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South East Surrey Valuing People Group South East Surrey Local Valuing People Group - Sept 2017 Minutes Minutes of our Sept 2017 Meeting We met at: 1:00pm to 3:00pm The Meeting was Chaired by Cath White. Banstead URC, Woodmansterne Lane, Banstead, Surrey SM7 3EX

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What we talked

about today

South East Surrey Local Valuing People Group - Sept 2017 Minutes Page 2

Minutes of our last meeting

Transforming Care Quality

Standards

Any Other Business

EmployAbility

Update from Learning

Disability Partnership

Board

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Who came to our

meeting

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Angella Chimenya Active Prospects

Cath White Chair/Royal Association for the Deaf

Chris Simms Elmbridge Borough Council

Debbie Young Service User

Emma Jones YMCA East Surrey

Gaynor Gibbins Family Carer

Helen Bell First Community Health and Care CIC

Jay Palmer Surrey County Council

John Spedding Mencap

Julian Temblett-Wood Surrey County Council

Michael Perks Family Carer

Rachael Walker Surrey Choices

Sarah Linington Surrey County Council

Shamim Kityo Matovu Surrey Choices

Stuart Sharkey Service User

Tom Moore Surrey County Council

Ann Collins Service User

Anne Shiels Surrey Choices

Alix Lewer The Include Choir

Barry Roberts Service User

Janet Hill Reigate and Borough District Council

Jen Fookes Family Carer

Mary Hendrick Surrey County Council

Penny Davis Service User

Peter Chang Service User

Sean Jenkins Surrey Choices

Stephanie Smith Surrey and Borders Partnership

Yasmin Broome Surrey Coalition

Apologies received from:

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Wednesday 12 July 2017

Minutes of our

last meeting

South East Surrey Local Valuing People Group - Sept 2017 Minutes Page 4

The Minutes from the last meeting on 12 July 2017 were

agreed as being correct.

Cath White asked if Sarah Linington had heard any more

from YMCA East Surrey about the Live It project. She

said that she hadn’t but will contact Emma Jones.

Action: Sarah Linington

EmployAbility

What EmployAbility does:

• Identifies aspirations and skills and advises on

career planning (vocational profile).

• Together look for opportunities to gain skills for work

in vocational projects, work experience and

voluntary options (skills building and assessment).

• Supports customers during all parts of the journey

towards work and job seeking, from creating a CV

and completing applications to interview skills, travel

training and work trials (job seeking).

Presentation from Rachael Walker

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Presentation from Rachael Walker

EmployAbility

• Supports customers in the workplace to learn

the job roles with fading support (job coaching).

• Ongoing support to both employee and

employer to ensure successful outcomes for

both (job matching and carving).

• KIT (Keep in Touch List) once in settled work or

volunteering to ensure placements continue

and are reviewed (sustainability).

• Work with 500 people supported in jobs and

400 active job seekers.

• Partner with over 13 schools and colleges for

work experience.

• Supported internships.

• Apprenticeships, trainees.

• Customer to colleague.

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Presentation from Rachael Walker

EmployAbility

Supported Employment

• Place, train and maintain.

• Zero rejection.

• Matching and job carving. Job carving is

looking at the different parts of a given job

and identifying specific tasks that might be

suitable for an individual.

• Job coaching, step down support.

• On going support to employee and employer.

Working with Employers

• Disability confidence (replaced two ticks).

• Access to Work (not just about physical).

• Myths (widely held but false belief) e.g. more

time off sick.

• Diverse workforce.

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Presentation from Rachael Walker

EmployAbility

Why it’s important

• Less than 1 in 5 people with a learning disability work: 65%

want to work.

• 46.3% of disabled people work compared to 76.2% of non-

disabled people.

• New entrants to the labour market face a prospect of

unemployment that is between double and four times the

average, depending on severity of their condition.

• Employment rates have been dropping for adults with a

learning disability.

How do you refer?

• Eligible for Adult Social Care (ASC).

• If a person is not eligible, they can self fund and take the

following steps:

Contact Surrey Choices for a referral form: 01483

806806 or visit:

www.surreychoices.com/employ_ability/sectors-benefits/

• EmployAbility will arrange an initial meeting to discuss moving

forward.

• You will be allocated to an Employment Support Specialist.

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Presentation from Rachael Walker

EmployAbility

Questions

• Rachael said that she would send Sarah a copy of

the Surrey Choices referral form to be circulated.

