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Rev. Anne Presuel: Hi everyone. This is Reverend Anne Presuel. And this is the

Tap into Your Divine Business call #3. I’m so excited because I’m really loving

these calls. I think you guys are, too. We’ve had a really big response from

everyone, as well.

I heard some people asking questions. I’m going to go ahead and ask and find out

what your questions are, see if I can answer them. And then we’ll start. And, by

the way, if you have signed a release to be on the call with me live and you want to

be coached live on this call, please raise your hand, *2 will raise your hand. And

I’m going to put everybody on lecture in a few moments. But I want to find out

first before we get started … find out from you guys, if you have any questions,

specifically, that I can answer real quick. We’re not on mute yet or you’re not on

lecture mode or whatever, so if have a question, go ahead and speak it up.

Woman 1: How do we get caught up for those who are coming in for the first

time today?


Rev. Anne Presuel: Let me just tell you, welcome, first of all. And if you have

received an email for this call then you will have the links for the other calls. You

should have the links for all of them. Also, if you’re in Facebook, if you’re not in

Facebook and you want to be part of the Facebook community, which is a fabulous

community, everybody is really great in there, just click on the link in the email I

sent you out today or in any of the other emails. I think that email, the original one

welcoming you, will have the invitation. If it does not, then go into Facebook, Tap

Into Your Divine Business - put that into the search engine and it will take you to

our page; it’s a private group, it’s a closed group. Ask to join and Luisa or I will

accept your invitation or your request to join the group. And in the Facebook

group, you also have the links for the other calls.

So, you should have them in several different places. One, in your welcome email.

I did not put it in the email that went out today for the first two calls, we do have it

for next week, but I will send them out definitely if you don’t have it in your email.

Please hit reply and just send in an email to [email protected],

and Luisa or I will get you taken care of right away. Also, find in the Facebook

group, they’re listed in there as well, okay? Does that help?

Woman : Yes. I found the link for Facebook at the very bottom of the email on


the right.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, perfect. I think, that’s different. I think that’s the

invitation on Facebook.

Woman: So there’s no link on today’s.

Rev. Anne Presuel: If you’re on Facebook, just type into the search engine box,

type in Tap into Your Divine Business and it will take you to the Facebook

group, okay?

Woman: Okay.

Rev. Anne Presuel: The email that I sent out today as a reminder, that also has

the Facebook link in there.

Woman #2: Anne, I have a quick question. I came in on last week’s call late. I

was wondering if today you are going to re-go over which points you tap.

Rev. Anne Presuel: No. But I’ll tell you where you can find that. If you go to


my website, DivinelyIntuitiveBusiness.com.

Woman #2: DivinelyIntuitiveBusiness?

Rev. Anne Presuel: On the homepage, you have to skip the front page - if you

scroll down that will say, “Go into the main site.” You can click on that. On the

main site, the homepage, if you click on Home and the navigation bar, it will bring

down a menu. And on that menu, it gives you the option, it will say Freebies.

And on the Freebies, that’s where the points are.

Woman #2: The freebies.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Yeah. That was a long-winded explanation but on

DivinelyIntuitiveBusiness.com, that’s on the Freebies under the Home page, the

tapping points are shown there.

Woman #2: Okay, thank you.

Rev. Anne Presuel: You’re welcome. I’m one of the tappers who doesn’t go over

the points and tell you what all the points are.


It’s funny, because Gary Craig himself, who was the creator of EFT said that

“Really, it’s your intention … energy follows spot.” This is interesting. He was

tapping with some woman sometime and when he said to tap on the collarbone, she

was tapping on the back of her neck. (Laughs) And he was like “She was getting

these all kinds of results.” That was funny.

The points are there - it is not hugely important that you’re on the exact point.

Woman #2: Okay, because it sounded to me like you were using different points

than what I have eventually been trained on.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I use the wrist point and I use at the top of the head.

Although I think a lot of people use the top of the head now.

Woman #2: That’s true. Okay. Alright, thanks.

Woman #3: I did a search on Facebook for Tap into Your Divine Business, is

that the correct search?

Rev. Anne Presuel: That would be it.


Woman #3: And it comes up hypnothought, that’s not you.

Rev. Anne Presuel: It could not be coming up hypnothught. (Laughs)

Woman #3: Self-growth is not you. LinkedIn.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Tap into Your Divine Business. I’m not going to spend any

more time on this. Look at your email that you got in the email inbox today and if

you have an issue, email [email protected] or

[email protected]. She’ll take care of you, alright?

But right now, we want to get to the calls. So, I’m going to put everybody on mute

except people who have their hands up. And those of you who have signed

releases, those are the ones who can talk.

I want to make sure you can still hear me. Sometimes when I put it on lecture,

suddenly you can’t hear me. Julie Ramige, you’re on the call. Can you just raise

your hand, *2 and tell me if you can hear me. I don’t want to be on mute. She

went away.

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Alright, let me just ask Yvonne. How about you? Would you push star two, let

me know that you can hear me. Now I’m worried, nobody can hear me.

Thank you, I appreciate that. Okay.

The last four digits are 4348 in Denver, Colorado. I’m going to unmute you and

let’s get going. Hi.

Kristine: Hi.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Hi! What’s your name?

Kristine: Kristine.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Kristine! Hi. Have you signed a release?

Kristine: I’m not sure if I have or not.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because I think Luisa sent me an email saying that you were

one who didn’t. Because you talked on the first call, right?


Kristine: I did. I had written in a question before the call. Maybe I need to wait

until next week?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Here’s the question I have for you. Do I have your word that

you’ve got permission, we’ve got permission to record you?

Kristine: Absolutely.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And you will sign the release? Everybody’s witness.

Alright, very good. So, good because I do have you on the call and it’s funny

because Luisa sent me an email saying “We don’t have one from Kristine.” Tell

me what the issue is that you want to work on today?

Kristine: Yeah, I was thinking about it because there’s a million different aspects

of things. But I think the issue for me is trusting that I’m good enough?

Rev. Anne Presuel: I love this one. This is great. Good. Tell me why you think

you may not be good enough.


Kristine: May not be. I’ve had a healing business for many, I would say the last

really like six to seven years, been not working on it full force but I have a website

up. And I have been doing different kinds of work. I swear I must have seen

hundreds of people, maybe, at least over a hundred. And I have a dribble business,

like I have maybe two or three people a week. But I just feel like after having seen

so many people in my mind, if they have referred one person even through the

years, I’d have this rocking business. And when I see that, I just feel like even if

there’s a part of me that thinks my work’s amazing, I think well maybe I’m wrong

because people haven’t come back.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, I love that. And let me guess, your people think

you’re amazing too. Is that right? They probably tell you, right?

Kristine: The people that come, yes. The people did, my little group, yes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I love this I want to give a little bit of mindset and we’re

going to do some tapping but I want to sort of left-brain stuff for all of you who

have this conversation. And we did some tapping last week, by the way, on some

of this around validation from our clients. Most of us, if we are waiting for our

clients to give us much validation, we’re going to be waiting a long time. The


issue probably is more about your marketing and your sales and your message than

it is about your work. Your work is probably very, very good. Most healers have

issues with their marketing and their message and also their sales process.

So, my guess is it’s around that. But let’s take care of the glitch in the throat,

“Uh” kind of feeling that you probably get when you think about stepping on to a

bigger stage and really owning who you are, right?

Okay. Let me just ask you this question. “Trusting that I’m good enough, it must

be that I’m not because look I have a dribble business.” What‘s the belief behind

that? “If I really were good enough then I would have …” what, a waiting list of

clients?

Kristine: Yes. And as you’re saying that, it’s like jumping to another part, a piece

that I didn’t think, I mean I kind of knew was there, is I’m afraid to be

overwhelmed.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Love that. So, “I really don’t want to waiting list of clients

because (laughs) but I really want one. But wait a minute I really don’t.”


Kristine: Exactly.

Rev. Anne Presuel: So, how can you even grow if I’ve got both of this going on,

right? That’s great. That’s really great. And my guess is you speak for everybody

here. Let me ask you this question then because I really want to get to the bottom

of what you really truely want. What do you want?

Kristine: I want to help a lot of people. I really feel like in my heart, I really want

to bring my gift out into the world to help people.

Rev. Anne Presuel: What is a lot of people? How many is that?

