the science of morality
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In 1739, Hume argued that science can help us get *what* we value, but it can't tell us what we *ought* to value. In his new book, “The Moral Landscape”, Sam Harris says this is now a dangerous illusion. This multi-media talk reviews the arguments pro and con for the birth of a new discipline: “The Science of Morality.”TRANSCRIPT
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Birth of A New Discipline(?): “The Science of Morality”
Image: http://www.artinthepicture.com/artists/Alessandro_Botticelli/birth.jpeg /
Tim Zebohttp://www.slideshare.net/jerseyguy http://www.facebook.com/[email protected]
UUCMC DialogJanuary 16, 2011
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“The Moral Landscape” (293 pages)
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References (~880; 14%)
Notes(364;15%)
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Judgments of Facts & Values
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Facts: the way things are - “This DVD weighs .55 ounces” Values: what’s worthwhile (or not)?
• Aesthetic- “This is great science fiction”• Comparative- “Star Wars #1 is better than #2.”•Instrumental- “Netflix can easily mail this.”• Interpretive- “War will always be with us.”•Moral-”It’s wrong to copy this DVD based on harm, fairness & authority.”
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Brain States of Conscious Creatures
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Morality <=> Well-Being (Brain States)
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Premise: Flourishing depends on measurable facts
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Brain States
Individual & Group Behaviors
World Conditions: Cultural, Economic, Political, Environmental, etc., etc., etc.
Outcomes for Human Flourishing: “The Moral Landscape”
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Outcomes for Human Flourishing: “The Moral Landscape”
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Good LivesBad Lives
Terrific Lives
Horrible Lives
Premise: Some have better lives than others
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Outcomes for Human Flourishing: “The Moral Landscape”
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Good LivesBad Lives
Terrific Lives
Horrible Lives
• What are the dimensions of human flourishing?• Do UU’s Seven Principles cover all the dimensions?
• What are the dimensions of human flourishing?• Do UU’s Seven Principles cover all the dimensions?
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Why should we care? The Moral Landscape: “Introduction”
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• What risks does “faith” (belief without evidence) pose to human flourishing? • What risks does “faith” (belief without evidence) pose to human flourishing?
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“Science & religion are in conflict because evidence & reasoning trump “faith” when it comes to understanding reality.”
“Science & religion are in conflict because evidence & reasoning trump “faith” when it comes to understanding reality.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7h08RDYA5E
U.S. House of Representatives Energy and Commerce CommitteeChairmanFred Upton (R-MI) – “Every member and every subcommittee will be on the frontlines as we take on federal agencies to target areas to immediately cut spending."Subcommittee on Environment and EconomyChair - John Shimkus (R-IL)Vice Chair - Tim Murphy (R-PA)
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Chapter 1: “Moral Truth”
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• “That feminists in the West remain silent about this deeply ingrained and institutionalized mistreatment of women is a scandal of our time.” What, if anything, should UUs do about “women in cloth bags”?
• “That feminists in the West remain silent about this deeply ingrained and institutionalized mistreatment of women is a scandal of our time.” What, if anything, should UUs do about “women in cloth bags”?
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http://tbknews.blogspot.com/2007/10/violent-oppression-of-women-in-islam.html
• Even educated people today mistakenly believe there is only moral preference; Harris disagrees
• Well Being, like health, lies on a continuum defined by goals - both can be measured using science and reason as tools.
• Science can measure the best & worst possible lives (e.g., “women in cloth bags”).
• Even educated people today mistakenly believe there is only moral preference; Harris disagrees
• Well Being, like health, lies on a continuum defined by goals - both can be measured using science and reason as tools.
• Science can measure the best & worst possible lives (e.g., “women in cloth bags”).
Chapter TextChapter Text
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Chapter 2: “Good & Evil”
• Brain science of human cooperation is still a mystery!
• Our moral “blind spots” (e.g., genocide neglect)• Great cruelty comes from idea that humans
possess a soul independent of : genes, parents, culture, economics, disease, etc.
