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TUESDAY, 16 FEBRUARY 2016
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PROCEEDINGS AT JOINT SITTING
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Members of the National Assembly and the National Council of
Provinces assembled in the Chamber of the National Assembly at
14:06.
The Speaker of the National Assembly took the Chair.
The Speaker of the National Assembly requested members to observe
a moment of silence for prayer or meditation.
DEBATE ON THE PRESIDENT’S STATE OF THE NATION ADDRESS
The SPEAKER: Order! Before I ask the Secretary to read the Order
of the Day ... Just in case you were wondering whether we were
ever going to come in: we had a ride up to the fifth floor,
courtesy of the parliamentary lift, and then, when it was coming
back, it stopped at every floor. Therefore, our apologies. The
Secretary will read the Order of the Day.
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The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: Hon
Speaker ...
The SPEAKER: What point are you rising on, hon Deputy Minister?
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: Hon
Speaker, please indulge me. I want to rise on a substantive point
of order. Last ... [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Yes, hon Deputy Minister.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: Hon
Speaker, during the opening of Parliament on 11 February last
week on Thursday, there was a political incident that happened in
the House, which is that there were members of the House who
displayed, in the full glare of those who were in the Chamber and
those who were watching at home, contempt for the national
anthem. Now ... [Interjections.]
Mr J S MALEMA: Hon Speaker, on a pointer of order: He is not
citing which Rule he’s speaking on. He must rise on the Rule.
The SPEAKER: He cited the point of order and I’m still listening.
Hon Makwetla?
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The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES:
Speaker, Chapter 1 of the Constitution: the Founding Provisions,
section 4, provides for the national anthem. When Members of
Parliament take office there’s an oath that they’re sworn to ...
[Interjections.] ... and the oath involves members taking
responsibility ... [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Order! Order, hon members! Allow the hon member to
finish. Just finish, hon Deputy Minister.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: When we
take office we are sworn to uphold the Constitution.
[Interjections.] And upholding the Constitution also involves
upholding all the symbols of the Republic. It is my submission
that it is an obligation of hon members, at all times, to uphold
the laws and the Constitution of the country. [Interjections.]
[Applause.] But because the incident took place in the Joint
Sitting, my recommendation is that this matter be referred to the
structures in both Houses of Parliament where the members belong
for the matter to be addressed there. I don’t think it’s an
incident that should be left unattended, because you will be
setting a precedent. [Applause.]
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The SPEAKER: Thank you, hon Makwetla. Hon Makwetla, can we finish
on this one ... if you can just take your seat. I would like you,
hon member, to put that point in writing and submit it so that it
can be fully considered, especially because you raised it in the
context of constitutional ramifications.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: Thank
you for the advice, hon Speaker. I shall do so. The second point
of order that I want to rise on, Madam Speaker ...
[Interjections.]
Mr N F SHIVAMBU: Hon Speaker ... Speaker!
The SPEAKER: Hon member, I’m listening to the point of order and
I will recognise you but ... [Interjections.]
Mr N F SHIVAMBU: Hon Speaker, can you just ... [Inaudible.] ...
as you ... point of order. [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: ... I am dealing with a point of order and I would
like you to take your seat.
Mr N F SHIVAMBU: Can you at least ... [Inaudible.] ... of this
point of order. I’m rising about the person who’s speaking now.
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The SPEAKER: No, hon Shivambu. Allow me to come to you. Allow me
to arrive at a point when I come to you. Allow the Deputy
Minister to finish what he’s raising. Proceed, hon Makwetla.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: The
second point of order, Madam Speaker, relates to what is just
happening now: One of the very basic rules of this House is that,
in order for the business of the House to proceed smoothly, when
the presiding officer calls a member to order, the member shall
resume his or her seat. The presiding officer will address the
member, and only after the presiding officer has finished
addressing the member can the member rise to continue with the
point he was making. Now, hon Speaker ... [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Hon Makwetla, I’ve heard you.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: Hon
Speaker, in the sitting last week, there was what was almost a
mockery in this House. This was because the presiding officer was
busy reading out to the House what she wanted us to take note of
and, at the same time, there was a member who was at the
microphone, who continued talking at the same time as the
Speaker. Of course, this never used to happen before.
[Interjections.] The point that I want to raise is that the
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presiding officers have switch-off buttons at their disposal. I
want to know: At what point are those buttons used against
members who show total ... [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: You are asking a question and we have heard your
question. Please take your seat now, hon Makwetla.
Mr J S MALEMA: Hon Speaker ... [Interjections.]
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: There’s
one more point – the third - that I want to rise on, Madam
Speaker. There’s a third point. [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Order, hon members! Hon members, we should learn to
be patient with one another. I said that I was coming to the hon
Shivambu. That’s what I said, and I will indeed come to him. Hon
Makwetla, please wrap up.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: It’s my
last point of order with due respect, Madam Speaker. It is
convention in all gatherings and meetings that speakers will
always enjoy the protection of the Chair in a meeting. Now, I
want to ask the question. Regarding the laissez faire attitude of
the presiding officers not to protect us, what are we expected to
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do? Because if we are not protected by the Speaker or the
presiding officers when we are on the floor ...
Hon Speaker, I was making the point that if we are not protected
by the presiding officers when we are on the floor, we are going
to ... [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Hon Makwetla, this is no longer a point of order;
you are now throwing questions at the Chair. Please take your
seat, hon Makwetla. I would like to recognise the hon Shivambu.
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: Madam
Speaker, just before I sit down let me make the point that ...
[Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Hon Makwetla, you are now just venting.
Mr N F SHIVAMBU: I demand respect from Thabang Makwetla; he must
sit down. [Interjections.]
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE AND CORRECTIONAL SERVICES: Now,
Speaker, the tradition of this House is that if there’s a
violation of a Rule, you immediately stand up to raise a point of
order. It is not a tradition of this House, when a point of order
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or a violation happened two weeks ago, that you come here and try
to be relevant like Thabang Makwetla, who’s trying to be relevant
on raising his points of order out of context ...
[Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Hon Shivambu, you are also not raising a point of
order.
Mr N F SHIVAMBU: E-e, I’m dealing with the issue which ... you
allowed Thabang Makwetla to speak for such a long time. And the
second component, number two ... [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: No, hon Shivambu, he raised a point which the
presiding officers are going to go and look into. He then later
raised other issues which I have addressed myself to.
Mr N F SHIVAMBU: You allowed him. Let’s deal with those issues
before we proceed.
The SPEAKER: No, we will not deal with those issues because they
are not on the agenda.
Mr N F SHIVAMBU: Points of order are raised ... [Inaudible.]
[Interjections.]
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The SPEAKER: No, hon Shivambu.
Mr N F SHIVAMBU: ... violation. It is not allowed that you must
leave it until the next meeting. If there’s a letter which he is
going to give, it’s going to be irrelevant because it’s not part
of this particular process.
The SPEAKER: No, hon Shivambu, take your seat. Hon members, I
would now like to call on the Secretary to read the Order of the
Day. ... The Secretary advises me that the Order has been read.
SPEAKER RECEIVED A COPY OF PRESIDENT’S ADDRESS OF 11 FEBRUARY
2016
The SPEAKER: Hon members, I have received a copy of the
President’s address delivered at the Joint Sitting on 11 February
2016. The speech has been printed in the Minutes of the Joint
Sitting.
CONFIRMATION OF JOINT RULES GOVERNING DEBATE ON STATE OF THE
NATION ADDRESS
The SPEAKER: Hon members, before we proceed with the business of
the day, we confirm that the sittings on the debate on the state
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of the nation address take place in terms of the sixth edition of
the Joint Rules, together with the Joint Rules adopted by the
Joint Rules Committee on 11 November 2015, and subsequently by
the Houses on 26 November.
Further, we wish to bring the following to the specific attention
of members: In terms of Joint Rules 13 and 14(u), members may
only speak if recognised by the presiding officer. Speaking
without being recognised is an abuse of privilege of freedom of
speech. [Applause.] Joint Rule 14(e) provides that whenever the
presiding officer addresses members during a debate, any member
then speaking or seeking to speak shall resume his or her seat
and the presiding officer shall be heard without interruption.
In terms of Joint Rule 14(c), no member may interrupt another
member while speaking, except to call attention to a point of
order or a question of privilege. [Applause.] We have emphasised
in the past that a point of order or question of privilege is
only allowed if it calls attention to a transgression of a Joint
Rule or an acceptable parliamentary practice or privilege.
Freedom of speech is one of the privileges that members enjoy in
the exercise of their constitutional obligation to represent
their constituencies. This privilege is subject to the Rules and
orders.
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Hon members, privileges are provided for in the Constitution and
in the Powers, Privileges and Immunities of Parliament and
Provincial Legislatures Act. Spurious points of order are an
abuse of the Rules and privileges of freedom of speech.
Improperly interfering with or impeding the exercise or
performance by Parliament of its authority or function
constitutes a breach of privilege. Other breaches include
improper interference with the performance by a member of his or
her functions as a member, or threatening, or obstructing a
member proceeding to or going from a meeting of Parliament or a
House or a committee. We do this, hon members, as an attempt to
ensure that the debates take place in a manner consistent with
the decorum of the House and to avoid the acrimony that
unfortunately tends to characterise our proceedings lately. I now
call upon the hon Minister of Trade and Industry, the hon Davies.
[Applause.]
The MINISTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY: Thank you, Madam Speaker. Mr
President, in your state of the nation address you did not seek
to hide the fact that South Africa will face very serious
economic challenges in the year that lies ahead. We will continue
this year being battered by an unresolved global economic crisis
that has taken on new features that threaten to strike economies
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like ours right in our soft underbellies. Demand for mineral
commodities has slumped, with consequent sharp falls in the
dollar prices of almost all mineral commodities. With 36% of our
total exports consisting of precious stones and metals, ores,
iron and steel, we have been and will continue to be seriously
affected.
The price of gold in January this year was one third down on the
corresponding level of 2013. Platinum was 40% down, and iron ore
at $42 a ton was only one third of the $135 it was in early 2013.
While these effects are partly being mitigated by the devaluation
of the rand, they have had and will continue to have very serious
dampening effects on our economy. On top of that, this year we
are facing an El Niño which is associated in Southern Africa with
drought. What is more, the World Bank says this particular El
Niño this year “may be the strongest since detailed data have
been available”.
I make these points because I suspect that a number of speakers
who follow me will attempt to portray our economic challenges as
emanating solely or mainly from actual or alleged errors by this
government. The fact is, however, that all mineral-commodity
exporting countries, which are developed or developing, have been
and continue to be affected. Canada has just emerged from
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recession. Australia is experiencing its most oppressed
conditions since the 1960s, and, as you pointed out in your state
of the nation address, Brazil and Russia are forecast by the
International Monetary Fund, IMF, to be in recession this year.
Many African mineral-exporting countries including oil producers
are also facing tough times. An appreciation of these realities
is also important to underscore the point that anyone who tells
us that they have a quick fix capable of delivering high rates of
economic growth or dramatically curtailing unemployment in the
immediate future is misleading our people. They are the
equivalent of snake-oil salespeople offering a quack remedy that
does not work. [Applause.]
But, President, you told us in the state of the nation address
that ours is not to lament the global conditions, nor is it to
offer these as excuses for not doing what we can do better to
whether the storms ahead. You said, and I quote, “We cannot
change the global conditions but we can do a lot to change the
local conditions.” The circumstances – not of our making – that
we are confronting right now require at least four kinds of
responses from us. Firstly, we need to make inescapable but often
painful adjustments to maintain a stance of fiscal prudence. The
President gave something of the flavour of these in the state of
the nation address, and this will be further elaborated on in the
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Budget Speech by the Minister of Finance next week. Secondly, we
need to correct mistakes and make improvements in our performance
in a number of areas. A good example of what we have done in this
regard is in the energy sphere. This time last year we were in
the midst of load shedding. Through improvements in the
performance of Eskom and the bringing into force of alternative
sources of energy, including renewables supported by one of the
internationally recognised best programmes, that is the Renewable
Energy Independent Power Producer procurement programme, or the
Renewable Energy IPP procurement programme, we have achieved
greater stability even though we are not yet out of the woods.
Thirdly, we will need to act to mitigate the effects of these
challenges in vulnerable sectors, including in mining and
agriculture and particularly the impact they will have on workers
and families dependent on those sectors for their livelihoods.
Fourthly, we will need to identify available sources of growth
and job creation and to build on these.
Mr President, a number of analysts and commentators who look at
South Africa point out that while we are confronting the
challenges of the sort I have outlined, South Africa actually has
a number of strengths and achievements that we can build on. The
Oxford Business Group, for example, which launched their report
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earlier this year, said that South Africa faced many of the same
global challenges as other developing markets including lower
commodity prices and the risk of rising interest rates, but that
this country had reason to be upbeat. Their take on South Africa
was that in the long term the country’s fundamentals were very
encouraging and that there was a lot in South Africa’s favour but
that right now was a tricky time. Two examples of the things they
said we could build on were the renewable energy programme and
the automated production and development programme which had
created certainty in the automotive sector.
The report went on to say - and I think that this is quite
significant - that the pessimism of local business in the country
was not necessarily shared by those outside. I think this is
telling us something in that what we need to do as South Africa
is to find the opportunities that we have and to build on those.
In other words, we have strengths and capacities that we can
build on.
Since the start of this administration we have followed the
objectives of the National Development Plan, a programme that can
be characterised by six i’s: infrastructure, industrialisation,
investment, innovation, inclusion and integration. Advances that
we have made in all of these areas give us significant building
blocks in our attempt to promote higher levels of inclusive
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economic growth. For example, Mr President, with the onset of the
global economic crisis, we launched a much higher impact
infrastructure programme which has been given more effect by the
establishment of the Presidential Infrastructure Co-ordinating
Commission, an infrastructure programme which delivered in the
last term of government double the amount that was actually spent
on infrastructure at any time in this country’s history.
The Nine-Point Plan, which was enunciated in last year’s state of
the nation address and which was reaffirmed this year, identifies
priority actions to unlock bottlenecks and address weaknesses, as
well as to build on the strengths we have.
In the time that is left to me I want to speak on just three
elements or components of the Nine-Point Plan: a higher impact
Industrial Policy Action Plan, minerals beneficiation, and
investment. The premise that underpinned the Industrial Policy
Action Plan was that even in the best of times, when high rents
were being earned from record mineral commodity prices, an
importer of finished goods - located in the global division of
labour as a producer and exporter of primary products - was not
in the best place to be located. Most of the jobs in global value
chains are to be found in value-added productive activities and
associated high-quality services.
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Moving up the value chain, industrialising and diversifying were
identified even in the good times as a path that not just South
Africa but the entire African continent needed to follow. Now
that we are being challenged and we are no longer in the best of
times as far as commodity prices are concerned, moving in this
direction has become even more imperative.
We can acknowledge that the macro statistics for manufacturing
performance remain erratic. But in the third quarter of last
year, manufacturing delivered 6% growth quarter on quarter and
was responsible for saving our economy from two quarters of
negative growth. This kind of performance is not sustained across
the sector as a whole. The reality is that the fortunes of
important manufacturing subsectors are closely tied to those of
mining. Other subsectors, such as the iron and steel value chain,
are facing additional problems, such as the global glut of steel
which has created challenges that I can say government is working
on - we are close to finalising an agreement in the sector on
this.
But within the mixed picture there are some quite significant
successes. In the clothing and textiles sector, which was in
terminal decline, we took steps based on the Clothing and Textile
Competitiveness Improvement Programme such that between 2010 and
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March 2015 we supported R3,7 billion worth of competitiveness-
raising initiatives in the sector. As a result, 68 000 jobs in
this sector have been retained and 6 900 new jobs were created.
Twenty-two new factories in the leather and footwear sector have
been opened. The sector has been successfully stabilised and is
steadily regaining its domestic market share and beginning to
grow exports. A sign of this is that retailers such as Foschini
have been happy to invest in productive clothing companies in
this country because they realise that there is value to be had.
[Applause.]
Four vertical clusters have been established involving successful
value chains, and textile companies and a power manufacturer are
poised to move further ahead as time goes on.
In the automotive sector we have seen in the past five years
R25 billion of investment by automotive companies. Last year,
following the successful review of the automotive production and
development programme and indications of early work on its
successor programme, BMW announced the largest single investment
– at the time - in the automotive sector of R6 billion. Within a
few weeks they were followed by an announcement by BAW, or
Beijing Auto Works, of a R12 billion investment. The trend is
continuing. Last week ... [Interjections.] ... Mercedes-Benz
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announced that new truck products would be manufactured at its
East London plant. [Applause.] I can assure this House that there
are further investments that will be announced in the auto sector
in the weeks that lie ahead.
In addition to manufacturing passenger vehicles, we are now also
manufacturing public transport vehicles in this country. Minibus
taxis, which in 2007 were wholly imported, are now increasingly
being manufactured in South Africa. [Applause.] As late as the
Fifa World Cup, all procured buses to transport passengers for
that event were fully imported. Now, all the buses that are being
procured for the Bus Rapid Transit System have their bodies
manufactured in this country. [Applause.]
In the case of infrastructure-driven industrialisation, we have
seen significant investments by companies that have come to South
Africa and invested in this country to manufacture railway
equipment. General Electric, for example, announced a R700-
million investment to create railway equipment in this country.
And so successful has our programme been that the African Union
has decided that South Africa should become the rail production
hub for the African continent. [Applause.]
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In the oceans economy a number of things have happened, and one
of them includes shipbuilding. We have had shipbuilding
announcements by a number of companies. [Interjections.] Well,
let me tell you: The SA Shipyards won a tender for R1,5 billion
to build nine tugboats for the Transnet National Ports Authority.
This will create jobs for 600 people directly, and a further
3 000 jobs will be created by other subcontractors.
In agroprocessing we have supported and facilitated a number of
projects. They have included facilitating an agreement between
Nestlé and chicory growers in the Eastern Cape to procure chicory
from local production sources. That agreement was signed in the
Ndlambe Municipality last year, and I am pleased to be able to
report that as a result of this local chicory production is
replacing the imports that were there before. [Applause.]
International companies in the fast-moving consumer goods sector,
such as Unilever and Procter & Gamble, have seen that there are
markets for their products not just in South Africa but in the
rest of the continent and that South Africa is well placed for
them to support manufacturing activities here. In the television
manufacturing sector, companies like Samsung and Hisense have
invested in this country. Hisense made exports valued at
$6 million in 2014, and the value in 2015 rose to $20 million.
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They are targeting exports with a total value of $200 million in
five years’ time with localisation and supply-and-development
operations announced by the company. [Applause.]
Regarding the film programme, since 2004 the rebate programme
which we have been running as government has supported 583
productions; 336 are South African; 86 are co-productions. They
have also included attracting major international film studios.
One of the Oscar nominees this year is for a film that was made
in South Africa with location scenes in our neighbouring country,
Namibia. [Applause.] Right now this week, the final filming of
one of the largest and most ambitious TV series is concluding
here in Cape Town. These productions are employing local crews,
supporting local companies and investing in this country and
paying taxes. For an incentive amount of R3,3 billion over this
period, we have actually brought into this economy a value of
R15,2 billion.
I could give similar stories in other sectors. What I want to say
though is that all of these successes have been the product not
just of incentives, which have been provided by government, but
also of the policy framework we have put in place, including the
developmental stance we have taken on tariff setting and the work
we have done on standards to defend our borders against the
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influx of substandard products. And these successes have also
been the product of the designations that we have made which have
supported localisation and other support measures, which have
been tailored to the needs of particular subsectors.
[Interjections.]
Mr M Q NDLOZI: Speaker ...
The SPEAKER: What point are you rising on, hon Ndlozi? Hon
Minister, please take a seat.
Mr M Q NDLOZI: Madam Speaker, respectfully I wanted to check if
the hon Davies would be willing to take a question.
The SPEAKER: Hon Minister, do you want to take a question?
The MINISTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY: No, I won’t I’m afraid.
[Interjections.] You can come to the portfolio committee and you
can ask your question there.
Mr M Q NDLOZI: You just said that you’ve created 6 000 jobs but
there 8 million people that need jobs, and you are celebrating
that.
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The SPEAKER: Hon Ndlozi, he is not taking a question. Please let
him finish his speech.
The MINISTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY: I said that he can come to
the portfolio committee, but then I saw a report that your party
doesn’t attend portfolio committee meetings. [Applause.]
[Laughter.] So, maybe you can ask me in the corridor.
Mr N F SHIVAMBU: Speaker, on a point of order.
The SPEAKER: What is the point of order, hon Shivambu?
Mr N F SHIVAMBU: The Minister is deliberately misleading the
House. I sit in Trade and Industry. I do not miss meetings; I go
on oversight visits; I make inputs. I make submissions every day
on a proper industrial policy than what he is saying and waffling
about here. So, he must not mislead the House about nonattendance
because we are always there. He is celebrating mediocre jobs. ...
[Inaudible.] ... because he is ... [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Hon Shivambu, we have heard your answer to his
information. I think that you can now safely take your seat. Hon
Minister, can you correct that?
