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Page 1: Speakers: David Timms Associate Director KPMGs3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/doc.housing.org.uk/...Outsource option for support and future development: • Quicker to implement • Better

B7: To outsource or not to outsource?

Speakers: David Timms

Associate Director KPMG

Richard Scholes

ICT Director The Hyde Group

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To outsource or

not to outsource?

National Housing Federation IT Conference

20 November 2013

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1 © 2013 KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, is a subsidiary of KPMG Europe LLP and a member firm of the KPMG network of independent member firms affiliated with KPMG International Cooperative, a

Swiss entity. All rights reserved.

Agenda

What are the drivers for IT outsourcing?

Evaluating the benefits for your

organisation

Examining the emerging models

Factors to consider to ensure you get a

successful IT sourcing arrangement in

place

The information contained herein is of a general nature and is not intended to address

the circumstances of any particular individual or entity. Although we endeavour to

provide accurate and timely information, there can be no guarantee that such

information is accurate as of the date it is received or that it will continue to be

accurate in the future. No one should act on such information without appropriate

professional advice after a thorough examination of the particular situation.

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2 © 2013 KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, is a subsidiary of KPMG Europe LLP and a member firm of the KPMG network of independent member firms affiliated with KPMG International Cooperative, a

Swiss entity. All rights reserved.

What are the drivers for outsourcing of IT?

Take out cost from the business

Outsource the “chores”, focus on the core

Need to consider this strategically

Managing your risks There’s an awful

lot to consider!

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3 © 2013 KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, is a subsidiary of KPMG Europe LLP and a member firm of the KPMG network of independent member firms affiliated with KPMG International Cooperative, a

Swiss entity. All rights reserved.

Evaluating the benefits for your organisation

Cost savings ranging from 10% to 35%

across major back-office functions (IT,

Finance, HR)

Improved processes resulting in 8% to

13% less spend on indirect goods and

services

Access to skills and resources and reduce

reliance on key individuals

Increase resilience and security of IT

networks and systems

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4 © 2013 KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, is a subsidiary of KPMG Europe LLP and a member firm of the KPMG network of independent member firms affiliated with KPMG International Cooperative, a

Swiss entity. All rights reserved.

IT Sourcing Models

Client

Prime contractor

Sub

Contractor

A

Sub

Contractor

B

Eg HMRC, DWP, DVLA

Historic

Client

Prime

contractor

A

Eg, Hyde

Prime

contractor

B,C,D

One contractor delivering

core services with some sub-

contracting

Best of breed with a number

of suppliers to deliver

specific services

Client

Tower 1

Multi

Suppl

Eg GM, DWP, HMRC, DVLA

(future)

Tower 2

Multi

Suppl

Best of breed service delivery

(towers) model

Tower 3

Multi

Suppl

Strategic Delivery Partner

Risk v Benefit Less dependent on one supplier but the risks associated with managing many suppliers increases

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5 © 2013 KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, is a subsidiary of KPMG Europe LLP and a member firm of the KPMG network of independent member firms affiliated with KPMG International Cooperative, a

Swiss entity. All rights reserved.

Factors to consider to ensure you get a successful IT sourcing

arrangement in place

Get the governance right - Why is it important to get the governance right?

Invoice &

Credit Errors

Reduction/

Redeployment

of Gov. Staff

Consumption

Management

Unnecessary

Change

Orders

Low Adoption

Rates

Failure to

Innovate

Risk

Mitigation

Cost Recovery Cost Reduction Cost Avoidance Value Creation Risk

Management

2%–10%

Value

2%–10%

Value

5%–15%

Value

10%–15%

Value

2%–5%

Value

Total

Potential

Value in

Business

Case

Realised

Value

17% - 40%

unrealised

potential

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6 © 2013 KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, is a subsidiary of KPMG Europe LLP and a member firm of the KPMG network of independent member firms affiliated with KPMG International Cooperative, a

Swiss entity. All rights reserved.