• How often does “evil” depend on a nutritional deficiency?
• When is our impulse for retribution profoundly flawed? (Aggression to outsiders HUs: 1; Chimps: 200x)
• Illusion of free will, moral realism, consequentialism, contractualism, etc.
• Brain science of human cooperation is still a mystery!
• Our moral “blind spots” (e.g., genocide neglect)• Great cruelty comes from idea that humans
possess a soul independent of : genes, parents, culture, economics, disease, etc.
• How often does “evil” depend on a nutritional deficiency?
• When is our impulse for retribution profoundly flawed? (Aggression to outsiders HUs: 1; Chimps: 200x)
• Illusion of free will, moral realism, consequentialism, contractualism, etc.
Chapter TextChapter Text
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Would we lose anything if we spoke of “well-being” instead of “right”, “good”, “moral”, “evil”, etc ?
Would we lose anything if we spoke of “well-being” instead of “right”, “good”, “moral”, “evil”, etc ?
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Chapter 3: “Belief”
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• “Belief formation is influenced by many sub-conscious processes (e.g., Soc. Sec. #’s & # MDs in San Francisco)
• Skeptics given L-DOPA are more likely to accept metaphysical reasons for natural phenomena.”
• “Belief formation is influenced by many sub-conscious processes (e.g., Soc. Sec. #’s & # MDs in San Francisco)
• Skeptics given L-DOPA are more likely to accept metaphysical reasons for natural phenomena.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYtYQ0a7btQ
• “Perhaps deception, even more than violence, is the chief enemy of human cooperation.”
• “Perhaps deception, even more than violence, is the chief enemy of human cooperation.”
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Chapter 4: “Religion” “Cannot be the source for moral truth”
• Even fundamentalists have to “edit the books”:
• Love neighbor as self • Stone any woman who’s
not a virgin on her wedding night
• Even fundamentalists have to “edit the books”:
• Love neighbor as self • Stone any woman who’s
not a virgin on her wedding night
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World Sciences World Religions
http://www.project-reason.org/gallery3/image/105/
Contradictions in the Bible
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Chapter 5: “The Future of Happiness”
• Hard problem: well-being & satisfaction depend on history: - drug addict or Oprah?
• Easier to speak of “moving up” or “moving down”
• “Happiness” Science finds: We very poorly: - remember past - perceive present - predict future
• Our experiencing self & remembering self often disagree!
• Hard problem: well-being & satisfaction depend on history: - drug addict or Oprah?
• Easier to speak of “moving up” or “moving down”
• “Happiness” Science finds: We very poorly: - remember past - perceive present - predict future
• Our experiencing self & remembering self often disagree!
Chapter TextChapter Text
tjz-14• Is it ethical to prolong minor suffering to create happier memories?• Is it ethical to prolong minor suffering to create happier memories?
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Comments by Steven PinkerHarvard Philosopher; Author, “How the Mind Works”
• Terrible reasons to believe what’s “right” & “wrong” are:
• Faith (belief without evidence)
• Subjective certainty• Scripture• Authority
• Science has informed advances in our morality:
• Torture• Racism
• Terrible reasons to believe what’s “right” & “wrong” are:
• Faith (belief without evidence)
• Subjective certainty• Scripture• Authority
• Science has informed advances in our morality:
• Torture• Racism
AgreesAgrees
• If “science” is ONLY biology, chemistry & physics, it’s necessary, but NOT sufficient, to determine right from wrong
• Reasoning (NOT science or religion) that brought about changes in our criminal justice system
• Only administer enough punishment to deter without a perverse incentive structure
• The worse the crime, the worse the punishment
• If “science” is ONLY biology, chemistry & physics, it’s necessary, but NOT sufficient, to determine right from wrong
• Reasoning (NOT science or religion) that brought about changes in our criminal justice system
• Only administer enough punishment to deter without a perverse incentive structure
• The worse the crime, the worse the punishment
ReservationsReservations
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Comments by Lawrence KraussPhysicist, The Origins Project, Author, “Quantum Man:
Richard Feynman’s Life in Science”
• Our morality is constrained by our biology AND the social contract• It’s impossible to define morality without science (=“secular empiricism”)• Science is the way to determine the consequences of our actions• Science ethos: honesty, openess, creativity, anti-authoritarianism, full
disclosure==a moral society• When humans behave irrationally it’s usually based on incomplete
information (e.g., Stem cell debate: Blastocysts cannot be used for reproduction; there is no “moment of conception” – huge number of steps between the union of sperm and egg and a new entity
• Questions science can ask & answer: • Is a woman safer if she’s in a cloth bag?• Is her self-worth improved?• Is she freer to manifest her capabilities as a human being?
