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Michael BuchananDeputy Chief Investment Officer
Trusting Our Convictions March 21, 2019
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Outlook for Fixed-Income Spread Sectors
Pessimism and fear held markets hostage for most of 2018. After a strong rebound year to date, what’s next?
Global growth and credit cycle prospects are not as dire as some would suggest
In our view, “carry” will be the theme in 2019
We are maintaining our overweight to spread products and looking to take advantage of relative value
opportunities across:
– Bank loans and collateralized loan obligations (CLOs)
– BBB rated investment-grade credit
– USD emerging markets
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EM USD Sovereign US Loans US High-Yield
Percent
Spread Sectors – Historical Yield Range (3 Years Ending February 2019)
Source: Bloomberg Barclays, J.P. Morgan, S&P Global Market Intelligence, a division of S&P Global Inc. As of 28 Feb 19
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2
3
4
5
Mortgage-Backed US Investment-Grade
Per
cent
28 Feb 1931 Dec 18
Strong Rebound in Risk Assets After Disappointing 2018
Historical Annual Excess Returns (bps)
2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019³
US Agency -110 238 72 19 97 -10 55 8 39 69 -6 9
US MBS -232 495 225 -106 91 98 40 -5 -11 52 -59 39
US ABS -2,223 2,496 169 52 246 24 53 44 95 92 13 38
US CMBS -3,274 2,960 1,501 47 841 97 108 -28 236 158 -39 114
US Investment-Grade Credit -1,786 1,990 192 -322 693 226 -18 -169 442 335 -280 222
US High-Yield Credit -3,832 5,955 974 -240 1,394 923 -112 -577 1,573 610 -358 590
US Bank Loan¹ -3,233 5,183 1,003 116 932 514 -119 -540 1,004 303 -177 374
Emerging Markets Local Currency² -2,037 2,506 768 -1,283 1,364 -538 -1,055 -1,690 864 1,334 -765 274
Source: Bloomberg Barclays, J.P. Morgan, S&P Global Market Intelligence, a division of S&P Global Inc.
Sectors represented by Bloomberg Barclays U.S. indices unless otherwise noted; all figures shown in basis points
¹S&P/LSTA Leveraged Performing Loan Index vs. 3-Month LIBOR.
²J.P. Morgan GBI-EM Global Diversified Index USD Unhedged.
³As of 28 Feb 19
Source: Bloomberg Barclays, J.P. Morgan, S&P Global Market Intelligence, a division of S&P Global Inc.
US Investment-Grade represented by Bloomberg Barclays US Credit Index
US High-Yield represented by Bloomberg Barclays US High-Yield Index
EM USD Sovereign represented by J.P. Morgan Emerging Market Bond Index Global (EMBI Global)
Mortgage-Backed represented by Bloomberg Barclays US MBS Index
US Loans represented by S&P/LSTA US Leveraged Loan Index
As of 28 Feb 19
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Markets Continue to Shrug Off Credit Cycle Concerns
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1.0
1.5
2.0
2.5
3.0
3.5
4.0
Dec 08 Dec 09 Dec 10 Dec 11 Dec 12 Dec 13 Dec 14 Dec 15 Dec 16 Dec 17 Dec 18
US
D
Growth of a Dollar
Bloomberg Barclays US Credit Index
Bloomberg Barclays US High Yield 2% Issuer Cap Index
J.P.Morgan GBI-EM Diversified Index (USD Unhedged)
S&P/LSTA Performing Loans Index
S&P 500 Index
Source: Bloomberg Barclays, J.P.Morgan, S&P. As of 28 Feb 19
Annualized
Total Return
13.98%
11.51%
9.06%
5.63%
3.79%
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OECD
Euro AreaUS
China
93
95
97
99
101
103
105
2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019
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posi
te L
eadi
ng In
dica
tor
OECD Composite Leading Indicator
Amplitude adjusted, long-term average = 100, Jan 2004 – Jan 2019Source: OECD (2019), Composite leading indicator (CLI) (indicator). doi: 10.1787/4a174487-en (Accessed on 19 March 2019). As of 31 Jan 19
Global Growth Turned Lower in 2018, but What’s Next?