Factors to consider to ensure you get a successful IT sourcing

arrangement in place

Get the governance right

■ Service delivery governance must be closely tied to broader organisation governance efforts and needs as

they relate, for example, to regulatory compliance, corporate governance, and risk management

Service Quality

and

Performance

Management

Change

Management

Contract

Management

Risk &

Compliance

Management

Financial

Management

Relationship

Management

Service

Performance

Management

Service Change

Management

Contract

Management

External

Compliance

Management

Invoice

Verification and

Payment

Management

Stakeholder

Communications

Stakeholder

Satisfaction

Management

Project Initiation

and

Authorization

Contract Change

Management

Internal

Compliance

Management

Service Cost

Allocation

Management

Stakeholder

Relationship

Management

Service

Knowledge

Management

Program

Management

Market

Comparison

and

Benchmarking

Risk

Management

Financial Benefits

Realization

Management

Continuous

Improvement

and Innovation

Issue

Management

Demand and

Consumption

Management

Financial

Performance

Reporting

Service Provider

Relationship

Management

Support Transition Service Commencement 90 Days Post Go Live Governance

Reporting

and Review

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7 © 2013 KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, is a subsidiary of KPMG Europe LLP and a member firm of the KPMG network of independent member firms affiliated with KPMG International Cooperative, a

Swiss entity. All rights reserved.

Other factors to think about – The “6 P” areas of a contract

Plan and

Potential Perception

People &

Governance

Price &

Commercial Performance Process

Foundation Domains

Differentiation Domains

Innovation

Proactivity

Benefits realisation,

tracking and reporting

Business case and critical

success factor review

Planning reviews and

documentation

Perception management

Perception measurement

Communication

Adherence to contract

Governance meeting execution

Decision making

Governance purpose Governance structure

Organisational objectives

Governance tools

Organisational staffing

Organisational design and structure

Management of

commercial issues

Price predictability

Price competitiveness

Billing accuracy

Resource Units

Value

Reporting

Service Levels

Service Improvement Plans

Incentive scheme

Process documentation

Process roles, responsibilities

and ownership

Continuous improvement

Process adherence

Value

Creation

Plan

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Thank you

David Timms

020 7311 6618

[email protected]

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© 2013 KPMG LLP, a UK limited liability partnership, is a subsidiary of

KPMG Europe LLP and a member firm of the KPMG network of

independent member firms affiliated with KPMG International Cooperative,

a Swiss entity. All rights reserved.

The KPMG name, logo and “cutting through complexity” are registered

trademarks or trademarks of KPMG International Cooperative (KPMG

International).

The information contained herein is of a general nature and is not intended

to address the circumstances of any particular individual or entity. Although

we endeavour to provide accurate and timely information, there can be no

guarantee that such information is accurate as of the date it is received or

that it will continue to be accurate in the future. No one should act on such

information without appropriate professional advice after a thorough

examination of the particular situation.

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Outsourcing:

From personal experience

Richard Scholes

ICT Director, The Hyde Group

NHF – IT in Housing

20/11/2013

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Fast Facts about The Hyde Group

• £260m turnover

• £2.9bn assets

• 95,000 residents

• 49,000 homes

• 1,200 staff

• 45 years old

• The Hyde Group is one of the UK’s leading and

award winning providers of housing

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Why Did We Outsource?

• 2010 – Review of the ICT Structure

• Looked at the service we needed to deliver

• Looked at options:

• To improve service

• To reduce risk

• To increase Value for Money

• Concluded that there were two areas where

outsourcing should be considered:

Software support and

development where we lacked

the internal skills

Telecoms – because of the risk

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Why some software and not all?

In 2010/11 we developed our CRM application TED as a key

component of our business change programme One Hyde One

Vision (OHOV)

Microsoft Dynamics base

Biztalk interfaces to Northgate

Housing and Serengeti DMS

Built by a team of contract

resource

Cost of recruiting a permanent

team with the skills to support

and develop were prohibitive -

circa 10 FTE needed

Outsource option for support

and future development:

• Quicker to implement

• Better VFM – about £350k

p.a. cheaper

In other areas such as the

support of Northgate

Housing we already have a

team of experts

• Considered it to be more

risky to outsource than

keep in house

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Why Network & Telecoms?

