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The Stairway to Heavenly Payments Richard Duszak, MD, FACR, FSIR, FRBMA Professor and Vice Chair for Health Policy and Practice Department of Radiology and Imaging Sciences Emory University School of Medicine

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Page 1: The Stairway to Heavenly Payments · described, the tip is seen fluoroscopically at the level of the right atrial and superior vena cava junction. Fluoroscopy demonstrates no evidence

The Stairway to Heavenly Payments

Richard Duszak, MD, FACR, FSIR, FRBMA

Professor and Vice Chair for Health Policy and Practice

Department of Radiology and Imaging Sciences

Emory University School of Medicine

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Research Support Acknowledgements

Harvey L. Neiman Health Policy Institute

Wallace H. Coulter Foundation

Woodruff Health Sciences Center

Financial Disclosures

Consultant, United States Department of Justice

Consultant, United States Department of Homeland Security

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The Future

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What is Value?

Value =Quality

Cost

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Do You Want to Get Paid?

Medicare fee-for-service payments

• 85% tied to quality or value by 2016

• 90% tied to quality or value by 2018

All Medicare payments

• 30% through alternative payment models by 2016

• 50% through alternative payment models by 2018

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Lower Cost

Hig

her

Qu

alit

y

Fee for

Service

Accountable

Episodes

Pay for

Performance

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Lower Cost

Hig

her

Qu

alit

y

Fee for

Service

Accountable

Episodes

Pay for

Performance

Agenda

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Take Advantage of Your Tools

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Lower Cost

Hig

her

Qu

alit

y

Fee for

Service

Accountable

Episodes

Pay for

Performance

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Lower Cost

Hig

her

Qu

alit

y

Fee for

Service

Accountable

Episodes

Pay for

Performance

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What is Fee for Service?

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FFS Paid on Best Practice Basis

$8.85

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Fee for Service = Fee for Volume

$8.85

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What if it Were Your $8.85?

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Physician Reporting

CPT coding drives payment under FFS

As a general rule, payment for higher

complexity codes is higher than that for lower

intensity codes

Physician documentation drives code selection

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Complete Abdominal US (76700)

1. Liver

2. Gallbladder

3. Common bile duct

4. Pancreas

5. Spleen

6. Kidneys

7. Upper abdominal aorta

8. Inferior vena cava

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Limited Abdominal US (76705)

1. Liver

2. Gallbladder

3. Common bile duct

4. Pancreas

5. Spleen

6. Kidneys

7. Upper abdominal aorta

8. Inferior vena cava

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Abdominal Ultrasound

76705 Limited

76700 Complete

39%

$28.24

$39.13

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Ultrasound Documentation

336,062 abdominal US

reports

37 facilities

1,136 radiologists

Incomplete documentation

7 or fewer elements on

complete examinations

9.3% to 20.2% of reports

2.5% to 5.5% lost

revenue

Duszak R, et al. JACR 2012; 9: 403-408.

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Lower Cost

Hig

her

Qu

alit

y

Fee for

Service

Accountable

Episodes

Pay for

Performance

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Lower Cost

Hig

her

Qu

alit

y

Fee for

Service

Accountable

Episodes

Pay for

Performance

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The Devil’s in the Details

Value =Quality

Cost

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PQRS: Common Radiology Metrics

All process based (i.e., not outcomes based)

Specific metrics: CT or MR for stroke: Documentation of hemorrhage, mass,

infarct

Carotid duplex for stroke: Stenosis reported in reference to distal ICA diameter

Fluoroscopy: Documentation of radiation dose or exposure time

Central lines: Documentation of maximal sterile barrier technique

Mammography: Screening mammograms reported as “probably benign”

Bone scan: Documentation of correlation with relevant imaging

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PQRS Documentation

CLINICAL HISTORY

Chronic renal failure, with failed dialysis fistula, and hyperkalemia. Central venous access was requested for

urgent hemodialysis.

PROCEDURE

The procedure, options, and risks were reviewed. Maximal sterile barrier technique was utilized. After local

anesthesia with 1% lidocaine, using real-time sonographic guidance, 21 gauge single-wall needle access was

easily achieved into the right internal jugular vein using an anterior approach. The tract was converted with a

micropuncture set to allowing introduction of a J wire down into the inferior vena cava under fluoroscopic control.

The tract was dilated to allow introduction of 16 cm long triple lumen hemodialysis catheter. The catheter was

sutured to the skin with silk suture. Catheter care was provided by the hospital staff. There were no immediate

complications. Total fluoroscopy time was 0.4 minutes.

COMMENT

The right jugular vein is patent and easily compressible. After placement of the central venous catheter, as

described, the tip is seen fluoroscopically at the level of the right atrial and superior vena cava junction.

Fluoroscopy demonstrates no evidence for pneumothorax. Permanent images were obtained.

IMPRESSION

Uncomplicated imaging guided placement of temporary hemodialysis catheter.

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PQRS: Early National Results

Mean DR bonus in 2010: $2,811.39

Qualified for bonuses:

23.7% of radiologists

16.3% of non-radiologists

Registry reporting better than claims-based

Odds ratio 4.40 (95% CI 4.03-4.80)

Duszak R, et al. JACR 2013; 10: 114-121.

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PQRS: Financial Projections

Duszak R, et al. JACR 2013; 10: 114-121.

