glen 436

GLENN 436

goal 1924

good 615 105 1119 4918

grandmother 312324

grandmother s 258

2612 3020 3122

grant 22 21 32 24

Gravatt 109 111920 134 2521 2610 27 1 3414 366 3716 383 4119 43 23 4424 454823 46716 483 6

great

4410

grew 3713

GRINDSTAFF

1013 2225 2317 2513 262 274 281421 3513 362 4416

47920 495 508

ground 141112 16 1919 439 4646

groundwater 14214 151619 24 152 21 1825 191415 2123 206 211 22 3 26419 401819

group 251 3219 3310 357 363 4419

groups 114 3011 33 48 4911

growing 477

guess 3018 347

H

h a l f - l i f e 268

hand 613 379

happen 407

45 10

happening

2146

hard 66

harmless 341112

head 2822 451

headquarter s 4920

h e a l t h 151723 20 17 276 30514 1920 358 4211 43 3 481325 4912 503

h e a l t h -based

1218 17912 487

h e a l t h i e r

478

hear 3711

heard 79 29 4

h e aring 1021 1116

h eart 2419

h eater 211621

Heggs

251314

Heights 259

h elps 3418

h i l l 414 7 462

h i s t o r y 82122

Hoefer 61516 27 22 28 1 2914 314 32 10 341 3621 389 4013 418 425 4810

h o l d i n g 379

home 1017 1719 211322 251424 2612 271718 20 293 7820 329 3319 3868 4413 4614 4817

homeowner 3415

homeowners 22 7 2710

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index homesissues

3315 3418 431921 4619

homes 1218 14220 1522 17811 2425 1838 1923 211719 24 226 7910 4024 441022 24 452 4618