Kristine: If I really let myself go crazy, the part that isn’t afraid, I would be

teaching to like a lot, like hundreds of people. Or maybe even online, I’m not sure

if I’m comfortable with the computer thing yet. Reaching more than hundreds of

people but I really want to kind of like see my message out there in the big world.

So that kind of feels like thousands, doesn’t it?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Or hundreds of thousands.


Kristine: Yeah. That brings up something exciting.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Yeah, right. And what does it bring up? That’s really good.

Kristine: Yeah, on my chest, I’m feeling like “Whew, I just want to run and

hide.”

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because?

Kristine: Something about being seen.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay. Because if I’m seen and there’s a lot of…I’m asking a

lot of questions but I want to get to the bottom. If I’m seen, then what happens?

What’s the scary thing that happens?

Kristine: I guess people, there’s a couple of things: first, it just doesn’t feel safe

and you’re asking why. What’s coming up is that people will see I’m not perfect

which sounds really not logical but I still see my thorns and my fears like people

will see that I’m not always confident.


Rev. Anne Presuel: And if they see that I’m not always confident and they see

that I’m not perfect, what happens?

Kristine: I think they’ll think I just look stupid like “What’s she doing?” “She

said she had all these things to give and she looks like a fool.”

Rev. Anne Presuel: “She looks like a fool.”

Kristine: Yeah.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Wonderful! This is really great.

Kristine: Wonderful on your end. I know what you mean.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Alright, okay. So everybody go to your sore spot or your

karate chop whichever one you prefer and let’s all do the rubbing or tapping.

“Even though…”

Kristine: Even though,


Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m afraid.

Kristine: I’m afraid.

Rev. Anne Presuel: to step onto a bigger stage,

Kristine: to step onto a bigger stage,

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I want to.

Kristine: And I really want to.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m being called.

Kristine: I am being called.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m really scared.

Kristine: I’m really scared.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Because then they’ll really know.

Kristine: And because then they’ll really know.

Rev. Anne Presuel: They’ll see all of my foibles.

Kristine: They’ll see all of my foibles.

Rev. Anne Presuel: They’ll see that I’m not perfect.

Kristine: They’ll see that I’m not perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I don’t have all the answers.

Kristine: And I don’t have all the answers.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I have a lot of answers.

Kristine: I have a lot of answers.


Rev. Anne Presuel: But I have all the answers.

Kristine: But I don’t have all the answers.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Somehow I think I should.

Kristine: Somehow I think I should.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Only people who are on the bigger stages…

Kristine: Only people who are on the bigger stages…

Rev. Anne Presuel: have all the answers.

Kristine: have all the answers.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And the only way I can be on that stage,

Kristine: And the only I can be on that stage,


Rev. Anne Presuel: is if I have all the answers too.

Kristine: is that I have all the answers too.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Even though it’s not logical,

Kristine: Even though it’s not logical,

Rev. Anne Presuel: It doesn’t matter.

Kirstine: It doesn’t matter.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I have to have all the answers.

Kristine: I have to have all the answers.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I have to be perfect.

Kristine: I have to be perfect.


Rev. Anne Presuel: And look good.

Kristine: And look good.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because only then can I be safe.

Kristine: Because only then can I be safe.

Rev. Anne Presuel: No criticism.

Kristine: No criticism.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Just admiration. (Laughs)

Kristitne: Just admiration. (Laughs)

Rev. Anne Presuel: Start tapping at the top of your head. I’ll go through all the

points just one time guys, okay?

Top of the head: I’m really afraid.


Kristine: I’m really afraid.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Between the eyes: What if I’m wrong?

Kristine: What if I’m wrong?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Side of the eyes: What if I look stupid?

Kristine: What if I look stupid?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Under the eyes: What if I look like a fool?

Kristine: What if I look like a fool?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Then, they’ll know I’m not perfect, under the nose.

Kristine: Then they’ll know I’m not perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Chin: I can’t have that.


Kristine: I can’t have that.

Rev. Anne Presuel: It’s hard enough for me to know, collarbone.

Kristine: It’s hard enough for me to know.

Rev. Anne Presuel: That I’m not perfect.

Kristine: That I’m not perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Under the arm: I can’t have everybody knowing I’m not

perfect. (Laughs)

Kristine: I can’t have everybody know that I’m not perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Although all the people on this call now know.

Kristine: Although all the people, yes (laughs) on this call now know.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Under the arms: And they know my name is Kristine.


Kristine: And they know my name is Kristine.

Rev. Anne Presuel: That I’m from Colorado.

Kristine: That I’m from Colorado.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And my last digits are whatever they are.

Kristine: My last four digits are those numbers.

Rev. Anne Presuel: They know I’m not perfect.

Kristine: And they know I’m not perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: But they’re safe. These are all healers.

Kristine: But they’re safe. These are all healers.

Rev. Anne Presuel: The wrist: They all know that I’m not perfect.


Kristine: They all know I’m not perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Karate Chop: Because they’re not perfect.

Kristine: Because they’re not perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: But wait a minute, we’re all perfect.

Kristine: But wait a minute, we’re all perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: But I’m not talking about that kind of perfect.

Kristine: But I’m not talking about that kind of perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because I know I’m perfect in that way.

Kristine: Because I know I’m perfect in that way.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Top of the head: I just don’t have all the answers.


Kristine: I just don’t have all the answers.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And so therefore, I’m not perfect.

Kristine: And so therefore, I’m not perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Between the eyes: So wait a minute. I’m perfect in my soul’s

eyes.

Kristine: So wait a minute. I’m perfect in my soul’s eyes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m perfect in God’s eyes.

Kristine: I’m perfect in God’s eyes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Side of the eyes: But I’m not perfect in my ego’s eyes.

Kristine: But I’m not perfect in my ego’s eyes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m never going to be perfect in my ego’s eyes.


Kristine: I am never going to be perfect in my ego’s eyes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I’m never going to be perfect in other people’s ego’s

eyes.

Kristine: And I’m never going to be perfect in other people’s ego’s eyes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: So which eyes am I looking at myself from? Under the eyes.

Kristine: So which eyes am I looking at myself from?

Rev. Anne Presuel: My own ego?

Kristine: My own ego?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Or through the eyes of the Divine?

Kristine: Or through the eyes of the Divine?


Rev. Anne Presuel: Under the nose: You get to answer that question, by the way,

Kristine.

Kristine: Through the eyes of the Divine, thank you. (Laughs)

Rev. Anne Presuel: Ah, see.

Kristine: Yeah.

Rev. Anne Presuel: The chin: I think that I will look at myself through the eyes of

the Divine.

Kristine: I think that I will look at myself through the eyes of the Divine.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because then I know I am perfect.

Kristine: Because then I know I am perfect.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Collarbone: Then I know I’m safe.


Kristine: Then I know I am safe.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Then I know I don’t need to hide. Under the arm.

Kristine: Then I know I don’t need to hide.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Wrist: Then I know there’s nothing wrong.

Kristine: Then I know there’s nothing wrong.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I choose to look at myself through the eyes of the Divine.

Kristine: I choose to look at myself through the eyes of the Divine.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Let me ask you a question, Kristine. What would show you

that you are good enough? What would you need to do yourself to show you that

you’re good enough?


Kristine: What would I need to do? Well, the only thing I can think of that helps

me, it’s not the only thing but it’s very powerful thing is just to sit in meditation

and really just sit in that energy of all the gifts I have.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay.

Kristine: And just really tune to that. That’s the kind of thing I do when I want to

feel like I am good enough.

Rev. Anne Presuel: What do you need to do to prove to yourself that you are

good enough?

Kristine: Oh I suppose, just kind of the automatic answers have a full practice of

people coming to me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay. And what do you need to do in order to have full

practice?

Kristine: I guess learn some business skills.


Rev. Anne Presuel: That would be a good idea.

Kristine: Yeah. I mean that’s really clear on the one hand but on the emotional

level, what would I need to do to have, it’s like I feel like I’m giving everything

like I have. I’m doing the best I can so to do more just feels like “How could I do

more?”

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, perfect. This is brilliant. You just brought up a really

important piece. Let me ask you this question. When you want to run a marathon,

and this will be for anybody, let’s just running a marathon for example. If you

wanted to run a marathon, what would you need to do?

Kristine: Probably start training.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And in order to start training what kinds of things would you

need to do?

Kristine: Get some good shoes. Maybe get a trainer. Run a little bit every day, a

little bit more every day.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Anything else?

