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Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Drug-eluting stentsand occluded arteries
Eric J Topol MDDirector, Scripps Translational Science InstituteChief Academic Officer, Scripps HealthProfessor of Translational Genomics, TSRISenior Consultant, Division of Cardiovascular Diseases, Scripps ClinicLa Jolla, CA
Robert M Califf MDProfessor of MedicineVice Chancellor for Clinical ResearchDirector, Duke Clinical Research InstituteDuke University Medical CenterDurham, NC
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Drug-eluting stents
The dominant form of therapy in interventional cardiology
Drug-eluting stents have led to a dramatic reduction in restenosis rates
Potential risk: Stent thrombosis
In response to discussion at the European Society of Cardiology, the FDA held a hearing• To understand whether the signal is real• If it is, to determine what to do about it
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Two-day FDA meeting
As many as 40 different presentations of data from around the world
Day 1
• On-label indications for drug-eluting stents, which are fairly restrictive
Day 2
• Off-label indications, which are the dominant uses
• ~60%–70% of drug-eluting stents are used for off-label indications
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Day 1
Individualized data from all the Taxus and Cypher randomized trials• Risk of late thrombosis was offset by protection
from death and MI early on
If drug-eluting stents are used on-label with on-label antiplatelet medication, the risk of late stent thrombosis was mitigated by some of the protective aspects• For the low-risk population included in randomized
trials, the overall data looked favorable
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Risk vs benefit
Drug-eluting stents are very useful • Studied in very well done randomized trials for
particular types of patients
The risk of late thrombosis isn't large relative to the benefit • We need to determine who is at risk and what
can be done to prevent it
Were these people on clopidogrel longer than the recommended on-label duration?
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Real-world antiplatelet therapy
Most of the patients adhered to the recommendation in the randomized trials
• Six months of clopidogrel for Taxus stents, three months for Cypher stents
Is that representative of the way antiplatelet therapies are used in the real world?
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Restenosis is not benignConvincing data showed that restenosis inside drug-eluting stents is not as benign as many of us thought
The reason the risk of late thrombosis is neutralized is probably because the risk of in-stent restenosis is not as benign as thought
• In-stent restenosis is much more common with bare-metal stents
I think the antiplatelet therapy limited to three to six months is not representative of real-world practice
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Duration of antiplatelet therapy
How long will you leave your on-label patients on clopidogrel?
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
No data for on- or off-label patients
The bleeding risk of patients must be considered
If someone has panvascular disease or worrisome coronary anatomy, there might be reasons to use more than three to six months of antiplatelet therapy in an on-label situation
The AHA/ACC recommends dual antiplatelet therapy for one year after a drug-eluting stent, regardless of label
"I don't know where that came from because I'm not aware of any data to substantiate that."
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Revisiting CREDO
CREDO showed that one year was superior to one month of clopidogrel plus aspirin for bare-metal stents
The superiority had little to do with the stent• It had to do with protection from MI (coming from
nontarget vessels) and stroke
The same results were seen in CHARISMA• Patients with coronary disease who got dual
antiplatelet therapy were protected from death, MI, and stroke
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
The art of medicine
You might want to continue dual antiplatelet therapy for even longer than one year
You have to look at the individual patient
• Bleeds can be very serious
"There's still room for the art of medicine, that's why I don't like guidelines."
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
The trouble with guidelines
There's room to individualize medicine • That's why a doctor and patient need to
determine what's right for that individual
"It's about the bleeding hazard, it's about the panvascular atherosclerotic burden, the LV function—if this vessel were to thrombose, how much of a risk is it to this patient? There are no guidelines that are going to take all those things into account."
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Duke study
Off-label use of drug-eluting stents is more controversial
Study from Duke University just published • Real-world, all comers • Drug-eluting and bare-metal stents • Varying durations of antiplatelet therapy
Results suggest that the best possible outcome was in patients who received drug-eluting stents and long-term dual antiplatelet therapy
Topol
Eisenstein EL et al. Clopidogrel use and long-term clinical outcomes after drug-eluting stent implantation. JAMA; published online before print December 5, 2006.
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Swedish registry
There was a very significant risk (~0.6%) of late thrombosis that appeared to be continuous over time
Because drug-eluting stents are not the predominant stent used in Sweden, data were available from both types of stents
"That data from Sweden had significance, especially in terms of raising concern."
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Other data presented
There were many other sets of data presented
BASKET-LATE trial
• The only randomized trial of off-label patients to suggest concern for late thrombosis
Editorial published within a week of the FDA meeting
Topol
Harrington RA et al. Late ischemic events after clopidogrel cessation following drug-eluting stenting. Should we be worried? J Am Coll Cardiol 2006; 48:2592-2594.
