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Ramanuja (1017-1137 AD) Commentary on the Vedanta Sutras (Shri-Bhashya)

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Page 1: Ramanuja (1017-1137 AD) Commentary on the Vedanta Sutras (Shri-Bhashya)

Ramanuja(1017-1137 AD)

Commentary on the Vedanta Sutras

(Shri-Bhashya)

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General outline of the text

A critique of Shankara’s metaphysical monism (non-dualism) (177-181)

A critique of Shankara’s metaphysical idealism (182-186)

A critique of Shankara’s theory of the Self (186-190)

A critique of Shankara’s theory of ignorance (190-196)

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The Classical PhilosophicalSystems of India

The orthodox schools

Samkhya & Yoga

Nyaya & Vaisheshika

Mimamsa & Vedanta

The unorthodox schools

Buddhism

Jainism

Carvaka

(See Text, 150, fn 1)

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Shankara vs. Ramanuja

Non-Dualism (Advaita)

Brahman alone is real.

Brahman & Atman are identical (one & the same).

The phenomenal world is an appearance of Brahman caused by ignorance (avidya) & illusion (maya).

Qualified Non-Dualism (Vishishadvaita)

Brahman alone is ultimately & independently real, but

in Brahman there are many individual material beings & many individual conscious selves.

Material things & conscious selves are real, but not independently or ultimately so. They exist only in & in relation to Brahman.

See fn 2 on p. 177 & fn 3 on p. 177-8

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Detailed outline of the text

A critique of S’s metaphysical monism - Brahman, Pure Being, alone is real; distinctions & differences are unreal (177-181).

– Metaphysical monism is unprovable (177).– Knowing requires objects that are distinct & different from each

other (177).– Acts of consciousness reveal metaphysical distinctions (178).

– Speech implies metaphysical distinctions (178-9).

– Perception reveals metaphysical distinctions (179-180).

– The process of inference implies metaphysical distinctions (180).

– There is no perception of Pure Being (180).

– Impermanent things are not necessarily unreal (contrary to S’s view that only that which is permanent is real) (181).

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Detailed outline, cont’d

A critique of S’s metaphysical idealism (182-6)

– Being & consciousness are not one & the same (182).

– Consciousness can be an object of consciousness (182-3).

– Consciousness is not eternal (although the Self is) (183-5).

– There is no consciousness without an object (185-6).

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Detailed outline, cont’d

Consciousness is an attribute of a permanent Self; Self & consciousness are not one & the same (186-188).

The basic differences between Ramanuja & Shankara on the nature of the Self (Editor’s

Comment, 188-9).

The individual conscious subject (the “I-Self”) persists in the state of release & is the true Atman-Self (189-190).

A critique of S’s theory of the Self (186-190 )

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A critique of S’s theory of ignorance (190-196)

S’s theory of beginningless ignorance (avidya), which can neither “be” nor “not be” (190-191)

Ramanuja’s critique:– What is the ground of beginningless ignorance?

(191-2)

– How can beginningless ignorance neither be nor not-be? (192-4)

– How can Brahman be affected by ignorance? (194-6)

Detailed outline, cont’d

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Even more detailed analysis of the text

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Ramanuja’s critique of Shankara’s metaphysical monism

Shankara’s monism: Brahman, Pure Being, alone is real; distinctions & differences are unreal (177). Individual entities are impermanent (& therefore unreal) appearances of Pure Being. Pure Being alone is “really real.” The differences & distinctions between individual entities are unreal (like the entities themselves) (178).

Preliminary criticisms:– Metaphysical monism cannot be proved true [but it can be

proved false] (177).– Knowing requires objects that are distinct & different from each

other (177). Why?Extra-Credit Essay

(Follow instructions in Course Syllabus)

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Ramanuja’s critique of Shankara’s metaphysical monism

Acts of consciousness reveal metaphysical distinctions (178):1 “I see this.” “I” distinct & different from “this” & vice

versa.2 Consciousness itself has various (& different)

attributes (permanence, oneness, etc.).3 Philosophical disputation presupposes differences

between opposing philosophical views.

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Ramanuja’s critique of Shankara’s metaphysical monism

Speech implies metaphysical distinctions (178-9):1 A word is a combination of root & suffix - two

different linguistic elements.2 The plurality of words is based on a plurality of

meanings (each different from the others).3 A sentence is a series of words expressing a

number of different meanings.