Kristine: I guess I could look at my diet.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Anything else?

Kristine: Set some goals for myself.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Work on the way you think about it.

Kristine: Oh yeah, that would be, yes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: If you were to set up and say, “Okay, right here, right now

I’m going to run a marathon.” Then go try to run a marathon tomorrow.

Kristine: Yeah, that wouldn’t work .

Rev. Anne Presuel: It wouldn’t work. So when you go from “I have a dribble

business, too. I have a full practice. I need to learn some business skills,” it’s


kind of like saying “Okay, I’m going to run a marathon tomorrow.” And the

instant sense of overwhelm “I have to do more” sets in when really it’s more

about working smarter not harder or working more effectively rather than working

than doing more.

It’s not about doing more, it’s about gaining the skills or gaining the strength or

gaining the muscles to go and do that to build a full practice to get your message so

that it is something you’re speaking in a way that others can hear. Your marketing

is more effective. I can remember when I first was doing some marketing when

we first moved to Florida from Virginia and I was like “What is wrong with South

Florida?”

My first business coach said to me, “It’s probably not the people itself. It’s

probably your message.” I was like, “Really?” “No, it’s them.” because the way

I was marketing it wasn’t working, because what I was saying, and a lot of healers

in my opinion have what I call healer language that the rest of the world doesn’t

speak. And so we’re trying to have them understand what it is we’re offering. But

we’re speaking in a language they can’t hear.

Kristine: Yeah, that makes sense.


Rev. Anne Presuel: So, instead of it being overwhelming and hard, it really is just

about tweaking what you’re already doing that’s really right and organizing it.

Does that make sense?

Kristine: Yeah, it does. And as you were talking, too, there’s the building the

muscle part of having the business grow at a pace that I can get used to?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Exactly.

Kristine: Instead of, if I had like twenty-five or forty clients next week, I’d want

to go on vacation immediately. (Laughs)

Rev. Anne Presuel: Yes. Growing faster, that’s what growing pains are all about,

exactly. So, that was really good. Thank you, Kristine. How are you feeling, by

the way about trusting that you’re good enough?

Kristine: It feels very different. And that’s amazing to me after just a little bit of

time. It feels like more grounded like I feel more grounded. And I can do this.

This is real. This could be real.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Nice.

Kristine: Thank you so much.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Yeah. You’re very welcome. Very good. Thank you,

Kristine.

Kristine: Thanks.

Rev. Anne Presuel: You’re welcome.

So we have Bakersfield, California. Last four digits are 0240. I’m going to un-

mute you. Hi! Who is this? Hello? Bakersfield, California. 0240, last four

digits. You have your hand raised. If you think it’s you, say something. You must

have yourself on mute. Can you un-mute yourself? Alright, I’m putting you back

on mute.

We have Terrace, Ohio. Last four digits are 5498. If you think that’s you, can you

speak up?


Karen: Hi Anne, it’s Karen.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Hi Karen! How are you?

Karen: How are you? I’m good.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m fabulous. How are you?

Karen: I’m okay. And I actually raised my hand like at the very beginning of the

call when you were trying to figure out if someone could hear you. But… I could

definitely ask a question that’s not a problem. (Laughs.)

Rev. Anne Presuel: We all want to hear how everything’s going with you since

two weeks ago when we tapped.

Karen: Right. Well, I definitely feel a shift. I do feel like things are moving. I’m

starting to feel a little bit more confident about really stepping out there as a

copywriter and taking some specific action steps. But I get like and especially

today, I’ve been feeling discourage and I don’t feel creative and I’m going back

into that old cycle level “Maybe I shouldn’t do this. This is too hard.”


Rev. Anne Presuel: Which one is it? Let me just say this. A couple of weeks

ago, we tapped on “I can’t do this. It’s not realistic for me to be an entrepreneur.

This is just wishful thinking.”

Yes, I take notes, guys. My eidetic memory, but it’s not. But here is the thing

what I’m hearing from you now is that’s a little bit different. It’s … I’m hearing

“This is too hard.” not “I can’t do it.” which are two very different things.

Karen: Yes. It’s more “This is too hard” because now I’m starting to think

“Okay, what should I be doing next? What should I do next?” And then I get into

this place where I can’t think of anything. And then I get frustrated at myself for

not doing anything and so that kind of thought that “This is too hard” is coming

from.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I love it. This is so good. Now everybody here on the call or

listening, you have to know that what she’s got facing her now is very different

from what she was feeling with two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, it was like “This

is hopeless,” “I shouldn’t be doing this,” “I can’t do this,” “My family says I’m

kidding myself,” da da da da…


Now, she’s beyond that. Now, she’s in the phase of what she’s doing and she’s

like “Oh, wait a minute. This is crazy. What am I doing? This is too hard.”

It’s a very different trigger. I want you really to know this especially healer types,

but frankly everybody, all spiritual entrepreneurs, when you are working through

your triggers, your beliefs, it may feel as though they are the same. They are not.

When you have resolved one, guess what, another one shows up. And part of the

process is, in my experience, it is just about working through the pieces that are

showing up, pieces that are showing up, pieces that are showing up, different

aspects, different beliefs. And as you work through them, you put one to bed, but

another one will show up. And at some point, you don’t have them all showing up

anymore like you did.

So, I just want to say that so that we can, you guys, can really understand. There is

a tipping point. I promise you there’s a tipping point. And those of you who’ve

done this work for a while, you know that already because you’ve experienced that

yourself. You’ve already gone through. And but especially when you’re newer at

being an entrepreneur, there’s a little bit more that you have to go through.

I did this myself when I first, with building my business, and thank goodness I

knew the tapping because I would recognize when I got triggered, I would do the


tapping, I’d just go “Alright, I’m just going to be with this feeling. And I’m going

to move through it.”

So, what I’m sharing with you is this is different that she’s dealing with, which is

really, really great. And so, guess what, here’s another one. Yay! Hot diggity dog,

let’s move through it. Because you don’t need to be owned by that one either,

okay?

Alright, so thank you, thank you, thank you very much for that, Karen.

Tell me what the biggest piece is “It’s too hard.” Is that the piece that when you

think about it, it’s like “Ugh, it looks…” Okay.

“It’s too hard because…”

Karen: Because I don’t know what to do.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, that’s expected. (Laughs) Alright, go to your sore

spot or karate chop or whatever you guys like.


So, even though this is too hard.

Karen: Even though this is too hard.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I really just don’t know what to do.

Karen: I really just don’t know what to do.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I can’t think of anything.

Karen: I can’t think of anything.

Rev. Anne Presuel: But I should.

Karen: But I should.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I should know exactly what to do.

Karen: I should know exactly what to do.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Just like my daughter.

I’m going to take a little bit of liberty because I know Karen.

Just like my daughter.

Karen: Just like my daughter.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Know Algebra. (Laughs)

Karen: Know Algebra.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Doggone it, she should know Algebra.

Karen: Doggone it, she should just know Algebra.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I know she’s only five.

Karen: Last week, she just turned six. I know she’s only six.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Even though she’s only six, she should know Algebra.

Karen: She should know Algebra.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I should know what to do next.

Karen: And I should know what to do next.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because I just should.

Karen: Because I just should.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I just want to take a moment. I know we haven’t even tapped

yet. But I just want to take a moment and ask you did “This is too hard,” shift at

all just now, even though we haven’t even tapped, just rubbing your sore spot.

Karen: Yeah. It did.

Rev. Anne Presuel: It did, right. Because you got a clue, right? You really got

this shift in your perception of what quote unquote should be, right?


Karen: Definitely. Then also even before when you were just talking about how

it’s normal and how this is different from before because I was just thinking “Well,

I’m still struggling with this.” and not really realizing that it’s something else

because I move forward.

Rev. Anne Presuel: There’s a really interesting piece here for all of us to learn.

Let me ask you this. Have you ever seen a golf ball that had the cover stripped off

and so it looks like this mess of rubber band, like it’s just this ongoing rubber band

entanglement? Have you ever seen that?

Karen: I’ve never seen that. No.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Some f you have, I’m sure. And how about a ball of string,

have you ever seen just a big ball of string that it’s just like a mess of string?

