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The Culture of Working in Primary Care

Scripts by Paul Barry

(in slide note section)

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What Does a Behavioral Health Patient  Look Like in a Primary Care Setting?

67 yo man recently widowed

43 yo woman drinks “a couple of glasses” of wine 

daily 

19 yo man “horrible stomach pain” when starts 

college

32 yo woman “can’t get up for 

work”

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What Does a Behavioral Health Patient  Look Like in a Primary Care Setting?

Distress67yo man recently widowed

Substance Use Disorder

43yo woman drinks ”a couple of glasses” of wine daily 

Social Anxiety Disorder19yo man “horrible stomach pain” when starts college

Major Depressive Disorder

32yo woman “can’t get up for work”

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Common Behavioral Health Presentations

Common Outpatient Psychiatry Presentations

• Mood disorders

• Anxiety disorders

• Substance use disorders

• Psychotic disorders

• Cognitive disorders

Common Primary Care Presentations

• Depression

• Anxiety

• Unexplained physical symptoms

• Somatic presentations & somatoform disorders

• Acute and chronic distress 

• Adjustment disorders

• Pain 

• Challenging patients

• Pet patients

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Culture Clash• Primary Care– Action culture• urgency, pace• immediate intervention• high access• refer to other providers for specialty care

• Specialty Behavioral Health– Narrative culture• in‐depth assessment • deep understanding• slower pace

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Life of a Busy PCPChallenges:• Large patient panels (1,500 –2,500)

• Fast paced: 20‐30 encounters / day

• Huge range of problems / responsibilities• Full range of medical, behavioral, social problems

•Acute care, chronic care, prevention

Ways to cope: • Focus:• What is the most serious?• What is practical to accomplish today?

• Diagnose and treat ‘over time’• Get help  TEAMWORK

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“Everything comes at me and I bat at the problem 

before me”  hard to keep track of what happens once 

treatments started 

Need practical solutions & effective 

communication COLLABORATIVE CARE

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Primary Care Presentations

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Range of Problems from Birth to Death• Annual exams/Well‐child visits• Skin disorders• Osteoarthritis and joint disorders• Back problems• Cholesterol problems• Upper respiratory conditions, excluding asthma• Anxiety, depression, and bipolar disorder• Chronic neurologic disorders;• High blood pressure;• Headaches and migraines• Diabetes8

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PCP Understanding of Collaborative Care is Critical

• May not know about Collaborative Care

• May not know your role in the team

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Why the PCP is important

• PCP recommendation is powerful– Introduce care manager and team roles

• Existing relationship as foundation

• PCP engages the whole patient– Integrated whole person care plan

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PCP Role: Diagnosis

Gather information

Exchange information

Generate a treatment 

plan

Provide intervention

• PCP may have long history with patient

• Refined over time

• Consult not always needed

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PCP Role: Treatment Adjustment

Complete response to 

initial treatment30% ‐ 50%

Need at least one change in treatment50% – 70%

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PCP “Toolkit” to Engage 

• Introductory Package of Materials for PCPs– Key recent research references – Descriptions of model and roles from PCP perspective

• Suggestions for “warm connection” language to introduce care manager, engage patients in care

• List of ideas for strategies to work with your PCPs

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Communication with PCPs

• Need a clear method– Notes in EHR, Copy of a note, other?

• Communicate significant changes in patient’s clinical and functional status or  care plan– Prioritize which changes need to be brought to the attention of the PCP

–Maintain enough contact so that they remember who you are, but no so much that they see you as a pest

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Communication: How and When?• Communication is key to team function!

• Consider modality – In person– Staff (MA or nurse)– Phone– Fax– Email (careful with 

confidential info)– EMR

• Frequency– Scheduled– As needed

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PCP

Patient CM PsychiatricConsultant

Other Behavioral

Health Clinicians

CoreProgram

Additional ClinicResources

OutsideResourcesSubstance Treatment, Vocational

Rehabilitation, CMHC, Other Community Resources

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Key Elements to Include When Talking to PCPs

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• Name and ONE sentence psychosocial history

• Baseline clinical measures– e.g., PHQ‐9 Score

• Provisional diagnosis; current symptoms

• Current treatment(s) and length of time– Symptoms that aren’t improving– Problematic side effects– Psychiatric consultant recommendations (if relevant)

• Question or purpose of communication

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Connecting the PCP and Psychiatric Consultant• Most of this is through notes and recommendation

• Can facilitate direct contacts

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Reality Check

• We’re asking a lot of primary care providers–Behavior change–Treatment to target ‐ new way of thinking• Chronic care management model

–PCP may or may not see value in new model• Two new team members may be viewed as external, not entirely under PCP control

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Effective Integration Requires Practice Change. 

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Getting Started in Your Primary Care Clinic 

• What’s your “elevator speech” for PCPs? 

• How will you build your working relationship with your PCPs?

• How will you share your role with the larger clinic team?

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