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The Really Great SAM 8 Speaks

LONG TIME FLYERS CLUB NEWS On the web at http://www.sam8.org

VOLUME 400 ISSUE 9 September 2019

Roster of the old dawgs….

Steve Dona……’The Prez’

Will Tilse…..Vice President

Dave Cassell…..Secretary-Treasurer

Dave Gardner…..Scribe of this rag….

Notice: Next Meeting: September 12th, 2019

Rainbow Café, 112 E. Main St., Auburn, WA, 10:30 am-1 pm..(or thereabouts.) ***********************************************************************************

President’s message …….

Giving Back

The recent WMC contest down in Tangent, Oregon reminded me how important “giving back” is

to our hobby. It’s what makes our hobby wonderful but it takes a lot of work too. Linda Grell

has been working with the Spaghetti Feed after the August WMC contest since she was first

dating Glenn Grell while in high school. Glenn and his brothers have been instrumental in

acquiring and coordinating the flying field, setting up the contest trailer and ROW pond and

basically following their dad’s lead on how to promote free flight throughout the Northwest.

This year the entire Grell family was honored to be inducted into the Free Flight Hall of Fame

and Mr. Bob Stalick was honored to present the award in front of everyone at the banquet..

The turnout was HUGE! Over 90 people and everyone went home happy and a bit too full.

(Should have passed up on that last piece of pie)

What an honor to the Grell family and what an honor to see them receive this award for a

lifetime of service. (Well-earned I might add!)

The Mennano clan showed up in force, with something like 20 people! It was a true pleasure to

watch as they mentored young Nico Mennano with his first ½ a model. Trimming, launching and

chasing (on a motorcycle too!). By the end of the weekend Nico had his Mini Pearl flying to

perfection and he was grinning from ear to ear. All the family and everyone else was

complimenting and encouraging this young man and they were hooting and hollering when he had

a perfect launch too. THIS is the way to bring people into the Free Flight fold. It’s a bit

intimidating for the newbies. Make sure that they get some help and have a successful outing.


On that note my brother Gordon Dona traveled from Bloomington MN to attend the contest.

Instead of spending his time beating his little brother (that’s me) he spent most of a full day

helping Gerry Morrissey with his new ½A Starduster. Setting up his model, starting and running

his motor (yes it was new) and proper launching technique. We all got a giggle when Gerry

finally got the engine screaming and pointed it up to launch and my brother was yelling in his ear

(LOUDLY) START THE TIMER! START THE TIMER!!!. The model went up perfectly and Gerry

turned to Gordon and admitted that no, he was not going to remember to start the timer

without his help. The weekend was a huge success. I wish all of you could have been there to

join in the fun.

Steve Dona, The Prez

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SAM 8 minutes for August 8th, 2019 (attendance =16)

Current SAM 8 T-Shirt remaining count by size: Medium = 9 Large = 2

Will let it slip he came unprepared to call the meeting to order. No whistle but a long raspberry from our VP.. The meeting was called to order at 12:06.

Steve opened with another call for photos from SAM events.

Nick gave a report on flying field status. These would be the fields proposed by Bob Benjamin (FARO Flyers Field) and the Torres field. Nick also found a port-a-potty bargain that costs about $90 for an entire month complete with servicing.

Steve recounted the contest dates at Tangent, hosted by Willamette Model Club. August 16 – 18 and there will be a spaghetti feed as always.

The next contest is the Annual SPOT Meet September 6 – 8 and collecto followed by the Fall Annual Recycled Trophy (F*A*R*T) FF Contest September 27 – 29. (See attached WMC flyer)

Show and Tell

Dan Hopkins brought his Sky Voyager Model B, the same plane shown by Tom Cashman last month. The plane is marketed by J&H Aerospace. (see the July newsletter). Dan also brought in his BMJR Jay Bird ready for covering.

As it nears completion, Nick Stratis brought his Super Solution. He found a source for vacuum formed cowling and canopy for his Super Solution. In this case the price was right - - free.