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The MINISTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY: Well, I will show them the
NGO report afterwards that I am basing my remarks on. I know that
the hon Shivambu does come to the portfolio committee - let me
acknowledge that.
The SPEAKER: So the record has been straightened. Proceed, hon
Minister.
The MINISTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY: Let me say that during the
course of this year we will be introducing, as we have been, a
new Industrial Policy Action Plan which will cover the actions of
this year. One of the new features is that we will be introducing
gas industrialisation, but we will also be focusing ...
The SPEAKER: Order! Order! There is a hand. Is that a point of
order, hon Singh.
Mr N SINGH: Hon Speaker, it is a point of privilege.
The SPEAKER: What is the point of privilege which you have not
alerted us to ahead of time?
Mr N SINGH: The hon Minister has referred to an NGO report as his
source for the attendance of meetings. That report is completely
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inaccurate. So, I would like the Minister to know that and bring
it to the attention of Parliament at an appropriate forum. Thank
you.
The SPEAKER: Thank you, hon Singh. Hon Minister?
The MINISTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY: Okay, let me not fight over
an NGO report that I saw. Let me not fight. Let me get to the
real issues. What I wanted to say is that in addition to new
areas like gas industrialisation, we will also be focusing on
labour-intensive sectors, taking forward the work on the clothing
and textile sector, on agroprocessing and so on.
The higher level of localisation that we have achieved has been
achieved in the sense that we now have firms that would have
supplied us with imports that are now coming into South Africa
investing and producing here. But we are not at a point in
localisation where we have a sufficient number of local
companies, particularly companies that are owned by the majority
of this country’s population who are driving industrialisation.
It is for that reason that we have launched a targeted black
industrialist programme. When the President mentioned this in the
state of the nation address the other day, I heard mumbles from
members on this side to the effect that this was more looting by
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politically connected cronies. [Interjections.] Absolutely not.
The definition of who is eligible to be on the programme is
tight. You will have to be in a company that is actually involved
in manufacturing. That company will have to be majority owned or
controlled by black people. Those black people will have to be
directly involved themselves and taking risk. The black
industrialist funding forum that will be created will be attended
exclusively by officials responsible for funding decisions from
participating development finance institutions that will also be
responsible for the final decisions on funding. They will also
provide nonfinancial support and identify potential access to
public and private procurement opportunities. I am happy to
indicate that we already have pledges of over R30 billion from
institutions like the Land Bank, the Industrial Development
Corporation, the Small Enterprise Finance Agency, the Development
Bank of Southern Africa and some provincial organisations like
the KZN Growth Fund. We have already received applications, and I
am pleased to be able to say that the funding forum will hold its
first meeting next month.
On mineral beneficiation, we have moved from saying that we need
to do this to actual action. We are working in a number of
priority areas. They include platinum group metals, titanium,
iron and steel where there are very significant challenges,
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polymers and mining equipment. On platinum group metals, South
Africa already participates in jewellery and autocatalyst
manufacturing. But the frontier industry in this sector is in
fuel cells. If you find that your existing customers are
demanding less for your product and paying you less, it is
prudent - since we have 77% of the world’s platinum - to find new
uses for this. As a consequence, government has already spent
more than R600 million on the development of new platinum
industries, the largest part through the creation of the company
Hydrogen SA, supported by the Department of Science and
Technology.
The Department of Trade and Industry is also involved. Last week
I participated in the announcement by Isondo Precious Metals of a
support programme, which will enable the manufacturing of
equipment to take place in South Africa. Some operations will
start in the industrial development zone around O R Tambo
International Airport, revitalising that long-declared, but
moribund, special economic zone.
We have also said that before the end of this year we will
proclaim a dedicated platinum value special economic zone in the
North West province. Also this year we anticipate that a
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metallurgical and training special economic zone will be
established in Musina, Limpopo.
On investment, we have sought to improve our investment
facilitation. We have established Invest SA as a one-stop shop.
This is a one-stop shop which will include an intergovernmental
clearing house of all the various agencies that are involved in
taking regulatory decisions that could affect investment. This
will be overseen by an interministerial committee which is
chaired by the President.
Mr President, hon members, clearly we need to do more and we need
to do it better. This will be achieved by engaging stakeholders,
business, labour and our communities and engaging them better and
more effectively than we have done up to now. As we do this, we
will seek to unite our people around the more positive narrative
on this economy, which actually, as I quoted earlier, many people
outside this country have done already to a greater extent than
some of us have done in this country. This will be a narrative
that recognises that we have challenges, that recognises and
frankly admits that we have those challenges, but also
recognises, celebrates and showcases our successes and our
capabilities. This is the path that successful economies have
followed, and it is that path that this ANC government is
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committing to travelling with with our people as we confront the
challenges that lie ahead.
Mr M Q NDLOZI: Speaker ... I am very sorry, hon Davies.
The SPEAKER: Order! Order! What is your point, hon Ndlozi?
Mr M Q NDLOZI: The Minister of Police is sleeping in Parliament.
[Laughter.]
The SPEAKER: Hon member, that is not a point of order.
Mr M Q NDLOZI: No, it is. I am disturbed. We pay this guy. I do
not even think that he is a Member of Parliament, yet he comes
and sleeps.
The SPEAKER: Hon Ndlozi, please take your seat now.
Mr M Q NDLOZI: But can you call order, hon Speaker?
[Interjections.] Surely he can’t come to work to sleep on the
people’s time. [Interjections.] Do not sleep, chief, take us
seriously.
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The SPEAKER: Take your seat, hon Ndlozi. Hon Minister, please
finish up.
The MINISTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY: Thank you very much, Speaker.
I have less than a minute to go, so I think everybody can wake
up. We can throw stones at each other and, no doubt, many will be
thrown in this debate.
Where criticisms are warranted, we need to respond to them and to
do better, but we can’t be distracted by grandstanding and
histrionics as we too often are in this Chamber. The economic
issues are just too important to the people of this country to
allow them to be used as political footballs in agendas of people
that really do not have any answers to the substantive challenges
faced by our people. We have serious work to do and this ANC
government is committed to doing it. I thank you. [Applause.]
The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION: Madam Speaker, President, hon
members and fellow South Africans: bagaetsho, dumelang, molweni,
goeiemiddag. [Good day.]
Before I begin, I would like to offer my thoughts and prayers to
the families of the workers trapped underground at the Lily Mine
in Mpumalanga. [Applause.] We cannot imagine your pain and
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anguish these past 11 days. We stand with you as a nation, and I
hold you and your loved ones in my prayers.
Last week, while razor wire was going up around Parliament and
stun grenades were dispersing the crowds, the President was
tucked safely away somewhere on Planet Zuma. Planet Zuma is a
place in a parallel universe, far, far away from the lives of
ordinary South Africans. [Applause.]
Planet Zuma is a place where a swimming pool can be called a fire
pool. It is a place where all the continents of the world fit
into Africa. [Laughter.] It is a place where the Finance Minister
flies economy class, but the President buys himself a R4 billion
jet. [Applause.]
Planet Zuma is a place where the President can replace an
excellent Finance Minister with a backbencher that nobody has
ever heard of. [Interjections.] Hon members, it is a place where
an international fugitive wanted for genocide is welcomed and
given refuge. Planet Zuma is a place where young people who stand
up for their right to learn are dismissed as part of a “third
force” and charged with treason. It is a place where mineworkers
can be massacred by the police, without an apology and without
compensation for their families. Planet Zuma is a place where our
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President lives in a galaxy far, far away from the lives of
ordinary South Africans. [Applause.]
In his speech on Thursday, we learnt more about Planet Zuma than
the country we live in. You see, on Planet Zuma there is no jobs
crisis. This is why, in the President’s speech, we didn’t hear
anything about the 8,3 million South Africans who are jobless. On
Planet Zuma all children have access to a quality education. This
must be why the President didn’t once mention basic education.
On Planet Zuma our state-owned enterprises, SOEs, are, in the
words of the President, “performing well”, and on Planet Zuma
every problem can be solved by setting up a committee, a task
team or a commission of inquiry.
The President lived up to our expectations on Thursday. We
expected to hear the empty words of a man out of touch with the
people and that is exactly what we got. We knew what to expect
but we came to listen anyway and we stayed until the bitter end,
because this is what the South African people expect of us. They
expect us to be here in this Parliament, making it work.
Let me be clear: we came to listen to the President out of
respect for the Constitution and the office he holds, but we did
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not come out of respect for Jacob Zuma. [Applause.] We cannot
respect a man who puts himself and his rich friends first while
the people of this country suffer. We cannot respect a man
personally responsible for the building of Nkandla and the firing
of Nhlanhla. Madam Speaker, Jacob Zuma is not an honourable man,
because if he was an honourable man he would do the honourable
thing and resign. [Applause.]
The President is not alone on Planet Zuma. Its gravitational pull
is so strong that the entire ANC ...
Mr H P CHAUKE: Point of order ... Speaker ...
The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION: Sorry, can you pause the clock?
The SPEAKER: Yes, hon member, what is the point of order. Hon
Leader of the Opposition, could you take your seat.
Mr H P CHAUKE: My name is Hlomane Chauke. Speaker, I’m saying
that even if we differ we have to maintain respect. He still
remains the president of the ANC. [Interjections.] Even in
whatever way you may differ ... Hey, hey! No matter what you say
he remains the president of the ANC. [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: The hon President is actually the President of the
Republic of South Africa. Proceed, hon Maimane, but do respect
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the hon President of the Republic of South Africa.
[Interjections.]
The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION: Madam Speaker, it is very difficult
to do when the President’s own counsel has admitted that he
misled this House. The President ...
The SPEAKER: Hon Maimane, I would love us to stick to matters of
these proceedings and leave issues happening outside ...
[Interjections.] ... there. Please proceed.
The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION: The President is not alone on
Planet Zuma. Its gravitational pull is so strong that the entire
ANC has been sucked into its orbit and it cannot escape. The
party that was once the defender of freedom has now become the
defender of just one man. [Applause.]
Make no mistake: there are many good people in the ANC and many
of them sit in these benches, and there are still some excellent
Cabinet Ministers who do a good job in a difficult circumstance.
So, when the President spoke on Thursday night we could see how
painful it must have been for the hon members seated on my right.
We noticed the glum faces and muted applause in the ANC benches.
We saw Cabinet Ministers wince as the President laboured his way
through his speech, and who can blame them? Every hon member on
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this side knows the damage that this man is doing to this country
and their party. [Applause.] But not one of you, not one of you
has the guts to speak out against what is happening.
[Interjections.] It is simply a failure of leadership. You should
be ashamed.
Aninalo uvalo. [You are not ashamed.]
In 1983, the great novelist, Chinua Achebe, said the following
about his native Nigeria:
The trouble with Nigeria is simply and squarely a failure of
leadership. There is nothing basically wrong with the Nigerian
character. There is nothing wrong with the Nigerian land or
climate or water or air or anything else. The Nigerian problem
is the unwillingness or inability of its leaders to rise to the
responsibility, to the challenge of personal example, which are
the hallmarks of true leadership.
Mr Achebe could have been writing about our own country because,
hon members, there is nothing wrong with the South African
character. There is nothing wrong with our country and the people
who live here. However, there is a lot wrong with our leadership.
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Mr President, let us rewind to a few days before the state of the
nation address when your Nkandla case was heard in the
Constitutional Court. You weren’t physically in the dock but you
may as well have been. You were on trial for subverting our
Constitution, corrupting our Parliament, undermining the Office
of the Public Protector and violating your own oath of office.
After all those years of lying, ducking and diving ...
The DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: Hon Speaker, on a
point of order.
The SPEAKER: What’s the point of order, Deputy Chief Whip? Hon
Maimane, can you take your seat?
The DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: Hon Speaker, the
matter that he is referring to is in a court of law. There is no
judgment on that matter ... [Interjections.] ... so why is he
raising it in the House?
The SPEAKER: Hon members, on the issue of matters that are sub
judice, in terms of Joint Rule 14(q), no member shall reflect on
the merits of any matter on which a judicial decision is pending.
To be sub judice means a matter must be awaiting adjudication or
be under adjudication by a court of law. Hon members, the Chair
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has a responsibility to apply this Rule in such a way as to
impose the minimum limitation on open debate and the right of
members to freedom of speech.
The practice has therefore been to allow members to refer to
matters before the courts in general terms, but not to discuss
their merits or to refer to the matter in a way that could
prejudice the case. Members are therefore cautioned to refrain
from saying anything that attempts to anticipate the outcome of
the case or comment on the merits or matters that are part of
evidence before the court.
So, hon members, what we are saying and the position we are
taking and reflecting on here is also out of respect for the
principle of the separation of powers. I therefore appeal to you,
hon Maimane, to stay out of issues that are still before the
courts.
The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: Madam Speaker, I think you are
being very restrictive in your interpretation and it flies in the
very face of a ruling delivered by yourself in this House during
the Fifth Parliament. Madam Speaker ...
The SPEAKER: How am I being restrictive, hon Steenhuisen?
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The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: I think you are overrestricting
your warnings to the hon Leader of the Opposition, Madam Speaker.
The rulings before had reference to the case in the courts and to
the facts in the cases; to quote you, Madam Speaker, would not be
a violation of the sub judice rule. That’s available in Hansard,
and I have it here to show you. Madam Speaker ...
The SPEAKER: Hon Steenhuisen, I’m reminding you in this ruling. I
am making exactly the same point: that you must steer clear of
the merits of the case and therefore I am cautioning hon members.
The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: Well, Madam Speaker, I would
say ...
The SPEAKER: Please take your seat now, hon Steenhuisen.
The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: ... I would say to you that you
are being overly restrictive in your interpretation.
The SPEAKER: I am not being restrictive, hon Steenhuisen.
The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: You are.
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The SPEAKER: Please proceed, hon Maimane.
The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION: After all of those years of
stalling, lying, ducking and diving, it took the court just hours
to unravel your web of defiance and deceit. Through a string of
extraordinary concessions in the court, your legal team
effectively relegated your caucus to its current position – under
the proverbial bus. Before that bench of esteemed judges, there
was simply nowhere to hide.
Now that you have been exposed in the nation’s highest court, it
remains to be determined how much you will pay. Because here’s
the thing: whatever the amount, it will be nothing compared to
what the people of this country have already paid for your
presidency. [Applause.] Instead of redressing the structural
inequalities of apartheid, you built yourself a big house on the
backs of poor South Africans. Instead of breaking down the
barriers that keep young, black people excluded from the economy,
you introduced black economic empowerment codes that keep
empowering the connected few. And instead of dismantling bantu
education, you have allowed the education of the African child to
deteriorate.
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The people who have paid the highest price of all are those who
can afford it the least. Every single poor child stuck in our
failing education system, who will never escape the poverty trap
in their lifetime, you cost them their future, President Zuma.
The 8,3 million South Africans who cannot find work have paid
more for you than you will ever know. They paid with their
dreams. I know, because I’ve heard their heartbreaking stories.
Amabali afana nebali likaThemba Lukhoto oneminyaka engamashumi
amabini anesithoba. Uneminyaka elishumi engafumani umsebenzi
Kwaye esithi lelona xesha libi ngakumbi kunentolongo. [Stories
like Themba Lukhoto’s who is twenty nine years old. He has been
unemployed for ten years and he says this is the most difficult
time than being imprisoned.]
There is 41-year-old Robert van Wyngaardt who lost both his legs
and has been without work for the past six years. He and his
unemployed wife struggle to provide for their little daughter and
can’t make a living on social grants.
There is also 28-year-old Cherice Minnaar who has a college
diploma but has been unemployed for the past six months. She
feels her children deserve a better mother because she cannot
raise them on love and water.
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Kgotsa Mbusi Cele wa dingwaga dile some-a-mabedi le bobedi, o
nang le masters degree mme gaise a bone tiro mo dingwageng di le
pedi a re o setse a ineetse mo botshelong. (Translation of
Setswana paragraph follows.)
[Furthermore, there is Mbusi Cele, a 22 year old with a Masters
Degree, who has been unemployed for two years. He says he has
already given up on life.]
There are many who are just like them. We simply couldn’t fit the
8,3 million into this book, but, Mr President, here are some of
their stories - the people your government has long forgotten
about.
I believe every single person has a conscience. Mr President, my
question is: How do you live with yours? [Applause.] You call
yourself a champion of poor black South Africans. You talk big
about the twin evils of racism and structural racial inequality.
So why then, Mr President, do you govern as though black lives
don’t matter? Why do you govern for the elite few and not for the
many that live in poverty?
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President Zuma, we are acutely aware of the structural legacy of
apartheid. We know that unemployment, poverty and inequality are
the results of a deeply unfair history of exclusion and
oppression. But your job is to fix this. Not overnight. Nobody is
expecting miracles. We just expect our country to move in the
right direction.
Fellow South Africans, there is one part of our country moving in
the right direction. It is a place where the life of each and
every citizen matters. It is a place where the structural
inequalities of the past are being rolled back. It is a place
where, every day, progress is being made towards a fair society.
It is a place where the DA government cut the perks and
privileges of politicians. [Interjections.] [Applause.] It’s a
place where the cost of ministerial vehicles was slashed in half;
where blue-light brigades were banned and economy class flights
are the norm. Please note, President Zuma, these cost-cutting
measures were implemented not because the economy was in
meltdown, but they were implemented because we don’t think
politicians are more important than other people. It is a place
where over two thirds of the City of Cape Town’s budget is spent
in poor communities ... [Interjections.] ... and where the
poor ... [Applause.] ... receive the most generous package of
free water and electricity.
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Dit is ’n plek waar die regering vir al die mense werk.
[Applous.] [It is a place where the government works for all the
people. [Applause.]]
It is a place where, to grow the economy and create jobs, the
government focuses on getting the fundamentals right: clean
government, policy certainty, infrastructure development, support
for entrepreneurs and an aggressive targeting of investment. It’s
a place where fewer people are unemployed and more people are
hopeful of finding a job. It is a place where the inequities in
the health system are finally being undone, not by an
unaffordable new scheme that will bankrupt the system, but by
sound, clean government that delivers health care for the poor.
It is a place where the first new hospitals built by the DA
government were in Khayelitsha and Mitchells Plain – areas
neglected for decades by the ANC. [Interjections.]
Mr G S RADEBE: Hon Speaker ... Hon Speaker ... Point of order,
Speaker.
The SPEAKER: Yes, hon member, are you rising on a point of order?
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Mr G S RADEBE: Hon Speaker, I just want to check whether it’s the
DA’s policy to retain racist people ... [Inaudible.]
[Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: No, hon member, there’s no such point.
The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: Point of order, Madam Speaker.
You see this is the problem in the House. When we in the
opposition stand up and make what you term frivolous points of
order, we are dealt with in a very severe manner. Yet that
gentleman at the back there is continuously allowed to rise on
frivolous points of order and you ignore him.
The SPEAKER: Hon member, I’ve ruled him out of order.
An HON MEMBER: Harshly!
The SPEAKER: So please ... How harshly is harsh? Proceed, hon
Maimane.
The LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION: It is a place where getting the
basics right pays dividends; where the matric pass rate last year
improved to 84,7% ... [Applause.] ... the highest in South
Africa, while the pass rate in every other province declined. It
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is a place where the pass rate in schools in the most
impoverished areas increased from 57% under the ANC to 73% under
the DA. [Applause.] It is a place where this year, for the first
time, every matriculant who passed qualified for access to some
form of tertiary education and half of them for university
entrance. [Applause.]
Mr President, while you and your cronies are on Planet Zuma, we
are here where the people are. We are improving people’s lives
step by step, day by day, and we are making progress.
James Baldwin, the renowned American novelist and civil rights
activist, once said, “The most dangerous creation of any society
is the man who has nothing to lose.” Mr President, your neglect
has created 8,3 million jobless people, many with nothing to
lose. The time is coming soon when they will sweep you and your
cronies out of office, and vote in a new government ...
[Interjections.] ... a government committed to building a fair
society, where every child has a chance to be the best they can
be.
When we deliver our inaugural state of the nation address, it
will sound very different to yours, Mr President. We will
announce a number of measures to turn our economy around and lift
people out of poverty. We will cut the size of your bloated
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Cabinet in half, saving R4,7 billion. [Applause.] We will
privatise our failing state enterprises, beginning with SAA and
Eskom that guzzle billions of rand every year. We will make South
Africa a nation of entrepreneurs by cutting red tape and
providing more support and training for businesses. We will
improve black economic empowerment so that it rewards companies
that invest in their workers and create jobs, instead of simply
re-empowering the connected few.
We will turn Basic Education around before we lose another
generation of black children. We’ll do so by giving teachers the
support and training that they need to equip our children to
compete in a global economy. We will increase the National
Student Financial Aid Scheme funding for poor students so that no
qualifying student is denied further education because they
cannot afford it. We will make communities safer by putting
250 000 properly trained police officers in the streets. We will
fight gangsterism and drugs by reinstating the Narcotics
Bureau ... [Interjections] ... and building more rehabilitation
centres. We will save R30 billion a year by cutting corruption
and firing corrupt officials. We will invest 10% of GDP in the
infrastructure vital for economic growth. We will dedicate an
extra R10 billion to speed up land reform, provide training and
support for emerging farmers and roll out farm equity schemes
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that give workers ownership of the land they work on. We will
accelerate the issuing of title deeds to give people assets and
redress past landownership. We will declare the drought a
national disaster so that we can urgently protect our food
security ... [Applause.] ... because we understand that helping
our farming communities is more important than buying new cars
for traditional leaders or remodelling Ministers’ offices.