hone 2415

honest

2912

hope 135

hour 1017

house

1720 258 2722 291617 22 301 311322 463 47 25 481

households 178

houses 345

Housing 4611

human 151723

2017 4210 43 3

i d e a 374 456

i d e n t i f i e d 194

i d e n t i f y 281618

image 1115

imagine 3811

imminent 72

impact 1425

impacted 3122

impaired 1117

impediment 306 3823

important 68 231 4014 504

improper 74 241218 3119

inadequate 74 241319 31720

i n a p p r o p r i a t e 74

241218 317

i n c l u d e 423

i n c l u d e s 13 18 18 17

inconvenien ce 2921

22

i n c o r p o r a t e d 3215

i n c u r 3817

independent 3221 3319

index 3914

i n d i c a t i n g 2812

i n d i v i d u a l 301119 3317

i n d i v i d u a l s 3011

indoor 2018

i n d u s t r i a l 1912

i n f o r m a l 1519 3014

i n f o r m a t i o n 1837 2524 2812 311625

33 2022 3518 36415 16 19 4112 4413

i n f o r m a t i o n a l 3418

informed 3222 375 403

i n s t a l l 168 3417

i n s t a l l a t i o ns 4514

i n s t a l l e d 12 16 1715 18 1 21823 22 12 44912

i n s t a l l i n g 1821 2018 2215

instrument 1810

i n t ense 85

i n t e n t i o n a l 3117

i n t e r e s t 2425

i n t e r e s t i n g 107

i n t e r n e t 3819

i n t e r p r e t 33 7

i n t e r p r e t e r 1117

i n t e r r u p t 1013

i n t r o d u c e 4914

i n t r o d u c t i o n 4916

i n t r u s i o n 1216 143 1520 164 17 13 2125 2917 401524 42 19 44 8

i n v e s t i g a t e 163

i n v e s t i g a t i on 1813

22 3 4516

i n v e s t i g a t i ons 2222

i n v o l v e 208

i n v o l v e d 71921 12712 4225 43 2

involvement 82223

i r r i g a t i o n 461012

i s s u e 141 4621

i s s u e s

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index itemmeet

123 164 3311

item 2810

J e f f r i e s 2823

John 109 1124 13 23 4810

Jordan shyi z a g u i r r e

462021

J u l y 128

June 2823

Kansas 112122

Kim 2513 2820

k i n d 1124 167 2617 2810 351822 381523 46313 475

Knight 35320

Knocking 361

l a d i e s

4521

l a d y 2824

Lamb 264 24 2819

l and 267 298

language 820 137

l a r g e 417

l a t e 1814 2349

law 1018 3158

lawn 1512

leaked 2516

l e a k i n g 2520

l earned 657

leave 399

l e f t 2817

l e g a l 71 714 93 13 6 2819 315

l e g a l l y 3811

l e g a l l y -b i n d i n g 94

l e g a l l y -e nforceable

918

Lenexa 1122

lessons

66

l e v e l 1219 179 351 48712 142021

l e v e l s 151623 1712 4817

Lewis 46113

l i a b i l i t y 711 33 23 3817

l i a i s o n 3312

l i b r a r i e s 3618

l i g h t 104

l i s t e n i n g 23818 47 11

l i v a b l e 42 18

l i v e 2824 422024 471618 24 4823

l i v e a b i l i t y 2920

l i v i n g 306

l o c a t i o n 2524 26 11

l o c a t i o n s 3617

long 719

20 1318 4123

long-term 1224 201423

l onger 1721

l o t 6 6 820 1014 136 1724 18617 23 11 2915 3212

l o t s 64 47 6

L o uis 27 15

M

machinery 167

made 716 2712 3622

m a i l 2315 3217 361013 4712

main 141

m aintain 3415

major 4023

make 62 922 1610 172

1968 2110 23 25 2417 2615 3217 33 21 341619 3918 4122 4723 497

makes 376 43 5

management 1210

manager 1123

manufacturi

ng 148

map 4120

Massachuset t s 4920

m a t e r i a l 191417 22 203 25 211 28210 3724 442

Maureen 2423

MDNR 127 1815 384 4925

means 254 322 446

meet 611 112 481117

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meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index meetingofficial

meeting 624 101619 247 3515 369 402 4924 50911

meetings 645 1322 33 2

mention 244

mentioned 22 1

met 1322 48815 17

Metal 148

Metals 143 1911 2010 4020 44 1

meter 4924

m e t h o d i c a l l y 3923

Metro 2715

mic 1025 24222

micrograms 4923

migrate 151011 2117

migrated 1411

2122

migrates 151114

m i g r a t i n g 1522 413

m i g r a t i o n 2113

minimal 2921

minimum 254

minute 2817

minutes 23 7 391722

m i s s i o n 246

M i s s o u r i 1437 1911 209 4020 441

m i t i g a t i o n 1216 2019 21723 22 11 2915 3424 42912 431525 449 4818

mixed 1919

mixes 1413

m o d i f i c a t i o n 249

m o d i f i e d 815

moms 2514

moment 2025

money 33 16

m o nitoring 168 182122 221519 4513

months 215

more-d e t a i l e d

2022

most-r e l e v a n t

824

move 141517 1818 1921 204 299 3923 4117 421 4517

moved 265

moves 14 16

moving 61 1111 5010

N

NAACP 3 07 354

names 2421

n a t u r a l 1416

n a t u r a l l y 212

nature 72 411617

n e c e s s a r i l y 3113 446

n eglected 243

n e g o t iate 715

n e g otiated 724 81

n e g o t i a t i n g 105

n e g o t i a t i o n 82 1222

n e g o t i a t i o n s 84 103

neighborhoo d 1 4 1 2 2 3

1525 1822 21 4 22 14 27 16 44 25 45 3

neighborhoo ds 1217

neighbors

312325 327 3521

Neva 461

news 2714

non-detect 4822

n o rth 1912

November 810 133 181419 22413 23323 4511

nowadays 3820

nvimber 11 14 12 8 16 6 37 17 44 14

numerous 4710

o b j e c t i o n 3921

o b l i g a t i o n

71 286

occur 457

October 8610

o f f - r e c o r d 3511

O f f i c e 1121

o f f i c i a l 3515

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index Olivetteplace

o l i v e t t e 265

on-point 411820

On-scene 1125

one-on-one 13 22 2523 273

ongoing

4910

open 2115

operable 917

operate 349

o p erating 21811 34716 20 4921

o p t i o n 35916

order 62225 7215 1824 81 91112 101122 12513 23 1316 16221 23 1756 182 2013 24410 11 16 27910 12 316 19 3314 3624

o r i g i n a l l y 1917

o u t l i n e 3022

o utset 256

outward 4518

o v e r s i g h t 1617 196

owners 194 309 3717 4413

5012 p m

packet 3418

pages

3819

Pam 3910

pan 4125

paper 3914

p a r c e l 4121

park 2 59 285

p a r t 1022 1323 1418 1520 1812 2020 2437 255

261014

301216 23 311 17 25 3414 35910 14 3610 4121 508

p a r t l y

2114

p a r t s 148

past 1421

Paul 146

paying 1616

PCE 14 6 493

p e n a l t i e s 91920 22

people 1014 15325 1722 2021 219 23 421 255 26725 211 291116 304616 311011 1316 3212 3359 345 3711 39318 4021 4125 421423 43 819