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
The DEcIDE Network
We had a contract with the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality
• Determine what to do about in-stent restenosis
We used our database to look at issues concerning modern revascularization therapy
Califf
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Replication of Swedish results
An all-comers analysis (not randomized) showed that drug-eluting stents look better than bare-metal stents in the early phase for death and MI
There's a hazard after about nine to 12 months that doesn't ever diminish • When you compare drug-eluting and bare-
metal stents, the excess risk of having an event at 18 months and one day is about the same as at 12 months and one day
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
No difference
When you average the early benefit and the late detriment over two years, there's no significant difference• There is a worrisome trajectory
Best outcome: Drug-eluting-stent patients who stayed on clopidogrel
Worst outcome: Drug-eluting-stent patients who stopped clopidogrel
Intermediate outcome: Bare-metal-stent patients, whether on clopidogrel or not
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
BASKET-LATE
BASKET-LATE randomized to type of stent and then stopped clopidogrel in everyone
The results looked like the bare-metal and the drug-eluting stent arms of our study in which patients were not taking clopidogrel
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Time-oriented analysis
The Swedish registry is a common database with long-term follow-up that includes almost every stent put in in Sweden
Drug-eluting stents look better early on but the curves slip and the excess hazard doesn't change after that
In the all-comers situation, does the risk keep expanding or stay flat?
What is the right direction for clopidogrel?
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Inadequate antiplatelet therapy?
The Swedish data looked more worrisome • In the Swedish registry, duration of
clopidogrel was limited• In the Duke study, the best arm was
clopidogrel for two years
BASKET LATE, a small randomized trial, and the Duke study corroborated these results• The hazard with drug-eluting stents seems
to be related to the limited duration of clopidogrel
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Restrict use of drug-eluting stents
"We are left with the sense that, until these matters are worked out, the interventional cardiology community should be a little more restrictive or judicious about the use of drug-eluting stents in a population of patients where the risk/benefit evidence is incomplete and at least somewhat concerning."
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Patient compliance
Up to 20% of people are not going to take their clopidogrel
• Because of an upcoming surgical procedure
• Because of social circumstances
"I see no excuse for putting a drug-eluting stent in a person like that, and I think it has to be stopped."
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Unforeseen surgery
The problem arises when surgery is unforeseen
When you know a patient is not going to be compliant or has an upcoming major operation, it's straightforward
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
The gray zone
We have a large gray zone in terms of stent selection
It might not ever get sorted out with the current stents • Maybe new technology will take care of the
problem
Do you agree with Renu Virmani, that this is a predictable issue that should have been better looked at because people knew in advance that it was going to be a problem?
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Biologic mechanisms?
I think that there is a biology that leads to incomplete endothelialization • However, for some patients, the stent
might not have been put in properly
The bulk of patients who have stent thrombosis might be poor endothelializers or have more active platelet reactivity• The true biologic mechanisms in such
patients have not yet been worked out
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Defining who is at risk
More than one million people each year in the US get stents
If we could define who was really at risk, then probably only a very limited number of patients would require dual antiplatelet therapy for multiple years
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Did the FDA make a difference?
The FDA deserves credit for having gathered, from all over the world, virtually every group doing research to come in for two days and review all the data
"Will the cardiologists take any heed of this and be a little more judicious? I doubt it. I suspect it won't change practice patterns very much."
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Getting the data we need
We need a national system of data collection about drugs and devices
We need to do much simpler and more frequent randomized trials
Until we get a national system, we're going to continue to get fragmented one-off studies• All the world's experts can't figure out
exactly what these data mean
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Two approaches
We need a very large randomized trial comparing long-duration clopidogrel with on-label use (up to six months)
We need to get the DNA from hundreds of patients who have had late stent thrombosis and who are still alive
• That would provide insight about predisposing factors
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
The value of DNA testing?
"My prediction is that won't be very helpful, but I'd be in favor of doing it. I would like to be proven wrong on that because, if you could predict who is at risk, it would change the treatment to being very targeted to those people."
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
The value of DNA testing
"I say that if we could get those hundreds of patients who had late stent thrombosis together, it would be extremely helpful and informative."
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Two thumbs up
Some of the Fellows at Duke are working right now on just what you described
Two thumbs up for the FDA
A neutral rating for the clinical-practice community and the industry
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
The Occluded Artery Trial (OAT)
NIH-sponsored major trial to address whether or not to open up an occluded infarct-related artery a month after an MI event
Results suggest that patients who had their infarct-related artery opened had more events and did not benefit
Topol
Hochman JS, et al. Coronary intervention for persistent occlusion after myocardial infarction. N Engl J Med 2006; 355:2395-2407.
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
OAT population
The goal was to find people who had an occluded artery three to 28 days after an MI• People with left main or three-vessel
disease or angina at rest or who were hemodynamically unstable (very highest-risk people) were excluded
Researchers attempted to simulate the run-of-the-mill patient who comes in with a relatively uncomplicated infarct and then three days later in the cath lab it is discovered that an artery is occluded
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
OAT resultsOAT randomized 2166 patients
Primary end point (composite of death, MI, and heart failure)• 17% of PCI patients vs 15.6% of medically
treated patients
Death (4-year total) • 9.1% of PCI patients vs 9.4% of medically
treated patients
Nonfatal infarction • 6.9% of PCI patients vs 5% of medically
treated patients
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Total Occlusion Studyof Canada (TOSCA)-2
Angiographic study looking at left ventricular (LV) function and volumes
In the group randomized to opening with PCI
• Very small changes in LV volumes
• No big change in LV function in the group randomized to opening with PCI
Califf
Dzavik V, et al. Randomized trial of percutaneous coronary intervention for subacute infarct-related coronary artery occlusion to achieve long-term patency and improve ventricular function. The Total Occlusion Study of Canada (TOSCA)-2 trial. Circulation 2006; 114:2449-2557.