This is how we will build a safe, prosperous and inclusive South
Africa, and prepare our country for a changing world. We will
harness the full potential of the South African people. Because,
against all odds, ordinary people are achieving extraordinary
things. It is the teacher who works hard every day to uplift poor
children. It is the policeman who risks his life to safeguard his
community. It is the entrepreneur who battles impossible
regulations to keep her business afloat. It is the unemployed
parent who doesn’t stop looking for a way to take care of her
family. Imagine what they could do if they had a government that
worked for them instead of against them.
Mr President, in your parallel universe I’m sure your state of
the nation speech would have been just fine, but here in the real
world it did not cut it. On Planet Zuma you can pretend the
schools are working, that investors are lining up, and state-
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owned enterprises are thriving. But in the real world none of
that is true. On Planet Zuma you can carry on dismissing the
aspirations of young, black South Africans. You can keep
betraying their hopes for a brighter future and govern as if
their lives don’t matter. But, here, in the real world, each one
of those lives really matters.
Here, in the real world, we need a President and a government
that serves all the people of South Africa. We need a President
with a vision and the power to unite people – black and white –
in striving for this vision, because we are better together. We
prosper together. We need a President who is an example to his
government and to the nation. [Interjections.] We need a
President who is in touch with the people of this country. We
need a President who puts people first and himself last. You,
sir, are not that President. I thank you. [Applause.]
The SPEAKER: Hon members, can I ask that even when you are
heckling, which you are allowed to do, you don’t drown out the
speaker.
Mr J S MALEMA: My time! My time!
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Hon Speaker, we thank you for the opportunity to speak to South
Africans, Africans and the world about the issues confronting our
people. We shall make it very clear that we do not want to debate
the state of the nation which was presented here by an
illegitimate President. [Interjections.]
We refuse to legitimise the morally and politically compromised
President of the ANC. We do not recognise him, due to his
incapacity, lack of direction, association with criminal
elements, unaccountability and pure disregard for the
Constitution and the people of South Africa.
We are here to speak about a country where more than 26 million
of its population live in absolute poverty and suffering. We are
here to speak about a country where more than 8 million of its
capable workforce cannot find jobs because the state, under its
current leadership, cannot provide jobs.
We are here to speak about the many capable children who do not
have access to quality and free education, because the state
cannot provide free, quality education for all. However, we are
comforted by the militant structures, like the #FeesMustFall
movement, the #RhodesMustFall movement and the EFF Student
Command because they are keeping the dream of decolonisation and
free education alive. [Applause.]
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We must not forget that we are in a country where the black
majority – more than 80% of the population – is congested and
squeezed into less than 20% of the land, because the rest of the
land is owned and controlled by those who colonially took it from
the African majority through committing black genocide. We must
not forget that we are in a country where settler colonialists
and white monopoly capital is in control of almost all sectors of
the economy. The white minority own and control every section of
the economy, including the maize meal which feeds the majority of
our people, because the former liberation movement betrayed its
founding principles. [Interjections.]
We must not forget that we are in a country where the African
majority continue to be slaves and suppliers of cheap labour to
the white minority as cleaners, garden boys, domestic workers,
car guards, petrol attendants, security guards, rock drill
operators, and everything that pays low wages. The ANC has
destroyed the nursing, teaching and police professions by paying
those workers peanuts.
Our people are hungry for land. Land hunger is a reality. Our
people are misled into celebrating the so-called middle class and
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the black executives who are nothing but credit-worthy and
indebted blacks who do not own and do not control anything.
We are here to ask the whole of South Africa to listen to the
voices of the struggling masses of our people in the informal
settlements, like Thembelihle, Stjwetla, the Winnie Mandela
squatter camp, the Chris Hani squatter camp, the Joe Slovo
squatter camp, Diepsloot, Alexandra, Marikana, and all the
dejected and neglected areas where poor black people live.
Fellow South Africans, the majority of our people in townships
live in a state of indignity and congestion. They live like pigs
when they are alive and even when they are dead. The majority in
eThekwini, Sebokeng, Hammanskraal, Soshanguve, Umlazi, KwaMashu,
Mdantsane and in many other areas are still forced to share a
small piece of land when they are alive. Even in death, they are
still forced to share graves, where more than two people are
buried in one grave. [Interjections.] [Applause.]
My brothers and sisters, let’s show solidarity with rock drill
operators, mineworkers, metalworkers, ironworkers, workers of
Shoprite and all the retail stores who are underpaid and some
employed through labour brokers. Twenty-two years after so-called
democracy, less than 10% of the land has been redistributed. We
want to reveal the obvious fact that, if it takes 22 years to
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redistribute 10% of the land, it will take the ANC 100 years to
redistribute at least 50% of the land.
Our economy is just a consuming economy. We are unable to
manufacture and produce even basic consumer goods and services,
such as phones, televisions, cars, many food items, teaspoons,
matchsticks, toothpicks and clothes. What kind of self-respecting
country fails to produce food for itself, despite the
availability of arable land? More than 10 million workers who
wake up every day to sell their labour do not get any living wage
and do not qualify for houses, cars, clothes and education for
their children. Many black South Africans die because they cannot
afford medication. We speak of these realities because the so-
called President of South Africa never pointed to those
realities.
An HON MEMBER: Yes!
Mr J S MALEMA: We are aware that during your so-called state of
the nation address, you did mention the relocation of Parliament
to one city. We welcome that move because the fact that South
Africa has separate capital and administrative cities is as a
result of colonial compromises and the settlement of the Anglo-
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Boer War. While many Africans died in that war, they were not
part of the ultimate political settlement in the early 1900s.
More than money, it is politically correct for South Africa to
have one capital city to affirm its own identity as a post-
colonial, political territory, not unworkable capital cities that
waste the resources of our people.
We want to make it clear to the hon Thabang Makwetla that we will
never sing Die Stem. [Applause.] Die Stem is another compromise,
which is not justifiable. No ruling, and neither a court, nor
prison can force us to sing a song of the apartheid murderers.
HON MEMBERS: Yes!
Mr J S MALEMA: On 11 February 2016, we decidedly and courageously
refused to be addressed by an illegitimate and morally
compromised human being who happens to be President of the ruling
party and our country.
In our previous life, we uncritically accepted so many lies,
fictions and conspiracy theories created about you, Mr Zuma, and
our fear of a third term also misled us. But the signs were
there. Your questionable political life and the events that led
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you to become President were signs, indeed, that we should have
opened up to those signs.
All those signs were clear that you are not capable of being a
President. [Interjections.] This is the man who knowingly had sex
with an HIV-positive woman and later explained to the court that
a shower would lessen the chances of contracting HIV.
[Interjections.] We are now the laughing stock of the world. This
was another sign shown to us that you are incapable of becoming a
President, but we ignored that.
This is the man who knowingly impregnated a friend’s child,
despite his having many wives at home. This was another sign that
you are bad with judgment. [Interjections.]
This is the man who did not take any decisive action when the
Gupta family landed their plane at the Waterkloof Air Force Base.
Actually, instead of taking action, this is the same man who
embraces the same family and attends all their events, despite
the fact that those people compromised the security of this
country.
This is the same man ... [Interjections.] Wait a bit! [Laughter.]
[Applause.] I was going to say “Cheers!” but, hey, I remembered
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you are the wrong man. This is the same man who appoints
Ministers with close relationships with Gupta’s family - and
those Ministers immediately start negotiating business deals for
the Guptas and his son. [Interjections.] I am speaking from
experience!
In my previous life, when I was a friend of the Minister of Sport
and Recreation, he received a call from the Guptas.
[Interjections.] He was still the Deputy Minister of Police, and
they told him that he was going to be the Minister of Sport and
Recreation. That was during the time he still had courage. He
went to the National Executive Committee, NEC, of the ANC and
raised this matter. He was so angry and he even cried about
it ... [Laughter.] [Applause.] ... asking why we were being
appointed by unelected leaders into positions of responsibility.
I hope, one day, my former friend will find himself and continue
to fight this just cause.
This is the man who, in December, exchanged Ministers of Finance
in South Africa, gave misleading and wrong reasons and
accelerated our country’s currency into junk status. This led to
the loss of more than R500 billion. The crisis caused by mindless
and unexplained changes in National Treasury are not some elite
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or palace battles. It is critical in that it has got a direct
impact on the lives and livelihoods of ordinary South Africans.
When South Africa’s currency is weak, it will become more
expensive for South Africans to buy basic consumer goods and
services from other parts of the world. As we speak now, in the
context of the drought, South Africa has to import more than
6 million tons of maize meal, which is the staple food for more
than 80% of South Africans. A weak currency will mean that
everything we import from other parts of the world will be
expensive and unaffordable for many families. All this, because
of one man!
Our country is being relegated to a junk country because of the
actions and decisions of one man. This one man called a President
is responsible for the many ills affecting our country and he
blames all of this on the global economy. There are challenges in
the global economy but Mr Zuma is responsible for the many ills
confronting our country.
Alongside Mr Zuma’s unforgiveable blunders are Ministers and
premiers who learn from the best and replicate the same form of
corruption and unaccountability in the department and provinces.
The Premier of the Free State, Ace Magashule, is the most corrupt
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premier in South Africa. He is not accountable to anyone. The man
is untouchable.
The Premier of Mpumalanga province is the most corrupt premier in
South Africa who plays a part in the disappearance of his
opponents in his province and loots as he wishes. The Premier of
the North West is also corrupt. He plays a part in the
disappearance of opponents in his province and is not being held
accountable. These, and many others engage in these activities
with the knowledge and endorsement of one man, who we are all
expected to treat with respect.
Alongside these ills caused by him is a family who are business
partners of his son and business partners of his political
subjects - the Gupta family. The Gupta family’s influence and
capture of the South African state and government is not fiction,
and the reasons we have provided are just the tip of the iceberg.
The Guptas are party to the institutionalisation of mediocrity
here in South Africa, and this is shown by the mediocre media
houses and other businesses that are parasitic on the state.
South Africa, we stand here, bound and obliged by constitutional
and moral obligations and call for the immediate removal of Mr
Zuma as the President of the Republic of South Africa.
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HON MEMBERS: Yes! [Applause.]
Mr J S MALEMA: Mr Zuma has caused so much damage and he is in the
process of causing more damage. Under his watch, a huge amount of
money from the police slush fund disappeared, and that was money
meant to fight crime. Under his watch, money keeps on
disappearing in the State Security Agency. We cannot stand back
and do nothing when one individual is accelerating South Africa
into further decay.
The man is accepted to have breached his oath of office and the
Constitution. The reality is that, in no time, and under Mr
Zuma’s watch and supervision, we will be left with no country and
no systems with which to hold our people accountable.
We are here today, once again, to apologise to former President
Mbeki for being part of those who removed him on the basis of
lies, rumours and gossip spread by the sitting President. In his
letter, President Mbeki stated, “I did not tell who was
misleading us.” We were misled by this man - the President of the
Republic of South Africa! [Applause.]
I remember, I had a meeting with President Zuma ...
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Mr H P CHAUKE: Madam Speaker ...
Mr J S MALEMA: ... after the Nicholson judgment ...
Mr H P CHAUKE: Madam Speaker ...
Mr J S MALEMA: ... where President Zuma said to me ...
[Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Order! Order!
Mr J S MALEMA: ... he doesn’t want to work with President Mbeki.
The SPEAKER: Order, hon Malema! Please take your seat.
[Interjections.] Yes, hon member, on what point are you rising?
Mr H P CHAUKE: Hon Speaker, on a point of order: I would request
that you ask the gallery there to stop participating in our
debates. [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Indeed, we always repeat this - and have, on
numerous occasions in the past - that we ask and appeal to our
guests in the gallery please not to participate in the
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proceedings of the House by clapping their hands ...
[Interjections.] ... or in any other way participating in the
proceedings, because we want to welcome you all to be part of
this Joint Sitting only by sitting and observing in an orderly
fashion. Thank you very much. Proceed, hon Malema.
Mr J S MALEMA: I led the charge on the removal of President Mbeki
after the meeting I had with President Zuma, during which he made
it very clear to me that he was not prepared to work with
President Mbeki. This is despite the fact that the former
President of the Youth League, Mbalula, called me from the
mountain and encouraged me not to participate in that activity of
removing Mbeki because it would cause a problem. [Interjections.]
That is why I know that Mbalula has got the capacity to see wrong
things. He just needs to come around. [Interjections.]
[Applause.] Had we listened to him, we would not be in this
state. For those who do not know, Mbalula discouraged us from
calling for the removal of President Mbeki.
We apologise to President Mandela for allowing Mr Zuma to ruin
his legacy and turn South Africa into a junk country. We never
and will never agree with the economic policies pursued by both
President Mbeki and President Mandela. But at least they knew
what they stood for – unlike him, who stands for nothing ...
[Interjections.] ... and who always gets persuaded by the Guptas
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to take the wrong decisions; a man who prioritises himself and
his family.
If all of you doubt that, then you must refer to the presentation
that was made in the Constitutional Court where all of you were
dumbed by the President. This is a man who can single-handedly
destroy what used to be the movement of the people. A man who,
when he says, “I will not pay,” the whole movement says, “He must
not pay.” A man who, when he says, “Now, I will pay,” the whole
movement says, “He will now pay.”
Think, comrades! You are participating in destroying the
organisation of Chris Hani, Luthuli and O R Tambo, an
organisation that never believed in the politics of a personality
cult. You are more Zuma members than being members of the ANC!
[Interjections.] [Applause.] You need to discover yourself.
To all South Africans, our message is clear and simple: Freedom
is coming. The EFF is the last hope for jobs and service
delivery. [Interjections.] We are the last hope for massive
industrialisation development to create millions of jobs. We are
the last hope for free, quality education for all. We are the
last hope for quality health care, sanitation and better
services. We are the last hope for the war against corruption.
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The EFF is the last hope for the people of Stjwetla, Mdantsane,
Umlazi, Soweto, Mahwelereng, Bushbuckridge, Orange Farm,
Gugulethu, Khayelitsha, Mthatha and all areas where there are no
jobs and basic services for our people. The EFF is the last hope
for the workers of Toyota in KwaZulu-Natal, of all metalworkers
in Nelson Mandela Bay, Buffalo City and Tshwane. We are the hope
of all mineworkers in Marikana, on the entire platinum belt, in
Kuruman, Kimberley, the trapped workers of Lily Mine, and all the
areas where workers face brutal exploitation.
Mr Zupta, your legacy can be summed up into three things: Umshini
Wami, Nkandla, Guptas. [Applause.] I am leaving. I can’t sit here
to debate what you presented here because you are not a
legitimate President. Bye-bye! [Interjections.] [Applause.]
The SPEAKER: Hon Malema, as you leave, I want you to know that,
as you know, what you did was wrong. [Interjections.] You should
have done it in the form of a substantive motion.
[Interjections.] You did it, knowingly. It was wrong, and it
shall be expunged from the Hansard. [Interjections.]
Prince M G BUTHELEZI: Hon Speaker, His Excellency President Zuma,
hon Ministers, hon Deputy Ministers, hon members, at the
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beginning of this year, the Cape Town Press Club invited me to
deliver an alternative state of the nation address, revealing
what South Africa really needed to hear. I noted then that
although I served under our two presidents as Acting President
more than 20 times and although I have debated with four
different presidents over the course of 21 years in this House, I
have never had the onerous task of doing what Your Excellency did
last Thursday. I also said that what we most needed to hear was a
good dose of honesty about the economy, the fracturing of social
cohesion and the dire situation our people face because of the
drought.
To my mind, it is better to be frank with our people so that they
will know how long the night will last and whether the dawn is
actually coming. Our people are remarkably patriotic and have
been enduringly patient. It is morally reprehensible therefore to
feed them empty promises; it’s eminently dangerous, in fact.
I must therefore commend the President as his address on Thursday
was at least frank. It indeed acknowledged the grim circumstances
of our country. He did not shy away from the fact that despite
the hopes expressed in the National Development Plan, the NDP, by
all parties that we could achieve a 5% economic growth rate by
2019, this will not happen.
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This forces us to face the fact that there is no prospect of
turning our economy around in the foreseeable future. That 5%
growth rate was our only hope for creating the level of
employment that South Africa needs. Regardless of the myriad of
challenges put forward to justify the difficulties our economy
faces, the closing line of the President's address was honest,
and I wish to quote you, sir: “We cannot change the global
economic conditions but we can do a lot to change the local
conditions.”
In this regard, the IFP welcomes the establishment of an
interministerial committee dedicated to enhancing investment, and
we welcome greater co-operation with the private sector in the
hope of placing our country on a growth path. I suspect that
South Africans welcome the Back-to-Basics approach on local
governance and the SA Police Service. Our people certainly
welcome the announcement that there will no longer be lavish
dinners following departmental budget speeches and that the need
for constant travel between two capitals is no longer considered
feasible and must be addressed.
But when one listens to the President's choice of words when
announcing cutbacks and efforts at better financial management,
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the conclusion is inescapable that the government has indeed gone
too far in abusing state resources. It is a damning admission but
a true one.
I refer here to statements from the President’s speech. “We have
made an undertaking to spend public funds wisely,” and, “I invite
premiers and mayors to join us as we begin eliminating wasteful
expenditure in government.” I ask the question: Is this too
little too late? Is it enough to restore our nation's confidence
in the present leadership of the country? Undoubtedly, it is not
enough to pull us out of our economic distress. That would take
bold policy decisions.
When the President addresses the disastrous financial situation
of state-owned enterprises by saying, “We have heard concerns but
some of them are doing quite well,” it is clear that nothing will
be done to plug the fatal drain of state-owned enterprises like
SA Airways. I remember that even when I sat in Cabinet some 10
years ago we were constantly being asked to bail out SA Airways.
Why are we still doing it? Too often it comes down to poor policy
decisions. The President, for instance, applauds the recent
changes in visa regulations in order to boost tourism and enhance
investment. What he doesn't say, however, is that these changes
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were required because visa regulations were passed against all
good judgment. They did enormous damage to our tourism industry.
We’ll struggle to attract foreign investment, in my view, as long
as there is policy uncertainty. For instance, on the issue of
land reform, we heard the President say during his state of the
nation address in 2015 that foreign land ownership would be
barred. He has now repeated this in 2016. For the past year,
foreign investors have been in limbo as to when and whether this
policy would be implemented.
At times, the President seemed to spend more time describing the
way things should work and what they look like when they are
working, than explaining how we are going to get from here to
there. He made a statement on the drought, for instance, that I
find quite discouraging. He said, “Government provides relief to
affected communities.” What does that mean to the millions of
people struggling without sufficient water? What does it mean to
the farmers whose livestock are dying every day? Is it a
statement of what a government in general does, or a promise of
what this government will do? The effects of this drought on our
people must be taken more seriously. Food security is threatened
for many families, and livelihoods are being lost.
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Just days before the state of the nation address, the Institute
for Justice and Reconciliation, the IJR, released some shocking
results from the Afrobarometer survey, and I will mention just
three. It spoke about support for democracy having dropped to
64%; that two thirds of our citizens would willingly give up the
right to vote in exchange for a nonelected government that
actually delivers; and that 10% of black South Africans would
willingly welcome back the government of the old South Africa.
What is happening to our country? We are abandoning our most
cherished values because the exercise of those values has failed
us. Democracy, political franchise and freedom, values for which
my generation fought and died, are becoming worthless commodities
to a disillusioned people. We cannot let this happen. I have
asked myself what my response should be as a patriot and as a
leader of my people. I have considered the leadership we admired
in the giants of our past. And I cannot avoid the conclusion that
we must emulate their example in that we must be cerebral rather
than emotional. The battle of the present demands it. In the
present economic situation, it is so easy to whip up
emotions to indulge in demagoguery. A revolution is not very hard
to start. But is it wise to do so? Is it the right path for our
country to start a revolution, if our intended destination is the
restoration of peace, stability, hope and cohesion?
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I’m reminded in all of this of the meaning of the words “inkatha”
and “kgare” in Zulu and Sesotho respectively: a tightly plaited
grass coil designed to help carry a heavy burden on one's head.
Symbolically, the IFP continues to aim to maintain balance,
assisting and protecting our people from the heavy social and
economic burdens they bear. As our country faces such dire
challenges, that is the role, Mr President, we will continue to
play. Msholozi. [Applause.]
Ms D CARTER: Hon Speaker ...
The SPEAKER: Yes, hon member?
Ms D CARTER: Hon Speaker, I didn’t want to interrupt the hon
Buthelezi, but I would like to just ask you a question. Members
rose on frivolous points of orders earlier on. At no point was
any member asked to withdraw anything. I’m just asking: In terms
of which Rule are you going to remove a speech from Hansard?