Auction Items

Spacer 200 w/ baby bee, 1/2A Satellite, Baby Bombshell. Bill Darkow’s Balsa Wood bits (several boxes of misc. bits), Magazines, Wheels, Nick’s 3 blade props and an Atwood .049

Mtg. adjourned: 1:10p

Submitted by Dave Cassell Nico Menanno

WMC

Spaghetti

Feed


Classifieds:

1951 K&B Torpedo .19, (year before GreenHead)

Nostalgia Legal Condition Level ~8

$30

See Dave Gardner, [email protected]

425-793-1937

2018-2019 Old Time, Free Flight, Control Line and Club Modeling Event Schedule

Date Event / Time / Location Activity/Location Contact

Sept 27-29 Fall Annual FF Contest at Parker’s Field Tangent, OR WMC

October 3-4th 2019 Ringmaster Fly-A-Thon Kent, WA NWSR

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For additional Northwest FF and CL activity, see the following websites for more detail.

For SAM 8 activities, look on the SAM 8 Website, http://www.SAM8.org

For SAM National activities, look on the SAM Website, http://www.antiquemodeler.org/

For WMC activities, check on their website, WillametteModelersclub.weebly.com, or contact Bob Stalick at [email protected].

For NW Skyraiders’ activities, check on http://flyinglines.org, or [email protected].

For Museum of Flight, check on their website, www.museumofflight.org. Each first Thursday of the month is free admission.

Really Great SAM 8 meets every second Thursday each month the Rainbow Café in Auburn at 11:30 AM. Come join us for lunch!

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Following are some event notices, including the 2019 Frank Ehling International 1/2A Texaco Postal Challenge for those of you who fly the event. No contest, no sanction…..just some fun flying with recorded performance sent in……get your name on a world-wide list!

Bob Hunt gets an ‘official’ Greg Davis & Quaker Harper photo

Mark Sexton Harper photo

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From David Higgins’ Model Airplane Research Facility…..

Attached to this email is a very clean and accurate high-resolution pdf file of the Phantom Flash R.O.G. plan. Comet Models (originally

named the Comet Model Airplane & Supply Company) first produced the Phantom Flash kit in the late 1930s. The prototype was built

and flown by Joe Konefes in around 1936. He hand drew (no CAD drawings back then!) the original plans using ink on cloth. So,

throw away all your other pdf files of the Phantom Flash plans. Why you ask? Because, they are way too big and distorted beyond

belief. You may have noticed that the other pdf scans of the Phantom Flash don’t show the bold border lines typical of most Comet

Models plans. That’s because they are much larger than the original drawing made by Comet Models.

This high-resolution scan (600 dpi) is of an original Phantom Flash plan from an original Comet Models Phantom Flash kit. The paper

on which the original plan was printed on measures 11” by 17”, which is a standard “B” sized drawing form. The original plan has pin

holes and fold lines as well as a light yellow/brown patina from decades of aging. I ironed out the fold lines and then I made a 100%

Xerox copy of the original plan to eliminate the yellow/brown patina and to repair any tiny areas damaged by some original glue marks

left over from whomever originally built the kit.

I measured the wingspan on the original yellowed plan, and it had just slightly under a 16-inch flat wingspan (15.95” flat span to be

exact). The left-hand wing panel measured 7.95 inches and the right-hand wing panel measured exactly 8 inches. My cleaned-up


Xerox copy, which this high-resolution scan was made from, measures 7.97” for the L/H wing panel and 8.03” for the R/H wing panel

for a total of exactly 16” for the flat wingspan. Talk about serendipity, I couldn’t ask for a better result!

I know what you’re thinking; in the title block, the plan states that the wingspan is 16”, which would normally be the projected span of

the wing. Therefore, given the dihedral angle, the flat span would need to be 16.25” for the projected wingspan to be exactly 16

inches. I don’t believe this is the case. Not having computers nor pocket calculators back in the 1930s, the drafter would have had to

either draw a preliminary sketch to determine the projected wingspan or he could have used CRC trigonometry tables to calculate the

projected wingspan. I don’t think he would have gone to that much trouble or have spent time doing this. Since I have an original plan

that shows the flat wingspan at 15.95” (not the stated 16” span, presumably due to a drafting error or a printing error), I believe that the

16” wingspan as stated in the title block is the flat wingspan before establishing dihedral.