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Another humiliating defeat
The medical-treatment group did pretty well
• We really should try to get the right vascular and metabolic protective agents on board in people who have recently had an MI
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
No functional assessment
If someone has an occluded artery, wouldn't they have a functional assessment if they had provocable ischemia?
• In TOSCA-2, they didn't have to
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
TOSCA-2 still inclusive
Correct, although people who did have a functional assessment, unless it was profound ischemia, were still randomized, so some of those patients were included
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Real-world patients
You would like to think that, in practice, the patients with provocable ischemia would have been segmented
• Opening up the artery on pure anatomical grounds is very tenuous
TOSCA-2 had a very protracted recruitment period and was a struggle to complete
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
A period of American failures
Just over 400 patients randomized in the US
• Took longer than in the rest of the world
Many of our prestigious centers felt they already knew the answer
• Intervention was mandated in these patients to save their lives, and they couldn't possibly be randomized
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
The rest of the world answered the question
That gives an out to American practitioners who believe that there is something magic about American medicine
"It's concerning in the overall trend that we're increasingly outsourcing our clinical research, leaving us in a position of not knowing if the results apply to our own circumstances."
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Homegrown data
Are data from outside the US not as good as US data?
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
The data can be as good
Whether it's applicable to US practice depends on a number of factors• If the data are from a center that gives
good medical therapy, where the technology and practice patterns are similar, then they can be as good
• If the data are from a place that gives very different medical therapy, has different follow-up, a patient population that might be dependent on the trial to get regular medical care, then they might not be as good
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
US bias
Overall bias in the US
• The question of whether to open up an artery was considered to be resolved, even though it had never been adequately addressed before OAT
Most of the sites participating in OAT had a relatively comparable level of quality of care
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Every study should be looked at individually
The Clopidogrel and Metoprolol in Myocardial Infarction Trial (COMMIT) study in China
• A great study for China, but I'm not sure that the results can be applied to American practice
Some American physicians will likely say that OAT doesn't apply because the patients weren't representative of American practice
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
US attitude
"I think there's a bit too much of this 'doing-it-better-in-the-US' attitude, which is unfounded."
There are no data indicating that treatment in the US is associated with better outcomes
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
There are things we're not better at
We should cooperate with the rest of the world • Coronary disease doesn't know the
difference between a Frenchman and an American
"We need to hold up our end of the bargain and develop systems that do clinical research more effectively, which we're failing at right now."
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
The reason for randomized trials
The OAT results came as a surprise
"I guess that's why you do randomized trials."
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Opening an artery
Why does opening a closed infarct vessel, opened for only anatomic reasons, potentially hurt people? • It certainly didn't help anybody in OAT
overall
Is that because you embolize the clot and atheromatous material? • So you can't recruit collaterals when you
need to • It basically shuts down the collateral
network
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Reasons for unexpected results
The effects on myocardial healing and electrical stability were much less than hoped for
In TOSCA, the most seriously damaged people were excluded, so the effect seen was quite small
Electrical instability is a whole different issue with the widespread use of beta blockers and ACE inhibitors
• The risk of sudden death in such populations has dramatically gone down
Many of the old observational studies indicated that the greatest benefit was prevention of sudden death
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Contributing factor
Beta blockers have preempted the need to open up arteries
"Unfortunately, we don't do a very good job of preventing the destruction of the collateral circuitry."
Topol
Hillis LD and Lange RA. Myocardial infarction and the open-artery hypothesis. N Engl J Med 2006; 355:2475-2477.
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Two sides of the coinThere are two areas of damage • That done during the procedure • The set of factors that change the
distribution of blood flow over time in the myocardium
We can now grow collateral vessels using growth factors
It is possible for an artery that was previously feeding a dead zone to provide key blood nutrition to other areas through collateral flow to those areas as they become stenosed or occluded
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Clinical trials do surprise
The first trial we did, the Thrombolysis and Angioplasty in Myocardial Infarction (TAMI) trial, had some similarities to the OAT trial
We were sure that opening the artery after thrombolysis would improve the outcome of patients
That's probably what makes clinical trials still fun to do, even after all these years
Califf
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Will it change practice?
Ideally in practice, there's a functional assessment• If that had been done in OAT, a lot of patients
would not have been subjected to potential PCI
Doing PCI postinfarct on pure anatomic grounds is a strategy that needs to be challenged
I give OAT two thumbs up
Topol
Thumbs up / Thumbs down – Dec 22, 2006
Two thumbs up for OAT
"I agree; two thumbs up and an extra pat on the back for perseverance against the odds."
Califf