The SPEAKER: Thank you, hon member. I will rule later.
Ms D CARTER: Hon Speaker ...
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The SPEAKER: On what point are you now rising?
Ms D CARTER: Hon Speaker, you made a ruling about 15 minutes ago,
now you are saying you are going to rule again?
The SPEAKER: Yes, I said I am going to rule on what you are
raising.
Ms D CARTER: But I just need ... In terms of which Rule ...
[Inaudible.] ...
The SPEAKER: Hon member, I am not having a debate with you.
[Interjections.] I am not refusing to rule; I’m just saying that
I will rule later.
Ms D CARTER: I want to remind you about the fact that you said we
must have patience ...
The SPEAKER: Please proceed, hon Masualle. Hon member, please
take your seat.
The PREMIER OF THE EASTERN CAPE (Mr P Masualle): Hon Speaker of
the National Assembly, His Excellency Mr President, Ministers,
Deputy Ministers, hon members of this assembly ...
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Mr W M MADISHA: Hon Speaker ... Hon Speaker ...
The SPEAKER: Are you nostalgic for the EFF? [Laughter.] Hon
member of Cope - Madisha?
Mr W M MADISHA: Speaker, you have already made a ruling. Now we
want to understand: Regarding what is being raised here, what is
the ruling?
The SPEAKER: I am repeating, hon Madisha. Your honourable
colleague rose on a point of order. I listened, and I am saying I
will rule later. That is what I am saying and I repeat that. So,
please take your seat. Take your seat, hon Madisha.
[Interjections.]
Mr W M MADISHA: You have ruled already.
The SPEAKER: Hon Madisha, take your seat.
Mr W M MADISHA: But you have ruled already.
The SPEAKER: Hon Madisha, take your seat.
Mr W M MADISHA: You are out of order yourself. [Interjections.]
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The SPEAKER: Hon Madisha, please withdraw that.
Mr W M MADISHA: Withdraw what?
The SPEAKER: Withdraw your saying that the Chair is out of order.
Mr W M MADISHA: No, you are out of order, because ...
The SPEAKER: Hon Madisha, I am not going to argue with you. If
you do not want to withdraw that, then I will have to ask you to
leave the Chamber. [Interjections.]
Mr W M MADISHA: We withdraw. [Laughter.] [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Thanks very much. Hon Masualle, please proceed.
Mr W M MADISHA: ... the truth. [Interjections.]
The SPEAKER: Hon Masualle, please proceed.
The PREMIER OF THE EASTERN CAPE (Mr P Masualle): Thank you again,
hon Speaker, for the privilege and honour to stand before this
august House to be part of this debate. We dare not forget that
history has given us the honour to serve our people and change
their life conditions.
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Last week’s state of the nation address by the President was very
concise in leading the charge on what needs to be done to address
South Africa’s challenges. More than that, the underlying message
of the President once more appealed to all South Africans to ask
not what South Africa will do for each one of us, but what
together we can do for our land to prosper. [Applause.]
I may just digress and say it’s really ironic ... It never stops
to amaze me why it is that we stood before the electorate on
7 May - each of the political parties had the opportunity to
present themselves before the electorate and indeed the
electorate passed its verdict. But, in the House, somehow an
impression is created that those who had garnered the least votes
are the ones who represent the majority out there. [Applause.] I
think it is a matter that somehow needs to be debunked.
This House would also recall that during the state of the nation
address of February 2015, the hon President unveiled a nine-point
plan to respond to the sluggish growth in the economic
environment. The President provided the vision and, through our
actions, we followed with concrete programmes to support that
vision.
I wish to spend a few minutes talking about the area of energy
supply. In the perspective of the Eastern Cape province, we asked
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ourselves: What would our own contribution be in realising this
vision? As early as 2013, we took a decision to position
ourselves as the energy hub for the rest of the country,
particularly focusing on cleaner forms of energy. We did so
cognisant of the fact that the future of our planet and its
inhabitants is dependent on how well we care for our scarce,
precious natural resources.
As we speak, part of the manganese corridor development linking
the Northern Cape to the Eastern Cape, with its manganese export
facility in Coega, is on track with the manganese smeltering
facility to be located at the Coega Industrial Development Zone.
[Applause.]
Our partnership with the Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University
in the area of shale gas research is at an advanced stage that
will lead to the use of our gas reserves in the Karoo basin, thus
contributing further to the energy mix that the President spoke
about, particularly the area of clean energy. These are
partnerships that we value, that are in themselves committed to
moving our country forward.
To date, we are making progress in the footprint of wind and
solar farms, as the Minister of Trade and Industry alluded to
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when he made his address earlier. We have now a total of 17 such
projects with a total investment value of more than
R33,7 billion. These projects create much-needed job
opportunities and contribute more than 611 megawatts of power
tool to the national grid.
The province has also received an additional boost to its energy
security when the 335 megawatt Dedisa Peaking Power Plant Station
achieved commercial operation, thus playing role in reducing the
load shedding that we were speaking about a few months ago.
In the past year we saw wind farms awarded to the former homeland
areas for the first time in South Africa. In Ngqushwa phaya
ePeddie we now have such located wind farms. [Applause.] All
this, as I have alluded to, has been captured in the nine-point
plan that the President unveiled.
In his state of the nation address the President also alluded to
the centenary of our premier education institution, the
University of Fort Hare. We pay tribute to its visionary founders
and former alumnae. As the breeding ground of many of the
leadership in this room and beyond, we pride ourselves in being
the majestic jewel in the crown of knowledge of this continental
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institution. May it continue to breed and groom excellent leaders
that will take our country into the next century.
We therefore look forward with great anticipation to the national
celebrations that will be hosted in our province on 20 May 2016,
and we can assure you that it will be an event which shall
properly celebrate the historic contribution of that institution.
[Applause.]
Taking our cue from what the President has said, we agree that a
resilient and a fast-growing economy is at the heart of our
transformational agenda. When the economy grows fast it delivers
jobs. In the area specifically of agri-parks the President spoke
about last week, the location of these agri-parks, the regional
enterprise development hubs and the cultural production
facilities in our province seek to improve the agroprocessing
capacity of the province, notwithstanding the detrimental effects
of drought that we are experiencing these days. As the province
we are determined to complement the President’s efforts by
increasing primary production, not only in Ngqurha, as the
President mentioned last week, but also in Lambasi, Sundays River
Valley, Butterworth, Matatiele, Sterkspruit, and Senqu.
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Women and our young people have been identified as beneficiaries
of these programmes. On top of this, Port St Johns has been
identified as one of the vegetable production hubs, which will
ultimately support the Kei Fresh Produce Market around the King
Sabata Dalindyebo Municipality. [Applause.]
It has warmed our hearts to hear the President acknowledge the
work that we are doing through the industrial development zones
based at Coega and East London. As a follow-up to what we have
been doing since the call was made to maximise our oceans
economy, we have formulated our provincial maritime skills
development plan with partners in the sector.
This year, to give effect to some of the decisions we have made
through the department of education, we have already established
maritime schools or streams in the curriculum of our schools.
Schools like George Randell and Ngwenyathi High Schools have
started with a Grade 10 curriculum to help our learners access
the necessary skills. [Applause.]
We commit, Mr President, to taking care of the two bulk carrier
vessels that have been registered in Port Elizabeth under the
South African flag. We are also pleased that the very friendly
city has been hosting the armed forces this week in the Armed
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Forces Week, which will culminate in the national celebration on
21 February 2016.
Furthermore, the development of the aquaculture zones at Coega
have commenced and this initiative has an estimated value of
close to R2 billion, with the potential to unlock at least 5 600
jobs. This initiative will provide space for abalone, fin fish,
seaweed and tilapia farming.
We are also proud, Mr President, to register progress in your
plans to expand the Coega dairy and Coega cheese plants aimed at
increasing milk export volumes by 200% at least. This will also
see an increase in cheese export production to well over 60%.
In conclusion, we are well on track with our road infrastructure
development, Mr President. Indeed, it is correct that the SA
National Roads Agency Limited, or Sanral, is one of those public
institutions, or state-owned enterprises, SOEs, that is doing
remarkable work and it is doing remarkable work in our province.
[Applause.]
This year alone an investment amount annually in our road
infrastructure exceeds R5 billion and indeed this is beginning to
unlock the potential of economic development in other parts of
the province.
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We take on the President’s challenge that South Africa should
strive to become a financial centre of Africa. In our province we
have many institutions which can produce capable men and women
who can contribute to this vision — compatriots who will ask not
what South Africa will do for them, but what we together can do
for our country. Now is not the time to lose hope, but indeed, to
look ahead, forge ahead and move the country forward. I thank
you. [Applause.]
Mr M L SHELEMBE: Hon Speaker and members of the Houses, the state
of the nation address delivered by President Zuma on Thursday
last week is an insult to each and every South African. Apart
from a slight mention of the economic crises we are faced with,
very little was said to give the people a true account of the
state of our nation.
Once again, we were spoon-fed ANC propaganda about how good life
is in South Africa. No mention was made of service delivery
protests, which are flaring up all over the country on a daily
basis. Not a word was said about the drop in our matric pass
rate, and the President was silent about the drought which is
crippling our economy and threatening our food security.
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The President made mention of the weak economy, but did not take
any responsibility for the weak performance. Rather than
admitting that he made a serious error when he appointed Van
Rooyen as Minister of Finance to appease the Guptas and, in doing
so, wiping out almost R700 billion of wealth in South Africa, the
President remained silent.
This is the crux of the problem with President Zuma. He never
takes responsibility for things that go wrong. The Guptas landed
at Waterkloof and President Zuma knew nothing. Millions of rand
were spent to upgrade Nkandla ...
The DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: Hon Deputy Speaker,
on a point of order: We don’t know who he is referring to as “Van
Rooyen”. In this House, we have “the hon Van Rooyen”. Thank you.
The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon Shelembe, when ...
Mr M L SHELEMBE: Hon Van Rooyen.
The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes. Thank you.
Mr M L SHELEMBE: The Guptas landed at Waterkloof and President
Zuma knew nothing. Millions of rand were spent to upgrade
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Nkandla, but President Zuma maintained that there was nothing
wrong with spending such lavish amounts for his private benefit,
until he was forced to acknowledge the wrong in front of our
Constitutional Court.
The NFP questions the integrity of President Zuma. Why did he not
do the honourable thing and pay back the undue enrichment when
the Public Protector made her report available? Why did he deem
it fit to manipulate Ministers and Parliament to shield him from
accountability? Why did he do his level best to discredit the
Public Protector and, in doing so, launch a vicious attack on the
integrity of a Chapter 9 institution, which has been established
to protect South Africans against abuse by those in power?
South Africa deserves a state President who will put South Africa
first and not his political party. We deserve a state President
who will protect and defend our hard-won democracy, and above
all, we deserve a state President who will treasure the core
values of good governance which are transparency and
accountability. President Zuma has failed dismally to uphold
these values and he does not deserve to hold the highest office
in the land.
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South Africa is in a deep economic crisis and the governing party
has no solution to tackle this crisis. The NFP is saddened that
the state President failed to tell us how we are going to
strengthen our economy and to provide us with concrete solutions
to steer our country’s credit rating away from junk status.
The cost-cutting measures announced are welcome but,
unfortunately, are too little, too late. We trust that President
Zuma will lead by example in reducing the number of overseas
visits and the number of people he takes with him on these trips
abroad. More importantly, the NFP believes that the President
himself should be the first to explain to the hard-hit taxpayers
what benefit there has been in leading a massive delegation of 53
members to Davos recently, at an estimated cost of close to
R40 million.
The NFP would also have liked to see some enthusiasm for a
national minimum wage in the state of the nation address. Sadly,
for millions of South Africans who are poor and barely making a
living, the President offered no warm comfort, just another vague
undertaking once more, without any tangible details. A national
minimum wage will go a long way towards addressing workers’ basic
needs and reducing working poverty and inequality. Yet, President
Zuma chose to make cautious remarks about the implication of such
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a national minimum wage, selling out workers once again to
placate business groups and rating agencies.
The time has come for ordinary South Africans to take a stand and
demand a state President who will lead us forward. We need a
biblical Samson who will fight the just cause of the ordinary
people against the Philistines - the ANC led by Zuma.
[Interjections.] Enough damage has been done by a state President
who puts his party before the country, a state President that
sees no wrong in undue enrichment for himself, his family and his
Gupta friends.
We need a state President that will carefully consider his
actions and not give in to external pressure from business
associates, as he did with the appointment of the hon Van Rooyen.
We need a state President who will address the real challenges of
drought, crime and unemployment, which we face on a daily basis,
and a state President that will address our education crises with
vision and vigour.
Zuma is not the state President that we deserve ...
[Interjections.]
The DEPUTY SPEAKER: President Zuma.
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Mr M L SHELEMBE: President Zuma is not the state President we
deserve, and the ANC must take the blame for forcing such an
incompetent leader on the country. This year, we are having local
government elections, and now is the time for South Africans to
show the ANC that they have had enough.
The time for change has come. The time has come for Zuma and the
ANC to go. The time has come for democracy to be defended. Zuma
must fall. Thank you. [Time expired.] [Applause.]
Dr B H HOLOMISA: Deputy Speaker, hon President, Deputy President
and hon members, the South African economic situation demands
that we adopt an approach that is all-inclusive and pragmatic.
One of the credits to our country is our ability to resolve
challenges through dialogue. Perhaps in resolving the current
economic crisis, we need to borrow from our recent past. The
Convention for a Democratic SA, Codesa, delivered political
liberation with more still to be done on the economic front, so
that we can have a binding consensus on the macroeconomic policy
of the country.
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In this regard, the UDM suggests that an all-inclusive national
summit be convened to develop and adopt a framework to guide all
role-players towards a national economic transformation indaba,
whose resolutions will result in progressive amendments to the
current legislative regime.
The proposed economic indaba must emerge with a comprehensive
blueprint of a road to be traversed by the country in dealing
with matters such as land, education, skills development, black
economic empowerment, etc.
The security of the workers’ pensions needs immediate attention,
given that the Public Investment Corporation, PIC, seems to be a
source of questionable deals for cronies of the ruling elite
through, amongst other things, consortiums like the Kilimanjaro
Sakhumnotho and some not-for-profit organisations like the Global
Fund for Christ.
In this regard, the UDM suggests to all contributors to the
pension and provident funds to consider establishing an
independent national fund forum to, amongst other things, monitor
investments, auditing and usage of their monies by the PIC and
other financial institutions.
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We further propose that a task team, led by a retired judge, be
established to investigate all complaints from ex-mineworkers who
have been marching to Parliament and the Union Buildings,
demanding information on their provident funds, allegedly not
paid either by the state or their employers.
A widely publicised offer by the President to bring the Nkandla
issue to finality, in the interests of national unity, has been
noted by us. There is no doubt in anybody’s mind that the Nkandla
saga has affected many individuals and institutions adversely,
owing to the manner in which he handled the saga contrary to much
advice. As we speak, this has affected the trust and confidence
of many public representatives in this House, who felt abused or
betrayed during this process.
In this regard, we appeal to his revolutionary consciousness as a
patriot with unquestionable struggle credentials to place the
interests and unity of the nation first and vacate the office
with dignity. Give us a mandate, Msholozi, to handle your exit in
a dignified manner.
Further - and to avoid another embarrassing sitting President,
scoring own goals - the House must demand the long-time promised
ministerial handbook for scrutiny.
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South Africans, whilst the state of the nation address was very
lean on corruption, billions of rand that were supposed to help
improve our social ills in this country is being looted left and
right. A new phenomenon has emerged through Setas, or sector
education and training authorities, which are used to divert
skills development funds to bottomless private pockets. Employees
who are suspected of blowing the whistle on alleged corruption
against the CEO of the construction Seta are either expelled
and/or suspended in droves.
To make things worse, some of these employees ...
The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon Holomisa, your time has expired.
Dr B H HOLOMISA: ... were paraded and humiliated when they were
taken by the CEO and chairperson of the board to an outsider ...
The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon Holomisa, your time has expired.
Dr B H HOLOMISA: ... the secretary of the South African Communist
Party, SACP, in KwaZulu-Natal. The victimised employees have
appealed to the Presidency without success. [Interjections.]
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Animameli, ningxola gqitha.
SEKELA SOMLOMO: Nguwe lo ongamameliyo lungu elihloniphekileyo,
hlala phantsi.
Gq B H HOLOMISA: Nizizixhobo nje zokusetyenziswa. Ebenyanisile
laa mfana kaZibi xa esithi aniphatheki. Niyasetyenziswa nje.
Nitye imali apha kodwa anifuni ukuba sinixelele. [Welewele.]
(Translation of isiXhosa paragraphs follows.)
[You don’t listen, you are making too much noise.
You are the one who is not listening hon member, take your seat.
You are just being used like tools. Mr Zibi was correct when he
said it is not easy to work with you. You are just being used.
You have mismanaged the money but you don’t want us to talk about
that.]
The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon member, you are being contemptuous. This
is contempt of the first order. [Interjections.] I now recognise
the hon Van Damme. Before you start, hon member, can we appeal to
members ... We don’t sit here to police members. Members realise
when they are infringing on obvious Rules. I do appeal to members
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not to do what the hon Holomisa has done here. He is out of
order. It is inappropriate for anyone to want to be told what to
do when you’re an adult.
Ms P T VAN DAMME: Hon Deputy Speaker, the President’s state of
the nation address last week made it patently clear that the ANC
does not regard issues facing young South Africans as significant
or urgent. In his speech, the President did not present a single
plan devoted to improving the lives of South Africa’s youth. He
made no mention of basic education, the #FeesMustFall movement or
youth unemployment - the three most significant issues facing
young South Africans today.
It is alarming in a country where the population is largely made
up of young people that the President would not devote a
significant portion of his speech to this sector of society. This
shows a President that is not only completely out of touch, but
simply does not care about young people.
The only time the President mentioned young people was when he
asked us to register to vote. This is how the ANC sees young
people, as voting cattle, and not as a sector of society whose
views need to be taken seriously and needs catered for.
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Millions of young South Africans look to you, Mr President, to
provide certainty and hope for the future. Young South Africans
yearn for bold, innovative, comprehensive and workable plans to
move the country forward. Your speech, sadly, provided none of
these for our young people.
I am sure that it has become clear, even for ANC voters, that the
only way in which a better South Africa will be achieved is not
only when President Zuma is gone, but the whole of the ANC.
Fellow young people, there is no messiah who will bring change to
the ANC, not Deputy President Ramaphosa, nor Dr Dlamini-Zuma – no
one. It is time to vote the whole of the ANC out of power.
[Applause.] [Interjections.]
It is absolutely possible to build a better South Africa for our
young people: a South Africa where the extraordinary potential of
all our people is realised; one where the structural inequalities
caused by colonialism and apartheid are dismantled; a South
Africa that is dynamic, vibrant and a leader in the developing
world; a South Africa we can all be proud of.
But before we provide the solutions to our young people, we need
to understand their problems. What are the conditions under which
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our young people are living? According to the University of Cape
Town South African Child Gauge 2015, the spectre of poverty
haunts South Africa’s children before they even leave the womb.
Half of our young people live in poverty. This poverty is
experienced not only in the form of financial deprivation, but in
the form of a lack of access to basic services, health care,
quality education and protection from crime.
Last year’s #FeesMustFall movement sharply demonstrated the
problems of access to higher education. The insensitive and out-
of-touch comments from some ANC leaders on the legitimate
concerns of our students were absolutely disgraceful. Some, like
the president of the ANC Women’s League, Bathabile Dlamini, claim
that the #FeesMustFall movement was funded by foreign forces, and
others, like ANC Youth League president 34,9 Collen Maine,
accused students of treason.
The DA today stands in support of all students that have called
for additional funding to be allocated to universities. No South
African should be denied the opportunity to pursue tertiary
education, because they do not have money. The manner in which
our universities have been underfunded is one of postapartheid
South Africa’s greatest tragedies. A greater tragedy is how
R361 million has been pilfered from historically disadvantaged
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institutions to fund last year’s moratorium on fee increases. The
ANC really governs sometimes like young black lives do not
matter.
The DA looks forward to the announcement on university funding by
Minister Gordhan, as promised by President Zuma in his state of
the nation address. However, it is unfathomable how this funding
will be found, given that the only budget cuts that were
announced during the state of the nation address were minor and
will do very little to meet the estimated R7,8 billion needed to
cater for the so-called missing middle.
If you really want to find funding for universities, Mr
President, you would cut your number of Ministries to 15, that is
already a R4,2 billion. Put your money where your mouth is: Cut
the number of Ministries and provide that money to universities.
The next higher education crisis looming is at our technical and
vocational education and training colleges, or TVET colleges. The
syllabi at these institutions are generally out of date, markers
are unqualified, and exam papers are largely inconsistent. It is
a disgrace, Minister Nzimande, that over 100 000 students are
still waiting for their certificates, and some students have been
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waiting since 2013. Fix our TVET institutions before it is too
late.
