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Swiss made? Tell me I didn't make a mistake.
I always wanted a Swiss Made automatic. Sunday I was excited to purchase a
http://m.shopnbc.com/mt/www.shopnbc....5&track=-80400 After the purchase I did some
research and found that Invicta was under investigation for tagging SM on watches that did
not qualify the title. Did I make a mistake? Is this a real SM watch? I don't come here
much, so please school me on what's going on with this situation.
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Where did you see Invicta was under investigation?
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Welcome to the forum. A while ago there was some "confusion" with Invicta's Swiss made
tag. As far as I know, (and believe me, ifI am am mistaken others will correct me), that
issue has been rectified. Swiss made means, among other things, that the movement is
Swiss,at least51% of the value of the watch is Swiss, and the final assembly and inspection
is done in Switzerland. I would, and do, have confidence that any Invicta produced over the
past year, meets these basic standards. I am unaware of any impending investigation based
on past practice. In other words, I would be confident that you purchased a Swiss made
product, meeting the criteria stated previously. Enjoy the watch. It is a beauty!
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I did not catch that...if Invicta were to put a Swiss Made label
that does not conform to the standards governed under:
Ordonnance du 23 décembre 1971 réglant l’utilisation du nom
«Suisse» pour les montres then yes the would be in violation of
said law...that being said here are some links which should
shed some light on this subject..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Made#Overview
http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/c232_119.html
As to whether Invicta has been investigated for violation of
said law..who knows..
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Originally Posted by watchyourtimeco
Where did you see Invicta was under investigation?
I have the same question.
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Interpol...just kidding..could you please cite your sources or is
this just a rumor through cyberspace..
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I'm sorry, I worded it wrong. When I surfed the net there were negative opinions and
accusations directed at invicta in reference to this claim. Sorry.
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I'm sorry, I worded it wrong. When I surfed the net there were negative opinions and
accusations directed at invicta in reference to this claim. Sorry.
You almost started a war! LOL
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I'm sorry, I worded it wrong. When I surfed the net there were negative opinions and
accusations directed at invicta in reference to this claim. Sorry.
lol you will find that everywhere, mostly those ppl that say things like that are mad because
the over pay for things and try to bash brands that give good deals for good quality.
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the confusion was for the term Swiss, not Swiss Made. Swiss Made will always mean Swiss
Made
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You almost started a war! LOL
lol yea i agree john, and it was only his first post!!!!
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My understanding is that Invicta sells "SWISS MADE" watches that are compliant with all
rules and regulations that accompany those two words.
I have not heard of them being under any sort of investigation.
I would however like to know fact from fiction, as a fan of the brand and a member on 2
other watch forums. Please feel free to reveal your source of information... WG is (by far)
the most friendly watch community on the www.
Oh yeah... welcome to WG, guard your wallet from the "Hot Deals" section
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This has been an ongoing topic for quite awhile and you will find those on both sides of the
fence saying the others are wrong.
If you feel you have purchased a Swiss Made watch because that is what you believe and
that is what it says on the dial than you have purchased a Swiss Made watch.
If you feel that you have not purchased a Swiss Made watch than no, its not a Swiss Made
watch.
There has been watches that were marked as "Swiss" that had been promoted and sold as
"Swiss Made" since they both mean the same thing only to the cases opened and have Asian
made movements inside them. At this point there was a new definition of "Swiss" and "Swiss
Made" given by the manufacture.
You must also remember that whatever rules and regulations the Swiss Federation or the
Swiss government has does not apply. IWG is not a Swiss company and they do not belong
to the Swiss Ferderation so none of those rules apply or can be enforcred.
If you believe you have a Swiss Made watch than you have a Swiss Made watch, if you have
any doubt at all send it back the minute you get it.
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You didn't make a mistake. Invicta has factories in Switzerland. This is a first line Invicta
product.
There are some people who have a hobby of bashing Invicta. There are some forums where
saying something positive about Invicta will start a flame war. There are rumors of many
investigations, court cases, law suits and such, but to my knowledge they don't pan out to
be true when you ask for evidence.
That particular watch is a good Invicta to get, IMHO, because it is an original Invicta design;
there is no other watch like it. Some Invictas are knock offs of other brands' designs, but
never exact replicas.