Karen: Yes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay. It’s kind of like that. What we’re doing is we are

untangling and/or unrolling, unraveling, if you will, the pieces or the beliefs that


make up being a spiritual entrepreneur. The negative beliefs is what I mean. And

so as we unravel some of it, there’s others that are in there. And sometimes it’s a

mess like it’s knotted up. And so you have to loosen it and untangle it in order to

find out what each piece really is, and how it’s connected, etc.

Actually, a better visual for anybody who has yarn and you’ve gone to unravel a

yarn and it gets all tangled up and you have to untangle it. That’s kind of a better

visual than a golf ball or a roll of string.

And the untangling process, if you just think of each one as a belief that is all

enmeshed in there but you have to loosen it first and then pull it a little bit. And

then“Oh no, that didn’t work because that’s tightened up over here” kind of thing.

That kind of what we were doing here is we’re untangling the beliefs that make up

building spiritual entrepreneur business.

So, each one has its own connecting part with others. And it may look like when

you untangle one or you unravel one, if you’ve got the raveling of something else

hooked in, then it’s like “Well, that didn’t work.” It’s not that that didn’t work,

it’s that it’s connected in with something else. And that something else is also

pretty powerful and pretty strong. So, it’s about making the distinctions and


unraveling that piece as well. So, that’s where tapping is so brilliant because as

you unravel one and you get present to another, “Oh, there’s another one. Hello!”

you get to untangle that one as well.

So, it’s a process. And it can take time to unravel and that’s okay because like

what else are you doing, except living your life, right?

And that would be the same, by the way, everybody. If you want to go create your

ideal partner or if want to create a bunch of money or if you want to create your

perfect job or whatever it is, your perfect body, whatever. You still have to

unravel all the beliefs that come up when you’re going to go create that.

So, spiritual entrepreneurship really what we’re doing is just unraveling beliefs that

are in the way of us taking actions. When Kristine was talking about trusting that

she’s good enough, she has a different perception now, and she’s going to be able

to take different action.

Same with you, Karen, the things that you did a couple of weeks ago and how

you’ve grown since then in the actions that you’ve taken, now you’re starting to

see “Oh, I need to be doing something and I need to be doing something that I


don’t know what to do” now that presents a new problem, a new issue. So a new

belief get triggered up. “Oh, this is too hard because I don’t know what to do

because if I knew what to do then I go take the action.”

I’m babbling here but I did want to make that connection that sort of left-brain

understanding connection, because that’s really important when we’re

understanding how our minds and our beliefs show up in our work and how they

make a difference in what kind of actions we take.

So, let’s do a little tapping. I want to just hear from you “This is too hard.” Tell

me a little more about that. And by the way, is it still “This is too hard?”

Karen: Not as much as it was before. I guess now it’s just kind of like “Okay,

what to do? I don’t know what to do. I don’t know what to do.”

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, good. And that’s probably true, by the way. You

don’t know what to do, right? But there’s a part of you also that knows some of

what to do. Let me challenge you on this, real quick. Is it that truly that you don’t

know what to do? Or is it there’s something that you do know what to do but you

don’t want to do it?


Karen: Yes. (Laughs)

Rev. Anne Presuel: I thought so. And might that something be a sales call? I’m

just asking. I’m not saying there is because there are other people will answer will

be “Yes”. It doesn’t have to be you, too.

Karen: I do actually have one next week that I’m a little worried about.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Good, Okay. You want to do some tapping around that

because I have a feeling that there are people on the call who have sales calls either

this week that they may be a little worried about or may be even tonight.

Karen: Sure.

Rev. Anne Presuel: What are you worried about with the sales call by the way?

Karen: That I will appear incompetent.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Oh, that’s so good. So, go to your sore spot. I’m so afraid

I’m going to appear incompetent.


Karen: I’m so afraid I’m going to appear unconfident, incompetent I’m sorry.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Unconfident is also incompetent. (Laughs.)

Karen: Is that even a word? I don’t know if that’s even a word.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Copyrighter. (Laughs.) Unconfident or incompetent. When

I have the sales call, if it feels that way, what happens?

Karen: I’ll stumble over my words, I’ll forget important points.

Rev. Anne Presuel: If I stumble over my words and forget important points, what

happens?

Karen: Then I won’t make a good impression. And I won’t get the sale.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Good. And if I don’t make a good impression, what

happens?

Karen: Then I won’t get the sale?


Rev. Anne Presuel: And if I don’t get the sale, what happens?

Karen: Then I’ll be disappointed.

Rev. Anne Presuel: What will I believe about myself if I don’t get the sale?

Karen: Then I’ll really believe I’m not competent.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I f really believe I’m not competent, what does that

mean? What happens?

What does that mean about me if I don’t get the sale and I’m not competent?

Karen: The first thing that comes to mind is just that I’m a failure and that I don’t

have…

Rev. Anne Presuel: No, you were going to say it, “I don’t have…” what?

Karen: What it takes.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Yeah, I knew that was it. That’s really good. Now, that is

what we want to tap on. It’s not about the sales call. It is about what happens if

you end up looking like blank and have this result blank . This is the bad thing.

What’s going to happen? “I will believe I’m a failure.”

So, I’m really afraid of believing I’m a failure.

Karen: I’m really afraid of believing I’m a failure.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I don’t want to believe I don’t have what it takes.

Karen: I don’t want to believe that I don’t have what it takes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: But if I have a sales call,

Karen: If I have a sales call,

Rev. Anne Presuel: I end up looking like I’m not competent.

Karen: I may end up looking like I’m not competent.


Rev. Anne Presuel: And that must mean that I’m a failure.

Karen: And that must mean that I’m a failure.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Wait a minute.

Karen: Wait a minute.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I want you to start tapping. Wait a minute. Why does that

mean I’m a failure?

Karen: Why does that mean I’m a failure?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Brilliant. Because every single sales call that I have with

someone when they’re trying to sell me, I buy it.

Karen: Because every single sales call that someone has with me when I’m trying

to…I forgot.


Rev. Anne Presuel: When they want to sell me something,

Karen: When they want to sell me something,

Rev. Anne Presuel: I buy everything.

Karen: (Laughs) I buy everything.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And because I don’t want them to think they’re a failure,

Karen: Because I don’t want them to think that they’re a failure,

Rev. Anne Presuel: Even the telemarketers who call me on the phone,

Karen: Even the telemarketers who call me on the phone,

Rev. Anne Presuel: I but whatever they sell.

Karen: I buy whatever they sell.


Rev. Anne Presuel: That is so not true, isn’t it? (Laughs)

Karen: That is so not true.

Rev. Anne Presuel: So it must mean,

Karen: So it must mean,

Rev. Anne Presuel: If I’m having a sales call with someone,

Karen: If I’m having a sales call with someone,

Rev. Anne Presuel: And they say no,

Karen: And they say no,

Rev. Anne Presuel: It must mean something about me.

Karen: It must mean something about me.


Rev. Anne Presuel: It must mean that I’m a failure.

Karen: It must mean that I’m a failure.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Or I’m not competent.

Karen: Or I’m not competent.

Rev. Anne Presuel: It can’t mean…

Karen: It can’t mean…

Rev. Anne Presuel: That they just aren’t interested.

Karen: That they just aren’t interested.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Or maybe it’s not the right time.

Karen: Or maybe it’s not the right time.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Or maybe we’re not a good fit and I wouldn’t want them

anyway.

Karen: Or maybe we’re not a good fit and I wouldn’t want them anyway.

Rev. Anne Presuel: No, it has to mean that I’m a failure.

Karen: No, it has to mean that I’m a failure.

Rev. Anne Presuel: It has to mean that I’m not competent.

Karen: It has to mean that I’m not competent.

Rev. Anne Presuel: It has to mean that I shouldn’t be doing this work anyway.

Karen: It has to mean that I shouldn’t be doing this work anyway.

Rev. Anne Presuel: That’s the only thing it can mean.

Karen: That’s the only thing it can mean.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Alright, take a deep breath. Tell me now, when you think

about this sales call next week, what do you think? How does it feel?

Karen: I feel a lot more relaxed about it.

Rev. Anne Presuel: (Laughs.) Yes, that’s what I figured.

Karen: Yeah. What you were saying, it was like, “Okay, stop being ridiculous.”

(Laughs.)

Rev. Anne Presuel: Yes. And it’s funny because we all are ridiculous about this

stuff. We all have this trigger. We all have this “Oh my gosh, it must be that I’m

not good enough.” That’s my go-to feeling: not good enough. And some other

people, “It’s not deserving.” or “I have to be perfect.” or “I have to look…” “It

has to all be… exactly” whatever. So this is good.