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Ramanuja’s critique of Shankara’s metaphysical monism

This is true of both “determinate” and “non-determinate” perception (i.e., perception that recognizes class membership & generic differences & perception that does not include such recognition).

They both include recognition of differences & distinctions.

Even in “non-determinate” perception, there is recognition of the difference between substance and attribute in the structure of the object perceived (for the 1st time).

Perception reveals metaphysical distinctions (179-180)

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Ramanuja’s critique of Shankara’s metaphysical monism

The process of inference implies

metaphysical distinctions (180)

Perception reveals a world marked by difference.

2 Inference is a process of reasoning based upon perception.

3 Inference must also reveal a world marked by difference.

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Ramanuja’s critique of Shankara’s metaphysical monism

Shankara claims that the true object of perception is Being-Itself (Pure Being) (see 180).

Ramanuja claims that there is no perception of Pure Being (180): All objects of perception are things distinguished from other things

in various ways.

2 There is a difference between substance & attribute in all objects of perception.

3 If the only true object of perception is Pure Being, then all judgments referring to different objects are meaningless & false.

4 If perceived differences & distinctions are unreal, then a man searching for horse should be satisfied with finding a buffalo.

5 None of the senses (sight, touch, hearing, etc.) have Pure Being for their object.

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Ramanuja’s critique of Shankara’s metaphysical monism

Another argument for monism by Shankara:

Brahman is permanent. Individual entities are

impermanent. The permanent is real, &

the impermanent is unreal.

Brahman alone is real.

R’s response: Impermanent things are not necessarily unreal - sublation & persistence (see Text, 181).

(Text, 181)

(Is R’s response here a relevant

reply to S’s argument? Why or

why not?) Extra-Credit Essay

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Even more detail, cont’d

A critique of S’s metaphysical idealism (182-6)

– Being & consciousness are not one & the same (182).

– Consciousness can be an object of consciousness (182-3).

– Consciousness is not eternal (although the Self is) (183-5).

– There is no consciousness without an object (185-6).

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Shankara’s argument for metaphysical idealism

(according to Ramanuja)

All differences & distinctions are unreal (metaphysical monism).

Being & consciousness are both (obviously) real.

There are no differences or distinctions between Being and consciousness. They must be one and the same (metaphysical idealism).

(Text, 182)

Again, R appeals to perception to counter the 1st premise of this

argument: Perception (he claims) shows that there is a real distinction

& relationship between consciousness & its objects (185-6).

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Consciousness can be an object of consciousness (182-3)

Shankara claims that consciousness cannot be an object of consciousness (182). (Why is this important to him? Is it a part of metaphysical idealism?)

Ramanuja claims that there are at least two situations in which consciousness is an object of consciousness:– Consciousness of the

consciousness of others– Consciousness of one’s

own past states of consciousness

Ramanuja’s critique of Shankara’s metaphysical idealism

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Ramanuja’s critique of Shankara’s metaphysical idealism

(continued)

Shankara argues that consciousness is eternal on the

ground that the “antecedent non-existence of consciousness” cannot

be proved.

(See Text, 183)

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reacts to Shankara’s argument by

trying to show that

the “antecedent non-existence of consciousness” can be known

(by consciousness itself).

(See Text, 184-5)

Ramanuja’s critique of Shankara’s metaphysical idealism (continued)

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Ramanuja also argues that

there is no consciousness without an object (no pure, undifferentiated

consciousness).

(See Text, 185-6)

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Even more detail, cont’d

Consciousness is an attribute of a permanent Self; Self & consciousness are not one & the same (186-8).

The basic differences between Ramanuja & Shankara on the nature of the Self (Editor’s Comment, 188-9).

The individual conscious subject (the “I-Self”) persists in the state of release & is the true Atman-Self (189-190).

A critique of S’s theory of the Self (186-190 )

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A critique of S’s theory of ignorance (190-196)

S’s theory of beginningless ignorance (avidya), which can neither “be” nor “not be” (190-191)

Ramanuja’s critique:– What is the ground of beginningless ignorance?

(191-2)

– How can beginningless ignorance neither be nor not-be? (192-4)

– How can Brahman be affected by ignorance? (194-6)

Even more detail, cont’d