The Swiss watch industry is vigorous about defending the value of the Swiss Made brand.
Enjoy your new Coalition Forces watch. It's something like nothing else.
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<snip> You must also remember that whatever rules and regulations the Swiss Federation
or the Swiss government has does not apply. IWG is not a Swiss company and they do
not belong to the Swiss Ferderation so none of those rules apply or can be
enforcred.<snip>
Not true.
1. In the U.S., the use of "Swiss Made" on a watch is controlled by the Swiss Federation via
their USPTO registered trademark of "Swiss Made". In order to legally use the mark, whether
you're a member of the federation or not, the federation's standards for "Swiss Made" must
be followed. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...07:k0oeug.2.10
2. "Swiss" at the 6 position when used on a watch must comply with U.S. Customs
Regulations, 19 CFR Part 177 Chapter 91 that requires the movement used in the watch to
be from the country of origin placed on the dial. So at a minimum, a watch so labeled should
have a movement made in Switzerland. This of course presumes the manufacturer in
question is following U.S. Custom's law.
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First post and already he is starting trouble...i say we throw him off the forum.just kidding
and welcome my friend. That is what makes this place so cool. Alot of guys who know what
they talking about where you can get answers.
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I've seen pictures, on Facebook sites, that show Invicta Watches (saying Swiss Made)
opened up and some have swiss made movements and some don't.
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I, myself, started a thread asking about the word "Swiss" on one of my SASs, confused as to
why all the other Reserve pieces I had said "Swiss Made" and this one said simply "Swiss".
The breakdown of the whole "Swiss" vs "Swiss Made" controversy is as such.
If your watch has the words "Swiss Made" printed on the dial, you have a watch that
conforms to the trademark laws concerning that term, which means it is a "Swiss Made"
watch as determined by the Swiss Federation.
If your watch has only the word "Swiss" printed on the dial, that watch is not a Swiss Made
watch and could contain purely Asian parts, Italian parts, Swiss parts, or any combination of
parts from any country.
If you buy an Invicta watch with the words "Swiss Made" written on the dial, you have
bought a "Swiss Made" watch, as defined by the trademark laws governing the "Swiss Made"
brand. In other words, in regards to the Automatic Coalition Forces, no worries.
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Originally Posted by trip_67
I've seen pictures, on Facebook sites, that show Invicta Watches (saying Swiss Made)
opened up and some have swiss made movements and some don't.
Are you sure?
The FB pics I saw were posted ~ 2 months ago and had:
"Swiss Movt" on the dial and "Swiss Parts Movement" on the case back of a womans' Lupah
that had a Chinese movement.
"SWISS" on a Russian diver that had an Asian movement.
None of the watch movements pictured had "SWISS MADE" on the dial or case. My memory
could be fading though, it was a while ago when those pics surfaced.
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As I said above there are those on both sides of the fence on this topic and there is allot of
information out there that contradicts the contradictions of the contradicted contradicts.
Overall it is a quagmire of a question and after reading and digesting all the information you
can find only you can honestly answer your own question but please when you answer it also
take into consideration the integrity of both the sources and also of the company your asking
about, both at times could be considered lacking at best.
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2. "Swiss" at the 6 position when used on a watch must comply with U.S. Customs
Regulations, 19 CFR Part 177 Chapter 91 that requires the movement used in the watch to
be from the country of origin placed on the dial. So at a minimum, a watch so labeled
should have a movement made in Switzerland. This of course presumes the manufacturer
in question is following U.S. Custom's law.
This is actually incorrect, as well. A watch company can put any wording on the dial they
wish. I, personally, have opened some of the "Swiss" and "Swiss Made" watches I own.
Universally, each and every watch I opened with the words "Swiss Made" on the dial had a
Swiss movement. Adversely, each and every watch I opened (not all Invicta's) with only the
word "Swiss" on the dial had an Asian movement. This isn't to say all watches with "Swiss"
on the dial have Asian movements. Only the 10 or so I opened had Asian movements.
Quote:
Originally Posted by trip_67
I've seen pictures, on Facebook sites, that show Invicta Watches (saying Swiss Made)
opened up and some have swiss made movements and some don't.