2021 4525 4722 496

peoples 1522 268 4024 449

percent 45 4

percentage 4312 4423

performed 91023 13810 4011

performing 92

p e r i o d 725 85 912 915 1225 322

p e r i o d i c 2118

Perkinelmer 618 76 22 8214 91519 2425 121423 1314 16316 24 173 1820 1918 219 22317 2615 3722 491319

23

Perkinelmer s 822

Perkinelmer s 3713

permanent 1822

permanently 2023

person 1025 243 3323 35717 378 4611

p e rsonal 3116

p e r s p e c t i v e 104 305

phase 171 331718 4516

phased 910

phases 174

phonebook 3819

P h y l l i s 353

p i c t u r e

165

p i e c e 116

p i e c es 63

1020

p i pe 1720

p l a c e 2915

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index placingquestions

302 34523 4614

p l a c i n g 344

p l a n 181315 4513

planned 2220

p l ans

161825

p l a y 3917

plume 191420 23 201 212 2525 26 12 272023 2858 3020 3123 417 45 14 469

p o i n t 193 22 20 2525 2813 40217

p o i n t e d 391

p o i n t s 22 16

p o p u l a t i o n 4423

p o r t i o n 824 91 3015 311

p o s s i b l y

4223

post 4711

posted 3618

p osts 23818

p o t e n t i a l 32 25

p o t e n t i a l l y 1522 1810 209

pour 412 4

Power 402

p r a c t i c a l 2919

prepared 272

p r e s e n t a t i o n 620

1112 1520

p r e s e n t a t i o ns 62

1021

p r e t t y 85 1211

primary 623 4016

p r i o r 3724

p r i v a t e l y 610 112 4419

problem 722 1513

2716 2918 4222 461012

process 1212 1325 1521 1716 20824 32 2224 33 13 3612 4110 4317 4615 4910

p r o d u ctive 10 2

program 1120 3510

p r o j e c t 1123 122

p r o j e c t e d 1115

p r o p e r l y 2111 2517 341620

p r o p e r t i e s 22 18

p r operty 2219 28312 293 309 3714 421314 17 4325 441

proposing 406

p r o t e c t 2016 31 15 42 10 4 3 3 4

p r o t e c t i n g 2111

P r o t e c t i o n 6 17

p rovide 281 321125 33 4 4015

p rovided 83

p r o v i d i n g 33 25

p r o v i s i o n s 4124

P r u i t t 30718 3121 3218 33 15

p u b l i c 72 88911 914 122425 3023 312917 321 359 361014 1519 3912 4713

p u b l i c l y 623 3212 3625

p u l l 1312

p u l l e d 166

purchased 371422

purpose 623 321

purposes 816 50i

pursuant 94

put 72 18 15 3 6 2 2 3 9 1 0 4 9 2 2

p u z z l e d 381623

q u e s t i o n 2416 251418 26111 27 1 2825 30819 32918 348 3916 401 4422 4710

q u estions 1012 1724 24214 255 27( 3014 3111 364 4923 506

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index quickRobinson

quick 3121 3918

q u i c k l y 61 1818 3924 4420

radon 2916

r a p i d l y 1211

Rashid 4421 452620

RCRA 712 1019 509

r e - e x p l a i n 1015

reach 1516

reaching 1522

read 245 2815 3022

r e a l 296

r e a l i t y 4216

reason 2614 4021 4220 462425 471

reasonable 1017

29 14 reasons 319 4213

r e c e i v e Region 812 1121 22 10 R e g i s t r y

r e c e i v e d 4623 24910

r e l a t e d 371

145 469 recommend r e l e a s e d

38910 14 10 r e c o rd 3724

301224 r e l e v a n t

31218 106

32115 17 359 r e l i a b l e

15 3611 4411 14 392 r e l i e f 712 922 431516

r e l y 3222 4410 331 4713

remain r e c o r d i n g 201 3514

remedial r ecords 1123 32 1

3718 remember 491 2512

Recovery reminded 713 236

reduce remove 29 20 1916

r e f e r 129 removed 211 r eferenced

77 removing 2024 r e f e r r a l

1215 render 204 r e f e r r e d

1621 r ent 43 1816

r e n t i n g regard 43 22