OECD
Euro AreaUS
China
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95
97
99
101
103
105
2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019
Com
posi
te L
eadi
ng In
dica
tor
OECD Composite Leading Indicator
Amplitude adjusted, Long-term average = 100, Jan 2004 – Jan 2019Source: OECD (2019), Composite leading indicator (CLI) (indicator). doi: 10.1787/4a174487-en (Accessed on 19 March 2019). As of 31 Jan 19
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-0.5
0.0
0.5
1.0
1.5
40
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50
55
60
65
70
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
PercentIn
dex
Eurozone Impacted by Trade Woes and Brexit
Eurozone QoQ GDP (right)
Eurozone Composite PMI (left)
Source: IHS Markit, Haver, Western Asset. As of 31 Dec 18
Caixin Manufacturing PMI
Caixin Non-Manufacturing PMI
46
48
50
52
54
56
Feb 16 Aug 16 Feb 17 Aug 17 Feb 18 Aug 18 Feb 19
Inde
x
China Growth Supported by Fresh Stimulus Measures
Source: Bloomberg, Markit Economics. As of 28 Feb 19
98
99
100
101
2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019
Inde
x Le
vel
Financial Conditions Index
Source: Bloomberg. As of 28 Feb 19
Goldman SachsFinancial Conditions Index
Drivers of Global Growth – Are We at an Inflection Point?
-0.5
0.0
0.5
1.0
1.5
40
45
50
55
60
65
70
2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
PercentIn
dex
Eurozone Composite PMI vs. QoQ GDP
Eurozone QoQ GDP (right)
Eurozone Composite PMI (left)
Source: IHS Markit, Haver, Western Asset. As of 31 Dec 18
Eurozone Impacted by Trade Woes and Brexit US Financial Conditions Moderating
Tighter
Looser
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100
102
104
106
108
110
112
114
116
118
Dec 13 Dec 14 Dec 15 Dec 16 Dec 17 Dec 18
Inde
x
Tariff Fears Weighing on Global Trade ActivityMerchandise World Trade Volume Index (2013=100)
Source: CPB Netherlands Bureau of Policy Analysis. As of 31 Dec 18
Tariff Fears Weighing on Global Trade Activity
100
102
104
106
108
110
112
114
116
118
Dec 13 Dec 14 Dec 15 Dec 16 Dec 17 Dec 18
Inde
x
Tariff Fears Weighing on Global Trade ActivityMerchandise World Trade Volume Index (2013=100)
Source: CPB Netherlands Bureau of Policy Analysis. As of 31 Dec 18
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US (left)
China (left)
Germany (right)
0
0.1
0.2
0.3
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
2.5
2.7
2.9
3.1
3.3
3.5
3.7
3.9
4.1
Mar 18 Jun 18 Sep 18 Dec 18 Mar 19
Yield (%
)Yie
ld (
%)
10-Year Government Bonds – US, China, Germany
Source: Bloomberg. As of 19 Mar 19
Markets Are Reflecting Continued Policy Accommodation to Support Growth
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Evidence of Late-Cycle Behavior
Stripping Collateral
J Crew (Dec ‘16): Sent all intellectual property to an unrestricted subsidiary, removed from the collateral package
Radio One (Dec ‘16): Company’s stake in MGM was never restricted but viewed as a credit enhancer, but now that stake is
rumored to be taken away
Petsmart (Jun ‘18): Subsidiary Chewy.com–growth part of the business, 40% of Chewy.com sent through restricted payment
basket as dividend to the equity sponsor
Neiman Marcus (Sep ‘18): Subsidiary My Theresa–fastest growing platform, was made into an unrestricted subsidiary, then
sent as a dividend to parent company and no longer part of the loan collateral package
Refinitive (Sep ‘18): New syndicated loan deal whereby the company can sell 40% of assets without being required to pay
down debt
Envision (Sep ‘18): Newly syndicated deal had a clause allowing assets to be sent as dividends without paying back
noteholders
Rentpath (Oct ‘18): Apartment rental company with a strong online presence–rumored to be making web domain names
unrestricted subsidiaries to be used as collateral for subordinated debt or as a dividend
Power Solutions (Mar ‘19): High-profile LBO transaction that allows sponsors to transfer intellectual property to unrestricted
subsidiaries. EBITDA definition includes add-back for expected revenue from contract renegotiation
Questionable use of lines of credit/revolvers:
Parexel (Sep ‘17): Company paid equity sponsors a $300mm dividend that was funded by drawing on the revolver which is
unusual
Most equity-sponsored deals allow generous use of the restricted payment basket to take assets.