I have seen watches with the word "Swiss" on the dial proven to have Asian movements, as
I stated above. However, I have never seen, nor tested myself, a "Swiss Made" watch with
anything other than a Swiss Made movement. If you know otherwise, please post pictures or
a link so we can see this for ourselves.
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God I hope this Swiss fight is on PPV I got to set my DVR..Lets
see if we can surpass the Invicta Reserve Men's Scuba
799.71..at 13 pages...common guys we can do it
LOL
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"Swiss Made" means exactly that. If Invicta marks a watch in that way then it meets the
criteria for swiss made. "Swiss", "Swiss Parts" is not Swiss made. Enjoy your stay at
watchgeeks, once you make your way around the site search foir Swiss Made and you will
know why everyone around here groans when some one brings up that topic again. Were all
still exhausted from the last go around
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If you go to google and put " Vic Invicta " in the search bar, and tap, his name will come up.
He's under investigation for running a po___o ring out of a small hotel just outside of Paris,
Ohio ..
but The Invicta Watch Group is clean ............................... welcome to the forum.
Best, Blue
........... just kiddin' ... or am I ? .. Blue
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Got to love WG....
You guys crack me up. This is why I dig WG. You get many sides and everyone is cool about
it. Rock on WG.
PS: to me SWISS MADE is all SWISS
SWISS I am not sure anymore.
Anyway have fun collecting.
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Originally Posted by Flyback
2. "Swiss" at the 6 position when used on a watch must comply with U.S. Customs
Regulations, 19 CFR Part 177 Chapter 91 that requires the movement used in the watch
to be from the country of origin placed on the dial. So at a minimum, a watch so labeled
should have a movement made in Switzerland. This of course presumes the manufacturer
in question is following U.S. Custom's law.
This is actually incorrect, as well. A watch company can put any wording on the dial they
wish. I, personally, have opened some of the "Swiss" and "Swiss Made" watches I own.
Universally, each and every watch I opened with the words "Swiss Made" on the dial had a
Swiss movement. Adversely, each and every watch I opened (not all Invicta's) with only
the word "Swiss" on the dial had an Asian movement. This isn't to say all watches with
"Swiss" on the dial have Asian movements. Only the 10 or so I opened had Asian
movements.
I have seen watches with the word "Swiss" on the dial proven to have Asian movements,
as I stated above. However, I have never seen, nor tested myself, a "Swiss Made" watch
with anything other than a Swiss Made movement. If you know otherwise, please post
pictures or a link so we can see this for ourselves.
My statement is factually/legally correct and reflects the country of origin labeling requirements as set fourth in U.S. Customs and Border Protection Publication 0000-0539, revised December 2004. Simply because one or more companies choses to not follow the regulations doesn't invalidate the law.
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With or without salt and of course extra butter right?
If I buy the jumbo size, can I get a refill?
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Swiss made is suppose to be swiss made
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You didn't make a mistake. Invicta has factories in Switzerland. This is a first line Invicta
product.
There are some people who have a hobby of bashing Invicta. There are some forums
where saying something positive about Invicta will start a flame war. There are rumors of
many investigations, court cases, law suits and such, but to my knowledge they don't pan
out to be true when you ask for evidence.
That particular watch is a good Invicta to get, IMHO, because it is an original Invicta
design; there is no other watch like it. Some Invictas are knock offs of other brands'
designs, but never exact replicas.
The Swiss watch industry is vigorous about defending the value of the Swiss Made brand.
Enjoy your new Coalition Forces watch. It's something like nothing else.
Well said
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Can you tell me if this is Swiss Made.
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Can you tell me if this is Swiss Made.
Ken,
I will let you know after I do a full examination
of the product.....
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My statement is factually/legally correct and reflects the country of origin labeling requirements as set fourth in U.S. Customs and Border Protection Publication 0000-0539, revised December 2004. Simply because one or more companies choses to not follow the regulations doesn't invalidate the law.
Yes, thanks Brad. Just so everyone knows, Brad has made many a post on this topic with
factual and accurate information. Let's make certain we are citing what the law is and not
what we may prefer to believe. This whole "Swiss Made" thing does not need to be so
complicated. It becomes complicated when people begin to parse words or otherwise
interwine their own "interpretation" of controlling legal codes.
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Ken,
I will let you know after I do a full examination
of the product.....