Without physician, practice, or program changes…

over 75% of radiologists may face mean penalties…

of at least $2,654 in 2016…

totaling an estimated $111,393,067 for the entire profession!

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Success Depends on the Metric

Rosenkrantz AB, et al. JACR 2016; 13:243-248

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What Measures Matter?

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Let’s Measure Stuff that Matters

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Dose Matters…To Us!

Flug J, et al. JACR 2016.

0.0%

5.0%

10.0%

15.0%

20.0%

25.0%

30.0%

35.0%

40.0%

2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

Radiologists Non-Radiologists

Medicare abdominal computed tomography “double scan” rates by specialty group.

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MIPS: It’s All About Your Composite Score

25%

15%

10%

50%

2019

25%

15%

30%

30%

2021

Quality (Old PQRS)

Resource Use (Old VBPM)

Advancing Care Information (Old MU)

Clinical Practice Improvement

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$80

$85

$90

$95

$100

$105

$110

$115

2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022

MIPS: It’s A Zero Sum Game

+19.8%

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Leverage Emerging Tools

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Lower Cost

Hig

her

Qu

alit

y

Fee for

Service

Accountable

Episodes

Pay for

Performance

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Lower Cost

Hig

her

Qu

alit

y

Fee for

Service

Accountable

Episodes

Pay for

Performance

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The Inpatient Hospital Episode

Focus of most “episode of care” bundled

payment interest

Metrics du jour have focused on hospitals

Length of stay

Readmissions

Physicians have still been paid under FFS

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Inpatient Spending Distribution

Graphic from Komisar HL, et al. “Bundling” Payment. Center for American Progress, 2011.

Most spending in

hospitals is for

hospital services

Physicians don’t

matter much, right?

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Physicians Matter a Lot!

Many policy makers miss the real

cost (and value) of physicians

Yes, they don’t directly cost a lot, but…

They’re calling day to day health care

shots!

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Physicians Matter a Lot!

Many policy makers miss the real

cost (and value) of physicians

Yes, they don’t directly cost a lot, but…

They’re calling day to day health care

shots!

Who has control over…

Use of hospital services?

Involvement of other physicians?

Likelihood of readmission?

Appropriate use of post-acute care?

Physicians!

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Perspectives on Slicing the Pie

Just the physician piece?

Or, the whole pie?

14%

Total Health Care Spending

Physician

Other

?

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Perspectives on Slicing the Pie

Just the physician piece?

Or, the whole pie?

They’re not separate!

14%

Total Health Care Spending

Physician

Other

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Re-slicing the Pie

What if we could cut waste and

inefficiencies by 15%?

12%

15%

Total Health Care Spending

PhysicianSavingsOther

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Re-slicing the Pie

Opportunities for savings

12%

Total Health Care Spending

PhysicianSavingsHospital

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The Future is Here Now

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How Will Bundles Play Out?

Hospital CEO convenes meeting of physicians

Everyone thinks his group is entitled to 90%

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How About This Approach?

One specialist presents robust national data

Based on nearly one billion Medicare claims

Descending frequency order by DRG

Range of services by his specialty

Specific CPT codes

Percentage of total physician spending

Asks for…

90% of national mean specialty payment per DRG

Plus, 25% of hospital savings on technical costs

controlled by specialty

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How To Lead Data and Information!

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But Where are the Tools?

www.neimanhpi.org

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ICE-T: DRG Ranking Tool

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ICE-T: Medicare Cost Estimator

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ICE-T: Professional Share Estimator

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Armed with Information

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Geography Matters

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What About Me?

Neiman Almanac at www.neimanhpi.org

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The Extremes

Neiman Almanac at www.neimanhpi.org

Florida

Ohio

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But What About Me?

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Smaller is Better (Information)

Rosenkrantz AB, et al. Unpublished data.

County level variation in Medicare medical imaging events per 1,000 beneficiaries.

Green = less than national average, red = greater than national average.

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Don’t Forget Variations in Turf

Rosman DA, et al. AJR 2015; 204: 1042-1048.

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Big Spending Means Big Opportunities

Main T & Slywotzky A. The Volume to Value Revolution, 2012.

CareMore approach to Medicare Advantage population health management

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Spiraling Savings

Focus on Top Tier

Focus on Lower Tier

Focus on Yet Lower Tier

Resources Savings

$

$ProfitReinvestment

$

And So On…

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Quality

Co

st Low Quality

High CostHigh Quality

High Cost

Low QualityLow Cost

High QualityLow Cost

Accountability is Key

• Appropriateness

• Safety

• Efficiency

• Satisfaction

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Quality Safeguards are Critical

Process driven

Accreditation

Procedures

Reporting

Outcomes driven

Immediate

Short-term

Long-term

Transparency

To payers

To consumers

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Report Cards

You may not be getting them yet…

But, you will increasingly be graded

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My Report Card: Physician Compare

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How Do Radiologists Compare?

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Physician Evaluate Thyself

Those who proactively self assess

themselves—and define ways to assess

themselves—are less likely to be surprised

Leverage existing processes! Accreditation

PQRS

MOC

Information about quality is essential to

demonstrate value

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Payment Systems are Evolving

It is not the strongest

of physicians that

survives, nor the most

intelligent, but the one

most responsive to

change.

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Thank You!

[email protected]

@RichDuszak