• Our morality is constrained by our biology AND the social contract• It’s impossible to define morality without science (=“secular empiricism”)• Science is the way to determine the consequences of our actions• Science ethos: honesty, openess, creativity, anti-authoritarianism, full
disclosure==a moral society• When humans behave irrationally it’s usually based on incomplete
information (e.g., Stem cell debate: Blastocysts cannot be used for reproduction; there is no “moment of conception” – huge number of steps between the union of sperm and egg and a new entity
• Questions science can ask & answer: • Is a woman safer if she’s in a cloth bag?• Is her self-worth improved?• Is she freer to manifest her capabilities as a human being?
Agrees that:Agrees that:
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Comments by Simon BlackburnBertrand Russel Professor of Philosophy at Cambridge,
Author, “How to Read Hume”
• Empirical investigation is good idea
• We should be more charitable & loyal
• Recognize that charity often goes awry (e.g., Biafra food aid)
• Benefits come when values are tempered by science (e.g., male & female brain studies will help break down gender barriers)
• Empirical investigation is good idea
• We should be more charitable & loyal
• Recognize that charity often goes awry (e.g., Biafra food aid)
• Benefits come when values are tempered by science (e.g., male & female brain studies will help break down gender barriers)
AgreesAgrees
• Two kinds of mental states:• Beliefs: knowledge about the
world• Desires/Concerns: motivators
to change the world• Values reflect desires; things that
“must” be done• Difficulty: What IS human
flourishing? Drugged zombie?; Fool’s Paradise (Delusion)?; Suppressed desires (Stoic)?; Greediness?
• How to prioritize well-being of self vs family vs friends vs world?
• Two kinds of mental states:• Beliefs: knowledge about the
world• Desires/Concerns: motivators
to change the world• Values reflect desires; things that
“must” be done• Difficulty: What IS human
flourishing? Drugged zombie?; Fool’s Paradise (Delusion)?; Suppressed desires (Stoic)?; Greediness?
• How to prioritize well-being of self vs family vs friends vs world?
ReservationsReservations
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Let’s Dialog
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• What are the dimensions of human flourishing?• Do UU’s Seven Principles cover all the dimensions? • What risks does “faith” (belief without evidence) pose to human flourishing?
• What, if anything, should UUs do about “women in cloth bags”?
• Perhaps deception, even more than violence, is the chief enemy of human cooperation
• Is it ethical to prolong minor suffering to create happier memories?
• What else?
• What are the dimensions of human flourishing?• Do UU’s Seven Principles cover all the dimensions? • What risks does “faith” (belief without evidence) pose to human flourishing?
• What, if anything, should UUs do about “women in cloth bags”?
• Perhaps deception, even more than violence, is the chief enemy of human cooperation
• Is it ethical to prolong minor suffering to create happier memories?
• What else?
Possible Dialog Topics: RecapPossible Dialog Topics: Recap
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Dialog Topic: Dimensions of Human Flourishing & UU’s 7 Principles
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Moral actions to cultivate because they increase human flourishing: Health
• Physical: Eating/exercise habits keeping you at a healthy weight• Emotional: Thinking habits keeping you feeling good• Cognitive: Thinking habits keeping you thinking rationally• Sexual: All habits keeping you sexual satisfied
Financial• Spending habits keeping you out of debt
(Friendly & Healthy) Social & Political• Family: etc.• Friends: etc.• Neighbors: etc.• Churches, clubs, teams, … : etc.• Strangers: etc.