Contract with BT was up for renewal

Run internally by a small team

Networks

IP telephony

Call Centre

All expertise in one place

Decided to spread the risk

Outsource the function

TUPE the staff to the new supplier

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Procurement

Don’t

underestimate

the time and

effort needed

to procure

your chosen

solution

If you know

what you

want:

Restricted

procedure

If you don’t

know what you

want:

Competitive

dialogue??

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Software Support & Development

Setup a

framework with

four suppliers for

flexibility and

competitiveness

Award

Produced a

spec’

Went to

tender

Suppliers on

the framework

bid for the

business

Scored the

responses

Transition

About 9

months end

to end

We knew

what we

wanted

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Telecoms

Intention was to

get the best deal • Service Innovation

Opted for

“Competitive

Dialogue”

Requirements less

clear cut

Ended up with 1

competitor – the

incumbent supplier

15 months end to

end

Still managed

to save £2.8m

over 4 years

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Recommendations

Plan ahead. You can’t circumvent the procurement legalities

Get good procurement advice

Take your time over the contract to get what you need

Don’t forget you will need to manage your new outsourced

service

Document & agree the transition and go live

Don’t give away your crown jewels

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Outsourcing:

From personal experience

Richard Scholes

ICT Director, The Hyde Group

NHF – IT in Housing

20/11/2013

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Fast Facts about The Hyde Group

• £260m turnover

• £2.9bn assets

• 95,000 residents

• 49,000 homes

• 1,200 staff

• 45 years old

• The Hyde Group is one of the UK’s leading and

award winning providers of housing

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Why Did We Outsource?

• 2010 – Review of the ICT Structure

• Looked at the service we needed to deliver

• Looked at options:

• To improve service

• To reduce risk

• To increase Value for Money

• Concluded that there were two areas where

outsourcing should be considered:

Software support and

development where we lacked the

internal skills Telecoms – because of the risk

Page 24: Speakers: David Timms Associate Director KPMGs3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/doc.housing.org.uk/...Outsource option for support and future development: • Quicker to implement • Better

Why some software and not all?

In 2010/11 we developed our CRM application TED as a key

component of our business change programme One Hyde One

Vision (OHOV) Microsoft Dynamics base

Biztalk interfaces to Northgate

Housing and Serengeti DMS

Built by a team of contract

resource

Cost of recruiting a permanent

team with the skills to support

and develop were prohibitive -

circa 10 FTE needed

Outsource option for support

and future development:

• Quicker to implement

• Better VFM – about £350k

p.a. cheaper

In other areas such as the

support of Northgate

Housing we already have a

team of experts

• Considered it to be more

risky to outsource than

keep in house

Page 25: Speakers: David Timms Associate Director KPMGs3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/doc.housing.org.uk/...Outsource option for support and future development: • Quicker to implement • Better

Why Network & Telecoms?

Contract with BT was up for renewal

Run internally by a small team

Networks

IP telephony

Call Centre

All expertise in one place

Decided to spread the risk

Outsource the function

TUPE the staff to the new supplier

Page 26: Speakers: David Timms Associate Director KPMGs3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/doc.housing.org.uk/...Outsource option for support and future development: • Quicker to implement • Better

Procurement

Don’t

underestimat

e the time and

effort needed

to procure

your chosen

solution

If you know

what you

want:

Restricted

procedure

If you don’t

know what you

want:

Competitive

dialogue??

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Software Support & Development

Setup a

framework

with four

suppliers for

flexibility and

competitivene

ss

Award

Produced a

spec’

Went to

tender

Suppliers on

the framework

bid for the

business

Scored the

responses

Transition

About 9

months end

to end

We knew

what we

wanted

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Telecoms

Intention was to

get the best deal • Service Innovation

Opted for

“Competitive

Dialogue”

Requirements less

clear cut

Ended up with 1

competitor – the

incumbent supplier

15 months end to

end

Still managed

to save £2.8m

over 4 years

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Recommendations

Plan ahead. You can’t circumvent the procurement legalities

Get good procurement advice

Take your time over the contract to get what you need

Don’t forget you will need to manage your new outsourced

service

Document & agree the transition and go live

Don’t give away your crown jewels