922

r e p o r t e r 2816 3015 3513 4917

r e p o r t s 1618

r e p o s i t o r i e s 362223

r e p o s i t o r y 3624 bull 374

r epresentat i v e s 4912

r e q u e sting 496

r e q u i r e 4818

r e q u i r e d 1319 282 3158 427

requirement 311519

requirement S 99

1010

r e q u i r e s 163

r e s i d e d 43 7

residence 4220

r esidences 1418

r e s i d e n t 355

r e s i d e n t s 2016

2112 32 7 3521

r e s o l u t i o n s 716

Resource 712

resources 333

Response 711

r e s u l t s 225 483

r e vealed 3116

review 172 1968

r eviewing 16 17

r i g s 2214

r i s k 1218 1789 1322 183 1924 20 17 2520 3422 4618 487

r i s k s 22 6 9

r i v e r 26522

road 1912 4724

Robinson 27924 2820

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index websiteZychinski

website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index rolestage

r o l e 74

Ron 385

roof 3424 351

room 111416

r o ot 472

run 2320 415

running 2116 346

runs 89

safe 1517 2021

s a f e t y 504

sake 2425 3915

s a l e a b i l i t y 4214

sample 2110

sampled 1823 2119 227

samples 181120 208 2122 22 8 2619

sampling 195 209 211825 2216

3813 4619 484

scare 292425

scares 304

schedule 12 23

s c i e n t i s t s 197

seasons 2120

s e c t i o n 825 139

seek 249

s e l l 271718 2926

send 3516

sense 376 43 5

s e n s i t i v e 313

September 83 101 12920

serve 33 11

s e s s i o n 4510 4715

s essions 357 459

s e t t i n g 3117

settlement 61821 1022

s ettlements 819

s hallow 1411 4113

Shawn 77

2224

sheet 244

sheets 1422

short 71823 2425 444

short-term 201520

show 451214

showing 2525

shut 3016 498

s i d e 1114 1720 463

s i g h t 2 63

s i g n 88 91416 1117

s i g nature

914

signed 86

s i g n i n g

1213

s i gns 87

s i m i l a r 22 11

s i t e 822 92 1124

12710 131417 20 1438 166 1816 20214 2711 37316 23 3814 22

s i t u a t i o n 3213 33 24

s l a b 1717

s l i d e

2225

slow 4110

s l o w l y

4118

soda 156

s o i l

181120 19119 208 22216 19 4020 4116 4513

s o i l s 4117

s o l i d 4120

s o l v ent 1445 1315 153821

s o l v e n t s 14710 1918

someones 1514

s o r t 3225 4610

source 191417 222425 201325 211 3225 445

southeast 1417

space 1515

speak 11812 23 21 378

SPEAKER 4123 47 16

speaking 243 507

s p e c i f i c 289

s p e c i f i c a l l

y 496

speed 104

s p i l l e d 144 371920

s p l i t t i n g 121

spoke 1111 2824

St 2715

s tab le 4114

stage 33 14

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index standthings

stand 411

standard 821 1713 4825

Standpoint 29 19

S t a r t 1014 1813 224 2423 3922

s t a r t s 141415

s t a t e 3210 471

s t a t e d 4313 45 21

statement 3919 452022 4723

statements 2324 2418

s t a t e s 407 4813

s t a t u t e 79

s t a t u t o r y 78 920 3119

Stay 422 461

s t a y i n g 505

step-out 2125

Stephanie 4919

steps 13 19 4518

Stewart 3712 381

Stigma 4223

stop 438 9 4519

stopped 417

Stops 2622 4414

s t o r e 478

s t o r y 13 23

s t r a i g h t e n e d 4310

Strong 3921

s t u d i e s 476

study 33 18

s t u f f 136 261617 3410 441

subj ect 196

submit 3613

submitted

3216 369

Substances 4622

subsurface 4111

sucked 17 19

sucking 1716

suggest

3525

s u i t 387

superfund

7 10 1120 303 381422

supplementa 1 1812

supposed 348