Everybody here on the call has sales calls, every one of us. If you’re in business

you’ve got sales calls, guys, right? So it’s really allowing it to be a space of


service, a space of connection, a space of intimacy, a space of “How can I serve

you?” And “Are we a good fit?” A space of exploration.

So, “This is too hard.” How does that feel?

Karen: I feel a lot lighter now.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, good. You still don’t know how to do everything in

your business, okay. You still don’t know all the Algebra. But you’re learning it.

Hello?

Karen: Yeah, right. I’m sitting here like “Yeah, right. I’m learning. I’m

learning.”

Rev. Anne Presuel: Alright. I’m going to put you on mute and I’m going to

answer the next person. You’re good?

Karen: Thank you so much. Thank you.

Rev. Anne Presuel: You’re welcome. Thank you, Karen. Julie? Julie?


Julie: Yes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Are you there?

Julie: I’m here. You’re talking to me?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay good. Your hand is raised. Is your hand…because I

asked you earlier?

Julie: That’s probably it, yes.

Rev. Anne Presuel; Okay.

Julie: I’ll just *2 me again.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, bye. Melissa?

Melissa: I’m here.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Hi, how are you?


Melissa: I’m here.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Yes, you are. What’s going on?

Melissa: I don’t know. I have all this fear all of a sudden, I feel I’m going to be

sick.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Oh good, great! What’s going on? What is the fear about?

Melissa: I don’t know. I mean, about doing that workshop and really being able

to embody my passion like we had talked about yesterday. I’m more of a writer,

so when I write I get really into what I’m writing. I get really excited about it. I

get really impassioned but then when I go and stand up in front of people I want to

carry that passion and excitement to my talking about it. But I find that really

hard. I can’t imagine it happening or I never do enough preparation in order to get

to that place, too much stuff.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Good. How many other people on this call have an issue

with talking in front of people and carrying that passion and similar to what Karen


was just sharing with us about “It has to be perfect.” That wasn’t what you said,

by the way, but there’s an essence of it there. “I have to do it right.” Alright. So

this is good. This is really good.

From what I understand and I know, because I know you. I know what’s going on

for you but the other people who are listening don’t know. So, I’d like for you to

share. I know you have a workshop coming up, right? And there’s some fear that

you have about…. what’s the real fear here? Is it really that you’re afraid you’re

not going to “embody your passion” or what’s really going on there?

Melissa: Well, it’s really about getting people to say yes to what I’m offering.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, good. Getting them to say yes to, what did you say?

Melissa: To what I’m offering.

Rev. AnnePresuel: To what you’re offering, okay, I got so excited there for a

second. And I have to get them to say yes to what I’m offering because…? And

this is back to what Karen was tapping on. So that’s brilliant. I have to get them to

say yes because…


Melissa: I know what you’re saying. The first thing that comes to me is because

otherwise I’d be doing it for nothing. So what’s the point?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Right. Good. Otherwise I’m doing it for nothing. So what’s

the point? Tell me what it means about you if they don’t say yes?

Melissa: That I’m not convincing enough or I’m not communicating in a way that

I’m making a connection with them.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay. And if I’m not communicating in a way that makes a

connection with them, what does that mean about you?

Melissa: What does that mean about me?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Uh-hmm.

Melissa: That means I’m not doing it right. I’m missing a piece of the puzzle.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, and if I’m missing a piece of the puzzle, what does that

say about you?

Melisa: Then success is always going to be just that out of reach.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Oh, bingo! And is that the piece that’s heavy for you?

Melissa: Yeah.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay. Let me ask you this question. If success will always

be out of reach, what does that mean?

Melissa: That I don’t have a purpose.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I don’t have a purpose. Okay. This is really good. Okay,

good. Go to your sore spot or your karate chop, whichever you prefer. I really

want my people to say yes.

Melissa: I really want my people to say yes.


Rev. Anne Presuel: I don’t want to be doing this for nothing.

Melissa: I don’t want to be doing this for nothing.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Otherwise, what’s the point?

Melissa: Otherwise, what’s the point?

Rev. Anne Presuel: They really do need to say yes.

Melissa: They really do need to say yes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because, otherwise, I don’t have a purpose.

Melissa: Because otherwise, I don’t have a purpose.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And it’s going to mean a whole lot about me if they don’t say

yes. (Laughs.)

Melissa: It’s going to mean a whole lot about me if they don’t say yes.


Rev. Anne Presuel: So I really just need to say yes so I will feel better about me,

thank you.

Melissa: So I really just need to say yes so I will feel better about me, thank you.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Otherwise, it means I’m not convincing.

Melissa: Otherwise, it means I’m not convincing.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Start tapping. It means that I’m not communicating in a way

that makes them get it.

Melissa: It means that I’m not communicating in a way that makes them get it.

Rev. Anne Presuel: It means I’m not doing it right.

Melissa: It means that I’m not doing it right.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And it especially means that I don’t have a purpose.


Melissa: And it especially means that I don’t have a purpose.

Rev. Anne Presuel: So they better darn well say yes.

Melissa: So they better darn well say yes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: This stuff is hard sometimes.

Melissa: This stuff is hard sometimes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because I’m having to learn all these new skills.

Melissa: Because I’m having to learn all these new skills.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m having to learn how to embody my passion.

Melissa: I’m having to learn how to embody my passion.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Not just to write my passion.


Melissa: Not just to write my passion.

Rev. Anne Presuel: But now to speak my passion.

Melissa: But now to speak my passion.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And have it be in a way that they get it.

Melissa: And have it be in a way that they get it.

Rev. Anne Presuel: So like Karen’s daughter who really should know Algebra by

the time she’s six.

Melissa: So like Karen’s daughter who really should know Algebra by the time

she’s six.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I should know how to do this.

Melissa: I should know how to do this.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Because otherwise, it just has to mean that success is always

going to be out of reach.

Melissa: Because otherwise, it just has to mean that success is always going to be

out of reach.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I just don’t have a purpose.

Melissa: And I just don’t have a purpose.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m just a blob taking up space. (Laughs)

Melissa: I’m just a blob taking up space.

Rev. Anne Presuel: They better say yes otherwise that’s all that means that I’m a

blob taking up space.

Melissa: They better say yes because all that means that I’m just a blob taking up

space.


Rev. Anne Presuel: I better embody my passion.

Melissa: I better embody my passion.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And they better say yes.

Melissa: And they better say yes.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Alright, take a nice deep breath. Tell me if that shifted

anything because it’s just so amusing or if you still have the trigger.

Melissa: I still feel heaviness in my chest.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay. The heaviness is and let’s just keep tapping. Tell me

about the heaviness.

Melissa: The heaviness is a fear of being a hundred percent me in front of other

people.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Because if I’m a hundred percent me in front of other people,

what happens?

Melissa: They might not like me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And if they don’t like me, what does that mean about me?

Melissa: If they don’t like me then that means I’m not doing the thing that I

should be doing. Not living my purpose.

Rev. Anne Presuel: This is good. So keep tapping. I’m really afraid of being a

hundred percent me in front of other people.

Melissa: I’m really afraid of being a hundred percent me in front of other people.

Rev. Anne Presuel: What if they don’t like me?

Melissa: What if they don’t like me?

Rev. Anne Presuel: They really need to like me.


Melissa: They really need to like me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because it must mean … if they don’t like me,

Melissa: Because it must mean if they don’t like me,

Rev. Anne Presuel: Then I’m not really doing what I should be doing.

Melissa: Then I’m not doing really what I should be doing.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m not really living my purpose.

Melissa: I’m not really living my purpose.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And that scares the absolute heck out of me.

Melissa: And that scares the absolute heck out of me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’ve had a situation in my past…


Melissa: I’ve had a situation in my past…

Rev. Anne Presuel: Where people didn’t like me.

Melissa: Where people didn’t like me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Where they really didn’t like me.

Melissa: Where they really didn’t like me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And it was pretty awful.

Melissa: And it was pretty awful.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I was attacked…

Melissa: I was attacked...

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I really wanted to hide.


Melissa: And I really wanted to hide.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And even though I really learned how strong I was,

Melissa: And even though I really learned how strong I was,

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’ve learned I can survive people attacking me.

Melissa: I learned that I can survive people attacking me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Oh, who cares. (Laughs)

Melissa: Oh, who cares.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I don’t want to go through that again.