Considering how loose the EBITDA adjustment language has gotten, there is elevated risk of assets
being removed from collateral packages.
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Credit Suisse Leveraged Loan Index
Credit Suisse High Yield Index
5.5
6.0
6.5
7.0
7.5
8.0
8.5
9.0
9.5
10.0
Jan 16 Apr 16 Jul 16 Oct 16 Jan 17 Apr 17 Jul 17 Oct 17 Jan 18 Apr 18 Jul 18 Oct 18 Jan 19
Per
cent
Credit Suisse Leveraged Loan Index and High Yield Index – Historical Yield to Worst
Source: Credit Suisse. As of 28 Feb 19
Bank Loan Valuations Look Attractive Relative to High-Yield
Since 1992, high-yield has historically had a YTW with 110 bps premium over leveraged loans and 106 bps spread
over loans driven by a higher risk profile due to unsecured, subordinated position in capital structure relative to loans
Loans currently
yield 11 bps
premium to
high-yield
bonds
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-30
-20
-10
0
10
20
30
40
50
2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Per
cent
Steady Quarterly EBITDA Growth
Source: S&P/LSTA, LCD. As of 31 Dec 18
Leveraged Loans: Fundamental Backdrop Has Remained Steady
-30
-20
-10
0
10
20
30
40
50
2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Per
cent
Steady Quarterly EBITDA Growth
Source: S&P/LSTA, LCD. As of 31 Dec 18
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Average
0
100
200
300
400
500
600
700
800
2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019
Bas
is P
oint
s
Difference Between BB CLO and High-Yield Spreads
Source: Bloomberg, J.P. Morgan. As of 28 Feb 19
CLOs Now Offer Value Relative to High-Yield
Spreads 03 Oct 18 31 Dec 18 28 Feb 19 Q4 Chg YTD Chg Retracement¹
CLO AAA 110 145 137 35 -8 23%
IG Corp 99 143 114 44 -29 66%
CMBS AAA 72 106 90 34 -16 47%
CLO BBB 295 407 373 112 -34 30%
CLO BB 601 748 703 147 -46 31%
Bank Loans 355 468 399 113 -69 61%
High Yield 303 526 379 223 -147 66%
CMBS BBB 240 420 300 180 -120 67%
Source: Bloomberg, J.P. Morgan. As of 28 Feb 19
¹Compares spread changes during 4Q18 period and YTD 28 Feb 19.