Another key problem facing young people is unemployment. The
unemployment rate amongst our young people is more than twice
that of adults. In 2015, as many as 5,4 million young people were
unemployed, with young women forming the bulk of this.
Post-recession increases in employment for adults between the
years 2011 and 2014 were not matched by equivalent increases
amongst the youth. In fact, in 2011 and in 2013 youth
unemployment increased, and it was young black youth that
suffered the most as a result.
The ANC governs like young black lives do not matter.
[Interjections.] These, Mr President are in a nutshell just some
of the problems that face South Africa’s young people. There are
many, many more.
The solutions to these challenges are really quite simple. It
requires political will, dedicated leadership, laser-like focus
and having the right plan. The DA’s five-point plan for jobs is
an all-encompassing plan, which, if implemented, would not only
create employment but also result in increased investment in
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energy, transport and ICT, and give more people education and
skills, reform radically the labour regime, provide direct
incentives for job creation and create a nation of entrepreneurs.
Through implementing these and other policies, the Western Cape
is now the best place to live if you are a young person.
[Interjections.]
At 29,9%, the DA-run Western Cape has the lowest youth
unemployment rate in the country, compared to provinces such as
the Northern Cape and the Eastern Cape, which have rates of 45,1%
and 41% respectively.
The Western Cape also has the highest absorption rate of people
into the economy at 43,2% and the lowest amount of young
discouraged workseekers at 1,2%. This means that more young
people are finding employment in the Western Cape than anywhere
in the country, and have more hope of doing so.
By focusing on improving the quality of education, the Western
Cape achieved a pass rate of 84,7% last year, the highest in the
country. It is the only province that had an improved pass rate –
and where every single learner who passed matric passed with
access to higher education. The Western Cape is not only better
in terms of education and employment, but the lives at home of
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our young people are also better than those of young people in
other provinces. [Interjections.]
According to the 2014 Non-Financial Census of Municipalities, the
Western Cape has the highest proportion of households benefiting
from free basic water, electricity, sewerage and sanitation, as
well as solid waste management. It is therefore no wonder that
thousands of young South Africans will, for the first time, vote
DA in their municipalities this year, and the ANC stands to lose
support as the old age home that it is. The DA governs well and
it governs better. [Applause.]
The ANC has shown through its President’s state of the nation
address that it is an out-of-touch, old age home that does not
care about young people, that it is completely out of touch and
is on its way out. Goodbye. [Applause.]
The DEPUTY MINISTER OF MINERAL RESOURCES: Speaker and Deputy
Speaker of the National Assembly, hon President Zuma, Ministers
and Deputy Ministers, hon members, ladies and gentlemen, comrades
and friends, today, 25 years ago, on 16 February 1991, Comrade
Bheki Mlangeni, an ANC human rights lawyer of Soweto, was killed
by a Walkman bomb. He died instantly, leaving behind his wife
Seipati and a young child. He was only 35. Eugene de Kock, an
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apartheid hit squad leader, has since confessed to the gruesome
murder.
The President also highlighted in his state of the nation address
and on the occasion of the ANC’s January 8 statement, the
significance of 2016, as it marks historical anniversaries of
great importance that we as a nation need to appreciate, cherish
and embrace.
By acknowledging and remembering the sacrifices of so many, they
remain our lighthouse to guide and strengthen our democracy so
that all may enjoy the freedom of equality, dignity and respect.
This freedom was indeed not for free.
Today is the 11th day since the tragedy that befell our people at
Lily Mine in Barberton, Mpumalanga. Please let us keep Comrades
Yvonne Mnisi, Pretty Nkambule and Solomon Nyarenda and their
families in our prayers. Regrettably, rescue services had to be
suspended due to further major fall of ground and we are still
awaiting further information.
We also wish to acknowledge the proactive leadership of Minister
Zwane who has been seized with this matter from day one. The co-
operation between mine management, trade union leadership and
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rescue teams has been remarkable, and the support from the
Premier of Mpumalanga and the interministerial committee,
consisting of Ministers Zwane, Shabangu and Dlamini, was a
welcome relief to the community. For now we can only hope for the
best outcome and prepare for the worst.
In the nine-point plan to turn around the economy, President Zuma
enunciated, amongst other things, advancing beneficiation as an
integral part of our radical economic transformation agenda. Let
us utilise both our comparative and competitive advantages in
mining to realise the true meaning of this transformation. After
all, without mining our mineral resources sustainably, the nine-
point plan may be difficult to realise. Everything around us is
either mined or grown.
The intersection between mining and farming is what has sustained
humanity over many years and will remain as such for many more
years to come. The ANC has further instructed us to advance
people’s power in whatever we do, and we dare not fail this
glorious movement and the society it leads. The ANC leads and the
ANC lives. [Applause.]
I think it is important at this juncture to also recognise, Mr
President, that peaceful revolutionaries have nothing to offer.
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They are a typical analogy of the left brain and the right brain:
in the left brain there is nothing right, and in the right brain
there is nothing left. They are gone. [Interjections.]
Hon Maimane, the sod turning and building of the Mitchells Plain
and Khayelitsha hospitals were done by the ANC Western Cape under
the leadership of Premier Lynne Brown ... [Applause.] ... and
National Treasury paid for those hospitals. You quoted Chinua
Achebe - please claim no easy victories. We want to work with you
to eliminate the incidence of drug abuse all over the country,
including in the Western Cape and in our churches. This is what
we have to do. [Applause.]
Unfortunately, the cowards from the EFF have left.
[Interjections.] You see, the hon Malema is trying to sell
everybody wherever he goes. He tried to sell out the hon
President Mandela in London, and he received a backlash. Now, he
comes here ... He was a friend to you, hon Minister. He has tried
to sell out on issues that you discussed in secret. What kind of
sellout is this? Judas! [Interjections.]
Let’s come back to mining. On the occasion of the 104th annual
general meeting of the Chamber of Mines in 1994, former President
Mandela said, and I quote, “South Africa is blessed with an
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exceptional geological heritage.” Indeed, our country has the
most beautiful geology and endowment of various mineral
resources. South Africa simply rocks!
Notwithstanding the 100 years of formal mining, we are assured of
another 100 years-plus of continuous mining given our country’s
estimated R50 trillion of nonpetroleum untapped resources. It is
important, therefore, to utilise our knowledge, experience,
lessons of history and mining expertise to approach the next
century of mining differently. Working together on this front, we
should be able to push back the frontiers of poverty,
unemployment and inequality.
Despite the current global economic challenges, there is still a
great deal of investors who see the economic potential right now
and latent in South Africa and the continent. This was evidenced
during the recent Annual Mining Indaba held last week in Cape
Town where over 6 000 participants gathered from across the
world.
It is stating fact and the obvious that the world is in the
throes of structural change. Global financial imbalances continue
to cause material and sustained volatility. Growing complexity in
the geopolitical arena further increases uncertainty in key
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regions of the globe, complicating investment and business
parameters worldwide.
A key manifestation of this evolving and unsettling global order
is the ongoing currency volatility with massive swings,
particularly in the currencies of emerging economies like ours.
Our currency has not been immune from such dynamics either.
Whilst the rand depreciation entails a number of undesirable
effects on financial and business aspects of our economy, it
nonetheless assists our struggling mining industry. Given the
down-cycle of commodities and the fall in resource prices, many
of our mining operations would face much tougher conditions had
it not been for substantial rand depreciation. Many more
thousands of jobs would have been at real risk.
In our analysis of the viability of the mining industry, we need
to bear in mind that it is the net effect of commodity prices,
adjusted for rand depreciation, that matter for investment and
sustainability of operations in our mining sector. Clearly, there
is no uniformity in the sector. Commodities have their own market
dynamics.
Nonetheless, it is safe to argue that one thing common across all
mining operations is the fact that business operations and
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corporate structures need to respond to the new and prevailing
order in this sector. Business as usual can no longer be
sustained.
Going forward, the competitiveness of our national mining
industry will, to a large extent, depend on the degree to which
it adopts green technologies, sound environmental practices,
humane labour practices and effective health and safety
standards.
Let me reiterate what you said, Mr President, in your state of
the nation address and I quote:
... our country remains an attractive investment destination.
It may face challenges, but its positive attributes far
outweigh those challenges. We must continue to market the
country as a preferred destination for investments. This
requires a common narrative from all of us as business, labour
and government.
Let me also assure you, Madam Speaker and Deputy Speaker, that we
are not resting on our laurels. Through the Council for
Geoscience - an institution that is over 100 years old and that
also has a massive reservoir of information about our geology -
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we have successfully bid for and been awarded the privilege of
hosting the World Cup of Geology right here in Cape Town, in
August this year.
We will continue to encourage a mineral development pattern that
reverses the spatial inequalities of the past. We are thus
focusing our resources on identifying relatively underdeveloped
regions for quality mineral deposits that we can develop. These
include the enhanced exploration of the Tugela terrain of
KwaZulu-Natal and the Northern Cape. The next phases will focus
on areas in Limpopo and Mpumalanga.
Let me repeat this: The mining industry remains the foundation of
our country’s economy and will continue to be central in
achieving government’s objectives as expressed in the National
Development Plan and the African Mining Vision.
Let me emphasise that this industry is a long-term value business
and, notwithstanding the above stated challenges, the African
continent leads investment in project development in this
industry, with 30 large mining projects being commissioned on the
continent between 2015 and 2018. This immediate investment
amounts to $18 billion, of which South Africa has the lion’s
share of 29%.
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The projects range from nickel, through platinum, gold, copper,
diamonds to other minerals. This is a demonstration of the
resilience of the mining industry, which is generally not a
beneficiary of incentive support by host governments like other
sectors of the economy are. The Gross Fixed Capital Formation in
the mining industry reached R80 billion in 2015, confirming the
confidence of the investment community in the business
environment, right here in South Africa.
We want to talk about the jobs. To stem the tide of job losses in
the mining industry, government, labour and business came
together last year in August to develop an intervention strategy
to minimise job losses, and to ameliorate the impact on affected
employees. The interventions, as agreed upon, range from delaying
the implementation of retrenchments to investment promotion and
market development. There are eight plans that I don’t have time
to enunciate.
Out of the 32 000 jobs under threat, close to 3 000 were already
saved between August and December 2015 – unlike the dollarised
economies of Australia for instance where, in November last year,
it was reported to have lost 60 000 jobs, and in the USA where
15 000 were reported to have been lost. So, here we have a
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situation in which we talk about these things and correct them,
as we did in the past.
The facilitation by the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation
and Arbitration, the CCMA, the Department of Labour, the
Department of Mineral Resources, the mining industry and labour
has paid some dividends. The good news, Mr President, is that
commodities like gold are now starting to do very well. Diamonds
are picking up, and platinum is stabilising in terms of capital
investment in the medium term. However, out of the 53 commodities
we are mining at approximately 1 700 mines and quarries, iron ore
and coal are still lagging behind.
The Department of Mineral Resources has been working tirelessly
in collaboration with the Department of Rural Development and
Land Reform, the Department of Agriculture, Forestry and
Fisheries, the Department of Trade and Industry and the
Department of Labour to strengthen collaboration between mining
and farming for economic development.
One such success is the roll-out of macadamia plantations in the
Eastern Cape. The main purpose of this project is to assist in
alleviating the plight of rural communities and ex-mineworkers,
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hon Holomisa, in labour-sending areas by creating alternative
economic activities.
So far, two sites have started growing macadamia nuts in the
Eastern Cape based on a partnership between communities, the
private sector and government. The business model is based on 300
hectares, and every 300 hectares generates 300 sustainable jobs.
Those jobs can be sustained permanently for eight years.
The first site at Ncera is at an advanced stage of
implementation, with 60% of the land cultivated and planted out
of which 80 hectares have already been sending tons of macadamia
nuts to the global markets since 2013. This site has also created
150 sustainable jobs and has a five-star graded nursery which
supplies trees to the macadamia industry in general.
The second site at Amajingqi on the Transkei Wild Coast, in
Willowvale, started planting trees in November 2015 and will have
7 500 trees planted on 300 hectares by the end of this year,
2016. The first group of 63 employees have secured sustainable
jobs and more jobs are to be created as the project progresses.
[Applause.]
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South Africa is leading the world in producing the highest
tonnage of macadamia nuts, followed by Australia and others.
Currently, the biggest macadamia-nut-producing provinces in South
Africa are Limpopo, followed by Mpumalanga, then KwaZulu-Natal.
The Eastern Cape is joining the industry through such an
innovative model which has attracted the attention of the mining
industry, ex-mineworkers and the Department of Mineral Resources.
This is viewed by the Department of Mineral Resources as an ideal
approach to empower ex-mineworkers.
The chief executive officers of the mining industries will be
visiting the Premier of the Eastern Cape tomorrow. The macadamia
initiative is among the key initiatives to be shared with the
mining industry. The current initiative in the Eastern Cape is
poised to create 1 200 new sustainable rural jobs with the
potential to create another 3 000 jobs if the Eastern Cape were
to exploit its full macadamia potential. [Applause.]
[Interjections.]
Another example that we are looking at, amongst other examples,
is the Mogalakwena Agricultural Community Co-operative Project.
This project by the Mogalakwena Platinum Mine pioneered a co-
operative training farm and training centre for the benefit of 32
villages with a population of 400 000 people. [Applause.]
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On beneficiation, Mr President, transformation in this industry
also requires the integrated development of mineral resources
through greater levels of value addition. Consequently, the
department is working with the Department of Trade and Industry
and the Department of Science and Technology in implementing
actions to advance beneficiation.
Through the Council for Mineral Technology, Mintek, government
has spearheaded the commissioning of a rare earth minerals-
refining pilot plant and has 20 more successful beneficiation
projects, most of which are rooted in townships and rural
communities.
We have also started in earnest the investigation of the
possibility of establishing a trading centre or bourse for key
minerals, and will begin consultations on this shortly.
The beneficiation of minerals does not only support our
industrial development aims in line with the National Development
Plan, or NDP, it also supports our aims and plans as regards food
and energy security. The Department of Mineral Resources will, to
this end, be prioritising, through the Council for Geoscience,
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the assessment of uranium, thorium and related mineral resources
in South Africa to support the diversification of our energy mix.
Now that time is not on my side, let me deal with the issue of
fuel cells. We have many successes, for instance in platinum fuel
cells, such as the Naledi Trust Community in Kroonstad which has
been powered by a 60-kVa peak-power fuel-cell system via a mini
grid. The system was designed, integrated and assembled in South
Africa by local engineering companies. The fuel cell plant mini
grid and reticulation were done by local companies including the
fabrication of methanol tanks.
Government also supported the demonstration of a 100-kilowatt
fuel cell plant at the Chamber of Mines. In addition, we
commissioned fuel cells in three schools in Cofimvaba, in the
Eastern Cape, to provide primary and standby power to rural
schools that are piloting the Department of Science and
Technology’s Technology for Rural Education and Development
programme, Tech4Red.
These fuel cells provide power to enable uninterrupted e-based
learning at the schools. The local fuel cells company, Clean
Energy Investments, co-owned by the Department of Science and
Technology, also installed a fuel cell for standby power at the
Windsor East Clinic, enabling uninterrupted service to patients.
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There are many more examples to demonstrate our local
capabilities.
Let me talk about the ex-mineworkers because the President has
touched on the issue of regulatory certainty, but also to say
that strengthening the participation in the mining and petroleum
sectors remains a priority for this government.
Through the African Exploration Mining and Finance Corporation
Bill, we aim to clarify and strengthen the role of the State-
Owned Mining Company, Somco. The State-Owned Mining Company Bill
has been published for public comment. The Bill establishes
legislatively the existing African Exploration Mining and Finance
Corporation, which already holds a healthy portfolio of mining
and prospecting rights, including an active coal mine that
started operating in 2010.
This company received its rights in terms of the Mineral and
Petroleum Resources Development Act. However, it is an
opportunity for established companies to establish joint-venture
operations with this company, consistent with the public-private
partnership model that proved successful here in South Africa and
in other sectors as well. In African jurisdictions, such as
Botswana, Namibia, Morocco, Niger and others, the state actively
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participates on a 50:50 basis and it stands that this company
will also make this success.
The question of transformation has been touched on; I will skip
it. On the ex-mineworkers, let me say the following. We have
continued with the activities covering the provision of health
and safety compensation services and access to other social
protection benefits to ex-mineworkers especially in the labour-
sending areas. We were supported by the Chamber of Mines and we
had outreach programmes in the Eastern Cape, the Western Cape,
the Northern Cape, Limpopo, KwaZulu-Natal, Mpumalanga and
Gauteng. Yesterday, we were at Engcobo in the Eastern Cape, and,
Minister Sisulu, the family sends their regards.
Another milestone that is still to be realised is the
strengthening of policy and legal frameworks for the compensation
of occupational injuries and diseases for mineworkers, which
remains a major challenge for the government.
The last point that I want to make, Mr President, is that, under
the leadership of Dr Motsoaledi, we have also started a process
of integrating the compensation laws in the country. We are on
track on this matter to ensure that we only do the best for the
workers of this country.
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So, hon members, because my time is up there were areas I didn’t
touch on, but I thank you very much for your attention.
[Applause.]
The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thank you, hon Oliphant. Hon Radebe, the hon
Deputy Minister is quite able to finish his own sentences. So, in
future, don’t help him when he doesn’t ask you.
Business suspended at 16:44 and resumed at 17:06.
The MINISTER OF TOURISM: Deputy Speaker, Your Excellency
President Zuma, hon members, hon President, let me start by
quoting two short sentences from your state of the nation
address: “We are proud of our democracy and what we have achieved
in a short space of time. Our democracy is functional, solid and
stable.” [Applause.] In this hard-fought-for democracy of ours
there have been many impressive achievements.
One of these great achievements is the way tourism has grown over
the past two decades. Tourism arrivals in South Africa have grown
from 3,9 million in 1994 to 8,9 million arrivals in 2015.
[Applause.] That is phenomenal growth! Tourism has truly become
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an immensely valuable treasure chest for our people, filled with
precious gems and opportunities.
And, right now, the opportunities in tourism are probably greater
than ever before. But, before I get there, a word or two about
our economy. We do have challenges; there is no escaping that.
Commodity prices have fallen dramatically, as Minister Rob Davies
highlighted earlier in this debate, and we are experiencing one
of the worst droughts our country has ever experienced. Not
surprisingly, our economic growth is just not where it should be.
We all know that. But we are sometimes guilty of seeing just the
negative. Our economic policies have stood up to the harshest of
tests. Our economy has proved to be very resilient. Growth is far
too low, but it remains positive. Two of our Brics partner
countries, that is the Brazil, Russia, India, China and South
Africa group - both very big economies - are in recession.
Having said that, the fact is that growth is not where it should
be to address the challenges of unemployment, poverty and
inequality. We need to respond in the right way to reduce our
debt and to get our economy on a higher growth path. That is
precisely what our ANC-led government is doing. In the midst of
these challenges we continue improving our roads and port
infrastructure. We continue building houses for our people and
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constructing dams. We are building hospitals and schools. That is
the good news. You will hear more about that tomorrow from
Minister Patel. Minister Pandor will tell you more tomorrow about
the Square Kilometre Array telescope, the biggest radio telescope
in the world by far designed by South Africans. [Applause.]
But we do need to identify opportunities to get out of this
sluggish growth rate and get onto a healthy growth path. And that
is truly where tourism comes into the picture. As it stands
today, across the value chain, about 1,5 million people are
employed in the tourism sector, directly and indirectly.
According to the Statistics SA Satellite Account, 655 000 people
were directly involved in producing goods and services provided
to tourists in 2013.
We are confident that tourism can grow rapidly, offering more of
our people work and livelihood opportunities. We are working
closely with the Ministry of Small Business Development to
stimulate the establishment of new SMMEs. Some of these small
businesses will become the big and successful big businesses of
the future.
Comrade President, in your address to the nation on Thursday you
said that “SA Tourism will invest R100 million a year to promote
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domestic tourism, encouraging South Africans to tour their
country.” Your emphasis on the importance of domestic tourism
came as music to the ears of all of us who are working in
tourism, who so passionately believe in the great value tourism
offers our country.
We can assure you, Mr President, that we are putting a great deal
of effort and resources into domestic tourism. We are determined
to make our iconic attractions accessible and affordable to all
our people.
More people should be able to travel to the Kruger National Park
to see the biggest wildlife extravaganza on earth. Our people
must have the opportunity to take the ferry to Robben Island and
experience the story of the triumph of the human spirit over
oppression.
Many more schoolchildren should be able to visit Mapungubwe and
to take pride in the history of this ancient African civilisation
that cast the Golden Rhino long before Africa was colonised. This
is our heritage, to be shared by all our people.
It is fitting that your words, Mr President, were spoken on the
day that we were commemorating the release from prison of our
first president, Nelson Mandela. This is exactly what our icon
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and leader, Madiba, would have wanted for his people: that all
South Africans, regardless of economic status, should be able to
enjoy our beautiful country and rich heritage. And, indeed, this
is what this ANC-led government promises to work at, together
with our partners in business.