Environmental …(Unfriendly & Unhealthy) Social & Political
• e.g., Sociopaths = 3% Males, 1% Females …
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Dialog Topic: Human Flourishing & Declaration of Human Rights
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Moral actions to cultivate because they increase human flourishing: Health
• Physical: Eating/exercise habits keeping you at a healthy weight• Emotional: Thinking habits keeping you feeling good• Cognitive: Thinking habits keeping you thinking rationally• Sexual: All habits keeping you sexual satisfied
Financial• Spending habits keeping you out of debt
(Friendly & Healthy) Social & Political• Family: etc.• Friends: etc.• Neighbors: etc.• Churches, clubs, teams, … : etc.• Strangers: etc.
Environmental …(Unfriendly & Unhealthy) Social & Political
• e.g., Sociopaths = 3% Males, 1% Females …
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Dialog Topic: Human Flourishing & The Ten Commandments
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(“Immoral”?) Actions to avoid because they decrease human flourishing?: Health
• Physical: Eating/exercise habits keeping you from a healthy weight• Emotional: Thinking habits keeping you from feeling good• Cognitive: Thinking habits keeping you from thinking rationally• Sexual: All habits keeping you from sexual satisfaction
Financial• Spending habits keeping you in debt
(Friendly & Healthy) Social & Political• Family: etc.• Friends: etc.• Neighbors: etc.• Churches, clubs, teams, … : etc.• Strangers: etc.
Environmental …(Unfriendly & Unhealthy) Social & Political
• e.g., Sociopaths = 3% Males, 1% Females …
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The Moral Landscape: “Introduction”
• Better or worse human flourishing? - depends on facts about brain states, the world & behavior
• Values do derive from facts (e.g., DVD copies lead to measurable harm)
• Hume (“ought from is”) & Gould (“NOMA”) are simply mistaken.
• Better or worse human flourishing? - depends on facts about brain states, the world & behavior
• Values do derive from facts (e.g., DVD copies lead to measurable harm)
• Hume (“ought from is”) & Gould (“NOMA”) are simply mistaken.
Chapter TextChapter Text
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• What are the dimensions of human flourishing?• Do UU’s Seven Principles cover all the dimensions?
• What are the dimensions of human flourishing?• Do UU’s Seven Principles cover all the dimensions?
• Dennett: “If ‘ought’ cannot be derived from ‘is’, what can it be derived from?
• Moral truth: Theft is wrong because it harms human flourishing in measurable ways
• Nutritional truth: Eating sat. fat is wrong because it harms human bodies in measurable ways.
• Dennett: “If ‘ought’ cannot be derived from ‘is’, what can it be derived from?
• Moral truth: Theft is wrong because it harms human flourishing in measurable ways
• Nutritional truth: Eating sat. fat is wrong because it harms human bodies in measurable ways.
Chapter NotesChapter Notes
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Chapter 1: “Moral Truth”
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• A psychopath’s pleasures are NOT an “alternate morality”. Without empathy they cannot experience generalizable human flourishing.
• A psychopath’s pleasures are NOT an “alternate morality”. Without empathy they cannot experience generalizable human flourishing.
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Chapter 4: “Religion”
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• “Religion brings benefits to developing societies, but the happiest and most secure societies are the most secular
•Best predictor of social well-being is tolerance of differences (e.g., gays, lesbians, women, other religions, etc.). Tolerance does NOT flourish under orthodox religions.
•Religion is why we’re talking about gay marriage instead of a national energy policy.”
• “Religion brings benefits to developing societies, but the happiest and most secure societies are the most secular
•Best predictor of social well-being is tolerance of differences (e.g., gays, lesbians, women, other religions, etc.). Tolerance does NOT flourish under orthodox religions.
•Religion is why we’re talking about gay marriage instead of a national energy policy.”
Chapter 4 NotesChapter 4 Notes
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Outcomes for Human Flourishing: “The Moral Landscape”
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