Action: Rachael Walker

• Rachael said that EmployAbility never stops

working with anyone unless they move out of

Surrey or unless the person asks them to stop

being involved. However Rachael said that if they

do move outside of Surrey, it may be possible to

access other funding streams.

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Presentation from Julian Temblett-Wood

Transforming Care

Quality Standards

The Government and leading organisations across the health and

care system are committed to transforming care for people with

learning disabilities and/or autism whose behaviour challenges

services.

The Surrey People Standards are part of Workstream 3: ‘Quality’

in the Surrey Joint Transforming Care Plan.

Principles of these quality standards

The Surrey People Standards are not intended to duplicate

regulatory requirements for service providers, such as those set

out by the Care Quality Commission or Ofsted.

Services will only be able to meet the Surrey People Standards if

they are rated ‘Good’ or ‘Outstanding’ by their regulators.

The Standards are outcome and experience focused.

The expectation is that the service provider demonstrates how

they are meeting the standards, with the experience of people

that use services at the centre.

The Surrey Positive Behavioural Support standards compliment

these standards.

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Presentation from Julian Temblett-Wood

Transforming Care

Quality Standards

The standards are around 6 areas:

1. My support is focused on me

2. I am happy, fulfilled and have a meaningful life

3. I have choice and control over my life

4. My support staff are good and enjoy their work

5. I am healthy

6. I am supported to feel safe in my local community

and wider afield

Julian went through each of the proposed standards for

each area.

Surrey County Council is currently consulting on the

standards and welcome thoughts and feedback from

people and organisations in the sector in Surrey.

Please send comments by 31 October 2017 to:

Julian Temblett-Wood

Quality Assurance Manager, Adult Social Care, Surrey

County Council

Email: [email protected]

Address: Reigate and Banstead Locality Team, Reigate

Town Hall, Castlefield Road, Reigate, RH2 0SH

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Presentation from Julian Temblett-Wood

Transforming Care

Quality Standards

Discussion

Members of the group said that there is an issue with

having named staff responsible for individuals.

Jay Palmer said that there is an issue with training as lots

of staff don’t know about Person Centred Active Support,

Gaynor Gibbins asked whether in reality people have

choice and control over their lives. She also felt that this is

geared towards those who are more able to communicate.

Members stressed the importance that if a person is being

taken to visit a GP, they should go with a member of staff

who knows them.

Gaynor asked whether other counties have these

standards. Julian said that he doesn’t know.

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Feedback

Surrey Choices

Michael Perks said that he felt that a lot of

friendships had been lost since the closure of

Bentley. Also he feels that the range of activities

is limited in the hubs.

Michael said that he thought there was going to

be a get together for people attending the hubs.

Shamim Kityo-Matovu said that this is

impossible, as the biggest venue is

Woodmansterne and this would not

accommodate all the customers. However

Surrey Choices do offer customers the

opportunity to participate in off-site activities,

where they do get to mix.

Jay Palmer said that she has noticed that

residents are being dropped off before the end

of their sessions. Other members of the group

said that this was their experience too. Shamim

said that she would look into this.

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Update from the

Learning Disability

Partnership Board

Disabled Person’s Bus Pass in Surrey

The Disabled Person’s Bus Pass in Surrey allows

Surrey residents with eligible disabilities to travel

on buses free of charge. It's valid at all times for

journeys in or from Surrey.

For journeys starting outside of Surrey,

it can be used between and between

9.30am and 11pm.

Changes to benefits have meant some people with

learning disabilities have no longer not been

eligible for a bus pass.

Bus passes are renewed every 5 years and the

problem has happened when people have applied

to renew their bus pass.

The problem has been caused when people have

moved from Disability Living Allowance (DLA) to

Personal Independence Payment (PIP).

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Update from the

Learning Disability

Partnership Board

Why some people have found that they are no

longer eligible for a free bus pass

When people received DLA they could get a free

bus pass if they received:

The middle or higher rate care component.

and/or

The higher rate mobility component.

When people changed to PIP they could get a free

bus pass if they scored:

8 points for the “Moving Around” activity.

or

8 points for the “Communicating Verbally”

activity.

This means that some people with learning

disabilities qualified under the DLA rules, but not

under the PIP rules.

Surrey County Council are trying to solve the

problem and are talking to people and looking at

different ideas.

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Update from the

Learning Disability

Partnership Board

Surrey County Council have now added in an

additional eligibility criteria, so that people who

score 12 points in their PIP assessment for

needing help to “Planning and Following a

Journey” can also now get a free bus pass.