Here is more evidence that the wingspan noted in the title block of early Comet Models plans is not the projected wingspan: I have an

original plan for the Comet Sparky from an original Comet Models kit. In the title block, the wingspan for the Sparky is stated as being

32 inches. Measuring the actual kit plan, not a copy of the kit plan, the flat wingspan measures exactly 32 inches. Therefore, the

wingspan stated in the title block on early Comet Models kits is the flat wingspan, not the projected wingspan. I rest my case!

BTW, there are some fine laser cut kits of the Phantom Flash R.O.G. available. Volare Products sells a laser cut short kit for $11.00, or

$9.90 per kit if you order 10 of them. You will need to supply your own 1/16” square balsa sticks, a propeller, nose bearing, tissue

paper and wire/pins. Retro RC sells a very nice complete laser cut Phantom Flash kit for $16.98. This kit features interlocking parts to

speed up construction. The kit includes all laser cut parts, a plastic propeller and nose bearing, Japanese Esaki tissue paper with

preprinted skull and cross bones logo, and a rubber motor. All you’ll need to build this model kit is a building board, a modeling knife,

and some glue, pins and wax paper.

Regards,

David Higgins

This is the referenced plan, but not to scale. It needs to be printed from the attached .pdf file, on 11x17 paper

for the full sized plan.

PhantomFlashROG (2).pdf


More from David Higgins, on Hemp Tissue: I ordered the Hemp Tissue Paper from Hiromi Paper, Inc. in California: https://store.hiromipaper.com/products/hp-14-asagami?variant=53155988491 The product is called HP-14 Asagami and sells for $120 per 100 sheets and it is shipped in a cardboard tube, so there are no creases in the tissue. Shipping was pretty expensive at around $20+, but it is packaged very well. Each sheet is 31” by 43” (or around a square yard). I charged $1.50 per sheet and still made a little profit per sheet. I had no problem selling the stuff and I saved 10 sheets for myself. I still get requests from club members about ordering more of the tissue, so I may end up getting some more. I rolled 5 or 10 sheets ($7.50 or $15.00, depending on what quantity the club member wanted) onto old cardboard tubes (leftover from gift wrap tubes) or I used old rolled model airplane plans. I calculated a weight of 1.275 grams per square foot for this tissue, which is 0.114 grams per square foot more than the 1.161 grams per square foot for Esaki lite flight tissue. This Hemp tissue is machine made, so you don’t see any blotchy patches of excess fibers like you see in the Esaki tissue. As I mentioned last night on the phone, this stuff is much stronger than Esaki tissue and any grade of Silkspan. Like all tissues, this stuff shrinks with water and can be applied using your favorite method, such as glue stick, nitrate dope, thinned white glue, thinned Duco cement or thinned Velcro glue, etc. I usually brush on two thinned coats of nitrate followed by a couple of light coats of colored Krylon for trim, such as a red or blue leading edge on the wing. I used this hemp tissue on my Super Sniffer model, which has around a 44” wingspan and it worked beautifully. It would work fine for E-36 and lightly loaded models of up to 4-foot wingspans. I applied the hemp tissue dry and used a light mist of water to shrink it. I tend to cover fairly tight, so it shrank with no wrinkles. Everyone in the SAM 8 club who have used it likes the stuff. I think Chuck Bower had some problems with the Hemp tissue, but I can’t remember exactly what it was, but everyone else has had good luck with it. I am willing to buy back Chuck’s supply of Hemp tissue if he no longer wants it. I guess we can put out an APB to see if there is enough demand for ordering another 100 plus sheets of the stuff. BTW, I heard from someone, I believe it was Neil Knutson, that the factory in Japan has quit producing Esaki tissue paper. I wonder if anyone can verify this potentially awful news. I always thought that Esaki tissue was being used in some other industry, such as floral arrangements, and that the model airplane industry just happened to come across the stuff some 90 years ago. Too bad Frank Zaic isn’t around, he would know the answer. Regards, David Higgins

….and……even more from David: This list was sent to all SAM 8 members just a couple of days ago….