LOL
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what does it mean to have Swiss on the dial and case back, I have 4 LP Italy watches that
have these markings and their website says these are the Swiss Made watches
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2. "Swiss" at the 6 position when used on a watch must comply with U.S. Customs
Regulations, 19 CFR Part 177 Chapter 91 that requires the movement used in the watch to
be from the country of origin placed on the dial. So at a minimum, a watch so labeled
should have a movement made in Switzerland. This of course presumes the manufacturer
in question is following U.S. Custom's law.
So does this not qualify because it is not labeled at the 6 posision?
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Swiss Made= Swiss Made... No worries with your watch buddy!
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I believe the Lp watches I have are Swiss made but I liked the watches from the LP
Marenello collection because of their looks and the are high quality so if they only
have Swiss Movements who cares
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There are watches that meet the bare minimum of requirements to be called "Swiss Made"
and there are those with substantially more actual Swiss manufactured content. Both are
legitimately and lawfully labeled "Swiss Made". Get to know your manufacturers.
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So does this not qualify because it is not labeled at the 6 posision?
I'm not familiar with how that watch is labeled, however all watches imported into the
country must follow U.S. Customs country of origin labeling regulations.
You can see from the excerpt copied below from the CBP publication referenced above that
the labeling can be done on the case back instead of the dial:
Watches and clocks are also subject to the normal country of origin marking requirements of
19 U.S.C. 1304, and under these requirements, the movement’s country of origin
should appear conspicuously and legibly on the dial face or on the outside of the
back.
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Today, 02:25 PM
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Thanks, this is interesting
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Quote:
Originally Posted by krayziehustler
the confusion was for the term Swiss, not Swiss Made. Swiss Made will always mean Swiss
Made
At one time, I would have agreed with you on this particular point! ... However, after a bit of research, I'm now convinced that even THIS "issue is in doubt!"
_______________ ⌘ _______________ FYI, many websites (.ch and otherwise!) validate the premise ... ... that "SWISS" and "SWISS MADE" are interchangeable ... ... anywhere on the watch, front, back, side, you-name-it!
_______________ ⌘ _______________ Of course, I ALSO believe that all of this inconsistent-labeling and '51%'- obfuscation ... ... will, ultimately, simply annihilate the mid-to-low-end watch biz for the Swiss ... ... esp. as the Chinese seem more than ready, willing, & able ...
... to gobble up MORE than just their 'fair' market share!
_______________ ⌘ _______________ FINALLY! - I wouldn't worry one iota about your new watch ... ... given the current state of flux of the watch industry, per se, it's as 'compliant' as it can be! ... just my 2¢ on this never-ending topic! d'oh!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kramer5150
Are you sure?
The FB pics I saw were posted ~ 2 months ago and had:
"Swiss Movt" on the dial and "Swiss Parts Movement" on the case back of a womans' Lupah
that had a Chinese movement.
"SWISS" on a Russian diver that had an Asian movement.
None of the watch movements pictured had "SWISS MADE" on the dial or case. My
memory could be fading though, it was a while ago when those pics surfaced.
I might be wrong, but placing "SWISS" (anywhere) on a watch ...
... that has an Asian Movement is a serious "No!!!-No!!!" ...
... THAT might land someone in a lot of hot water!
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Curious as to where the "51%" is coming from. It keeps popping up. According to the official
Federation Horlogerie website, the requirement for "Swiss Made" movement designation is
50% of the value less labor.
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Today, 03:31 PM
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Curious as to where the "51%" is coming from. It keeps popping up. According to the
official Federation Horlogerie website, the requirement for "Swiss Made" movement
designation is 50% of the value less labor.
That is the most frequent bit of misinformation that I see repeated here and
elsewhere. You're right about it being 50% and that percentage applies "only" to
the movement.
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Battery change on an S1 in my collection. I know it's Swiss Made for sure beacause she put
the stamp on the movement.
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I did a Swiss Made Russian Diver and found everything in order. SWISS stamped nicely on
the Ronda movement.
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HAHAHA!! Just kidding!
Trying to lighten the mood
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WTF! This guy has only had 2 postings and he's already ripping Invicta. Just
another troll.