We will soon announce some exciting new measures to make our
world-famous tourism attractions and iconic sites more accessible
to all South Africans. We will not be able to achieve this goal
overnight, but we are deeply committed to making this dream a
reality for all our people. We will apply the R100 million you
referred to, Mr President, creatively, and it will be backed up
by a vigorous marketing campaign.
Around the country, our hotels, B&Bs, restaurants and tourist
attractions did a roaring trade over this festive season. You’ve
seen it. Some of you went to restaurants, and some of you tried
to make bookings and you couldn’t get in. The best news is that
this recovery translates into jobs - a lot of jobs.
For every tourist who occupies a bed, there is someone to make
that bed, to cook, and to serve meals. Behind every tourist is a
long line of people who benefit from a long list of jobs. Some
supply fresh produce to restaurants; others make furniture for
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hotels. Some are tourist guides who tell our remarkable story to
the world.
With more tourists coming to South Africa and more South Africans
touring their own country, we can help break the back of
unemployment in our country. That is why every tourist counts.
That is why it is so important for every person who has a job in
tourism to do it well, and that is why the Department of Tourism
is training our people in service excellence.
The Kruger National Park welcomed 6% more visitors last year than
in 2014. In December, the astonishing rock formations at Bourke’s
Luck Potholes attracted 40% more visitors than the previous
December.
In the Eastern Cape, Premier, the Camdeboo National Park welcomed
20% more visitors this December compared to 2014. No less than 4
000 people experienced the thrill of bungee jumping at the
Bloukrans Bridge last year, and about 200 000 people visited the
nearby Khoisan Village for a unique cultural experience.
In the Northern Cape more than 12 000 people visited the
Augrabies Falls in December - a 10% growth on December 2014. The
Noord-Kaapenaars here will be pleased that the Northern Cape was
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named yesterday by Rough Guide as one of the top regions in the
world to visit in 2016! [Applause.] Waar is julle, Noord-
Kaapenaars? [Where are you, Northern Capers?] In KwaZulu-Natal,
the number of visitors to the iSimangaliso Wetland Park grew by
8% over last year.
Tourists are increasingly seeking adventure and cultural
experiences in rural areas, off the beaten path, and businesses
are adapting to serve their needs. More people from around the
world are eager to experience the amazing things we have to
offer. This brings me, hon President, to another thing you said
in your state of the nation address. You said: “We must take
advantage of the exchange rate as well as the recent changes to
our visa regulations to boost inbound tourism.”
Indeed, hon members, the exchange rate is making a Sho’t Left
very attractive for South Africans. For visitors the exchange
rate coupled with the recent changes to the visa regulations
offer massive opportunities for growth in international arrivals.
Everything points to 2016 being a bumper year for tourism in
South Africa.
The Departments of Tourism and Home Affairs are working closely
to implement the Cabinet decisions on visa regulations. Travel
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companies in China have already been accredited to submit visa
applications on behalf of travellers. We expect very strong
growth from the Chinese market in the future. The same visa
application process will soon apply to India as well, and the
same result is expected.
While it is true that many factors affect tourism numbers, these
changes are important and in line with multilateral agreements in
the United Nations World Tourism Organisation, the UNWTO, which
advocates ease of travel as a means to promote tourism
development and multiply its socioeconomic benefits, without
compromising safety.
Last year: 2015, Mr President, indeed, was not a good year for
tourism in our country. According to Statistics SA data, tourism
arrivals from the top nine countries requiring visas saw a year-
on-year decline of 20% in 2014 and a further 7% in 2015. However,
in the last quarter of 2015 there was 14% growth in arrivals from
these visa-requiring countries. This is good news ... [Applause.]
... and I have no doubt that tourism numbers will dramatically
increase given the improvements in ease of travel and other
conducive factors.
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In fact, all indications are that we now have ideal conditions
for growth in in-bound tourism. Growth means more decent jobs for
our people. Tourism contributed R357 billion to our GDP in 2014,
and supported 9% of total employment. The World Travel and
Tourism Council estimates that by 2025 tourism will contribute
R590 billion to our GDP and will support over two million jobs.
Mr President, this is the World Travel and Tourism Council’s
estimate; it’s not my view. Many of us are convinced that we can
do even better than that.
Our ANC-led government knows what needs to be done to put our
economy back on a stronger growth path, and it is systematically
putting all the building blocks in place. We know what we have to
do to achieve inclusive and sustainable growth in tourism. We so
often forget what a special country we live in. Sometimes it
takes someone from outside to remind us that we are so blessed to
live in such a beautiful country. [Applause.]
Recently, the influential BuzzFeed site voted South Africa as the
most beautiful country in the world. The most beautiful country
in the world! [Applause.] Our African sister countries also fared
very well: Namibia, Kenya and Tanzania were all on the top 10
list.
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The people of Africa are rising. The continent is attracting
investment from around the world and opening the doors for
tourism. Tourism can convert the natural beauty and cultural
heritage of our country and our continent into an astounding
economic and social success for all our people.
We offer tourists unique and meaningful experiences. Tourists
remember them forever, and they will tell others about them. And
through the actual experience of our country, perceptions change.
Our eight World Heritage Sites, ranging from Mapungubwe in the
north to Robben Island in the south, from iSimangaliso in the
east to the Richtersveld in the west, each tell us a unique story
of our rich natural and cultural history.
We have become known as a country that offers the most diverse
and exciting tourism experiences. You can dive with sharks in the
Atlantic Ocean off Cape Town. [Interjections.] The President is
not here. I invite the Deputy President to join me in a bit of
shark-cage diving. The President will be invited to do some
bungee jumping with me. [Laughter.] You can hike in the silent
magnificence of the Drakensberg Mountains, or cycle through the
bustle of Soweto. While you’re in Soweto, you can experience the
culture of Vilakazi Street, the only street in the world that was
once home to two Nobel Peace Prize winners. [Applause.]
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Hotels, high-end properties and game lodges were in great demand
over the peak season. This suggests that there are attractive
investment opportunities in these segments. Bookings from our
core markets, including the United Kingdom, the United States of
America and Europe, increased, and guests are booking longer
stays and spending more money during their stays. Our tourism
businesses have done well in difficult times. We commend them for
their hard work and perseverance, and for their commitment to
attracting more tourists to our shores.
Mr President, we have said consistently in our manifestos and our
National Development Plan, the NDP, that it is through working
together that we can make South Africa a truly great country for
everybody. I am pleased to inform you that there is a healthy
partnership between business and government in the tourism
sector. We are jointly striving to achieve the inclusive growth
of the sector and to create more jobs and opportunities for all
our people.
Our excellent performance in business events shows what an
important driver of growth this segment has become. South Africa
has been ranked number one in Africa for international meetings
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and events, and we are steadily climbing up the ladder of
international rankings for business events. [Applause.]
The growth of tourism depends on healthy co-operation between all
three spheres of government. We are working together to create
new experiences and to crowd in tourism activities around our
mega attractions. To mention a few examples: the Departments of
Environmental Affairs and of Tourism are collaborating to develop
a Wild Activity Hub at Phalaborwa in the Kruger National Park. We
have also joined forces with the Department of Trade and Industry
to unlock the full potential of the Oceans Economy. And we have
teamed up with the Department of Arts and Culture to improve the
visitor experience at Robben Island.
We are pleased to announce, Mr President, that we have begun the
work to install a solar energy system to replace Robben Island’s
reliance on diesel generators. [Applause.] You can expect an
invitation when we officially switch to the solar system later
this year. We know that Robben Island is close to your heart. You
lived there for a number of years, admittedly not by choice. Now,
millions of people from all over the world want to visit this
iconic World Heritage Site by choice.
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Our country not only shares with the world a rich history of
ancient civilisations, struggles of resistance, peaceful
transition to democracy under the leadership of the ANC, but also
tells the story of our shared ancestry and common humanity. It
all began in Africa.
In Gauteng the discovery of Homo naledi resulted in a visitor
rush to Maropeng in the Cradle of Humankind, which had a year-on-
year increase in visitor numbers of 22%. This is one gem that
will continue sparkling for decades to come.
Mr President, we are collectively buoyant, confident and
optimistic about the growth prospects for tourism in our country.
But we are not sitting back and waiting for it to happen. We are
working hard to make it happen. [Applause.] We are removing the
barriers that could stand in the way of tourism growth. We are
training people to improve what is already an excellent standard
of service in our country. We are working hard to enhance our
destinations and our offerings to make our visitor experience an
unforgettable one. And we are intensifying our marketing efforts
to bring more and more people to our magnificent country.
We are striving to become one of the top 20 destinations in the
world. And in the pursuit of these goals, we will create jobs and
lasting benefits for millions of our people. Through tourism, we
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will share our proud stories of liberation and reconciliation
with the people of the world. Through tourism, we will contribute
to global peace and friendship. We will share with the world our
warmth and our spirit of ubuntu.
We are acutely aware though, Mr President, that our tourism
sector is not as inclusive as it should be - that there is a need
for meaningful transformation in the sector. In this regard we
are proud to announce that the new BBBEE codes are designed to
accelerate transformation by including more black people
throughout the tourism value chain, and that the Charter Council
was the first to table these new codes. They will help us to
develop black-owned suppliers and enterprises, which in turn will
support jobs and grow communities. The codes will also help to
empower black women to take up executive management and
leadership positions in tourism. So, if you don’t make it back to
Parliament, you know where to go. Go to tourism – there is a
great career waiting for you. [Applause.]
We need constant innovation to convert our challenges into
opportunities. We have excellent tourism assets, we have a good
performance record and we have great potential for the future.
More importantly, we have dedicated people in the tourism sector
and in other sectors of our economy, who are working hard to make
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South Africa a better place for everyone. We must stand together
to combat all attempts to derail us from moving our country and
our economy forward.
One thing that should be said, Mr President, is that all the good
work that this ANC-led government is doing stands to be
undermined by illegal activities. Wherever this happens, we must
all stand together and put our country first. Drugs rob our youth
of their future. Illicit traders threaten our collective
livelihood. Operation Fiela was launched to combat attitudes of
impunity and intolerance that had threatened the rule of law in
some parts of our county. Our government acted swiftly and
decisively to stabilise the situation, and developed an
integrated national action plan to reassert the authority of the
state. Between April and November last year, over 3 000
operations were conducted under the action plan. Over 40 000
arrests were made, vehicles were impounded and firearms
confiscated. Large quantities of drugs were found before they
could make their way onto the streets and wreak their damage,
especially among our young people. [Applause.]
Operation Fiela has helped to reinstate the rule of law in many
communities, and our people and our visitors can now feel much
safer. As we intensify our efforts around Operation Fiela, we are
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restoring an environment which is conducive to investment in
tourism and the growth of our economy. “Well done” to our
Minister of Police and all the dedicated policemen and
policewomen who are carrying out this operation.
Getting back to tourism: With all the tremendous opportunities
that tourism offers to help get our country on a stronger growth
path, we must now stand together to build a tourism nation.
That’s what we need: a tourism nation. We are all brand
ambassadors for our sector and for our beautiful country. People
who come to South Africa as tourists could well return as
investors, if they believe that their investments will be secure.
Let’s not wait for BuzzFeed to declare us the most beautiful
country in the world. Let’s shout it from our own rooftops and
billboards. Tourism gives us hope for the future. We need to stay
positive and keep doing constructive things to build the sector
together.
To conclude: We do have challenges in our economy, and we do
stand to lose jobs in the mining sector. That’s the reality. But
we can more than compensate for these possible job losses by
getting greater numbers of tourists visiting our country. That’s
the truth! We must now remove all obstacles in the way of tourism
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growth. We must intensify our marketing efforts, and we must make
the visitor experience a wonderful one. Thank you, Chair. [Time
expired.] [Applause.]
Mr R A P TROLLIP: Hon Deputy Speaker, what happened last Thursday
might have created the misguided perception that the extent of
state capture is driven by one family, the fact is, it is not.
The truth is that it has systematically been captured by a number
of families in the senior ANC leadership echelon and their
friends, led inimitably by Jacob Zuma and abetted by the ANC
itself. This was declared unambiguously when the President said
that the ANC comes first, and you all nodded. Therefore, it is
safe to say that your President, due to his despicable political
chicanery, has no one to blame but himself. [Interjections.]
Mr Z M D MANDELA: Hon Deputy Speaker, on a point of order:
Perhaps the hon Trollip’s absence in the House has led him to
forget that it is “His Excellency President Zuma” and not “Zuma”.
[Interjections.]
The DEPUTY SPEAKER: Go ahead, hon member. It’s “the President”;
he’s right.
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Mr R A P TROLLIP: Uyayazi ukuba iyandikhuthaza loo nto ... [Do
you know that encourages me ...]
...because it shows that change does happen. Since I left this
House some members have been convicted and converted.
Inguqu ifikile. [Kwaqhwatywa, kwahlekwa.] [Change has arrived.
[Applause, laughter.]]
Therefore, it is safe to say to your President that due to his
despicable political chicanery he has no one to blame but himself
for having to present his state of the nation address from behind
unprecedented barbed wire and steel barricades.
Lihlazo elo. [That is a disgrace.]
The fact that your address did not live up to the nation’s
expectations was best described by Aubrey Matshiqi who said: “You
have not convinced the poor and jobless that anything will be
better.” You will know this in August, hon President, when the
elections will toll the end of your presidency. You ironically
declared that some people don’t understand politics and that they
move with the wind, being blown this way and that.
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Die beskrywing is van toepassing op u, want dit is u wat heen en
weer gewaai word deur die politieke winde soos ’n rolbos in die
woestyn. [It is an apt description with regard to yourself,
because it is you who is being swept to and fro by political
winds like tumbleweed in the desert.]
What you and your government have come to represent is like the
Long Parliament of Oliver Cromwell had become when he brought it
to an end, saying:
It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this
place, which you have dishonoured by your contempt of all
virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice. You are the
enemies of all good governance.
He went on to tell them and remind them, “You, who were deputed
here by the people to get grievances redressed.” You, sir, like
them, have not redressed the people’s grievances. You have
compounded them and, worse, you laugh about it. To add insult to
this neglect, you and your party have spawned a form of
despicable and vitriolic racial fascism that has been fermenting
in the ANC during your term of office, which is now sweeping
across this country like a toxic red tide. [Interjections.]
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Ngabazukulwana benu aba. [Uwelewele.] [These are your
grandchildren.] [Interjections.]]
You should be ashamed of undoing President Mandela’s example and
legacy in this fashion. Your unabashed performance here last
week, when you addressed us without so much as a hint of an
apology for your premeditated deceit, was a disgrace. Yes, can
you believe that? Can you believe that you could come here and
present that without even so much as an apology? [Interjections.]
In this regard, I brought a handkerchief for your footman.
Ndiphathele uMphathiswa uNhleko le tshefu ukuze akwazi ... [I
brought this handkerchief for Minister Nhleko so that ...]
...when Minister Nhleko has to tell the nation that what he
described as a fire pool is, in actual fact, what we all knew it
was: a swimming pool, he ’i going to need this handkerchief.
[Applause.]
Nabanye kuza kufuneka ukuba bafumane iitshefu. [And others too,
they will have to get handkerchiefs.]
The other people that need to get a handkerchief are the hon
Nxesi, the hon Sizani, the hon Motshekga and the hon Frolic, and
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in fact, the rest of the ad hoc committee. They all need a
handkerchief to wipe the egg off their faces. [Laughter.]
Yima khe ndicebise maan, thengani iitshefu nonke ukuze nikwazi
ukosula iqanda ebusweni benu. [Kwaqhwatywa.] [Let me give you an
advice, you all need to buy handkerchiefs to wipe the egg off
your faces. [Applause.]]
The President had the temerity, after one long overdue meeting
with business leaders, with the private sector, to come here and
tell us about business and economics - when he and his tripartite
partners malign business so easily at their meetings and rallies
- that the reasons for the parlous state of our economy are the
global headwinds of slowed growth and international recession.
The President clearly didn’t take this new-found economic wisdom
into account when he fired Minister Nene and replaced him with
his straw man, the now proverbial “weekend special”. [Laughter.]
His response that the nation and the markets had overreacted is
what makes whatever he said about fiscal discipline and prudence
completely incongruent.
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Mongameli, awuthembakalanga wena kwimicimbi yezezimali.
[President, you are not trustworthy when it comes to financial
issues.]
The President’s lack of credibility is sadly not only limited to
the realm of economics. Politically, he has left a trail of
broken promises and hamstrung administrations in all three
spheres of government, especially in the Eastern Cape and Nelson
Mandela Bay where I come from. Despite what the hon Masualle said
here, I have seen no evidence of the nine-point plan to eradicate
poverty and create jobs.
Andikaboni kwanto mna. [Kwaqhwatywa.] [I haven’t seen anything
yet. [Applause.]]
The President’s lack of example and leadership has led to
factional chaos and management ineptitude at all levels of
government. In the Eastern Cape, the shame of blatant state
larceny, that is: theft, in the name of none other than President
Mandela’s fraudulent funeral saga, remains unresolved.
Your party insiders have also been directly responsible and
implicated in the notorious multimillion-rand Siyenza Group
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toilet fraud scandal. [Interjections.] Here, too, there have been
no consequences whatsoever ...
...kwaba bantu babesitya laa mali. [... to the people who
squandered that money.]
The President didn’t say one word to us about what he expects
municipalities to do under the leadership of his newly retreaded
Minister. Nelson Mandela Bay has an unemployment rate of 36,6%
and youth unemployment of 47,3%.
Abaphangeli abantu eBhayi. [People in Port Elizabeth are
unemployed.]
And this city has two major ports, an established motor industry,
the Coega Industrial Development Zone, and the much- vaunted
Phakisa initiative which is a potential tourism Mecca - maybe the
hon Minister who was here should go and visit Port Elizabeth -
and yet the ANC cannot create jobs in Port Elizabeth. Why?
Because it is too busy navel-gazing and squabbling over political
patronage. [Time expired.] [Applause.]
Mr J MAMABOLO (Gauteng): Hon Deputy Speaker of the National
Assembly, President Jacob Zuma, Deputy President Cyril Ramaphosa,
Ministers, Deputy Ministers, hon members, ladies and gentlemen,
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kindly allow me first to convey the sincere apology of the
Premier of Gauteng hon David Makhura. The premier would have
really loved to be here and I am glad to convey his apology.
[Interjections.]
I feel honoured and privileged to be afforded a rare opportunity,
a rare moment, to make a few remarks contributing to the state of
the nation address. We congratulate and, without doubt, marvel at
the remarkable excellence with which the President found the
primary pulse for a radical economic turnaround of our country.
This is consistent with the view of the ANC, shared by all its
alliance partners, of a second radical phase of the national
democratic revolution. We say this aware that there are those who
are hellbent - and who have made it their preoccupation and point
of daily obsession - on ridiculing and slandering in order to
find fault with what the President says. These permanently
doubting Thomases and prophets of doom are required by their
paymasters to construct fault where they clearly cannot find one.
[Applause.]
The President correctly articulated the economic challenges
facing our country as a result of a number of factors, including
external economic shocks. The hon President then made a profound
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call and said, “The situation requires an effective turnaround
plan from all of us.”
The President further eloquently made a point in terms of what
would certainly make a qualitative difference. He said, and I
quote: ”First, our country remains an attractive investment
destination. It may face challenges, but its positive attributes
far outweigh those challenges.” This point was well articulated
by hon Deputy Minister Oliphant.
Hon President, for us as the province of Gauteng, a province that
is growing fast and urbanising fast, we are really interested in
what you defined as the positive attributes that far outweigh the
challenges that our economy faces.
Now, let me say that in Gauteng ... This is consistent, hon
President, with an article that appeared in yesterday’s Business
Report of The Star by Joe Brook, who indicated that the
international trend currently to grow economies and create jobs
was to look at a city-by-city point, and that there there were
great opportunities for what you referred to, hon President, as
the positive attributes for economic growth. In that regard, as
Gauteng province, of course urbanising and having many cities, we
want to agree, hon President, that the positive attributes to
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grow our economy lie in working with the cities. You will
certainly agree, hon members: we have many in our province.
We have studied and analysed the immense opportunities for growth
in each one of these cities and we are confident, hon President,
that we will respond positively to your call for a turnaround and
to make sure that we maximise the opportunities provided by what
you defined as the positive attributes that far outweigh the
challenges we have. [Applause.]
Hon members, allow me to articulate and to present to you the
vision of our province, well presented by Premier David Makhura
in the past two years, a vision that we call transformation,
modernisation and the reindustrialisation of Gauteng as an
internationally competitive city region.
In this regard, hon President, our province has achieved a lot
thus far in the past two years we have been in office. Firstly,
we have presented to our people what we call the Transformation,
Modernisation and Reindustrialisation perspective, the TMR
perspective.
We can say without any doubt that the overwhelming majority of
the people in our province, the key role-players in the economy,
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have all welcomed - in the most popular and in the most
resonating way - the TMR strategy in our province. We are very
glad that the TMR strategy constitutes a point of hope for the
overwhelming majority of our people.