Melissa: I don’t want to go through that again.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I’m really afraid that if I’m a hundred percent myself,


Melissa: And I’m really afraid that if I’m a hundred percent myself,

Rev. Anne Presuel: They won’t like me.

Melissa: They won’t like me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I think it’s time to forgive.

Melissa: I think it’s time to forgive.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Really forgive.

Melissa: Really forgive.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And really understand…

Melissa: And really understand…

Rev. Anne Presuel: The gifts that I got from that other experience.


Melissa: The gifts that I got from that other experience.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because otherwise this is going to show up.

Melissa: Because otherwise this is going to show up.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Again and again and again.

Melissa: Again and again and again.

Rev. Anne Presuel: It’s come up so I can heal it.

Melissa: It’s come up so I can heal it.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And truly heal it.

Melissa: And truly heal it.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I’m really grateful for it.


Melissa: And I’m really grateful for it.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I do have a purpose.

Melissa: I do have a purpose.

Rev. Anne Presuel: It doesn’t matter if they like me or not.

Melissa: It doesn’t matter if they like me or not.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I like me.

Melissa: I like me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: As a matter of fact, I’m pretty awesome.

Melissa: As a matter of fact, I’m pretty awesome.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I am going to learn to let go.


Melissa: I’m going to learn to let go.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Of my fear.

Melissa: Of my fear.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Of being one hundred percent me.

Melissa: Of being one hundred percent me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: In front of other people.

Melissa: In front of other people.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m doing that right now.

Melissa: I’m doing that right now.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Being one hundred percent me.


Melissa: Being one hundred percent me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Is that true, by the way?

Melissa: In this moment? Yeah.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Yeah. You guys like her? Raise your hands. You’re just got

to have my word for it. (Laughs) *2. Raise your hands. You guys like her. Yes

or No? The whole thing is starting to light up. They all like you. Thank you

everybody.

You are being very real, very authentic. And that is so hooky. That is so

connecting. Everybody gets it because they all have the same stuff somewhere. A

fear of not being liked, the fear of not being gotten, the fear of not being

understood , the fear of not being really truly seen, accepted, everybody has that.

Keep tapping.

Take a nice deep breath. And just connect back with that.


I’m afraid of being one hundred me in front of other people because I’m afraid

they won’t like me. Tell me how true that is, scale of one to ten. Ten is the most,

one is the least.

Melissa: Three.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, good. Good. So, here’s your homework. You go find

places where you are truly one hundred percent you in front of other people. And

begin to tell yourself, “It’s safe for me to be one hundred percent me in front of

other people because they’re going to like me.”

Melissa: Okay.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And start to look for evidence that will support that belief, so

that you can really get it, viscerally, in your body. Your workshop, you have it in a

couple of weeks, right?

Melissa: Yeah.


Rev. Anne Presuel: You’ve got time to do some tapping and to really change this

belief. And I’ll be interested to hear, and I’m sure everybody else will too, so post

it in the Facebook group. How this shift for you, even though you can still feel the

panic, you do it anyway. You can tap when you feel the panic and say, “You know

what? That’s old stuff. I am safe. And it is okay for me to be who I am in front of

other people. It’s okay.”

Melissa: Yeah, okay.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay. Thank you.

Melissa: Thanks Anne.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Alright. Okay, so let’s see. Suzie from the Gold Coast. Hi!

Suzie: Hi Anne!

Rev. Anne Presuel: How are you?

Suzie: I’m very well, thank you.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Wonderful, so you raised your hand.

Suzie: I just would like to share where I’m going from last week of “Not being

enough.” And say that I feel that I’ve moved - I feel that I have more focus about

moving forward, and what I’m recognizing with my body, I see it like your body is

the barometer of your soul. The last days, I’ve had a lot of back pain and I’ve

realized that I’ve still been trying to … still looking outside myself to solutions

rather than going in to the solutions to help me move forward.

Rev. Anne Prresuel: Nice. Congratulations.

Suzie: So I think this and I replayed several times the exercises we did,, I did with

you last week. And I’ve done more tapping on that.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Keep us posted , Suzie. Keep us posted on any upcoming

“ahas” that you have and how you see that showing up differently. I’m trying to

remember what it was…


Suzie: When I heard it this week, somebody told me I have this energy that other

people say whether I walk into a room or what I express through social media and

things like that. But I don’t get it. I don’t feel it within.

And what I was saying last week was I have this thing that I’m sort of , I get things

to a certain stage where I should launch them and then I hold back. And that

affects my financial cash flow as well.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Sure, absolutely. You also had “Other people’s work are

more important than mine.”

Suzie: That’s right, I did.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Fear that you had to work a lot.

Suzie: I think I’ve actually come to terms of realizing that when I’m doing what

juices me or what you say is I mean a lot with my Divine purpose, is not work.

It’s when I’m doing things that may be I think I should be doing or I think other

people will like, that’s when I get backwards. And I’ve had evidence of that but


I’m actually making sure I recognize it more now. I’m journaling what’s

happening.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Nice. Well, congratulations. And thank you for sharing that.

Keep us posted on the Facebook blog. That’s awesome, Suzie. Thank you.

Suzie: Thank you.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Alright. So, before I go on to anything else. I want to share

with you what’s come up for me a result of doing this. We had over 350 people

sign up for this course which was really awesome. And what I realized as a result

of this was that there’s a real need and a real hunger for the healers to have some

mindset support around bringing their gift to the world, bringing their genius and

all of this healing work that we do that we are so passionate about.

As Karen was talking about tonight and Kristine, yes, there’s the issue of the skills.

Also, Melissa was talking about that. We have the issues of skills and bringing our

skills, getting our business skills up and getting our messages clear, getting our

sales skills and our marketing skills. Definitely, those are all pieces of building

your business.


I love what Suzie said which is even though you have some of the knowledge of

how to do a launch or how to become visible or what to do, if you stop yourself

because your fear of being visible or your fear of being seen or your fear of not

being perfect enough or right enough or good enough or fear of being judged, all of

those things if we stop ourselves because of that, we then don’t take the action that

we need to take to actually get the work out to the world.

And so one of the things that I realized that needs to be created as a result of this is

I want to create a membership site. We’re going to have the information, all of the

full and final information available and open ready for you all next week. We still

don’t have the page up for you to opt-in or anything like that but I do want to give

you a little bit of an overview of what it is that I’m creating.

It’s going to be the Divine Business Club. We’re going to be working on all of

this mindset together, by doing a monthly tapping call. We’re going to be doing a

monthly intuitive reading call. And I’m going to also provide for a once-a-month

affirmations recording because, in my opinion, while we have the tapping and

you’ll have the opportunity to work with me on the call, it’s off the call that this

stuff gets triggered up for all of us. And so if you have a way to shift the


conversation, the inner conversation off of the call, you’ll have a better chance of

taking the actions that you know you need to take.

One of the things that I’ve noticed for many, many entrepreneurs, is this fear of

stepping into and owning - really owning - who you are as a leader, as expert in the

field. Really having you be and stand in “I am this! and people are really

fortunate to be working with me because of the transformation that I can provide

for them.”

One of the things is when you stand in that space and you own who you are as that

leader and as the healer that you are, as the spiritual entrepreneur, you stand in a

much more powerful place and people will want to work with you. They are so

hooked into and really interested in working with you. And when you own that

piece viscerally, as Melissa was talking about, like really getting it, embodying that

passion, embodying that work that you do, the transformation that you provide, the

value of your work … when you see that within yourself, the world sees it and

responds to it.


And so that’s what this Divine Business Club is all about doing. We’re going to

be working together to have you claim that leadership space. And we’re going to

do it through the calls.

We’re going to do it at a really, really, really inexpensive price point so that it is an

absolute no brainer. I don’t have the exact numbers right now. I just want to tell

you it’s going to be less than $30.00 a month, probably something like $29.00 a

month. But we’re going to give you the option of a full-pay, where you can pay

like for a year and just be done with it. And you can have the option to have the

calls and have access to the community which, as you can see, is such a juicy

community. It’s such a wonderful, warm, supportive community.

Because I know that when you have that in place and you have that support, you

have the opportunity to run things by one another and to ask each other questions

and to have someone to work with, or someone to ask questions of . Something

that’s really inexpensive but you have the opportunity to really see yourself as the

rest of the world sees you.