system 3422 431215 25 4611 48118

systems 1216 171325 2019 21823 22 11 341517 24 429 12 449

t a b l e 3311

t a b l e t o p 4110

takes 4111

t a k i n g 198 2918

t a l k 6 9 1019 23 13 255 27 3017 32 13 45824

t a l k e d 7 22

t a l k i n g 39 43 2425 46

t a sk 176 2615

t a s k s 1310 162122 182 2013 4011

TCE 1218 145 2518 492

t e c h n i c a l 818 136 308 3221 3356 501

technology 16 13 443

t e l l i n g 126 455 4611 4717

t e n 1711 2119 44 22

terms 425

t e s t 344 387

t e s t e d 17 1125 1848 3868 4422 4614 4725

t e s t i n g 2018 267 3815

t e s t s 457

t e t r a c h l o r o e thylene

146 154

Thanksgivin g 916

t h i n g 6 7 11 13 2 4 1 2 4 37 2 4 0 1 3 2 3 45 8 48 12 49 9

t h i n g s 1 2 2 4 21 3 23 10 32 23 37 4 41 25

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447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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MEETING October 25 2012 EPA PUBLIC AVAILABILITY MEETING Index thinksweather

447 4712

t h i n k s 817

thought 4816

t i c k i n g 37 7

t i g h t 4117

time 725 1823 2021 212 23 1120 2425 2613 3211 373 49 7

times 3915

times 231 37 20 469 47 10 481

t i t l e 139

today 49 22

t o l d 236 293

Tom 4924

tomatoes 47 3

t o n i g h t 612 75 816 101519 23510 20 246

14 359 367 3925 459 4714 4913

top 412 47 451 46 2 47 24

Toxic 4622

t o x i c o l o g i s t 4625

471

t o x i c o l o g i s t s 1518

197 272

t o x i c o l o g y 4525 bull

t r a c k 431516 4410

t r a i n e d 346

t r a v e l

419

t r e a t 204

t r e a t e d 43 21

t r i c h l o r o e t hylene

12 17 145 154

t r u c k s 2214

t r u e 294 4522

t u r n 2223

t urns

3122

two-andshyt h ree 255

two-week 85

type 1613 1810 381321 4315

types 819 169

t y p i c a l 819

T y p i c a l l y 3013

U

US-based 4919

u l t i m a t e 1924

unacceptabl e 2017

22 9

underneath 142316

understand 1313 1611 3034 33 510 34419 3520 411

understandi ng 3522

u n i t 291522 302

3112

u n i t s 2916

uptaken 4735

upward 151112

V a l e r i e 3925 432425

v alues 43 5

vapor 1215 143 1520 164 1713 2019 21713 23 25 2210 291617 3423 401524 42919 4325 448 4818

vapors 1218 178 211721 3423

v a r i e t y 149 47 13

vegetables 4727

vendor

3810

VI 3112

V i o l e t 343

v i s i t 4419

VOCS 472

v o i c e 331

W

w a i ted 381

w a i t i n g 44 17

walked 1015

w a l l 3617

wanted 1015 23 21 2825

wards 3020

Wasco 491819

water 142023 2425 1559 161 2510 41234 59 464

ways 3 66 12

weather 2114

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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website 622 3618 371

week 219

weeks 103 13 5

w e l l -d e f i n e d

4114

w e l l -d e l i n e a t e d

284

well-worded 245

w e l l s 182122 209 2110 2215

Werremeyer 2519

West 3925 41124

w i f e 385

W i l l i a m 4421

windows 2115

Wishart

2824

woman 455

wondering 465

work 825 91910 1123 10 810 11 5 13 8916

1629 151819 25 171 35 181 131517 191113 20211 12 2218 3821 404810 431213

worked 617 76 84 101 166 4316

working 128 383 4414 4925

wrapped 4418

w r i t e 1624 396915

wrong 33 22

year 129

years 65 128 166 2120 251115 3721 409 4111 43 7 4725 4921

y e l l o w 3819

YOUNG 1113 13 3 2316 333 368 3914

Zychinski 4924

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