I will bring the following items (all are from Keith Varnau’s collection, except for items 13 and 14) for auction at this Thursday’s SAM 8 meeting:

1. Ramrod 250 Kit by Sig Manufacturing: this is an original kit in its original box and it is a complete kit with die cut parts. Included with this kit is another original Ramrod 250 kit box containing all tooling necessary to make the sliced rib version of this classic 0.049 Holland Hornet powered free flight model. This second box also has many parts already cut out and 2 sets of plans, the original kit plan and a CAD plan showing the sliced rib version of this model.

2. Gary Buddenbohm’s outdoor hand launched glider kit from 1986: this kit has an original Buddenbohm silly putty D.T. with instruction sheet. All wood is included in the kit, but the plans are missing. Perhaps Stan Buddenbohm has the plan for this kit. This is a chuck glider, but it might be possible to turn it into a tip launched glider or a large catapult glider.

3. Light Flight 18” span chuck glider kit: this kit has all the wood including a tapered wing blank, but no plans. Again, this kit could be turned into a TLG or catapult glider.

4. Graupner Slipper 21.65” span hand launched glider: This kit is complete with instructions in German only (schade!) and features a pre-carved wing blank.

5. R/N models ¾ scale 1938 Korda Wakefield Classic, kit no. RF-308: Kit is complete.

6. R/N Models Earl Stahl’s L-2 Grasshopper Taylorcraft 32.5” span: Kit is complete.

7. R/N Models Stratomaster Old Timer Class ‘C’ Rubber Power: Kit is complete.

8. Ray Harlan’s Indoor Mechanical Scale 0.001 gram resolution in original box.

9. Wood Burning and Soldering tool with several tips including #11 blade in plastic case.

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10. Holland Hornet 0.049 engine on clear plastic display stand with extended needle. This engine looks like it was never run. It has good compression. A reserve bid applies to this engine.

11. Cox 0.020 Pee Wee with bright red anodized aluminum tank and a white propeller. Looks like it’s in brand-new condition and has good compression.

12. OK Cub 0.049 engine. It was run and it has good compression.

13. Neil Knutson’s model airplane kit: Classic Model’s 1929 Church Midwing 37.5” span rubber powered scale kit in original box. This kit dates back to the early 1970s and is complete. It would make a nice large rubber scale or small electric R/C scale model. This item has a reserve bid.

14. Neil Knutson’s Testor’s McCoy CL or FF glow plug engines: one engine is a 0.29 and the other is a 0.35 both engines are in their original boxes, appear to have been run and both appear to have good compression. These engines date back to the early 1970s and have nice castings. No minimum bid on these engines.

Regards, David Higgins

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EARL ROBERT (BOB) MONK R.I.P. Earl Robert Monk was born on December 19, 1934 in Wilkes

Barre, PA and passed away on August 5, 2019 in Renton, WA.

He had suffered many years from Alzheimer’s and

Parkinson’s. Bob was 20 year career Air Force, retiring in

1973. He was a long-time resident in Renton. He retired from

Boeing in 1995. He loved the outdoors, fishing, traveling,

building and flying model airplanes.

On September 1, 1962, he married Mary Jane Ross in

Ephrata, Wa. They have three children: Susan, Sandra and

Brian; daughter-in-law, Stephanie and granddaughter, Sara.

Burial was in the Mt. Tahoma National Cemetery. Charitable

contributions may be made to Alzheimers.

(photo courtesy of Bob Harper….)

The Complaint Desk has closed. The Editor has left the building. Don't forget to buy your souvenirs at the concession booth. ….and see you at the Rainbow…….


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