You can see the rules for who is eligible for a bus

pass on the Surrey County Council website:

https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/roads-and-

transport/buses-and-trains/bus-tickets-passes-

and-travel-discounts/documents-that-can-

prove-you-are-disabled-for-a-free-bus-pass

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Any Other Business

All Party Parliamentary Group on Learning

Disabilities

The All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on learning

disability is a group of MPs (Members of Parliament) and

Peers (members of the House of Lords) who meet to talk

about the issues affecting people with a learning disability

and their families. At their most recent meeting they

discussed how to make voting more accessible for people

with a learning disability. Chris Skidmore MP (Minster for

the Constitution), has launched a Call for Evidence asking

for views on how people with disabilities experience

registering to vote and voting itself.

A 2014 Mencap survey found that nearly 1 in 5 people

with a learning disability were turned away from the

polling station. People are asking for less jargon and party

manifesto’s to be in Easy Read.

You can give your views about registering to vote and

voting.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/access-to-

elections-call-for-evidence

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Any Other Business

Department of Transport Consultation

The Department for Transport is seeking feedback

on a draft accessibility action plan, which sets out

their proposals to improve the travel experience for

people with disabilities.

The action plan covers a range of transport modes

including:

• aviation

• rail

• buses

• taxis

The document also considers ways that they can

improve public space to make it more accessible

for people with disabilities.

The document and answer booklet are available in

Easy Read.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/draft-

transport-accessibility-action-plan

This consultation closes on 15 November 2017.

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Any Other Business

The National Flu Vaccination Programme

2017/18

In previous years, the uptake amongst those with a

learning disability has been poor and placed them

at risk from the effects of flu such as bronchitis or

pneumonia or in some rare cases death. In addition

to individuals with a learning disability there are

other clinical risk groups that would benefit from flu

vaccination as follows:

• chronic (long-term) respiratory disease, such as

severe asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary

disease (COPD) or bronchitis

• chronic heart disease, such as heart failure

• chronic kidney disease at stage three, four or

five

• chronic liver disease

• chronic neurological disease, such as

Parkinson’s disease or motor neurone disease

• learning disability (those with a diagnosed

learning disability as opposed to those with a

learning difficulty)

• diabetes

• splenic dysfunction

• a weakened immune system due to disease

(such as HIV/AIDS) or treatment (such as

cancer treatment)

• all pregnant women

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Any Other Business

Clients living in long-stay residential care homes or

other long-stay care facilities where rapid spread of

infection is likely should be offered vaccination. In

addition, those who are in receipt of a carer’s

allowance or are the main carer of a person with a

learning disability, whose welfare may be at risk if

the carer falls ill, should be offered vaccination.

Links to an easy read leaflet about the benefits of

the flu vaccination to support discussions with

clients with learning disabilities and their families

can be found below:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/flu

-leaflet-for-people-with-learning-disability

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/ea

sy-read-childhood-nasal-flu-leaflet

Health and social care workers are also at

increased risk of catching the flu virus and passing

it on to those for whom they are caring. Vaccinating

health and social care staff against flu has been

shown to lower the rates of flu-like illness and death

amongst those who are vulnerable and in long term

health care settings. Please consider the

vulnerability of those in your care and take steps to

protect them as well as yourself by getting your flu

vaccine as soon as possible.

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Any Other Business

NHS England launches practical guides to

help people with disabilities access GP

online services

Aimed at supporting people with sight loss, hearing

loss, autism or learning disabilities, a series of new

guides have been developed to help patients use

GP services online such as book appointments,

repeat their prescriptions and view medical records.

Bespoke guides have also been published to help

people access online services, such as how to sign

up to online services, how to keep accounts secure

and how to request access for a carer.

The free guides can be downloaded via NHS

England’s website:

https://www.england.nhs.uk/publication/gp-

online-services-easy-read-guides/

or can be requested by

emailing: [email protected]

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Date and venue of

our next meeting

South East Surrey Local Valuing People Group

Our next meeting will be on Wednesday 8th November 2017 from

1pm to 3pm.

We are meeting at:

Holy Trinity Church,

Carlton Road, Redhill,

Surrey, RH1 2BX

For more information about our group contact:

Cath White:

Phone: 07864964179.

Email: [email protected]

Sarah Linington:

Phone: 01483 518880 / 0781 6077122.

Email: [email protected]