And to me, that is one of the gifts that I can give to you is to give you that space

where you can begin to see yourself the Divine sees you, as who you came to be, in


standing up and owning your leadership in the world and taking that place, taking

your place as the leader that you came to be, because if you do that you’re then

creating your community around you.

You can truly feel the congruency and the authenticity of your work. You can

learn to truly trust yourself and truly trust that your clients will come to you

because they can see who you are. They know who you are. When you shift the

fear of owning that, then you stand in it, you be that, your world changes. Your

business will change.

I just want to share with that that’s what in the works. That’s where we’re going

for that. That’s what’s coming up for you. We’re going to have the information

available to you by next week. Crossing my fingers as I say that because I don’t

know how many of you are doing online businesses but there’s all those little

pieces that go in to having those pieces in place. But we’ll do our best. And

everybody, you can just give me, forgive me, whatever glitches we may have

because I’m just really tossing this together because I’m seeing the Divine

download is here. This is what will support you.


So, I want to open up the call and see if anybody has any questions about what I

just shared. If you have any questions, hit *2. It’s going to raise your hand and I’ll

unmute you.

Bakersfield, California 0240. Who is this? Last four digits 0240, Bakersfield,

California? Hello? You raised your hand. If you’re on mute, nobody can hear

you. I’m putting you back on mute. Alright, very good. Anybody else have any

questions or want to work with me, last chance. Otherwise, we’ll see you next

week.

We got a couple of people. I’m going back to Bakersfield.

Flora: Hello.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Hello.

Flora: Hi.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Hi.


Flora: This is Flora.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Flora. Hi, Flora. How are you?

Flora: Okay.

Rev. Anne Presuel: What’s your question?

Flora: What I’m running into is before we worked on taking action , and another

thing is when I go to bed at night, I figure out what I want to do the next day after

we committed to doing it but the next day I get into fear and don’t do what I need

to do.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay, great. I bet you there are other people on the call who

have the same situation. Tell me what it is that the fear is about “I’m afraid that”

what?

Flora: I think part of it is that I’m afraid I don’t know what to do or how to do it?

And even if I do know how, I’m afraid I won’t be able to do it.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Because?

Flora: Either because I don’t think I’m capable of it or I don’t want to take

responsibility for myself.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Which one is the strongest?

Flora: I don’t trust myself and I’m not wanting to take responsibility.

Rev. Anne Presuel: So, that’s the one I was highlighting. Tell me why you don’t

want to take responsibility for yourself.

Flora: I think in part because I’m not sure I really can do it.

Rev. Anne Presuel: That’s not true. Why don’t you want to take responsibility

for yourself ?

Flora: Maybe I’m not capable of doing it correctly or I don’t deserve to?

Rev. Anne Presuel: Which one of those is the strongest?


Flora: I don’t deserve to.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Is it? Really? You don’t feel that you deserve to take

responsibility for yourself ? Because that doesn’t feel true to me.

Flora: No, not so much.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Let me ask you this question. Let’s try this. If I take

responsibility for myself, then what happens? What bad thing happens?

Flora: I’ll screw it up.

Rev. Anne Presuel: All screwed up. I love it. So, I thought that… I’ll have to do

it correctly. I thought that was it. So, that’s really good, thank you.

Go to your sore spot or your karate chop, either way. I don’t want to take

responsibility for myself.

Flora: I don’t want to take responsibility for myself.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Because if I do, I’m going to screw it up.

Flora: Because if I do, I’m going to screw it up.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I have to do it correctly.

Flora: I have to do it correctly.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Whatever that means.

Flora: Whatever that means.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I don’t think I’m really capable.

Flora: I don’t think I’m really capable.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m really afraid to trust myself.

Flora: I’m really afraid to trust myself.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Top of the head: Somewhere, someone told me I’m not

capable of taking care of myself.

Flora: Somewhere, someone told me I’m not capable of taking care of myself.

Rev. Anne Presuel: So I just decided I was going to abdicate responsibility.

Flora: So I decided I’m going abdicate responsibility.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I was just going to make everybody else be responsible for

me.

Flora: I’m just going to make everybody else be responsible for me but there isn’t

anyone else to do it.

Rev. Anne Presuel: But there isn’t anyone else, imagine that. (Laughs)

Flora: There isn’t anyone else, imagine that.

Rev. Anne Presuel: So I am taking responsibility for me.


Flora: So I am taking responsibility for me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: As a matter of fact, right now, I’m on this call and taking

responsibility for me.

Flora: Being on this call and volunteering and taking responsibility for me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Exactly. By doing this tapping, I’m taking responsibility for

me.

Flora: By just doing this tapping, I’m taking responsibility for me that I called you

to help me do it.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Exactly. So it’s not true that I’m not capable.

Flora: So it’s not true that I’m not entirely incapable.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I may not know how…

Flora: I may not know how…


Rev. Anne Presuel: To take full and complete responsibility for myself.

Flora: To take full and complete responsibility for myself, especially financially.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Especially financially, but I am willing to learn.

Flora: Especially financially butt I’m willing to learn.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m open to doing this.

Flora: I’m open to doing this.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because right now...

Flora: Because right now…

Rev. Anne Presuel: I don’t want to keep doing things the way I’ve been doing

them.


Flora: I don’t want to keep doing things the way I’ve been doing them that I’m

afraid I can’t learn how to do it differently.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Say that again?

Flora: But I’m afraid I can’t learn how to do it differently.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Let me ask you a question, Flora. What’s the last thing

you’ve learned? Keep tapping.

Flora: Last thing I learned were some things about nutrition.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay. So I can learn new things.

Flora: I can learn new things.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I mean I’m not dead yet.

Flora: I’m not dead yet.


Rev. Anne Presuel: My brain is functioning.

Flora: My brain is functioning.

Rev. Anne Presuel: So I can learn new things.

Flora: So I can learn new things.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I don’t want to take responsibility for myself.

Flora: I really don’t want to take responsibility for myself.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because if I do,

Flora: Because if I do,

Rev. Anne Presuel: That means what?

Flora: That means I have to step beyond my fear.


Rev. Anne Presuel: And if step beyond my fear, what happens?

Flora: I feel like I’m going to fall off a cliff and goes splat.

Rev. Anne Presuel: But if I stay here I’m going to fall off a cliff and go splat.

Flora: But if I stay here I’m going to fall off a cliff and go splat.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m kind of between a rock and a hard spot.

Flora: I’m kind of between a rock and a hard spot.

Rev. Anne Presuel: But I haven’t gone splat yet.

Flora: I haven’t gone splat yet.

Rev. Anne Presuel: So maybe I won’t go splat.

Flora: Maybe I won’t go splat.


Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m just used to listening to my fears.

Flora: I’m just really used to listening to my fears.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m used to listening to my fears.

Flora: I’m used to listening to my fears.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m used to giving them the priority.

Flora: I’m used to giving my fears priority.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I think I don’t want to do that anymore.

Flora: I think I don’t want to do that anymore.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Because it isn’t working for me.

Flora: Because it isn’t working for me.


Rev. Anne Presuel: Even though I’m afraid,

Flora: Even though I’m afraid,

Rev. Anne Presuel: To take responsibility for myself,

Flora: To take responsibility for myself,

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m afraid I’ll fall off a cliff and go splat,

Flora: I’m afraid I’ll fall off a cliff and go splat,

Rev. Anne Presuel: This isn’t working either.

Flora: This really isn’t working either.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I’m really uncomfortable.

Flora: And I’m really uncomfortable.


Rev. Anne Presuel: And I’m really ready to make a change.

Flora: And I’m really to make a change.

Rev. Anne Presuel: While I partly don’t want to take responsibility for myself.

Flora: While I partly don’t want to take responsibility for myself.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I also…

Flora: I also…

Rev. Anne Presuel: Don’t want to keep going the way I’m going.

Flora: Don’t want to keep going the way I’m going.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m willing to begin to tell myself a different story.

Flora: I’m willing to begin to tell myself a different story.


Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m willing to learn what that would look like.

Flora: I’m willing to learn what that would look like.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m willing to learn what a new story would sound like.

Flora: I’m willing to learn what a new story would sound like.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Is that true, by the way?

Flora: It is true.


Flora: My fear is that I can’t accept it and believe it.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay. I’m willing not to always give my fears…

Flora: I’m willing not to always give my fears…


Rev. Anne Presuel: Top priority.