Please let me know if I'm outta line on my comment. Genezilla
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WTF! This guy has only had 2 postings and he's already ripping Invicta. Just another troll.
Please let me know if I'm outta line on my comment.
Your suspicion certainly has merit. We welcome all new members until they prove they are
just here to stir the pot. The members have set the record straight thus far. We have far too
many threads explaining this really rather simple concept for this to devolve into another 10
pages of non-sense.
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Your suspicion certainly has merit. We welcome all new members until they prove they are
just here to stir the pot. The members have set the record straight thus far. We have far
too many threads explaining this really rather simple concept for this to devolve into
another 10 pages of non-sense.
I agree..I guess we'll have to wait and see what "Tour-Billion" posts next, if anything at
all..Most likely a troll IMO
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the confusion was for the term Swiss, not Swiss Made. Swiss Made will always mean Swiss
Made
Exactly....
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Welcome to the forum. A while ago there was some "confusion" with Invicta's Swiss made
tag. As far as I know, (and believe me, ifI am am mistaken others will correct me), that
issue has been rectified. Swiss made means, among other things, that the movement is
Swiss,at least51% of the value of the watch is Swiss, and the final assembly and inspection
is done in Switzerland. I would, and do, have confidence that any Invicta produced over
the past year, meets these basic standards. I am unaware of any impending investigation
based on past practice. In other words, I would be confident that you purchased a Swiss
made product, meeting the criteria stated previously. Enjoy the watch. It is a beauty!
Larry
Welcome Tourb, Larry is correct to the letter here. Lots of Invicta bashers in the world but I
think most of them just don't get it. Tons of choices for them other than Invicta but as to
your purchase, its as labled, Swiss Made and I hope it makes you see what Invicta is about.
Always do your homework and buy from well recommanded sites and feel free to share your
questions, feedback and experiences here.
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WTF! This guy has only had 2 postings and he's already ripping Invicta. Just another troll.
Please let me know if I'm outta line on my comment.
OK Genezilla and Watchdude1. You don't know me and I am offended by the troll name
calling. I came here for help and did not bash Invicta or anybody else. I own 10 Invicta
watches and 10 watches from other high end brands. I also belonged to this forum a couple
years back under a different name but forgot my info. So I re-joined under a new name. I
don't spend my entire life on internet forums, so if I missed info about Invicta and the Swiss
Made controversy then I am sorry. I liked this watch and bought it on impulse. After a little
research I found a pretty good amount of negative feedback. So I came here, to Invicta
people for reassurance and then called a troll. Hey, thanks for the help. You made me feel
better after reading your responses I'll be sure to come right back for answers to my
future questions
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#62
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Been with Invicta for over four years now. Have seen all the "stuff" written about them. I
personally have never questioned their validity. I know there has been alot of issues, and I
can't imagine what a guy like Eyal Lalo goes through. If anybody from Invicta sees this
thread...I know they are all very approachable. Personally, I got the new Reserve automatic
scooby (Scuba) without hesitation. I don't think you'll be disappointed with the product. But
again, before all the posts start, this is my experience, and my opinion. Best of luck!!
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Easy, Boy! Stick around. Please note that most took your OP at face value, and
tried to help with solid info. Hang in, participate, and contibute. Or, leave now and
prove 'em right.
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Easy, Boy! Stick around. Please note that most took your OP at face value, and
tried to help with solid info. Hang in, participate, and contibute. Or, leave now
and prove 'em right.
Good point Bill..
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Not true.
1. In the U.S., the use of "Swiss Made" on a watch is controlled by the Swiss Federation via
their USPTO registered trademark of "Swiss Made". In order to legally use the mark,
whether you're a member of the federation or not, the federation's standards for "Swiss
Made" must be followed. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...07:k0oeug.2.10
2. "Swiss" at the 6 position when used on a watch must comply with U.S. Customs
Regulations, 19 CFR Part 177 Chapter 91 that requires the movement used in the watch to
be from the country of origin placed on the dial. So at a minimum, a watch so labeled
should have a movement made in Switzerland. This of course presumes the manufacturer
in question is following U.S. Custom's law.
Brad is this really you? ............................
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Brad is this really you? ............................
?? . . . Yes, it's really me.
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?? . . . Yes, it's really me.
Nice to see you back !
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