Secondly, hon President, we have built a relationship of trust
with our communities. This we did by establishing what we call
the Ntirhisano Service Delivery War Room. To this extent, hon
President, there are independent research organisations that have
confirmed that we have politically stabilised the province of
Gauteng. We have significantly reduced the number of protests,
especially sustained violent protests in our province. Our
province is very stable, hon President. [Applause.]
Thirdly, we have created technical capacity within organs of the
state, working with our municipalities to make sure that we
promptly respond to the challenge you outlined of a radical
turnaround of our economy. As we speak, hon President, the
Gauteng province has completed integrated planning with our
municipalities to make sure that we roll out the TMR perspective
across all our municipalities and in terms of what we call the
five corridors of development.
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Whilst appreciating that Premier David Makhura will lead the rest
of the province on Monday in outlining all the packaged projects
for radical economic transformation, let me just share with you
two of the most important key infrastructure projects that we
will soon be rolling out. In the Western corridor in the West
Rand region, we have a project which we are going to launch, the
first post-apartheid city in the area known as Syferfontein. This
is the first democratic post-apartheid city that will make an
impact on the city of Johannesburg, Westonaria, Randfontein
Municipalities, Merafong and Mogale City Local Municipalities.
[Applause.]
Now, hon President, we would like to invite government on all
levels to partner with us to make sure that we realise the first
post-apartheid city led by the democratic government.
The second major project we have is what we call the Kopanong
Precinct. This is a multibillion-rand investment project to
revitalise the inner city of Johannesburg. Working with the city
and the private sector, we are going to invest in revitalising
and renewing the inner city of Johannesburg. And we are
definitely sure, hon President, that this mega-infrastructure
project will turn around the economy of Gauteng. [Applause.]
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Hon President, allow me to also say that as part of the TMR
perspective in our province, we would like to invite you and, of
course, the rest of Cabinet to engage with the province on the
concept of the township economy. More often when we talk about
township economy, people mistakenly believe that we are talking
about minor interventions that will have no bearing on the
outlook of the spatial legacy of apartheid in our townships. I
must say, we as the provincial government of Gauteng, working
with our municipalities, are going to leverage the government’s
infrastructure investment portfolio to make sure that we
radically turn around and change the balance sheet and expand the
property assets of our townships, and, in that way, we are quite
sure that we will create people’s property as a source of
people’s power.
Now, let me conclude, hon President, by welcoming a very
important intervention you mentioned. You actually invited
Parliament to consider “a big expenditure item” that we would
like to persuade Parliament to consider ...
The MINISTER OF SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT: Hon Chair ...
Mr J MAMABOLO (Gauteng): ... is the main maintenance ...
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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Mamabolo, please take your seat.
Hon Zulu?
The MINISTER OF SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT: Thank you, hon
Chairperson. Would the member take a question?
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Mamabolo, are you prepared to
take a question?
Mr J MAMABOLO (Gauteng): Yes, hon Chair, I am prepared to take a
question.
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Zulu, he is prepared to take a
question.
The MINISTER OF SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT: Thank you very much.
Hon Mamabolo, I would like to ask you what you would say to the
people of South Africa about the dishonourable, despicable
behaviour ... [Interjections.] of the members of this House who
continue to insult, disrespect and agitate against the President
of the country. What would you say to that? [Applause.]
[Interjections.]
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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order! Order! Hon Mamabolo, you are
on the podium.
Mr J MAMABOLO (Gauteng): Thank you, hon Minister, for a very
profound question which ... [Interjections.] ... I am quite sure
worries many of the people of our country. [Interjections.] But
let me say that from the point of view of our province, we are
deeply concerned and very worried ... [Interjections.] ... about
the emergence of extremely backward, neofascist and racist
tendencies that are degenerating ... [Applause.] ... the capacity
of this House to serve our people.
We have observed that there are people who have made this their
daily business. These are fanatics of violence, of racism, that
have nothing to offer this House. [Applause.] All they provide
are insults and violence. The majority of our people may not have
the opportunity to express themselves, but they will do so during
the next local government elections. [Applause.] They will send
them to the dustbin of history, as has happened with many
fanatics of violence. So, we are very pleased that history will
treat them in exactly the same way it has treated the same people
with the same tendencies. And we are confident that we will move
forward.
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Let me conclude by saying that the province of Gauteng is ready,
hon President, using our infrastructure investment portfolio, to
host what will be the first democratically constructed real
people’s Parliament, which I hope you will come to. [Applause.]
We are pleased to say ...
Mr J W JULIUS: Chairperson ...
Mr J MAMABOLO (Gauteng): ... consistent with the character of
what we have said in the province of mega human settlement.
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Mamabolo, please take your seat.
Hon Julius?
Mr J W JULIUS: Chair, I just wanted to know whether the hon
Mamabolo will take a question on the whereabouts of the Premier
of Gauteng, whether he will not ... [Interjections.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Julius, that’s not a question.
Hon Mamabolo, please continue.
Mr J MAMABOLO (Gauteng): Thank you very much, hon Chair. Let me
say that our province is ready to make sure that we host you.
Remember that Gauteng has been declared the best province to work
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and live in. [Applause.] We are ready, hon President, for you to
come to Gauteng, and we will build the best, most beautiful
Parliament whose look and feel will make sure that hon members
would be ashamed to disrupt and to make insults in. The quicker
and faster you move the better, Mr President, because our
province is ready. Thank you. [Applause.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Thank you, sir. [Applause.]
Mr I M OLLIS: Chairperson ...
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: I now recognise the hon Davis.
Mr I M OLLIS: Chairperson, just on a point of order. I don’t ...
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Davis, please take your seat.
Mr I M OLLIS: I didn’t want to interrupt the previous speaker,
nor the current one. Regarding the point you just ruled on, I am
yet to be in this House when a person asks a question and it’s
ruled as not a question. The procedure is normally to ask the
Speaker whether or not they will take a question? Since when does
the presiding officer decide on the content of a question?
[Interjections.]
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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Thank you, hon member. Please take
your seat.
Mr I M OLLIS: Could you reply to me, please? [Interjections.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Please take your seat.
Mr I M OLLIS: I would like a reply, please. [Interjections.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Please take your seat.
[Interjections.]
Mr I M OLLIS: I have raised a point of order ... [Interjections.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: You did.
Mr I M OLLIS: You need to rule. [Interjections.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Take your seat, so that I can
respond to you. [Interjections.] Order, members! The hon Julius
did ask to put a question to the hon member who was on the
podium. The question he put to the member on the podium was to
ask the member to speculate as to where his premier was? And I
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disallowed that question. Hon Davis, please continue.
[Interjections.]
Mr G R DAVIS: Madam Chairperson, today, as we debate the state of
the nation, we stand in solidarity with the 8,3 million South
Africans without jobs ... [Interjections.] [Applause.] ... and we
recognise the role that education can play in job creation and in
redressing the legacy of the past.
As the Supreme Court of Appeal said last year, basic education is
the primary driver of transformation in South Africa. And yet,
last week, in his state of the nation address, President Zuma
said nothing about basic education. Nothing! We spend
R203 billion per annum on basic education. It is the biggest line
item in the budget, but the President had nothing to say about
it. The matric results released last month showed a national
decline from 75% to 70%, but the President said nothing.
Every province, except the Western Cape, performed worse than the
previous year, but the President said nothing. And there were 22
schools across the country that recorded a pass rate of 0%.
Imagine that: a school where not one learner passes, but the
President remained silent. [Interjections.]
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The President was silent on Thursday because he is not in charge
of education. Minister Motshekga is not in charge of education.
In most provinces, the MECs are not in charge of education.
Because, in most parts of the country, it is the SA Democratic
Teachers Union, Sadtu, that is in charge of education.
Three weeks ago, we visited rural schools in KwaZulu-Natal. Now,
government officials there told us how Sadtu teachers drop their
own children off at former model C schools in the morning and
then go on strike for the day, depriving other people’s children
of an education. One district director described it as, and I
quote, “the highest level of cruelty”. We heard how, in the Ugu
district, there was no teaching for seven months over the past
two years because of a dispute between Sadtu and a district
director. Seven months; no teaching. Is it any wonder that
KwaZulu-Natal was the worst-performing province?
We visited Bhekisizwe High School in the Umzinyathi district. We
heard how teachers go on holiday two weeks before the term ends,
and come back two weeks after the term starts. And they get away
with it. At Dumaphansi Secondary, 146 learners have written
matric maths in the past three years, but not one learner has
passed. And guess what? Not one teacher has been fired for
underperformance.
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The reason for the high failure rate in the province was summed
up by a district director who told us, and I am quoting him, “Our
teachers are not teaching; that’s the bottom line. Organised
labour has taken over the system. Until we correct that, we are
wasting our time.”
Now, there are many hardworking and dedicated teachers in our
country, and we pay tribute to them. But we have to be honest
about this: There are too many teachers who can’t teach, and
there are too many teachers who won’t teach. And they are never
held to account because they are members of Sadtu and Sadtu is an
alliance partner of the ANC.
Minister Motshekga will soon table the so-called “jobs-for-cash”
report in this House. It has taken nearly two years for the task
team to complete its work, but we have reason to believe that the
wait was worth it. The report will show how Sadtu-aligned
officials arrange teaching posts for Sadtu members in exchange
for cash. It will show how Sadtu has captured six of the nine
provincial government departments. Six of them are under the
control of Sadtu. It will show that, in these provinces, Sadtu
runs a protection racket where underperforming teachers are
protected because they are members of Sadtu. It will show how
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Sadtu uses militancy to exert pressure on its members to be
unionists first and professionals second.
The conclusion is clear: For Sadtu bosses, loyalty to the union
is prized over loyalty to the children of this country. And if
you’re a Sadtu member looking for a promotion, it’s better to be
on the streets picketing than in the classroom teaching.
President Zuma, we know this is a difficult time for you, and we
know you need all the friends in the alliance you can get, but if
you won’t put South Africa first, at least put the children of
this country first. [Applause.] Break your silence on Thursday.
Tell us what you will do to smash the Sadtu protection racket, so
that we can improve the education of every child in our country.
I thank you. [Applause.]
Mr N T GODI: Madam Chair, Comrade President, comrades and hon
members, the APC represents a historical, political and
ideological current of Africanism. As the torchbearers of
Africanism, the APC represents a continuum of the likes of Anton
Lembede, A P Mda, Robert Sobukwe and that erudite Africanist
intellectual, Peter Raboroko. Africanism, as understood and
articulated by the APC, is Pan-Africanist in scope, socialist in
content, humanist in orientation and creative in purpose.
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I stand here in memory of the late Robert Simangaliso Sobukwe, a
great patriot and outstanding leader who passed away on
27 February 1978, whose life and legacy the APC celebrates
throughout the month of February. Through the force of example of
his personal integrity, he serves as the embodiment of the best
product of the liberation movement, of leadership and our
responsibility to our people — as he said — completely
subjugating the self and having a consuming love for our people.
Comrade President, we concur with you, racism is backward and
hurtful. Let us take from Sobukwe’s teaching that there is only
one race, the human race to which we all belong. This is what can
save us from the racism that the majority of white South Africans
... and the xenophobic statements from one political party in
this House.
The APC is concerned about the persistently high unemployment
levels, poverty and inequality affecting the majority of our
people. Whilst we appreciate the unfavourable international
economic environment, the APC believes that, in this situation,
taking the historical context into account, the state must
enhance its role in the economy. Twenty-two years later, private
capital has failed this democracy. The state must have the
courage and determination to lead.
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The grinding poverty of our people is a crisis that requires bold
state action. Freedom must have material meaning to the lives of
our people. We must never get used to the poverty and hardships
of our people.
As Lenin said, “No amount of political freedom will satisfy the
hungry masses.” The African people deserve better. I thank you.
[Applause.]
Mr S G MTHIMUNYE: Madam Chair of the NCOP, I want to correct one
thing: The SA Democratic Teachers Union is not aligned to the
ANC. [Interjections.] It is Cosatu that is aligned to the ANC.
[Interjections.] I hope the poor member of the DA gets his
politics correct. [Interjections.]
The second point I want to correct ...
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order! Don’t drown out the speaker
on the podium.
Mr S G MTHIMUNYE: ... is that the matric exam results fluctuate
all the time from province to province. We have seen that over
the years. In 2014 we had the Free State leading the country in
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terms of matric results, but we never blew our own trumpet about
it. The Western Cape therefore is no exception. We can only
congratulate you ... [Interjections.] ... because we are not
jealous as the ANC.
Change does not simply involve a slow and continual increase or
decrease in growth. At a certain point new qualities emerge as a
sharp rupture with the past and a leap into the future. The
foregoing has been the political situation in South Africa in
terms of the first phase of our democratic transition from
apartheid and colonialism to a national democratic society. In
the same vein, while not gainsaying the challenges we face, the
second phase - whose focus is on economic transformation for the
reversal of the legacy of colonialism of a special type - should
demonstrate a quantitative incremental change culminating in a
qualitative leap.
It is without doubt that the statutory pillars of apartheid or
colonialism were felt by the adoption of the new Constitution of
1996. What is of critical significance with the Constitution is
that in section 9(2) it entrenches substantive equality and
further privileges for justifiable socioeconomic rights. It is
noteworthy that while a positive obligation is cast on the state
to promote and fulfil the rights as contained in the Bill of
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Rights, equality in this respect cannot, substantively, be
removed from economic redress imperatives. The state is empowered
by the Constitution to take measures designed to advance persons
disadvantaged by the unfair discrimination of the past.
Madam Chair, the ANC-led government is pursuing economic
transformation as inspired by the vision of the Freedom Charter
and its second transition document: that the people shall share
in the wealth of the country. There have been advances made in
the provision of essential services to the people, but the
structure of the economy remains largely untransformed, with
monopolies abusing their dominance over small enterprises and
sometimes driving them completely out of the market or into
bankruptcy through anticompetitive practices that are well known
by yourself and those you represent.
It is still correct to contend that the major part of the economy
remains in private hands. The ANC is therefore committed to
employment-creating economic growth and protecting the right to
fair labour practices. The state is being capacitated to rely
less on tendering and to deliver essential services to the people
by itself. Economic development priorities favour local
companies, co-operatives and social forms of ownership. There is
an intention to ensure beneficiation of primary goods including
strategic minerals in the country. State-owned enterprises, or
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SOEs, and the development finance institutions are being
strengthened to ensure that they play a key role in economic
development and facilitating service delivery.
Economic transformation requires steps that effect quantitative
changes towards a qualitative leap into which prosperity is
equitably distributed across racial and gender lines. To achieve
economic equity, South Africa requires that steps be taken to
transform the structure of the economy to render it broader and
more inclusive. In transforming the structure of the economy, the
developmental state must consolidate and advance development and
ensure a better life for all in a South Africa that truly belongs
to all who live in it, black or white.
The fact is the economy of the country remains in the control of
private hands which are dominantly expatriate capital. The 70% of
the economy in private hands by extension implies that there can
be little economic transformation without private-sector co-
operation. However, the private sector appears more driven by
profit accumulation than it is by social transformation
imperatives.
The ANC by character is biased towards the poor and the working
class. However, the obtaining conditions at national and global
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spheres by far require the ANC government to be more cautious in
advancing economic transformation. The vexing question therefore
is whether the ANC is expediting the full emancipation of our
people from the legacy of colonialism of a special type. Indeed,
the dialectical nature of the ANC character, being the
disciplined force of the left, neither bows to the market forces
dictating that everyone should care only for themselves nor
embraces the adventuristic antics of the extreme left that seek
the immediate obliteration of capitalism.
South Africa’s role in the global arena extends beyond economic
diplomacy to creating a more just economic world order. The ANC-
led South African government secures national interests while
contributing to building an integrated African economy through,
amongst other things, regional economic integration. The Freedom
Charter envisages peace and friendship amongst nations through
social justice. It is in pursuit of this noble goal that the ANC-
led government continues to build strong South-to-South relations
and to promote North-to-South relations, while advocating for the
transformation of global economic institutions like the World
Bank, the World Trade Organisation and the International Monetary
Fund.
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South Africa and other African countries are in the process of
transforming their economies from being predominantly reliant on
the export of raw material to efficiently beneficiating their
primary goods to prop up their export value. There is thus
gradual economic growth and development on the continent, albeit
from a low base for some countries. It should, however, be
highlighted that some parts of the continent are politically
unstable owing, in the main, to extremism, terrorism and external
interference in domestic affairs.
The ANC believes therefore that there can be no meaningful
economic development without peace and stability, hence our
government’s involvement in peacekeeping and peacemaking missions
on the continent.
South Africa is a member of a number of international bodies
seeking to foster economic development across the globe. The
balance of forces in bodies like the Bretton Woods institutions,
which include the IMF and the World Bank, remains heavily tipped
in favour of developed countries. However, South Africa and other
member states have not relented in advancing the interests of
developing countries.
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South Africa has concurrently been strengthening South-to-South
relations more especially through its membership of the Brics
countries. The Brics countries have now launched the Brics
Development Bank to avail funds for developing nations to advance
their development agenda. The Development Bank is critical to
funding infrastructure development to extend affordable and
accessible services to the majority of citizens of both permanent
and temporary residents of developing countries. Infrastructure
development is also aimed at facilitating better conditions of
business, thus stimulating economic growth and, by extension,
employment creation and poverty eradication.
South Africa’s membership of the International Labour
Organisation enjoins it not only to promote favourable employment
conditions and ensure fair labour practices, but also to promote
the creation of decent employment. In this regard, South Africa
has an obligation to ensure that South African companies do not
only observe fair labour practices when conducting business
inside the country, but also that they do so even when conducting
business in foreign countries. In other words, South African
firms cannot pay living wages to South Africa workers whilst
exploiting workers in or from other parts of the continent. I
hope you will tell your friends.
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Madam Chair, “The people shall share in the country’s wealth!”
exclaims the Freedom Charter editorially. The 53rd ANC conference
acknowledges that significant progress has been made in meeting
the basic needs of the people - that includes the growth of the
social wage and the provision of infrastructure. However, it
further recognises that the redistribution of economic assets and
the growing of job-creating industries have been minimal.
The ANC is committed to taking resolute action to overcome the
triple challenges of poverty, inequality and unemployment, which
are at the heart of South Africa’s socioeconomic challenges. To
this effect, the ANC government is transforming the structure of
the economy through industrialisation, as empowered by its
policies such as the Black Industrialists Policy, the Industrial
Policy Action Plan, or Ipap, and many more.
The ANC’s most effective weapon in campaigning against poverty
remains the creation of decent work, which itself requires faster
and more inclusive growth. The triple challenges of unemployment,
poverty and inequality require that accelerated growth take place
in the context of an effective strategy of redistribution that
builds a new and more equitable growth path.
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As I conclude, there is undoubtedly more to be done to achieve
economic transformation and the distribution of the economy. The
ANC is therefore committed to ensuring that the people are
emancipated from the legacy of colonialism of a special type. It
is also committed to co-operating with labour and the private
sector to achieve employment-creating economic growth and
strengthening regional economic integration for a more prosperous
and united Africa.
Economic transformation is therefore an endeavour to realise
social justice for a prosperous South Africa in a better Africa
and a better world. The ANC therefore pursues a better life for
all South Africans while working for a better world order,
underpinned by equality and social justice.
There exists therefore a basis on which we say South Africa today
is indeed better than yesterday. And there is hope that tomorrow
will be better than today. [Applause.]
My last point before I depart from this podium ...
[Interjections.]
Ubab’uMalema wenze ihlazo elimbi khulu kwamambala. Mina lapha
ngibuya khona siyawagcina amasiko. Siyawela, sikhamba nabobaba.
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[Mr Malema has done a shameful thing indeed. In my community
where I come from, we observe traditional rite of passage. We
attend circumcision school under the guidance of our fathers.]
It is mischievous and very derogatory in African culture for
Malema to come here and make a mockery of it.
Liyahlonitjhwa lel’isiko. [This culture is highly respected.]
You don’t just speak about it anywhere in any way. I thank you,
Madam Chair. [Applause.]
The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: Chairperson, it was hardly
surprising today that the ANC’s speakers’ list only came out a
few moments before we came into the House. No doubt there was a
lot of anxious coin tossing, drawing of straws and nail-biting
bouts of rock, paper and scissors in the ANC caucus room to see
who the poor souls were who would have to come out here today and
defend this one man’s indefensible behaviour ... [Applause.] ...
and his very poor speech yet again. But we did get some people
out here, the B-team, admittedly ...
An HON MEMBER: The D-team!
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The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: ... but we started, of course,
with Rob Davies, the Minister - more excuses, more handwringing,
more apologies: “It’s not our fault; we’re buffeted by outside
forces.” Snake oil indeed when one looks at the mismanagement
that his department has effected over the African Growth and
Opportunity Act and other key job-creating agreements that we
have. He comes here and expects us to come and grovel before his
mighty feet because he is fixing Eskom. Well, he broke it in the
first place! Your government. Your policies. Your inefficiency.
You mess it up and expect us to be grateful.
He goes on about the National Development Plan, NDP. Now let me
tell you something, colleagues: he does not even believe in the
NDP, and he expects us to think he’s going to implement it in his
department - the nine-point plan. The self-same nine-point plan
that led to a 74% drop in foreign direct investment last year,
Minister Davies.