Flora: Top priority.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m willing to begin to make different choices.

Flora: I’m willing to begin making different choices.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And to stop thinking that my fears…

Flora: And to stop thinking that my fears…

Rev. Anne Presuel: To run the show.

Flora: To let them run the show.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’m willing to begin to say to myself.

Flora: I’m willing to begin to say to myself.


Rev. Anne Presuel: I’ve made it this far.

Flora: I’ve made it this far.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I’ve learned lots of things.

Flora: I’ve learned lots of things.

Rev. Anne Presuel: And I still have a reason for being here.

Flora: And I still have a reason for being here.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I choose…

Flora: I choose…

Rev. Anne Presuel: To trust this.

Flora: To trust this.



Flora: I choose…

Rev. Anne Presuel: To trust myself.

Flora: To trust myself.


Flora: I choose…

Rev. Anne Presuel: To trust God.

Flora: To trust God.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I choose to believe…

Flora: I choose to believe…


Rev. Anne Presuel: That I am competent.

Flora: That I am competent.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I am capable .

Flora: I am capable.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I do know what to do.

Flora: That I know what to do.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Take a nice deep breath. I want you to listen to that last little

bit, the last five minutes of our tapping, again and again, because it’s all about

choosing. And beginning to re-train your mind to think in a different way, okay?

Flora: Okay. Thank you.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay. Thank you, Flora. Okay, we have Portland Oregon,

3012. Hello?


Susan: Anne, that’s me.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Who is me?

Susan: This is Susan.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Hi, Susan.

Susan: Hi! I’ve been listening to your last, um, three teleclasses and I have to say

that I’ve learned a lot from everybody who is in the class.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I know. It’s awesome. What can I do for you, Susan? What

can I help you with?

Susan: I want to ask you about transparency.


Susan: There’s a part of me that when I write or if I’m on Facebook and wanting

to share inspiration , I have fear of being transparent of personal things that are


happening in my life, my lessons and how I’m using tools to grow through them.

And because people know what I do that I’m a coach, that I have this fear that I’m

going to be not shown as a leader, but just a person. And I don’t know how to get

over this.

Rev. Anne Presuel: Okay perfect. I love this question. I think that everybody

here can relate to this. And I want to say one thing about this.

Different people have different levels of transparency. And I actually had a mentor

once who thought that she showed her panties. I like to call it showing your

panties. And in my opinion, she didn’t. She thought she was being all vulnerable

and sharing but she would only tell people anything like six months after it

happened, so that she already gotten everything all resolved. I think sometimes

there’s an essence of when you go through something sharing that is very revealing

and very powerful and it connects you.

Now having said that, there’s also the essence of “TMI.” We don’t need to share

everything. There’s a piece of balance. There is a piece of transparency and

vulnerability. But then there’s also the piece of Too Much Information. So we

have to be appropriate when you are taking full responsibility for yourself and


your challenges and also doing it without the trigger. That’s where I think it is

really powerful for people to be able to learn from you and to connect with you,

because you can be sort of in the toilet, so to speak, not literally but you know what

I mean, and also just going, “Oh, well, there we go again!” And being real, but

not being like “I will take you down” like letting it all hang out. There’s a

difference between the two.

So that’s the fine line. I think that everybody has to learn to walk what is their

level of transparency and vulnerability and without it going into the world of

“TMI.”

Because people really resonate and relate to you when you are transparent but they

do not want to know all of your foibles. They don’t want to know all of your

warts. They don’t want to see it. There’s an essence of mystic and mystery that I

think is really important for us to keep alive for our people because they really do

want you to be their leader. And owning that leadership is really important.

Susan: Okay.


Rev. Anne Presuel: That means finding the appropriate people to work through

the stuff that comes up and doing that not in front of everybody.

Like I can relate to everything everybody says here. And I go and I work on my

own stuff. And the reason I can help other people move through their stuff is

because I’ve worked on my stuff. Does that make sense?

Susan: Yeah. I worked a lot for the last four years, I’ve done a lot of self-healing

and to the things that I’ve healed myself on and the tools that I use on my own, I

can show people what I’ve done. And it’s like “How do I present myself as a

leader?” but then when you talk to somebody in a consultation, I’m healing, and I

want people to relate to me that I’m a human being. I still am learning lessons that

I’m not this perfect person.

And what I see this especially on Facebook is there’s so many positive people. As

a matter of fact, one of my friends told my other friend why am I personally always

so happy. Doesn’t she have any down days? Or anything she’s going through?

And so I don’t know the balance between being a leader and helping somebody

with something that I’m going through that I can help somebody with.


Rev. Anne Presuel: I think it’s a really good conversation and it’s a really good

exploration because your level of vulnerability and transparency maybe different

from mine or that other mentor I was telling you about or another one. And men,

for example, we’ll have a different level of transparency than women do.

So each of us and healers have a different level of transparency I think than most

others do. I think most of us are a lot more open and transparent about our

journey. But sometimes there is an essence of too much. I would say just look and

start the conversation, start the exploration of what that looks like, if it’s too much.

And if you feel that someone else is too much, why is it? Just really explore why

does that feel like it’s too much? Is it because they’ve just sort of vomited all over

the place? And now they want someone else to clean it up? Or is it because they

were inappropriate in some way? What is it that makes it “TMI” or too much and

what is it that makes it, “Oh, that’s really cool.” How is it that that then connected

me to that person?

I used to think that telling my story was going to be something that was not so

cool. And those of you who are live on the call last week heard the story and I


spent probably fifteen minutes telling the story. But for some odd reason, I forgot

to start the recording which is kind of funny. But I tell it on the website, anyway.

I don’t try and hide the story of what happened in my life and how I became to be

who I am and what I’m doing. What I wanted to share with that was initially I

used to say I don’t want to tell the story. “I don’t want to tell it.” I lived it. I’ve

been it, done it done that, got the t-shirt. I’m done with that. I don’t want to tell

the story.

And I was guided by mentors to tell the story, to share the story, but to share it in a

certain way. Like not in a triggered way but in a “This happened,” which it did.

And I used to tell it in a 3-minute version but the cliff notes version.

And then I was on the call with someone who I really like a lot and I respect a lot.

She was telling her story and her story was really interesting and she went on and

on and on. And I was so engaged in her story that was like, “She has spent twenty

minutes telling her story. Oh my gosh!” And I was like “That is so cool.” So I

realized that that telling of her story really engaged me and hooked me, and had me

connected to her. She gave me permission then to really share my story in a heart-

felt way but not in an inappropriate way.


And that was my journey in understanding about transparency and I still share stuff

and I have my stuff and I get triggered and all that. But I do it in a way that’s

humorous because then it doesn’t weigh on anybody else to take care of it for me.

I’m totally responsible for my stuff. And that is an appropriate way of sharing who

you are and being transparent.

So just watch how you do it and the way you do it. I’m not going to do any

tapping on that today but this one I’m telling you right now is gold. So if you

really start to share and look at that and see what’s appropriate. Why is it

appropriate? What are the boundaries and where is it too much? You’ll begin to

understand how your story will be right for you, and how you share your story is

right for you. Does that help?

Susan: Yeah, it does. It really does. I really haven’t started my business yet.

And I’m just at this point where I’m doing a lot of positive things that a few things

that I’m going through and then how I’m learning it. Some people like to help you

out and some people say, “Well, I really resonate with this, thank you so much.”

I think it’s because we’re so inundated with such positivity, which is really nice.

But a lot of people just don’t want to share another side of them. So, I just don’t


know where the appropriate medium is between being transparent to how far like

you explained and when not to be transparent.

Rev. Anne Presuel: I think just in the exploration of it, start watching and start

listening to how other people share their stories and what happened and you’ll see

where your gut will tell you “Oh, that was too much.” or “I want more.” and

“That was really good.” And “How did they do that?”

And this is good for everybody here, by the way, every person on the call because

each one of you has a story and each one of you has something that’s really

important to share. And finding that balance or that line is an essential piece of

building your business.

Okay, thank you very much. We have to go. We’re way over and I want to thank

everyone who stayed on the call today. You guys totally rock. I’ll see you in the

Facebook forum. And again, Roberta, hang on one second, I’ll stand with you for

a minute and help you get into the Facebook real quick.

Everybody else, thank you so much. Big hugs to you. We’ll see you next week on

the call.


Divine hugs to you,

Anne

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