Average
0
100
200
300
400
500
600
700
800
2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019
Bas
is P
oint
s
Difference Between BB CLO and High-Yield Spreads
Source: Bloomberg, J.P. Morgan. As of 28 Feb 19
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2018 "BBB Glut" to 2019 "Debt Diet"30 Largest BBB Issuers
Source: Bloomberg, Western Asset. As of 18 Mar 19
Ticker Company Name Index Rating
Total IG Index Debt,
(USD, billions)
US IG Index
Weight (%) Industry Leverage Trend
Management Explicitly
Stated Leverage Target
1 T AT&T Baa2 $99.6 1.6 Wireline Lower Yes
2 VZ Verizon Communications Baa1 $73.1 1.2 Wireline Stable Yes
3 CVS CVS Health Baa2 $66.2 1.1 Health Care Lower Yes
4 ABIBB Anheuser-Busch Inbev Baa1 $64.1 1.0 Food & Beverage Lower Yes
5 GE General Electric Baa1 $45.4 0.7 Diversified Manufacturing Lower Yes
6 GM General Motors Baa2 $41.2 0.7 Automotive Stable No
7 CHTR Charter Communications Baa3 $37.7 0.6 Cable Satellite Stable Yes
8 ABBV Abbvie Baa2 $33.2 0.5 Pharmaceuticals Stable No
9 F Ford Motor Baa2 $33.1 0.5 Automotive Higher No
10 CI Cigna Baa2 $32.7 0.5 Health Care Insurance Lower No
11 ETP Energy Transfer Baa3 $29.9 0.5 Midstream Lower Yes
12 UTX United Technologies Baa1 $29.3 0.5 Aerospace/Defense Lower No
13 KMI Kinder Morgan Baa2 $26.6 0.5 Midstream Lower Yes
14 AMGN Amgen Inc Baa1 $25.0 0.4 Pharmaceuticals Stable No
15 BATSLN Bristish American Tobacco Baa2 $24.9 0.4 Tobacco Lower Yes
16 DWDP DowDupont Baa2 $24.5 0.4 Chemical Stable No
17 EPD Enterprise Products Partners Baa1 $23.9 0.4 Midstream Lower Yes
18 MO Altria Group Baa2 $22.0 0.3 Tobacco Lower No
19 UNP Union Pacific Baa1 $21.6 0.3 Railroad Higher No
20 KHC Kraft Heinz Baa3 $21.5 0.3 Food & Beverage Lower Yes
21 WMB Williams Cos Baa2 $20.8 0.3 Midstream Lower Yes
22 CELG Celgene Baa2 $19.6 0.3 Pharmaceuticals Lower No
23 VOD Vodafone Group Baa1 $17.9 0.3 Wireless Higher No
24 MCD McDonald's Baa1 $17.9 0.3 Restaurants Stable No
25 AGN Allergan Baa3 $16.7 0.3 Pharmaceuticals Lower Yes
26 DELL Dell Technologies Baa3 $16.3 0.3 Technology Stable No
27 ANTM Anthem Baa2 $16.1 0.3 Health Care Insurance Higher No
28 TACHEM Takeda Pharmaceutical Baa2 $16.0 0.3 Pharmaceuticals Stable Yes
29 ABT Abbott Laboratories Baa2 $15.1 0.3 Pharmaceuticals Lower Yes
30 AVGO Broadcom Baa3 $14.8 0.2 Technology Stable No
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-28
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-1
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0
-4
-4
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0
0
-100 -80 -60 -40 -20 0 20 40 60 80 100 120
US Banks
Energy
Non-US Banks
Basic Industries
Property/Real Estate
Insurance
Automotive
Finance Companies
Media/Entertainment
Transportation
Utilities
Retail
Technology
Healthcare/Pharma
Consumer
Capital Goods
Telecoms
2018 Upgrades Concentrated in Banks, Energy and Metals
Downgrades (incl Fallen Angels)
Upgrades (incl Rising Stars)
USD (billions)Source: J.P. Morgan. As of 31 Dec 18
Where Do We See Value Within Corporate Credit?