He spoke a lot today about iron and steel. Well, let me tell you
something: When it comes to the ANC, they iron over the problems
and steal all the money. [Applause.] But you don’t have to take
my word for it. I’d like to quote the lord of Luthuli House, Mr
Gwede Manthashe. I quote, “Of great concern are the NEC members
who are either charged or have pending cases of corruption
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against them.” As the numbers of these comrades grow, we will be
unable to sustain the technical argument of innocent until proven
guilty - an admission from your own people.
He comes here with his hocus-pocus economics and voodoo tricks to
try to trick us into thinking that the BMW deal is something to
celebrate. What he doesn’t say is they’ve withdrawn the 3 Series,
which sells three times the models of the X5, and replaced it
with the X5. Get real! That’s snake oil indeed. But you know
what? I’d like to quote Lenin as well, as the hon Godi did,
except I want to quote John Lennon. [Laughter.] He wrote the song
called the Nowhere Man and it goes something like this: “He is a
real nowhere man, sitting in his nowhere land, making all his
nowhere plans for nobody.” Isn’t that Minister Davies?
[Applause.]
We then had the Premier of the Eastern Cape. I see he has done a
hit-and-run. The weakest province. How low can the bar go that
this is the best that you can bring to the House today? The worst
performing province in education: a pass rate of only 56%, mud
schools, no furniture; with 45% unemployment and 46% of the
national bucket toilets on his watch are in his province. He
comes here with his Breitling watch, flashing it at the podium,
and expects to fool us.
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Abantu bakujongile. [People are watching you.]
Then the Deputy Minister of Minerals and Energy. Working for
Minister Gupta must be hard - poor man is still trying to work
out how he got appointed and why he’s here. He came here with
slogans. But you know things are getting really bad when you duff
up your own slogans at the podium. You’ve botched the Mineral and
Petroleum Resources Development Act, but I want to say I do agree
with you, hon Oliphant, we do find common cause with you. You are
absolutely right: the ANC has produced a lot of nuts. [Laughter.]
Given the fact that mining investment fell by 74% last year, I’m
not surprised you want to come here and talk about macadamias
instead of minerals.
Minister Hanekom, shame, shame: another Planet Zuma inhabitant
clearly. He forgets to talk about his tourism-killing visa
regulations that he sat on his hands on. Isn’t it a shame that he
could stand up against apartheid, but he cannot stand up against
President Zuma? This mighty man reduced to processing the visas
to Planet Zuma.
Hon Mamabolo, we know why the Premier of the Gauteng province
isn’t here today. We know.
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An HON MEMBER: Be honest. Be honest.
The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: We know why he sent you. He
shuffled you to infrastructure from Cogta because of your poor
performance. Even your own party doesn’t trust you, but you are
here today. [Laughter.] And, frankly, your corny duet with the
Minister there was so stage-managed it was like a cheap soap
opera and about as credible as President Zuma on the economy.
[Laughter.] But let me answer your question, hon Julius: the
reason the Premier of Gauteng province is not here today is
because he hates President Zuma ... [Applause.]
[Interjections.] ... and he is in his province doing what South
Africans across the length and breadth of this country are doing
and that’s plotting to get this President out of office and
rescue this country. That’s where the premier was today.
[Applause.]
Hon Mthimunye, thank you very much. It was like reading a copy of
the Business Day all over again. Not much substance there, I’m
afraid. But you know what, we have seen this week how the
President has thrown the ANC caucus under the bus. So instead of
the struggle songs that we are going to hear going into the local
government elections, I bet you they are taking lessons on the
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Wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and
round, because your own President threw the whole lot of you
under the bus.
We now know why you guys bought those very large buses that don’t
fit anywhere in Port Elizabeth: you needed something big enough,
President, to throw your caucus under. [Applause.]
[Interjections.]
Let me now say, there is a speaker who is going to come up here
next. We know the venom and vitriol that’s on its way to this
podium. Let’s talk about the first person in this Parliament who
got thrown under the bus by President Zuma in his defence of
Nkandla. Anyone know who it was?
An HON MEMBER: Who was it? Tell us!
The CHIEF WHIP OF THE OPPOSITION: It was our former Speaker, Max
Sisulu - an honourable man, a deeply honourable man who has the
respect of everybody in this House. [Applause.] He made the
cardinal error of putting this Parliament first, his duty to the
Constitution first – something all of you have failed at – and
called for an investigation into Nkandla. What happened to him?
He got thrown under the bus. Isn’t it ironic that the last person
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up today is defending the first person that got thrown under the
bus, and she has something very familiar in common with him. The
truth of the matter is that the ANC caucus has lost all
credibility.
I leave you with the words of Dante who said, and I quote, “The
darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their
neutrality in times of moral crisis.” Shame on you! [Applause.]
The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: Hon Chairperson, to the
esteemed chief clown here who has just left the podium ...
[Interjections.] ... yes, indeed I have something in common with
the man who you describe as the former Speaker, Max Sisulu, and
it is honour. [Interjections.] That is something that we have in
common. [Interjections.]
Madam Chairperson, Mr President, hon members, on a sober note, I
want to start off by honouring the valour of a young South
African woman, Thembi Nkadimeng-Simelane who, for 20 years worked
tirelessly to track down the brutal apartheid killers of her
sister, Nokuthula Simelane. [Applause.] She has finally won the
right to have the killers of Nokuthula, who operated in the ANC
underground in Swaziland, prosecuted. Thembi was only nine years
old when her sister was heinously murdered. And we sit here and
joke about everything else except that which is vital to our
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people: their dignity. The courage and bravery she has displayed
gives me hope, Mr President, that our young people will continue
our struggle for justice and everything we fought for.
There is hope in the future when there is somebody like Thembi.
We have overcome many obstacles. We will rule this country until
all our people have a better life, until we have a truly
nonracial society, until these benches all around here are packed
with people who treasure our liberation, and not trash it.
[Applause.] We will get that society, and the ANC will still
lead. [Applause.]
Those who came before us have bequeathed us with simple tools to
characterise this particular debate we have had today. One of
them is the tireless wisdom I would like all of you to remember
at all times, when we have an occasion like this, and it says:
“Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events and weak
minds - vacuous minds - discuss people.” [Interjections.]
[Applause.] That is exactly what we have heard here. And I can
add to that: Not only are they vacuous and discuss people, they
have even created planets of their own imagination - Planet Zuma.
That is the banality of these weak minds.
The President presented here a solid road map for the current
period that we are in through his state of the nation address on
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Thursday. Not unexpectedly, the response to the President’s
address can be grouped into two camps: one, the anti-ANC/anti-
Zuma brigade, which was predictable. This camp found nothing, saw
nothing, heard nothing, and learned nothing from the address.
[Interjections.] This was exemplified by the hon Maimane and the
hon Julius Malema who, thankfully has left. The air is cleaner
without them here. [Interjections.]
The second group, which is the most important group, are the
discerning citizens of this country. They not only listened but
they also read the state of the nation address. The latter
comprised mainly investors, businesspeople, economists, CEOs of
companies, captains of industry and ordinary citizens wanting to
hear about the future of this country.
In the Business Day of 23 February 2016, journalist Stuart
Theobald speaks for many who are in the business of making sure
that they understand what the President said. And this is what he
had to say. I quote:
Senior business leaders have had three key meetings with senior
government officials ... The effects were clear in Mr Zuma’s
speech ... much that business has been asking for: promoting SA
as an investment destination ...
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[Applause.]
Indeed, while this is obvious for the broader business community
and ordinary citizens, the message, sadly, is lost on all the
anti-Zuma brigade that you find on that side – completely lost.
Given the past experience, I did not hold my breath or expect
that perhaps sense would predominate in this debate. What we have
heard from kortbroek - whatever it is: kortbroek Trollip - and
everybody else is taking this country nowhere whatsoever.
[Interjections.]
Mr I M OLLIS: Chairperson, on a point of order: it is “the hon
Trollip”. We don’t refer to each other in the way that this
Minister does. [Interjections.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Your point is sustained, sir. Hon
Minister, we have the “hon Trollip”.
The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: Oh, I am sorry; I thought he
said hon kortbroek. [Interjections.] No?
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order, members!
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The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: Okay, the point is made, “hon
Trollip”. [Interjections.]
All we have heard today is the same repetition of moans and
groans, which is within the grasp of everyone here ... is
completely outside the grasp of the Western Cape province. Here
where we are now is poverty, inequality, racial tension of the
highest nature - right here in the Western Cape. [Applause.]
[Interjections.] Now, Maimane comes here and tells us his grand
plan – “hon Maimane”. He comes here and he tells us of his grand
plan of how to fight gangsterism. It has been the worst here in
the Western Cape. Why have they not done anything about it, right
here? [Applause.] [Interjections.]
For us, therefore, the responses from the private sector, from
the Banking Assocation of SA, Basa, and from the SA Chamber of
Commerce and Industry, Sacci, and from ordinary citizens were
very encouraging and supportive of the measures announced by the
President. And here today we are also very pleased to have had
supportive and constructive statements from hon leaders like the
hon Buthelezi and the hon Godi over there. [Applause.]
[Interjections.]
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The hon Nkwinti once coined a phrase. He said, “Mr President, we
are moving.” Siyaqhuba. But now we have gone beyond that in our
delivery. We are sailing on ... sailing on. Sometimes it is on
rough water, but our mast is aligned to the wind. We are doing
exceptionally well in some areas, and it is time that we boldly
take credit for what we have been able to achieve.
I want to give you one example: In his address on the occasion of
the Sunday Times Literary Awards, Justice Edwin Cameron provides
a lucid, objective assessment of the performance of our political
dispensation. He notes:
Our polity is boisterous, rowdy, sometimes cacophonous and
often angry. That much is to be expected. But after nearly two
decades, we have more freedom, more debate, more robust and
direct engagement with each other.
He continues, most importantly, saying: Much has been achieved,
perhaps more than those who tend to be very hostile - more than
they would ever be able to realise.
He continues:
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Almost all violent crime is down. Compared to 1994, the murder
rate has almost halved. Government’s housing programme has put
many millions of South Africans into their own homes. In 1994,
just over half of households had electricity. Now 85% do. In
1994, just more than one third of six-year-olds were in school.
Now 85% are.
The income of the average black family has increased by about a
third. And, through the system of social grants totalling about
R120 billion every year ...
- is in place and although it does not cover everybody, it
actually has afforded most of them some way out of poverty.
The long and short of Justice Cameron’s message and of those
others is that we are on track. The wind blows behind our sails;
and we are sailing on. Justice Cameron’s observation has been
echoed by many other independent research institutions. This
includes Goldman Sachs’ appraisal of South Africa’s 20 years of
democracy, that of the World Bank, that of FastFACTS, a record of
race relations, and one that I want to quote to all of you is
that of a pamphlet entitled: “They huff and they puff but cannot
blow this house down." Dealing with human settlements policy, the
following are the facts. In 1996 there were 3 400 000 families
residing in formal housing, but by 2014 that number had increased
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to 9 400 000. Can you hear that? [Applause.] This is an increase
of 6 million houses that have been provided by this government.
Now, can anybody beat that? Nowhere in the world have you ever
had a record to beat that. These are not my statistics. These are
statistics from the SA Institute of Race Relations.
Mr President, hon members, it goes on:
The view that the service delivery efforts of the government
have failed and that living standards are only a little better
than they were 20 years ago is untrue. On the contrary, service
delivery, here specifically, referring to housing, must be
judged as a success story in many respects.
[Applause.]
We are sailing. We are sailing. Mr President, it goes on to say
that what we have achieved is an average of 912 families moving
into a formal house per day since 1996.
Hon members, imagine this: Every day you go to bed, 912 African
families have moved into a new house. We could never have outdone
that anywhere at any other time, except under the ANC government.
Think about that as you sit in comfort – that 912 of the poor
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move into a new house every night! [Applause.] What does the
Western Cape do? It sits, folds its arms as Masiphumelele burns
down. There is no emergency. It burns down every week; no
emergency called because it is not Clifton, it is not Bantry Bay.
It is of no consequence to anybody.
But what we do is make sure we can bring dignity to our people by
providing them with some social network. We are a product of the
liberation struggle and this is what we want to make sure - that
we live in this House as we move on.
We created this democracy to ensure that our people
no longer live with the scourge of inequality. We
created this democracy in order that our people no
longer live with racism. We created this democracy
so that our people no longer l iv e in poverty and
humiliation. This is what defined us in 1994 and
this is what defines us now. We stand here by the
will of the people and do the best we can every day
– every day - the best we can in the name of the ANC.
[Applause.] It does not matter how hard you howl,
how much you whinge o r h o w m u c h y o u
g r a n d s t a n d . Our government and our policies
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have been lauded internationally, and, where we have
erred, we have acknowledged it.
An HON MEMBER: No, you haven’t.
The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: We have.
[Interjections.] We have. [Interjections.]
This brings me to the issue that relates particularly to the
DA, and this is the issue of racism. [Interjections.] We as the
ANC were founded on the premise of making sure that the demon of
the past is destroyed. We stand on the principle of nonracialism.
The resolution of the race problem requires, amongst other
things, that we understand racism from the perspective of the
victim.
Nonracialism presupposes respect for other people. It calls
for understanding and the appreciation of other people’s
experiences. If we do not do that, we will be caught in a
cycle of blame and political point-scoring, which is what has
been happening here.
In his study, a US psychologist found that most whites refuse
to acknowledge that racial discrimination remains and that it
is widespread, and that it is especially dominant in white-
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controlled workplaces, in company boardrooms, in law courts, in
schools and in other places. For some, racism is limited to
the extreme prejudices of some people who are in the extreme.
No, it lives in each one of us. Those who have lived through
legislated discrimination have in us vestiges of that racism.
And if we deny it, it is because it lives larger than the next
person. You cannot have lived through apartheid and not have
been affected by it. And if we don’t acknowledge it, there is
something very wrong – fundamentally wrong - with us. I am
aiming this at you, hon Maimane. [Applause.] [Interjections.]
Experiences of racial discrimination are not only painful and
stressful; they also have a cumulative affect on individuals,
their families and communities. For t h e majority of whites,
however, acts of discrimination and acts of violence are
isolated events. As a result, whites, unfortunately, often
feel that we tend to overexaggerate, you know, overreact
to some of these things. A n d they forget that blacks live
with this on a day-to-day basis.
We in the ANC have interrogated this matter and have
dealt with it over the years. We urge you to deal with
the racism in your party, hon Maimane. [Applause.]
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The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Minister, please take your seat.
Hon Nkoana-Mashabane? [Interjections.] Are you standing on a
point of order, Ma’am? [Interjections.]
Order!
The MINISTER OF INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS AND CO-OPERATION: Is the
hon Minister prepared to take a question?
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Minister, are you prepared to
take a question?
The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: Yes, I will.
The MINISTER OF INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS AND CO-OPERATION: As the
hon Minister knows, South Africa has earned its own respect
through the preamble to our Constitution if not through the
entire Constitution. Would you say that the representation of
people who voted for the DA is reflective of who is seated here
representing the DA? [Interjections.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Minister ... Order! Order!
[Interjections.] Order, members! Hon Minister?
The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: The DA loves waving the
Constitution at us, at every step of the way, and talks down to
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us as though they are talking to some schoolchildren. Indeed, the
preamble to the Constitution deals with this matter. And, indeed,
the constitution of the DA itself and the cabinet of the Western
Cape is the complete opposite to what the Constitution has
declared for the Republic of South Africa. [Applause.]
[Interjections.] And it is of no consequence ...
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Hon Minister, please take your seat.
Hon member, yes?
Mr B M BHANGA: Speaker, can I ask the Minister a question?
[Interjections.] Can I ask you a question?
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Can I ask you to allow her to finish
responding to this one, and then we will give you the
opportunity, if the Minister will allow it. Minister, will you
take another question?
The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: No, I will not.
[Interjections.] [Applause.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Please continue, Minister. Order,
members! Order! Please continue, Minister.
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The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: Thank you. Hon Chair, in an
article entitled White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible
Knapsack, the author links racism with privilege and self-
interest. She writes, and I quote:
As a white person, I have come to see white privilege as an
invisible package of unearned assets which I can count on
cashing in each day, but about which I was meant to remain
oblivious. White privilege is like an invisible weightless
knapsack of special provisions, maps, passports, code books,
visas, clothes, tools and blank checks.
That’s how she has come to experience white privilege. In case
most of you have not understood this: Remove your knapsack,
because this is what gives you the privilege that makes you sit
there and be insensitive about the suffering of our people.
Hon Maimane, look very carefully at your party. The DA’s success
in making inroads into black society will be determined by
vigorous soul-searching within your party of how you have
overcome prejudices that were held by the whites, especially on
your side, before we gave them the freedom that they have today.
You will not make any inroads into black society and you know
that. [Applause.] [Interjections.] You know that. Look very
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carefully at everybody that you have around you, and, in fact,
watch it. [Interjections.]
We came here in 1994 and deliberately transformed a stifled,
exclusive Parliament into a people’s Parliament with the
intention of making it an institution that is owned by the
people. We opened it up to live television, but we did not do
this to make it a people’s theatre.
What went on in this Chamber on Thursday last week was nothing
more than a disgraceful display of tantrums and theatrics. At the
last analysis of the ratings of television programmes, the
parliamentary channel was rated one of the most watched channels.
That is very good for television, but we are not competing with
Idols here. Parliament was bound to be more vibrant because we
have younger people and we expected that it would be more
vibrant. But we did not expect it to deteriorate to the level
that it did on Thursday.
Worst of all, leading is the pack is the hon Lekota. It is
particulary disturbing that a man who has a background that he
has would have done what he did. He stands up and says, the
courts have decreed A, B, C on the President, and he knows it is
not true.
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Hon Chair, I would like you to look at the records and, in fact,
call the hon Lekota to order, because what he said was not true
and he knew it. [Interjections.]
I am very glad that the other hypocrites have moved out. As I
said, there are no insults being hurled, except heckling from
this side - also, perhaps with a bit of acid insults in it as
well - but the air is cleaner without them.
In closure, we’d like to thank the hon Buthelezi. Clearly, he is
one of a few opposition leaders who actually listened to the
speech. The hon Buthelezi acknowledged what the President
conceded needed to be done, and he conceded that the President
had indicated that he was not too happy with our performance. Hon
Buthelezi, we are equally very concerned about the drought. I’m
glad that it was mentioned here, but tomorrow we will have the
Minister of Water and Sanitation who will deal with the issue of
this drought scourge.
Thank you very much to the hon Holomisa for the suggestion of an
economic indaba resembling that of Codesa. The rest of the hon
Holomisa’s ramblings are not worth mentioning here right now.
[Laughter.] It was just very much like him.
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Hon Van Damme, we are seized with the matter of the youth and I
trust you are equally seized with the matter of your citizenship.
Mr M L W FILTANE: Point of order, Chair. Point of order.
[Interjections.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: What is your point of order, sir?
Mr M L W FILTANE: Chairperson, my point of order is that the
statement that the hon Minister made is derogatory about my
leader. You don’t talk like that about Holomisa. [Interjections.]
Not in this House. You don’t do it.
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Thank you, sir. Hon members, I will
look at Hansard and come back to rule on this matter. Please
proceed, hon Minister.
The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: May I just assist the hon
member? Holomisa is also my leader. He is also my leader. And
what I said about him I say to him as well. [Interjections.] May
I continue?
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I was indicating that I hope that the hon van Damme is equally
seized with the matter of her citizenship in the same way she is
seized with the matter of the youth. [Interjections.]
Hon Trollip, I am glad that you mentioned Nelson Mandela Bay. We
are taking Nelson Mandela Bay, I can assure you of that. Let me
tell all hon members what the latest poll says about Nelson
Mandela Bay: Danny Jordaan received 47,8% ratings. What did you
get? Ten per cent. [Interjections.]
The CHAIRPERSON OF THE NCOP: Order! Order!
The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: To conclude, I revert to where
I began. Great minds discus ideas, average minds discuss events
and weak minds discuss people – which is what the DA has been
doing throughout this debate. The hon Maimane has proved that he
belongs to the latter category. As expected, he and his party
offered no policy proposals or alternatives. [Interjections.] It
only expressed its obsession with and its hatred of the
President. Let me say this to you, hon Maimane, white supremacy
triumphs when it transforms a promising young black man with
priestly pretentions to proclaim with pride his hatred for the
President. That is when white supremacy triumphs.
[Interjections.] [Applause.]
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What we heard from you was howling and baying without any
dignity. [Interjections.] It does not add any dignity. No country
has ever been built on hatred, hon Maimane and hon Holomisa.
In closing, great leaders like Nelson Mandela are exemplary, not
only because they never faced enormous obstacles, but because
they were able to rise in spite of those hurdles. Let us find
inspiration in their spirit of no surrender, hon President. I
thank you. [Interjections.] [Applause.]
Debate interrupted.
The Chairperson of the National Council of Provinces adjourned
the Joint Sitting at 18:48.