0
-4
-28
-2
-1
-4
0
-4
-4
-14
-32
-20
-35
-67
-68
-69
-74
94
64
70
20
9
10
3
6
2
9
17
3
16
23
8
0
0
-100 -80 -60 -40 -20 0 20 40 60 80 100 120
US Banks
Energy
Non-US Banks
Basic Industries
Property/Real Estate
Insurance
Automotive
Finance Companies
Media/Entertainment
Transportation
Utilities
Retail
Technology
Healthcare/Pharma
Consumer
Capital Goods
Telecoms
2018 Upgrades Concentrated in Banks, Energy and Metals
Downgrades (incl Fallen Angels)
Upgrades (incl Rising Stars)
USD (billions)Source: J.P. Morgan. As of 31 Dec 18
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3M Hedging Cost (left)
3.01%
IG Hedged Yield Spread (right)
83 bps
-80
20
120
220
320
420
520
620
720
-2.00%
-1.00%
0.00%
1.00%
2.00%
3.00%
4.00%
2009 2011 2013 2015 2017 2019
IG H
edged Yield S
pread (bps)
Hed
ge C
ost –
Eur
o
US IG Credit Hedged Back to EUR
Source: Bloomberg. As of 01 Mar 19
3M Hedging Cost (left)
2.84%
IG Hedged Yield Spread (right)
89 bps
0
50
100
150
200
250
0.00%
0.50%
1.00%
1.50%
2.00%
2.50%
3.00%
3.50%
2013 2014 2015 2015 2016 2016 2017 2017 2018 2019
IG H
edged Yield S
pread (bps)
Hed
ge C
ost –
JPY
US IG Credit Hedged Back to JPY
Source: Bloomberg. As of 01 Mar 19
Investment-Grade Credit: Hedging-Cost Headwinds Expected to Diminish
3M Hedging Cost (left)
3.01%
IG Hedged Yield Spread (right)
83 bps
-80
20
120
220
320
420
520
620
720
-2.00%
-1.00%
0.00%
1.00%
2.00%
3.00%
4.00%
2009 2011 2013 2015 2017 2019
IG H
edged Yield S
pread (bps)
Hed
ge C
ost –
Eur
o
US IG Credit Hedged Back to EUR
Source: Bloomberg. As of 01 Mar 19
3M Hedging Cost (left)
2.84%
IG Hedged Yield Spread (right)
89 bps
0
50
100
150
200
250
0.00%
0.50%
1.00%
1.50%
2.00%
2.50%
3.00%
3.50%
2013 2014 2015 2015 2016 2016 2017 2017 2018 2019
IG H
edged Yield S
pread (bps)
Hed
ge C
ost –
JPY
US IG Credit Hedged Back to JPY
Source: Bloomberg. As of 01 Mar 19
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EM Local
EM USD
5.0
5.5
6.0
6.5
7.0
7.5
Mar 16 Sep 16 Mar 17 Sep 17 Mar 18 Sep 18 Mar 19
Per
cent
EM USD vs. Local Market Yields
Source: J.P. Morgan. As of 19 Mar 19EM USD represented by J.P. Morgan Emerging Markets Bond Index Global (EMBI Global)EM Local represented by J.P. Morgan Government Bond-Emerging Market Index (GBI-EM) Global Diversified
Fundamentals and Valuations Support the Case for Emerging Markets Debt
Developed Markets
Emerging Markets
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
Mar 16 Aug 16 Jan 17 Jun 17 Nov 17 Apr 18 Sep 18 Feb 19
Inde
x Le
vel
Manufacturing PMI
Source: Bloomberg, IHS Markit. As of 28 Feb 19
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Corporate Gross Leverage¹
Household Financial Obligations Ratio²
0.5
0.6
0.7
0.8
0.9
1.0
1.1
1.2
1.3
1.4
1.5
1997 2000 2003 2006 2009 2012 2015 2018
Mul
tiple
*
Source: BAML, Federal Reserve, Western Asset. As of 30 Sep 18¹Non-financial gross debt/EBITDA.²Household debt to total disposable income in the United States.*Multiple of long-term average.
Consumer vs. Corporate LeverageConsumers Have Reduced Debt While Corporations Have Increased Borrowing
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0
200
400
600
800
1,000
1,200
Commercial RealEstate Transitional
Loan Mezz
Non-AgencyResidential MBS
B
Non-AgencyResidential MBS
CCC
Non-AgencyCommercial MBS
BBB-
High-YieldIndices
B
High-YieldIndices
BB
2 6 8 10 5 6
Spr
ead
(bps
)
28 Feb 19 24-Month Minimum 24-Month Maximum
Commercial and Residential Credit Bonds Offer Attractive Spreads and Diversification
Source: BofA Merrill Lynch Global Research, Markit Partners, Western Asset. As of 28 Feb 19
¹WAL = Weighted Average Life
WAL (yrs)¹ 2 5 8 610 5
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Outlook for Fixed-Income Spread Sectors
Pessimism and fear held markets hostage for most of 2018. After a strong rebound year to date, what’s next?
Global growth and credit cycle prospects are not as dire as some would suggest
In our view, “carry” will be the theme in 2019
We are maintaining our overweight to spread products and looking to take advantage of relative value
opportunities
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Questions & Answers
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Thank you.
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